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Tag: The Echoing Green
The Echoing Green – Defend Your Joy – 1994
Named after a poem by William Blake, The Echoing Green is a pop/synth/techno band that made great inroads into the world of Christian dance music and electronica with a decidedly more commercial and pop approach. That to say that band leader Joey Belville knew how to write a pop song and infuse it with modern technology without losing the song amongst the computers and synthesizers. The genre has also been noted for highly sexual and depressing themes. But Belville was one of the most positive songwriters in any genre, heavily influenced by his faith and the joy it creates. The purpose of this album was a call for christian to defend the gift of joy they are given and to walk by the Spirit. These same theme repeat over and over on this wonderful project. I was a sales rep for Frontline/Diamante in the 90's and for a short while they needed someone to cover the New Mexico area for the company. It was a quick flight from LA to Albuquerque, so I added it to my territory. My first appointment was with some kid named Joey who knew everything about Christian music. I remember pitching him this album and he lit up and ordered a truck load. He saw the shock on my face and started to laugh – something he often would do. Laugh that is. I did not know that he was the same Joey that is the Joey of The Echoing Green. He remained one of my favorite accounts not because of his music knowledge or large orders, but because Bevlille has an infectious and joyful personality and it clearly permeates the music he creates. Even the melodies are upbeat with a clearly positive feel. 2nd Chance deals with God's grace and forgiveness despite our failings and our penchant for being the prodigal.. Defend Your Joy, a Depeche Mode like tune, is a call to Christians to stand up for truth and not to let the world take their joy away. Riki Michele makes an uncredited appearance on the chorus. In every cutting edge genre someone will come along and claim the mantle of taking it to the masses by making it more palatable and accessible. The Echoing Green does just that with this release as melody remains front and center and the song remains the key.
Contributor David Lowman – https://ccms500bestalbums.wordpress.com/
1 – Ocean Chorus – 1:21
2 – 2nd Chance – 4:10
3 – Son In My Eyes – 4:21
4 – Terra Firma (Stand) – 4:56
5 – Enter Love – 4:18
6 – Defend Your Joy – 4:24
7 – Pray – 5:08
8 – Brand New Day – 3:29
9 – Arrival – 3:53
10 – Stay Awake – 4:21
11 – Deep Inside Your Heart (Remyx) – 4:34
12 – Terra Firma (Stand) (Remyx) – 6:17
Art Direction – MSB, Thom Roy Backing Vocals [Uncredited] – Riki Michele Cover, Illustration – Chris Howland, Kristy Anderberg Design – Kristy Anderberg Engineer – Drew Aldridge Executive-Producer – Michael Sean Black Mastered By – Doug Doyle Mixed By – Drew Aldridge (tracks: 1, 3 to 5, 10), MSB (tracks: 2, 6 to 9), Thom Roy (tracks: 2, 6 to 9)
Mixed By [Assistance] – Joey B* (tracks: 1, 3 to 5, 10)
Photography – David Dobson
Producer – Joey Belville, Ronnie Martin
Written-By – Joey Belville (tracks: 1 to 6, 8 to 12)
Phonographic Copyright (p) – Myx Records
Copyright (c) – Myx Records
Distributed By – Diamante Distribution
CD Case Front
CD Case Back
Author David LowmanPosted on April 27, 2021 April 15, 2021 Categories AlbumsTags 1994, The Echoing GreenLeave a comment on The Echoing Green – Defend Your Joy – 1994
Various – Sweet Family Music – A Tribute To Stryper – 1996
This project appears to have been spearheaded by Alex Parker who owned Flying Tart Records. The publishing rights are held by Sweet Family Music which is in some way owned by Stryper themselves. It is a collection of alternate versions of Stryper songs by a variety of bands in 1996. At times the album almost seems to mock Stryper and if I was a Stryper member I don't think I would have thought much of this album. The album also has NO flow and has a huge variation in style and quality. There's Metal, Punk, Grunge, and even Techno sounds. Reading on the internet I see that this album was not well received by Stryper fans and quite frankly I can't blame them. I'm not a huge Stryper fan but I have to sympathize with their fans. This album just really wasn't that good an idea and the execution/quality just isn't there. That said there are a couple of good tracks on the album but I'll leave it to you to listen to it and pick them out.
1 – Cell Dweller – The Abyss – 2:01
2 – Steve Hindalong – To Hell With The Devil – 3:33
3 – Morella's Forest – Calling On You – 4:14
4 – Klank – The Way – 3:51
5 – Cricket – Makes Me Wanna Sing – 3:03
6 – Havalina Rail Co. – Always There For You – 5:51
7 – Dinner Mint – All For One – 4:02
8 – Argyle Park – Lonely (Two-Timing Mix) – 5:08
9 – Grammatrain – More Than A Man – 4:45
10 – Combat Chuck – You Know What To Do – 3:20
11 – Ghoti Hook – First Love – 3:12
12 – Echoing Green – You Won't Be Lonely – 3:42
13 – The Blamed – Soldiers Under Command – 5:26
14 – Aleixa – Makes Me Wanna… – 3:37
15 – Joe Christmas – (Waiting For) A Love That's Real – 3:53
16 – Fluffy Featuring Ralph Melish – Honestly – 5:23
17 – Marriage Is Madness – Free – 3:50
18 – Unknown Artist – Outro – 0:39
Concept By [Conceived By], Compiled By – Alex Parker
Design Concept [Cover And Artwork Concept] – Alex Parker
Executive-Producer [Of Sorts] – Alex Parker
Layout, Design – Craig A. Mason
Mastered By – Buddy Miller
Recorded At – Circle Studio
Mixed At – Circle Studio
Recorded At – Broadway Production Studios
Recorded At – Assembly Line Studios
Recorded At – Secret Studios
Mixed At – Secret Studios
Published By – Sweet Family Music
Published By – Stryper Music
Published By – Amgine Music
Published By – Sir Oz Music
Phonographic Copyright (p) – Flying Tart Records
Copyright (c) – Flying Tart Records
Manufactured By – Liquid Disc Records
Distributed By – Liquid Disc Records
Author Ray MansfieldPosted on April 20, 2021 April 12, 2021 Categories AlbumsTags Aleixa, Argyle Park, Cell Dweller, Combat Chuck, Cricket, Dinner Mint, Fluffy, Ghoti Hook, Grammatrain, Havalina Rail Co., Joe Christmas, Klank, Marriage Is Madness, Morella's Forest, Steve Hindalong, Stryper, The Blamed, The Echoing GreenLeave a comment on Various – Sweet Family Music – A Tribute To Stryper – 1996


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Q: JsonIgnore not working I am trying to make it so these properties don't get serialized, but for some reason no matter what I do they are still getting serialized and sent down to the client. I have tried using just @JsonIgnoreProperties({"doBefore","doAfter","doAfterComplete"}), I have tried using just @JsonIgnore on the getters, and I have tried both together and it doesn't seem to make a difference. Here's what my class looks like:
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It works for me with Jersey/Jackson. What jaxrs framework are you using?
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As part of the government's policy on protecting marine biodiversity, the Department of the Environment today began work on installing tide pools developed by ECOncrete® in the Port of Fontvieille.
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Fact or Fiction: The Twins Way Didn't Work for Matt Shoemaker
By Matthew Lenz,
August 2, 2021 in Twins Daily Front Page News
Matthew Lenz
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Twitter: Lenzy2108
Recently, Matt Shoemaker said, "The Twins wanted to get more out of me in spring training...but unfortunately, it failed miserably." Is there legitimacy in his claim, or is this just a struggling player looking to place blame elsewhere? I've investigated his career tendencies to answer this question.
In the article written by Dean Spiros of the Pioneer Press, Shoemaker says he is now pitching "the opposite of how the Twins wanted [him] to pitch." Perhaps this is why in 20 innings with the St. Paul Saints, he has a 1.80/3.82 ERA/FIP with improved strikeout and walk rates compared to the 60 1/3 innings he pitched with the Twins. Although 20 innings is a small sample, he's also keeping opposing hitters in the ballpark, which was a massive problem in his time with the Twins, where he has the third-highest home run per nine innings rate among all pitchers who have thrown 60 or more innings.
In fairness to Shoemaker, he didn't completely trash the Twins and shouldered some of the blame by saying that "[he] could have said no." He also hopes to be back with the big league club at some point by saying, "I really like the Twins organization," he said. "The guys up top, the staff, that's where it's tough…." Truthfully, I don't think there is anything wrong with what Shoemaker said and how he said it. I believe that some of the headlines generated from these quotes made Shoemaker out to be the bad guy when in reality, he was taking some responsibility for his struggles.
I'm not here to debate the semantics of what was said and how the media and fans interpreted it. But we can look into his claims that the Twins asked him to make adjustments that ultimately lead to him getting DFA'd, unclaimed, and assigned to the St. Paul Saints on July 1st.
Pre-Twins Tendencies
Before coming to the Twins, Matt Shoemaker had thrown more than 600 innings with a 3.86/4.03 ERA/FIP, 3.7 K/BB, and a 1.3 HR/9 over eight injury-riddled seasons. He finished second in Rookie of the Year voting in 2014 and had an excellent 2016 season, but since then, he hasn't thrown 80 innings in a season due to various injuries to his arm, knee, and shoulder. The Twins were undoubtedly taking a risk on him, but most assumed that he would be a suitable piece for the back end of a rotation that had World Series hopes as long as he's healthy. Even the biggest naysayer couldn't have predicted the season that Shoemaker ended up having. Even Jeremy Maschino, who has no affiliation to the Twins or Shoemaker, was optimistic about the signing.
In the aforementioned Pioneer Press article, Shoemaker claims that he's had success when he works up and down in the strike zone with changing speeds. Being that he's been oft-injured from 2017 to 2020, I decided to go back to his last full season in 2016, which also happens to be the most successful season of his career.
Reviewing his Statcast Pitch Arsenal on Baseball Savant in that season, you can see that he'd throw his four-seam fastball and sinker up in the zone while Shoemaker threw his change-up and slider down in the zone. Quick note: depending on the year and the source, his change-up can also be classified as a split-finger. That change-up/split-finger, in particular, was about eight miles per hour slower than his four-seam with significantly more vertical movement and, according to Brooks Baseball, hitters slugged just .286 off of the pitch in 2016. These tendencies remained consistent when I looked at his career from 2013 to 2020 and seemingly aligned with what he said in the article. So what does "the opposite" of those tendencies look like for Shoemaker?
2021 Tendencies with the Twins
Right away, I'll again point out that what was classified as a "change-up" in 2016 was re-classified as a split-finger in 2017 and every year since. You can also see pretty quickly that Shoemaker did seem to adjust to the "Twins way" by relying more heavily on his slider in 2021 (thrown 24.5-percent of the time) than throughout his entire career (16.5-percent). That change may be what Shoemaker is referring to, which hitters have slugged .484 before the 2021 season. This year hitters are slugging .507 off his slider while his split-finger is still his most effective pitch with an opponent slugging percentage of .392. That said, I think Shoemaker needs to take a little more responsibility than saying, "I could have said no."
Despite the increase in slider usage, his fastball, sinker, and split-finger tendencies are primarily in line with what he had done throughout his career. He throws his fastball higher in the zone coupled with his split-finger down in the zone, although his sinker heat map appears to be a little more erratic. In general, all of his heat maps are more erratic than those from his 2016, which is where I think he needs to take some responsibility for his struggles. Moreover, he may disagree with the pitch calling, but I can't imagine that the Twins were asking you to throw 92 mile per hour fastballs down the heart of the plate.
There is plenty of blame to share here. It's not all on the Twins, and it's not all on Matt Shoemaker. I think the Twins are at fault for asking Shoemaker to increase usage on the least effective pitch in his arsenal. As Shoemaker suggested in the article, what might work for one guy isn't necessarily going to work for the next guy. What's concerning to me is that his career numbers suggested that, yet the Twins went ahead with their heavy slider approach anyway. At the same time, it's clear that Shoemaker isn't as effective with his pitches as he was pre-injuries. Is that something that will improve as he gets more innings under his belt or something that can be fixed with a stint in the Minors? Time will tell, and now that the trade deadline has come and gone, I think it's only a matter of time before we see Shoemaker back in a Twins uniform.
What were your thoughts on Shoemaker's claims? Were they legit or just a disgruntled player failing to own up to his struggles?
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Shoemaker was never good, but it's fair to say he has never been this bad.
When you are a professional, it is expected for you to speak up if someone is trying to make you do something you know is wrong for you. He learned that ultimately he is responsible for his work, not the people yapping in his ear. He's the one who lost his job.
This was just a dumb signing for the Twins. Coaching him like he was a rookie wasn't the first mistake. I would like to see him pitch again for the Twins this year, as I'm really curious about what would happen.
DocBauer, Twins33, LastOnePicked and 1 other
None of us have enough first hand knowledge to know the real story. But thanks for all the information, Matt.
What concerns me is whether or not the Twins are trying to get all pitchers to focus on some of the same things, ie,, throw X pitch high in the zone, throw more sliders, etc. Every pitcher is different, would expect the best staff would be one that gets the most out of each pitcher based on his individual strengths.
mikelink45, Melissa, Mark G and 12 others
I know the Twins (and much of the league) love their high spin sliders, but if they're "forcing" pitchers who don't have effective sliders to throw them more I'm very concerned. So if we assume the change Shoemaker is mad about is the Twins having him throw his slider more, then it seems to me the problem started as a Twins problem and morphed to a Shoemaker problem as his struggles continued.
At some point when you're getting you brains bashed in on the mound and it's the slider getting smashed every time stop throwing your slider (Twins analytic team should've been noticing these numbers, too, and that concerns me). Maybe the game plan was to use the slider more coming in, but while you're on the mound you have the power to shake off the catcher. As you watch your career circle the drain it's on you to throw the pitches you think are going to save your career.
So I agree it's a Twins and Shoemaker problem. I don't think he was out of line with anything he said, and he definitely should have said "no" before he ended up back in AAA with no other team wanting him.
Mark G, Mike Sixel, wsnydes and 9 others
LastOnePicked
Excellent write-up, Matthew. Well-researched and fair-minded. A home run.
I think this story hit some of us hard because it fits one of the fear narratives we have about this organization under Falvey/Levine and Baldelli/Johnson - that they've got a dogmatic approach, they think they're the smartest people in baseball, and they pay more attention to numbers than to players.
Plus, us fans have been hit hard by the reality that the team we had dreamed of seeing win a championship is now breaking apart and sinking to the bottom of MLB. "We had a 100-win pace ballclub for two years and all I got was this lousy AL Central Division Title T-Shirt."
But, as some cooler heads have posted here, it is possible that the Twins can adjust quickly. It is possible that some of the problems are internal, but some are maybe from the new players themselves and some are just a matter of terrible luck with regard to injury and recovery. And as you note here, in the case of Shoemaker, maybe it's all three.
That said, the Twins better be very open to criticism. They've traded away top players, they've given away new young stars for absolutely nothing, and, outside of Cruz, their FA signings performed terribly. They've got a lot of fair criticism coming this offseason - from fans and from players within the organization. Time to listen and to learn some hard lessons now.
Mark G, DocBauer, ToddlerHarmon and 13 others
Twitter: sixelmike
Both..... My guess is that he wasn't good this year, and the Twins didn't help matters. I don't think that means the Twins don't know what they are doing, just that they were wrong in this case. That's going to happen. The key is being right more often than wrong.
wsnydes, D.C Twins, Unwinder and 6 others
If the Twins are going to continue o sign "older" pitchers with a track record of some success then its on the Twins AND that player to follow thru on that players strengths that gave him that record of success. I don't know what transpired with Shoe but he was a pretty decent pitcher before coming to the Twins, and since going down to AAA he's looked good. Is it because lower level or because he's pitching his way?
chpettit19, Richard Swerdlick, DocBauer and 2 others
34 minutes ago, Dodecahedron said:
I don't agree that he was never good. His career numbers were better than Berríos coming into this season. Health was an issue for him from 2017-2020 but when he was healthy he was good.
I want to see him back here too. Very curious to see his pitch usage and effectiveness, or lack thereof.
Squirrel, jun, VivaBomboRivera! and 2 others
Herschel78
The only way Shoemaker was misused was by not pulling sooner when it was apparent he was not pitching well.
For example in a start against KC he allowed 9 runs in 1/3rd of an inning and in a relief appearance against the White Sox, 8 runs in 2.2 innings.
A manager needs to protect players from this level of failure by pulling them from the game sooner.
rationalfan
Certainly part of the issue is usage rate of the slider. The other part at least as important (and perhaps more important) is location. Notice his change/split had more accuracy and purpose previously with two hot locations at the knees and lower/left quadrant whereas now his location is middle thigh-high...that's a problem. His sinker used to be outer half and now it middle and all over the place...also a problem. It's possible that the slider usage took him out of his comfort zone, hurt his confidence and impacted location of other pitches. We can hope that's the case so that now he'll not only reduce usage of the slider, but pitch more effectively overall.
A topic I look forward to post-Berrios trade is the building of a playoff-caliber rotation. I think it's smart to sign for 1 year veterans with rebound potential or injury prone to compete for starts with young guys for the #4/#5 spots in the rotation. However we gotta have 3 spots locked in like we did to start this season. If the FO thinks we're at least a couple of years out then do they let Pineda walk and just promote all the top prospects next year? If things are looking good for a couple of them the Twins then get active after the 2023 season? If that's the case why even keep Maeda - except to prevent STH'ers like me from bailing? Perhaps they think this is a "correction" rather than a recession for the team and instead got very good return on a pitcher they weren't going to be able to sign and will be aggressive in the FA market after the 2022 season to contend in 2023.
DocBauer and Dman
I am not sure what to think. Likely some truth to both sides. In the recent past the Twins seemed to have some success getting a little more out of relievers they picked up from the garbage pile and made them better thinking Harper and Wisler. It seemed like maybe they helped Maeda and Pineda but they were always pretty good pitchers before they came over. Hill and Baily didn't look that great with us granted coming back from injury and obviously Colome, Happ and Shoemaker only got worse once with the Twins. It certainly doesn't seem like this is the place to become a better pitcher at the MLB level. At least looking at the latest data that I can tell.
Yeah Berrios was home grown and several of my examples are guys that are past their prime and likely due for regression but still the fact remains they didn't squeeze anything extra out of them and most guys got worse not better. I don't think this is just a Twins issue though as lot's of players stats fluctuate year to year often due to injury of just plain getting older and less effective. However, teams that do a better job like Tampa end up in better positions. Even Tampa can't fix every guy that comes through their system but they seem better than maybe any other team in the league at getting the most out of guys that come through IMO.
I do still feel like the Twins have improved their pitching development in the minors. You look at other teams affiliates and we are generally getting better pitching out of our teams. Pitching talent is bubbling up to AA and AAA whether it tranlates to MLB is another story but it looks good to this point to me.
Obviously the Twins wanted Shoemaker to do things he wasn't comfortable doing. That isn't always a bad thing as it can sometimes lead to untapped potential but trying to teach an old dog new tricks doesn't generally work out well. AAA is way different than MLB so his stats there don't mean too much to me. The one thing I did notice the few times I did watch SHoemaker on MLB gameday app is that he often would get 0-2 or 1-2 and then throw something right down the middle of the plate that generally got crushed. Saw the same behavior from Colome from time to time. I get that you have to throw strikes to get guys out but why not work the corners more when ahead like that?
Anyway like I said probably truth to both sides but let's face it Shoe was never going to be a top of the line pitcher. He was always 5th starter material at best. I think it is time for both sides to move on. Glad he is pitching well and maybe he can get a gig somewhere else or maybe he can excel out of the pen hard to say. He just doesn't have anything that looks better than the young number 5's we have already to me though.
DocBauer and roger
mikelink45
I fear our sabremetric FO and manager and coaches all feel that they know more than anyone else. Old school can be mixed with new and pitchers can be left to do what they feel best with. I have less than good expectations with this leadership group and I hope I am proven wrong.
karcherd and Mark G
I think Shoe took responsibility merely by taking the AAA assignment and, at the same time, is attempting to show the Twins that he can still pitch, just not their way. A lot of players would have left and signed a minor league contract with another team, then publicly blamed the team they left once they settled back into a groove. He stuck it out here, and would actually like to pitch again; to me that is taking responsibility as well as explaining why it didn't work out. You know, sometimes the fans deserve to hear these things; they are the ones paying to see the stuff we all saw and they wonder why it all went south. Good luck, Shoe, and don't ever again let a computer tell you how to play baseball.
Dman, mikelink45, jun and 2 others
Good analysis.
I actually like that Shoemaker spoke up; seeing former Twins go on to success elsewhere always makes me wish we had local reporters who'd go and ask, "What has changed?"
But in this case, Shoemaker was pretty vague and it didn't make a whole lot of sense. As Matthew's article says, it's doubtful the Twins told Shoemaker to groove his fastballs down the middle of the plate, which is clearly his main issue. My guess is if there's an issue, it's the sequencing of pitches that he didn't like. His slider and four-seamer usage is up and his sinker usage is down. This would track too as they cut Martin Perez's sinker usage in half, Kyle Gibson's sinker usage dropped in favor of more four-seamers when the new front office took over and JA Happ's usage of those pitches saw similar changes as well.
Of course, if the front office doesn't prefer sinkerballers, perhaps it would be more prudent to not sign them, instead of signing them and then asking them to change?
mikelink45, Dman, jun and 5 others
AceWrigley
Interesting stuff. Lets hope he works it out and makes his way back to the major league roster and pitches well, then we can say "The Shoe" fits. ?
Dman, TouchEmAllGuy, Mark G and 2 others
Lot of unknowns here, and I wouldn't expect much information from the twins staff on this issue (there's really no winning for them: if they say "look we didn't tell him to throw meatballs down the heart of the plate and that's what killed him" then they're going to get whacked for bashing a player, and if they say "we wanted to tweak his slider and have him throw it a bit more and he didn't change how he threw it all" then it's a he said/he said where they're talking past each other, etc).
Like most, I'd say it looks like there's some shared blame. I'd weight it slightly more on Shoemaker: a) he's a veteran, b) if he didn't like the sequencing/selection it's not like he couldn't shake it off, and c) the heat maps show the anecdotal impression of him grooving a sinker in the heart of the plate sure is born out on the stats. I also discount the AAA performance to some degree: if a veteran MLB starter can't dominate AAA hitters, then he's either injured or cooked...
DocBauer, Dman and twinkiesfan11
3 hours ago, roger said:
Absolutely agree. I was pretty surprised to see how much he was leaning on his slider being that it seemed to be his least effective pitch. Like you said, we don't know, but I'd imagine they thought they could re-work it and make it work. But like you said, what works for one pitcher isn't necessarily going to work for the next. Moreover, why did they never adjust?? It was clear it wasn't working.
DocBauer, Mark G and jun
Thegrin
Location: Ripon, CA
I was pleased to see Shumaker go, but I wouldn't mind if he came back and pitched well enough to be part of the rotation, or a reliable reliever. Wasn't it Corey Kluber who was sent back down to fix his problems? I don't expect Shumaker to react like Kluber, but it would be nice.
Come to think of it, Glen Perkins earned his share of headlines by complaining about the Twins and how they handled him, and that turned out OK.
Mark G, VivaBomboRivera! and Mike Sixel
DocSavage
Not all sliders are considered equal... the same as all fastballs are not considered equal... as a Major league ( any) pitcher you find out what works and use it.. as a team.. you job isn't to try to stick square pegs in round holes... and a little secret... The Rays Arms vary so much in what they throw.. its not like all their pitchers are slider heavy... and the final thought.. learn how to pitch.. and that starts with control... The throw it somewhere at the box mentality has ruined more pitchers than i can count... please teach them pitching not throwing... and if you don't know how to do that... get a different job..
Edited August 3, 2021 by DocSavage
I liked about every comment here because right or wrong the opinions are just smart!
I applaud Shoemaker for being open and honest and taking at least some responsibility for not performing. He should. But just being a realist, not every single pitcher, or player, "fits" with an organization. We've seen it time and time again. It's reality. The Twins have COMPLETELY revamped their milb system when it comes to treating pitchers and players as individuals and tailoring their developmental approach. And we've heard from current players and previous players in regard to the massive change within the system.
But I have NO PROBLEM saying Rocco, Johnson, scouts and the FO may have just made a mistake on a guy. They THOUGHT they had a really good plan for an experienced back end SP that would work. Sorry, s**t happens and you aren't always right. But then again, as Shoe states, he could have said no. And he has the right to also shake off signs. And shouldn't he be doing well at AAA as a healthy and experienced pitcher?
But have to admit I'm curious why he took the milb assignment instead of going elsewhere. Makes little sense to me unless NOBODY was knocking on his door.
IF the Twins think think this was bad communication and a mistake that can be rectified, I have no problem. IF Shoemaker really likes the organization, no problem. We need a couple veteran SP for 2022, which MIGHT include Pineda. But could Shoe, previously quality in his career when healthy, be an option? Please.
Shoemaker is trying to get a contract for 2022 and not really blaming anyone because he doesn't want to rock the boat. He's at AAA FOR THE MOMENT, because he's a good guy and provides IP. He's probably gone a week from now due to additions and promotions.
Over and done, it was a really smart flier for a talented but frequently injured SP that just didn't fit.
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22 hours ago, Matthew Lenz said:
I don't agree that he was never good. His career numbers were better than Berríos coming into this season.
The only thing I can say to this is, you are looking at the wrong numbers. There is more than adequate proof in the numbers that Shoemaker would not make most teams as a starter. My thoughts to his signing was, oh well, he'll be cut by the end of spring training or he will work from the bullpen as the long reliever. Unfortunately....
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I hope the Twins take a seriously internal look at themselves and find the truth in what he has said.
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Hopefully this is a "educational moment" for Wes Johnson and the FO. The Rays way, meaning leaning into the variety of strengths of a pitching staff and acquiring as much variety as possible, seems like a better approach than trying to fit every pitcher into the same mould.
The former regime also had a "fit everyone to the same mould" approach and we all got frustrated with that.
I look forward to seeing how management responds to this kind of failure and myopia going forward.
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He has been released per Dick Bremer on tonight's telecast.
11 hours ago, Dodecahedron said:
What numbers am I looking at? Summary below is from 2013 (Shoemaker's first year) through 2020. The only thing that Berrios clearly has over Shoemaker is durability, otherwise they are similar or Shoemaker is better in nearly every statistical category. I understand durability is important, and that's probably why you weren't impressed with his signing, but I don't see how you can argue that Berrios had better numbers.
That's the problem. Berrios's first year is his worst. Shoemaker's first year is his best.
Shoemaker once performed as a #3 pitcher. This last occurred in 2016. For some perspective, in 2016, Obama was President, Abe Vigoda was still alive, and the last VCR rolled off the production line.
I'm surprised so many people judged Shoemaker based on what he did half a decade ago, and continue to do so. It took some people less than a minute to look at Shoemaker's numbers and see a train wreck. There is a reason Shoemaker was still available when he was, and it's the same reason he signed for only $2M. Do you think Berrios is going to sign for $2M?
On 8/4/2021 at 9:36 AM, Dodecahedron said:
First it was "he was never good" and now it's "once performed as a #3" which is still undervaluing his 2013-2016.
First it was "you are looking at the wrong numbers" and now it's "well that's because of the first half of his career".
What's funny is, by arguing how "bad" (read: injured) Shoemaker has been in the last half decade, you're effectively pointing out how unimpressive Berrios has been considering Shoemaker's career numbers are better. He's had five "bad" seasons and STILL had better numbers coming into 2021. Yikes.
Anyway, kudos to you on foreseeing the 8+ ERA when, even in his "bad" years he never had an ERA above 5. You are wiser than me!
All of what I said is correct. Sorry for engaging with you, I'll let you get back at it!
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Update: David Morris - Bluegrass Today has Intrepid CD one of his top 6 CDs of 2012 !!!
Says David: "Jim Hurst: Intrepid. "Three Hands" Hurst (he can't possibly play that way with just two) is, for my money, right up there with Tony Rice as bluegrass guitar royalty. All the evidence needed to back up that statement is right here on this gem of an album. It's mostly Jim and his guitar, and occasionally his voice. Noting else is needed."
FEATURE REVIEW!
February 27, 2012 - David Morris - Bluegrass Today
When I met Jim Hurst for the first time last summer, I was almost surprised to discover he has just two hands. He sure plays guitar like he has a couple of extras, using a blend of flat picking and finger picking to play bass lines, melody lines and support lines all at once.
That how-does-one-guy-play-that approach is on display throughout Jim's new self-produced CD, Intrepid. For 12 of the 13 songs, it's just him – one voice and one guitar – laying it on the line. "It's kind of like a courageous leap of faith," he told me the other day.
The stripped down production results in music that's easy to listen to, but that makes you think without being preachy. Every time I play these songs, I "see" myself sitting in the dark, in front of a roaring fire, at my favorite cabin – even when it's the middle of the day and I'm stuck in the middle of the city a couple of hundred miles away. That's some powerful stuff.
September 06, 2012 - Shawndra Russell - Savannah Morning News - Savannah Now.com
"2010 marked a year of note for Jim Hurst. After playing for over two decades in bands or duets, he finally decided it was time to "express the musical efforts of Jim Hurst, for Jim Hurst ... for better or worse."
"I don't know why my desire to be loyal and the best 'team' player I could be was strong enough to delay my own personal musical efforts," he says, "but it did."
Yet Hurst cherishes those experiences playing with award-winning artists like Holly Dunn, Missy Raines, Trisha Yearwood, Sara Evans, Claire Lynch and Don Henley, as well as learning guitar techniques from greats like Tony Rice, Doc Watson, George Shuffler and Clarence White — and the finger-style playing of Merle Travis, Chet Atkins and Jerry Reed.
March 11, 2012 -Walter Tunis - Lexington Herald Leader - LexGo.com
Jim Hurst did not title his new album Intrepid on a whim. As one of bluegrass music's most respected guitarists, he has journeyed in and out of string music traditions, welcoming any artistic challenge that came before him.
"It really reveals who I am in my solo shows," Hurst said. "A lot of promoters and event producers, they don't know what to expect unless you can hand them something that can provide a little perspective. I wanted the album to be as reflective as possible of my live solo show.
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November 01, 2007 - David Baxter - Issue #72 Nov-Dec 2007 - "A Box of Chocolates" review No Depression Magazine (print)
A multiple-IBMA award winner and long time member of Claire Lynch's touring band, Jim Hurst is one of the most versatile acoustic guitar players on the contemporary bluegrass circuit. Hurst augments his flatpicking with hints of Merle Travis, and Jerry Reed, bending and sliding until his notes take on an almost vocal quality.
As the title implies, A Box Of Chocolates is a sampler, the perfect showcase for Hurst's versatility. There's newgrass ("Chocolate Chaise Lounge"), gypsy swing ("Mando Bounce"), and swampy funk ("C5 A La Mode"). In addition to those solid originals, Hurst scats his way through "Nine Pound Hammer" and shows delicate restraint on the traditional "Mary Of The Wild Moor".
Hurst's list of guests is long and impressive – Sam Bush, Mark Schatz, Scott Vestal, Michael Cleveland, Viktor Krauss – and that barely scratches the surface.
Still, the most powerful moments on this album simply involve Hurst alone with his guitar.
December 01, 2002 - David McCarty - December 2002 No. 120 - Second Son review Acoustic Guitar Magazine (print)
Jim Hurst's sophomore solo album is a remarkably well-rounded disc filled with great singing, wonderful renditions of classic and contemporary tunes, and lots of hot picking by some of Nashville's bluegrass elite. Hurst was the International Bluegrass Music Association's Guitarist of the Year in 2001, but the revelations on Second Son are his stirring baritone voice and soulful delivery, as heard on songs like "Big Iron" and "The Long Road." Flatpick fanatics will love his solo on "Lonesome Road Blues" and the fiery fretwork he dishes out on "Stafford's Stomp" backed by pals Missy Raines (bass), Stuart Duncan (fiddle), and Tim Stafford (guitar). Second Son proves that Hurst is first class in every area. (Pinecastle, www.pinecastle.com)
January 01, 2000 - Stephanie P. Ledgin - Open Window review SingOut! Magazine (print)
On Open Window, his first solo CD, Jim Hurst surrounds himself with the best. For starters, Raines, of course, is here; the two fit each others' styles like a matched set of sterling silver and fine china – simply elegant. Fred Carpenter provides some sharp, driving fiddle breaks, while the ever-tasteful Gene Wooten gives it up on the dobro and baritone harmonies on "17 Days." Hurst comes in not only on guitar but also on banjo on this number, an original composition. Hurst's guitar playing is showcased without flaw on his arrangement for solo guitar of Bill Monroe's "Wheel Hoss," not an easy feat for any lone instrument! He pulls it off and you'd swear you heard at least four other instruments playing. Hurst cites Jerry Reed as his "biggest influence" and hence his tribute, "Swamp Reed," a
heady instrumental with Raines on bass, Rob Ickes, dobro, and Sam Bush kicking out mandolin chops.
Always a pleasure to hear on contemporary recordings is a Louvin Brothers song. "My Baby's Gone" is a great one and the treatment Hurst gives it is picture perfect. Andrea Zonn contributes fiddle while Claire Lynch sings tenor to Hurst's lead and baritone. An original instrumental, "Alarm Clock," gets an interesting touch with Raymond McLain's unique banjo style, in which he occasionally strays from three-finger bluegrass rolls to throwing in a frail or two. Hurst lets it all hang out here, jazzing up the house with his excellent guitar playing. "Crazy Locomotion Blues," a Hurst
original co-written with Steve Hylton, is another prime example of why someone in Music City ought to grab this man and sign him to a major recording contract. His ability to put across a song effortlessly blends well with his rich, full country-style voice.
All-told, the entire CD contains a winning selection of numbers and appealing arrangements; six of the thirteen are originals by Hurst or co-written with Steve Hylton. More highlights are the swingy "This Old Guitar" from the pen of Jonathan Edwards, with its quiet hint of drums and Raines playing ever-so-tasteful bass. "A Minor Infraction," an original instrumental, is filled with interesting mandolin and guitar patterns and fills. Hurst and Raines showcase their duo appeal on "The Pearl of Pearl KY," an exquisite instrumental original. There is unbeatable depth to the gospel
"I Can Tell You The Time." Here Claire Lynch sings tenor, Michael McLain, baritone, Sheaton Feazell, bass, with Hurst singing lead, alto and playing spare guitar accompaniment. "Tall Pines" again shows off Hurst's bluegrass side on guitar and vocals with Vic Jordan offering up banjo, Keith Little playing mandolin, Bobby Hicks fiddling his smooth lines, Ben
Surratt donating baritone vocals and Raines rounding out on bass.
Don't try to pigeon-hole this recording into one genre; it's a heck of a great compilation of just what Jim Hurst and his
music are all about.
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KEEP ME AWAKE 4:08
LONG AND LONESOME OLD FREIGHT TRAIN 0:26
DAISIES FOR JUDY 3:37
NOT THE MAN I WAS / LOOKING GLASS CD 3:34
WALKING TO VICENZA 3:19
DEW ON THE MOUNTAIN 4:53
MODALIOUSNESS 2:52
I'M ON MY WAY BACK HOME TO YOU 4:17
MY OWN TRUE DARLIN' 3:51
SITTIN' ON TOP OF THE WORLD 4:15
THE MACHINE 3:32
FUNKY FLATFOOT 2:38
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YOUNG MR. CLARK 3:05
WHY DO YOU TREAT HIM LIKE YOU DO 3:57
I PICKED THE WILDWOOD FLOWER / LOOKING GLASS CD 2:51
THEY SAID / LOOKING GLASS CD 2:39
THE PREACHER AND THE BEAR / LOOKING GLASS CD 2:57
JUST ONE MAN / LOOKING GLASS CD 3:12
GADGET DADDY 2:19


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