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The Thranduil Appreciation Thread...
Rowan Greene
Jan 26 2014, 10:03pm
Get your Thranduil fix here. Share your favorite scenes, dialogue, and pictures.
Thranduil's Thralls: CurseOfFeanor, Eowyn of Penns Woods, elf-lady, Rowan Greene, Eruvandi, MouthofSauron, Roheryn*, Thranderz, (anyone else)?
*Also loves Thorin as in channeling Bella Swan / Katniss Everdeen and up for a love triangle.
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Rickster
The scene of his destroyed face is the best scene in the history of cinema
The way he shows the Dwarf king that he faced the serpents of the north was FANTASTIC.
The whole cinema was in a loud AWE when it happened.
Luckely it is on Youtube too and we can watch it several times a day and it never get's boring.. how you see the muscles and bones appear and dissapear .. and the look in the eyes...
It makes DOS my favorite movie of all times too.. among with many other scenes.. This was brilliant
MouthofSauron
perfectly cast and portrayed !!
Can't wait for more in TABA.
Eruvandi
There's a motherload of drool-worthy Thranduil pics on deviantART
My applause to these wonderful artists! http://www.deviantart.com/?q=thranduil
"And we find what we're made of
Through the open door
Is it fear you're afraid of?
Love alone is worth the fight."
-Switchfoot
He is mesmerizing...
And Pace was phenomenal in the role. My favorite scene was 'One King to Another'--the Thorin and Thranduil standoff. I said this in another thread but it was like watching earth battle fire/air. Thorin is like this giant immovable boulder whereas Thranduil is as unpredictable as a wildfire. Mercurial, mesmerizing, wild, regal, beautiful, magnificent, and haughty.
@Rickster: Pace suggested in a French magazine interview that the "scar scene" was his idea. It wasn't definitive but based on his comments, I believe he was referring to that particular scene. I had no idea!
Bernhardina
The most beautiful elf is Thranduil
Lee Pace with that blonde wig is the closest thing to an angel in the history of cinema. They did a great job with his costume and make up. And Lee Pace is a great actor, he totally dominates the scenes with that elven grace and sense of inner strength and old age. I love how they portrayed Thranduil overall, it's a lot like I imagined him in the book. My favourite scene with him is the first time you see him, the close-ups of his eyes, crown, staff and jewellery... it's just so beautiful.
I do hope there's more Thranduil in the EE. I would love to see a scene with him and Legolas where they are more gentle towards each other.
I can't wait to see Thranduil in BoFA. He looked amazing in that elven armour we saw in the vlog
And now, WARNING, fangirling below...
OOOMMGGGG THRANDUIL IS STUNNING AHH I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Avandel
We were robbed...
of the cape swirl
Favorite line "Some may think a noble quest is at hand. The quest to reclaim a homeland, and slay a dragon. I myself suspect a more prosaic motive.....attempted burglary, or something of that ilk". Snark, snark. I just love that whole scene, including Thranduil's wounded expression when Thorin blows his stack (as though not in thousands of years it would occur to him that someone might be MAD at him, tho Thranduil comes right back....)
And because you can't have too much Thranduil sass and attitude:
IMO an elegant, effective way to show Thranduil's back story - was a perfect touch (and also noticed my guy Thorin didn't flinch). And added to the mystery of Thranduil, and his power.
So excited...
For the DoS EE--lots more Thranduil--and TABA / Bo5A--Thranduil in action. His "intro" scene with the cutaway shots was brilliant. It whets your appetite for whats to come and he doesn't disappoint.
Love that line too!
And this picture (but then I like all of them):
I have one word for that armor...
Ba-bam!
my two fave Thrandy pics
That second one...
...is NEW to me so you get bonus points!!!!
Keep them coming......
It's a screen cap I got from vlog 12
I love how his eyes look in that one!
He looks different but totally Thranduil.
This one is cute too:
His laugh is so adorable! XD //
CathrineB
I want to jooooin this love feast!
Why don't you add me to that list, aye?
You used the perfect word down there to describe him. One I have used around too. Mesmerizing! Captivating. I found myself unable to take my eyes off him when I first saw the movie because there were all these tiny small changes to his expression that was perfect.
My very favorite moment was when the camera zoomed in on him when Thorin shouted at him. His face going from shocked and almost hurt like expression to a fraction of a second you see a sneer before he's in Thorin's face.
I just loved the hurt look on his face because I didn't expect to see it. This stone cold elf suddenly showing all these emotions.
Lee Pace is amazing though so I wasn't surprised that I loved him. Such a versatile actor. I mean, to even think that this is the same guy that is the adorable pie maker in Pushing Daisies? It's unheard of!
The Thralls.....
Thranduil's Thralls: CurseOfFeanor, Eowyn of Penns Woods, elf-lady, Rowan Greene, Eruvandi, MouthofSauron, Roheryn*, Thranderz, CathrineB, (anyone else)?
I have one more person here who wants to be added to the list...
Kili likes Thrandy too!
Eowyn of Penns Woods
Those intense blue eyes were as riveting as the Eye of Sauron in a Palantir, and as the camera pulled back... O.M.G. ...He. Is. Mag-NIF-icent! went through my mind and almost out through my mouth. Then he spoke, and I had to try not to gasp for breath. Pwned!
I felt like Sam when Frodo asked what he thought of Elves after spending time in Lothlorien : "I reckon there's Elves and Elves. They're all elvish enough, but they're not all the same." Indeed, they are not! I never dreamed I'd go gaga for an elf!
NABOUF
Not a TORns*b!
Certified Curmudgeon
Knitting Knerd
NARF: NWtS Chapter Member since June 17,2011
It was the epitome of eye-candy
The Ultimate Elf!
There's only ONE King!
*is rendered speechless again* //
You almost miss that sneer because the camera shifts to Thorin so quickly but it's such a great moment. I loved the expressions that cross his face during the Thorin exchange. But you're right: you can NOT take your eyes off him. He made such a huge impact despite having very few scenes.
You can sometimes see Ned in Thranduil and vice-versa (subtle facial gestures). He's also brilliant in The Fall and Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day. He's just brilliant period.
(This post was edited by Rowan Greene on Jan 27 2014, 1:17am)
SirDennisC
Pretty sure it was inspired by a scene between M and Silva in Skyfall.
Either way, glad you liked it.
That is one amazing looking elf right there :3 //
Actually, I should be in that list
I've denied it for too long. Googling pictures of him and everything, though totally in denial... but not anymore. CaN'T... StOP... IT.... *sigh* Thranduil is too much for me. I blaim Lee Pace for bringing him to life too perfectly.
The thralls...
Thranduil's Thralls: CurseOfFeanor, Eowyn of Penns Woods, elf-lady, Rowan Greene, Eruvandi, MouthofSauron, Roheryn*, Thranderz, CathrineB, Bernhardina, (anyone else)?
wonderinglinguist
Those eyes
That's really what it comes down to, his eyes! They are just amazing. When he talks about the gems and they take on that sparkle/gleam --love that part!
I'm really coming to appreciate Lee Pace more and more. Among my initial thoughts after seeing the film for the first time was that he was the perfect Thranduil! I've actually been looking into some of his other work since seeing him in DOS.
Good night my fellow thralls...
A final Thranduil pic to drool over...
the influence of the Peckish Owl has spread across the world.
CurseOfFeanor
Yeaaaahh...
just.. need.. a bookmark right here xD .. NOW :D I'll share/post some stuff later on.. in the meanwhile I drool at work.
Tthanks Rowan for this VIP-Thread
Obsessed with the Silmarillion, book purist & Thranduil junkie in one person ;)
Serving Middle-Earth since 1995
Barbarb
Oh my lord finally
After the Thorin thread from a few days ago, I've been thinking where is the Thranduil thread?! I'm so glad it's here.
I'm pretty sure I was leaning way forward on my seat the first time he appeared. I like how our first glimpse of him (in DOS) comes in the form of these little snap-shots of his character; the bejeweled fingers, the crown and then the eyes.
My favourite scene is the Thorin confrontation. Thrandy has so much gravity here, and I was thoroughly impressed with how he uses the space. He's almost bird-like in the way he kind of flits around and tilts his head.
Ok I really can't praise Lee Pace enough. He just looked stunning and gave a magnificent performance.
When the movie finished I told my friend he HAS to watch The Fall...beautiful abstract movie starring Mr Pace.
Nice pictures everybody!!!
elaen32
Definitive Elf...
While Thorin is "my man" (dwarf... whatever) and has been for years (well, RA has at any rate), Thranduil IS pretty impressive. He is what I always imagine male elves to be like when I am reading the books. Lee Pace is plays him very majestically, in his own way and is completely convincing imo The Elves are a little too androgynous for my taste- think it must be an age thing... I would definitely have been a Thranduilite in my 20's and early 30's
Is there a Tolkien topic that you have wanted to look into more deeply and write about your thoughts on it? If so, we'd like to hear from you for the next TORn Amateur Symposium- coming in November. Happy writing!
I figured we needed....
...our very own thread. (Or rather Thranduil deserved one of his very own!)
Thranduil appreciation thread at last!
Most of the words have been already used to describe the king of the woodland realm...majestic, mesmerising, mystical etc. I've never known any character to have this effect on me before...those eyes, that presence the way he talks and the way he walks, I haven't been a teenager for many a long year but I am in awe of him everytime he's on screen. I can't wait to see TABA because I love the hobbit films but would be a liar if I didn't have an alterior motive for watching it. Well done Lee Pace and Peter Jackson for nailing it..couldn't get a better Elf King. I want to see him and what he can do in battle we've seen what his son can do, so what can we expect from the king (he took off the orc prisoners head in a blink of an eye with his sword) I think he will be awesome! I like his son Legolas, I love watching him in action even though he can be a little OTT at times but he must have taken after his mothers side cos although he is cool he is certainly no 'chip of the old block'.
I agree, thank you Rowan I will be checking this thread often
Lee Pace...
...said in multiple interviews that Thranduil is "a game changer" in battle. So....can't.....wait!
http://fc03.deviantart.net/...bootslvr-d6bp619.gif
This is the one thread where we can let our inner fan girls out! LOL
I *hope* we get to see the scenes from the book, namely where he tries to convince Bilbo to stay with them for his own safety (after Bilbo presents the arkenstone to Bard/Thranduil), and later accepts the necklace from Bilbo as payment for his (unknown) hospitality, etc. I also hope we see him send aid to Lake-town following Smaug's attack so people will stop labeling him a jerk!
(This post was edited by Rowan Greene on Jan 27 2014, 11:15am)
some pics
Oh I simply love the intro .. here it comes xD
I like how our first glimpse of him (in DOS) comes in the form of these little snap-shots of his character; the bejeweled fingers, the crown and then the eyes.
..and some more :)
THANKS FOR THAT!!!!
Now I can leave for work happy, with thoughts of Thranduil in my head.
Not too bad, eh? :D I'm actually wasting my lunch break for it right now.. instead of grabbing some food
I love kinko-whites drawings
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That red coat
I swear that red coat is my favorite costume in the whole movie which says a whole lot. Red looks like really good on him and I hope he wears it at a point in TABA.
I personally think the armor he wears (TABA) looks really weird though. I need to warm up to it. Hopefully it looks better on screen (which things usually do).
AND I also like when he's not wearing the crown actually though it's a pretty cool one.
Anyway what I think I love so much about Lee is his ability to do such subtle emotions. Like when he's denied the casket in AUJ EE. So little happens with him, but at the same time so much happens in his eyes.
(This post was edited by CathrineB on Jan 27 2014, 12:37pm)
Eleniel
Yes, thanks, Rowan - made my day!!
Here's my small contribution...note the different design for the woodland crown in the second picture!
"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
� Victoria Monfort
If you like White's pictures, you may like...
...the art by Kimberly80 on DeviantArt
elf-lady
Late to the thread but...
I'm here now! Thanks Rowan Greene for starting this thread! I can't wait to see TABA to see more of Thranduil and his game changing ways! I also want to see those moments with Bilbo and having Bilbo wanting to stay with Thranduil to protect him.
It's funny because I've always been a Legolas fan since way back when (ages ago really) and can clearly remember gasping when I saw him in the FOTR trailer. He was everything I'd imagined an elf to be. I'll always love Legolas (even if I think he's a bit ridiculous in DoS) but I've definitely fallen hard for his father. Lee Pace did an absolutely smashing job in the role. When he is on screen I cannot take my eyes off him AT ALL. Actually I'm like that whenever I see Pace in anything (Pushing Daisies, Wonderfalls, Possession, The Fall, Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day). Maybe PJ knew the effect Thranduil would have on all of us and just gave us enough to whet our appetite. If so, we thralls are ready for the main course PJ! Bring it on!
Now, how many adjectives can I come up with to describe Thranduil?
Imposing
Majestic (yes this has been used to describe Thorin and I don't disagree but it also fits Thranduil!)
*You'll have to excuse me for I've fainted and this is my cat typing for me*
The Grey Elf
Interesting observation about Thrandy being "bird-like"
As though LP really uses his neck in his performance in the scene with Thorin. However, given the way he darts his head in and out, I would liken his movements more to being serpentine. Don't you think his movements resemble Smaug just a tad?
I cannot declare myself a thrall to Thranduil (Thorin, I'm still all yours ), BUT I like him very very much and am impatiently waiting to see more if him in TABA.
And I think the cutaway pan shots of him are the best visual introduction of a character since hooded Strider and his glowing pipe in FOTR.
Elanor of Rohan
and as I have already said
mindblowing
when he slowly turns around and tilts his head slightly backwards, permitting us to admire
1. the crown
2. the eyebrows
3. his penetrating gaze
hobbitylass
I'm not able to post much here these days, but I continue to be an ardent appreciator of all things Thranduil.
Can't wait for all the Thranduily goodness I'm expecting to be in the DOS EE.
Twirl that cape, you sassy thing, you!
Newbie here - couldn't resist this thread!
What a wonderful thread - I thought I'd seen most Thranduil pics, but thanks to you good folks on here, it's wonderful to see more which are new to me!
Like you elf-lady, I was an ardent Legolas fan from the LOTR trilogy, but Thranduil has certainly elbowed his son out of my affections! I thought I would be delighted at seeing more Legolas in DOS, but I found myself longing for more Thranduil scenes and wishing Legolas had had a cameo role similar to that of Frodo - i.e. a decent nod, but not too overbearing. LP's Thranduil seems to be growing in popularity and I hope PJ takes this on board when compiling the EE, and considering Thranduil's exposure in TABA.
Having seen the pic of Bard with Legolas, I do have a niggle that Legolas will do the leg-work (pardon the pun!) with the Elves involvement in Laketown, and basically take scenes that would originally have been Thranduil's, as PJ/the studio seem to think Legolas is the be-all-and-end-all for all film fans.
I really want to see Thranduil shine on the battlefield. According to LP, he's supposed to be the best swordsman in Middle Earth - I certainly want to see him showcase that, rather than be reduced to a hanger on of Legolas. It should be the other way round.
Thranduil first turned my head when the trailers came out, and his deliciously rich, smooth, velvety voice came out on the voice-over. I was hooked with the voice before I saw the face. The whole package is amazing. LP's height adds the final touches as he towers over everyone else.
I've taken an interest in LP's work since June of last year, and have enjoyed The Fall and Pushing Daisies in particular. I have to say his English accent has greatly improved since he filmed Miss Pettigrew Lives For a Day, where it sometimes veered between Northern English with a hint of Scottish! As an English person, I find his accent in DOS more than passes muster! I noticed in in the B-Roll online video that he was still pronouncing 'endure' with an American accent, but had swapped the pronunciation for a perfect English one for the final take.
Happy to be among fellow Thranduil appreciators!
His voice during this scene got to me
The slight pained exhalation of breath when Thranduil says"I have faced the great serpents of the North" was brilliant. Thorin looks stunned into silence.
ETA: The confrontation between Thorin and Thranduil in this scene will be contrasted nicely at the end of Bo5A when Thranduil lays Orcrist upon Thorin's tomb (PJ better show this and not give this to another character).
(This post was edited by elf-lady on Jan 27 2014, 5:29pm)
just my 2 cents :)
So.. finally back from work with some time to spend. Unfortuantely the "quote"things makes some problems..
aww. I do so love this scene.. especially THAT arrogant look, aye thorin is small but still it has this "i look down on you, even if you would be 2 meters" .. gosh. I'm lost :D
Oh me too, i could watch this scene from the EE a thousand times without getting bored (and I'm pretty sure I've almost reached the 1000 times). That was also the reason why I created this chroma keying imagine with the sparkling blue eyes. I love chroma keying itself and the eyes were just so very perfect for it so I tried :D .. there are some chroma-keying gifs also around (although I think the blue is too turquoise)
I really wished I would have more time to create some photoshop based fanart but I'm so busy *sob*
This one, and the chroma key thing are the only ones I did so far (which annoys me a little)
For me it's pretty funny as I love RA as actor since that Robin Hood stuff a looong time ago and as Mr. Thornton in N&S he's just so very perfect .. but as Thorin.. I don't know, i do not really warm up.. no idea why, honestly, it's so strange. The voice is still amazing, yes, even better than in the BBC-series but I lack something (and I cannot even tell what it is).
I'm not sure if it an age thing, in my early 20ies when the LotR movies came out I was so into beardy, dirty rangers .. gosh.. (and that has not really change, I still love Aragorn.. but only the strider one, the king-one is rather boring)
an elf? blond? naaay, never xD I never liked Legolas much (it still has not changed), he was always way too nice and so on.. but I'm lost on his Ada . Would anybody have told me .. I would have been: *huuuge eyes* LOOL naaay, never.. and now? I'm totally in this fandom thing again, worse than ever before.. that's so bad, really, I lack the time to do so
Oh I really have to check this out, thanks :)
So.. let's come to things I'm really looking forward
for the EE
- I want to see the interaction between Legolas and Thranduil, the scene from the B-rolls, where both are standing & it looks like if they have an argument. I think *possible spoilers* that Legolas did not rush immediately after Tauriel out of the palace but went to his dad to report that Tauriel went missing and tries to convince him, that he can join her (or he + other elves should join and aid).
Reasons why I think so:
- Legolas wears different garments when he meets Tauriel at the river
- Legolas says "the king is angry" - how would he know if he would have rushed directly after her?
Ohh.. I would dye for that scene, really!
Also I have the impression that the Thorin/Thranduil scene is longer, it seems (for met) cut at the beginning.
And I want to see how his red coat lands on the throne. it must be in. it MUST !
For TABA
- fighting... YEAAAH.. but please no weird-PJ-fighting (Legolas surfing down the stairs & the Mumakil).. more the Aragorn-fighting style
- the reaction when Bilbo gives him the necklace.. Awww.. I literally can see the gaze.. *drools*
- if Legolas calls him Ada I will be f**** freaking out in the cinema, really
Err.. I think that was kind of long.. and to end it: some pics for you
This was posted with the header "other lands are not my concern"
Welcome Thranduiliel
Welcome Thranduiliel to the boards at TORn!
What a lovely description of LP's voice! It is indeed velvety and smooth. *fans self*
OMG right there with you!
..Ada..
Ohh.. I am not alone xD
Im soooo totally into this "Ada" thing.. and the gorgeous fanart on tumblr does not help, either
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7rzkhNTIxE
I am giggling like a teenager!!
That's too funny! "You forgot your hat!" *BWAHAHAHA*
Nope, you're definitely not alone. That first one is so pretty and sweet. So much pretty all over Tumblr, dA and pixiv! http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag&word=thranduil (there may be images on pixiv not to everyone's liking [i.e. slashy] so viewer beware)
1:23 Dad, I wanna see the dwarves. No, Legolas, you might catch a beard...
2:16 not amoosed
2:41 Jack, sorry, Ori, draw me like one of your French girls...
I really love that intro. And I love those cartoons they are so cute
Agree w. serpentine
Which IMO is a good thing as it's too bad snakes get the bad rap - they are beautiful and do so much good re eating rodents etc.
When Thranduil twists his (long) body around Thorin to look at him is one of my favorite movements of Thranduil's - also reminds me of a sinuous, long-bodied feline. Just beautifully played, but then the whole scene is and wish there were more of it *sigh*.
Agree about wanting more of this scene
That appears to be unanimously faved. Fingers crossed for the EE!!
*Adjusts helmet* So, Thranduil fans, do U want MORE Thrandy and LESS T & L?
Because I think there's a lot of T & L fans on this thread. Personally I'm a [friendly] lurker in that until Thranduil appeared my attitude toward elves was "eh". And as a Thorin Thrall if someone's going to dis the Mountain King they had better be something special, which I found Thranduil to be. Not that I wouldn't have laughed if Thorin head-butt Thranduil, but seriously Thranduil to me is the epitome of every elven king leader-of-the-wild-hunt folklore story I have ever read. The Fisher King indeed.
So while I don't have raging objections to Legolas and Tauriel (at the moment) there IS only a limited amount of screen time. So, I'll say it - to me these two pale in comparison. For me anyway.
Think Legolas in particular is suffering in comparison to his daddy. And while my attitude is there can NEVER be too much Thorin and dwarves, assuming there's going to be elves, I want lots and lots of Thranduil, and save T & L stuff for the EE version.
But I figure elf lovers by default have more right to say than anyone. On the other hand, for me, I'd rather see the Mirkwood elves than spend a lot of time at Dol Guldur.
Hopefully I didn't forget anyone!
Thranduil's Thralls: CurseOfFeanor, Eowyn of Penns Woods, elf-lady, Rowan Greene, Eruvandi, MouthofSauron, Roheryn*, Thranderz, CathrineB, Bernhardina, hobbitylass, Thranduiliel, (anyone else)?
THRANDUIL RULES!!!
I'll don my flak jacket as well... ;-)
I want a LOT of Thranduil in TABA and wanted more of him in DoS. From the moment I first saw him I didn't want him to leave the screen. LOL
IMO, we got wwwaaaayyyyyy too much T & L (my apologies to those who enjoyed those two and their story arcs). Now, I would have welcomed more Thranduil / Legolas interaction as they so need to explore the father / son dynamic. Sans Tauriel... I don't want Thranduil to waste any more dialogue on trivial and unrelated matters like how Legolas thought she fought well / is fond of her / how he won't sanction the match. I want to hear more about their views, their agreements and disagreements, the sitch in Mirkwood, etc.
I agree--those other two elves pale in comparison. With any luck, Thranduil will be the center-stage-elf in TABA (as he should be)!!!
(This post was edited by Rowan Greene on Jan 27 2014, 10:26pm)
Oooh! Those are lovely
Those are some of the better Thranduil + Legolas pictures I've seen. I think their beautiful too and that means a lot coming from me because I don't usually like "anime" style artwork.
It's nice that someone's finally portrayed Thranduil as a kind, loving father. A lot of the artwork I've seen of Leggy and Thrandy seems to suggest that the artist assumes Thranduil would be a bad father who's arrogance and harshness with outsiders also translates to his parenting skills (ergo, they think he'd be kind of mean and condescending to Legolas too). I really don't like those and I don't think, (given some things Lee Pace has said about Thrandy's views on the sanctity of elven life and how they would therefore raise their children) that that would be the case at all.
1:23 is definitely my fave! <3 //
LOL! //
...for the welcome, elf-lady!
LP's voice is the vocal equivalent of chocolate. I think my favourite word uttered by Thranduil is 'prosaic' - never has that word had such an effect on me!
Those are fantastic!
You do some great work in Photoshop! Love, love, love the blue eyes..... THANK YOU!!!
I think we're all looking forward to the same scenes in TABA and on the EE. I hope they don't make us wait a year for the EE (again). So disappointing......
- if Legolas calls him Ada I will be f**** freaking out in the cinema, really Angelic
More Thrandy please
I'm hoping that the DOS EE will focus more on the Thranduil missing scenes (and Beorn) as the second half of the film needs no expansion IMO.
There should at least be Thranduil's introduction to all the dwarves, and a confrontation with Legolas after Tauriel leaves. Any more will be very welcome.
T & L certainly need no expansion either, for me. I think they have more than enough screen-time. I'm happy with what they have, but wouldn't welcome any more unless it involves Thranduil.
..but the gif is not mine :) it's the photo i posted on page 2
Prosaic
I know! It's the way he just enunciates everything and *swoon*...pardon me. I've got a bit of a voice fetish so Thranduil just torques my wing-nuts.
I definitely want more Thranduil and less Tauriel and Legolas. As a Legolas fan I never thought I'd say that but I don't want to just watch meaningless gags with him surfing on the enemy or some such. I wouldn't mind Legolas aborting his chase after Bolg because he realizes Laketown needs protection and aid from the orcs (not to mention a dragon bearing down on them) and riding hard for Mirkwood to tell his father the men of the lake need help. I seem to recall something from the B roll where Legolas (we see his back) is striding towards Thranduil (who is wearing his robes and has a staff).
*snerk*
I like that! I like it a lot!
Oops, forgot something...
Wow, it was harder to find that gif than I thought it would be, but just scroll down the page a little. It's there. http://francesandlynne.wordpress.com/...ion-of-smaug-part-2/ Oh, yes. I do love it so!
I'm a little conflicted (Rowan, you'll need to update your list for this one)
I agree Thranduil needs to be the main elf in TABA but I still like L & T as individuals so I don't want them to go away entirely. That and I've had a powerful crush on Legolas since I first saw the LOTR movies last summer. (Rowan, you can put an asterisk next to my name on the list because I'm creating a love triangle by being a Thrandy Thrall AND a Legolas Lassie! ) Seriously, the majority of the Leggy pics make me swoon nearly as much as the Thrandy pics! My fave:
And my second fave:
How about this: I'd like more Leggy/Thrandy moments in the DOS EE, plus a one or two in TABA, Tauriel can finish out her story with a limited amount of screen time(preferably without dying), but Thrandy gets the majority of the elven moments all to himself. That would work just fine for me.
(This post was edited by Eruvandi on Jan 28 2014, 12:11am)
Either way....
...you're increasing my collection of Thranduil pics and vid clips.
I love the clip that goes with this pic but can't figure out how to upload a clip. ??? He is SO Thranduil in the clip--love how he gestures and speaks. Perfection.
Don't get me wrong.... I also love Legolas and adored him in LoTR. We've had our private chats so you know how I feel about Tauriel and her impact on Legolas in DoS. Personally, I would have preferred to see all Thranduil / Legolas interaction with no Tauriel involvement.
(I do wish they'd rethink the eye liner for DoS Legolas though.)
But I still consider you one of Thranduil's Thralls. You are in fact ENTHRALLED. But you can also be one of Legolas' Lasses.
And we're in agreement re: your closing comment! (As long as Tauriel has no impact on canon character story arcs, etc.)
Cillendor
Ugh that was the only part about him I DIDN'T like.
His real backstory is much more tragic than some silly little skirmish with the "serpents of the north", which he never actually fought. And for all the foreshadowing they've put into the Ring (which was lacking from the book), showing his father and most of their soldiers die in the Battle of the Last Alliance would have been a great way to show another, canonical parallel.
I didn't really get that scene or what they were trying to convey. I'd love a flashback to the Last Alliance and the losses he endured (including his father). That would give viewers much more insight into what drives Thranduil (and also fuels his isolationist policies), and it would increase the impact of his actions in TABA.
vanima ephel
Enthralled by, and open to being in thrall to, Thranduil
Usually, it takes a pairing to get my undivided attention, but Thranduil has latched onto it all on his own. (Though he does have fantastic chemistry with Thorin, I think I know how that'll end. )
Thank you, everyone, for this thread. So many gorgeous pics and great ideas. (And I, for myself, want more of all of that in the eventual EE and final movie!)
Legolas/Gimli artwork courtesy of Brianna
In fact, on my first viewing, when his face melted away, I found it really startling and distracting because it was totally unexpected and I had no idea why it happened. In fact, I missed some critical details in the next couple scenes because about all I could think for quite some time was "What the heck?!"
I've gotten past the shock factor and I now have at least seen the many unconfirmed theories that explain it so it's not so distracting, but it's the one thing about that scene that I don't like very much.
Edit: And for some odd reason, the top left gif on this page http://wifflegif.com/...35760-thranduil-gifs makes it all the more disturbing
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Totally agree more Thranduil and Legolas
"Now, I would have welcomed more Thranduil / Legolas interaction as they so need to explore the father / son dynamic."
To me this is MUCH more interesting than whether Legolas likes Tauriel, which didn't work for me anyway - it's not as tho it was bad acting or anything, but it's some intangible thing. I BELIEVED in Thranduil. I believed in Thorin, Bilbo, and Balin. I believed in Tauriel and Kili.
But Legolas and Tauriel felt more as tho Legolas was acting (more like Tauriel and Legolas were brother and sister) - was not bad but I think interacting with Lee Pace would play to Bloom's strengths - and anyway it's an interesting theme, watching the father whose orders you always followed, who is a mighty ancient king, confronting some ancient rising darkness, and Legolas is in the middle of it too.
So maybe that is being saved for last? EL did say that TABA wasn't going to be just battle after battle.
This is from a DoS review....
And it struck a cord with me. These conversations actually made me say "What the frick?" inside my head because I was like "WHO CARES!!!! Your kingdom is under attack, there's a dragon hanging out in Erebor, and you're wasting time on this nonsense!" Aaaarrgggghhhhhh..... I feel like they wasted such a great opportunity.
All the interactions with Thranduil, Legolas, and Tauriel. They seemed to talk more about how fond Legolas is of Tauriel than of anything that actually mattered. I never talk in the theater, but at one point I remember doing this exactly (whispered of course):
(She inserted a GIF featuring Harrison Ford saying, "Who gives a poop?" except he used a different term. )
Thranduil, you don�t have anything better to do than to discuss who Tauriel has a crush on, are you kidding me? Legolas was brought into this movie because he�s Thranduil�s son, yes? Why. Don�t. They. Act. Like. It. Why. Don�t. They. Elaborate. On. That. On the canon characters in the movie. Why are we talking about things that don�t matter!?
Source: http://boxlunches.tumblr.com/...maug-and-why-i-didnt
Na Vedui
It may be a copyright issue
...like the names of the blue wizards. I'm not sure, but suspect Thranduil's backstory may be in "Unfinished Tales" (with the stuff about Galadriel & Celeborn) rather than in LOTR or TH - if so, they can't use it. There's certainly some Thranduil info in UT.
True....
A lot of his back story is in UT. Plus, there's quite a bit in the Silmarillion and maybe some in the Histories of ME too. (Not sure on the latter.)
Vanima Ephel!
This channel is all Thranduil all the time.
I think that's what really threw me.
I, too, find the general population of male movie elves too androgynous for my taste. And then this fabulous creature materializes before my eyes, larger than life on the screen...and though he is beautiful as only an elf can and should be...he spoke, and DAY-YUM! He was as masculine as Aragorn, but with better hair. And such hair! That was a hanging waterfall of moonlight on silk worthy of Henneth Annun, and fit to make even poor Barbie weep with envy! To be that beautiful and still so manly is a rare gift, and one that I always worshipappreciate.
Nimloth
Oh me! Definitely me!
Updated...
Thranduil's Thralls: CurseOfFeanor, Eowyn of Penns Woods, elf-lady, Rowan Greene, Eruvandi, MouthofSauron, Roheryn*, Thranderz, CathrineB, Bernhardina, hobbitylass, Thranduiliel, Nimloth, vanima ephel, (anyone else)?
Fionniel
Thranduil's Thralls.
Oh yes. Please, pretty please, add me to the list of Thranduil's Thralls. I too, am a newbie here. I have been lurking here for quite some time.I love the intelligent, insightful, knowledgeable,polite and fun posting on these threads.Great job done by the moderators, too. I just had to delurk for this. I can't resist any longer. I was utterly enthralled by the flawless portrayal of this magnificent, majestic Elven King.He is such a strong,complex and very maligned and misunderstood character. Unfortunately, both TH movies seen so far, as great as they are, have added to this. I am really hoping he will be seen in a better light in TABA where he shows such kindness, courage and true leadership. I have loved Legolas since TLOTR days, another perfect elf portrayal. I think though, that I love his daddy just a bit more. I have a thing for this royal elf family.
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Add me to that list plz
not so nice pics..
Gosh I'm so glad that I've not seen those pics, I couldn't stand them, really .. In my headcanon he's such a lovely father to that little elfling, protecting him from all evil things out there in the vast world. That's also what I see in the "there was nothing more he could tell me"-scene. He knows of what the orc speaks and does not want his son to know, wants to protect him :)
and welcome Fionniel:)
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Anduinel
I'm generally more a fan of book!Thranduil...
I will say, though that I do like that PJ took out one aspect of Thranduil's canonical backstory and massaged it make a bit more sense in context -- the racism. In the book, the Elvenking is down on all Dwarves for a jewelry commission gone sour, including his captives, though Thorin's folk weren't involved in that incident. The movie version, though, is responding to a deep insult (or possibly more, depending on what the ultimate significance of those white gems turns out to be) from a specific group of Dwarves, and he knows Thorin by sight. So, as far as the movie shows, his attitude toward Thorin's family isn't due to his hating all Dwarves, he's just got no use at all for Durin's line. I think that plays a bit better. That's how I account for Legolas' attitude as well, and reconcile the DoS version, who says he'd happily kill Thorin, with the Fellowship version, who's a little snarky, but not all that het up by Gimli's presence otherwise -- it's not that he hates all Dwarves, but he's got a decades-old grudge against the ones who (at the very least) insulted his dad and brought a dragon down on the land.
It also makes me think Thranduil's shock when Thorin starts ranting is less "How could anyone be angry with moi?" and more "WTF? On what planet were our folk still considered 'friends' after that game of keepaway he saw grandpa playing?"
Protecting Legolas.
Thankyou so much. Great to be here. I am enjoying this thread immensely. I also agree about that orc interrogation scene.You could see the slow realisation in his eyes of what the orc meant. Hence his barely masked fear and cold anger. He hated the orc for directly threatening his son, so bye bye orc head! He was only doing what any self- respecting elf would do to protect his precious elfling. I am in awe of how LP can emote so much with just his eyes while keeping his body so still. Classic elf behaviour. Yet another example of how well LP really understands the elven core of his character. I also love how he had full command of the situation. When he dismissed Tauriel harshly when she lost her self control with the orc. Slicing the orc's head off without looking and without endangering his son shows just how self-disciplined he is and what an expert he is with his sword and what heightened elf senses he has. Looking forward to his deadly swordsmanship in TABA. I thought it was a great touch the way he stomped on the orcs quivering body to stop it moving . I like what LP said in one of his interviews about Thranduil's character: " He is not bad he is just a badass."
Thranduil far better than Legolas
I mean, how could someone beahead an Orc more gracefully, without a hint of distress on his face and a completely effortless torsion of his body (I havent' seen his robes swirling, but they could have, and gracefully even then )
I think that this feat is much more difficult than any of his darling son's in LOTR (sorry Leggy, you know how much I like you, but that's a fact ).
Moreover, Lee Pace's trippings over his costume are both irrepressibly funny and endearing
thanks Pj for the EE specials.
Wow--a lot of people are registering JUST for Thranduil!
He has that effect on people.
Thranduil's Thralls: CurseOfFeanor, Eowyn of Penns Woods, elf-lady, Rowan Greene, Eruvandi, MouthofSauron, Roheryn*, Thranderz, CathrineB, Bernhardina, hobbitylass, Thranduiliel, Nimloth, vanima ephel, Fionniel, Nesse, (anyone else)?
Thranduil/ Thorin scene.
Yes, that is a superb scene full of tension,atmosphere and top notch acting but we only got half of it. There are parts of the rest of the scene in the vlogs. We got the beginning with the slow tease of his crossed thigh; his hand with the bling; the close up of the Autumn crown and silver-blonde hair and piercing sky-blue eyes with the thick, dark eyebrows. I think that gives a lot of character to his face. Why oh why did PJ and co. leave out that scene where he is draped, yes draped ! on his throne looking haughty and superior and luscious all at the same time and making snarky comments to the dwarves.Then he stands and does that super sexy cloak fling thing - oh my ! and descends the steps with perfect elegance snarking and sassing the dwarves as he goes.What were they thinking ?!!! Did they not think we would want to see that? Surely they realise how popular Thranduil has become and will restore the rest of this scene in the EE. I also want the scene where Thranduil is talking to Legolas, dressed in that gorgeous dark red cloak and holding his oak staff, to be in the EE. as we have seen so little of the Thranduil/Legolas dynamic.
do totally agree with you! In all points :D really want to watch the EE now! right NOW!
The Thrandy Effect.
Yep, he sure does have that effect. I can't get enough of our enigmatic Elven King - and thanks for adding me to the list. Yay !
We're all in agreement...
Thranduil was ripped off! And we, as viewers, were denied some fantastic Thranduil scenes--not only visually stunning ones but also some much needed character building scenes. Argh!
I hope they put all of this on the EE as it wouldn't even take up that much time (if time is the "issue").
I know I sound like a broken record, but I'm shocked and amazed they wasted the opportunity to explore the father / son dynamic. I mean, why else have Legolas in this movie? To be the jealous 3rd in a love triangle and bounce around on dwarf heads while killing orcs ala video game style? Srsly? It's the one major thing/decision I'll never understand, and it adds fuel to the fire for my dislike of a certain other character whose subplot was way too prominent, IMO. (Not to mention that Legolas would have been so much better had there been more father / son interaction v. the role he was given.)
Anyway, it makes me sad. We need a weeping emoticon...
EE. right now.
I hear you and feel your angst, too ! lol. I just hope we don't have to wait almost a year for the DOS: EE like we did for AUJ. That will be almost impossible for me !
When did they release the AUJ EE preview clips?
I'm glad there are some DoS clips on YouTube. At least we get some Thranduil while we wait for the DVD's release.
Can you just imagine what we might have seen had it not been for the copyright issue? It makes me cry! *wails*
when he comes on set...
people just clear out the way...
aaaaaawww
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49FqUCuoqFc
Thranduil was ripped off.
I so agree with you on this. I will never understand these decisions either. I am really hoping Thranduil will be more prominent in TABA and they will treat his character with the respect that he deserves.That includes giving him his full character arc as occurred in the book. You are so correct, too, about poor Legolas. I am so annoyed about how they have reduced him to a caricature! He is the king's son ! He would be his closest ally and confidant.We should be seeing a deep and meaningful conversation or two between them. Thranduil could use Legolas as a sounding board to help him come to his own conclusions about the decisions he must make. It would make for some powerful scenes especially if Legolas did not always see eye to eye with his father. I want these scenes in somewhere !
Welcome Fionniel!
I love LOTR Legolas for the way he comes to Aragorn's defense at the Council of Elrond, how he is saddened and bewildered by Gandalf's death in Moria and again with Boromir's passing, his mostly silent but deadly presence in defense of the fellowship, his "you look terrible" to Aragorn when he arrives at Helm's Deep, his teasing and growing friendship with Gimli capped by the beautiful "how about side by side with a friend" to him before the Black Gate. And finally being revealed in his beautiful glory as a prince during Aragorn's coronation. I will always be a Lass.
But this Lass was so taken aback by the way Legolas was treated by the filmmakers in TH. I agree with RG that they wasted a wonderful opportunity to let viewers see a father/son relationship that isn't just a military one. Oh how I'd love to hear Legolas cry "Ada! Why will you not aid [fill in the blank]!" and Thranduil reply "Ionneg, you do not understand. I would protect our realm from the Shadow and will not risk our people for the foolish actions of others". Can you just imagine?!
Love that clip!
RG pointed me to it yesterday (I think it was yesterday). Love the way he slides his sword into the sheath. So smooth and elegant.
ETA: This thread is moving FAST! LOL.
His transformation....
...from Lee Pace the actor to Thranduil the Elven God is nothing short of amazing. His movements, appearance, and the manner in which he delivers the lines--Pace blew me away. (He blew all of us away!)
It's hard to marry this character up with Ned the Pie Maker. I think even Pace was taken aback when he first saw (and heard) the trailer with his voice over. I recall an interview when he said something like, "That's me!" with amazement. He truly immersed himself in the character and he certainly mastered the elven movements. It was beautifully done. That's why I get so irritated when he's overlooked in reviews and interviews, etc.
Thankyou,elf-lady, it's fun to be here ! I can so imagine that. I would love to hear Legolas call Thranduil "Ada" but I would also love to hear Thranduil call Legolas" son" or the Elven equivalent. It would make their father/son relationship more personal and intimate and so, more believable. Maybe in their private time when they are not with the other elves. Oh well, let's hope we see it in one of the EE's or TABA.
Thranduil's hair.
I agree with you Eowyn of P W. That was the most poetic and stunning description of Thrandy's hair. I love how it is so long, down to his waist, but he is so masculine with it. The deep voice accentuates this. LP carries it off so well.
.. i think my son is ion-nin (i don't get the ^ correctly with the mobile) in sindarin.. awww.. i literally can hear the dialogue in my head. i think i have to search for some nice Fanfiction for that as Pj did not give us anything like that
and it is sooo good to see how lively this thread is
It seems it's ionneg (my son) in Sindarin
http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/elvish/phrases.html
http://www.realelvish.net/101_sindarin.html
Either way, I think we'd all love to hear Thranduil utter those words!
When/where did you see LP tripping over his costume? I seem to have totally missed it.
Not seen any tripping videos yet...
but I have read an interview where he said there probably wasn't a single take of him walking up the steps to his throne, while wearing the gold robe, where he wasn't falling over it. He said it was difficult to stay looking regal when he kept tripping over his frock!
Really sorry, can't remember which one it was, but I think I read it on one of his fansites.
Glorfindela
I agree that Thranduil was 'ripped off'.
However, I'm afraid I do not think there should be any 'deep and meaningful' exchanges between Thranduil and Legolas. Bloom simply does not have the acting ability to portray deep and meaningful parts, as is clearly evidenced even in his performance in LotR. He was fine in that because he was part of an ensemble cast and didn't have to do anything much except shoot arrows, slide and jump (via CGI), and play with knives.
Legolas also looks considerably older than Thranduil, which makes any appearances of these two characters together seem rather ludicrous.
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Maybe we'll get the video in the DOS EE appendices then
That's funny! Thanks for telling me about it and welcome to the message boards!
Need to liven things up...
...with some more Thranduil
And one more for good measure...
Oh, and this one too....
(Might a duplicate but who cares!)
for the warm welcome! Really is great to be among fellow Thranduil appreciators - he truly is a fabulous character played by a wonderful actor. I love reading LP interviews where he talks about Thranduil, and the latest DOS Award video clips were amazing, talking about his costume and presence on the set. Can't wait to see more of him in the DOS EE!
Ripping off Thranduil
I respect your opinion even if I don't necessarily agree. Despite any reservations people may have about Bloom's acting chops I would still want to see more exchanges between Thranduil and Legolas (rather than say with Tauriel). More between Thranduil and Thorin would have been even better!
You are too good to us RG!
Nice screenshots. We need MOAR Thranduil!
The gorgeous Lee Pace!
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costume tripping
Well, I think it is when they talk about the London scenes with Saruman and Pj recalls how Christopher Lee kept on tripping on Saruman's robes, adding (and a few images are also shown) that the same thing happened to Lee Pace with Thranduil's costume. I haven't double-checked it though but I'm pretty sure.
Tripping...
http://leepaceodyssey.tumblr.com/page/3
"Ask me what has been the biggest challenge in playing this role and I�d have to say it�s been walking up the stairs to my throne in the gold robe. I don�t think that there is a single take where I�m not treading on it and falling over. It is less than impressive when you are trying to look calm and regal and you keep tripping on your frock!"
� Lee Pace on Thranduil, Desolation of Smaug Official Movie Guide (via f-ili)
I think you're trying to kill me RG. *faints*
From the 2014 calendar:
Two gorgeous fellas - irresistible!
The cape fling...
Anyone else notice he's not wearing his crown and is also wearing something different under the robe (like another shorter tunic)? Hhhhmmmm...
No sign of that tunic in other shots where he's wearing the same ensemble. (Not that I'm looking that closely or anything. Ahem.)
Best shots are in the vid clip--no short tunic under the silver/gold robe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49FqUCuoqFc
Wow - when you think about it
"Your kingdom is under attack, there's a dragon hanging out in Erebor, and you're wasting time on this nonsense!" Aaaarrgggghhhhhh..... I feel like they wasted such a great opportunity."
It reminds me of the LOTR line "these hobbits will sit on the edge of ruin, and discuss the doings of their ancestors, and the pleasures of the table...." etc. Not an exact quote but it's amusing. But those are HOBBITS.
*Sigh* Nothing else for it, unless there are EE scenes w. Legolas and Thranduil - after all, a fairly big deal was made about Gandalf meeting Thrain (RA said so much was cut) and that was just not there, at all. So there's some hope.
Unless the movie at that time is pacing things, e.g. the whole scene Thranduil seems to be quite confident, the dwarves are bottled up, he's sure "kingdoms will rise and fall" but his people will be secure. I guess that is what we are supposed to get from that scene, that it's Tauriel who is agitating about the growing darkness in the form of the spiders - but it's hard for me to believe that Legolas, who is also roaming around Mirkwood, hadn't noticed there's an issue as well. And I think that's a HOLE, that Legolas as well isn't shown saying - "well, you know Dad, things in the forest aren't what they were, every day that passes things seem worse, more dangerous...."
I really love this photo, it's just soooo gorgeous .. I would love to have HD screencaps of some scenes, especially of the interrogation scene to play around ..and: As much as I do appreaciate the crown.. it's a nightmare for photoshopping xD
Fantasizing here - that's a scene where Thranduil finds out the dragon is aroused, and Tauriel AND his son have gone missing? I fantasize about that - seeing the Elf King in utter fury and getting ready to ride out to deal with things - think it would be epic and hark back to the "ride of the wild hunt" folklore. And Elf King in wrath. Prepare his "moose" - or horse maybe - and his armor!
I love that one too!
There are a lot of variations out there (background).... I prefer the B&W one. To think it came from a magazine shoot!
Empire mag image: http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/...aug_-_Forst_Page.jpg
LOL like Christopher Lee commenting in the Appendices re his robes
"This wardrobe is a *bleep* menace" - hysterical - but Mr. Pace, I'd say the same to RA when he commented about the heat of his costume - you guys look STUNNING. Just jaw-dropping. I am sorry you guys suffered under the lights, getting hurt, long hours but WOW. It's a wonder glass didn't shatter when you guys passed by - or the camera lens didn't crack.
And the sets didn't melt under your booted feet.
Can you imagine being on set with Pace dressed as Thranduil?
I would,
a) forget my lines,
b) forget my name,
c) forget where I was,
d) forget where I was going, and
e) not care about any of the above!
It reminds me of how they had to ask him to leave the set when Amy Adams was filming her scenes in Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day. Apparently, he distracted Adams so much she couldn't act out her scenes! LOL (Per interviews.)
This IMO makes absolute sense
"I wouldn't mind Legolas aborting his chase after Bolg because he realizes Laketown needs protection and aid from the orcs (not to mention a dragon bearing down on them) and riding hard for Mirkwood to tell his father the men of the lake need help."
Tho I don't know if Thranduil would be THAT eager to assist men, as someone who as seen ages pass - this is a really interesting question? Personally I don't think Thranduil would care, really, if Laketown got torched, BUT Tauriel is there. So assuming Legolas sees the dragon in the sky, would he not turn all the way around to help her? And Thranduil just knows the dragon is on the move, and then realizes Legolas and Tauriel are gone, and that's what gets Thranduil into things?
Most of all, I didn't want Legolas to end up at Dol Guldur, which to me is stretching things re having Legolas in every battle.
LP gets last laugh tho...
"He truly immersed himself in the character and he certainly mastered the elven movements. It was beautifully done. That's why I get so irritated when he's overlooked in reviews and interviews, etc."
Round the Internet there is a wave of approval, for not that much (not enough) screen time. I also wonder that (like the dwarves and MF were all this past summer) there's a real reason LP is kept off the grid, pretty much, re interviews. I already believe that PJ & co. are well aware of the impact LP has had - the question is, will the editing of TABA give the people what they want, e.g. lots of Thranduil?
For instance, (and Tolkien experts can weigh in here) just how long is Dol Guldur supposed to take, assuming the Lothlorien elves rescue Gandalf? That could happen pretty fast, considering Dol Guldur has been emptied. E.g., lots of screen time for Thranduil.
Legolas will ride back to Lake-town after Smaug's demise, note that he's dead and the town has been demolished, and ride home to tell his father the news. That's when Thranduil will march on Erebor.
If I have the timing correct, Smaug leaves Erebor around the same time Legolas sets off after Bolg. So he'll either see Smaug in flight and get back before he's killed or will get back after he's killed. Either way, he has news for Dad--the dragon is dead! So then he rides home (hopefully without Tauriel) to fill his father in and they set out for Erebor. (Of course en route, Bard asks Thranduil for aid and he complies before they all--elves and men--continue on to Erebor.)
No, I can't
As a Thorin fan at times I've idly wondered how the women on the crew could FUNCTION. And now Thranduil too. How are these people so CALM about it all? The voice work alone freezes me in my tracks "other lands are not my concern" - purr, purr. Of course, I'd have to be professional and all that - but I've noticed nobody ever bothers someone who is cleaning, especially if you look tired w. messy hair and have some rags and spray bottles.
So I'd be hanging around, sneaking around set pieces, "excuse me, I just have to get this spot off the floor......" That spot on the floor would have been REALLY CLEAN if I had been hanging around during the now-famous T & T scene.
And of course....
...that "spot" would be right next to Thranduil's perfectly shined boot. LOL
Wardrobe mistress
Of if you're in charge of Lee Pace's wardrobe where you constantly have to fluff or fix or what have you...having done costumes in my equity-waiver theater days I was always having to touch the actors.
ETA: oh! I'm in Bree!
I volunteer...
To brush out his hair before and between takes. I have a Thranduil hair obsession!
You need to get out of Bree. Lots of shifty characters and it's always raining.
to keep elven hair in order
during on-set-breaks they put it in stocking-like hairnets. Probably Rowan Greene would volunteer to brush Thranduil's hair after taking the hairnet off.
Have you noticed that all the costume and makeup assistants always seem to be standing on boxes when the have to fix Lee Pace?
LOL....
"...to fix Lee Pace..." Okay, that reminded me of dogs and neutering. (Sorry!)
Lee Pace is perfect and requires no fixing. But he's a tall guy--I think he's 6'3". He makes his costars look tiny.
yes, of course!
No real fixing, but just a bit of finishing touches.
By the way, according to IMDB he's really 6'3 and that would have made him the only actor taller than Prince William at the London Premiere of AUJ had he been there - but unfortunately he wasn't
For me re Thorin especially as I am enthralled, and Thranduil, if they stepped on me with those respectively amazing boots I'd squeal "oh thank you!" and just start clinging - either one would have to smack me with their sword "Get off, already!" - and then a couple of burly crewmen would haul me away with a glazed look on my face.
Of course when the judge let me out as a harmless trespasser I'd be back the next day with a clipboard, because nobody ever bothers someone who looks like they are checking something.
If he doesn't show up at the TABA premier...
I humbly volunteer to hunt him down and drag him there myself. Giggling like an idiot the whole way of course.
*wiping drool off keyboard and fanning myself*
Ohmigoodness, I think that just made me forget how to breathe! *swoons*
like that? xD
and that one please the other way round :D
Oh, YES!!
Just like that.... Can you imagine?!!
think of the makeup girl
who spent every day more than 2 hours with Thorin....
I hope that costumes and props from The Hobbit go on a museum tour like the LOTR items did. I went to see the LOTR exhibit in Boston back in the day and just about drooled all over everything. I remember seeing Legolas' costume and thinking "gosh this guy is skinny!".
Seeing Thranduil's various robes, cloaks, crowns and weapons would just about do me in. I want to sit on Thranduil's lap antlered throne!
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I wonder what Thranduil is like when he interacts with humans?
We've seen how he acts around his own people and we've seen how he acts around people he hates (dwarves) but Lake-Town will be the first elf/human interaction in the whole Hobbit trilogy if I'm not mistaken. I wonder how they will portrait the relationship between the elves of Mirkwood and the people of Lake-Town? Will they friendly towards one another or indifferent?
I remember in the book the Master was afraid to do anything that would make an enemy of the Elvenking because he was their ally and they had a good trade with his people. Come to think of it, we know Bard and Legolas interact and it's pretty much guaranteed Bard and Thranduil will interact but I wonder if the Master and Thranduil will ever be on screen together. The sharp contrast of personalities could be quite interesting IMO. I just don't see Thranduil having much tolerance for a sniveling and slimy brownnoser like the Master.
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Being a costumer and wardrobe mistress is particularly interesting when one of the cast members is a brainy, flirty, handsome studmuffin who seems to enjoy stripping down to his designer unmentionables. I did makeup, too. Oh, the stories I could have told some future wives! ;)
...he's respectful but still a bit haughty. (He is Thranduil, after all.) Somehow, I think he and Bard will interact much like Legolas and Aragorn did in LoTR. I think the Mirkwood elves overall will be casual-friendly towards the Lake-towners as they are in the book (due to the constant interaction via trade). Maybe more businesslike than friendly but cordial.
I can't wait to see Thranduil interact with Gandalf prior to the Bo5A, and also Bilbo. In the book, he seems quite amazed by the little Hobbit and his actions. For me, those will be pivotal scenes in TABA. Martin Freeman won't disappoint and those two actors just seem like they'll have good screen chemistry.
Just thinking about Thranduil standing next to--much less interacting with--that slimy Master and/or Alfrid makes me laugh. Can you imagine? Talk about an odd pair. The Master would be so envious of Thranduil's lovely hair (among other things).
We have so much to look forward to!
Good night, fellow Thralls!
You've gotta love a man who loves dogs!
�I find that the best way into [acting successfully] is to open my heart up to it and allow it to be as truthful and honest as I can be, and I can make it. It�s hard to do that; it�s hard to open yourself up to something.�
- Lee Pace
And some Thranduil:
Thyia
I haven't drooled in here yet...
... But I must say that I'm looking very forward to seeing the Elvenking in his fabulous looking armour trouncing whomever gets in his way. Well, that, and listening to anything he has to say. Especially when he's ticked off. And especially to Thorin. The man has such a great voice. And hands. Really nice hands.
the dog pic
..i just love love the first photo. to be with a dog on the beach is just so soothing for the soul and one can really see it on the photo.. it's also what i feel when i am out with mine
and i love dogs :D awww.. it's some sort of pointer?
good morning :D i am off to walk the dog and to work.. with nice Images in my mind
I just love...
...how regal and in character Lee Pace still looks even when he's just being fluffed up, and not even acting in a scene.
So many wonderful pics/gifs etc. on this thread - thanks to all for this top quality Thranduil material. Pure heaven!
I'm drowning in my own drool here.
Lee Pace does indeed have a great voice - so beautifully rich, deep and resonant. And yes, he has lovely hands too. I suspect Thranduil spends a great deal of time at "Mirkwood Manicures"!
Yes....English Pointer!
Men who love dogs rule! He said he prefers to hang out with Carl v. attending premieres, parties, and award shows. Good man....
I used to love hitting the beach with my dogs too. You're so right in that it soothes the soul and clears the head. Now I don't live close enough so we hit the trails--also fun!
From his page:
He also loves sky diving and traveling. Lee has a dog (English Pointer) named Carl, who he states is the most awesome thing in his life.
http://leepace.net/information/biography
Kerewyn
I am loving this thread (my new home)
Oh thank you SO much for making this thread! I am actually de-lurking (like a few others) to say this, and would love to be added to Thranduil's Thralls :)
Not a newbie actually. I registered with TORn years ago, was pretty active here around the LOTR releases, but have just been here briefly of late. Reading, not saying much. Hoping for some kind of thread like this. I remember the old-style forum with popular threads like 'Estrogen Island', where a mature fangirl like me could swap pics in an environment where other peeps 'get' you.
When I first saw Thranduil's eyes in the DoS trailer, I had my own little Figwit - or rather Bigwit - moment (Bilbo is great - WHO is THAT??!!)
Coz yeah, I barely remembered Thranduil's very brief appearance in AUJ. I know, right? How could I not?? Probably I was too busy checking Bilbo for Tookishness. Pippin was my favourite LOTR character and I was more into hobbits in general. Never much of an Elf fancier, apart from a brief girl-crush on Arwen.
That has all changed.
So Lee Pace. Amazing. Stunning. I hadn't seen any of his back catalogue - I don't know if Pushing Daisies ever played in Australia - but you can bet I got hold of it quick smart and am currently enjoying. I can see how Lee's often worried expression as Ned translates beautifully to Thranduil's hurt/wounded look with extra intensity. I could hang that on my wall.
Anyway suddenly my interest in the entire elven race has picked up - funny that. I haven't done a lot of the reading that many of you have, but I think I could probably push on through the Sil now (I only made it halfway, several years ago)
Some beautiful pics here, and amazing links to wonderful fan art. Let's keep this thread alive.
I wish I was better at drawing. I love the little 'behind the scenes' bit here from 7:00 to 7:41 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcIN15WqeRE
including the jacuzzi jokes. It gives me an idea for some fan art....
'O' is very useful. You use it when you say... "Oscar's only ostrich oiled an orange owl today."
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Yay more Thranduil Thralls!
My best friend is a hobbit fancier but with The Hobbit she really got into Elrond. I think it was the gorgeous armor! I can't wait to see what she will think after seeing Thranduil in armor in Bo5A. I've always been an elf fancier myself and what a magnificent specimen of elf-dom (haha, is that even a word?) is Thranduil!
From a Thorin Thrall
Thanks so much for all the lovely pictures. Love the one with the hound � from my experience, men who love dogs are decent fellows in general. (That's from someone who has a sibling who rescues dogs � and others � though she only has about seven dogs now, most of 'em small exotics apart from one gorgeous lurcher.)
Rescue...
I'm involved in poodle rescue--highly rewarding. I've personally had three rescues thus far (two seniors and one retired stud dog). I'd love to foster but not sure I could give them up (plus I work full time) so I prefer coordinating and donating, etc.
Kudos to your sibling!
She used to have up to about 27 dogs at one time � this while working as a book illustrator! I think 'even' seven is a lot. She did have one toy poodle, which lived for a very long time (into its twenties) � it was a very loving little dog, though in the UK it's a breed that has gone out of fashion.
I hadn't seen that blog before...
couldn't help but LOL at some of it. Thanks for posting it
THRAN-DROOL!
I feel like such an addict having to get my daily fix by logging into this thread in order to see him in all his glory. The pictures that have been posted are awesome so please don't stop posting them. I've never looked forward to anything as much as I'm looking forward to TABA.
hihi .. there's another one for the junkie's (myself included)
I just looove the smile
How did I miss this one?
Look at how adorable Lee is flicking his robe with his leg! Thanks for posting that one!
no idea..
probably it's pretty new.. I've never seen it on tumblr or somewhere else before, it just appeared on my dash today .. and hell yes! it's gorgeous. The robe, the smile.. awww.. *drools*
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Elvish!
His voice over on the trailer was very sensual in a way. I got all tingly listening to him say "Where does your journey end?".
I just read an old interview here http://leepace.net/press-archive/articles/2013-2/the-hobbits-clash-of-the-kings where Lee Pace says:
"The scenes in Elvish were incredibly difficult because we had to learn a completely new language. I�d hate to see the out-takes from those scenes,� he laughs."
Wait what?! What scenes in Elvish? Did I miss something (having only seen DoS twice...yes I hang my head in shame)? Or will Thranduil speak in Elvish in TABA? Oh please let that happen!
Thanks for posting, didn't know that :D
Well, he speaks to Tauriel during the interrogation scene in elvish, but that's not a lot, only a word + a sentence.
Probably it's from this B-roll scene speaking with Legolas? I mean, it would make sense that they do not use the common tongue when they are together on their own ... and Legolas also speaks with Tauriel in Elvish (and she replies in the common tongue iirc)
Aww.. i'm looking more and more and more forward to EE & TABA
Ah I remember...when he told her to leave
It wasn't much, I hope he speaks Elvish to Legolas
Is this seriously...
... the only Hobbit premiere Lee has been to?
Such a pity. He needs to go to the TABA premieres! I need more of him! I need him to enjoy this and for us to enjoy him And for him to see how loved he is! XD
Now that everyone has seen DOS...
I recon he will get screams of delight from all the ladies should he attend the premier of TABA, I just checked out top 10 hottest actors in Empire magazine I sure expect that to change when they publish the list for 2014.
Truly hope
that Ian McKellen (wonderful actor as he is) will keep his big mouth shut in all those stupid interviews for the rest of the year.
you mean..
..that interview by Ian McKellen from that german magazine .. If so, I totally agree
I couldn't agree more...
I mean, what was up with that?
This....is....great!
ltnjmy
I am a Thraundil thrall too
Lee Pace was AWESOME and I hope to see more of him in the Extended Edition. Perfect casting and way too handsome...
Elvish never sounded so good...
As others noted, he speaks to Tauriel in Elvish during the Orc interrogation scene bu...it...wasn't...enough! I'm hoping he speaks a lot more Elvish during TABA....okay, seriously I just hope he speaks a lot. Period.
Quite Agree - A mention of Thraundil being at the Battle of the Last Alliance
- and losing his father there would be awesome.
More thralls...
Thranduil's Thralls: CurseOfFeanor, Eowyn of Penns Woods, elf-lady, Rowan Greene, Eruvandi, MouthofSauron, Roheryn*, Thranderz, CathrineB, Bernhardina, hobbitylass, Thranduiliel, Nimloth, vanima ephel, Fionniel, Nesse, Kerewyn, ltnjmy, (anyone else)?
horrible horrible pieces of c***p
Well, it seems that (God, I'm so angry)...
as two good and dear friends, RA and LP hung around in New York, going to the cinema or enjoying a dinner with friends (young kids included, there was also the cutest picture ever around a table) and guess what he said??
He stated also (maybe as an expert, I don't know) that there are three gay actors among the dwarves, one openly, the other two closeted.
You can imagine the "guess who" game... the one who played a gay man??? (Dean O'Gorman)
And there's more to come: even Bard...
I was horrified because private life is private and if someone decides not to flaunt it with a string of high-profile relationships and no substance, you must respect him, not speculate if he is gay or not
One of my favorite pics....
...he conveys so much emotion with his expressions.
I'm so glad I didn't read that interview. Horrible!
Yes, the expressions!
I love Thranduil�s expression when he says �I can wait�. So loaded, the words and the look.
I find myself coming back constantly to watch that little clip of the hairbrush passing through his hair. Just that one little movement, over and over�
I remember someone on another thread (one of you?) wondering if Thranduil has a team of staff to wash and dress him each morning. This I like to think about. I guess there would be a servant to attend to him in a special elegant bath or pool, either washing him or maybe just sit by and hand him soaps, towel etc. There�d be someone to helping to robe him, and someone to comb his hair. Would he have one trusted servant, or a different person for each role? Would he sleep with his bling on, or would the most trusted attendant watch over these in a special box?
I imagine he has a "Lindir" or one trusted associate/servant. I see him as a private King and therefore he wouldn't want an entourage following him to and fro. He must keep his bling in his private chambers, which are guarded by those scary looking elves in armor.
"I can wait..."
why rowan...
Are you trying to kill us? XD
I love that clip too. Damn. The way his brows furrow and damn the intensity!
Not a bad way to go out! LOL
My computer background is a Thranduil collage, which I swap out ever so many days. I never tire of looking at it. In fact, I spend far too much time staring at my screen while accomplishing nothing.
What gets me are the reviewers who described his performance as "campy" among other things. Gggrrr.... I was like, Huh? For serious? I never saw anything remotely "campy" even after 3 viewings. Not at all! (I decided those reviewers were men and jealous of Thranduil's numerous attributes.)
Thranduil says "whatever" to those guys.
I find him very camp, and totally fabulous.
he said two of the dwarf actors were gay. Adam Brown is out, so that leaves one person who I suppose people could speculate about if they like doing that kind of thing. (Which seems to be what you are actually doing in your post.)
'Even Bard?' Luke Evans has been out since 2002, so that is no news.
The things Ian McKellen said also need to be taken in the context of the interview, in which he was specifically asked about what it was like for him as an openly gay actor filming The Hobbit, compared to when he was filming LOTR, ie: have things changed. He was pointing out that yes, they have. And yes, he may know things about other actors that we don't know. And yes, he may have slipped up and revealed information about someone when he possibly shouldn't have. I would give him the benefit of the doubt in this because of his exemplary track record in supporting gay actors, and for being a brave role model in a world that still sees being gay as something less than ideal.
He was making a positive statement.
I don't quite understand the outraged tone of your post.
Roheryn
Why be so upset?
Sure, private life is private. But in an ideal world (yes, I can dream) we'd all greet the news that someone is gay with a yawn, and a "That's nice; how's the weather?" It ought to be about as interesting as whether someone has light brown or dark brown hair. Actors most certainly have a right to privacy, but when we (accidentally or otherwise) discover something about them that perhaps they'd rather have kept private, we still ought to greet that revelation with quiet politeness and move on to something else. If we get incensed about the revelation -- even if we're incensed not about what was revealed but about the fact that it was revealed in the first place -- we're just perpetrating the problem, in the long run. That someone is gay (ideally, of course) -- especially when it's someone we'll probably never meet -- just ought to be a non-issue. More power to 'em!
And back to Thranduil and how fabulous he is....
I *hope* we get the Bilbo/Thranduil scenes from the book in TABA--Bilbo presenting the Arkenstone to Bard/Thranduil and Thranduil imploring him to stay with them for his safety... Bilbo choosing to fight with th elves during the Bo5A because he found Thranduil to be noble and just.... Bilbo presenting Thranduil with the white gem necklace in payment for his (unknown) hospitality, etc.
Brethil
(*looks around*) I am not in my usual Fan thread but...
(Just wanted to agree with above.)
And you have all posted some amazing pictures of Lee. Nicely done!
Have an idea relating to the world of JRR Tolkien that you would like to write about? If so, the Third TORn Amateur Symposium will be running in the Reading Room in April, 2014. We hope to see you there!
In the top picture
Thranduil's expression is much like mine was when I first heard his voice in the trailer...and the rest is history!
He also looks like it has only just dawned on him just how fabulous he is!
Fabulous Thranduil
RG that pic you posted makes my want to run my fingers through his hair.
Me too. I want to see all of this and more!
When I read the speculation about LP and RA, who happen to be my two favourite actors (RA since 2006), I had three thoughts. One was that it isn't any of my business - only my husband is my business. Then I thought if it is true, they both have impeccable taste and I wish them every happiness. If it isn't true, I have the utmost respect for the dignified way they have dealt with the rumours, which are par for the course in the profession they have both chosen to follow. Whatever the situation is, it has no bearing on my continuing enjoyment of their work and never will.
Ok, maybe that was around 6 thoughts...
Impeccable taste - how true, if so!!!
Then I thought if it is true, they both have impeccable taste and I wish them every happiness.
Aside from the possible debate itself (which as you say, is really a bit lacking in meaning to us) - this made me laugh! Impeccable taste- my goodness, yes!
And Welcome, Thranduiliel!
That pencil drawing...
Is lovely! Where did it come from?
Pencil drawing....
I think I found that one on the "Elves" FB page--that or the Thranduil FB page.
That shot is stunning...
Do you know if it's possible to get a poster of this photo everytime I scroll through the replies and come to this pic I feel weak at the knees. I'm sure if I was on set and Thrandruil spoke to me I would surely pass out
Haven't seen this one in poster form
But he's December in my 2014 calendar! I would love to have a full length version poster and put it in my office. Then again, I might not get any work done if I did that!
ETA: oh you can get a full size standee of Thranduil! *giggles* http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Thranduil-The-Hobbit-The-Desolation-of-Smaug-Movie-Lifesize-Standup-Poster-Posters_i10277136_.htm
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McKellen's interview
has been a starting point for a series of related articles on the net which made lots of speculation and hypotheses. I was just summarizing that (nothing of what I wrote was my idea or speculation) .
In my opinion If you are out, you probably have no problems with all the Internet buzz, if you haven't publicly of course it may happen that someone lets slip something, if you aren't and many articles variously report it, you are probably annoyed.
I was horrified at the way things were being reported and speculated about and I was sorry that a great man like Ian McKellen had been the source for all of it: it was not the fact per se but the way his words were interpreted
Every office needs one of those!
Haha, brilliant - I'd never get any work done either with this! Perhaps I'll just leave it at the door to ward off my colleagues!
At 68 inches in height, isn't that around 5'8? So They've shrunk Lee Pace by around 7 inches!
for the warm welcome, Brethil - it's great being here. I've lurked for a long time, but the Elvenking finally dragged me out from the shadows to pay homage to his greatness!
you did refer to hoping that Ian McKellen would keep his 'big mouth' shut.
You can see how criticism of him could be inferred from your post.
Excellent reason to de-lurk!
Hope you stick around, its a fun place.
Oh I want one .. no .. i want Two.. one for the office & one for the lab. Aye that would do. I've printed out some of the lovely cartoons and decorated the space around my screen.. and I have the screencaps of the two DOS trailers as screensavers, it switches on after 1 min xD
But I cannot overdo it at work, my colleagues already think I'm weird in regard to that .. and I'm afraid they'll put all the stuff on my PhD hat which I have to explain in detail after my viva. Not so sure if I want to do THAT
Having lots of fun so far!
I've actually lurked on and off for over 10 years - is that some kind of record?! Much more frequently though since AUJ came out. Good to see nice, friendly, fun discussion instead of backbiting on a forum.
I'm very lucky because my boss is also my friend and for Christmas bought me a Thorin mug and a Legolas mousemat for work, as he is also a LOTR/Hobbit fan. And I came back from my break to find he'd taken Thorin out of his calendar from last year and put him on my wall! I bought him the Hobbit desk calendar for his room. I keep dropping Thrandy hints for my birthday, but I have a feeling he may draw the line at a full-size Thranduil in the workplace!
I'm running out of photos I could post.. only nasty ones are left xD
the hint of dimple in the left cheek when he utters the words 'slay a dragon'. Lovely facial contours. I can never tire of this scene. Beautiful pics thanks - I was having difficulty finding out the meaning of Thranduil's name, so thanks for that.
Are there any such thing as nasty Thranduil pics? On the other hand, best not answer that!
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slay a dragon
More than welcomed :D
Awww.. me too.. the trailer & the "slay a dragon" made me mad, really mad .. it still does, i just need to see the pic and the line comes automatically into my mind.
Oh yes LOL I would say countless, they appear randomly on my tumblr dash
B&W is just soo nice
MistyMountain
Where did this rumor arise? Is this what was implied by the remarks by McKellan? All in all, I find this rumor ridiculous. I don't care one way or the other re:anyone's sexual preference but what I really wonder is if any two (famous) men can ever just be friends and go out to dinner together. If it had been two women, would anyone even notice? Our society (maybe just in America?) puts so much pressure on boys to not show any emotions that it warps their view of human relations. This was especially evident after LOTR with all the Frodo/Sam jokes about their "real" relationship. The fact that two men could truly love each other in a nonsexual way seems an alien concept. Now, of course, I do not mean all men feel this way, I just got annoyed at constantly trying to explain what true, deep friendship can look like, even between two men. I found most women accepted the Frodo/Sam friendship without question.
The rumor arose after the interview, followed by a private photo, coming from some facebook account.
This was especially evident after LOTR with all the Frodo/Sam jokes about their "real" relationship. The fact that two men could truly love each other in a nonsexual way seems an alien concept.
Naaa.. everything is sexual.
I really have the impression now it's much much more worse than it was during the LotR time, social media only add a lot to this (there was just no tumblr during LotR)- and what surprises me most: it's entirely accepted ... I mean, just look at all the Thorduil stuff going through the net, I've never read a blaming post on one of those pics but I do remember the screams of the internet community during LotR times when certain buzzwords were mentioned quite well: "oh how could you?? how dare you??"
^^ and for some it's not enough to ship the characters (I don't have a problem with that), they do even ship the real existing people, searching for "special" photos (or photoshop them if they do not exist).
Mae govannen, Thranduiliel!
And thanks. :-)
I never can tell if I'm having three thoughts or six, either. LOL!
Nice to have you delurked! Hope you stick around and offer more of your thoughts (however many they are).
Love your point about impeccable taste -- absolutely. And that it's really none of our business. I don't know as much about LP, but I have tremendous respect for RA, more so than for any other actor I've ever seen. He is just one classy, intelligent, very talented man, and I'll continue to enjoy what he does no matter what.
if I think of Thranduil these are exactly the words that come into my mind. Unlike you, I am still waiting to see the whole film in English...
OMG.. just found those and as they are somehow related to Thranduil: here they are
OMG! I'm literally dying, i want to see TABA.. now. gosh, those swords
I've seen that vlog so many times without noticing this one thing.
If I'm not mistaken, those are all Mirkwood elves. You can tell by the armor. So, I guess that means it's Thranduil's army!
Wow, how did I miss that until just now? Now I'm excited too!
Yeah, i think that's a part of his army for the Bo5A.. And now multiply them by - i don't know - maybe a 100 times.. I'm lost xD
Thanks for posting those CurseOfFeanor! They look very cool. Those swords are wicked and I love all the burgundy velvet. Gotta give it to the elves to be dressed to the nines for a battle!
Can I just mention that I love the female elven warriors in Mirkwood? We only see flashes of them in the movie, but they're glorious! Oh yeah! Mirkwood elves certainly are the best and led by the coolest King
Love their armor...
And here's some more Thranduil...
(I WISH we could sticky this thread!!)
And one more....
I'll tell you why.
**warning: rant ahead**
I understand the argument you make, and fully expected someone to post it here. Inadvertently is one thing (still not great) but I still give no one a pass for deliberately 'outing' another, no matter how they try to reason and excuse it away. This isn't an ideal world, but we still have to live in it. And so do those who for reasons of their own have not chosen to be 'out'...yet. I've seen the devastation that having that choice ripped from their hands before they were ready can cause. They might not be moving as fast as Some People (not speaking of Sir Ian or anyone here) would like, but they might be too early in the process of gently and gradually preparing the people that they know will have the toughest time dealing with this revelation...and they might not be quite emotionally/psychologically prepared to fully admit it to themselves or aren't quite sure what they are yet.
Does anyone else really have the right to make their lives more difficult -- no matter how just they think or claim the cause is -- by not letting them choose the time, place, and manner in which they 'come out'? Should the cause come before (and possibly at the expense of) the individual? Because I sure as heck don't think so. It messes some people up even worse than when they were just trying to come to terms with it on their own. That's why I get incensed. I hate it!
But I hate all such rumors and meddling in the lives of others. [I've had my own budding relationships sabotaged too many times by people who made assumptions about the wrong friend with no evidence to go on or who projected their own taste onto me and took action, and I'm straight!] Gay, straight, or in between, who we're interested in/attracted to/in love with or dating is nobody's %@#^ business, and isn't 'fact' until it's officially revealed! [I'd prefer to actually hear the proposal before anyone helps plan my elopement behind my back, thanks! And it would be nice if they confirmed with me that I'm actually dating that guy before speeding things up for me. I wish I were joking, but there's more where that came from...] Yeah, I'm not a fan of 'shipping, fictional (except a quick joke) or real world. I hate even the term, but that's just my 'hot button'. I've seen the harm in it.
I agree that it shouldn't be such a big deal, and life should just go on. I just needed to get off my chest why I get so upset. I'm protective by nature, and I can't stand seeing anyone's pain made worse by someone else making decisions for them. I know I claim part-time curmudgeonry and Sherlockian traits, but I really do care about people. I think most of us really do want what's best for others, we just don't always agree on what that is or how to achieve it.
**End rant**
And now, back to our regularly scheduled Thranduil swoon session!
That was quite the eloquent rant
I agree! No one should be pressured to make a decision they're not ready to make, nor should people try to meddle in the business of others or make unfounded assumptions or start rumors about others. I wish everyone would just be allowed to have some privacy already.
To lighten the mood a bit and get back on the topic of Thranduil, maybe this picture will help us all have a good laugh. It just strikes me as funny for some reason.
Thank YOU, RG
...for that particular image. That has made my afternoon! *melts*
We "hot desk" in my workplace, which means turning up to a different free desk each day with my laptop. Which means I can't decorate my space.
(though I am considering putting a Thrandy pic inside my locker door, high school style)
Yesterday I really wished I could browse all these pics in private., but was in a busy 'avenue' at work with people constantly walking up behind me - and I am very private about my passions because I don't like being teased. So today I chose a cubicle well away from everyone else. *happily browsing / drooling*
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Does that mean...?
..Elanor, I notice you said you are yet to see film in English, and that you're in Italy.
Does that mean you have only seen an overdubbed version? So you haven't yet experienced The Voice?
Private obsessions....
I hear you! While I'm open about my Tolkien obsession at work, I do tend to downplay my Thranduil enthralldom.
You need to decorate your home computer or your smartphone. I love the idea of putting his pic in a locker and going HS. I should do that with my gym locker. LOL
Some Thranduil to get us through the work day:
I'll come out with it...
...and my apologies if this offends anyone. I'm not a fan of "fan fiction" or shipping(?) fictional characters. There...I said it. It just feels wrong to me on so many levels, probably because I come to view fictional characters as real people.
As for fan fiction: I'm a writer and my characters are near and dear to me. I hope to get published one day and while I'm not arrogant enough to think anyone will care enough about my characters to 'ship them or write fan fic about them, I would avoid it at all costs. It irritated me that EL James basically poached Meyers' characters for her horribly written 50 Shades series. (In the original fan fiction posted online, they were actually named Bella and Edward, etc.) Why not create your own original characters and your own worlds?
On that same note, I'm not a fan of all the "fan fiction" artwork either. I'm not referring to the beautiful drawings of say Thranduil or Aragorn & Arwen, etc. but the stuff that falls under the "slash" umbrella--I think that's the correct term. I made the mistake of opening up a Thranduil FB page looking for movie screencaps and instead found all these distasteful slash pics. (Note: I have nothing against homosexuality but I don't like the non-canon character pairings. At all.)
Again, my apologies if I offended anyone with my opinion on the matter.
Back to THRANDUIL!
....Yeah, I'm not a fan of 'shipping, fictional (except a quick joke) or real world. I hate even the term, but that's just my 'hot button'. I've seen the harm in it.
Not offended at all. To each their own I say.
For many fans, writing or reading fan fiction is a way of exploring "unseen scenes" or "filling in the gaps" (canon or otherwise) in a book, film, anime or TV series and keeping the characters with them long after the original source story is over. Some fan fiction is extremely well written and sometimes even better than the source material (well, I'm thinking of one particular anime series from the '90's that had enough plot holes for Smaug to fly through but I digress) and of course some are horribly written.
I got curious and went to Wiki to see what might be written about fan fiction and was surprised to see that fan fiction has been around for a long time, even before the fandom for the original Star Trek TV series. I mean Charlotte Bront� wrote fan fiction? Wow!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_fiction
Another wonderful pic of Thranduil
I like yourself Rowan feel that the characters of ME seem to be very realistic.Thrandruil may appear on the outside cold and arrogant but I'll bet on the inside he is nothing like that. I have no idea what happened to his wife, is she still around or has she gone to the undying lands or maybe she was killed by an orc....who knows but to her I'll bet he was a loving and passionate husband and very protective of his wife and son as he is with his people. I suppose if you are a male elf in your prime of life which will last forever, somehow I can't see him take a vow of celibacy. If his wife is no longer around then I don't doubt that when he is feeling lonely for some female companionship he only has to approach some beautiful elf maiden and with a few words from that mouth and eye contact from him they would be putty in his hands ( I know I would be lol).
Thranduil is a Hot Elf!
I'm not a fan either
Especially all this "shipping" nonsense. I'm a writer as well and although I'll admit that the story I'm currently working on is loosely inspired by ME, (there are elves and it occurs in the ancient past of our world) I am working very hard to create my own unique world and unique characters with a unique story. (making up names is hard) I have to say, should I ever get published and should people be so kind as to like it enough to write fan fiction about it, I would avoid it at all costs as well lest I get upset because they have the characters doing things I would not have them do.
*rant beginning to well up from within* Lord help me if I ever saw anyone pulling an "EL James" on any of my characters. I'd probably throw my laptop out the window and throw up. (I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but I personally despise the very idea of 50 Shade of Grey and I have not read it and never ever will. I simply do not believe in allowing that sort of thing into my mind.)
Yeah, I've unintentionally seen some of that "slash" artwork as well while looking for other things and I think they are pretty distasteful too. If Tolkien ever saw any of it, I just know he'd roll over in his grave! I don't like it when fictional characters get shipped, but I especially dislike the shipping of real people. It's like, hello? These are real people with real lives and real feelings. Whether they're celebrities or not shouldn't matter. They should be allowed privacy and treated with the same amount of respect and dignity that every human being deserves! *rant over*
btw: very nice picture of Thranduil. I like they way it's colored. Is that what you would call sepia tone?
(This post was edited by Eruvandi on Jan 31 2014, 3:28pm)
thanks for the link
I was just wondering how fan fiction has become a new literary popular genre and this phenomenon has grown lately thanks to the net.
I understand why for example grr martin strongly opposes it because he is still slowly writing his story and fans are trying to fill these gaps (the most popular is the topic of Jon Snow's parents, tens of videos with thousands of fanart pictures ).
I must admit I find nothing wrong with that, as long as it is beautifully written and tries to stay true to the "real" characters' spirit. I'm not that into crossover or the use of images of other series to create new storylines: if you don't know what it is... Nesse, you can have a look at what Thranduil's wife could have been
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZImk4l7_I
I understand the existence of the subgenre "hurt /confort" and I must also admit my weakness, because sometimes I indulge in reading alternative endings to Fili and Kili's lives, sorry
Till a few weeks ago I didn't know what a slash or even a bromance was: I mostly find them deliberately "over the top" and don't catch my attention or interest.
Shipping "real people" is incomprehensible because they are actors and they aren't always linked to that special character.. Ned Stark or Boromir, well I really couldn't choose
Why offended? I think everybody has his (or better say her in here? :D ) own idea of all that stuff and I as long as people can respect other opinions, it should be fine :)
I'm feeling sort of indifferent for all the shipping (concerning fictional characters, real person stuff is definitely a absolut no-go for me), I don't mind if some of those slash-pics appear on my dash (some are quite funny and beautiful I have to admit), but I would not post them here e.g. (as I assume there are loads of underage users on this board). And that's the thing, I'm sort of, well - worried about. If I just see the pics and fanfictions (rated NC-17) reblogged and read by 13-year old girls
Oh well.. and if you're using these social media stuff you just can't avoid them. I'm falling over those things more or less on a daily basis, just if i open my account and I would not sleep a minutes (i think) if a would have a daughter being fan of the hobbit hanging around on tumblr. Really...
Fanfiction: well, I admit: I like to read those, well, some of them, a small part of them at least :) but that's maybe 1 out of 40, i can't stand all the mary sue stuff, i can't stand ff written by 13year-old-girlies drooling about a char/actor and all those things. I want magic in the stories, closing "plot-holes", showing the lifes of the characters after the curtain of the movie fell..
Yes, I heard Thranduil's
and Thorin's majestic voices only on youtube and I am eagerly waiting for the TE of DOS to be released as soon as possible. It's impossible to watch films in original language in my country, but Thranduil literally blew my mind when I first watched the teaser trailer and I heard him say..."Such is the nature of evil... "aaawww
One of the few fanfic pieces I've ever read and liked
This bit of fanfic by someone named durinheir on DeviantArt is actually a pretty touching piece that features Thranduil and Legolas. Apparently the painting "Forgotten Lantern" by Kinko-White came first and durinheir wrote the story to accompany it. There is no shipping or slashing. Hope y'all enjoy!
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Forgotten-Lantern-372627903
Speaking of elves and marriage...
This is an example of what I loved about Tolkien--his attention to detail. Apparently, once married, an elf is married forever, as in eternity. If a spouse dies and goes to the Halls of Mandos, they remain there until they're ready to re-enter their bodies and rejoin their lives (wherever they left off). The spouse waits for them, however long that may be. If they choose not to return, I'm 99% sure the marriage remains valid and the other spouse can't remarry.
Elves are often separated from their spouses for long periods of time. An example is Lord Elrond, whose wife was captured and tortured by orcs (possibly raped) causing her to leave ME for the undying lands where she awaits her husband.
Only one elf remarried and that was a special case (Finwe, first High Kind of the Noldor).
I think I also read somewhere that elves can tell if another elf is married by their eyes and their voice (they can literally see and hear this in each other). That's why adultery is unheard of among elves.
And I just revealed my inner geek! LOL
If you're interested in learning more, I believe this information is in the Histories of Middle Earth (volume 10, Morgoth's Ring). Fascinating reading! His attention to detail and world-building is beyond impressive.
Ah, another 'right-click, save image as' ! =) //
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I'm just gunna...
I'm just gunna.. gunna leave this here because Lee and one of the few Hobbit promo things he's been on.
AND wink
I felt like a teenager again there for a moment
Inner Geeks Unite!
I'm such a geek (check out my book collection)! I bought all the Houghton Mifflin MoME hardbacks way back in 2001, the book on Tolkien's letters and others and read them all but honestly, have forgotten most of what I read! LOL. I think I recall someone on this board mentioning that what little back story there is for Thranduil is in "Unfinished Tales"? Do any of my fellow Thralls know?
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There's some information regarding his back story in UF in the Galadriel and Celeborn chapter. (I have all the hardcovers too!)
When we see Lee...
...we just have to let our inner fan girls out! It's his fault for being so charming.
. I think I recall someone on this board mentioning that what little back story there is for Thranduil is in "Unfinished Tales"? Do any of my fellow Thralls know?
These are quotes from the unfinished tales, History of Galadriel & Celeborn I hope this helps :) .. and this is soo good, so much better than the invented dragon tale :)
This they did deliberately; for they came from Doriath after its ruin and had no desire to leave Middle-earth, nor to be merged with the other Sindar of Beleriand, dominated by the Noldorin Exiles for whom the folk of Doriath had no great love. They wished indeed to become Silvan folk and to return; as they said to the simple life natural to the Elves before the invitation of the Valar had disturbed it.
The Silvan Elves were hardy and valiant, but ill-equipped with armour or weapons in comparison with the Eldar of the West; also they were independent, and not disposed to place themselves under the supreme command of Gil-galad. Their losses were thus more grievous than they need have been, even in that terrible war�Thranduil [Oropher's] son survived, but when the war ended and Sauron was slain (as it seemed) he led back home barely a third of the army that had marched to war
But there was in Thranduil�s heart a still deeper shadow. He had seen the horror of Mordor and could not forget it. If ever he looked south its memory dimmed the light of the Sun, and though he knew that it was now broken and deserted and under the vigilance of the Kings of Men, fear spoke in his heart that it was not conquered for ever: it would arise again
I have soooo much reading to do to catch up to you all...The only Tolkien books I have so far are TH and the three LOTR books and I just started ROTK.
I've seen...
...some comments in other threads where people were really offended by usage of the term ("fan fiction") and negative comments related to it so I've learned to tread softly.
And yes...HER opinion (as I'm 100% female).
Nice selection CoF!
There is information scattered here and there about Thranduil and Oropher and some of it does appear in the History of Galadriel and Celeborn chapter...which, coincidentally, we are discussing in the RR this coming week (<---- insert *shameless* plug for Reading Room here)
Thanks for the shameless plug Brethil! I'll be visiting for sure!
Excellent Elf-lady! //
speaking of voices - I want a trailer line back!
LOL, a Thorin thrall behind enemy lines.....but it just popped into my head, while I had issues w. DOS Trailer 1, LOVED the opening "Where does your journey end?" it was haunting, mysterious, coming with LP's voice and his face.
So evidently the T & T scene got reworked, as now re DOS I can't see how that line would work - but I miss it. Before the movie I pictured some ominous scene with Thorin dragged before Thranduil and Thranduil's gazing off into the distance, almost as though he were talking to himself, and then turns to deal mockingly with Thorin.
Which is kind of what happened anyway, but I wish we could see what scenes were filmed and then re-done. I was looking forward to that line and whatever followed.
Thranduil's wife.
I agree with your post, Nesse, about Thranduil being a loving and passionate husband. That brings me to the subject of the Elven Queen. Could they not have shown a cameo of his Elf Queen, Legolas's mother; and also Thranduil's mother,his father Oropher's wife, for that matter. They could have had one or two short scenes of Thranduil interacting with them. For example, maybe the whole family could be at dinner having a heated discussion about the growing threat to The Woodland Realm; and another short scene showing Thranduil's wife's misgivings about Thranduil not engaging with the outside world, which lead to him rethinking his position. They could have shown a softer side to him. Showing love and tenderness to his wife and kindness to his mother and son. Maybe Bilbo could witness these scenes as he is sneaking, invisible, around the Elven King's halls . It then would set things up well for TABA and make it more believable when he shows pity and kindness to Bilbo and the Lake men because we have seen his kinder side, previously, with his family. It would explain, too, why Bilbo likes and helps Thranduil in TABA. It would also show Thranduil as a multi-dimensional character. As it stands now, we have only seen him as this one-dimensional, haughty,cold,aloof elf and I think it is going to be difficult explaining the sudden show of kindness and caring from him in TABA. It would also introduce two more credible females into the male dominated characters. Prof. Tolkien never mentions either wife anywhere in his writings so there should be no copyright problem with the Tolkien estate. If they can have Legolas who was not mentioned in The Hobbit but we know would have been in the Woodland Realm, then why not also the two wives, who, whilst also not mentioned in the book, could have also just as easily have been there.
"This wine is inferior. Take it away."
I like the idea of that scene Fionniel
I am playing it out in my head.
PJ does seem to like setting up tension with his movie characters though, doesn't he. So, sadly, Thranduil is proposed as more of an adversary to forward the movie tension, and non-readers could be none the wiser.
Remember how movie Faramir was introduced? Mind you, I did quite enjoy the tension set up there (I must confess I was one of those ...um...movie-firsters) but many couldn't stand it. Of course, we did get to see more of the real Faramir later on.
"Ladies.... ladies!"
Feb 1 2014, 10:09am
Movie tension.
Kerewyn, that is a good point you make about forwarding the movie tension.True, Faramir's character did transition sympathetically from the second to third film. I had forgotten about that. I just wonder,though, how they will achieve that for Thranduil. I can not see it being as straight forward as it was with Faramir and remember what they did with Faramir's father,Denethor. They gave him no real redeeming features. I am just very protective of our Elven King! I want his character to be respected as he should be. I can only trust in PJ and co. I suppose.
for the little hint :) i think i'll stop by once in a while
Thranduil's wife and family....
I actually feel they increase his complexity by not showing his wife or mother. Their sheer absence and the losses he endured are significant to his character evolution, IMO. He's alone for the most part and being alone has shaped his attitude towards the world. I think his complexity comes through in his words, actions, and mannerisms. That's all down to great acting by Lee Pace. (I do wish we had seen more of the father / son dynamic.)
Thranduil suffered a great loss during the Battle of the Last Alliance and that loss is what drives him. He then quite possibly lost his wife, either through death or an injury that resulted in her leaving for the undying lands. So he cherishes his son Legolas--quite possibly his only child--above all. And in doing so, he holds him at arm's length and protects him from the outside world, all to prevent yet more loss. He has insulated himself from the outside world and is alone with these memories that haunt him.
So I don't think they need to show him interacting with his wife or mother to give him a 'softer' side and in fact, I think such interaction would have been at odds with the Thranduil we saw on screen. It would have detracted from his character evolution because we need him to go from cold and haughty to kind and generous in TABA. It's the suffering of the Lake-town residents at Smaug's hand that initially awakens the feelings he has buried so deep. But I'd love for Bilbo to be the catalyst for the significant change of heart he later undergoes--his transformation if you will.
It's Bilbo, our titular hero, who reminds Thranduil what's important in life. And it's Thranduil's actions towards the Lake-towners and prior to the battle that inspire Bilbo to fight with the elves. Plus I like to think that Bilbo, like us, saw the King's true nature buried beneath the despair and fear during his stay in Thranduil's halls. (That's partially why I was so upset they failed to show more of him scampering around looking for an escape route, pilfering food, and observing the elves--namely the feast which is one example of Thranduil trying to do right by his people despite the darkness slowly enveloping their lands.) It's Bilbo's simple nature and honesty that brings this out in Thranduil. We need Thranduil to be perceived as a cold, arrogant, selfish King for this to come across; we need that sharp contrast. Think about it: this strange little creature brings the Arkenstone, this most coveted gem, and presents it to Bard and Thranduil to save Thorin from himself. It's such a selfless act. Bilbo cares nothing for treasure but instead is acting out of friendship and honor. That is epic! Thranduil, the great Elvenking, is taken aback at the integrity and heart in this seemingly insignificant creature. (His dialogue from the book is fitting.)
So in conclusion, I'll have no problem believing Thranduil's kindness towards the Lake-towners and Bilbo as genuine in TABA. Imagine you haven't left your home for many years and when you do, you're confronted with the horrors of a dragon attack and the suffering of many innocents. Imagine the inner turmoil that would cause and how it would impact you--the memories it would invoke. But then you witness such selflessness and kindness from an unlikely creature. That's essentially what happens to Thranduil.
(This post was edited by Rowan Greene on Feb 1 2014, 1:45pm)
Beautifully put RG
In my head canon, Thranduil's wife is in Valinor. I don't like to think that she may have suffered at the hands of orcs (like poor Celebr�an) but rather was wounded in a battle with spiders. It seems to me that the wife of such an elf as Thranduil would not shy from protecting her people and I can easily envision her being as a badass warrior queen.
Yes, exactly. I adore Freeman's Bilbo and I can't wait to see Bilbo interact with Thranduil.
I miss it too.
I think that line was likely from the deleted scene where the entire dwarven company is brought before Thranduil, before they are put in their cells and T & T speak to each other alone. I'm hoping it comes back in the EE!
That is exactly what I've said in some other threads
Bilbo absolutely has to be the one who helps Thranduil change for the better. I desperately hope they stay true to this in TABA.
some images i made yesterday :)
..I had some spare time yesterday and decided to use it for photoshopping, actually the Unfinished Tales discussion here was inspiring for at least one of them
with the UT quote
and the one with the DoS quote
and just another one
Thranduil's family.
Rowan Greene, you make some good,thoughtful points. Your version of Thranduil's past history is so sad and tragic, befitting the persona of the movie Thranduil. That's the thing, he and his back story are so mysterious we can all have our own take on it. I agree that Bilbo should be the catylist. Still I would like to see more of Bilbo in the Elven halls observing. Maybe at the starlight feast that they alluded to in DOS, hopefully in the EE. I can not wait to see what they do with Thranduil's character in TABA. I fervently hope it will not disappoint.
On an aside, Thankyou, so much, for starting this awesome thread! I love how this is on the fifth page of TH forum and still going strong. Lots of posting still happening here. Yay!
Nice ones!
Some more Thranduil...
I have many hopes for the DoS EE...
...and additional scenes of Bilbo wandering through Thranduil's halls is one of them. Bilbo should have been front and center while the dwarves were imprisoned and yet he took a back seat to talks about starlight and Legolas being fond of Tauriel. We lost track of Bilbo for extended periods of time during this portion of the movie and that was unfortunate.
I really hope we get to see Bilbo wandering around Thranduil's halls, amazed by the woodland elves and King Thranduil as he observes the Feast of Starlight and pilfers food and wine. I want to actually see him looking for a way out and devising his master plan. That's where Martin Freeman really shines--body language and subtle gestures. One look or hand movement conveys so much emotion. (The AUJ EE scenes of him exploring Rivendell are a great example. I hope they give us the equivalent in the DoS EE.)
And I'd love it if they showed him eavesdropping on the Thorin and Thranduil encounter. I've always wondered what Bilbo would make of that conversation!
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Wonderful pic and caption!
I don't think he could look snootier if he tried!
I loved the line in the movie where one of the elven guard says "Say what you like about our ill-tempered King, but he certainly has excellent taste in wine!" Or words to that effect. I felt a little sad though that the overriding opinion of Thranduil from his own subjects is that he is ill-tempered.
(This post was edited by Thranduiliel on Feb 2 2014, 9:35am)
I wonder how he reacted when he found out that the dwarves had escaped
bet he wasn't best pleased
...thanks for those! I am not technologically advanced enough to anything like this, so I really appreciate it when it's done by others.
Great post, RG
. It's the suffering of the Lake-town residents at Smaug's hand that initially awakens the feelings he has buried so deep. But I'd love for Bilbo to be the catalyst for the significant change of heart he later undergoes--his transformation if you will.
While I'm happy to have Legolas report to Thranduil what Smaug has done in TABA, I hope Legolas doesn't dominate the proceedings and then they just have Thranduil turn up at the last hour a la Haldir, say a couple of lines, offer up his army and thrash his sword round a bit. He deserves better than that.
I do have a real fear that much of Thranduil's role in TABA will be given to Legolas, having seen the picture of Legolas with Bard. PJ loves Legolas (as I did in LOTR), but it's Thranduil's story in the Hobbit - I really hope we aren't denied it in the final film.
(This post was edited by Thranduiliel on Feb 2 2014, 4:39pm)
Thank you Roheryn
for a very warm welcome. Still finding my feet here, but very glad I de-lurked! :)
Totally agree with your comments about RA - he's a joy to watch as an actor, and I love the thought and effort he puts into every performance. Lee Pace strikes me as being very similar in that way.
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I missed posting in this thread (due to real-live busy-ness rather than lack of appreciation for Trhanduil.
Those are beautiful! I love the superimposed text from Unfinished Tales. The second one sounds similar to lines spoken by Galadriel, Tauriel and Elrond in the movies. Nice touch!
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thanks for all your
..lovely comments on the pictures make's the artist happy =) I have so many ideas in my mind for fanart but as much as I love to do those things, they are rather time-consuming (and the fact that I am really neat-picking does not help either)
The last one from this weekend, the sleepless malice thing hit me so hard in cinema. I was "gosh, omg, they use the same words"
And I do agree with you, RG, I also want a lot more of Bilbo sneaking the halls, magic, stunned expressions - I mean.. Bilbo LOVES elves.. I was rather disappointed whilst I watched DoS that it was soo short :/ Dwarves locked up, dwarves are out of the cells again *sigh*
I hope we see his reaction in the EE
After Thranduil and Thorin's charged confrontation, which was a very compelling scene, I was disappointed that we didn't see Thranduil's reaction to the dwarves' escape. Could they find room in the EE for this, if it was even filmed? I really hope so!
Oh, how gorgeous!
Well spotted - I knew all Legolas' lines at one point and I never picked that up before. He's his daddy's son! Lovely artwork, thank you for sharing!
Excellent graphics
And I never would have caught that crossover if you hadn't pointed it out. It has me grinning like an idiot.
Calling All Thralls!
Thranduil needs our help!
If you start at page one, you can see how the numbers changed over the course of a week or so... But Haldir is hotter than Thranduil? HUH? And Frodo is tied with Thranduil?? Someone out there needs glasses. LOL
http://www.imdb.com/...d/nest/225090297?p=7
I don't see why not
We're getting quite an EE wish list going, aren't we? But I say, if I can watch Gone with the Wind in one sitting then I can handle any length the DOS EE ends up being. Bring it on, PJ!
Whoa, that's awesome!
I totally did not make the connection that they use the same words! Cool! Like father like son, I guess.
Very nice artwork. I wish I could figure out how to do that kind of thing. You're very talented!
A Sleepness Malice
OMG I didn't make the connection either! Where's my head? I need to see DoS again but it's no longer playing in the cinema near me. *cries*
I sent you a link...
To the scene in question (DoS).
*warning fangirling ahead* Thranduil is just the hottest, most badass elf there is, isn't he? What a combo, his physicality, his seductive voice, that hair, his way with clothes and the absolutely gobsmacking gorgeousness that has knocked me out for the night. *thud*
What a wonderful graphic!
and use of the phrases, especially with them facing each other. It really shows a similarity too.
Absolutely agree
I'm a Legolas fangirl of old, but Thranduil has just blown him out of the water for me. The Elven King has been the character I most anticipated in The Hobbit and he is far better than I hoped. Just breathtaking. I just wish he had been in DOS more than he was, in fact almost every scene would have done for me. I'm just hoping the EE expands his part and of course we still have BotFA to enjoy yet.
I really couldn't have put it better myself!
Totally agree Nimloth
I was feeling really excited about seeing Legolas again in the Hobbit movies....then I encountered Thranduil, who is indeed breathtaking. He just oozes charisma from every elven pore. It was hearing his voice in the trailer - I can remember thinking "Who is That?!" Sorry Legolas - time to move over for your old man!
So Thranduil is our LIGWIT - Legolas Is Great, Who Is That?!
Bilbo in Thranduil's Halls.
So true Rowan G. I would love to see at least half to an hour of scenes added back for the EE and most of that should be added to the first half of the film which, as everyone has noted, was so truncated.Wow ! If Bilbo had witnessed that highly charged confrontation between Thranduil and Thorin I think he would have been shaking in his boots, in awe of them both!
Thanks so much RG - what you've written here has lifted me out of my prolonged work funk (I've had to take work home which has been terribly dreary). I feel like I want to print this out and carry around with me to read during tedious little RL moments, to remind me of the beauty in this story, and in our hobbit, and in our favourite Elven king. *heart swells*
Elf lady, you said it!
Now that you've put that fangirling moment into words... I hear ya, sister!
Just...wow
... on that Sleepless Malice moment, CoF!
Also, your previous lot of gorgeous photoshopping - is that the trailer scene where Thranduil says "I offer you my help." ?
That almost undid me, when I first saw the trailer on an Imax screen. So... much ... huge screen gorgeousness.
I think Elf Lady has put me in fangirling mode. I'd better think of something serious to say.
Do you need to be serious on this thread?!
After all, its purpose is to appreciate Thranduil and you're doing a great job of that!
Wine and errant staff
(excuse my mass posting, all. At the moment I've only got like one hour of spare time each day, and this is it!)
I like that Thranduil is into fine wine. While I write, I am currently sipping a rather cheap but pleasant Australian Cab Sav - I don't think it would make the grade at the king's table however.
So I was wondering where he might get his wine from. Where would the best wine regions of Middle Earth be? Possibly the lands down south? Would the Shire produce some wines even, that might interest his palate?
Speaking of wine, and speaking of errant elven staff who like to sneakily sample it to their own detriment.... and, apart from the book canon, this initially seemed so odd to me. Drunken snoring elves - how uncouth! Isn't that more a sort of man or hobbit behaviour? Even elves have their vices and bad behaviour and this makes them more "human" to me. I like.
But I digress, because I meant to tell this story: I actually met one of Thranduil's staff !
I was at a New Year's Eve party in Auckland, when a guy introduced himself to the group I was in. In typical fashion, someone asked "So what do you do?"
"I'm an actor" said this guy. "Oh, what have you acted in?"
"Actually, I played an elf in The Hobbit. I had a really small speaking role."
I looked at him and immediately picked it. "You're the Keeper of the Keys!" He looked impressed - he probably has most people say "So which one were you then?"
He told me he had to study Elvish for two weeks in order to exchange that one line with Legolas at the gate.
I am a little shy in social situations so I didn't want to badger him any further. But in hindsight, I am kicking myself. I should have pinned him down and quizzed him endlessly.
Did he meet Lee on set? Did they do any scenes together for the EE or TABA? Did he study Elvish alongside Lee? What was he like? What was it like? Tell me everything!!!
*pours another glass of Cab Sav, ponders on the nature of introversion*
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Girls (and guys - if we have any in this thread xD) , many thanks for the nice comments on the graphics and nice that i could "enlighten" you :x .. but really stop it, you make me blush
I have these "ooh I#ve heard that before" moments so often in the cinema, it was the same with the goblin kings "You know of whom I speak" ... bling .. Galadriel was in my head
I wanted to have them facing each other, I have to check when I'm back home if the thranduil pic was like that or if I flipped it over .. I also love the opposite colors. The warm red and the cold blue, they were already in that shades but i adjusted the color.. aya, lol .. neat-picking.
is that the trailer scene where Thranduil says "I offer you my help."
Aye, the black/white & color photo is the "I offer you my help"-pic from the trailer .. I think I have watched this scene a 1000 times (at least) by now. I simply love it .. aww.. I already upgraded my data-volume on the mobile that i can enjoy the things on youtube. Weird, really
@Eruvandi
the sleepless malice pic is pretty simple to make (and I think one could also do it with freeware programs like gimp/irfan-view), if anybody would be interested in I could do a little tutorial with screencaps.
and no, we don't have to be too serious in here, i think that's why we have the drool-thread, right? xD
Wow that's amazing!
I think I would have been lost for words at that moment too. I always think of things I wish I'd said when I've left a conversation! You'll have to keep a list of questions with you just in case you happen to bump into another staff member on your travels!
I suppose Thranduil should have excellent taste in wine by now - he must have tried almost all of the wines in ME!
Yes, the drunken Elves seemed strange at first, when thinking about Legolas' 'slight tingle' in his fingers in ROTK during the drinking game with Gimli. I suppose Elven wine is more potent, and they had probably drunk a considerable amount during their celebration.
Although I was thinking - how often do you have prisoners?! Surely Thranduil isn't running a jail! I would have thought that because of the probable rare occurrence of having prisoners, at least the on-duty guards, even though it was a feast/celebration night, would have remained sober! But then, of course, if that was the case, the dwarves would still be in there!
I like the idea of Thranduil confiscating his errant staff's wine supply after they let the dwarves escape!
Oh and *cough*, another name-drop moment
The party was at Neil Finn's house!
Not where Neil actually lives, but a house owned by him.
It's currently rented by his studio engineer at Roundhouse Studios, and this dude was hosting the party.
I am pretty sure it's the guy who is in the AUJ EE extra about the music, driving the mixing desk while Neil Finn records Misty Mountains.
It's all "six degrees of..." round these here parts :)
( LOL - NZ is so small, I have several little six degrees examples. Eg. my best friend used to date Johnny "Hama" Leigh... I used to write radio ads that were voiced by David "Butterbur" Weatherley... and - get this - for three months, we lived next door to Celeborn. Also met Mark Hadlow once at a product launch - he is every bit the hoot he is on the EE extras)
Woah...I'll just pick up those names for you!
Right Kerewyn, you now have no excuse for not carrying round a list of questions with you. The way you're going, you're destined to meet the Elvenking himself! Better be prepared!
Ooh, just thought of my own (which is nowhere near as impressive as yours!) but my brother's best friend, who is also a family friend, had several auditions for the part of Legolas in LOTR. It came down to him and Orlando Bloom, and Orlando obviously succeeded. Our friend is 10 years older than OB, and much as I love our friend, Orlando is also prettier! I think if Jo had succeeded, it would have made scenes with Thranduil awkward. Although he's aged well, he's now aged 47, so a great deal of CGI work would have been needed! He would probably have made a better Dwarf for the Hobbit! Still, I often wonder what could have been. I certainly would have visited NZ. And had he succeeded and been called back for the Hobbit, he would have worked with Lee...ok need to lie down now!
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Those "ooh I've heard that before moments"
Ah, I wish I had more of those!
Not a Thrandy moment, but I noticed that in 'Riddles in the Dark' when Gollum says "up up up it goes".... much as he does on ROTK when describing the winding stairs.
Otherwise, I am more prone to "where have I seen that actor before" moments. It can really bug me - in a good way - when watching movies, when I see a semi-familiar face who I can't quite pick by name.
300 posts of appreciating Thranduil!
Do we get a special prize for that? Or can we have the thread nailed to the front page?!
But I am HOPELESS when confronted with favourite actors...
Thrandruiliel, you make me quite faint as I consider that (im)possibility! However, I would let everyone down, I know it - because in the presence of stars, I become this human guppy. I am just too starstruck - all rational thought and sensible discourse and intelligent conversation that will impress them with my wit - all leaves my head, and I just want to blurt out "I LOVE you!"
Example - here in Melbourne where I now work (I travel to NZ twice a year to hang with family), I work at a big radio station, and around the time that 'Lost' was on TV, Dom Monaghan and Evie Lilley were doing the promotional rounds. I was not even aware of this until the day (uncannily, I was browsing TORn at the time when I should have been working) I became aware of a commotion going on in the foyer. I walked out, and there was Dom in our foyer, posing for a photo with a number of female staff.
It was so unexpected - I was so stunned, I couldn't move, I couldn't speak, I couldn't even rush forward and get in the photo. I just stood there with my mouth open. Then his PR ushered him out of the building. A fellow staff member found me quietly fangirling in the kitchen. All I could say was "OMG... OMG".
Wow, though, fancy if your friend Jo did get the part! Yeah... it might have meant choosing an older looking actor for Thranduil (like the way Elrond is timeless yet older looking) in order to make that work.
I have another moment! I was once *cough* in a hotel room with Sandro Kopp (dashing elf/ Narnia centaur extra) wearing a bathrobe and posing for a self-portrait. (it was nowhere near as saucy as it sounds) Thankfully I wasn't a total gibbering mess on this occasion.
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*raises glass of wine to our prolific appreciation*
Sticky us - or long live our bookmarks!
(off to bed now)
Haha, I'm sure you're not alone!
It sounds like you're quite the star-magnet, Kerewyn! I myself am more of a repellant, having met very few actors/famous people, so I can't say how I'd react. I would probably become very tongue-tied.
Now you mention it, had Jo been cast and they then had to cast an older actor to play Thranduil, we would have missed out on Lee's performance. So some things are meant to be!
Have to say I'm curious as to what you were doing in that hotel room!
...Kerewyn - may your dreams be sweet and Thranduil-filled!
Nothing but the best wine for Thranduil's Halls!
Dorwinion wine...a staple in lots of LOTR fan fiction. LOL.
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Dorwinion
I love that he's into wine, too! Wine is an essential food group. I'm partial to Bordeaux and NZ Sauv Blanc. I think the strong wine those two were enjoying was Dorwinion wine but I'm not sure where it comes from. Anyone? ETA: Ah, elf-lady posted a link. (Thanks!)
What a chance meeting! I predict he was touched someone actually recognized him. I hope I'd recognize him if I saw him as he was on screen long enough. He says something to Legolas like "What about Tauriel?" followed by something along the lines of her leaving with her bow and blade, right?
Perhaps you'll run into him again and you can ask him that list of questions. Keep scoring invites to those parties! It sounds like the Aussie/NZ acting world is a small, tight-knit community.
Speaking of random elves, I also love the "not an elf maiden" elf from Rivendell:
I love merlot and cabs
...but don't like anything oaked (like chardonnay).
Yeah, he's a looker as well. What cheekbones!
This thread has been mentioned in the Weekly Roundup!
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/02/03/86685-torn-message-boards-weekly-roundup-february-2-2014/
Way to go Thranduil's Thralls!
We made the news!
MyPrecioussss
Lots of misconceptions about shipping and fanfiction in this thread
I've been in fandom for about 15 years now, and I've been writing fanfiction for close to a decade. I'll be the first to say that in all that time in fandom, I've seen plenty of shipping and fanfiction that I personally found ludicrous and/or repulsive, and I also agree that real-person shipping crosses a line that shouldn't be touched with a ten-foot pole.
But that said, I always find it sad when I see people--especially other fans--turning up their noses at fanfic and other fan creations. I think there are two very important things to remember when it comes to fanfic:
1. It's all done out of love for the fictional universe and the characters. Yes, even the most godawful self-insert "Mary Sue" fic (I could go on a tangent here about how the whole Mary Sue witch hunt is pretty misogynistic and problematic in and of itself, but that would be a whole other post, so I'll refrain). And yes, even the most ridiculous, out of character shipping or slash fanfic. The people who write those fics don't do it because they're trying to disrespect the characters or the author of the original work. They do it because they love the characters and want to explore avenues that weren't there in the original canon. You or I may find their particular explorations bizarre or downright distasteful, but 99.9% of the time they're still done out of a genuine love for and interest in the original canon.
Moreover, lumping in ALL shipping and fanfic with the "bad apples," so to speak, is pretty unfair. Yes, there's a lot of crappy, poorly written fanfiction out there, but you know what? There's a lot of really poorly written original fiction out there, too. (Just look at Twilight.) Fanfic is like anything else: sometimes you have to wade through a lot of mediocre stuff before you find the gems. And yes, there are gems. Remember how I said shippers and fanfic writers do so out of a love for the canon and characters? There are countless fic writers who spend HOURS not just writing, but researching and discussing and poring over the characters and their personalities, relationships and motivations, figuring out what makes them tick. To imply fanfic is nothing but the work of perverts and giggly 13-year-olds is doing a disservice to all the talented writers out there who devote an immense amount of time to making sure their work is as polished, thoughtful, and in-character as it can be.
2. Whenever fanfic detractors point to authors like GRRM who virulently hate fanfic, one really important fact tends to get overlooked: once an artist, writer, filmmaker, etc releases their work out into the world, they no longer have 100% control over that work and how it's perceived. I'm not talking about ownership and copyright issues, I'm talking about how a work and its characters are interpreted. Once the work is published and people start to consume it, those people are going to form their own ideas and interpretations of the work, whether the author likes it or not. The author loses the right to say, "No, you're interpreting that WRONG! This is how I meant it!" I mean, they can try saying that until they're blue in the face, but that doesn't mean they'll succeed. And quite honestly, I think anyone who can't understand or accept that fact shouldn't be a writer. Because it's really part of the beauty of writing (or art, or filmmaking, or whatever): you release it into the world, and then other people get to make of it what they will. And frankly, if everyone just had all the same interpretations of art and literature and such, even if they were the official, creator-endorsed interpretations, it would be a pretty boring world.
So all that to say...if you don't like fanfic, you're entitled to your opinion, but just try to keep in mind that, like so many other things, it has plenty of good to offset its not-so-good parts.
How about some Thranduil? ;-)
One can never have enough postings regarding Lee Pace/Thranduil
I do hope that in the EE we get more views of the halls to his Woodland Realm and perhaps some mention of the loss of his father at the Battle of the Last Alliance...
Thranduil deserves nothing better than
some Brunello di Montalcino, believe me I live exactly at two hours' distance from where they make it
Unfortunately I am never invited to parties with cool New Zealand actors
I do agree. It's not everyone's cuppa but personally I do enjoy a well written fic that has canonical character development that makes sense. I especially enjoy reading "what could have been" or "what might be occurring just beyond your sight".
Well said...
I've read a good number of absolutely brilliant fanfics over the years in multiple fandoms, and have written my own as well (not for a long time, and not in this fandom as yet). As in all writing, there is a lot of terrible stuff out there, but when you come across a gem that makes you smile, laugh or think - it can be well worth it. Interestingly, Corey Olsen (The Tolkien Professor) has some very interesting thoughts on the nature of fan fiction on one of his latest Riddles in the Dark podcasts. I'll see if I can find some time to transcribe some of it.
To bring this back to Thranduil, I haven't actually read very many fanfics which do him justice. I think partially because he's quite enigmatic in the book, and there just isn't enough of him in the film. If anyone has fic recs featuring a great Thranduil, please PM me some links. I'd love to read them (het, slash or gen).
On a completely other tangent which I'm finding interesting... my husband doesn't appreciate Thranduil in the film at all, going so far as to say he has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and I cannot seem to convince him otherwise. He has not read the book, which truly is even stranger since he's read both LoTR and the Sil. He promises he will read it before TABA comes out though.
So...much...fangirling
Shy, introverted Thralls
Oh how familiar I am with that feeling of kicking myself for not talking to someone I really wanted to talk to because I was too shy. Hey, you did better than I would have. I'm getting better at talking to regular people but for some reason just the thought of talking to someone "famous" or even "famous adjacent" makes my brain freeze up. I probably could have carried on a light conversation with the "keeper of the keys" but not much more. (btw, kudos to you for recognizing him. You probably made his day! ) I certainly wouldn't have been able to come out of my shell enough to pin the poor unsuspecting man down and quiz him.
I can't even imagine what I would do if I ran into Lee Pace himself. I've got such a horrible crush on him by this time I don't think I could even look him in the eye much less breathe or talk! Then if he smiled at me with that gorgeous, hunky, sweet, smile of his, I'd probably pass out entirely! Why does shyness/introversion have to be so frustrating?! And why does Lee Pace have to be so dang cute that I wouldn't even be able to look at him much less talk to him? Gaaaa!
*deep breath* Sorry. I just had to get that out of my system.
an older introvert
I have always considered myself an introvert yet I believe I would not behave any differently around a famous person than around "regular" people. Perhaps it is because I am older now and most of the stars we have been discussing are younger than me therefore I would feel no reason to be abashed amongst these "whippersnappers". I may not feel as confident meeting my elders, such as Sir Ian or PJ (is he my elder? I turned 50 last year). Or perhaps it is because I am a New Yorker and we are renown for being unruffled around the famous folks. Perhaps because I've already met a famous person (Glenn Close) and had a lovely time chatting at the zoo during a tour with her family. Or maybe I am just talking big and I would indeed become a puddle if RA were to appear at my side during a trip on the NYC subway (my best friend, a BIG Sting fan, had that exact thing happen to her and she just froze as he stood next to her on the train).
I would relish the chance to test my mettle -- bring 'em on!
Oh they were, Thranduiliel, they were.
(Really, they were. Can't recall anything that happened, just... his presence. Nice.)
"The wine of Dorwinion brings deep and pleasant dreams."
Ah yes! After getting offline last night, I decided I really should dip into the book itself, and there was the answer.
My cheap Cab Save also brought pleasant dreams - see my post above.
I shall nickname this wine Dorwinion from now on.
On fanfiction...my experience
I agree with much of what My Precious says, and I can also fully understand that it's not for everyone.
I sometimes trawl through fanfiction sites looking for the good stuff, and when I find it, it can be really inspiring. I think what really gets me, as MP says, is the love of the characters shining through. I have even read some FF that I'd describe as quite badly written, but which still sticks in my mind for the spirit and passion that comes shining through. Back when I joined TORn, some users posted links to their fave FFs and I found that following recommendations was good - I read some hobbit FF that I really liked, from authors who were prolific and had quite a following.
I have written a little myself, but have been too shy to share it. I even half-submitted a piece to fanfiction.net but didn't complete the submission - my excuse being i could not think of an adequate title. (the obvious title stares me down now, years later, and taunts me with my shyness).
S'funny, I realise I have written fanfiction all my life, very privately for my own enjoyment. When I was a kid, it was The Wombles, Gilligan's Island, Batman the TV show (I loved Catwoman), and later, Hitchhiker's Guide. I would write stories or draw cartoons with these characters and share them only with my appreciative little sister. But they were our secret. I feared being laughed at or teased or scorned, and that has persisted into adulthood, where I seem to have trouble even posting them anonymously online. And so, I admire people who do, who are willing and unafraid to share their fan passion with other likeminded fans who will appreciate their work.
As a wannabe writer who regularly takes part in Nanwrimo, it is not always easy to realise and invent your own characters when you love love love these amazing already existing ones.
On introversion and beauty
It's like a deer in the headlights moment. Dazzled by the shining charism, and also the unexpectedness of it. Do some of us simply have the kind of brains that switch off in the presence of beauty?
It is quite a wonderful thing, I think, to be suddenly 'arrested', taken out of oneself, by a sudden and astonishing landscape that you see when you round a corner. Or the iridescant blue of a flower by the roadside, or the pattern of long grass rippling in the wind, or the contrast of bright green moss against bright red brick. You forget where you're at, for the moment, and move into this headspace, where the logical left brain is superceded by our right brain (if my knowledge of this serves me correctly). This particularly happens for creative people I think, or types who appreciate art. (eg Thralls)
I'm sure the same can happen when encountering human beauty, and physically rendering one speechless as the right brain takes over.
Or the hormones.
And back to Thranduil, the topic of this thread....
I've often wondered what those who didn't read the book thought of Thranduil. Most of us have read Tolkien and are familiar with Thranduil's background, as are most of my friends.
I'm trying to imagine how he would come across if I knew nothing about the character except what I see on screen--especially without the benefit of the AUJ EE.
I know I'd still find him mesmerizing, and I believe I'd still see the complexity of his character. (That's due to Pace's superb acting.) But had we seen him through Bilbo's eyes, I think that would have helped temper some of the "he's a jerk" comments from those unfamiliar with the character (canon). Sadly, the conversation he had with Tauriel about the spiders / Legolas thinking she fought well / Legolas being fond of her and how he won't sanction the match turned off most of my friends. Everyone, myself included, was like: "Your kingdom is under attack--don't you have more important things to discuss and worry about!?"
Some repeat postings but I need my fix before I go to work:
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An answer for you,Thranduiliel
It sounds like you're quite the star-magnet, Kerewyn!
Well let's keep fingers crossed and hope I don't make a fool of myself!
A quick explanation of the hotel room.
It was possibly 2005 or 2006... I was attending a small LOTR con in Canberra. It was quite relaxed, with the guests mainly being Weta and production staff, and Kiwi supporting actors and stunt people. Sandro Kopp was sketching portaits for people. At the end of the night, the venue staff wanted to close up and he still had three of us hanging out with him waiting out turn, so he invited us up to his hotel room to finish off the portraits.
I joined someone on the balcony for a one-off cigarette, and it was quite cold out there, being mid-winter, so Sandro offered me his hotel bathrobe as an extra layer over my clothes. I just continued to wear it while having my portrait done too. (We respected his privacy and left once he was done.)
Lee really brought him alive for me.
RG, I could almost be this non-reader person.
Having read The Hobbit only in recent years (and not knowing any more of Thranduil's history), the Elvenking in the book was pretty much two-dimensional to me. Not a character I paid much regard to. I understood him to be stern and pretty much in charge, and not someone to cross. His imprisoning of the Dwarves impacted me more than the softening of his character later on.
Movie Thranduil is, as you say, so mesmerising, it completely kicked me awake. But on the surface, on that first viewing, he did come across to me as someone cold and uncaring, glittering like a diamond and just as hard.
I like to look into these things though. A difficult and seemingly bad character often has a painful and heart-breaking back story that makes them who they are.
(case in point being, if you'll excuse the fandom crossover, Loki in the Marvel universe, another beloved character I follow intently. Speaking of Marvel, who can't wait to see Lee as Ronan the Accuser??)
But back to Thranduil. I asked a non-reader friend what they thought of His Magnificence. The answer was "scary". And "Can you blame Legolas for being more hardcore in this one? Look who his dad is."
I am hoping to attend another screening soon with my non-reader BF, so I am keen to get his pure unadulterated thoughts directly after.
Thank you Thralls...
...for putting up with my rambling stream of multiple posts during my limited online time!
I so love and look forward to absorbing the posts and photos here when my time swings around again.
*off to bed with a lighter heart*
Thranduil...first impressions
This is difficult to imagine for me since I've been a Tolkien reader since the age of 16 (back in the First Age it seems!). My first impression of the Elvenking back then was he (and his people) were mysterious and somewhat tricky. But since my impression of the dwarves was that they were trespassing and only after gold I was thinking "well, what did you think was going to happen?!" haha
So it's even more difficult trying to be objective seeing movie Thranduil because 1) I knew more about elves in general and all about Legolas (thanks to LOTR) specifically, 2) Lee Pace did an absolutely brilliant job as the king and I was somewhat blinded by his beauty and I was thinking "why is the Elvenking paying homage to Thror (in AUJ)? He would not have left his halls without good cause (of course this was remediated in the EE) and 3) I'm just more an elf fancier.
I agree that Thranduil would have made a "better" impression had PJ shown Bilbo sneaking around the halls and seeing the king in a different light. However, I do think the version we got shows Thranduil is so very different from other elves like Elrond or Galadriel. He's dangerous (a little like the Galadhrim).
My husband has the same opinion as yours, Thyia
My husband has never read any Tolkien material and loves the LOTR films, while not feeling the same passion for the Hobbit films so far. He absolutely loved the Elves at Helms Deep (I know!) and how Haldir appeared to save the day, citing the Elves' alliance with men as their reason. Conversely, when he saw Thranduil, another blonde Elf, and Legolas' father no less, locking up our hero Dwarves, let's say he was less than impressed. He said he found him weak and dishonourable. We had quite a discussion about it, with me giving him some backstory, explaining that these particular elves and dwarves had no such alliance - quite the opposite, and how Thranduil is different to Elrond and Galadriel. I have suggested he may change his mind about Thranduil by the end of TABA and he's remaining open-minded about it right now. My younger teenaged daughter didn't like Thranduil either, as she's a huge RA/Thorin fan, so she wasn't impressed by him locking Thorin up either. I'm facing some stiff opposition at home, I can tell you!
I hadn't read the Hobbit before I saw DOS
I found Thranduil to be mesmerising in the trailers - first his voice, then seeing him more animated than the brief sighting we had in AUJ - I couldn't wait to see his scenes in DOS. Before that, I always had a kind of casual interest in him just by virtue of the fact that he is Legolas' father. But Lee Pace's performance and appearance just blew me away. I didn't notice him much in AUJ (not that there was much to notice), but for me, it was the voice that sealed the deal!
One thing I loved during my repeated viewings was the audience reaction to Thranduil saying "I know you're there" to Tauriel, when we think he's addressing Bilbo. Many people collectively gasped when Thranduil suddenly appeared before Bilbo. And there were a lot of laughs when Thranduil freed the orc's head from his miserable shoulders!
Haha, awesome!
Thanks for that, Kerewyn - sounds like a top bloke, and seems you had a fantastic experience there!
swordwhale
oh....definitely .... Thrrrrrrranduillllllllllll
I once, back in the 70's (1977 actually), borrowed a tent from a second cousin twice removed, so I could spend a week on a desert island called Assateague. He told me about this game they played: D&D. I showed up, rolled up a character, waved the paper at the DM and said, "What do I make of this?"
"Play an Elf."
"What?" You mean like Hermie, in Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer?
"Read Lord of the Rings."
A Star Wars pen pal had gifted me with a stack of intimidating verbiage not long before this. "You must read Lord of the Rings" quothe she. Now I had an excuse to delve into its epic depths... I had to figure out who these Elves were, because ... because I recognized something in a Judy King-Reniets illo of the Fellowship, specifically the blond guy with the bow. .. because the DM in the aforementioned game recognized me already channelling the Elven archetype... because the darn blond bow guy could talk to horses (Rohan, Arod, no saddle, 'nuff said).
When I finally got around to reading the Hobbit, Thranduil (aka Legolas' daddy) was my favorite character.
Darn pesky Dwarves.
"Nuff said.
I live in Penn's Woods (Pennsylvania) which can be fairly mirky, and we did, in fact, have a senator named Greenelaf.
Really. Stewart J. Yes, he even has a website....
http://www.senatorgreenleaf.com/
"Judge me by my size, would you?" Max the Hobbit Husky.
Age and gender trigger my shyness even more than fame
The vast majority of the stars we've discussed are at least 10 years older than me (LP is 12yrs older) and as we all know the majority of the TH actors are male and I'm way less comfortable around men in general then women. No particular reason, it's just the way my brain works. I honestly think I could talk to Evangeline Lily or Cate Blanchet and be pretty comfortable about it. It would just feel like girl talk to me. But with the guys? Nope. Total brain shutdown. Especially if they're anywhere between the ages of 20-39 and even then it's complicated. Luke Evans is 34 and I think I could talk to him (maybe because we have Welsh ancestry in common so I'd have a way to relate to him?), but RA is 42 and I think I'd get nervous. Then PJ is 52 and I'd probably be dumbstruck, but 42yr old Martin Freeman and any of the dwarf cast (except Dean O'Gorman and Aidan Turner) I'd be just fine. Then there's Orlando Bloom and Benedict Cumberbatch who are 36 and 37 respectively. Nope. I so could not handle it.
Well, at least it makes life more interesting...
pie makers and actors
I've never seen Pushing Daisies, but the tumblr posts are endless, so I feel like I've seen it. And yes, it says something for Lee Pace's ability to be that derpy cute let me squoosh'im guy AND The Elvenking.
My fear is that the Elves will be too "Vulcan"... in the books they showed a capacity for deep emotion and empathy. I do think Lee Pace is doing a wonderful job with the subtle emotions playing out on his face.. and in his body language.
He's just lovely.
whoa...........
nice....... stuff...........
I think you just nailed something I've been trying to say all along...
It continually irks me that we can't allow guys (or anyone else) to have deep feelings for each other without sex being involved.
I suppose one should say ship and let ship (as far as fandom goes), but... really now! Can't we just be friends.
And the grunty Neanderthal stereotype that is so popular in my homeland (Penn's Woods) is perhaps why I remain cheerfully single.
Where ARE those bloody Elves...
I agree, mostly
My ships all have masts, canvas sails, and cannons.
I prefer my fanfic and art to have canon.
I think I understand where the impetus comes from, for all the shipping fic and art; girls who overlay their own "feels" onto the male characters they've fallen in love with... (note it is not legit gay guys writing this stuff).
= "romance" etc.
Somebody with a PhD has probably psychoanalyzed this somewhere...
If you are legit LGBT, I will stand by you, sword raised against the idiots. I'll avoid the slashy stuff in my fanfic though....
I had to go look it up.....
..... on wiki. El James, 50 Shades of....whatever...
GAWD!@$#$!??!!
Excuse me while I rant........
First the Twicrap gets all kinds of attention and makes a gazillion bucks for someone who can't write worth diddley#*%&^%!! Then someone fanfics it, changes the names and gets famous?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I write and commit art. It has ties to Middle-earth (as well as everything else I absorbed from Flipper, Roy Rogers, Sea Hunt and the Lone Ranger to faerie tales, mythology, Star Trek and Star Wars). I'm working multiple horrible minimum wage jobs to survive.
Still writing.
Have no hope for the tastes of the Muggles.
Well, there's you guys on TORN....
indeed.........
I think it may have been Theodore Sturgeon who said 99% of everything is crappola....
We must muddle along knowing that fandom will spawn some.
And perhaps they will grow, learn, and become intelligent creative people.
Meanwhile... scroll, scroll, scroll real fast...
in ROTK, I think it was local human made wine....
in Hobbit the line goes something like "must have been strong stuff to make a wood-elf drowsy" (from memory, maybe not perfect).....
sweet! sweeter!
Indeed, carry a notebook.
The six degrees thing is weirdly accurate.. even for those of us on the other side of the planet.
I met a nice English lady who, when I asked what part of England she was from, she said New Zealand.
And I once was taught how to drive a pirate ship (took the wheel on a guest crew passage on the Pride of Baltimore II) by someone who had walked the same planks as Orlando Bloom (she'd crewed on the Lady Washington, the ship they stea... uh.... commandeer, it's a nautical term.. in the first Pirates film).
And the sled dog picnic on New Year's Day coughed up a discussion of Kiwis: birds, fruit, and inhabitants of the mystical land of Middle Earth... one of whom was there... and had visited Hobbiton....
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGHH!!!
I am so going to NZ if I ever get the $$$$....
I think if I hadn't read the book or seen the AUJ EE I would probably be wondering what Thranduil's problem is. I mean, if you don't know his background or anything about his thought process, I think he would just seem like a bit of a cold, pompous, jerk for acting the way that he does towards, well, pretty much everyone. I think there would be a lot of questions left in your mind. "Why didn't he help the dwarves way back when? Why does he seem to have a personal issue with Thorin? Why did his face just melt off? Why did he lock up the dwarves? Was it just because he's greedy and they won't give him the gems? Why is the outside world none of his concern? Why does he have such a problem with Legolas and Tauriel being together? Why did he get that weird look on his face when the orc said 'my master serves The One'? Why did he lie to the orc and kill him when he said he'd let them go? Is he really that much of a jerk?" Did I forget anything? Oh yeah, "And why does he own a cape if he's not going to twirl it?"
Then again, I think the apparent complexity of the character would hopefully lead the casual viewer to look for answers and realize that he must have some reason for being the way that he is and perhaps under that jaded yet ridiculously attractive exterior there is indeed a heart, thereby setting up his character arc in TABA.
Spot on, Eruvandi!
BIB - this is the most burning question of all! What a waste of a fabulous cape, just to leave it lying on his throne! It darn well needs a good twirl and fling, and I will be extremely disappointed if we do not see that in the EE!
I looked up Corey Olsen and found him in....
my backyard!!!!!!!!!!
"...currently teaches in the English Department at Washington College, a delightful little liberal-arts college in Chestertown, on Maryland�s Eastern Shore. There he lectures in Chaucer, Arthurian literature, courtly love, the Bible, Greco-Roman mythology, and a full-semester course on the works of Tolkien."
Chestertown is a colonial town on the Chester River, which flows out into the Chesapeake bay past Eastern Neck Island (where I often kayak, and have spent some time on local tall ships). C-town itself has a lovely historic district, beautiful old buildings, wonderful architecture, great eateries, shops, galleries. A wonderful waterfront, dogs everywhere (it's very dog-friendly), woogity woogity brick sidewalks, and the coolest tall ship festival anywhere on the east coast (Downrigging Weekend on Halloween weekend, where you can not only dress like a pirate but sail on a "pirate ship", or trick or treat and get treats from the "pirates").
Not exactly the Grey Havens, but close.
http://www.tolkienprofessor.com/wp/about/professor-olsen/
my pics of Chestertown here:
http://www.swordwhale.com/downrigging-2010.html
As for Thranduil (I digressed there).......
All the characters in the Hobbit are enigmatic, simplified, the sort you find in oral tradition faerie tales. They are frameworks for us to hang our own interpretations and experiences on...
...until you read the more complex rest of Tolkien's world.
With that background, you should be able to see deeper into any of the characters, especially Thranduil. he gives us some clues to his character in The Hobbit... and more clues in the character of his son in LOTR.
I personally think Legolas is often just seen by film fans as "the hot Elf" when there is so much more to his character, if you pay attention to what he says and does in LOTR. I hope we don't only get "the hot Elf" thing with Thranduil, as there is so much more potential in that complex character.
He remains one of my favorites of Middle earth. Perhaps largely because he is a "wood-elf", living in the dark forest, close to the natural world, depending on it, defending it, and standing at the edge of darkness trying to hang onto the light.
Yeah, I fanficked here: (also some essays)...
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/290949/Teanna
I can relate to that. I was an only child, and a highly Sensitive Person (read the book Highly Sensitive Person By Elaine Aron PhD) and likely had an ADD brainstyle as well, so I did not relate well to other kids (animals, yes, kids... gawd they were evil little bleepity bleeps).
My fandoms: books, TV shows etc, were very secret, as were my stories (told only to myself). I was horribly embarrassed to have to stand up and read anything I wrote in class... even embarrassed to hear some other kid read a story about Star Trek or some other thing I loved. It was as if it was a deep secret that i loved those things and would be ridiculed if They Knew...
This may be one of the obsatcles we face trying to become professionals, to get our adult work out there.
that and an inability to type well....
I just don't get it. At all.
...is a fair parallel. A difficult and complex character who, in the myths, is not a villain at first (he's THE archetypal Trickster).
Where Loki channels some of that Elvish beauty (pleeeeeeease cast Tom Hiddleston as an Elf, pleeeeeeez), Thranduil channels perhaps a bit of the Trickster in his Wood Elf King. Or at least, the Ice King/frost giant........
Wait, let's just take that and run with it for a moment...
Thor is the blunt, brawny, forthright, Golden Hero. What you see is what you get. Lightning bolts and thunder.
Loki is complex, subtle, sensitive, the Highly Sensitive Person (Elaine Aron, book) ...Priest/advisor class to Thor's Warrior King.
Thorin: blunt, in your face. Lightning bolts and thunder.
Thranduil: subtle, sensitive, complex, but hiding much of it under the necessary armour.
Archetypes keep popping up everywhere, that's why they're archetypes.
I get that.....
What I'd do now... ??!!???
...back (mumble mumble) years ago I met George Takei (Sulu) at a convention and stood in line (in a Middle-earthish medieval costume) for an autograph, and when I got there the only thing I had to sign was a leather wine/waterskin (which he kindly signed, and i promptly lost at the Pennsic Wars). I blorted something cheerful to the effect that "You know when all those other girls were lusting after Chekov? I was lusting after Sulu!" (I was, um, in 6, 7th and 8th grade when original Trek aired). (Oh great blessings upon you Uncle George because you are a truly classy gentleman)... he chuckled and said something cute, and signed my wineskin. (sigh, the best ones are married, dead, gay or fictional). He still has the best facebook page ever.
I was such a derp.
Now I would say something like, "I really enjoy your work!" Period, "nuff said. Smile, subtext, I appreciate you as a Creative Person and Professional bringing us great joy.
I am a derp.
"He's fictional but you can't have everything" .//
Thranduil and his 'props'? :-)
Who has the statue? I do and love the design. I pre-ordered the staff and hope it arrives soon! With any luck, they will release his sword and crown once TABA hits the theaters. I'd love to add both to my small collection.
If the crown would be full-sized...
I'd be likely to embarrass my family by shamelessly parading around wearing it! =)
Good night, Thralls...
Lovely still from the "All things Thranduil" video clip:
Sadly, no
I don't have the money to buy any such figurines. :(
It's probably for the best though because I would find that one highly distracting!
Senses and skills
One thing I loved during my repeated viewings was the audience reaction to Thranduil saying "I know you're there" to Tauriel, when we think he's addressing Bilbo. Many people collectively gasped when Thranduil suddenly appeared before Bilbo. And there were a lot of laughs when Thranduil freed the orc's head from his miserable shoulders!____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
I love how Bilbo is so visibly relieved when Tauriel appears out of the shadows. But for that spilt second on my first viewing - I was immediately impressed by this Elven King who was able to see - or sense - an invisible hobbit.
The 'head from shoulders' scene perfectly showcases Thranduil's impeccable mastery with a blade - and you've gotta love the flourish with which he sheaves his sword again as he walks away. Would love to see a frontal shot of that moment.
The statue, and your photo RG
Hmm, I may have to think about this!
I currently have Eowyn and the Witch King facing each other down on the top of a tall book case, but soon I am getting some shelves done, which will give them a much better display place. (I also have a small half-Gollum) This shelf may urgently require some regal presence.
Re that lovely photo from you RG, of Lee being prepped. That video is great, (if that was MY Hand, I would not be washing Lee's DNA off in a hurry) and I truly hope we get even more on the EE, that we haven't yet seen. It would be disappointing to eagerly click on that appendices feature, then realise I've already seen it. But they don't release that material ahead of time, right? So we are bound to get something new *fingers crossed*
PJ does like to keep certain things under wraps. I heard that the third 'art of the Hobbit' book had to have some beautiful material withdrawn, because the book was going to be released just before DOS, and this material could NOT be sighed beforehand. (or am I thinking of the 2nd book? I only have the 1st but am aiming to own all)
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Subtle yet so telling
To add to this... how Thranduil beheads an orc 'unseen'. We already see how lethal Legolas can be, with his speed, agility, accuracy and hero moves. Thranduil barely has to expend any energy on this kill - just that subtle movement. In this "less is more" way, PJ has portrayed just how much more dangerous the Elven king is. Bravo.
And so, I do have faith that PJ has Thranduil's best interests at heart and we will see more screen time in TABA. Concerned though, that "more Legolas, more hero moves" might be a directive from the studio.
On Leglas's popularity with the masses: my sister was living in India when FOTR and TTT came out. She said the cinema audience support for Legolas was "quite something", and when he flung himself onto the horse during the warg attack, the cheering didn't die down for a good 5 minutes.
(side-note: Sis said that when Aragorn and Arwen kissed on the bridge in Rivendell, it caused a riot! Catcalls of glee, boos of outrage. As you may know, kissing is censored in Indian cinema - but oops, they missed that one!)
Thanx Swordwhale
I like your ideas on those parallels!
I could discuss Loki for hours, thought this is not the forum for doing so. A certain King might get Miffed. :D
(but very quickly: y'know, Tom H was asked in some magazine quiz: "Star Wars, or Lord of the Rings?" His answer was Star Wars. I was a little disappointed.)
Yes I actually own The Highly Sensitive Person, and her theory on the much-needed place of the 'priests' in a world of 'warriors' has really helped over the years. It is probably due for a re-read soon.
And I really do know what you mean about 'deep secrets', though I can't articulate it as well as you.
*hypnotised*
Ah.....I keep going back to page 7 to watch that hair being combed.....
If I were anywhere else, I'd be told I have a problem.
I want it but have no room to display
I have a ton of Weta collectibles from LOTR (my prize ones being the Legolas and Gimli on Arod statue and Legolas' Fighting Knives) but I no longer have room to display them. I also have a lot of other weapons (katana) and anime figures, all in boxes at the moment. *cries* But I know I will not be able to help myself if Weta releases Thranduil's sword and crown!
Thranduil should get some "hero moves" himself in BOFA
LP has stated in a number of interviews that he had a lot of fight and stunt training and filmed quite a bit of fight/stunt-work for BOFA. He seemed pretty excited about it each time so it sounds like we'll get to see where Leggy got some of his moves! I think it might even be interesting to see Legolas and Thranduil fighting side-by-side as a team.
but please please without stupid action (surfing stairs or mumakil .. or for taba even smaug).
i agree i really want to have gorgeous fighting scenes
An early valentine from Thranduil to his Thralls <3
Even animated, he's still pretty handsome!
Artwork belongs to Kumama on deviantART
http://kumama.deviantart.com/...ry/33751719?offset=0
jkm7
I would definitely love these two fighting toghether as a team. And also some pretty neat moves of Thranduil. So far we've only seen one litte clip of him fighting but that was awesome already. And I just looove him in his armour!
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love the messy hair (errr reminds me of fallen out of bed in the morning) and the circlet in the little clip
Gorgeous fan art!
Thanks for sharing that beautiful fan art of Thranduil jkm7!
You're very welcome :-)
I love this picture, I think it's the best fan art of him I've seen so far.
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Thranduil in action?
This pic is supposed to be Thranduil in action. Looks like him but hard to tell! (That does look like his sword though and he appears to be wearing the circlet crown we've seen in other pics.)
And since one can never get enough of the mesmerizing King:
And one more for good measure:
I think it's Thranduil
I think I've seen a gif of that where he's swinging his sword around at the orcs. Certainly seems to be him.
Nice image fix RG :)
Pic 1: Whoa, watch the wine glass there, dude. Long robes + a glass or two..... and probably steps...
Pic 2: Nice eye contact moment. *melt*.
A left-handed swordsman!
*impressed* Like Inigo Montoya from The Princess Bride, he may be even better with his right hand! But then, I imagine elves are highly proficient with either limb.
(does this mean, perhaps, that Lee is left handed?)
It looks like he could have a small knife in the right hand, the way he swings that arm over towards the orc's chest.
Some armour detail
I am not usually into fight scenes per se, but I can't wait to see (and worship) 'the game changer.' It will probably be my cinema event of 2014.
Also looking forward to laying my hands on the relevant Hobbit art & design book.
I have the first three books. Can't wait for the others!
I think the DoS book mentions Thranduil as having two swords. I imagine he has at least two and probably some fighting knives. He's been around long enough to have collected some serious weaponry.
Some Thranduil to start the day:
I hadn't seen this .gif before today! Nice.........!
Awesome gif!
The hair...
The dual sword wielding...
The 'battle' crown ("tiara" doesn't give it justice! )....
The armour....
The swirling cape...
The splendour and magnificence that is Thranduil.
I remember seeing that scene, I think in the B roll video, and PJ shows LP the scene afterwards, and LP declares it to be "awesome!" I have to concur. And I want more.
He's got two full sized swords, one in each hand (screencaps)
That gif is from a scene that occurs right around 1:14 of PJ's Production Diary #12. It's hard to see it in the gif because the sword in his right hand is turned so it's not reflecting the light very well but if you watch the full vlog sequence you can see it catch the light for a second before he hits the orc with it. Then we see LP in the tent with PJ watching the playback and he laughs like a little kid and says "That's awesome!"
*a few minutes later after pausing and backtracking the vlog several times* Yes! I finally managed to get a screencap of it! Here you go. See? He's kicking orc butt with two swords! + a pic of a laughing LP just for good measure
Such an amazing moment from Thranduil - and such a cute moment from Lee! I love how his hair looks slightly dishevelled from filming the scene, afterwards when he's in PJ's tent- I bet he had a team of people descend on him and his wig seconds later to restore the kingly mane back to its former glory!
according to LP, in the Dos book,
"Thranduil is cold and tough. Tough like a diamond."
So a battle is the right place for a diamond to shine in all its glory ...
Game changer indeed!
Thanks for those screenshots Eruvandi! Yes, our amazing Thranduil is indeed a fearsome foe and deadly with duo swords. I can't wait to see him in action in the fullness of his glory in Bo5A and then to see him in quieter moments with Bilbo! Oh be still my fluttering heart!
*dashes off to watch the production diary #12 again*
ETA: look at his expression and elegant position even whilst slaying an orc!
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Nice screencaps, ladies!
I must have missed that vlog because I don't even remember that scene and I usually remember all things Thranduil!
Thank you to both elf-lady and Eruvandi for the screencaps.
Some more Thranduil because one can never get enough--I these two pics:
*sighs dreamily* I love those!
He just looks so...so...*grabs thesaurus and starts looking for the right word*...regal, imperial, stately, noble, and magnificent! Now if you'll excuse me while I click "save picture as" again...
Refreshes page and promptly faints
Those pics are gorgeous. Thranduil (and Lee Pace) is just beautiful!
I'm probably a bit warped, but
The pic on the left is definitely the regal, overly concerned Elven King, but the splayed fingers, spread arms and open mouth of the pic on the right brings to mind Thranduil The Tenured Professor. And who better to give history lessons in his great hall?
*sighs with you*
Yes, all those adjectives. Do you all remember those gorgeous black and white studio pictures of each member of the Fellowship? I remember being stunned by Legolas.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/ElfLady/Legolas/legolas019.jpg
The pics that RG posted remind me of those. I wish they would do those for The Hobbit cast.
One final pic before I get ready for bed and another day of work tomorrow.
I love his expression in this one:
I love these...
Thanks so much for posting these! I've so enjoyed all of the VLOGs and can't wait for one for TABA. Cannot wait to see Thranduil in the full armour kicking Orc butt!
Just so...
...beautiful in that one.
(I have just received 'Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day'. from Quickflix. Am quietly excited.)
Production diary 12 is my favourite
I love the Thranduil moments towards the end, and Lee talking about Thranduil.......
...and Peter suggesting to Martin "just picture him naked in a jacuzzi" and Lee looking so darn cute at that moment.
gosh... a whole series of lectures with that voice. it would be the first conference i'd not dare to fall asleep
Some Thranduil to get us through the day....
Doesn't the first pic look like a painting?
Great pics again Rowan
They said Viggo threw himself into the part of Aragorn some suggesting he even slept with his sword and I think Lee is doing the same thing (not sleeping with the sword) but totally immersed in the char of Thranduil that even on set when he's not acting and just standing around he still has the air and grace of a king.
oh yes, he always tried to look calm and regal
except when he tripped on his frock
That was "less than impressive.." I'm quoting an interview from the Dos book.
I love this man
Yes, need our Thranduil fix!
I love this one. He face is quite exquisite and his profile is kingly! Only Thranduil can pull off wearing those robes. I think on anyone else, with the possible exception of Elrond, the clothes would be wearing them.
Ooooh, I hadn't seen that before.
Thanks for sharing! Legolas looks real good in black and white!
United Cutlery reproducing Thranduil's sword!
Just found a link for United Cutlery's reproduction of Thranduil's sword!
http://www.budk.com/product/Sword-of-Thranduil/176126.uts
From the description:
The sword of the Elvenking was one of two twin swords crafted for Thranduil by the finest smiths of the Woodland Realm. The blade and flowing hilt are forged with engraved vine and leaf symbols representing the forests of the Greenwood, all forged from a single piece of silver Elven steel. This replica features a stainless steel blade and cast metal hilt with authentic detailing to precisely match the movie prop. It is presented with a wood wall display featuring graphic motif of Thranduil.
Twin swords!
Other Hobbit reproductions:
http://www.budk.com/content.jsp?pageName=Hobbit
I'm so getting this!
Yes, especially with that silver robe with the voluminous sleeves (which he wears during his pep talk with Tauriel). Others might drown in that much fabric, but he pulls it off with such grace.
Such perfect casting, and LP inhabits the role.
Haldir never worked for me... but that was the disadvantage of being familiar with Craig Parker on NZ soaps. To me, Haldir was always Craig in a wig which didn't seem to suit him - and I couldn't get past that.
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Swords...
I'm hoping Weta will come out with one too! I ordered the staff from Weta--it's around the same price as the one offered via that second link you provided.
Can't wait until they release his sword. Now we just need the crown.
Another quick fix...
I love his hair...
So here's a nice hair shot!
Congratulations! Your thread has been locked!
Yes, I know that sounds like a contradiction, but let me explain....
Thranduil has proven to be so very much appreciated that this thread, at almost 400 posts, is one of the few threads yet to surpass our per-thread limit of 300 replies. Why do we have such a limit? Well, because last year we discovered during the first Character Elimination Game, alias The Great Admin Perplexity of 2012 (aka "Anyone-know-why-I-can't-open-the-Gaming-&-Collecting-board-anymore?") that with our current forum software, very long threads can drastically slow down board function or even make it impossible for some people to open a forum at all.
Call it the price of fame. You're in very elite, and very popular company! The bad news is we have to lock this thread. The good news is that you are entirely welcome - nay, encouraged - to continue the appreciation in a new thread. You can link back to this one if you like. Call it Thranduil Appreciation Part II, call it The Further Appreciation of Thranduil, call it Look at the Pretty Elf Man!, whatever you like.
If any Thralls have questions about this, feel free to PM me. Otherwise, we'll see you on Page 1.
"Dark is the water of Kheled-z�ram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-n�la, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-d�m in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."
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