Which of these hands is the better for an opening bid, and why?
I would be happy to open the first hand 1S. It meets the Rule of 20 and I can deal with any response by rebidding 2H asking partner to give preference.
The second hand is not worth 10 HCP in my book because of the two singleton kings. I would rate it at 8 HCP so it does not meet the Rule of 20. In 1st, 2nd or 3rd seat I would prefer to pass, hoping to overcall spades or bid Landy or Michaels. In the passout seat I would borrow a king and open 1S.
Although both hands are shapely they both have a significant weakness - with only 10 HCPs each they both have six of those points in the short suits. Conversely they have very few points in the five and six-card suits. The AQ of diamonds in the first hand and the singleton kings in the second hand are likely to be as useful in defence as when playing the contract (possibly more useful in defence). For this reason I would tend to be cautious.
Some aggressive players might open either hand, but I would probably pass both.
Just run both hands through Jack. Jack passed both in any seat.


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#1 by mehnsrea // Jan 22, 2023 - 9:32am
Bengals & Cowboys win outright. No neutral site next week. And Eagles-Cowboys is a good as it gets. The inevitable Reid vs. Eagles matchup awaits.
#3 by Aaron Brooks G… // Jan 22, 2023 - 10:23am
In reply to Bengals & Cowboys win… by mehnsrea
Bengals-49ers III is still on the table.
Although after last year it's basically Hotel California.
#11 by IlluminatusUIUC // Jan 22, 2023 - 1:34pm
In reply to Bengals-49ers III is still… by Aaron Brooks G…
So is Cowboys-Bills III
#5 by OmahaChiefs13 // Jan 22, 2023 - 12:55pm
Going into this weekend, the match up most Chiefs fans wanted was Cincinnati, and not just due to location.
There's a sense that even though they're built to be a unique challenge for us, we can beat the Bengals. We just....don't.
Sooner than later, that'll change, and the AFCCG would be a sweet place to do it.
Of course, that all predicates a healthy Patrick Mahomes. This morning, I'm not sure who most of us would rather see, given that "can we just play JAX again?" isn't a viable option.
#2 by Tutenkharnage // Jan 22, 2023 - 9:56am
Had the Bills won their Week 17 contest against the Bengals, they would be taking today off to watch KC-Cincinnati, since they would have disposed of an overmatched Jaguars team yesterday. The Bills lost more than anyone from that game's cancellation, and the NFL handled it consistently: teams that played the same number of games were treated the same.
Points: -6
#4 by ImNewAroundThe… // Jan 22, 2023 - 11:43am
In reply to Had the Bills won their Week… by Tutenkharnage
The Bills lost more than anyone from that game's cancellation
That's just not true. The Bengals had a 4 point lead and were in your territory (aka likely to win) but then they were eliminated from the 1 seed from a no contest. There's a reason Bengals complained but Bills didnt.
#7 by Tutenkharnage // Jan 22, 2023 - 1:05pm
In reply to The Bills lost more than… by ImNewAroundThe…
Yeah, you're right: a Cincinnati team that basically didn't show up for the entire first half against Tampa, didn't show up for the entire second half against New England, and needed a miracle play to beat Tyler Huntley at home … that team was a lock to beat a Bills team that has given up early touchdowns to a lot of teams this year before locking them out. A lock! Got it.
#19 by ImNewAroundThe… // Jan 22, 2023 - 2:28pm
In reply to Yeah, you're right: a… by Tutenkharnage
Double reply rage posting (instead of editing) on "likely to win" despite never saying "lock" and their win probability was literally 63.5% at the point of stoppage.
#135 by ImNewAroundThe… // Jan 22, 2023 - 6:12pm
In reply to Double reply rage posting … by ImNewAroundThe…
And that's why getting a TD first, and driving into opponent with a multi point lead, maaaaay have lead a team "likely to win"
And the Bengals did it on the road this time! Yeah, I think there was healthy chance they would've pulled it off on that MNF
Yeah, there's a reason they complained about it: they run their mouths. Like, a lot. Case in point: Joe Mixon blathering about the NFL selling tickets to a potential Chiefs-Bills game as "disrespect."
That's just not true. The Bengals had a 4 point lead and were in your territory (aka likely to win)
At the time the game stopped, the Bills and Bengals had run 19 combined plays. 19 plays don't really establish anything.
but then they were eliminated from the 1 seed from a no contest
They were eliminated from the 1 seed when Kansas City beat Vegas, same as we were.
#13 by Bryan Knowles // Jan 22, 2023 - 1:46pm
In reply to That's just not true. The… by IlluminatusUIUC
With the way things broke in Week 18:
If the Bengals had won, it would have been Chiefs #1, Bengals #2, Bills #3
If the Bills had won, it would have been Bills #1, Chiefs #2, Bengals #3
#15 by OmahaChiefs13 // Jan 22, 2023 - 1:52pm
Everybody seems to forget a very basic point with seeding: any particular playoff seeding doesn't actually exist until all the games have been played (or all but 1 team have been mathematically eliminated from a particular seed), week 1 losses count the same as week 17 losses (after accounting for divisoon and conference), and there's no primacy of ownership given to the most recent team to have the lead for it.
It's easy to see why...sites and broadcasts start posting "if the season ended today" graphics as early as late October. It's easy to think of the 1 seed as a trophy that gets awarded to the first team to take a lead that then gets passed back and forth as one team or another takes the lead.
But it's not. Buffalo didn't have the 1 seed going into that Cincinnati game, because the 1 seed didn't exist yet...not all games had been played, and other competing teams hadn't been eliminated yet. Nothing got "taken away from them" yet, because the thing didn't actually exist.
They were in a position of having a mathematical lead toward earning it, and they were the most recent team to hold that distinction. But neither of those things are meaningful when it actually got awarded....it got awarded to the team with the best winning percentage once all games had been played. As designed.
I understand why it feels like it "got taken away" to Buffalo fans (or those sympathetic to them). But this is a case where the way it feels isn't the way things actually are.
Because it was a no contest.
There's really not any argument Buffalo was more screwed than Cincy.
#43 by Run dmc // Jan 22, 2023 - 4:14pm
Cincy did get screwed but not for the #1 Seed ... they never had a shot at the #1 Seed if KC beat the Raiders which they did. They got screwed by not having a chance to win the #2 Seed ... a coin should have been flipped for that based on the NFL logic regarding the AFC North race.
In reply to Cincy did get screwed but… by Run dmc
Before that. They didn't have a shot because there was no contest. If they had played and won (oh and lookie there, having a multi point lead driving in enemy territory is a good signal for winning) they, yes, could've gotten the 1 seed if LV won. But a no contest halved their chance for the 2 seed.
Even if LV beat KC there was 0 way Bengals could've gotten the 1 seed with a no contest (or loss, which wasn't in their favor at the time of the injury)
#6 by OmahaChiefs13 // Jan 22, 2023 - 1:01pm
The Bills lost more than anyone from that game's cancellation, and the NFL handled it consistently: teams that played the same number of games were treated the same.
Only if you look at gross loss rather than net benefit.
What they lost has to be balanced by what they gained: that is, removing the requirement to play one of the most dangerous teams on their schedule, one they were required to play by virtue of having won their division in 2021, and the consequences of potentially losing that game.
You noted what they lost had they beaten Cincinnati. Here's what they gained by not losing to them:
No having to travel to Cincinnati today after having watched KC beat Jacksonville yesterday anyway.
When looking at net losses and gains, it's really tough to say Buffalo came off worst.
#16 by Aaron Brooks G… // Jan 22, 2023 - 2:01pm
In reply to The Bills lost more than… by OmahaChiefs13
You struck and nearly killed an opposing player, and are now complaining you were not allowed to disproportionately benefit from it.
Points: -15
#21 by rh1no // Jan 22, 2023 - 3:00pm
In reply to You struck and nearly killed… by Aaron Brooks G…
That's just disingenuous. Damar Hamlin suffered a freak accident while attempting to tackle the Cincinnati ball carrier. The best possible outcome was achieved: Damar Hamlin survived and the game was rightfully canceled put of respect for the players.
The NFL should have moved forward with the rules already in place, determining division winners, playoff seeds, and hone field advantage by win %; this would have disadvantaged Buffalo, Cincinnati, and Baltimore equally while also providing all of them with the opportunity to rest starters and avoid injuries in the final week of the season. Instead, the NFL rushed through a vote to change the rules in such a way that would never be approved if it disadvantaged one of the league's premier, major media market teams the way it disadvantaged Cincinnati.
Bengals fans have reason to be cranky about the rule change. Bill fans, too. But we all have reason to be thankful that we get to argue about this dumb rule change instead of reflecting on a game that cost a player his life.
What's in the past is in the past. Let's play the game and watch the better team win. WHO DEY!
I did not. Neither did my team. Both were on the couch watching.
C'mon man...everybody always assumes my positions based on username, let it work FOR me for a change 😀
In reply to I did not. Neither did my… by OmahaChiefs13
There's room for one more on the Bengals bandwagon! Hop on board...
In reply to There's room for one more on… by rh1no
I'd like to beat you at least the once first.
Consistency would mean applying the rules as written at the beginning of the year. Making up two sets of rules based on how many games you have played 94% of the way through the season isn't my definition of consistency
#56 by MHaddad9 // Jan 22, 2023 - 4:38pm
You realize they were going to lose that game, right? From what I saw than and today, Cincy is the better team.
#9 by big10freak // Jan 22, 2023 - 1:10pm
Whatever happens in Bills/Bengals a Cincinnati fan has to like the regular season progression under its coach
2-14 31st (DVOA)
4-11-1 30th
10-7 17th
12-4 5th
In reply to Whatever happens in Bills… by big10freak
They should like it.
The beginning of the season, there was a lot of noise about Taylor needing fired.
I get it...fans gonna fan...but it's hard to argue much with the results.
#17 by NYChem // Jan 22, 2023 - 2:07pm
In reply to They should like it. The… by OmahaChiefs13
Taylor has the millstone (joking) of Burrow around his neck. When a coach improves with a great QB, its always a question of how good he is versus how lucky he is. See Belichek and Tomlin for reference. But also see EVERY Chargers coach since the beginning of Dan Fouts as the counter reference.
I don't see Taylor as being an excellent coach, as a Steelers fan I am hoping for evidence he is more Marvin Lewis than Sean Payton, but until proven otherwise, the win progression shown above suggests he, at the very least, should NOT be fired.
To be fair to Taylor, the Bengals got off to a slow start because Burrow was recovering from a serious appendectomy and the new offensive lineman had been unable to practice together in preseason due to their own injuries.
However, Taylor's game plans early in the season were pretty terrible, ESPECIALLY considering the state of our QB and O-line. He called too-cute-by-half blocking schemes that would have been difficult for an experienced unit to pull off, leading to too many sacks and pressures on Burrow. Bengals fans were right to complain about the coaching.
Like the rest of the team, Taylor appears to be learning and improving. Bengals fans are ecstatic at the continued improvement, and I think we've learned to trust this coach and these playmakers to continue progressing.
#18 by Rufus R. Jones // Jan 22, 2023 - 2:16pm
Like all teams, we'll see if it is sustained once they start paying a QB. Things become much more difficult. Until proven otherwise, I still don't think Zac Taylor is in the upper echelon of coaches.
In reply to Like all teams, we'll see if… by Rufus R. Jones
Even if we assume they win out and include the playoff wins, he'd still be below .500.
Of course a SB is nice but I'm not sure we can say he's for sure good. I will say that having patience can be good though!
Daquon Jones suddenly being out for Buffalo is a sneaky loss, he really anchored the run defense. Hopefully Phillips is healed up enough to play some meaningful snaps, otherwise that's a lot of Tim Settle.
#22 by Tutenkharnage // Jan 22, 2023 - 3:02pm
Fingers crossed that the refs are on the lookout for cheap shots like the kind Hurst and Hendrickson delivered last month to Taron Johnson and Josh Allen, respectively.
#23 by big10freak // Jan 22, 2023 - 3:06pm
I guess getting run over but causing the rb to fall counts as a tackle. Ha, ha
Goodness. Did Chase blend into the snow and the defenders lost him?
This could be one hell of a game once Buffalo's defense comes up from the locker room.
Would have been a TD if they had connected. Bengals got lucky there
Buffalo uses Taron Johnson and the linebackers interchangeably, so far Cincy has been shifting around to force the backers to act as a slot corner and Johnson to act as a backer and having good results.
In reply to Buffalo uses Taron Johnson… by IlluminatusUIUC
Great insight!
The Bengals coaches do a good job of shifting the recivers between split, flanker, and slot. IDK much about Buffalo's defenders, but Cincy's offensive scheme has worked about as well as anyone could have hoped so far. Even on our last drive, we didn't stall out because of the coverage; we had receivers in space but Burrow couldn't get the passes where they needed to be.
Clever design. Rarely see a guy get that open in the end zone on a red zone play. Normally things so clogged.
In reply to Clever design. Rarely see a… by big10freak
Milano AND Poyer pulled towards Chase, the man draws eyeballs
#42 by DoubleB // Jan 22, 2023 - 4:13pm
In reply to Milano AND Poyer pulled… by IlluminatusUIUC
Chase doesn't need 3 guys to handle him on a slip screen. That's just shitty defense by Buffalo.
Bengals rusher blew past the Bills tackle like he was stuck in concrete
That was a nice catch by 16. Just snatched a wet ball out of the air
#35 by Cythammer // Jan 22, 2023 - 3:37pm
Hmm. So far this isn't the great game it looked like it might be. Buffalo finally getting a stop is a step in the right direction at least.
Zzzzz. This game is an example of why the idea that more scoring necessarily makes for a more exciting game is wrong. Cincinnati going down the field with little resistance is boring.
Wow. Double coverage and still makes it happen
In reply to Wow. Double coverage and… by big10freak
Man I think that is a TD. But I guess they will overturn
Romo said the one key thing. Defenses can't play zone because defenders can't find their footing to catch up. I'll be curious if Frazier figures this out before the game ends.
In reply to Romo said the one key thing… by DoubleB
NARRATOR: He didn't.
Cincy on pass rush looks like they are maintaining rush lanes to pinch Allen
Why is Tony crediting Allen when Diggs made a fabulous catch??
Can't punt there. You've had little success stopping the Bengals. You are also only barely outside of FG range and have every chance to score a TD before the half if you convert.
In reply to Can't punt there. You've had… by Cythammer
Really? I think you have to punt there. 4th and 10 is tough and you're basically handing another FG to Cincinnati in that field position. I think it's realistic to get a stop here.
Buffalo starts the half with the ball as well.
In reply to Really? I think you have to… by DoubleB
The Bengals almost got into FG position anyway. The Bills need points in this game. Down by 10 and having barely slowed down the Bengals on offense, they have to be aggressive on offense. I would consider going for a fourth and ten even if they were from their own 30.
In reply to The Bengals almost got into… by Cythammer
But they didn't. The Bills have been a nightmare on defense and Frazier's plan clearly hasn't adjusted to the weather. They got to the half down 10 with the ball to start. Get to the half, hopefully adjust and play better in the 2nd half.
If they don't fix their issues, it really doesn't matter what happened at the end of the 1st half.
In reply to But they didn't. The Bills… by DoubleB
Yeah, and the Bills didn't score. You had the ball down at the 41 of your opponent and got nothing. You can't do that and expect to win in any game, much less one when you are down by 10 and offering little resistance on defense. Play to win the game, not hang vaguely around and keep the loss a smaller margin.
Buffalo hasn't stopped the Bengals, but they have slowed them. Cincy is picking up yards in smaller chunks, which ain't great overall but with less than a minute and 2 timeouts then a long field was enough to defend.
Had they failed on 4th and 10 Cincy may have well scored to make it 20 or 24 to 7. In this case I am not sure the analytics is taking into account how efficient the Bengals offense has been in the first half.
Not much of a contest in the first half. Buffalo is probably lucky it's even this close. I think the TD overturn was correct, but regardless, Cincinnati was just barely stopped from being up a full 14 and in even greater control.
Credit in the extreme to the backups on O line for Cincy who have done a great job.
In reply to Credit in the extreme to the… by big10freak
Quick throws and it's harder to rush the passer when you can't get great footing.
In reply to Quick throws and it's harder… by DoubleB
There have been multiple plays where the protection had to last. And let's not diminish guys coming off the bench facing a great team in the playoffs.
In reply to There have been multiple… by big10freak
But it's easier when the throws are out and the DL can't always get their footing.
#54 by occams_pointed… // Jan 22, 2023 - 4:34pm
I didn't see a reason to overturn that TD. It is supposed to be clear when you overturn the call.
In reply to I didn't see a reason to… by occams_pointed…
Which is a terrible rule, frankly. What qualifies as clear is far from clear.
In reply to Which is a terrible rule,… by Cythammer
You don't change the rules mid-season.
Unless the Bills would benefit
It was a touchdown catch in my heart but not in the NFL rulebook.
Chase was going to the ground, so he had to maintain control throughout the process. Even though he got a third foot down, it wasn't enough to establish him as a runner.
It was a classic "complete the catch" call. It's a stupid rule, but the receiver didn't keep control as he went down. And he was lying out of bounds.
I don't know why the NFL requires receivers to keep control going to the ground after they've established possession and clearly have two feet in bounds.
In reply to It was a classic "complete… by RickD
Yeah, it looked like Chase went down on his own in order to avoid any sort of hit. If he'd stayed on his feet and the defender had knocked the ball out of his hands, it would have been a catch. Weird inconsistency in the definition of a catch.
Great work by Allen
Allen keeps making plays. Goodness
Tony kind of mentioned it when calling out the D discipline by Cincy but really it's the d-line continuing to get a push but rarely letting Allen get the edge. If he's going to run he has to come up the middle and risk getting creamed
Huge drive for the Bills coming up. That defense has to show up for just about the first time all day or Cincinnati will be getting close to putting this one in a stranglehold.
Not looking for a flag but thought you couldn't go that low on qb? And know it was not intentional
#76 by apocalipstick // Jan 22, 2023 - 5:08pm
In reply to Not looking for a flag but… by big10freak
In the CFL that's an automatic flag, but not in the NFL.
Burn a timeout and you still give up the third down conversion. Terrible game for the Bills defense.
In reply to Burn a timeout and you still… by Cythammer
Frazier didn't adjust to the weather and footing. Romo figured it out in the first quarter.
I get the Bills may not have the horses in the secondary right now to go man, but what he's doing now is clearly not working. At some point, you have to figure it out and adjust. And about to be down 14 late in the 3rd seems a late.
Bills still in zone at key points. Frazier didn't adjust. Bengals will win unless they implode.
In reply to Bills still in zone at key… by DoubleB
To be fair to Frazier, I think the Bills get smoked if they try to play man against these Bengals receivers.
To be fair to you, the Bills are getting smoked playing zone, so they should at least give it a shot.
In reply to To ne fair to Frazier, I… by rh1no
Bengals have 6 drives thus far: TD, TD, Punt, FG (overturned TD), Half, TD
25 first downs, 5-7 on 3rd down conversions
This is Mixon's kind of conditions. Just using his frame and strength to power thru
Think it's the correct call but somewhat surprised they called the TD since the ball was hidden from view to a degree
#87 by Spanosian Magn… // Jan 22, 2023 - 5:22pm
In reply to Think it's the correct call… by big10freak
I am too. Hopefully this signals that they will be more open to using logic to piece together the location of the ball going forward; that's long been a major frustration of mine.
The Bills have to try everything they can to score TDs on every drive from here on out. No more punting.
... But, really, unless their defense improves, even scoring on every drive won't matter.
Given the conditions, being on the road and quality of opponent Cincy has played just a really impressive game. Add in backups on the O-line and it's a stunning performance
Look I know some posters here are going to credit the footing to help the line. But the Bengals line is getting a push. So..........
The exact type of attempt that drives Packer fans nuts. You need 2 yards and the qb goes deep. And fails
In reply to The exact type of attempt… by big10freak
It hit the receiver in the hands. He drops that on a 2-yard route, too.
That punt... Yes, it's deep in your own territory. But it's two yards. If you can't get two yards, how do you expect to win the game? And have you been paying attention to what is going on with your defense?
In reply to That punt... Yes, it's deep… by Cythammer
That one you have to go for it. Also sends an FU to your defense and Frazier.
#188 by BigRichie // Jan 22, 2023 - 10:50pm
In reply to That one you have to go for… by DoubleB
Jeepers, no, Dude, absolutely the opposite. It showed faith in Frazier and your defense.
(now, as to whether THAT! was a good idea, well ... )
I tend to agree with you there. McDermott is a solid B+ coach. He can build a top team but he doesn't have the extra moves in the playoffs.
Bills coaching has to be take a lot of blame here... The defense looks utterly unprepared and repeated timid calls on fourth down are lowering their chances even further.
#129 by coltsandrew // Jan 22, 2023 - 6:01pm
In reply to Bills coaching has to be… by Cythammer
I've only watched a couple Bills games this year, but I think the biggest issue with coaching staff is that they're just too slow to adjust to what's happening in the game. In a way, it's a lot like watching the Steelers under Tomlin. Both teams are good at getting and handling talent, but their game scripts tends to be risk-averse and they don't adjust the play-calling until it's well past obvious that they need to.
Everyone on the Bills' coaching staff should be fired after this debacle.
In reply to Everyone on the Bills'… by Tutenkharnage
As a Patriots' fan, I strongly agree.
Fire the Bengals' coaches, too! And Andy Reid, while we're at it.
Even better (twirls moustache) Bills are forced to hire Matt Patricia as the new HC.
In reply to As a Patriots' fan, I… by RickD
There are rules about biological weapons.
As a Bengals fan, I'm starting to wonder whether you have my team's best interests in mind ...
#192 by Mike B. In Va // Jan 23, 2023 - 9:14am
Oh, come on. Just Frazier. That's two Divisional games he's cost us.
Obvious DPI
But brutal for the defender. Called for the penalty and then crushed by your teammate
That was one of the Billsiest plays I've ever seen. A DPI to cost us any chance at the game, combined with our two best DBs injuring each other.
In reply to That was one of the… by IlluminatusUIUC
Maybe Sean McDermott has been secretly replaced by Sean Bean.
Gene's seemingly questioning the DPI call is kind of weird. The defender grabbed the receiver multiple times
Oh boy, the Bills lose two DBs on a nasty-looking collision with each other. Insult to injury, they got called for DPI on that play too.
Back to back bad plays by JB. Should have handed off and then with his guy wide open throws high. Ouch
#95 by mehnsrea // Jan 22, 2023 - 5:30pm
Bills exposed. Major flaws on defense. Could use another receiving threat too. McDermott never was a true big time coach. He's just ok. Today he's showing why he's just ok.
In reply to Bills exposed. Major flaws… by mehnsrea
Nah, it's one game. One in unusual conditions to boot. The Bengals are an excellent team in their own right as well.
In reply to Nah, it's one game. One in… by Cythammer
I agree with the overall point, but I have to say I am surprised it's the Bills who seem to have struggled more to adjust to the conditions today. Obviously Cincinnati isn't exactly a tropical paradise, but Buffalo notoriously gets more snow than almost any major city in the US, and the Bills specifically have had a number of games in similar conditions the last few years.
The Bills peaked early in the season and haven't looked as tough since Von Miller went down.
And the play-calling today has been...questionable.
Feels like they're so used to overwhelming opponents that they are having problems winning a close game.
They're in danger of becoming the Schottenheimer Chargers at this rate. For all the talk about being Super Bowl favorites, this is yet another year of not making the Conference Championship game.
In reply to The Bills peaked early in… by RickD
"Yet another." Lol. It's been... All of two years.
Glance through the scores of the Bills and you will clearly see they've played plenty of close games this season, winning plenty too.
#158 by takeleavebelieve // Jan 22, 2023 - 7:26pm
I don't think there's anything particularly unusual about snow in Buffalo during January.
The Bills defense is basically the early career Peyton Manning offense. We have been running it so long that our guys are experts at it, but in the playoffs when teams confuse the situation we haven't been adjusting enough.
If they overturn this is why fans scream "conspiracy" Because for decades that was an obvious fumble
In reply to If they overturn this is why… by big10freak
Geez. Don't agree with that obviously
Conspiracy confirmed
#100 by DoubleB // Jan 22, 2023 - 5:39pm
One DC put together an exotic blitz to get to the QB and nearly forced a turnover. The other hasn't made an adjustment since the game started.
In reply to One DC put together an… by DoubleB
What, did they secretly replace Frazier with Spagnuolo?
In reply to What, did they secretly… by apocalipstick
If they did, can we force them to keep him?
In reply to If they did, can we force… by OmahaChiefs13
If only. I dread next week.
So many near turnovers for Bills this game. Goodness
Cincy fans with the "Who Dey" chant
See on that 4th down the rush lane discipline of the Bengals was key. Allen was clearly looking to escape but the rushers were pinching the pocket so he had to throw
Huh. Big game hunting on 4th and Season needing 6 yards.
In reply to Huh. Big game hunting on 4th… by OmahaChiefs13
No, they needed Big Game. 4th down is definitely the most promising place to get it, as there at least the defense is playing up.
That's about it.
Two games where one team didn't show up. Another moderately competitive game only kept close by the best player on the field getting injured. Cowboys-49ers is the last hope for a great game this weekend.
In reply to That's about it. Two games… by Cythammer
As someone who thinks Cincy is legit good I think this is a disservice to the Bengals. The Ravens game was more reflective of two teams that know one another literally to a player to player level.
In reply to As someone who thinks Cincy… by big10freak
I'm confused... I was talking about the three games we've seen so far this weekend.
In reply to I'm confused... I was… by Cythammer
I thought you were suggesting Buffalo didn't show up. My error
In reply to I thought you were… by big10freak
I was... I don't know what that has to do with the Ravens.
In reply to I was... I don't know what… by Cythammer
I thought pretty much all the whizerait put too much emphasis on the Ravens defense effort against Cincy. For the reason I mentioned. These two teams know each other down to the briefs worn on gameday.
Again, my mistake
He's claiming the Bengals were great, rather than the Bills didn't show up. Don't know why you find that confusing.
#118 by GwillyGecko // Jan 22, 2023 - 5:50pm
This Bills coaching staff needs to go. McDermott, Dorsey, Frazier, all of these bums. They should never lose at home like this in the playoffs, and not to a team with a backup OL. Just awful. And make sure to bring back Cole Beasley but Shakir has looked really good lately too.
Peyton Mannings 5th year ended with a 41-0 wildcard loss before his career rebounded and he finally won an MVP and eventually a SB over the next 4 years after that. So there's hope for Josh Allen but not with McDermott(he's had his five years with Allen and will never win anything)
Geez Diggs. Is that really necessary?
As a Wisconsinite full credit to Cincy coach with only a hoodie and a ballcap in this weather
Chiefs fans: First time?
It's immaterial at this point, but the Bills managing to blow all their timeouts before 7:00 in the 4th quarter is another coaching mistake today.
In reply to It's immaterial at this… by Spanosian Magn…
Wasn't at least one of those used to start stopping the clock?
In reply to Wasn't at least one of those… by Cythammer
Yeah Buffalo was down 3 scores, they were trying to preserve clock
In reply to Yeah Buffalo was down 3… by IlluminatusUIUC
Oh, it might have been. I thought I remembered two were spent on Cincy drives, presumably to head off some personnel mistake or mismatch but didn't seem to help at all, and I completely missed that they'd used the third until I saw they had none left. If they were actually trying to stop the clock that early, I honestly give them credit for being realistic about the amount of time needed to come back - usually teams wait til there's about 2 minutes left and hope for a series of quick miracles.
#147 by Anger...rising // Jan 22, 2023 - 6:41pm
Buffalo used timeouts at 7:19 and 7:08 to preserve the clock.
Heading into the playoffs, Kansas City had the best win of the season in their 44-23 shellacking of the 49ers. Of course, that was all the way back in October when Jimmy G. was still the quarterback and Shanahan was working to integrate CMC into their game plans.
Today's performance by the Bengals is even more impressive. On the road against the #1 team by DVOA (#2 in weighted DVOA) with 3 backup offensive linemen starting, and Cincinnati walked up and down the field, logging THIRTY first downs while scoring points on five of eight possessions. The Bengals defense was unexpectedly dominant, too, holding the Bills to a season-low 10 points.
Even if Patrick Mahomes were 100% healthy, I think the Bengals would be the favorite. He's going to be hobbled from his ankle sprain, giving Cincinnati an advantage they may not even need. Can't wait!
In reply to Heading into the playoffs,… by rh1no
"Even if Patrick Mahomes were 100% healthy, I think the Bengals would be the favorite."
On the road? Zero percent chance. I'm not sure Vegas will have them as favorites even with the injury.
In reply to "Even if Patrick Mahomes… by Cythammer
Looks like the Chiefs are currently favored by 2.5 points, in line with FiveThirtyEight's 2 point spread in favor of the Chiefs. It will be interesting to see how the line moves throughout the week.
Even if Patrick Mahomes were 100% healthy, I think the Bengals would be the favorite.
I understand the enthusiasm, but no, probably not.
The dynamic between the Chiefs and Bengals is much larger for the teams (and their fanbases) than for the general betting public. Doesn't make it not real, just saying it's not very big for the books yet.
At best, I think today's win would have argued for 3 to 4 points for Cincinnati on a neutral field (making it basically a pick 'em at Arrowhead), but that argument also might have lost.
With the injury, I wouldn't be surprised to see anything from a pick 'em to Cincinnati -5.5.
And that's a wrap
Go Niners.
Joe's "Better send those refunds" line of the year so far. And yes I know it's a contrived grievance. But still a funny line
I think Buffalo has made it as far as we will with McDermott/Frazier at the helm. They simply can not or will not adapt to the situation. We've seen it in the mutiple blown playoff leads and now multiple big game chokes in bad weather because they insist on running his all nickel defense no matter how well its working. I love Taron Johnson as much as anyone, but when Cincy was hammering him with offensive linemen and McDermott wouldn't change course it seems clear Allen needed to steal the game, and he didn't have it in him.

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It is hoped that access to the oil could be the "miracle cure" for their son Max's seizures. The hour-long documentary will air on Channel 4.
Though it has not been medically tested or proven, emerging evidence has shown cannabis oil to have relative success in treating seizures, though the side effects are not yet known. However, the family, alongside thousands of other UK families, are currently being refused the treatment.
With recent cases such as Billy Caldwell – who had his CBD oil confiscated upon returning from Canada, where it is legal with a prescription – making headlines, the topic is once again being debated by the public, and the documentary aims to shed light on how the oil can help those with epilepsy, and relieve their seizures.
As we previously investigated, CBD oil is a by-product of cannabis and has been thought to have therapeutic properties, including pain relief and reducing inflammation. Coming from the marijuana plant, cannabis is a class B drug in the UK, and possession can result in a 14-year jail sentence.
However, as many activists point out, the part of the marijuana plant that is illegal is not the part that the CBD oil is made of, causing dispute over whether CBD oil should be against the law or not.
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It's called the Church of Spiritual Technology — Ferndale Enterprise (California)
Source: Ferndale Enterprise (California)
The Church of Spiritual Technology, which owns some 3,000 acres in The Mattole, has a membership of 45 people; this, according to Michele Ouelette of "the Los Angeles area," who represents himself as a spokesman for the church. Those associated with the church are reluctant to speak, giving rise to rumors, many of them. The church is not L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology, as many thought, according to Ouelette, nor is it the Church of Science and Technology, as reported ...
Tag(s): Church of Spiritual Technology (CST) (dba, L. Ron Hubbard Library) • Ferndale Enterprise (California) • Jim Meadors • Membership • Michel Ouelette • Petrolia • Real estate • Vault
Special Report // Hubbard: Prophet or snake-oil salesman? — Daily Tribune (Oakland County, Michigan)
Author(s): Julie Edgar
Source: Daily Tribune (Oakland County, Michigan)
Was Lafayette Ron Hubbard, founder of Dianetics and the inspiration behind the Church of Scientology, a profoundly gifted man destined for sainthood? Or was he a fraud who routinely lied about his accomplishments in order to bilk millions from his followers? Even after his death in 1986 at the age of 75, Hubbard's writings on Scientology — often slightly updated versions of earlier "discoveries" — continue to be published and some two million followers remain faithful. The media, too, continues to ...
Tag(s): Assets • Bare-Faced Messiah: The True Story of L. Ron Hubbard (book) • Church of Scientology of California (CSC) • Daily Tribune (Oakland County, Michigan) • Fraud, lie, deceit, misrepresentation • Internal Revenue Service (IRS) • Julie Edgar • L. Ron Hubbard's credentials • Mary Sue (Whipp) Hubbard • Membership • Operation Snow White • Ronald "Nibs" Edward DeWolf (L. Ron Hubbard, Jr.) • Russell Miller
Special Report // Mainstreaming Scientology — Daily Tribune (Oakland County, Michigan)
Six-month project Julie Edgar, 28, has worked for The Daily Tribune since 1987. Edgar, a Farmington native and graduate of the University of Michigan, wrote this report following six months of research and interviews. —– Church of Scientology members hawking free "personality test" used to be a common sight on Main Street in Royal Oak. That was before the church moved from its previous location at the corner of Main and Third streets to a building at Williams and Fourth streets ...
Tag(s): Alan Kellman • Auditing • Cost • Daily Tribune (Oakland County, Michigan) • Debbie Blair • E-Meter • Ethics (Scientology) • Gary Shepherd • Julie Edgar • Marriage counselling • Membership • Oxford Capacity Analysis (aka, "free Scientology personality test" aka "U-Test" aka "Pape Test") • Recruitment • Richard Burke • What is Scientology? (book)


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