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The Worst Person in the World (2021)
Directed by Joachim Trier
4.75/5 from 6 ratings (rate this movie on Facebook or Discord with `!rate The Worst Person in the World (2021) X.X/5`)
Renate Reinsve as Julie • Anders Danielsen Lie as Aksel • Herbert Nordrum as Eivind • Maria Grazia Di Meo as Sunniva • Hans Olav Brenner as Ole Magnus • Marianne Krogh as Eva • Helene Bjørnebye as Karianne • Vidar Sandem as Per Harald
The chronicles of four years in the life of Julie, a young woman who navigates the troubled waters of her love life and struggles to find her career path, leading her to take a realistic look at who she really is..........
Denmark • France • Norway • Sweden • Drama • Comedy • Romance
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1. You've been through the epidermis, derma and muscles.
2. Julie disappointed herself. This used to be easy.
3. She was still among the top students,
4. but there were too many
5. interruptions, updates,
6. feeds,
7. unsolvable global problems.
8. She sensed
9. a gnawing unease she had tried to suppress by cramming
10. by drowning it in digital interference.
11. This was wrong. This wasn't her.
12. She'd chosen medicine
13. because it was so hard to gain admission.
14. Where her excellent grades actually meant something.
15. But then she had a revelation.
16. Her passion had always been the soul.
17. The mind, not the body.
18. Surgery is like, so concrete.
19. It's almost like being a carpenter.
20. But now...
21. My passion has always been what goes on inside — thoughts and feelings.
22. It was like a window had opened.
23. Not anatomy.
24. If psychology will make you happy, then do it.
25. I think you're really brave.
26. I can't take it anymore. I don't want to.
27. She left him.
28. Though he was devastated,
29. he had to respect the way she took control of her life.
30. She observed her fellow students.
31. Norway's future spiritual advisers.
32. Mostly girls with borderline eating disorders.
33. Say you're at a party.
34. She still felt trapped in the role of model student.
35. All this cramming.
36. When was life supposed to start?
37. What's your name?
38. Julie.
39. The person's name is Julie.
40. Let's say Julie and I meet at a party,
41. and we feel a mutual attraction.
42. Hypothetically.
43. Actually, she was a visual person.
44. Now I know.
45. I want to be a photographer.
46. A photographer?
47. I see.
48. Julie spent her student loan on cameras and lenses.
49. As long as you're serious about it.
50. No safety net. No holding back.
51. Need help?
52. She took a temp job in a bookstore.
53. Started a photography course.
54. Super!
55. She made new friends.
56. It felt like coming home.
57. Suddenly Oslo was a different city.
58. New places. New faces.
59. Hi. Aksel.
60. Right...
61. You're the comic book artist?
62. She'd heard he was the creator of Bobcat.
63. Sorry, I'm a wild animal.
64. Have you read it?
66. So?
67. She pretended she'd read it.
68. She only remembered one strip she'd found vaguely sexist.
69. I know what you mean.
70. Nothing's ever good enough.
71. The only thing worse than all the idiots is yourself.
72. But...
73. If we go on, I'll fall in love with you. Then it'll be too late.
74. Maybe we should agree to...
75. stop seeing each other.
76. The problem is our age difference.
77. I'm just afraid we'll fall into a vicious circle.
78. You're much younger than I am.
79. You'll start to question who you are.
80. I'm past 40. I've entered a new phase.
81. Whereas you still need time to find yourself.
82. You don't need me waiting.
83. You need to be completely free.
84. I'm just afraid we'll hurt each other.
85. Later she said that was the precise moment
86. she fell in love with him.
87. Shall I put your bag in the bedroom?
88. Yes, please.
89. I have two copies of a book!
90. Huh?
92. I'll throw one away.
93. Can I have two shelves?
94. How many closets do you need?
95. How many can I have?
96. No, that's not how it works.
97. This is antique glass. All wavy and stuff.
98. No, don't do that. Not like that.
99. No!
100. Lift this catch here.
101. I'm terrified it'll break.
102. I gaze out this window.
103. - No way! - I'm not kidding.
104. Hey, that's how relationships work.
105. She's a bit frosty towards me. That's new.
106. Yeah? Why do you think that is?
107. It's embarrassing to say.
108. We've been single together.
109. Lived that life.
110. Then suddenly I move in with you.
111. - And you're happy? - Yeah.
112. No, no, no...
113. Did you date this guy?
114. Yeah, just a fling.
117. You're so predictable!
118. Let's just fuck.
119. Hello!
120. CHAPTER 1
121. - Happy to see you! - Me, too.
122. - Doing good? - Yeah.
123. Hi, Martin.
124. Welcome.
125. Thanks for coming.
126. Dad designed it.
127. We should renovate, but don't want to change anything.
128. It's beautiful.
129. Yeah, but there's stuff like that. Damp.
130. We get this room because we're childless.
131. Dibs on the top bunk.
132. I always feel that Tone doesn't like me.
133. She's just shy.
134. That's what you say about boring people.
135. - It's my turn now. - Okay.
137. Vin?
138. Vin de blanc?
139. Thanks.
140. Do you have any friends with kids yet?
141. No. Only one.
142. Guess this feels unfamiliar.
143. - They're very sweet. - Thanks.
144. So what are you doing now, Julie?
145. Aksel says you've started writing?
146. Well, I wouldn't exactly call it writing.
147. Being modest?
148. No.
149. Seems so.
150. Is there anything you'd like to do,
151. as a career?
152. Questions, questions, Karianne.
153. That question was vulgar when we were students.
154. Lucky you!
155. Yeah, we were.
156. True, we had a lot of freedom.
157. Being young today is different.
158. The pressure is heart-breaking.
159. There's no time to think.
160. Always something on the screen.
161. Take William.
162. If we don't set limits, he spends his life on screens.
163. Nice try.
165. No, it's not your turn.
166. It's Martin's turn.
167. Julie's still the closest.
168. Bedtime.
169. - She's exhausted. - No!
171. - Yes! - No!
172. I don't want to go to bed!
173. I don't want to!
174. Eva, don't make another scene. Come here!
175. No! I don't want to!
176. Let go!
177. - You silly girl! - I don't want to!
178. But I want you to!
180. Kids can be intense.
181. Well, it's okay.
182. - Fun with kids. - Yeah.
183. Can't we just enjoy it?
184. Please. No fights.
185. There are kids here, and it's chaos.
186. Just try.
187. Try playing with them or something, okay?
188. Please.
189. Spare me the kid talk.
190. Sorry, but I wasn't the one who started.
191. You're with someone who's younger than you. There's a gap.
192. You're almost 30. Not a bad age to have kids.
193. I'm 44. I want to go to the next level. With you.
194. It has nothing to do with my friends.
195. You seem to be waiting for something. I don't know what.
196. Hello?
197. Jeez.
198. I didn't want to get into this.
199. Really not.
200. Everything's on your terms.
201. You have time off, so we're on holiday.
202. You agreed.
203. After you publish, you get bored.
204. And start talking about kids.
205. The others here have kids, so it's an issue.
206. Not true.
207. It is true.
208. And then...
209. you get a new idea at some point,
210. and disappear into your drawing board.
211. What are you saying?
212. Don't start. It's not cool.
213. Shut up. Please.
214. Of course I'd be there if we had kids.
215. You know that. You know I want children.
216. Sure, and I'll also want kids at some point.
217. But I don't know...
218. I have no maternal instinct, right?
219. No, you'd make a great mom.
220. I'm sure of it.
221. I want to have children, too.
222. At some point.
223. So what are we waiting for? What has to happen first?
224. I don't know what exactly.
225. I just want to do more first.
226. Okay, like what?
227. What's the obstacle?
228. I don't know! Why do you ask?
229. Your concept is flawed.
230. Most people have kids without sorting out their life first.
231. - They figure it out. - Flawed?
232. That's how most people do it.
233. But I don't want everything to happen on your terms,
234. based on what you want.
235. Fine. I got it. But what do you want?
236. Oh, please! We have to stop.
237. I need sleep to put up with those people.
238. I know a guy who has a theory about that.
239. He says we have a limited number of sperm.
240. Say... three trillion in your lifetime.
241. Jerk off too much...
242. and you run out. Could be true.
243. Easy now, Portnoy.
244. How fascinating.
245. Personally, I feel like
246. I know everything about male problems.
247. Erectile dysfunction,
248. morning wood, infatuation with young women...
249. premature ejaculation...
250. Nice work, Aksel.
251. It's in all the books and movies.
252. Where's the menstrual period?
253. Female orgasm and desire? Where?
254. Good question. Tell us. In juicy detail.
255. No, the point is
256. it shouldn't be taboo.
257. If men had periods, that's all we'd hear about.
258. Can you womansplain it
259. a bit better?
261. Like mansplaining, but womansplaining.
263. Mansplaining is...
264. When a 45-year-old man explains
265. how things really are to a younger woman.
266. Nice demonstration!
267. My pleasure.
268. Ding! Great!
269. Whiskey, anyone?
270. How's the senior citizen club doing?
272. Look who's here!
273. Are you okay?
274. Not really.
275. Show me.
277. Let me see...
278. We'll laugh about it later. It's just a scratch.
279. Karianne's such a drama queen.
280. It's my fault.
281. Not at all, Julie.
282. It is. I always overdo it.
283. I know being here isn't easy for you.
284. I'm not into this whole "happy family" thing either.
285. I'm glad it turned into a party tonight.
286. I hope you had fun!
287. What the hell's wrong with you?
288. What's wrong with having a little fun?
289. I didn't have any fun!
290. Sorry that happened.
291. You don't care!
292. Shut up! Just shut up!
293. You don't give a shit about me!
294. Shall we make a baby?
296. - Hi. - Good morning.
297. There's coffee. And cups.
299. Sorry, I forgot.
300. What's your line of work?
301. I work in a bookstore.
302. Which one?
303. Norli, by the university.
304. Could you excuse me for a moment?
305. Could you sign?
306. Sure, I'll just finish this.
307. Any new Bobcat in the pipeline?
308. I've moved on.
309. Do you work full-time there,
310. or are you just temping on weekends?
311. - Sorry. - Bye.
312. Hey, I think I'll head home.
314. - You good? - Yeah.
315. - Sure? - Yeah, I'm fine.
316. - I can stay if you like. - It's okay.
317. - But I have to stay a bit longer. - Of course.
318. Okay. See you at home.
319. Hi. Can I have a smoke?
320. Of course.
321. I had my second child ten years later.
322. Now we're supposed to introduce solids at 4 months.
323. What made the pediatricians change their minds?
324. - Do you cuddle your kids? - Sure, a lot.
325. They'll be drug addicts.
326. They'll be addicts because I cuddle them?
327. Yeah, according to new research.
328. New research says you shouldn't cuddle your kids?
329. I realize it must be counter-intuitive for a mother.
330. But motherhood upsets your limbic system.
331. So my kids are going to be drug addicts?
332. That's ridiculous. Do you have children?
333. No, but I'm a doctor. I have a medical perspective.
334. Babies express themselves by crying.
335. It's normal for a mother or a father to comfort them.
336. Hi.
337. Not asking me the usual questions?
338. - Which ones? - Who I am, what I do.
339. Who are you? What do you do?
340. I hate those questions.
341. They're especially bad when you're a doctor.
342. Are you a doctor?
343. No, you are.
344. Which questions should I ask?
345. Ask me who I know here.
346. - Who do you know here? - Nobody.
347. I crashed the party.
348. You just waltzed in?
350. Nothing's gonna happen.
351. Of course not.
352. I'm with someone I love.
353. Me, too.
354. And I can't stand cheating. I've been there. Never again.
355. - Right, cheating is... - No good.
356. But where do you draw the line?
357. You can feel it.
358. If I do this...
359. Is that cheating?
361. What about this?
362. - No, that's permissible. - Is it?
363. And hurting someone who's not your partner?
364. - You hurt your partner? - Is that cheating?
365. Did that hurt?
366. Did it?
367. - Feel good? - Yeah, it did.
369. Let me smell your sweat.
370. - No. - Yes.
371. - Seriously? - Yes, that's allowed.
372. - It stinks! - Yes.
373. The kind of smell you never forget.
374. My turn to smell you.
375. No, please. I regret it now.
376. Let me smell.
377. I think you smell nice.
378. I don't know if...
379. this is permissible.
380. Go ahead.
382. You start, then I'll go next.
383. I actually think sex is best
384. when the dick isn't too hard.
385. Because...
386. in a way, then I'm the one
387. who makes it hard, you know?
388. My secret will be dumb now.
389. I guess I misunderstood.
390. I was going to say I like the Barcode Project.
391. It looks pretty from the bridge when I go to work.
392. I expose my darkest secrets, and you...
393. You said "secrets", not "darkest".
394. So why is that a secret?
395. Because everyone thinks it's ugly.
396. Sorry, we're...
397. - Can I whisper it? - Okay.
399. Sorry, I seem to be sitting on everything.
400. My bad.
401. There's nothing sexual about that.
402. Not at all.
403. Although you do like soft dicks.
405. Okay. Your turn.
406. I can't pee.
407. Just relax.
408. I'm going this way.
410. What's your name?
411. Julie.
412. - I'm Eivind. Eivind... - Don't say it.
413. Why not?
414. I'll find you on Facebook, and...
415. Good thinking.
418. - We didn't cheat. - No.
419. - Not at all. - No.
420. Bye.
421. CHAPTER 3 ORAL SEX IN THE AGE OF #METOO
422. Aksel?
423. Aksel, I need to tell you something.
425. "A friend told me she had sex with a man
426. "who pumped his dick into her mouth while he held her head.
427. "She was confused because she enjoyed it.
428. "It really turned her on.
429. "Can you be a feminist and still enjoy being mouth-fucked?
430. "Most women I know are ambivalent about performing oral sex.
431. "They must act as if they like... the pathetic expectation
432. "that it'll turn them on...
433. "I like it flaccid.
434. "So I create the stiffness
435. "instead of having it thrust upon me."
436. This is good.
437. - Yeah? - It's over the top.
438. I don't agree with everything, but it's very well written.
439. Original. Very good.
440. What will you do with it?
441. I don't know.
442. You really think it's good?
443. Yeah. Absolutely.
444. You sure?
445. Yeah, I'm not lying.
446. No?
447. Are you sure?
448. Don't you dare doubt it.
449. It's pretty cerebral.
450. But it turns me on too.
451. - Right? - Kinda.
452. Is that why you wrote it?
453. Intellectual Viagra?
454. - Yeah. - It works.
455. Her piece "Oral Sex in the Age of #MeToo"
456. was published on jubel.no.
457. It was widely shared and set off a lively Facebook debate.
458. With the strong painkillers I'm on, I can't drive.
460. I understand.
461. I hoped I could come, but...
462. I can't spend an hour on a bus with this back.
463. Don't worry about it.
464. Could you come to Hønefoss next weekend?
465. So we can celebrate together.
466. Nathalie says happy birthday too.
467. Say hello from me.
468. How nice to see you.
469. - It's been too long. - Way too long.
470. Anyway, have a nice birthday.
473. I'm too skinny?
474. - You work too much. - True.
475. We'll talk later.
476. Happy birthday!
477. - Why do I always have to go see him? - He's not coming?
478. Well, he's got a backache.
479. There's always something wrong with him.
481. So, he's not coming.
482. That's not nice.
483. He wanted to, but he has a backache.
484. Does he realize how it makes you feel?
485. - He's... - It's a backache, Mom.
486. Sorry.
487. Please help yourself.
488. Thank you. It looks delicious.
489. I hope you like it.
490. At 30, Julie's mom, Eva,
491. had been divorced for two years. A single mom,
492. and accountant in a publishing house.
494. Have you read Julie's article?
496. - And? - It's great.
497. - Have you read it, Mom? - No.
498. Julie's article. It's excellent.
499. At 30, Julie's grandmother had three children.
500. She played Rebecca West in Rosmersholm at the National Theater.
501. At 30, Julie's great-grandmother, Astrid,
502. was a widow, alone with four children.
503. Julie's great-great-grandmother had seven children.
504. Two died of tuberculosis.
505. Julie's great-great-great-grandmother, Herta, was a merchant's wife
506. with six children
507. in a loveless marriage.
508. Julie's great-great-great-great-grandmother never turned 30.
509. The life expectancy for women at the time was 35 years.
510. I don't want to bother you with it, but...
511. It's getting harder and harder to pee.
512. I was scared it was prostate cancer,
513. but it wasn't.
514. - Well, that's good. - Yeah.
515. Still...
516. I go to the toilet all the time.
517. And...
518. there's leakage.
519. Thanks for the cool jacket. Good timing.
520. I want to get into hiking.
521. Sorry we're late.
522. You didn't make them coffee?
523. It's okay.
524. I'll fix something.
525. - How'd it go? - Great.
526. - How many saves? - Lots.
527. Good job.
528. Happy belated birthday.
529. 30 is pretty major.
530. Too bad we missed it.
531. The tournament lasted all day.
532. So we couldn't come.
533. No problem. That's okay.
534. She's the goalkeeper. You should see her play.
535. No, she doesn't have to.
536. She's awesome.
537. I'll let you know next time.
538. Yeah, please do.
540. Did you get the article I sent you?
541. Yeah, I was about to ask you. I couldn't get the link to work.
542. My PC acts up.
543. Know anything about computers?
544. I can take a look.
545. But can't she just resend the email?
546. Wasn't there a...
547. Did she send it in an email?
548. An attachment to an email.
549. No, I pressed the button on the mouse.
550. Then I put the arrow on the square.
551. I tried twice, then it vanished.
552. It could be my fault.
553. Maybe I sent the wrong version.
554. We'll fix it. You have to read that article.
555. It's really good.
556. Very...
557. Very well written, and...
558. Clever girl.
559. When are you coming to see us, Per Harald?
560. We'd love it. Come see where your daughter lives.
561. Sure, of course.
562. But it's hard to park in Central Oslo.
563. They've got that...
564. resident...
565. resident parking there.
567. It's made it much easier to find a space.
568. You just have to pay.
569. And move the car every half hour?
570. Is that the reason you don't come to see us?
571. Because it's hard to drive in town?
572. That's not it.
573. Then what is it?
574. Well, you know...
575. with my painkillers, I'm not allowed to drive.
576. There's that, too.
577. The good thing is, he's open about it.
578. His pains. His prostate.
579. You have to make your own family.
581. Excuse me?
583. Do you have Green Yoga?
584. Let me check.
585. - Which book again? - Green Yoga.
586. Published last year.
587. No, I'll have to order it. It's not in stock.
588. How long will it take?
589. Two weeks.
590. Okay. No thanks.
591. They don't have it either.
593. We can try at Ark.
595. I told her I forgot my sunglasses.
596. I just had to say
597. that I know what we said.
598. But I think about you a lot.
600. I don't want to bug you if you're happy.
601. Are you?
602. - I don't know what to say. - Say nothing.
603. I'd like to see you again. Just to talk.
604. I mean, I'm not going to...
605. But I'd like to see you again. Just to...
606. I'm at Åpent Bakeri in Barcode nearly every day.
607. I work there, I mean. If you want to.
608. So...
609. - Eivind? - Yes.
610. Your glasses.
611. Oh, right. Fuck.
612. Language opens the door to the subconscious.
613. Freud was a great writer.
614. He could be self-critical.
615. He never hesitated to revise his theories.
616. He viewed each individual patient as a research subject.
617. Freud didn't distinguish between therapy and research.
618. I find that very compelling.
619. Especially these days,
620. when scientific methodology is applied
621. even in the humanities.
622. Enough about Freud. How's the movie coming along?
623. Isn't it almost done?
624. Yeah, I've seen it, but...
625. - You have? - Yes.
626. It's no longer mine at all.
627. Is it as bad as you feared?
628. The worst thing is how they've housetrained Bobcat.
629. It's all very sanitized and safe.
630. I'll show you something.
631. A mock-up of the movie poster.
632. I have to admit...
633. I'm embarrassed my name's on it.
635. No! Seriously?
636. You must be kidding. No way.
637. That's the poster. For real.
638. Let's see.
639. Looks like Chip and Dale.
640. Holy shit.
641. Should I laugh or cry?
642. Everything was butchered. The story. All the details.
643. They removed the starfish.
644. Sorry, I'm lost.
645. What starfish?
646. It's, you know...
647. the butthole. The anus.
648. His butt is smooth in the movie.
649. This thing is gone.
650. That's bad in my book.
651. In underground comics you shit,
652. you puke, you fuck and all that stuff.
653. Bobcat is a wild cat in a world of domestic cats.
654. He's a rebel against the bourgeoisie.
655. One of the most iconic buttholes ever.
656. Coffee?
658. I don't know what we should do.
660. Aksel,
661. we need to talk.
662. Yeah, of course.
663. What's wrong?
664. Julie said she'd been thinking.
665. It wasn't his fault. Nothing he could have changed.
666. It's not anything you've done.
667. It's not your fault. But I feel...
668. It was about all their old arguments.
669. Things they both knew.
670. It was bad timing.
671. They'd met in different phases of life.
672. They wanted different things.
673. We want different things.
674. Are you leaving me?
676. I want it to be over.
677. Are you sure you're yourself right now?
679. Do you realize...
680. Do you realize what you're doing?
681. What you're destroying?
682. Yes, of course.
683. That's why it's so hard.
684. Where will you live?
686. You don't know?
687. No. With Mom.
688. Move home to Mom?
689. Yeah. Until I find a place.
691. No, come on...
692. It's over.
693. I've had it. What else can I say?
694. Is something else bothering you and you're venting on me?
696. I've thought about it for a long time.
697. It feels right.
698. Have you met someone?
700. I'm so sick of all this, Julie. Dammit.
701. Sick to death of it.
702. But okay.
703. Just leave. If that's what you want.
704. I'll take a walk while you pack.
705. Julie said he deserved a more grounded woman.
706. Ready for children.
707. Who was dependable,
708. didn't flake out every six months.
709. But I like you flaky.
710. Aksel said he liked her flaky.
711. That he needed someone like that.
712. Who could draw him out of his drawing board.
713. And as for having kids...
714. He said he'd rather be childless with her
715. than have kids with anyone else.
716. You know that's not the only problem.
717. So what is the problem?
718. It's a combination of things, not just that.
719. I can see you're in a crisis right now.
720. I can understand that.
721. But if you love me,
722. we'll sort it all out.
723. Yes, I do love you.
724. And I don't love you.
725. Julie felt that this sentence,
726. the way she said it,
727. her emphasis on certain words,
728. summed up the impossibility of it all.
729. I feel like a spectator in my own life.
730. Like I'm playing a supporting role in my own life.
731. I get that you feel stuck.
732. You need a change.
733. But is this the solution?
734. This is exactly my point.
735. I'm trying to tell you how I feel,
736. and you're defining my feelings.
737. I see what you're doing.
738. What am I doing? Tell me what I'm doing.
739. Shut up, and I'll tell you.
740. You're acting out the confrontation you never dared have with your father.
741. - You're taking it out on me. - Is that so?
742. What do you know about it?
743. This is the crux of our relationship.
744. Everything we feel, we have to put into words.
745. Sometimes, I just want to feel things.
746. You insist on being so damn strong all the time.
747. For you,
748. being strong
749. is about formulating things.
750. If you analyze things
751. at every psychological level,
752. you think you're strong.
753. Because I'm less analytical, you think I'm weaker.
754. She said she was terrified of being alone.
755. Terrified of living without him.
756. That when she left,
757. she'd be like Bambi on the ice.
758. And that was precisely why she had to do it.
759. Aksel mumbled soothing words she didn't hear.
760. She was thinking about how,
761. at the age of 30, she'd just compared herself to Bambi.
763. I'm pathetic.
764. No, you're not.
765. Aksel...
766. Hey...
767. I didn't mean what I said.
769. I said plenty of things, too.
770. Stay a little longer.
771. You'll regret it.
772. I'm sure I will.
773. The saddest thing,
774. is one day, you'll want kids.
775. In any case, you'll have other relationships.
776. And you'll realize that what we had was unique.
777. I know.
778. You don't. But I do. I've had many relationships.
779. I know how hard it is.
780. Nobody communicates like we do. Laughs like we do.
781. Who knows? Maybe we'll get back together someday.
782. Then and there...
783. she meant it.
784. I mean it.
786. - Are you cold? - Yeah.
787. - It looked easier on YouTube. - I told you we should practice.
788. Wait...
789. This one first.
790. - Are you sure? - Yes, this goes on top.
791. Right, but is it first?
792. Isn't the other one first?
793. - No, that's the top. - Okay.
794. Eivind turned it into a funny story he told everyone.
795. But it touched something deeper in her.
796. Awoke something in her.
797. She googled her family name.
798. Her grandfather came from the Far North.
799. The DNA sample she sent to America confirmed it.
800. Eivind didn't see how her newfound identity
801. as 3.1% Sami
802. connected to mind-expanding substances and unrelated exotic rituals,
803. but tried to be supportive.
804. As she became increasingly militant,
805. she saw how climate change was hurting indigenous people.
806. Inuit starving as seals vanish.
807. Melting ice ruining reindeer pastures.
808. Aborigines dying of skin cancer from the hole in the ozone.
809. Eivind could forget about flying to New York.
810. Breathe in. All the way up.
811. She made them live
812. more sustainably.
813. He could always do better.
814. Study the ingredients more closely.
815. Consider the environmental impact of his purchases.
816. Plastic is killing the oceans.
817. Norwegian cod was ferried to China and back.
818. Cobalt mining was destroying the Congo.
819. Batteries had blood on their hands.
820. The sum of Western guilt sat beside him on the couch.
821. Went to bed with him at night.
822. Everything was weighed against the greater cause.
823. He felt he was betraying Sunniva. Betraying the Sami people.
824. Felt like the world's worst person, but couldn't resist.
825. I forgot my sunglasses inside.
826. Right.
827. Be right back.
829. Eivind didn't want kids either.
830. Climate researchers foresaw hard times for future generations.
831. Overpopulation was the reason everything was falling apart.
832. Julie liked how this pessimism added depth
833. to his cheerful nature.
834. But she could tell he had other reasons too.
835. Eivind's father, like Julie's,
836. tended to forget birthdays.
837. Eivind would often say,
838. "According to my father's calendar..."
839. I'm 12 years old.
840. They're all hard. No ripe ones.
841. People die of thirst in Chile
842. because avocados need so much water.
843. Still following Sunniva on Instagram?
844. Yeah, she posts interesting links about the environment.
845. We don't message or anything.
846. She's got over 30,000 followers.
847. For showing off her ass?
848. She's not showing off her ass, she's doing yoga.
849. It's yoga.
850. Okay, she shows it off a bit.
851. I don't mind you following her.
852. It's not a problem, but...
853. I don't want to be
854. the sensible choice while she's the sexy one.
855. There's nothing sensible about you.
856. - I mean... - Yeah.
857. - The angle of her pelvis... - It's yoga.
858. That's not yoga.
859. It is yoga.
860. You liked it!
861. Oh, my god!
862. - That's not cool! - I had to like it!
864. So, that's why...
865. CHAPTER 8 JULIE'S NARCISSISTIC CIRCUS
866. I want people to watch me dance.
867. It's annoying as hell.
868. You can make a fool of yourself on the dance floor and still be cool.
869. So true! I've noticed that. When we dance,
870. you take up all the space.
871. Yeah, but it's also like,
872. "Everyone look at me!"
873. Yeah, that's my point. You're always so mysterious.
874. You still have your stash?
875. What's that?
876. Where'd you find it?
877. What is it?
878. Magic mushrooms.
879. Have you tried it?
882. Why'd you do that?
883. Yuck.
884. Tastes like dirt.
885. Anyone?
886. I don't feel anything. They're probably too old.
887. I gotta go.
888. Are you sure? Could be risky.
889. Come on, man.
890. We've done this before.
891. - We'll talk tomorrow. - Call me.
892. Adil?
893. Can you speak?
894. It's kicking in for him.
895. Julie?
896. Is it starting to kick in?
897. You need water.
898. It's important.
899. You have to drink lots of water.
900. Here.
901. Drink it all.
902. You'll be okay.
903. You know I'm here for you.
905. Drink the water.
906. It's okay! I'm here!
907. Julie, are you okay?
908. I thought I'd make it.
910. Thought we could use some coffee.
911. We won't be doing that again.
912. You should take a shower.
913. Do I smell bad?
914. - Is that... - Oh, my god.
915. Oh, my god. I need to take a shower.
916. Don't worry, it's not urgent.
917. Shall I make breakfast?
918. I feel I can be myself with you.
919. Completely.
920. You weren't yourself before?
921. I was, but I felt like...
922. I had to be...
923. a bit...
924. like I was when we first met.
925. Thanks for putting up with me.
926. I love you.
928. Have you read your old Bobcat comics since you grew up?
929. Because in our day and age,
930. they seem so inappropriate and murky
931. that we feel almost sick
932. reading them.
933. It's unpleasant to realize you created a character
934. who gained popularity at the expense of women.
935. Okay, I get it.
936. You're saying art should be pleasant?
937. Do you think it's art?
938. I brought along some of your early comics.
939. Bobcat is one thing, but then there's Dick Wolf Dick,
940. Pedo the Parrot...
941. Right, I don't really think this is the right medium to
942. explain comic book humor.
943. Have you ever considered that some of your readers
944. may have been victims of incest or rape?
945. Do we stop creating because some people might feel bad?
946. Artists get killed for drawing things others find offensive. They're shot.
947. Are you comparing Mohammed caricatures
948. with drawings of women with big tits?
949. Or with incest?
950. What's your point?
951. Well, yes and no.
952. It's a bit of a cop-out
953. to claim freedom of speech when people criticize you.
954. We're discussing your work right now,
955. so nobody's censoring you.
956. As a woman, I'm upset.
957. I'm offended, though we're not supposed to say that.
958. You have a choice. You don't have to feel offended.
959. It's not a choice.
960. This is very generational.
961. One author cannot be held solely responsible.
962. I think art has to be messy and free.
963. It has to be a bit dangerous to be fun.
964. I want art to be a form of therapy
965. where I can express and work through
966. all my unacceptable thoughts,
967. all my darkest impulses.
968. But you're using your male privilege
969. to mock people weaker than you.
970. It's hardly art, or even humor.
971. Sorry, it's not smart enough to be satire.
972. But this isn't about me.
973. Like, when I create something,
974. it's not just me talking.
975. - I know that much. - Do you?
976. Let's say I draw this interview as a cartoon.
977. The comic version of me might call you a whore.
978. It doesn't mean I think that.
979. It could be
980. a parody of a certain type of insecure male...
981. You used the word "whore"?
982. Yes, I said "whore".
983. You're not interested in what I mean.
984. Can't you see that's crass sexualization?
985. I think we're on a slippery slope here.
986. All you post-feminists are so fucking self-righteous!
987. Thank you, Marthe Refstad and Aksel Willmann.
988. The term is "sex worker" now, by the way.
989. CHAPTER 10
990. I'm happy to help!
991. Long time no see!
992. - Yeah. - How are you?
993. Okay. And you?
994. I'm good.
995. Do you ever talk to Aksel?
996. Is he okay?
997. Yeah, well...
998. I heard the radio interview.
1000. He went a bit far.
1001. He's not doing that well.
1002. Did you know he's sick?
1003. Aksel?
1004. Haven't you heard?
1005. He has cancer.
1006. Sorry, I thought you knew.
1007. It spread quickly.
1008. They discovered it too late.
1009. Cancer?
1010. Pancreatic.
1011. But...
1012. How is he coping?
1013. Pretty well, under the circumstances.
1014. But it's hard.
1015. The prognosis
1016. is not good.
1017. It's incurable.
1018. Thanks for letting me know.
1019. I thought you knew.
1020. No, I hadn't heard anything.
1021. It's just...
1022. I didn't know.
1023. When did you write this?
1024. Have you read it?
1025. I was moving it to paper recycling.
1027. You think?
1028. Yeah, it sucked me right in.
1029. It's really, really great.
1030. I mean...
1031. It's like...
1033. Well...
1034. I have to say,
1035. it's really nice to read about you.
1036. But it's not about me.
1037. But the Christmas scene is your family, right?
1038. Yeah, but it's fiction. You didn't get that?
1039. I made it up.
1040. Okay, it's fiction. In any case...
1041. - It's good. - Because it's me?
1042. No, because it's nice.
1043. "Nice"?
1044. Yeah, nice. Good. Well written.
1045. The way you write is really great.
1046. Like here:
1047. "Too many memories overlapping, blending into a blur."
1048. That resonates with me. It's well written. Truly good.
1049. It's not well written.
1050. What's wrong?
1051. Suddenly you're into literature?
1052. What was the last book you read?
1053. - Are you okay? What's up? - Why?
1054. You criticize everything I do these days.
1055. Sorry, but going through my trash is pretty invasive.
1056. - Can't you see that? - Relax.
1057. - "Relax"? - Calm down.
1058. Relaxing is your specialty!
1059. You don't mind serving coffee till you're 50.
1060. But I want more!
1061. That's hurtful. I don't know what to say.
1062. CHAPTER 11
1063. Hello?
1064. Hey...
1065. Have you eaten?
1066. Yeah, but I can make pasta if you like.
1067. No, I don't need any if you've eaten.
1068. Oops, sorry.
1069. It started with a backache.
1070. I've had backaches before. I didn't worry.
1071. Then my skin turned almost golden.
1072. I thought I looked good.
1073. It turned out to be jaundice.
1074. Mom said I was born jaundiced. They put me in a light box.
1075. Is it painful?
1076. No, not really.
1077. It's okay.
1078. They block selected neural pathways with Botox.
1079. That's good.
1080. Yeah, it keeps me from taking too many painkillers.
1081. How's your family doing?
1082. Fine, I guess.
1083. Mom still follows your every move.
1084. And your dad?
1085. I've basically cut him off.
1086. Good.
1087. He can chase me if he likes.
1088. Does he?
1090. Two coffees.
1091. They thought it was hilarious.
1092. In some circumstances,
1093. morbid humour can be funny.
1094. Even anal sex at a bar mitzvah?
1095. It makes me laugh. But I'm an old guy now.
1097. Well, you know...
1098. I kind of expected this.
1099. I'd given up long before I got sick.
1100. Really. I just watch my favourite old movies over and over.
1101. Lynch, The Godfather Part II...
1102. How many times can you watch
1103. Dog Day Afternoon?
1104. Many times!
1105. You should.
1106. Absolutely.
1107. Sometimes I listen to music...
1108. I haven't heard before.
1110. It's old as well.
1111. Music I didn't know about, but from when I grew up.
1112. It felt as though I'd already given up.
1113. I grew up in an age without Internet and mobile phones.
1114. No, but honestly...
1115. I sound like an old fart. But I think about it a lot.
1116. The world that I knew...
1117. has disappeared.
1118. For me it was all about going to stores.
1119. Record stores.
1120. I'd take the tram to Voices record store in Grünerløkka.
1121. Leaf through used comics at Pretty Price.
1122. I can close my eyes and see the aisles at Video Nova in Majorstua.
1123. I grew up in a time
1124. when culture was passed along through objects.
1125. They were interesting because
1126. we could live among them.
1127. We could pick them up. Hold them in our hands.
1128. Compare them.
1129. A bit like books?
1130. Yeah, a bit like books.
1131. That's all I have. I spent my life doing that.
1132. Collecting all that stuff, comics, books...
1133. And...
1134. I just continued, even when it stopped giving me
1135. the powerful emotions
1136. I felt in my early 20s.
1137. I continued anyway.
1139. now it's all I have left.
1140. Knowledge and memories of stupid, futile things
1141. nobody cares about.
1142. Don't say that.
1143. You've got the comics you created.
1144. I wish I'd had what you had.
1145. To be able to draw
1146. without doubting that you're doing what you're supposed to do.
1147. I really wish I had that.
1148. Yeah, but...
1149. I've got cancer. I'm dying.
1150. Of course I'm being retrospective.
1151. You said you've done that for ages.
1152. Not for that long.
1153. In recent years. I reached a point in life when suddenly...
1154. It just happened.
1155. When...
1156. I began to worship what had been.
1157. And now I have nothing else. I have no future.
1158. I can only look back.
1160. It's not even nostalgia. It's...
1161. fear of death.
1162. It's because I'm scared.
1163. It has nothing to do with art.
1164. I'm just trying to process...
1165. I have surgery tomorrow at 9.
1166. I felt I could tell you anything.
1167. You wouldn't judge me.
1168. You're the least judgemental person I know.
1169. I don't have anyone I can talk to...
1170. the way we used to talk.
1171. Can you tell me what you used to tell me?
1172. I hated hearing it at the time, but can you tell me...
1173. I'll be a good mother?
1174. Are you pregnant?
1175. Congratulations?
1176. How do you feel? Good or bad?
1177. I don't know.
1178. I'm not sure.
1179. It was an accident.
1180. I must've been careless. I mean, clearly I was.
1181. Were you really sure?
1182. Sure you wanted kids?
1183. I was scared, too. I had doubts, of course.
1184. But I didn't want to show them, to keep you from...
1185. I never doubted you'd make a good mother.
1186. I saw that you doubted it.
1187. If I regret one thing, it's that I never managed
1188. to make you see how wonderful you are.
1189. What are you thinking?
1190. This is hard to hear.
1191. But... will you keep it?
1193. I wasted so much time
1194. worrying about what could go wrong.
1195. But what did go wrong, was never the things I worried about.
1196. If he's a kind man, then go for it.
1197. With a kind father, and you as the mother,
1198. everything will be fine.
1199. Your voice has stayed in my head.
1200. We still have great conversations.
1201. No way?
1202. About what?
1203. Mostly about comics.
1204. Eclectic tastes.
1205. Same here.
1206. I have imaginary conversations with you.
1207. I'm sure I remember things about you that you've forgotten.
1208. And the other way round.
1209. Yeah, maybe.
1210. When I'm gone,
1211. all that stuff about you will go with me.
1212. May I ask you a question?
1213. Had you already met him when you broke up with me?
1214. Yeah.
1215. Why didn't you tell me?
1217. I didn't dare.
1218. And now you're breaking up with him?
1219. No, why do you say that?
1220. Maybe because you don't seem happy about the baby.
1221. And that's what you do when things get tough.
1222. I'm glad I'm pregnant.
1223. I'm sorry.
1224. It's alright.
1225. You were the most important relationship in my life.
1226. You don't have to say anything.
1227. I know it's not the same for you.
1228. That's normal. You have many years left to live.
1229. But I know, I feel it.
1230. And I want you to know.
1231. You were the love of my life.
1232. You're a damn good person.
1233. I should've told you before.
1234. But I couldn't.
1235. I'm pregnant.
1236. How long have you known?
1237. I know we don't want kids.
1238. No...
1239. I don't know if I do.
1240. I feel like I never see anything through.
1241. I go from one thing to another.
1242. I need time
1243. to think about all this.
1244. About us.
1247. That's where I lived.
1248. We moved there when I was 8.
1249. Shall we knock?
1250. No. I don't think so.
1251. What do you remember from here?
1252. I remember these colours.
1253. They were always my reference
1254. when I drew my comics.
1255. These colours.
1256. And I remember
1257. the local drunk, who was super nice.
1258. I'm so tired of pretending everything is okay.
1259. It sucks being in so much pain. It sucks.
1260. Everything sucks.
1262. I don't want to be a memory for you.
1263. I don't want to be a voice in your head.
1264. I don't want to live on through my art.
1265. I want to live in my flat.
1266. I want to live...
1267. I want to live in my flat with you.
1268. I want to be happy together.
1269. Bye.
1271. Hi, Julie.
1272. Aksel's condition has suddenly worsened.
1273. He's too ill for his planned treatment.
1274. He may not make it through the night.
1275. His family is with him, but I thought you should know.
1276. There's nothing more to say.
1277. Cut!
1278. One more.
1279. One more quick take. Slight adjustment.
1280. Be sadder.
1282. But he gets up so quickly.
1283. Hey!
1284. Okay, camera ready.
1285. Action!
1287. Cut! Great.
1288. Let's move on.
1289. Right, stills.
1290. Sorry, I need some shots of you.
1291. - Sure. Here? - Yeah.
1292. - Are you okay? - Yeah.
1293. But I think I was pretty terrible.
1294. Then use that. Hold on to that feeling.
1295. Act like you're looking at him.


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Early signs and symptoms (1)
Early signs and symptoms of spontaneous early menopause: Women's experiences
Experiences of diagnosis (2)
Seeking help and diagnosis for spontaneous early menopause: Women's experiences
Finding out about medically-induced early menopause: Women's experiences
Causes of early menopause: Women's accounts (2)
Causes of spontaneous early menopause: Women's accounts
Links between early menopause and medical treatment: Women's accounts
Experiences of symptoms and long-term health effects (4)
Women's experiences of symptoms of early menopause – Part 1
Self-management of symptoms of early menopause: Women's experiences
Long-term health effects of early menopause: Women's experiences
Seeking information (1)
Seeking information about early menopause: Women's experiences
Experiences of treatment (6)
Hormone-based medications for early menopause: Women's knowledge and perspectives
Taking hormone-based medications for early menopause: Women's experiences
Non-hormone based medications for early menopause: Women's experiences
Complementary medicines and alternative therapies for early menopause: Women's experiences
Psychological therapies for early menopause: Women's experiences
Lifestyle changes to help manage early menopause: Women's experiences
Experience with health practitioners and health services (3)
Early menopause care: Women's experiences with GPs
Early menopause care: Women's experiences with specialists and other health practitioners
Early menopause care: Women's experiences with health services
Personal life and relationships (6)
Emotional impact of early menopause and fertility loss: Women's experiences
IVF, fertility preservation and other paths to parenthood
Early menopause and identity, social connection and future plans: Women's experiences
Impact of early menopause on relationships: Women's experiences
Intimacy, sex and dating after early menopause: Women's experiences
Impact of early menopause on work, study and finances: Women's experiences
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Women's messages to other women with early menopause
Messages to health practitioners caring for women with early menopause
The women we spoke with had various messages and pieces of advice for other women experiencing spontaneous or medically-induced early menopause (EM), focused on accessing good healthcare and information, building a support network, and learning to live with EM.
Accessing good healthcare
In order to access good healthcare, women advised other women with EM to firstly trust themselves, and their own instincts about their body and health. As Melinda said: 'You know your body. I think I tried to just pretend things weren't happening a little bit, or, they were happening, [but I'd think] 'oh it can't be that,' you know. I think be in tune with your body, listen to your body.' Trust in one's own body was important for women to be willing to 'push for answers', research their condition, or get a second opinion, given that not all health practitioners are equally well informed about EM. As Ella said, '[you need] to have the strength to seek out the information, because you're not necessarily going to be handed the information on a plate.'
Vicki , who has Turner Syndrome, talked about the importance of 'doing your research' and being persistent in getting 'an answer' or 'a contact worth pursuing.'
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I'd say do your research, do your research, do your research. Follow your gut feeling. Yeah, if – you might think, 'Oh such and such will – I'll ring up such and such a place. They'll have the answer for me, or they'll know where to go,' and they may not, and you might get turned down a billion times but you've just got to keep enquiring, keep enquiring. Sometimes I've been put through to the most absurd places [laughing], but I finally got an answer, or I've finally got a contact worth pursuing. So yeah, you've just got to – you've just got to do your research. Sometimes with Google, you might find nothing, but then if you put in similar words for the same thing, you get an answer, or you know, you've got to ring around and all that.
Natalie experienced EM after a hysterectomy for endometriosis. She advised other women to 'shop around', particularly at the diagnosis stage, if they weren't satisfied with the care they were receiving from their doctor.
Don't feel embarrassed to shop around, because even your own GP, he might have been really good with a lot of other things that you've gone and seen him with, but maybe this just isn't his area of expertise.
Maybe it's just not something that he's used to dealing with, and so if you feel that there is something wrong, don't – it's like people feel embarrassed going to a different hairdresser, like they're betraying, they're breaking up a relationship. Don't feel like you're doing that. Just – and listen to recommendations from other people as well, because my sister would never have had the diagnosis if she didn't talk to us about it and we said to her, "Go see our doctor." So I think – I think that's the most important thing. Don't feel embarrassed about what's happening to you as well, because it's not odd. It's not welcome, but it's not odd [laughing].
A few women commented that finding a health practitioner who was not only 'skilled' but who was easy to get along with was also important. Kate, who was experiencing menopausal symptoms as a result of ovarian suppression therapy, said: 'get a specialist who cares about you and how you're feeling and really asks those questions.'
Based on her experience of spontaneous EM, Maddy advised other women to 'educate' themselves, and find a GP they 'liked' and who was specialised in women's health.
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My advice would be educate yourself because not all doctors are right or even skilled enough. So I'd certainly go and get – educate yourself through books and things like that. My advice would be find – and I think there's a bit more around now – like but find a doctor who specialises in women's things and there's – and there's those – there seems to be a few more of those around now as well. And go to – get counselling.
Get counselling.
Yeah. That's been – that's something I wish I did earlier. But talk to other people about it and find some resources and things like that and – and if your GP's not working – find another one if they're not working for you. Some are them are not. So I would certainly keep going and find a GP that you liked and you resonated with and they understood you and even if they couldn't help you they'd point you to somebody who can. But certainly educate yourself for sure and educate yourself on treatments, on HRT and – and things like that.
Accessing good quality information
The importance of finding 'reputable' information sources was mentioned by several women. Kirsty advised women 'throughout the journey to tap into information that is credible and reliable and don't get bogged down in it. Get the information that you need, but don't spend hours and hours immersing yourself. It actually can feel like a scary place when you look at some of that stuff.' Health information sources women found helpful included Jean Hailes for Women's Health, and for cancer, the Breast Cancer Network Australia, Cancer Council, Counterpart, and Ovarian Cancer Australia.
Tracey's advice to other women contemplating a risk reducing bilateral oophorectomy was to ensure they get information from 'good sources.'
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I guess I'd tell other people to – I didn't have a GP but if you have got a good, you know, GP, to use them as a resource and yeah, you know. People look things up online, you know, all the time these days. So, you know, look at something that's reputable like, you know, I said I looked at the [hospital name] and I looked at Jean Hailes and, you know, they were, you know, reputable, you know, websites, good sources of information.
I looked at other things and just at forums. Because of this leg pain, you know, I've Googled that and just come up with different forums and I've read through and I just – different things people have written and to me, that was not helpful at all, you know, it's not helpful at all and sometimes when people write things in forums, they can, you know, overstate the way things are and I've stopped reading that. That's ridiculous.
So, you know, get information from your GP or a good reputable source and yeah, just don't – you don't know how you might be affected, you know, by the surgery, by menopause. So yeah, I don't know. Like I said, if someone had said to me, you know, "You won't be symptomatic", you know, maybe I would have had it earlier. But you don't know that and I was worried. I was worried about it and I'm glad that my worry was unfounded. But like I said before, I don't believe you should have to put up with symptoms, like there's plenty of treatments and management strategies and things like that so – and I know that's not going to resolve everything for everyone but I would say speak to, you know, speak to your GP or a, you know, women's health clinic, you know. There's lots of different resources around that are available so yeah, if you do experience those sorts of symptoms, then try and talk to someone about how you can get rid of them or manage them.
Building a support network
Many recommended that other women experiencing EM talk to others about their experience and 'surround' themselves with support, because, as Jacqueline said, 'you can't go through it alone, it's just too heavy a burden.' A few advised seeking counselling or a support group, in addition to talking with friends and family. Sonia recommended women 'go talk to someone who's there just for you about this and all the stuff that it brings up.'
Nancy, who experienced surgical menopause when she learned she carried the BRCA1 gene mutation after having breast cancer treatment, urged other women to share their problems with others to 'reduce pressure.'
Happy is [a] very important thing. Make you [are] happy, you will [be] getting better, this one is very important.
So and how, what can women do to make themselves happier do you think?
Talk with some – like, we have found some group, talking with other people [who] have your same problem, then if you can talk, you reduce [feeling] upset.
Because if you can talk, it means you are [not] upset. You share with other people, you reduce your pressure.
Fiona underwent surgical menopause to reduce her risk of breast cancer recurrence. She emphasised the importance of talking to other people with similar or related experiences.
Talk to your grandmother, talk to your mother and work out what suited them through menopause because it's like your birth story. My birth story was very similar to my mother's birth story. So the same sort of thing goes hormonally through the family, so that's the easiest thing. Check with your family and see how they went through.
Yeah talk to your family, find out what's happening with their menopausal stories
And talk to anybody who's been through it. And talk to other patients in the same thing. Go through Breast Cancer Network Australia and have a look – there's lots of different people there who talk about it. Ask questions, you can join forums, join your local dragon boat group of girls or go online.
A couple of women advised other women in relationships to speak openly about or seek help for problems with intimacy, if they were experiencing them. As Maree said, 'it's not something that if you ignore it it's going to go away. You need to address it.'
Lydia said talking about intimacy, whether with a GP or a partner, was 'hugely' helpful.
I think with regards to the intimacy stuff, I think try and – if you can – chat to your GP, if you've got a good GP that you can talk to about it earlier rather than later, I think that's better, and yeah, I mean I don't know how, you know, what kind of relationship women have with their husbands, if they can talk to them, if they can't – but yeah, talking about things hugely helps, rather than just kind of closing yourself off because all the symptoms are just so overwhelming sometimes.
Life with and beyond early menopause
Women wanted others experiencing EM to know that they were 'not alone.' As Kirsty said, 'one in 100 women go through [spontaneous] menopause before the age of 40. I mean that's 1% of the population, that's really high, but no one talks about it.' Others wanted to remind women that they were more than a 'baby-making body.' Lorena said, 'First thing – don't give up, because it's too easy to think, 'Oh, my God, I am useless.' That's not true. I can see everything, how I grew up and the things I did ever since [first being diagnosed with spontaneous EM]; I did so many really nice things.'
While not underestimating the challenges of EM, physically and emotionally, women also reassured other women that it was possible to come to terms with EM and its implications such as involuntary childlessness. To help her work though her grief over not being able to have children, Jenni found it 'cathartic' to create a photobook in which she documented her experiences with EM, infertility and childlessness, adding that 'it validated [her] experience.'
Others commented that the experience of EM could lead to positive outcomes. Several women described learning to 'value' themselves more following their experience of EM, prioritising their health, and appreciating what they had.
Sonia shared her reflections on how she felt now, several years after being diagnosed with spontaneous EM.
I guess I would also want to say this to other women – yes, there is this sort of enormous shift in identity and things are thrown up in the air, and it takes a while to land, and things land on different ground in a different sort of way, you know. But I'm healthy … and even the things that I thought I wouldn't get over like the grief over not having children, it passes, and you know, like every kind of loss, it moves and it changes. And – look after your health, look after your health!
Melinda reflected on the 'positives' of spontaneous EM, and encouraged other women to 'enjoy life for what it is.'
It's just enabled me to focus on what's really important in life I think and, I'm focussed more now about yeah well how strong my bones will be in 10 years' time rather than how I might look in my bikini. You know it just really is those, it really just, and I think again that comes with age anyway but I do think that those things really start to ring true and that enables you to just let go and just enjoy life for what it is, so I guess in a nutshell get some good, good support around you, professional and family, you know family or friends or someone you can trust and confide in, I think it is helpful to have someone like that. Or from within, you know, your family.
Focus on the family you do have whatever that may, however that may look and yeah, to really think of it as a time to really focus on yourself and what your needs are physically, emotionally and do those things that make you feel good and get on a good plan and it's taken work on my part of course as well as, I mean specialists can tell me what to do but I've had to go away and do it. So I think that's been an effort to do that but it's been worthwhile because I can say I'm in a regular way of doing things now, [there] could still [be] room for improvement, but yeah I'm much better able to tap into my own needs and when I need a little bit of down time I will let myself have that downtime as opposed to just pushing on and meeting everybody else's needs because that's what I know that I need to do to feel good and get on with the next day.
And sometimes I think, well you know you're menopausal of course you're going to be tired today and I give myself a little bit of leeway as well, you know from, from time to time which I probably wasn't good at in the past, I'm much better now at tuning into my own needs and I do think that's come from this whole experience definitely. Yeah so, that would probably be my main, yeah, being grateful for what I do have and as opposed to what I don't have.
Women emphasised the existence of help, whether for EM symptoms, emotional difficulties, or for some women fertility preservation. As Yen-Yi said, 'seek help. There's always help.' Some women mentioned menopause clinics or finding health practitioners with expertise in diagnosing and managing EM. Others talked about finding medical treatments or lifestyle measures effective for symptom management, shared their experiences about novel fertility preservation methods that had been successful for them (see IVF, fertility preservation and other paths to parenthood), or had found good counsellors or support groups.
Theresa , who underwent surgical menopause after a risk-reducing oophorectomy, reminded other women that there was 'no need to suffer' EM symptoms and encouraged them to 'investigate' their 'options.'
And what about message or advice to other women in – with similar experience to you, anything you'd like to pass on?
Just to not underestimate the impact that a lot of these symptoms are having on your life, and to know that there is, in most cases for most of the symptoms, the effects of menopause, there are things that can be done to help minimise those, and not to wait a couple of years to [laughing] to discover what those might be. There – really the message that they tried to get through to me was that you don't have to suffer, which really, no need, and you know, so to be willing to at least investigate what some of those options might be to assist each person. That would be the main one there.
Yeah. There is no need to suffer and most things can be treated or minimised or there are some coping mechanisms and skills and tricks and things that you can do to help minimise that impact.
Yen-Yi felt that there were many resources available for women experiencing EM following cancer treatment, and urged other women to 'reach out.'
Reach out, and reach out, and reach out. I just think that it's not perfect, but no matter what it is, we are so well-equipped [in Australia]… So I guess sometimes when people tell me, "Oh, you know, the system's so broken, or this doesn't work, or that doesn't work," and I was thinking, 'We're about 90% there, you know. Yes, the 10% in anything is always the hardest to attain and to reach, because you know, you're attaining for the – the last 10% you know.'
But I'm thinking of the story this vicar was telling me when he say he used to do a lot of ministry work in [country name], and they were teaching the little kids and they were talking about vets, and then the kids said, "What? You have doctors for animals? We don't even have doctors for us." And then that's when I realised that, you know, there's so much to be grateful for where we are, so you know, I would just say – use the resources, reach out.
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Can Cannabis Help Treat and Possibly Even Prevent Malaria?
By Sensi Seeds
Medically reviewed by Sanjai Sinha, MD
Malaria is a parasitic, mosquito-borne disease that affects more than 200 million people worldwide. It can be fatal, though not all strains are equally lethal. Cannabis, or cannabinoids more specifically, may hold the power to prevent devastating effects of some forms of malaria, particularly cerebral malaria, and even increase lifespan expectancy.
There are five Plasmodium species that can cause illness in humans:
P. falciparum & P. vivax: These are the two primarily responsible for malaria deaths in humans
P. ovale & P. malariae: These two cause a milder, generally non-fatal form of malaria
P. knowlesi: This one causes malaria in macaque monkeys, and can be transmitted to humans with severe, but usually non-fatal results.
Malaria is transmitted by around one hundred separate species of mosquitoes, although there are thirty to forty species that are more commonly known to do so. All species of mosquito that transmit malaria belong to the Anopheles genus and are female; A. gambiae is particularly known as a malaria vector.
Life cycle of malaria
The life cycles of the above-mentioned Plasmodium species depend on the presence of both a human (or mammal) and a mosquito host and happens in three stages:
Mosquito stage (sporogenic cycle)
Human liver stage (exo-erythrocytic cycle)
Human blood stage (erythrocytic cycle)
When a mosquito bites an infected human, it ingests haploid Plasmodium gametocytes (immature male and female reproductive cells). These then develop into mature male and female gametes, which fuse together to form diploid zygotes.
The zygotes then develop into actively-moving ookinetes, which burrow into the intestinal walls of the mosquito. Here, the ookinetes develop further into oocysts—thick-walled cellular structures that manufacture small haploid cells known as sporozoites.
After 8-15 days, the oocysts burst and release a flood of sporozoites, which make their way to the mosquito's salivary glands. The next time the mosquito bites a human, it will then release the sporozoites into the bloodstream of the human host. Once this occurs, the sporozoites infiltrate the liver cells and begin to grow and divide, forming new haploid cells known as merozoites.
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The merozoites continue to reproduce asexually, producing tens of thousands of offspring, and ultimately cause the liver cells to burst. The merozoites then exit the liver, rejoin the bloodstream, infiltrate the red blood cells, and continue to reproduce and divide.
Some merozoites don't reproduce asexually, and instead form male and female gametocytes. Thus, the infected human will pass on the gametocytes to the next mosquito that ingests its blood, thereby completing the cycle.
Malaria becomes symptomatic when the merozoites have multiplied sufficiently to affect multiple cells in the bloodstream—this usually occurs within two weeks of infection, although dormant periods of several months or years can occur with some Plasmodium species.
As the merozoites multiply within the red blood cells, they periodically cause them to burst, whereupon the merozoites escape back into the bloodstream and infect new red blood cells. These burst-and-infiltrate cycles occur periodically, and correspond with the cyclical recurrence of fever in infected individuals.
In cases of infection by P. falciparum, infected red blood cells can breach the blood-brain barrier before bursting, which can lead to cerebral malaria.
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Symptoms of malaria
Symptoms of malaria usually manifest within 15 days of the infecting bite. The five malaria species cause similar initial symptoms, with headache, fever, joint pain, vomiting and shivering most commonly observed. Convulsions, jaundice, anaemia and damage to the retinas are also common early symptoms.
Malaria is often characterised by cyclical recurrent fever, or paroxysm, which corresponds with the cycle of bursting and infiltration of the red blood cells. Depending on the species of Plasmodium that has infected the host, the duration of the fever cycle varies.
With P. vivax and P.ovale, fever typically recurs every two days, while with P. malariae the cycle lasts three days. In P. knowlesi, the fever recurs on a 24-hour cycle, while P. falciparum may cause recurrent fever every 36-48 hours, or may cause a milder but continuous fever.
Prognosis of malarial infections
When treated early, malaria patients often successfully beat the illness and regain full health. It's estimated that in 2017, around 435,000 deaths occurred as a result of around 219 million malaria cases. The mortality rate seems to have dropped some from 2012, when there were 627,000 deaths among 207 million cases.
However, malaria cases are often poorly documented, and some state the annual prevalence to be much higher—up to 500 million cases per year.
However, if treatment does not occur immediately on onset of symptoms, the disease can progress in severity extremely rapidly, and can cause death in a matter of days. Death usually occurs as a result of complications such as acute respiratory distress, which can occur due to acute anaemia, pulmonary oedema (accumulation of fluid in the lungs) or pneumonia.
Complications & mortality
Blackwater fever is another complication of malaria. This occurs due to the rupturing of red blood cells in the bloodstream, which allows the release of haemoglobin directly into the blood and urine. This can lead to renal failure, which is typically fatal if untreated. The complication is characterised by the presence of dark-red or black urine.
Cerebral malaria has a higher mortality rate than simple malaria, causing most malaria-related deaths globally. Not all cases of P.falciparum result in breaching of the blood-brain barrier to cause cerebral malaria, and instances of it occurring are far more common in children below the age of five.
Although its prevalence is low, it's one of the more severe complications of P. falciparum. As of 2010, it was reported to affect around 575,000 children alone each year. Cerebral malaria may often lead to coma, permanent neurological difficulties, and possibly death.
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History of treating malaria with cannabis
Cannabis has a long history of use against diseases that cause symptoms of fever, such as cholera, rabies and tetanus. There are documented instances of use by ancient cultures including those of China and India; anthropologists have also documented traditional use which persists to this day among some African and Southeast Asian populations.
The early Chinese literature makes reference to cannabis being used as a treatment for malaria. Summarising its therapeutic properties, the Pen T'sao Ching states that cannabis 'clears blood and cools temperature', a reference to cannabis' ability to reduce fever.
In Cambodia, people infected with malaria were traditionally treated with cannabis; such use may persist to this day in some regions. Reportedly, the smoke from one kilogram of male and female plants is inhaled twice daily until the fever has passed. Occasionally, an alternative method is employed, whereby a preparation of cannabis and water is administered orally in two-millilitre doses prior to each meal. However, this method is held to be less effective.
In Africa, cannabis is reported to have been used by Zimbabwean traditional healers as a remedy for malaria, as well as for blackwater fever, a potentially-fatal complication of the disease. It's believed that traditional cannabis-based medicines continue to be in use among rural populations both in Africa and in Southeast Asia.
Use in traditional Indian medicine
In 1893-1894, the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission Report referred to cannabis being used as a prophylaxis against malaria, administered in the form of 'a cool refreshing drink'. At the time, cannabis was widely used in both the Ayurvedic (Hindu) and Tibbi (Islamic) branches of medicine as a hypnotic, analgesic and antispasmodic. The diaphoretic (perspiration-inducing) and diuretic properties of cannabis were considered effective in reducing fever.
In 1957, Indian doctors I. C. Chopra and R. N. Chopra published an in-depth report on the uses of cannabis in traditional Indian medicine. According to the report, cannabis was in common use 'as a smoke and as a drink' in malarial regions, where it was believed to be effective as a prophylactic.
The submontane and Terai (savannah and grassland areas of northern India and Nepal) regions of Uttar Pradesh state, where wild cannabis is abundant, are specifically noted for their extensive use of bhang (a cannabis-based drink)as a treatment for malaria.
Bhang is believed to be more effective than ganja (herbal cannabis) in allaying the 'general feeling of restlessness' brought on by malarial fever. For medicinal purposes, it appears that cannabis was more commonly administered orally, and rarely by smoking. However, in some regions, hashish (colloquially known as nasha or charas) was smoked to both treat and prevent malarial headache.
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The decline of traditional cannabis treatments for malaria
By the end of the 19th century, cannabis and hashish-based medications were in widespread use in the USA and Europe. Such treatments were in use for malaria, but their application for this purpose was apparently limited compared to their use in other areas of medicine. Of course, prohibition of cannabis dealt a fatal blow to its use in medicine, at least in the Western world.
The UN Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs (1961) was strongly protested by India and other sympathetic nations. In recognition of cannabis' cultural significance, India was given 25 years to enact specific legislation. Despite this, the Chopra & Chopra report of 1957 stated that use of cannabis in Indian folk medicine had already begun to rapidly decline in the preceding decades.
One factor was the decline in potency and consistency of cannabis-based medicines—as the global market for Indian hemp declined, so did the domestic industry. Furthermore, the number of potent and effective modern drugs available on the market had sharply increased, and had begun to replace traditional cannabis treatments.
However, at the time of the report it was observed that practitioners of indigenous medicine still made extensive use of cannabis in the rural areas of India, and that cannabis-based preparations remained popular household remedies for many minor ailments. Roving mendicants, still common throughout India, often carry and use bhang, and may still on occasion supply it to villagers in rural locations.
Modern research into cannabis & malaria
While modern research into cannabis as a treatment for malaria is sparse, one or two studies do exist. A study published in 2007 compared the effectiveness of extracts taken from cannabis and another plant widely used in folk medicine, Aloe vera (also known as A. barbadensis), in killing larvae of the vector mosquito species Anopheles stephensi. While not directly treating malaria itself, such tactics can represent an important step in preventing transmission of malaria.
Individual plant specimens of both species were treated with three different solvents—carbon tetrachloride, petroleum ether and methanol—to produce three different extracts. The study demonstrated that both cannabis and aloe vera extracts showed effectiveness in killing the larvae, with the carbon tetrachloride extracts being significantly more effective. However, all extracts taken from Aloe vera were shown to be more effective than those taken from cannabis.
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CBD may prevent damage from cerebral malaria
Cerebral malaria is a severe and potentially devastating complication of P. falciparum infection, which can cause permanent neurological and behavioural deficits, even after infection resolution by antimalarial drugs. Cannabidiol (CBD), the major non-psychoactive cannabinoid found in C. sativa, has been repeatedly demonstrated to potentially exert a neuroprotective effect in some illnesses. It has also been shown to slow the rate of neurodegenerative diseases such as multiple sclerosis and Alzheimer's disease.
A study published in 2015 aimed to investigate whether CBD could prevent behavioural changes in mice infected with P. berghei-ANKA. This species of Plasmodium doesn't affect humans, but will cause symptoms in many mammal species, and is a widely-used model organism for research purposes. Commencing three days subsequent to infection, some mice were injected with 30mg/kg doses of CBD.
Five days subsequent to infection, the infected mice were treated with artesunate, an established malaria treatment that works by reducing parasitemia (parasite load in the blood). After artesunate treatment and full reduction of parasitemia, the mice were subjected to memory and cognitive tasks.
Mice that were solely administered with P. berghei-ANKA displayed memory deficits and increased anxiety, whereas mice treated with CBD did not display these effects.
Although not replicated in humans, these results indicate that CBD could prove useful as an adjunctive therapy to reduce or entirely prevent brain damage caused by cerebral malaria.
Difficulties in treating malaria
The available treatment options for malaria are limited. Plasmodium parasites, including P. falciparum, are becoming more resistant to the most common class of anti-malarial compounds, the artemisinin group, of which artesunate is a member.
Overuse of synthetic chemicals such as DDT has encouraged mosquito populations to develop resistance (Tonnendreher).
As methods of killing the parasites directly are few and decreasingly reliable, the focus has shifted onto the use of synthetic pesticides to control the populations of the disease vectors— Anopheles mosquitoes. This has led to abundant use of synthetic pesticides, including one of the most notorious—dichlorodiphenyl trichloroethane (DDT).
Due to this overuse, vector mosquito species are becoming more resistant to synthetic insecticides such as DDT, and populations that were previously under control are increasing again in some locations.
Despite this, continued application of these dangerous synthetic chemicals is causing serious and widespread environmental damage, including the destruction of non-target species, bioaccumulation, and loss of biodiversity.
As a result of these alarming developments, there is increased need for alternative treatment methods for malaria that don't cause widespread environmental damage—and to which vector mosquitoes or Plasmodium species have not developed resistance.
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Is cannabis still useful as a treatment for malaria?
Due to improved modern methods for treating malaria, as well as its current illegal status, the use of cannabis as a remedy for malaria has fallen by the wayside. However, given that malaria remains a significant risk for almost one half of the world's population, particularly in developing countries, any drug that can be produced locally and at low cost is worth considering as part of the array of available treatment methods.
While treatments may have improved, prevalence remains extremely high, largely due to the poverty of affected nations and the logistical difficulties inherent in distributing the necessary drugs.
Furthermore, cannabis is indigenous or naturalised in almost every region of the world—particularly in and around the tropics—where malaria is endemic. If made legal and regulated, it could still be usefully implemented as a prophylactic and fever reducer. There are other plants that may be more effective than cannabis at treating specific malaria symptoms, such as Aloe vera, but they don't generally have the breadth of application in medicine that cannabis offers.
By far, the most exciting discovery is the potential for cannabidiol to lessen the neurological damage caused by cerebral malaria. This potentially life-altering complication of P. falciparum infection affects over half a million children every year, and even when not fatal can have consequences that negatively affect the sufferer throughout the course of their life. Low-cost cannabidiol treatments could have a very significant part to play in reducing the prevalence of this phenomenon.
This article is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always consult with your doctor or other licensed medical professional. Do not delay seeking medical advice or disregard medical advice due to something you have read on this website.
8 thoughts on "Can Cannabis Help Treat and Possibly Even Prevent Malaria?"
DrewGs9
Man, last 2 weeks ago, Malaria almost killed me. I couldn't eat, throwing up anytime I try to eat. Taking drugs was difficult for me, I felt like dying.
So one day I decided to smoke weed(loud) cus I quit smoking while taking my drugs.
The day I resumed smoking, I started eating too much, my headache reduced and I felt like it wasn't sick.
I swear to God, I felt better til today.
So anytime I have this crazy symptoms, I just run to smoking weed.
Omenyi Sabastine
I use it when I visited Africa it really work
Aryanna Joy
Also consider that freshly Made Carrot Soup are recommended home remedies for typhoid fever.
Don Droga
I was cured from Malaria in Africa with Cannabis.
I have 2 types of Malaria Falciparum and Vivax.
The fevers and sweats are very intense and I use sweet wormwood and cloves which help considerably.
I also have Bio Resonance treatment.
I am also going to try CBD oil with a 16.5% of CBD to help with the joint pains and fever along with Aloe Vera pure juice. after reading this article.
Maybe this will work better?
Thanks for the research.
Much appreciated and I will let you know of any further improvements.
Yes cannabis worked for me in Africa. Lots of fluids as well. If you smoke cannabis the mosquitoes will also stay away!
Aalok
very useful article. i tried many plant extract for larval control
kindly send me more
BetiniAbasi Usoroh
Beautiful write up. I'll love to know more.
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YEREVAN (RFE/RL) –Bowing to mounting pressure from opposition politicians, civic activists and media, Ruben Hayrapetian, an influential businessman close to the government stepped down as member of Armenia's parliament late on Tuesday in connection with deadly violence at a Yerevan restaurant owned by him.
In a written statement, Hayrapetian said he feels "moral" responsibility for the death of Vahe Avetian, a military doctor who was attacked at the restaurant in still unclear circumstances.
"I would give everything to be there on that ill-fated night to hold back the fists raised against the young men and stop that tragedy, which took away a life, ruined families and made children orphans," he said. "I would give everything to roll that back. But I can't. Vahe is not alive anymore. I must live with that and look his family members in the eyes. I don't know how."
"Now many are blaming me, even for things that have nothing to do with me and are fabricated. They probably have the right to do that. But my main accuser is myself," he said.
"I should have prevented that tragedy but failed to do that. Such an incident should not have been possible in a place connected with myself and my family. I can't forgive myself and don't know how I should ask for forgiveness."
"I hope that I will one day manage to receive forgiveness from Vahe's family. In any case, I will do everything for that," added the controversial tycoon heading the Armenian Football Federation.
The statement came shortly after Hayrapetian reportedly met with President Serzh Sarkisian at the presidential palace in Yerevan. There was no immediate official confirmation of that meeting.
Hayrapetian earlier denied any responsibility for the June 17 severe beating of Avetian and two other military doctors at the Harsnakar restaurant. In a June 19 statement, he condemned media reports and commentary blaming him for the violence. He also pledged to "do everything" to help law-enforcement authorities identify and punish the culprits.
Six men, most of them the restaurant's security guards, were subsequently arrested and charged with assaulting the medics. The main suspect in the case reportedly worked as one of Hayrapetian's bodyguards.
Hayrapetian came under renewed fire after Avetian died of severe heads wounds last Friday. He has been the main target of virtually daily demonstrations held in Yerevan, including outside the presidential office, since then.
The protesters, who are also actively using online social networks, say that Hayrapetian is responsible for the incident because he had instilled a sense of impunity in burly men working for him. They have said he must therefore resign as both parliament deputy and chairman of the Armenian Football Federation.
Also calling for Hayrapetian's exit from the National Assembly on Tuesday was the Armenian Association of Political Science. The organization is headed by Hayk Kotanjian, a retired army general who runs a think-tank linked to Armenia's Defense Ministry. A corresponding statement issued by Kotanjian on Tuesday morning gave more weight to media reports that many in the Armenian military also hold Hayrapetian responsible for the army doctor's death.
A deputy chairman of the ruling Republican Party of Armenia (HHK), Galust Sahakian, brushed aside those calls just hours before Hayrapetian announced his resignation. Sahakian insisted that the tycoon did not sanction the assault and must not be punished for his employees' violent conduct. He told RFE/RL's Armenian service (Azatutyun.am) that the HHK leadership headed by President Sarkisian will not even discuss the resignation demands.
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Q: How to setup and launch a Scrapy spider programmatically (urls and settings) I've written a working crawler using scrapy,
now I want to control it through a Django webapp, that is to say:

*

*Set 1 or several start_urls

*Set 1 or several allowed_domains

*Set settings values

*Start the spider

*Stop / pause / resume a spider

*retrieve some stats while running

*retrive some stats after spider is complete.

At first I thought scrapyd was made for this, but after reading the doc, it seems that it's more a daemon able to manage 'packaged spiders', aka 'scrapy eggs'; and that all the settings (start_urls , allowed_domains, settings ) must still be hardcoded in the 'scrapy egg' itself ; so it doesn't look like a solution to my question, unless I missed something.
I also looked at this question : How to give URL to scrapy for crawling? ;
But the best answer to provide multiple urls is qualified by the author himeslf as an 'ugly hack', involving some python subprocess and complex shell handling, so I don't think the solution is to be found here. Also, it may work for start_urls, but it doesn't seem to allow allowed_domains or settings.
Then I gave a look to scrapy webservices :
It seems to be the good solution for retrieving stats. However, it still requires a running spider, and no clue to change settings
There are a several questions on this subject, none of them seems satisfactory:

*

*using-one-scrapy-spider-for-several-websites
This one seems outdated, as scrapy has evolved a lot since 0.7

*creating-a-generic-scrapy-spider
No accepted answer, still talking around tweaking shell parameters.

I know that scrapy is used in production environments ; and a tool like scrapyd shows that there are definitvely some ways to handle these requirements (I can't imagine that the scrapy eggs scrapyd is dealing with are generated by hand !)
Thanks a lot for your help.

A: For changing settings programmatically and running the scraper from within an app, here's what I got:
from scrapy.crawler import CrawlerProcess
from myproject.spiders import MySpider
from scrapy.utils.project import get_project_settings

os.environ['SCRAPY_SETTINGS_MODULE'] = 'myproject.my_settings_module'
scrapy_settings = get_project_settings()
scrapy_settings.set('CUSTOM_PARAM', custom_vaule)
scrapy_settings.set('ITEM_PIPELINES', {})  # don't write jsons or anything like that
scrapy_settings.set('DOWNLOADER_MIDDLEWARES', {
   'myproject.middlewares.SomeMiddleware': 100,
})
process = CrawlerProcess(scrapy_settings)
process.crawl(MySpider, start_urls=start_urls)
process.start()

A: This is actually really simple!
from mypackage.spiders import MySpider
from scrapy.crawler import CrawlerProcess

results = []

class MyPipeline(object):
    """ A custom pipeline that stores scrape results in 'results'"""
    def process_item(self, item, spider):
        results.append(dict(item))

process = CrawlerProcess({
    # An example of a custom setting
    'USER_AGENT': 'Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)',
    'ITEM_PIPELINES': {'__main__.MyPipeline': 1},   # Hooking in our custom pipline above
})

start_urls=[
    'http://example.com/page1',
    'http://example.com/page2',
]
process.crawl(MySpider, start_urls=start_urls)
process.start() # the script will block here until the crawling is finished

# Do something with the results
print results

A:
At first I thought scrapyd was made for this, but after reading the doc, it seems that it's more a daemon able to manage 'packaged spiders', aka 'scrapy eggs'; and that all the settings (start_urls , allowed_domains, settings ) must still be hardcoded in the 'scrapy egg' itself ; so it doesn't look like a solution to my question, unless I missed something.

I don't agree to the above statement, start_urls need not be hard-coded they can be dynamically passed to the class, you should be able to pass it as an argument like this
http://localhost:6800/schedule.json -d project=myproject -d spider=somespider -d setting=DOWNLOAD_DELAY=2 -d arg1=val1

Or you should be able to retrieve the URLs from a database or a file. I get it from a database like this
class WikipediaSpider(BaseSpider):
    name = 'wikipedia'
    allowed_domains = ['wikipedia.com']
    start_urls = []

    def __init__(self, name=None, url=None, **kwargs):
        item = MovieItem()
        item['spider'] = self.name
        # You can pass a specific url to retrieve
        if url:
            if name is not None:
                self.name = name
            elif not getattr(self, 'name', None):
                raise ValueError("%s must have a name" % type(self).__name__)
            self.__dict__.update(kwargs)
            self.start_urls = [url]
        else:
            # If there is no specific URL get it from Database
            wikiliks = # < -- CODE TO RETRIEVE THE LINKS FROM DB -->
            if wikiliks == None:
                print "**************************************"
                print "No Links to Query"
                print "**************************************"
                return None

            for link in wikiliks:
                # SOME PROCESSING ON THE LINK GOES HERE
                self.start_urls.append(urllib.unquote_plus(link[0]))

    def parse(self, response):
        hxs = HtmlXPathSelector(response)
        # Remaining parse code goes here

A: I think you need to look at this
http://django-dynamic-scraper.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
This does somewhat similar what you want. It also uses the celery of task sheduling.
You can see the code to have a look what he is doing. I think it will be easy if you modify his code to do what you want
It also has good docs on how to setup the interface with django

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Shining a Light on Mental Health – An Interview with Celia Painter and Abbie Krieble
Two resourceful and resilient young women have used their life experiences to create an important resource which places a spotlight on youth mental health.
When Life Gives You Lemons book cover
Celia Painter and Abbie Krieble, both 19 years, became friends in high school when they each faced issues with depression. Their book 'When Life Gives You Lemons' is currently sitting on the Compass Seminars NZ bestseller list.
"I knew Abbie had struggled with her mental health during Year 11, and when things started to go bad for me near the end of Year 12, Abbie was one of the main people who stepped in to help. From there, we became good friends," says Celia.
Their motivation for creating their book, 'When Life Gives You Lemons' came from slightly different but equally important places. Abbie's primary motivation was her determination to tackle the stigma associated with mental illness, while Celia wanted to create a resource that would help deal with the difficult emotions that both she and others were experiencing. The format for their book resulted from their decision to tap into their creativity as a way of processing their illnesses.
"One of my biggest things about mental illness is its stigma. A big goal for me was to release a book and be completely open and honest about what we had been through. I wanted to make a statement that it's never anything to be ashamed of and putting my name behind a book that addressed that stigma was a huge motivation for me," says Abbie.
"My experience with depression included feeling very isolated from people around me. One of the main things I felt was that no-one understood what I was going through which was quite difficult to deal with. I was drawing out these emotions in my art and found it quite a therapeutic process. From there, I started to wonder what it would be like to have a resource which dealt with the difficult feelings I was having. Abbie was thinking the same thing, so we thought that if my drawings were helping me, maybe they could also benefit other people," says Celia.
L-R: Celia Painter and Abbie Krieble
The young women recognised that a gap existed in terms of a having a resource that was created by youth, for youth.
"Having a resource guide written by young people who have first-hand experience in mental health is positive. The majority of resources are written by health professionals with no personal experience so being able to offer a raw account of the nature of mental illness is definitely a positive," says Abbie.
"I hope one of the positives for young people accessing our book will be that they feel their experiences and feelings are valid, and are therefore more able to talk about them. Also, by bringing up these issues in our book, I hope young people will feel less isolated and that their problems have not been forgotten," says Celia.
The friends received support from the Ministry of Youth Development's Youth Enterprise Fund which helped them to self-publish and launch the book.
"The Youth Enterprise Fund was essential in getting our book off the ground. It has meant we could pay for our book launch, as well as several print runs. This has helped us with our main aim of getting our book to those who need it. Because we are self-publishing, there are a lot of expenses, so the Fund has been incredibly beneficial," says Celia.
These remarkable young women are attending Victoria University and living life to the full; Abbie is studying law and a Bachelor of Arts, while Celia is undertaking a Bachelor of Arts. They're both exploring the 'what next' where their book is concerned – whether that's a revamp on the current book or something completely new. One thing's for sure, it will be worth reading.
'When Life Gives You Lemons' is available for purchase on http://createbooks.co.nz and on Amazon. If you want to get in touch with Celia or Abbie, they're happy to be contacted via email.
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