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iGuzzini is confirmed as one of the best employers in Italy
For the sixth consecutive year, iGuzzini obtains the Top Employers certification, confirming itself as an excellence in the HR field
The recognition, conferred this year to 131 Italian companies, is issued on the basis of selective parameters based on working conditions, benefits, career plans, investments in training and development, professional growth, inclusiveness, welfare tools and other initiatives to promote the well-being of the corporate population. All this, organized in 6 macro areas: Steer; Shape; Attract; Develop; Engage; United.
iGuzzini was recognized for an improvement in all 6 areas compared to 2021, in particular in the disciplines of Corporate Values, Ethics & Integrity, Culture of Feedback, Acquisition of Talent, Sustainability and Inclusiveness.
Cristiano Venturini, CEO of iGuzzini, declared: "Every action we take, in every area, is designed to improve people's quality of life. If we are recognized as a leader in our sector, the merit lies first of all with those who work with passion and competence every day in the search for continuous improvement. A close corporate ecosystem is the fundamental prerequisite for obtaining these results, so we are pleased to welcome the new recognition and we will immediately get to work to do even better next year ".
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iGuzzini achieves Top Employers 2023 certification
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Atlanta schools top peers – by far – in $100K+ salaries
Nearly 1,000 employees in five local school districts earned $100,000 or more in 2008-09, with the heaviest concentration by far in Atlanta Public Schools, an analysis of salary data shows. Administrative salaries face the knife across metro Atlanta as districts try to tighten budgets without harming classroom instruction. DeKalb last year paid more $100,000+ salaries — 223 — than any other Georgia district, followed by Fulton, Gwinnett, Atlanta and Cobb. For its size, though, Atlanta Superintendent Beverly Hall's district had more large salaries than the others.
21 legislators took $5K+ in freebies from lobbyists
Twenty-one Georgia legislators accepted gifts valued at $5,000 or more from lobbyists last year. Led by Senate majority leader Chip Rogers, the 21 legislators accounted for 10 percent of the $1.5 million in lobbyist handouts last year. We're talking gift baskets, food and drink, golf, sports and concert tickets, lodging and airfare. These are the lawmakers who can't say no.
Gift ban would hit government lobbyists hardest
Which lobbyists would be hit hardest by a proposed ban on $100-plus gifts to Georgia legislators? Hint: Lobbyist Dene Herbert Sheheane and the others hand out a lot of tickets to ballgames.
$220K transfer to ex-speaker's political fund may be illegal
Georgia law may prohibit ex-House Speaker Glenn Richardson's recent transfer of leftover campaign cash to a political fund under his control. On Dec. 31, a day before Richardson's resignation took effect, he cleaned out his re-election campaign's bank account with the transfer of $219,915 to the MMV Alliance Fund. One potential problem: MMV does not appear to be among the organizations that may legally accept unused campaign contributions.
University execs' deferred pay, often hidden, tops $7 million
When Wayne Clough left Georgia Tech last year, he drove off with $1.8 million in deferred pay, behind the wheel of a 2007 Lexus hybrid SUV given to him by the school's foundation. Carl Patton and Michael Adams have received similarly sweet deals. All told, 10 University System executives have pocketed or accrued more than $7 million since 2004 in deferred pay. Officials say furloughs will not affect the amounts.
Bolton returned luxury cars, then changed take-home policy
Ex-DeKalb police chief Terrell Bolton, fired for personal use of county vehicles, gave himself sole authority to approve use of take-home police cars late last year, records show. But that directive took effect several weeks after he returned two luxury cars, seized from drug dealers, that had been parked in the garage of his Stone Mountain home for much of 2008, according to evidence in an administrative hearing on his dismissal.
Judge lobbied legislator who was defendant in his court
An interesting sidebar to last week's legal malpractice trial of state Rep. Randal Mangham: The judge who gave Mangham a new trial in 2008 had to drop the case because he'd been lobbying the legislator to fund a program in his court. A DeKalb County State Court jury on May 6 awarded $625,000 in damages […]
DeKalb chief's comp time: Dinner … and a movie!
One Sunday last April, then-DeKalb County Police Chief Terrell Bolton suited up for a three-hour Buckhead dinner honoring two slain officers. On a Saturday night several weeks earlier, the chief spent three hours at the Atlanta premiere of the new movie by Tyler Perry, "Meet the Browns." And, for the 2007 holiday season, Bolton took […]
Investigators: DeKalb chief falsified records to hide cars
By JIM WALLS April 21, 2009 — Former DeKalb Police Chief Terrell Bolton told a subordinate to falsify police records to hide two luxury cars that the chief took home for personal use, investigative records show. Bolton kept the cars – a $32,000 Range Rover and a $55,000 Mercedes Benz – at home for much […]
Tax liens totaling $248K filed against 12 Georgia legislators
Liens for a combined $248,402 in back taxes have been filed against 12 Georgia legislators, property records show. State officials recently said 19 members of the General Assembly did not file a Georgia income tax return in 2007. The Revenue Department had not yet filed liens against them, so the legislators' names were blocked out […]
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GM Is Bringing Carbon Fiber To The Masses
Once reserved for the most exclusive vehicles and only occasionally found on the hoods of street racers, carbon fiber may be coming to a Malibu near you. GM has partnered with Teijin Limited, a Japanese carbon fiber manufacturer, to develop advanced composite materials for cars that mainstream buyers can afford. As car manufacturers look to […]
Once reserved for the most exclusive vehicles and only occasionally found on the hoods of street racers, carbon fiber may be coming to a Malibu near you. GM has partnered with Teijin Limited, a Japanese carbon fiber manufacturer, to develop advanced composite materials for cars that mainstream buyers can afford.
As car manufacturers look to shed weight and improve gas mileage, lightweight carbon fiber is becoming increasingly attractive -- and not just for high end concept cars like the Camaro ZL1 Carbon shown above. The composite material is ten times stronger than steel but weighs only a quarter as much. Replacing steel panels with carbon fiber is an easy way to build a lighter car without drawing a major redesign or sacrificing structural integrity.
In years past, the switch to carbon fiber would have put even an average car out of the price range of most buyers, as the material itself had been labor intensive to create. Now, Teijin has developed a method of mass producing carbon fiber that takes less than a minute to build each component. By comparison, back in the early '90s it took 3,000 hours to build the carbon fiber tub of a McLaren F1. GM's Vice Chairman Steve Girsky calls the democratization of carbon fiber a "game changer."
A decade ago, automakers like Audi and Jaguar began putting their largest sedans on aluminum diets, shedding pounds to build more efficient and nimble cars. GM hopes that their partnership with Teijin will yield similar improvements across their vehicle lineup, with lighter-weight cars that can more easily meet new fuel efficiency standards.
At this point, we only know that GM and Teijin are planning to build a research facility "in the northern part of the United States early next year." We don't know what parts will be made from carbon fiber, nor do we know which cars will get the composite treatment. We also don't know how much a switch to carbon fiber will cost the consumer, though we're pretty sure that insurance premiums may increase in proportion to the composite material content of a vehicle. Carbon fiber can splinter and shatter after a crash, requiring full part replacement instead of repair.
Neither GM nor Teijin is willing to tell much more. According to Teijin's Rie Mashiba, the companies won't comment on any specifics until the technology is "closer to market readiness."
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Q: Remove all text from last dot in bash I have a file named test.txt which has:
abc.cde.ccd.eed.12345.5678.txt
abcd.cdde.ccdd.eaed.12346.5688.txt
aabc.cade.cacd.eaed.13345.5078.txt
abzc.cdae.ccda.eaed.29345.1678.txt
abac.cdae.cacd.eead.18145.2678.txt
aabc.cdve.cncd.ened.19945.2345.txt

If I want to remove everything beyond the first . like:
cde.ccd.eed.12345.5678.txt
cdde.ccdd.eaed.12346.5688.txt
cade.cacd.eaed.13345.5078.txt
cdae.ccda.eaed.29345.1678.txt
cdae.cacd.eead.18145.2678.txt
cdve.cncd.ened.19945.2345.txt

Then I will do
for i in `cat test.txt`; do echo ${i#*.}; done

but If I want to remove everything after the last . like:
abc.cde.ccd.eed.12345.5678
abcd.cdde.ccdd.eaed.12346.5688
aabc.cade.cacd.eaed.13345.5078
abzc.cdae.ccda.eaed.29345.1678
abac.cdae.cacd.eead.18145.2678
aabc.cdve.cncd.ened.19945.2345

what should I do?

A: With awk:
awk 'BEGIN{FS=OFS="."} NF--' file

In case there are no empty lines, this works. It sets input and output field separators to the dot .. Then, decreases the number of fields in one, so that the last one is kept out. Then it performs the default awk action: {print $0}, that is, print the line.
With sed:
sed 's/\.[^.]*$//' file

This catches the last block of . + text + end of line and replaces it with nothing. That is, it removes it.
With rev and cut:
rev file | cut -d'.' -f2- | rev

rev reverses the line, so that cut can print from the 2nd word to the end. Then, rev back to get the correct output.
With bash:
while ISF= read -r line
do
  echo "${line%.*}"
done < file

This perform a string operation consisting in replacing the shortest match of .* from the end of the variable $line content.
With grep:
grep -Po '.*(?=\.)' file

Look-ahead to print just what is before the last dot.
All of them return:
abc.cde.ccd.eed.12345.5678
abcd.cdde.ccdd.eaed.12346.5688
aabc.cade.cacd.eaed.13345.5078
abzc.cdae.ccda.eaed.29345.1678
abac.cdae.cacd.eead.18145.2678
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(L-R) Gabby's mom and Gabby Windey
Gabby Windey Is Refreshingly Open About the Strained Relationship With Her Mom — Do They Talk?
By Jennifer Tisdale
Aug. 2 2022, Published 7:26 p.m. ET
There are two things that separate Season 19 of The Bachelorette from its predecessors. The most obvious is, of course, the fact that Rachel Recchia and Gabby Windey are co-Bachelorettes for the first time. The less obvious difference is Gabby herself, who is unlike any Bachelorette we have met before.
Gabby has revealed some things about her childhood that she feels sets her apart from previous contestants, including Rachel. Growing up, Gabby's relationship with her mother, Rosemary Hewitt, was complicated and strained, ultimately leading to Gabby's mom abandoning her. Naturally this left its mark on Gabby, which we see unfolding with each episode of the season. Here's what we know about Gabby Windey and her mother, and whether or not they talk.
Source: ABC
Does Gabby Windey talk to her mother, Rosemary Hewitt?
In previous episodes of this season, Gabby has dipped in and out of her story as it pertains to her mom. She even touched on it a bit when she was on The Bachelor. However, in Episode 4 of Season 19, Gabby finally felt comfortable enough during a conversation with Jason to share more of her painful history.
Gabby told him she and her mother are estranged. "She didn't have the capacity to love me as a kid. And she was really quick to take away love — like, oh, you know, if you don't do this and that, you'll have to go live with your dad."
Gabby went on to say, "I [didn't] ever want to lose my mom. That was so scary for me. And then when I left for college, she washed her hands of me and didn't want anything to do with me."
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Jason responded with his own journey in therapy, touching on things he's worked on. Fellas, listen up. This is attractive behavior. We want healthy minds!
Because Gabby is also in therapy, she was able to see how her mother's actions were affecting her relationships with men. "I've kind of had to learn how to allow people to love me, because I never had an example of receiving it as a child," she said.
A real hallmark of someone who has put in a lot of hard therapy work is the ability to empathize with where another person (in this case, Gabby's mom) is coming from.
"I think the hardest part is I love her so much," Gabby explained. "But, you know, you can't always — she just can't be in my life. She just doesn't have the tools to love me back."
In that moment, Gabby reveals that she understands the abandonment was her mother's fault and not because of anything she herself did. She also recognizes that her mom was possibly operating from her own place of generational trauma. As we all know, s--t rolls downhill.
Source: Instagram/@rosa_morada
(L-R): Allen Ware and Rosemary Hewitt Windey (Gabby's mom)
Where is Rosemary Hewitt now?
According to Rosemary Hewitt's own Facebook profile, she lives in Alvarado, Texas, where (like Gabby) she's a registered nurse. She's currently engaged to a man named Allen Ware, who popped the question on January 3, 2018, at a cabin in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico.
In January 2022, Rosemary shared a Distractify article about Gabby's pre-Bachelor dating life. Rosemary added two smiley face heart emojis, which prompted someone to comment, "Aren't y'all estranged?" In a response that can only be described as abrupt as her exit from Gabby's life, Rosemary simply wrote "yes."
Fans Are Rooting for Jason on 'The Bachelorette' — What Does He Do for a Living?
'The Bachelorette' Episode 4 Leaves Us With a Sinister Cliffhanger (SPOILERS)
Logan Is Officially the Villain of 'The Bachelorette' Season 19
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On Live at Scullers, saxophonist Grace Kelly offers a set mostly composed of new material which shows off her remarkable instrumental virtouosity and her winsome vocal versatility. She ups her style quotient with the likes of Jason Palmer on trumpet, Zach Brown on bass, Pete McCann on guitars/ukulele, Mark Walker on drum, Eric Law on cello. Jamie Woods & Chantale Sterling are her backing vocalists.
The opening track, "Please Don't Box Me In," is traditional yet contemporary. She melds the two styles seamlessly as Jason, Pete, Zach and Mark help her stretch her creativity. The stunningly diverse set of songs also features great performances inspired by Grace Kelly's environment, travels, friends and lovers. Listeners will hear her inspired moments on the smoldering "Night Time Star," her colorful homage about a visit to Montana on "Autumn Song" and her country-tinged ballad "Kiss Away Your Tears."
"Searching for Peace" won Grace Kelly the 2011 ASCAP Jazz Composers Award. It is a scintillating burner that takes you on a musical journey that you'll remember long after the song is over. The set closes with two familiar standards, both of which the saxophonist has recorded in the past. "The Way You Look Tonight" is reprised from Man With the Hat, and her groove-oriented take on "Summertime," which she previously recorded on her 2006 album Every Road I Walked.
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Q: iterator that runs on windows but not on linux I am currently programming a template matrix.
It contains a vector<vector<T>> called mat and cols and rows vals that contain the number of rows and columns.
I tried to build an iterator, and found out that I cannot build an iterator function for vector of vector. since the rest of my code was already written, i added a matrixToVector function which turn my vector<vector<T>> to vector<T> (I know it's not the best option, but it's just for a college exercise).
On my windows laptop in tuns great, but on the linux computer labs the first two number of the iterator are always a very large random number and then 0 and then the rest of the numbers are fine.
Here is the code:
    /**
     * turns the 2d mat vecor to 1d vector.
     */
    vector<T> matrixToVector()
    {
        vector<T> v;
        for(unsigned int i = 0 ; i < rowsNum; i++)
        {
            for(unsigned int j = 0; j < colsNum; j++)
            {
                v.push_back(mat[i][j]);
            }
        }
        return v;

    }

    /**
     * iterator
     */
    typedef typename std::vector<T>::const_iterator const_iterator;

    /**
     * return the end of the iterator.
     */
    const_iterator end()
    {
        return matrixToVector().end();
    }

    /**
     * return the begining of the iterator.
     */
    const_iterator begin()
    {
        return matrixToVector().begin();
    }

I don't have a clue what's wrong.
What should I do?
EDIT:
When I print the matrix with the regular printing function, it's works great on Linux and Windows.

A: const_iterator begin()
    {
        return matrixToVector().begin();
    }

you return reference to object on stack, result of matrixToVector() create temporary object, that will be destroyed after return from begin


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Travel Disruption
Saturday 25th January and Sunday 26th January 2020
Check your local station
Your questions about the East Coast Upgrade answered.
What is the East Coast Upgrade?
It is a £1.2bn infrastructure investment programme led by Network Rail that is due for completion ahead of the December timetable change in 2021.
Early improvement work has already taken place to get the line ready for the new train fleets, such as LNER's Azuma.
The work that is taking place through to 2021 is focused on three key areas, London King's Cross, Stevenage and Werrington.
You can find more detailed information about the programme of work:
How will it benefit passengers travelling on the route?
This significant upgrade will allow more long-distance trains to run each hour, creating capacity for up to 10,000 extra seats a day on these services. It will also deliver faster journeys and improve reliability for customers.
This is important as the East Coast Main Line is a vital network that carries 20 million passengers every year, linking London to Edinburgh via cities such as Peterborough, York and Newcastle along the way. There are also direct links to many other cities such as Hull, Leeds, Sunderland and Cambridge.
How will it benefit operations on the route?
The East Coast Main Line is one of the UK's main railway arteries. Its London terminus – King's Cross Station – is the 10th busiest station in the country, serving 38.5m passengers a year. With demand increasing, upgrades and improvements are essential. The Upgrade includes
New terminating platform built at Stevenage for London surburban services.
Dive-under constructed at Werrington, just north of Peterborough, to remove conflicts with freight services.
Complete renewal of the approach to London King's Cross station.
Upgrades to the track layout and overhead line equipment in the approach to King's Cross Station will:
Create a layout with the operational flexibility to run LNER's new Azuma trains and Hull Trains' Paragon fleet, with the benefits of increased speed and acceleration.
Separate long-distance services (LNER, Hull Trains and Grand Central) from the more frequent short distance commuter trains. (Great Northern, Thameslink).
Upgrade overhead line equipment further reducing the need for regular maintenance.
Simplify the track layout so that it can support the digital railway, helping to deliver more trains, reduced crowding, better connections and improved performance and safety for passengers.
Allow greater capacity for long-distance services in time for the new Open Access Operator from First Group to start running services between London King's Cross and Edinburgh by the December 2021
On what dates is work being done that affects passengers?
For more information on the dates when work is being done that affects passengers please see our Travel Advice page
How will travel on the route be impacted?
There will be some planned disruption to train services as we undertake this essential work. Detailed information for customers is being provided at stations, via advertising, online and through the local media.
Trains and replacement bus times (where applicable) will be available in journey planners, such as the National Rail Enquiries website – www. nationalrail.co.uk and the individual train operator websites
The rail industry is working to package the projects, which are underway at several locations on the line, together to reduce the number of times that customers are disrupted and allow them to plan their journeys with confidence.
What work has been done so far?
You can find more details of the work taking place at Newark, Stevenage and Werrington:
The largest element of the programme is the King's Cross Track Improvement. Once completed in 2021 it will enable two more long distance trains to run each hour, improve reliability and reduce journey times for passengers.
The multi-million pound investment at King's Cross will help to transform train travel in and out of the station by replacing 1.5 miles of track, signalling and overhead line equipment at the approach.
The work increases the number of tracks into the station from four to six, through the re-opening of a disused railway tunnel.
The current design of the track layout into King's Cross station is outdated and has become harder to maintain. While the station itself was modernised in 2012, the existing track and signalling at the approach has not been improved since it was installed over 40 years ago.
In addition, the signalling system from King's Cross to Peterborough is being transferred from the King's Cross Signal Box to the Railway Operation Centre in York as part of Network Rail's nationwide re-signalling programme. This will allow for the signal box at King's Cross to be demolished, opening up the space for the new tracks into the re-opened tunnel.
How are you ensuring that this long-term project will be delivered successfully?
Projects work best when the industry works together to look after our customers.
We are using the lessons learned from many other successful projects, including the Brighton Main Line improvement, the Waterloo & South West upgrade, the Bath Spa station improvement, Nottingham station re-modelling, as well as the Birmingham New Street and Liverpool Lime Street station projects.
In addition, we are working closely with Transport Focus, the independent transport user watchdog, who are conducting regular customer surveys to monitor the effectiveness of our communications.
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Evernote General Discussions
Anyone Else Thinking of Switching?
By tony10000,
October 13, 2020 in Evernote General Discussions
davidtderrick 22
davidtderrick
Some missing images (and possibly pdfs). They are listed, but are inaccessible. Other people have posted screenshots. I can still access them via the Mac client.
tony10000 36 posts
DTLow 16 posts
eric99 13 posts
davidtderrick 8 posts
As a life-long programmer, software architecht and former CEO of a Nasdaq traded technology company...it is crystal clear to me what's wrong with the latest release of Evernote. They're trying to "syn
gazumped
Hmmn. I agree with half that statement. My frustration with everyone's negative reaction so far has been that early adopters, who had an option, (with the exception of iOS) still chose to update t
WilliamL
No, I'm not thinking about switching currently. Evernote's custom templates, note merge, multi platform access and tags system are exceptional and there is no near level equivalent. I tried notion but
Stuhrer 238
Stuhrer
9 minutes ago, davidtderrick said:
Yes, I also lost images and PDFs by using the new iOS client. I uninstalled the iOS client from my iPad. Currently, I am only using the Mac client (old version) and the Web client which also works in Safari on my iPad. I have absolutely no trust in the new versions. If this is not getting better soon I will switch to Notion.
bwydoogh 6
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49 minutes ago, eric99 said:
Have you, and what where the circumstances?
Took handwritten notes, during meeting lasting 2 hours. After hitting "Done", I saw the spinning wheel. For several minutes. Closed Evernote, opened the note again, ... proposed to restore the previous note (as it detected there were unsaved changes; so far so good). My handwritten notes appeared back again and I tried to save the note. Again the spinning wheel. For several minutes. Tried that process once again. Fourth time: empty note. Nothing to recover.
Dropping features: OK; losing data: very, very bad.
No feedback from the support team on this issue.
So Noteshelf it is now (at least on iPad).
toao 128
toao
6 hours ago, Alvin C said:
Joplin is okay for me, but on MacOS it can't work. Will follow their updates and see. Standard Notes are great to have end-to-end encryption, but not sure if it is good for me (need to pay for more functions). Finally came between Bear and Apple Notes.
out of curiousity and trying to learn: what's wrong with joplin on mac? worked for me, even as I have finally settled for Devonthink and am very happy so far. Did you look at that and if so, why did you decide against it? thanks...
pgbobs 1
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I'm not considering switching, but I did revert to the pre-10 version after trying version 10 on my Windows desktop a couple of days ago. Tagging was glitchy (start typing a tag, EN predicts and presents the tag, click on the tag and nothing), the delete key on my keyboard would no longer work to delete a note and the control function to delete a note was glitchy, sometimes it worked and other times it did not. But most important was the dramatic reduction in the response rate. A deleted message (if it worked) would take up to 15 seconds to delete and again, sometimes it did not work. Dragging and dropping the note into Trash was also very slow, deleting with the Delete key use to be almost instant. The preview of a note was also substantially slower. Overall, much slower throughout.
I'm going to stay with the older version for a few months and try 10 again in the future. I may reach out to EN for ideas as well. I'd be curious to hear if anyone else is having slowdown issues.
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40 minutes ago, Benny Wydooghe said:
I fully agree, losing data is completely unacceptable!
Luckily I haven't experienced this on my windows version. After I just installed version 10, I noticed a stale note, without content for a longer time, but that was while building the database in background. Since then, it is extremely stable.
s2sailor 1,020
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20 hours ago, eric99 said:
I don't understand what all the fuzz is about but that's probably because I use EN as it was initially intended...
I think a different way of saying this is that you don't have a workflow that is impacted by the limitations of v10. Many of us do.
Mountainside 15
As a life-long programmer, software architecht and former CEO of a Nasdaq traded technology company...it is crystal clear to me what's wrong with the latest release of Evernote. They're trying to "sync" the way the desktop and browser implementations of Evernote work from a procedural perspective, making both dependent on databases in the cloud--but the reality is, as of this year internet latency and bandwidth is still not enough for most people to make the "cloud-like" dependencies they're starting to use in the desktop version, responsive enough to be comfortable for desktop users.
A lot of what made Evernote great on the desktop was zero latency to add and update notes and so forth. This might be practical to implement with cloud/public internet dependencies five or ten years from now, but as of right now, by transitioning a lot of the Evernote processes to depend on network connections, they've turned the desktop version into a sloth that hangs/freezes a lot of the time while waiting for network traffic. The way I see it, that's a big mistake--possibly fatal for the product. Hopefully they've amassed a big stockpile of cash to withstand the upcoming cancellations and hit to the brand while their user base seeks other products that can bring their desktop experiences back to where they -used- to be with Evernote: Fast, seamless, with some kind of background "sync" process available to update things while not cutting in to the desktop user's productivity and valuable time.
Our time is too valuable to be spend waiting for network traffic on our desktops. It wasn't necessary to make the desktop version dependent on the cloud ... if that's what we wanted, we could have simply run evernote in our web browsers. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course but the way I see it, most of what made evernote great was the speed available with the desktop version while being able to occasionally log in from a browser if necessary.
41 minutes ago, s2sailor said:
I'm not going to elaborate too much, but to summarize, I don't expect EN to be a word processor or spreadsheet or painting program or ...
Apart from my quick notes, which are completely edited in the EN editor, my more sophisticated content is created in specialized tools, Word, Exel etc
The remaining text in the note then glues all included documents together. This (meta)data can also be searched in case the included documents are encrypted.
I was also a big fan of the Top List view, but now that I'm forced to use the left pane, I suddenly realize that this is a very good alternative and perhaps even more intuitive: at the left side, the list can be longer, and it fits nicely next the editor pane on a 16:9 monitor.
8 hours ago, Mountainside said:
Yesterday I tested performance while editing (I pasted a 150 pages document into a single note) and noticed no lag while typing. I disconnected the network and was able to proceed without any problem. Search is possible while disconnected. After reconnect, it syncs nicely. All my data is stored in a local database. Is this different from version 6 ?
Sometimes I have the impression that there is a lot of complaining without testing the actual product...
Are we talking about the same product? I'm on EN for windows...
You are missing the point. We have been using workflows based on what Evernote is (or was). v10 breaks many of those workflows. It is not a case where we are trying to use Evernote as not intended.
Yesterday I tested performance while editing (150 pages document) and noticed no lag while typing.
It's not about lag while typing. It's about network lag when adding new records, updating old records, and from what I can tell, more or less anything that modifies the evernote database...all of those processes are hitting the cloud database in real time, in the foreground--instead of syncing in the background, as they did before, thus dramatically slowing down the responsiveness of the desktop app.
Needless to say, not a fan.
I understand that new versions of software are generally met with protest from users who need to re-learn and adapt to the new way of doing things. Experienced many "user base revolts" over the years in my career while designing upgrades to software products. However the point is, once the users *do* learn how to adapt to the new system, it should be better in some way..."syncing" the desktop UI with the cloud in real time is a laudable goal--I'd imagine the team is working towards real time collaboration at some point in the future which would admittedly be awesome--but the reality is public networks are just too darn slow in terms of latency, still, to make it a wonderful experience for desktop users.
If we were all sitting 1ms away from the cloud with no network interruptions, ever, on gigabit connection, it would probably be different. We're not there yet.
At least for the desktop version, processes that depend on network traffic should be relegated to the background, where they were. At least for now. They can be made to run in the background a few hundred milliseconds behind the desktop user and update on the fly...but the desktop interface should not freeze/hang while waiting for traffic. Ever.
The hit to performance on the new desktop version is painful ... seriously painful. I'm not whining here for no reason...the hanging and experience-wide slowdowns are not a good thing.
A disappointment indeed because EN has been great to work with until now.
I have already finished switching.
Personally, I'm not participating in this switching frenzy; to version 10, to apple notes, to ...
I am happily using the legacy version with no issues
btw You might find it difficult to switch data out of apple notes
I said "as initially intended". During the last ten years, also on request by power users, EN has been extended with a lot of extra features.
Of course I realize there are missing features, but this shouldn't be a surprise: it was already announced a couple of months ago, the first release wouldn't contain all features. So this was planned and I'm confident that many features will return. That said, I've experienced myself that sometimes a small adaptation of your way of work(flow), may lead to surprisingly new insights: as I already explained, I was used to the Top List view and now I realize that the left list is probably superior, at least for me.
I also had to adapt my scanner workflow, but I can live with it until they re-implement it (Ian mentioned this in his last interview).
Steven Eff 11
Steven Eff
I'm mainly an iOS and iPadOS user with occasional forays into the Windows and Web clients.
Yes, there are features missing which we loved and used before, but Evernote was up front about that and that they have confirmed they're bringing features back once they have migrated the code base for those functions.
The only things I am really missing are Apple Watch support and iOS/iPadOS 14 shortcuts API support.
There are also features we have never had before which Ian Small and the team have said will be coming in the next 6 months. This is good news as we can agree there has been no innovative new feature for a good 2 years now. The new code base is allow the developers to actually develop instead of patching and transposing.
For me, I'm seeing the new Evernote apps as the first step on a new journey. Some of the 'places' on the way will be familiar features as they return to the app and some of them will be brand new features.
If the latest Mac/WIndows version doesn't do it for you, they still have the older 'legacy' versions available. This is the same as they have done with the web client for over 12 months. The functionality is still there if you require it.
For iOS/iPadOS users, the legacy version isn't available because Apple doesn't allow developers to have older app versions available in the App Store if your OS can take the latest version. So a lack of 'rollback' on that platform isn't the fault of Evernote.
V10 is a work in progress building from a new stronger and more flexible foundation. Stick with it.
15 minutes ago, DTLow said:
Yeah, this is one of the things which lets Apple Notes down a bit. It can be done, but it is a case of copying and pasting each item of text and each file one at a time...a heck of a faff frankly.
That's correct and we have built workflows based on how Evernote evolved and ones we hope to eventually use on v10. I'm not debating the direction Evernote is taking, I actually agree with it. The surprise is that they released v10 too early. It was too stripped down to be useful for many of us.
Very little was communicated prior to the release of v10. The permanent removal of local notebooks, a key feature for me, was not early announced, though I suspected it was coming.
It was too stripped down to be useful for many of us.
I think it is probably useful for 95% of the users, except... EN management forgets that they are paid by the remaining 5%
7 minutes ago, eric99 said:
EN management forgets that they are paid by the remaining 5%
That's very true. It's why these things get through the net. 95% don't complain. Their demands are practically zero, and they don't notice anything.
Mesoman 6
Mesoman
Evernote also broke tags in another way, that breaks my workflow. This is very disappointing.
If you want to browse your notes in a hierarchy, the only way past a 2 deep level is to use a hierarchy of tags. This is due to Evernote's poor decision to not allow nested notebooks.
So I organized my hundreds of notes that way.
Now, it is broken. Any note in the hierarchy that is next to another level of the hierarchy is now invisible to browsing!
Tag 1 - top of hierarchy
Note 1 with tag 1
Tag 1.1 - next level of hierarchy
Note 1.1 with tag 1.1
Note 1 is invisible when you browse through tags. Needless to say, I now have a bunch of notes I cannot access directly, and which will have to be re-organized.
But worse (and this is how I discovered this) - if you have a bunch of notes at a level in the hierarchy, and then you add another level at that point, all those notes disappear from browsing where you could see them before.
This is *not* an improvement. It may be the last straw for me. Considering Joplin as an alternative (and it is also free).
tony10000 113
They should have never forced the rollout of the new version until it was functionally complete.
They are trying to fix the plane while it is flying. It is not working well for them.
Plus most of the guys who do reviews don't notice any of these bugs. They just rehash the press releases.
Just now, davidtderrick said:
I thought they did extensive beta testing.
Everluke 10
Everluke
On 10/14/2020 at 8:59 AM, dagbo said:
So far so good for me. I have had zero problems with the new Windows versions, and while I would like the Import Folder, ability to manage Tags as previous, and miss the ability to set Styles and view options for individual views, I'm pretty happy. I still find having to see "Shared With Me" in the left panel annoying - I do not share Evernote files with anyone, and would like to turn that off.
However, I really like the new Editor, and am especially happy with the way that Reminders are implemented, notably the functionality when setting them in individual notes. I think the merge feature is greatly improved too.
The new version feels stable and as I'm using the Android Beta the user experience feels, for the first time, consistent across these two platforms - or as consistent as they can be given the screen size difference.
My verdict is - those of us using the new release are absolutely beta testers, but I have faith in the company to improve the release and add back in the features that are missing. And the improvements in the editor and reminders outweigh any negatives for me.
My two cents...
Couldn't have put it better - no problems for me on Windows 10 app, benefits outweith the negative by a country mile.
I flirted with Notion and imported all my trello and en into it thinking one tool was the answer. Couldn't find anything, but hey, it looked really pretty. Now moving my notes back to EN.
hl3401 0
On 10/14/2020 at 3:15 AM, aviaryan said:
Went back to v7 for now. Will stay there for few months at-least, then decide.
IMHO, one of the bigger features of Evernote was its light footprint and snappiness. Part of it could be because it was a native app.
I am not sure that if it is worth sticking to Evernote if they want to switch to web technologies. There are more feature-rich alternatives like Notion or Roam Research in that case.
I wish I knew how to go back to my earlier version. I naively updated today...what a mistake.
CalS 4,664
7 hours ago, eric99 said:
Initially intended is a moot point of sorts. EN morphed and use cases morphed with it. No better or worse, more fitted or less fitted, just use cases that took advantage of the capabilities of EN across time. EN's option to reformat the product for sure, the how has been what's aggravated those using the features that were gutted. To the point a lot of its uniqueness in my view. 🤷♂
4 hours ago, hl3401 said:
The legacy app is well hidden:
https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote
michaelsalk 0
michaelsalk
Yes! I am now considering changing. I have been an avid Evernote user for many years. I use it on Windows, Web and Android. Periodically, as other competitors make improvements, I review and consider changing. Now, with this latest upgrade, I will take another serious look.
It has only been a couple of days, but the issues I am having with the version 10 are looking for be show-stoppers.
Auto-start on Windows startup is now missing. I submitted a ticket, and the response was to upgrade to the latest version (version 10.2.24). This did nothing.. .maybe caused the below issue:
Clicking on the minimized tray Evernote icon now brings up a scratch pad. This could be useful, but I prefer to pull up the note list like before. Now, I must right click on the icon, and select Open Evernote.
In Windows, the main screen displays the sidebar, note list, AND a view of the note on the far right. I do not want that note view on the far right. I like having a very small note list window.
I will be looking at alternatives.
On 10/27/2020 at 10:35 AM, eric99 said:
I fully agree, I really like the new version, especially because it is very stable and robust, which is exceptional for a first release. I don't understand what all the fuzz is about but that's probably because I use EN as it was initially intended...
"Initially intended" may have upset some folks, but I understand your meaning
I'm not in agreement with "stable and robust", but I'm sure issues will get resolved
Yes, it's a "first release" and I fully expect to see issues, missing features, ...
For this reason, my primary devices are still running legacy versions
Why did the fix what wasn't broke? Why give us a less feature rich alternative? Why force folks to use it (web version)?
No answers from Evernote!
8 minutes ago, tony10000 said:
I thought Evernote was very clear about redeveloping the product to use a common framework
1 minute ago, DTLow said:
That is fine, but sticking paying customer with an inferior, unstable, and unfinished product is not cool!
Mac and Window users are not stuck; Legacy version at https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314?fbclid=IwAR2TNqp-eGRH3Ds8Vfu-CiKPjYolJzZ_keR9eWQaDahJ2GN-7hwn595zI8w&__s=bsetfdgzirbvqtopurph
2 minutes ago, DTLow said:
Yeah, but I found incompatibilities. When the web switched over, I just got the spinning disc on the web and it locked up Chrome. I could only fix it by upgrading the Windows version. Other folks are having issues with the iOS version.
JSB-FR 14
JSB-FR
I've been an enthusiastic EN user since 2012, I'm happy to pay for a product I like and want to support even I don't really need to, but this new features, which have disturbed the way I enjoyed this program (win 10 user, french version), make me totally rethink this relationship - so unless I'm blind, this is what has become really irritating to the point of giving it up
- clicking on lower right taskbar icon now opens a note, not the program, no matter how many times I click - I haven't seen any way to change this behavior. I consult more EN than I create notes, ok, i can right click but it's irritating to change something I've used tens of time daily for the last years
- no more top bar where I can add shortcuts, really? as if EN gave a lots of options before so users could customize its use for their ergonomic needs. I used only marginally the left menu shortcuts. Now I have to.
- this is probably the only software I have when I can't get a decent options/ preferences tab with all the things I can tinker with, it's just not there any longer (Where the heck can I decide if I want EN to launch on windows startup or not?) I'm pushed (or pulled) to the online version of my account, which asks for my password 2 or three times but doesn't give me this option
EN problem has always been for me the lack of customization, now they're scaling down users options even more. I'm not game with this trend at all, and unless I have a very buggy version, it smells like sanoraya to me
Now, I'll have to look for a previous version that hopefully this new update/ downgrade won't make it impossible to get back to
gazumped 7,717
30 minutes ago, JSB-FR said:
Hi. https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote
Thanks Gazumped but I'm not sure I understand (and want to) what this legacy version entails, I was perfectly happy with previous version which I found and reinstalled. Won't check any update for a loooong while and will preciously keep my 6.25.1.9091 safe. Oh goodie lookie, I find an option menu which lets me choose, NOT TO check for udaptes, unchecked -
PinkElephant 1,356
PinkElephant
"Legacy" is just another word for the last stable release of EN before v10 was rushed on us.
It can be downloaded and installed, and it can even run side by side with a v10 client on PC and Mac. Just be aware that each of the clients has its own database, which means double memory usage by the two installed versions.
TheWorldJoker 6
TheWorldJoker
All the talk about "using as intended" is funny. Here's how this crazy power user with a custom workflow loses data:
Open iOS app
Type in some text or create an audio note
Save and close the note
When the data loss happens (quite frequently to me before I stopped using the app), all of the data is gone, with no history or recourse. I just have a blank note left.
1 hour ago, TheWorldJoker said:
Opposite universe here. Last night I edited a note on V10 on my iPhone and ended up with two versions of the note on my desktop in the morning. Nice. Thankfully my iPad is still old school.
egypturnash 14
egypturnash
My oldest note in EN is from January 2010; I've been a paid user for most of that time. I am definitely looking into switching away; sure, I can keep using EN 7.something on my Mac, but I can't roll back the IOS clients from the sluggish unusability of EN10 and "capturing random thoughts quickly on my phone" is a lot of what I've used EN for.
I am currently working on a note in EN with my opinions on other note apps. It may be the last thing I write in Evernote. Perhaps if your needs align with mine (no Electron apps allowed, needs to have Mac/iOS/Windows/Android clients, needs to deal gracefully with PDFs and images placed in notes, needs to be able to collaborate with other people) it will be helpful: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s46/sh/16bf3b4b-7603-4828-aa7c-52db8cb95c8d/87e98644d8050f5ccfaacf089c07e2a7
Also I have found a post on the Evernote subreddit with an evolving list of EN alternatives, with some kind of attempt made to list which particular EN features various apps have:
Current Evernote migration status: watching the OneNote EN importer preview ssssslllllooooowwwwlllllyyyyy import my 1487 notes, if you have a ton of notes then look elsewhere IMHO!
avevers 49
avevers
3 minutes ago, egypturnash said:
I'm doing the same thing in Evernote but haven't much more to conclude right now.
That Reddit thread is great isn't it?
I'm interested in Nimbus but don't care for the limited data cap.
10 minutes ago, avevers said:
Nimbus has a lot of features but it sure is failing the "aaargh I hate Electron apps and their utter disregard for normal conventions of OSX keyboard shortcuts" test for me, and that's one of the things that's making me look into switching.
1 minute ago, egypturnash said:
It seems like the whole world is going Electron these days because it is multi-platform and web compliant. I wish more folks would use Qt Framework.
40 minutes ago, tony10000 said:
Why Qt, @tony10000? Genuine question; not familiar with either framework...
1 hour ago, egypturnash said:
Not a particularly optimistic outlook is it?
It is a nice and very stable Framework that a lot of mature apps use. For example, Scrivener is Qt. Plus, a ton of other apps:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_(software)
Vstk 22
Vstk
I did notice a significant performance improvement on 10.2 compared to 10 and 10.1 on my computers. Still nowhere near as fast as native, but unfortunately it seems like the only native multiplatform option is OneNote and I have many other reasons to hate it
1 hour ago, Vstk said:
Evernote V6, which is perceived as a performant implementation, is written in javascript running on CEF3 (chromium framework). Electron is based on CEF as well.
Therefore, a good performance should be possible in electron too. There is still hope 🙂
I am switching over to FREE OneNote. Can anyone think of a reason why I shouldn't?
It is sad that we see so many people who are very loyal to the Evernote platform and really don't want to leave. Yet, they are forced to make a difficult decision because the company is tone deaf to their needs and does not clearly communicate its intentions.
As Evernote is privately owned and funded by VC, I fear for its survival.
It is sad that we see so many people who are very loyal to the Evernote platform and really don't want to leave. Yet, they are forced to make a difficult decision ...
I am a user of the Evernote services, and really don't want to leave
Still using the Legacy software
I'm not being "forced to make a difficult decision"
I'm not "forced to make a difficult decision"
Yeah, but the legacy version is a dead end and who knows how long it will continue to work?
Just now, tony10000 said:
So, someday in the future I will be "forced to make a decision"
I expect by then the Evernote v10 will be completed, and will be an option
@tony10000Oh, I need to worry about this, and be afraid of that ?
Not my thing: Legacy works, v10 improves, maybe the two developments meet nicely at some point in the future. And maybe not - this is something to take care of when the time has come to do so.
Until then: Don't worry, be happy 😎 !
That will only happen if the company is still in existence. Given what I read in their Wiki, I am wondering if they can survive if they suffer a mass exodus of paying users.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evernote
That is why I am looking at other options. YMMV...
... and maybe a big stone falls from the sky, right on their heads !
Then maybe there is something to worry about for me.
Maybe the stone does not fall on them, but on me ...
Then I need not worry any more - and I will regret every second spend worrying instead of living !
P.S. A few month ago, the forum was full of doubts "EN does not innovate, they will fold". Now it is "Whoops, they released, and I don't like it, so they will drown". Let me assume that next year, we will have another crisis, and another, and ...
At least they are privately hold and not forced to live by quarterly reports to the vultures.
10 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:
It is funded by VC...and VC firms look for profits. If profits aren't there, the funding disappears. Looks like they are currently debt funded: https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/42706-63#overview
1 hour ago, tony10000 said:
If this forum keeps spreading nothing but this kind of messages and negativity as we have seen last month, it will be a self fulling prophecy for sure...
1 minute ago, eric99 said:
If this forum keeps spreading nothing but this kind of messages and negativity, it will be a self fulling prophecy for sure...
I am just waiting for Evernote to throw us a bone. They have been very tight-lipped lately about the new release, stability issues, and missing features.
1 minute ago, tony10000 said:
Agreed, I have the same feeling
3 hours ago, michaelsalk said:
You should try it for a while. In my experience, sync is terribly slow and buggy. I've dealt with all kinds of problems trying to migrate my notes and sync them to all my devices.
Some really basic features and options that should be part of the program require macros. I realized I would probably end up paying for Onetastic. For example, you can't sort your notes automatically (by date, name,...). There is no option for new notes to be added on top of the list of notes as is the case in Evernote. So you always end up with your newest note being burried all the way down. There is no note preview / thumbnail, neither a text extract nor an image. So you actually have to fill in a proper title for every single note to have something you can work with. OneNote web clipper doesn't allow you to clip a complete webpage. It will take a screenshot, which is inferior to an html clipping where you can readily follow links, select and copy text, etc
You should look into the options you have when/if you want to move your notes out from OneNote. It does not look good at all. You will probably end up with a bunch of PDFs
Sayre Ambrosio 302
Sayre Ambrosio
Evernote Certified Consultant
If you're on Mac you may want to try it before you switch completely. OneNote is not the same on the Mac platform as it is on Windows. It is missing key features that I used for years on OneNote on Windows before switching. I have brought this up numerous times to their team and get the "well then buy a Windows machine answer". There's also NO clipper for Safari. They can't be bothered to update it like thousands of users have asked them to do. (It's a hot topic in their forums). You also can't save notebooks wherever you want on Mac, you are stuck with OneDrive.
What about Google Keep?
I used to use it but found the web version somewhat unreliable and there is no offline version.
It is integrated into Gmail and Google Docs which is nice.
Manya70 8
Manya70
I have moved to Click-Up. Does not have the clean interface and ease of finding notes but has everything else I have been asking Evernote to add for years. The final straw was support. Super quick response from Click-up. Evernote support on the other hand, did not respond to me when I went back to the free version and I gave my frustrations in the feedback.
I work in Software Development so I understand about not publicly announcing what may in a future releases etc. But I feel that silence is part of a bigger communication issue. EN should have communicated a year ago that the new windows client still had alot of work to be done and the initial release would be missing alot of key features that would be be brought back over time. Instead the expectation through silence was that the re-write was going great, a bit off track but going to bring it into line with what key competitors have in the market.
There is no Evernote to Click-Up migration tool so I will keep my old notes in Evernote, but after 9 years as a premium user they are not getting one more cent from me.
I am seriously looking at Nimbus Note. It is the closest product that I have found to EN and the pricing is much lower. Has anyone switched to it and what have your experiences been. Just curious.
aashish108 8
aashish108
It's the closest but still feels rough.
Importer does not import 100% of enex in some cases. Its kinda minor but there has been some major instances.
Sometimes slow performance than even new Evernote.
Non-hierarchical tags means a long list of tags.
New Evernote dark theme beats Nimbus's.
A lot of tools support Evernote import from enex files. Not with Nimbus which exports to html or pdf. So feels like more of a lock in?
Transferring notes to another workspace is buggy, slow in Nimbus.
Nimbus web clipper on chrome has a lot of bad reviews compared to Evernote.
You can't share a folder to a specific email. You can only make a folder totally public or make. It public and password protect it. I prefer Evernote's model of sharing.
Oh and Nimbus is on Amazon Web Services while Evernote is on Google Cloud for what it's worth!
Evernote has over 200 million users while Nimbus only has over a million.
Otherwise I'm still trying to play with Nimbus to see if it works out.
The major thing Nimbus has going for it is it's first class support; they get back to you quick and even talk to the developers directly so they can work on stuff. It's also in development which seems really fast. I have no doubt Nimbus will be very far in a years time.
With all this said and from my previous post, still not sure about Nimbus. As Evernote might get it sorted soon.
I've kinda given up and will just stick to Evernote unless another disaster happens.
I have had enough of notes!!!
11 minutes ago, aashish108 said:
Today in Evernote, after moving my notes to different notebooks / notebook piles, I have realized 13 notebooks simply disappeared on my iPad (sync is completed and I tried to reinstall the app). Not sure it gets much worse...
Nimbus Note doesn't sound that great from what I am reading. I would also worry about the "lock in" and future of NimbusWeb. So, I will stay put and see what happens as I adjust my workflow.
rob24hrs 36
rob24hrs
Are they Russian coders? Nimbus was looking promising but alarm bells going off......https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/111887-go-take-a-look-at-nimbus-note/?do=findComment&comment=522360
54 minutes ago, rob24hrs said:
Alarm bells? Their HQ is reportedly a tech hub here in Cleveland. From a Twitter convo with them:
Nimbus Note @nimbuswebinc
Replying to @tony10000
@tony10000 Hi there, Nimbus is the US based company and we fully comply with the US law. Some of our team members are from various countries, but that's common practice nowadays to keep prices more affordable. Thank you
WilliamL 139
I have to say I don't trust nimbus notes one iota. There last privacy policy was shocking, it literally said we grant them royalty free access to all our data! They have 'fixed' this (why did they miss that in the first place) and their reply to me - get this - linked me to Evernote forums as evidence they had changed it! So their staff are lurking here no doubt trying to farm off users and I just don't think that's ethical. Deeply uncomfortable with so much of their practices.
h3artbe_at 12
h3artbe_at
Am switching, canceling my sub, but keeping existing notes around on EN till I've safely migrated and gotten used to my new workflows.
Someone said earlier that EN broke his heart. It broke mine too. Sounds silly I know. I get that EN decisions aren't personal, but for me it is. I consider myself a low-maintenance user, the kind that leaves their subscriptions running once they've committed, who rarely bothers support staff for anything and would just quietly figure out problems, tolerate minor bugs and freezes, taking for granted that future updates would eventually fix things.
Until now. I signed up to the forum recently only after the v10 update seriously interrupted my workflow. I have to say... reading all these posts more eloquent than my own on here and on reddit expressing the frustration and disappointment I too am feeling was a source of comfort to me.
This has been an awfully unproductive week where I've barely made progress at work, because instead, I've been spending what little spare time I had on researching and testing alternatives. No, I haven't found anything better than EN legacy. For my needs, Legacy still works best compared to what's out there. But I'm stubborn this way. So I'm still leaving. Have found 3 apps with different strengths that can cover most of my needs with some adjustment.
The way I see it, I like my odds better elsewhere where my needs aren't relegated to the bottom 2%. Plus I'm a Mac desktop user who relies heavily on features unique to native Mac apps (like tabs!) that are either impossible to implement on Electron or unlikely to be implemented (or they would have said something by now to stem the exodus). No matter how they play their next chess move, for Mac users like myself, Legacy is as good as it'll ever get for us. But Legacy's not supported, we know as much.
So it's all quite clear that I'm in the losing camp either way in EN's Electron future, even if I could find it in myself to put aside my resentment and hang around for longer. Migration will only get harder as my database gets bigger. The sooner I get off, the sooner I get to return notetaking to what it should be – a productive activity that's second nature rather than the thorn in my flesh it currently is.
Coffee First Thing 47
Coffee First Thing
39 minutes ago, h3artbe_at said:
When Evernote didn't take into account with version 10 is that for many people, Evernote isn't a luxury. It's a necessity. We rely on Evernote.
Going from Evernote 6 to Evernote 10 is like your car suddenly having only two gears, no air conditioning, the radio doesn't work, and the windows are stuck in the closed position.
19 minutes ago, Coffee First Thing said:
First.....
Love your username. Always coffee first for sure.
Second.....
That is probably the best description I have read so far. I'm one of the ones that relies on it and have had to also run legacy. Which takes up more room when installed than just one instance of course. The sheer amount of points I have accumulated over the years allows me to take my time and try and be patient with the development of the new apps since it's not something I'm paying for at the moment due to those points I have redeemed. With that said, though I am an ECC I have no problem expressing how I feel about the new build. Some things are wonderful and some just suck. As a power user I have build muscle memory with the keyboard shortcuts that are no longer there in v10. Now, some are coming back, but I don't know when other than "they're coming".
I'm also an Aspie and have major OCD. I don't do change well at all. It may sound silly but the changes have been debilitating at times. I know it's not Evernote's job to take that into consideration, but I'll admit that I wish they had at least thought about how different groups would be effected. If they had, they could have done what almost every other app developer has done (at least the ones that I use) and introduced a new app (at least in the iOS store as I'm on Apple) and left the other one there and just stated that there would be no further updates. That's what Goodnotes, MoneyWiz, Banktivity, and more have done recently.
I still love the app even with its faults and I'm heavily invested, but I would be remiss if I didn't say that they dropped the ball on this one in regard to releasing it so early. It wasn't ready in my opinion.
I don't understand your point
Evernote provided the Legacy version and it's working well for me
I was a long time premium user and respect your knowledge and comments DtLow, but I have to ask why wouldn't Evernote move v10 to general beta, and let everyone know its not complete. That way the beta would have somewhat satisfied those waiting for the new version and those that were not so fussed could just keep using Evernote like normal.. ie. there would not be a legacy version until v10 was truly finished..
4 minutes ago, Manya70 said:
I have to ask why wouldn't Evernote move v10 to general beta, and let everyone know its not complete.
I'm not happy with Version 10 being a GA release
but quoting from the Evernote blog
If your workflow depends on these features, you can continue to use our legacy apps.
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12 minutes ago, Sayre Ambrosio said:
I can imagine how people feel when they use Evernote to keep track of their business. Although there is a Legacy version, this update can totally interrupt their work, and lack of communication lets people arouse their concern of when the Legacy will stop working if Evernote decides to break the link. A feeling of uncertainty.
When I saw the animation about the shiny new app made by Evernote, I wonder if they think it's an app indispensable in life, or just a "meaningful" Facebook.
At the first glance of the shiny app I like it, but random bugs these two months always keep waking me up. Stop saying Legacy because iOS does not have the Legacy one, and no official statements to reassure users how long they can use. Maybe it will be incompatible to the coming Big Sur. Who knows. Should the user avoid this by not upgrading MacOS?
Finally I want to conclude communication can solve everything.
1 hour ago, DTLow said:
I use Evernote Legacy, and I'm thankful for that. But Legacy's days are numbered. No updates, no fixes, no security bugs will be repaired.
7 minutes ago, Coffee First Thing said:
But Legacy's days are numbered.
You're right, someday we will be forced to switch
But that day is not today, not tomorrow, not this week, ....
When the time comes, I'm hoping Version 10 will be completed and suitable for general use
That will make it an easy switch
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My issue is different. My account was hacked over two months ago and accessed from Russia, N Korea, Venezuela, Vietnam amongst other countries and only two after two months that I was contacted by email by Evernote to ask if I really logged from Venzuela. When I logged in after a password reset, I was shocked that I was never alerted on over two months of unauthorized access. Evernote requires you pay to have two factor authentication or to see a list of devices that logged onto your account. I have a support ticket open and intend to close my account after I hear their explanation. It is a massive Infosec practice if you ask me to witness this in a company with 250 million active users.
4 hours ago, h3artbe_at said:
I completely share your feelings as well as your assessment. what a sad series of events...:-(. for reasons similar to yours and as you are a mac user, too, I have migrated over to Devonthink and must say am very happy with it with my specific use cases, in fact Devonthink is substantially more feature rich than EN as it turns out. the only limitations I found were 1) it only works in the apple ecosystem & 2) sharing notes / data is a lot more cumbersome than in evernote. if you are interested, I have summarized my transition experience over in their forums: https://discourse.devontechnologies.com/t/moving-from-evernote-to-devonthink-in-2020/59211
4 hours ago, DTLow said:
Point is V10 is a shell of V 6.25. That, the bugs, the slowness, and the general lack of communications does not bode well nor make comfortable some of us who rely on EN. Legacy available or not. V10 is useless to me without major feature add back. I'd as soon know and get on with it as opposed to dangle in the wind. It ain't that complicated. There's a vision or there isn't. 🤷♂
Perfectly put; I'm pretty much the same. I was a lurker on the forums until v10. I'm currently trying to trim the fat from my notebooks before I start the slow migration. But working across two note apps, each with their own way of working (and manually recreating internal links and OCR) is a massive, disruptive pain in the arse.
10.3, announced today, offers some hope, and a roadmap of sorts, but it's all about trust now. And I no longer trust Evernote. Too many ignored requests, ignored fixes and seemingly ignored beta feedback has done it for me. And yet I've not found an alternative that meets legacy (and no, I'm not going anywhere near Nimbus now).
9 hours ago, CalS said:
V10 is useless to me without major feature add back.
Same for me - At the top of my list is adding Applescript integration to the Mac app
There's also less critical features that I use (example Top List view)
I won't be switching to the Version 10 product until such work is completed
On 11/1/2020 at 9:33 PM, egypturnash said:
Just posting to say thanks for sharing your note because once again, I've reached my reactions limit for the day and couldn't 'like' your post.
I had a similar 'eye-roll' experience when testing various apps that mostly turned out to be also run on electron so I could relate. Each time I read 'electron garbage' it made me laugh. I will be keeping Notion has one of my solutions though. It can come in useful in some areas plus I went in knowing it won't be a full EN replacement.
( btw what's the point of this daily reactions limit? I happen to admin several active forums and I don't get it. The risk of someone spamming using reactions is so low. I'd like to be able to show appreciation for posts made by fellow members that have been helpful or acknowledge responses to my posts but can never get past a few reactions before I'm 'muted'. )
@Coffee First Thing: Agree with Sayre Ambrosio. Coming across these hilarious and fitting descriptions of EN v10 on this forum has become part of my regular therapy now. It makes all the effort and time I've been wasting trying to purge 9 years of EN out of my system somewhat more tolerable.
And HTML export, I guess ?
On 11/9/2020 at 8:11 AM, toao said:
Thanks for the tip. Have bookmarked the link and am gonna check it out. Devonthink and KeepIt are both options I've yet to test out, mainly because I also use Android. Esp. if I'd like the option of accessing Devonthink on the web, I'd have to cough up $500 (if I didn't remember wrongly). I'm sure you can imagine why I might have commitment phobia right now just after breaking off my decade-long affair with EN 😅 But yeah, I have not ruled out Devonthink as an option yet. It's still on the cards.
Update: I have ruled out Devonthink as an option too A member using Devonthink mentioned that there's no more tab functionality since they released the new version a year ago.
On 11/9/2020 at 9:52 AM, avevers said:
Yep, Nimbus came up early as an option (Nice looking UI, easy EN import, responsive support, tempting price), but I ruled that out pretty quickly after security concerns were brought up on reddit, plus it lost some of my notes and failed to warn me about it during import.
There isn't one perfect Legacy replacement for me either, and all this testing and transition is a major pain in my butt too, but this episode has also opened my eyes. Made me realise I want to get to a place where I won't be held hostage by another app again. So am planning to spread my notes between 2-3 specialised apps, getting used to introducing markdown to my workflow etc. It's all giving me one helluva headache at the moment, but I know it'll get better. Just the withdrawal period I gotta grind through.
Tentatively, I've settled on Notion for web clipping and as a general hub and starting point for my links and references. Minus points: it's yet another Electron app so it's sluggish + no local storage. So this is where Obsidian + Typora come in. Using Obsidian to build on my writing/research content. I might not even need Typora after Obsidian's WYSIWYG editor is released, but for now I'm loving that Typora allows me to open as many notes as possible in tabs just like EN Legacy. Both Notion and Obsidian still have room to mature and I'm actually looking forward to that.
6 minutes ago, h3artbe_at said:
Thanks for the tip. Have bookmarked the link and am gonna check it out. Devonthink and KeepIt are both options I've yet to test out, mainly because I also use Android. Esp. if I'd like the option of accessing Devonthink on the web, I'd have to cough up $500 (if I didn't remember wrongly). I'm sure you can imagine why I might have commitment phobia after beaking off my decade-long affair with EN right now But yeah, I have not ruled out Devonthink as an option yet. It's still on the cards.
Great comment. I feel the same - happy (and excited) for a product to mature (Notion, Obsidian), but I'm veering towards trying to embrace markdown and choosing a tool simply as a front-end manager for a (massive) set of markdown files. That way I'd feel less locked in; less of a hostage as you put so well. Notion still feels locked in, although I do use it. Obsidian is also on my radar.
Evernote got stale and ignored too many users too many times. Joplin, for all it's immature UI and rough edges, is exciting, growing and has a collaborative development community. Typora, from my first few sessions, is a joy to use. And I'm starting to enjoy the "restrictions" of markdown. Forces you to get on with writing and thinking less about the presentation. I like that, although sometimes I still want a splash of colour in my notes.
Anyway, none of this changes the fact that my migration, which I had never planned nor wanted to do, will need a lot of planning and methodical hacking to get to work. I doubt v10.9999, or whatever they come out with, will ever match 6.25.
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On 11/2/2020 at 4:31 PM, michaelsalk said:
Let me quote myself from another thread:
16 minutes ago, Barabasz said:
I have one serious problem with OneNote, unfortunately. The philosophy of the program. All those notebooks, tabs (sections), notes and notes inside notes (floating text-boxes) This information architecture doesn't convince me at all. OneNote is much more polished and powerful, no doubt about it (especially "inside" the single note). But all I want is to make very simple notes (usually plain text, headings, lists, images and attachments). And I need powerful (instant!) search engine. OneNote is a giant combine harvester. And I need a bicycle. So far Evernote was my bicycle, but now it is completely broken (I can't use Windows when Evernote is running, i can't use pencil 2 on my iPad, etc). Owners and developers don't give a *****. Sad but true.
I was never convinced by OneNote. To complicated interface, especially desktop one, and too complicated note (all those floating text-boxes and other widgets - I always keep thing simple, one under another). What I love about Evernote is that I can collapse sidebar, and see only snippets on the left, and the content of a selected note on the other side. I don't have time for placing notes in certain stacks, stacks in notebooks etc. I keep all my notes in one gigantic notebook and rely entirely on search (and tags) because I don't like wasting time organizing things. But that is my way of using. This kind of user experience is impossible in OneNote (in my opinion).
On the other side - I have an Office 365 subscription and I will have (I think it is the best office workspace and I am using OneDrive cloud as my primary storage). So OneNote is in a certain sense "for free".
But I'm still looking for something else... I was thinking about DEVONthink, but I work on Windows as well and they don't offer win app
7 hours ago, Barabasz said:
You're not alone. I found OneNote too complicated.
I see Evernote 10 is improving on a regular basis. I continue to have hope for Evernote. (Especially if they give us the ability to put shortcuts at the top.)
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Wholeheartedly agree. Tabs were an essential part of my workflow and very much missed.
Are you considering bringing them back?
I will go back to Legacy now.
Made the switch to Notion, exported my EN data, and switched back to EN Basic. Seems to be working great thus far.
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I've been a user of Evernote for nearly 8 years and been very happy but I am now considering moving away from it. Not only is the new version on iPad a really poor user experience, it now goes literally days without syncing across devices, and just lost a note. It was a very important note with a bunch of important actions I need to take from a big meeting. I didn't delete it, I clicked the green tick to ensure it was captured, and it's gone. That's just unforgivable. If I can't rely on it so that people can rely on me, then I can't use it.
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RK Čelik is a Bosnian rugby club based in Zenica. They are the most successful team in the country, having won all Bosnian cup and championship titles since Rugby Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina was formed in 1992, as well as the Rugby Championship of Yugoslavia 7 times, which made them second most successful club in the former country.

History
The club was founded on 5 March 1972 as RK Zenica before changing their name to RK Čelik in 1978.

External links
RK Čelik at blogspot

Bosnia and Herzegovina rugby union teams
Rugby clubs established in 1972
Sport in Zenica

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Calling functions such as navigate or popToTop on the navigation prop is not the only way to navigate around your app. As an alternative, you can dispatch navigation actions on your top-level navigator, provided you aren't passing your own navigation prop as you would with a redux integration. The presented approach is useful in situations when you want to trigger a navigation action from places where you do not have access to the navigation prop, or if you're looking for an alternative to using the navigation prop.
You can get access to a navigator through a ref and pass it to the NavigationService which we will later use to navigate. Use this only with the top-level (root) navigator of your app.
In the next step, we define NavigationService which is a simple module with functions that dispatch user-defined navigation actions.
In NavigationService, you can create your own navigation actions, or compose multiple navigation actions into one, and then easily reuse them throughout your application. When writing tests, you may mock the navigation functions, and make assertions on whether the correct functions are called, with the correct parameters.


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#include <google/protobuf/text_format.h>
#include <gtest/gtest.h>
#include "caffe2/core/net.h"
#include "caffe2/core/operator.h"
#include "caffe2/transforms/common_subexpression_elimination.h"

namespace caffe2 {

namespace {

using transform::Graph;

/**
 *            /--->(FC)-->(Relu)
 *  Before: (FC)-->(FC)-->(Relu)
 *            \--->(FC)-->(Relu)
 *
 *                    /-->(Relu)
 *  After : (FC)-->(FC)-->(Relu)
 *                    \-->(Relu)
 *
 */
TEST(CommonSubexpressionEliminationTest, TestSimple) {
  NetDef netdef;
  OperatorDef* op;

  // This operator simply reads input and outputs it.
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "FC", {"in", "w", "b"}, {"in1"});
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "FC", {"in1", "w", "b"}, {"mid1"});
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "FC", {"in1", "w", "b"}, {"mid2"});
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "FC", {"in1", "w", "b"}, {"mid3"});
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "Relu", {"mid1"}, {"out1"});
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "Relu", {"mid2"}, {"out2"});
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "Relu", {"mid3"}, {"out3"});

  auto t = TransformRegistry()->Create("CommonSubexpressionElimination");
  CHECK(t);
  NetDef transformed_netdef = t->ApplyTo(netdef);

  EXPECT_EQ(t->PatternMatch(Graph(netdef)).size(), 1); // one match
  EXPECT_EQ(t->PatternMatch(Graph(netdef)).at(0).size(), 3); // 3 ops matched
  EXPECT_EQ(transformed_netdef.op_size(), 5);
  EXPECT_EQ(transformed_netdef.op(1).output_size(), 1);
  EXPECT_EQ(transformed_netdef.op(2).input_size(), 1);
  EXPECT_EQ(transformed_netdef.op(3).input_size(), 1);
  EXPECT_EQ(transformed_netdef.op(4).input_size(), 1);

  // make sure op 1 writes to the blob read by 2, 3, and 4.
  EXPECT_EQ(
      transformed_netdef.op(1).output(0), transformed_netdef.op(2).input(0));
  EXPECT_EQ(
      transformed_netdef.op(1).output(0), transformed_netdef.op(3).input(0));
  EXPECT_EQ(
      transformed_netdef.op(1).output(0), transformed_netdef.op(4).input(0));
}

/**
 * Almost the same as the one above, but it has to be able to merge from
 * external input as well.
 *
 *            ->(FC)-->(Relu)
 *  Before:   ->(FC)-->(Relu)
 *            ->(FC)-->(Relu)
 *
 *                 /-->(Relu)
 *  After :   ->(FC)-->(Relu)
 *                 \-->(Relu)
 *
 */
TEST(CommonSubexpressionEliminationTest, TestFromExternal) {
  NetDef netdef;
  OperatorDef* op;

  // This operator simply reads input and outputs it.
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "FC", {"in", "w", "b"}, {"mid1"});
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "FC", {"in", "w", "b"}, {"mid2"});
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "FC", {"in", "w", "b"}, {"mid3"});
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "Relu", {"mid1"}, {"out1"});
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "Relu", {"mid2"}, {"out2"});
  op = AddOp(&netdef, "Relu", {"mid3"}, {"out3"});

  auto t = TransformRegistry()->Create("CommonSubexpressionElimination");
  CHECK(t);
  NetDef transformed_netdef = t->ApplyTo(netdef);

  EXPECT_EQ(t->PatternMatch(Graph(netdef)).size(), 1); // one match
  EXPECT_EQ(t->PatternMatch(Graph(netdef)).at(0).size(), 3); // 3 ops matched
  EXPECT_EQ(transformed_netdef.op_size(), 4);
  EXPECT_EQ(transformed_netdef.op(0).output_size(), 1);
  EXPECT_EQ(transformed_netdef.op(1).input_size(), 1);
  EXPECT_EQ(transformed_netdef.op(2).input_size(), 1);
  EXPECT_EQ(transformed_netdef.op(3).input_size(), 1);

  EXPECT_EQ(
      transformed_netdef.op(0).output(0), transformed_netdef.op(1).input(0));
  EXPECT_EQ(
      transformed_netdef.op(0).output(0), transformed_netdef.op(2).input(0));
  EXPECT_EQ(
      transformed_netdef.op(0).output(0), transformed_netdef.op(3).input(0));
}

} // namespace

} // namespace Caffe2


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Melissa Sargent has served as the 48th District Assembly Member for 7 years and is seeking election to the Senate. Sargent's priorities include building more affordable housing, raising the minimum wage, investing in infrastructure and public transit, and protecting natural resources. She is the author of universal background check legislation, minimum wage increase legislation, and more. Her opponent is Scott Barker, a Republican that opposes common sense gun reform laws. Sargent is the progressive choice in this race.
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Gary Hebl is running for a sixth term in the Assembly. The lawyer and small business owner has advocated for nonpartisan redistricting, Medicaid expansion, common-sense gun violence prevention laws, protecting the environment, and publicly financed elections. His opponent, Terry Lyon, is anti-choice, opposes welfare, and is against gun violence prevention laws. He also called upon the state legislature to overturn Governor Evers' mask mandate. Hebl is the more progressive choice in this race.
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Learning to work in-hand and lunge correctly without guidance is not as easy as buying a book or a DVD which is why our DVD comes with a very active Facebook Study Group in which we offer a 24-page manual, feedback, videos, articles and comments. Here are some sample questions from our group members who ride in over 30 disciplines around the world and include amateurs but also trainers, veterinarians, farriers, trimmers, bodyworkers and more.
ANSWER: Young ones starting out with in-hand work will often do this as they are unbalanced and find it easier to go on their dominant side. Until you get very comfortable with your handling of the lunge line and your bamboo or lunging whip and are able to predict when he is about to change direction, if he automatically changes direction of his own accord, stop and turn him back to the side you had him. Start again on the side he finds more challenging but give him more rests and walks.
Don't drill and insist. It will set him up to resist and it will/ can create a problem for future in-hand work as he may learn to get away from you or resent the work. Another way Manolo addresses this stage of the horse's development is by lunging him/her in the corner so the horse has the support of two walls to guide him instead of "free floating" in the middle of the arena.
Try not to have the lunge line too tight or too slack. This is like having too much contact on the reins or too little. If the horse becomes hard against your hand give a slight tug towards you as if to bring him in on a closer circle and when you feel him soften, very quickly release your tug. Give, take, give take – BUT do not pull hard and release hard because then you will throw the horse off balance.
If you keep the horse on a 'short/tight' contact with the lunge line all the time – he will get very heavy in the hand, just like a bitted and bridled horse becomes when the rider's hands are not soft and giving. Learning the finer nuances of in-hand is an art form and having the right amount of contact is an expression of this artistry.
Developing your feel for the right contact in-hand will teach you much about contact when you are riding, for what you get on the lunge line is what you will get under saddle.
Remember that it takes months to develop balance, to develop straightness so when your horse is falling in or out it is not because "it likes to" or "wants to" but because its body symmetry at this moment in time leads to that un-balance and crookedness. So what can you do?
If there is an issue at the gate and the horse wants to get out the horse is telling you it does not want to be in the arena with you, working. It is your job to make the arena a desirable place and work something the horse wants to do.
So what can you do? You can modulate the situation to fit your training without purposefully looking for conflict and anticipate and drive a little more before you know he will stop – and then work somewhere else so the temptation is not there to get out.
– What is his right rhythm, when he is breathing well?
ANSWER: That is really a very individual thing, because physical as well as mental fitness come into play.
Ten minutes is for a fit horse and it does not mean you should keep the horse in either trot or canter or walk non stop for 10 minutes, it means you can do work in different gaits, give a little walk break or a break but avoid changing direction during that time so the body can properly warm up.
When we say do not give too many breaks, it is because we have had students who are giving the horse halt breaks almost every circle which is excessive.
You have to become an expert on who your horse is because no one is every going to know this horse better then you since you spend your time with him and can observe him in every aspects of his life.
So you know if your horse is bold or timid, if he works out of nervous energy, if he is naturally low energy or is a horse that finds working easy and you can compose with this.
You can tell if your horse had a good night or not by looking at his paddock or stall and his expression. Does he look bright eyed and cheery or dull and a bit lethargic.
– Some days you just walk around, give a pat and are done.
– when your horse cannot do something, you do not assume it is because it is being purposefully disobedient and think about how to introduce the work differently or shelve it until next time when the horse is maybe stronger and more balanced.
Those are all good questions because they go to the root of what it is a trainer needs to know in order to work well with a variety of horses.
We are encouraged to treat all horses the same, but in fact we do much better with them when we recognize that just like dogs and people, each horse is an individual and when we figure out who they are, teaching them becomes much easier.
ANSWER: This is a great question and goes to who your horse is, how much training he has had and how fit, supple, even and balanced he is.
If your horse is working for you in one direction for a while and then starts to tell you he wants to stop or change direction he is essentially telling you that he is no longer comfortable so what you want to do ideally is to anticipate when you horse is likely to need a change of direction or more importantly a change of LINE.
If your horse is telling you no more circle, then go on a straight line or an oval or make the circle much larger but change the horse's alignment and the demands on its body.
If your horse is constantly trying to stop and change directions and you know because your vet has seen him that he has no physical issues, you may be dealing with a horse that needs to learn how to work.
Just like a child going into kindergarden, does not know how to stay sitting for long periods or how to write and read, the young horse does not know what his job is and so you have to teach him in a way that does not turn him off the work.
There is a big difference between a horse that is testing a handler and a horse that is testing the situation in order to understand what it is supposed to do.
Manolo works horses quite energetically and he is firm but he is also very very patient and he always gives the horse the benefit of the doubt so that a horse would have to demonstrate bad faith clearly after Manolo offers solutions for him to say 'ok mister, you are going to give me one more circle" the minute the horse softens and gives, Manolo praises, gets a few more good steps and then gives a break.
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What are two factors that can affect the clarity of an echo?
Hmmm, I would have to say the density, shape, and orientation of the surface on which the sound bounces before coming back to you.
You can also look at it from the source. Whether the original sound is clear or not.
Isn't this the same person that asked homework questions yesterday?
Only joined Fluther yesterday night lol! Couldn't tell you.
Are HW questions forbidden here?
But how do yo really know for sure? I mean, some people can have a genuine interest in the factors that influence echo clarity. I am sure some people study for years and years to find out these things.
I guess what I don't understand is why we should care about questions being HW questions to begin with? I know part of Fluther is answering questions,another is asking the questions, but also part of the experience I think, is learning from the answers to questions others have asked. See what I mean?
A singular "echo" is a pretty rare occurrence, although could happen.
When you're talking about a reflective (rather than absorptive) surface, the density of the material (a piece of paper can reflect high frequency sounds, but it takes something like lead to reflect low frequency noises) , the size and pattern of the variations on the surface (if you have something like a grille, it can create weird harmonics as the reflection interferes with itself). The shape of the surface can affect the echo—if it's concave it'll tend to focus the echo into a single point (like a whisper chamber), if it's convex it'll disperse the echo. A flat surface will tend to "slap" the echo back.
Any room that has parallel flat walls at head height can give you a "slap back" or flutter echo where the echo bounces off both walls and comes back to you, then echoes again.
In terms of clarity of reflections, "early reflections" are key to intelligibility—echoes received within the first millisecond or so increase clarity of speech, while "late reflections" (generally off high ceilings or back walls) reduce the clarity, but increase the interactions—it's what makes a great concert hall rather than a good concert hall.
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"Cerf Vase" by Marc Lalique
Default Title - £350 GBP
Impressive clear and frosted glass flower vase by Marc Lalique, the body rectangular cut with four tapering sides that pull in to a rounded base above a pair of reclining deer modelled as the stem and raised on a spreading circular foot. Signed under the base Lalique France.
Condition: Excellent Condition
Materials: Clear and Frosted Glass
René Lalique (1860-1945) began his career as a jewellery apprentice at the age of 16, and by 1881 he was a freelance designer for many of the best-known Parisian jewellers. In 1885, he opened his own workshop on Place Gaillon in Paris, the former workshop of Jules Destape. In 1887, Lalique opened a business on Rue du Quatre-Septembre, and registered the "RL" mark the following year. In 1890, he opened a shop in the Opera District of Paris. Within a decade, Lalique was amongst the best-known Parisian jewellers.
Oiseau de Feu (Firebird), 1922
In 1905, Lalique opened a new shop at Place Vendôme which exhibited not only jewellery, but glass works as well. It was close to the shop of renowned perfumer François Coty; in 1907, Lalique began producing ornate perfume bottles for Coty. The production of glass objects began at his country villa in 1902, and continued there until at least 1912. The first Lalique glassworks opened in 1909 in a rented facility in Combs-la-Ville, which Lalique later purchased in 1913. In December 1912, Lalique hosted an exhibition of Lalique Glass—as his glass would come to be known—at the Place Vendôme shop. During the First World War, the glassworks produced mundane items in support of the war effort. In 1919, work began on a new production facility in Wingen-sur-Moder, which opened in 1921. From 1925-1931, Lalique produced 29 models of hood ornaments; a mermaid statuette first produced in 1920 was also later sold as a hood ornament. During the 1920s and 1930s, Lalique was amongst the world's most renowned glassmakers.
René Lalique died in 1945. His son Marc Lalique took over the business, operating initially as "M.Lalique" and later as "Cristal Lalique". Under Marc's leadership, the company transitioned from producing its famous Lalique Glass to producing lead glass, commonly known as crystal. Marie-Claude Lalique took control of the company following Marc's death in 1977. It was sold to Pochet in 1994 and to a partnership of Art & Fragrance and the holding company Financière Saint-Germain in 2008. Since 2010, Cristal Lalique has been wholly owned by Art & Fragrance.
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