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Kurwai Assembly constituency is one of the 230 Vidhan Sabha (Legislative Assembly) constituencies of Madhya Pradesh state in central India. This constituency came into existence in 1957, as one of the Vidhan Sabha constituencies of Madhya Pradesh state. This constituency is reserved for the candidates belonging to the Scheduled castes since 1977, following the delimitation of the Legislative Assembly constituencies.

Overview

Kurwai (constituency number 146) is one of the 5 Vidhan Sabha constituencies located in Vidisha district. This constituency presently covers the entire Kurwai tehsil of the district with 224 villages, Sironj tehsil's 116 villages and Basoda tehsil's 94 villages. It has total 264 polling booths. Total Voters in the constituency are 1,98,965.

Kurwai is part of Sagar Lok Sabha constituency along with seven other Vidhan Sabha segments namely Sironj and Shamshabad in Vidisha district and Bina, Khurai, Surkhi, Naryoli and Sagar in Sagar district.

Members of the Legislative Assembly
 1957: Takhatmal, Indian National Congress
 1962: Takhtamal Lunkaram, Indian National Congress
 1967: K. Kumar, Bharatiya Jana Sangh
 1972: Awadh Narayan, Bharatiya Jana Sangh
 1977: Ram Charan Lal, JNP
 1980: Panbai, Indian National Congress (I)
 1985: Shyamlal Shankarlal, Bharatiya Janata Party
 1990: Shyam Lal, Bharatiya Janata Party
 1993: Chironjilal Sonkar, Bharatiya Janata Party
 1998: Raghuveer Singh, Indian National Congress (I)
 2003: Shyamlal Panthi, Bharatiya Janata Party
 2008: Hari Singh Sapre, Bharatiya Janata Party
 2013: Veer Singh Panwar, Bharatiya Janata Party

See also
Vidisha district

References

Sagar district
Assembly constituencies of Madhya Pradesh

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Fugitive captured in Hamilton
Grandmother arrested for harboring escaped inmate
Zepplin Kennedy
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hamilton - Authorities have captured one of the two fugitives who escaped last week from the Marion County Jail in Hamilton.
Zeppelin Kennedy, 20, Hamilton, is in custody and has been returned to the county jail after his capture at a family member's home in Hamilton on Tuesday, March 21.
Officers with the Marion County Sheriff's Department and Hamilton Police Department arrived at the home where Kennedy was seeking refuge and remained less than 30 minutes before the fugitive was back in custody.
Marion County Sheriff Kevin Williams said Kennedy was not armed at the time and was arrested without incident. Kennedy was in custody and returned to the county jail by 1:50 p.m. on Tuesday.
He was being held at the jail pending recent charges on 31 counts of possession of pornography and production of pornography with a minor.
Law enforcement officials in Alabama and Mississippi had worked in partnership in the search since his escape at 1:30 a.m. on Friday, March 17.
An informant notified local authorities that Kennedy had circled back from Mississippi to his hometown and could be found at his grandmother's house.
Located inside the home at the time of his arrest were his grandmother, uncle and aunt.
His grandmother, Annette Huddleston, 57, Hamilton, has been arrested in connection with the case for assisting the fugitive in his run from the law.
She has been charged with aiding and abetting, harboring a fugitive and obstruction of a governmental operation.
Neither of the remaining family members were charged in the case.
Her arrest marks the ninth by authorities involving those who have been charged with aiding Kennedy since he's been on the run from the law.
She joins three others from the county now being held at the local jail for their alleged role in the case.
Also being held at the jail is Kennedy's mother, Rachel Parrish, 42, Hamilton.
The remaining five who have been charged with aiding Kennedy and Dean in their run are currently being held at the Lamar County Jail in Vernon.
Asked the message these arrests send to the community, Williams said, "I think this will send a strong message.
"If you know a fugitive is on the run and provide aid of any kind--money, cell phone, food or clothing--you will be arrested.''
The sheriff said the search for the second fugitive to run from the county jail.
Cory Dean, 22, Brilliant, was on the run with Kennedy for more than 48 hours until authorities said the two split up on Sunday.
The sheriff said authorities believe the two separated while being sought in Mississippi. Later reports confirmed that Kennedy had been spotted at a gas station in Kennedy.
Williams said U.S. marshals are still involved in the search for Dean, who was being held in connection with a string of church burglaries in Alabama.
His charges included seven counts of third-degree burglary, third-degree criminal mischief, second-degree criminal mischief, second-degree arson and discharging a firearm into an unoccupied dwelling.
More information on the route taken by the fugitives and other details of the recent turn of events is expected as local authorities interview Kennedy. Williams said no such information had been provided as of presstime at 2 p.m. on Thursday, March 23.
Sheriff disputes media report
Media attention for the case has extended well beyond the Marion County area as news crews from each of the states involved have reported the story.
Williams admitted to his having taken exception with a news report quoting a family member of Kennedy's, saying the inmate had been the victim of abuse from other inmates inside the jail.
The television report was aired by a station located in Mississippi.
"Hearing what was said in this report was the first time our office had even heard of some of these complaints,'' the sheriff said in an interview with the Journal Record.
"No reports have been filed or given to us. No reports have been filed asking to be moved to another facility. Despite the media report, there have been no assaults. The inmate was in protective custody while here. I can assure you we would have known had anything like that happened.''

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His Last Victory
admin Aviation, Blog December 17, 2019 December 16, 2019 P38 Lightning
The world of aviation is filled with its hero's but some certainly do stand out more than others. One of those men is Richard Bong, who flew P-38 Lightnings in the Pacific Theater. He was a natural-born flyer and took every chance he could get to be in the skies. He considered his gunnery inaccurate so he got as close as he could to his target in order to score as much damage as possible. With his tactics and skill, he became the highest-scoring American fighter pilot in WWII. By December 17th, 1944, he had racked up his 40th aerial victory. It would also be his last.
How to Get Great Static Shots This Weekend
admin Aviation, Blog April 30, 2019 April 28, 2019 P38 Lightning, p51a mustang, planes of fame airshow
This coming weekend is the Planes of Fame Airshow in Chino, CA. I have gone to this two-day event for many years and since I started going it was always the highlight of that year. They cram a lot of planes and a lot of flying into those two days. Each year has a different theme which generally entails different aircraft showing up. Two of my most favorite years was in honor of the P-38 and P-47 Thunderbolt. You'll see more of the Thunderbolt in another post.
Now many of you might be wondering how to make the most of those two days and get the best shots that you can. Well for starters get the sunrise photo pass. Some of the best warbird statics that I've gotten have been from that early day pass. I know it's another cost to justify but it is worth it! At PoF they have two static ramps that you can get some amazing down the line shots that you just can't get at other places. You can get detail shots, plane portraits, group shots, you name it. As you can see there is a yellow rope that prevents you from walking around the plane but honestly, I've never found that to be a problem in the past. The Northeast static ramp is open early and throughout part of the day. It's a great place to walk around and work with different planes. My preferred setup is the D5 with the 24-70 or 70-200 but that hasn't stopped me in the past from using the 200-400 either.
The Aleutian Campaign From Adak
admin Aviation, Blog September 14, 2017 B24 Liberator, P38 Lightning, p39 airacobra
The battle of the Aleutians was a war that was forgotten in part due to the fear that would arouse if the public knew that the enemy had taken some of the islands in the Aleutian Chain. Kiska and Attu were taken and held for almost a year with a strong garrison on each island, an air force and naval forces. Throughout the campaign the naval and air forces were brutally fought back to the point where the islands were virtually cut off from all but submarines but even they were eventually stopped. Many men on both sides died but the main enemy throughout the entire campaign for both sides was the weather and terrain of the Aleutians.
There are many firsts in the war in the Aleutians partly because it was the first time many new military concepts were attempted, including amphibious assaults, high altitude and low altitude bombing, specific weather designed gear and many others. For the US it was as much a testing ground as it was a battle. Part of that was the idea of island hopping. Since weather was such an issue in the Aleutians it was paramount to get supplies, men and aircraft closer to the front. This also put more distance safely defended behind the front and the mainland. Adak was one of those islands. Seventy Five years ago the first zero altitude strike, combined fighters and bombers, was carried out from Adak against Kiska. The anti aircraft defenses had become exceptionally good and with low level clouds, attacking at zero altitude proved to be the most effective way to strike the island. The B-24, P-38 and P-39 were the primary aircraft in the Aleutians with some P-40 units and B-17's. Getting top of the line supplies wasn't easy for this campaign since many didn't believe it a real threat. History proved otherwise. Not much is out there about the Aleutian War but one good source is The Thousand Mile War by Brian Garfield.
A Few More Birds
admin Aviation, Blog March 25, 2016 F86 Sabre, P38 Lightning
One of the great things that I love about Aviation is the community. It is such a communal place that everyone wants to help out everyone else. The Los Angeles County Airshow, which was featured at Fox Field in Lancaster, CA, like many small airports and new airshows lacks certain fundamentals. It's part of the growing pain process of starting a new event. Thankfully the location to this airshow is not far from the meca of southern California aviation. One of the big warbird hotspots in the area is of course Planes of Fame in Chino, CA.
Among the featured performances was the aircraft of Planes of Fame. There P-38 Lightning, P-40N Warhawk and F86 Sabre all made appearance to the delight of the crowd. These classic warbirds presented an opportunity to see more of everyones heritage as the pilots put the planes through the maneuvers that made these planes famous.
Now I have spent a lot of time in the past photographing both of these types of aircraft and in fact I have photographed both of these planes before. They are just great subjects because they are both so unique. Photographically one of the big differences is needing to shoot in shutter priority in order to get prop blur on the P-38, and being in aperture priority to photograph the F-86. Slow shutter speeds are needed to blur the props on a prop driven plane while a jet having no props, doesn't need to have a slow shutter speed. This is one of the reasons I love working at airshows around multiple types of planes because each one presents something different.
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The P38 Lightning
admin Aviation Weekly, Blog, MainSlider January 28, 2016 P38, P38 Lightning
Since yesterday marked the first flight of the P-38 Lightning, I figured today would be a good time to include the P-38 in my aviation weekly post. The P-38 is one of my favorite planes, not for its rarity in todays world but for the planes vast history that stretches across the whole world. The P-38 was developed in 1937 and was introduced into service in July of 1941. It spans not only America's involvement during WWII but the P-38 fought in every theater and was part of Operation Bolero with Britain. The plane flew around the world and still flies today.
In 1937 an Army Air Corps directive was sent out for a high altitude interceptor with specific performance goals including a maximum airspeed of at least 360pmh at altitude and a climb to 20,000ft within six minutes. These were the toughest Army Air Corps specifications made up to this point. Hall Hibbard and Clarence "Kelly" Johnson lead the Lockheed team in designing the twin engine, twin tail boom and single seat nacelle aircraft designated the XP-38. The design was made to not only meet the Army specifications but hold a heavy armament, turbo superchargers, and tricycle landing gear, as well as other features. Equipped with the 12-cylinder Allison V-1710 engines and counter rotating props, the prototype first flew on January 27th, 1939. It was the first fighter to fly over 400mph. On February 11th, 1939 a speed race was proposed to move the XP-38 to Wright Field and while it was on its way to break the record from California to New York, the plane wrecked just short of Mitchel Field, NY due to carburetor icing. However, seeing the potential the Army bought 13 YP-38's, Y being for prototype.
Over the next two years progress was slow building the YP-38's due to the multitude of planes being built on the assembly lines. By November of 1941 progress was back on schedule and Lockheed engineers were able to focus their attention on solving control surface freezing issues in the tail when in a dive. Several changes were made to the P-38 but initial planes were already in the hands of the USAAF, RAF and the Free French Air Force Operating from England. Over time designs continued to be modified in multiple versions and part kits were sent out to units already equipped with P-38's so that field modifications could be made.
The first unit to receive the P-38 was the 8th Photographic Squadron out of Australia on 4 April 1942. The P-38E, F-4 version, in which the guns were replaced with four cameras for photo reconnaissance. One of the great virtues of the design of this aircraft was its ability to be used for many purposes including photo reconnaissance. In May of 1942, 25 P-38's were sent to Alaska where the planes long range made it optimal for protecting the Aleutian Islands. This was the beginning of the expansion of the P-38's role in WWII, and after the Battle of Midway, the P-38 would be flying over the skies of England and then later in the Pacific and the China-Burma-India Theater. It was the Pacific Theater that the P-38 was it's most beneficial. Leading American aces Richard Bong (40 victories), Thomas McGuire (38 victories) and Charles H. MacDonald (36 victories) all served in the Pacific and China-Burma-India Theater of Operations. One of the most well known dogfights was when two P-38's shot down a Betty Bomber carrying Admiral Yamamoto over the Solomon Islands.
In 2013 the Planes of Fame Airshow held a special event to honor the P-38 Lightning with five of the worlds flying P-38's. A sixth P-38 from Yanks Air Museum was on display but was not flying. It was a photo reconnaissance version with the cameras still mounted in the nose. The distinct shape of the P-38 certainly stood out even on the gloomiest of days as the planes flew overhead. The history of the P-38 is long and distinct, from fighting in the hands of America pilots, allied pilots of other nations, spanning multiple continents, postwar saw service in other countries, aerial photography and of course air racing. While the P-38 became obsolete in the jet age it is still a plane that is revered by its fans. Of the aircraft that I can't write a single post about, the P-38 is on that list.
Images captured with Nikon D3, 24-70 AF-S, 70-200 VRII, 200-400 VR, on Lexar UDMA Digital Film
First Flight of the P-38
admin Aviation, Blog January 27, 2016 P38, P38 Lightning, p38 lightnings
Today marks the first flight of one of my favorite airplanes that came out of WWII, the P-38 Lightning. While technically it was developed in 1937 for a call made by the USAAC, it was January 27th 1939 that it first flew and it was the only fighter to be have been in production for America's entire involvement during WWII. It was introduced in July of 1941 and saw action in both the European and Pacific Theaters. It was had greater success in the Pacific and China-Burma-India Theater of Operations where top aces were made at the hands of the P-38. It was called many things but among its adversaries was the "fork tailed devil" and "two planes, one pilot."
The Day the Air Force was Created
admin Aviation, Blog September 18, 2015 B17 Flying Fortress, B24 Liberator, P38 Lightning, P51 Mustang
On this day in 1947 the United States Air Force was officially created and the United States Army Air Force was officially disbanded. For decades the command structure of the Air Force was disputed over. Starting with the Army Signal Corp in 1914, then the Army Air Corp in 1926, then the GHQ in 1935 and finally the United States Army Air Force from 1941-1947 which was created for better use of funds, supplies and allocation during the war effort. Throughout WWII several people fought for independent air force to reduce restrictions that were being placed on the USAAF due to the need for planes to go to both the Navy and Army. After the war ended it took two years before a restructure of the United States Government defense took place in which the Department of the Navy, Department of the Army and Department of the Air Force was created under the Department of Defense.
The USAAF helped bring an end to WWII with it's vast fleet of iconic allied aircraft and tireless devotion of the pilots, mechanics, ground personnel and administrative staff. If not for the great legacy that the USAAF had during the war it is conceivable that a separate air force might not have been created. Since that day in 1947 the USAF has gone on to create thousands of jobs, engineer countless new planes and help protect our freedom.
Working with the subject as it Flies by
admin Aviation, Blog May 5, 2015 F22 Raptor, F4F Wildcat, P38 Lightning, P47 Thunderbolt, P51 Mustang
Only half of the fun is spent on the ground, but the real thrill comes when that plane comes roaring overhead going hundreds of miles an hour and are gone as fast as they are seen. This is the time when you have to have good panning technique because those planes move by way to fast and you don't always get a second chance. Even at an airshow when the planes schedules are often the same on multiple days, the skies are not always same. Besides the image being sharp the most important element after that is the background. When planes are flying they have to be seen as going fast because they are. There has to be something in the image to show off that momentum. Clouds in the background are a great place to start.
Clouds are a great place to start because they are everywhere. You just have to be panning when the plane is going by an area that has clouds to get that nice shot. In some instances the plane can be made to look like it's going by even faster by having something behind that had more structure. If the plane is flying low enough or if you are standing up high enough something like a mountain can be compressed with a long lens and look like a blur behind the plane. This adds the speed and depth to the image.
With prop planes there is one essential element that has to be shown moving and that is the propeller. If the prop is frozen then the plane looks like it is a model on a string and not moving. The only way to get that blur is with a slower shutter speed. There is a ratio of the number of blades, to how fast the prop is turning equals how slow a shutter speed. This can be as slow as 1/30 of a second to get a full 360 degree disk. If you don't have good panning technique then the image won't be sharp. Practice is essential to making it all work properly.
One other really key element to ground to air photography is paying attention to what comes next. You have to be planning on what planes are coming next, how many are coming, what direction and where is the best light coming from. You have to be constantly scanning the skies. If you're not scanning the skies then by the time that plane is overhead and you're not ready, you'll probably miss the shot.
The reality of Operation Bolero
admin Aviation, Blog July 15, 2014 P38 Lightning
Before the US got involved in WWII we were delivering supplies and arms to help the allies. In 1942 a plan was created to help the British push back the Germans for a mid 1943 invasion, which never happened. Operation Bolero as it was called laid the groundwork for operation overlord which was the allied invasion of Normandy in 1944. The plan called for vital supplies to brought over to the UK, including aircraft. It was a dangerous route in which several planes were lost. It required a hop to Canada, Greenland, Iceland and finally England. The weather was a major factor in the trans-Atlantic journey and it caused several problems.
On July 15th 1942, eight planes went down between Greenland and Iceland. The weather had closed in making visibility almost nill. With low cloud cover over the snowy landscape and fuel running low, two B-17's of the 97th Bomb Group and six P-38's of 94th Fighter Squadron, 1st Fighter Group, had to emergency land on the Greenland Ice Cap. One P-38 tried to land wheels down but cart nosed over and landed upside down. The rest of the planes safely bellied landed. All crew members and pilots survived the crashed. The boys were all picked up a few days later and continued on their wartime journey. The planes however remained there for decades. In 1980 a salvage operation was lead for the B-17 "Big Stoop" but it took till 1988 to find the metal signatures in the ice of the eight aircraft. In 1990 they were able to melt down enough ice to reach the wing of Big Stoop, one of the B-17's, only to find the plane mangled beyond repair. It was then theorized that a P-38 might be better preserved due to it's armor plating. In 1992 they returned once again and after several weeks of ice removal were able to bring up the P-38 known today as Glacier Girl. Today it is one of the prime examples of the P-38 Lightning. Owned by Rod Lewis this magnificent can be seen across the skies through out the year.
The P38-Lightning's Blackest day
admin Aviation, Blog June 11, 2014 P-38, P-38 Lightning, P38, P38 Lightning
It's great leaning new things. Never knowing everything makes life more interesting. For instance this post is actually a day late but I didn't know yesterday about the blackest day for the P-38 Lightning. June 10th 1944, an attack was launched on the oil fields of Ploesti with forty six P-38 Lightnings of the 82nd FG of the 95th, 96th and 97th Fighter Squadrons and forty eight P-38Js 1st fighter groups of the 27th, 71st and 94th fighter squadrons. The forty six fighters were carrying 1,000 lb bombs under one wing and a 310 gallon fuel tank on the other wing. The fighters of the 1st fighter groups were providing top cover for the fighter bombers of the 82nd. They were to make a low level run across Yugoslavia and into Romania to destroy the oil fields of Ploesti. However the Germans air radar picked them up over Yugoslavia before they entered Romania.
Due to the low level flying, aerial maneuvers were quite impossible for the lightnings as the already aware enemy had the advantage. The battle lasted only a few minutes between the lightnings, in which the two groups never made the rendezvous, the IAC 80's and the BF-109's, at an altitude of only a couple hundred feet. Among the BF-109 pilots that took part in the fight aces included I/JG 53 Gruppenkommandeur Knight's Cross holder Maj. Jurgen Harder with 64 victories, Lt. Rupert Weninger, Lt. Erich Gehring and Uffz. IAR 80 ace Capitan Dan Vizante with 15 kills, leader of Grupul 6, lifted off of from Popesti-Leordeni airfield for his debut in the fight. 23 P-38's failed to return to their bases around Foggia, Italy. Only 14 Romanian loses occurred while 10 of those were actual fighters. It would go down as the blackest day for the combat history of the P-38 lightning with a 30% loss rate. It represented the worst loss rate during a single mission of any American Fighters during WWII. The 15th Air Force would go on to destroy the fields and air bases around Ploesti later on in 1944 and 1945.
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Q: Query Between two date SELECT product.pname,stock.pid,stock.qty,stock.rate
FROM product,stock
WHERE (date BETWEEN '2012-04-10' AND '2012-07-16') AND product.pid=stock.pid

This is my sql query but problem is when execute this query its show single result means my product table contains pid and pname and stock table contains pid,rate,qty and date.
I want to display record between two dates.
My query match with two records. But when i add "AND product.pid=stock.pid" its show only 1 record.
I want to display the product name from product table in the respect of pid of stock table.

A: Probably some product is not in the stock. Also I recommend you to do a JOIN like this:
SELECT product.pname,stock.pid,stock.qty,stock.rate
FROM product
LEFT JOIN
stock
ON product.pid=stock.pid
WHERE (date BETWEEN '2012-04-10' AND '2012-07-16')

I used LEFT JOIN that means to return products no matter if have or nor stock, I think that with this query you will get two Rows.

A: First try to get it working without the join:
SELECT stock.pid, stock.qty, stock.rate
FROM stock
WHERE stock.date BETWEEN '2012-04-10' AND '2012-07-16'

If that works, then use an outer to join to add information to each row without removing any rows.
SELECT product.pname, stock.pid, stock.qty, stock.rate
FROM stock
LEFT JOIN product ON product.pid=stock.pid
WHERE stock.date BETWEEN '2012-04-10' AND '2012-07-16'

The product name will be NULL if no product is found.

A: Try the below query.
SELECT product.pname,stock.pid,stock.qty,stock.rate
FROM product,stock
WHERE stock.date BETWEEN '2012-04-10' AND '2012-07-16' AND product.pid=stock.pid

A: Your selection criteria
WHERE ([stock.]date BETWEEN '2012-04-10' AND '2012-07-16')
makes it effectively RIGHT JOIN, only records that have/had stock within date range will be displayed. If you want to display ALL products irrespective of stock than you will need to add OR [stock.]date IS NULL to your selection criteria.

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It's going to be "one of those days" – I can just tell.
In order to distract myself from overloading work, stress and general mayhem, I've decided I want to spend some dough decorating my laptop.
It IS my anniversary today and my birthday is about two months away, so if you're inclined, place an order.
I like all the colors, btw.


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City news in 250 words: Wednesday 16 June
China Town stabbings, kids trapped in car and Manchester's luckiest couple
Published on June 16th 2010.
SIX STABBED IN CHINATOWN: A man is in a critical condition after being stabbed in China Town in the early hours of today. Police were called to George Street at 2.20am following reports of a group fighting. Six men were taken to hospital with stab wounds. A 32-year-old man is in a critical condition. George Street has been closed as detectives investigate the incident.
FAKE ARSON AND KIDNAP VICTIM JAILED: Steven Thornley, from Stockport set a van alight and then told police he had been kidnapped, but the story just didn't add up. Det Insp Kevin Dolan, of Greater Manchester Police, said: "Thornley accidentally burnt himself when setting fire to the van and he instantly tried to cover his tracks and attempted to lead my officers down a blind alley, completely wasting a substantial amount of our time and scarce resources." He has been sentenced to four years.
TRAPPED CHILDREN SCRAWL FOR HELP: Two children, who had been locked in a car in stifling conditions in Rochdale last week, scrawled 'help' in the condensation of the car window. The boy, six, and his 10-year-old sister were noticed by passers-by who called 999. Their 20-year-old brother has been arrested on suspicion of child neglect.
MANCHESTER'S LUCKIEST COUPLE: Nigel and Sharon Mather from Sale scooped the EuroMillions jackpot of £12.4m last Friday, in what was a very lucky week for them. In the same week they also won £10 on the National Lottery, £20 on a scratchcard and a £25 Premium Bond.
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Persistent Winds Create New Outages as CMP Restores Power
York and Franklin Counties most impacted
AUGUSTA, ME — March 2, 2021, 2021 — Central Maine Power (CMP) has restored power to more than 58,000 customers today, but as strong wind gusts persist, damage to trees and limbs creates new outages. More than 90,000 customers have been impacted overall, and at 4:00PM there were still 32,000 customers across the service area without power.
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Oh, The Metahumanity! (More Jessica Jones)
Sun, 01/17/2016 - 18:15 — Bryan Lambert
Three more Jessica Jones down, four to go. Just heard the show will be getting a second season, plus they have Punisher series plans, plus eventually they'll get around to making Iron Fist maybe?
Jessica Jones: Eps 7-9
If it's always darkest before the dawn, then the midpoint of the series, episode 7, is definitely the darkest. Episodes 8 and 9 start to pull our hero out of the hole of despair and self-loathing episode 7 leaves her in, but by the end of it, things are in a very weird place.
One thing the show's struggling with a little, but not a lot, is how to fill 13 episodes with essentially one plot: Jessica Vs. Kilgrave. So plot-wise, we've had two attempts now at capturing Kilgrave and proving he and his powers exist, and while some progress has been made, episode 10 will be starting in some ways back at square one.
There are some developments, of course. They know more about who and what Kilgrave is. Jessica knows his powers don't work on her, as I suspected a couple of these reviews ago. Another character gets around to becoming his comics equivalent, which should be interesting. And there's another body to deal with and the detective, and I have no idea where that's going to go.
Also unsure - whether I will be able to finish Jessica Jones before Agent Carter and Legends of Tomorrow start. It's going to be a close thing.


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Tottenham are claimed to be much closer in sealing the signing of Spain international and Real Madrid left back Sergio Reguilon.
Despite strong interest and rivalry from Manchester United, Spurs are already in the final stages of the deal, said to be worth around £25million.
It is understood that the deal will include a buy-back clause, allowing Real Madrid to match any future offer for the 23-year-old left back who impressed on loan at Sevilla last term.
Manchester United's refusal to proceed with the deal for the Spanish player were thought to be the case of unwillingness to accept Real Madrid's proposal of including the buy-back clause in his contract, which has now left Spurs in pole position for his signature.
Just in: Sergio Reguilon to Tottenham, here we go soon! The agreement has been reached on last few hours with Real Madrid for €30m as final fee. Reguilon agreed personal terms with Spurs and accepted to join also after talks with #MUFC. Only paperworks to be signed. ⚪🤝 #THFC
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While the deal for Reguilon is getting closer to completion, the Spurs have taken another brave step forward by offering their former player Gareth Bale an avenue to escape from hus nightmares with the Los Blancos. Tottenham are said to be working on a reunion with Gareth Bale, alongside the signing of Sergio Reguilon all at once.
Tottenham chairman is believed to be gearing for the sensational return of Gareth Bale on a season long loan deal to White Hart Lane this summer, seven years after selling him for then world-record £85million fee to Real Madrid.
Though the possibility of bringing Bale back to London looks enticing and glamouring but the move seems highly dependent on Real Madrid's willingness to pay a sizeable proportion of Bale's reported £600,000-a-week wages.
Manchester United were also thought to be vying to bring the 31-yrs-old attacker to Old Trafford, but the Wales captain affection towards the Spurs is believed to have played a major role in the Spurs' hope of landing Gareth Bale this summer.
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Despite his agent's statement back in February, stating that it would be unlikely to see Gareth Bale return to Tottenham in the nearest future, his agent Jonathan Barnett has now disclosed the new twist in Bale's transfer saga.
"Gareth still loves Spurs," Barnett told BBC Sport Wales. "We are talking [Spurs, Real and Bale's camp]. It's where he wants to be."
Considering how Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City and Everton are making strong recruitments, Daniel Levy seems to have decided to follow the trend by offering the club's head coach Jose Mourinho better and quality players to work with this season.
Though a move for both Sergio Reguilon and Gareth Bale looks so ambitious, but for Tottenham to be able to compete with the top six clubs, their signings will no doubt be a huge step towards great achievement this season.
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Subject: Firearms query from 'Whiskey in the Jar'
From: Leeder
Date: 06 Nov 01 - 01:29 PM
Anybody know about antique firearms?
I recently resurrected "Whiskey in the Jar", as I'm playing in places where people request that sort of thing (and a good banjo tune it is as well). The version I learned many years ago, before it was popularized, has the lines:
I flew for my pistols, but alas, I was mistaken,
For Jenny'd drawn my charges, and a prisoner I was taken.
The version that seems most popular nowadays has:
But Jenny'd drawn my charges, and she filled them up with water...
And, later,
But I couldn't shoot the water, so a prisoner I was taken.
What's with the water? Surely drawing the charges would be enough to render the pistols useless. Why would Jenny go to the unneccessary, likely finicky action of adding the water, possibly risking waking up the guy? It adds an unnecessary verse to the song, and doesn't make any sense. Or can someone who knows about old weaponry set me straight?
While we're on the subject of "Whiskey in the Jar", I was told that someone who sang the song in Kentucky got an unexpected reaction from the line "Some takes delight in the hurling and the bowling". It seems that "hurling" has a sexual connotation in that area. Can anyone confirm this?
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Subject: RE: Firearms query from 'Whiskey in the Jar'
From: Charley Noble
I suppose filling the pistols with water would make it more difficult to re-charge the pistols but it does seem excessive. Maybe Jenny demanded another verse.
I always thought "hurling" had to do with the process of vomiting. Frank Warner sings the line as "Some takes delight in fishing and the bowling" and Molly cuts out Jenny, who "fired off my pistols, and she loaded them with pepper." Well, that gets you out of the water!
From: JohnInKansas
Assuming that the era of the song is from blackpowder days, the powder consisted mainly of a nitrate and some "filler." The filler was usually a mix of sulphur and sugar - at least in the "home-brew" powder days.
Nitrates are very much soluble in water, so even slight amounts of water render the powder inert (but maybe tasty?).
As I recall, the third or fourth of the "General Rules of Action" for Rogers Rangers - well known in US scouting groups - is "Always keep your powder dry."
From: Gary T
I learned it as "Jenny took me charges..."
I understand it to mean she took said charges and wet them, then replaced them. Presumably, he would have noticed right away if they were missing, but didn't notice they were wet until it was too late.
I don't know anything about Kentucky hurling, but it sounds interesting! (BG)
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Hurling is a game, I believe, much like field hockey, only with attitude. Actually similar in some ways to laccross.
I'd be pretty much unconcerned about the water in the gun issue, suffice to say the woman arranged for the capture of our hero.
Depending on the version was it Colonel Pepper, Captain Farrell, or Willie Farrell?
Most people newly introduced to the song are done so by a version from Metalica. That means confused lyrics and no melody. But a resistable beat ;-/
I'd have to read the "Jenny took me charges" as "she took their usefulness away." Maybe a stretch, but anything else would offend the sensibilities of people of the era.
It is extremely difficult to remove the charge from most blackpowder firearms, except by discharging them. The "ball" is pressed, usually with considerable force, through the barrel and on top of the powder, or charge.
If possible, the simple method of removal is to fire the weapon. Otherwise, you need a long wire with a sharp screw thread on the end, to screw into the ball, and then a strong arm to pull it out. They come out harder than they go in.
Pouring a little water down the bore will sometimes do, but the ball may be tight enough to keep it from reaching the powder. A few of drops of water on the "flash hole" or in the primer pan would quite reliably "disarm" our victim.
Note that these methods are not reliable in modern blackpowder groups, since a substance called Pyrodex has come on the scene. It burns like black powder, measures like black powder, and smokes and stinks like black powder, but is relatively immune to moisture.
From: Charcloth
The old cap & ball & the old flintlock fire arms used what we call today "black powder" Once it is wet it is totaly useless. Remember the movie "The Last of the Mohicans" their powder got wet after going into the cave behind the waterfall so the 3 of them left knowing they couldn't put up a fight. As I understand the US Navy still uses black powder for their big naval cannons. It has something to do with the pressure being lower than todays "Smokeless" Powder. JohninKansass is right about the old saying "Keep your powder dry". Hope this helps. I will have to ask me mother (she's a "briar")about the Ky. Hurling, that's a new one on me. Charcloth
From: Amos
I believe Frank Warner's version leaves Molly's water out of it, and says "I flew for me pistols, but alas I was mistaken, for I fired off my pistols and a prisoner I was taken..." which makes sense if you are woken up with guards around you "in numbers odd and even...".
His "delights" omit hurling, as mentioned -- they are fishing, bowling, and the carriages a-rolling.
Of course this is from memory, not authoritative.
And now that you guys have made me think about it.
A blackpowder flintlock would be loaded by pouring the powder "charge" down the barrel, but this portion of the powder might commonly be called the "load." A ball, usually with a cloth "patch" would then be rammed down on top of the "load."
In a long gun, like a rifle or musket, that is how the gun would be carried. Immediately before firing, a smaller amount of powder - sometimes the same as the load, and sometimes a special "finer" powder, would be poured into the flash pan - "charging" the gun. The flint makes a spark to ignite the "charge" in the flash pan, which transmits a flame through the flash hole to ignite the "load."
Since pistols were intended to be "at the ready," the flash pan usually had a tighter cover that would be pushed aside by the flint. It was thus possible to "charge" them in advance.
The amount of powder used in the flash pan is very small, and would not be missed by "feel" if simply poured out, but a careful bandit might actually look, so a small spit in the pan might be more likely to fool him. At any rate, the "charges" refered to are most likely only the small bit of powder in the flash pan - and he's done in by a triviality.
DonM., I believe the first version I learned had "Colonel Pepper", but now I sing "Captain Farrell", just because it sings better, I find. I've never hear "Willie Farrell".
Also, some versions have "Molly" rather than "Sportin' Jenny". The latter rhymes with some other stuff, so I use it in my version.
Some versions have "the football and the bowling". I understand that in Northern Ireland hurling (or "hurley") is the Catholic sport, football (soccer, not rugby, Canadian or American football) is the Protestant sport. (This was in an article explaining why the Belfast hockey team in the U.K. league is well supported -- it's a non-sectarian sport.) So I'm speculating that the versions with "football" are Northern Protestant.
Makes sense to me, John--she would only need to wet the charge(s)--would they also be called primers?
My picture of "took/drew/had drawn" is that she physically took the gun or store of charging powder into the next room to do her thing. She would then have obviously returned it whence it came. In another version I've heard, she takes his pistol(s) away, leaving only his rapier available. Either way, as Don Meixner noted, the effect is the same.
From: GUEST,Guest
In the earliest known version, "Patrick Flemming", the line just reads - "Then she loaded my arms with water".
This was probably written within a few days of the execution of Flemming on Apr. 24, 1650, but the earliest extant copy of the ballad is about a century and a half later, give or take about a quarter of a century.
See the ballad (Patrick Flemming) in the Scarce Songs 2 file at www.erols.com/olsonw
There is also a click-on there to a short history of the very real Patrick Flemming.
Thanks, everybody. I now know *way* more than I used to about black powder loading, and even a bit more about the song as well.
From: MartinRyan
The "bowling", incidentally, probably refers to "road-bowling". This is a sort of grown-up version of marbles played on the public road! Now largely confined to Cork and, interestingly, Armagh.
From: kendall
In the version I learned from Buryl Ives, he sang it, ..It was early in the morning between six and seven guards were all around me they numbered odd and even, I flew to me pistols but, alas I was mistaken, I fired off me pistols and a prisoner I was taken....
I'm not sure if he was singing it, I fired off me pistols, or I'D fired, past tense. The other difference is, some take delight in fishing and FOWLING,...(shooting birds) An old name for a shotgun is "fowling piece".
From: Kim C
JohninKansas, most serious blackpowder shooters I know refuse to use Pyrodex, maybe because they do living history events which forbid anything but real black powder. But most folks I have talked to don't like it much. I personally have never used it myself, because Mister won't have it in the house.
I always thought it was fishin & bowlin. I think I've also heard a version that says drinkin & bowlin. Aw heck, now I don't remember!
Agreed that there are many who still use black powder, the point was that clever women who intend to do in their men by trachery should know that the old tricks might not work.
Black powder is still very much in use in the military - for blank cartridges, mostly. In "trad" gins, it produces a most impressive smoke, and it also has the advantage of much lower pressures than more modern propellants. More modern powders increase their rate of burning as pressure builds up, but without a projectile to retain sufficient pressure, they make a very unimpressive "salute."
The downside is that black powder leaves corrosives behind, and when you use it you MUST clean your "piece" thoroughly, if you don't want to find a pile of rust the next time you get it out.
Now, what on earth would make you think that any of us Cat women would be that treacherous? ;-)
My flintlock rifle gets off about 10 shots before she's utterly filthy. Blech.
I used to hunt deer with a flintlock. Gave it all up 20 years ago.
The ballad sheet versions in the Bodleian all seem to have "fishing and fowling" BTW>
That's "Metallica".
Metallica's "Whiskey In The Jar" is simply a cover of the original rock-ified version done by Irish rock group Thin Lizzie in the 70's. Metallica's cover is amazingly close to the original Thin Lizzy arrangement. So don't blame the words or music on Metallica.
I'd also like to say that I'd never been able to understand the tune of the song (I knew it as only "Kilgary Mountain" for years) until I heard Metallica's cover. It finally made sense.
From: Joe_F
The saying as I have heard it was the mildly cynical "*Trust in God and* keep your powder dry".
From: GUEST,Lil VanBone
Well Jenny's a trickster, and while she could have just taken the charges and saved some work, she could also have just taken the guns away. Not this Jenny, nope, she had to make her husband look like a fool while the water dripped out of his guns. Definately shows how malicious she was.
From: Kaleea
In the 1960's Peter, Paul & Mary sneaked "Whiskey in the Jar" past the censors by calling it "Kilgerry Mountain." Growing up in the Irish music scene, I heard the words sung as: 1. As I was goin over the far famed Kerry Mountains I met with Captain Farrell & his money he was countin I first produced me pistol and then produced me rapier saying stand & deliver for for you are the bold deceiver (nonsense words which vary from singer to singer) cho: with your dum diddle diddy fi o whack fol a diddle o whack fol a diddle o there's whiskey in the jar. 2.I counted out me money & it made a pretty penny I put it in me pocket & I took it home to Jenny. She sighed & she swore that she never would deceive me but the divil take the women for they never can be easy. cho 3. I went into me chamber for to take me a slumber I dreamt of gold & jewels & sure twas no wonder For Jenny took me charges (as in bullets) and filled them up with water and sent for Captain Farrell to be ready for the saughter cho 4. Twas early in the mornin, before I rose to travel the guards were all around me & likewise Captain Farrell I then produced me pistol for she stole away me rapier (an 18 inch long sword) But I couldn't shoot the water so a prisoner I was taken. cho When I've been in Ireland, I sometimes have heard this sung, and it is pretty much the same as I heard growing up. There is usually a 5th verse about the brother in the army & they go "a rovin'" I never heard anyone sing the phrases mentioned above, and have never heard the rock groups do it, only traditional Irish musicians.
Kaleea, you jogged my memory. When I posted this above--In another version I've heard, she takes his pistol(s) away, leaving only his rapier available.--I was mixed up--it was his rapier she took, not his pistol. I stand corrected.
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 07 Nov 01 - 01:05 AM
---"For Molly hid me pistols and a prisoner I was taken" ----"Some take delight in the fishin' and the bowlin'" These are the words I have used for donkey's years; not that it matters, the song holds up well with a variety of lyrics--"Molly", "Jenny", etc.. Boab
"The only one can aid me is me brother in the Army;
But i don't know where he's posted, up in Cork or in Killarney..."
That's the Auld Country version -- for obvious reasons by the time Warner collected it in the uplands of New York state, or wherever he found it, the reference to Irish counties had fallen away.
From: SeanM
Speaking from a Rennie perspective...
The friends I have who use black powder weapons back up the 'watered powder' idea. It renders the powder more or less inert, and (as noted above) is a BITCH to clean out. Discovering this in the midst of a fight where said weapons were your only defense would be VERY nasty.
All things considered, it's a class of song that I'd sum up nicely in "Gee, wish I spent my time in better company"...
From: Whitewater
More information about what were termed 'nonsense words' by Kaleea, unless she was referring to the chorus, which of course ARE nonsense but a very important part of Irish folk life :>
'Stand and deliver!" was the phrase commonly used by highwaymen (and women) to announce their presence to their victim/quarry along whichever road they were working just before they demanded the money and valuables. Highwaymen were apparent in every era and century but were most prevalent, apparently, in the late 1600's to the early 1800's.
Charges were generally hung around the upper body on what we now call a bandolier and were nicknamed The Twelve Apostles. They are about, oh, the length of between your fully extended thumb and forefinger and carry maybe about 100 grams of powder, generally enough for two-four shots depending, with a cork or some other contraption that fits firmly in the top. Dunno how much they can carry if packed really full, as we in our living history group only carry enough to fire a total of about six times per weapon, also to prevent spillage because besides being expensive, it's also dangerous around open fire, flint/tinder etc. What surprises me about the songs ref. is not that she filled the charges up with water (trying to pour water into your pan or down the barrell would NOT be good!) but that there are/were charges available for pistols. Were they smaller sized or what? I've only seen them (in paintings and other primary sources) full-size.
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
As a point of military history, being caught with an unloaded musket is probably safer than being caught with a loaded one, since you don't have to waste any time firing an unloaded one. They were always (early ones anyway) more effective when used as a good, stout club...
From: John P
Tequila in the Jar
by Bob Kotta
As I was goin' through the mountains of Morelos
I spied Captain Sanchez, he was countin' his dineros
I pulled out my pistola and stuck it in his middle
Saying, "Give me all your money 'cause I am a bad bandido!"
Muchos gringos trabahar,
Whack fol the barrio, whack fol the barrio,
Es tequila in the jar.
I took all that money and went home to my Maria
She say them shining pesos and said, "It's good to see ya!"
She vowed and she swore that she'd never blow my cover
But never trust a woman if she's got another lover!
I woke up the next morning, had a breakfast of tamales
When the casa was surrounded by a bunch of Federales
They kicked in the door and they broke the window latches
And took me off to prison, but they had no stinkin' badges!
In the calaboose they put me with all the other fellows
For robbin' Captain Sanchez in the mountains of Morelos
But they didn't take my reefers so I got the jailer loaded
And then I ran away while his mind it was eroded
I think I'll find me brother, the one who's in Ayisto
We'll get ourselves a Chevy and go up to San Fransico
Together we'll go crusin' and pretend like we are machos
Pick up pretty women, get 'em drunk and feed 'em nachos!
From: Fiolar
Bowling as mentioned earlier in the thread has very little to do with marbles. The sport consists of throwing a 28 ounce iron ball over a measured course always played on the roads around County Cork and in Armagh. The winner was the person who completed the distance in the least number of throws. It was always to the best of my rememberance played on Sunday afternoons when traffic was at a minumum. It required quite a degree of skill to keep the missile on the road and prevent it going into a dike or ditch. Also a highly experienced individual could cut down the number of throws by lofting the bowl across bends in the road. Cork mudcatters will recall the famous bowler "Flor Lar" who was able to clear the viaduct on the main Cork to Bandon road which was some 150 to 200 feet high. Young bowlers used to start out with a 14 ounce bowl. Happy days.
Forgot to mention that hundreds of pounds often were lost and won on the results of a bowling match.
From: Wolfgang
When I read the description of road-bowling I realised it is virtually identical to 'Boßeln' played traditionally in a tiny part of the very North-West of Germany and the very North-East of the Netherlands (neighbouring regions). I went to their homepage and found out that they have European championships every four years in the three disciplines:
Irish iron bowl
Frisian wood bowl and
Dutch bowl
The championships are exclusively in Germany or Holland or Ireland. I guess it would be formally correct to call the three countries event (with a rare Italian team) a world championship.
From: GUEST,Swan
I would have thought Jenny clearly filled whatever it was up with water so that the songmaker could rhyme it with the more dramatic 'slaughter' rather than the more mundane 'taken'.
This is obviously a song which has been influenced by the folk process during its long life.
An uninformed observation would be that "fishing and fowling" would probably have gone together in an early version, in an era when many people might have supplemented their rations with 'the bounty of the land.' Most people who did one of these would likely also do the other.
"Hurling and bowlng" would seem to go together, and would be the appropriate 'set' for a society in which recreational(?) activities were common. Perhaps implying a more "urban" populace.
Other "pairs" that have been mentioned seem somewhat a mixed bag. Perhaps this particular phrase is a clue to the time and locale in which a version originates.
From: Daystar
The song is one we get asked for at renactment does Roy harris did a version on Champions of Folly as to black powder some time charges are made up in readyness if you dont have a powder flask so Jenny could have stolen them and put water in the pan to make extra sure he could not fire the pistol
From: Gareth
Which comes back to the old arguments on cartridges. The redcoats using Tower Pattern Muskets, ( or indeed the Green Jackets using rifles) were issued with premeasured ball and black powder made up in Cartidge Paper. The bandolieers with the 12 Apostols were from an earlier era, (inc UK civil war).
The cartridges were greased in animal fat (See the Indian Mutiny)
Diferent ages, different loading techniques.
But I'll go along with Dai - when your musket/pistols were fired the most effective use was as a club !! - hence the issue of very long bayonets to the rifles and known as swords.
You don't have that problem with the long bow but then drill could teach a farmhand how to load and fire a musket by wrote. The bow required years of practice.
BTW the large calibre fire arms used by the British Army were more to do with physically stopping an oncharging Zulu or Pathan (Pushtu) than accuracy - If you want an excellent example of old fashioned infantry drill with the 0.44 single shot Martini Rifle see the film ZULU
And see ZULU just for the music!
From: Mudlark
John P....thanks for the great parody...I've never seen it before. These threads turn up the most intereting stuff...
From: The Walrus at work
Gareth,
Sorry to be pedantic, but the "greased" cartiridges didn't come in until the 1850s (in the British Army, not until the introduction of the 1853 Enfield rifled musket) - on the subject of the "grease", the only examples I have seen have been waxed, not greased.
The large calibe was more to do with black powder as a propellant than any hitting power and only became an issue after the introduction of rifling and breech loading for the majority of the Army (remember, on the general introduction of rifles, the calibre dropped from .75" to .577") (British military handguns, however, remained large calibre for just that reason).
From: McGrath of Harlow
Hurling - the most exciting field sport there is. Here is a link to the Gaelic Athletic Association website - and here is a website with lots of picture and stuff.
As for road bowling with cannonballs - it's spread a bit further than Cork and Armagh - here is a site from New Zealand where it seems to be going strong.
From: Keith A of Hertford
John P, excellent! Is "stinking badges" from Blazin Saddles?
Keith, it's from "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre," starring Humphrey Bogart.
No comment on "Ivor Emanuel" in ZuLu - sorry South Wales cultral joke.
Walrus - yet again you fill in the points I missed, but the Apostles dates back to the matchlock !!! Though again the question of greased caetrides fits to the Indian mutiny.
I fired a replica tower musket once - oooh it hurt my shoulder.
Anyone noticed "There's Whiskey in the Jug", 1858 (with music), on the Levy collection website? It's only slightly later than the earliest (Hodges) issue of "Whiskey in the Jar" on the Bodleian Ballads website, and earlier than the other 3 issues there. The girl is Molly in these. Is Jenny found before the 20th century?
When was "Patrick Flemming" reworked into "Whiskey in the Jar"? c 1850?
From: The Walrus
Indeed the "Twelve Apostles" date from the 17th Century and are possibly (no evidence) the first use of premeasured charges for firearms, but I've always assumed this song to be later {1}. I suspect the term "charges" in the song refer to the loaded round rather than any particular means of loading the weapon, however the powder is carried, the weapon is still "charged".
On the subject of Pyrodex (mentioned in a couple of earlier posts), I understood that it was generally used in ammunition for cartridge weapons which were only "proofed" for black powder (example, the pre-1900 Webley revolvers), but NOT for muzzle loaders.
{1} I tend to associate "apostles" with muskets and carbiners rather than pistols
Keith A,
"stinking badges" is, I think, from a Cheech and Chong skit and refers to the sometimes irregular nature of Mexican law enforcement.
Pyrodex can be used pretty much interchangeably with black powder. It is apparently a more modern "smokeless?" propellant, mixed with a filler so that a given quantity, by volume - as black powder is usually measured in field use, gives about the same propellant energy as would be obtained with black powder. It can be used in muzzle loaders, flintlocks or cap and ball, or in cartridge loads for guns designed in the black powder era.
It is formulated to be "pressure regressive" like black powder - above a certain pressure the rate of burning of black powder tends to slow down. Most smokeless powders actually increase the rate of burning with increasing pressure, at least up to a point, - and a small error in quantity could easily blow your gun apart. Smokeless powder generally must be accurately weighed - you don't just pour a jigger down the muzzle.
Reenactment people probably prefer to use the "real" black powder, for the sake of authenticity. It does make somewhat more impressive smoke.
Both are used in "blackpowder" or "muzzleloading" hunting seasons, where states designate them. Both are also used in "blackpowder" target shooting.
Unless the situation has changed recently, there is no US manufacturer of "real" black powder now, and Pyrodex is safer and easier to ship and store.
Re: "steenkin bodges" - its from Treasure of the Sierra Madres" - Bogart; stolen, mangled, and used in Blazing Saddles and elsewhere. See Cowboy Lines for a recent debate.
From: Julie B
Re. the chorus, I know the last three lines are usually something like:
"whack fol the daddy o,
whack fol the daddy o,
There's whiskey in the jar."
...but what version(s) of the first chorus line do people most commonly sing?
From: Snuffy
musha ring dummer doo dummer da
musha ring durrem doo durrem da
WassaiL! V
From: Mrrzy
I heard it as WISHA ring dumado dumada.
GREAT parody!
Great info, I'd always wondered about this.
I'm familiar with:
Mush a rig um dur um die
Now, as to them badges:
In "Treasure of the Sierra Madre," Bogie and his prospector pals are heading back to civilization with their gold dust. They run across a group of bandits who claim to be sheriffs (& deputies?). One of the prospectors says something like, "If you're sheriffs, let's see your badges." The response is (in essence), "Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!" at which point the bandits go for their guns. Our heroes, however, outshoot them. I'm not familiar with who has adopted this line and used it elsewhere, but I'm sure this is its origin.
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 29 Oct 08 - 12:43 PM
"As a point of military history, being caught with an unloaded musket is probably safer than being caught with a loaded one, since you don't have to waste any time firing an unloaded one. They were always (early ones anyway) more effective when used as a good, stout club..."
But that only holds for close quarter fighting. If your opponent with a loaded musket and possibly bayonet are holding you at arm's length, then you are stuck.
"Well Jenny's a trickster, and while she could have just taken the charges and saved some work, she could also have just taken the guns away. Not this Jenny, nope, she had to make her husband look like a fool while the water dripped out of his guns. Definately shows how malicious she was."
Not dripping, just enough to render the powder useless. I don't think they were married either, especially not in the verisons where she is called sportin' Jenny, a term for a prostitue.
From: EBarnacle
Musha ringum Turtle dove.
A rapier would most likely have a 30" +/- blade, as it was likely to be needed as a weapon. See the specs for epees and foils in various fencing threads. [Also bear in mind Crocodile Dundee's comment when a thief tells him to give up his cash because he has a knife: "That's no knife, THIS is a knife."] Similarly, a 19" blade would be a laughing stock.
Date: 31 Jan 13 - 05:15 AM
In the incident this is loosely based on, a highwayman named Patrick Fleming was a highwayman so supported and beloved by everyone except the nobility and English landlords, that he couldn't be caught, much like Jesse James. But he let it go to his head, and started robbing and mistreating common folk.
Specifically, he brought his entire gang into taverns, then didn't pay for their lodgings, food, and drink when they left.
On the verse in point, it was actually an innkeeper, not Jenny, who Drew his charges and filled them up with water.
Pub operators commonly kept a supply of opium around, and when a customer got too rowdy and dangerous, he would dose their drink with opium and put them to sleep. Then they could be peacefully removed from the premises.
Having been stiffed numerous times by Fleming he put an end to it by drugging them all, then going to each one of them to pour water into the flash pans of their flintlock pistols.
After he had all of the pan powder wetted, so the guns wouldn't fire, he called the sheriff to come get them.
Fleming and his 14 men were taken to Dublin and hanged on April 24th, 1650.
Fleming had become so hated among the aristocracy that he was hanged... twice.
After hanging him, they took his body down, wrapped it in chains, then hanged him again beside the road, outside of town, leaving the body to rot and be eaten by crows.
From: bubblyrat
No US manufacturer of real blackpowder in 2001 ?? So who made the gunpowder used in vast quantities in the main armament of the battleships Iowa ,Missouri , et al ? They used gunpowder rather than cordite , didn't they ?
From: GUEST,999
Black powder available here.
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 31 Jan 13 - 12:54 PM
Hurling is the Irish game closely akin to hockey, but with no restriction on getting the ball in the air.
Tossing the ball in the air and whacking it with a full swing from the Hurley (a wider faced hockey stick) could send the hard ball up field at well over 100mph, where it would be neatly picked out of the air with a stick blade and sent on again to another player.
Some of the harder types would catch it one handed.
It's a fast and furious game in which taking your eye off the ball could be fatal, but injuries (well, serious ones) are surprisingly rare, as the players are uaually highly skilled and accurate.
Hockey for hard men, my Irish father called it.
In 2001, it was confirmed that there was no manufacturer of black powder in operation in the US. The last US manufacturer (which I believe was DuPont?) lost their factory in an accident and as of 2001 had chosen not to resume production. There was/is some demand for it, so in the decade since a few small suppliers have come into existence, but I don't have information at hand on whether they actually make the powder or just remix and package imported powder under new brand names.
Black powder is simple enough to make that early farmers often made their own for purposes like stump blasting, and commercial black powder was still in use when the railroad blasted its way through to Hutchinson, Kansas in the mid/late 1800s (souvenir pictures at hand), but more modern explosives are much safer and it's seldom used much anymore.
Black powder (original or as Pyrodex) is still used for "blanks" and possibly for the "flash-bang" type of assault/crowd control charges popularized by a couple of TV "spy epics." (I've never seen a documented use of "flash bangs" by police, but ... ) The uses in blank cartridges are due to the pressure regressive burning (a chemical characteristic) that prevents pressure buildup if the gun isn't too clean, impressive smoke, and sometimes for the bright burning powder ejected due to slow/incomplete burning in the gun.
A disadvantage of black powder is that the residues left in the barrel are extremely corrosive, partly because they're mostly hygroscopic and absorb moisture, and "extensive cleaning rituals" are necessary after each use that are generally unneeded with more modern propellants. In fixed cartridges, corrosive primers continued in some use long after smokeless powder went away, but more modern cartridges generally use noncorrosive primers and minimize the need for very frequent cleaning almost entirely, with congealed lubricants being more of a problem than powder/primer residues.
Chemically, most "smokeless" powders are slightly pressure progressive, but this characteristic can be controlled by details, mostly the geometry of the individual "grains" that make the burning "rate regressive" or "rate progressive.
A "disk" shaped grain will burn on the surface so that the burning surface is relatively constant until it's all gone. This powder grain shape is used in many small arms loads.
A solid rod that burns mostly on the cylindrical surface reduces the burning surface as it burns, so the rate at which gas is produced slows down as the grains are consumed. Sometimes used in shotgun sized cartridges to reduce "muzzle report."
A cylindrical tube can be nearly "rate neutral" since the increase in burning area in the hole offsets the decrease in burning area on the outside.
Multiple lengthwise holes in a cylinder can produce much more increase in the holes than the decrease on the outer cyclinder surface, and can make a "rate progressive" grain.
Highly progressive powders are generally used only in very large bore guns, where the bore volume to be filled with gases increases at increasing rate as the projectile accelerates inside the gun, and a lot of gas is needed to maintian the pressure in the expanding tube volume.
So far as is reported, even the largest naval guns have used "smokeless" powder since it's been available, although it remains "separate loaded," with the projectile rammed into the tube followed by separate bags (or cans) of "powder." I don't have documentation on when the transition was made, but it's been quite a while.
Traditional black powder would possibly (likely?) still be used in large guns for ceremonial "salutes" since the extra smoke is impressive.
ALL PROPELLANTS are "deflagrating" compounds when used as intended. That is, they burn and DO NOT EXPLODE.
Explosives, that DETONATE, are an entirely different matter, and for the most part have nothing much to do with guns.
(Or so it was taught to the US Army Ordnance gang half a century ago.)
From: GUEST,highlandman at work
10,000 points for knowing the distinction between deflagration and detonation!
highlandman -
it gets most important when you deal with something that can go either way, like the ethylene gas used for flame welding.
At low pressures it burns, fairly mildly until you add oxygen.
Compressed to a little over 150 psi IT DETONATES spontaneously (and powerfully).
That's why it has to be "dissolved in acetone" to be stored at common tank pressures of a couple of thousand psi to get a useful amount in the bottle - hence the common name "acetylene" (acetone-ethylene).
Lots of such fascinating, and mostly totally useless, things one picks up along the way.
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Feb 13 - 07:12 PM
The way I learned it in the early 1950s from a fellow who got it off a Frank Warner record:
I went up to me chamber for to take a slumber.
I dreamt of gold and jewels and sure, it is no wonder;
But Molly took my pistols and she filled them full of water
And sent for Colonel Pepper to make ready for the slaughter.
Moosha-ringum-doorum dah, whack fol-the-daddy-o
Whack fol-the-daddy-o, there's whiskey in the jar.
I woke up next mornin', 'twas 'twixt six and seven.
The guards, they stood around me all in numbers odd and even.
I pulled forth my pistols, but, alas, I was mistaken.
I tried to fire them off, but a prisoner I was taken.
(Chorus: Moosha. . . .)
A single shot muzzle-loader flintlock pistol, loaded with powder and ball, along with wadding and with the aid of a small ramrod stored under the barrel (CLICKY). They often traveled in pairs, along with a powder horn and a bag of shot and wadding. The powder was highly susceptible to losing its potency if wet, so pouring water into the loaded barrel would very effectively sabotage the pistol. Molly wouldn't have had to "pull the charges." Dunking the pistols or pouring water in the pan or barrel would have been a quick and easy way to turn them into paper-weights.
Origin of the admonition, "Keep your powder dry." They weren't talking about face powder and shiny noses here. Any soldier in the field or deer hunter seeking to fill his larder with the aid of his trusty flintlock would be out of commission if his gunpowder got wet.
By the way, if you're ever at a target range and someone comes in with a black powder musket or pistol, try to stand up-wind. Those beasts spew a lot of smoke when they belch forth, and if you're down-wind—
STINK like you wouldn't believe!! PEEYOU!!
Don Firth
From: Mysha
Speed of propagation: Deflagration is subsonic, detonation is supersonic. I can't recall either word in versions of Whiskey in the Jar, though.
Mysha
Although I don't have a lot of historical info to go on, at least later muzzle loaders always used a patch around the "bullet" when it was rammed down onto the powder charge. Where rapid loading might be needed, the fit might not have been particularly tight, but the patch was nearly always greased (or waxed) and would be expected to quite effectively seal the bullet in the barrel so that pouring water down the barrel would be unlikely, at least over a short time, to get sufficient water to the main powder charge to cause much harm to the powder. If left long enough to have a reliable effect moving the gun in almost any way would be likely to reveal the deed by water, not absorbed into the powder, running back out of the barrel.
The primer, or "flash charge" in the pan (often called the "flash pan" in fact) where the flint (or other device) ignited it would be easily rendered inert by even a small amount of water.
The flame produced by the flash charge reached the main powder charge through an open "flash hole" that would possibly admit some water to the main charge if a fairly large amount of water was applied there. The flash hole, however, was generally quite small and it might not have been large enough to avoid a "miniscus" block, making it difficult to destroy the main charge without more than casual pressure or by "squirting" water at the hole with some force/velocity. Getting enough water through the flash hole to completely destroy the main charge would be a bit like trying to put toothpaste back into the tube.
Although a well-knapped flint can produce a significant visible bunch of sparks, the sparks are generally small, and carry little heat. It's a tossup whether it would be necessary to "deactivate" even the entire flash pan charge, or whether a small spit sufficient to quench the sparks on a "dampish" surface of the powder in the pan would suffice to prevent ignition of the charge and would render the gun useless without being obvious except under very close inspection.
In rare but fairly recent usage, I've heard she "spit in his pan" used with the meaning of "she rejected (forcefully) his planned activity," in a group not having a particular knowledge of black power so far as I know - although I'll admit it was a rather strange group. (She, of course, being invariably a spouse?) I suspect this is a surviving form of what was originally intended in the lyric(?) - or maybe not(?).
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 02 Feb 13 - 04:08 AM
Jaysus, do you people go around analysing songs in the hope of finding mistakes ?
Just sing it and enjoy.
Dave H
I wonder if Sergeant Pepper had his source in a memory of this song?
From: Ged Fox
I'm surprise that no-one has mentioned the similar dirty trick in the C17th? ballad of the Death of Parcy Reed
"O some they stole his powder-horn,
And some put water in his lang gun:
'O waken, waken, Parcy Reed!
For we do doubt thou sleeps too sound"
From: Steve Parkes
Some years ago at (I think) Bedford (England) Folk Music Club, the question arose of why Jenny spiked his guns and/or shopped him. I went home and thought about it, and I present the result below.
When I was with that Kevin, the one from Killarney,
He was always showing off, he'd a smashing line in Blarney.
Once he pinched a pair of pistols when he'd had a drop of beer,
Then he said, "Here Jenny, I've just had a great idea!"
Musha … (etc)
Next morning he rose early, despite a bad hangover
From a record-breaking pub-crawl with this best mate, the Wild Rover,
You'd think this was a hotel – when he felt like it he'd drop in:
And who had to do the washing and the cleaning and the shopping?
When he came home later on, well his dinner was stone-cold,
But he emptied out his pockets and produced a pile of gold.
He said "Who's a clever boy then, me darlin' sportin' Jenny?"
Thinks I, you'll piss it up the wall and I won't see a penny!
That night I took his pistols and I filled them up with water,
'Cos I knew he'd be arrested, and I didn't want no slaughter;
When they picked him up next morning, he was hardly compliment'ry!
But I heard he got away when he knocked down a sentry.
He went and joined his brother, the one that's in the army,
Now they ride the range together – well, the pair of them are barmy!
I suppose I'm well rid – after all, he was a mugger;
But still, I must admit, that I miss the silly bugger.
(C) Steve Parkes
From: GUEST,Avesso
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 10:52 AM
I saw the debate about whether and why would jenny put water in the main character's gun. I would like to add that most woman dont know how to handle guns (take off the charges? pff) so probably water was their way to disarm a gun
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 12:34 PM
No comment about the knowledge women might have about guns in the place/time of the songs, but "over here" many of the women were quite familiar with them. The women loaded while the men fired when there was lots of shootin' to be done, and most could grab a gun and shoot it if the wolves got after the livestock.
(I might have a different idea than some from tales of my great granny who trapped furs and teamed a mule wagon to make the money to prove out her homestead claim. She was single doin' it all until she proved (fully owned) the claim and the ol' fart next door proposed.)
Verse from "Sweet Betsy from Pike:"
The injuns come down in a wild, yellin' horde
And Betsy got skeered they would scalp her adored,
So behind the front wagonwheel Betsy did crawl,
And there with her musket, she murdered them all!
Annie Oakley, Calamity Jane, all kinds of women right handy with firearns.
I was out with a couple of friends one afternoon in an area close to a steep bluff that would serve as a good backstop so bullets wouldn't go flying off we knew not where. We had a good supply of empty beer and soft drink cans which we filled with water and lined up on a fence. A Coke can full of water makes a very satisfactory geyser when hit square on with a 9 mm. slug.
Marcia, my friend's wife picked up her husband's .45 automatic, loaded the clip with five rounds, and turned toward the fence with a row of water-filled cans line up on it.
A couple of other guys who were there (who didn't know Marcia) commented that, "Man, a woman really can't handle a .45 auto. Too much recoil, and a woman's wrist is just not strong enough to handle it!"
Marcia overheard this. And said nothing. She just smiled sweetly, aimed the .45 cal. brute, and fired five shots as fast as she could pull the trigger. All five cans were in the air and spouting water at the same time.
Again, Marcia smiled sweetly at them, and reloaded to do it again.
The guys got the message and were suitable put in their place. No more macho comments out of them.
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