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What they're saying: Doug Whaley, Doug Marrone wrap up 2014
Head Coach Doug Marrone and General Manager Doug Whaley**
2014 Season Review Press Conference
Senior VP of Communications Scott Berchtold: Before we get to your questions today, I just wanted to remind everyone that the purpose of today's press conference or media availability is to review the 2014 season. As we all know, there's a fair amount of speculation and rumors regarding our organization as there often is at this time of year but as the league requires us to do, we're here today to discuss this recently completed season and we will be responding to those questions only. Thank you.
Q: It's 2014 related but the news of the day is Kyle Orton's retirement. Both Dougs: were you surprised by it and how does that affect your to-do list?
Doug Whaley: I was surprised. He told us this morning so we had no inclination that he was thinking and making that decision at this time or down the road so it was surprising and for the future that's with the evaluation process, we'll start looking at that right after this meeting.
Doug Marrone: Yeah and I can confirm and Doug knows that I found out first thing this morning so obviously it's always a surprise especially when you're not thinking in those terms.
Q: How has that impacted your decision making as to who can play at that position?
DM: Well, moving forward, again like Doug said, those are things we'll talk about, but it would've impacted it. I would've had to make a decision of who would've been the best player for us to play during that week and I would've had to put some thought into it if I knew it prior to.
Q: Did you get a sense at all throughout this that this was a player who had this on his mind?
DM: No. Not by the way we were preparing and focusing nor was I at the same time trying to look at that with players.
Q: Now that you know, does it make you question…looking back?
DM: No, because if I didn't have that information, I'm not going to question anything that we've done.
Q: Doug Whaley, is EJ Manuel your franchise quarterback?
DW: That's something we'll look at throughout this offseason. By sheer numbers, we're going to have to add one, maybe two more but that's something that we're going to go through with a fine tooth comb and see if we can figure it out.
Q: If it were up to you, would you have played EJ yesterday?
DW: With the information we just found out about Kyle or what are you talking about?
Q: Both. I guess, first off without the information. Last week, would you have played EJ?
DW: I look at it this way. Coach is in charge of the 46 guys on the field. I'm in charge of the 53. We discuss things every day. I have full support of every decision he's made this year.
Q: You weren't able to say that EJ's your franchise quarterback. After sitting here last year and swearing by him and making a trade based on him being your franchise guy, helping him out, how disappointing is it to sit there and not be able to say, "Yes. He is"?
DW: I wouldn't say it's disappointing. It's something that we're going to have to see. I can't sit there and say because he did take a little bit of a regression back but we've also seen some progression in what he's been doing in practice so it's to be determined but again, we're going to do our due diligence and leave every option open at that position along with all other positions on that team.
Q: EJ didn't play the final twelve games of the season. How do you evaluate him between now and August knowing he won't play another game until next year?
DW: Same way you evaluate everybody else: just see how he's going to pick up and how he progresses through the OTA process, how he comes in off the season, if he's in shape and if his mind's ready, and then just go from there. Just like we're going to have to evaluate any position that we bring in new guys or old guys. Hey, it's a year to year league and you have to prove yourself every year.
Q: For Doug Marrone: it's been reported that you have a three-day window to opt out of your contract. Is that something you plan to utilize?
Scott Berchtold: We'll stick to 2014 questions. That doesn't have to do with the 2014 season.
Q: Was 2014 your last year as the Bills' Head Coach?
DM: I can't answer that question. I will tell you this and my background has been the same and you guys can look into. I do not discuss my contract and that's my rule. I never have and never will.
Q: Question for coach Marrone and I know you've got thorough reviews coming up on everything but can you talk about the issues on offense and what went well on your offense if anything? What went wrong?
DM: Well, I think that's going to be obviously the major point of when people look at it from the standpoint of the performance and we'll go back and look at those sixteen games and figure out how we can improve and make no mistake, we're always looking to improve in all three phases but I think that one will take more of a precedent obviously in what we have to do.
Q: Will the coaching staff from 2014 return?
DM: For me, right now, we just got done with the players today. We'll sit down…myself and Doug and Russ and we'll talk about the situations and the evaluations once we gather all that information.
Q: Question for Doug Whaley: if you had known EJ would take the step back that he did, would you have given up a 2015 first round pick to move up and get Sammy Watkins?
DW: I look at it this way: we're extremely happy with Sammy Watkins and we expect big things from him and I'll let you guys discuss if the trade was worth it, but we're happy with the player and we're expecting big things from him and I'll also look at it this way, drafting isn't the only way you can acquire a player in this league so there are other avenues that we can explore.
Q: Seeing what the other rookie wide receivers in this class did, does it make it a little bit tougher to swallow knowing what you gave up to get Sammy Watkins knowing he was on the board?
DW: Not at all. Not at all. We're extremely happy, like I said, with his play this year and we look for bigger and better things coming in the future.
Q: Do you maintain that that move was in the best interest of the long term future of the franchise?
DW: I think so. We got a number one wide receiver and if we didn't have a number one wide receiver, we'd still be looking for one so in the long term future, however long he plays and if he's here with the Buffalo Bills, we expect him to put up number one wide receiver numbers.
Q: Given the fact that offensive line was an issue throughout the season, are you disappointed in maybe the performance and the lack of playing of some of the higher offensive line picks such as (Cyrus) Kouandjio and (Cyril) Richardson?
DW: You look at it this way, we want to be consistent and across the board throughout this whole team, we weren't good enough to obtain our stated goal so everybody's got to get better and that starts with me, starts with coach, starts with all of us and we want to get better and the way with doing that is getting consistency and getting competition so we're going to continue to bring in players to get us to where we want to go.
Q: Doug Marrone, just to follow up on the O-Line; being a former offensive lineman and a former offensive line coach, are you disappointed that you couldn't get more out of your offensive line play this year knowing that that was a part of your expertise?
DM: Well the expertise part, probably no. I'm not going to go that way but you're always disappointed when you're not getting what your expectation is out of either A. a player or B. a group or 3. a unit and so on down the line and obviously with the team so you have that and again Doug and I have been in discussions throughout the year and how we're going to move forward, things of that nature, making notes so this way now when we get to the process of how to get more production of that unit, we'll know exactly what the plan is moving forward as well any other part of the team that we feel we have to do a better job of but make no mistake about it like I said, I feel very comfortable with Cyril coming back and making a move. I think that he's done some good things and I'm looking forward…I think that Cyrus Kouandjio is one of those players that really did a good job during the season, much better now than he was when he was playing in the preseason so it'll be interesting to see if that can carry over on to the field for a competition in who plays.
Q: How would you assess the job that Nate Hackett has done this year? Would you ever consider a change at that spot?
DM: Well I think again, it's like I said before, when discussing the change of coaches and everything, we'll all get together and we'll evaluate it. I'll get all the information…that's what we're gathering right now statistically, things of that nature. There's a lot that goes into an evaluation for everyone like I'm sure that goes into an evaluation of myself as a head coach so we'll look at that and those discussions will go from obviously our owner and then obviously myself and Doug and then obviously to the offensive staff, defensive staff, special teams…everyone's evaluated from me on down.
Q: How long do you anticipate that process taking place?
DM: It takes a couple weeks to get the information together. You're building it during the year but it's never quickly ready available for you right after the season's over so what you need to do is there needs to be a little, "Hey: let's take a step back from the emotion of the season." A couple days for that to settle down and then you go and you gather that information and you start meeting on it and start discussing it.
Q: The body of work…when you present this body of work. I'll start with Whaley. When you present the season with a body of work going back to the draft and the additions made, how do you present that and how do you craft that message, what you believe, to the Pegulas?
DW: Encouraged, not satisfied. We took a step forward but we obviously didn't meet our stated goals. There were some good things that came out of this season and there are some things that obviously we have to do better as a whole and as an organization and as a football team and as a personnel staff. Everybody's got to strive to get better and get us where we want to go and that's the playoffs.
Q: A lot of people are going back to that draft and the trade for Sammy Watkins and it didn't happen in a vacuum, it happened with the ownership situation. Do you feel that in retrospect, things might have been different if there wasn't the uncertainty hanging over this franchise's head?
DW: Not in my mind. As I say, when we set up our draft board, we have a line of guys that if they're still there and it makes sense, we will trade up for and then we have a line that we won't trade away from these guys and there's a line. The third line is that we can trade all the way back to this guys and we'll still feel comfortable so that's going to be the same process how we attack this draft.
Q: In terms of Kyle Orton, when he left Dallas, he thought he was retiring so there was that hanging over him. Did you discuss that with him at all when you brought him in here that he may only be hanging around for a year?
DW: We didn't discuss how long he would hang around but he said he wouldn't have come here unless he was fully committed so we took him at his word and he was committed for this year for sure.
Q: Are you disappointed with in Orton's decision?
DW: Right now, I'm still trying to process it. I can't be disappointed with a guy who says his heart's not in it because this a game where you have to be 100% in and I would not want a guy in here that wasn't 100% so I respect his decision. I respect what he brought to the team this year and we wish him nothing but the best.
Q: Same question for Coach Marrone.
DM: Yeah, same as Doug in the beginning but I was hoping Kyle would be with us.
Q: There was a huge disparity in terms of the production of the offensive side of the ball and defensive side of the ball. Is that a reflection of the coordinators, the scouting, or the quarterback play?
DM: Well I think I've answered those questions pretty much throughout the whole season. As I said before we have a lot of talented players on the defensive side of the ball. We went through two coordinators, two schematic changes and still got better production and it's still a credit to the coaches, still a credit to the players on that side of the ball. When you look at the offensive side, it's just like Doug and I have been talking about, we have to do a better job from myself to the coaches, coordinator and players also and I think that we all have to be accountable for that and it's our responsibility to make sure that we get that better and everyone knows that if we don't do that and we maintain getting better in the other phases, we're not going to be where we want to be.
Q: For Doug Whaley, when Coach Marrone decided to bench EJ Manuel, he made it clear that it was his decision…that he wasn't necessarily looking for agreement. Across the board, were you disappointed to move on from EJ Manuel?
DW: No, I was not disappointed. Like I said, it's coach's decision on who plays and the forty-six and we talk about it just like we talk about everything. From my side, we're looking to add a player and I'll talk to him about what my thought process is. He told me about his thought process and I said I'm fully behind you Coach.
DM: And I think that's where people maybe get things misinterpreted a little bit and I had made that decision but again it's not like you make a decision and go out there and not tell everyone. Obviously I made that decision and Doug was the first person I spoke to and said that this is the way we really need to go right now at this point in time and gives us the best chance to win and Doug was great because he just said, "I see the same things you see and I agree with it."
Q: Do the both of you believe that EJ Manuel can lead this team to the playoffs? If so, why?
DM: I'll tell you this and this is what happened. When we saw where he was at the time that we made the change, I met with him and talked with him on how he's going to handle things, which will probably give us a better indication of where he's going to be. I thought that he did a very good job. I think that his accuracy has gotten better. I thought his decision-making on where to go with the ball has gotten better, from the standpoint of where he was in practice and what we were looking for him to do in taking reps against our defense. In saying that, even though you can improve in that part of the game, you still have to do that when you get on to the field. Having that now and having those days and having what he does now and in the offseason what he does to prepare himself to compete, I think we'll know more when that time comes.
DW: I think, talking to EJ, it was a beneficial step in his career because he was able to take a deep breath, decompress and see how someone else does it -- a guy that's been in the league a while and has had some success. I think he picked up some nuances that he can incorporate in his game and hopefully get him to where we want him to be and where he wants to be. That's a starting quarterback that can produce at a high level in this league. Like Coach says, you really won't know for sure. We can't see progress until the lights go on next year and have him play.
Q: Do you think there was something to be excited about after yesterday's win?
DM: Yeah, I think you're always excited after you win because it's very difficult to win in this league. The players truly understand the disappointment of not being where we truly want to be. The next thing – and I said this during the week – is that you get a win and it takes some of this bad taste out of your mouth.
Q: Who gets responsibility for drafting EJ Manuel?
DW: I always say it's a Buffalo Bills pick. You can assign blame wherever you want, but when we're in draft meetings it's always a consensus recommendation for our whole organization of where we think this guy is valued and where we think he should be taken in the draft.
Q: What evidence do you have that you have a coach that fits the criteria of forward thinking and progressive as Russ Brandon claimed when Coach Marrone was hired?
DW: Like Coach says, we're going to evaluate this organization from top to bottom and we'll start after this meeting, after this press conference and go from there and get into the nitty gritty of it and the bolts and find out how we can improve.
Q: Does Orton's decision make it more likely you'll draft a quarterback?
DW: We'll leave all options open for acquiring a quarterback. We don't want to put ourselves in a corner and show our hand. We'll leave every option open.
Q: When Kyle informed you of his decision, how did that go down?
DM: When I came in this morning, Kyle came in to see me prior to our team meeting and informed me of it. I asked him, 'Hey, is this something that you're sure about?' A lot of times when you make decision like this, you need to spend some time thinking about it. I told him, 'Hey, I recommend you take some time and think about it before you come to a decision.' But he said that he was ready. In this game, you've got to respect the players' decisions. As soon as I was informed, I informed Russ Brandon. I told Russ to make sure that he told Doug at the time, because I was trying to call the owner to tell him what was going on.
Q: Do you still feel that need for a more veteran presence at quarterback on the roster?
DW: That's something that we're going to talk to Coach about and evaluate. Like I told Sully, we're going to leave every option open of how many and what type that we're going to add to the roster.
Q: How much salary cap flexibility do you have to add a quarterback to the roster this offseason?
DW: We'll have to look at the numbers and, again, that goes with the evaluation process that we'll start here soon.
Q: Right now, how much cap space do you have?
DW: I want to say $16 [million]. I'm not sure. We'll have to look at it. I haven't even started looking at that stuff yet.
Q: Your thoughts on Jerry Hughes moving forward?
DW: Productive player. Brings a lot of energy to our defense. We're excited that we have him on our team and we'll do everything we can to keep him.
Q: What about C.J. Spiller?
DW: Same thing. He didn't have the year that he wanted to have with the injuries, but we think he can bring something to our offense and be a nice addition and a nice weapon for us.
Q: Is there a spot for Brandon Spikes?
DW: That's something we'll have to evaluate and we'll have to see where he is and what's he's thinking and if it fits where we think he can fit into our defense. It's something we'll evaluate.
Q: Why has C.J. not been able to reach the level of production in two years with your staff that he was in 2012 under Chan Gailey?
DM: A little bit we'll look at it as far as the schematics of what we're trying to do. Obviously, we went back and looked at a lot of the stuff he was successful with when Chan was here as the coach. A lot of times you can't set up a system for one person to be successful. You're trying to set up a system where you can have success and win games. We've got to look at that and try to figure out the best way to duplicate those numbers, while making sure we're winning games.
Q: By saying that we can assign blame for the EJ pick wherever we want, is that an admission that that pick was a failure?
DW: No, that's what you were trying to say. I wouldn't say it was a failure. His career isn't over. It's just getting started. That's how I feel.
Q: Did you feel that you needed to bring more protection for your quarterback and that limited you offensively?
DM: Strategically, we went in and I'm thinking – I don't know if this is answer and if it's not just stop me – what do we have to do to win games? I think that's the most important thing. You don't want to run a team with three separate entities. I think we did a good job this year, from a standpoint of the team knowing what had to be done in those three phases. With the receiver situation, when you look at it, Kyle's numbers from a completion percentage, the number of receivers that had over 60 catches from that, but we need to do a better job situationally when you look at our season from a red-zone standpoint and a third down standpoint and get better. Whether it's increasing those numbers, I don't know as far as receptions and catches, but the one increase in numbers is touchdowns and third down catches and first downs.
Q: Was there a decision to be more conservative on offense this season?
DM: Well, some games we wanted to slow down. Some games we want to speed up. Obviously, we're always looking to see if we can create big plays. To answer your question, like I said most of the year, the efficiency level – you go back to yesterday and you look at that first drive. Well, everyone will say, 'That was a hell of a first drive. You did this different and this different.' We really didn't. We called the same plays, but we were able to be efficient and make plays and go down the field and score. It's the same things. It's a tale of two halves. In the second half we knew what was going on, we didn't have to make any adjustments because of the coverage situation that we were in. We were doing the same type of things, but we weren't getting the same results. That's the difficult part of it. You need to field a team or unit that can be efficient. That's why I've always used that word during the year.
Q: Can you tell us how your analytics department has helped you out throughout the year?
DW: That's proprietary information, so we like to keep that in with us because we don't like to show our hand.
Q: How much more have you leaned on it since its implementation? How has it evolved since its infancy?
DW: I know, from my standpoint, I'll go to Michael Lyons and I'll be thinking of something and say, 'Hey, can you run some numbers on this?' It's situationally and there's things that come up that you might want to delve into the numbers a little more and that's when we lean on Michael Lyons. It will get ramped up even more with this offseason coming on when we start looking at free agency and the draft board.
Q: Have you been happy with it?
DW: Yes, extremely. Obviously, we're just scratching the surface because it's new to me and Michael has been great to work with. The more and more projects we come up with, the more we'll be able to use it.
Q: Is it used mostly by just the front office?
DM: Doug's responsibilities and how he uses it is obviously going to be different from how we use it. I talk about it all the time. I use it quite a bit on a lot of things. We have some thoughts and ideas that we've put around that we're going to be able to take this thing to a level where I don't think anyone else around is able to do, because my experience of using the analytics, but it's not going to be from a standpoint that a lot of people here are going to realize, which is like down-and-distance and fourth down. That's in there, but it's not even close to what you can use it for to become better schematically, matchup-wise and things of that nature. I'm excited. Obviously, you guys know that I use it in a lot of different things that we do to help give you another form of information, not that it's necessarily going to be the tell-all and that's going to be it.
Q: How encouraged are you by the results of your first two seasons as head coach?
DM: Well, it goes back to originally the conversations during the interview process. When I was first being interviewed and they asked how I wanted the team built and where I wanted to do it. Doug was involved with it at the time, even though Buddy [Nix] was there. Going with building it defensively and then, after last season was over, Doug and I talked and we made a conscious effort to get better on special teams and get the field position thing straightened out. We made a conscious effort to go out and get that better and we did. I think, at the end of the day -- we didn't get all the stats from yesterday's game – going into yesterday's game, we were third in the NFL in special teams from a composite. Now, the next thing is to get better still on defense and special teams, but we need to make sure we need to discuss what's the best thing in an effort to improve ourselves offensively to get us there. As far as the season, I think when you look back, you see a lot of things. People point to the Oakland game, but I think it goes further back than that. It goes back to really every game that you're not able to do. Can you use that as a point going forward? If everyone truly understands and is truly educated in their beliefs about how difficult it is to win, how much you have to prepare and focus and how you have to be ready to play every single game every single week and be able to play at a level of efficiency that you can win. If you can do that, then you look at what's happened this season and you can build off that. Make no mistake, you're going to have to go back to the beginning and build that same foundation, but you're able to use the season to support what your message is.
Q: In that sense, how big of a setback might it be for this offense to be starting with its third quarterback in three years?
DM: It could be. I'm not going to sit here and deny that it's not going to be. We just have to see how it works out and what our plan is moving forward.
Q: How did the owners react to Orton's retirement when you were able to reach them?
DM: The same questions that everyone brought up here were the same questions that Terry brought up.
Q: What expectations did you for the Mike Williams trade and were they met?
DW: We were looking for a guy to come in and help us. The way we assessed it was, sixth round for a proven NFL player or a sixth round rookie. We thought it was a deal that was palatable for us and for Tampa. Obviously it didn't work out the way we wanted, but we will always research and our due diligence to keep adding good players.
Q: Why didn't it work out in your eyes?
DM: I think because Robert (Woods), there was a point where Mike was playing better than Robert Woods. That happened at camp. You guys that were there saw that. There was a point where Robert Woods started playing better. You have Robert Woods and Sammy, those players stepped up. Mike's position wasn't as an inside player in the slot and we felt Chris Hogan was coming along and Chris was a better option for us in the slot with Robert staying outside, rather than moving Robert in and having Mike come in. That was the decision we made. People got better and it had nothing to do with Mike and his performance. He was just beat out by those guys in our opinion as coaches. That's how that went down. I believe if I'm correct, that we acquired Mike before the draft. So we didn't realize that we were going to be able to get someone like Sammy to play on the outside also.
Q: What concerns do you have about the potential of Jim Schwartz getting a head coach position with another team?
DM: I think we did a good job when Mike (Pettine) left. I think there were a lot of questions with it. I think Jim has done an outstanding job. We're very happy with what he has done here and when that time comes we'll be able to go where we need to go.
Q: Do you have contingency plans for what you would do if he left?
DM: How many weeks have we been together? There are contingency plans for everything and everyone is backed up. Everyone goes that way. I think if you asked any coach that, they would know.
Q: Since you started experimenting with Cyrus Kouandjio at guard, how has he looked? Is it your plan to keep him there?
DM: He went in there and it's much more difficult like I've said before, to move outside in. It's so much easier to move inside out. In saying that, we wanted to make sure we weren't going to make a mistake in being able to play our best five, so we moved him inside. If you're asking me right now, I still think he's probably better suited to be outside. I think the thing that is probably a little bit unfair to everyone here is that they haven't seen the movement skills that have increased during the year for him. That was the one thing that we all saw in the preseason , his movement skills, he wasn't moving as well as he needed to move to play at that position. I think his movement skills have improved, so I'm excited to see where he goes. Then obviously we'll look at positionally where people go and moving around because he's been mostly on the right side.
Q: When you drafted him in the second round, was the plan for him to have a redshirt year or did you not get as much as you expected?
DW: I look at it this way, we saw a lot of talent in the player and we said if he lives up to his talent level, we'll be able to get a productive player. I think like coach said he started out slow in camp and other guys moved ahead of him. We're excited with what we're seeing recently on the practice field.
Q: With a three win improvement, does that make this season a success or a failure because you didn't make it to the playoffs?
DW: Again, my statement is we're encouraged but we're not satisfied. We have some things that we did and can build on, but we can't be satisfied until we get to the playoffs.
Q: Based on how this season went, do you feel there is any need for oversight on the football side?
DM: That is not a decision that I am able to make so I do not concern myself with it.
DW: Same thing. That is not up for me to make a decision on. I am just going to keep doing hard work.
Q: Going back to Kouandjio…
DM: I would say this, Chris Hairston came back—I think we were in a situation where we really had a couple of guys who had good experience playing tackle. You are happy with that. You can never really have enough good offensive tackles. I think similar to the point when we were talking about Mike (Williams), Seantrel Henderson came up and really blossomed into a heck of a player. I was always afraid to say it during the year about how well he was playing because I think that is difficult for people to see in an offensive line. When you look back at the 16 games, 15 out of the 16 games he was a productive winning player for us—outside of the one game.
Q: Any concern that Cordy Glenn is not the left tackle that he was thought to be?
DM: I think those are the things that you look at. I think that obviously it is always a concern when someone is struggling and you have to come up with answers and put people in the best positions. Doug (Whaley) and I have talked about that during the year about what has gone on. We have had those conversations with Cordy. Now we have to see how it goes moving forward for what is best with the team.
Q: Is there a consideration to flip Seantrel to the left side?
DM: It is always an option. However we get the best five out there playing. The faster we can do it, the better we will be.
Q: You don't strike me as the kind of guy who does the 'shoulda, coulda.'
DM: We all do though.
Q: Is there one moment that sticks out?
DM: I do not think it is fair to put it on one play. I think you start going back and the first thing you look at is the games you lost. You start reliving those. Like I said yesterday, when you go through that evaluation and you go back and look at those games it hurts just as much as it did during that time. You always question. 'Hey, what could I have done as a head coach to make it better to where we could have made it more efficient or we could have eliminated the turnovers.' You look at New England and it was a turnover situation. You look at Houston and it was a turnover situation. There are a lot of things that come into play. I think you start to look at that and you realize how close we were. At the same time you say when this thing starts again we have to go through all the processes again and make sure that we can build it so those things do not occur and you're not looking back and saying that.
Q: Is there a one chief regret?
DM: Which one do you want me to say? (Laughs) I look at it as an overall. You cannot minimize some things that happen during the course. It could have been a poor kick and field position. It could have been a defensive holding penalty that gives someone the first down. It could have been a second and three and you get an offensive holding. A third and three and you pick it up, but you have a penalty. The way I am built, all those things go into play and it has never really been the one situation that really did it. There is always about four or five plays per game that you can really put your hat on.
Q: That doesn't sound like a good way to live.
DM: That is why I am always like I am. (Laughs)
Q: Do you think it would be risky to go back to EJ with a veteran locker room?
DM: When you say worry about the locker room, do you mean as far as them not having faith in the player playing?
Q: Yeah, their reception and outlook.
DM: I have always said this, I have a lot of respect for players. The one thing players know is they know who should be playing and who shouldn't to a great extent. I think it is important and that is where it comes for responsibility that we put players on the field that everyone has seen has earned the right to be on the field and can be productive and efficient enough for us to win. That is always the case. You never want to put someone in there where the players do not have faith at not just the quarterback position where that is going to get more play, but really any position.
Q: Do you think you under-evaluated the need to bring in a veteran QB earlier in the offseason?
DW: At the time when we got finished with the season, we were comfortable with Thad Lewis. He came in and won some games for us. Granted he was not a vet, but he we thought OK we can go along with these two young guys. Jeff Tuel—so three young guys and go from there. Thad regressed. He did not come in and live up to what he can tell you he expected of himself and what we expected of him. So at that time I say you have a plan, but you have to be light on your feet. When we saw that Thad was not progressing the way that we wanted, we had to explore other options and that is when Orton came to mind.
Q: Coach do you have any regrets about how C.J. Spiller was used before he went down?
DM: No because it would be my decision so I do not have any regrets for that.
Q: Do you have an update on Kiko Alonso?
DM: Well right now we are under the impression that outside any setback that he should be cleared soon.


I like making RPMs. I do it for Fedora, and it's fun. I do it at work, and I like that too, but sometimes I do things that make me cringe. In my defence, I was driven to it by something that rhymes with Whoracle.
More systemd migrations done. I'm getting a better feel for how some of the more complex use cases work. If you want me to do yours, let me know.
Some movement on Merge Reviews, new count is down to 69 NEW. Not too bad.
And Beta looks great. Following the yum upgrade page, even usermove was painless.
Today should, barring major catastrophe, mark the release of Fedora 17 Beta. The download page hasn't yet been updated, but the moderately enterprising can figure it out. Download, enjoy, test, test test!
Amongst the recent set of Packaging Guidelines changes written up and announced (thanks spot!) was this one. If you maintain a package for anything that has an executable that's long running, like a server daemon, runs as root, is setuid or uses capabilities, or accepts untrusted input, I strongly recommend you have a read. Then consider trying it out on your relevant package(s).
I ran down my list, and identified several that seemed like good candidates. Most programs build just fine with the change, and it's only 1 line added to the spec file, which calls a macro to add to the build flags, so it's easy to do. Most code won't show any run-time effects, other than a tiny reduction in startup speed from lack of prelinking, but for a long-running and/or root process, it's more than worth it for the extra security.
Given that F17 Beta is gold and on it's imminent way, this is a great time to try it in F18. In the unlikely event that it breaks anything, you have plenty of time to fix it.
Samba security update: please test and give karma!
Please install, test, and provide karma in the update. Fixes CVE-2012-1182.
Got a bug report that liquidwar-server was crashing. I've been playing liquidwar for ages, but had never used the server. So I don't really know how long that's been broken, I inherited the package from someone else. So I patched that. Total time spend on buffer overflow: 10 minutes.
The server ran great from the command line but hung when started by systemd. I changed the service type from forking to simple (by removing the Type declaration) and it worked as expected, so I committed and built for rawhide and f17. Total time spent on systemd issue: 5 minutes.
Then I worked my way back to f16, which is still on sysvinit. Patch applied, binary ran, but it still hung at service start. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a sysvinit expert. I experimented and googled and eventually stuck quotes around the command and arguments. Total time spent on sysvinit issue: 20 minutes.
It took me more time to fix the sysvinit issue than the systemd issue, but it also took me more time to fix the sysvinit issue than it took me to fix a C buffer overflow.


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Archive for the 'School' Category
CIA: We've Really Missed Having You As an Enemy!
Test-taker: What happens if we don't know our social security number?
Proctor, in thick Russian accent: Then we dismiss your test and eat you alive!
–Edward R. Murrow High, Brooklyn
Overheard by: melanie
Education, Questions, School, Students, Teachers/Professors, Threats
Testing, Wednesday One, Two, Three-Liners
Principal, over PA system: Attention: We are testing out the PA system. If you don't hear this, please call the office.
Announcer on 6 train (which was being held at the station): Attention ladies and gentlemen. (pause) Does this thing even work?
Overheard by: Your Mom
Cop, over megaphone from patrol car: Attention people in the park, we think you are all drunk. Whether legally or illegally, please, vacate the area. (a few minutes later, after driving around the fountain) People in the fountain, don't think we can't see you…don't use stargazing as your excuse because there's too much light pollution!
–Washington Square Park
Overheard by: In the fountain
Conductor over PA: Attention passengers. Acts of pugilism are not allowed on this train.
(two minutes later) Attention passengers. This is just a reminder that acts of fornication or fellatio are not allowed on this train.
–Post Midnight Drunk Train, LIRR
Overheard by: Rob T Firefly
Nervous voice on building PA system: Can I have your attention, please? Can I have your attention, please? Please disregard this message.
–Third Ave & b/w 50th & 51st
All Wednesday One-Liners, BJs, Conductors, Cops, Coworkers, Crime and Punishment, Drinking & Drunk People, Midtown & Hell's Kitchen, Offers and requests, On the Subway, Public Transportation, Questions, School, Sex, Sports, Stupidity, Trains Not Subway, Washington Square Park, Weirdness
Nothing a Little Duct Tape Can't Fix
Man: Virginity is a state of mind.
Woman: I beg to differ. My hymen has been ruptured.
–Brooklyn Lyceum
Body Parts, Brooklyn, Men, School, Sex, Virginity, Weirdness, Women
If You're Against Wednesday One-Liners, Don't Have One
Opera director, after tech sticks a wire hanger under the thermostat box to turn up the heat: Well, someone just got an abortion! (everyone stares) Okay, enough of that. Back to work! Ha! Ha! Ha!
–Brooklyn Music School
Comedy club promoter: Cheaper than a Chinese abortion!
Overheard by: Mickey
Bar customer to bartender: You're only 22? I have an aborted fetus that's older than you!
–110th & Amsterdam
Man selling tickets: Help me pay for my girlfriend's abortion by coming to the comedy club!
Man to very pregnant friend he has not seen for a while: Karen! Oh my god, how are you? I thought you had gotten an abortion.
Overheard by: blistexaddict
Abortion, Age/Aging, All Wednesday One-Liners, Bartenders, Bosses, Brooklyn, Compare/Contrast, Customers, Laughter, Men, Money & Class, On the Subway, One-liners, Panhandling, Preggers, Pregnancy & Birth Control, Questions, School, Strangers, Theater & Dance, Times Square, Upper West Side & Lincoln Center, Vendors & Street Performers, Wednesday One-Liners
Batman and Robin Was the Greater Tragedy
Blonde: I think I'm going to donate money to that thing George Clooney was talking about.
Friend: What?
Blonde: Darfur.
–Pratt Institute, Brooklyn
Overheard by: betty machete
A-List, About Celebrities, Bimbettes, Brooklyn, Celebrities, College, Friends, Global Geography, Money & Class, Pop Culture, School, Stupidity
If You Don't Get It, Ask an Appeaser
Professor lady: What is your favorite fruit?
Girl #1: J'aime manger les pommes.
Girl #2: Isn't the rule if it grows underground it's a vegetable?
–Fordham University, Rose Hill
Animals & Nature, Food, Fordham, Languages, People, Places, School, Students, Teachers/Professors, The Bronx, Topics, Venues
Hey, Kiss My Wednesday One-Liners
Drunk guy: Excuse me, Miss, I'm askin'… I want to kiss your ass! Just the left cheek!
–8th Ave & W 55th St
Overheard by: Fred Daubert
Canadian guy: The first kiss'll be at the altar.
Loudmouth on cell: Yeah man, and then, like, I was kissing her, and then I like, just started dancing with her. We were dancing, man. And then I picked her up, and she beat the crap out of me, and I had to put her down. Yeah, man. But she was a fuckin' awesome kisser.
Overheard by: lucy in the sky with diamonds
Girl on cell: I can't remember the last time we kissed on the mouth, can you?
–43rd & Lex
Ghetto chick leaving after fight with boyfriend: Kiss my ass. No, kiss my pussy while it's bleeding, like you used to.
Girl on cell: He said he wouldn't leave until I kissed him… so I kissed him while I was on the toilet!
–115th St & Manhattan Ave
Overheard by: Melissa Berry
All Wednesday One-Liners, Ass, Body Parts, Canadians, College, Dancing, Drinking & Drunk People, Drunks, Eating Out, Fighting and ass kicking, Ghetto Chicks, Harlem & Morningside Heights, Health and Hygiene, K-I-S-S-I-N-G, Manhattan, Marriage, Menstruation, Midtown & Hell's Kitchen, NYU, On Cell, On the Subway, People, Pick-up Lines, Places, Private Parts, School, Sex, Sex & Relationships, Topics, Vagina
With Lots of Maple Syrup
Small Canadian mimicking fat kid: You run funny.
Fat kid: Shut up or I'll eat you. I eat Canadians for breakfast.
–Bronx Science
Overheard by: LSB
Kids, School, Threats
…And Limes, and Stirrers, and Rocks Glasses
Student, explaining a baby carrier he made: In order to make sure it would hold the weight of a baby, I tested it with an Absolut vodka bottle.
Professor: You should have brought that in too. I think I have tonic in my bag.
Overheard by: dontyouloveartschool
Babies, Diet/Weight, Drinking & Drunk People, School, School and studying, Students, Teachers/Professors
"…This mayonnaise sure tastes funny!"
Girl: What are you eating?
Guy: I don't know, I was just like, "Put whatever you want on bread."
Overheard by: helena vozhd
College, Columbia, Columbia (& Barnard), Food, Innuendo, Manhattan, People, Places, School, Sex, Students, Topics, Venues


"Air conditioning accounts for nearly 50% of the energy use in the United States during peak summer months, and air conditioning is responsible for nearly 100 million tons of carbon dioxide emissions every year," says the Rocky Mountain Institute in one of its White Papers. In the winter, while northern cities, like Salt Lake City, change over to the production of heat, southern states continue to rely on cooling their climate, raising America's reliance on HVAC systems despite rising energy costs and the impact to the environment.
We know this trend can lead to irreversible damage to our climate and style of life, but are just beginning to learn the little steps that can be taken to minimize the impact. From house to house, one by one, we can make a difference.
No matter the energy rating of a heating appliance, a schedule of simple heating maintenance and replacement of filters can make a significant difference in its longevity. Most heating systems in Salt Lake City rated at 95% efficient will burn nowhere near that great a rating if the air is blocked and unable to pass through the filter without effort.
Fan belts on the blower motor can loosen over time and become ineffective, forcing the heater to burn longer and hotter to distribute air that should normally breeze through the ductwork. Working so hard, parts break and the furnace might need replacement.
If left to our own habits, furnaces and air conditioners might run for hours under unnecessary circumstances because we are not thinking to turn our thermostats up or down. At the change of seasons, in particular, it may feel warm enough to open a window while the heat is still adjusted to come on at those fresher temperatures that now seem so inviting.
In older homes, the replacement of the old dial thermostats with the newer programmable versions can save hundreds of dollars annually on energy costs. Smart phones allow adjustments to thermostats from anywhere in the world for the instance that a cold snap may threaten frozen pipes while we are away on vacation.
Tax incentives, climate change and the economics of energy dictate that we look closely at our habits and find ways to conserve our resources. Simple steps taken by each of us can lead to a wealth of improvements and create communities of action. Please call Efficient Systems with any questions.


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IT'S NOT EASY'
Frank Lampard sacked by Everton after defeat at West Ham leaves club 19th in Premier League table
Bayern boss Nagelsmann targeted with 450 death threats and mum attacked by sick trolls after shock Champions League exit
JULIAN NAGELSMANN has revealed he has received 450 death threats following Bayern Munich's Champions League exit at the hands of Villarreal.
And the 34-year-old has also declared that his mother has been targeted by sick trolls in the wake of the club's European Cup woe.
Bayern Munich boss Julian Nagelsmann has revealed he has received 450 death threats this weekCredit: EPA
Bundesliga leaders Bayern were knocked out of the Champions League in the quarter-finals by Spanish side Villarreal on Tuesday night.
The Bavarian outfit went into the second leg trailing 1-0 after Arnaut Danjuma scored the game's only goal at El Madrigal.
Robert Lewandowski then put the German outfit level on aggregate in the return fixture with the game seemingly set for extra-time.
But Unai Emery's men silenced the Allianz Arena when Nigerian winger Samuel Chukwueze scored in the 88th minute to send his side into the last four.
And speaking ahead of Sunday's trip to Arminia, Nagelsmann, who replaced Hanski Flick in the dugout last year, discussed the abuse he has received this week.
He said: "I know I will always get criticism from all sides – that's normal and I can deal with it.
"But with 450 death threats on Instagram, it's not so easy.
"If people want to kill me that's one thing, but they also attack my own mother, who doesn't even care about football.
"I don't understand it. As soon as they turn off the TV, people forget all decency.
"And they think they are the ones in the right, that's the crazy thing."
Nagelsmann was then asked whether he has considered taking legal action against those who regularly make threats to him and his family.
To which he remarked: "I would never be done with it. I get them after every single game, regardless of whether we win or lose.
"There are more death threats when we play with a back three than when we play with a back four, and obviously a few more whenever we lose."
Tags: IT;S NOT EASYSHOCK LEAGUE EXIT
Sharpshooters: Super Eagles star better than Osimhen, Mbappe, Haaland in 2023
Ex-Barcelona defender, Dani Alves arrested for alleged sexual assault
SCORENigeria Top 5: Osimhen, Ademola Lookman, Moffi lead Super Eagles Goals Rush
EPL: Why we beat Man City 2-1 – Ten Hag
THE BODY OF CHRIST


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Event On : September 14, 2018
AIA Hong Kong, HKIA & RIBA(HK) Joint Symposium: Privatizing Public Space/Publicizing Private Space
Please join us for a collaborative symposium with the HKIA and RIBA (HK): Privatizing Public Space/Publicizing Private Space co-sponsored by Laws Group and Paul Y. Engineering. This event will also be our Chapter's Third Quarterly Meeting. With the decrease in public spaces and an increase in the number of land sales, some of the world's developers have now begun to create public spaces within their developments that enhance the immediate environment, even at the expense of their allowable buildable area. Although 'private' and 'public' are seemingly opposites, these initiatives aim to provide amenities for the general public, and architects and urban designers are increasingly tasked with providing creative solutions. Simultaneously, designers must constantly adapt to shifting government policies regarding the maximum amount of buildable area. Speakers: Anna Bond, MRICS BSC. Land Management, University of Reading, UK Portfolio Director, London Estate | Grosvenor Britain & Ireland Anna Bond joined Grosvenor Britain and Ireland in 2008 and has led a number of different development portfolios for projects such as Liverpool ONE, the London Gagosian Gallery, 875 California Street, Shanghai Parkside Plaza and Vancouver Connaught. Prior to joining Grosvenor Anna was at DTZ in various advisory roles, working with clients on how to maximise the value of their assets, and undertaking acquisitions and disposals on their behalf.
Wenjing Huang, AIA B. Arch, Tsinghua University and M. Arch, Princeton University Founding Partner | OPEN Architecture, Beijing
Huang Wenjing is the founding partner of OPEN Architecture and a visiting professor at Tsinghua University School of Architecture.
She is licensed in New York State and was a senior designer and associate at the New York-based firm Pei Cobb Freed & Partners (formerly I.M. Pei Architects). Besides teaching at Tsinghua University, Huang has also been a visiting assistant professor at the University of Hong Kong and a senior editor of World Architecture magazine,from 2006 to 2007.
Current OPEN Architecture projects include the Pudong Art Museum, the Pingshan Performing Arts Center, the New Shenzhen Art Museum and Library and Sky City (Wuhan, China). Her Tsinghua Ocean Center, a laboratory and office building for the newly established deep ocean research base of Tsinghua University's Graduate School, received an Award of Excellence in the 2018 Education Facility Design Awards by the AIA Committee on Architecture for Education.
Erik Gerard L'Heureux, AIA LEED AP BD+C BA. Arch, Washington University and M. Arch, Princeton University Vice Dean - Department of Architecture | National University of Singapore Principal | Pencil Office, US Erik L'Heureux was the Ruth and Norman Moore Visiting Professor at Washington University in St. Louis for 2017 and is the Principal of Pencil Office. He is the winner of AIA New York State Design Awards in 2012, 2009 and 2007 and won the 2015 Wheelwright Prize from Harvard University in 2015 for his research on architecture and the equatorial city. Erik also co-curated exhibitions in Singapore and Paris and was the curator and designer of 1000 Singapores at the 12th International Architecture Exhibition, Venice Biennale in 2010. Event Partner & Venue Sponsor : Platinum Sponsor Media Partner Supporting organizations
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Экскурсионно-туристический комплекс «Аптекарский сад» (Мядельский район Минской области) — основан в 2014 году в Республике Беларусь на территории Национального парка «Нарочанский».

Территория Аптекарского сада расположена в лесном массиве на земельном участке площадью более 1,6 га между озер Нарочанской группы – Нарочь, Мястро и Белое.

Закладка сада началась в 2012 году в рамках реализации Государственной программы развития курортной зоны Нарочанского региона на 2011 – 2015 годы. Для широкой публики сад впервые открылся 11 июля 2014 года.

Аптекарский сад - единственный в Республике Беларусь объект, созданный на основе многовекового опыта европейских монастырей по выращиванию и культивированию редких лекарственных растений.

В Аптекарском саду в виде тематических клумб, растительных арт-объектов, лабиринтов представлено более 350 видов лекарственных, пряных, декоративных, редких растений Республики Беларусь, а также растений, занесенных в Красную книгу Республики Беларусь, которые объединены в ботанические коллекции.

Сад имеет регулярную планировку с ярко выраженным осевым построением и делится узкими дорожками на тематические группы. В центре, на пересечении дорожек, расположен один из трех водоемов с фонтаном, где водятся карпы кои. По примеру садов средневековья планировка Аптекарского сада предусматривает «лабиринт» и четыре «зелёные комнаты»:

«Царство Морфея» - где собраны целебные травы, обладающие успокаивающим эффектом и вызывающие сонливость;

«Аптекарский огород» - представлены лекарственные растения, применяемые не только в медицине, но широко используемые в традиционной кулинарии народов мира;

«Ледниковый период» - представляет собой коллекцию мельничных жерновов, изготовленных из существующих разновидностей гранита Свенцянской моренной гряды, а также собрание лекарственных растений, произрастающих преимущественно в горной местности;

«Целебная кладовая» - является собранием наиболее распространенных в дикой природе и широко применяемых в народной медицине лекарственных трав.

Аптекарский сад открыт для посещения.

Ссылки
 Официальный веб-сайт Экскурсионно-туристический комплекс "Аптекарский сад"
 Официальный веб-сайт Национальный парк "Нарочанский"
 Па досведзе еўрапейскіх кляштароў: на Мядзельшчыне з'явіўся "Аптэкарскі сад"
 Туристический маршрут по аптекарскому саду разрабатывается в Мядельском районе
 Там, дзе травы гаючыя …
 Калі ласка, у "Аптэкарскі сад!"
 Официальный веб-сайт МТРК «Мир»
 Открылся оригинальный экскурсионный объект…
 Официальный веб-сайт Мядельского районного исполнительного комитета

Садоводство
Организации Минской области
Ботанические сады Белоруссии

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It's clear that companies that correctly match their strategy-making processes to their competitive circumstances perform better than those that don't. But too many use approaches appropriate only to predictable environments — even in highly volatile situations. Really, that we need is a strategy for setting strategy!
In their classic HBR article, BCG's Martin Reeves, Claire Love, and Philipp Tillmanns present a framework for choosing one, which begins with two questions. How unpredictable is your environment? How much power do you or others have to change that environment?
Keynote speaker session of the 'Strategy' segment at CRF's 5th International Conference in Madrid, from George Yip, Professor of Management & Co-Director at CEIBS.
The business of business: Business acumen, strategy, value creation, and measuring it all: A rapid review!
A detailed resource exploring business acumen and business strategy.


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March has been a great month for fishing near St. Pete Beach. We have been fishing for snook on most days and also picking up some nice redfish and trout as well. There are still plenty of sheepshead around too with many of them moving up onto the flats.
The mackerel have really started to move in thick as well so they will be moving up on our list of targeted species as we head into April.
The weather has been much better this March than last year in St. Pete Beach with most days being in the upper 70's and lower humidity. We are still getting a few cold fronts but they are bringing mostly wind and not too much cold.
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Geetha Govindam
2018 Indian Telugu comedy film by Parasuram
Not to be confused with Gita Govinda.
Geetha Govindham
Theatrical release poster
Parasuram
Allu Aravind
Parasuram[1]
S. Manikandan
Marthand K. Venkatesh
GA2 Pictures
Geetha Arts
15 August 2018 (2018-08-15)
2:28:00[2]
₹5 crore[3]
est. ₹130 Crore[4]
Geetha Govindam is a 2018 Indian Telugu language romantic comedy film written and directed by Parasuram, produced by Bunny Vasu under the banner of GA2 Pictures. The film stars Vijay Devarakonda and Rashmika Mandanna, while Subbaraju, Nithya Menon, Rahul Ramakrishna, and Nagendra Babu play supporting roles.
Released on 15 August 2018, the film is a huge commercial success.[5] Though critics felt that it was a "tried and tested story," the film received praise for its direction,projection, performances, and production values.[6]
5.1 Critical reception
Vijay meets Nithya on the road at night, where he is sitting alone and sad. Nithya's car breaks down and she asks him for help, he says only if she gives him alcohol and if she will listen to his story. Seeing him as a non-alcoholic, she asks if it is a love story. To which he tells her his story.
During a visit to a temple, Vijay comes to know that the decorations were all done by a girl named Geetha. He discovers that the girl is unmarried and is immediately attracted to her. Before he can pursue her, he comes to know that his sister's engagement is fixed and leaves for his town Kakinada. Coincidentally, Geetha is his co-passenger on the bus, occupying the window seat beside him. While trying to take a selfie with Geetha, who was sleeping, Vijay accidentally kisses her. She wakes up and feels violated, and slaps Vijay. Vijay keeps apologizing profusely and tries to explain Geetha. But however, she does not listen to him and calls her brother to tell about the incident. Geetha's brother Phaneendra after knowing about misbehaviour done with Geetha, gets ready with his henchmen at Kakinada station to kill the boy, in front of temple. Phaneendra is accompanied by police officer Ravi. Vijay after freaks out and in a fight with Geetha, Jump off from the bus.
When he comes home, he is shocked to find that his sister Sirisha is engaged to Phaneendra, Geetha's brother. However, during the function Geetha does not rat Vijay out to her family as the boy from the bus. Vijay and Geetha are then paired to invite wedding guests in Hyderabad. Vijay throughout their time together repeatedly apologises for his behaviour, but Geetha doesn't accept his apology.
Meanwhile, Vijay works as a lecturer where one of his students is romantically interested in him. When he refuses her advances in public, she send him a video to seduce him. The message is send while Geetha is in the car with Vijay and she sees the video. Geetha accuses Vijay of being cheap and when Vijay tries to defend himself, she still does not believe him, and assumes that Vijay's family may also be cheap. This argument leads to Vijay asking Geetha to get out of the car and get to her hostel on her own. However, he later goes to check if she has arrived at her hostel safely.
When Geetha and Vijay are distributing invitation cards, Vijay stays in the car while Geetha goes and gives the card. When she enters the house and talks to the lady there, she sees the girl from the video leaving the house to which she finds out is the lady's daughter. Geetha tries to mention how Vijay might be taking advantage of her daughter, to which the lady says that Vijay was innocent. In fact, after the daughter had send the video, he had come to their house and talked to them. Once Geetha realises his innocence, she is impressed by his actions and how he handled the situation. Therefore, falls in love with Vijay.
Meanwhile Phaneendra is actively looking for the boy who misbehaved with his sister on the bus. However, since falling in love with Vijay, Geetha tells her brother the whole truth and they both go back home to focus on Phaneendra's wedding.
Suddenly Phaneendra's grandfather has a heart attack. Their grandmother, fearing that her husband might not be alive to see Geetha's marriage, forces everyone to get Geetha married on the same day as Phaneendra. Phaneendra suggests Vijay's name for marriage and Geetha happily accepts. Vijay, unaware of Geetha's feelings, turns down the proposal, saying he wanted his wife to have him as the only option, not as a choice. Geetha's marriage then gets arranged to another suitor. Later Vijay feeling guilty, confesses to Phaneendra about his encounter with Geetha on the bus and Phaneendra reveals that Geetha had already told him about it. He then goes onto say for Geetha, Vijay was not a choice but the only option. Vijay rushes to Geetha, talks to her and she finally confesses her love for him. However, she still plans to marry the already arranged suitor. That's when the flashback ends and Nithya proceeds to advise him on what to do as the wedding is happening in the next hour or so.
In the middle of the wedding rituals, Vijay mounts the marriage dais, stops the priest's chants and asks Phaneendra to stand. He falls at Phaneendra's feet in front of everyone and decides not to let go until Phaneendra gives in and agrees to let him marry Geetha. Geetha and Phaneendra agree and they marry.
Meanwhile, through misinformation fed to Geetha's suitor Kishore by one of Vijay's friends, that Vijay's family doesn't have enough dowry for Sirisha's wedding and therefore Vijay is forced to marry Geetha ,the suitor assumes all the fuss was about Vijay and his family not having enough dowry for Vijay's sister's marriage to Phaneendra. He leaves the dais angrily while Vijay is at Phaneendra's feet. He returns with the police to have the family arrested for demanding dowry. However, they realize the whole situation and leave.
As the credits start rolling Geetha and Vijay are seen to be travelling on a bus, Vijay kisses a sleeping Geetha on the cheek and she slaps him. Shocked, Vijay again begs for her forgiveness, but Geetha lovingly proceeds to kiss him.
Vijay Deverakonda as Vijay Govind
Rashmika Mandanna as Geetha
Subbaraju as Phaneendra, Geetha's brother
Mouryani as Sirisha, Govind's sister
Rahul Ramakrishna as Ramakrishna, Govind's friend
Vennela Kishore as Kishore, Geetha's bridegroom
Naga Babu as Govind's father
Annapoorna as Geetha's grandmother
Giri Babu as Geetha's grandfather
Kalyani Natarajan as Neelu's mother and Geetha's MD
Aneesha Dama as Neelu
Abhay Bethiganti as Govind's friend
Ravi Prakash as Ravi, a police officer
Chitram Seenu as Taxi driver
Gautam Raju as Police officer
Duvvasi Mohan as Priest
Nithya Menon in a special appearance as Nithya
Anu Emmanuel in a special appearance as Girl in Bus Stop
Kaveri as Govind's mother (Uncredited Cameo Appearance)
Prabhas Sreenu in a cameo appearance in the song "What the Life"
Soundtrack album by
Gopi Sundar
Feature film soundtrack
Gopi Sundar chronology
Pantham
(2018) Geetha Govindam
(2018) Sailaja Reddy Alludu
Singles from Geetha Govindam
"Inkem Inkem Inkem Kaavaale"
Released: 7 June 2018
The soundtrack of the film was composed by Gopi Sundar. Actor Vijay Deverakonda, made his singing debut through this film.[7] The makers unveiled the first single "Inkem Inkem Inkem Kaavaale" on 7 June 2018.[8] The song upon its release, its lyrical video crossed 1 million views in YouTube.[9] Within a day after its release, the song received few covers, including a reprise version and a dubsmash.[9] The soundtrack album features six tracks, including the first single being released. Lyrics for the songs were written by Ananta Sriram, Sri Mani and Sagar. The album was released on 21 June 2018, at an event held at JRC Convention Centre, Film Nagar, Hyderabad, with Allu Arjun becoming the chief guest.[10][11] The jukebox which was released in YouTube and other platforms during the launch, received 1 million views upon release.[12][13]
The soundtrack album received positive reviews from music listeners and audiences, with the songs "Inkem Inkem", "Yenti Yenti" and "Vachindamma" being praised. The song "What the Life" sung by Vijay Devarakonda, received applause from youngsters, hailing it as "youth anthem".[14] The sneak peek of the song, earlier titled "What the F" which was released before the audio launch, featured behind-the-scenes footage, with choreography by Jani.[14] However, it received backlash due to the objectionable lyrics, prompting the makers to change the title, to "What The Life".[15] The initial video being deleted from YouTube.[16][17]
Writing for The Times of India, Neetishta Nyayapati stated "The album of 'Geetha Govindam' as a whole offers three strong songs and two subpar ones. 'Inkem Inkem', 'Yenti Yenti' and 'Vachindamma' remain our favourites in this album, offering a softness and authenticity the last two numbers of the album don't. This one's definitely a worthwhile listen for this weekend."[18] Indiaglitz gave the album 3 out of 5 and stated "'Inkem Inkem' and 'Yenti Yenti' stand apart in the album. Excellent lyrics make it a worthy output. Gopi Sundar fares decently, over all."[19] 123Telugu stated "So much was expected of Geetha Govindam's album after Inkem Inkem became a rage. Gopi Sundar's composition of romantic numbers is great, but the other two numbers are just okay. Inkem Inkem, Yenti Yenti, and Vacchindamma are our picks and looks like they are enough to lift the film during its release time."[20] Moviecrow gave 3 out of 5 and summarised "Gopi Sundar regains his mojo partially with Geetha Govindam and Sid Sriram shines with the two brilliant tracks."[21] Milliblog commented "Gopi seems to be finding his mojo in Telugu again."[22] Siddhartha Toleti of Mirchi9 commented "Geetha Govindam is a pleasant and instantly likeable album with one huge blockbuster single. Parasuram continues to maintain his status as a director with good musical taste."[23]
"Inkem Inkem Inkem Kaavaale" Ananta Sriram Sid Sriram 4:27
"What the Life" Sri Mani Vijay Deverakonda 3:03
"Yenti Yenti" Sri Mani Gopi Sundar, Chinmayi 2:34
"Vachindamma" Sri Mani Sid Sriram 4:10
"Kanureppala Kaalam" Sagar Gopi Sundar 2:42
"Tanemandhe Tanemandhe" Ananta Sriram Anurag Kulkarni 1:35
Upon the announcement of the film's title, the makers announced that the film will be scheduled to release on August.[24] Later on mid-May 2018, the makers confirmed the release date as 15 August 2018.[25][26] The film was premiered on US, on 14 August, a day before the actual release.[26] The film received U/A certificate from the Indian Censor Board.[27] Geetha Govindam fetched ₹15 crore (US$2.1 million), from its theatrical rights.[28]
Critical reception[edit]
Sangeetha Devi Dundoo of The Hindu wrote "Parasuram avoids the melodramatic tropes. Gopi Sundar's music works beautifully for the narrative, with Sid Sriram's Inkem Inkem Inkem Kaavale growing into a new earworm. The welcome humour through Vennela Kishore, Rahul Ramakrishna and Abhay Betiganti also adds a touch of smartness".[29] The Times of India gave 3.5 out of 5 stars stating "Geetha Govindam has some good humour, fine music and a wonderful lead pair".[30] The Indian Express gave 3 out of 5 stars stating "What's refreshing about writer-director Parasuram's approach to this romantic-comedy is the way he has handled the leading man".[31]
Hindustan Times gave 3.5 out of 5 stars stating "Geetha Govindam is not about universe conspiring to bring you close to your loved ones, it is about how coincidences can come to bite your behind".[32] Idlebrain.com gave 3.25 out of 5 stars stating "Geetha Govindam has predictability attached to it. What works for the film are characterizations and performances by lead characters. Writer and director Parasuram writes an engaging screenplay and interesting characterizations. Some of the scenes appear routine, but he makes it up with screenplay".[33] Great Andhra gave 3.25 out of 5 stars stating "Geetha Govindam is quite old, oft-seen. When the plot is not new, screenplay and actors should do the magic. That is what director Parasuram does with the film".[34]
Firstpost gave 3 out of 5 stars stating "Geetha Govindam, despite its flaws, is a film that gets most things right associated with its genre. It's also a welcome departure for Deverakonda from Arjun Reddy, and proof of the fact that he's no 'one hit wonder' and still has it in him to deliver".[35] India Today gave 3 out of 5 stars stating "Geetha Govindam does not have an exceptional story that will make you say 'wow' from the word go. It's the same boy-meets-girl-and-how-they-fall-in-love-with-each-other story. But director Parasuram makes Geetha Govindam interesting with his clever writing".[36] IndiaGlitz gave 3.25 out of 5 stars stating "Geetha Govindam tells an atypical story using a regular format. And it works. Parusuram enlivens the proceedings by infusing comedy at almost every step. Vijay Deverakonda and Rashmika elevate the film with their splendid performances".[37]
Date of ceremony
Recipient(s) and nominee(s)
6 January 2019 Zee Cine Awards Telugu Sensational Hit of the Year GA2 Pictures Won [38]
Favorite Actor Vijay Deverakonda Won
Favorite Actress Rashmika Mandanna Won
Favorite Album of the Year Gopi Sundar Won
15 & 16 August 2019 South Indian International Movie Awards Best Film (Telugu) GA2 Pictures Nominated [39][40]
Best Director (Telugu) Parasuram Nominated
Best Actor (Telugu) Vijay Deverakonda Nominated
Best Actress (Telugu) Rashmika Mandanna Nominated
Best Music Director (Telugu) Gopi Sundar Nominated
Best Lyricist (Telugu) Ananta Sriram Nominated
Best Male Playback Singer (Telugu) Sid Sriram Nominated
Best Female Playback Singer (Telugu) Chinmayi Nominated
Critics' choice Best Actor – Telugu Vijay Deverakonda Won
21 December 2019 Filmfare Awards South Best Film – Telugu GA2 Pictures Nominated [41][42]
Best Director – Telugu Parasuram Nominated
Best Actor – Telugu Vijay Deverakonda Nominated
Best Actress – Telugu Rashmika Mandanna Nominated
Best Actress Critcs – Telugu Won
Best Supporting Actor – Telugu Rahul Ramakrishna Nominated
Best Music Director – Telugu Gopi Sundar Nominated
Best Lyricist – Telugu Ananta Sriram Nominated
Best Male Playback Singer – Telugu Sid Sriram Won
Best Female Playback Singer – Telugu Chinmayi Nominated
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8 Gauge Electrical Cable; JPS Labs In-Wall Cable. I spent some time researching audiophile grade in-wall power cable. There were several apparently good options and I settled on JPS Labs Power AC In-Wall cable. This is 10 gauge noise-rejecting cable at $24 per foot. I chose it in part because several other high end in-wall cables were 12 gauge, and my general experience has been that lower gauge worked better with amps. I had to order twice, because I did not order enough the first time to cover enough length for the two outlets I expected to use for the whole system. However, I also had the electricians install two other dedicated outlets, but wire them with regular commercial-grade 8 gauge cable. Since I installed a separate dedicated 100 amp box exclusively for the audio system, and since I determined not to have any 30-amp circuits (for my amps only) I ended up with 5 separate 20-amp circuits dedicated to audio – 2 with the 10 gauge JPS Labs In-Wall cables, 2 with commercial 8-gauge cable and 1 with standard 14 gauge cable. My rationale was that (1) I'd be able to test the actual effect of using each circuit; and (2) because we installed conduit for each cable it would be easy to pull new cable to replace it.
Below are pictures of the new electrical box installation, with the second picture showing the access to the box from an adjoining closet.
When my reconstruction was completed I had intended to continue biamping my speakers. However, the very first thing that came in for review when the project was complete was the Esoteric Grandioso C1 and M1 preamp and monoblock amps. I originally plugged the monoblocks into one of the 20 amp outlets wired with the JPS Labs cable and the C1 and my entire front end into another 20 amp outlet. The sound was very good. I then plugged each monoblock into a separate 20 amp circuit and plugged some of my front end into one of those same circuits and the rest into the other circuit, so that each monoblock would have access to more power. The sound improved perceptibly. I then plugged each of the M1s into a separate 20 amp outlet wired with the commercial 8 gauge wire and the entire front end into a 20 amp outlet wired with the JPS labs cable. The Esoteric representative (who brought the components for review) and I looked at each other and didn't have to say a word. Plugging the monoblocks into the outlets wired with the 8 gauge cable clearly sounded better than using the outlets wired with the JPS Labs 10-gauge cable, especially in the bass response and sense of body. To be sure we weren't hearing some anomaly, I plugged the front end into the same two 8-gauge circuits so we would mimic the prior configuration. Even though the highs were more muffled, the same improved bass and body remained. The best combination was clearly the monoblocks on the two 20 amp circuits wired with the 8 gauge cable and the front end on one of the two 20 amp circuits wired with the JPS Labs 10 gauge.
Furutech GTX-D NCF(R) Outlets. The other surprise related to the outlets for the dedicated audio circuits. I'd already been using upgraded outlets from Walker Audio, Synergistic Research and a few others. All of them improved the sound in specific ways – some more forward, some brighter, some faster – but in all cases I have to say that in my own system their improvements were fairly modest. However, I had heard some scuttlebutt about the newest Furutech outlets and decided to give them a try. This time the improvement was not subtle. The bass became much deeper and fuller, the vocals more natural and the soundstaging much more realistic and expansive. I have to say that every aspect of the presentation became better. This applied to all four circuits – both the circuits using the commercial 8 gauge cable and the audiophile 10 gauge JPS Labs In-Wall. I do not know whether the improvements would be as noticeable with regular 12 or 14 gauge wiring, but in my case every person who listened noticed. Adding these outlets was the crowning touch to the electrical system. They were so good that I may need to do a separate review and provide more detail.
About Connection Enhancements: McMaster-Carr 1219K57, Electrically and Thermally Conductive Grease. Several folks have promoted the use of silver paste/grease to enhance connections between electrical wiring, outlets and plugs. Among the most noteworthy is Lloyd Walker and his E-SST Contact Treatment. Most of these items incorporate silver flakes in a suspension in some type of oil or other grease. Unfortunately, in some cases, despite the initial improvements, the paste dried out and actually created audible negative effects. This wasn't an issue on connections that could be easily accessed and cleaned so that the treatment could be reapplied, but was not practical in my plan to add silver treatment to every connection from power inlet through audio circuit outlets. After some research, I stumbled upon McMaster-Carr 1219K57, Electrically and Thermally Conductive Grease, which reviews indicated did not dry out and has a very long life. I recommend you try it. However, be sure your electrician does not use too much. Mine initially used way too much at the outlet connection, and it resulted in a very "hot" presentation. After he wiped off most of the paste the sound became very fast and powerful, but with natural tonality.
Room Correction Added. Despite the significant efforts I've made with room treatments, I've been using room correction to great effect now for nearly 10 years. Despite some mild anomalies that can be created, my experience with electronic room correction has been very positive, with the improvement far outweighing any drawbacks.
Synergistic Research FEQ and HFTs. I'd been using the Synergistic Research FEQ and HFT's for several months prior to starting my listening room remodeling. I took the plunge without auditioning them, and achieved some nice but modest improvements following the manufacturer's suggestions. I simply reinserted them the same way after the renovation was done. However, about a month after I finished all my other system tweaking I realized I had one extra HFT 2.0. Impulsively, I added it to the front wall, which already had 7 HFTs of various types on it, all placed where suggested by the manufacturer. Much to my surprise, adding the single HFT 2.0 to the center of the front wall seemed to improve the vocals. I removed it to check if I was imagining things. Sure enough, the vocals lost some of their vibrancy. I had always had difficulty hearing improvements when placing HFTs on my speakers in accordance with the manufacturer's suggestions, so I replaced the single HFT 2.0 in the center of my front wall, and then took two HFT 2.0's off of the speakers and added them to the front wall to the right and left of the center HFT 2.0. Damned if it didn't make a very audible positive difference. The dimensionality of the soundstage improved, especially the depth of the sound. For the next 2 days I experimented with multiple front wall placements and eventually removed every HFT from my speakers and side walls and limited their use to the front and rear walls, with the vast bulk of the HFTs on the front. The very next day one of my listening buddies dropped by and within 5 minutes asked what I had done to get that much improvement in soundstage depth and midrange brilliance. The whole experience reinforced something that I have periodically concluded during my audiophile career: experiment freely with seemingly small adjustments and you may get totally unexpected improvements.
Vibrations. Vibrations both big and small can have very audible effects on the listening experience. As mentioned in Part 1, my listening room floor was elevated on joists and had significant "bounce" you could feel while walking across it. That's why I used 2 dual wall-mount turntable stands drilled into the front wall's supporting studs to hold my system's front end. I also used amp stands to get my amps off the floor. As also mentioned in Part 1, we determined it was impractical to pour new concrete under the entire floor, so we poured two long supporting concrete strips under 2" x 8" floor joists located under the front of the room. This effectively eliminated the "bounce" in the room and enabled us to build in the floor bass traps described above. However, an additional unexpected side effect of taking this approach was the ability to preserve the desirable bass resonances that the floor cavity created in the past.
Resonance in the Floor. Go to any symphony hall (OK, I don't know that this is true in every symphony hall, but certainly all the ones I've seen) and you will see the stage is a wood floor and has a cavity underneath. Furthermore, if you listen to a double bass being played on solid concrete compared to that same double bass on a wooden stage with a cavity underneath, you'll hear a difference in the resonance in the two venues. I don't know if it's "right" or "wrong," but I strongly prefer the sound produced in the venue with the wooden floor with a cavity underneath it. My music room previously had that quality, and that acoustic aspect of the room was retained even after the floor vibrations were eliminated by the installation of the concrete strips and the boom was eliminated by installation of the bass traps. I have had a few of my regular listeners comment on the pleasing effect of the mild resonance resulting from the cavity under the wooden floor.
The Sound of Wood; Jatoba. Many audiophiles swear by maple shelving and amp stands for their equipment. However, after some research, I elected to have all of my shelving, racks and amp stands made of Jatoba wood. Jatoba wood for shelving first came to my attention when I purchased Proscenium amp stands. Jatoba resonates virtually the entire audible frequency range humans are capable of hearing, including way down into the bass. Maple's resonances don't go down that low. You can tell me that I'm blowing smoke and don't know what I'm talking about, but I selected Jatoba based on this reasoning and a few unscientific experiments using difference types of wood under my components. Whether I was right or just lucky, use of the Jatoba wood for shelving has all but eliminated any type of undesirable external vibration. Four inch thick Jatoba was used for the amp stands, 3 inch thick for the shelves on the custom rack, and 2 inch shelves replaced the ½" plywood shelves of my dual wall-mount turntable stands.
The substantial weight of the four 3" Jatoba shelves used for the custom floor-standing rack was added to extremely heavy oxygen-free copper legs and points from Symposium Acoustics (maker of Symposium Rollerblocks and a wide range of equipment racks, shelves, etc.) All-in-all, the resulting floor-standing rack weighs around 250 pounds, has energy-draining points as its feet and sits on the floor directly over one of the under-floor concrete strips that were added to stabilize the room.
The 2" Jatoba shelves made for the wall-mount shelves sit on Mapleshade Black Isoblock 2's, which in turn sit on the wall-mounted rack. Since they are not directly connected to the floor, the isolation is excellent.
I also use Walker Audio Valid Points under each front end component, and this provides a whole additional layer of isolation. In addition, the Valid Points also act to drain microvibrations from the equipment itself.
The effect of all this effort is excellent vibration control even at the highest of volumes.
Final Touches and Tweaking. Of course, I also had to do some other things. I upgraded all of my power cords from Lessloss DFPC Signatures to Reference; I was able to make ultra-fine adjustments with the features available in the Legacy Wavelet (review to come); I acquired the fabulous tuneable Stealth Dream v14 speaker cables (review to come), and I started experimenting in earnest with alternate placement of the Synergistic Research HFTs.
The net effect of all of this is the best sound I think I can extract from the room without radically changing its dimensions. Early comments from long-time visitors are very positive (though they may be just humoring me). I'm looking forward to resuming equipment reviews in this newly-refurbished room (the Esoteric Grandioso C1 and M1 review is well along) and hope that it adds to the review process.
The thought and detail that went into consideration of all the elements is impressive. I may have missed your comment about it if you addressed it, but do you find the bank of windows without any apparent treatment creates any issues with the sound?
I am also in the process of building a dedicated A/V room in my basement. I also have been thinking of the installing built- in bass traps. Can the traps be initially tuned to a particular frequency by first varying the size of the cavity along with the size of the opening in the wall? Would the damping material then be used to fine tune the trap? I'm starting with a decoupled room.
Really informative article. I have a question about the Legacy Wavelet and its ADC. Since I listen equally to digital and analog (VPI Classic 3, TriPlanar Mk VII Ultimate arm, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, and Pass XP-15 phono), it's important that the ADC is up to the task. Will the Wavelet be equally good for both formats?
I'm also intrigued by your custom Jatoba rack. Where did you source the Jatoba shelves?
I have to first apologize for the delay in responding. I just submitted my review of the Wavelet, and it should be published soon. In a nutshell it is highly recommended.
I need some clarification on your question about the "ADC". I'm not aware of any Analog-to-Digital conversion done by the Wavelet. It has its own DAC, but a digital outboard device that has its own built-in DAC can be plugged into the analog inputs, and analog sources just get plugged in the analog inputs the same way.
If your question is how the Wavelet sounds when using the analog inputs, it's very good. I did not specifically do a critical-listening comparison of vinyl sources, but I did listen to digital devices that had their own DACs, and the sound of their analog output into the Wavelet's analog inputs was quite good – IMO equally to very high quality analog preamps.
As for the custom Jatoba racks, I had a carpenter select and make the shelves. He sourced the Jatoba slabs from a well-known local commercial lumber distributor – Oak Hardwood Lumber in Lombard IL.
Ed, great article. I have the Esoteric Grandioso C1 and M1 amps as well. I also ran multiple dedicated 8 gauge circuits of the same exact length. My question is if I run a JPS Labs in-wall power cable for a separate circuit just for my front end, will I get a ground loop problem if the length is different than my 8 gauge circuits? Thanks.


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Regulator Irdai on Thursday asked insurance companies to take steps for expeditious settlement of claims of loss to property due to subsidence and landslides in the calamity-affected areas in Uttarakhand.
The Insurance Regulatory and Development Authority of India (Irdai) has issued the circular for general insurers in wake of subsidence in Joshimath town of Chamoli district and subsequent evacuation and demolition of properties which have developed cracks.
"As you are aware, subsidence and landslide have caused loss to property in some areas in the State of Uttarakhand. There is an urgent need for the general insurers to take immediate steps to mitigate the hardships of the affected insured population by ensuring immediate registration and settlement of eligible claims," it said.
Irdai has asked the insurers to nominate a senior officer at the company level who would act as a Nodal Officer in the affected districts of Uttarakhand. The nodal officer would be coordinating the receipt, processing, and settlement of all eligible claims.
Insurers have also been asked to engage adequate number of surveyors immediately as required and, if need be, consider engaging surveyors from neighboring areas as well.
"We request you (insurance companies) to take urgent steps for expeditious settlement of claims in the affected areas and maintain the details of the same," the Irdai's circular said.
Meanwhile, crack meters installed in the damaged houses of Joshimath have registered no further widening of cracks in the last three days, but water discharge from an underground channel near J P Colony has shot up again to 150 litre per minute, a senior official said on Thursday.
Uttarakhand minister Satpal Maharaj said an inquiry will be conducted to find out how multi-storey buildings were allowed to be constructed in Joshimath which has been sinking for at least 20 years.
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