Aha. Too bad squiddies don't spawn above sea level – that would make for a fun build without all the fill-in work.
It's in a chunk that's never going away and not much going on so far. Plus it's a cool spot.
Good looking area. The ponds would have to be filled in, and a good underground search for caverns, mines, etc. and their accompanying puddles would have to be undertaken.
Still, I'm willing to wait until we trim. No sense going to all the work if the ocean south of the trap is suddenly filled in with *ahem* desert!
I can fill water with sand. I would be happy to help. Just give me the landmarks that are my fill points and I'll use admin majiks to help!
Any objections to this trim (x2 chunks around CC + the populated legs)?
I might do a quick thing in the area between the + signs and don't want to waste time if it's going away.
Also, 1.12.1 is out.... any timeline on moving to Terracotta World? Bueller?
I object! I spent a lot of time building those + signs.
I have no objections to it. I'm kinda waiting on Brad to make it back to the game to help with this. He built the tool to do the trim, I don't know it at all.
Eh, screw it. I'm tearing down the towers and we'll replace them with something else come the new seed. New seeds are more fun anyways!
I kept a few chunks of the ocean I need E of the museum, plus the Mooshroom Isle because it fit so nicely into a chunk and it's fun to go out there at night and mooshcow-tip.
While we wait, could we just update the current world to 1.12.1? There's no real biome updates besides parrots that would keep us from needing to wait for a trim, so whenever Brad is available he can do his thing. The texture pack is updated for 1.12, so why not? There's going to be a slow week or so anyways for those of us waiting on our rows of fiery furnaces. Lots of blocks to cook.
I'll look at getting the new CentOS 7 ANMC machine built running 1.12.1 this week. It is already running, as you have seen, just not with our seed going in it.
The thing is, there are some backend changes that really make a difference with how we administer the server. Sadly, this means it's not just a flip of the switch. I'll start making it happen though.
Well, no rush really since there's not a lot of us on at the moment, but it would be nice to have the new blocks to play with.
Thanks again for everything, T.
Go to anmc.dyndns.org:25566 with your client and 1.12.1 as the version. All I did was copy the world files to the server running 1.12 originally and just upgraded to .1.
This world is going to go away so don't build much but please do test it.
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Parrots look cool covering my roof. Yes, I went into creative and use a spawn egg.
Please, do not tell my child about parrots!
But they are so cute! Give them seeds and they are your friend for life...I think.
The recipe book still opens up if you click to the left of the grid, so it's not a game-breaker or anything. Other than that everything seems to be woking and looking great.
For some reason I thought Brad had fixed that. I recall him fixing something he discovered in the resource pack that needed to be updated.
Aha, found it. It's fixed in Brad's pack v1.12b, server is running Brad's pack v1.12a.
Fixed. Also added the sha1 sum so it is "verified".
Sooo..... Any downside to just upgrading the current world to 1.12.1 with a shave and a haircut later? Test world seems to be stable and working fine.
Too busy to play right now, but I second Grey's request.
Ok, sounds like a plan. One day you will try to log in with the old 1.11 client and it won't work. I'll try to make that day tomorrow.
I still have issues to resolve on the backend though. Backups being a prime example. While we shouldn't need them, the ability to restore is a big deal.
Maps might also be an issue. I'm not sure how compatible with 1.12 the program I use is.
Looks like I found the script Brad was using to prune the maps. Now I just need to know the chunks that need to be saved. Any chance you have to coordinates of the chunks you want added handy? I'm going to use this tool to make sure I keep the right files.
kscherer, I am going to go ahead and prune the oceans near your squid spawner and see what forms near it this time. That is, once I know the chunks to keep. I'll help with admin stuff to replace water with sand or air.
OK, I went around and found the spots. World is trimmed like in this image.
Very cool, T. I'm glad you figured it out, not least of all for world file size.
I went over to check out the spot near Ken's trap, and it's ocean. Then I went over to the S portal and it's ocean/jungle. Pretty sure it's the same seed as 1.11 (don't know if you were changing the seed outside the trim or not).
I didn't change the seed though I see no reason why we can't and just run the trim again.
What are your thoughts? New seed for fun?
New seeds are always fun!
Chant 'no whammies' and mash the numbers row on the keyboard for a seed.
Ok, trimmed and new seed. I went with an md5 hash of something. Very random to me.
Hmm. That one didn't stick. Checked out the NW portal, and while the tower was gone, it was still the 1.11 seed.


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Thanks! What do you think of the DT blending? Better than before?
I love jagged mountains though, curious what that looks like from the ground. And I also like that wall.
Yeah ... it's almost like they didn't use the same types of terrain paint available. I didn't like the seams so I tried to disguise it with the mountains. And yes I agree they look weird from above. Here's some shots of it from the ground (I'm assuming this is the mountain you're referring to)... I don't know that I really like it a whole lot, but wasn't sure what else to do with it. The DT is pretty high in the background.
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I especially like the mountains on your last picture. They blend in perfectly in the landscape.
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I've been working on this still, I just don't have any new pictures to post, really ... I've added a lot of empty lots, but there's not really a good way to show a screen shot of empty lots! Especially since you can't take a screenshot from Edit Town mode.
I have many ideas for some more multi-family type housing I want to build, but I know it'll take a long time and it seems like a daunting task whenever I think about it! I think I will place some of the ready made homes in some of the residential lots that I don't want to be twins or row homes (also have an idea for an apartment complex. I laid out the lots, built parking lots, and set a lot for a community yard/room kinda thing).
Awesome! I've only ever made one world - I think it took me about 6 months to complete, I was so enthusiastic at the beginning but it became a chore by the end of it (I am a person with very little patience).
You seem to be progressing well with yours, you must be putting a lot of time into it already!
Hey, that looks pretty nice! All the trees get annoying to place!
I'm quickly realizing that unless I use a lot of pre made houses, it'll become a huge chore to finish all of them!
One problem I'm having is not knowing which rabbit holes I need to include ... I guess if I forget something, they just won't be able to do that particular job.
Well that did it, you've inspired me to give CAW a try! First I read through that marvelous waterfall tutorial and now I see your interesting results as you work on it all. I love your concept of mixed urban/rural -ish residential areas and I adore your wilderness area. As another poster said its very dense, which makes it deliciously mysterious. I see that the terrain view seams can be troubling to blend in. Your retaining wall was clever! Oh what am I getting myself in to? Some fun, I hope Keep going, it looks great to me!
Are you making your world to share or just for yourself? If you are sharing, have you thought about whether to make it base-game only or with just some eps or all eps? If it was base game only then you would need less rabbitholes and you could leave some empty Lots for people who have the eps to fill up.
I did want to share it, yes ... It's probably already too late to just be base-game only. Won't it just replace stuff that's not there?
I should read the waterfall tutorial, mine is kind of weird when you are close up!
Thanks, I like the urban-ish areas too. I feel that there aren't enough worlds like that. It all started when I made my apartments & roommates mod and started having Sims rent houses - and I wanted them to be close together, and all the lots in every world I had played were so far apart. The areas I want to look like that, I made them as close together as possible with just a sidewalk width in between, and then I will build to the edges. I like the look.
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If you want a water are on a lot to have low level Salt Water fish them use the Salt Water indicator in the lot.
The weird thing that I wasn't expecting about the water is that I had a sim down at the "shore line" (just to see if they could route there) and then I told him to go somewhere farther away ... a boat spawned and he went boating down the river! So random and cool at the same time!
Oh, okay. I'll stay quiet.
No, I like your suggestions / tips!
I can not wait to try out the world once it is done!
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I'm keeping my eye on this world, too - and smart guy for listening to Rflong's tips - she has been world-building since CAW first came out, and has built many, many wonderful worlds!
My main thing to add here is that it doesn't matter if you forget some rabbit holes as long as you leave empty lots (or flat spaces next to roads where we can add lots). Once the world is "done", we can then add in any missing rabbit holes. Even if worse comes to worse and there aren't lots big enough for some rabbit holes, many of us have Lunar Lakes - a world that came with little (and I mean little) rabbit holes for Sims to step into a subterranean (presumably) workplace. Those particular rabbit holes only take up a 2 x 2 space, if I recall correctly.
Hey, that's a good idea! I don't have Lunar Lakes and never realized the RH's were that small ... are they like the RH rugs?
They probably work along that same principle. They look sort of like mini-futuristic-towers - lol - my description probably doesn't help much.
They do look very futuristic but maybe there's a possibility to hide them?
Well now you can find out & I hope its useful to you in your world-building journey!
I know other world builders have put Rabbitholes in basements before.
It may be too high for that though... Maybe it's wiser to check out the CC rabbithole rugs.
Sometimes the problems I have with rabbit holes is not knowing what they're going to be in game! The descriptions aren't clear sometimes. Some of mine don't eve have a description - not sure why!


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