This thorny subject has raised its head again – selling samples is something that has been happening long before bloggers and influencers. Diary Directory (industry directory) ran a brief article outlining suggested codes of conduct for both influencers, journalists and PRs which set the whole subject in motion again.
Historically, this is a practice that has always gone on – a 'nearly new' store in Kensington was a known spot to hit for cut-price designer fashion and beauty bargains due to its location (near a well-known publication or two), which the launch of Ebay eventually put paid to. At that time 'influencers' didn't exist and with less people to send to, brands were very generous – entire collections would arrive at your desk. When blogs and Instagram also didn't even exist, beauty product that wasn't creamed off and quietly disposed of went to internal beauty sales, with the proceeds going to charity.
It's so much more complicated than just suggesting that product should be given to charity. A lot of my product goes to local events (school fund-raisers, etc), dry shampoo to the local old people's home (easy because it's next door!) and raffle prizes. I have a couple of 'sales' annually where the money goes to charity – something that I worry about if I can't actually prove where it went (often the first charity box I see at the station) so I'm more strict about where it goes now. Charities usually don't actually want used make-up or half a bottle of cleanser and the entire purpose of a site that tests is that you use the product.
We've fallen into a murky area regarding expectation. Product just arrives – it's not a controllable thing. It's impossible to say what the expectation from a brand is when they send out 54 shades of foundation to one person or what the thought process was behind the decision to do so but I suspect that going large is what gets them an extra avalanche of Instagram hits so samples, and how they're sent, are as much a part of the marketing message as anything else. I've been sent more helium balloons than I can mention, giant 'novelty' boxes containing two or three products and hampers the size of a wardrobe. I very rarely publish anything about them because the whole 'look what I've got' thing just isn't for me although I'll invariably feature the products. In the end, some of it goes in the bin – sad to say, but I'm not going to be the one that sends retinol to the primary school for some five year old to give their mum a red face for Christmas.
There are more aspiring influencers than you can possibly imagine. They see what their favourite Instagrammers get from brands and that becomes their aspiration – to get stuff. If there is one thing that Instagrammers are good at is creating an idealized world that looks as though they're at the receiving end of a continuous stream of generosity and money. There is a handful living that reality, making it look easy for everyone else. It's not easy. In fact, many would-be influencers never make a penny and their moment in the spotlight is extremely brief. I can see how selling a few PR samples can seem to be just compensation for promoting a brand – entirely expected by brands, by the way. Because that's where we are at – the aspiration is to be able to promote products. Receiving and showing 'pr' is the entire purpose of some accounts because nobody new knows any different any more.
The Diary (HERE) suggests not requesting PR samples that you don't intend to use. But, what if you've put all your eggs in the influencer basket because of how easy it seems and the only way in the moment to finance this is to try and recoup some costs from a parcel of make up? Brands look like an endless supply so it doesn't look like there's anything wrong with that. Diary also suggests to PRs (if there are any…. It's mainly marketers now) to be mindful of what they're sending – both are good suggestions, but when you've got a marketing department that's ordered 500 specially made boxes rammed to the hilt, what can you do? You have to send them. Back in the day, PRs ruled with a rod of iron but their positions are so undermined in favour of marketing that their local, on the ground, knowledge is ignored.
A lot of brands really don't care – they're aiming for reach, not quality. That authenticity that brands proclaim to want so much? Not really – they just want to smash it on Instagram and they're not that bothered how it happens. The measure of a good campaign is how many people 'liked' the product, not whether it's a good product.
There are now resale sites where influencers openly sell their unwanted products. So, you can see what's been sent out. I'm looking right now at Bobbi Brown, Bondi Sands, Benefit and Elemis. Fashion-wise, I can see M&S, Top Shop and K-Swiss. Added to that, the influencers themselves are showcasing, so you can shop by influencer if you want to. Some, I'm sure, are purchases they made themselves, but it's a stretch of credulity to imagine they all bought the same Reebok (e.g.) top and decided they didn't want it any more.
It's a little sanctimonious to suggest they should all off-load to charity – I'm not going to make any assumptions that they don't already. Those items have done their job – appeared on Instagram – so don't they now belong to the influencer to do as they please with? Could the brands care less? I doubt it.
None of this is new – social media has just made it more visible and prevalent. We're going round in circles where brands give, recipient sells and everyone should be happy; it's the perfect recycling, after all. In reality, it's created a frenzy of product chasing – where you either succeed or fail at influencing. The more you get, the more successful you are – marketers now have their ultimate dream: that their products are seen as benchmarks of success and people are falling over themselves to oblige.
Except, it's making a lot of people very unhappy. At the waste, at the excess and at the bench-marking – its origins are fuelling competitiveness, insecurity and a sense of failure. I don't have any answers here – all I know is that sample selling is now comes from a highly complex and emotive place, and quite frankly it was better when journalists quietly sent their excess face creams to their mum to sell to her friends. It was discrete, uncomplicated and an unspoken way to raise a little extra to supplement the woeful press salaries.
Fantastic article Jane on what is such a murky subject, the word "gift" often being attached to samples suggest just that, and if Auntie Flo gifts you a hideous jumper are you obligated to keep it?
I saw a comment the other day from a blogger that said if brands actually paid bloggers they wouldn't need to sell! The other thing that often occurs to me is that the brand could be getting double promo, the purchaser could be a blogger that didn't get PR and buys the product cheap to feature?
Actually, that's a good point. The whole dumbing down of what are actually product samples comes from brands themselves – i.e. gifts, goodies, goodie bags etc, make them seem frivolous and fluffy. If you want recipients to take your products seriously, present them professionally!
I think there is a place for sending out complete shade ranges to a few cherry picked bloggers. People like you and Ree, I see as the more informative and objective bloggers, so a post or 2 of full swatches from someone like the 2 of you is ok. But when you see 20 Clinique lipsticks going to every single blogger, and you know that they're only going to end up in one instagram post, it is too much.
I have no problem with bloggers selling samples, as long as the brands are happy. The accountant in me hopes they're paying tax on it all though!
Like you say, I think everything is just more visible now. I remember people kicking off recently about Benefit launching a mascara in the Maldives, but someone pointed out that the big beauty editors used to get perks like this all the time, it's just that it wasn't all over instagram. I have to say that I am put off buying the ridiculously extravagant gifty brands now. I'd much rather have a cheaper mascara than pay for influencers to go on 30+ press trips a year!
If I have a choice, I usually ask for the darkest, the lightest and my personal shade. Good point re accountancy! Yes, you're right.. there are legendary press trips when brands were reliant on print media – I did a few myself, but they were totally different because there was no Instagram to document them. So, they were much more 'professional' and about learning rather than about partying (although that entertainment element always existed). A lot of people felt the same way about the Benefit trip – it looked fantastic but it's one of the launches that made consumers suddenly question why they're paying so much for products. There's a happy medium I think.
That's such a good point about the tax implications.
I'm lucky enough to be of an age and situation where I have a nice discretionary budget for skin care etc. and I go out of my way to avoid launches that have spent tens of thousands of pounds shipping influencers to Ibiza, or whatever (Nars Climax mascara springs to mind). The consumer is literally being asked to fund those trips through their purchases, and I find it incredibly distasteful.
I'm also increasingly put off by how Gleam has fingers in so many pies. Influencers all promoting each other's absolutely egregious (and probably ghost-written) lifestyle books; Everybody suddenly switching from Cult Beauty to Space NK, from Deciem to *never mentioning Deciem*. I could go on. They think we're stupid.
I remember buying from Ebay a bottle of perfume(niche), the seller was a photographer and openly admitted that the beauty products he was selling had only been used in photo shoots for magazines and brand new.
There was a thread on Basenotes(perfume forum), recently about how an SA in the US had been sacked for giving very large decants to friends from the tester stock. Others mentioned in the US how SAs would give tester bottles free to customers if they bought from them. Here in the UK, this is not allowed and the companies insist part used tester bottles are destroyed.
I do know that certain brands when staff go training are given products free someone working for Annick Goutal was told to just take however many bottles she wanted. These in many cases do end up on Ebay.
SpaceNK used to keep a watch on Ebay for certain brands launching with them after staff training to see if they suddenly turned up on Ebay in large numbers.
This is such a complicated area and one that I've seen a lot of chatter about recently; I'm in two minds and can honestly see if from both perspectives. Many brands don't check that the samples are wanted or even relevant to the recipient, while others happily send 10 different foundations when you only really need one – although giving products away is an option for most, I can understand that a PR package with a potential value of £100s is tempting to sell if you're scraping by month on month.
My issue, however, is this: when you're recommending a product or hailing it as a must have, you can't publicly then sell it on because you don't want it. If it's easily visible, it's a trust thing. I see so many 'grammers sell clothes that are 'only worn once / still with tags' that they've been wearing all over Insta so they can attach an affiliate link; I see so many beauty bloggers selling on products they've been paid to promote, often before they're even available to buy. That's not okay.
Personally I give a LOT to a local food bank, to local charities and to friends – but often people don't want or accept a half used bottle or swatched lipstick, so what do we do with those? Chucking them away seems wasteful in an age of sustainability.
A French beauty blogger I know had a great idea. She regularly puts together items she was sent and does not use in a beauty box. The winner of the box has to make a donation to a charity of her/his choice in order to get the box. It does not solve every single problem you have underlined but I thought it was quite clever.
One of my housemates started a makeup blog and quickly became popular enough to get samples from all their favourite high end brands. It sounds ridiculous but by the end she didn't like having samples come because she couldn't enjoy the products in the same way that she could when she was a consumer. As a consumer you go to the counter, you look at everything, maybe speak to the SA, you choose your favourite and you buy it. By choosing it and buying it you give it value as the chosen one, and as the one which you invested in. When she got the whole collection, it was necessarily devalued. It also became a job as obviously these PRs send it to you as part of their job, therefore you are now inextricably linked to their work and have become by your acceptance, their contracted worker. In short, my housemate felt that knowing the PR and knowing that a bad review will unfairly be held against them, made her feel she couldn't be honest because she'd had tea with a PR and got along (most of the people she met were her age and they even had mutual friends sometimes!) This was a couple of years ago so maybe it's not the same but I'm sure it is! The result was: having to couch criticism carefully and having the pressure to herd the audience to buy. It was all enough to make her give it up and go back to buying her own products. She still blogs but for a while she couldn't even get back into it. I appreciate you shining a light on this but as you say, there isn't a solution. Ideally the bloggers would use their own money, but that's not going to happen when someone is being offered it for free. Jefree star is the only one who supposedly goes that route, but he's shady as I bet he gets all that Gucci for free to do their promo for them His last video with Shane Dawson, it was all Gucci. If he'd bought it I think he'd have got a mixture of designers. Just my opinion .
That's a real dilemma – being honest and impartial is what's actually useful to readers and keeps them coming because there are so few genuine reviews any more. I still buy product from time to time because it's important to be that consumer and remember the experience but I couldn't, at the rate I blog, buy everything. A lot of brands have gone from my site over the years – they won't send and why should they when there is a ready audience who will 'love it' rather than someone who will expose it. I just have to be clear to myself over and over that I'm writing for readers and not for brands – which ironically turns out to be the wrong sort of 'authentic' :-).
I wish that star pencil in the photo had been available when I was a teenager. What lippy are you wearing it looks good?
I have no problem with bloggers selling stuff that their given, better that than it ends up in landfill. However I would rather go without than buy second hand cosmetics. Is there really that big a market for this stuff?
Definitely a market for it. I can't remember what lipstick it is .. sorry.. was taken a while ago – the pencil is from Lottie London tho!
I started blogging over 10 years ago when it felt like it was more very black and white to sell PR samples, i.e. don't do it. The lines are much more blurred now, as more and more bloggers do it. I believe this is due to the rise of blogging as people's full time jobs rather than hobbies (it is very much still a hobby for me). I can understand if people are not making enough money to eat or pay their bills, and have no choice but to sell the products in order to make ends meet, but most bloggers who do it seem to do it out of greed instead of necessity.
I still personally think it's unethical, I'd much rather see people donate the products to shelters than sell it for profit. I've had conversations about this with some of the PR people I work closely with, and they also think it should be frowned upon, but acknowledge that there's nothing they can do to stop it. The people who most commonly sell their samples are bloggers that are "bigger name," likely because they get so many products to begin with that they cannot use, but the PR people have little choice to still send them products in hopes it'll get featured.
From a marketing perspective, I think samples being sold online is great. Especially if it's a new product. People get to try it at a discount then they may become a loyal buyer of that product in future.
If you are given something to write about, you create a piece and post, that transaction is then fulfilled. You have to question how rules can then be tied to that product.
I see no point in throwing away decent makeup. I also see no harm in attempting to make some money back especially when PRs actually compensating financially for the time it takes to curate blogs/articles is becoming far and fewer.
I remember a couple of years ago on instagram an up-and-coming beauty blogger who was at about the 10000-followers level was absolutely ripped apart when someone figured out he was selling free product on ebay. There were threads with hundreds of comments alleging he was a scammer, people claimed they were feeling betrayed and shocked. It was honestly like a feeding frenzy. Within a day his instagram was gone, his youtube account, his personal website, everything. I often think about it and wonder what made so many people lose perspective over what really wasn't so awful.
It's an interesting topic and as a simple consumer I've enjoyed reading the comments to gain an incite into how it works behind the scenes. It always niggles me that in the UK when I can spend £30 – £80 at a beauty counter e.g. Bobbi Brown the SA never offers any samples yet in the US they are given freely to customers. Don't they provide samples anymore to the bricks & mortar customer?
As a reader and blogger myself, I would be fine with influencers selling what they have clearly expressed a dislike for. If the foundation is too dark or the body lotion too scented for their sensitive skin, and they have told me that, upholding their promise of a feature to the brand, I see no issue with it. However, if I see a rave review on Monday and the same product on Depop on Wednesday, I'd lose a lot of trust!
As a beauty enthusiast who buys a lot of makeup at RRP, I'm grateful when greedy influencers sell their castoffs for half the price, especially if the product hasn't even released yet!
As a blogger myself I have to admit it is still a delicate subject. I personally very rare get PR and so I buy a lot of products for review purposes. I admit that after I post a review I try to cash back on some of the money that I invested by selling some makeup and reinvest it back in the blog by buying new products. For me is a way to minimize my looses but usually people will buy them if u make 75-90% discounts so u could barely call it a profit when u get 25£ for a palette that u just bought a few days before at Harrods for 100£. Usually the bloggers / influencers that get a lot of PR rarely buy anything with their own money so yeah if they sell is a profit but I still won't judge. Once that product has made its purpose, was blogged about / poested, filmed etc then I don't see a problem why you can't part with it. To be honest I would see the money from PR products going to charity or different charitable causes, giveaways or other ways to get back to your audience.
Selling PR products is a practice that's always been there for some and will continue to be.
I remember a beauty director of a prestigious International magazine for women that created a website to sell the products she was receiving in PR or from the beauty events she was invited. She was making a huge profit as many bloggers were buying newly launch products from her so they can re-post on thier blogs as they couldn't afford to pay the full price in store or the product would have been launched 1 month after and they wanted to be among the first to review it. All PRs knew about her practice but they never cross her off the list. She was still in business when I came to London :).
Thanks Tavia! I think it's up to each individual what they do – if you've bought it yourself its nobody's business but yours what you do with it afterwards.. reselling works for everyone in that respect. I think a good way around it might be for PRs to specifically say 'we would prefer that you did not sell product we send for personal profit – if you don't want to keep it, please return it.' Then we'd be clearer – and if something arrives without that indication it would be safe to assume that nobody minds if it is sold on. I've noticed that sample availability is becoming less – so the huge quantities being sent out might be diminishing.


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Q: How to properly write cross-references to external documentation with intersphinx? I'm trying to add cross-references to external API into my documentation but I'm facing three different behaviors.
I am using sphinx(1.3.1) with Python(2.7.3) and my intersphinx mapping is configured as:
{
'python': ('https://docs.python.org/2.7', None),
'numpy': ('http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/', None),
'cv2' : ('http://docs.opencv.org/2.4/', None),
'h5py' : ('http://docs.h5py.org/en/latest/', None)
}

I have no trouble writing a cross-reference to numpy API with :class:`numpy.ndarray` or :func:`numpy.array` which gives me, as expected, something like numpy.ndarray.
However, with h5py, the only way I can have a link generated is if I omit the module name. For example, :class:`Group` (or :class:`h5py:Group`) gives me Group but :class:`h5py.Group` fails to generate a link.
Finally, I cannot find a way to write a working cross-reference to OpenCV API, none of these seems to work:
:func:`cv2.convertScaleAbs`
:func:`cv2:cv2.convertScaleAbs`
:func:`cv2:convertScaleAbs`
:func:`convertScaleAbs`

How to properly write cross-references to external API, or configure intersphinx,  to have a generated link as in the numpy case?

A: An additional way to inspect the objects.inv file is with the sphobjinv module.
You can search local or even remote inventory files (with fuzzy matching). For instance with scipy:
$ sphobjinv suggest -t 90 -u https://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/objects.inv "signal.convolve2d"

Remote inventory found.

:py:function:`scipy.signal.convolve2d`
:std:doc:`generated/scipy.signal.convolve2d`

Note that you may need to use :py:func: and not :py:function: (I'd be happy to know why).

A: How to use OpenCV 2.4 (cv2) intersphinx
Inspired by @Gall's answer, I wanted to compare the contents of the OpenCV & numpy inventory files. I couldn't get sphinx.ext.intersphinx.fetch_inventory to work from ipython, but the following does work:
curl http://docs.opencv.org/2.4/objects.inv | tail -n +5 | zlib-flate -uncompress > cv2.inv
curl https://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/objects.inv | tail -n +5 | zlib-flate -uncompress > numpy.inv

numpy.inv has lines like this:
numpy.ndarray py:class 1 reference/generated/numpy.ndarray.html#$ -

whereas cv2.inv has lines like this:
cv2.imread ocv:pyfunction 1 modules/highgui/doc/reading_and_writing_images_and_video.html#$ -

So presumably you'd link to the OpenCV docs with :ocv:pyfunction:`cv2.imread` instead of :py:function:`cv2.imread`. Sphinx doesn't like it though:

WARNING: Unknown interpreted text role "ocv:pyfunction".

A bit of Googling revealed that the OpenCV project has its own "ocv" sphinx domain: https://github.com/opencv/opencv/blob/2.4/doc/ocv.py -- presumably because they need to document C, C++ and Python APIs all at the same time.
To use it, save ocv.py next to your Sphinx conf.py, and modify your conf.py:
sys.path.insert(0, os.path.abspath('.'))
import ocv
extensions = [
    'ocv',
]
intersphinx_mapping = {
    'cv2': ('http://docs.opencv.org/2.4/', None),
}

In your rst files you need to say :ocv:pyfunc:`cv2.imread` (not :ocv:pyfunction:).
Sphinx prints some warnings (unparseable C++ definition: u'cv2.imread') but the generated html documentation actually looks ok with a link to http://docs.opencv.org/2.4/modules/highgui/doc/reading_and_writing_images_and_video.html#cv2.imread. You can edit ocv.py and remove the line that prints that warning.

A: In addition to the detailed answer from @gall, I've discovered that intersphinx can also be run as a module:
python -m sphinx.ext.intersphinx 'http://python-eve.org/objects.inv'

This outputs nicely formatted info.  For reference: https://github.com/sphinx-doc/sphinx/blob/master/sphinx/ext/intersphinx.py#L390

A: I gave another try on trying to understand the content of an objects.inv file and hopefully this time I inspected numpy and h5py instead of only OpenCV's one.
How to read an intersphinx inventory file
Despite the fact that I couldn't find anything useful about reading the content of an object.inv file, it is actually very simple with the intersphinx module.
from sphinx.ext import intersphinx
import warnings

def fetch_inventory(uri):
    """Read a Sphinx inventory file into a dictionary."""
    class MockConfig(object):
        intersphinx_timeout = None  # type: int
        tls_verify = False

    class MockApp(object):
        srcdir = ''
        config = MockConfig()

        def warn(self, msg):
            warnings.warn(msg)

    return intersphinx.fetch_inventory(MockApp(), '', uri)

uri = 'http://docs.python.org/2.7/objects.inv'

# Read inventory into a dictionary
inv = fetch_inventory(uri)
# Or just print it
intersphinx.debug(['', uri])

File structure (numpy)
After inspecting numpy's one, you can see that keys are domains:
[u'np-c:function',
 u'std:label',
 u'c:member',
 u'np:classmethod',
 u'np:data',
 u'py:class',
 u'np-c:member',
 u'c:var',
 u'np:class',
 u'np:function',
 u'py:module',
 u'np-c:macro',
 u'np:exception',
 u'py:method',
 u'np:method',
 u'np-c:var',
 u'py:exception',
 u'np:staticmethod',
 u'py:staticmethod',
 u'c:type',
 u'np-c:type',
 u'c:macro',
 u'c:function',
 u'np:module',
 u'py:data',
 u'np:attribute',
 u'std:term',
 u'py:function',
 u'py:classmethod',
 u'py:attribute']

You can see how you can write your cross-reference when you look at the content of a specific domain. For example, py:class:
{u'numpy.DataSource': (u'NumPy',
  u'1.9',
  u'http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/reference/generated/numpy.DataSource.html#numpy.DataSource',
  u'-'),
 u'numpy.MachAr': (u'NumPy',
  u'1.9',
  u'http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/reference/generated/numpy.MachAr.html#numpy.MachAr',
  u'-'),
 u'numpy.broadcast': (u'NumPy',
  u'1.9',
  u'http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/reference/generated/numpy.broadcast.html#numpy.broadcast',
  u'-'),
  ...}

So here, :class:`numpy.DataSource` will work as expected.
h5py
In the case of h5py, the domains are:
[u'py:attribute', u'std:label', u'py:method', u'py:function', u'py:class']

and if you look at the py:class domain:
{u'AttributeManager': (u'h5py',
  u'2.5',
  u'http://docs.h5py.org/en/latest/high/attr.html#AttributeManager',
  u'-'),
 u'Dataset': (u'h5py',
  u'2.5',
  u'http://docs.h5py.org/en/latest/high/dataset.html#Dataset',
  u'-'),
 u'ExternalLink': (u'h5py',
  u'2.5',
  u'http://docs.h5py.org/en/latest/high/group.html#ExternalLink',
  u'-'),
 ...}

That's why I couldn't make it work as numpy references. So a good way to format them would be :class:`h5py:Dataset`.
OpenCV
OpenCV's inventory object seems malformed. Where I would expect to find domains there is actually 902 function signatures:
[u':',
 u'AdjusterAdapter::create(const',
 u'AdjusterAdapter::good()',
 u'AdjusterAdapter::tooFew(int',
 u'AdjusterAdapter::tooMany(int',
 u'Algorithm::create(const',
 u'Algorithm::getList(vector<string>&',
 u'Algorithm::name()',
 u'Algorithm::read(const',
 u'Algorithm::set(const'
 ...]

and if we take the first one's value:
{u'Ptr<AdjusterAdapter>': (u'OpenCV',
  u'2.4',
  u'http://docs.opencv.org/2.4/detectorType)',
  u'ocv:function 1 modules/features2d/doc/common_interfaces_of_feature_detectors.html#$ -')}

I'm pretty sure it is then impossible to write OpenCV cross-references with this file...
Conclusion
I thought intersphinx generated the objects.inv based on the content of the documentation project in an standard way, which seems not to be the case.
As a result, it seems that the proper way to write cross-references is API dependent and one should inspect a specific inventory object to actually see what's available.

A: The accepted answer no longer works in the new version (1.5.x) ...
import requests
import posixpath
from sphinx.ext.intersphinx import read_inventory

uri = 'http://docs.python.org/2.7/'

r = requests.get(uri + 'objects.inv', stream=True)
r.raise_for_status()

inv = read_inventory(r.raw, uri, posixpath.join)

A: Stubborn fool that I am, I used 2to3 and the Sphinx deprecated APIs chart to revive @david-röthlisberger's ocv.py-based answer so it'll work with Sphinx 2.3 on Python 3.5.
The fixed-up version is here:
https://gist.github.com/ssokolow/a230b27b7ea4a31f7fb40621e6461f9a
...and the quick version of what I did was:

*

*Run 2to3 -w ocv.py && rm ocv.py.bak

*Cycle back and forth between running Sphinx and renaming functions to their replacements in the chart. I believe these were the only changes I had to make on this step:

*

*Directive now has to be imported from docutils.parsers.rst

*Replace calls to l_(...) with calls to _(...) and remove the l_ import.

*Replace calls to env.warn with calls to log.warn where log = sphinx.util.logging.getLogger(__name__).

Then, you just pair it with this intersphinx definition and you get something still new enough to be relevant for most use cases:
'cv2': ('https://docs.opencv.org/3.0-last-rst/', None)

A: For convenience, I made a small extension for aliasing intersphinx cross references.  This is useful as sometimes the object inventory gets confused when an object from a submodule is imported from a package's __init__.py.
See also https://github.com/sphinx-doc/sphinx/issues/5603
###
# Workaround of
# Intersphinx references to objects imported at package level can"t be mapped.
#
# See https://github.com/sphinx-doc/sphinx/issues/5603

intersphinx_aliases = {
    ("py:class", "click.core.Group"):
        ("py:class", "click.Group"),
    ("py:class", "click.core.Command"):
        ("py:class", "click.Command"),
}

def add_intersphinx_aliases_to_inv(app):
    from sphinx.ext.intersphinx import InventoryAdapter
    inventories = InventoryAdapter(app.builder.env)

    for alias, target in app.config.intersphinx_aliases.items():
        alias_domain, alias_name = alias
        target_domain, target_name = target
        try:
            found = inventories.main_inventory[target_domain][target_name]
            try:
                inventories.main_inventory[alias_domain][alias_name] = found
            except KeyError:
                print("could not add to inv")
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A handy guide to ongoing ballot litigation in North Carolina
By Melissa Boughton
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The clock is ticking in North Carolina.
Five separate lawsuits have to be resolved before voters can cast their ballots, and there are only eight days left for the courts to render resolutions.
The State Board of Elections and Ethics Enforcement must begin the ballot preparation process by Sept. 1 to comply with federal absentee voting standards.
Tick, tock.
Lawmakers have already lost all four (though one was only a partial loss) of the state court cases against them and filed notices of appeal in each one to the state Court of Appeals. Similarly, the North Carolina NAACP partially lost one of those cases and also has filed a notice of appeal – though its was to the state Supreme Court.
Gov. Roy Cooper, another plaintiff in one of the state lawsuits, was the victor in his case over constitutional amendment ballot language, but has filed a request to have the state Supreme Court intervene in lawmakers' appeal before the Court of Appeals.
In another matter, the State Board on Wednesday lost a federal court case after members of the Constitution Party sued over not being on the ballot. Lawmakers have not yet intervened in that case, despite it being over a retroactive law they promulgated, not the State Board.
It was also reported Wednesday that House GOP members discussed possibly calling a special session, which would allow them to potentially bypass the appellate process in two of the state cases over constitutional amendments.
Things are moving fast, and each one of the five pending cases could change the final ballot that is put before the voters. Since the State Board is working with a strict deadline, it's not expected litigation will slow down.
Here's a guide on where each case currently stands (though, almost assuredly, there will be one or more a new documents filed shortly after publication):
Anglin v. State Board:
Chris Anglin
Chris Anglin waited until the last minute to throw his hat in the ring for a seat on the state Supreme Court as a Republican candidate, but he was first to file suit when lawmakers took that party label away from him.
Anglin is challenging Republican incumbent Barbara Jackson and Democratic civil rights attorney Anita Earls for a seat on the bench. He changed his party affiliation from Democratic to Republican on June 7 – less than a month before judicial candidate filing opened in North Carolina.
When lawmakers eliminated judicial primary elections this year, they also eliminated a requirement that candidates be registered with their party for 90 days prior to filing.
Not long afterward, Anglin changed his affiliation and filed as a Supreme Court candidate – per the rules at the time. Republican Party executive director Dallas Woodhouse, however, vowed to treat him "like the enemy he is." And not long after that, lawmakers called a special legislative session and passed a retroactive bill that resurrected the 90-day registration requirement.
Anglin, along with another judicial candidate affected by the change (more information on that case below), argued in court that lawmakers violated his constitutional rights, and a judge agreed.
Superior Court Judge Rebecca Holt issued a preliminary injunction in the case enjoining the State Board of Elections and Ethics Enforcement from printing any election ballots that do not reflect judicial candidates Anglin's and Rebecca Edwards' chosen party affiliations.
That injunction is still in place.
Lawmakers filed a notice of appeal shortly after the ruling but have not yet filed any other documents in the case. There have also not been any hearings set for appellate review.
Anglin's attorney, John Burns, said earlier this week he didn't know what the defendants were up to or why there has been a delay given the tight ballot deadline.
He speculated that the Court of Appeals would have the "next bite at the apple," and depending on what happens there, the state Supreme Court could get involved.
Burns said it would technically be possible for lawmakers to get their way if the lower court's injunction was lifted and there was a delay between in the appellate court review process.
"I just think it's important for people to know that if folks are trying to run out the clock, play four corners on this and test out their luck — that certainly is not justice, that's procedural status," he added.
Burns said he respects his opponent attorneys and wouldn't think that would be their tactic, but that he and his client are in waiting mode for their next move.
Anglin has filed a "conditional withdrawal" with the State Board, which means if he ultimately does lose the case in court, he will not appear on the ballot at all.
Recent filings:
Preliminary injunction
Edwards v. State Board:
Rebecca Edwards (Photo by Melissa Boughton)
Rebecca Edwards is a judicial candidate for Wake County District Court. She changed her Republican Party affiliation to Democratic on May 30 – which does not meet the revived 90-day registration requirement.
She filed a lawsuit shortly after Anglin also alleging that lawmakers violated her constitutional rights when they enacted a law that would retroactively affect her candidacy.
Narendra Ghosh, one of the attorneys representing Edwards, argued in court that once a candidate followed and relied on preexisting election rules during an election, those rules could not be changed. (Ghosh is a board member of the North Carolina Justice Center, the parent organization to NC Policy Watch.)
He also pointed out that other candidates in Edwards' race would appear on the ballot with party labels, almost ensuring a loss for her.
Martin Warf, an attorney representing lawmakers, argued that Anglin and Edwards did not have a vested constitutional right to run for office with their party labels.
Holt also issued a preliminary injunction in Edwards' case so that she could remain on the ballot as a Democrat.
Two other judicial candidates were affected by the retroactive 90-day requirement, but they did not sue the State Board or lawmakers. They are Michael John Stading, of Mecklenburg — he filed for seat 1 in District Court district 26A and changed his Democratic registration to Republican on May 29 – and Kevin Grist Eddinger, of Rowan — he filed for seat 1 in District Court district 19C and changed his Democratic registration to Unaffiliated on May 14.
After Edwards' win, Stading petitioned the State Board to also allow him to appear on the ballot with his chosen/registered party affiliation. The State Board agreed to treat Stading and Eddinger like Anglin and Edwards on the ballot, so long as the court allowed their party labels to remain.
Lawmakers have filed a notice of appeal in Edwards' case, but have not yet filed any other documents in the case. There have also not been any hearings set for appellate review.
State Board petition ruling
Cooper v. Berger, et al.:
Gov. Roy Cooper sued lawmakers and the State Board over the ballot language for two proposed constitutional amendments.
The amendments would transfer Cooper's appointment powers to the General Assembly for state boards and commissions and judicial vacancies. He alleged in the lawsuit that the ballot language was unconstitutionally misleading to voters.
Two members of a three-judge panel agreed, noting that both proposed amendments significantly realign Cooper's appointment powers but neither ballot question makes mention of the executive branch of government.
They issued a preliminary injunction Tuesday blocking the two amendments from proceeding to the ballot, but stated lawmakers could appeal or come back to Raleigh to redraft language addressing the issues so that they could be placed back on the ballot without the court's approval.
Lawmakers filed a notice of appeal Wednesday afternoon to the state Court of Appeals.
John Wester, one of Cooper's attorneys, said attorneys for lawmakers also plan to seek a stay of the lower court's order while they proceed with litigation.
He filed a request Wednesday to have the state Supreme Court intervene before the Court of Appeals gets involved. He pointed to the State Board's tight deadline as the reason for the request.
Request for Supreme Court review
NC NAACP and CAC v. Moore, et al.:
The North Carolina NAACP and Clean Air Carolina filed a lawsuit over the ballot language for four of the six constitutional amendments, also alleging they were misleading to voters.
In addition to the two amendments Cooper challenged, the organizations argued against language for the tax cap amendment and for the voter photo identification amendment.
The majority of the three-judge panel blocked the same two amendments they did in the Cooper case but rejected arguments about the other two amendments. They acknowledged that the ballot language for the two amendments might not be perfect but noted they weren't misleading enough to amount to a constitutional violation.
The judges rejected an argument put forth by the plaintiffs (the so-called "usurper argument") that the amendments are unconstitutional because the General Assembly was elected under unconstitutionally gerrymandered maps. The panel also ruled that Clean Air Carolina did not have standing to file suit.
The NAACP immediately appealed the panel's ruling allowing the two amendments to appear on the ballot to the state Supreme Court and also asked to bypass the state Court of Appeals.
Kym Hunter with the Southern Environmental Law Center (Photo by Melissa Boughton)
Kym Hunter, an attorney for the NAACP, said the ballot language was not just about a struggle for power between lawmakers and Cooper.
"These cases are about making sure that the North Carolina Constitution is not amended without the free will of all North Carolinians," she said. "At its base, our case is quite simple: only the people of North Carolina get to amend our most foundational law. Until we live in a representative democracy, that cannot happen. We are confident that the North Carolina Supreme Court will treat this matter with the seriousness it deserves."
Lawmakers filed a response to the NAACP's appeal asking the Supreme Court not to step in. It states that the three-judge panel erred in its decision to block two amendments from the ballot but not in its decision to let the other two proceed.
"There is no error, however, and moreover no need to even hastily review the superior court's judgment as to the tax cap amendment or voter identification amendments being pressed by the NAACP here," the document states.
The response also states that lawmakers plan to seek a stay of the preliminary injunction from the state Court of Appeals.
Legislative notice of appeal
NAACP appeal
Legislative response to appeal
Poindexter et al. v. Strach:
Four members of the newly recognized North Carolina Constitution Party and the party as a whole sued the State Board after it permitted the members to appear as candidates on the ballot but then removed them because of a retroactive law promulgated by the General Assembly.
They filed in federal court in the Eastern District of North Carolina.
The State Board officially recognized the Constitution Party in June, and until then, its candidates did not have ballot access. Prior to official recognition, North Carolinians also could not register for affiliation with the party.
Because of that, James Poindexter of Surry County and Jerry Jones of Greene County ran for election in the primary as Republican candidates and Gregory Holt of Craven County ran in the Democratic primary. They all lost.
After the Constitution Party was recognized and held its nominating convention, they submitted Poindexter, Jones and Holt as candidates to the State Board. They were accepted and certified. Lawmakers then passed a "sore loser" law preventing anyone who lost in a primary election from being on the ballot in November (Senate Bill 486).
The lawsuit alleges the Constitution Party members' constitutional rights were violated when they were retroactively stripped of their opportunity to run as candidates.
U.S. District Court Judge Louise Flanagan agreed and issued a preliminary injunction enjoining the State Board from printing ballots without their names.
The State Board has not yet appealed, and lawmakers have not intervened in the case. The State Board did, however, file a request for an extension of time to respond to the original complaint in the case.
Request for extension of time
The next step for all of these cases is appellate review. The question in most of the cases is whether the state Supreme Court will step in before the Court of Appeals, and the question in the federal case is whether there will be an appeal at all.
There isn't much that could stand in the way of the State Board ballot deadline, but Gerry Cohen, who served almost four decades as counsel to the General Assembly, said the State Board could split the ballots to get a quicker move on things – one ballot for the counties and one for constitutional amendments and appellate races.
He acknowledged it would be more expensive for the counties but said it would buy the State Board about an extra week of time for ballot preparation.
State Board spokesman Pat Gannon the board has not considered separating the ballots.
PrintElect, the group that prints the ballots for the state, did not return two requests for comment about the ballot preparation and printing process.
Another possibility Cohen brought up was court action after the ballots printed to not tabulate votes if some amendment language was struck down. He used the 2016 congressional ballot as an example of that – a court struck down districts after absentee voting began; the information stayed on the ballot and voters were informed their votes would not count; the State Board didn't tabulate the votes, and there were new primaries later that year.
"Nobody was harmed by the fact that I voted for congress and it didn't get counted," he added.
One other aspect to all the ballot language litigation is Republican Party executive director Dallas Woodhouse's threats to impeach Supreme Court justices if they removed constitutional amendments from the ballot.
He apparently made the remarks at a NC Free Enterprise Foundation event last week but then walked them back later on Facebook.
Douglas Keith
Douglas Keith, counsel with the Democracy Program at the Brennan Center for Justice, called the calls for impeachment particularly troubling.
"The research shows that reelection pressure … will change [judges'] behavior on the bench," he said.
He said judicial impeachment threats were a trend across the nation this year, and pointed to similar calls in Pennsylvania and Michigan. He also said those calls were met with public backlash.
"I would hope that if there is more talk of this in North Carolina there would be a similar response to what we've seen elsewhere," he said.
Keith said the willingness to call for impeachment in the state is just an extension of lawmakers' willingness over the past two years to exert political pressure on the courts. He added that it's difficult for sitting judges to put those kind of pressures out of their mind.
"The impact of pressures in the election context is clear, and I think that these threats would not be made if the officials did not think that they would have an impact," he said.
Melissa Boughton
Melissa Boughton worked as the Courts and Law Reporter at NC Policy Watch from 2016 to 2020.
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My image made from my twitter friends' profiles.
Over the Christmas holiday, I highlighted 30 of my many twitter relationships that moved to face-to-face relationships in 2011.
This is power of social media. Finding common ground through online conversations which lead to people helping people. Ultimately these relationships define our personal brand.
I encourage you to look through these tweets and get to know those you haven't met. I bet you'll be happy you did.
One request: Share a comment about someone we should meet in 2012.
#ff Starting my list of kind people that I'm thankful for their F2F friendships. Follow them, meet them and you'll be richer.
#ff @RandyClarktko He brings people together and simply asks, "What do you need and how can we help?" Good things happen.
#ff @ScLoHo Scott supports and politely challenges me to do better every time we meet. A very good listener.
#ff @HSchoegler Heather, for her sharing and kindness throughout the year. Thank you.
#ff Completely agree with @Kmullett about the think tank with @ajuliano and @craigdcrook . All have really helped me sharpen that brain.
#ff @markwschaefer He hails from TN. Met F2F in Bloomington. The best marketing mind at making sense of the traditional and digital world.
#ff @wireless987 I've known and appreciated Corbin for 7+ years. A steady rock. I need to make sure you meet him!
#ff @BuyNick Seamlessly moves online to F2F. New follow, "let's get a cup of coffee" Sales the way it should be. Genuine, helpful, not icky.
#ff @TechSavvyLender Chris is a servant leader. Reaches out by listening, sharing, helping. Check out his videos. Thank you Chris!
#ff @lawnboygreen Came to town last yr. Quietly & humbly built a strong lawn service business. Met Joe @ #IN_SM10. Proud to call him friend.
My Christmas #ff continues: Thank you @AarBrown for your support of @bbbsnei and creating @impact52. A good and generous man.
#ff @23skidooooo @ryanmfox Jen & Ryan: Smiles, style, good vinyl, craft beer & cares about the Fort. + she's been in the Rialto this month!
#ff @KitWessendorf The man of many voices. Thanks for listening and your help this year.
#ff @LeilanMcNally Sincere, more than caring – he does. Like 60 hrs straight SA bell ringing, I'm impressed every time we sit and talk.
#ff @papaslingshot Met this Purdue man in B'town 🙂 When he doesn't know something, he figures it out. Successful because he can change!
#ff @SarahVArnold A good, active listener. She's started teaching at Ivy Tech and loving it. Get to know her, you'll be better for it.
@ff @longsre @fredcannon @ajmotia Rick, Fred and Ashley. Good conversationalists. Friends. Subjects can range from pets to leadership.
#ff @BeTheLink Andrew = Love Thy Neighbor; 700+ times this year. He collaborates with and challenges networks. Walks the talk.
#ff @andersonjake Jake isn't talking about it, he's doing it in his security, low voltage business. Old, new ideas. Whatever works. Helpful.
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Don, as we've talked both Face to Face, online, in Fort Wayne, Indy, and places in between, I too have learned a tremendous amount from you.
As a natural introvert who pushes himself to be more outgoing, I have watched you make the steps and serve as a role model in my life too.
Thanks Scott. I appreciate the thoughts. We will keep pushing each other to make a difference. Do you think our Indy friends have a bet on the day we actually arrive in the same car?
Thanks Don, You continue to challenge and push me at the same time. You're also generous with your time – giving broadly (deep AND wide) to the community.


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These muffins have been made for selling at the Penshurst Farmers' Market on 3 June. If you are in the area, come along and taste before you buy!
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Dayton Memories > Dayton in the 60s and 70s
Dayton in the 60s and 70s
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JeffN
2:08 PM I've been away from Dayton since 1979, the year I graduated from Stebbins High School. It still feels like home. I have such fabulous memories of growing up on Spinning Road.
I just wondered if anyone out there would like to share memories, etc., of growing up in Dayton during this era.
Do you guys remember:
Dr. Creep
Parkmoor Chicken
BHA Means Better Home Appliances
Don Donoher
Don Wayne
Omar Williams
Steve Kirk
WTUE Top 40
Big Time Wrestling at Hara
The Dayton Gems.
Please add to the list! Thanks!
driver62
8:46 AM How about?:
Salem drive-in theater
North Star drive-in
Goldmans
Gold Circle
Best (not Best Buy)
Brawley's restaurant
Arther Treacher's fish and chips
Rax roast beef
Texaco and Gulf gas stations (none here now)
Davue party supply
Shakey's Pizza
I know there are many more but that's all I can think of at the moment.
9:59 AM I remember when Salem's Mall and Children's Palace were the places to shop WAY back in the late 60s. Now Salem Mall isn't even there?? Is that correct?
I also heard that the Marion's Pizza close to Dayton Mall Burned down. How sad ... all those cool photos of celebs who came in to do plays in the 70s. All gone.
Does anyone know if Marion's will rebuild?
Marck1957
11:05 AM My suggestions for the list of fond memories,
1) Gene "By Golly" Berry from WING
2) The "Man On The Street" report on WING
3) Suttmiller's
4) The Tropics Restaurant
5) Carl Casper's Auto Show at Wampler's Hara Arena
6) The Westward Ho Cafeteria
7) Henrici's Top Of The Mall Restaurant
8) Rike's Christmas Window and train display
9) "Keep Dayton America's Cleanest And Safest City" trash cans
10)The original Victoria Theater and the Palace Theater
11)Those ancient yellow City Transit electric trolleys and their 12 cent childrens fare, as well as the pullcord to ring the bell to get off the bus
12)The Arcade and all those smells there
Let's think of some more! Curt?
Last Edited by on Apr 12, 2007 8:29 AM
7:02 AM I remember Childrens Palace. I think it's now the Northwest hub for the RTA.
Yep, Salem Mall is gone except for Sears...it's still there. Several years ago, the part of the mall where Rikes was located was torn down and a Home Depot stands there now.
I don't know about Marions burning down. They still have one on north Dixie.
I remember Dr. Creep very well. In fact, he still does a few charity events. My oldest daughter had her pcture taken with him many years ago when he did a show at our church. She's 38 now. Time does fly.
3:23 PM Dr. Creep was fantastic. He has a very nice Web site, although it doesn't seem to be updated on a regular basis www.drcreep.com.
I loved going to Rike's at Christmas time. I'm glad they have the windows back up downtown during the holidays. It brings back a lot of memories.
I'm glad Marion's still has another location or two ... I hate it about the Dayton Mall restaurant. I love the "Dayton style" pizza (Marion's, Cassano's, Joe's).
Cassano's doesn't seem to have quite the same taste as it used to, although it's improved the past couple years.
Joe's is still the same! That place is nearly as old as I am (I'm 46).
9:35 AM Joe's Pizza is great! It's located on Airway Road, right before Airway turns into East 3rd Street headed toward downtown.
I grew up in that area, so I'm real familiar with it. Another decent place is Rick's Pizza on Spinning. I haven't had it in a LONG time though.
9:37 AM Hey Marck, those car shows at Hara were great!
How about the Kon Tiki theater on Salem?
Does anyone remember the little Diner on St. Clair. It was pretty big in the 80s ... I was already gone, but when I would come back for visits we would eat there.
8:05 AM I was also saddened to see that another one of my old haunts, the Page Manor Cinema has shut down. I remember that was a state of the art theater back in 1967 or 68 when it opened.
Also, for anyone from that neck of the woods (Spinning Road, Airway Road, etc.), does anyone remember the old Spin-Kemp Shoping Center with:
The Super Duper Grocery?
Houser's Drug Store?
Super Duper had a great bakery, and Houser's had a full old-fashioned fountain. I rode my bike there and bought many a pack of baseball cards!
Rick's Pizza is still located at the wide of that little shopping center.
9:17 AM The Diner on St Clair didn't last too long as a diner. I never ate there but I heard the prices were too high.
It was empty for quite a while but is now some kind of night club, I believe.
The Page Manor theater was closed for sometime and then reopened. It use to show the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" on Saturday nights. I believe the owners reason for closing was the employees kept stealing from him.
DougS
1:52 PM Hey! If you graduated from Stebbins do you rememeber John Hill? He was the shop teacher at Stebbins. John is a good friend of mine. My family was in Dayton (Oakwood) from 1957-1996. I graduated from Oakwood in 1962 and recall most of the places listed in this post. My dad worked at Delco Products downtown for 44 years. The building was torn down. I was in the NCR band and played at the NCR auditorium on South Main St. That building is gone too. Great memories.
5:56 AM Jeff,
You've been gone since 1979. I haven't lived there since 1968, but did return to visit my folks in Oakwood until 1996. My next trip there will probably be to go to my dear old(93) mother's burial in Wooland Cemetery. Mom graduated from Stivers. Dayton was a great town to do a lot of things, but those times are gone except in our minds. I sure do remember those "picture shows" at Lowe's (NOT the building supply store-LOL) and the Victory Theatre downtown. I don't know if the old Memorial Hall is still standing or not. My dad and I used to seine minnows at the Stewart Street bridge and then fish for crappies off of the big cement bridge over the Stillwater River at Island Park at Riverside drive. A person would go to jail for that today!(LOL)
"Mr. Hill" lives in Beavercreek. He has MS and retired quite a few years ago, but he gets around pretty well.
6:59 AM Memorial Hall is still standing but not much goes on there anymore. Most everything happens at the Schuster Center which stands where Rikes use to be at Second and Main.
10:23 AM Doug's comments on fishing off of the Helena Street Bridge at Island Park brought back some fond memories! My father would take us to that playground on weekends to play. Does anyone remember the big red firetruck that you could play on there? Or the old airplane you could climb in and around on? Boy, you wouldn't see that in a playground these days! I also remember that there were multiple water fountains all around the flagpole there. I think at one point in time they all ran water all of the time. The bandshell, which still stands, was a wonderful place to spend a summer evening at.
Another memory...The Uncle Orrie (sp?) Show, on channel 7, I think. All those hyper little kids singing the "BHA means better home appliances" jingle! I wonder what ever happened to him?
12:11 PM I remember the fire truck at Island Park but not the airplane. It's not exactly a safe place to go anymore with the infamous Parkside Homes right down the street.
At least, there are plans to tear down Parkside. That shoud help the neighborhood a little.
8:26 AM Island Park is on Helena between Riverside and Stanley Avenue. It's where the bandshell is located. Kettering Fields (softball) are right up and across the street.
Actually, Kettering Fields is on the location of the old McCook Field.
6:25 PM Here's a few more things about Dayton in years past.
Miracle Lane shopping center on Salem - nothing there now but grass. All buildings have been torn down.
Miami Hardware on Salem - whatever you needed, they had it. Building has been torn down and is now a parking lot.
Stumps supermarkets - there were two stores, one on Salem and one on Shoup Mill. The Salem store has some type of business in it (have no idea what it is) and the Shoup Mill store is a Super Petz or Petsmart.
Frigidaire Park on Shoup Mill - long gone and a mini industrial park is on part of the land. The rest is empty.
North Star drive-in theater - now a shopping center.
Salem Drive-in theater - part of the land is a shopping center. The rest is empty.
Stengers Ford on South Dixie - now a Super Walmart.
Sears downtown store - torn down and a office building stands there.
Elder-Beerman downtown - now being used for office space, I think.
The last movie theater downtown, other than the Victoria, was the Loews on Main street, I think. It's now a parking lot.
Some things don't change though. McAllisters Art Supply is still at Salem and Superior.
The Arbys with the big hat is still on Salem.
Ray's Pharmacy is still at Catalpa and Fairview.
Hara Arena is still hangng around.
I know there's more but that's all I can remember at the moment.
10:26 AM There's also a "big hat" Arby's on Airway. I remember when it opened ... m ust have been early 70s or there abouts.
Is there still a hockey team in Dayton? Hara Arena was a great place to watch concerts, wrestling and hockey back in the 70s. Most everything has been moved to the Nutter Center now ... that that correct?
11:31 AM Yep. Dayton still has a hockey team. They're called the Dayton Bombers and they're in the playoffs. They won the first two games.
They do play at the Nutter Center. Not too much goes on at Hara anymore except for the annual gun and knife show and a few concerts every now and then.
Dayton also has a minor league baseball team, the Dragons, a class "A" farm club of the Reds. The stadium is very nice and seats around 8000. They've sold out every game since it opened five or so years ago.
Last Edited by on Apr 17, 2007 11:32 AM
12:21 PM Yeah, I almost got tickets to the Reds-Marlins exhibition game that was played in Dayton earlier this month. I want to see a dragons game ... I've heard it's a real hot ticket.
I'm glad Dayton still has hockey. Do the Bombers draw well?
The Gems were pretty good there for a run in the 70s. I remmeber my favorite player was Sid Garant. They called them the Baby Bruins because they were affiliated with the Boston franchise.
Is Don Donoher still around? He was a very underrated basketball coach, in my opinion.
8:21 PM I think Donoher was the coach when Dayton played UCLA in the 1967 NCAA finals ... maybe several years before then. He's been around quite a while.
6:14 PM Wow, what a great trip down memory lane. Great calls on all of these things.
I loved Davue Party Supply (where I used to buy Wacky Packages) Stumps Grocery Store (the barber there used to have baby powder in plastic ketchup and mustard bottles), and Island Park (The fire truck was a kid's playground dream).
Here are some additions:
Clubhouse 22 with Duffy the Dog: Does anyone remember the 'carnival kits' sold on this TV show, to benefit muscular distrophy?
Sherrer's Ice Cream: Sort of a poor-man's Graeter's back in the day.
Peaches Records: I remember buying a lot of vinyl there and storing them in the signature Peaches crates.
Dingleberry's: The other place that got my music business. I think the only one left now is in Yellow Springs.
Red Barn: Don't remember much about the grub at this fast food joint, but do remember a kids meal that came with a 45RPM record. It would play one of 3 songs at random. The slogan was "Only the needle knows".
Bookie Parlor: I used to spend my lawn-mowing and snow-shoveling money on the comics at this place. The owner, Hal, was a great character. The building on Wayne Avenue - I think - is now a small Army recruiting center.
Funway Freeway: Before the video game craze, this place was an awesome conglomeration of pinball machines. I could spend the whole day there. There was one at the Salem Mall and one at Town & Country.
Kettering Village Inn: A cool little family-owned Italian joint with good deals and decent food (not as good as Dominic's). Their old lot became the site of a Bruegger's Bagels and is now Chipotle, I think.
Woody's Market: Nice old-fashioned grocery store with special items around the holidays (I remember pickled pigs feet for July 4th).
NCR Park: I loved the giant pool and slides at this place.
Yankee Tavern: One of the old-fashioned fancy restaurants to take your date before the school dance.
9:17 AM I remember the Kettering Village Inn ... they had great pizza. I've also been to the Bookie Parlor. Did anyone buy comics, etc., at the Dragon's Lair on 5th Street? It was open until just a year or so ago maybe.
In my neck of the woods, at the Spin-Kemp Shopping Center, we had a Super Duper Grocery with the best bakery ... great donuts and fresh-baked Italian bread. We used to go buy a loaf for a dime or something ridiculous! LOL
We also had Houser's Pharmacy. I bought a whole lot of baseball cards there. And they had an old-fashioned fountain with great food and milk shakes.
Those were the days!
9:22 AM Grommet ... the thing I remember about Red Barn is they had the best onion rings. I've always had a taste for stuff not good for me!! LOL
Do you guys remember Sandy's ... I think sometime in the early 70s they went from Sandy's to Hardee's. When I was a kid I preferred Sandy's to McDonald's. Gret burgers and fries, or at least it seemed like it at the time.
I also enjoy visiting the Esther Price Candy Store at the Airway Shopping Center ... it's one thing that hasn't changed since I was young. They've been at the same location since 1965 or '66 and it's still going strong!
1:49 PM Driver62 - I had no idea Sherrer's was still around. Where is it located?
JeffN – I did go to the Dragon's Lair a few times back in the late 70's/early 80's. Even though I mostly went to the Bookie Parlor, I liked to check out Dragon's Lair and Second Time Around for old comics every once in a while. I didn't realize that the Lair was around as recently as a couple years ago. I'm sure I had the onion rings at Red Barn, but I must have been so young that I now don't remember. One of the Red Barn buildings is still there, I think - now a beer drive-through on Smithville, I think. Sandy's sounds vaguely familiar, but I can't say for sure that I've been there. I definitely remember the Esther Price store! One Dayton eatery that has been there as far as I can remember is Milano's. It's not the same old building now, as you probably know, but the subs are still great. The know how to do Italian Beef right.
3:20 PM Sherrer's is on north Main St. right past Nottingham Road and across from Forest Park shopping center. They still call Forest Park a shopping center although there's only 2-3 open stores there.
6:58 AM The Red Barn I ate at was on Woodman, close to where the old Gold Circle used to be. Old landmarks, LOL!
5:54 AM LOL @ Grommet. We used to make a special trip to Woody's at West Carrollton for pigs feet. From the posts on this thread it sounds like we all liked to eat!(LOL) I went to E.J. Brown Elementary School in Dayton View. It had two huge stairways on both sides of the foyer that lead up to the second floor. I recall playing marbles in the playground beside the building was THE thing to do on recess. I remember a "picture show" on north main (south of Fairview Avenue) that had a bowling alley below it. Can't recall the names of either one, but "The 19th hole" rings a bell. This goes back into the 50's but does anyone remember Cosler's Drug Store on north main(south of Fairview Avenue)? That was where us kids got ice cream and I first "stole" anything....a pack of gum. My sister caught me and told my dad who gave me "the belt."(LOL) That's considered "abuse" nowadays, but back then it was just "consequences."(LOL)
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9:31 AM I can remember walking to Page Manor to register for school when I was little. I used to play baseball at a field right behind the school ... I don't think it's even there now.
I had some great times in that neighborhood!
I'm actually going to be in Dayton early this week. I'm looking forward to a visit!
I remember when Beavercreek was rural ... it's so grown-uo now! My wife and I love the new mall.
Mike C
2:33 PM Uncle Orrie was a great show. Furdie Fusbudget, Reggie Smyth etc. Lots of good memories. Smitties Toy store was on Wayne Ave. Now it's on Wilmington Ave with the same older guys working in there.
Jim Quinn at WING
Big D at WING
Walter the Friendly Poet on the Steve Kirk Show ( wish I could get some of those short stories Walter would saw)
Who was the young girl that had a TV show on WKEF in the afternoons? She was a teenager and had a cartoon show ( I think) that played weekdays when WKEF was first on. Then Joe Smith , Duffy the Dog, Malcum McCloud, Jo Cory came next.
Red Barn, loved that place. They had great fried chicken. Well Parkmoor had the best "Dixie Fried Chicken". Red Barn was a hamburger/fry type thing going on. There was a Red Barn at Woodman and Rainer. That is the one I went to but there were a few more around town.
Sandy's was a so-so restaurant. I think it had a Scottish type logo also. The Sandy's on Linden ave changed and became a DR's office.
Burger Chef. It was close to Belmont HS ( my old HS) and the thing was to skip out and go there for lunch. The Dayton Police Office Mosconi would watch you to make sure you didn't speed or throw out your trash. There was one
Woods carryout in Belmont area was the place kids would go and steal cheap bottles of liquor.
Grommet, Sherrer's is at 4425 N. Main Street across from Forest Park Shopping Center , or what is left of Forest Park. I remember Forest Park had some sort of amusement park and putt putt center in it a long time ago. Then remember "The She" at the back of the back of Forest Park Shopping Center?
Frisch's on Keowee (Big Boy and onion rings, cherry coke)? Country Kitchen ( Country Boy sandwich and onion rings) on Wilmington Pike? Both great crusin' stops.
A& W Root Beer Stand on Woodman ( now called The Root Beer Stand- original owners son of A&W root beer owns it now.
7:30 AM The She nite club in Forest Park. I had forgotten all about that since it closed many years ago. There was another club there called Tiffanys but it's been gone for several years. Back in the 70's, there was a J C Penny store there but it closed when they built a new store at the Salem Mall. Of course, the mall's gone now too.
There's not much in Forest Park anymore but there is a lot of construction going on. I have no idea what they're building but the lot is all torn up and there's a lot of heavy construction equipment there.
I didn't know the Root Beer Stand was still in business. Do they still offer curb service? They have the best root beer.
12:05 PM Mike C ... I remember the shoe store, but cannot recall the name of it to save me.
I, too, remember going to shop every week at the Super Duper. The place smelled so good ... fresh donuts and Italian bread loaves.
It's weird ... I just visited Dayton this week and actually went in the Thrift store there where Super Duper used to be. It was strange trying to think of things as it used to be. I remember the bakery being to the left as you walked in.
Houser's was the best. I bought all my comics and baseball cards there, too. I also loved the fountain. We always ordered shakes and fries. I always wondered what happened to the Houser family. I remember Mr. Houser's daughter used to run the fountain area.
Do you remember the Church's Chicken that used to sit at the end of Spin-Kemp Shopping Center? I think it's a run-down Mexican eatery now.
Rick's Pizza keeps hanging on though! I didn't eat there, however. I did eat at Joe's on Airway ... still one of the best pizza joints in Dayton.
10:13 AM Alma ... yep, Roderer's sounds right! I could not think of that at all. I can't believe Rick's Pizza is still open in that little shopping center after all these years and all those changes. I drove past there last week and could see the soft pretzels they still sell. Unreal.
10:33 AM If anyone's interested, the two "older guys" at Smitty's on Wilmington Pike are Don and Gene Smith. In my mind, they will always be as I remeber them growing up in the 70's. Both are the sons of the original "Smitty", Wilbur Smith, who started the business way back when. Smitty's is one of the last of the original "mom and pop" hobby/toy shops left. You can thank Walmart, Target, and the like for putting these great memories of our past out of business. Don and Gene are two of the nicest people you could ever meet, and to me are typical of true Daytonians and personify everything that was good about growing up in Dayton in the 60's and 70's.
Another such great place was the (original) Tin Soldier in the center at Whipp Rd. and Rte. 48 in Centerville. Started by Duke Seifried (who later went on to work with E. Gary Gygax of Dungeons and Dragons fame), it was later owned by Jim and Bonnie Begley. They specialized in board games, wargames, model kits, and hobby stuff. I don't know what it is about hobby people in Dayton, but Jim and Bonnie were great people that gave a lot back to the community.
BTW- on another subject-does anyone have any before and after photos of Woody's Market in West Carrollton-before demo and after demo, that is. I would appreciate any leads or links anyone might have. Thanks in advance!
Last Edited by on May 30, 2007 10:43 AM
8:05 PM JeffN
I do remember the Church's Chicken. I use to live in Coach and Four apartments and would get food there. It changed to a Chinese restaurant for a while then a Mexican restaurant briefly then closed and now it is another Mexican restaurant. It looks pretty nasty from outside. I doubt if I get a meal there.
They had a Irish dance school next to the Thrift Store for a while.
McGuffy's has been there at the end of the shopping center. It was there for a long time and closed and re-opened as some sort of Roadhouse Steakhouse something. That closed and now back to McGuffy's.
There's LA Video there too. Not sure how that place stays open. Of course I think they have an Adult section so that is probably a constant $$ revenue. The rest of the video stores seems to have gotten rid of their Adult rooms.
Rick's Pizza has been a staple for years and years.
How about "The Astronaut Village" laundrymat? Remember that name? I know it wasn't at that shopping center but was at the Rike's Kettering Shopping Center.
8:34 AM I do remember the Astronaut Village ... I had a friend whose aunt worked at Rike's and we'd go there a lot.
When I was in town last month, the LA Video store was shutting down. They were in the process of selling everything.
I wish that shopping center could be restored, but we'll never see it again when it had the likes of Super Duper, Houser's, etc. I think there was an department-type store at the end of it when I was little, too. Maybe Throckmorton's?? Does that ring a bell?
6:43 PM I was looking for Flying Pizza and Joe's Pizza when I ran into this thread. What a great site and memories. Moved to Columbus back in 88 and was looking for Pizza menus for my sons grad party at Grandma's house. Found the menu's.
I remember most of what the post was talking about the Houser's Drug store with the big fish tank. The Super Duper with the Tube Tester in the entry way to the store.
The festival is this weekend!!!!
dfields
12:07 AM wow!!! talk about a flood of memories as I read all these post...
I grew up in overlook. went to overlook school and went to spinning hills jr. high the first year it opened. grad of stebbins 1974. moved to ky a week after graduation. mom worked at j.c. penny's in airway shopping center and dad and I would sometimes meet her for lunch at the kressge (?) store lunch counter. my brother now lives in overlook and my old stomping grounds sure have changed. I remember burger chef, sandy's, hasty tasty and parkmore very well. last time I was up there my brother got a pizza from joe's and my wife and kids loved it! did anyone else ever swim at the little pool at orville wright school?
4:59 PM dfields ... I used to play baseball at the old Overlook field, for the Overlook Jets. A lot of my friends lived there. I moved to Kentucky after graduation, too. Been here ever since ... but Dayton is still home.
4:58 PM I introduced my 6-year-old son to Dayton on Wednesday. I gave him the tour ... showed him my old schools (which have all been renovated or replaced), we ate Cassano's Pizza, walked down Spinning Road (the street I played on during my youth), told him about his grandparents, who he didn't get to meet, played at Shellabarger Park and capped it all off with a Reds' game that night. It was a blast!
pink_peony_lady
11:36 PM re: E.J. Brown elementary school. I went there too. I'm sad to say the school has been torn down. Does anyone remember Jandy's Toy Store located on North Main Street and Hudson Avenue? A few squares down from Jandy's stood Kalt's Rexall drug store. What a great place for a teenage girl to buy lip gloss! Does anybody remember Forest Park Plaza? I think somebody was posting about a theater, pizza place, and bowling alley located near Elder-Beerman N.W. on Seibenthaler Avenue. Was that restaurant called the Village Inn? Joe's Pizzeria and Marion's Pizza are still the hometown el primo for the Dayton crowd!
5:59 AM The restuarant was called the Village Inn if I recall correctly. Back in the 70's, it was a pizza place. The building is still there but it's some kind of church now.
The bowling alley, Bowlero, is still there and going strong.
The movie theater closed quite a few years ago but the building still stands. It's been for sale for years.
Forest Park Plaza is still there but only has a few stores in it. It's mostly deserted now. There is a lot of construction going on there but I have no idea what the plans are for the place. Maybe I'll ask one of the construction workers the next time I'm down there.
Last Edited by on Jun 15, 2007 6:02 AM
12:42 PM I also went TO E.J. Brown School, in the middle Sixties. Does anyone remember the "fallout shelter" in the basement of the school? Ha! Like we would go into the basement and survive a nuclear war! How niave we were. There were barrels of water and rations of some sort. I also remember a candy store, but the one I remember was on Parkview and North Main Streets. We would go there after school to buy penny candy. On Fridays there was popcorn for sale for a nickel at the school at the end of the day.
Forest Park has mostly been demolished and what little there is left is now mostly empty. They are working to put an industrial park/office buildings development there. But, they have had so many plans to redevelop that place, and so litlle has ever come to fruitation, that I'll believe it when I see it! For those with long ago memories, it was an auto racetrack and an amusement park there long ago, called "Frankie's Forest Park". It then became Forest Park Shopping Center. There was a huge Krogers there, by standards of that long ago time, and I remember a shoe store there that had an X-ray machine to measure shoe size! You would stand on it, it would pass X-rays through your feet, and you would be able to see it on a screen! I suppose we'll die of foot cancer due to this (just kidding)! There was a Top Value Stamp showroom there also, as well as a Firestone Tire store where we bought yearly Christmas records that the Firestone company issued every year. I think there was a Kresge's and a J.C.Penney store there also. The Salem Mall was built in the late Sixties, and that made an outdoor shopping center like Forest Park obsolete, and it has been downhill for the place ever since. Still, I've many fond memories of the place.
Last Edited by on Jun 15, 2007 12:45 PM
1:13 PM I remember Village Inn back in the 70s. Me and my friends would there before the wrestling matches at Hara. It was good, as I recall.
8:19 PM Thanks for answering everyone; especially Marck1957. I attened E.J. Brown in the sixties too, but don't remember a fall out shelter. Sorry. I think you might be talking about a little store on the corner of North Main Street & Parkwood Drive. I want to say it was called Community Market. There was a coin-op laundry mat and KFC across the street from it. The greater Dayton area really needs a dedicated family friendly area with a movie theater and a Discovery Zone for kids. Page Manor could offer a great theatre for Disney flicks, and it would be nice if there were some of the good old movies of yesteryear. It would be great if Friday or Saturday night was designated teen night and show films for that age group. It would be so nice to bring some of the past back to the greater Dayton area, but unfortantely, I don't have the entrepreneurial experience to do it. Perhaps, the right people will become inspired and toy with the idea.
2:33 PM You're right about Salem Avenue and the Trotwood area. Some of the places that are gone are Miami Hardware, Anticolli's, Miracle Lane shopping center, Stump's market, the Jeep dealership, K-Mart, Red Lobster (it's a funeral home now), Kon-Tiki theater, Toys R Us, Salem Mall, Tom Harrigan Olds, Gold Circle, Woolohan Lumber, Builders Square and others that I can't remember right off.
Many of the stores closed because of lack of sales and robberies. Also, some like Miami Hardware got squeezed out by Lowe's and Home Depot.
I live off Salem and Otterbein and there's not even a gas station within a mile or two of me. I drive to Main and Shiloh Springs for gas.
Other than Good Sam hospital, about all that's left on Salem are convienence stores, fast food places and drug stores.
Last Edited by on Jun 19, 2007 2:35 PM
9:23 AM That's sad, driver. My aunt lived in Trotwood ... we used to go to Salem Mall and Children's Palace .... there was a Parkmoor as you headed toward her house. Everything was really nice back then.
9:23 AM Does anyone recall a Gallagher's Drug Store, maybe on West 2nd Street or in that vicinity, in the 1950s? I think the owner's name was Earl. My mother, Georgia Neal, worked there for a few years.
Can anyone help me out?
12:27 PM Hey folks, this is my first time to this site. Brings back alot of memories. I grew up mostly in the West Carrollton area. Someone asked about Woody's. I remember, in the middle 60's, just as the interstate was going through, going there for groceries. They had those huge silver cash registers. My sisters and I always wanted to go by the deli, where Sausages hung over the counter. The restaraunt opened sometime in the late 60's. It was such a big deal for us kids to watch the traffic going underneath on Dixie Dr. There was a huge fountain downstairs by the check outs. The restraunts fried chicken was the best.
That whole area really changed during the late sixties, with the opening of the Dayton Mall. I remember as a little kid driving down 741 when it was just a little, two lane, country road. There was a drive-in between 741 and the interstate, but I can't remember the name of it. It's been gone for, I think, about 15 years.
Enjoyed the postings, and reminiscing on this site, and I'll check back periodically. Chris
8:11 AM I believe the drive-in you are talking about was the Southland 75. It's a shopping center now.


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This is my adaptation of Dave Higton's spam deleting e-mail fetcher.
The current version is 1.67.1 (05-02-2019 - 410K)
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SHA256: 3f7d2dddd96d57f23155d08e4420647baf5501634ccbcd2a4fc86ba651e9d677
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Look here for a list of changes.
AntiSpam is an application for deleting unwanted e-mail (a.k.a. spam). It can check your POP3 mailboxes and identify spam by looking at the headers of the messages. You can let it download the messages that aren't spam at the same time (preferred) or make it start another fetcher such as POPstar after it has deleted the spam.
This is a RISC OS program. It should run on any version of the operating system from 3.10.
To run AntiSpam you need SysLog and having StrongHelp on your machine is strongly recommended. If you have RISC OS Select, Adjust or Six, you already have SysLog. Otherwise you may need to pick up a version from Tom Hughes' website. The most recent version of StrongHelp can be found here.
This program is © Dave Higton & Frank de Bruijn, while some parts are by Jeremy Nicoll and Martin Avison. It is released under the Free Software Foundation's GNU General Public License (GPL).
If something doesn't work as expected, please report it on the FreeLists mailing list.
The authors accept no responsibility whatsoever for any loss or damage caused by use of or inability to use this software. In particular, users or potential users should be aware that this program can be expected to delete e-mails from a server. This is its purpose. If you do not wish e-mails to be deleted, DO NOT USE THIS APPLICATION!
Several people have written utilities or instructions for use with AntiSpam. These were written with the original version of AntiSpam in mind and may not work with mine. The following ones have been checked and should be ok.
Rosemary Miskin has created a utility called RuleSort and written instructions for integrating AntiSpam with Voyager.
User Tests
AntiSpam uses a script with rules to decide whether a message is spam or not. Sometimes you'll be faced with messages that cannot be caught by any rule you can create. If you know how to program in BASIC, you can add your own code to deal with that (see the StrongHelp manual for details). If you want other people to benefit from your work, you can send me your User Tests (check the StrongHelp manual for the address, please) and I'll put them on this page, like these:
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alternate_letters To handle things like t.h.i.s i.s y.o.u.r l.i.f.e. By Harriet Bazley.
capitals To catch headers with mostly capitals. By Harriet Bazley.
datespace In case multiple spaces are used to line up headers. By Harriet Bazley.
domain/username For spam with usernames in From headers that equal domain names in Message-ID headers. By Harriet Bazley.
domaincaps Will catch domainnames in all capitals in From headers. By Harriet Bazley.
littlespammed To accept certain messages by username. By Harriet Bazley.
manydigits For messages with too many digits in certain headers. By Harriet Bazley.
repeatedfirstletter To catch things like 'arty artz artzt aruba'. By Harriet Bazley.
threedots If a header contains at least three dots. By Harriet Bazley.
trailingspace For headers that contain trailing spaces. By Harriet Bazley.
twowords A set of three rules - to be used together - to catch two-word spam. By Harriet Bazley.
viagra A viagra test, concentrating on the 'gra' bit. By Harriet Bazley.
weirdinitials For messages with 'weird' initials. By Harriet Bazley.
zeroO The letter O replaced by the number 0. By Harriet Bazley.
support Supporting code required by (some of) the above.
the lot All the above in one zip.
Using the tests
Most of the above have some descriptive text in the BASIC file inside the zip. The actual program code in each file is the section starting after the first blank line end ending before the first 'equals/dash'-line or the end of the file, whichever comes first.
The easiest way to add a test to the main UserTests file is loading that file in an editor like StrongED, placing the cursor at the end and dropping the new file (or all of them) in. You can edit out the headers and descriptions, but that isn't strictly necessary (although it will of course make the UserTests file smaller and easier on the eyes...). Alternatively, you can just cut/copy and paste the required bits from the new file to the UserTests file.
Be aware that some of the tests require you to make manual changes to other parts of the UserTests file. I.e. reading the descriptions first rather than just running the lot makes sense.
Strange format
In case you're wondering about the peculiar format of the files in the zips: the current version of AntiSpam has a 'User Test installer'. Don't panic! Manual installation using cut and paste will always remain possible...