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M:I Rogue Nation's attempted 'fan service'
Steven Hill as Dan Briggs in a first-season episode of Mission: Impossible. The photo he's looking at is of M:I creator Bruce Geller.
During the scripting of 2015's Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation, the filmmakers considered using the character of Dan Briggs, leader of the Impossible Missions Force in the first season of the M:I television series.
The source of the information: Christopher McQuarrie, the film's writer-director himself.
Background: Steven Hill played Briggs in the 1966-67 season of the show. But he was dismissed and Peter Graves came aboard as Jim Phelps for the rest of the series.
McQuarrie relayed the following in a Jan. 12 tweet:
Fun fact: Dan Briggs was in early drafts of Rogue Nation as a long-lost IMF agent.
This concept, like most of our attempts at fan service, collapsed quickly under it's own weight.
Vague remnants of Dan's story informed a character that ultimately evolved into Ilsa Faust.
McQuarrie's tweet was in response to a fan post on Twitter.
Isla Faust was the character played by Rebecca Ferguson. Both character and actress returned in 2018's Mission: Impossible-Fallout.
McQuarrie currently is in preparation for two more M:I films that will be filmed back to back. They will be released in 2021 and 2022.
Filed under: The Other Spies | Tagged: Christopher McQuarrie, Mission: Impossible, Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation, Mission: Impossible-Fallout, Rebecca Ferguson, Steven Hill |	Leave a comment »
RE-POST: Why Bond 25 didn't economize
Daniel Craig in Skyfall
Updated from an April 3 post.
NEW INTRODUCTION: This past week, The Hollywood Reporter had a feature story about No Time to Die cast members Lashana Lynch and Ana de Armas that had a passing reference that the film's budget was $250 million.
On Nov. 9, the Daily Mail had a story with a passing reference that the budget was 200 million British pounds ($257 million or so, depending on the conversion rate).
Regular readers of this blog were probably not surprised. In April, the blog had a post about why it was not likely the 25th James Bond film didn't do much economizing.
Since that post was published, it became public knowledge that writer-actress Phoebe Waller-Bridge also worked on the movie's script. Her reported fee (via The Hollywood Reporter) was $2 million. Thus, there's even more evidence that spending on the movie continued on the high side.
Over the past few days, other outlets have picked up on the $250 million budget figure for No Time to Die. SPECTRE had a $245 million figure (after tax breaks, product placement and other incentives were factored in).
What follows in the text of the blog's original post on the subject.
ORIGINAL APRIL POST: Bond 25 production got underway last week with some filming in Norway. There's a lot we don't know (including a title). But there are some signs that the film isn't traveling in Economy Class.
Delays in production: Eon Productions began renting space at Pinewood Studios last year. But filming there has been delayed at least five months.
Eon couldn't just give up that space. Demand for space at Pinewood is high. So that's a few months without any footage actually being shot. That makes it harder to economize.
An expensive script doctor: Scott Z. Burns recently spent four weeks working on Bond 25's script. He's a well-regarded scribe and he's moving into directing. His services are in demand. It's likely his Bond 25 services didn't come cheap. (UPDATE: Burns's involvement was confirmed in late April at the "reveal" event in Jamaica.)
The star may have gotten a raise: Variety last year reported that Daniel Craig will receive $25 million for his fifth 007 film. The truth is known to Craig, Eon boss Barbara Broccoli, Craig's agent and the various studios backing Bond 25. Still, it's unlikely Craig's services are receiving discounted rates.
The Mission: Impossible franchise means now isn't the time to economize: This is a favorite fan theory/speculation. During the 2010s, the Mission: Impossible films starring and produced by Tom Cruise have cranked out three entries while Eon's 007 series will have two.
Moreover, the M:I films have gotten a lot of attention for their stunts, big set pieces and international intrigue — things the 007 films are known for.
Paramount recently announced the Cruise M:I series will produce two more entries back-to-back, coming out in 2021 and 2022. By the time the latter entry is out, Cruise will be 60 and Christopher McQuarrie will have written and directed four films.
Filed under: James Bond Films | Tagged: Barbara Broccoli, Bond 25, Christopher McQuarrie, Eon Productions, Mission: Impossible, No Time to Die, Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Pinewood Studios, Scott Z. Burns, The Hollywood Reporter, Tom Cruise |	1 Comment »
M:I 7-8's social media campaign is underway
Mission: Impossible-Fallout poster
Mission: Impossible 7 won't be out until July 23, 2021 and M:I 8 isn't due out until Aug. 5, 2022. But the social media campaign already is underway, thanks to director Christopher McQuarrie.
Earlier this month, McQuarrie used an Instagram post to tease how actress Hayley Atwell will be in the two movies.
The director's post was a bit vague. It had a photo of Atwell on top of an Impossible Missions Force holder. "Should you choose to accept…," he wrote.
The post evoked the 1966-73 television series, where either Dan Briggs or Jim Phelps looked at operative photos while selecting those who would participate in a mission.
In any case, entertainment outlets such as The Hollywood Reporter jumped on McQuarrie's post and did stories.
Atwell later did her own Instagram post to make clear she's in both M:I 7 and MI: 8.
" I'm thrilled to have joined @tomcruise and @christophermcquarrie for the next TWO Mission Impossible movies," she wrote. "To have gone from a classical play in the west-end to an audio book recording of a great new novel to a Disney/Marvel animation and now the female lead in a huge action franchise is the kind of variety that fuels my curiosity and keeps me learning and striving to be better and do better."
McQuarrie, though, wasn't done. Today, he posted a glimpse of new M:I story boards on both Twitter and Instagram.
All of this shows how marketing of movies has changed with social media. Projects try to attract and maintain attention long before films come out. It will be interesting see what happens when filming actually starts.
Here's a look at McQuarrie's tweet from today.
Fear not, @MarkBristol1 is on the case. pic.twitter.com/hA6tSQjAvf
— Christopher McQuarrie (@chrismcquarrie) September 13, 2019
Filed under: The Other Spies | Tagged: Christopher McQuarrie, Haley Atwell, Instagra, Mission: Impossible 7, Mission: Impossible 8, Tom Cruise, Twitter |	2 Comments »
Why it may be time for Eon to modernize its P.R.
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You are making a major action-adventure film. Your star injures himself. What do you do?
If you're making Mission: Impossible-Fallout, you get ahead of the story. Your writer-director Christopher McQuarrie gives an interview to Empire magazine to explain how things are under control even though star Tom Cruise broke his ankle.
Confirming that Cruise had broken his right ankle, McQuarrie assured Empire that his star remained in good shape, in spite of his injury. "Tom is great," McQuarrie said. "He's in very good spirits."
Meanwhile, if you're Eon Productions and your star, Daniel Craig, has suffered (apparently) a lesser injury, you stay quiet.
This week, The Sun, Rupert Murdoch's U.K. tabloid, ran a story about how Craig hurt his ankle during Bond 25 filming. Other outlets summarized The Sun's story, including Variety.
Throughout all this, there was no word from Eon, which has produced the 007 film series since 1962.
Finally, after about 24 hours, The Sun produced a follow-up story saying Craig's injury wasn't that bad and he'll be back at work in a week or so.
Still, for that 24 hour period, others were dictating the Bond 25 story line to the general public.
The thing is, this is par for the course. Eon has a history of denying things that are true such as Ben Whishaw being cast as Q, Naomie Harris being cast as Moneypenny, John Logan being hired to write Bond 24 and 25 (before things changed), Christoph Waltz being cast as Blofeld and so on and so forth.
For that matter, Eon spun a fairy tale in the 1970s that Roger Moore was always the first choice (rather than Sean Connery) to play Bond. For that matter, in the 1980s, Eon's principals said with a straight face that Pierce Brosnan had never been signed to play Bond and Timothy Dalton was always its first choice to succeed Roger Moore as 007.
We're now almost one-fifth into the 21st century. Things change. What worked in the past, doesn't necessarily work now.
You need a communications strategy where your viewpoint is made clear and plain at all times. If you're making a movie that costs more than $200 million, you can't be passive.
Truth be told, a big chunk of the 007 fan base acts as if this is still 1965 and Bond is the biggest thing on the planet. There are times that Eon appears to believe the same thing.
Whatever you believe, you can't be passive in an age where social media helps shape the perception of your product. For one 24-hour period this week, Bond fans genuinely were wondering what was going on.
With silence from Eon, the notion that Craig suffered an injury serious enough to affect Bond 25 filming began to take hold.
This particular dust-up already is fading. But it still points to the need for a more pro-active public relations approach.
Filed under: James Bond Films | Tagged: Ben Whisha, Bond 25, Christoph Waltz, Christopher McQuarrie, Daniel Craig, John Logan, Mission: Impossible-Fallout, Naomie Harris, Pierce Brosnan, Roger Moore, Sean Connery, The Sun, Timothy Dalton, Tom Cruise, Variety |	2 Comments »
McQuarrie talks about M:I 7-8
Poster for Mission: Impossible-Fallout, directed by Christopher McQuarrie.
Christopher McQuarrie, writer-director of the last two Mission: Impossible movies, was interviewed by Empire magazine, which published an excerpt.
Now, McQuarrie will be helming two M:I movies to be filmed back-to-back and released in 2021 and 2022. Cruise will be 60 when the latter comes out.
"I pitched the idea of making two movies, and now I have to justify why it's two movies," Empire quotes McQuarrie as saying. "You've got to earn that. You've got to make something that swallows the last three movies whole. I'm freaked out now. We've talked ourselves into something."
The M:I film series began in 1996. It has had long gaps in between installments. But this decade, the series, produced by star Tom Cruise, has been accelerating its schedule. In the 2010s, it had movies come out in 2011, 2015 and 2018.
The 007 had entries in 2012 and 2015. Bond 25, now in production, is scheduled for release in April 2020.
McQuarrie also tweeted about the Empire interview.
More accuratley, what I said was: https://t.co/lX60xiMJdx pic.twitter.com/eLBam35WBK
— Christopher McQuarrie (@chrismcquarrie) May 2, 2019
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Why Bond 25 may not economize much
Posted on April 3, 2019 by The Spy Commander
Bond 25 production got underway last week with some filming in Norway. There's a lot we don't know (including a title). But there are some signs that the film isn't traveling in Economy Class.
An expensive script doctor: Scott Z. Burns recently spent four weeks working on Bond 25's script. He's a well-regarded scribe and he's moving into directing. His services are in demand. It's likely his Bond 25 services didn't come cheap.
Filed under: James Bond Films | Tagged: Barbara Broccoli, Bond 25, Christopher McQuarrie, Daniel Craig, Eon Productions, Pinewood Studios, Scott Z. Burns, Tom Cruise, Variety |	Leave a comment »
M:I accelerates its output amid longer 007 film gaps
The facts are clear. The importance is a little fuzzy.
So, producer-star Tom Cruise and writer-director Christopher McQuarrie intend to do two Mission: Impossible film back to back. The movies would come out in 2021 and 2022.
If that works out, that means there will have been four M:I films (all directed by McQuarrie) from 2015 to 2022. There will have been two 007 films (2015's SPECTRE and 2020's Bond 25) coming out during that same period.
The M:I development makes sense in that Cruise will turn 60 in 2022. While a fantastic physical specimen for a middle-aged guy, the clock is ticking on Cruise's time as a movie action hero.
The two McQuarrie-directed M:I films (Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation and Mission: Impossible-Fallout) have been big hits. So it's a natural studio Paramount could secure his services for two more movies. On top of everything else, McQuarrie and Cruise obviously get along.
Once upon a time, something similar was envisioned for the Bond series. John Logan was hired to write Bond 24 (later titled SPECTRE) and Bond 25. Skyfall director Sam Mendes, in a 2014 interview, said that he came back to helm SPECTRE after plans were ditched to do Bond 24 and 25 back to back. Star Daniel Craig had vetoed the idea.
Bond fans have a mixed reaction to this. There are the usual social media posts about Bond is superior, Bond is forever, Mission: Impossible will be done when Cruise is done, etc.
But there are also gibes (such as this one by the author of a Bond-related book) calling Cruise a "teeny man." Cruise is listed at 5-foot-7 on IMDB.com while current 007 star Daniel Craig towers above him by an entire three inches, according to that same website. Craig is no runt but he's definitely the shortest Bond in a series cast with tall actors.
(Historical note: Albert R. Broccoli, the co-founder of Eon Productions, had his early successes as a producer after he and his then-partner Irving Allen signed 5-foot-6 1/4 Alan Ladd as a star.)
The M:I news hardly means the end of Bond. And nobody is seriously making that argument.
At the same time, M:I has been showing more energy (perhaps because of the aforementioned ticking clock). On the Bond side? It star, Craig, and lead producer, Barbara Broccoli, wanted to do other things after SPECTRE. "Everybody's a bit tired," Craig said during a 2016 appearance.
As I said at the beginning: The importance of all this is fuzzy. M:I will do what it has to do (with the "teeny man" having a BIG say). The Bond series will do what it wants to do. Unlike other franchises, Bond is not totally controlled by a studio and the one studio involved (Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer) a weak industry player.
Filed under: James Bond Films | Tagged: Albert R. Broccoli, Barbara Broccoli, Bond 25, Christopher McQuarrie, Daniel Craig, Irving Allen, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Mission: Impossible Fallout, Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation, SPECTRE, Tom Cruise |	1 Comment »


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Three hunters who poached a mountain lion in Yellowstone National Park are caught out by their celebratory posts on social media
Austin Peterson, 20, Trey Juhnke, 20, and Corbin Simmons, 19 illegally shot the mature male mountain lion Yellowstone National Park in December 2018
Last month they received three-year hunting bans and individual fines of $1,666
Authorities caught the trio after they posted pictures of the hunt on social media
By Miranda Aldersley For Dailymail.com
Three hunters who illegally slaughtered a mountain lion in Yellowstone National Park last year left a trail of evidence on social media that allowed authorities to convict them.
Austin Peterson, 20, Trey Juhnke, 20, and Corbin Simmons, 19, received a three-year worldwide hunting ban last month, according to documents obtained by the Jackson Hole News & Guide.
The trio had uploaded celebratory photographs of their illegal kill on Instagram, Snapchat and Facebook, which were seen by other hunters who recognised the landscape and alerted game wardens.
Austin Peterson, Trey Juhnke and Corbin Simmons were last month convicted of illegally killing a mountain lion in Yellowstone National Park
The trio were caught after they documented their hunt on social media, uploading celebratory photographs Instagram, Facebook and Snapchat
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The News & Guide reports that while questioning Simmons about the incident, Yellowstone special agent Jake Olson said: 'You know, we ended up getting a lot of this information from a guy in Bozeman off of Facebook because you guys put a bunch of stuff on social media.'
The men pleaded guilty to violating the Lacey Act of 1894, which banned the taking, selling or purchasing of wildlife from protected areas.
Along with the three-year ban, they were each fined $1,666.
According to the investigation documents, all three men admitted to shooting the mature male mountain lion in Montana on December 12, 2018, before taking it across the border to their vehicle.
The men received a three-year worldwide hunting and fishing ban as well as individual fines of $1,666
However they later changed their stories during individual interviews, contradicting each other on key details such as when they saw the boundary posts, where they encountered the cat and who actually took the shot that killed it.
Authorities later learned that all three men had fired at the animal, which was hit eight times.
Yellowstone's Chief Ranger Pete Webster thanked law enforcement in a statement about the incident.
'Their thorough work spotlighted this egregious act,' he said, 'and the consequences incurred for hunting illegally in Yellowstone National Park.'
Hunters who illegally killed mountain lion in Yellowstone National Park caught by social media posts

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When Ireland's economy was roaring ahead in 2006, some 93,419 new houses were built as the country sought to exploit the booming market. The building didn't stop, but the good times have.
Indebted Ireland faces a grim future with its banks on the brink, vicious public sector cutbacks kicking in, unemployment on the rise and soup kitchens opening in the centre of Dublin.
And developers, who dived headlong into the property market with interest rates held low by membership of the euro, are hurting more than most.
In Dublin, towers sprang up on docksides and flood plains and fields became the sites of shiny new housing estates.
But a house once worth 300,000 euros (£255,000) is now worth about a third of that price and even the most conservative estimates predict that Ireland's property prices will not return to 2008 levels until at least 2020.
Some estimates put the number of empty homes as high as 300,000, although yesterday a town planner, Bill Nowlam, claimed in the Irish Times said only 23,000 newbuilt houses remained unoccupied.
What isn't in doubt, is that bailout or no, these 'ghost towns' will provide a nasty reminder of Ireland's downfall for a long time to come.
Irish trade unionists today threatened a campaign of civil disobedience if the state's beleaguered government fails to call a general election.
Talks resumed today in Dublin between the government and representatives of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and European officials on a bailout for the crisis-hit economy.
But in a display of anger at the performance of the Fianna Fail-led government, a leading trade union today called for a public campaign to force a general election.
Yesterday Irish prime minister, Taoiseach Brian Cowen, rejected calls for his resignation and said his government was continuing to work in the Republic's best interests.
The Technical, Engineering and Electrical Union (TEEU) met in Galway for its biennial conference where the agenda was topped by a debate on the feared impact of multi-billion euro cuts in public spending.
TEEU general secretary Eamon Devoy said the government's forthcoming spending cuts would hit the most vulnerable sections of society.
'What we are witnessing is a dismantling of social welfare provision and pensions for older people and the unemployed, health services for the sick and open access to higher education for our young, while creating immunity from pain for the builders, property speculators and hierarchy of the banking system who are entirely responsible for the mess we find ourselves in,' he said.
He accused the government of 'floundering blindly through this crisis and dragging us all towards the precipice with it'.
Meanwhile, William Hague raised doubts about the future of the euro today, saying it was impossible to know whether the currency would collapse.
His comments came as talks continued about the possible need to bail out debt-ridden Ireland, the latest crisis-hit eurozone member.
Asked whether the euro could collapse, Mr Hague told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: 'Well I hope not.
'No-one has pointed out more of the problems than I have over the years in having a currency where we lock together the exchange rates and interest rates of countries with different economies.
Who owns all of these properties now? If even at 66% off the price and they can't sell it just shows how screwed the Irish economy is.
Can we not build a 800mph train with one big fly-over bridge from these streets into central London? Strictly no other stops in between.
I can see the problem with buying right now - although the parking situation looks divine - but wouldn't picking up a large house for £100k on this estate in perhaps 5years when things start to pick up be quite a smart move for someone with a good job in Dublin or an older person with a generous pension selling a £300k house in S. England?
I bet they won't stay that cheap for long when the pain is over and money starts moving back in.
A tunnel under The Irish Sea might work.
I'm pleased I'm helping pay for this lot! How f*cked up is this?
given the pics and state of ireland that still seems very expensive. I would have thought they would be taking anything they could get for them by now.
These are my thoughts exactly. I worked in Dublin during 2006 and everyone who owned a house wanted to tell you how much it was worth. I remarked, on numerous occasions, that the prices were too high given the amount of land available. I even advised one Irish lady to sell up but she insisted that property in Ireland was an investment. You only have to travel a couple of miles outside of Dublin and you're in empty countryside. The Irish thought that it would never end. Dublin was acting like it was New York, when in reality it's not much more than a big town. All the roads seemed to be paid for by the EU, so it makes you wonder what the Celtic Tiger actually did pay for...well except lining the corrupt Bertie Ahern's briefcase full of cash.
I suggest we send some our homeless to Ireland or Spain.
Thanks Tina, but eh, no thanks.
We've enough problems without taking having to take on the experimental social mess that is already way too evident in the UK.
Exactly right if you look on this in the long term now is the time to be buying. Even if there are some more drops it wouldn't matter in the long term as this is near bottom now.
A friend of mine has recently purchased an Irish speciality gourmet business that was in receivership, invested in it, reinvigorated it and it now has legs again. It's not going as quick as he would like but it has started up again and the long term outlook for this business is very positive.
It is true that one time to buy an asset is when things look their bleakest.
I prefer to look for the beginning of a genuine upturn though, not having a huge amount I can confidently tie up for years.
Interesting story on the gourmet business though personally I would find that forcing suppliers to write off/down existing liabilities to enable a fresh start would leave a bad taste.
Mind you - I'd buy a repo. so that makes me a right hypocrite!
My bear status is based on outlook, not philosophy, and will turn bull at some point.
I realise some on here see long term low prices as social good, and it would be, but I just don't see the pre-condition of the release of millions of acres for development ever being met in the UK.
too far to commute, too close for weekend homes.
Am I being paranoid or is there an unpleasant 'everything would be rosy, pwoperdee booming like never before, if only we hadn't built so many pesky houses' subtext here?
Only you could be bullish on house prices in a country where 20% of houses are empty.
If only Bardon was bullish in these circumstances we wouldn't be in the mess we are.
Unfortunately perhaps 80% of the western world are bullish about property irrespective of the point in the cycle, and most of the rest are neithers.
Lots of them will be temporary bears for a year or so as this plays out but will switch back to bull very easily.
Even a depression won't help. By the early 50s Americans were already bullish on property again despite up to 95% falls in Manhattan apartments during the 30s and a World War!.
Basically most people are rubbish at economics and desperately want to be 'winners'.
Maybe its our genes but I thought we were supposed to be able to use our brains to override primal urges.
well if anyone needs a good film set for a zombie apocalypse movie in ireland, there are quite a few ready to film in by the looks of it.
"Anyone know which bank gave that couple their mortgage? Never knew thinks were quite as mad as THAT."
Have actually been in these estates a few times. Problem is though that there are no facilities or no sense of community. No local shops or sports clubs etc.
Think those houses will be standing that long?
Ha ha, why the long face?
That house looks like if fell off the back of a lorry.
Ireland will see another 30% or more off IMHO.
A lot more than 30% i would think.


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Станиславівське воєводство — адміністративно-територіальна одиниця Польської Республіки, її найпівденніше воєводство вздовж тодішнього польсько-румунського кордону. Утворене 23 грудня 1920 року з 16 повітів з адміністративним центром у Станиславові на анексованих Польською республікою землях Західноукраїнської Народної Республіки.

Станиславівське воєводство охоплювало повністю сучасну Івано-Франківську область, а також (у поділі на райони до 2020 року) Стрийський, Сколівський, Жидачівський, Миколаївський райони Львівської області України.

17 грудня 1920 року польський сейм ухвалив закон «Про надання землі солдатам Війська Польського», виконуючи свою обіцянку під час війни з більшовиками, коли Варшава опинилася під загрозою захоплення. Уряд заходився реалізовувати свою обіцянку на українських землях, де розпочалося так зване осадництво — створення польських поселень із селян і колишніх військових.

Населення
Чисельність населення за переписами:
 1921 р. — 1 339 191,
 1931 р. — 1 480 285.

Більшість населення Станиславівського воєводства становили українці. Опубліковані польським урядом цифри про національний склад за результатами перепису 1931 року були спростовані сучасниками і за ними українці нібито становили лише 68 % населення воєводства або 1 006 400 осіб, у той же час поляки нібито становили аж 23 % (340 400 осіб), а євреї — 7 % (103 600 ос.) населення воєводства. Недостовірність поданих цифр спричинена не тільки зарахуванням поляками всіх римо-католиків (хоча серед них третину становили українці-латинники) та частини греко-католиків (цього віросповідання дотримувалися винятково українці) та юдеїв (ними були винятково євреї), а й «повна фантастичність» цифр Тлумацького повіту. Поляки та євреї проживали головним чином у містах, де вони становили більшість населення, особливо у Станиславові, Стрию, Коломиї, Снятині, Скольому і т. д.

На 1.01.1939 у воєводстві проживало 1 581 625 мешканців (1 183 785 українців-грекокатоликів — 75 %, 70 625 українців-латинників — 4 %, 145 470 поляків — 9 %, 13 790 польських колоністів міжвоєнного періоду — 1 %, 145 810 євреїв — 9 % і 22145 німців та інших національностей — 1 %).

Густота населення воєводства була неоднорідною: прикарпатські та наддністрянські повіти були значно густіше заселені, ніж гірські карпатські повіти.

Головними містами воєводства були Станиславів, Коломия, Стрий i Снятин..

Мова
Мовний склад населення Станиславівського воєводства за даними перепису 1931 року
 українська — 1 018 303 (68,8 %)
 українська — 693 175
 руська (галицька) — 325 128
 польська — 332 175 (22,4 %)
 єврейська — 109 378 (7,3 %)
 їдиш — 101 256
 іврит — 8 122
 німецька — 16 737 (1,1 %)
 російська — 225 (0,02 %)

Рідна мова населення повітів Станиславівського воєводства за переписом 1931 року, %

Релігія
Релігійний склад населення за переписом 1931 року
 греко-католики — 1 079 019 (72,9 %)
 католики — 245 944 (16,6 %)
 юдеї — 139 746 (9,4 %)
 протестанти — 12 492 (0,8 %)
 православні — 891 (0,06 %)

Релігійний склад населення повітів Станиславівського воєводства за переписом 1931 року, %

Освіта
За переписом 1931 р. серед населення Станиславівського воєводства старше 10 років вміли читати та писати 62,2 %, вміли тільки читати 0,5 %, а 36,6 % населення не вміли читати і писати.

Серед юдеїв вміли читати і писати 86,2 % населення старше 5 років, серед римокатоликів — 77,1 %, серед грекокатоликів — 54,0 %.

Вміння читати і писати серед населення старше 10 років за даними перепису 1931 р., %

Адміністративний поділ

Станиславівське воєводство межувало на північному заході з Львівським воєводством, на північному сході з Тернопільським воєводством, на південному заході — з Підкарпатською Руссю Чехословаччини, південному сході — з Північною Буковиною Королівства Румунія.

 У 1921 році Станиславівське воєводство поділялось на 16 повітів.

1 квітня 1929 р. ліквідовано Печеніжинський повіт, а його територію приєднано до Коломийського повіту.

17 квітня 1931 р. зі Станиславівського воєводства відокремлено Турківський повіт, який включено до Львівського воєводства.

1 квітня 1932 р. ліквідовано Богородчанський повіт, a його територію приєднано до Надвірнянського та Станиславівського повітів і ліквідовано Сколівський повіт, а його територію приєднано до Стрийського повіту. Отож, надалі Станиславівське воєводство поділялось на 12 повітів (включали 746 сільських ґмін і 26 міських).

У ході адміністративної реформи місцевого самоврядування 1934 року змінено структуру повітів, воєводство нараховувало 901 громаду, об'єднану в 119 сільських ґмін і 28 міських.

Площу територій повітів воєводства подано станом на 1939 р. У випадку ліквідації або зміни приналежності до воєводства територія повітів подана на останній рік існування в межах цього воєводства. Кількість населення подана на основі перепису населення 1931 р. в Польській республіці. У випадку ліквідованих або приєднаних до інших воєводств повітів кількість населення подано на підставі перепису населення 1921 р. в Польській республіці.

Станиславівські воєводи
 Едмунд Юристовський —— (21 жовтня 1921 — 18 серпня 1925) рр.
 Александер Дес Лоґес —— (18 серпня 1925 — 25 жовтня 1926) рр.
 Владислав Корсак —— (18 грудня 1926 — 12 вересня 1927) рр.
 Александер Моравський —— (28 жовтня 1927 — 30 жовтня 1928) рр.
 Броніслав Наконечников-Клюковський —— (30 жовтня 1928 — 29 серпня 1930) рр.
 Зиґмунт Яґодзінський —— (3 вересня 1930 — 1 лютого 1936) рр. (в. о. до 2 лютого 1931)
 Мечислав Стажинський —— (11 лютого 1936 — 22 червня 1936) рр. (в. о.)
 Ян Савіцький —— (23 червня 1936 — липень 1936) рр.
 Стефан Паславський —— (14 липня 1936 — 20 січня 1939) рр.
 Станіслав Ярецький —— (20 січня 1939 — 2 вересня 1939) рр.

Ліквідація

Припинило існування після анексії Західної України Союзом Радянських Соціалістичних Республік. З 10 повітів Станиславівського воєводства 27 листопада 1939 р. було утворено Станіславську область Української Радянської Соціалістичної Республіки, а Жидачівський і Стрийський повіти включені до складу Дрогобицької області УРСР.

У 1945—1946 р. з території колишнього Станиславівського воєводства репатрійовано 97,3 тис. поляків.

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 Операція «Колонізація». Польське осадництво на західноукраїнських землях.

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Hong Kong finance executives are embracing the sharing economy with 62% saying it will be good for Hong Kong's competitiveness.
The American Express Global Business and Spending Outlook survey showed that 83% believe that the "sharing economy" will greatly impact their industries within the next five years, while 77% said that their firms would "likely" develop offerings based on sharing economy innovations during the next five years.
The positive mindset toward a sharing economy is especially telling when other surveys showed that Hong Kong fared poorly in this regard.
The University of Hong Kong's Public Opinion Programme in August 2017, commissioned by the Sharing Economy Alliance, showed that Hong Kong scored an average of only 1.9 points. Singapore and Seoul scored the highest in the category for developing innovation and technology (3.8 points out of 5),
"Our findings suggest that we need support and leverage the industry groups created to drive innovation and ensure that Hong Kong maintains its competitive edge because they are the incubators for potential partners as companies seek to digitize and modernize operations. It's also equally important that we embrace government policies that support these investments," Stephen Pendergast, Vice President & General Manager - Global Commercial Services, Hong Kong & Taiwan at American Express said in a press release.
Seventy-three percent regarded technology was the top source of conflicts and disagreement among age groups within the workforce, followed by communication style (63%), work-life balance (50%), work ethic (43%), and willingness to collaborate and work as a team (33%).
"Companies are embracing technology at the strategic level, but more work is needed to ensure that it is adopted and embraced throughout the company," Mr. Pendergast said.
"First, managers need to be ambassadors and clearly communicate how the new technology will better meet customer needs and make their lives easier. Second, internal communications need to be more fun and engaging, and continue beyond the launch of the new technology so that employees can ask questions, share success stories, and feel supported throughout the time," he added.
Overall, the respondents felt the economy is moving in the right direction, with 93% expecting substantial or modest economic expansion in Hong Kong, compared to 85% globally.
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His research is always related to the development of electron- and ion-optical instruments, "trying to improve our eyes to look at the microscopic world and the hands that we use to create a new nano-world". He has had research programs on nm-resolution electron spectroscopy, developments of low energy-spread electron- and ion sources and multi-beam optics for microscopy and lithography. Most of his work is performed in cooperation with industry. For his work in electron lithography he founded, with two of his graduates, MAPPER Lithography. This company has now grown to more than 250 employees. His involvement in trying to reduce magnetic disturbances from a planned tramway through the university has led to a novel current supply system to be implemented on the Delft campus. Based on his ideas on combining electron microscopy with light microscopy, he started a new company with some of his coworkers and students. Among his organizational responsibilities was the presidency of the Dutch Society for Microscopy, the editorship of Ultramicroscopy and the directorship of the Delft physics education. In acknowledgement for his contributions he received the national physics "Valorization award" and the University's yearly teaching award. In 2012 he was knighted in the order of the Dutch Lion.
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Posted: April 5, 2014 in Action, Adventure, Drama, English language, New releases
Tags: Anthony Hopkins, Bible, biblical, Darren Aronofsky, Douglas Booth, Emma Watson, Jennifer Connelly, movie, Noah, Ray Winstone, review, Russell Crowe
Director: Darren Aronofsky
**This review is full of spoilers. If you know the bible well, this won't matter, except to the extent that Noah the film isn't entirely true to the story**
What to make of Darren Aronofsky's Noah? Although not a believer myself, I was rather hoping to enjoy this film, just as I enjoy films about haunted houses despite not believing in ghosts. I admire Russell Crowe and Anthony Hopkins as actors, I enjoyed Darren Aronofsky's previous two films (Black Swan and The Wrestler), and even the dumbest blockbusters can be fun. In anticipation that I might get more of a kick from wallowing in the film's epicness rather than the story itself, I even coughed up a few extra Duane Eddy's to see it at the IMAX. What a mistake. Noah's problem is that it is just too epic for its own good. All subtlety is lost beneath a slew of CGI battles and a thundering soundtrack that, at times, would give Motörhead a run for their money in the volume stakes. There is absolutely no light and shade. Everything is treated so seriously that, by the time the Ark gets afloat it seems to be in imminent danger of sinking beneath the film's overwhelming portentousness.
I am in no position to comment on how closely Noah follows the biblical story. Needless to say, some biblical literalists are already complaining that it doesn't follow the "facts". But really, who cares? We all know that "true stories" on the silver screen play fast and loose with the actualité, so I was happy just to take the story at face value. To begin with, after a bit of biblical scene-setting Noah starts seeing signs and having dreams that he realises is "the creator" (we never hear the word "God") telling him about a coming disaster, a flood to punish mankind for their sins. The whole of humanity will be wiped out, but Noah will build an ark and save the world's animals. Those animals are all birds, mammals, reptiles and insects, the dinosaurs having disappeared a few million years before. Exactly what the dinosaurs did to arouse God's wrath is an issue left unexplored. The fish, presumably, are not endangered by the flood, and Noah does slip in a quick reference to them when recounting the story of how God made the world.
Noah starts to build the ark with the help of a group of fearsome stone beings called The Watchers, who look like they were swept up off the cuttings room floor at one of the Lord of the Rings movies. The Watchers have this sob-story about how they were hunted and persecuted by humans, although this doesn't quite add up because later on they turn out to be highly proficient at kicking human butt. Then Ray Winstone arrives on the scene playing Tubal-Cain, whose family have a bit of history with Noah's family, and he warns Noah that he's the daddy and that if Noah doesn't get off his land there's going to be trouble. Don't worry, says Noah, I'm building this big ark to save my family from the terrible flood that's going to kill you and your people. Then The Watchers start squaring up to Tubal-Cain and his mob, so they head off back home to make some more weapons.
Meanwhile, Noah's adopted daughter Ila (Emma Watson) is in love with Shem (Douglas Booth), but she is unhappy because she can't bear him children. While she's out in the forest she bumps into Noah's grandfather, Methuselah (Anthony Hopkins), who is obsessively hunting for the berries he loves, even though (or because) he hasn't seen one in years. Methuselah waves his hand over Ila's belly and makes her fertile. Quite where he got this magical ability, and why he can't use it to grow berries, is never explained. Eventually, Methuselah finds a single red berry, which appears to have some symbolic meaning in relation to the red apple that Eve scrumped in the Garden of Eden (and which appears in Noah's dreams from time to time).
Eventually, the great flood happens, whereupon Tubal-Cain's vast army of men try to storm the ark. Curiously, there don't seem to be any women among Tubal-Cain's people, except for one girl that Noah's son Ham (Logan Lerman) tries to bring along for the ride. Sadly, she gets her foot caught in a trap and Noah won't rescue her, which causes a strain in father-son relations. Anyway, The Watchers kick the crap out of Tubal-Cain's men, except for Tubal-Cain himself who manages to stow away on the ark, albeit wounded. Tubal-Cain bides his time, building up his strength by scoffing the animals who, incidentally, have all been put to sleep (not in the euphemistic sense) by a magical potion that Noah has mixed. Tubal-Cain also gets some help from Ham, who is still mad at dad over the girl he left behind. Despite the fact the seas are in turmoil, and the ark is rectangular rather than boat-shaped, no-one gets seasick.
Eventually, there is a showdown between Tubal-Cain and Noah. Then Noah finds out that Ila is pregnant, which isn't good news because God has determined that the extermination of the human race includes Noah and his family, but only once they have ensured the animals' safety. He is even madder when he learns that Methuselah cured Ila of her barrenness, because his action constituted interference with God's plans. It wasn't Ila's fault, says Noah's wife Naahmeh (Jennifer Connelly), I asked Methuselah to do it. However, this doesn't stop Noah from vowing to kill Ila's child if it is a girl, because a girl could procreate with young Japheth (Leo McHugh Carroll), who is destined to be the last human left alive. If you can be bothered to think about it, this does of course raise the usual philosophical questions about how – if God is all-powerful – he was unable to stop Methuselah from acting against his will.
So far, so ridiculous. Nonetheless, throughout all this Russell Crowe is always watchable. He gives a very strong performance, albeit one which is not dissimilar from some of his previous roles. Crowe is best in the scenes prior to the Ark disappearing out into the oceans, when he has the opportunity to be quite animated. Once on the ark, he increasingly adopts the countenance of someone introspecting on all manner of troubling thoughts, a role he has been playing ever since 1999's The Insider. However, when Noah learns of Ila's pregnancy he starts to become quite megalomaniacal, and I felt that Crowe's performance threatened to go just a little over the top at this point. Anthony Hopkins as Methuselah was his usual hypnotic screen presence, and Ray Winstone as Tubal-Cain was fearsomely excellent.
However, herein lays a problem. These three roles are the most significant for the film and are played to the hilt by the actors in question. They completely dominate the female figures. The various female performers do their best, but just cannot compete. Jennifer Connelly fares best out of the female actors, but being required to play a – mostly – dutiful wife against a husband who is enacting God's will doesn't give much opportunity to shine. The person who loses out most in the acting stakes is Emma Watson. She is good in the more intimate scenes, particularly when it is just her and Connelly, but her performance is painfully exposed in the more expansive scenes, especially in the presence of Crowe. Repeatedly, she does that slight movement of the eyebrows, and looking into the distance, familiar from the Harry Potter films, which is meant to indicate concern. In these scenes she is about as wooden as the ark itself. In a broader sense the film also doesn't do Watson any favours. For someone who is presumably keen to escape the Harry Potter label, it can't help when, at intervals, a large CGI-ed bird swoops into a landscape shot and begins flapping furiously. I couldn't help thinking that here was a bird on its way to deliver a message to Hogwarts.
Story-wise, Noah calls to mind one of those atheistic Facebook memes that takes a bible story (sometimes the whole bible story), strips it of all archaic and flowery language, and summarises it in a few succinct sentences that would fit on a postcard. Seen this way, all God's cruelties and inconsistencies – at least as recorded by the authors of the Old Testament – are thrown into sharp relief for comic effect. At the end of Noah, the ark and its inhabitants are all washed up in the middle of nowhere. Rather like the film itself.
It's a very strange movie that seems like it has something to say, but doesn't know how to say it all. So, instead, it just settles for a relatively safe ending. Good review.
davidkhardman says:
Yeah, I think that's right! Thanks for commenting.
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ABANDONMENT.—The abandonment of the weak, of children and of the elderly is one of the characteristics that civilization has borrowedfrom savagery. New Industrial World.109, 407, 424.—The civilized order can only produce eviland hypocrisy. It is powerless to ensure the effective protection of the weak. Supportfor children quickly degenerates intoexploitation, under the mask of charity, and assistance for the infirmand elderly degenerates into abuse.
BEE.—The beehive and the hornets' nest depict the two political orders of harmony and civilization. Q. 429.—The hive depicts the three functions of unitary industry: production, distribution, consumption. III. 215.
— A bee transported to an island furnished only with bare rock will nonetheless be attracted to flowers. II. 315. — Attraction is a primordial impulse, indestructible in all the beings in creation. Attraction is the divine impetus.
ABUNDANCE.—Abundance will result from the organization of the passional series, or societary regime, which will multiply the pastures, the orchards, the poultry-yards, etc. It will increase the cultivated land in all zones, along with industry and all the sources of wealth. Q. 243. III. 564, 567, 568, 571. L. 19.
— In civilization we see the abundance of products alongside poverty and hunger, and if the people of civilization do not die of the urgent need for food, they die of hunger slowly through privations, surrounded by products in superabundance. N. 29, 30. — We see entire peoples, like the Irish in 1822, die of hunger in times of perfect peace and abundance. IV. 362. Haven't we seen recently, in India, whole populations dying beside piles of wheat?
— In civilization poverty is born from abundance itself. N. 35. — It is an economic monstrosityendemic in advanced civilization. We have a recent example of it in France, where the surplus production of wine has caused the poverty of the producers.
GASTROLATRY. — Ignoble role of the man who only knows how to play with his jaw. — New Industrial World, 259. Theory of Universal Unity, 109.
GASTRONOMY. — In civilization gastronomy can only play a very subordinate role, nearer to debauchery than to wisdom. — New Industrial World, 258.
— Conditions which render gastronomy honorable and praiseworthy. X. 251.
— Gastronomy is a seed of attraction more effective than any other. N. 260, 382.
GASTROSOPHY. — Gastrosophy is gastronomy applied to industrial attraction and to hygiene.
— Gastronomy, which in civilization is only a simple and contemptible sensuality, becomes in harmony a science of high social politics, called Gastrosophy, high gastronomic wisdom, profound and sublime theory of social equilibrium. — Theory of Universal Unity, III. 139.
— Gastrosophy or hygienic wisdom engendered by the 4 functions: Gastronomy, Cooking, Preserving, Cultivation. — New Industrial World, 258.
— Graded gastronomy is the mechanism organized to work promptly as mechanism of attraction in a trial phalanx. — New Industrial World, 102. – Motifs by which the gastronomic passion has a strong influence for the success of the beginnings of Harmony. — New Industrial World, 261.
— Necessity of speculating on gastronomy to make industrial attractions bloom. New Industrial World, 300. Is disdained today by women. — New Industrial World, 206. — But will be the most powerful emulative mechanism in education in the combined order. Livret d'Annonce, 31.
— Gastronomy or gastrosophy will be the source of refinements in the quality of products, which will allow the poorest Harmonian to claim to be better served than the kings of Civilization. — New Industrial World, 273.
— Utility of the gastrosophic antiennefor classifying temperaments from an early age. — New Industrial World, 343.
— Combined gastronomy envisioned in its political, material and passional sense. — Theory of the Four Movements, 236, 243, 253.
— Wonders composite, serial gastronomy. Melons that never deceive. — Theory of Universal Unity, III. 47.
— Problem of bi-composite gastronomy. The triumph of the tough poultry. — Theory of Universal Unity, III. 135.
— Major or gastrosophic war. (The word "war" is used in the sense of rivalry.) — Theory of Universal Unity, IV. 352. See: Industrial armies.
— Gastrosophy is derided by the Civilized, even though it is their guilty pleasure, for the love of good food reigns as much in the philosopher as in the prelate who rants against the pleasures of the table. — Theory of Universal Unity, IV. 418.
— Gastrosophy demands the cooperation of four sciences: chemical, agronomical, medicinal and culinary. — Theory of Universal Unity, IV. 420.


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From the Archives: Joseph Smith or the Sword!?
By David G.November 17, 2007
Justin's recent post at Mormon Wasp describes the latest Jack Chick anti-Mormon comic book, The Enchanter. Chick's comic contains a picture of Joseph Smith, dressed in full Nauvoo Legion attire, saying: "If the people let us alone, we will preach the gospel in peace. But if they come on us to molest us, we will establish our religion with the sword. We will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of blood…from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean. I will be to this generation a 2nd Muhammad, whose motto in treating for peace was ?the Al-Qur'an or the sword.' So shall it be with us — ?Joseph Smith or the sword!' (See History of the Church, Vol. 3, p. 167)." This quote was also included in the recent movie September Dawn, in a scene depicting the destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor in 1844.
The funny thing about Chick's comic and September Dawn is that they depict Smith saying this quote in Illinois. Historical sources attribute this statement to Smith not in Illinois, but in Missouri in 1838, when mob violence was escalating. The quote is taken from Thomas B. Marsh's October 24, 1838 affidavit, which describes a speech given by Smith the previous summer. Marsh's statement is corroborated by three other individuals, George M. Hinkle, John Corrill, George Walter, and partially by a fourth, Abner Scovil. Walter and Scovil place the speech in June 1838, soon after the expulsion of Mormon dissenters from Far West. As an entry in Smith's journal entry suggests, "some excitement was raised in the adjoining Counties, that is Ray & Clay, against us, in consequence of the suden departure of these wicked character[s], of the apostates from this Church, into that vicinity reporting false stories, and statements, but when they [the Missourians] come to hear the other side of the question their feeling[s] were all allayed upon that subject especially."[1]
We will never know with certainty if Smith made this statement or not. To my knowledge, Marsh, Hinkle, Corrill, Walter, and Scovil were the only individuals that recorded the quote, and the first three had left the Church prior to making their statements (I'm not sure about either Walter or Scovil). It should be remembered that in the summer and fall of 1838, Joseph Smith was under increasing pressure to defend his people from mob encroachments. There was considerable fear that the dissenters (led by Oliver Cowdery and the Whitmers) would raise a mob and drive out the Mormons. After being driven from Jackson County in 1834, Mormon leaders declared in 1838 that they would not be driven again, and therefore advocated violent counter-measures. Given this context, it is possible that Smith made some kind of reference to violent resistance and may have compared himself to the Muslim prophet. But there is no evidence that Smith had similar sentiments in Nauvoo, and for that reason it is unfortunate that Chick and September Dawn chose to conflate the alleged Missouri statement with the Nauvoo setting, as though to suggest that Smith was by nature a dangerous fanatic that advocated throughout his life militarily taking over the world. That simply was not the case.
Thomas B. Marsh
I have heard the prophet say that he should yet tread down his enemies, and walk over their dead bodies; that if he was not let alone he would be a second Mahomet to this generation, and that he would make it one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean; that like Mahomet, whose motto, in treating for peace, was" the Alcoran or the Sword," so should it be eventually with us, "Joseph Smith or the Sword." These last statements were made during the last summer. [2]
George M. Hinkle
I have heard Joseph Smith, jr. say that he believed Mahomet was a good man; that the Koran was not a true thing, but the world belied Mohamet, as they had belied him, and that Mahomet was a true prophet. [3]
John Corrill
In the last, or in some public meeting, Joseph Smith, jr., said: if the people would let us alone, we would preach the gospel to them in peace; but, if they came on us to molest us, we would establish our religion by the sword; and that he would become to this generation a second Mahomet. [4]
George Walter
Soon after the dissenters were driven away from Caldwell county, I was in Far-West, in Corill's [Corrill's] store, perhaps the last of June last, and heard Joseph Smith, jun., say, that he believed Mahomet was an inspired man, and had done a great deal of good, and that he intended to take the same course Mahomet did; that if the people would let him alone, he would, after a while, die a natural death; but if they did not, he would make it one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the State of Maine. He further said, that he had, or would have, (the witness does not-remember which,) as regular an inquisition as ever was established, and as good a set of inquisitors as ever was. This conversation was had when talking about the dissenters. [5]
Abner Scovil
In the latter part of June last, I heard Joseph Smith, jun., say, that if the people would let him alone, he would conquer them by the sword of the spirit; but if they would not, he would beat the plough-shares into swords, and their pruning-hooks into spears, and conquer them he would. [6]
[1] JS, Journal, [July 1838], in Dean C. Jessee, ed., The Papers of Joseph Smith, vol. 2, Journal, 1832-1842 (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 1992), 255-56.
[2] Affidavit of Thomas B. Marsh, Richmond, Missouri, October 24, 1838, Document Containing the Correspondence, Orders, &C. in Relation to the Disturbances with the Mormons; and the Evidence Given Before the Hon. Austin A. King, Judge of the Fifth Judicial Circuit of the State of Missouri, at the Court-House in Richmond, in a Criminal Court of Inquiry, Begun November 12, 1838, on the Trial of Joseph Smith, Jr., and Others for High Treason and Other Crimes Against the State (Fayette, Missouri: Boon's Lick Democrat, 1841), 58-59. Matt W. points out that in the footnote of HC 3:167-68, Roberts inserted a John Taylor sermon, given apparently in the late 1870s, in which Taylor denied the contents of Marsh's affidavit. Aside from the fact that this sermon was given forty years after the alleged statement was made in 1838, it should also be noted that the only thing that Taylor specifically repudiates in Marsh's affidavit is his statement on the Danites. The question of whether or not Danites existed, however, has long been settled and even completely orthodox Mormon scholars do not dispute this (See Baugh, "A Call to Arms," 36-43). The question of why Taylor would deny that the Danites existed, when it's clear that they did, is unfortunately too complex to address here.
[3] Testimony of George M. Hinkle, Document, 128.
[4] Testimony of John Corrill, Document, 111.
[5] Testimony of George Walter, in James H. Hunt, Mormonism: Embracing the Origin, Rise and Progress of the Sect, with an Examination of the Book of Mormon; Also, Their Troubles in Missouri, and Final expulsion from the State; With and Appendix, giving an Account of the Late Disturbances in Illinois, Which Resulted in the Death of Joseph and Hyrum Smith, by G. W. Westbrook. (St. Louis, IL: Ustick & Davies, 1844), 217. Hat tip to Justin for pointing this account out to me. Like Hinkle and Corrill, Walter was witness for the state of Missouri at the November 1838 hearing where JS was tried for treason. For unknown reasons, Walter's testimony was not included in the 1841 printed compilation of evidence and documents (see note #1), but was printed with in Hunt's 1844 history. The manuscript hearing record containing all the testimony is located in the archives at the University of Missouri, Columbia, Missouri.
[6] Testimony of Abner Scovil, in Hunt, Mormonism, 227. Like Walter's testimony, Scovil's was also ommitted from the 1841 printing but was included in Hunt's history.
Article filed under Categories of Periodization: Origins From the Archives
Are you seriously trying to say that Joseph was not generally a violent man, and that he just got a little carried away in Missouri?
Comment by tiredmormon — November 18, 2007 @ 5:48 am
Tired: I'm trying to say that, given the context in Missouri, JS could have compared himself to Muhammad. But I can't see him making such a declaration either before, or after, the summer/fall of 1838. If you can provide compelling evidence that JS would have done this throughout his life, have at it.
Comment by David Grua — November 18, 2007 @ 11:42 am
tiredmormon, way to contribute something meaningful to the conversation. Feel free to stop by anytime and leave such intelligent and thorough comments.
David, thanks for doing the research on this. I find Hinckle's statement quotes JS as saying that "Mahomet was a true prophet." Are there any other sources corroborating this proposal that JS saw Mohammed as a "true prophet"?
Comment by Christopher — November 18, 2007 @ 9:40 pm
Chris: I find that interesting as well. I haven't come across anything else like it. I do know that "An Ordinance in Relation to Religious Societies," passed March 1, 1841 by the Nauvoo City Council, specifically grants "Mohommedans…free toleration and equal Privilieges in this City" (Times and Seasons, March 1, 1841, 337). At a time when there were few Muslims in America my sense is that this was fairly progressive.
Comment by David Grua — November 18, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
Are the legal documents printed in James Hunt's Mormonism: Embracing the Origin, Rise and Progress of the Sect legitimate? I noticed a deposition of George Walter in which made similar claims (p. 217).
Comment by Justin — November 19, 2007 @ 10:23 am
Thanks for reminding me about the Walter testimony. I had forgotten that he also recorded the Muhammad statement. While I was looking in Hunt I also found that Abner Scovil recorded part of the statement as well.
Yes, Hunt published the testimonies from the November 1838 hearing. I've only spot checked the transcriptions in Hunt, but from what I've seen the documents are the same as those published by the Missouri legislature in 1841. For reasons unknown to me, the testimonies of Robert Snodgrass, George Walter, and Abner Scovil were not included when the Missouri legislature published the hearing proceedings in 1841. I'm fairly certain that the complete hearing record was housed in the Daviess County Circuit Court, Gallatin, Missouri in the early 1840s, so I assume that Hunt went there to get the other three testimonies.
Hmmm, just an interesting note. This thread is talking about inaccurate historical references in a movie and a graphic novel. The other post for today, about the pre-screening of the new Emma Smith movie, seems to cut it a free pass for not being completely historically accurate, as it is a movie.
I'm not trying to make trouble here, but it would almost seem that we are holding a higher standard for artists outside the faith, especially those critical of our religion and history, than for those with a sympathetic view or internal artistic connections.
I certainly think that we should point out inaccuracies when they are used in a defamatory manner, but perhaps it gives us maybe a better perspective on ourselves when we are tempted to overlook omissions or incorrect statements that perhaps are more convenient for us?
Comment by kevinf — November 19, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
Kevin: Thanks for your comment. I can see how you'd look at it that way. You're probably right that we go easier on Mormon pop culture than on anti-Mormon pop culture.
Although The Enchanter and September Dawn motivated this post, it ultimately is an examination of the primary sources behind the quote. If I were to completely rewrite the post, I think I would leave out the commentary on the comic book and September Dawn and put in more information concerning the 1838 context from which the statement (allegedly) came from.
As for the other post, I would hardly characterize my review as giving the Emma Smith movie "a free pass." Much of the review dwells on the historical inadequecies and omissions from the film. I did try to point out good things from the film however, and in doing so it may have come across as being too positive. If I were to point out ever flaw in the Emma Smith movie, that post would have been far too long and no one would read it.
Comment by David Grua — November 19, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
No argument from me. I just thought that the pairing of the two threads was interesting. If anything, the higher standard should apply to us. I was not aware of the Chick comics, and having looked at them, find them both simplistic and annoying. But then, such are the times we live in. It would appear that Romney's candidacy has brought out every nut, along with a few honest critics in a flurry of religious bigotry which can only be compared to the current antipathy for all things Muslim.
Thanks for the post, though. It's always interesting to me to see how some of these quotes like this are best understood in their real historical context. Too often, they are used in an inflammatory way. It's good for us to have the background.
BTW, your blog is now # 2 on my reading list, after BCC. And kudos to Stapley for helping with the format. Looks great, and keep up the good work.
Kevin: It is an interesting coincidence that I paired the posts that way. That was, of course, not intentional.
Thanks for the kind words. We appreciate your well-prepared comments.
Kevinf #7:
Thank you for this comment. It reminds me of the need to be more charitable in how I approach everyone. I also think there is a place for saying "it just ain't so," even when I agree with the conclusions put forth. Good food for thought.
Comment by Ugly Mahana — November 20, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
" About six hundred years after Christ a prophet rose in Arabia, by the name of Mahomet… Mahomet continued preaching: there was nothing in his religion to license iniquity or corruption; he preached the moral doctrines which the Savior taught; viz., to do as they would be done by; and not to do violence to any man, nor to render evil for evil; and to worship one God…. They raised a superior force of 3000 men, and had a second fight with the prophet (in 626) who could scarcely muster 1200 men; his orders not being obeyed, his followers left the field, but the prophet was determined not to be beat from the track, and concluded to fight the battle alone: his intrepidity and boldness on the occasion converted a leader of the infidel army, named Khaled, and he subsequently made him his general and surnamed him the sword of God…. Now this man descended from Abraham and was no doubt raised up by God on purpose to scourge the world for their idolatry."
–George Albert Smith, 23 September 1855
"History abundantly shows the followers of Mahomet did not take the sword, either to enforce their religion or to defend themselves, until compelled to do so by the persecutions of their enemies, and then it was the only alternative that presented itself, to take up the sword and put down idolatry, and establish the worship of the one God… The Greek and Roman Churches, which have been called Christian, and which take the name of Christians as a cloak, have worshipped innumerable idols. On this account, on the simple subject of the Deity and His worship, if nothing more, I should rather incline, of the two, after all my early traditions, education, and prejudices, to the side of Mahomet, for on this point he is on the side of truth, and the Christian world on the side of idolatry and heathenism….Therefore, in that sense, in the very foundation of their creeds they are idolators; and instead of saying that Mahometanism prevailed against Christianity, and that Christianity was in danger of being done away by its prevalence, we would rather say, that where Mahometanism prevailed, it taught and established one truth at least, viz., the true and living God, and so far as this went, it did preserve people from worshipping idols….my rational faculties would compel me to admit that the Mahometan history and Mahometan doctrine was a standard raised against the most corrupt and abominable idolatry that ever perverted our earth, found in the creeds and worship of Christians, falsely so named…. Though Mahometan institutions are corrupt enough, and need reforming by the Gospel, I am inclined to think, upon the whole, leaving out the corruptions of men in high places among them, that they have better morals and better institutions than many Christian nations… So far as that one point is concerned, of worshipping the one true God under the name of Mahometanism, together with many moral precepts, and in war only acting on the defensive, I think they have exceeded in righteousness and truthfulness of religion, the idolatrous and corrupt church that has borne the name of Christianity."
–Parley P. Pratt, 23 September 1855
"I believe myself that Mahomed, whom the Christians deride and call a false prophet and stigmatize with a great many epithets-I believe that he was a man raised up by the Almighty, and inspired to a certain extent by Him to effect the reforms which he did in his land, and in the nations surrounding. He attacked idolatry, and restored the great and crowning idea that there is but one God. He taught that idea to his people, and reclaimed them from polytheism and from the heathenish practices into which they had fallen. I believe many men were inspired who lived after him and before him, who, nevertheless, did not have the Holy Priesthood, but were led by the Spirit of God to strive for a better condition of affairs and to live a purer and higher life than those by whom they were surrounded were living. But while this was the case it was the Spirit of God that did it."
–George Q. Cannon, 2 September 1883
Comment by Brad Kramer — November 21, 2007 @ 11:34 am
Thanks for the great quotes. I assume that they're all from the JDs?
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Comment by Ardis Parshall — November 21, 2007 @ 12:06 pm
yes, David. And those are just a few of the extant references.
Comment by Brad Kramer — November 21, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Great post, David. As a former history teacher, you highlight exactly what bothered me the most about the textbooks I had to use to teach all history – but especially the history of unpopular peoples.
I also see the same problem in the way that too many members buy into overly broad stereotypes about the beliefs and teachings of other Christian religions, but that is for a different thread.
Comment by Ray — November 21, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
This is great! This blog has fast become one of my favorite ones. This thread is really interesting, and thanks be to Brad for those quotes he brought. Of course, they kind of remind me of the old Purple Dragon 🙂 (ie. Missionary Guide) in the section on building common beliefs. They have an investigator say, "Yeah! I believe in the prophets, Abraham, Moses, Mohammed." This seemed to imply that Mohammed was not a prophet, yet it seems that it was not as clear to the early church that he wasn't. Very interesting, and probably could use it's own post.
Comment by Jacob M — November 21, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
On February 15, 1978, the First Presidency released a statement that read in part:
The great religious leaders of the world such as Mohammed, Confucius, and the Reformers, as well as philosophers including Socrates, Plato, and others, received a portion of God?s light. Moral truths were given to them by God to enlighten whole nations and to bring a higher level of understanding to individuals.
The Hebrew prophets prepared the way for the coming of Jesus Christ, the promised Messiah, who should provide salvation for all mankind who believe in the gospel.
Consistent with these truths, we believe that God has given and will give to all people sufficient knowledge to help them on their way to eternal salvation, either in this life or in the life to come.
This statement has recieved significant traction in Conference talks and in the Ensign. I think the natural reading of this statement is that God calls many as prophets.
Comment by J. Stapley — November 21, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Just as an aside, many members don't understand very well the distinction in the temple recommend interview between the Prophet and prophets, seers and revelators.
The OT and NT and BofM definitions and roles of "prophets" (and prophetesses) is very different than our modern definition of "the Prophet" – but quite consistent with our understanding of prophets. That distinction is important when discussing Mohammed, Confucius, Ghandhi, Martin Luther, Martin Luther King, etc.
Comment by Ray — November 21, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
Ray, that is why I tend to view the term "President," which is the official title of our Church's leader as superior. One isn't ordained or set apart as "Prophet."
Actually, J. Stapley, all the apostles are sustained as "prophets, seers and revelators". Are you sure that the ordination of an apostle does not include either ordination or setting apart to those offices?
Comment by Mark B. — November 21, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
Mark, no doubt that the First Presdency, Q12 and Presiding Patriarch have been sustained as "prophets, seers and revelators." Perhaps such verbiage is used in their being set apart. Unless I am mistaken, however, I don't believe that there is an office of Seer or Revelator.
It has been a while, but the Q12 and FP used to be ordained as Apostles then set apart in their various quorums and callings. Then it seems to me that it was McKay that was the first to be ordained as President since Joseph. Anyway, I'm not sure how much that really matters. I don't think that the attributes of a calling become offices themselves. No?
Comment by J. Stapley — November 21, 2007 @ 10:29 pm
Mark, J was making the "Upper Case Prophet" point that I made in regard to the temple recommend interview. In that interview, the question as written distinguishes between "the Prophet" and the other prophets, seers and revelators. Many members don't realize that the first is capitalized, while the other is not. Gordon B. Hinckley was not set apart and sustained as the "Prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" – but rather as the "President of the Church . . ." The interview draws attention to the fact that he is the presiding prophet and needs to be supported by the temple attending members as such, but the requirement for the general membership is only support of his role as President.
That's a truly interesting distinction, imo.
Smith did have a military streak and a temper that could overflow into violent self defense. It's important, though, to situate all of this within antebellum Christianity. Many Protestants saw their form of Christianity as true _because_ it was dominant–their cultural superiority in the United States was an "external evidence" of the validity of their brand of Christianity. Islam was known to be a major world religion, which would tend to interfere with this external evidence, so explanations of Mohammed emphasized that he required violence to establish his hold in various countries. He was, of course, an "impostor" or "false prophet," situated among a litany of para-Christian false prophets, so Protestants merely had to deal with the issue of Islam's numerical predominance elsewhere to discount him entirely.
Joseph Smith was in a similar position, having to argue with Protestants about the 'evidences' of his authority. Characterizations of Mormons as violent not only served to justify anti-Mormon violence, it also served to join him to the history of violent false prophets, thus negating the 'evidence' of Mormon validity manifested by their growing popularity and their distinctive appropriation of the Biblical witness.
Comparisons to Mohammed would have been a natural part of this battle against evangelicals for Christian legitimacy, and defending Mohammed would have been important as an act of intellectual self defense. I have a memory of better 1840s source for discussions of Mohammed but will have to look for it.
Incidentally, Matt Bowman and I are working on a paper on these issues that should be done in a few weeks. I recommend Spencer Fluhman's PhD dissertation from some insight into the nature of the early anti-Mormon dialectic–large numbers of critics were comparing Smith to Mohammed among others.
Comment by brown — November 22, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
Sam: Thanks for bringing Fluhman into the discussion. I agree that that context is important to consider here.
Where are you and Matt going to submit the paper?
Thanks to David and Justin for putting together this collection of quotations. Smith's alleged comment was apparently at the very end of June, just after the dissenters were driven. It fits, then, just between Rigdon's late-mid June Salt Sermon and his 4 July Independence Day sermon–both of which Smith apparently approved of. Marsh's claim that Smith said "he should yet tread down his enemies, and walk over their dead bodies" sounds like the "good for nothing but to be trodden under foot of men" language of the salt-having-lost-its-savor parable. The alleged statement along the lines of "if the people would let us alone" we would do likewise but if not I will become another Muhammed and conquer them follows precisely the warning the Rigdon gave on the fourth of July (minus the Muhammed analogy). Rigdon said that if attacked again the Mormons would carry the war to the door of their enemy. The question then arises of who is the enemy. The logic of the redeeming Zion revelation (now D&C 101) begins with the offending Missouri county and its judge, moves through the state governor, and ends with the President and the United States (which at that time stretched from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean). This was the extreme possible outcome of combining the redeeming Zion revelation and the 4th of July sermon. As Marsh puts it, "so should it be eventually with us". So I can imagine the possiblity of Smith saying SOMETHING along these lines. Exactly what is hard to say. The salt sermon rhetoric applies better to dissident insiders than to outsiders so I wonder if Marsh has spliced that in. In all but the Corrill account, the "if the people would let him alone" line is too consistent and probably shaped by memories of the later oral delivery and printed version of the Independence Day sermon. The account by Corrill, usually a more balanced voice of dissent (compare Reed Peck), sounds the least accurate to me. He applies the Mohamet line to establishing the gospel and making converts by force. That's not Smith.
Comment by Mark Ashurst-McGee — November 24, 2007 @ 12:04 pm
Mark: There is some support for your reading of Corrill's statement in Orson Spencer's letters. Spencer here is addressing critics that compare the legion and its commander to Mohammed. Spencer doesn't refer directly to Corrill (whose November 1838 testimony was by this time available in print), but the language closely reflects Corrill's claim.
I can assure you that neither Mr. Smith, nor any other intelligent Latter Day Saint, ever intends to make one convert by the sword. (Times and Seasons, January 2, 1843, 57)
Though Joseph Smith is dressed up in Nauvoo Legion attire, the Chick comic book (unlike what you allege for the movie "September Dawn") actually gets the date right for the alleged words of Joseph Smith.
P. 22 of The Enchanter talks first about February of 1834. The middle panel begins, "Over the next four years Joseph tried to build his army…" That adds up to 1838.
P. 23 of The Enchanter doesn't give a date, but it can be assumed it is still 1838, because two pages later (p. 25)it talks about Nauvoo, saying, "By 1839 they settled in Illinois and built a city called "Nauvoo."
So while these Gentiles may have erred in the form of dress Joseph wore, unlike the movie "September Dawn" (as you allege), they got the *date* right: late 1838, vs. 1844 at the destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor (which is found on p. 28, panel 1 of their comic).
Further, I found Chick Publications did what they could to document their claims on their website at this page:
http://www.chick.com/catalog/comics/0118doc.asp.
What they wrote on that panel online is this:
PAGE 23, panel #3
Joseph's "Second Muhammad" speech
On October 14, 1838, Joseph Smith called himself a "second Muhammad" as he was concluding a speech in the public square at Far West, Missouri. Those words have been verified by affidavits from Thomas B. Marsh,69 Orson Hyde (from Joseph's Quorum of the Twelve), George M. Hinkle, John Corrill, W.W. Phelps (a major leader in the Mormon church), Samson Avard (founder of the Danites), and Reed Peck.70
69For the full affidavit of Thomas B. Marsh, see The Rocky Mountain Saints by T. B. H. Stenhouse (New York: D. Appleton and Company, 1873), pp. 89-90. Available as a free download from http://www.books.google.com.
70 See No Man Knows My History, pp. 230-231. See also "I Will Be a Second Mohammed" at http://help4rlds.com/Mohammed.htm.
I can be a little more charitable when I see an unbeliever has at least made an effort to get at facts, whether erroneous or not.
Check it out for yourself and see what you think.
Comment by OB Server — November 29, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
Please pardon my error. I added a period at the end of the weblinks. I didn't know the post would act differently from a Word doc or the Chick website. They should say this:
http://www.chick.com/catalog/comics/0118doc.asp
http://www.books.google.com
http://help4rlds.com/mohammed.htm
Sorry for the messed up links. This is new to me!
OB Server: Thanks for the comment. Let me just say that the documentation provided is severely flawed, but I'm really not interested in engaging it at this time.
That's an interesting IP address that you're writing from. Say hi to Jack Chick when you see him, from the Juvenile Instructor.
I really admire the careful construction of the language used in the quotes in Brad's #12. All three are clear about the inspiration behind Islam as coming from God to face down the idolatry of apostate Christianity while not endorsing Mohammad as a true prophet. There is much that I have read in the Koran that I can endorse, but equally there are many things that stand in opposition to the Gospel, particularly in the nature of the Savior. "Allah has no companion." The biggest obstacle to teaching the Gospel to Muslims, however, is their insistence that Mohammed is the seal of the prophets.
Comment by Eric Boysen — December 1, 2007 @ 4:27 pm