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Crossing Olympus Preview
Nick Shipley April 03, 2018
Quick Look: Crossing Olympus
Designer: Peter Steinau
Artist: R.M.
Publisher: Bold Move Games
No. of Players: 2
Playing Time: 30-90 minutes
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WARNING: This is a preview of Crossing Olympus. All components and rules are prototype and subject to change.
Fed up with the foolishness of mortals, the Gods of Olympus have gathered to debate the fate of mankind.
Take control of the twelve Olympian Gods and Goddesses, each bringing a unique ability that can alter the fate of your competition.
Who will be the first to cross Mount Olympus?
Rules and Game Play: In Crossing Olympus, players compete to be the first to meet one of the following conditions: 1) move one of their gods onto their opponent's gate space, 2) destroy all of their opponent's gods, or 3) prohibit their opponent from taking any further action (i.e. summoning, moving, attacking). If a player meets one of these conditions, they have won the game and have either saved, or destroyed, humanity.
Dark and Light Zeus.
Gameplay starts with each player selecting either the light or dark version of mythological gods, receiving the corresponding god cards, and assuming position at the corresponding side of the play mat. The light and dark versions of the gods have the same actions/movements/attacks/health points, so there is no advantage of selecting one over the other.
Each player shuffles their character cards and takes three random gods. The cards in hand are essentially the player's draft pool from which they can summon gods onto the board. As gods are summoned, players will draw another card from their character deck to replenish their draft pool to three cards, unless no character cards remain.
On a player's turn, they have one of three options: Summon a god, Move a god, or Attack their opponent.
Hera summoned onto the dark version's gate.
Summon: When a player summons a god, the character marker is placed in on the starting space on the play mat, referred to as the "gate." When a god is summoned, it can also take a movement or attack action.
Move: Each god has a unique movement, ranging from one space in any direction to unlimited spaces on the row. There is an important distinction between "direct" movement and "any" movement. If a character has direct movement, it cannot deviate from the line of movement after it begins its movement. For example, if a character has three direct movements, the movements must be all the same direction, so a player could not move two spaces forward, and then one space diagonally. However, if a god has three movement in any direction, it is not limited to a direct line of movement, but instead could, for example, move one space diagonally, then one space backwards, and finally one space to the left.
Players are not required to take the maximum number of moves available to the god; a player can elect to move a god only two spaces, even though the god has the ability to move three. Also, players' gods cannot share spaces with their allies or opponents.
Attack: Each god has a unique attack that causes a different amount of damage to the receiving god(s). Gods cannot defend against an attack (with one exception mentioned below), so the only defense once in range of your opponent's attack is movement. Attacks cannot go through your other gods on the board, but they may go over or around them, depending on the attacking god.
Along with the unique movements and attacks, each god has a special ability that is triggered when certain conditions are met. Here is a list of the gods' special abilities and conditions to use them:
Light Hera
Zeus - Attack can pass over teammate or enemy character.
Hephaestus - Adds +1 damage to an adjacent player's attack.
Hera - 2X damage if attacking from the side or behind.
Poseidon - Attack knocks all hit enemies back one space.
Apollo - +1 damage on direct attacks.
Aphrodite - Switch places with any friend instead of moving or attacking. This is considered a complete turn.
Hermes - +1 movement to an adjacent god.
Dark Aphrodite
Ares - +1 damage to enemies when Ares lands on an adjacent space.
Artemis - Can do one damage to any enemy in exchange for one health point. This is considered a complete turn.
Dionysus - If this god lands on an enemy, they are removed them from the board.
Athena - Friendly gods on adjacent spaces are immune from damage.
Hades - May bind one enemy per turn. This ability is triggered when he moves next to or attacks an enemy. The bound enemy cannot move or attack as long as Hades remains on an adjacent space. Enemies will stay bound until he moves away from them or they die.
Light Dionysus
Theme and Mechanics: Simply put, the theme of Crossing Olympus revolves around the idea of the gods of Olympus becoming frustrated with humanity and debating whether or not they should wipe out humanity all together. After a short debate, it is decided that good versions of the gods will fight evil versions of themselves to decide the fate of humanity. If the good versions win, humanity goes on, but if the evil versions win, humanity is wiped out.
The mechanics seem to complement the theme. Zeus is traditionally viewed as the most powerful, and his attack does the most damage in the game. Hermes was the messenger with winged sandals, and in the game, he has great freedom in movement and increases the movement of those around him.
Crossing Olympus at its core is an abstract strategy/grid movement game. There are other mechanics, such as hand management, drafting, and area-control, but to overstate those would do a disservice to the main mechanics of the game. You and your opponent have equal resources, movements, and attacks. Victory is dependent on how a player utilizes or exploits those various actions.
Playmat grid as seen from the light side.
That's to not say that luck plays no part in the game. Though you have the same gods with the same abilities, a player's ability to summon a god is still limited to the gods in their draft pool, which will differ from game to game.
Artwork and Components: The game consists of one playmat, 24 god character cards, and 24 god markers. I felt that all of the components were high quality and would hold up through extensive play. The cards are an odd size (think slightly smaller than a postcard) and may be difficult to sleeve if you're into that kind of thing.
Dark versions of Ares, Hades, and Hephaestus.
I think the art is really good and flowed seamlessly through the playmat and gods. Greek mythology doesn't usually fall into my areas of interest, but I liked it as a theme.
Since it is unknown if the components and art I received are final, I am hesitant to spend too much time discussing them. I will say that if these components were what I received as a final product, I would be okay with it.
The Good: I really like the mechanics. It was reminiscent of chess, with just the slightest bit of luck thrown in. It also felt a little like an expanded Onitama, like Onitama and chess had a Greek baby. More on this under "Final Thoughts."
Another good thing is that after the first play, even though I got beat soundly, I wanted to play again. I can't say that about every game. As you play and are introduced to the characters and their special abilities, you start to chain them together in your mind and imagine how you would use them in future plays. This is due to the luck factor of the drafting and hand management mechanic.
Imagine playing chess where you blindly selected three pieces and you had to introduce one of the pieces to the board before getting another. You may get three pawns, or two knights and the queen, or the king, a pawn and the queen. All players will eventually have access to all of the same pieces, but the order is varied. This luck factor was implemented into the game and works really well. I don't think a player is ever going to win by luck alone, but you may be able to pair certain gods with each other, depending on the order they enter your draft pool. This also keeps the game from feeling the same through subsequent plays.
Apollo and Athena are a strong pair.
However, if you are the type that needs something more to refresh a game, I think that the game is prime for expansions. They could easily add new gods with different movements/attacks/abilities that would breathe new life into the game.
Finally, I enjoyed the theme. As stated above, I don't usually gravitate towards mythology-themed games, but when considering the narrative at the beginning of the rules that outlined why there are two versions of each god and what they were fighting for, coupled with really good art work and quality components, it all came together and it just... worked. It was more than, "You are playing as Zeus and your objective is..." The designer shared the reason why you are playing as Zeus, why he is fighting a mirror image of himself, and why it is important. I think that taking time to share the reason for the theme is often overlooked in rulebooks, but it's something that I enjoy. It doesn't take much, but it really helps me to be invested in the game, rather than simply playing it.
If you are colorblind, can you tell these apart?
The Bad: My biggest concern with this game is accessibility to the colorblind. Since the dark and light versions of the gods are mirror images of one another, there are only two very small differentiators that one can use to tell their god apart from their opponents - the white or black base, and the purple or yellow health point track. That being said, I am not colorblind, and I am not familiar enough with the color combinations that may cause trouble. The purple and yellow may in fact be colorblind friendly, and if that is the case, then that is great. If you are colorblind, you will know better than anyone if differentiating the pieces would be an issue.
How I see my character marker.
How my opponent sees the same character marker.
As much as I liked the narrative at the beginning of the rulebook, the rest of it could use a good scrubbing. The way things are laid out in a rulebook goes a long way with helping players understand the mechanics and general play of a game, and this is where I felt the game was lacking. The instructions had all of the information, but I didn't always find it easy to follow. There were several times in the beginning that my opponent and I were asking each other how we interpreted something simply because it wasn't always clear.
Another opportunity for clarity is with the god markers. Each side of the god marker is of the same image, instead of one side mirroring the other; this wouldn't be bad, except that it's sometimes confusing to track the health points of an opponent's god. For example, from your opponent's view, the health point gauge on the god marker is at three, but it looks like it's on five from yours. This led to some confusion and allegations of not tracking damage. That being said, since the components may not be final, I don't want this to detract from the rest of the game; it is, however, worth noting.
The Other: There's a big difference between a game with a 30-minute play time and a game with a 90-minute play time. This game has a range spanning both. I would prepare to spend closer to 60-90 minutes. This should decrease as you continue to familiarize yourself with the gods and their potential actions, but in my plays, we were always closer to 60 minutes rather than 30.
Final Thoughts: I am not a chess player, so I was afraid that I would get skewered for getting a strong chess-variant feel from this game. The unique movements of each god, the grid playmat, and the fact that this game is very close to being a pure abstract strategy game strangely reminded me of a game I admittedly do not play. That being said, my wife, who was my sole opponent for every play of this game leading up to the review, is a chess fan, and she thankfully got the same feeling.
Since there was consensus between a chess fan and a non-chess fan that the game has a chess-like feel, I wanted to capture the feelings of both. So, I have divided this "final thoughts" section into two parts - my thoughts (as someone that doesn't play chess) and a dramatic re-telling of a conversation with my wife (as someone who does).
My Thoughts: Though I do not play chess or any of its variants, I really enjoyed this game. It is intellectually stimulating and relies almost exclusively on strategy rather than luck, but it's that little bit of luck thrown in that keeps the game fresh.
I also felt a sense of accomplishment after each play, because although I lost every time I played my wife, it felt like I was getting better with each game. I was developing a skill rather than rolling a die and relying on chance. And the skill evolved, too; it wasn't simply employing the same strategy with each play, but building off of previous plays and looking at her movements as much as mine.
I think this game could appeal to chess fans and non-chess fans alike, though it was my experience that players familiar with chess hold a strong advantage over those who do not. However, I would think that could apply to many, if not all, strategy games.
I still feel that the rulebook could use a good scrubbing, but it was clear enough to play as-is.
Her Thoughts: Below is an accurate, re-telling of my wife, as a chess fan, sharing her opinion.
Me: What did you think of [Crossing Olympus]?
Her: It was fun, but I like any game that I consistently beat you at. It's like chess. A different version, but yeah... chess.
Me: Hurtful, but me too. I felt it was chess variant-esque, but since I don't play, I couldn't say for sure.
Her: Oh yeah, I got a real strong chess vibe. Dionysus' movement is the L-shaped movement of the knight. And take Hera. She is one of the strongest characters in terms of attacks and her ability is referred to as "Queen's Revenge". Zeus can only move one space, like the king. There are a lot of similarities.
Me: (In a slightly British accent) "In chess, the pawns go first."
Her: What?
Me: Magneto in X-Men 3.
Her: Random.
Me: Yeah, I felt left out since I wasn't using chess terminology. Crossing Olympus, did you like it?
Her: Yes.
Me: Does it have replayability?
Her: You mean, is it replayable?
Me: No, I mean replayability.
Her: Replayability isn't a word.
Me: Whatever, agree to disagree (*whispers* But you're wrong). Let me put it this way, could you see yourself wanting to play this again in the future?
Her: (*whispers* No, I'm not.) Yes, I would play it again.
Me: And the big question, would you back it on Kickstarter?
Players Who Like: Chess and its variants, or Onitama.
I am rating Crossing Olympus as chess fan tested, chess fan approved.
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Nick Shipley - Reviewer
Nick is a compliance consultant by day, a board gamer at night, and a husband and father always. When he is not bringing a game to the table, he is running (most often to or from his kids) or watching the New York Yankees. Nick lives in Oklahoma.
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Crossing Olympus Preview Reviewed by Nick Shipley on April 03, 2018 Rating: 5
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Soo Line Railroad (Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Ste. Marie)
Despite maintaining a respectable 4,700-mile network linking the Twin Cities with Chicago/Milwaukee the Soo Line was dwarfed by Midwestern giants Chicago & North Western, Milwaukee Road, and Chicago, Burlington & Quincy. Its story carries many similarities to the nearby Minneapolis & St. Louis as both were conceived to improve transportation services for Twin Cities flour millers. Unlike the Tootin' Louie, however, Soo's early promoters had a unique and innovative concept for their railroad which would bypass congested Chicago entirely and connect with Canadian systems through the Sault Ste. Marie gateway. The idea worked although when financial difficulties arose an expanding Canadian Pacific acquired the Soo to increase its American presence.
Known for many years as the Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Ste. Marie Railway it officially became the "Soo Line Railroad" in 1961. In later years it was quite profitable, so much so that Mike Schafer notes in his book, "Classic American Railroads: Volume III," it often paid for new locomotives with cash. In 1990, CP acquired full ownership of the Soo and today it exists only as a paper corporation.
Soo Line F7A #2225-A has the Neenah-Argonne (Wisconsin) mixed train (passenger and freight) at the depot in Argonne during September of 1963. Roger Puta photo.
The Soo Line was created for a singular purpose, to improve the Twin Cities' transportation choices. This region, along the Upper Mississippi River, grew into a booming flour producer thanks to the beautiful Falls of St. Anthony, which offered millers a ready-made source of power. The first U.S. presence here, Fort Snelling, opened in 1825. Milling had been in production since the fort's early years and commerce expanded in September of 1848 when Franklin Steele opened a local sawmill. In 1849 the town of St. Anthony was incorporated on the east side of the river while directly to the west Minneapolis was formed in 1867. The area grew quickly to serve these industries, which meant a railroad was needed. The first was incorporated in 1853 but lack of financing delayed development. By the time the Minneapolis & St. Louis began building out of Minneapolis in 1871 early predecessors of the Milwaukee Road had already linked the Twin Cities with Milwaukee and Chicago (November, 1867). Before long, the Chicago & North Western and Chicago, Burlington & Quincy had also arrived.
Piecing Together The Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Ste. Marie Railway
As Patrick Dorin notes in his book, "The Soo Line," this left millers with a big problem. All railroads reaching the Twin Cities did so via Chicago. As the lone eastern gateway this meant freight rates were controlled by that city. To correct this problem several businessmen came together for the purpose of constructing their own railroad. On September 29, 1883 William D. Washburn (also involved with the Minneapolis & St. Louis), H.T. Wells, John Martin, Thomas Lowry, George Newell, Anthony Kelly, C.M. Loring, Clinton Morrison, J.K. Sidel, W.W. Eastman, W.D. Hale, Charles Alfred Pillsbury (Co-founder of C. A. Pillsbury & Company in 1872, along with his uncle, John Sargent Pillsbury [who helped established the M&StL]. It remains a leading producer of baking products.), and C.J. Martin incorporated the Minneapolis, Sault Ste. Marie & Atlantic Railway (MSStM&A). With local millers owning 75% of the company, its purpose was to entirely bypass Chicago and reach the east coast through southern Canada. From there, flour could access Boston, Massachusetts for trans-Atlantic shipment. The railroad's target was Sault Ste. Marie within Michigan's Upper Peninsula. This town was based along the south bank of the St. Marys River, which allowed for interchange with Canadian lines through Ontario and southern Quebec.
The Soo Line Railroad logo. Author's work.
It enjoy relatively strong financial support which enabled construction to commence quickly; the project began in April of 1884 building westward from Cameron, Wisconsin. The railhead had soon reached nearby Turtle Lake (46 miles) with trackage rights from that point established over the Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis & Omaha Railway ("The Omaha Road") into the Twin Cities. At the same time work progressed to the east, reaching Rhinelander in 1886 and finally Sault Ste. Marie on December 10, 1887. In his book, "History Of The Canadian Pacific Railway" author W. Kaye Lamb points out the CP linked up with the MSStM&A via a branch off its main line at Sudbury to Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario that opened in late 1888. Interestingly, this connection proved as important for the CP as it did the MSStM&A. Canada's first transcontinental railroad was, at the time, in a real battle with the expanding Grand Trunk Railway (GTR), the primary carrier serving the eastern provinces (especially Ontario). There was a great fear that it would reach Sault Ste. Marie first. After considerable sparring between the two, CP was awarded the gateway.
Soo Line GP9 #2407 and a GP30 kick up the snow as they pull their train westbound through Chassell, Michigan during March of 1976. Rob Kitchen photo.
The MSStM&A's next focused on a dedicated Minneapolis/St. Paul corridor. To accomplish this it incorporated the Minneapolis & St. Croix Railway which completed the gap into Minneapolis during January of 1888. Once completed a new 501-mile route was established across the Upper Midwest. In the meantime, agricultural branches were added to the west; chartered in 1884 as the Minneapolis & Pacific Railway it had reached Boynton and Bismarck, Dakota Territory (later North Dakota) by 1887. While all of this was ongoing, the Minneapolis, Sault Ste. Marie & Atlantic ran into financial difficulty. With an uncertain future Canadian Pacific realized its American connection could fall into unfriendly hands, such as the Vanderbilts or James Hill. Unfortunately, the company's options were limited since its own monetary situation precluded it from directly acquiring the moribund MSStM&A. In the end, Donald Smith and George Stephen, two individuals instrumental in CP's development and construction, used their very own money to acquire the properties in April of 1888.
Soo Line F7's and FA-1's at work at an unknown location, circa 1950's. Warren Calloway collection.
Perhaps it seems contrite given their wealth but both risked everything to secure Canadian Pacific's U.S. presence. It should be remembered that railroading was a much different industry in the late 19th century. The largest were controlled by a select few; names like Vanderbilt, Harriman, Gould, and Huntington. They often battled among themselves for territorial control, sometimes even building new railroads simply out of spite (such as New York Central's South Pennsylvania Railroad in its never-ending war with rival Pennsylvania). Following their purchase, Smith and Stephen merged all three (Minneapolis & Pacific, Minneapolis & St. Croix, and Minneapolis, Sault Ste. Marie & Atlantic) on June 11, 1888 to form the new, 737-mile Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Ste. Marie Railway (MStP&SStM). From an early period the company was simply known as the "Soo" or "Soo Line." It was the phonetic spelling of "Sault" in Sault Ste. Marie, a French word meaning waterfall or rapids. On June 3, 1889, the first train bound for St. Paul left Boston, Massachusetts.
Some of the final new units the Soo ever owned were SD60/Ms purchased in the late 1980s. Seen here is SD60 #6053 and #6035 hustling their eastbound freight through Camp Douglas, Wisconsin on August 24, 1991. Doug Kroll photo.
In 1890 Canadian Pacific's financial situation had greatly improved, enabling it to control the Soo by securing the railroad's funded debt. It did the same for the nearby Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic Railway, a struggling ore hauler linking Duluth/Superior with Sault Ste. Marie. With the threat of bankruptcy eliminated, Soo's next development involved opening an additional connection with CP, partly as a protective measure. Throughout the 1880's James Hill had been steadily building his Great Northern Railway and once finished in 1893 eliminated Northern Pacific's monopoly into the Pacific Northwest. Until that time, Hill and CP had mutually carried traffic between the Twin Cities and the latter's west coast port of Vancouver. To keep this business flowing CP financed a MStP&SStM extension to Portal, North Dakota along the Saskatchewan border. The project began in 1891 from Hankinson and was finished in 1893. At the same time, CP completed a short branch from Portal to its main line at nearby Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan. A third gateway was later opened in 1903 to Winnipeg, Manitoba via a new line from Glenwood to the Manitoba border at Noyes, Minnesota.
A pair of Soo Line GP30's, just over a year old, lead their freight past the depot in Stevens Point, Wisconsin during October of 1964. Roger Puta photo.
Following these efforts the Soo constructed several agricultural branches to increase its grain tonnage. Most were situated in North Dakota, serving such small communities as Kenmare (1905), Drake (1906), and even Whitetail, Montana (1913). In northern Minnesota and Wisconsin the Soo also built extensions to bolster its positioning in this increasingly saturated region. First, it established two connections to Duluth, one from Brooten (208 miles) which opened in 1909 and another from Frederic, Wisconsin completed in 1912. Finally, a line from Plummer to Moose Lake was finished in 1910 that acted as a bypass between its Duluth connection and Winnipeg gateway. Aside from new construction the railroad also grew through acquisition, most of which was through small short lines. One noteworthy addition was the 1,000-mile Wisconsin Central Railway (WC). It actually predated the Soo having been incorporated in 1871 for the purpose of linking Menasha, Wisconsin with Superior. To aid in the project Congress provided nearly 2.4 million acres in land grants.
An official, 1969 system map of the Soo Line Railroad. Author's collection.
Soo Line Railroad Timetables (1952)
Ground was broken from West Menasha (now Neenah) on June 15, 1871 and work proceed rapidly; the initial 63 miles to Stevens Point was finished in just 120 days and the first train arrived in the latter town on November 15th. Beyond Stevens Point the railroad reached Colby, Wisconsin the following September. The northern component took a great deal longer due to the area's rugged topography. It began south of Ashland and had reached Penokee Gap (30 miles) by October of 1873. Within a few months rails were extended from Colby to Worcester, completed on January 6, 1874. Further construction was hampered by the financial Panic of 1873 and subsequent economic downturn but was finally opened from Menasha to Ashland on May 19, 1877 (service to Superior was operated in conjunction with the Northern Pacific). While this completed Wisconsin Central's original charter it continued to grow. A handful of subsidiaries incorporated during the 1880's eventually offered through service to the Twin Cities; the Wisconsin & Minnesota Railroad extended from Abbortsford to Chippewa Falls while the St. Croix & Chippewa Falls and St. Paul & St. Croix reached St. Paul on December 28, 1884.
Soo Line F7A #2225-A rests inside an unknown roundhouse during September of 1963. Roger Puta photo.
Meanwhile, the railroad began another extension towards Chicago when the Milwaukee & Lake Winnebago Railroad was incorporated in March of 1882. On December 18th the first section from Neenah to Slinger was opened with through service into Milwaukee provided over the Chicago, Milwaukee & St. Paul (Milwaukee Road). Just four years later, in February of 1886, the WC finished its Windy City route. In 1890 it was leased by Northern Pacific. At the time, this move enabled the nation's first railroad into the Pacific Northwest an unparalleled Chicago - Puget Sound corridor. Had the WC ultimately been incorporated into the NP, competition across the Midwest would have been very different. Only one railroad managed to secure such a route, the Milwaukee Road. Unfortunately, the Panic of 1893 resulted in Northern Pacific's bankruptcy whereupon it lost its WC holdings. Afterwards, the railroad remained an independent for more than a decade and even grew slightly by opening service to Duluth (152 miles) on January 14, 1909. This constituted the bulk of its network, which peaked at 1,148 miles. Realizing the WC's importance the Soo gained direct control on April 1, 1909.
Soo Line F7A #F7A 2224-B, the only unit to receive this scheme, is ahead of a freight at Slinger, Wisconsin during October of 1964. Roger Puta photo.
The Modern Soo Line Railroad
The modern Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Ste. Marie was generally successful despite its reliance on agriculture and located within the highly competitive Upper Midwest. Its most difficult period was the depression era (1930's). At first, it weathered these lean times and even advanced Wisconsin Central $2.2 million in 1932 to prevent its bankruptcy. Unfortunately, as its own situation deteriorated the Soo could no longer afford to do so and the WC slipped into receivership in 1933. This was followed by the MStP&SStM, itself, in 1938. It was reorganized in 1944 as the Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Ste. Marie Railroad while its subsidiary's efforts took much longer. So long, in fact, that Wisconsin Central set a record for the longest railroad reorganization of all time, finally exiting receivership in 1954. The postwar years were prosperous as it laid heavier rail, installed centralized traffic control (CTC), and purchased diesels to meet growing demand. It officially retired steam on February 15, 1955 when 2-8-0 #468 dropped its fire that day.
Soo Line 4-6-2 #728 (H-3, Alco/1910) boards at the railroad's beautiful station in Waukesha, Wisconsin with a southbound passenger train on a summer's evening in the 1950's. The building still stands today as a Canadian National yard office.
Throughout their corporate existence all three of Canadian Pacific's U.S. subsidiaries (Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Ste. Marie; Wisconsin Central; and Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic) had largely operated autonomously. That changed when they were formally merged into the "Soo Line Railroad" on January 1, 1961. During its three decades as an independent, the Soo was quite successful, particularly under the leadership of president Leonard Murray. During his tenure the railroad became a lean operation by upgrading its physical plant and buying new equipment. Mr. Dorin's book points out its philosophy was as follows: "1. A company which believes the service produced must fit the needs of the customer and that most of the effort must be toward filling those needs. 2. A company which believes in producing a profit for providing a service. 3. A company which believes in innovation, but not innovation simply for the sake of changing. The company can point to many firsts, such as the unit grain train, consolidated pulpwood yards and direct Chicago interchange with outbound roads."
Soo Line GP30 #708 loads the "S.S. Chief Wawatam" at the St. Ignace, Michigan docks during June of 1979. This service was provided in conjunction with the Detroit & Mackinac via Mackinaw City. Rob Kitchen photo.
Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Ste. Marie Diesel Locomotive Roster
Date Built
FA-1 205A-211A, 205B-211B 4/1948-8/1949
RS1 350-353 12/1954
RSC2 368-371 6/1949-11/1949
RSC3 372-374 11/1950
Baldwin Locomotive Works
VO-1000 310 10/1945
DS-4-4-1000 311-312 6/1949
S12 313-314 3/1952
DRS-4-4-1500 360-367 11/1947-1/1948
AS16 379-380 8/1951
Electro-Motive Division
F3A 200A-204A, 200B-204B 10/1947-9/1948
F7A 212A-214A, 212B-214B, 500B-503B 3/1951-7/1952
NW2 300-301 9/1939-10/1939
SW1 320 9/1939
SW1200 321-328 12/1954-1/1955
GP7 375-378, 381-383 9/1950-7/1952
GP9 400-414, 550-558 12/1954-5/1956
Fairbanks Morse
H12-44 315-319 7/1952-12/1954
44-Tonner 330 6/1941
U30C 800-809 1968
Soo Line F7A #2225-A and an F3A power a mixed freight past the station in Neenah, Wisconsin during September of 1963. Roger Puta photo.
Wisconsin Central Diesel Locomotive Roster
S2 2103-2107 8/1942-11/1946
S4 2116 5/1952
FA-1 2220A-2223A, 2220B-2223B 6/1949-7/1949
RS1 2360-2368 3/1950-3/1952
RSC3 2380 7/1951
NW1 2100-2102 12/1938
NW2 2108 8/1948
SW9 2111-2115, 2117-2119 11/1952-9/1953
SW1200 2120-2127 1/1955
F3A 2200A/B/C 9/1948
F7A 2201A/B/C-2203A/B/C, 2204C, 2224A-2230A, 2224B-2230B, 2500B-2501B 5/1949-8/1953
SD9 2381 12/1954
GP9 2400-2413, 2550-2556 12/1954-5/1957
FP7 2500A-2501A 12/1954-5/1957
A Soo Line shifter works the East Houghton Yard in Houghton, Michigan on the Upper Peninsula during a very cold day in January of 1977. The railroad operated in some of the harshest winter weather in the lower 48 states. Today, the Soo's yard and route here is all gone. Rob Kitchen photo.
Duluth, South Shore & Atlantic Diesel Locomotive Roster
RS1 100-107 5/1945-1/1951
AS16 204-211 2/1951-3/1953
DT-6-6-2000 300-303 10/1949-8/1950
A pair of Soo Line F7's lead their train over the Milwaukee Road near Grand Avenue in Milwaukee, Wisconsin on August 27, 1966. Roger Puta photo.
Soo Line Railroad Diesel Locomotive Roster
RS27 415-416 4/1963
GP30 700-721 3/1963-6/1963
GP40 732-735 3/1967
SD40 736-756 5/1969-5/1971
SD40-2 757-789, 6600-6623 3/1972-8/1984
GP38-2 790-799, 4410-4452 9/1977-4/1983
SW1200 1200-1205 9/1962-5/1965 (Ex-Minneapolis, Northfield & Southern)
SW1200 1206-1222 1/1954-12/1954 (Ex-Milwaukee Road)
SW1500 1400-1401 11/1966 (Ex-Minneapolis, Northfield & Southern)
MP15AC 1500-1563 12/1975-3/1976 (Ex-Milwaukee Road)
GP20 4300-4335 1/1954-2/1958 (Ex-Milwaukee Road)
GP30CAT 4300-4302 (2nd) 3/1990*
GP38-2 4500-4515 6/1973-9/1974 (Ex-Milwaukee Road)
GP39-2 4598-4599 1978 (Ex-Kennecott Copper)
SD60 6000-6057 7/1987-11/1989
SD60M 6058-6062 11/1989
SD10 6100-6120 4/1952-2/1954 (Ex-Milwaukee Road)
SDL39 6200-6208, 6240-6241 4/1969-11/1972 (Ex-Milwaukee Road)
SD40-2 6300-6388 7/1972-7/1974 (Ex-Milwaukee Road)
SD40 6400-6405 6/1970 (Ex-Kansas City Southern)
SD40A 6406-6410 1/1970 (Ex-Illinois Central)**
SD40 6411 4/1969 (Ex-Baltimore & Ohio)***
SD40-B 6450 10/1971 (Ex-Burlington Northern)
SD45 6491-6492 3/1967-8/1969 (Ex-Burlington Northern)****
* Rebuilt with a Caterpillar prime mover, ex-Union Pacific units.
** Acquired from Helm Leasing.
*** Acquired from Morrison-Knudsen.
**** Built as St. Louis-San Francisco #930 and #910.
U30C 800-809 4/1968-6/1968
The above all-time diesel locomotive roster is thanks to "Soo Line Railroad Company: Locomotive Roster No.2 (Effective 12:01 AM Central Standard Time, Sunday, April 10, 1990)" released through the Soo Line Historical & Technical Society and "The Little Jewel: Soo Line Railroad And The Locomotives That Make It Go" by Wallace B. Abbey.
A new Soo Line SD60M is seen here at the former Milwaukee Road terminal in Bensenville, Illinois on November 26, 1989. Brian Rackley photo.
Steam Locomotive Roster
Wheel Arrangement
A Saddle Tank 0-4-6T
B Through B-4 Switcher 0-6-0/T
C Through C-5 American 4-4-0
D Through D-3 Mogul 2-6-0
E Through E-2 Ten-Wheeler 4-6-0
F-1 Through F-12 Consolidation 2-8-0
G Decapod 2-10-0
H Through H-3 Pacific 4-6-2
J Prairie 2-6-2
K Atlantic 4-4-2
L Through L-4 Mikado 2-8-2
N-20 Mountain 4-8-2
0-20 Northern 4-8-4
Soo Line caboose #24 brings up the end of a freight north of Schiller Park, Illinois on June 24, 1979. Warren Calloway photo.
Notable Passenger Trains
Atlantic Limited: Connected Minneapolis to Boston in conjunction with Canadian Pacific and Boston & Maine.
Copper Country Limited: Connected Chicago to Calumet, Michigan in conjunction with the Milwaukee Road.
Duluth-Superior Limited: (Minneapolis - Duluth)
Laker: (Chicago - Minneapolis/Duluth/Ashland)
Mountaineer: Connected St. Paul to Vancouver, British Columbia in conjunction with Canadian Pacific.
Soo Dominion: Connected St. Paul to Vancouver in conjunction with Canadian Pacific.
Winnipeger: Connected St. Paul to Winnipeg, Manitoba in conjunction with Canadian Pacific.
A classic Soo Line wooden caboose occupies the siding next to the depot in Argonne, Wisconsin during September, 1963. Roger Puta photo.
After the Staggers Act of 1980 greatly deregulated the industry the Soo realized it needed to expand. In doing so it attempted to purchase the defunct Rock Island's "Spine Line" between the Twin Cities and Kansas City. When Chicago & North Western was awarded the corridor it turned its attention to the Milwaukee Road. By this time the one powerful Milwaukee had shrunk to a Midwestern-only, having abandoned its Pacific Extension. Once again, it battled rival C&NW but this time rued the day, acquiring control in 1985. Unfortunately, it came at an extremely high cost between the purchase price and Milwaukee's heavy debt. The Soo also poured millions into overhauling Milwaukee's poorly maintained infrastructure. The railroad's once-sterling financial condition greatly declined. As the Soo's situation ebbed, parent Canadian Pacific lost interest and decided to sell its majority stake in the late 1980s. Then, in a strange move it quickly reversed this decision and acquired full ownership in 1990. Today the Soo is technically still an extant corporation albeit on paper only as it has been entirely integrated into CP's network.

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New Jersey's Child Labor Law and the federal Fair Labor Standards Act, regulate the activities of workers under the age of 18 by limiting their daily and weekly hours, their actual hours of work, and the types of work they can perform. This document explains these restrictions and provides general guidance to employers looking to hire minors.
Under New Jersey's Child Labor Law, N.J.S.A. 34:2-21.1 et seq., at the age of 14, children can begin working in most workplaces like offices, stores, and restaurants (with some common sense exclusions for prisons, mines/quarries, jobs involving chemicals, jobs operating heavy machinery, and those serving alcohol, etc.). At 16, the list of permitted occupations grows to include operating power-driven machinery such as lawn mowers. Once a child reaches the age of 18, they are considered an adult and have the option of doing virtually any job.
Employers have certain obligations and restrictions when employing minors that they don't have with adults. For instance, while New Jersey does not have a mandatory break law for adult workers, it does require that employers provide minors with a 30-minute meal break after five hours of work. Additionally, minors can't work more than three hours a day during school days, and more than 18 hours a week on school weeks. While employers can increase hours during vacations and summers, they are still limited to only employing minors for a maximum of eight hours a day and 40 hours a week. There are also restrictions on how early and late a minor may work (7am – 7pm for 14 and 15 year olds, and 6am – 11pm for 16 and 17 year olds).
Generally, the New Jersey law falls in line with the federal Fair Labor Standards Act, but where there is a conflict, the more restrictive law applies.
At what age is it legal for minors to begin working?
Clerical and office jobs in industrial wholesale, retail, service, and professional establishments.
Delivery jobs other than with a motor vehicle.
Newspaper and magazine delivery over non-residential routes.
Supermarket and food store jobs.
Standard office type machine operators.
Standard domestic type machine operators.
Hospital and health agency jobs.
Counselors at camps, beach attendants, lifeguards, caddies, pinsetters.
Domestic helpers, maids, cooks, cleaners, baby-sitters, janitors.
Singers, models, entertainers, dancers, and theatrical work.
Do more job restrictions get lifted as minors age?
Yes. Once a minor reaches 16 years old, they can do all of the jobs a 14 year old can do plus they can operate certain factory machines, power lawn movers, power tools, tractors, and other machines. That said, until a worker reaches the age of 18, they cannot operate any hazardous machinery, be exposed to hazardous materials, or work in hazardous occupations. For instance, while 16 year old minors can operate factory machines, they cannot operate punch presses or cutting machines. In addition, most construction jobs are still prohibited. Further guidance on the restrictions that still exist for 16 year olds can be found by clicking here.
How does an employer go about hiring a minor?
Before the minor begins working, they must have an employment certificate ("working papers"). The minor gets this by filling out the A300 employment certification form online or from the issuing officer of the local school district where the minor lives. If the minor is not a New Jersey resident, the paper can come from the district where the employer is located.
The employer is responsible for completing the employment information section of the form which includes the name and address of the business, the type of business, the specific job title or duties that will be held by the minor, the minor's hourly rate, whether the business is licensed for liquor, etc. The employer must also sign and date the Promise of Employment.
The minor then must have a physical or obtain a doctor's note. The school district is responsible for performing the physical examination at no cost to the minor, and verifying the minor's age. Both are indicated on the employment certification form, as is parent/guardian permission that the minor can work. Once the form is fully completed, it is reviewed by the school's issuing officer and an employment certificate or "working papers" are issued.
Which notifications or posters are required?
Businesses employing minors are required to conspicuously post a Schedule of Hours that contains the name of the minor, the schedule of hours, clock in and clock out, meal times, total hours worked, and total hours allowed. A sample Schedule of Hours is available by clicking here.
Employers with workers under age 18 are also required to conspicuously post the New Jersey Child Labor Law Abstract, which provides important information such as the maximum number of hours a minor under 18-years old may work and the jobs that they cannot perform. For instance, a minor working in a deli may be able to take orders at the counter, but would not be allowed to operate the meat slicer.
Are employers required to pay minors minimum wage?
Minors must be paid minimum wage ($8.60/hour in 2018) in the vast majority of industries including retail, food service, hotel/motel, beauty, cleaning/laundry, and light manufacturing.
Certain other places are not required to pay minimum wage as they are not covered under federal law. For instance, federal law exempts all amusement park workers from the minimum wage regardless of age. New Jersey exempts minor amusement park workers as well, provided they are not covered by other industries. So, a worker doing clerical work in the front office of an amusement park can be paid less than minimum wage, but must be paid minimum wage if they are moved to a food service function since that type of work is specifically covered under minimum wage laws. Similar rules exist for nursing homes, summer camps, and libraries. In practice, most employers in these industries still elect to pay the minimum wage as a matter of fairness and to simplify bookkeeping.
In addition, employers should be aware that where tips are part of the pay, the sum of cash wages plus tips earned in a week, and meal credits (if meals are provided), divided by the number of hours worked during the same week, must amount to at least the minimum wage.
Do employers have to pay minors overtime?
No. By law minors cannot work more than 40 hours in a week, 8 hours a day, (even during vacations or summer months) and overtime is paid once a worker exceeds 40 hours.
Are there any restrictions on the actual times a minor can work?
Yes. There are restrictions on how early and late a minor may work. These are 7 am – 7 pm for 14 and 15 year olds, and 6 am – 11 pm for 16 and 17 year old). (Employers should be aware that they may have to furnish a note for minors with graduated driver's licenses who are driving after 11 pm to return home after their shift ends.
Do minors need rest breaks?
Yes. While New Jersey does not have a mandatory break law for adult workers, it does require that employers provide minors with a 30-minute meal break after five hours of work.
Under New Jersey State Law, employers who violate child labor laws may be charged as much as $250 for the first violation and $500 for subsequent violations. An employer may also be fined up to $10,000 for every violation that is proven in a federal court.
My 17yr old son worked at a bar dishwashing/delivery. The 1st night he worked the mngr kept him to 1:00 am. He started at 5pm. I talked to owner next day and told them that can't happen. From what I'm reading he shouldn't even been hired because of age. Then they kept him to late, obviously.
Thank you for reading our publication. We are a private trade association which attempts to provide our member companies with the information they need to fully comply with applicable laws and regulations. Since we are not a government agency that has enforcement powers, we really can't comment on your specific situation. You may want to speak with your son's school or the New Jersey Department of Labor to determine how the law would apply.
My child was hired to work at a local ice cream stand. This is her second job. She is 15. She worked her first job for 5 hours at a fitness center. She arrived for the first day at the ice cream stand after working the five hours at the fitness center and was told that she would be working until 10:15pm. There was no break during the seven hours of her shift. Her supervisor was aware that she had already worked 5 hours that day. This seems excessive and not according to the law.
My 17 year old nephew is scheduled to work until 9:45pm punching out at 10:50pm but the manager keeps him in store (Marshalls) till 11pm!
Thank you for reading our publication. We are a private trade association which attempts to provide our member companies with the information they need to fully comply with applicable laws and regulations. Since we are not a government agency that has enforcement powers, we really can't comment on your specific situation. You may want to speak with your nephew's school or the New Jersey Department of Labor to determine how the law would apply.
Would a 17-year-old high school graduate need working papers for a summer job?
My 22 month old will be working on an independant film. They are not paying her fie her work and want her on set for 8 hours! Is this legal??
Thank you for reading our publication. We are a private trade association which attempts to provide our member companies with the information they need to fully comply with applicable laws and regulations. Since we are not a government agency that has enforcement powers, we really can't comment on your specific situation. You may want to speak with someone at the New Jersey Department of State in the Motion Picture & Television Commission.
I have emancipated my 17 yr old son can he work full time?
Is Friday considered a school day or weekend?
I own a liquor store and want to check if my 15 year old son can help me with stocking and clerical work. He ofcourse will not be serving ir selling alcohol and will be working with adults all the time. Do i need working papers for him as he will be working in a family business?


Master the world of financial management with Microsoft Dynamics NAV 2016About This Book* This book fully prepares you to successfully use Dynamics NAV as your key tool for financial management.* Learn how to use reporting tools that will help you to make the right decisions at the right time* Explore the features inside the sales and purchases areas as well as functionalities including payments, budgets, cash flow, fixed assets, and business intelligenceWho This Book Is ForThis book will appeal to financers and accountants who are using Dynamics NAV as their ERP and financial management system. Dynamics NAV consultants and project managers will also find it useful for their daily workWhat you will learn* Handle complete business processes for purchase and sales in Dynamics NAV.* Use the banking features and the reconciliation process to gain greater insights into a company's financial status.* Report data in a way that is meaningful to the company for analysis.* Set up dimensions, and link them with master tables and journals.* Work with multi currency and intercompany postings, and receive and send documents electronically.* Manage complete Fixed Asset by Setup, transactions, budgets, and Fixed Asset ReportingIn DetailMicrosoft Dynamics NAV is a global Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) solution that provides small and mid-size businesses with greater control over their financials and can simplify their supply chain, manufacturing, and operations.Microsoft Dynamics NAV Financial Management explains all you need to know to successfully handle your daily financial management tasks. With this update, you will learn about all the improvements in the latest release and how to apply them in your workplace.You will learn about functionalities such as sales and purchase processes; payments; bank account management; reporting taxes; budgets; cash flow; fixed assets; cost accounting; inventory valuation; and business intelligence. This book comprehensively walks you through all the financial management features inside the latest version of Dynamics NAV and follows a logical schema. By the end of this book, you will have learned about budgets, cash flow management, currencies, intercompany postings, and accounting implications on areas such as jobs, services, warehousing, and manufacturing.
Master the world of financial management with Microsoft Dynamics NAV 2016 About This Book Familiarize yourself with Dynamics NAV and get up to date with the latest release – this is an invaluable tool for financial management Learn how to use reporting tools that will help you to make the right decisions at the right time Explore features inside the sale and purchase areas as well as functionalities including payments, budgets, cash flow, fixed assets, and business intelligence Who This Book Is For This book will appeal to financers and accountants who are using Dynamics NAV as their ERP and financial management system. Dynamics NAV consultants and project managers will find it useful for their daily work. What You Will Learn Handle complete business processes for purchases and sales in Dynamics NAV. Use the banking features and the reconciliation process to gain greater insights into a company's financial status. Report data in a meaningful way that provides the company with insightful analysis. Set up dimensions and link them with master tables and journals. Work with multi-currency and intercompany postings. Receive and send documents electronically. Manage complete Fixed Asset by Setup, transactions, budgets, and Fixed Asset Reporting. In Detail Microsoft Dynamics NAV is a global Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) solution that provides small and mid-size businesses with greater control over their finances and a way to simplify their supply chain, manufacturing, and operations. Microsoft Dynamics NAV Financial Management explains all you need to know in order to successfully handle your daily financial management tasks. This book walks you through all the improvements in the latest release and shows you how to apply them in your workplace. You will learn about functionalities including sales and purchase processes, payments, bank account management, reporting taxes, budgets, cash flow, fixed assets, cost accounting, inventory valuation, workflows, sending and receiving electronic documents, and business intelligence. This book comprehensively covers all the financial management features inside the latest version of Dynamics NAV and follows a logical schema. By the time you're finished this book you will have learned about budgets, cash flow management, currencies, intercompany postings, and accounting implications in areas such as jobs, services, warehousing, and manufacturing. Style and approach This book is an in-depth, practical tutorial demonstrating both the basic and more advanced concepts of financial management in Dynamics NAV.
In diesem Schulungshandbuch zu Microsoft Dynamics NAV 2018 RapidStart wird systematisch erklärt, wie mit Hilfe dieses Programms Daten exportiert oder importiert werden können. Zunächst zeige ich am Beispiel eines Paketimports die generelle Funktionsweise und welche Punkte dabei zu beobachten sind. Im Anschluss geht es darum, Schritt für Schritt eigene Pakete im RapidStart Services zu erstellen, damit Daten nach MS Excel zu exportieren, zu bearbeiten und die veränderten Daten wieder einzulesen. Dieses Schulungshandbuch richtet sich in erster Linie an Neueinsteiger die zum ersten mal mit RapidStart Services arbeiten. Die Grundfunktionnalität des Programms mit einfachen Beispielen exemplarisch erklärt.


Anyone with a slight interest in Italian tailoring will know and admire Orazio Luciano. With a brand identity that optimises sartorial tailoring they are a favourite for most. In Orazio Luciano's workshop the cutters turn gorgeous fabrics into bespoke pieces, made to measure and ready to wear collections. Attention to detail, perfection of cut and typical soft Neapolitan construction are the true heritage of the company.
We were lucky enough to recently sit down with Pino Luciano (son of master-tailor Orazio Luciano), the man at the helm of the family brand to ask him a few quick-fire questions.
Taking my daughters to school, I really treasure this moment because I won't see them until dinner time.
I don't recognise to own any specific talent, but I'm a very persistent person and I guess that's what counts the most at any level of business.
Where do you call home? And what do you love about it?
I love the Netherlands, definitely if I didn't have my business in Naples I would have loved to live in Amsterdam. I like the energy, the freedom and the forward-thinking culture, so I can't say I feel at home but I have a sort of attachment and sense of belonging to the city.
What is your favourite style this season?
We don't really follow what's in each season, from time to time we like to revive vintage pieces and devise them with special fabrics. This year we will develop a brown wide pinstripe seersucker made with a small Japanese mill.
What should every man have in his closet, and why?
Definitely a well refined custom made navy blazer, It is an underrated product. But I rarely notice impeccable navy blazers and I guess this is the very basic foundation of a gentlemen wardrobe.
Early Julian Schnabel was really innovative, with time and succes artists lose themself a little bit, but he is a complete creative. I've loved him also as a movie director.


Hogan (nee Gannon), Kathleen (Kay), (Kilbarrack), died 4TH June 2017, peacefully at home surrounded by her loving family, beloved wife of David (Ray), very sadly missed by her husband, daughters Jean, Cathy, Linda and Susan, sons David (Ray), Jim, Declan, and Stephen, sons-in-law Jack and Eric, daughters-in-law Michelle, Maggie and Paula, grandchildren, great grandchild, sister Liz, brothers Jimmy, Georgie, Joe and Willie, nieces, nephews, relatives and friends, Rest in Peace.
Reposing at her home on Tuesday 6th June from 4-8pm.
Removal to St. John the Evangelist Church, Kilbarrack on Wednesday morning, 7th June for 11am Funeral Mass, followed by burial in Fingal Cemetery.
Very sorry to learn of Mrs Hogan's. She was a great neighbour for many many years. A typical Dublin mother who would do anything for her children.
I'd like to pass my sincere condolences to her family at this sad times.


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Kosovo: Can You Imagine?
From the author: Kosovo: Can You Imagine? is a documentary film by Canadian filmmaker Boris Malagurski, about the Serbs that live in Kosovo and the lack of human rights that they have today, in the 21st century.
Most of the Kosovo Serbs have been ethnically cleansed by the Albanians who make up the majority of Kosovo. Kosovo has been under UN administration since 1999 when NATO bombed Serbia for 78 days to halt a crackdown on ethnic Albanian separatism in its province of Kosovo. In the years following the war, thousands of Serbs were expelled from their homes, kidnapped and killed. Their houses, cultural and religious sites were burned and destroyed.
Kosovo for the Serbs is what Jerusalem is for the Jewish people. It is the cradle of their statehood, culture and religion. Most of the important Serbian Christian Orthodox monasteries are in Kosovo. Today, Serbs still have a deep spiritual and traditional connection to Kosovo, a land which is being cleansed of everything Serbian.
Most of the Kosovo Serbs are internally displaced, some of them live in small container camps, in ghettos, all this in the heart of Europe in the 21st century. We follow the stories of several Serbs who have fell victim to a nationalist and irredentist ideology that has a goal of creating a pure Albanian state of Kosova (Kosovo in Albanian). Serbs in Kosovo have no basic human rights. You will be shocked to learn which atrocities they have to face each day.
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Karolos - June 15, 2021 at 10:47 pm
Albanians have nothing to do with yllirians were killed as history says I don't know about Kosovo I know about Albanians and they think they have history thing like acropolis was build by them as they say and kolokotronis was also Albanian hilarious yllirians had some dignity the next thing Albanians call is the book of the mongols which doesn't exist ,as their history but let's not talk about propaganda guys since you are leaders in this
Venera Loshaj - January 16, 2021 at 3:28 am
This film is all paid Serb propaganda.
Hov Myrtaj - May 19, 2020 at 7:34 pm
This is a big lie. Illyrians or not , Kosovo is Albanian. If you all get your DNA checked you might be surprised to learn of the many different origins we all have. All Invaders left some of their DNA… Serbians killed burned raped for many years …why are they crying now? Did mother Russia back off because of the USA?
Hayal Kika - May 19, 2020 at 7:34 pm
it says video is private where can I watch it as a Kosovian i really wanna watch it
Smith Tirona - May 19, 2020 at 7:32 pm
How it is possible that Kosovo being the the Jerusalem for the Serbs had only a minority of serbs living there ??? and those only in north while the rest of Kosovo was 100% populated by only albanians ….that d mean that serbians do not praise much ttheir culture but their dogma. Those sites they built the orthodox churches were first pagan sites and later catholic and now owned by the serbian orthodox church.
Dita - November 16, 2017 at 10:49 am
Funny documentary, all propaganda. Bad to see that people still trying to put Serbia on the victim sight. Doesn't meter, Kosovo is independent country, multicast country. You should go and visit it to understand the truth.
Petrit Elshani - August 28, 2016 at 7:47 pm
This documentary is full of bias, political propaganda and, simply put, lies. I would strongly recommend the operators of this platform to check the contents and to get the facts straight of the documentaries they feature. I visited it fully intent on watching a good documentary, after this, I believe I've seen enough. And I wouldn't be surprised if other people feel the same way.
Just the textual intro to the documentary itself makes a mockery of the thousands of Albanian families that were massacred during the Kosovo war. There's a reason the international community decided to intervene in the summer of 99, this documentary and the fact that it is being shared here questions the very principles underlying that intervention.
And the fact that the maker of this documentary, Mr Boris Malagurski, is of Serbian descent and a political propagandist and populist does not surprise me one bit.
Check your sources and contents, documentaryheaven!
lx - January 27, 2017 at 12:31 am
Did you ever visit Serbia or Kosovo, who gave you the right to give your own critics to this movie? Who are you to judge here? What do you know about the reasons why Serbia was bombed in 1999? Who told you that if NATO decided to bomb some country, that must be right? Did you ever hear that bombing was against UN regulations? Who gave you the right to speak about this? Maybe I am Serbian, but I'm trying to be as much objective as I am, and if I don't really know anything about something, i will keep my mouth shut. What would you tell about Syria? NATO and Russia are doing great jobs there? It is just right, because they decided to do that? Who are THEY to judge? Please reply to me, regards
apparently u live with a mediaval mentality where one has the right to and another not. Same logic that brought war to Serbia. It is his right pure and sacrum aas it is yours to reply. you dont know mcuh and better keep it shut your mouth coz those older then you have seen the horrors that para militia did to civilians.
Ognjen Jovanovic - February 11, 2017 at 12:33 am
Nice job, u shut him up. And are you really from Serbia? 'cause i am and i now FOR REAL how Serbs in the kosovo are threated.. Sory for bad english im only 14.
Sorry for late reply!
someone - August 3, 2015 at 7:54 pm
Its hilarious how Albanians think that they are of ilyrian descent (Which is one of the reasons they claim that Kosovo is theirs, their "ancestors" were there), but all genetic studies prove that there is only a small amount of their people of actual Ilyrian descent. Actually people in Bosnia and Hercegovina have more Ilyrian genes than they do. https://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/DNA.RootsiHaplogroupISpread.pdf
look at the genes results and the highes concentration is in Dardania
maria - April 10, 2015 at 1:35 pm
kosovo is serbia , like it or not
Servia you said?
Fatos - December 3, 2014 at 12:42 pm
and another thing i keep seeing serbs writing on the web is that albanians big brother(US) saved them, and that we are dogs of the US. hahahahah thats so fucking funny,,, WHAT are Russians to you then !!!!
this documentary is shit, is all a big lie. Albanians were in the balkans a long time before the slavic people invaded, thats a fact ! kosovo was given to the serbs as a gift by the european powers for fighting the turks. but somebody forgot to tell them(france, germany, england) that you cannot give someone something that isn't yours !!! stupid !!!
John Weasly - November 8, 2014 at 2:39 am
Yeah, Serbs massacred thousands of albanians, bosnians, croats, for more than 100 years, ever since WW1. More than 280.000 albanians were murdered in WW1, more than 25000 in WW2 and 15000 in the 90's. Kosova is actually Dardania, an ancient illyrian tribe (albanian) which existed for thousands of years before Carpath slavs from Russia came down and occupied. This documentary is shit.
TingoL - March 22, 2015 at 4:28 pm
The fuck you talking about you moron, have you no knowledge of the world war whatsoever? Albania and Serbia were on the same side in WW1 and in fact the serbian army retreated through albania to greece after failing to defend against the austrians losing a huge number of soldiers. Serbia also lost 1.1 million people (25% of entire population) the most out of all alied countries. Although I don't deny that Milosevic was a fucking idiot and albanians suffered because of him, don't fucking disrespect our sacrifices and army efforts in WW1 just because it suits your point.
Milosevic was a psycho that unleashed war dogs to civilians and caused a great havoc that d last for long time. What he is saying there that serbians comited many crimes against albanians in the first balkanic war. one thing is to invade a country another is to masacre civilians.
Truth is slow but sure - August 10, 2014 at 9:00 pm
Cmon. How you can lie?? This is one of the best documentary ever. It's telling the truth about Serbian population in Kosovo. Albanians came to Serbian holly land. Big brother from US support albanians only and only because of mines there and NATO base, he don't give a shit for shiptars!!! Once when Kosovo stop be interesting for BB it will be Serbian again. Don't be so stupid.
Baconator - October 17, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Reading the comments makes me sad to see so many people who are misinformed yet think they know what they are talking about and keep talking. Serbs this, serbs that, but noone ever digs into the history to find out why things are the way they are. Research people, and dont accept everything that is fed to you by western media. Ive spend yearsin Kosovo and the Balkans as a blue helmet and have to say the west is grossely biased against the Serbs and that is irrefutable fact. How many times have we busted up human trafficing, drug trafficing and weapon trafficing rings all perpetrated by KLA soldiers is too many to count. There is a reason why Europe does not like Kosovo Albanians and I have seen first hand why.
you comparing traficking with mass graves? or maybe you ar eone of those that went there for fun.
Attention All Idiots - October 8, 2013 at 2:18 am
Anybody that thinks Kosovo is part of Albania or belongs to their people is either blind def or dumb or a combination of all three. Fact: Kosovo was part of the former Yugoslavia and the Serbs were nice enough to let Albanians in! Albanians were allowed speaking their own language, having their own schools and newspapers, radio and television broadcasts and so on and so forth. Fact: Kosovo is now an American state, and America did this purposely for many reasons, to long to explain here. Fact: America needed somebody to blame so that they could strategically and systematically help destroy one of the worlds most prosperous nations(the former Yugoslavia), they also knew they would attack Serbia way before they "warned" Milosevic and his government to pull out…it would have happened either way. Fact: The Albanians had NO right to turn around and say "Hey we want Kosovo to be ours", that's just not the way the world works, Quebec has wanted independence for a long time, do you think the Canadian government would let that happen? Fact: Nobody WINS wars, we ALL lose as human beings, it's not about who did what first, the violence needs to stop! So please stop being ignorant and saying the serbs deserved this, did the innocent people of Iraq deserve to die because of Saddam Hussein and 9/11(which they had nothing to do with), did the innocent people in Afghanistan deserve to die? or the people in Syria? If you honestly believe that, then do us all a favor and kill yourselves, for you are what is dragging humanity down.
Fact is that ppl like shall go back to the ural caves they belong, there you could play nice with your kind.
Jaca - October 11, 2014 at 4:33 pm
Kosovo was part of Yugoslavia, but Serbs were nice enough to let Albanians in!!!!!
Just from this one sentence everyone can see that whoever wrote this thinks that Yugoslavia was Serbia and that Serbs were ones that decided who can live in Yugoslavia who can't. This alone shows intelligence of the person writhing comment above
Muneer Alam - October 7, 2013 at 9:50 am
oh my god … this is worst propaganda ever … the culprit is playing the victim … the serbs committed the most inhuman crimes against muslims in that region killing 200000 of them ..even little girls were raped and killed to make a orthodox christian Serbia .. ethnic cleansing of muslims was carried out by serbs and not the other way round … even the POPE apologized for the crimes committed by Serbs against humanity … its shocking how far people can go with their lies
Faust - February 16, 2014 at 1:45 am
@Muneer Alam Looks like you don't know a thing about Serbia or what happened there… First, Serbs didnt killed 200000 Albanians and tried to make ortodox Serbia, as Serbia is ortodox for centuries. I'm atheist, but just a fact for you, muslim religion came 500 years after christianity… Second, Pope couldn't apologies in the name of people that are ortodox…. Read, educate and than make comments….
truth - April 6, 2013 at 4:02 pm
waiting for wikileaks to show how the US planned to get their bases in kosovo for some dollar bills
Arta - February 28, 2013 at 1:52 am
Bull shit. Lack of real informations .
Andrew - February 13, 2013 at 7:23 pm
This is the worst documentary I've ever seen! NATO stepped in to stop the genocide and the eviction of more than 1 million Ethnic Albanians from their homes and country. How thick do the producers of this program think the public are? How is this even under the history genre??
Chelsea - November 2, 2012 at 4:10 am
This is ridiculous. Worst propaganda documentary ever made, simply twisted. The serbs have commited the worst massacre in europe after Adolf Hitler, and now they want peope to believe they are the victims? Hilariuos
Jojo - March 5, 2016 at 10:43 pm
Atrocities were committed across the three sides.Serbs were not by any means the only bad guys.In fact, before Srebrenica, Serb villages were plundered and many Serbs were brutalised and murdered.
would said that second were brits in ireland, if we speak about europe. not to mention what happened in india…
jstuxx - September 17, 2012 at 7:18 pm
The question is how do we know now that the Albanians weren't doing this before the alleged ethnic cleansing, and that the ethnic cleansing wasn't a response to this? We don't.
canadian soldier - August 28, 2012 at 8:52 am
thats the worst non-sense documentary! the albanians never had an army! the slobodan Milloshevic made a real cleansing in Kosovo in 1999,how can Serbs claim a province when they are less than 5 % in kosovo.??? i have lived in that region and i know what happend. I am sure that this documentary doesnt present the truth,the albanians have always been majority there in kosovo,and this region is been under Serbia gor 100 years,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dostinika
link above show that first serbian capital was dostinika that was located in todays metohija (part of kosovo) in the early 7th century… funny how yours serbian 100 years at kosovo just became more almost 1400 years… funny fact, long time before canada even existed…
Your comment contradicts itself, how can Miloshevic make a real ethnic cleansing if when Albanians are a majority and Serbs are less than 5%, doesn't sound like ethnic cleansing to me.
Doc - July 22, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Every documentary about Balkan countries and history is spoiled with so many rude comments, makes me wonder what kind of people live there in the 21st century… Shame on you, all!
Dido M SInani - July 21, 2012 at 10:51 am
eire32 - June 27, 2012 at 2:40 am
the serbs are getting what they deserve
Highlander - June 17, 2012 at 11:03 pm
Serbs moved in the Balkan during the 13 century, since then they never stopped expanding. In Kosovo still today the authorities are finding massive graves of Albanians executed. Never was found a mass grave with Serbian bodies remains.
wrong… Serbs first came to the Balkans in the 5-7th centuries A.D. simple google.com would do it
CANADA - June 13, 2012 at 12:13 am
Long live United Kingdom ans Canada,We will always live in peace
Yes because you cause wars everywhere else.
aleksismil - June 2, 2012 at 2:31 am
Even though I think the documentary is biased I have to say that the comments are shameful!
Bhere - May 23, 2012 at 12:02 am
as the world around you advances you choose to feed on the atrocities of the past and then feed that into your future generations. why?
why should a child born today must pay in blood for something they have no part in?
educate yourself as a people
and be thirsty for wisdom before blood
ozzy - May 11, 2012 at 12:26 pm
A documentary is a film or TV program presenting the facts about a person or event i don't see any fact in this film, only hear garbage. it's not a documentary it's rubbish.
Akil - April 12, 2012 at 10:58 pm
How can you say that Republic of KOSOVA with 95% Albanians in serbia and it is serbian country. Do you remember how many children are without their families, do you remember that you serbs killed 15000 Albanians. How can you say that you can not walk free in KOSOVA, when you already spoke in this video serbian in the center of Prishtina, and you were traveling around of KOSOVA and nobody killed you mother fucker.
You son of a bitches you have to learn for a living earth that KOSOVA will never be yours. YOU CAN NOT FILL people minds with these films. Because the world know who are you, they know what you have done, and what are you doing now, world knows how many people, how many children, how many eldery man and women people you HAVE KILLED.
god will disappear you from this land for what you have did.
Body - March 7, 2012 at 8:02 pm
The filmmaker is a Serb
Gunnigleapur - February 14, 2012 at 8:36 pm
It is save to say that this documentary is a little bit biased!
Arbnori45 - February 5, 2012 at 6:49 pm
What the Fuckest Documentary … All of this things that show this mutherfucker are lies … and serbs in Kosovo have rights more than Albanians ..
Pierre - January 31, 2012 at 3:31 am
Reply to to the docu: – Yes, I can imagine that elsewhere: Palestine.
Look at how the Jews where treated in the concentration camps and how they now treat their own genetic half blood. As bad as any NAZI. That's all they've learned!
Althogh, the religious racism is reversed,
It's the other way around.
And throgh humankind history, there are a few thousands of similar cases.
In the end, it's a fact that the albenians have a gang of criminal thugs as leaders.
Internationally known reputations of criminals.
It dangerous to make business with peoples who were born and raised up with such lacks within tbeir education.
Turn down importations from there.
Bare in mind that anyone anywhere abroad Albanai who'd hire an Albanian is in for racism above all.
ThisDIk - December 26, 2011 at 1:03 am
well look at this pic, this is how inhuman serbs are, i Hope one day we nuke you fucking filthy in human pig fucking orothodox holdy dick sucking primates? How can you shoot at innocent civilians like that. Well you know karma is a bitch right, well what goes around will come around just you wait.
Neutral Ned - December 4, 2011 at 4:15 am
The sad thing about this terrible documentary and the situation in Kosovo is that both sides are as bad as each other but you are too blinded by your ideology and the education you have been brought up with to see it. How can you seek to improve your lives and the country in which you live if all you seek to do is kill each other and to apportion blame on anyone else but yourselves.
USA_IS_YOUR_DADDY - December 2, 2011 at 6:25 am
Kosovo Will Never Be Serbia !!! Fact…… Live with it !!!
On the other hand this so called film maker is nothing but a Serbian who has no idea. And only speak what his history teach him, on the other hand Serbians history teaches them, that they never lost the battle of kosovo. You lost it than you will loose it again :))))))))
You are ghetto bound live with it …!!!! :)))
PatriotUSA - December 3, 2011 at 12:06 am
General Lewis MacKenzie, now retired, commanded UN troops during the Bosnian
civil war of 1992 said : In Kosovo "We bombed the wrong side"
Kosova is Serbia. Greetings from US of America: Patriot Daddy 😉
MarkoKraljevic - December 2, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Facts about Kosovo battle. Legendary Milos Kobiliqi was Albanian hero who killed Sultan Murat in his noble suicide mission. He was under command of Serbian Emperor Lazarus. Serbian army was outnumbered on 8 to 1 in comparation with Otoman Turkish army. Still battle of Kosovo was won. As a consequence losses on Serbian (+ Christian) side were devastating. Turkish army was defeated. It took them 80 years to re-organise and continue advances towards the west. Albanians were Orthodox Christians then and even now Albanian flag have Serbian (Byzantine) two headed Eagle. In Albania today there is Albanian Orthodox Christian Church. Skenderbeg was Christian too, fighting Turkish army. All in all, it is you lacking knowledge about your own country and history. It is uneducated people like you who were keen to destroy 150 Christian monasteries in Kosovo, using dynamite. There were recognised as the World Heritage by United Nations. Some of them were built in 4th and 5th Century by Serbian Emperors Constantine I and Justinian I Maximanus etc..
Apart from history, killing Serbian children and innocent civilians, selling body parts to Swiss private clinics.. what to say, this is who are Kosovo Albanians of today.
I do not hate you, but the curse of innocent blood is now on all of you.
Trust me, it is coming for you soon 🙂 so help me God !
fuckgreece - November 26, 2011 at 12:08 am
During the Kosov War in in 1998 I was too young to go fight I was only 5 years old but my Uncle and older brothers went and fought from Albanian. When they came back and I got a little older they would tell me stories about fighting with the serbs. They would capture serbian soldiers and butcher them alive. Disassemble their body parts with axes and watch them die suffering. Burn them alive, starve them, they would starve them to a point where they would start feeding them the flesh of other serbs. heee Once my favorite they caught a serbian commander alive. They striped him naked and tied him behind a tree then with a blade they opened his belly up and fed his insides to the dogs they would hunt serbs with german shepherds. They didnt kill him but forced him and the rest of his soldiers to watch as the dogs ate him alive. They taught me one thing a serb is parasite a cancer who needs to pay in blood and body flesh for the things done against the Albanians and death is too easy for the serb he must suffer!
Makarius Constantinos - November 30, 2011 at 2:00 am
You are stating on record that Albanian citizens participated as paramilitary formations on territory of Serbia in the Kosovo conflict. I am sure they did. This is exactly the illegal point of Kosovo War. Foreign Albanian paramilitary formations did complete genocide on all non-albanian population, militarily supported by NATO = CIA. This includes merciless killings of children and all other non armed citizens of Kosovo. This include Serbs, Roma, Gorjani, Macedonians, Greek, Bulgarian and Jew ethnic minorities.
This link will show you Albanian paramilitary formations, being armed and sent of to Serbia (Yugoslavia) to create bloodshed and genocide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&v=o66g1k_FwtU&NR=1&gl=US
One more thing for now: Fuck you too – from Greece
Putin - December 2, 2011 at 11:34 pm
сейчас мы слабы, но придёт время мы станем сильными и все не други будут
наказаны.
fuckgreece - November 25, 2011 at 11:40 pm
so who wants to buy Serbian organs? At the moment we are currently
supplying some countries in Europe Middle east and we are looking to
expand our operations. At the Moment we only supply Serbian organs and body accesories but in the future we hope to expand our inventory by selling Gayreek as well as Slavo-Bulagar macedonian organs and body parts. ATTENTION Serbians who are looking to buy back heir family members or relatives organs and body parts Get SPECIAL PRICES! 50% off. Everybody else Normal prices. Anybody interesting in purchasing serbian organs please contact me SERBIANS MAKE EXCELLENT SPECIMENS FOR HARVESTING ORGANS. Our Ultimate goal in the near future is to harvest and sell the organs and body parts of every single living subhuman serb when we are finished with the serbs we are moving on to the Gayreeks!
How do you hope to expand your territory when Greece, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Serbia are all against you, all your neighours. You think they will sit there and do nothing, thanks for justifying Milosevic, and I feel very proud of being a Slav because Serbs and Slavs and they killed a lot of scum like you, I hope they carry and commit a full genocide, to completely wipe of all scum like you. You know what Albanians really are ancient people, ancient hominids who have not had the opportunity to evolve, enjoy being the poorest in Europe, enjoy starving, and enjoy your dependence on Bulgarian electricity, Bulgaria generates electricity for the whole Balkans, maybe its time they cut it off.
JOKI4580 - January 31, 2012 at 5:29 am
i think everyone sees who you are as people from these moronic comments alone. in fact i'm sure most who visit this website are probably asking why we didn't end your existence like we should have . instead of educating you, and working like slaves ALL of us Bosnians, Croats, Serbs, Slovenes, Montenegrins, just to pay equalization payments to feed you lazy illiterate fucks that came streaming across albanian border.
fucking scum of the earth. there isn't a nation on the planet that can stand you.
NAND Gate - November 23, 2011 at 12:21 am
These comments go toshow why NATO stepped in – you ethnic zealots are just crazy children with guns.
Matej Armus - November 19, 2011 at 10:09 am
You are all ignorant and stupid.We (Serbians) are the victims of american propaganda.We had wars, yes we had!Srebrenica was directed by American people to look like genocide.No one told you that before that muslims killed an entire serbian village!That was payback, but the muslims killed each other so they can put on serbian killing account.Dont forget operation Oluja (Storm) where 2650 Serbs were killed and over 300.000 got evicted from Croatia.Our army was not there, and that was ethnic cleansing.What about Jasenovac in Croatia in WW2?Ove 400.000 Serbs killed.You didn't know all this, did you?!Kosovo is Serbian land.We fought wars down there, when your countris didnt't even existed.America is in collaboration with Albanians down there, because they have interests in stragetic point.There is a big american base there, you know.Of course you will believe in their false propaganda.That is only side you get on your TV.Kosovo is Serbian land, but it is lost because of treacherous pact of Americans and Albanians, and to Albanians we gave free houses and apartments 30 years ago because they were sleeping in the streets.Guess that was a mistake then.
susuri - December 22, 2012 at 10:39 am
More Propaganda I see…
Ray - November 18, 2011 at 2:51 am
To me, this video should be under the category 'Comedy'.
James - December 1, 2011 at 5:16 am
Ray, think now for sec, if your parents has been abducted from your family home and cut alive for body parts, I am sure you would not find anything "comedian" there. On the other side it is notable that Albanians are educated from very young age that is all right to kill in order to support jihaad. That is even visible on this page, according to comments.
SerBro - November 15, 2011 at 3:14 am
I feel you, bro! ( 'people' is plural! 😉 I'm sure u know that. Understandable mistake if you write fast.greetings from serbia
Croat - November 15, 2011 at 3:04 am
You're all bunch of idiots.Let's live in peace for once in this century,btw learn some english U uneducated sick fucks
or just do as Christ or Mohammed did if you have faith that constantly preach.
Unbelievable.In all five nations there are still too many primitive peoples.
SerbRules - December 1, 2011 at 5:44 am
What five nations?
There is Serbian race consisting of many nations .
You should know this by now.
56 Serbian Emperors in line before Nemanjic.
Serbian culture and Serbian language is dating 20 000 years BC, according to Vinca archeological findings.
Further check this link and come back to Daddy :)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixkd9phZX4ghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EUfMDEUTAo&feature=related
That is another one, enjoy..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EUfMDEUTAo
Serb - November 16, 2011 at 10:42 pm
totally agree, brother
Leon - November 12, 2011 at 6:31 am
I wish this documentary was true even though I did not like it at all cos its one sided. The Serbs deserve what they get after what they did to Slovenians, Croats, Bosnians, and Albanians.(but, I still feel sorry for the innocent Serbs even though they are in a very, very small number who did not commit crimes during the war)…
The Serbs are the ones who destroyed Yugoslavia if im not wrong, cos they wanted everything to be Serb, well it does not work that way. The Serbs wanted 'bratsko jedinstvo" It seems to me that you Serbs forgot the song that you used to sing during 1990 (ko to kaze ko to laze da serbija je mala?). Let me tell how this song ends now " ja to kazem i ne lazem jel nece nikad biti".
So get your facts straight and stop playing the victim cos the whole world knows what you did from 1991-1999. Apparently you got your asses burned from 19 countries (NATO) and I would like to say god bless Nato. Here is another suggestion for you Serbs: did you ever wonder how many serbs (starting from your Slobo, Karadzic, Seselj etc etc ) are still in Courts? How many Slovenians , Bosnian's, Croats and Albanians are in Court? Believe me, its 20 to 1 in your favor. So please stop bullshiting around the internet like pussy's… wake up and smell the humus. You have to understand that even the Serbs from Serbia don't want you in Serbia that's why you are still stuck in KOSOVO, and you know that because after the war in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo you went there (Serbia) as refugees and they(the Serbs) throw rocks at you and called you Gipsys, you were not even given food or shelter what more do you want from your brothers in Serbia? all that is left for me to say to the Serbs is; Im glad Im not a Serb cos even God hates the Serbs…Prijatno…i laku noc.
Iwittneseditall - November 11, 2011 at 4:13 pm
How about 98% of Albanians that lived under Serbian regime for decades? How do you justify their suffering? Hundreds of thousands Albanians killed during Ranković's time (50's, 60's), before that and all the way to Mr Pig Milosevic. The world is not interested to hear about 6 days of your suffering, you self pity…..
6 days of suffering justifies all the suffering you had, even one day can make people understand why you suffered.
Me - October 31, 2011 at 11:59 pm
Can't we all just get along :)) I rarely watch documentaries about this "our" balkan sh*t,, but I do read comments…lol…maybe to see if something changes…or did positive ppl came out to comment…tuff luck….anyway…. Greetings to all from Serbia
fuckserbia - October 31, 2011 at 5:21 am
here you go serbia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIN8Cm5rYXY


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