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Parenting is all about juggling many things at once. Like most juggling acts, they get better with time.
People always ask how do I manage to find the time to do things, and my response is usually, "I find the time." I often have to write things down, keep an on-going spreadsheet and notepad with everything for the day or week, and if I'm trying to get a head start on things, month.
Lately, there's been one thing I've been neglecting. No matter how many times I juggle I seem to leave out the most important piece of this puzzle: me.
Keeping sane in a household of men is important for me, so there are times I have to wake up before sunrise and sleep after 11pm. It's funny because I've always told myself, if it's after 11pm and I haven't finished, tomorrow is a new day. Well, sometimes a deadline can't wait. More so when you're with your kids all day.
The demands of everyday life can get overwhelming. I've discussed it in my recent post on how I've been dealing with mom guilt.
To help cool off some steam, I've gone back to working out. I know I mentioned all the different at-home workouts moms do on a daily basis, but it won't target my "problem areas" as well as sit ups can.
I'm slowly getting back into my morning walk routine. Walking in the morning helps me prepare for my day and gives me some time to myself before everyone gets out of bed.
I read a post once on why moms are always so tired, and I always think back to it. Aside from the lack of sleep, there's also the different things that fall on her shoulders. Every birthday party needs planning, every birthday present needs to be thought through. Oh, and to celebrate the holidays you need to plan ahead.
So, yes, I'm the mom who if she doesn't need to do something, she doesn't. I won't send Holiday cards to family and friends or send anyone Thank-You notes for attending a celebration because it's really not necessary. I may send you a text or even call attendees that same night or next day, but that's it.
1. Tackle the most difficult/important task on your list first thing in the morning.
There are times I want to put off something for the last minute but I remind myself that regardless, it will need to get done.
2. Give yourself credit for what you've accomplished, no matter how small.
Sometimes we beat ourselves up for not reaching a certain goal and forget how hard we've worked to get where we are today.
I've created a number of schedules to help keep myself organized throughout the week, but nothing beats a little reminder on your phone. Some people recommend creating timers for each task, I have yet to try this, so feel free to share your experience if you've done so.
5. Make your family a priority.
No matter what I'm doing, where I need to be or how exhausted I am, I remind myself about the importance of spending time with those I love.
Here's a bonus tip: Setting alarms and having a schedule means nothing if the most important task is spending time with your family. That doesn't need to be timed in. It should come naturally.


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Discussion in 'Poultry' started by ranger72, Jul 21, 2005.
At times we often have leftover Smoked Turkey or Chicken and I always loved it the best right out of the smoker [after proper resting] with a little dipping sauce.
Dice up some of that Hickory smoked bird and add to it some chopped celery and onion and then mix in just the right amount of Miracle Whip Salad Dressing to suit your taste.
Chill it real good and apply it to your favorite bread along with some of your favorite Dill Pickles and I think you will find that the smoke turns ordinary chicken or turkey salad into something very special.
My wife makes a great chiken salad, any way, but about 3 weeks ago, I threw in an extra bird for that very reason. The only problem we had this time was that prior to smoking I did what I always do...I brined the bird for several hours as I had been taught. No problem, Right? Well, my wife was not aware that I always do this, and so, as is her habit, she seasond the mixture with plenty of salt & pepper. The resulting flavor was a bit to intense for my taste, but the smokiness of the bird was definitely present. We will be trying this again, but with better communication.
After brining I can see where you probably would not need to add salt to the chicken salad.
As I mentioned my wife made the chicken salad out of one of the first birds I ever smoked and I hadn't learned/didn't know about brining at that point so too much salt was not an issue at the time.
But you raise a very good point and when others read this thread that may not have tried the chicken or turkey salad perhaps this will help them to not make the same error.
Dang it all, guys!! I just ate lunch and now I'm hungry all over again. I'll never lose any weight at this rate!!!
Ain't no other way to have a chicken or turkey salad sandwich!
But have you guys tried smoked chicken or turkey CLUB sandwiches with bacon and tomato???
Oh yes, my friend! There ain't no better way to enjoy that sandwich, especially if you have a couple Better Boy and Early Girl tomato plants just coming into season in the back yard! Don't forget the fresh buttercrunch or bib lettuce for added cool crispy crunch!
Well, I am almost on my way home to fire up the smoker - gonna do 3 racks of ribs and a London Broil. Have a great weekend!
That's alright, I can always start over tomorrow!
Great idea on the turkey/chicken club sondwheeeech..never thought of that!
I tried this the day after Thanksgiving with left over smoked turkey. You are right on, once you have had it smoked you never go back!
It doesn't seem to be a popular wood for smoking chicking but I love Mesquite Smoked Chicken in my chicken salad. I got hooked on it while I was living down in College Station TX going to school (yeh that's right I'm an Aggie, WHOOP!) The local H.E.B. sold it out of their deli case and I just couldn't get enough of it. Maybe it's a TX thing seeing as they grow so much mesquite down that way.
Okay, I see that it has been awhile since the last reply to this thread - just had some smoked chicken salad on Keebler Club crackers - oh baby! One of my co-workers sitting next to me in the breakroom looks at the bowl i had the sald in and goes. "do I smell smoke flavor in that?" A huge grin creeped up on my face as I replied "yes". I handed a cracker with some on it to him and the expression on his face was all I needed to reaffirm that this stuff is gooood! Then i told him about smoked chicken/turkey club sandwiches and he about flipped. He says he will attempt this at home this weekend. I felt good after that little encounter - I think I got someone hooked on smoking meat. If he purchases a smoker, I'll turn him on to this forum.
Hello ranger72! Thanks for the idea about the smoked turkey salad :) . I pulled some out of the freezer to thaw once I saw this thread -couldnt stop salavating;) . I am changing it in that I'm using Dukes mayo ( for the hubby ), sweet pickle relish, adding a boiled egg, and toasted pecans. Plan on having this for lunch tomorrow once the flavors have had a chance to meld. Yummmmm, Yummmmmm!


What can a coach/mentor do for you? Finding your feet in a new job and a new company can take as long as six months, which is an expensive process for your employer. A coach or mentor can ease the way, helping you to integrate quickly and become part of the team. Danielle Grant of LeaderShape talks about the importance of a coach or mentor when you're new to the job.
According to Human Resources Magazine, the coaching and mentoring industry is growing rapidly and it's becoming more focused on achieving particular outcomes. Coaching is seen as proactive, rather than as some kind of remedial action and whilst one of its main benefits is staff retention, it can deliver other tangible results, particularly for new employees.
Bringing in people at a senior level is really quite a risky business and as one HR Director stated: "The more senior you are, the harder it is to integrate. There's pressure to be successful – some of which people place on themselves – and they feel they have to perform from day one." So how do you help a new member of staff to hit the ground running?
A coach or mentoring programme for an initial period of, say, three months, allows any new employee the opportunity to learn about the business and warm to its visions, values and the rest of the management team. Working with a mentor or coach enables you to explore new plans, ideas or a solution to an ongoing problem, and gauge the general reaction that it might provoke within the business. You can ask day-to-day questions, define your strengths and weaknesses within your new role and amongst others, resolve personality conflicts, you can also monitor initial feedback on your appointment. The coach can provide the new recruit with a robust sounding board, helping them to think through issues and consequences, even shadowing them in situations that they are finding difficult.
Whether you use internal or external coaches and mentors, or a mixture of both, the aim really is to maximise on the potential of any new member of your team in the quickest way possible. You could be rewarded with an excellent salary, but if you are left to flounder for the first six months, the company will see a very slow return on their investment. The risk of organisational rejection also runs high, which is of no benefit to either party. To hit the ground running, in the shortest possible time, make the most of a coaching or mentoring programme – it will fast track your way into your new role.


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La línea 102-106 es una línea de transporte nocturna de Montevideo, la cual parte desde Aduana con destino al Hipódromo mediante circuito. Es posible que en los horarios oficiales de la Intendencia de Montevideo aún figure cómo línea 106 nocturno, pero la denominación oficial no es la misma, por lo cual el circuito inicia con sus unidades indicando en el cartel los números 102-106. Hasta la Av Pedro de Mendoza y Teniente Rinaldi este ramal es idéntico al de la línea 102 luego dobla hacia el lado opuesto y en la Av José Belloni, inicia con el ramal de la línea 106 nuevamente hasta la Aduana.

Recorrido habitual

Ida
 Aduana
 Juan Lindolfo Cuestas
 Buenos Aires
 Plaza Independencia
 Avenida 18 de Julio
 Avenida 8 de Octubre
 Gerónimo Piccioli
 Juan Belinzón
 Besares
 Mariano Estapé
 José María Guerra
 Hipódromo
Continúa sin espera...

Regreso
 ....Hipódromo
 Avenida Mendoza
 Camino Teniente Rinaldi
 Avenida José Belloni
 Avenida 8 de Octubre
 Avenida 18 de Julio
 Plaza Independencia
 Ciudadela
 25 de Mayo
 Juncal
 Cerrito
 Colón
 25 de Mayo
 Aduana

Barrios servidos
El 102-106 sirve a barrios montevideanos como: Piedras Blancas, Hipódromo, Ituzaingó, Maroñas, Unión, La Blanqueada, Tres Cruces, Cordón y Centro. Entra a la Ciudad Vieja y termina en la Aduana en su ruta extendida.

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6 Investigates: Local Citgo executive remains jailed in cramped Venezuelan basement
By: rspruill
Cramped, unsanitary conditions are now the norm for the 6 Citgo executives in their 19th month of captivity at the hands of Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro.
Maduro claims the men stole from Citgo, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company. He had them arrested during what the men believed was a routine trip to the capital city of Caracas, around Thanksgiving 2017. That KRIS 6 News exclusive is available, here.
And yet, the government has not yet presented its case, as 15 preliminary hearings have been canceled and the men remain cut off from their families.
One of the men, Alirio Zambrano, is a Citgo-Corpus Christi employee. His daughter, Alexandra Forseth, tells KRIS-6 News that her father and the other men now share overcrowded spaces with political protesters, themselves jailed amid rising political unrest.
"In a place where there might be enough room for about 20 or 30 people, there is like, 70 or 80," she says. "So there are people sleeping in the hallway in the basement, a lot of the people in there right now, are folks associated with some of the protests in the past couple of weeks."
And as tensions grow, fears for the men's safety do too. The men's weekly phone calls home have been suspended since February, leaving family members to depend on Venezuelan attorneys for updates from inside the jail.
Forseth says Citgo has remained silent on the issue, but, the State Department continues working to effect the men's release.
"Things have kinda shifted in Venezuela as far as other international players are getting involved to bring peace, there, so we don't know any details but I know they're still working hard on that," she said.
Forseth says the men are able to receive small packages of food, but, only through a complex network of couriers. Travel is also restricted from the U.S. into the country, making communication even more difficult.
"At this point, it's really hard for anyone to go to Venezuela and see them because all the flights from the U.S. have gotten canceled."
Forseth says a particularly bittersweet moment comes Friday, when the youngest of Zambrano's three daughters graduates from Ray High School. She'll attend Rice University this fall.
"Our dad had this dream of seeing us all go to (university.) So him not being there tomorrow to see (my sister) graduate and go on to college…it's really tough," Forseth said.

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Hvor kragerne vender er en dansk film fra 2020, som er instrueret af Lisa Jespersen.

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 Bodil Jørgensen som Jane
 Jens Jørn Spottag som Iver
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 Adam Ild Rohweder som Jannik
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In Getting Derailed Communication Back On Track, part I we introduced two different areas where our perspectives split off in different directions. First there are the Translational differences, which are described by our "flat" model of people sitting in a circle. We're each seeing a different view based on where we're sitting, which is a metaphor or model of our individual processing centers or lenses.
Remember, these processing centers - how we take in and organize information - shape our translation of the world around us. Do I translate something as it affects who I am in the world? Do I see it as affecting safety? Do I translate it through how I think things should be? Those perspectives are part of a "flat" model, because everyone is at the same general level of consciousness development.
Also mentioned in part I, we find that while sitting in that circle facing each other, it would seem silly to assert one perspective as being "right," making others be "wrong." This realization is the first step to a higher stage of consciousness. Now we can see that we may not have the "whole truth" individually, but that we have a more accurate perspective and a more complete picture together. This higher level of consciousness is a Transformational perspective, rather than a Translational one. All the different lenses translate differently once again from this new level or altitude. Just what we needed: more complexity, right?
To make this model more immediately useful, we can simplify this three-dimensional part a bit. If we look at even two major levels of altitude, you'll get a clear picture of how Transformational perspectives affect how we understand the world around us, including each other. As our consciousness evolves or develops, it steps beyond the basics of survival and self-preservation. Survival in its most basic form is a "you or me" proposition. We'll call this level Tier I Consciousness, which is a somewhat primitive and limited approach. The assumption is one of scarcity (not enough for both of us) and black-and-white thinking (no room for nuance). It's a normal stage of development in children, often called the "I, me, mine" way of seeing things, and hopefully we grow beyond it as adults.
As we develop, our consciousness can understand that "we and us" is a superior approach to survival, as having each others' backs is even safer than being alone. This is called Tier II Consciousness, and it's what prompts us to form our communities, our tribes, and our societies. If we all developed in the same way, we'd start out having everyone orbiting around us (us being children with needs) and then when we turn thirteen or fourteen years old, we'd automatically step from the center of our universe to become a contributing member of our tribe. Unfortunately, stress and unconscious reactive living push our consciousness down into the "I, me, mine" level. We may regress and come from that perspective as adults.
This altitude difference is a huge area of potential communication breakdown and conflict, so understanding it (thus not being pushed around by it) puts a lot of power back in your hands. Let's look at this Transformational perspective shift in a way that will improve interactions and communication.
Moving beyond the mere Translational perspective, we understand that we don't have the one True perspective, and the other person isn't necessarily wrong. We want to learn where the other person is coming from, and understand the issue from their Translation. However, when the motivation of a person at one altitude meets the motivation of a person at a different altitude, the breakdown can be more confusing than Translation, because we can use the same language with completely different intentions. Even the expression "having each others' backs" has a different meaning at each level. In Tier I, it is about what you do for me, or I do for you. In Tier II, it's about what we do for us.
A great example of these different altitudes showing up in language use would be two different approaches to facing a challenge. In Tier I, the language might be, "I will fight for you" (or even with you). We're separated: I'm here and you're there. Furthermore, fighting is seen as how to meet a challenge. This is that black-or-white, simplistic and scarcity-centered approach. In Tier II, the language might be, "together we can build something." There's an underlying assumption of "Us together" having a better chance of facing a challenge than either one of us alone. Furthermore, building is usually a sign of a higher level of consciousness than fighting.
Being able to recognize when someone is coming from Tier I or Tier II is incredibly helpful when getting communication back on track. If you can see how sitting around that circle by the beach describing our perspectives becomes a whole other proposition when some of us are on the beach and some of us are at 15,000 feet, you're on the right track. This is not about being judgmental or superior, but understanding that since it's about development, it's a one-way street. When you're at Tier II consciousness, you can understand Tier I, because you've been there. It will be very different for someone at Tier I consciousness to make any sense out of Tier II. It's just "crazy" to them because it's so far outside of their reality. It's a similar phenomenon to the story of Native Americans not seeing the European ships on the horizon. When something is far outside of our reality, we can't see it.
When you recognize someone's perspective being not only from a different angle of the circle, but at a different altitude as well, you can make the necessary adjustments to your own communication. You can meet them on their level, as well as from their processing center. It can be very painful or frustrating reaching up or down levels of consciousness, and this in itself is common enough to have been explored by everyone from Star Trek's Gene Roddenberry (Errand of Mercy) to Ken Wilber calling the conflict "rug burns" (On Fixing Others Video).
It is our task to meet each other where we can, rather than railing against people being where they are. Using Conscious Communication in this way, we can reduce the conflict, and increase understanding.
A very simple, yet powerful approach to better interaction with everyone (including ourselves) is what I call the "Law of Allowance." All it says is: Allow whoever to be who they are. Just allow it. Everything else will flow differently from that point. When we stop trying to make people be different, they stop defending and resisting. When they stop defending and resisting we can have open dialogues. When we have open dialogues, we can address the behaviors or issues that we wanted to be different in the first place.
Most people skip a step, and assume that the only way to get someone to stop or start doing something differently is to change them. This is an enormous assumption, and almost always wrong. When what we really want to change is a behavior or issue, we must address that directly. Stepping away from judgment, ego, and everything irrelevant to the issue at hand is incredibly freeing, and gives us the space to talk about the thing bothering us, rather than sticking the other person with it as a part of their being. This one shift in our communication can change every relationship we have.


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Prymula: "We Will Announce Stricter Anti-Covid Measures on Friday"
byVeronika B.
According to the Minister of Health Roman Prymula (ANO), stricter measures against COVID-19 will be announced on Friday.
On Monday, the government will also discuss the possibility of calling medics to help hospitals.
The Czech Republic reported 4,457 new coronavirus cases on Tuesday, its highest one-day tally since the pandemic started, Health Ministry data showed on Wednesday.
Read: Czech Republic Reports Record Daily Rise of 4,457 Cases
"We are in a situation of relatively strong growth. That is why we need tighter measures against the virus. They should flatten the curve because, with such daily increases, we would jeopardize the capacity of the health system within three weeks," he said.
There are growing concerns about how prepared the healthcare system is as the number of new COVID-19 cases rose by 50% in September, Europe's second-largest spike in cases.
The government wants to avoid putting too much strain on its hospitals and has said enough beds are still available but further increases in infections could require the reorganization of care and the postponing of non-urgent procedures.
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Milan Kubek, president of the Czech Medical Chamber, said that as of October 5 around 1,200 patients are hospitalized with COVID-19 and 280 of them are in a serious condition, which is now putting pressure on hospitals to reallocate already-sparse intensive care beds for coronavirus patients.
The number of people hospitalised with COVID-19 has climbed to 1,387, of which 326 are in intensive care – more than three times the peak seen when the outbreak first hit.
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Ken Starr on the Sondland testimony: 'It's over'
Tulsi Gabbard is suing Hillary Clinton
More American women than men think a woman can't win the presidency
New CNN poll suggests a Bernie-Biden race for the Democratic nomination
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Ken Starr, the former solicitor general who headed the investigation that led to the impeachment of former President Bill Clinton, called Wednesday's testimony by U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland "obviously ... one of those bombshell days."
Speaking on Fox News, Starr agreed with the hosts that things now do not "look good for the president substantively." Sondland's testimony, Starr said, confirmed that there was a quid pro quo between Trump's administration and the Ukrainian government — which would be "bribery," in the jargon of impeachment. Sondland also said that the orders to push Kyiv to open an investigation into Trump's political rivals had come directly from the Oval Office.
Starr focused specifically on the question of Trump's alleged contempt, noting that Sondland had spoken "vehemently and bitterly about his lack of access to records to help him." Additionally, the Democrats' line of questioning made clear that Sondland's attempts to refresh his memory for the testimony had been denied by the administration, which could build the Democrats' case for obstruction.
"There will be articles of impeachment," Starr said. "I think we've known that, it was just confirmed today. Substantively, what we heard from the chairman just now is: It's over. We now know — this is his position — we now know that the president in fact committed the crime of bribery." Watch below. Jeva Lange
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One of the candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination this year is now suing the last one.
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) has filed a defamation lawsuit against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for suggesting in an interview last year that she's a "Russian asset."
Clinton during a podcast appearance in October said that an unnamed Democratic candidate for president is "the favorite of the Russians." She then said that Jill Stein is "also a Russian asset," seeming to suggest the unnamed Democrat is one as well. While Clinton didn't mention the candidate she was referring to, when later asked if she was talking about Gabbard, her spokesperson told CNN, "If the nesting doll fits."
Gabbard at the time tore into Clinton as the "queen of warmongers" in response to her comments, and she demanded in November that Clinton "immediately hold a press conference to verbally retract — in full — your comments," as well as release a statement saying she made a "grave mistake" and that "I support and admire" Gabbard's work. Clinton did not do so.
The lawsuit filed against Clinton contends that her comments caused Gabbard "to lose potential donors and potential voters" and that she "has suffered significant actual damages, personally and professionally, that are estimated to exceed $50 million — and continue to this day." The campaign is seeking "compensatory damages and an injunction prohibiting the further publication of Clinton's defamatory statements." Clinton hasn't commented on the lawsuit. Brendan Morrow
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It turns out women have less faith in their political power than men do.
In the wake of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) allegedly telling Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) he didn't think a woman could beat President Trump, CNN posed the same question to American voters in its poll with SRSS released Wednesday. When asked "Generally speaking, do you think a woman can win the presidency of the United States, or not?," nine percent of men responded with "no." But in a twist, women gave an even direr prognosis, with a full 20 percent saying the same.
It may seem shocking that American women have less confidence in themselves than men. Then again, women also have a more personal grasp on the sexist reality ruling politics and everyday life.
SSRS conducted the poll Jan. 16-19 among 1,156 adults, and the full sample has a margin of sampling error of ±3.4 percentage points. For the sample of 500 Democrats, the margin of error was ±5.3 percentage points. Kathryn Krawczyk
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Monty Python co-founder Terry Jones has died at 77, his family confirmed Wednesday.
Jones, the writer, comedian, and founding member of the legendary British comedy troupe Monty Python, died Tuesday after a years-long battle with dementia, according to The Hollywood Reporter.
"Over the past few days his wife, children, extended family and many close friends have been constantly with Terry as he gently slipped away at his home in North London," his family said in a statement. "We have all lost a kind, funny, warm, creative and truly loving man whose uncompromising individuality, relentless intellect and extraordinary humor has given pleasure to countless millions across six decades."
The Reporter writes that Jones was considered to be Monty Python's "underrated but passionate heart," and he was responsible for much of the "early innovation" of the group's TV series Monty Python's Flying Circus. He worked as director or co-director of the films Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Monty Python's Life of Brian, and Monty Python's The Meaning of Life, starring in the films as well. Outside of his work with Monty Python, Jones also authored books like Fairy Tales, a collection of children's stories, as well as the screenplay for Jim Henson's film Labyrinth.
Tributes poured in for Jones on Wednesday, with Stephen Fry remembering his "wonderful talent, heart and mind" and Black Mirror creator Charlie Brooker praising him as an "actual genius." Monty Python's Michael Palin remembered Jones as "one of the funniest writer-performers of his generation," per BBC News. On Twitter, Monty Python's John Cleese also paid tribute, writing, "It feels strange that a man of so many talents and such endless enthusiasm, should have faded so gently away." Brendan Morrow
'wouldn't that be beautiful?'
President Trump is already fantasizing about abruptly showing up at his Senate impeachment trial, warning a reporter that she might just convince him it's a great idea.
Trump spoke in a news conference Wednesday after the impeachment trial against him began in the Senate, and he was asked whether he might appear during it. That idea, specifically the concept of showing up and intensely staring at Democrats, instantly seemed quite appealing to Trump.
"I'd love to go," Trump said. "Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't that be beautiful? ... Sit right in the front row and stare in their corrupt faces. I'd love to do it."
Asked why he doesn't do so if he'd love to so much, Trump told the reporter, "Don't keep talking, because you may convince me to do it," although he added that his lawyers "might have a problem" with the prospect.
Trump during this press conference touched on a variety of impeachment related issues including the possibility of former National Security Adviser John Bolton testifying, which Trump said he'd like to see happen except that "it's a national security problem." Besides, Trump said, "You don't like people testifying when they didn't leave on good terms." Brendan Morrow
"I'd love to go… and stare in their corrupt faces"
President Trump calls US Democrats "major sleazebags" after saying he "would love to go" along to his impeachment trial and "sit in the front row" at the World Economic Forum in Davoshttps://t.co/BJeQHUro8b pic.twitter.com/TVnn7hvEsm
— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) January 22, 2020
Poll Watch
A CNN-SSRS poll released Wednesday morning found a new national frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), though his lead over former Vice President Joe Biden is within the poll's margin of error, "meaning there is no clear leader in this poll," CNN says. Sanders, with 27 percent support among registered voters who are Democrats or Democratic-leaning, and Biden, polling at 24 percent, are now in a category of their own, though, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has fallen to a distant third at 14 percent.
"For the first time in the entirety of this campaign, in CNN's national polling, Joe Biden doesn't have the lead position all to himself," CNN political director David Chalian said on Wednesday's New Day. Sanders jumped 7 percentage points since December by eating into Biden's support among nonwhite voters and Warren's support among liberal Democrats.
The most important quality Democratic voters said they valued was electability, and Biden still held a commanding lead among candidates seen as the most likely to defeat President Trump, but Sanders leads in voter enthusiasm, CNN reports. Nine percent of men and 20 percent of women said they didn't think a woman can win the presidency.
In head-to-head polling against Trump, all six leading Democrats beat Trump nationally, with only Sen. Amy Klobuchar's (D-Minn.) lead falling within the margin of error, but the candidates were all essentially tied with Trump in the 15 battleground states CNN identified. Trump's approval rating in the poll was 43 percent.
Sen. Bernie Sanders joins Joe Biden to lead the Democratic presidential pack. It's the first time Biden hasn't held a solo lead in a CNN poll.https://t.co/zlrdHNT516 pic.twitter.com/aeCXTB0p5x
— New Day (@NewDay) January 22, 2020
SSRS conducted the poll Jan. 16-19 among 1,156 adults, and the full sample has a margin of sampling error of ±3.4 percentage points. For the sample of 500 Democrats, the margin of error was ±5.3 percentage points. Peter Weber
The Seattle area is jumping in where few municipalities have dared to tread, allowing all 1.2 million voters in King County to vote by smartphone in a Feb. 11 election, NPR reports. Cybersecurity experts are squeamish about online mobile voting, but King County has decided to wager that election security risks are worth the potential payoff of people actually voting in a local election. The stakes are relatively low in this case: Voters are choosing a new board of supervisors for the King Conservation District, a Washington state environmental agency many people in Seattle and the surrounding area have never heard of. Voting starts Wednesday.
The pilot project, to be announced in Seattle on Wednesday, is still making waves as the first U.S. general election conducted via mobile voting. Voters who chose to try out the new system will use a web portal to log in with their full name and birth date, and they will sign their ballot using their touchscreen. The ballots will be printed. Washington is good at verifying voter signatures because the state votes entirely by mail, says Bryan Finney of Democracy Live, the company providing the technology.
Tusk Philanthropies is funding the experiment, as it has smaller mobile voting projects. "This is the most fundamentally transformative reform you can do in democracy," founder Bradley Tusk tells NPR. "If you can use technology to exponentially increase turnout, then that will ultimately dictate how politicians behave on every issue."
"There is a firm consensus in the cybersecurity community that mobile voting on a smartphone is a really stupid idea," counters Duncan Buell, a computer science professor at the University of South Carolina. Still, he conceded, "until we have a total collapse of some election, I think this sort of thing is going to continue" because "people want to believe that, you know, they can do everything on their phones." Listen to NPR's report below. Peter Weber
Late Night Tackles Trump and impeachment
President Trump's impeachment trial kicked off Tuesday, and "soon we will find out if breaking the law is illegal — gotta say, so far I don't like the odds," Stephen Colbert said on Tuesday's Late Show. If Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) gets his way, there will be "no evidence, no witnesses, just 100 old people stuck in a room together. This isn't a trial, it's the 4 o'clock dinner rush at Denny's."
Lead impeachment prosecutor Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) explained why McConnell's rules make a mockery of trials, and even if that makes no difference, Colbert said, "it just feels good for someone to stand up and name the lie we can all plainly see." He thought less of Trump's legal team's loud protestations.
"Trump's defense team isn't even denying that he did what he's accused of, they just say it doesn't rise to the level of impeachment — which is like Jeffrey Dahmer arguing it didn't rise to the level of cannibalism," Jimmy Kimmel said at Kimmel Live. Senate Republicans "don't care about evidence, they know he's guilty," and "if you have a problem with that — which you should, no matter what side you're on — the best thing you can do is vote."
All senators, meanwhile, don't get screen time and can only drink water or milk — "the same rules I have for my 5- and 2-year-old children," Kimmel joked. "Why do I feel like Vice President Pence had something to do with the milk rule?"
"The only other place you'll see water and milk is in Mike Pence's beer helmet," Jimmy Fallon agreed at The Tonight Show. And while "senators have to remain silent and they can't use their phones," he added, "Trump will be screaming at the TV while tweeting from the toilet."
"No talking, no phones, no unapproved bathroom breaks or you could go to jail?" Trevor Noah said at The Daily Show. "This doesn't sound like a trial, it sounds like detention." He noted that "Trump's 'I Love the '90s' legal team" includes Kenneth Starr, from Bill Clinton's impeachment, and former O.J. Simpson lawyer Alan Dershowitz, both "perfect for Trump because they have experience with super-guilty people and super horny presidents."
The Daily Show's Michael Kosta wryly defended McConnell's "speedy Senate trial."
Conan O'Brien, meanwhile, got assurances from fictional McConnell aide Jim Fence (Chris Parnell) that the trial will be fair, at least for Trump. Peter Weber


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1992.MM.DD - Excerpts from various interviews with members of Faith No More
by Blackstar Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:33 pm
RAW Magazine, May 27, 1992:
This fragile balancing act is about to join the equally combustible Guns n'Roses on their European stadium trek. "I don't really know what to expect," Roddy shrugs. "Big shows and a lot of people, sorrow and agony, soap opera acting. I've never heard them to tell you the truth."
"We haven't really experienced anything like that yet," Gould reveals. "This is our first time going out on the road with a band like that. We did do the Billy Idol tour and we were a little bit uncomfortable with that. It'll be interesting to see exactly how many Bodyguards Axl Rose has, I want the inside story. More than anything it's just something to poke fun at. Not to say that's what we're going to do, but..."
"We're the reporters and were going to get our scoop," Patton hollers. "We don't do any of those glamour things like flying first class and riding in limos I guess we're just dumb. Everybody always tells us that we can't afford to do it, so someone is walking around with a lot of money. We even flew over to the UK miserably this time. I couldn't get up and go to the bathroom 'cause I was sat in between two fat pigs slobbering over each other."
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NME, June 20, 1992:
I finger a 22-date tour itinerary, titled 'GN'FN'R'S: STORMING THE MOTHERLAND'. Among the Gunners' road crew listed are: Personal Assistant to Axl Rose, Assistant to Axl Rose, Assistant to Axl Rose's Assistant, and get this, Witch Doctor.
Keyboard player Roddy Bottum (ex-boyfriend of Courtney Love, trivia fans) tells me that a well-known female American artist employs a crew member specifically to blow cocaine up her anus with a straw.
"It's gossip that keeps this band alive. We're like a bunch of old ladies," muses Patton. "It's the only thing that's new when you're traveling in a time capsule. All you can do is talk shit."
FNM have struggled with their reasons for supporting on the GNR tour. Patton will admit openly that he's a "whore." Bill, meanwhile, enjoys an intimate view of the ugly circus: "GNR and their management are like a small government. Axl's the president, and his manager's a personal advisor. A couple of the other more visible band members are vice-presidents. Then there's the little guys who come underneath, to make sure only the right information is leaked out. They're dependent on the band for their living, so they will police themselves. Support bands are like other countries with whom they maintain a diplomatic front. Like, keep your mouth shut, enjoy the ride and everything will be cool. Open your mouth, and jeopardize your own position. It's an interesting thing to experience first hand."
In addition to the regular security, 500 CRS men have been deployed to the GNR gig. The stench of paranoia hangs heavy in the atmosphere.
As guests of FNM, we are shunted into a small marquee, which is absolutely bare save a couple of chairs and tables, and faces out toward the coach park at the back of the site. Ridgers and I are ordered not to move from the spot. However, our clot-ish guard does not prove too challenging to out-manoeuvre.
Duff McKagan lopes through the Gunners' terrain backstage. He looks punch-drunk, swollen and decaying. "That's business, man," Patton will comment drily. "You have to hold your hat off to the guy who's done that to him." Duff is hoisted up the back of the stage to watch FNM by two sides of beef in uniform. This is as much as I will see of GNR.
The FNM performance is fearsome -- even in the gentle light of the Paris afternoon -- the band bludgeoning their instruments obscenely. It is Patton, however, that really embodies the transition that FNM have made between the clean and linear shape of 'The Real Thing' and the 'Angel Dust' mania. The singer is quite willfully self-abusive; battering his body against stray monitor equipment, twisting mic leads tightly around his throat, he buckles and crawls, and lashes at obtrusive photographers, eyes sparkling like Hopper in Blue Velvet.
Fanatics stockpiled against the steel 'safety' barrier are suffocating directly behind me. The weaker are plucked out like mushrooms from manure, and stretchered away. Limp.
We are back on the bus, attempting to make a dash from the site, however the French tell FNM's long suffering tour manager, "va motorway iz brooken."
Barry Adamson's "Moss Side Story" is playing. Roddy, Patton and I watch a little fellow who is wobbling the monster gargoyles inflating on either side of GNR's stage, so as to achieve some kind of 'scary' effect. Pyro cannons explode. Search lights chase through the blackening skies.
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Rip It Up, July 1992:
This Seattle sound, or whatever, seems to have pretty much killed off the old leather pants style rocker - at least in New Zealand.
Patton: "Well you guys are lucky. They don't die in the States, they just mutate. To me there's a big equals sign between them and bands like Pearl Jam. They may look different, but they sound the same - scum are survivalists. We've been on tour a while so I can speak from experience - a cockroach is always a cockroach."
Talking of such, how's touring with Guns neuroses?
Patton: "We never have any contact at all. They seem to live in a whole different world so I can't relate to them. I can tell you funny stories and that's all."
Such as?
Patton: "A juicy tit bit I heard the other day was that Warren Beatty was fucking Axel's girlfriend. I think he knows because we had a show cancelled the other day and maybe - just maybe - that had something to do with it."
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Melody Maker, August 8, 1992:
Any other band in the world would cream their jeans over being asked to support Metallica and Guns n Roses on a megatour across the USA. Not Faith No More. They fuckin' hate it, maaaaan! Come to that, they fuckin' hate just about everything. Matt 'Tex' Smith gets in the firing line.
I resist the desire to pull out my dog-eared copy of "Wuthering Heights", and talk to Patton about Guns N' Roses instead.
AXL'S GOING BALD
"He is, he really is! They were playing one night and Duff walks up to Axl and pats him on the head like a loving comrade-type thing and Axl Rose immediately brings the show to a halt, this is in front of 80,000 people, and be screams, 'Don't you ever touch my head again, motherfucker!' Duff just walked away, wounded. We found out later that it was cos he's going bald and he's worried that, if you touch his hair, it will fall out. Every follicle counts.
"He came up to me the other night and said, 'Hey, man, your song really helped me through some really heavy shit in my life'. I said, 'Really? What song is that?' He said, 'Midlife Crisis'. 'What kind of shit?' l asked, He looked at the ground for about an hour then shook his head and said, 'Mmm, just a lot of shit, man'. I tell you, I was biting my lip so hard trying not to loose it. 'We've given up trying to be quiet about their stupid games. It's gotta come out somewhere. For a while we were a little cautious of saying anything, but we were uncomfortable with that. Did you know about the Warren Beatty thing?"
"Then, for the last show of the European tour, Axl's psychic (who has her own bodyguard) went out and blessed his microphone and blessed the stage."
I ask Jim, who seems to have taken on Puffy's role as group loner since the recording of the "Angel Dust" album, whether he'd join the headliners given half a chance. "I sure would!"
What? No loyalty to the rest of the band? "Absolutely not."
"And more than that," Roddy interrupts. "We'd be happy to get rid of him. Tie him up in a bow and put a stamp on his ass."
What do you think you could bring to them, Jim?
"Nothing," he replies. "I'd just take from them. All these guys are implying that they hate Guns N'Roses, but they actually admire Slash as a guitar player."
"That's probably true," Billy acknowledges. "if we hated them a little more we'd probably be more forthright.
"I'd fuck Slash in a minute," says Roddy. "Trouble is, I think he'd nod off and be a bit dozy I think he'd be very romantic, take me out for a nice dinner and pay for my cab back to my hotel and say, 'See ya tomorrow'. Actually, I'm being sarcastic. He's not my type at all. Who is? Actually, I kinda like the look of Kriss Kross."
Patton warms to the idea in a most unprintable way.
"I'd like to mastermind a group of retarded rappers. Who would give a bad review to a retarded rap band? You'd be a villain! People would buy it for that reason: Morbid curiosity, guilt, sympathy. You could play on every emotion."
AXE MURDERERS Of THE WORLD UNITE
AS we enter the environs of the stadium, the bus glides past 32 Mac trucks, their silver bodies glinting in the Pittsburgh sunshine.
"Guns N'Roses use 'em to stash all the money," Roddy sneers. The stadium car park itself is a mass of sweaty, human flesh. As they walk passed its occupants hidden behind tinted windows, pieces of meat in an attempt to be a part of whatever rock n roll dream they think is being enacted inside.
"Look at those fuckers," Roddy snarls. "I hate you,and you,and I'd like to shoot you in the mouth," he adds, as one particularly bloated example wobbles past.
"I don't wanna go backstage," Patton screams. "I'm not getting out of this bus 'til one minute before we are due on"
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El Paso Times, August 7, 1992:
And on the stadium tour, Faith No More is at the mercy of Axl Rose, the temperamental GN'R lead singer who has earned the tour title "The Little Prince." The past six shows have been canceled after Rose didn't like getting hit by a thrown hot dog in New York. Rumor also has it that Rose's psychic has told him not to play cities that begin with the letter "M."
Gould was in San Francisco for this interview, the day they were scheduled to play Minneapolis.
The lost performances have cost Faith No More about $30,000, Gould said.
"Really, only one guy knows if we'll be (in Las Cruces), and he's not telling," Gould said.
And as far as their role in this concert:
"We're the little guvs. We didn't expect any different," Gould said. "We'd be greatly overestimating our own worth if we did."
Tired of stadiums and the whims of others, Faith No More soon will headline its own six-week club tour, playing for crowds of one to 2,000.
"It'll be nice to get back."
OOR Magazine, August 8, 1992:
And how inspiring is it to be a support act to Guns 'n Roses?
Mike Patton: Better than I thought. I'd thought our presence there would be totally misplaced. We said: we may not like GNR, we may not like playing in open air stadiums in broad daylight, where we sound like shit and look like shit on a much too large stage that wasn't built for us, and we may not like the fact that people are paying too much money for a ticket...that's all true. But the fact is: it's a very good opportunity to reach a large audience that otherwise wouldn't have come to see us. And that's good. The other side of it is that we want to headline again. It will happen in October. Playing with a roof over our heads. We're at our best like that.
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Select Magazine, August 1992:
A Real Ugly Experience.
STORY BY MARK PUTTERFORD
IF THERE WAS ANY SUBSTANCE IN THE THEORY OF BEAUTY SLEEP, THEN FAITH No More would surely require a fix of Rip Van Winkle proportions.
You'd have to call them 'sartorially challenged', or perhaps 'aesthetically underprivileged', but in the liberated vocabulary of a distant society they might well be referred to as 'scruffy bastards'. Singer Mike Patton is the least beautiful of all. Inside the billowing cocoon of a huge catering marquee planted behind the stage area of Gateshead Stadium he shuffles from table to table in the most stomach-wrenching pair of leather knickerbockers imaginable, bought, he boasts, at an Iranian flea market in Paris and hewn from such crusty hide that "it feels like I've got half a dead cow wrapped around my balls". On his feet are boots a brickie wouldn't be seen dead in, on his back a tea towel masquerading as a T-shirt, on his head enough grease to fry a Full English Breakfast. As he approaches, a sixth sense urges you to train your eyes on your shoes, in case he thrusts a slimy palm under your nose and grunts something about "the price of a cuppa, guv?". "Guuuu-UUUU-OOOO-ooood!" is in fact his opening gambit when he eventually arrives, the celestial refrain stretching through a jaw-breaking yawn.
"I'm so tired, man. I mean, doing nuthin' kinda knocks me out, and we've had so much time off on this tour it's disgusting. There's, like, a week off between each show and when we do get to play it's only for 45 minutes. And it takes us five songs to warm up, then we've only got three songs left! It sucks..."
It's 6.30pm by the time Mike Patton slams himself into the stage floor one final time, and within a minute Faith No More are slumped across the leather sofas of a dressing room tastefully equipped with a sumptuous spread of food and several crates of ice-cold lager. They hardly need a dressing room as none of them wear anything onstage other than what they've had on all week, but if they needed a quiet place to pluck out their ear plugs (essential FNM stagewear), this specially adapted locker room, complete with potted plants and moody lighting effects, might as well be it.
The conversation, like almost everything with this band, leaps from one extreme to another Princess Diana, birth abnormalities, Spain, tunafish sandwiches, the Beastie Boys, com circles, radiation, ketamine, bestiality - it's difficult to keep up. Yet diarrhoea remains the recurring theme, the result of a bout of mass food poisoning caused, everyone suspects, by a cook who was spotted returning to duty from the lav without washing her hands. "I've just lost half my intestines!" wails Mark the tour manager from a nearby cubicle, strides visibly bunched around his ankles.
"C'mon Mark. Let's hear you hit that pan real hard," yells an excited Patton, "I want to hear that mutha echo." "Squirt for me baby, squirt." squeals the dreadlocked Mike Bordin, snatching lan Lawton's camera and holding it over the top of the cubicle door for a few paparazzi-style snaps. "I almost squirted tonight onstage," confesses Bill Gould. "It was real buttock-clenching time for a while there. Shit, I hope Axl doesn't have the same problem tonight, what with him wearing those tight, white pants an' all..."
"Hey," Mike Bordin exclaims, "didn't Axl speak to Jim yesterday?"
"Naw, I think it was Patton," says Bill, "I think he said, Huhrrrmmmnn as he flashed past with his minders."
"Oh, I heard it was more like, Rrrraaahhggg actually," adds Roddy. "Naw, I'm pretty sure it was, Huhrrrmmmnn," protests Bill. "Some guy said to Patton, Hey, Mike, Axl just spoke to you, and Patton was like, He did?"
BY AND LARGE, FNM FEEL THEY'VE BEEN TREATED well on this European trek with Guns N'Roses, although there's hardly been plenty of opportunities to hang out with their illustrious compatriots. As Bill says: "Touring with Axl has been like touring with Michael Jackson - although I think I've seen Michael Jackson more times on this tour than I have Axl."
You get the feeling that the FNM chaps haven't exactly had the time of their lives on the trip. Roddy was so bored after the Wembley Stadium show that he went to a Spiral Tribe rave in Blubberhouses, West Yorkshire, to help Select with its 'research'.
"We're not the kind of band that's made for this kind of stadium show," explains Bill. "It's just not what Faith No More is about. It may be good from a business point of view because our record has just come out, and what better way to promote it than to get on a big tour like this? But if we had our way we wouldn't be doing this; I'd rather do ten nights at the Newcastle Mayfair than one at Gateshead Stadium.
"I mean, it's cool to be out there in front of a lot of people, but man, the sound is shit, the place is too big, the crowd is a fuckin' mile away... It just lends itself to more of a cabaret act, the kind of band who want to indulge in all that theatrical bullshit, with costume changes every other song. I mean, we do change our clothes too, but usually only once a month."
The whole sickly circus that surrounds any GN'R activity has made life pretty difficult to bear for Faith No More as well. Ask any of the band how they feel being at the eye of the hurricane and chances are the enquiry will be met with an expression which suggests someone nearby has passed wind.
"When is this interview going to be printed?" asks Bill with a nervous laugh. "You see, I have to watch what I say...but hey, fuck that, just print this: I hate the whole circus thing, we all hate it. But at the moment we don't have the power to do what we want to do, so we still have to eat a little bit of shit. (Seems were back to the catering lady again) We almost have the power to control what we do, but not quite, so we're just gritting our teeth and getting through it best we can.
"Every band in the world might think they want to open for Guns N'Roses, but lemme tell you, it's been a real ugly personal experience, having to deal with all the shit that surrounds this fuckin circus. I've always hated that aspect of rock music and I've never wanted to be part of it, so to find myself being associated with a tour this big kinda sucks."
"Besides," Roddy pipes up, "I'm getting more and more confused about who's who in Guns N'Roses, and it's blowing my mind. There's Dizzy and Iggy and Lizzy and Tizzy and Gilby and Giddy... Shit man, onstage now there's a horn section, two chick back-up singers, two keyboard players, an airline pilot, a basketball coach, a coupla car mechanics..."
IN THE BACKGROUND, GUNS N' ROSES CAN BE HEARD launching into 'Live And Let Die', and those still hanging in the FNM dressing room exchange silent smirks. They're gonna have to put up with all of this until October, as, shortly after the European tour ends, an all-conquering bill of Guns, Metallica and FNM is set to mop up the States throughout the rest of the summer and autumn. But then they're free to do what the hell they want to do, which will probably mean headlining a European tour of their own before Christmas, with someone like The Young Gods supporting.
"This is really just the beginning for us," sighs Bill. "Last time we toured with 'The Real Thing' I left home at the age of 26 and got back when I was 28. I found some of my friends had moved away, some had got married, some had had kids... I had a hard time dealing with that. This time I'm 29, and I know I'm gonna be on the road until I'm 31. Fuck, I don't even wanna think about it..."
Mike Patton shuffles back into the room with a pint of coffee in a transparent plastic container and welcome news that it's almost time to get on the bus for the long haul to London, where they'll crash the night before heading on to some Godforsaken German hell-hole.
Guns N'Roses will be flying down in their private jet, Axl probably on a magic carpet. But that doesn't bother Faith No More, least of all the explosion-in-an-Oxfam-shop figure of young Patton who, after all, is just as happy playing with and promoting his other part-time band, the mysterious Mr Bungle.
"I can't see this band going that way," he grins, "we'd probably go the other way and end up hitchin' rides to each town with truck drivers or something."
Patton paws his little goatee beard and smiles, as if someone has just tossed ten pence into his cup. Somehow, you cant imagine him flashing by, surrounded by bodyguards with only a "Huhrrnnmmnn" (or perhaps a "Rrrraaahhggg") for his fellow tourists, in a few years time. But then, such is the sick, schizo world of Faith No More, that maybe he will...
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Hot Metal, August 1992:
See! It really isn't easy trying to make sense of all this. And if you've heard any of 'Angel Dust' you'll understand exactly why that is. Faith No More (who, apart from the reprobates already mentioned, is made up of Roddy Bottum on keyboards, Jim Martin on guitars, and Mike Bordin on drums) are not out to do what you expect of them, but merely to do what they expect of themselves. 'Angel Dust' is by no means just a follow-up album to the hugely successful, chart-shaking 'The Real Thing'. No, this is the San Franciscan quintet's fourth album and it will stand or fall on its own merits.
"When we did 'The Real Thing'," exlpains Billy, "we had a tiny budget, we were broke and on top of that nobody really gave a shit about us. Nobody knew what kind of music we played and nobody could classify us. We were at a real disadvantage in those days, but now we're at a real advantage." Adding to the advantageous position the band find themselves in is the fact that all through June and most of July this year they joined Spundgarden as support to the metal circus that is Guns 'N' Roses' European tour. And then, from July 17 to who knows when, they'll be warming the stage for Metallica and the Gunners on their co-headlining jaunt around America. Rock 'n' roll or wot?
"Oh God yes," agrees the now short-haired Patton. "Its a total spectacle, a sick circus..."
And what part of this sideshow do Faith No More play? My guess is the freak show, or perhaps the clowns. I'm wrong again.
"We're not even involved. We're just watching it. Guns 'N' Roses are the circus... it's amazing... it's just a lot of money and way too much time to spend it in."
Continuing the theory that Faith No More never really listen to each other, or totally disregard what the others say, Billy Gould thinks "it's fucking amazing that we even got on the tour, one of the biggest tours in the world. I don't know... I mean, aesthetically we're different!
"I think it's good though. I've gotta give Guns 'N" Roses credit, and give Metallica credit, too. Right now it's really responsible of them to pick bands that are different because they didn't have to do that. They could pretty much tour with anybody."
Referring back to the tour's carnival atmosphere and blatant excess, and hinting at Faith No More's unerring ability to be the fly in the ointment, Patton adds, "It's more like you see so many thing that are fucked up that you wanna say something - and we're already pushing it. The amazing thing is that everybody knows something is going to happen," he laughs. "By the time we get to the States, I'm sure something will have happened!" Mike didn't have to wait very long for something to happen. On the day of our interview, Guns 'N' Roses decided, two hours before they were due on stage, that Axl was "too exhausted" to play to 30, 000 eager fans in Manchester, England.
Billy says that kind of thing has happened every day, that the Gunners go on stage late "all the time. We wouldn't do it, so I don't know why it is. I'd like to know myself!"
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The Face, August 1992:
Why do you go so mad on stage?
Mike Patton: 'I always feel a need to provoke, especially if we're supporting some band like Guns N' Roses and people aren't really listening. By insulting them, you make them at least look: it's the lowest common denominator. When I do flips, I always land correctly, I only bruise myself. But I do have an ongoing fight with glass which I keep losing. Once my arms were flailing and I cut four tendons and the main nerve in my right hand. It's practically numb now.'
Mike Patton: 'What a nebulous fucking question. Ha ha! I saw two people in a bar recently, really drunk and flirting with each other. My first instinct was "Oh my God!" 'cause I knew one of them. They were sitting on high bar stools and they were learning forwards, just about to kiss, when they fell off and crashed to the ground. Justice!'
Mike Patton: 'Axl Rose and Warren Beatty.'
Can we print that? Axl probably won't see it anyway.
Mike Patton: 'Oh yes he will. He has Axl policemen checking things like that for him.'
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St. Louis Post-Dispatch, September 11, 1992:
WORD CAME through the grapevine that the San Francisco hard rock quintet Faith No More, currently wrapping up a U.S. tour with Guns Ν' Roses, was dishing more dirt on Axl Rose.
Last year, while touring England with GNR, Faith No More told tales that among other things had Rose hiring a personal exorcist, something GNR publicists later denied.
Because of Rose's status as an antihero here, owing to the GNR/Ri-verport riot during the summer of '91, I felt obliged, in a phone interview, to prod FNM bassist Billy Gould for Axl Rose stories.
"Call me back in 10 days,'' the bassist demurred. "I'll tell you anything you want to know. That's when we get off this tour. All I'll say is, everything you've heard is true.''
OK, OK — this is supposed to be a Faith No More story. They will perform Sept. 18 at the American Theatre. "Still," I demanded, "how is it you guys have come to be so careful?"
"At the level we're dealing with now, it's all politics," explained Gould. "We've got big mouths. We had big mouths when we were in school and we have big mouths now. It's just that now when you have a big mouth, everybody reads what you have to say like it's a valid opinion or something.
"It's funny because every adviser we have says, 'Just don't talk about this,' or 'Just don't mention that' or 'As your career adviser I advise you just to keep your mouth shut.' " "Career advisers"!? — what an intriguing concept. What I mean is, this band emits a certain intensity. Their latest longplayer, "Angel Dust," confronts listeners with songs like "Crack Hitler," a clenched, toxic snarl having to do with a cocaine dealer, and the corrosive, expres-sionistic "Jizzlobber." And now I find out that they're saddled with "career advisers"?
"We don't like to say those words," Gould said. "But it's there. I mean, there's too much money in this business for people to want you not to have that kind of thing. There're too many other people behind the scenes, making money.
"Musicians, to most people in the music business, are real estate. And they're not going to let their investment go away just because the guy's got a big mouth. And they have more to gain than the actual artists themselves.
"I don't want to really trip out on it and say I'm upset that that's what's going on, or anything like that. It's just that there are little kinds of pressures that people aren't aware of."
Kerrang, September 19, 1992:
Testing The Faith
By Chris Watts
It is a fucking massive tour. It is reputedly the hottest North American rock for years. It looks like it. The luxury trek has crossed Europe and most of America. It will grind to a halt this week, and Faith No More will breathe a sigh of relief. It's not easy touring with Guns N' Roses and Metallica.
"It's not a rock n roll tour really," muses bassist Bill Gould, surveying the Texas Stadium in Dallas. "It's a mini empire."
Some redneck asshole strolls past. His T-shirt says 'Shut Up Stupid Bitch'. Two micro-skirted starf**kers emerge from one of the 40 equipment trucks on the tour, closely followed by two grinning riggers. The girls are clutching passes for Metallica's backstage complex. It's funny.
It's not bad going for a bunch of five upstart Californian pranksters. It's okay that Faith No More go on stage at four o'clock in the afternoon and only get to play for 45 minutes. It's okay that they have to drive 1,000 miles to the next gig in a bus when Metallica and Guns N' Roses fly in a privately chartered 747 and DC10 respectively. It's okay that the band are afforded just one paragraph in the local papers. It's okay that the girl in the ticket office of the Houston Astradome has never heard of them, and it's okay that no one seems to be wearing a Faith No More T-shirt. As Jim Martin comments:
"People who buy Faith No More T-shirts just don't like to wear them in public!"
It might just be okay that Faith No More are the Support Band That Axl forgot.
AXL ROSE is invisible but his presence is overwhelming. The backstage outer circle is a heaving paranoia of publicists, lackeys and diplomats. Everybody claims to know the little singer. Well, they've never actually met him, but... GN'R arrive at the stadium mere minutes before they are due on stage. As usual they are late. Slash is the only member of the band to walk to the sprawling arena stage. The rest are driven in a transit van to the stage ramp, emerging with minders in tow, then disappearing into their limos almost before the dying chords of 'Paradise City' have been struck. Axl has only ever spoken to Faith No More once, via tour managers. The surly missive relayed a message that if Mike Patton ever asked the crowd to throw beer at Jim Martin again then the band would be off the tour. The crowd take this as a sign of approval and spend the concert hurting projectiles at anything onstage. Axl doesn't like getting his feet wet.
"We've had a few close calls," Patton admits. "We're lucky to still be here." "This tour is like a crowning glory for both headline bands," says Mike 'Puffy' Bordin. "There hasn't been a tour like this for years. We're not used to the atmosphere. To me, the atmosphere is not really conducive to this band playing well. It's like the Village People syndrome. Show Business. Mass entertainment."
Bill Gould: "It's difficult playing every night to people who aren't interested in us. Maybe some of them do hate us, but that's cool. If they didn't hate us a little bit we'd feel like we were kissing ass."
"I feel like a zoo animal up there," Patton comments.
"It's like when you fart in the presence of someone you shouldn't. You laugh. It's like a nervous reaction to the whole scale of things out there. It's embarrassing. "You have to take a certain amount of reality out there with you. We just walk out without an intro tape, in the middle of the afternoon, and play stuff. It's like, 'Here we are, people' Time to start!'.
"Basically, we are a small band. We are a pubic hair in Guns N' Roses' shower!"
FROM THE stage of the Texas Stadium the crowd looks terrifying. The sound is haphazard, but Faith No More cope. Combating indifference is something that Patton enjoys. This afternoon he rounds on Jim Martin. The singer catches the guitarist throwing a plectrum into the front rows. "Is he throwing shit at you?" Patton asks. The crowd cheer. "I think you have the right to throw shit back at him! This is an open invitation to f**k Jim"
"F**k me!" growls Jim, standing alone in the middle of a shower of plastic glasses. Behind the scenes, Faith No More's reputation for personal animosity towards each other is starting to get ugly. The enormous scale of this tour is affecting the band. Their reaction to the "Village People syndrome" differs drastically.
Patton, Gould and Roddy Bottum return from a backstage walkabout to discover Jim Martin in heaven. The guitarist is standing on a table, trying to persuade a vacant blonde to remove her top for the camera. The band stride past the couple and slam into their dressing room. Patton's furious.
"That is f**king vile!" he shouts. "F**k that! God, what an asshole! I don't want anything to do with that. That sucks! Goddamn it, man! F*'k him. That's Bullshit."
"It's kind of a hard thing to say," sighs Roddy, "but that's kind of anti what we're all about. All the bad things about this tour are outside the window right now. It's disgusting. It's ridiculous."
"Hey, Jim," Patton sneers, "who are you pandering to? Shit. Next question."
WHAT'S WRONG with Jim having his photograph taken with a large breasted female?
Bill Gould: "Nothing's wrong with it. It's just such a cheesy way out. It's the easy way out. It's the cliche."
But the girl volunteered. She wasn't press-ganged.
"But that doesn't mean that we have to go along with it," says Patton. "I cannot take that seriously."
Bill Gould tries to rescue the situation.
"I think you're right," he says. "That is the real world. To 50,000 people in the audience that is the real world of rock 'n' roll."
Roddy doesn't care. "But we've never catered for that in the past, so there's no reason why we should pander to it now."
Bill: "And you just know that you're gonna pick that shot for the cover! It's not a true picture of what this band is all about. It is of Jim, sure."
This from a band who reputedly tied a groupie to a hotel bed and let their road crew piss on her.
"Where did you hear that?" Patton exclaims. From someone she now works with in London.
Patton: "WHAT? NO WAY!" "We didn't tie her up," admits Bill. "It wasn't the road crew either. Maybe we just look like the road crew!
Anyway, she was in the shower. Jim couldn't piss, which is surprising for the amount of beer he drinks! I never thought we'd hear about that again."
Patton: "How did you hear about that stuff?!"
Bill: "She didn't mind. I think there's a difference between doing that - for whatever reasons - and doing what Jim is doing outside for the benefit of a photographer. It means different things to Jim than to us. That is exactly what Jim is. Jim is the token rocker in Faith No More!"
FOR HIS part. Big Sick Ugly Jim Martin is having a ball. In Houston, the guitarist is reunited with his cousins. Bob, Marie, Robert and Wanda are backstage at the Astradome, obviously thrilled with Jim's performance. They take snapshots and swap stories of the band's first appearance in Houston at the infinitely smaller Warehouse club. Robert has never seen the band perform until tonight, but is nonetheless full of praise.
SO THE tour is coming to a close. After each of the most recent concerts, GN'R's crew have been throwing parties for themselves. Last night in Houston they organised 20 strippers. Tonight in Dallas there are rumours of a strip-fest involving 50 girls! Jim tries to manipulate a vote to stay in Dallas. He is unanimously out-voted.
"I hope you will go in my place and be my official party delegates!" he grunts. We never did make it. The local reviews praise FNM's performance. The Dallas Fort Worth Star reported that 'there was no great outcry for an encore, which seemed to suit Faith No More just fine'. The same paper is less kind to GN'R. Adjectives like 'self-indulgent' are bandied about.
The final verdict? 'The Gunners' show has too many stadium rock touches. Faith No More don't care. Ahead of them are 1 ,000 miles of road before another brief appearance and more audience humiliation.
"Our job is just to be ourselves and not to suck corporate dick," says Patton. "But I'm looking forward to playing the smaller venues on our own tour after this. I just can't imagine this band becoming as big as Metallica. I don't think I'd enjoy it.
"This tour is not a real thing. The best thing about it is that at the end we can all just pack up and walk away. from it. The other bands on the bill have to live with it."
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Details Magazine, September 1992
Twist of Faith
By William Shaw
Faith No More wreak anarchy in the UK. William Shaw reports from London and Manchester.
No one put a pistol to their heads and told them they had to tour with Guns N' Roses. Faith No More thought it would be good for their bank balance. Now, after three weeks of shows, they're bored silly.
Monday they arrive in London from Paris. Tuesday morning, singer Mike Patton gets a phone call in his Kensington hotel room telling him tonight's show in Manchester has been canceled. Axl Rose is suffering from exhaustion. Patton, looking a bit like an auto mechanic no one would trust, howls like it's the funniest thing he's ever heard. Downstairs an unshaven, dispirited bass player sits in the lobby. Unlike Patton, Billy Gould says he was looking forward to tonight's concert, if only because it would give him something to do. "But I can understand how Axl would be kind of exhausted, with this rigorous schedule of ours," he deadpans.
So far, the Guns N' Roses European tour is averaging two concers per week. FNM are used to gigging six nights out of seven.
But FNM don't share a common musical goal so much as a collective loathing for good taste. The whole stadium-tour circus bugs them.
"I wouldn't go to the show," Patton tells me about their upcoming date at Wembley. "It's a spectator sport. If we can be annoying, then we've accomplished something. I think."
I take Gould and Patton for a meal in Portobello Road. They start talking unguardedly about touring with GNR. Out it all pours. Patton claims one crew member got sacked just for bumping into Axl when the singer was changing costumes one night. Warming to the theme, Gould says that he heard Axl hired an exorcist because he believed he was possessed by the spirit of the dead AC/DC singer Bon Scott. (GNR's publicist later denies both of these tales, adding that "it's physically impossible for anyone to bump into Axl.") They paint Axl as a cranky headmaster that everyone's afraid of. But their stories are backstage hearsay. The fact is, they never get to see Axl much at all.
One of Axl's minders has told Patton that Axl really likes Mr. Bungle. The minder says Axl wants to get into something heavier, more industrial. "Industrial," laughs Patton maniacally, banging the table. "That's sick!"
They have sampled Axl's voice and used it a few times in their stage act, but no one seems to notice. GNR don't watch their shows. Patton thinks they may sometimes watch them over the monitors from their backstage area, but he's not sure. "I think watching us might get in the way of snorting coke from some strippers snatch," Pattons says laughing....
In the restaurant, Patton shares a secret. Axl has TV screens on stage that display the song words in case he forgets them. On the last night of the tour, Mike Patton tells me he wants "to take a shit right on top of those TV screens, in front of tens of thousands of people."
Mike "Puffy" Bordin confides to me he's worried FNM will get thrown off this tour because of the way the band is behaving. They're too unguarded about slagging GNR.
When I tell Patton this, he wheezes with laughter. "See?" he says. "That's what he's frightened of, but that's what excites me the most." Mike's eyes shine. "Three weeks into the tour and we're already pushing it. We're going to spend the summer with these guys. To me there's nothing... no real reason why we're doing this tour. I mean, it makes real business sense, but on a personal level we have to provoke. To me, that's our duty."
The Wembley show is in a couple hours. Patton changes into a shirt that features the Route 666 logo of a Texas noise band. Jim martin puts on one that sports the moniker of his favorite defunct metal band, the Mentors.
Slash, Duff, and Matt from GNR appear in a rehearsal room down the corridor and start jamming. Slash is wearing a t-shirt that says "Fuck." A cigarette pokes out through a mass of hair.
Queen's Brian May appears, looking sheepish in white clogs and a loud shirt. He plugs in a guitar and joins in the jam, rehearsing a GNR encore he's going to play on.
Jim watches them rehearse. "What's up, Satan?" he calls to Slash.
Slash looks up. "Hey," he waves at Jim, "where'd you get that shirt?"
FNM don't get a soundcheck. They haven't had one all tour. Behind the stacks of gear, they wait to go on. One GNR flight case lays open, drawers marked with roadie jokes like "Lesbian Awareness Literature" or "Spare Panties." Billy lolls his head around, looking depressed. "People ask, 'Don't you get excited when you get onstage?'" he tells me. "For these gigs, it's more like I finally get to the head of the line in the department of motor vehicles."
Roddy, chain-smoking, explains that at concerts like this, even the audience knows how to perform. "They cheer the first group a little, the next band more, and so on."
Afterward, the group sit backstage in painful silence. After cooling their heels for a week, and pulling a hundred stupid stunts to pass the time before their show, they come away hating the set. They thought they performed abysmally.
Kerry, the pierced fan, disagrees, swearing it was a great show. The band's reaction to the show has more to do with their own depressed state of mind than anything else. In reality it was a riveting performance, dominated by Patton's frantic charisma. He'll crouch down on his haunches like a medieval gargoyle, then spring up and fling himself forward until his feet sail over his head and he'll slap back down on the stage, barking out dementedly the whole time. Before launching into a song, he'll boom out at the crowd of 70,000, "I bet you feel pretty stupid out there."
"Actually," Roddy says, in the dressing room post-match analysis, "I've got to say, Sometimes, Mike, you come off a little arrogant."
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Kerrang, November 28, 1992:
That's how FAITH NO MORE bassist BILL COULD describes the experience of touring with Guns N' Roses. But despite the band's attempts to "diss" him in the press, Axl Rose was "pretty cool"! Now liberated from the stadium millstone and back in the UK playing theatres, FNM are feelin' much more at home - and actually like each other for the first time in years! MIKE GITTER is the man sprinkling a little 'Angel Dust'...
Making Friends With The Devil
BOREDOM CAN have that effect. Being on tour with Guns N' Roses, and then Guns N' Roses and Metallica, since what seems like the dawn of time will almost certainly drive you to it. Faith No More have endured both.
"It was really good for the band," Billy admits, tactfully. "But it wasn't really good for our heads."
That's an understatement. As the bassist intones: "Things happen when our minds are given the space to degenerate".
Let's talk pros and cons of living in a situation known as 'The Circus', with its staff numbering into the hundreds of crew, chiropractors, publicists, diplomats, witch doctors...
"The good thing was playing in front of 80,000 people a night, when on our own we'd bring maybe 3,000 people to a show," Gould calculates. "So we'd have to play 200 shows to make up for one Guns N' Roses' show's worth of people."
"Unfortunately," he says, "we're used to much more relaxed situations, just being able to hang out after the show and not having to worry about our fans shooting us or anything. Getting thrown into that atmosphere was really uncomfortable. Plus, with the security so intense, what can you do backstage? Get drunk and look at strippers? Oh yeah, that's real exciting." So what were some of the more 'creative' ways to amuse yourself? "Being able to talk shit in the press and have a lot of people read it! That was really fun. That was how we got our amusement. We like to create dissension. It was this gigantic body of people that travel just like some big circus, where no one ever really communicates with each other. We thought that if we could stir it up just enough to where we wouldn't get in trouble, it might make it more interesting! After all, it's kind of uncool when a band invites you on tour and you diss 'em a little bit just to have some fun."
APPARENTLY, INVISIBLE ringmaster Rose caught wind of the shenanigans. Faith No More's hi-jinks in the press, and decided to arrange a little meet-and-greet for their own benefit.
"He read all the bad press we said about him and asked us about it!" Bill Gould chuckles. "We actually talked to him for a while, and y'know what? He was pretty cool! "One day we came to the concert, and Axl was there waiting for us. Like, 'What's the deal?'. And we just said we tried to stir up as much trouble as we could. We told him we felt like that was our job, and he just laughed. He just sat and explained his position to us a little bit. He's an easy guy to take pot-shots at, and we definitely went for the easy thing. "He was cool about it. He likes to see the system shook up as much as anyone, but he's in an awkward position. We left the tour friendly. It was like making friends with the Devil. I thought all hell was gonna come down, and he let us off with, 'Aw, right, you f"kin' idiots'. "That was a cool response. Most people in his position would have been real uptight dicks. I can think of 100 other bands we've done a lot less to that have freaked out 10 times as bad!"
BILLY IS ecstatic to be out on the road in Faith No More's own twisted merits once again. "Y'know what's funny about being on the Guns N' Roses/Metallica thing?" he points out. "It was the biggest tour in the world, and the most happening tour any band could ever want to be part of. We did it. And we realised it wasn't that big a deal. "It's like getting a Platinum record - just a thing to do, and once you do it and realise that you're not any happier, you learn what it is that makes you happy. That's why we did 'Angel Dust'. I dunno, after being out on our own for the past four weeks it seems like we're just at the beginning of things. Everything else was like one long, strange dream."
Faith No More are back on UK soil. "Forget the glamour and mumble a jack hammer." It's bound to get stranger.
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Sky Magazine, December 1992:
Mike's pierced eyebrow epitomizes Faith No More's finger to the world. With a trail of trashed hotels and hospitalized fans behind them and a singer who, ahem, doesn't use the toilet, FNM make most grunge bands look like The Osmonds. Simon Witter joined them on the American leg of a tour which has now hit Britain.
Mike Patton is running wild-eyed through the foyer of Grand Rapids' Club Eastbrook, dragging a chunky skinhead by the collar. "Get on stage and fucking stay there!" he shouts as they head back to the auditorium. Tonight Patton is not the bouncers' friend, but then security has been winding him up something rotten. Not that it takes a lot to wind Patton up. On stage he seems born to be intense.
wo days into this odyssey, and I've yet to see any sign that any of FNM (bar Jim) are anything other than the kind of guys you'd want your sister to marry. So open, trusting, kindly and hospitable. Where did they get their reputation?
"A lot of pieces written about us," explains Patton, "selectively edit together all the vile and disgusting stuff, which is fine, cos nobody wants to read about us making coffee."
"But I don't think we buy into a lot of the myths of what we're doing. We just lived with that for three months [GNR], and saw so much of it... The whole idea that there has to be something outrageous and abnormal is washed up and gone. I mean we do our own thing, like I don't use toilets -- I just don't. It's not a wild rock n' roll thing; it's a hobby -- shit terrorism. I did a shit on the bench outside Charles and Diana's palace, but that didn't cause any rumpus. It could have been anyone's shit really. The consistency wasn't so good. It wasn't a prizewinning trophy."
They've caused offence in other ways too. Although GNR gave them their big break by specifically inviting them to support them on tour, FNM hardly seemed grateful at the time. All the press generated while FnM were touring with GNR was bursting with vitriolic attacks on Rose & Co. They simply aren't able to put a sock in it. "Oh, it was real ugly!" says Billy.
"We said a lot of shit, and didn't realize how bad it was until we got caught. Axl was real straight with us, but it was an ugly scene. He said: 'It's like I went away and came back home to find you guys fucked my wife.' We were thrown off the tour for five hours, but we apologized. It was like being in the principal's office. He said, 'I only like you guys, Nirvana, Jane's Addiction, and two other bands, and all of you hate me. Why do you hate me?'" "We're still hoping he hasn't read some of it," Patton chips in. "We were just being honest, and that felt great, but it can also get you killed. As far as the press was concerned, we were like caged animals. They'd throw us a little bit of meat and we'd attack. And we realized that we were the ones who were getting screwed. The interviews that we did belonged in the National Enquirer. We were like a gossip column rather than a band."
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Re: 1992.MM.DD - Excerpts from various interviews with members of Faith No More
by Soulmonster Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:07 am
Really interesting, especially the last interviews where they talk about Axl having a meeting with them. I kind of understand why they behaved the way they did, and their almost embarrassed reaction afterwards make sense, too.
by Blackstar Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:01 pm
Slash wrote in his autobiography that he was also at the meeting - in fact, that he was the one who called it:
We had a much more antagonistic situation on our hands with our other support band, Faith No More, once their front man, Mike Patton, started talking shit about us onstage. We let it go once, twice, but after that, that was it. We had to have a talk with him. Axl came in with me, as did their guitarist Jim Martin, because Jim was as fed up with Mike as we were. "Listen, man," I said. "If you don't like it here, just fucking leave. It can't be like this. Either let's do this thing and make it great, or forget it, go home." They ended up finishing the tour and that was the last outburst we heard from Mike during their set. [Slash's autobiography, 2007]
Maybe there were two meetings: one with Slash, Axl, Patton and Jim Martin, and one between Axl and all the members of Faith No More.
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