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Tyra Banks Speaks Out
Aired January 29, 2007 - 21:00 ET
TYRA BANKS, SUPERMODEL & TV HOST: What does that feel like, to be so scrutinized by your principal, being...
LARRY KING, CNN ANCHOR: Tonight, Tyra Banks and "F" word. From supermodel to media mogul, she's living large, some say too large.
Is putting on 30 pounds just too much for a former fashion model?
Now, Tyra takes on the critics and tabloids who have been mocking her and gives us the skinny on the weight gain that's got everybody buzzing.
She'll take your calls and e-mail questions, too.
Tyra Banks for the hour next on LARRY KING LIVE.
Starting another night, another week of LARRY KING LIVE.
We welcome Tyra Banks to this program.
She's the host of "The Tyra Banks Show," a syndicated daytime talk show now in its second hit season. It reaches 98 percent of the United States.
She's also a host and executive producer of "America's Next Top Model," the hit TV reality show that kicks off its eighth cycle next month. She's on the cover of the new "People," which we have right here.
How do you feel about the headline? "You Call This Fat?" what -- what started all of this?
BANKS: You know what I think -- I think what started it all is me being in Australia. I was doing a photo shoot in Australia about a month, I guess, ago. And there was some paparazzi that that snapped some photos of me.
And I didn't -- I didn't know that there were going to be these photos that were coming out. But I get back home and I'm getting these messages from people that are telling me like what's up with these pictures? Like, what is that? I just saw you, you know, two weeks ago. What's going on?
So I Googled myself. Actually, I Googled "Tyra fat," Larry. I Googled "Tyra fat" and...
KING: "Tyra fat?"
BANKS: "Tyra fat," yes, because I...
KING: What came up?
BANKS: Because I Googled my normal name first and it, you know, it was just some other stuff. So I Googled "Tyra fat" and actually, that photo didn't even come up. Some photos of me on the Victoria's Secret runway came up, saying that I was fat on that.
And then as I scrolled down, those came up.
KING: Now, Tyra is going to confront your fat tabloid picture on your daytime talk show, I think on Thursday.
BANKS: February 1st.
KING: Right.
Let's take a preview look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "THE TYRA BANKS SHOW," COURTESY WARNER BROTHERS)
BANKS: As of today's taping, this photo was taken three weeks ago. And just so you know, the day of my panty party, I weighed 150 pounds. But the holidays rolled around and today I weigh 160 pounds. So that is 10 pounds that I have gained, not 40. (END VIDEO CLIP)
KING: All right, you've gained 10 pounds you say there, not 40?
BANKS: Yes. I've gained 10 pounds since I've retired from modeling, as well, not 30. When everyone is saying that I've gained 30 pounds, I always say that I used to be 30 pounds lighter when I was a "high fashion" model, like modeling in Paris and Milan.
KING: "Vogue" stuff?
BANKS: "Vogue" stuff.
But doing Victoria's Secret, I was always in the 150s.
KING: So your weight fluctuates all the time now?
BANKS: It fluctuates, yes, around 10, 12 pounds.
KING: Were those pictures embarrassing to you?
BANKS: You know, it wasn't that it was embarrassing, because it's -- I don't think it's a reflection of what my body is right now, although I do think one day it will be a reflection of my body, because I like to eat. I'm not obsessed with working out. So it wasn't so much of an embarrassment, it was just like what is that? And it saddened me because I felt there was such a rejoicing. But I think I understand it. For so many years I was this high fashion model and, you know, putting this image out there that's so difficult to live up to.
And so then these pictures come out and it's like oh, wow!, you know, look at her. She's...
KING: Got you.
BANKS: Got you. And it's like no, that's not a reflection of my body. But if it was I'd come out and say yes, you guys, that's me. But for it to not be is the thing that's so crazy. And for them to say, you know, all these negative things, I have a show, "The Tyra Banks Show," with so many girls that -- that are -- that do have that body or that are even heavier than that, you know, look up to me. And they say Tyra, you weigh 30 pounds heavier than those models that are on the runway right now and you make me feel beautiful. I look at your body and I feel beautiful.
So when the tabloids are saying that that's ugly, that's disgusting, that makes me think of my audience.
KING: Why let tabloids bother you?
BANKS: You know what?
KING: They come and they go.
BANKS: They come and they go, But I think that I have a responsibility. I've dedicated this part of -- the first part of my life was about myself.
How many magazine covers can I get? How many fashion shows can I walk down? You know, how many of this, how many of that?
But this next part of my life is not so much about self- gratification. It's about me using this platform that I have, this talk show that I have, to encourage young women.
Larry, I have women crying their eyes out to me, telling me that they want to hurt themselves because of how they look, because they're getting talked about. So I felt like I needed to say something.
KING: But on the tabloid side, to take their side, they took those pictures. They are you.
BANKS: Um-hmm.
KING: It turned into a good story for them.
BANKS: It's a great story for them.
KING: So give them that, right?
BANKS: I think it's a fabulous story, you know? And what I say is that those pictures are the best thing that happened to me...
BANKS: ... in terms of being a talk show host.
KING: Because?
BANKS: Because when something happens to you it gives you even more chutzpah to talk about something because you feel it. You feel it personally. For instance -- and I think about like mothers that have -- that their children have gone through some type of -- something negative. And then they get on a platform and join an organization and are the spokesperson for that organization because it happened to them.
So this is not me, you know, putting on -- because on my talk show I put on, you know, a 350-pound suit to show the discrimination that obese people have. That suit comes off. People know that that's not me, no matter what I say, you know, me being here now, sitting how I'm sitting, you know, with the body that I've had for the last I don't know how long, no matter what I say, people are still going to believe that photo was me.
And so I feel like I need to talk about that and tell people that even if that was me, that's not ugly. It's not awful. It's not disgusting.
KING: How tall are you?
BANKS: I'm 5'10."
KING: Now, according to "People," your biggest source of figure angst is your bust size.
BANKS: Yes, it is.
KING: Do you have large busts for a fashion model?
BANKS: Yes. Even when I -- when I was a fashion model I was around a -- I feel so strange talking to you about bust size right now.
BANKS: Because it's like we're talk -- I don't know. It's just -- I don't know. You know, we have this -- we have this paternal thing and we're talking about busts. But...
KING: OK, (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
BANKS: But when I was a model, I was around a cup -- a C cup. And now I'm a little bit bigger than a D. I don't like to say what it is but I...
KING: Yes, so you would not be a "Vogue" model today, right?
BANKS: No, there's no way I don't think. No.
KING: Why don't they want well-busted women?
BANKS: Well-busted women? Well, you know, when I was a fashion model, a high fashion model -- this was like 15 years ago -- certain designers would bind my breasts down with Ace bandages.
KING: But why? Why is that?
BANKS: Because it didn't fit the clothes. They -- they made clothes that were a certain size and it didn't fit in my chest. But yet and still, they wanted me in their fashion show and they wanted me in the show so bad that they bound my chest.
KING: When you were on the cover of "Sports Illustrated," I think two issues in a row, right?
BANKS: Yes.
KING: What then were you weighing?
BANKS: When I was on "S.I." I might have been around 140 -- and, 140, 145. And the crazy thing was that people, you know, in the high fashion industry were telling me that I was heavy. So I walked on the set of that -- of that shoot and I was thinking that I was heavy. And then I saw the Polaroids, you know, the photographer takes Polaroids that day, and I was like I'm crazy. They're getting into my head.
KING: We have an e-mail question from Doug in South Gate, Michigan: "Why is it you saw nothing wrong with pushing thin is in upon the American public as long as you are, but as soon as you began to put on a few pounds, suddenly fat is where it's at? Isn't this hypocritical?"
BANKS: I have, from day one, been a model that has been very honest. I've been a model that has been heavier, Doug, than the average model. When I was a Victoria's Secret model, I was 30 pounds heavier than those women. The thing is -- and I would talk about it on talk shows all the time.
But the difference back then was I was a fashion model. So all you guys really cared about was my pictures. You didn't care about what came out of my mouth.
So me stating the same thing and having a platform of a talk show and people being more interested in what I have to say, it gets a lot more attention.
I wrote a book, Larry, about eight years ago called "Tyra's Beauty Inside and Out." And I talk about body image and about people saying that I was too big and crying to my mother about being too big and trying to push models that are not super skinny.
"America's Next Top Model," I've tried to have plus size models and girls that are fuller. So this is not something coming out of the blue. People are just listening. KING: Coming up a little later on the show, the skeleton syndrome.
Is young Hollywood getting too thin?
Tyra gives us her take on the new waif look, or should it be called the wafer thin look?
As we go to break, the day Tyra and her studio audience did some undie-cover work.
Don't go away.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "THEY TYRA BANKS SHOW," COURTESY WARNER BROTHERS)
BANKS: And if we're going to be talking about underwear today, I think we've got to see what we're working with. For example, I've got on some underwear today and I think they make me feel pretty fantastic. In fact, I'm going to show you how fantastic my underwear make me feel.
(TAKES OFF HER OUTER CLOTHING)
BANKS: Everybody, on the count of one, two, three, I want you to lose those under the canopy robes right now.
Freedom them underwear, everybody!
Free them! Free them! Free them!
Because today -- today is a fannie corner.
NICOLE RICHIE: It's hot outside. It's summer.
BANKS: No doubt. No doubt.
RICHIE: At every -- every place to go be, like, you obviously eat outside. So if I eat outside, it's I'm eating for the cameras, you know what I mean?
BANKS: Oh, (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
RICHIE: And it's just like...
BANKS: That's (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
RICHIE: And it's like no, I'm not eating for the cameras. I live in L.A. and I'm doing what I normally do and just like let me be. Where it really bothers me -- and this happens all the time -- is when I go to the beach, because when I go to the beach...
BANKS: They want you on the swimsuit.
RICHIE: They want me in the swimsuit.
KING: Is that part of being young and pretty?
BANKS: What, being followed by the paparazzi?
BANKS: I think with Nicole's issue it's different. You know, it was her drastic weight change. She had a very big drastic weight change. And I've spoken to "Us Weekly," actually about it. I had them on my talk show, because I kind of confronted them to say why put so much emphasis on this girl and say that she's a fashion icon now, when she's super, super thin and you weren't saying that when she had a more curvy figure?
And that was his response, was that, you know -- I don't know what his response was, but I...
KING: Wait. I'm a little lost.
Isn't -- wouldn't most women desire a curvy figure?
BANKS: You know, I...
KING: Isn't curvy good?
BANKS: You know, the sad thing is I used to speak at colleges. I was on a college lecture circuit. And I spoke at Johns Hopkins and Georgetown and UCLA and various other colleges. And I talked about how the female body goes in and out of fashion, the different types of bodies. In the 50s, it was Marilyn Monroe, you know, curvaceous, size 14.
In the '60s it was Twiggy. You know, she was very, very thin, naturally thin, but very, very thin.
And in the '80s it was more athletic.
And then the '90s was kind of heroin chic.
And then now it's even beyond that. They were calling Kate Moss skinny in the '90s. These girls are way skinnier than her.
KING: How about just Charlize Theron?
BANKS: Gorgeous body.
KING: All right, why can't that be the '60s, '70s and '80s? Why can't everybody just be that -- that be the model?
That type of body type was the type of body type that was when I was modeling. But people still said that models were too thin.
KING: One other thing on busts.
Did you consider breast reduction surgery?
BANKS: No. You know what? I never considered that because it would leave too much scarring. That's -- and I'm answering you very honestly. That's something I've thought about. I look at young women that, you know, they wear their tank tops in the mall and they don't have to wear a bra and that's absolutely fabulous. I look at that, but I don't want that if it would leave scars.
KING: Did people then think you had false...
BANKS: Oh, yes.
KING: They did?
BANKS: People thought I had false breasts for a long time. And I -- I underwent this kind of live ultrasound by a plastic surgeon on my talk show to prove that that was not the case.
KING: Are you afraid of plastic surgery?
BANKS: No, I'm not afraid of plastic surgery and I'm not against it. And sometimes I get angry when models say that there's against plastic surgery, because I feel like you won a genetic lottery, girl, and you might have even done something yourself, and here you are telling people that they shouldn't do that?
I feel like everybody should make a choice and, you know, if they want to do that, that's fine. It doesn't -- I'm so not against it.
KING: You started when you were 15?
BANKS: Fifteen years old.
KING: What was your break?
BANKS: My big break -- I mean I had different big -- I had different breaks. I got accepted to five colleges for film and television production. I wanted to produce. And at the last minute, this modeling agent, this scout, saw -- in Paris...
KING: Out here? You grew up in L.A.?
BANKS: Uh-huh. And I was modeling locally, just little stuff here and there. And this modeling scout saw some pictures of me in L.A. and she convinced me to put school off for a year and come to Paris. So that was my first big break.
KING: And you were what age when you went to Paris?
BANKS: I was 17. I had just graduated from high school.
KING: What did your parents think?
BANKS: My mom was extremely supportive. She said if this is what you want to do, then you have to make sure you study it. I studied so much about the fashion industry. I studied designers. I studied all the different walks that every model had. I knew how to walk for Chanel, Yves Saint Laurent, Dior, because I studied.
And I went over to Paris and I booked around 25 fashion shows my very first season, and that hasn't been repeated since.
And my dad had another -- my dad was not supportive of this at all -- at all. He wanted me to go to school. He had already paid for Loyola Marymount University. He was ready for me to go.
KING: Did he come to accept it?
BANKS: He came to accept it when the covers started getting sent home.
KING: Did you get them very early?
BANKS: My first job was a cover in Paris, actually. My very first job was a cover of a magazine called "Vente An," which means 20 years in French.
KING: What did you like about standing there all day?
BANKS: Modeling?
KING: It seems boring.
I did not like posing for photos. It wasn't...
KING: You don't?
BANKS: No. But -- so I didn't like modeling. I liked having modeled. So liked the finished product. I did not like creating the product. But what I did like was the runway, because I felt like I was a big ham and I can just pounce on the runway.
KING: We'll take a break and be back with more of Tyra Banks right after these words.
BANKS: Whenever I pick up a magazine, they are talking about your weight. RICHIE: Right.
BANKS: They're showing certain pictures. They're just really, really scrutinizing your weight.
What does that feel like, to be so scrutinized by your physical being?
RICHIE: It's horrible. It's horrible. Especially when you're trying to do something about it and you have just so many eyes watching you and people talking about you and -- and, you know, like we don't go around and call people fat, you know, that are overweight. We don't call people, you know, overweight and point at them and laugh at them.
So I don't know why it's OK to do it to people that are too thin.
BANKS: How do you deal with your girls -- they're 15 and 16 right now...
MARIA SHRIVER: Right.
BANKS: ... and they're dealing with all the body changes and this peer pressure and the self-esteem issues?
SHRIVER: I tell them to loosen their jeans.
BANKS: You do?
SHRIVER: Yes, I do, actually, because I said that that's a real woman, you know? That's not somebody who weighs 80 pounds. That's not somebody who's trying to be somebody she's not. That's somebody, you know, who's happy with themselves and who's doing something that she wants to do.
KING: A good point, isn't it?
BANKS: That was a very big compliment coming from Maria Shriver.
KING: Yes, it was.
BANKS: Oh my goodness.
KING: Tyra, Tyra, we sent our cameras out to the streets this past weekend.
BANKS: You did? KING: And, boy, were people anxious to talk to Tyra.
Here are a couple of things they wanted to know.
BANKS: Wow!
KING: Watch.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tyra, I want to know how you feel about your new image and how it's going to affect women from here on out.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, Tyra, I've just got a question for you.
How can I get thin and gorgeous like you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Tyra. I just wanted to not ask you a question, but just compliment you on your success and you're still beautiful no matter what anyone says.
KING: OK.
New image.
KING: What did you mean by that?
BANKS: I don't know if she -- I think she meant talk show image, transitioning from a model to a talk show host and being like one of the voices of my generation, as opposed to just like a body and a face. I think that's what she might be talking about.
KING: How -- all right.
How does it feel?
BANKS: You know, it feels very -- it feels good because this is a message that I've had for a long time. That's what the first e- mail, I think his name was Doug, he said, you know, you're just all of a sudden saying this. And this is something that I've always said, but now people are listening and people care.
And I've always had a passion for young girls. I have an organization called TZone. And it supports young girls and self- esteem with body image relationships, you know?
So it just feels really good now that people are listening to the message.
KING: Have people, in view of this current controversy -- if that's the right word -- come to your defense? BANKS: Yes. I am getting a lot of e-mails. There's a lot of celebrities that I don't know how they got my e-mail. I guess, you know, people like go well, here's her e-mail address, send her something. There's one celebrity -- I won't say her name. She's very famous. And she said that she's always been scared to say how much she weighs.
And now that I said on "People" magazine that I weigh 161 pounds right now, she said that just has liberated her because she feel fine when she looks in the mirror, but the number on the scale kills her. And she says now she feels free and OK to talk about her number.
KING: Why are we so weight crazy?
BANKS: I don't know. I don't know. I've never been so concerned about the number. If I was concerned about what the numbers said on the scale, I would have gone crazy.
I heard you speaking earlier, was it to Paula Zahn, talking about -- you said, you know, I don't look like I'm 161 pounds. But this is what 161 pounds looks like when you're 5'10," you know?
And it's OK. It's OK.
KING: Yes, I know.
But why are people so concerned about it?
BANKS: I -- I think we're still obsessed. And you...
KING: Top-sessed.
BANKS: And you want to talk about hypocritical, you know? Like I think it's so sad that there's these actresses and people out there and you're saying they're so skinny, they're so skinny, they're so skinny and then the -- but you're -- but at the same time, they're calling them the fashion icons. And they weren't fashion icons when they were thicker, but they are now when they're thinner.
Or to -- also, to attack people that have gained weight or -- you know, I just, it's -- like, I think it's really sick.
KING: Supermodel Gisele Bundchen, you know her?
KING: Has jumped into the controversy over super thin models. She suggests one of the problems is that some of these girls don't have a strong family base to support them.
BANKS: When it comes to anorexic models?
KING: Yes. BANKS: I think, you know, Gisele has her -- her point. But I think there's a whole -- it's a lot deeper. You know, anorexic is a disease. Bulimia is a disease. It's not just a disorder.
KING: Did you ever fall into it?
BANKS: No, I never have. I never ever have. And to Gel's -- to Gisele's point, it's because of my mother.
KING: So she's on point then?
BANKS: Yes. When the agencies told me that I needed -- I was 123 pounds, Larry. And the agencies told me that I needed to be 10 pounds lighter. So 5'10" and 113 pounds. And I went to -- my mom told me that the agency said that to her. And I said ma, what are we going to do?
And she took my hands and she said, "You know what we're going to do, Tyra? We're going to go order pizza right now."
That is the person that was my rock and kept me focused.
So I do think that's part of it.
Another part is the fashion industry. You know, and this -- I'm not going to attack them. It's an industry that made me the woman that I am today, you know, in terms of my success.
But at the same time, when they're hiring the skinniest, skinniest girl out there, the girl next to her is going oh my gosh, I'm five pounds lighter -- heavier than her, or 10 pounds heavier than her, she's booking more shows than me.
So what do I do to eat, to feed my family, to, you know, so...
KING: So then you lost jobs because you were curvy, right?
BANKS: I started to lose jobs because I was curvy and changed my career and decided to do, you know, Victoria's Secret and more Cover Girl and "Sports Illustrated" and be the girl next door. I did Pepsi commercials and things that...
KING: It was great that you could make that transition.
BANKS: I -- yes, most girls can't.
KING: An e-mail question from Gayle in Syracuse, New York: "Does Tyra do any type of exercise?"
BANKS: I go back and forth with exercise. That's why my weight goes between 148 and 162. Right now I'm around -- I'm around 161. I'm not doing any cardio. I probably lost about three or four pounds in the last couple of weeks because I just started pilates again. But pilates doesn't really make you lose weight. Maybe you shed a little bit, but you've got to get on the treadmill to lose weight. KING: Now, how do you deal with those who say well, in view of what you're currently doing, you shouldn't be advising aspiring young models?
BANKS: That is the biggest -- that is my biggest yin and yang pull that I go to bed with every single night because I created "America's Next Top Model" because I feel so fortunate. I feel so...
KING: It's a reality show?
BANKS: Yes, it's a reality show. Yes, my reality show, "America's Next Top Model." I feel so fortunate to have had a career and to live in Los Angeles, California and have access to best agencies in the world.
And I wanted to be able to give young girls that dream, because it's an amazing dream and I had the power to give them that dream.
But at the same time, a lot of the girls on the show are very thin. And so that is my -- the crux that lives inside of me that I go to bed at night and I'm like, I want to give this dream, but at the same time, it's creating insecurities.
So what I do is I have plus size girls on the show or have curvier girls on the show. And I even take it even beyond body image and I have girls that are not the typical beauty, you know? Not just the typical pretty girl. She might be odd looking, interesting looking, to make that young girl at home see some type of reflection in himself.
Because contrary to popular belief, the most successful models aren't the prettiest girls in the world.
KING: Aren't there some work for overweight women, to show overweight kind of dresses for size 16s?
BANKS: You mean overweight or full-figured?
There's a difference.
KING: Full-figured. Full-figured.
BANKS: Get it right, Larry.
It's not overweight.
KING: OK. Full-figured.
BANKS: Full-figured. Yes, there is work for full-figured.
KING: That's a market, isn't it?
BANKS: Yes. And we have full-figured girls on Top Model. In fact, I have been wanting to do this for so long, for cycle eight, which starts on February 28th, we're actually going to have two plus size models on Top Model. KING: How about women over 40?
BANKS: There's a market for that, too. That's called the mature market.
KING: Ahead in our second half, Tyra's undercover work in a fat suit. An emotional experience for her. She'll talk about it after this.
BANKS: OK, I'm going to read a statement and if you agree with this statement, I want you to move all the way over to the side of the audience with the "agree" sign.
All right, the first statement is: "I constantly refer to myself as fat. I constantly refer to myself as fat."
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When I look in the mirror I cry and I see ugliness and fat. And in high school I used to cut myself. I did.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She calls himself ugly. She cuts herself and constantly is comparing herself to like Britney Spears' -- body, hair, looks and whatnot.
KING: We are back with Tyra Banks. We will be going to phone calls and more e-mails. You dressed up in a fat suit and we will show a clip of that. Why?
BANKS: I did that because one day I was sitting around a table of some friends of mine. And my friends represented the colors of the rainbow. I mean I had all different races. We were talking about all kinds of stuff and the subject turned to obese people. And one of my friends said when I see them eat, I just want to vomit. I think it's disgusting. And everybody starting piping in started agreeing with it.
I said I want you guys to stop. My talk show opened up my guys to the world and everything. So I said, you guys, stop. Look, you guys are all different races. If somebody says something about Asian or Latin or black person, you guys would be arguing and fighting and beating each other down verbally, I was like, but you all joined forces with this whole overweight thing. And I was like, this might be the last thing that is OK to like slander and do these type of slurs. And I was like, I'm going to do a show about this. I didn't know what I was going to do but that conversation is it what started it. And then we decided to just take it a step further and go inside the world.
KING: Let's watch Tyra undercover.
BANKS: Looks like me but I can not really feel it.
Three hours later as the final touches were being done, my production team gathered the gear for the experience. With a hidden camera in my glasses and undercover cameraman, I was ready to hit the streets.
As soon as I stepped off the bus, I saw three people turn and laugh right in my face. I was stunned.
KING: What did you learn?
BANKS: I learned, I didn't know people were so nasty and so ugly. I know that people can say things behind your back. I've heard it. When I was a young girl, I was a mean girl. I used to talk about people. But I did not know it could be so blatant. That in your face, people laughed and pointed to me as soon as I stepped off that bus or I went on a date with a guy, and I said, as you can imagine, I kind of have some trouble dating. And he goes, oh, I don't have to imagine. I have eyes.
Stuff like that. I was like, I had no idea. And this experiment was not -- because some people were pitching me, go to a movie theater and try to sit in the seat and see - Like, what does that have to do in anything? Like, what, I'm trying to prove the ugliness of people not the difficulty of being overweight physically but the ugliness of people.
KING: Let's talk calls for Tyra. Ontario, Canada. Hello.
CALLER: Hi, Tyra.
BANKS: Hi.
CALLER: I have a six-year-old taught who thinks she's fat. And I'm just wondering with your show "America's Next Top Model" how you can help change that perception in society?
BANKS: You know what, your daughter calling herself fat is the reason why I do my talk show. It is because that pains me so much. It's why I started my organization called T-Zone because of young girls.
And but she's probably too young to watch my talk show and she probably watches "America's Next Top Model" more. And I want you to tell her to watch -- and I don't mean to tell you if I'm plugging but "America's Next Top Model Cycle Eight" starts February 28. And I want you to sit her down in front of that TV. Because there are two beautiful full-figured models on the show. It's not like a token like we just throw in one just because I have been fighting for two girls for so long and finally got my way.
I think she is going to feel a lot more beautiful when she sees that. I think it's so important that young girls see some type of reflection of themselves, whether she's overweight or not, but to see something being called beautiful. Like a little black girl to see black girls on TV and see that's called beautiful, Asian, Latin, full figured, whatever it is. That's what starts changing little girl's minds.
KING: Have you had producer put pressure on you about weight, television producers?
BANKS: I wouldn't say pressure but I have had some executives at my talk show say that if I were to gain weight, they think I would be more relatable. I have had that but not pressure but they are like Tyra, we prefer if you're thicker because it makes you not as ...
KING: Paparazzi not bother you? Or are you too identifiable?
BANKS: I don't get bothered by the paparazzi. I'm very lucky. They don't really follow me. I think because I don't party or do anything. So there's no story except for on a beach in Australia, I guess.
KING: Ladysmith, British Columbia. Hello.
CALLER: Hi, Tyra, I was just wondering, I know you have a lot of connections in the entertainment business and I have always had it in the back of my head to make a film about girls who need to see that there are more girls in this world full figured. I was wondering if you ever thought about making a film about it to get more teenage girls?
BANKS: A film about raising the awareness of full figured beauty?
CALLER: Making it so that -- anorexic, being that thin is not cool. It isn't realistic.
BANKS: I have not thought about doing a movie about that. Movies take so long to do.
KING: It would make a good television special.
BANKS: A good television special. But the thing is with my talk show, we cover that all the time. So I do 185 shows per year on my talk show and a big percentage of that is dedicated to exactly what you're talking about. So I'm lucky enough to have that platform for that message to get out there.
KING: E-mail question from Patty in Herndon, Virginia - "What advice can you give parents whose teenage daughters are bombarded by the 'Hollywood Line' that you must be big busted and bone thin to look beautiful. My daughter is 5'3, weighs a 110. I think she's the perfect weight. She's convinced she's fat."
BANKS: Five-three and 110 and convinced she's fat. I feel like, you know, sometimes I'm like -- I'm so happy I don't have a daughter right now. Because I don't even know if the words that I would say to my own daughter would get through to her. Because sometimes, you know, we don't listen to our moms and we think our moms are just like saying stuff to us. But I will look in the camera and tell your daughter right now, 5'3" and 110 pounds that's very small.
And it's so hard to not look at the magazines. The magazines with the very skinny actresses. Those girls don't look healthy. I don't know if they are healthy or not but they do not look healthy. And 5'3" and 110 is a beautiful weight. It's kind of still on the small side to me. And don't let that not tell you that that's beautiful.
Suzanne Depass (ph), she has a great history with Berry Gordy (ph) and great businesses now. I was sitting with her at dinner the other night. And she was talking about -- I don't remember the quote exactly and I will get it at a break because I want to read this quote. But she talked about like your body and yourself esteem is like a boat. And there's all of this water around you but in order to stay mentally healthy, you have to make sure that water does not get inside of your boat.
And that's what I'm trying to do right now with young girls. I'm trying to say, there's all of this stuff telling you you're not good enough. There are people telling me I'm America's not top waddle. They have been saying this to me since I'm 23 in modeling. That I'm too big, that I'm too big. But I have to keep the water out of my head so I can be strong enough for young girls that are feeling the pressures of that.
KING: Coming up -- the difference between nighttime Tyra and daytime Tyra. She will explain. And we will talk about her interview with Janet Jackson, too. Stick around.
BANKS: What are you insecure about when you look in the mirror and you take your clothes off and you go, oof ...
JANET JACKSON, SINGER: Oh, a friend asked me once to do an exercise and look in the mirror and find something you like about yourself. So I looked in the mirror and I immediately started crying.
BANKS: Really?
JACKSON: Yeah, because there was nothing I liked about myself. I kept trying. Finally was able to actually just look at myself in the mirror without, you know, having any kind of emotional tremor. And I realize I like the sway of my back and my smile.
BANKS: Why do you think you look in the mirror and cry? Everyone looks at you and thinks that you're so beautiful.
JACKSON: I never - well, thank you, never found myself attractive.
BANKS: Why do you think that is?
JACKSON: I don't know. I really don't know. I just never found myself attractive.
KING: You like her?
BANKS: I love Janet Jackson.
KING: Good girl.
BANKS: And it's funny. Because I have seen her do a lot of interviews but I had not seen the side of her when she did my show. I asked her 20 questions she's never been asked, just crazy questions, and she answered all of them, with like, Tyra girl, what are you saying? You know the Janet Jackson that talks really soft but she went out of that comfort zone.
KING: What's nighttime Tyra, daytime Tyra?
BANKS: Oh, my gosh. There's two different ones.
KING:: Who is here now?
BANKS: Daytime. Just, you know, whatever. But nighttime Tyra is character. She looks like this and she says, that picture is not fierce. Your eyes look dead. Who the hell is that? No, that's something I created. It's a television show, "America's Next Top Model" was the nighttime girl. The critique coming out of my mouth is from my heart and all of my experience being in the fashion industry for almost 18 years.
KING: That's daytime.
BANKS: That's nighttime. That's the girl like this, nighttime, "America's Next Top Model" Larry, you're still in the running.
KING: Daytime?
BANKS: Daytime I'm just myself. "America's Next Top Model" I'm consistently sucking my stomach in. Daytime I'm running around the stage, my stomach is sticking out and I'm talking about flatulence and eating and all kinds of crazy stuff.
KING: Flatulence?
BANKS: Yeah.
KING: You said something interesting during the break.
BANKS: What did I say?
KING: That you, nighttime and daytime Tyra, you have trouble getting dates.
BANKS: I do have trouble getting dates. It's hard.
BANKS: I don't know.
KING: Do you intimidate guys.
BANKS: I went on this date with this one guy, they are calling you a mogul and stuff, I read how much money you make, damn. I'm like, I'm just a girl. I'm really just a girl. If I take off this hair weave and eyelashes, will you not be intimidated.
And I went on one date with a guy, we had such good chemistry. He was like you're so cool. Oh my God, I feel like I have known you forever, this is crazy. Never called me back. Never called me back. I hear later he thinks that I'm just too -- my image or success is too much. And I'm like, I'm just a girl.
I remember that movie, what is that movie "Notting Hill" with Julia Roberts, I'm just a girl standing in front of a boy asking him to love me.
KING: You would think, the world would think they are in line for you.
BANKS: I wish I had a line. Where is the line? Line up outside -- no.
KING: Barry, Ontario, next call from Barry, Ontario, for lonely Tyra. Hello.
CALLER: Good evening, Larry. Good evening, Tyra. I have a question for you. You have been a model for a long time and you know the pressures. Do you feel that beauty pageant contestants feel the same pressure, especially what's happened with Miss USA?
BANKS: Do beauty pageant contestants feel the same about body image.
KING: Pressure, just the same pressure.
BANKS: Just the pressure. I think beauty pageant contestants, they might even feel a little bit more pressure than models.
KING: You ever entered one?
BANKS: Oh gosh no. I never have. I probably would be good at it but I never was interested in, never attracted to that at all.
KING: Must be a lot of pressure to walk down that think.
BANKS: I just think they have to smile, they have to have the certain answer. It's like a certain thing, where a model can walk into work with a tank top on and be like, where is the set, put on hair and makeup and go boom and they go back and do whatever. It's very different.
KING: Our guest is Tyra Banks. Anderson cooper is in the city of San Antonio, Texas, tonight. They are dedicating an extraordinary new facility and we will check with him right after these words.
KING: Anderson Cooper will host AC 360. The traveling man is in San Antone tonight. It was a marvelous dedication today. I got a tip about the advanced look at that with the special we did on Fisher homes, associated with that, homes for people who are the relatives of returning veterans. What is it like, Anderson?
COOPER: Larry, it was an incredible day here. They opened up two of those Fisher houses here as wells the center of the Intrepid here, the Brook Army Medical Center. It is a state of the art brand- new facility to help troops recover from amputations and burns and other injuries. At its dedication where presidential hopefuls Senator Hillary Clinton and John McCain. I spoke at length one-on-one with both of them. You are going to hear what they have to say about the war in Iraq, the Bush administration, and brave American troops serving overseas.
We will also speak with some of the troops who have come home and are now on the road to recovery. It is a 360 special you will not forget. The toughest battle, healing heroes, that is what we are calling it. All of that and more, Larry, just ahead on 360.
KING: That will be extraordinary. Anderson Cooper, AC 360 at 10:00 Eastern, 7:00 Pacific. We had our cameras as we said early, we showed you some of the people on the street. Here are some more with questions and comments about Tyra Banks. Let's watch.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, Tyra, we are just trying to find out what is your next move for your career? Will you stay in talk shows? Are you going to move into movies, what is the next move?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Or stay at home and have babies, hey!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where do I look?
Tyra, I was wondering if you're ever going to make a modeling, maybe "Sports Illustrated" swimsuit or anything like that? Because I'd kind of like to see you again.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, Tyra, I'm just wondering, how do you have time to do anything? Every time I see you, you're on TV with your talk show and with your top model. So I'm wondering how you have a life rather than work.
KING: OK. Let's break it down. Any career moves still to come? BANKS: Yeah, I do. I have a lot of things in the works. Bankable Productions is my production company and we have a sitcom in the works. We have a one-hour show in the works. We have a live show in the works. The bankable --
KING: You're entrepreneurial?
BANKS: Yeah, very much so. Bankable mantra is things fantasy- based and also empowering to women as well as fantasy, too, and entertaining.
KING: Will you produce things you're not on?
BANKS: Most definitely. That's what most of my projects are. Like the girl said, if I did everything, I would be going crazy.
KING: Ever want to go back to modeling?
BANKS: Gosh, no. I do not want to go back to modeling. There's things that I play around here or there on "America's Next Top Model," there is a shot of me that pops up every judging that I do, so that's my little thing. That's enough.
KING: What if a company came by and said, we would like you to be our Maybelline lipstick girl?
BANKS: They have -- not Maybelline, I'm saying. I'm just saying I get offered all of that stuff.
KING: Would you return?
BANKS: Yeah, I'm not so interested in being an endorser now, Larry. I want to own the companies that I work with. I don't want to work for someone else.
KING: But you do remember the days when you would you have jumped at it?
BANKS: I had a Cover Girl contract. I think I was the second black woman ever to have a Cover Girl - to have a cosmetics contract. I jumped at that bit I feel like now I want to create companies and hire young girls to be in them, not for me to be in it.
KING: How do you find time was the other question, the two of them.
BANKS: How do I find time? Last year I didn't have any weekends. All of my works were 24/7 and it was to get this talk show off the ground and continue "Top Model's" success. But now I have weekends. I sleep in. All day yesterday -- the day before yesterday, I worked yesterday. Was that Saturday? I laid in the bed until 2:00 p.m. And went to the movies with my mama and saw two movies.
KING: No date, Saturday night, Tyra Banks.
BANKS: With my mom. Isn't that sad? That is really sad. But I'm dating. I have dates.
KING: You're open to date.
BANKS: It's just guys don't ask me out. Can I give you my Suzanne Depass quote that I found in my little ...
KING: Yeah, sure.
BANKS: I keep this little journal in my purse. I think everybody should keep these types of things in your purse, it's things to do, things that I hear that inspire me and at that dinner Suzanne Depass told me "All the water in the world cannot sink a ship unless it gets inside."
And she didn't know I was going through all of this tabloid hell or maybe she did. And she was very gracious at the dinner table and she didn't bring it up. But she was speaking to my spirit and my soul. I was like, I'm doing everything to make sure that that water does not get inside so I can say strong for young women.
KING: An e-mail from Jason, Pembroke Pines, Florida. "At what point in your career did you realize that modeling would not last forever?"
BANKS: I was around 18 years old.
BANKS: Yeah. A couple of years in my career when I realized that there was going to be an end to this and I started preparing for the end at the beginning. I would be backstage at fashion shows looking around and saying, OK, she was real hot last season and now she's only in two fashion shows in Paris.
This one was hot but now she's insecure because her phone is not ringing. I was like -- I talked to my mom, mom, I got to do something else. So I did an interview when was 18 years old in Milan, Italy. And they said what do you want to do after modeling? And I was like, I'm going to have my own talk show and I meant it and I planned for this. I always tell young kids, people think I just popped up and did a talk show and that popped up. But it was a plan.
KING: You knew where you were going. We will be back with our remaining moments with Tyra Banks right after this. Don't go away.
KING: We are back. We have one more email from Mbutu in Lagos, Nigeria ...
BANKS: Wow.
KING: It's not so much a question as an offer. "Why is Tyra worried about her weight? I would marry her as my queen."
BANKS: Thank you, Mbutu! I'm not worried about my weight at all. I'm worried about young girls and what the negative connotation of those pictures out there are saying. I'm not worried about my weight. I know what I look like Mbutu. I'm 161 and I feel fine and wonderful. Thank you, though!
KING: Go get them, Mbutu.
BANKS: The one thing I want to tell you, Larry, about -- People are like, why am I speaking out about these pictures. I always tell the truth about any type of lie. The truth about any type of lie. There are pictures of me that are retouched where I look like a Barbie. And I will go on my talk show, I have gone on other shows and remove the retouching and say this is what my booty really looks like and this is what my dark sickles and this is what I look like without a hair weave. So I'm just doing it the other way.
KING: And this Thursday on your show you are going to discuss all of this?
BANKS: February 1, yes.
KING: Supermodel Naomi Campbell. You and she have had some issues. You talked about them on her show.
BANKS: On my show.
KING: What do you think about her recent anger management.
BANKS: I'm proud of Naomi for going through anger management. I'm really, really proud of her for doing that.
KING: What issues do you have with her?
BANKS: Oh, I don't have any issues. In the past there were some issues. The industry was touting us as me being the new model and telling her to step aside because I was the new black model. And she had a strong reaction to that. As well she should. I think her reaction was a little strong. But if someone is telling you, Larry King, move over, there's a new one coming, and you have got to go, you would be offended about that. But I think she just took it a little too far.
KING: There were not black models until fairly recent history, right? This is a new phenomenon?
BANKS: During my time, there were more than there are now, but there were not a lot, no. No.
KING: It was just as hard in the modeling world as it was in every over world for the black woman?
BANKS: Yes ...
KING: Except for "Ebony" or "Jet."
BANKS: But the difference in the modeling world they can tell you to your face, your skin does not look good with my clothes or I don't want black girls this season or I don't want you or I want to pay you less. They say those types of things.
KING: They do?
BANKS: Yeah. And it's not illegal. Yeah.
KING: How did you cope with the pressures of that modeling? It's a very, very competitive field.
BANKS: Yeah, it was very competitive. I had a strong family. I -- I had interest outside of the modeling. I didn't mix my business with pleasure. I might have went, in 18 years I might have gone to three fashion parties. I stayed just far away from it. A lot it was intimidated and scared. People talking like this and telling you you are fabulous. That's in the real. That is like some caricature people. I'm scared of them and I just stayed away and it kept me sane.
KING: What was Paris like for an 18-year-old?
BANKS: I was 17 and it was terrifying. It was very lonely. I was doing really well but I didn't know I was doing well and my agency was telling me that I was doing just like all of the other girls. So I would come home to my roommate, who was a model, and I would say, are you going to do Chanel and Yves Saint Laurent and Dior today? And she was like - everybody is doing it right? And she thought I was pushing it in her face and my agency is lying to me and saying I wasn't doing well and it alienated me.
KING: Watch Tyra banks on Thursday November (ph) 1. It will be a follow-up to this program.
BANKS: And I do have one venture that I might model in, but I would be hiring myself, not working for somebody else.
KING: Hire yourself. It's come to this.
KING: Thanks, Tyra.
BANKS: Thanks you.
KING: Tyra Banks, what a great guest.
BANKS: Thank you.
KING: One note before we go, when Angelina Jolie joined Robert De Niro and Matt Damon on this program last month, I asked her about her mom, the actress Marshaline Bertrand (ph) and her long battle with ovarian cancer.
KING: Angelina, it's been reported your mom has been battling cancer. How is she doing? ANGELINA JOLIE, ACTRESS: She's doing good. She's been battling -- You're the first person to ask about it. She has for about six years. And she's a remarkable woman. She's very, very strong. Great.
KING: Sadly, Angelina's mom passed away on Saturday with Cedars- Sinai Medical Center with Angelina, her brother James Haven and her partner Brad Pitt by her side. She was only 56.
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2019, an year to watch out for Indian basketball
Indian basketball 2019
The year 2019 is going to be a landmark phase in Indian basketball scenario considering the amount of domestic tournaments, involvement of NBA and the exposure Indian players are getting abroad. Many major domestic tournaments will be conducted this year to find new talents of the game. NBA has renewed their interest in Indian basketball in order to uplift the love for the game and to find new talents from the pool of players the country has to offer. Many Indian players are starting to get recognized in foreign basketball leagues- a good sign for Indian basketball. Let's look at some the major prospects of Indian basketball in 2019.
Senior National Basketball championship: This year's senior national basketball championship marked the 69th edition of this annual basketball tournament. Punjab men and Railways women won this year's title of the men and women category respectively. The tournament saw many talented players ready to play at the highest level.
Rise of Satnam Singh: The big Punjabi player becomes the first Indian player to be drafted by the NBA. He played in the G-league for over two years and has started a new chapter in his career by joining NBL in Canada.He was signed by St John's Edge in NBL and is set to mark his presence felt in the Canadian league soon.
Amjyot Singh's successful campaign in the G League: Another Punjabi player who is getting popular in world stage, Amjyot Singh is getting more game time in NBA's G league. Amjyot is currently playing for OKC Blue, and has become a trusted team member within the second season with the team.
Indian Captain Jeena PS joins Australian team Ringwood Lady Hawks: One of the most popular basketball player in the country currently, Indian women's team captain Jeena PS signs for Australian basketball team Lady Hawks recently. Jeena's performance was noted by Hawks team management when the Australian team toured India back in 2017. The signing of Jeena is expected to be a motivation for many aspirant women basketball players to pursue the game professionally.
Domestic Junior level events to find out next superstars: Many junior level basketball tournaments are on the pipeline to find out young talents of the game. Basketball Federation of India will be conducting sub junior, junior and youth level nationals following the senior nationals this year which will bring U14, U16 and U18 talents from across the country to play for their future.
More NBA players to visit India: Last year many NBA stars visted India in order to participate in NBA events and to promote basketball in India. Brook Lopez, Robert Horry, Tim Hardaway have already visited India. Rashard Lewis, an NBA champion has confirmed his visit to India this year for the promotion and assessment of basketball in the country.
Second season of 3x3 basketball league: After the successful first season of 3x3 professional basketball league-the 3BL which was approved by FIBA , the second season of 3BL is all set to resume this year. The faster and shorter version of basketball is expected to bring in more crowd. The league will be held in six legs across six different cities in India. This year more national and international players will be part of the 3BL and will continue to link up with FIBA 3x3 Masters World Tour.
India's junior team to participate in Jr NBA world championships: Top teams from India will be chosen through this year's Jr NBA championships which will be held in city and national level over the summer. The best boys and girls teams selected through the championship will represent the country in US for the world championships.
Grassroots level initiatives: Many grassroots level initiatives for the growth of basketball in the country is being planned and implemented by different government and private bodies. However, patience and persisitence is the key to receive success from such initiaves. NBA's Reliance Foundation Jr NBA program is making giant strides in this regard. The project is reaching out to millions of aspiring school children to hone their basketball skills and to impart knowledge and enthusiasm about the game in general.
NBA India Games: NBA will host a historic first ever pre season games in India on October 4-5. Indiana Pacers and Sacramento Kings –top teams of NBA will play their pre season matches in Mumbai. Arrival of top flight NBA teams on Indian soil surely will boost the interest in basketball among Indian youth.

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October 3, 2014 - From the October, 2014 issue
CRA Dissolution Process: A City of LA Status Report
Tim McOsker
Tim McOsker, a partner at Glaser Weil LLP, serves on a three-member Governing Board responsible for winding down Los Angeles' Community Redevelopment Agency by meeting its legal obligations. McOsker updated TPR on the process following California's dissolution of CRAs in 2012, including the creation of a long-range property management plan. He comments on the impacts of dissolution on Los Angeles properties, the future of TIF, and the options for cities looking to incent economic development. Prior pieces in TPR's series on TIF can be found here, here, and here.
"To date, the return from the former CRA of LA to various taxing entities over the first two and half years has been well over half a billion dollars."
Tim, TPR last interviewed you weeks after California's Community Redevelopment Agencies were dissolved in 2012 and shortly after you'd been appointed to the three-member governing body charged with tying up the affairs of LA's CRA. Bring our readers up to date on what's transpired regarding LA CRA dissolution in the last two years.
Tim McOsker: The governing body and our oversight body went through a process to determine which projects were enforceable obligations as defined by the statute and would be completed using tax increment financing (TIF)—and, unfortunately for many folks, which projects would not be completed. On a six-month cycle, we've prepared the Recognized Obligation Payments Schedules (ROPS) to let the state know which obligations are being pursued and how we are spending TIF. The remaining tax increment has been returned to the state every six months for distribution to the various levels of government, also called the "taxing entities." To date, we've returned a great deal of tax dollars to the taxing entities.
In the City of LA, we have also completed our long-range property management plan, which covers how CRA-owned properties will be sold. We submitted the plan to the state and are awaiting approval. Once the state approves the plan, we will begin completing the wind-down of affairs by disposing of those properties accordingly.
At the time the governor dissolved CRAs, an LA Downtown News headline read, "CRA's Demise Puts Downtown Properties in Limbo." What was the actual impact in those early years of CRA dissolution, and what have fixes like AB 1484 done to provide more certainty in the LA marketplace?
When the dissolution took effect, the LA CRA was holding about 400 parcels of property, which amounts to approximately 100 different projects—because some projects have multiple parcels. The first version of the dissolution law was interpreted to require entities like ours to wind down affairs and sell all of the properties as quickly as possible. Statewide, that would entail a lot of sales of former CRA lands all at once.
Urban centers like Los Angeles saw the prospect of so many properties being up for sale at the same time—raising the specter of diminishing the values of properties and creating what some folks described as "chaos."
Subsequently, AB 1484 slowed down the process and allowed each agency to put together a "long range property management plan." The amended law took a longer view of how properties would be sold. Each agency was directed to put properties in different buckets: some to be sold right away, some to be held longer, and some to be simply deeded over to the local government for governmental uses. Each agency submits those plans to the state Department of Finance—as I mentioned, LA is awaiting approval of that plan now.
AB 1484 gave everybody an opportunity to plan for sales in a more orderly manner and over a longer period of time. It is very likely that the plans might protect the property values and not put urban-core areas with lots of parcels, like the City of Los Angeles, in limbo.
The Governor's premise in 2011 was that redevelopment had lost its way, especially in Los Angeles, and that dissolution would bring as much as $1.7 billion in revenues to the state that were being lost and misused. Can you share what you've learned in these last two and a half years about whether the governor's objectives are being met?
I can, with respect to the City of Los Angeles. But it would be difficult, or maybe even inappropriate, for me to comment on the statewide estimates for how much tax money would be returned to taxing entities.
The LA CRA has had an arms-length relationship with the Department of Finance, but has remained in constant contact and negotiation. While we needed to negotiate over certain issues regarding the return of some of these tax monies, we have not had to file any litigation. The ROPS process has been pretty smooth, given the circumstances. To date, the return from the former CRA of LA to various taxing entities over the first two and half years has been well over half a billion dollars.
Are the revenues you cite "ongoing"? Is that "new" money being targeted or is it now just a part of the city's general fund?
Yes, it is an ongoing flow of money. We account for and return unused increment, taxes that are not tied to an enforceable obligation, every six months. The total return to all entities from LA CRA has fluctuated from approximately $35 million to well over $100 million during each of those periods. The fluctuation is due to the differences in when enforceable obligations are paid or completed.
As we move forward, that number will normalize. We estimate it will be around $100 million every six months.
This flow of money becomes general revenue to each entity. As such, the money can be used for the priorities of each taxing entity—a matter determined by their governing officials.
The avowed purpose of redevelopment, when it was created, was to bring back to market dilapidated neighborhoods and to stimulate the economy, with much of its revenue going to affordable housing. Is that where the money being returned to local government is likely to go again? Are the tools in place in local government today to accomplish the CRA's statutory mission of yesteryear?
With respect to housing, the dissolution law provides that "housing assets" and funds attached to housing that the old CRAs held were to be returned to local agencies, restricted for the purposes of housing. In the short term, housing sites, revenues, and some of the tools used for assisted-housing projects remain in place for local entities.
As to the other economic development purposes of the former CRAs: Cities, counties, and local entities do not have the same tools today that they had under the former redevelopment law. They will have to come up with other creative ways to do economic development with returned funds, if they so choose. On the other hand, they can also choose to use the funds for police, fire, and other core services.
What are likely to be the creative ways cities incent economic development with returned funds going forward?
Cities generally will have to look at new tools that may be coming their way. For example, the governor has a measure sitting on his desk that would allow for broader use of Infrastructure Financing Districts (IFDs). If that becomes law, I think local jurisdictions will look to see whether IFDs can become a tool for investment and economic development.
Otherwise local government will have to use more traditional methods—like committing revenues for personnel and programs that would promote economic development, and otherwise trying to entice jobs and development in their cities.
Tim, the state's Department of Finance has been taken to court by California cities scores of times and faces 180 lawsuits. What's been the litigious relationship between the CA DOF and the LA CRA over these past two and a half years?
We've certainly engaged in some tense negotiations with the DOF, but we've taken every opportunity to mediate or arbitrate issues under the statute. So far, as I mentioned, we haven't reached a point where we've needed to file any litigation against the state.
What's been the impact of the credit rating on the CRA's obligations?
We haven't seen any drop in the LA CRA ratings since the dissolution. Our bond ratings in different project areas range from A to BBB. I think some of the lower ratings have more to do with the Great Recession than with the dissolution law.
All in all, looking back to 2011, did the dissolution affect the real estate development landscape of metropolitan Los Angeles and the City of LA?
Clearly there are areas of LA that need redevelopment, and we've seen a number of projects not go forward because they weren't enforceable obligations as defined in the dissolution law. If the TIF tools still existed, we'd see a number of neighborhoods that would have ongoing economic development projects with the assistance of local government. That's what we've lost for now.
But I am not sure we have seen some of the effects that other jurisdictions report, like falling credit ratings or the chaos of litigation here in the LA CRA.
In your opinion, is the future of TIF dim or bright? Is it needed or not needed?
I think a broad use of TIF is not likely in the near term.
As far as whether it's needed, my personal view is that tax-increment financing tailored to a well-defined purpose, and used in a way that does not impact needlessly the provision of other core services like education, police and fire, or health and safety for a community, would be beneficial. But I think all parties need to continue working toward a model that works.
If TIF were to be authorized again, what would a well-functioning, well-defined, targeted, TIF program accomplish that isn't being accomplished in the marketplace right now?
Say, for example we had a system of TIF for economic development targeted to create jobs. We would have a measurable way of defining the goal. Remember, these are finite dollars. We would have to create a system capable of looking back to measure and see whether we achieved our goals. In my example, were jobs created that were helpful to the community? Did the jobs last? How many were there, and did they benefit the community broadly though additional spending and community investment? If not, how would the use of TIF be curtailed or adjusted in the future to better meet the stated goal?


CHARLIE ROSE, PBS HOST: Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj has been president of Mongolia since 2009. He previously served as prime minister in 1998 and again from 2004 to 2006. He is considered one of the principal architects of democracy in his country. He was one of the leaders of the 1990 revolution that ended 70 years of communist rule in Mongolia and co-drafted the country's 1992 constitution.
This year marks the 25th anniversary of Mongolia's transition to democracy.
And so therefore I am very pleased to have the President at this table for the first time. Welcome.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ, PRESIDENT OF MONGOLIA: Thank you very much. This is the (inaudible). When we meet in Mongolia, we give to each other. It's a way greet. We ask how is the weather? How is your family? In Mongolia, horses are very popular. We ask how are your horses? And you smell and give me back.
CHARLIE ROSE: I smell it and give it back to you.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes. That's the way to begin conversation.
CHARLIE ROSE: Very well. I'm pleased to be part of your culture and your tradition.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Great. Yes, thank you.
CHARLIE ROSE: You have come a long way to the United Nations.
CHARLIE ROSE: What do you hope to accomplish while here?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: You know, this year is the 70 anniversary of the U.N.
I think the 70th anniversary because of that, I think the world has the best 70 years. I concluded that because we are much healthier. There were no big wars, and people much educated, and we had a good 70 years. I hope for a good 70 years again.
CHARLIE ROSE: How's your relationship with Russia?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Very good. We used to live next to each other for centuries. One time Mongolia was a big power. And now I think there is no disputes -- no political disputes, no border disputes, no territorial disputes.
CHARLIE ROSE: Has the transition to democracy been easy?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: I think the transition to democracy was very challenging. We took very challenging way. But it's the natural way. We have to do that.
CHARLIE ROSE: You are a nomadic country?
CHARLIE ROSE: And what does that mean for you?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: I was born and raised in a nomadic family. I was born and raised in a shepherd family. And now, my family means -- it carries the way of Mongolia we live -- our culture, our tradition, our history and also independent way of life, and we like freedom.
CHARLIE ROSE: You love freedom.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes. We love freedom.
CHARLIE ROSE: -- to create freedom.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes. At the end of 1989, that was a very cold winter.
During that time, there was the fall of the Berlin Wall. There was the uprising in Tiananmen Square.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: But there at the center we had organized big demonstrations in Mongolia. And I was the moderator of that demonstration, first moderator.
CHARLIE ROSE: You were the moderator.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Moderator of that demonstration.
CHARLIE ROSE: How old were you?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: During that time, I was 26 years old.
CHARLIE ROSE: So you played a role in the new Mongolia?
CHARLIE ROSE: and what do you hope for Mongolia? What is the ambition for your country?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: You know, to make every Mongolian to have their right to have their right to exercise. And I believe in our people's ability. I believe in our people's freedom. Once people have that freedom, once people have that right, I think people exercise their ingenuity. They are more creative.
When people have more freedom, they are more creative. You're your people are more creative, your country is going to be more prosperous.
CHARLIE ROSE: I asked President Putin what he most admired about America and he said creativity and freedom.
CHARLIE ROSE: You would say the same thing.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes, same thing. You know, some countries can offer a good wine.
CHARLIE ROSE: A good wine.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: But America can offer freedom.
CHARLIE ROSE: And a good wine.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Also good wine, yes.
CHARLIE ROSE: But the relationship with America is good as well?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes. Since the inception of our democratic movement, actually America supported us, but it was our country born movement. In June 1990 we had James Baker.
CHARLIE ROSE: James Baker -- the former secretary of state.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes, former secretary of state came to Mongolia and he said, "We will support you. We will support your choice for freedom, for democracy."
CHARLIE ROSE: How can they support it? What can the United States do to further your ambitions as a democracy?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: I think only that's enough support morally. The kind of cultural or value connection is very important. And once you have that freedom -- I think usually freedom, human rights is not only for the western countries. It's every man entitled to it. Every man can enjoy it, even in Mongolia.
CHARLIE ROSE: How would you define the role of the United States in your region? What do you expect from the United States?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Very important role. You know, we have two big neighbors, the Republic of China and Russia Federation. I think in the coming years the relationship between the United States of America and China or Russia is I think going to be the defining moment.
CHARLIE ROSE: The U.S. relationship between China and Russia will be defining in your region?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes. That's right.
CHARLIE ROSE: And what are your expectations? That they will somehow find common ground for the future rather than -- there certainly will be competition but you hope there will not be adversaries?
70 years of the anniversary of the U.N., we had here Putin, also President Xi Jinping, and I was there in the U.N. headquarters.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes, Pope Francis, and I listened to their speeches and they were quite promising.
President Xi Jinping's speech was very substantive, very promising speech, and President Putin also gave his stand, very clear stand what he think about the world affairs.
CHARLIE ROSE: Did you send troops to Iraq?
CHARLIE ROSE: And what made that -- how did you come to that decision?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: You know, we were in Iraq in the 1400s and 1500s, also, 1300s. We ruled Iraq and Iran, Persia, for two centuries. Our Huns.
CHARLIE ROSE: The Mongolian empire.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: The Mongolian empire. The mighty Mongolian empire -- biggest land empire that ever existed on the earth.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes. It covered all of Russia, part of Europe and China, India, Great Mongol Empire and also Persian Empire.
CHARLIE ROSE: And who were the most famous leaders of that empire?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Of course Genghis Khan and Kublai Khan and you know, in Persia they were the Ilkhan and Sultani Muhammad and Mongolia built first observatory there. They built first hospitals, first universities. I was in Iran. I met Ayatollah Khamenei.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: And he said he's really grateful for the Mongolia, for Mongolian Empire. During that (inaudible) our kings choose to make the Shia religion their main religion.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: During Mongolian empire -- that became the main religion in Persia.
CHARLIE ROSE: And the main religion in Mongolia.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Our main religion in Mongolia was Buddhism and originally, of course, our religion is related with which is called shamanism.
CHARLIE ROSE: And how about you?
CHARLIE ROSE: You're a Buddhist. Yes. And what does that mean in terms of how you see life?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: You know, it's very peaceful, and you are the owner of your destiny. That's how I see.
CHARLIE ROSE: Yes. That's the central tenet of Buddhism, you are the owner of your destiny?
CHARLIE ROSE: How much conflict or accommodation is there with North Korea?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: You know, we have -- Mongolia have a unique position in our relation with North Korea. We have our embassy there and also we have our diplomatic relations with South Korea. I was in North Korea actually after my second term. My first country to visit, it was North Korea. And I asked, you know, to go to the detention centers or to go to the Kim Jong-Il University to give lecture. And they say no detention center, you can go to the Kim Jong-Il University, you can give a lecture. And I gave lecture titled "No dictatorship lasts forever".
CHARLIE ROSE: No dictatorship lasts forever. And how did they like that?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: They received it well.
CHARLIE ROSE: You got applause from the students?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes, from the students.
CHARLIE ROSE: But you're saying to them because it's a dictatorship, you cannot live forever.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes. I said, you know, countries better off. When countries make colonization, when countries give more power, more rights to your people, it's better.
And you know Mongolia was one of the most isolated communist regimes in the world, and now one of the most open, vibrant, democratic regime in the world.
CHARLIE ROSE: Now South Korea has a huge technology base now. Have you been able to achieve a technology base in Mongolia?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes. One thing that makes our countries -- one thing makes us more equal is technology.
CHARLIE ROSE: Yes, it is a great equalizer.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: It's a great equalizer. You know, roughly in Mongolia we have three million people, but five million mobile phone users.
CHARLIE ROSE: Three million people and five million mobile phone users?
CHARLIE ROSE: It's almost two for every person.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes. We have a non-censorship media and we have non- censorship on Facebook, not on Twitter.
CHARLIE ROSE: On Twitter and Facebook.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes, everything is free. We have a public media, we have a private media in Mongolia.
CHARLIE ROSE: What is the biggest revenue source?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Biggest revenue source is mining.
CHARLIE ROSE: What mining? What do you mine?
CHARLIE ROSE: I bet you China buys a lot of that, doesn't it.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes. We have a border with China 4,700 kilometers-long land border with China.
CHARLIE ROSE: Yes. And has the decline in growth of their economy affected your economy?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes, that's right.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes, it has. Because of that, we have to produce more in Mongolia. We have to make more processing, more factories in Mongolia. You know, we have 1.5 million square kilometers of land, three million people, 60 million cattle -- that's the numbers.
CHARLIE ROSE: How many cattle?
CHARLIE ROSE: Three million people have 60 million cattle?
CHARLIE ROSE: Wow -- 60 million cattle for three million people.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: 20 heads, yes.
CHARLIE ROSE: All to what purpose? Because it produces beef?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: It produces beef, and 40 percent of our people still pursuing a nomadic way of life.
CHARLIE ROSE: I know some Wall Street types who have invested in Mongolia, whether it's in copper or mining or other areas of your economy. Are they nervous now, investors in Mongolia, because of the decline in the growth of China which has the impact on you?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: I think they are somehow nervous, but one thing is in Mongolia's good because we have an open society.
CHARLIE ROSE: An open society.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Transparent society. We learn from our mistakes. You know one thing is great, because the freedom is great, I think you can learn it. If in communist style, if you make a mistake it might be your last mistake. But in a democracy, the open society you can learn, you can address, you can fix it, and that's good. And we are cooperating with our investors, with our people.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: It is good. Now, it's taken -- the contract is already signed means the underground mining is going to do well.
CHARLIE ROSE: Are there other -- when you look forward you've got technology, you have a strategic location because of the border you said you share with China and Russia. You've got democracy.
CHARLIE ROSE: You have trade.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: One thing why I am hopeful for Mongolia's progress because of our openness. When you have a lot of (inaudible) if you have a bad (inaudible) sometimes country in trouble.
But open countries usually do better. You see Australia, you see Canada, you see other countries -- those are the open countries. Mongolia is an open country. Because of that, we learn. If you make mistakes, we can fix that and we can improve it with our partners. That's our hope. Mongolia is not ruled by one man or one family. Ruled by the people.
CHARLIE ROSE: It's ruled by the people.
CHARLIE ROSE: You seem to have a very strong antipathy to totalitarianism.
CHARLIE ROSE: And dictatorships and anything that impedes freedom.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: I like freedom. I love freedom. You know, freedom is courage. I think fighting for freedom is courage.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes, courage. It's spirit. It's not promise, it's not law. It's courage.
CHARLIE ROSE: Do you travel a lot? You said you've come to the United Nations. You've been to Pyongyang.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes, Pyongyang. I was in European Union, delivered my speech in the European Parliament.
CHARLIE ROSE: What did you tell them?
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: I told them how we transformed our country within one generation, within single generation from a communist regime to most open country. I just told them our story, that's it.
CHARLIE ROSE: I mean that really is what you do. You tell the Mongolian story.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes, we tell the Mongolian story. We are trying to advance that.
CHARLIE ROSE: Thank you for coming to this table.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Thank you very much.
CHARLIE ROSE: It's a pleasure to have you here.
TSAKHIAGIIN ELBEGDORJ: Yes. Thank you for having me here.
CHARLIE ROSE: We'll be right back. Stay with us.


I've been a fan of the early industrial scene and sounds since I was a teenager in the late 80's early 90's. Throbbing Gristle were at the forefront and Chris Carter's synthesizer work has always been largely, if not wholly DIY, and his sounds have always had that edge and grit or 'gristle' if you will, that defined the genre.
I always loved that he built his own synths from the beginning and now he has his own line of eurorack style modules, The Gristleizer line.
In the video below you can watch Chris do a short set with his new line of modules that will actually be available to the public. In the video following that is a rig rundown and a chat about the line with a couple of the developers who helped design and build them. From what I can tell, this is just the beginning and there will be more of these to come, very exciting!
These were shot by DivKid who has an excellent youtube channel that covers the modular world in depth. His is an excellent resource for checking out gear demos and modular events around the UK. He also has a way of making this heady topic make sense and he does it in a way that is engaging and unpretentious, go check him out!


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