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Społeczeństwo Teoria mediów
The influence of advertising on human being's mentality and thinking
Each era was marked with events, which considerably threatened raising a young person, who was brought up in a particular culture. These days are characterized by the influence of mass media, and especially advertising, which may contribute itself to the improvement of the society by comforting and inspiring people as well as by motivating them into actions to their benefit and to the benefit of others. However, it may become also a tool, which is not helpful and pedagogical, but destructive to the young person's personality. The most common means of influencing the personality of an individual as well as of the whole community are: violence, crime, pornography (pronophony and pornovision), harmful messages to the subconsciousness, visual domination, and propaganda (ideological and political).[1]
When analyzing the functions of the media, one can distinguish four basic needs of the recipients regarding the mass media. Above all, they: "1. are a form of escape, at least for a moment, from dullness and monotony of life; 2. fill the void, since fictional characters keep us company and they help to establish relations with other people by providing the topics for discussion; 3. are the source of information on current events, which are interesting for the recipient (media as a window on the world); and 4. function as symbolic indicators of certain values, due to which an individual accomplishes the process of self-identification and identification with a particular social and cultural group".[2] Advertising works in a very similar way since it uses these mechanisms to its own benefit although its basic task is to create and make the potential customer realize of the existence of a given product or service.
A human being does not live alone, but among other people, by creating society, which, in turn, produces their own culture. According to John Paul II culture "is this notion, through which man, as a human being, can «be» man even more fully [..]. Man and only man is an originator and the creator of culture, man and only man expresses himself in culture and he confirms himself there as well".[3]
Culture is a specific way of human being's existence and life. It creates a group of connections between people living within each community by determining the interpersonal and social character of human existence. The subject and the creator of the culture is a human being, who can find their own expression and balance in it.[4] Advertising may harm the tradition and the local culture values. It is necessary to remember about the "cultural harm done to these countries and their inhabitants by advertisements, whose contents and methods reflect the values dominating among the developed societies and, at the same time, they come into a conflict with healthy and traditional values of the local cultures".[5] Undoubtedly, these countries and their inhabitants "should have the possibility of an active, independent, and responsible participation in the process of reception of the mass medium, because it influences their conditions of life in a multidimensional way".[6] There is also a great threat that the place of artistic and moral values may be occupied superficiality, vulgarity, and morally unacceptable practices. Such a situation appears especially in the place where the struggle between the competitors is the main indicator of the broadcasted advertisements and when money directs all the production. Therefore, it results in ignoring the educative and social needs of the people belonging to certain categories of recipients, such as children,[7] seniors,[8] the poor. Advertising has presented certain social groups in a dishonourable way many times so far. The case concerns mainly women, who are treated as objects, as a tool to gain one's goals:[9] "How many times have women been treated not as people of an inalienable dignity, but as objects, who are to quench one's lust for satisfaction or power? How many times has the woman's role as a wife and mother been disdained or even ridiculed? How many times has the woman's role in a workplace and in a professional life been presented as a parody of man's role ignoring the specific characteristics of female intuition, her empathy, and ability to understand, which are so important for the «civilization of love»".[10]
Advertising may influence culture positively. Profits, gained due to its existence, can support production of programmes of a high quality – not only intellectual, but also aesthetic and moral. Such a situation contributes indirectly to the development of the society only when advertising is recognized as an artistic element, which builds and inspires to behave in a morally good manner. It benefits not only the society as a whole, but, most of all, each individual separately – by building one family. At the same time, advertising may "make life more enjoyable for example by means of a typical sense of humour, good taste, and an entertaining style. Some advertisements are masterpieces of popular art, full of unique ideas and exceptional charm".[11] The positive contribution of advertising can be seen in those places where it influences positively on shaping the moral and religious life both in the case of a young and the older human beings. Due to providing religious contents, which call on to tolerance, sympathy, altruism, and compassion towards those who need it, attitudes helping to shape, bring up, and develop are raised in a human being. Thus, the attitude towards each man is established. That is why, the presence of Church in mass media is nowadays so urgent. The same thing applies to its presence in advertising. Especially, when it may be an indispensable element of the strategy to reach those who have got lost, hide, or do not believe at all. When undertaking such steps, "bishops should seek cooperation with church specialists acting in that field, including the international and national film, radio, television, and press organizations".[12] Mass media "may and should be tools in the Church's service of re-evangelization and a new evangelization of the present-day world".[13] Despite many opinions in this sphere, which Church has to face, one should not be discouraged, but "be able to observe carefully the development of modern advertising techniques and use them appropriately to spread the evangelical address in a way reflecting the modern man's expectations".[14]
However, advertising may evoke completely different attitudes. It especially concerns these situations, where instead of moral principles, man is corrupted by envy, greed, and unhealthy competition. The advertisements' authors shock with their perversion, vulgarity, and disgust on purpose by referring to the unhealthy and dishonourable contents for a human being. Most of all, it refers to pornography, which has recently spread on a wide scale and which has been causing extensive social problems, especially due to the fact that it is promoted by such media as: "books, magazines, tape recordings, cinema, theatre, television, video cassettes, newspaper advertisements, and the television messages, which often present scenes of violence and sexual permissiveness, which are very close to pornography and morally unacceptable".[15] Such a morally corrupting practice "used to be limited only to the rich countries, nowadays, however, due to the mass media, it is beginning to challenge the moral values of the developing countries".[16]
The oldest advertisement of a brothel was found in the ruins of Pompeii. It was the "bas-reliefs of the «three sisters' house»…".[17] Pornography is by no means a new problem. Understanding this phenomenon must be done with regard to moral values resulting from dignity and sacredness of a human being. Only then it is possible to perceive other aspects, such as: pedagogical, social, or legal one etc. The phenomenon of pornography in the mass media is "not only presenting shamelessness in public, but it is a planned and methodical propaganda resulting in deformation of human awareness in the direction of ridding of shame and the attitude of moral modesty as something, which is allegedly not socially acceptable anymore. The deception of such motivation easily comes to light: a brutal attack on moral values is to be used as an argument that these values are allegedly outdated".[18] It is characteristic that there is not any universal definition of pornography. We can speak about a phenomenon and its consequences, but we are not able to reduce them to one single definition since it would mean diminishing a multilayered phenomenon together with its social consequences into rules which would not get to the heart of the matter. The multitude of trials to define pornography causes much confusion and the attitude that for some people «something» is already pornography, and for others it is still not.
Pornography influences human subconsciousness and imagination in a harmful way. Contact with non-existing and triggered-by-imagination reality with the erotic and strongly emotionally charged contents particularly distorts children and young people's psyche. It harms them while their point of view on the world, sexual life, love, and marriage is being created. Thus, it violates "the dignity of those who indulge in it (actors, sellers, audience) because they become the object of primitive pleasure and prohibited profit for others".[19] In such a case, a body is reduced to an object of achieving the aim and, hence, the human freedom is violated and man himself is reduced only to corporeality, which is to arouse unbridled lust. The pedagogical task is "the necessity to reconstruct the picture of human love, to make people aware that love depends on the willingness and readiness to give good to the other person and it has to take into the account this good above all other things".[20]
Specific problems are raised by advertisements referring to the religious and moral issues. In the first case, the most reprehensible are those "which sometimes adopt the religious motifs or use the images and characters from the religious sphere in order to sell particular products".[21] It is particularly unacceptable when the religious symbols are treated as a «cheap» sales trick to attract customers to one's product (service) by ridiculing the symbol or approaching it in a disrespectful manner.[22]
In the second case, "it happens that products, attitudes and behaviour patterns at variance with moral principles are advertised and promoted. The example of that may be the advertisement of contraceptives and abortion pills as well as products harming health, advertising campaigns in favour of effective birth control supported by governments, so called «safe sex», and other similar practices".[23] Advertising regarded by the law as illegal also must be taken into the account. In such a case, it is the law[24] that guards the order and takes care that the sanctions are executed for broadcasting the advertisements of: alcohol,[25] tobacco products (on television, radio, children and young people's magazines),[26] medications available only on doctor's prescription,[27] some number lotteries, and pools.[28]
Advertising influences human mentality and thinking. The first rule that was incorporated into the advertising technique relates to various kinds of people's needs developed due to cultural factors and to hidden desires. The second principle is to create irrational, i.e. incomprehensible or senseless situations. The point is so that the customer felt unjustifiable fondness towards a given product, which as a matter of fact, was not better than the other analogous products of different companies. Therefore, the point is to create a feeling in the recipient's mind that this very product is better than the others. In this case a very imported role can be attributed to visual symbols. Everything must be happening according to a settled scheme: to suggest it in such a way that the recipient should feel fondness towards this product and buy it. As time went by, production of advertisements adopted such a form that the potential buyers themselves are presented in an advertisement, however in an idealized form, in compliance with their dreams as people, who are happy with their life, cheerful, rich, without problems. As a result, a myth of a happy family was created /here, an example of the advertisement of the Uncle Ben's rice can be cited, where the whole family, smiling and joyful, welcome their son, who is coming back home after a long separation, and they offer him rice. The recipient is to be persuaded that all he needs to be happy is… rice/, a myth of a carefree, light-hearted person who has no serious troubles, who is joyful and comfortable with his fate. «This is your world » – says the advertisement of a Renault 19 model. The feeling of safety in a difficult and complex modern world is promised by the following advertisement of a bank: «PKO – with you throughout your life ».
In the book Anatomia telewizji w USA (Anatomy of Television in the US) by Jacek Fuksiewicz, the author writes: "A cigarette or a Coke gives not only a nice sensation of taste, but they are also obligatory accessories of social life, which guarantee acceptance among friends. A particular kind of soap, toothpaste, deodorant, or face cream – increases the temperature of feelings of the opposite sex partner, who might have been showing some symptoms of reluctance in the first part of the film. A car inspires respect among other people who are looking with admiration at the owner – it also gives the sense of power on the road. The whole family's underwear, whiter than ever, thanks to the usage of washing powder of a particular kind, arouses admiration and recognition among the neighbours, who are now hurrying to the shop to buy it. Particular food products on the table evoke happiness and appreciation from the husband and children's part".[29]
Advertisements, based on these schemes and bombarding the viewers with them constantly day by day, are not restricted only to persuade effectively about the perfection of a given product. "Women are buying a promise – said one of the executives of the advertising agency in Milwaukee. – The cosmetic manufacturers are not selling lanolin, they are selling hope (…) We no longer buy oranges, we buy vitality. We do not buy just an auto, we buy prestige".[30]
A similar manipulation of the masses can be found in political action. Our nation experienced it for the last 40-50 years.
It is visible that a human being has becoming more and more addicted to mass media. The law of demand and offer, which is taking advantage of continuous yearning for taking, rooted in every person, is a superior power. In today's world, only what the viewer is interested in matters. And again, it all can be brought down to a simple scheme: masses are demanding, we are giving them what they want. Advantages: masses have what they want although they are manipulated quite frequently; the mass media receive money in such a way, which helps them to produce programmes, which, in turn, will be watched by people – a closed circle. Creating such susceptibility to particular images can, as a result, increase susceptibility to any human suggestions in general, and therefore, the broadcaster has considerably less problems with imposing given opinions and ideas upon large communities than in the case when the susceptibility to other influences is smaller. In such a way the spirit of the nation is diminishing and is being replaced with a mixture of unfamiliar products. In such a way, thinking, the way of reaching the life truths, and human mentality are changing.
[1] Por. A. Lepa, Pedagogika mass mediów, Łódź 1998, ss. 151-173.
[2] A. Lubecka, dz. cyt., s. 55.
[3] A. Szostek, Człowiek i kultura w ujęciu Jana Pawła II, Łódzkie Studia Teologiczne, 1997, t. 6, s. 157.
[4] Por. Jan Paweł II, Orędzie Jana Pawła II na Światowy Dzień Środków Społecznego Przekazu, Środki Społecznego przekazu pomostem między wiarą i kulturą, L'Osservatore Romano 5 (1984), s. 4.
[5] ER, nr 12; cyt. za: AEN, nr 16.
[6] AEN, nr 16.
[7] Por. Jan Paweł II, Orędzie papieskie na XIX Światowy Dzień Środków Społecznego Przekazu, Środki przekazu społecznego w służbie chrześcijańskiej promocji młodzieży, L'Osservatore Romano 4-5 (1985), s. 9.
[8] Por. Papieska Komisja Środków Społecznego Przekazu, Środki przekazu społecznego a problemy ludzi starych, L'Osservatore Romano 5 (1982), ss. 27-28.
[9] Por. B. Czerska, Reklama jest kobietą, AIDA 11 (1996), ss. 5-7; D. Doliński, Głupie, naiwne i czasami długonogie, AIDA 11 (1996), ss. 10-12; D. Köppl, Kobiety aseksualne?, AIDA 11 (1996), ss. 13-15; B. Duda, Kobieta – jaka jest naprawdę, AIDA 12 (1997), ss. 40-41; D. Doliński, Płeć produktu – hipoteza dopasowana, AIDA 5 (1997), ss. 36-38; T. Piss, Seksu naszego powszedniego…, AIDA 3 (1994), ss. 44-45; Cz. Curyło, O kobietach w reklamie TV, Aktualności telewizyjne, 1 (1999), ss. 84-88.
[10] Jan Paweł II, Orędzie Jana Pawła II na Światowy Dzień Środków Społecznego Przekazu 1996 r., Współczesne środki przekazu w służbie postępu kobiety w społeczeństwie, L'Osservatore Romano, 6 (1996), s. 7.
[11] ER, nr 7.
[12] AEN, nr 21.
[14] ER, nr 8; cyt. za: Paweł VI, Orędzie na Światowy Dzień Środków Społecznego Przekazu, L'Osservatore Romano, 13 maja 1977, nr 2.
[15] Papieska Rada ds. środków Społecznego Przekazu, Pornografia i przemoc w środkach społecznego przekazu: odpowiedź duszpasterska, Wiadomości diecezjalne, Katowice, Rok 58, nr 6 (1990), nr 5, s. 194.
[16] ER, nr 13; cyt. za: Papieska Rada ds. środków Społecznego Przekazu, Pornografia i przemoc w środkach społecznego przekazu: odpowiedź duszpasterska, Wiadomości diecezjalne, Katowice, Rok 58, nr 6 (1990), nr 6, s. 194.
[17] Z. Bajka, Krótka historia reklamy…, dz. cyt., s. 6.
[18] J. Bajda, Zafałszowanie obrazu człowieka, Ethos, Rok 6 (1993) nr 4 (24), s. 73.
[19] KKK, nr 2354.
[20] T. Jakubowski, Wychowanie do miłości, Zagrożenia w dziedzinie płciowości – pornografia, Katecheta, 7-8 (1999), s. 42.
[21] ER, 13.
[22] Por. K. Oparski, Reklama potępiona, AIDA 2 (1999), s. 15.
[23] ER, nr 13.
[24] Por. B. Piwowar, Ograniczenia prawne reklamy w Polsce (cz. I), AIDA 2 (1995), ss. 33-36; B. Piwowar, Ograniczenia prawne reklamy w Polsce (cz. II), AIDA 3 (1995), ss. 32-34; E. Nowińska, Reklama radiowa w świetle prawa, AIDA 9 (1996), ss. 15-16; T. Goban-Klas, Amerykański kodeks etyki w działalności public relations, AIDA 11 (1996), ss. 37-38; T. Gryżewski, Etyka w działaniach RP, AIDA 11 (1996), s. 38; M. Pączkowski (oprac.), Reklama a etyka w europejskiej TV, AIDA 4 (1998), s. 11.
[25] Por. W. Olejniczak, W. Walczak, G. Zalejko, Inna reklama innego piwa, AIDA 10 (1996), ss. 18-20; R. Dybalska, Idealny odbiorca używek, AIDA 1 (1998), ss. 12-14; B. Prajsner, Reklama z pianką, AIDA 5 (1998), ss. 6-8; M. Pączkowski (oprac.), Johnie Walkera pić wypada? AIDA 5 (1998), s. 12; M. Pączkowski (oprac.), Trzy razy o wódce w Czechach, AIDA 5 (1998), ss. 12-13; E. Nowińska, Reklama napojów bezalkoholowych, AIDA 5 (1998), ss. 14-16; E. Nowińska, A co z napojami alkoholowymi? AIDA 5 (1998), ss. 16-17; P. Fouquet, M. de Borde, Alkoholografie – wizerunki reklamowe, AIDA 5 (1998), ss. 44-45; D. Doliński, Ostrzeżenia na etykietach alkoholu są mało skuteczne, AIDA 9 (1998), ss. 30-31.
[26] Por. K. Uściński, Papierosy – promocja bez reputacji, AIDA 1 (1998), ss. 4-7; N. Skałecka, K. Oparski, Papierosowa wolność pełna dymu i iluzji, AIDA 1 (1998), s. 7; K. Gusztyła, R. K. Ohme, Jak stworzyć plakat antynikotynowy, AIDA 1 (1998), ss. 8-10; M. Pączkowski (oprac.), Świat nie kocha palaczy, AIDA, 1 (1998), s. 11; R. Dybalska, Idealny odbiorca używek, AIDA 1 (1998), ss. 12-14.
[27] J. Jezioro, Ograniczenia prawne reklamy farmaceutyków, AIDA, 6 (1995), ss. 15-17.
[28] Por. A. Karpowicz, Jak reklamować się zgodnie z prawem, Warszawa 1997, ss. 11-21.
[29] J. Fuksiewicz, Anatomia telewizji w USA, Warszawa 1973, s. 76.
[30] Tamże.
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On May 19, 2015, the United States Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) issued a proposed order exempting certain categories of Southwest Power Pool, Inc. (SPP) electric energy transactions from all but the antifraud and anti-manipulation provisions of the Commodity Exchange Act (CEA) (the Proposed Exemption). In the preamble to the Proposed Exemption, CFTC articulates for the first time its belief that such exemptions do not eviscerate private rights of action available to third parties under the CEA, stating that it "did not intend to create such a limitation," and believes that such exemptions do not prevent private claims for fraud or manipulation under the CEA. 80 Fed. Reg. 29490 (May 19, 2015).1 CFTC's statement followed on the heels of a decision of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas, in Aspire Commodities, LP, et al. v. GDF SUEZ Energy North America, Inc., et al., Case No. 4:14-cv-01111 (S.D. Tex. April 22, 2014).
On Feb. 3, 2015, the Aspire Court had found that CFTC had exempted "energy transactions" (including financial transmission rights, forward capacity transactions, reserve or regulation transactions) conducted in certain Independent System Operators (ISOs) and Regional Transmission Organizations (RTOs)2 from all provisions of the CEA, except CFTC's general antifraud and anti-manipulation authority, as well as scienter-based prohibitions. See Order Granting Motion to Dismiss, Aspire Dkt. No. 28 at 13 (citing CFTC Final Order regarding energy transactions, 78 Fed. Reg. 19880). The transactions at issue in Aspire were conducted in ERCOT, one of the covered RTO/ISOs. Thus, while such transactions remained subject to the previously-specified CFTC authority, the Court found that they were not subject to the CEA provision that permitted private rights of action for violations of the CEA. Thus, the Court granted the Defendants' motion to dismiss, and dismissed the claims under Rule 12(b)(6). Aspire has appealed the dismissal to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, and oral argument was held Jan. 8, 2016. The appeal is under consideration.
On Feb. 25, 2016, CFTC's Energy and Environmental Markets Advisory Committee (EEMAC) held a public meeting to address the SPP Proposed Exemption and, specifically, CFTC's preamble language regarding private rights of action (among other topics).3 The EEMAC heard remarks from several industry participants and advisors, all of whom testified to significant concerns related to the "Private Right of Action" language in the preamble. Such issues included the possibility of inconsistent or duplicative treatment of established FERC, CFTC, and industry policy among the 400 judges in nearly 100 judicial districts; the ability of private plaintiffs to do an "end-around" such policy, all while the relevant regulatory bodies were not party to the proceedings; the fact that sound, business-based industry judgment regarding operations and capacity could be second-guessed by aggrieved market participants; the fact that the power industry already has in place robust and efficient dispute resolution and enforcement forums; the fact that the position in the preamble was a "new" position that CFTC had not previously taken, and an attempt to do so without proper notice to the public; and the significant costs of defending third-party lawsuits, all of which would be borne by the end users and consumers, in the form of higher power costs. In closing, CFTC Chairman Timothy G. Massad thanked the participants for their comments, noting that CFTC would strive to balance all possible interests. He noted further that many of the issues raised – primarily, the possibility that federal courts would apply inconsistent analyses to agency and industry rules, and that the affected agencies would have no opportunity to participate in such private actions – are issues with which CFTC (and other agencies) must and do always deal.
1 The text of the Proposed Exemption may be found here.
2 The covered ISOs and RTOs are the California Independent System Operator Corporation, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, Inc., ISO New England, Inc., Midwest Independent Transmission System Operator, New York Independent System Operator, and PJM Interconnection, LLC.
3 Links to the various statements and presentations during the meeting may be found here.


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Queen + P Rodgers played show case gig in Elstree Studio
YourValentine
04.09.2008 11:36 Queen and Paul Rodgers played a short concert to 50 international music journalists in the London Elstree Film Studio on September 2nd
The set list was
Cosmos Rockin'
Thanks to wilki for sending the link
04.09.2008 17:04 If that set list is correct, it's odd isn't it? Why so little new stuff? Doesn't seem worth it for 2 new numbers.
Very strange IMHO.
Oberon wrote: If that set list is correct, it's odd isn't it? Why so little new stuff? Doesn't seem worth it for 2 new numbers. Very strange IMHO.
Oops. isn't shooting star a PR / Free number? Even more pointless exercise then.
Richard Orchard
04.09.2008 20:39 Let me guess "Paul Rogder's was Freddie's favourite singer... He used to see him all the time."
I think this sort of comment is "spin". The same with "John supports everything we do"....
Voice of Reason 2018
05.09.2008 05:50 The less new stuff the better I say!
its_a_hard_life 26994
05.09.2008 05:54 Woo! I wish I was there. Dammnit.
Cwazy little thing
YourValentine wrote: Queen and Paul Rodgers played a short concert to 50 international music journalists in the London Elstree Film Studio on September 2nd The set list was Fat Bottomed Girls Another One Bites The Dust Hammer To Fall I Want It All I Want To Break Free A Kind Of Magic Shooting Star Cosmos Rockin' source: link Thanks to wilki for sending the link
If the set list is accurate then my expectations for the set on the tour have been lowered slightly. With the exception of AOBTD, Shooting Star, Cosmos and IWIA I hoped/expected some or all of those others to be dropped this time round in favour of new material/older stuff which could be brilliant to reintroduce.
Daveboy35
05.09.2008 06:51 Whose to say that they won't play any other older songs or new songs from cosmos rocks that to me is a rehearsal set and nothing more. They could for all we know drop IWIA, AKOM, AOBTD etc we don't know for sure, i know and roger stated this in the front row interview that people who go to the shows will expect to hear the hits so they have to be included.
I'll think i'll wait until the 12th sept or possibly first few shows before i decide whether or not to grumble about it, on a postive note shooting star was there so that's good.
Holly2003
Voice of Reason 2008 wrote: The less new stuff the better I say!
I agree. Let's have less new, fresh material that has been written specifically for Paul to sing and instead let's hear lots more of TYMD and WWRY done karaoke style.
Holly2003 wrote:
I agree. Let's have less new, fresh material that has been written specifically for Paul to sing and instead let's hear lots more of TYMD and WWRY done karaoke style. Better still, let's all just go to the stageshow where we'll never hear anything new at all!
05.09.2008 09:09 i want to see them again, i want to hear great old things. also, would be good if they put 2 new songs, they promote album after all. maybe it's not enough for promoting but i think that would be best way. would be fantastic if they put some old songs that they didn't perform, like i'm going slightly mad, i think paul could sing it, innuendo too...
05.09.2008 09:18 They should play the whole album on tour and establish themselves as a "new" group producing new material. Of course they need to play a few older numbers too but I would drop songs like Bo Rap, AOBTD plus any further tributes to Fred.
Benn
05.09.2008 09:52 Holly2003,
Couldn't agree with you more. Whilst the BoRhap tribute thing was great as an acknowledgement to Freddie, I honestly don't see it being interesting this time around. As much as I'd like to see it taken out of the set, there's no way it'll happen - it's too big a millstone around their necks for it to go.
AKOM was horrible on the tour and the bluesy kick off to HTF (although being a nice surprise at Brian's shows) just didn't work either. My suggestion would be to get more of the early Queen material out there - stuff that's not so familiar to newer fans, but works incredibly well live. Paul singing White Queen would be INCREDIBLE!
There's all sorts of stuff they can oull out to make this exciting, but it's just NOT going to happen.
PieterMC
05.09.2008 10:19 There is going to be a huge amount of bitching once this tour starts. Face facts..... there will be LESS old Queen songs played on this tour than the last. They are going to play new stuff. The setlist is also not aimed at die hard fans, but Joe Public.
onevsion
Shooting star. Nice! Like that song.
Joe Public
PieterMC wrote: There is going to be a huge amount of bitching once this tour starts. Face facts..... there will be LESS old Queen songs played on this tour than the last. They are going to play new stuff. The setlist is also not aimed at die hard fans, but Joe Public.
djcamper
05.09.2008 12:04 I wish they rehearse "Hello Mary Lou, Goodbye Heart".
inu-liger
djcamper wrote: I wish they rehearse "Hello Mary Lou, Goodbye Heart".
That would be nice, to have a classics R'n'R medley during the tour :-)
I doubt it would happen, but you never know.
(After all, they DO pull some nice surprises, like "Red House" - only done at the Vancouver gig two years ago, which I was at! Though I'll admit I never heard the song ever before that...)
GiantSpider
06.09.2008 09:52 Shooting Star though. Nice.
Pim Derks
I wish they'd do the whole album in the first half of the show - then in the 2nd half an hour of the biggest Queen/Paul Rodgers hits.
Set 1: Cosmos Rocks
-- intermission --
-- encore 1 --
Tie Your Mother Down
All Right Now
WWRY
WATC
timantt1
06.09.2008 20:15 Let's face it, when they start to play new songs (cosmos rocks stuff) people start to move towards toilets or bar desk to order more beer
07.09.2008 04:17 Wow, what a surprise. The new "Queen" playing nothing more than old Queen songs. It's a good thing my expectations were already set at the bottom, or this might have surprised me...
Let's face it, songs played at a public rehearsal a week before the first show ARE going to be played in the shows. Anyone expecting these songs to be dropped must be out of his mind.
timantt1 wrote: Let's face it, when they start to play new songs (cosmos rocks stuff) people start to move towards toilets or bar desk to order more beer
What sad people they must be.
kingogre
Tero wrote: Wow, what a surprise. The new "Queen" playing nothing more than old Queen songs. It's a good thing my expectations were already set at the bottom, or this might have surprised me... Let's face it, songs played at a public rehearsal a week before the first show ARE going to be played in the shows. Anyone expecting these songs to be dropped must be out of his mind.
Actually not at all. Why hold a try-out of songs they are sure to play? Might just be that they were trying out songs they were uncertain about. Many bands do this.I might be wrong though, but it is far rom certain at least.
kingogre wrote: Actually not at all. Why hold a try-out of songs they are sure to play? Might just be that they were trying out songs they were uncertain about. Many bands do this.I might be wrong though, but it is far rom certain at least.
It's not a "try-out". It's the final days of the rehearsals before the tour, and the only date open to outsiders. This is the "finished" product they have come up with.
They are NOT going to spend the last week of rehearsals by re-learning to play songs they aren't going to play on tour, and they are not going to perform unrehearsed songs to the press.
Young bands with fresh catalogue (recorded less than 20 years earlier :P ) might be able to play other songs with minimal effort, but 60 year old pensioners are struggling to remember the actual songs of the tour, let alone a bunch of others.
You really are clutching at straws here by not admitting this to yourself.
07.09.2008 09:48 Was this a rehearsal or were they trying to stir up media interest for the album and tour? Do bands usually rehearse new material in front of lots of journalists when there's a good chance they'll mess up? If they are just reminding journalists that they exist, better to stick with tried and trusted material maybe? Having said that, I expect most or all of these songs to appear on the tour. Let's hope they also do most of the new album live too though. It would alos be nice to hear Paul do 46664 etc but it's not likely.
07.09.2008 10:06 I think we've all heard what the band sounds like unrehearsed (at the 46664 events), so it's pretty obvious they have to play the rehearsed songs to make a professional impression on any journalists.
It's not just their brand new material we're talking about. They will make a mess of any old number as well, and the only way around that is to rehearse and rehearse again... That is not something you will do unless you plan to play those same songs in actual concerts as well.
And this is what other artists do as well:
They invite people for the final rehearsals, not for special one-off concerts with unique setlists.
Now, unless "Queen" actually has a rolling setlist this time, you can expect these numbers to appear in every single concert. I know Brian apparently promised to play most of the new album in a Spanish interview, but he doesn't seem very reliable anymore.
AlexRocks
07.09.2008 11:09 There's always the opportunity to do something different for a new project down the road after this one...but yes...they should defintely play a bunch of new songs on this tour for crying out loud. As in five per show and then switch some of those around to cover more songs than that off of "The Cosmos Rocks". An artist should never tour for a new l.p. and not play a good number of songs off of it.
JoxerTheDeityPirate
have these heathens never heard of a hip-flask?
08.09.2008 08:35 Actually lots of artists do try-outs to see crowd reactions of some songs. But then again who knows... My point is that it is certianly not so sure as you think. There might be lots of reasons for doing a one-off like this. Dont think this was the final product though, seems to be a very odd general rehearsal if it was.
I thought TSMGO was crap last time but at the Mandela concert it was the highlight. Paul seems to be a mot more comfortable with the Queen-material this time so Im not counting anything out until Ive hear it.
And about 60 year old musicians... They know their stuff, they have been playing it professionaly for 30 years now.

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Q: C++ How to define static member, which class has private constructor? I'm trying to mimic Java enum in C++, so I created code that look like this (of course I removed anything that's not related to my question):
MyEnum.hpp
MyEnum
{
public:
    class Value1;
    class Value2;

    static Value1 VALUE1;
    static Value2 VALUE2;

private:
    MyEnum(std::string name);
};

class MyEnum::Value1 public MyEnum
{
private:
    Value1();
};

class MyEnum::Value2: public MyEnum
{
private:
    Value2();
};

I made the costructors private, so that the only instance of enum values are static members of BaseEnum. How to define them?
MyEnum.cpp
MyEnum::Value1 VALUE1=MyEnum::Value1();

This gives me
error: calling a private constructor of class 'MyEnum::Value1'

EDIT:
That was too simple. I've just forgotten to add MyEnym:: to the values. One of many small every day problems I encounter when coming back to C++ from Java. Also, in the code from my question, I forgot to add friend declaration, which was in my original code. Thanks for your answers.

A: Assuming you don't use C++11 to do it, here's the solution - make classes friends to each other, so that Enum class can instantiate subclasses, and subclasses can call base class constructor, I also added missing parts to make the code compilable:
class MyEnum
{
public:
    class Value1;
    class Value2;

    friend class Value1;
    friend class Value2;

    static Value1 VALUE1;
    static Value2 VALUE2;

private:
    MyEnum(std::string name) {}
};

class MyEnum::Value1 : public MyEnum
{
    friend class MyEnum;
private:
    Value1() : MyEnum("VALUE1") {}
};

class MyEnum::Value2 : public MyEnum
{
    friend class MyEnum;
private:
    Value2() : MyEnum("VALUE2") {}
};

MyEnum::Value1 MyEnum::VALUE1;
MyEnum::Value2 MyEnum::VALUE2;

int main()
{
    // Use statuc enum value
    MyEnum::Value1 &someValue = MyEnum::VALUE1;

    return 0;
}

A: First of all to answer your question: the correct text in
MyEnum.cpp

is:
MyEnum::Value1 MyEnum::VALUE1;

But this still won't work, because you're not automatically a friend of your parent. So also add
friend class MyEnum;

in the declaration of class MyEnum::Value1

A: Declaring something as private implies that only the class members itself and friends have access to it, not its base class, nor its children. Therefore, by declaring the constructors private, you prevent instantiation from anywhere but the class and its friends.
If you really want MyEnum to access the private members of its children you have to define it as a friend within each of them:
friend class MyEnum;

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