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October 24, 2012 December 22, 2014 David
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Could Nike Deal With Man United Be Worth £1B?
Interesting piece in today's Daily Mail about Manchester United's kit deal with Nike, which is coming up for renewal in 2015.
Back in 2002, United signed a 13-year deal with Nike worth £303 million, plus a profit share on retail sales. Even without any profits, that translates to around £23 million a season.
The deal has been mutually beneficial to both parties with Man United fans buying 1.4 million shirts a year, tied with Real Madrid for most popular shirts worldwide.
United and Nike are set to begin renewal talks in February, and United chief of staff Ed Woodward, who presides over the club's commercial operation, is looking for a 'major increase' from Nike. Read more... (464 words, 1 image, estimated 1:51 mins reading time)
October 22, 2012 October 23, 2012 David
Bundesliga, Europe, La Liga, Ligue 1, Premier League, Serie A
European Weekend Review: Messi Stars While Chelsea And Bayern Impress
Lionel Messi made headlines once again as he scored a club record 15th Liga hat-trick for Barcelona in a thrilling 5-4 win against Deportivo La Coruña. Meanwhile, Chelsea shone in England, Paris Saint-Germain went top in France and Bayern Munich set a Bundesliga record.
Lionel Messi is almost a one-man team as his 21st hat-trick for the club gave Barca a sensational 5-4 win at Deportivo La Coruña on Saturday night. The win, and three points, keeps Barcelona level on points at the top of La Liga with Atlético Madrid, whose last-minute free-kick from Falcao allowed them to beat Real Sociedad 1-0. Elsewhere, Real Madrid continue to climb the standings, as goals from Gonzalo Higuaín and Cristiano Ronaldo gave them a comfortbale 2-0 win against Celta Vigo. Read more... (452 words, 1 image, estimated 1:48 mins reading time)
September 3, 2012 David
Barcelona, Bundesliga, Europe, La Liga, Ligue 1, Real Madrid, Serie A
First Wins Of The Season For Real Madrid And PSG
Two of Europe's big names, Real Madrid and Paris Saint-Germain picked up their first league wins of the season, while Manchester United needed two goals in the last four minutes to win at Sunderland. Elsewhere Bayern Munich flexed their muscles in Germany, thrashing Stuttgart 6-1.
Here is a recap of the action across Europe this weekend. Read more... (467 words, 1 image, estimated 1:52 mins reading time)
August 15, 2012 David
Bundesliga, La Liga
Bayern Munich Sign Javi Martinez For €40 million
According to the German newspaper Bild, Bayern Munich have signed Javi Martinez from Spanish club Athletic Bilbao. The transfer was triggered after Bayern activated a €40m buy-out clause in Martinez's contract. The size of the deal is a record for a German club.
The 23-year-old Martinez signed for Bilbao from fellow La Liga side CA Osasuna for €6 million in the summer of 2006. He quickly established himself in the side and played 35 matches for his club in his debut season, scoring three times. Read more... (265 words, 1 image, estimated 1:04 mins reading time)
July 18, 2012 July 17, 2012 David
Bundesliga, Europe, La Liga, News, Premier League
UEFA's Best Player in Europe nominees
Mario Balotelli, Gigi Buffon and Andrea Pirlo are in the running to win UEFA's Best Player in Europe award.
A 32-man long-list has been drawn up by selected journalists across each UEFA member country and Italy's three Euro 2012 stars were included.
Buffon and Pirlo were two of Serie A's three representatives after their fine form for Juventus over the last 12 months. Milan's Zlatan Ibrahimovic is also in there.
The winner of the prize – designed to revive the spirit of the former European Footballer of the Year gong – will be named in Monaco on August 30. Read more... (204 words, 1 image, estimated 49 secs reading time)
Barcelona, Bundesliga, Europe, La Liga, Ligue 1, News, Premier League, Real Madrid
Top Ten Best Paid Footballers In The World
With today's confirmation that Zlatan Ibrahimovic has moved from AC Milan to Paris St-Germain here is a list of the top ten highest paid footballers in the world. Note that these numbers reflect club wages, and doesn't include any taxes that some teams pay on behalf of their players: Read more... (190 words, 1 image, estimated 46 secs reading time)
Samuel Eto'o (Anzhi) €20m
Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) €13m
Didier Drogba (Shangai Shenua) €13m
Zltan Ibrahimovic (PSG) €13m
Lionel Messi (Barcelona) €12m
Waybe Rooney (Manchester United) €11.5m
Yaya Tourè (Manchester City) €10.8m
Dario Conca (Guanghzou Evergrande) €10.5m
Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern Munich) €9.7m
Kakà (Real Madrid) €9m
June 26, 2012 David
Borussia Dortmund Opens 2012-13 Season Against Werder Bremen
The fixture list for the 2012/13 Bundesliga season was published today and two-time defending Bundesliga champions Borussia Dortmund will start the 2012-13 season against Werder Bremen
Dortmund and Bremen, two original members of the league, will begin the 50th Bundesliga slate at Signal Iduna Park in Dortmund on Aug. 24, exactly 49 years to the day the teams first met in league play.
Champions League finalist and Bundesliga runner-up Bayern Munich will visit Bundesliga 2 champions Greuther Furth, who will be playing in Germany's top division for the first time in 20 years. Read more... (166 words, 1 image, estimated 40 secs reading time)


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U of T has launched an IBM powered virtual assistant that will help its students access mental health resources more efficiently
Fatima Azam, The Mike Staff Writer
"Navi," short for navigator, is the new virtual assistant that will help students find mental health support resources. It is available for all University of Toronto (U of T) students and was developed by U of T's Presidential & Provostial Task Force on Student Mental Health. Navi represents an important part of the task force's plan to improve students' mental health and wellbeing. Sandy Welsh, U of T's vice-provost, states that it will be "a simpler way to access mental health information and services," something students have been asking for since 2019.
Navi was developed using IBM Watson, a system that picks up and responds to natural language. To use the assistant, students will first have to input which campus they are a part of; after doing so, students can either ask any questions or talk about their mental health situation. Navi is not monitored and is completely anonymous. However, for every response Navi gives, the user can give a thumbs up or down with feedback on how the system can be improved.
Navi picks up on keywords used in queries and provides support by providing programs, online resources, and centres that can help. These centres are not restricted to Canada, so international students can find help through Navi as well. International students outside of North America can call the U of T My Student Support Program (U of T My SSP) at 001-416-380-6578 or use the My SSP app which is offered in 35 languages. Some keywords that Navi can pick up on are "stress, anxiety, loneliness, harassment, discrimination, bullying, academics, career, sleep issues, [and] accessibility," etc. Navi will be continuously updated as feedback comes in, so it will be able to pick up on more and more keywords, leading to better resources being provided to students.
U of T's student community has been spread around the globe as a result of COVID-19, and online learning has placed certain social barriers in the classes. For students who are struggling during this time, Navi has the potential to help.
Even though Navi will provide a way for students to find resources to support them, some question how helpful this virtual assistant may be. In 2019, the U of T Mental Health Policy Council (MHPC) wrote to The Varsity, criticizing the task force for not adequately representing student interests. The MHPC accused the task force of mis-evaluating students applying for the four student representative positions available by putting their professional and academic experience above lived experiences. Arjun Kaul, University of Toronto Students' Union Vice-President, Operations, also wrote to The Varsity after meeting with the task force. Kaul wrote that the University of Toronto Student Union had brought up concerns regarding its non-student-led model, however no changes were made to the task force's structure.
Navi has been tested by both students and staff and the online support system has been available since late September for students.
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Does anyone else think this wiki should add 32-bit support to the charts, for those who don't have a 64-bit OS yet? I think it would be a good addition to this wiki.
This is really odd place to add such discussion. You may want to go to forums side to ask this kind of stuff as nobody will find this thread here. I simply happened to gaze recent changes.
32-bit OS, especially on gaming hardware, has been moving away for some time now. However it's already kinda implemeted in form of API table. Here's list of games without 64-bit executable and here's list of games with false, hackable or true state.
What I meant with "kinda" part, is that games with 64-bit executable may or may not have 32-bit executable. However in my opinion, benefit of listing games with 32-bit executable isn't that useful and those still using 32-bit OS should always check system requirements of the game before purcharing. Don't know wikis official thing for this.
Alright, thanks for the tip. I just thought it might be good to have on the chart, right next to "64-bit executable." There's also only a small percentage of users with 3D Vision or Ultra-WS screens, and part of what this site does best is articles that apply to almost every user.
Thing with 3D and ultra widescreen is that they are current standards and growing with userbase. 32-bit OS is thing that should've faded away long time ago especially on gaming hardware. With OS X and Linux this have basically already happened. After all, CPUs have supported 64-bit architecture for 10 years now, high end stuff even longer and from Vista onwards it's possible to use same product key to install 64-bit version of the OS and microsoft provides installation media from their site directly.
So at that point, personally, I would argue that it's not that useful to include information to either super old hardware or for those who are too lazy to either check system requirements or reinstall their OS with 64-bit version. But like I said earlier, this is my personal opinion on the matter, if you would like to actually suggest about this, please open thread to forums so others can input to it as well.
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The insecurity in the West Region town of Penka Michele has once more hit hard with an elderly woman of 68 years old now confirmed dead after being butchered by thugs. According to media reports, the five young men last Thursday showed up at the home of 68-year-old Julienne Massi and her husband, 88-year-old Jean […]
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The insecurity in the West Region town of Penka Michele has once more hit hard with an elderly woman of 68 years old now confirmed dead after being butchered by thugs.
According to media reports, the five young men last Thursday showed up at the home of 68-year-old Julienne Massi and her husband, 88-year-old Jean Tsana requesting to buy cigarettes.
The couple indicated to the young men that the cigarettes had all been sold, and that it would only be available when they will go and buy from the main market.
The five men who were armed with machetes, reports say, brought them out and started butchered the old man.
His wife who tried to intervene too was seized and butchered by the men, leaving them there to die.
The couple were rushed to the Bafoussam Regional Hospital where 68-year-old Julienne Massi died. Her husband meanwhile, came out of comma yesterday Monday, and is responding to treatment.
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Sacred Heart has served the parish community of Villawood for over 60 years, developing a relationship and strengthening the faith life of members of
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SACRED HEART ( 1957 ) – VILLAWOOD
In 1962, Fr John McSweeney was appointed parish priest to Villawood, the only suburb in its region devoid of a Catholic school. In 1965, a school was built and two sisters allocated from St Joseph in Fairfield taught classes from Kindergarten to Year 2. They continued their work at Sacred Heart until 1990, when the first lay principal was appointed.
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00:00:00] Jack: What up back fam, welcome back to another episode of snapback sports pod. On this episode, the NBA is back, but also everyone is COVID, but also everyone doesn't want to play in Orlando, but I still think the NBA is going to happen. We already know Abe doesn't. We will discuss MLB is officially back. What are the new rules?
Who's going to win it all. We will break all of that down. This week's what the hell internet graphic goes out to our friend, Jay Williams. He posted a fun one talking about the Knicks coaching higher potential, and then ranked the top three school yard games. And we tap it off with a what the PO. Thanks to our producer, Andrew Eagleson from Canada, snapback fam.
Another episode, Raven Lamar Jackson
[00:01:00] Abe: to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Jack: Brian put the jumper.
What a fam I'm your host, Jack settling from snapback sports joining me today. And there's always my cost and long time. Best friend Abe. Abe. What is on your mind to debt?
Abe: I'll tell you what's on my mind, Jack. I just saw a Snapchat from your girlfriend. Looks like you guys had a very nice little date
Jack: night.
We did. Can you confirm?
Abe: Okay, good. And I saw the food and it looked like you had some fire appetizers and it got me thinking. How much better are appetizers than entrees. Like, I don't understand when you go out with a group of people, why isn't it just a consensus that you just all get the appetizers?
Jack: Like if I'm not splitting apps with you, we're not actually good friends. That's how I would grade a meal. But
Abe: at the same time, like, I feel like the only reason people order entrees is because like, [00:02:00] it's what you do. It's like, it's the norm. But in reality, but why don't you change the stigma?
Jack: The question
Abe: boycott entrees,
Jack: but you want one appetizer, one entree, that's a full meal for you, right?
What do you do? Do you hit three API's to fill you up is two API's enough, but
Abe: that's a case by case basis where you have to know the restaurant you're going to in the, in the portion size, like, you know, kind of what you're getting in an entree around. Whenever you go appetizers, very restaurants, restaurant.
But just as a whole, as a food group, appetizers are just way better. We can have a conversation. We can rank the top three appetizers and the honorable mentions we'll go on for miles. You can rank the top three entrees and we'll be done in five minutes.
Jack: Yeah. Chilies knows that like they've recognized greatness with their offering, which is
Abe: like, you just pulled a Chili's out of all restaurants.
Jack: I Southwestern Agros probably the best food on this
Abe: planet. I mean, I'll take Applebee's over chilies.
Jack: No, you're [00:03:00] crazy. You don't actually mean that you don't mean that you don't mean that you're getting caught up in the hype of the name.
Abe: I mean, it's, I mean, it's half off apps after nine o'clock every night.
Jack: Yeah. But you have the triple dipper at Chili's, which is Southwestern night rules, bacon cheeseburger, sliders, and w and Buffalo bites that let's think about that combination.
Abe: Phillies is like the Chili's is the other Yannis brothers.
Jack: You're absolutely. This is, I don't know if I can continue this podcast, but I guess we're legally obligated.
No, we're not. We're free agents. We do whatever we want, but we're going to talk some sports. So the NBA finally, today we're talking on the night of June 24th. Everyone is supposed to announce if they're going to be opting in, to play in Orlando,
Abe: found out it's a soft opt in
Jack: offer.
Abe: Exactly what was said. I was like, what, what does that mean?
Like, it can hand in my homework
Jack: next week. Yeah. Uh, it's like the early deadline. Well, we've heard some names and the big name, the big [00:04:00] pullout was Darvis Burton's, uh, shooting 42% from three on the season. And that was a joke because the real big one was Avery Bradley.
Abe: Well, well, let's give a little respect to Burton's like,
Jack: nah,
Abe: you're talking, you're talking because he's on the Lakers versus.
Tavis Burton's is a better player than Avery Bradley is exactly.
Jack: That was, that was kind of the joke. I thought I was going to get a laugh out of you, but I know we got people at the fam who, who are listening to this cackling to themselves, but Avery Bradley's out. Uh, and then along with that, we've now heard multiple people test positive, healed Brogdon.
Uh, am I forgetting anyone?
Abe: mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of teams like. Jabari Parker. Who's still in the
Jack: NBA. How was he on the Kings? I thought it was in the Hawks. I don't
Abe: know. But, um, like there's the two sons players, because like you don't actually, like, I think these guys have to give permission for their names.
Announcer. It's like a health public policy violation. I don't, I don't [00:05:00] really know, but like you have two sons fliers, like you'll start having different players, but I saw a tweet from Kendrick Perkins
Jack: and
for,
Abe: he had a good point.
Jack: Wow,
Abe: what's going on right now. Isn't unexpected that all these people are popping up with coronavirus, like, Oh, they're finally coming back together and doing
Jack: test referencing. I
Abe: don't know one of the one that I read.
Jack: Cause they're so you know the whole thing about clutch Perkins.
Have you seen it all? No. So Kendrick Perkins three years ago, tweets, M J is the goat. He's the best of all times,
Abe: Kendrick Perkins is just making a name for himself.
Jack: Right? So now there's a joke going on Twitter, that it's clutch Perkins because he is completely flip flopped. He's constantly all over LeBron.
And even last night, he tweets out. He says, I totally respect Avery Bradley's decision to sit out. Like everyone should get ready to lay some up. Who's going to be there. [00:06:00] Deletes the tweet, sends a different tweet later that night. I
Abe: completely baby. No, you didn't.
Jack: Ron Brown and math Carter hit him with that clutch tech saying, Kendrick, what are you talking about?
Abe: But anyway, Kendrick Perkins said like, everyone's like, yeah, Oh, my God, he's getting criminal. My God, he's getting chronic, but realistically, the NBA is coming back. They knew this was
Jack: going to happen was the plan. So they're having the panic, but I'm surprised to hear you like talking sensibly.
Abe: No, I mean, Kendrick Perkins said this is expected by the MBA.
That doesn't mean that. I mean, they're taking all these guys that are traveling from the country and they're putting them into the hotspot of the virus right now. How is that going to be like, you're seeing all these names pop up and this disease is ravishing people like, come on guys, they're going to have three months of nobody's going to get it.
No big names. Like this is absurd.
Jack: Well, the plan was to give people this deadline so that they would have two weeks before training camp opens up and everyone would be able to heal an outside. Part of it is like, I don't think people realize that. I know they're probably not going to die because they [00:07:00] are in shape and under the age
Abe: effect to everyone theory you, I know you killed it real quick last time.
So it can kind of good right now.
Jack: I don't know how I feel about it, but it, you know, it damages the lungs and could really damage stuff going forward. But every
Abe: Bradley's dark and sad all over again.
Jack: Avery rally's decision had to do with his kid. He didn't want to go cause he couldn't see his family, his son, I believe as a heart condition, something
Abe: along those
Jack: respiratory.
So. I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I, there were a bunch of Lakers fans who were pissed and there was Evan Forney, I believe who tweeted, not about Avery Bradley, but about someone
Abe: else about Burton's totally healthy and only holding out, which this is an interesting topic because Burton's, isn't on a contending team.
He's on the ninth seed. He had a great year, one of the best shooters in the NBA. And he's up for a contract this year. Like, you kind of understand that, but like,
Jack: well, what side are you on? Who do you more relate to? I don't want to relate
Abe: to either of them.
[00:08:00] Jack: no, but it's the team aspect. Like your boys are healthy. They're going to play, put their jobs at risk and their lives at risk. And you're kind of sitting back just for the money. The counter, I think is not only I need to get my contract and I can't get sick. It's that? I need to take care of my family and this one contract.
I really,
Abe: I really, I take Davos Burton side. I like, like, I know people are saying asterix, like, I don't think this NBA championship will mean as much to the people playing. They're like, they're going into this thinking. We've had a whole MBA off season in between this league. It's essentially my friend called it the Disney invitation.
It's an AAU tournament. It's a basketball tournament out of nowhere. And the only reason it's happening, it's not to crowded official champion of last season. It's to mitigate the loss that would happen. If there wasn't a season with the whole CBA, with all the money off, they're just trying to salvage anything they can
Jack: in hindsight.
No, I think I disagree with you there. Look, the premier [00:09:00] league restarted and Liverpool needs to win one more game and they're going to win it. And it's really not going to feel like
Abe: how about, how about our spurs
Jack: to now in this first set of
Abe: 900?
Jack: Are you dying? He cane is back. I was live bet tweet and all over the place.
When Liverpool wins by the weekend or whenever they finally win. Yes, they won the title and it's an Accenture season, but they were going to win the title regardless, but it still won't feel like it. But would this restart with the MBA? It does feel like they're all going to be on a level playing field and there's going to be a knife, but that's
Abe: not, that's not the NBA playoffs.
Jack: just feel like it's gonna, I'm telling you the first eight regular season games will feel weird. They'll feel like tuneups. The first round might be ugly, not great basketball, but I think by the second round and by the conference finals, and especially by the NBA finals, this is going
Abe: to, no, I think it will.
I think it'll heat up if it happens. It won't, um, But I'm saying for a guy like Tavis Burton, who his team isn't contending. I'm not, I'm not the reason. I'm not, I'm not teaming up with Dobbs protons. I'm saying Evan Forney. I could kick [00:10:00] rocks.
Jack: I definitely don't value Evan Forney, his
Abe: bike. Like, yeah. I, you have a point, but who cares?
Like this is such an anomaly. Like this is a crazy unforeseen situation.
Jack: This isn't, this isn't the bowl game, right? Like, do you remember them? That was a huge dilemma. Stars should play in the bowl game or
Abe: not bowl games is the stupidest thing of all time.
Jack: Well, then those are usually cash cows, but you can make that complete comparison here.
A nine seed, the
Abe: wizard because of the guy, the Chick-fil-A bowl, doesn't have a chance at a national champion.
Jack: Neither do the wizards
Abe: though. Hypothetically, I think the
Jack: Chick-fil-A bowl has a better chance at the championship than the wizards do and their math
Abe: given an opportunity. Put it that way.
Jack: Yeah.
Abe: I mean, you roll out a line up of John Wall, Brad Beal, Dobbs. Burton's really? And I can't
Jack: promise Brian
Abe: Thomas Robinson. He's good. Eats glass glass.
Jack: Alright, so the, the. [00:11:00] Lakers have essentially signed Jared Smith, according to everyone I follow on every social media platform, which I think is the funniest thing, like of course, woes or woes, as you like to say, but it's whoosh.
I say, Whoa,
Abe: what was NeuroSky?
Jack: Yeah, I'm right. That was neuralgia is not his name.
Abe: Yes it
Jack: is. It's like, Whoa, ger, we're now skewed regardless.
Abe: I'm going on YouTube. And
Jack: he tweets out that he's high on the list of potential signings. And apparently he's on the team already jr. Smith swapping him for Avery Bradley.
What do you think. How important is Avery Bradley's decision to sit out
Abe: massive, massive for the Lakers. I mean, LeBron has to pull this team out of the dust now again, I mean, I guess he's got to do it. He's got to do what he has to do. No, but seriously, it's not massive, but I think it's actually a big loss.
Like Avery Bradley is one of their best perimeter defenders. And I look at this totally from a standpoint of. Playing against the matchup with the Clippers who are running all this perimeter guys, all [00:12:00] in a small ball lineup, having to switch everything Avery Bradley can fill in guard a player that Danny green can't or whatever, a Rondo, he can't play any defense.
And I mean, this guy was a solid role player for them, and that's what the Lakers have finally been searching for. And it felt like towards the end of, or towards the end of the season, when COVID happened, they were finally getting that identity and everyone was finding a role. I mean, you play 24 minutes as a bench player.
He's averaging nine points per game. He shooting three and a half threes, a game he's averaging 36.4. I mean, that's huge for LeBron. He gets to the rim, Anthony Davis gets the REM and they can dish it out to these guys that can hit threes. Great. John rando is in water. If he fell out of a boat, like, yeah, it's Avery Bradley.
It's not an all star they're losing, but it's a key role player that finally found a role within that team. And I think that speaks volumes, especially when you look at the match-ups, they're going to have to
Jack: play. I agree.
Abe: I mean, I'd like to do the LeBron aspect. Like what more does this guy have to do?
Jack: So if anyone wants to go to Bleacher report [00:13:00] and scroll down, like 20 posts, find the post that says Avery Bradley has opted out of returning for the remainder of the season. I have the top comment. I'm very proud of it. And it's just as simple as. LeBron fans now have their excuse, which even a couldn't deny that it was like, you know, what's even better.
Abe: I'm choking.
Jack: Okay. No, I know you are,
Abe: but unless, and unless he loses
Jack: exactly within every joke, there's a truth to it. I think if I'm not kidding. And I'm just thinking about this on the spot. I don't know if there's a more perfect person to have pulled out. For the LeBron fans. Excuse I genuinely Dan green,
Abe: probably just because someone could say that's the championship mind.
Like he's been there before. That's more experience Rondo, even though Rondo has been absolute dog shit for them.
Jack: No, I don't think Rhonda would have given it, but
Abe: why don't you play off Rondo? Have I not told you about him?
Jack: But the one reason why I think Avery Bradley might be even more perfect than Danny green.
I think if the Lakers actually did lose Danny green, they would be [00:14:00] in trouble. Like Danny green, hasn't been spectacular for them this season, but we know if they're going to make that run, he's going to have to hit big shots and space the floor and play some defense and bring that veteran leadership.
Abe: I know you remember Avery Bradley and that Sunday afternoon game against the Clippers right before it all went down.
Jack: And, and that's why everyone knows inside. Like, it's really not a massive loss. But it's the perfect player to pin it on. If they don't
Abe: actually think it's a bigger loss than your gift, then you're, then you're making it seem the way, the thing, how we can do on both sides of the floor. That's hard to find
Jack: you can get over it.
There's no Smith. No, that's not, that's not the perfect replacement, but you can get over losing Avery Bradley. I don't know if the Lakers get past losing a Danny green or
Abe: Alex Caruso has entered the chat.
Jack: Apparently he's terrible. I'm not sure. Uh, anything else? Thoughts on that MBA?
Abe: I mean, it's a bad week to start with your name, start with joke.
[00:15:00] Jack: The
Abe: George's being a Serbian athlete.
Jack: Yeah, well that they kind of brought that upon themselves doing it.
Abe: Let's just talk about a little tennis. Do you understand what Novak Djokovich did?
Jack: That's correct.
Abe: He was literally to prove a point that Serbia and Croatia and these other countries, which they are handling the Corona virus better than the U S he held a spite tournament.
Not for anything. Just these guys who go play tennis for fun fans, ball boys, the whole nine parties after now, everyone in their mothers there got the coronavirus
Jack: full bloom respect for
Abe: a
Jack: tennis tournament though,
Abe: dude, just, I mean, yeah. And I love the idea and the thought behind it just didn't go your
Jack: way.
No, but it went exactly as we kind of expected,
Abe: but I'm curious if. Like we see big names drop out. I mean, we haven't seen a lot of talk from a lot of people saying they don't want to play for social justice issues.
Jack: That's kind of calmed down recently.
Abe: I haven't heard much Kyrie willing to risk it all. I don't, I haven't seen your retirement papers.
[00:16:00] Jack: God. Alright. So the MLB we go, this sport is officially back for, there seems to be like, there's going to be a lot more motion and activity. In an mob situation, then they're what in the NBA, like we're so worried about the MBA, but it's half it's 20 of the teams. It's not even all 30, it's less players on a roster.
You need less people to produce a game. How are they going to make the MLB work? And what are the rules that you want to
Abe: pick up? I already told you the MLB is not happening.
Jack: But it's back. So,
Abe: no, it's not. It'll be back when a first pitch is thrown. I have gotten so many DMZs days, kids lying. You're probably being spam right now.
Yeah, I am. I am being spent boost bulls book. Just take to nature. Well, you know what? Pump the brakes. Yeah. They made a deal. Congratulations. It was a mandate. So what, and now they don't understand. There's still a pandemic going on. Half of the teams, spring training facilities is in Florida. The epicenter, [00:17:00] the other half is an
Jack: Arizona planning to play these games.
Abe: Oh, all over the country at their home stadiums.
Jack: No, wait,
Abe: listen, listen. The way it's working to keep travel limited. The NLI. So you play 60 games total, you pay 40 games within your division, and then you play 20 games against your, um, in early counterparts. So yeah, we're going to get a few Phillies Oriel series.
The ALS we'll play
Jack: the, Oh really?
Abe: Yeah. The ALS we'll play the NLS for 20 games, the AOL central petty, NL central,
Jack: but the Marlins and aren't even close to the rest of those teams. You know what I mean? Like when they
Abe: got the Braves.
Jack: But I'm saying they sell it to fly to Baltimore
Abe: and it's absolutely stupid.
It's absolutely ridiculous. And, but we got some Phillies Orioles. We can throw a few bets on that if you want.
Jack: There was a guy. So I was hyping up the oils coming back because I don't know. I want to act like I like baseball at all. And I was reading through the replies in some guy literally wrote, I will be standing outside the left field [00:18:00] Gates, even if we're not allowed in the stadium,
Abe: you have Camden yards.
Jack: Out of your damn mind, if you would show up and watch an Orioles game from outside of the stadium, you've just got you just
Abe: get Camden yards is a historic stadium. I caught my only, I caught my only ever foul ball there sat behind the plate. Shout out Jay Gibbons. You remember him?
Jack: Jay givens? I swear my life.
I didn't catch the ball, but that was the one foul ball that I ever received. It got hit into the seats next to us and the guy handed it to me.
Abe: Okay. I got a little confession. Um, so that foul ball I caught. So I was sitting like we had good seats right behind home plate. It was an Orioles game. So no one was there.
The ball, there was a pop fly. It went over our heads. It bounced like 18 rows up, but no one was there. It hit the chair and then bounced all the way. To
Jack: my sense, a big Oreo thing, the ricochet, we love it all.
Abe: I didn't catch it, but it bounced off a chair and then landed next to me.
[00:19:00] Jack: I didn't even like catch mine or like get mine.
It was
Abe: picked it up off the ground.
Jack: Yeah, no, that, that definitely counts. If anyone at home thinks that doesn't count. Let me know. I'm curious from the fam what's like the craziest ball story that had, like, it could be maybe
Abe: like hit in the head.
Jack: Well, my cousin did buy an eight rod foul ball, God signed balls and stuff.
I would take an, a rod.
Abe: How's your cousin now.
Jack: He's good. All right. So it's worth
Abe: a little
Jack: doozy, but you know, it is,
Abe: but the rules.
Jack: Yeah. And the rules.
Abe: So, I mean, the schedule is weird. I mean, you look at it like the NLS, like the AOS it's chilling, you know what stinks? It's just the Dodgers. Um, the ALS and the Annalise.
I mean, God damn, we gotta play everyone.
Jack: I mean, the Orioles literally might win six games.
Abe: I mean, that's the thing with the schedule. All these top teams that are in the league. They're not going to make the playoffs. I guarantee it it's literally just who gets hot. The nationals record. Last year, I forget [00:20:00] what it was.
It was like 18 and 40 something. And they went
Jack: along with it. They weren't that bad.
Abe: They were really bad to start the year. And it's just about who's hot and it's going to be an anomaly of a season. You got the universal DH. You got the man. I wish I don't hate the university age. I kind of wish that would go into effect.
Jack: you got the manual. Explain the rules.
Abe: Explain. I am, but you're DH 60 game, season 40 verse your division 20 verse your inner league, counterpart a man on second base to start extra innings. Ridiculous.
Jack: Yeah, let's talk about this. We have had some disagreement over this, so I would love to hear I'm more of a casual baseball fan.
I think this makes sense. Obviously, the ideology behind it is you put a man on second base with non out. This is going to produce runs faster games. Aren't going to go into extras for longer. It's going to keep the game shorter, which is what they need, because they don't want to run these flyers out. You hate the rule.
Tell me why you hate the rule.
Abe: And I [00:21:00] hate them. I hate the rule because I'm not a casual fan because I'm actually a baseball fan. There's two totally different sides. And the
Jack: NFL is right.
Abe: What bothers me about it is just not baseball.
Jack: Right? That's see. That's such an old way of thinking
Abe: a hundred percent.
And what the MLB is doing is, is the right thing. They're trying to appeal to the casual fan because they know this season is such an anomaly that they have to try and do anything they can. It's a short season. So every game matters that much more. The casual fan complaints that there's too much games.
People like me don't really care. I like the one 62. I like the ebbs and flows. Could it be one 20? Could it be a hundred? Yeah. 60 games. It's just not baseball, but it makes every game matter. And that'll maybe cause more viewers, you get, look at the NFL. It became a very pass heavy league from rundown because more points is more exciting and the analytics behind it.
So the NLB is trying to spice it up, make the game shorter. Make more runs happen and it's just more exciting. But the thing is they can [00:22:00] try all this casual appeal to the casual fan with these rules and everything, the DH, the man on second. Meanwhile, the man on second is only for the regular season playoffs.
It goes back to normal.
Jack: That's expected the
Abe: MLB doesn't understand. They're not going to get the casual fan. Because the casual fan is going to be watching NBA playoffs in the
Jack: NFL. Yeah. The timing they mess up the time. And we've already discussed that I've
Abe: chewed her a month ago.
Jack: I have two things.
Number one, I think the man on second, if old baseball heads are so upset by it, I don't know the reasoning is, is all about strategy and all that type of stuff. This just is an added layer of strategy. And then number two, This is in baseball and you like the ebbs and flows and stuff, but the only reason there's ebbs and flows in one 62 is because there's literally an important games, unimportant games throughout the course of the season.
People take days off, they take weeks off mentally. This is 60 games you're locked in for two and a half months. Why can't this just be. 60 good games. [00:23:00] Why does anyone have to get hot? Shouldn't the best teams be locked in from start to finish.
Abe: They won't be,
Jack: I don't see why not,
Abe: because that's just, it's just not how baseball is,
Jack: but this isn't baseball is my point.
Normally don't lock him for the first 60 because you realize, yeah, we have a hundred more after this. Why won't the best players lock it? Yes, they will go through a 10 game stretch where they're not hitting well. But over the course of 60 games, I actually think that is a big enough sample size to where the best of the best will wean itself out.
It will there be a team that maybe escapes and gets into the wild card? Cause they got hot early. Yes, but there's also an extended playoffs.
Abe: Let me ask you a question. If the NFL played five games and once to the playoffs, do you think that that still football, everyone shows up and it's a fair representation of what the season is.
If they find out what the equivalent is,
Jack: but the only difference that I would say is you're playing these teams one time and you could get screwed, right? One team might have to play. [00:24:00] They might get the Brown, like our division this year. Like if it was just by division, we might get Browns
Abe: and Steelers this year.
Jack: I am this year, but I'm talking about last year, like last year, Or the Eagles, for example, all you would have had to play was Cowboys giants, Redskins, where the NFC West would have had four tough games. I think by playing 40 games, what's that eight per team in your division. Something like that will be the math tent.
Uh, 40 games in your division
Abe: division of 10 games,
Jack: 10 games. So there's enough of the sample size where you can, you know who you're playing over the course of time. But if they
Abe: understand what you're saying about why don't the top players just come all out for 60 games, but I'm telling you
Jack: that come all out.
It's not coming all out. It's the reason why. There's not a pitching change in the seventh inning of game 32 is because we have 130 more to go. But game 32 this year, maybe that you do bring in a relief pitcher just for that one out. You don't do that right in game 32.
Abe: Well, I don't [00:25:00] know what the rule is now because before the MLB season started, you had to have the two batter rule, which is ridiculous, in my opinion, that's
Jack: ridiculous
Abe: because of what you said, it's the strategy thing and it ruins the value.
I have a guy like me, a lefthanded reliever. Totally, but I mean, they say the NLB season's happening. It's going to be very strange. I think you're going to see a lot of teams that were supposed to be good, not make the playoffs a lot of teams that weren't supposed to be good. Make the playoffs. Oh no, it's very interesting.
Jack: At the end of it all though, do you have any doubt? The Dodgers and the Yankees will be in the playoffs with a good chance to win it all.
Abe: Yeah, I do have doubt. I think it's a total.
Jack: You think they won't make the playoffs?
Abe: I don't think they won't. I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't make the playoffs.
Jack: Really. Yeah. Interesting. The
Abe: way that, the way this whole thing is going, dude. Yeah. I T ran any team in the division. They're not expanding the playoffs to which they thought they were going to
Jack: do, or they didn't.
[00:26:00] Abe: They're not going to spend the playoff. So the blue Jays could get hot. And then they're in the playoffs.
Like they're a young enough coming team with good prospects. Like it's literally anybody's game in my opinion. And I mean, the Yankees, they lost Severino again,
Jack: cause every, no really still considered on their roster.
Abe: Every time he pitches he's fired and he just gets shut down
Jack: once a year. He's literally like a UFC fighter for them.
Yeah, he gets all hyped up for the appearance he's out for the season. All right. The, what the hell internet graphic of the week comes from our boy, Jay Williams, snapback fam our blood back fam member. He posted a fun little graphic, and this will be posted on snapback pod on Instagram tomorrow. Thanks to Abraham, obviously.
The graphic is such pick one player to build your team around and then pick one coach to hire for your team. And we're doing this for the next, correct?
Abe: Read the caption. So everyone knows what the role they have to assume
Jack: you are James Dolan of the next you get one player and one coach for the future of your franchise [00:27:00] pick wisely.
All right. The players to build your team around. So are we taking the current next roster into account here? That's important. I think we should, for the sake of the argument,
Abe: it doesn't change my answer.
Jack: Okay. Fair enough. Pick one player to build your team around Zion jaw Luca, Karl Anthony towns, or Trey young, and then pick one, coach Jay kid, Mike Brown, Becky Hammond.
John Calipari and Mark Jackson. Abe.
Abe: Why is cat on this list?
Jack: he wants to be at Nick.
Abe: I mean, yeah, he has the, I mean, what do you think about worldwide? What's actually, huh? Everywhere. He goes, he lives a worldwide mess.
Jack: I, I tweeted today. I was like the next made a move. And it wasn't highly criticized by
Abe: everyone.
It was expected. It was expected. Leon and worldwide West have been working together for a year.
Jack: But even if we do anything expected, it's still criticized. Is Leon Rose doing anything? He hasn't done anything yet, but he hasn't messed up, which [00:28:00] is a huge thing. When you're a Knicks, what is he president or something?
Who are you picking? Who are you picking?
Abe: It's a no brainer for me. It's Luca and Mark Jackson.
Jack: Why? Mark Jackson?
Abe: Because, you know how big I am on March Jackson. He, he, he built the pool that Steve Kirk had swimming with the warriors. Also the New York ties. He knows how to hate what the media is like there, he knows how scrutinized the position can be.
He has the experience in New York and he has the coaching experience. John Cal Perry. Whoever's going to stay that shut up. Just shut us.
Jack: Pretty close to saying it.
Abe: I figured you were going to like, like it's ones, people like suggest J right. Should be the Sixers coach. Shut up these college guys
Jack: always to hire.
Abe: it wouldn't in hindsight and beat Jack. Yeah, it'd be cool. Cause the guys good luck. And dude, Brett Brown looks like shit, but like we've seen look at Jim Boylen. Oh no, not Jim boy. What was his name? Fred Hoiberg. And I'm
Jack: not bad. I'm not bad. I'm not there. Hi, my bad, my bad.
Abe: They [00:29:00] looked the same people
Jack: on the line
Abe: and their names sound the same.
Jack: And it's Jim and John. John beeline.
Abe: Gym. Yeah,
Jack: that's crazy.
Abe: Yeah. These college guys, it's very hard to be successful at the NBA
Jack: level yet. It's been good. He's
Abe: been all right. He's been fine, but I mean, Luca, the guy's an MVP candidate already. I mean, what is he? 17 years old still. And Mark Jackson with the New York ties.
He built the warriors. No brainer for me.
Jack: So Mark Jackson, there's big debates over who gets the credit? Like was it just a matter of time and it fell into his lap or did he truly develop these guys on lock them? And then Steve Kurt
Abe: took, all I know is Mark Jackson said. That this is the greatest shooting back court of all time before anyone else did.
And people thought he was bat shit. Crazy
Jack: is crazy.
Abe: It is. And he's a
Jack: lot, he's a lot. You've heard about his locker room stuff, like kind of putting Christ on everyone. And the Bible reads. I haven't heard that yet,
[00:30:00] Abe: but he's also my boy. Like I met him. He IDM with
Jack: he's the man, he's the man he'll be on the pod one day.
Uh, I agree with your pick. Luca is. The sure fire specifically for the next that knocks towns out. Cause we have Metro Zions. Interesting jaw, if you like that style play over Luca, but Luca is the best player on the board without adapt. Pick one, coach, let me go through the five just so I can give Nick's fans.
My thought process. Jason Kidd, horrible coach. We're not getting them because Yannis. Was played with him and he
Abe: loved them and he helped develop them.
Jack: Right. And that's good. We're going to hire a guy to hopefully get you honest, no yams to come in. Regardless. We don't need kid Mike Brown, which I'll come back to Becky Hammond.
I love, I don't know if she's ready to become a head coach yet. I think she'll fill in for pop. Maybe one day. That would be ideal. But I don't think she's ready for New York. That would be a very tough gig to have
Abe: on the first female coach in NBA history in New York,
Jack: in New York on a [00:31:00] shitty New York team.
That's just the setting I'm down.
Abe: I was kinda all in,
Jack: no, I'm all in on the Knicks. Hiring her. Calipari. I actually liked that idea, but I do agree. It's tough, Mark Jackson, I'm out on, even though he has the New York ties, which leaves me with Mike Brown, I think Mike Brown, it's a really bad rep. There's only been really one coach ever.
Who's successfully dealt with LeBron James. That was Eric Spoelstra. Tyler got lucky for a year and then he literally got fired.
Abe: Why? Ty Lou didn't deal with
Jack: him. I'm saying. It just kind of all came together. Tyler who happened to be the figurehead
Abe: dispose the only one that ever coached LeBron. Exactly.
Bronze coach, every
Jack: other team. Exactly. And Mike Woodson was one of them.
Abe: He's not a damn good job,
Jack: but Mike Woodson actually, I feel like was solid random. Mike Brown, sorry, Mike, Brett Brown got pushed out because they couldn't get LeBron over the top. But what has he done since that he's been on the warriors head coaching theft.
I'm pretty sure he's on isn't he [00:32:00] on the Lakers or the Clippers this year? But geez, he's on one of them. Yeah. He stays like in those high profile and NBA coaches love him. So I wouldn't like that. I mean, I wouldn't mind that higher for the night.
Abe: I I'm curious, like how much assistant coaches actually matter in the MBA.
Jack: I feel like they have to matter a lot personally, I
Abe: think for I, yeah. Player development and when it comes to like game planning for the playoffs. Yeah. But, um, I don't know. I just like, you know, coordinators mean a lot and assistant coaches in the NFL mean a lot. Just, you never really hear much about assistant coaches in the NBA because there's only one guy standing up on the sidelines.
Like Brown has obviously been in these highly prolific roles and under these great guys, but. I mean, who knows what he's actually doing in those
Jack: homes? Yeah. Maybe he's a great number two. And there's some people that are like that as well in the business world and real life, et cetera. There's great.
Number twos who just aren't cut out to be, because a lot of the time, like you're saying the number one is actually [00:33:00] just a figurehead and maybe this isn't coaches are the game planners and the offensive and defensive coordinators for the basketball team. I think what the next probably will end up doing though, hopefully is signing Kenny Atkinson.
Kenny Atkinson is rebuilt cultures all over the NBA. He has Nick's ties. We have so many young players, like if you turned Spencer Dinwiddie and care, subvert and de lo into those guys, and he gets his hands on some true talent. That's an exciting comedy. I mean, RJ Barrett is an undeniable
Abe: talent. I just can't believe you've said those three names then followed up with if he gets true talent, like they're good players.
Jack: They're good, dude. They're not though. They weren't thinking about how bad DLO was. Think about how bad Spencer Dinwiddie has been elite for eight years. No one had ever
Abe: heard that, but they're good players now. Yeah, he helped, but
Jack: you're saying,
Abe: Oh, you're saying the next players are already good.
Jack: I'm saying he gets his hand.
No, I'm saying he gets his hands on true raw talent. He took some bottom shelf guys and turn them up a level.
Abe: The Angela [00:34:00] Russell was the top pick in the NBA,
Jack: but it had been awhile, but it had been awhile
Abe: because the verb was supposed to be a top 10 pick until he got hurt. And now he's just been a stud when he recovered, don't deny carousel of art's talent of
Jack: Abe.
Abe predicted cares the verb, most improved player. He didn't
Abe: get hurt. He was on pace.
Jack: We should, uh, next episode. Uh, Eagleson write this down. We should talk about our preseason predictions. Bring those back. We'll obviously avoid the champion because injuries and stuff, but the rest of the physicians are definitely in fly.
Uh, alright. On to ranked on two ranked on this week's ranked, we are ranking the top three school yard activities. This is on the basis of I tweeted out. I don't know. Oh, I saw a sick clip. I posted on my story of. A kid playing kickball and he kicks the ball literally over the school. Like that's, every kid's dream is to kick a kickball as far as you can.
So I tweeted do today's generation actually play kickball. Like I'm trying to picture what today's kids do at school during [00:35:00] recess. Do they even have recess or everybody? Exactly. What's their phone.
Abe: I'll tell you exactly what they do. They make tick talks.
Jack: Yeah. They make tickets a
Abe: hundred percent.
Jack: Yeah. So everything feels connected to their phone.
So we bring this up because one, if you're listening and you're in middle school or
Abe: listen to our podcast during your damn recess,
Jack: but do you. Play kickball. And now Amy and I are going to rank our top three. So I believe I start. Yes. That's how this works.
Abe: Did you, did you get recess during private school today?
Where's your study time?
Jack: No, there was recess. There was recess. My number is three is kickball. Kickball is a great, it's a great activity. I think it's one of the rare. Where I could play with, it could be class first class, so it could be guys and girls on the same team. And, uh, you know, like, I don't know in today's age where this could end up, but everyone felt like a part of the team and no one [00:36:00] was lessening the team.
I'll leave that.
Abe: So yeah, kickball crushes. Obviously it's going to be higher on my list. I just tease that, but I actually, yeah, kickball was the shit and I was like, I was a heavy kid. I was fat when I was little. I could bomb that thing. Yes. Just towed the shit out of it.
Jack: No better feeling.
Abe: Um, and if you catch a fly ball, Awesome feeling.
I played in a kick charity kickball tournament last year. And like, it was just like riding a bike. I was
Jack: dirt. So we should just leave it. We shouldn't just leave it out there, but pegging someone with the ball is the best way to get anyone out in really any sport hundred percent we have a sport of a activity we might've left
Abe: off.
I didn't leave it off if I know what you're thinking. Um, yeah. And then. Oh, yeah. I was in a charity tournament and I was playing and I we've got like the semifinals or whatever. And then we lost, it was a good time, but I was so sore the next day and so many random parts of my body. Cause I haven't used that muscle group since I [00:37:00] was like, I don't know
Jack: what muscle group is that
Abe: dude, I don't know.
Jack: Rockets full body. It's full body.
Abe: Anyway, kickball is a great game. Number three for me, we called it Sui. But I think that, I think the conventional name for it is just wall ball. Oh yeah. Like throwing a ball against the wall and you have to catch it up like cleanly. And if you don't, you have to go tag the wall before someone else can get it and throw it.
Um, yeah, we called it Sui. We played with like, uh, those pink really bouncy balls. Yeah. And it would always like go in the gutter and then you'd be the most hated kid that day came in. He came to school with a bad mood. You just started throwing up there just to piss people off. So we wall ball, whatever you want to call it.
Fantastic game. My number two kickball. Obviously, I don't need to explain anymore. We just went into it. Kickball is just awesome. American pastime,
Jack: easy pick. All right. My number two, I don't know if this is an everyone game, but, and we also couldn't figure out the name pre pod, but I'm calling it [00:38:00] in the pickle.
It's I
Abe: think it's called run the basis.
Jack: I don't think it's called run the basics. Cause it's not, you're not running really any basis you're running between two basis. If anyone knows the game we're referring to someone stands on first base or you put down like a cone, someone stands on second base or you put down a shirt, whatever.
And there's two base fall guys and they throw a tennis ball and there's like 50 people. They run back and forth and then whoever lasts, they have to win and they see how many times they can make it from the base back and forth. And that's how you win the game. I don't know what it was called, but that was a super fun game I like to play.
And then my number one school yard game, floor hockey. I don't know if this technically
Abe: wasn't that wasn't a recess game.
Jack: It's
Abe: what's a gen class game, right?
Jack: It's a gym class game
Abe: for talking gym class. I changed my list.
Jack: I might've stretched it. We weren't very particular on the
Abe: time allow it, but like if we're talking gym class games that I have, if we're talking pickle ball, we're talking folly ball, [00:39:00] like the gym volleyball, Mike
Jack: don't get me started.
So floor hockey for me was incredible. I don't know, at our school, it was like, A lead and I'm sure. Eagle center, Canadian producers blushing right now thinking about me playing hockey might even get a little central on the pod, but floor hockey, incredible,
incredible activity. And I was quite good. So I
Abe: I'm shocked you didn't pick this. My number one, just an all time classic watch ball. The best.
Jack: Just rocking,
Abe: rocking people. Yeah. Taking out aggression on people. You see weekly, weak links, you know, who can't catch it on the other team. You know who the athletes are and you just believe them.
Take it out on them. All your anger. You had a rough, your mom made a bad breakfast for you. Sorry. Mommy breakfast. Thank you. Come to school.
Jack: There's a lot on your mom's cooking on this bag.
Abe: My mom was actually a great cook, but, um, I'm just throwing her under the bus, but thought was just a classic. You catch [00:40:00] someone, they come back in just, you hit someone in the face.
Everyone goes, Oh, yells the whistle stop. But everyone thinks it's hilarious.
Jack: Yeah. Alright. Fam, make sure to DM us what we forgot off the list. A quick bonus. We're each going to throw out one extremely overrated school yard activity. Mine is. Mine is going to be jackpot.
Abe: Yeah, I'm just going to second. That jackpot stinks.
Jack: It's literally the dumbest word. Like I can't get behind a game where whoever's throwing. It just makes up the rules. And then within those set of rules, like I could be up to a million to zero,
Abe: no rules.
Jack: I could be of a million to zero and they it's just like jackpot. Okay. I would like, come on. Why am I going for these fifties risking
Abe: over your boy is, and you can throw it towards him.
Like. The game stunk. There was never any organization to it. There was never any ever a real winner. You never even finished the game.
Jack: So if floor hockey is more of a gym sport question for you. We would play [00:41:00] football during recess and it would be like on the tennis page and it would be three tennis courts in each.
Each court would be a first down then the end zone. And I'm
Abe: sure yours was way more organized. Now we, we went on a grass field and said past that tree to touchdown. Yeah, exactly.
Jack: So do you consider, do you consider school yard? Sport to be, not
Abe: what I would picture in my head, but we did do it. And it was only when we went to like the big boy field when we were allowed in fifth grade.
Um, yeah, the first through fourth graders were in the back and that's where like the kickball on everything went down.
Jack: Wait, what is, what is fifth grade? That's elementary school for you?
Abe: Yeah. Well, K through five is elementary. Six through eight is middle nine through,
Jack: yeah. Where we're fifth through eighth was middle school.
Abe: I wonder how that affected your maturity, your maturation versus mine.
Jack: That would be a fun study. That would be a fun study. All right. That unfortunately leaves us with just one segment left on this podcast and yes, Eagleson they get very excited [00:42:00] by the, uh, hockey pick, but it is now time for what the puck.
Abe: before we go. I
Jack: always do this. You left the timer running, dude. Lastly,
Abe: no, not last week's with the POC, like whatever I'm working out or whatever. If I'm doing something in a plank, I'll look a day back later or whatever. And I'll say 160 or like four days later, 162. I always do this and I bet it destroys my
Jack: battery.
I don't know if we've brought this up on the pod before. I feel like we have, but real quick, pull up your alarm. So on your phone.
Abe: Both of you have just one for every minute of the day.
Jack: Yeah. Okay. So there's two types of people. There's alarms for every minute of the day. And
Abe: a lot of them are on the five.
A lot of them are on the five minute Mark.
Jack: Okay. So I have, yeah, I have a bunch of five, six and seven every hour. And I w I set them Eagleson. Do you edit your alarm? So you only have a few, or do you have hundreds like Gabe and I. Hundreds. Okay. All right. Good.
Abe: have a confession while we're on the topic of like [00:43:00] being little and alarms, dude, I used to do the weirdest
Jack: thing ever.
Abe: So back in like middle school, high school, you know, like that feeling when you would wake up. Oh my God, this is so weird. My friends even make fun of me. You know how like you would wake up and like your, you know, your alarms going off at 8:00 AM, but you wake up at like four 15. You're like, no. And then you see the clock.
Like I can go back to bed. I swear.
Jack: You told me this. You've told me this.
Abe: I used to set an alarm for like a random minute every night, like three 14. Like four 45, just, just so I could get that feeling. Sometimes I would get that feeling other times. I wouldn't even remember the alarm going off, but this wasn't like, I did it a few times.
Like I did it every night.
Jack: Talk about messing up your maturation. How about never sleeping fully through the night? Have you ever hit REM before
Abe: dude? I don't know. Who's who's trying to get me. I'm just trying to stay woke.
Jack: Alright, here we go. Here. Get this timer set
Abe: by grind.
[00:44:00] Jack: Get the timer ready for what?
The puck. And then a count. Always take the IC. I like that intro, but. Explain the segment for people who are now.
Abe: Yeah, it's pretty easy. No one really cares about hockey on this podcast, except for Eagleson. And he's always asking to talk about it. So he gets one minute a week to talk about it, a
Jack: Buddha, and he's a kid himself
Abe: in his little Toronto maple leaf Saturday.
Alright. Three, two, one. Cool. All right.
Jack: The Colorado avalanche are going to win the Stanley cup this season. Tell you why we're going to start up front. Nathan MacKinnon. MVP candidate, great player.
Abe: I don't think people truly understand
Jack: how good this guy is.
Abe: This season in 69 games, he had 93 points last season,
Jack: 99 points and 82 games.
This guy gets better every single day. He's amazing. Gabriel Landis cog he's past his
Abe: prime, but he still
Jack: scored
Abe: 44 points
Jack: and 54 games not to mention. He brings [00:45:00] the veteran presence to a younger team, Mikko Renon. Sure. If you look at his numbers this year, you might think he regressed, but you know, he was pretty injured all throughout the year.
He also had
Abe: 87 points last season. So if he
Jack: gets back to that for this playoffs, they're going to be set there. All fence is easily the best in the Western conference.
Abe: And also not to mention their 50 point
Jack: rookie defenseman, kale, McCarthy. He's amazing. Yeah.
Abe: that was that name. Then he said,
Jack: I heard talk. I served some car coming out of Eagles out there.
Abe: We cut that part.
Jack: I don't know. So
Abe: listen, you gave me no information about what's going on in hockey. You just told me the avalanche roster
Jack: he's on mute so we can't attack him and I'll defend him.
Abe: No, that's the only time we can attack
Jack: it. We did. We did preface last week. What the puck with he's going to make his prediction.
Cause he got cut off. So he gave his prediction on the [00:46:00] Avalon, but all he did was name players. And he
Abe: did that thing that everyone does. Like you did it with the Ravens and Jamal Adams, you just named the roster. We got him, we got him, we got him, bro. I can look up the roster.
Jack: Here's why the Sixers are going to win the title.
They had Ben Simmons. He averaged 20 points per game. They had Joelle MV. That's what it sounded like to me and then eat through a cock in there. But. Uh, that's what the park. Thank you to Andrew.
Abe: Eagleson flyers are gonna win the CAPY.
Jack: Eh, uh, all right. That's all the time we have for this episode of the snapback sports, by make sure to hit that subscribe button.
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Jack: Okay. Don't attack,
Abe: man. I, my grandma doesn't have great memories. She's old. I'm an attack. It's just a fact.
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Abe: No, it's just like my grandma's old.
She forgets things Sue me.
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About the Polish reaction to the Soviet Invasion in 1939
https://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=32575
by Domen123
Backstage of the Polish decision to withdraw to Romania and to avoid resisting the Red Army:
Soviet ambassador - Sharonov - leaves Poland and goes back to the USSR after ensuring the Polish foreign minister Joseph Beck, that "the attitute of the USSR towards Poland is friendly and the USSR is going to remain neutral".
Of course, as we know today, Sharonov lied.
The official note of Vyacheslav Molotov to Polish ambassador Waclav Grzybowski:
Vyacheslav Molotov wrote: "The Polish-German war has revealed the internal bankruptcy of the Polish state. In ten days of warfare Poland had lost all of its industrial and cultural centers. Warsaw, as a Polish capital city, does not exist any more. The Polish government has disintegrated and does not show signs of life. This means that the Polish state and its government have in fact ceased to exist. That is why all agreements signed between Poland and the USSR have lost their power. Poland, left to fend for herself, became an easy field for all kinds of dangerous and sudden actions, which may become a threat for the USSR. That's why the Soviet government, which until now was keeping neutrality, cannot in the face of these facts continue to display a neutral position.
The Soviet government cannot also stay indifferent towards the fact, that the cognate population of Ukrainian and Belarusian origin inhabiting the Polish territory is defenceless and has been left to fend for themselves.
Thus the Soviet government had ordered the High Command of the Red Army, to order its forces to cross the border and take care of the lives and the property of the population of Western Ukraine and Western Belarus.
The Soviet government also intends to take all measures aimed at liberating the Polish nation from the destructive war, into which its unreasonable leaders have pushed it, and enabling it to live in peace."
The official response of Polish ambassador Waclav Grzybowski for the note of Vyacheslav Molotov:
Waclaw Grzybowski wrote: "Any of the arguments used in the note to justify the turning of Polish-Soviet agreements into just pieces of paper, does not withstand reasonable criticism. According to my knowledge the Head of the Polish state and the Government of Poland are present on the Polish territory. The sovereignity of any state exists as long as soldiers of the Regular Army of this particular state are fighting. This, what the note claims about the situation of national minorities in Poland, is a nonsense. In our previous discussions, you, Mr. Molotov, was repeatedly talking about the Slavonic Solidarity. Where is your Slavonic Solidarity now?
During the World War territories of Serbia and Bulgaria were occupied, yet nobody entertained a thought that due to this fact commitments towards these states should be considered as invalid. Napoleon Bonaparte captured Moscow, but as long as Kutuzov's Army was existing, it was considered that Russia still exists. Warsaw is still defending. The Polish State still exists."
The "General Directive" of marschall Rydz-Smigly from 17.09.1939:
Edward Rydz-Smigly wrote: "The Soviets had entered. I command to withdraw to Romania and Hungary along the shortest possible routes. Do not fight against the Bolsheviks, unless they attack first or try to disarm our units. The task of Warsaw and cities, which were to defend against the Germans - without changes. Cities to which the Bolsheviks will approach, should negotiate with them concerning the departure of garrisons to Romania or Hungary.
Marschall Edward Rydz-Smigly, General HQ of the Polish Army, 10:00 p.m., 17.09.1939."
That's why only some units chose (or were forced to - by attitude of Soviet soldiers) to fight against the Soviets - the other ones were defeated by surprise or negotiated trying to induce the Soviets to let them pass to Romania (and usually negotiations were without success and Soviet forces were capturing those units).
The first decision of Marschall Rydz-Smigly was to fight firmly against the Soviet Invasion.
Polish Chief of Staff in September of 1939 - Waclaw Stachiewicz - writes about this:
"It was just very hard to accept the idea, that the new aggressor was going to capture our territory without resistance. That his unprecedented, treacherous deed was going to remain without an armed response from our side."
But while hours were passing, further and further reports from the new frontline about the tremendous strength and numbers of Soviet invasion forces were arriving at the Polish General Headquarters, especially from the direction of Lwow and Stanislawow. The new idea appeared in the Polish General HQ, that the Soviet invasion completely scratches through all Polish defensive abilities until the start of the French offensive in the West.
One of Polish staff officers stated:
"We have to die here."
Marschall Rydz-Smigly responded:
"But what will be Poland's profit from our death? We have to form a new army in France. We have to keep fighting. These officers, who are present here - this is a precious cadre, essential for these goals."
Then, after two conferences with members of the Polish government (the first in Kolomyja with participation of Polish Prime Minister Felicjan Sławoj Składkowski and the Polish Foreign Minister Józef Beck, the second in Kuty with participation of all these persons as well as the Polish president prof. Ignacy Mościcki), the decision was taken to withdraw to Romania and marschall Rydz-Smigly issued the whole bunch of detailed orders to all units with which he had got direct contact, as well as announced by the Radio Station of the General HQ of the Polish Army and by intermediary radio stations, his "General Directive" which was already quoted above.
And here is the list of detailed orders issued by Rydz-Smigly and the General HQ after the Soviet Invasion:
6:30 a.m.:
An order for units of the Border Defense Corps (Korpus Ochrony Pogranicza = KOP) Regiment "Czortkow" ordering them to hold their defensive positions along the border and withdraw only if under sharp enemy pressure.
An order for the commander of Border Defense Corps (KOP) Regiment "Czortkow" ordering him to send parliamentarians to Soviet forces with inquiry about the character and purpose of their intervention.
An order for the commander of Army "Karpaty" informing him about the new situation and ordering him to transmit further orders to General Narbut-Luczynski (commander of Garrison of the city of Tarnopol) and General Jacyna-Jatelnicki (commander of Garrison of Mikulince) to put into combat readiness mode all Polish units on their defensive positions along the Seret river and put resistance against the "Bolsheviks" along this line, while all other units under command of these generals should be ordered to retreat towards the Transdniestr area.
The exact reading of this order was:
"At dawn of this day Soviet forces have crossed the state border along the line from Dniestr to Wolczyska inclusive. The Soviet forces have captured: Skala, by a Soviet cavalry regiment which advances towards Borszczow; Husiatyn - by a Soviet infantry battalion with artillery and tanks; Podwolczyska - until now exact Soviet forces not recognized.
The KOP Regiment "Czortkow" is involved in combats against enemy units and withdraws along the following line:
- battalion "Skalat" towards Trembowla
- battalion "Kopyczynce" across Czortkow and Buczacz towards Nizniow
- battalion "Borszczow" across Tluste Miasto towards Uscieszko
Mr. Marschall ordered to put into combat readiness all units which are along the Seret with task to put up resistance against the Bolsheviks along this line. Other units are ordered to withdraw towards the southern bank of the Dniestr."
Chef of Staff of General Fabrycy's Army "Karpaty" - Colonel Pstrokonski - about the Soviet invasion:
"The message about the Bolshevik attack immediately ruined all our efforts. I was depressed".
Between 8:00 a.m. and 9:00 a.m.:
Captain Waclaw Chocianowicz was sent towards the bridges on the Dniestr river in order to establish contact with the Soviets and ask them about the character of their intervention.
An order for the commander of the defense of the Dniestr river bridge in Uscieszko ordering him to barricade the bridge and to prepare it for detonation, which should take place only in case of a massive attack of Soviet armoured units - otherwise the bridge must be defended but not destroyed.
Around 9:50 a.m.:
An order for General Jacyna-Jatelnicki, changing the previous order from 8:15 a.m. and ordering him to use all forces which hadn't yet started their withdrawal towards the Transdniestr area to put resistance against Soviet forces in their own areas.
Around Midday:
An order (phone call) from Colonel Jaklicz to Captain Chocianowicz ordering him to ensure that the bridge in Uscieszko was going to be detonated if it was going to be necessary.
0:20 p.m.:
An order for the Headquarters of Army "Karpaty" confirming previous orders from General Fabrycy received in the evening on 16.09.1939 and an order - or rather confirmation of the previous order - to hold the police, administrative authorities, railway services and postal services where they were (on the spot).
Between 2:00 and 3:00 p.m.:
General Narbut-Luczynski and Colonel Stanislaw Pelc were sent to the Headquarters of Army "Karpaty" with verbal order to withdraw the entire army behind the Romanian and Hungarian borders.
Same order was delivered by General Waclaw Stachiewicz to General Paszkiewicz and General Dembinski (commander of Group "Stryj") by phone.
An order for the High Command of Army "Karpaty" ordering them to withdraw the soldiers and the equipment to Romania, perchance to Hungary, however the Group of General Dembinski (Group "Stryj") was ordered to stay on its defensive positions and wait for the arrival of forces under command of General Kazimierz Sosnkowski, establish contact with these forces "for any price", and only then withdraw together to Hungary.
From the Diary of General Dembinski:
Day: 17.09.1939... time: 15:30... an order from the High Command to discontinue combats and to withdraw all units into the Hungarian territory. Sending reconnaissance units towards Lwow in order to establish contact with units of General K. Sosnkowski in the region of Mszana...
An order for all of Polish Air Force to withdraw to Romania ("fundamentally to Czerniowce airport").
An order for General Skuratowicz (commander of Garrison of the city of Lutsk), General Dab-Biernacki (commander of the Northern Front, consisting of Army "Modlin", Operational Group "Kruszewski" and Cavalry Operational Group "Anders") and General Kleeberg (commander of Independent Operational Group "Polesie") ordering them to withdraw to Romania.
Order was delivered via air (liaison plane).
Lt.Col. Dudek (commander of Group "Drohobycz") - was informed by General Dembinski (commander of Group "Stryj") about the Soviet Invasion:
(...) the eastern neighbour has crossed the border and is now in the distance of about 30 kilometres from your forces - any combats against his forces should be avoided - fight only when his forces attack first.
This order had to be repeated by Gen. Dembinski TWO MORE TIMES - because Lt. Col. Dudek COULD NOT BELIEVE in this fact at first.
An order to the Communication Center in Bobrka ordering them to establish communications with General Kazimierz Sosnkowski and to deliver him the order of withdrawing to Hungary as quickly as possible (together with forces of Dembinski).
General Milan-Kamski returned back to Kolomyja from his inspection of defensive lines along the Dniestr river. In the face of new situation (Soviet Invasion) General Waclaw Stachiewicz (the Chief of Staff of the Polish High Command) released him from his previous task (organizing defensive lines along the Dniestr river) and ordered him to withdraw behind the Romanian border.
General Milan-Kamski wrote about the order of "not fighting against the Soviets" received from Stachiewicz in Kolomyja:
"(...) In a longer argument the Chef of Staff of the High Command explained to me the reasons of this order, declaring that the Commander In Chief, not seeing any possibility of efficiently resisting against the Soviet armies, wants to extract as many military forces as he can to continue combats on another front in the future and that the decision has been taken to cross the border. Therefore he concluded - if the Russians are not attacking and are not disturbing our movement towards the border, we should not fight against them, unless in case of a necessary self-defence if they attack first - and such orders concerning this decision were issued to units."
An order for the HQ of Group "Stryj" (delivered by phone) to withdraw all units behind the Hungarian border without waiting for forces of General Kazimierz Sosnkowski. It was a consequence of a personal decision taken by marschall Rydz-Smigly.
An order for Colonel Rudka in Stanislawow to deliver to General Dembinski the order of Marschall Rydz-Smigly, ordering him to carry out destructions in the Petroleum Basin before withdrawing to Hungary as well as to deliver an order of withdrawing to Hungary also to the commander of Polish 10th Motorized Cavalry Brigade, Colonel Stanislaw Maczek.
10:00 p.m.:
Confirmation of previous orders from 9:30 p.m. for Colonel Rudka in Stanislawow.
Ordering a liason pilot to deliver an order informing about the Soviet invasion and ordering him to withdraw to Hungary to General Kazimierz Sosnkowski (pilot took off on 18.09.1939 in the morning).
The "General Directive" of marschall Rydz-Smigly was enciphered and on 9:40 p.m. it was received by Lt.Col. Mieczyslaw Zaleski, who then transmitted it by radio stations.
At 10:00 p.m. the "General Directive" (which was already quoted above) was transmitted via radio:
Marschall Edward Rydz-Smigly wrote: "The Soviets had entered. I command to withdraw to Romania and Hungary along the shortest possible routes. Do not fight against the Bolsheviks, unless they attack first or try to disarm our units. The task of Warsaw and cities, which were to defend against the Germans - without changes. Cities to which the Bolsheviks will approach, should negotiate with them concerning the departure of garrisons to Romania or Hungary.
In the night from 17.09.1939 to 18.09.1939 and in the morning on 18.09.1939 the Polish Government and the Polish High Command (with Marschall Rydz-Smigly) crossed the Romanian Border.
This was one day after the Soviet Invasion and only DUE TO and BECAUSE OF the Soviet Invasion.
Why England and France didn't declare war on the USSR after September 17?
The best reasons were presented by the Soviet ambassadors themselves:
Soviet ambassador in London, Ivan Mayski, wrote in his diary on 17.09.1939:
Ivan Mayski wrote: "(...) What will be the response of England to our actions? Can England declare war on us? (...) Will England break diplomatic relations with us? I don't think so. Such a policy would overtax England's strength. Inversely, England will avoid everything, which could strengthen the connections between the USSR and Germany. Thus I expect a harsh protest note, a harsh speech of the Prime Minister in the Parliament, an anti-Soviet campaign launched by British press, but nothing more."
Also Soviet ambassador in Paris, Jakov Suric, sent such a message to Moscow on 19.09.1939:
Jakov Suric wrote: "(...) Yet now with some dose of certainty it can be said, that the French government is not drawing any 'conclusions' and will keep an anticipative position, trying to do everything to avoid provoking the USSR and to prevent the even greater Soviet-German rapprochement."
Other claims were just excuses, to justify the factual reasons of lack of declaration of war.
But in fact, behind that courtain of propaganda, soon after the Soviet Invasion Britain started - together with France - to plan a war against the USSR - but it was to be a surprise attack, and only then declaration of war would follow.
You can read about those British plans of invading the USSR in this book:
"Operation Pike: Britain Versus the Soviet Union 1939-1941" by Patrick R. Osborn:
http://books.google.pl/books?id=39Q6uCj ... &q&f=false
http://www.questia.com/library/book/ope ... osborn.jsp
One more thing - another reason why France and Britain was "quite happy" about the Soviet Invasion, was their concern about Romania. France and Britain were afraid that immediately after defeating Poland, Germans will invade and conquer Romania. And Romania had a lot of crude oil, as we know - which Britain and France didn't want to fall into German hands. That's why after the Soviet invasion, Britain and France hoped that maybe Soviet forces would "isolate" and "cut off" Romania from Germany, from German military forces. But those were stupid dreams - Romania joined Axis anyway and Germany quickly gained access to Romanian resources. Not mentioning that Germany and the USSR were allies and Germany was receiving large amounts of resources (including also food) from the USSR - as is commonly known, by the way -, practically until 22.06.1941.
Another thing is that Britain and France should have helped Poland to defend the "Romanian Bridgehead" by sending them supplies via Romania, and then maybe German advance would have been halted by Polish forces, before entering Romania. Britain and France simply abandoned and "crossed out" their ally too early - they "crossed out" their Polish ally before he was defeated, when he was still resisting the German invasion.
This was their mistake. And France paid for that mistake in 1940, Britain also.
It is also true, that Britain and France were not obliged to help Poland in case of Soviet invasion.
But as I wrote, this fact was rather one of "diplomatic excuses" than real reasons of not helping Poland against the Soviets. Real reasons were mentioned above:
1) Fear about the even greater strengthening of the Soviet-German alliance and co-operation.
2) Lack of real strength to fight against the USSR and Germany combined - these countries were much more powerful than France and Britain.
3) Concerns about the fate of Romania (what was Germany going to do with Romania after defeating Poland).
4) Poland was yet "crossed out" - it had already fulfilled its task - being a "cannon meat" for Germany, to win some time for Western Allies.
Re: About the Polish reaction to the Soviet Invasion in 1939
by mconrad
Other reasons for Britain and France not to declare war on the Soviet Union:
If Britain declared war, the USSR could promptly occupy the British sphere of influence in Persia, thus depriving the western allies of a major oil production region. (And get uncomfortably close to cutting the Suez Canal.)
For practical purposes, how could France's and Britain's armed forces effectively engage Soviet armed forces, and vice versa? There was no common border between these countries.
Foresight. Any well-informed and intelligent French or British leader and his advisors would surely be thinking, "How long can an alliance between Hitler's Germany and Stalin's USSR really last?" A nasty situation today, but sooner or later...
by Glyndower
Aid for Poland through Rumania belongs in the realm of fantasy. It first of all suposes that Rumania would be prepared to risk war with Germany by siding with the allies something Rumania had no intention of going. Secondly given the transportation links through Rumania to Poland a large scale supply operation would have been very difficult. I believe the railway line from Rumania to Kolomiya was only single track and easiy cut by the Germans and the roads were poor leading into eastern Poland. Thirdly why would the allies start shiping large ammounts of aid to Rumania when they thought Germany would overrun Poland within six months and any aid sent would be lost. Fourthly the guarantee to Poland had nothing to do with preserving Polish independence it was about the balance of power in Europe. Poland's role in allied strategic thinking was to tie up the Germans for a few months enabling the UK and France to prepare in the west for a long war.
I believe the railway line from Rumania to Kolomiya was only single track
Line Kolomiya - Chernivtsi was single track but had capacity of 18 pairs of trains per day.
and easiy cut by the Germans
How exactly would they cut it easy? Luftwaffe? It was also easy to repair.
Thirdly why would the allies start shiping large ammounts of aid
They already did - but depends what you consider as large ammounts.
Many ships with supplies were already enroute to Poland at the time of the Soviet invasion - supplies from France were being transported by "Rose Sciaffino", "Warszawa", "Oksywie", "Katowice", "Pulaski", "Victo" and at least 11 other ships. Supplies from Great Britain were being transported for example by "Clan Menzies", "Lassel", "Robur VIII" and "Lwow". As you can see many of these ships were Polish. But what did these ships transport?
For example "Robur VIII" was transporting British planes for Poland. "Oksywie" was transporting explosives from France (mainly picric acid - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picric_acid - up to 1000 tons). "Lwow" was transporting 326 tons of rubber, 97 tons of bullet shells, 4 artillery guns cal. 6 inches, 400 boxes of artillery ammo cal. 6 inches, 100 boxes of shells for cal. 6 inches ammo. "Lassel" was transporting 15 Hurricanes, 1 Spitfire, at least 7 (up to 36) Fairey Battles, 6,000 tons of bombs, 2,750,000 rounds of ammunition (probably artillery ammo), 112 Browning HMGs, 150 parachutes and some motor transporters (9 bomb tractors and 21 trailers among them). "Clan Menzies" was transporting at least 15 (up to 25) Fairey Battles, 5,000 Hotchkiss HMGs (Hotchkiss M1909 Benet-Mercie machine guns), 15,000,000 rounds of rifle / MG ammunition (.303 ammunition) and 500,000 anti-gas masks.
On 08.09.1939 French ambassador in Poland - general Faury - sent a message to France with Polish request for the most urgent supplies - this included 250 calibre 75mm guns, 100 calibre 105mm guns and 15 calibre 155mm guns.
The first French transport was to reach Romanian port in Galati very soon, because on 20.09.1939. This first transport was transporting 50 R-35 tanks, 150,000 rounds of artillery ammo, 60 artillery guns calibre 105mm (+ full equipment for 15 batteries), French fighter planes, military tractors, trucks, radio stations, picric acid and other war materials.
According to another source (Czeslaw Grzelak in his book "Kampania Polska 1939"; he quotes: PIA New York, Weinstein's archive, v. XVIII, c. 1, account of lieutenant colonel M. Zimnal - as his primary source) - this first French transport consisted of as many as 17 (!) ships (as you can see I mentioned only several ships with supplies from France above - I don't know what were the names of the remaining ones, if this information is true) and it was to reach the Romanian port in Galati not on 20.09.1939, but between 17 and 20.09.1939 (thus, not later than on 20.09.1939).
According to the same source this first transport was also carrying 20 French planes, considerable amount of artillery ammunition (probably calibre 105mm - for these 60 guns cal. 105mm) and also some TNT apart from picric acid.
No of these ships managed to reach Romanian ports before the Soviet Invasion of Poland. After Allies received information about the Soviet Invasion of Poland all of these transports were stopped and directed somehwere else.
So all transports were recalled on 18.09.1939, some of these supplies were delivered to Turkey.
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:29 am
The Rumanian Government signed an economic treat with Germany on March 23rd 1939. From then on it was half in Germany's pocket and it would not be long before it was fully in Germany's pocket.
On September 12 Ribbentrop demanded a number of things from Rumania. These were that it would not grant asylum to the Polish Government but would intern the Polish Government and that it would disarm and intern all Polish soldiers, and no passage for any war material to Poland.
Rumania knew Poland was doomed because it had knowledge of the Soviet German division of Eastern Europe; it was never going to annoy Germany. The British Minister in Rumania Reginald Hoare was told by the Rumanian President on September 12 about the agreement.
Taken from "The War Hitler Won – Nicholas Bethel" a very informative book.
The German air force operating from bases in Slovakia or central Poland could easily have cut a Railway line. Also road and rail traffic would have been shot to pieces as they had air supremacy. I believe they did a very efficient job of destroying road and rail communications in September. I did once know a Polish man who had been mobilised in Kolomyia and moved west by train. After a while they got of the train and were told to go home and he walked back as the line was cut. He never saw a German I remember him telling me.
Because of the state of semi mobilisation Poland was in prior to September it was heading for bankruptcy according to the Polish finance Minister Kwiatkowski. On April 26 he told Szembek that unless a British loan was forthcoming Poland was likely to become bankrupt.
On June 28 it was agreed to grant credits to Poland to purchase British military equipment but no cash loan. On July 1 it was decided to grant 8m in military credits. Also on July 1 the head of the Polish military mission to Britain Rayski reported that no progress was being made on the purchase of munitions. It seems he could not get an answer from the British on something as simple as the calibre of their artillery. The British were apparently hoping the Poles would get aid from the French or the Soviets. The French were better disposed towards Poland on the question of aid. Aid for Poland was not a British priority and any aid was going to have to fit in with British military needs.
From Soviet and East European Studies – Poland and the Eastern Front
The British seem to have been hoping to tie a cash loan to Poland to economic concessions from Poland to Britain. I presume that the aid on the ships was either paid for by Poland's rapidly shrinking currency reserves or the British had allowed the credits they were giving Poland to be used. I have no idea of what the French were supplying. With Britain stalling on aid, Poland heading for bankruptcy and Rumania frightened to offend Germany it was looking very dark indeed for the Poles on the question of aid.
I often muse on what would have happened if Hitler had just kept up pressure on Poland by maybe sealing the borders. Poland was almost totally dependent on Gdynia and Danzig. The Germans could probably have made importing and exporting through Danzig problematical leaving Gdynia. Threatening to close the Polish Corridor would probably have forced the Poles to stay semi mobilised and as we now know that would have brought about the bankruptcy of Poland. They may then have made the concessions Hitler wanted and what would have happened next?
by tobysr
Hi all, I'm new to all this, but I have a great interest in this subject. I was wondering if this is the right forum to ask what Polish regiments and corps were sent to the eastern front to counter the Russian invasion as Poland had a great commitment to the western front.


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