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310 W Kaahumanu Ave
Kahului, HI 96732-1617
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Maui Community College is a learning-centered institution that provides affordable, high quality credit and non-credit educational opportunities to a diverse community of lifelong learners.
University of Hawaii Maui College serves 3,809 students (35% of students are full-time).
Minority enrollment is 75% of the student body (majority Asian), which is less than the state average of 87%.
University of Hawaii Maui College is the only community colleges within Maui County, HI.
The nearest community college to University of Hawaii Maui College is Kapiolani Community College (89.3 miles away).
The teacher population of 141 teachers has stayed relatively flat over five years.
University of Hawaii Maui College (HI) Community College Avg.
Institution Level Four or more years At least 2 but less than 4 years
Institution Control Public Public
Total Faculty 141 staff 129 staff
The student population of University of Hawaii Maui College has stayed relatively flat over five years.
The student:teacher ratio of 27:1 has stayed the same over five years.
The University of Hawaii Maui College diversity score of 0.76 is equal to the state average of 0.76. The school's diversity has stayed relatively flat over five years.
Total Enrollment 3,809 students 3,809 students
# Full-Time Students 1,325 students 1,325 students
# Part-Time Students 2,484 students 2,484 students
% Hawaiian
% Two or more races
% Non Resident races -
The public in-state tuition of $2,862 is more than the state average of $2,815. The in-state tuition has grown by 16% over four years.
The public out-state tuition of $7,710 is more than the state average of $7,663. The out-state tuition has declined by 20% over four years.
In-State Tuition Fees $2,862 $2,815
Out-State Tuition Fees $7,710 $7,663
% Students Receiving Some Financial Aid 75% 71%
Median Debt for Graduates $14,000 $7,750
Median Debt for Dropouts $9,500 $4,750
Seeking a higher education on Maui will lead you to the doorstep of this fine college, an integral part of the University of Hawaii system. Established in 1966 to serve the local island community, MCC has expanded its vision globally and graduated students from all walks of life. Maui Community College serves the educational needs of residents of the three islands comprising Maui County: Molokai, Lana'i, and Maui. The College encompasses 78 acres at the Kahului site. The student population numbered about 3,000 students in Fall 2004. MCC offers an AA in Liberal Arts and an AS in Nursing, Human Services, and Electronic and Computer Engineering Technology (ECET). These are 2-year programs. The student may then transfer to a 4-year program or institution. MCC will soon be offering on-site one 4-year baccalaureate degree in Applied Business and Information Technology (ABIT). MCC offers you academic excellence in an island setting. Whether your passion is for hiking through Hana waterfalls and Haleakala volcano trails, or studying the pros surfing Jaws and windsurfing Hookipa, at MCC you can be assured of a well-rounded educational experience, both in and out of the classroom. MCC networked faculty to terminals connected to a DEC VAX Computer and established the first higher education cable television channel delivering instruction to its tri-isle service area in 1983. By 1988, the college constructed a tri-isle interactive television system and completed its Ka'a'ike Instructional Telecommunications facility housing its television and audio studios, digital media and electronic and computer engineering technology labs, and seven interactive tv classrooms. The college additionally began a National Center of Excellence for High Performance Computing applying personal computer cluster solutions to problems requiring high speed processing.
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For Hawaii public community colleges, the average tuition is approximately $2,815 per year for in-state students and $7,663 for out-of-state students. For private community colleges, the average yearly tuition is approximately $16,950 per year. Read more about average community college tuition costs across the country.
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The William Morris Gallery is located in Walthamstow in north-east London and is easily accessible by public transport. We recommend that you walk, cycle or come by public transport if possible.
We are a 12-15 minute walk or a short bus ride from Walthamstow Central station on the Victoria Line and National Rail. The area is also well served by National Rail and buses.
Our full address is William Morris Gallery, Lloyd Park, Forest Road, London E17 4PP. View Google map.
Take the escalator from the platform and turn left at the top, taking the Selborne Road exit. Walk straight through the bus station, passing through a small linking road that takes you directly to the High Street. There is a Paddy Power betting shop on the right, and you will see a Nando's restaurant directly in front of you. Turn right on to the High Street, and then at the junction take a left on to Hoe street, past the Empire cinema. Walk along Hoe Street for about 10 minutes and you will come to Ruby Road. Turn left into Ruby Road and at the end you will see the William Morris Gallery, just inside the main entrance to Lloyd Park. The walk will take approximately 12-15 minutes.
From Walthamstow Central, take the exit for the bus station. You can get bus numbers 34, 97, 215, 275, or 357 to Bell Corner (5-6 minutes). Turn left into Forest Road and the Gallery is about 100 yards down on the right.
Take the train from London Liverpool Street Station (Chingford Line) to Walthamstow Central station (about 15 minutes). Come out of the station on to Selborne Road and look for The Goose pub. From The Goose turn left into Hoe Street, walk along Hoe Street for about 10 minutes and you will come to Ruby Road. Turn left into Ruby Road and at the end you will see the William Morris Gallery, just inside the main entrance to Lloyd Park. The walk will take approximately 12-15 minutes.
Cycle parking is available at the Gallery. See Transport for London's Cycle Journey Planner to help plan your route.
There is no other parking at the Gallery and parking in the local area is very limited. It is therefore advisable to come by public transport if at all possible. The Gallery is situated within a Controlled Parking Zone (CPZ). There is a small pay and display car park on Bedford Road, adjacent to the Gallery. However this is often busy.
There is a designated coach parking bay located in Forest Road between Hawthorne Road and the pedestrian crossing.


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Home Justiça Madeleine McCann McCann Portugal Videos The Mockumentary
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C4 Cutting Edge documentary - Madeleine was here
K: I did my check about 10.00 'clock and went in through the sliding patio doors and I just stood, actually and I thought, oh, all quiet, and to be honest, I might have been tempted to turn round then, but I just noticed that the door, the bedroom door where the three children were sleeping, was open much further than we'd left it. I went to close it to about here and then as I got to here, it suddenly slammed and then as I opened it, it was then that I just thought, I'll just look at the children and I could see S and A in the cot and then I was looking at M's bed which was here and it was dark and I was looking and I was thinking, is that M or is that the bedding. and I couldn't quite make her out. It sounds really stupid now, but at the time, I was thinking I didn't want to put the light on cos I didn't wanna wake them and literally, as I went back in, the curtains of the bedroom which were drawn,… were closed, … whoosh … It was like a gust of wind, kinda, just blew them open and cuddle cat was still there and her pink blanket was still there and then I knew straight away that she had, er, been taken, you know.
Voice over: It's now 2 years since MM was abducted while on holiday in Portugal. Her parents, K&G live near L with M's brother and sister, four year old twins, S&A.
G: We are a family, and we're a happy family, but we are not a complete family.
KM: I think we're far from normality. We're far from normality but we're closer than we were.
K is painting the names of the three children.
She asks the children what is the name of their sister. One of the children says the full name and the other child says the shortened version.
K: I honestly believe they're expecting her to come home, you know, one day soon. They are very much, well, when Madeleine comes back, we'll share our toys and, you know, A is wearing Madeleine's shoes. She'll say well these shoes won't fit M, now, so we'll have to take her and get her a bigger pair of shoes when she gets home. You know.
Voice over: K has given up her work as a GP and now stays at home with the twins.
K: A lot of the places that I go now ,I used to go with Madeleine as well, so there's little things that trigger, (mumble) like on the farm where we go quite a lot. You know, I can see Madeleine swinging on the rope in the hayloft. She was great, she was only three and she'd be like, you know, swinging backwards and forwards, you know. I can see her in the little, sort of, gypsy wagon that they had, asking me to come in and that's hard. You get memories and reality hits in again.
It's like kinda, of, um, tangible void, really.
Voice over: G has returned to work at GH, where he is a consultant cardiologist.
G: Given the indefinite nature of what we are going through, you have to, at some point, say, I'm going to go back.
Voice of Interviewer: Do you think you have both healed a bit.
G: Healed is a diffi…adapted, I think, is probably the right word. There's still, there's a scar, a deep, deep scar there, that's, kinda, knitted at the minute but you still think it might break or come loose and stitches (mumble) But, it is, er, definitely an er… adaptation. I think.
G: There'll always be a hope, you know, we're living with this carrot, that potentially she could come back and I think, that makes it more painful, that you don't know and that she's, she's, she's out there and separated from you It's less raw, erm, less painful on a day to day basis, erm, but, it's still pretty painful. (Sighs) Erm, it's different.
Voice over: The second anniversary of M's disappearance is approaching. K&G want to use the media attention to keep the search in the public's mind.
K: (in their study). It almost feels like the last, I guess, media opportunity. We really need to think about that, to get the right message out.
Voice over: (very briefly, showing part of fm (download poster page ). The M's are organising a series of events aimed at prompting fresh evidence, including a difficult trip back to the holiday resort.
Voice over continues: A national TV appearance in the States and perhaps, most crucially a visit to the world's leading child recovery expert. (shows E A). EA says we truly believe (shows the picture) this is what MM looks like today. Shows new image.
G: She's either out there or she's not and there's nothing to say that she's not out there alive. So it's simple, she's out there until proven otherwise.
Voice of Interviewer: Who actually is looking for M at the moment?
G: Er, hopefully, lots of people, er, in the general population, but in terms of an investigative strategy, then there's no law enforcement agency that is proactively doing anything. It's pretty amazing really. Er, when you think about, it's a very serious crime and, erm, we've got to do it.
G: We're not out making a fuss for the sake of it or to say, things were done badly or could have been done better. That's not what we're interested in. We're not interested in looking back. What we want to do is look forward.
Voice over: But there are two men still looking for Madeleine, ex-Detective Inspector DE is the senior Investigating Officer. He works alongside former Detective Sargeant A C. Both are now employed by the fm fund.
AC: …given a really good description and what I've done is, I've made arrangements to go and see him on Tuesday morning.
DE: I've inherited an investigation which is 18 months' old. It's a massive investigation.
AC: For me, it's quite simple, whether it be a high profile murder or any investigation. It's a jigsaw puzzle and it's just the case of putting little pieces in and that's what we're doing. You start at the beginning, you do the basics right and everything else comes together. and that's what, we, hopefully, we've done.
DE: One of the hypothesis would be, that it's the parents that have done it, and it goes without saying, that's looked at and I'm sure K&G understand that. If, we had any evidence that K&G were involved, we would hand it over to the authorities.
Voice of Interviewer:: and did you find anything?
DE: No, nothing, not a shred of evidence that they were involved.
AC: When I had the interview for the job, I made it quite clear that I would only take the job, if it was an independent investigation and if there's evidence against anybody, no matter who it is, that we give that evidence to the police.
Voice of interviewer: Do you work with different theories about what happened? Can you say what you think happened?
DE: Well, the abduction theory is the main one that we're focusing on. If a stranger kills a child or anyone for that matter, they almost, almost always dump the body within a very close proximity of the crime scene. Now this particular area around PdL has been systematically searched. The search was started on the night and continued for weeks and weeks and no body's been found, so that gives me hope.
Voice of Interviewer: What about if it was dumped in the sea? I mean that's what most ….
DE: That's always possible of course. But, again, the sea quite often, you know, gives up the bodies. But no bodies have been found. So, I think that abduction is the most likely motive. Most likely done by an individual on their own. Most likely, an individual who has close links with PdL, which is why we focused all our efforts really, or most of our efforts, certainly on PdL.
Voice over: Out of the hundreds of witnesses who came forward, only a handful are from the local Portuguese community. These are the people the investigators want to hear from so they plan to return to PdL and reconstruct key events surrounding M's disappearance. Hoping to provoke a response.
K: They used to come and just sit and get a haircut. (laughs). Seems hard to believe it's actually busier now then it was a year ago.
Voice of Interviewer:: Has the balance changed, because you're not working in paid work. You've worked for most of your adult life.
K: Women adore cooking and washing, anyway don't they? (laughs)
Voice of Interviewer: So, yes, that hasn't changed?
K: I don't think so. It's funny, cos, you know, going back a few years, if I hadn't been in paid work, I'd have probably felt, a bit guilty. But, now, what I'm doing is the most important job that I'll every have to do and I think my work is incredibly valuable.
Voice over: When the Portuguese police shelved the case last summer, they released 30,000 case files, K has spent the last six months going through every document.
K: The vast bulk of it was in Portuguese. So, we then, had to get it all translated, which probably cost us about £100,000. I don't believe anybody's got the motivation that I have and I was desperate to go through this myself, because I knew that I'd be going through it with a fine toothcomb and I have spent months and months and months and months going through it, evenings, weekends. You know, you wanna go through it really, really quickly because I wanted to get all the information I can and know what I can do, to help find her, as quickly as possible. So, obviously, I just worked really hard, just to get through it. Often, you know, police do say the name's in the files. It was always there, but you just need other bits of information, really, to come in to basically highlight the name. At the moment, there isn't a big arrow and an astrix (sic) by the name.
Voice over: The most likely sighting of M and her abductor was by JT, a friend of the Mc's. In the files, K believes another witness statement from an Irish family, describes a very similar sighting to JT's. Less than a mile from the Mc's apartment.
K: The reason why this is significant is, both sightings were given independently. So, when this family gave their statement they weren't aware of J(T)'s description and there's actually quite a lot of similarities and it does beg the question, I mean, how many people carry their children on a cold night, not covered, you know. Nothing on their arms, or their feet, no blanket. Now, either there's been two people carrying children that way, who haven't come forward to eliminate themselves or potentially they're related.
Voice of Interviewer: But, you think that child is M?
K: I think it's a good chance it could be M. Certainly, the description there, sounds to me, like M.
Voice over: K and the fm campaign co-ordinator travel to the search team's offices. They want to discuss the details of the upcoming reconstructions and three potentially key witness statements, that all tell of a man hanging around the Mc's apartment in the days leading up to May 3 2007.
DE: The most important one, apart, obviously, from Jane, is sighting No. 3, the man in the alleyway at the back of the apartment. No.3 is definitely a very important sighting cos it links them.
Voice over: The investigators have examined the statements from the three different witnesses and are now convinced that prior to M's abduction, the Mc's were being watched. The team hope this new information will give them the breakthrough they need.
DE: You'd think, it's gotta be the same person, wouldn't you, really?
AC: and all three say he was watching the apartment.
DE: We're here to discuss the pending reconstruction that we want done.
K: So, basically, it looks like we've got five sightings, really. Two, a man with a child and three, just a suspicious individual.
DE: Yeah
K: and three, the three with the suspicious, suspicious, of the suspicious (she seems to have developed a stutter) individual, kinda, tie in together.
DE: They all tie in together.
Fm campaign co-ordinator: They're all at similar times and place.
DE: There's three in exactly the same location. I don't know what the Portuguese authorities have done to actually eliminate these people from the enquiry. So, we've gotta presume that they haven't done it and go with that. So, it's just important, that we actually, we are accurate in what we know and make sure that that's what we're going with. No speculation. It's gotta be the facts that we know and not try to fill in the gaps that we don't know.
K: I mean, I'd like to go back, but not for this, to be honest. It's kinda, just below the surface and I just, you know, I'd be scared, I think, you know, to sort of open it open it up again, really, so. yeah. I think, it's actually going through the scenario of that night, as well, you know. Erm, I mean, you know, even what I can remember of the night, you know. Seeing G, erm, that distraught, really, sobbing and on the floor. I mean, I suppose I'm concerned that that will, er, surface again.
Voice over: K calls key witness JT, who has agreed to join G and the investigators in PdL for the reconstructions.
Scene: K talking on the phone to JT
K: "Oh, ok, pretty busy, (she laughs). Although, it's quite good to be honest to be doing stuff and focused and it just sort of helps, you know, to be doing something positive thing. How you feeling about the weekend? I mean, I'm really nervous and I'm not going (laughs). Thank you very much by the way. No, I know, I know it's a big step, but we appreciate it anyway so, thank you.
K: Er, she's trying not to think about it. She just said, erm, apart from the obvious emotional concern, she's worried about the reaction of people locally.
Voice over: Returning will be controversial. PdL was a popular family holiday resort, but things haven't been the same since M's abduction.
K: You know, we are aware that, unfortunately, erm, this has all been a headache really for people whose businesses are out there, their livelihoods, you know. It's a negative, a child's been abducted from that area and I guess in the ideal world, it would all go away, you know, everybody could move on with their lives and, but, you know, our little girl is still missing so …
K: I think regardless of what anybody thinks of me and G, and I'm a bit past caring now, really. But, you know, I think, people do feel for M and that's the most important thing and they want M to be found and they want M to be well. There has been a question as to why now and I'd simply say, well M is still missing. Why not, now? You know.
Voice of Interviewer: Do you feel there's a lot riding on this weekend?
K: I do, yeah, and I'm nervous. I'm nervous because I realise how important this is to do really. To get that bit of key information, I'm nervous that it'll … all could get sabotaged or it could all go very wrong. Obviously, I don't want that because it's so important.
G: We are desperate for this to be successful and to be done and hopefully it might be one call, t might be 10 calls, but that's all it'll take, it could be just one piece of information.
DE: The offence was committed in PdL, that's a simple fact. So, you don't start an investigation in, er, Morocco or Spain or even Lisbon. This event's happened in PdL. It's a very self-contained resort and that's where I think the answer is.
Voice over: D E is leading the search for MM. Today, he's in PdL, on the Portuguese Algarve, to oversee filming of significant events described in witness statements. Statements, which he believes, strongly suggest that someone was watching the Mc family. He hopes that the reconstructions will lead to the discovering who that someone is.
DE: He may even have been watching the apartment for a week or more. I don't think it was someone random. In my experience random just doesn't happen. Someone just doesn't go in, … passerby, and pick up a child and take it. These things are planned.
DE with Pimpleman actor
DE: This, erm, scene. You're standing over there and you're standing at an angle
Action: filming starts
Witness 1: Child and woman walking.
Voice over: Witness No. 1 is a British tourist. She first saw something strange four days before M disappeared.
Sunday, April 29, approx 08.00
Witness 1: I was walking along the road with my daughter, when I saw a man. I grabbed my daughter's hand and pulled her towards me because for some reason, he unnerved me.
Voice over: She saw the same man again. This time close to the Mc's apartment on the day before M went missing
Wednesday 2 May approx 15.00
Witness 1: The next time I saw him, he was standing on the opposite side of the road to the apartment. He appeared to be watching it. He was about 5'10", slim build and wearing casual clothes, jeans, I think. I would describe him as very ugly, pitted skin, with a large nose.
DE talking to a young girl (Witness 3)
DE: …and as you're just passing here, this chap will be stood over there. So, if you just, you come up, if you just glance over at him and ….
Scene shows Witness 2, Mum, girl and two dogs
Voice over: The second witness is a school girl, who lives near the holiday complex. Three days before M was taken, she was with her mum outside the M's apartment.
Monday 30 April approx 08.15
Witness 2: I was walking to the school bus stop. I go this way to school every day. As I was walking down the road, near the apartment, I saw a man on the small path behind the block. My grandparents used to live in that apartment. So, I always look at it, as I pass by. The man seemed to be looking at the balcony of the ground floor apartment. He was wearing a black jacket and leaning against the wall.
Voice over: She saw him again, as well, the day before M was taken.
Witness 2: I didn't go to school that day because I had an ear infection. I was walking up the road with my two dogs, when I saw the man. He was standing on the road opposite the OC and he was staring at the apartment.
DE talking to older couple (Witness 3)
DE: You have him coming from your apartment, which is over here, somewhere. You turn the corner and walk down the path.
Lady witness (the couple) (Witness 3): What the two of us?
DE: Yes, the two of you together.
DE: This was actually a sketch that was drawn by the witness at the time and, er, as you can see, he's just stood where we are now. (shows sketch the couple) Make eye contact with him and just walk straight on past.
Voice over: Witness No 3 is a man with his partner from Cheshire. He gave a statement to the police describing a man he'd seen near the apartment.
Witness 3 (Man) I can't remember whether I saw the man on Wednesday 2 or Thursday 3 May (approximately 11.30). But as we walked along the road, I saw a man standing next to the wall by the parking area. On the opposite side of the road was a white van. I paid particular attention to him, because he appeared to be focused on watching the apartment block as I walked past him, I looked at him, and for a split second, we had eye contact but then he just carried on staring at the apartment.
DE: We're asking for people to come forward with information. For me, one of the big things in any major crime, the perpetrators always confide in someone else. They've gotta get it off their chest and it's that person, as much as anything, that we're aiming at. Someone knows something.
Voice over: G is back in PdL. His arrival and the reconstructions are attracting a lot of media attention. But for the people who live here, it's attention they can do without.
G: This is an area that relies strongly on tourism and people's livelihoods have been affected and I can totally understand when people are suffering economically, that they get resentful. But, hope they can understand as well, that as parents, we need to find M.
Voice over: The simmering anger is evident. A brand new billboard poster of M with "Help me" in Portuguese has been splattered with paint and at the holiday complex G can hear the hostility (heckling)
G: No one, even with a heart of stone, can take away that there's a little girl missing. Why anyone would not want to help find her is a mystery and obviously if we find M, then everyone can move on.
Voice over: He goes back to the Tapas Bar where they ate in the evenings, while the children slept in the apartment.
G: I can't remember exactly where the table was. It was kinda in this bit, so it'd be about around here and I was kinda sitting in this bit and K was here. Well, you could see where the shutters are now and the bit of the hedge, it's grown. It was cut, you know, a couple of feet lower than that.
Voice over: For the first time in two years, G returns to apartment 5a of the OC.
Voice over: The last place where he saw his daughter, M, asleep in her bed.
G: So, I actually came in and M was just at the top of the bed here, where I'd left her lying and the covers were folded down and she had her cuddle cat and blanket, were just by her head It's terrible because, I , erm, had one of those really proud father moments, where I just thought, you know. I just thought, your absolutely beautiful and I love you and I just paused for a minute and then, I just pulled the door closed again and just to about there and, er, I felt incredibly proud standing there and having, you know, 3 beautiful children.
That's the, I think the most ironic thing of the lot, that, that momentary pause I had, at that door, that's exactly what I felt like. You know, a few minutes before our world was essentially shattered and probably, 3 or 4 minutes before M was taken and we obviously, absolutely, er, what's the word, persecuted ourselves for not being here and, erm, there is no doubt, that not being here at that moment, erm, increased the risk of it.
Voice over: The Mc's were on holiday with a group of friends. In the evenings, they all ate together and took it in turns to make half-hourly checks on each other's children. Two of the group, MO and JT, both crucial witnesses, have returned to help DE with the reconstructions. It's believed that M was taken shortly after her father's check at 9 o'clock. In the 45 minutes that followed, there were two significant sightings of a man carrying a young girl. The first was by JT. She was looking in on her sick daughter, when she saw G returning from his check. He was talking to a friend, JW, at the side of the road. However, J(T) and G remember the scene differently.
JT: So, I think you were about here. Cos, I think that you were standing like that and, J(W) was there, with his pram, pointing down that way. Cos, I think if you'd been looking at me, I would've said something, cos I would've said about, cos K had been moaning that you'd been gone a long time watching the football.
G: I'm almost certain that when I came out, I came over and he was here and I was like that. That's my memory of it, it's like J(W) is 6'3" or something and looking up and then turning in, when I finished. That's my memory of it.
JT: Yeah. I mean, well we just …….
DE: It's like I said, there are, you know, inconsistencies, you know, in every major investigation.
JT: Ok, that's fine.
DE: Obviously, the most important thing is what you saw, Jane. It's not where G and J(W) were actually stood. Because they didn't obstruct your view of the man. So ….
JT: I was walking up here to do the check and probably, as I got to , it's hard to know exactly where, but probably, about here, I saw the man walk across the road there, carrying the child. I just got up and walked out the Tapas bar, past G talking to J(W). That's when I saw somebody walk across the top of the road, carrying a child and I think, I did think, oh, there's somebody taking their child home to bed. But, they didn't look like a standard tourist. This is ridiculous isn't it? It just looks so much like somebody abducting a little girl, when you look at it. It just looks so obvious when you know, you know. Just look at it and you think, why the hell didn't you think there is somebody abducting a child. That was not even a thought, that somebody's gonna go into an apartment and take a child out. You know, you're probably the one person that could've actually stopped it and you think, oh, what if? It's that what if? what if?, what if and you can take those what ifs to ad infinitum really.
Voice over: At 9.30 pm, half an hour after G's check it was MO's turn to look in on all the children. He went into the Mc's apartment, but didn't go into the bedroom and so didn't see if M was missing.
MO: Pretty much from the approach down here, you can see straight into the room. So you can see the cots as you are walking in. So it never really felt like there was any real need to, sort of, go all the way into the room. Erm, you could see both cots and see into them from there. I, sort of, ummed and ahed about the angle and things. All I just know is that I had an unimpeded view and it was just dead quiet, and just… why I didn't take those extra couple of steps in
G: Yeah, I mean, I was saying this earlier, that at no point, other than that night, did I go stick my head in. That was the only time, because the door was like that. I mean, I knew how I'd left it.
MO: It's more that you know I'd felt you'd done enough. You've been and seen. It's quiet.
G: Part of the reason we ended up coming through the back was the noise coming through the front door. We didn't want to disturb them. Sigh. Stupid, now, isn't it.
Voice over: It is possible that JT is not the only person who saw M being carried away by the abductor. 40 minutes after J(T)'s sighting and ½ mile away from the Mc's apartment a family also saw a man carrying a young girl away from the town. Later the witness thought that this might have been GM. But, this was investigated and ruled out by the Portuguese police.
DE: A man was seen here carrying a child, just before 10 pm on the night M was abducted. When the man saw the family he appeared furtive and veered off to one side and carried on walking. Obviously, anyone carrying a child at night, it's really important. We need to find out who this person was.
Family Witness Statement: I was with my family. We'd been out for the night and we were walking up the street when I saw a man and he was carrying a child. I thought they were father and daughter, so I wasn't so suspicious. The girl was about 4, she looked like my granddaughter, blonde hair, pale white skin, typically British. The man didn't look like a tourist. I can't explain why. It was, probably, from his clothes.
G: Someone knows the information and someone knows who took M and someone knows where she is. Let's get moving! Let's get the phone ringing.
Voice over: At home K is preparing for the inevitable media attention that will surround the second anniversary of M's disappearance.
K: ( Showing photo album) well this one. I think is really sweet and it's M just when she arrived home from hospital, erm, to our house. I think she looks quite cute, wrapped up in a little bundle. She's got those eyes. I tell you, those eyes that never closed.
For us they're not just photos and especially now, not having M in our life, they're more than photos and to me, each photo is very special. I mean, it's M and we've given out so much of our daughter to the world really. You know, you just want to be able to retain some of it.
Voice of Interviewer: Are we allowed to see this one?
K: uh-hum (nods head in agreement)
Voice of Interviewer: Do you still feel her physically, as much as you did?
K: Tut… well, I know the M that I know, you know. I don't know M at, you know, nearly six. She might look different. She could be speaking a different language (Scene shows her packing for trip to States) She might have her hair different, she might have different interests, but, you know, she's still our daughter.
G: (holding up a suit). I think that's pretty business-like isn't it?
K: Yes
G: Right, put that away
Voice over: K&G are preparing for a trip to America that they hope will breathe new life into the search for M. As well as an interview on the OW show, they plan on visiting the world's leading child recovery experts, who are creating an image of M aged six.
K: We're going to America tomorrow and initially, we're going to Washington to the NCMEC
EA: Circulating the photograph of, er, of a child, who was not quite four, two year's later is not good enough.
When, we started this 10 year's ago. The goal was to use technology, er, to keep these cases alive. To provide new hope for parents and new leads for law enforcement and we said at the time, wouldn't it be great if we could actually find one of these kids and we found 900 of them. Er, everyone of these 900 cases, the child had been missing at least two years. So, what we've tried to do is to take your photos, er, as a guide. Young children's faces change very quickly. As you can see, she has her mother's jawline. She has her mother's mouth. It's striking. She has her mother's dimples.
K: That's me, as well, isn't it? (referring to picture of her as a child)
EA: This is you, as well. Exactly.
K laughs
EA: But G, she has your nose.
G: The genes mix quite well. (Both laughing).
EA: They really do. They really do. I mean it's a remarkable example of the best of genetics. So, leaning heavily, on heredity, and using every tool we can find, we truly believe that this is what MM looks like today and we hope that somebody, that millions of somebodies will look at the picture, but, that somebody will be moved to reach out and say, I think I have information.
G: I glanced It's a different child and that is really important. It's not the four year old or nearly four year old little girl and it's hard, because, In our memory, we remember her the last day she was in Portugal and what she looked like, so…
K: It's a very emotional thing, really, to see my daughter in a different way to how I remember her. Erm, so if I'm honest, initially, I, was quite upsetting and then I started to look at features and I thought, well, that's definitely M and that bits M and, you know, yes, she is 2 year's older.
EA: Despite the love and the care you that you put into raising her, at that age, M may not know she's missing. M may have been told, well, now you are supposed to come with me. So, we hope that other children will look at this. It's not inconceivable that she's in a classroom somewhere. The goal here is to reach out to people around the world and say. Somebody knows something and if you do, call us.
Voice over: K&G now need to publicise this new image. The first step is to travel from Washington to Chicago for an interview on OWS, that will be broadcast in 144 countries.
G: It's really important we get this image out, as far and as wide as possible. Because, ultimately, we don't know where M is and if she was moved out of Portugal quickly, she could be anywhere and that's the main reason for doing O(W) get that image out there
K: Nervous, but, it's like anything we've done, you know, we're doing it for a reason and the reason's to held find M so just get on with it.
G: I actually think there's not much more else we can do right now.
K: I think we've achieved a lot in the last few weeks and we're really hoping that somebody who has been sitting there, knowing something, will suddenly feel the courage and compassion really to come forward and of course, we've also released the age progression image of M, now age 6 and I think that's important. Because that's almost appealing to people, who may know M, whatever M's called now
K: So I feel, we've all worked really hard. I think what we've done is positive and productive. I actually feel the chance of us finding M is higher now, it's more likely to yield a result and I actually feel a little excited, really, about what we've just done so.
G: I think it's like, we want it out there, now. All the work's been done and it's all being co-ordinated round the anniversary. But we want it out and it's just, let's get moving.
K: We just need that one person, there might be more than one person, but one person to come forward and say I've seen that girl or I remember something from that night and that could unravel the whole thing.
Don't Forget to Watch Gonçalo Amaral's Documentary, based on his book 'Maddie, The Truth of The Lie'.- Currently being censored in the UK. Inner Link: 'The documentary the McCanns don't want you to see' or External Link: Blip TV
The Mockumentary Reviewed by Joana Morais on 17:46 Rating: 5
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Anonymous Friday, May 08, 2009 6:07:00 pm
Uploaded from the British Comedy Channel, was it?
keyser sose Friday, May 08, 2009 6:23:00 pm
my god..i could only stomach it uptill 2.34 i felt physically sick.So mrs mccann you was'nt able to tell the difference between bedding and your own daughter (dumb bitch).
But you noticed that the bedroom door was not how you left it,that's very observent off you is'nt it? Hic hic
Next time you need to check on your kids may i suggest you take those extra 4 steps from the door and actually physically check on your kids.
My god who do these people think they are kidding, they have even managed to brainwash themselves.
filthy people
Eme Friday, May 08, 2009 6:31:00 pm
Estoy mirando las imágenes (no comprendo lo que dicen, no entiendo el inglés) pero estas imágenes con los gemelos (puro azúcar, puro jarabe, puro edulcorante) me están poniendo enferma.
Vuelven a utilizar a los pequeños para lavar su imagen y presentarse como excelentes padres...
En otro orden de cosas, ¿cómo puede decir que las cortinas se movían, si las cortinas estaban abiertas (no delante de la ventana)?
¿Toda la (presunta) reconstrucción está llena de verdades como esa?
Anorakian Friday, May 08, 2009 6:46:00 pm
The interesting thing is, I sat with pen poised ready to make notes of the times and events....
...the page remained blank!
The evil spotty abductor stood openly staring at the McCanns apartment...over several days...before flitting silently in the split second he had avaialable to him to snatch a little child who remained inert in his outstretched arms... to then wander around the town clutching his prey...!
Dear me, these are intelligent people - yet this is the best they can come up with!
This new detectives are a joke...
Joana Morais Friday, May 08, 2009 6:57:00 pm
In this blog we translate for free Kate! No one pays us(in fact we don't even have a paypal button or a fund), we have one motivation - to know the Truth and to see that Justice is done for Madeleine.
The 'FBI-accredited police' is no longer, now Melissa Little is a Police 'unqualified' artist...
KC Friday, May 08, 2009 7:27:00 pm
my favorite soap !
hel Friday, May 08, 2009 8:23:00 pm
Many thanks for this, Joana!
So, Loach with all the tools out of the sentimentality toolbox... The parents using their children- again... And an "abductor" who already has a "face"...
But no dogs, of course.
Ana Friday, May 08, 2009 8:50:00 pm
There's one thing that has stuck with me for the past week, since Kate's new "testimonies" (1st on Opraha and now here):
Kate says she went into the room and she felt something was not quite right because the door was opened wide(r) than when they had left the children...
But two other people (at least) had been there since, right? First Gerry, than Matt(?). Couldn't one of them had left the door in a different position? Why was that detail of the door such an important indication of an abduction?
Unless... the checks story is a lie and no one checked the children but Kate.
Olá a todos.
Sobre o documentário, tenho um comentário/pergunta..
Porque sentiram os pais de MADELEINE necessidade de alterar o depoimento da familia Smith, pondo o " raptor " a levar a MADELEINE na mesma posição descrita pela tia Juanita ???
É que os Smith disseram que a criança era transportada ao alto, com a cabeça apoiada no ombro do dito cujo homem, corpo encostado ao seu peito, e braços caídos inertes.
Mas PORQUÊ desvirtuar algo,tão aparentemente, inocente e importante ????????
Ana, you're right. How would Kate know if other people were checking before her last check....the door may naturally not be left the same if different people were taking turns to check the kids...this is so obvious yet I missed it...well done!
marie(f) Friday, May 08, 2009 10:07:00 pm
Que giro....que lindo film que eu vi! E a Kate ? Tao bonitaaaaaaaaaaa quando as cortinas fazem pfuiiii, como diz o meu marido: se isto é uma reconstituçao o meu ca..lho é um assobio.(desculpa Joana)
Vou entregar o meu jantar à sanita
xau xau
jo Friday, May 08, 2009 10:12:00 pm
What a load of C R A P
Anonymous Friday, May 08, 2009 10:34:00 pm
The Mockumentary - The McCanns' abduction charade carries on. There will be no end to it unless some drastic action is taken. Isn't the case going to be reopened and the parents charged!?
truthseeker Friday, May 08, 2009 10:54:00 pm
The McCanns' approach is always the same, to smudge the evidence, to confuse the issue. Now they are working on the Smiths' viewing of Gerry carrying Madeleine's body to make it look like someone else carrying the child, the "abductor" in Tanner's pretend "sighting".
If Jane Tanner "saw" the abductor what is the meaning of introducing another alleged abductor? And surprise, surprise, there was another person with a child....,
it and the whole story seems to be a diabolic confusion,
intentionally.One time there WILL be justice, is it not here, than in eternity.
Isabel Saturday, May 09, 2009 12:37:00 am
I don't remember having seeing 2 children walking in front of the Smith's couple, in Amaral's documentary.
I remember the couple walking in front of the family, no young children.
On Gerry's reconstruction, I see 2 children walking in front of the Smith couple.
Could it be that Amaral knew the position of the 2 children, told by the Smiths, and hid this detail?
And Gerry knew it as well and mentioned it?
Who remembers this well?
Spartan Saturday, May 09, 2009 1:31:00 am
Sorry, l couldn't watch it for any longer than a minute. This mother has not seen her kids for an hour or longer and when she does come to check on them she's not even going to go into the bedroom to physically see them! … because it being quiet is good enough!!!
Words just fail me!
Anonymous Saturday, May 09, 2009 5:39:00 am
They are seriously telling people that the "abductor" was walking around PDL for 40 minutes !
Why british media support these macabre self made soap stars ?
Gerry as always came across as a control freak and Kate the same old cold emotionless person she is. What reason would these two people possibly have for wanting children? This was evident in the way they were constantly put in a creche on holiday while they played tennis, jogged etc. It certainly wasnt a family holiday. It raises my suspicions further!!!
Maria from Brazil Saturday, May 09, 2009 7:12:00 am
Hello from Brazil!
well, I think Gerry and Kate are hungry for popularity maybe they are unhappy doctors and try to be good actors.
At last Gerry enjoyed to show the world how extravagant is his house. He is not the unknown poor guy from Scottland anymore.
He is the father of Madeleine- his source of capital.
This is a mixture of Eastenders & Faust (by Goethe).
have a nice weekend, dear bloggers!
Congrats! You saw exact what I saw: the proof that Kate is lying, thus confessing. I posted it last night, and posted also on the 3Arguido's.
Let's all push, and make this count.
She's confessing!!!
Anonymous Saturday, May 09, 2009 10:04:00 am
If the door slammed shut and did not wake the children.Why was Kate
afraid to put the light on in fear of waking them.Why was the curtains not blowing when the door was originaly opened. Surely the door would already have been shut. IF it was that Windy
Joanna,
Please have a close look at this link:
http://censuredinuk09.blip.tv/#2090099
Unless I am going mad in the beginning after Beckam and the Pope Kate holds up the pyjamas and clearly says :
"these are actually the pyjamass Maddie was wearing when she was taken"
Any comments ??
Kate and Gerry abusam de todos incluindo os gémeos. Imaginem que até dizem às pobres crianças que a Madeleine haverá de voltar para casa um dia. Deverá ser numa manhã de nevoeiro pela mão de Dom Sebastião...
Fernis Saturday, May 09, 2009 11:17:00 am
In front of cameras, Kate is doing a lot of crying nowadays. Why?
I never saw her crying during the first days of Madeleine's disappearance. Is she feeling remorses? If so of what?
Uhuhuh...naughty Shaun, he's just called his sister Maddie! A big no no!"We never called her that"..."it's a media invention"!
Gerry actually does have the stone face to tell everyone that it is pretty "amazing" that no police force is pro-activelly looking for Madeleine!!!WHY'S THAT GERRY???Why did you never ask for a BRITISH police investigation( not to mention the missed chance to keep the portuguese one open as it was your legal right!)
Again, "mother Hubbard", lending a friendly hand, posing as the lady with the dogs! What a helpful lady she is, very christian of her!( or is she taking the chance to fulfill her secret life wish of being an actress?...)
Gerry: "us not being here "at that moment" increased the risk" !!!
Once again the "at that moment", they still do not regret leaving the children alone all the nights, they only regret not being there "at that moment", whatever that might mean! And their absence didn't increase the risk, it created the risk! If they had been there all the time nothing would have happened, or are we to believe that the abductor was so desperate to get Madeleine that he would have invaded the apartm despite the parents presence, and fight Gerry and Kate, knock the down and take her way?
It didn't do Jane Tanner look good, did it, saying that she was "looking in on her SICK daughter" when she saw the abductor?...what kind of a mother with a sick child would still willingly leave her behind and go out to dinner?
And considering that Jane T. is the all important key witness, and that she affirms she saw Gerry and Jez talking outside the gate of 5A, on the same side of the road she was walking on, still they went along with Gerry's version of events and film the scene with him and Jez talking on the opposite side! If Tanner says she saw a man crossing the road with a child on his arms, then she must be right, there's no doubt she saw him, BUT never mind what she says about where they were standing speaking, if Gerry says differently then that's the way it goes! Whatever Gerry says goes, HE'S THE BOSS!!! And the investigators jump on the chance to brush off the inconsistancies, "oh, it's nothing really, it's something normal in an investigation"!
For me, the real reason for filming it that way was because of the blatant impossibility of them not seeing Jane if she indeed had passed closely by them on the same side of the road. It was impossible to film it that way.
Oldfield enters the apartm. and he can see the cots, no need to enter into the room! How did he see the cots so clearly if the bedroom door was supposeddly in a 5º angle, almost closed, like Gerry says he had left it? If he could see the cots so well would he not have seen if the window was open, the shutters up? Wouldn't he have felt the cold night air rushing in through the window?
And Gerry says that part of the reason to come in the back door was because of the noise of the front door opening!( how loud a noise could the door make?!),
yet he says he entered through the front door on his check! They just cannot get it straight!
The Smith sighting : they sure "cherry picked" the parts of the statment they wanted! Mr. Smith said the man carried the child upwards, head on his shoulder, the child's arms hanging down along her body, not at all the same way of Tanner's man. And they take the precaution of mentioning the posterior association with Gerry, by telling it was dismissed by the police! From what I know, it was because it was established that Gerry was at the Tapas table at that hour, but this claim comes from the Tapas7 themselves, and maybe some waiter, but times could be wrong, the timings were never accurately confirmed, and with all the comings and goings of the group it was a bit difficult for the staff to be able to say beyond any doubt who was or was not at the table at a certain time. The police reconstruction of events could have cleared this, but as we all know it never happened.
Please forgive me for the long post, I went along writting it down as I watched the video, putting my thoughts into it as they came into my head, so many came rushing in, I could have gone on and on...
Anonymous Saturday, May 09, 2009 12:07:00 pm
What struck me about this docu was the several references to phonecalls that could help find Maddy. I believe someone says "it could be 10 calls or just 1"...its certainly refered to a couple of times and I was waiting and waiting and waiting for a phone number to be broadcast during the show...no phone number throughout the entire show. Even at the ending credits there was only a voiceover "to find out more visit Channel 4.com"...so I would like to ask Team Mccanns...why no phone number?...wasn't that the whole aim of the show? A big clanger dropped there!
Now I saw it better.
On Amaral, Mr. Smith is walking right and a lady left.
The group is at the beginning of the street.
On Gerry's version, the lady is right side, wearing pink and the man left side.
There is a child walking between them and they walk further up on the street(but from the book we knew where they saw the "abductor".
More details than Amaral tells.
If this is not published on the process(police always keep secrets)
this could be an ambush for Gerry.
Joana, is it possible to make a video with the 2 different scenes near each other?
And what about the strong light on the streets around 5A?
Sorry, back again! I just realized, thanks to Textusa, that Lisa Donovan, who was playing Kate, did not show on the mockumentary! Wow! They never showed us any scenes of the actual checkings, not even the crucial one, Kate finding her daughter missing and the open shutters and window! Not even Kate running to the Tapas crying out loud and they all frantically looking for Madeleine! They didn't consider it important enough to be in their "reconstruction"!( in fact they kept the reconstruction part to a minimum)
WHAT IS THIS? WHY? WHY NOT? Was it because it would look too strange and unbelivable that a mother who had just find her daughter missing and that was convinced someone took her, would leave again, running out, forgetting her other two childen behind, unsecured, while she sounded the alarm? It wouldn't look good would it?...Or was it because they didn't want to go into the details of what Kate really said when she arrived at the Tapas? ( they've taken her, or, Madeleine's gone, we've let her down...)
I wonder why Lisa Donovan's participation was taken off...this must have been one of the "alterations" made to it ( by Payne? wasn't he the one who came back to do the changes?)!
Did the actress express her concerns and doubts about the whole thing, became a liability and was sacked, or did her conscience and professional pride talk louder than the "bucks" and she decided to withdraw herself from the whole charade?
I wonder what else was "changed"?...I wish I could have been a fly on the wall of the editing room...if only the original footage hasn't been destroyed and someone will carelessly let it come out...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/maddie/article2420491.ece
I hope this Portugese citizen complains to the Police about the theft of his DNA - I would have thought the ECJ or ECHR would have something to say too, clear breach of human rights carried out by two retired policemen from UK.
Anonymous Saturday, May 09, 2009 1:11:00 pm
Unbelievable!!!! why Mrs. Macann did you not acted like this to help the Police? Why did you (in time) answer to the Police questions?
All this is a lie, and the truth is that you know fair well, what happened to your beloved(? )daughter that afternoon and night.
But you both, know too much of too many, and secrets can be negotiated. Poor little child.
jo Saturday, May 09, 2009 1:13:00 pm
I believe they changed an awful lot of things when Gonçalo said-before the Mockumentary was aired-that if anything the procurador should file the docudrama to use it as evidence......isnt it a "reconstruction"?
"Why was that detail of the door such an important indication of an abduction?"
kate should have cut her tongue,shouldnt she?
Following on from my last comment re DNA sample - 3As makes the point -what on earth where they going to compare this sample to? There is no evidence of an abductor let alone a DNA sample!
bob the bluebird Saturday, May 09, 2009 3:06:00 pm
"It takes just one person to come forward and say 'I remember something from that night', and that could unravel the whole thing."
Kate, my love, your doing that all by yourself.
It's still not too late to do the right thing.
The ugly man taking Maddie in Kate and Gerry's mokumentary is Gerry all right!
In my modest opinion, what they do with the private team of investigators is to make a scapegoat. to blame someone and close the case.
after seeing many pics, and documentarys of the children's bedroom...I still don't see the famous SHELF where Cuddle Cat was.
-Anyone of you can say where is/was the high located shelf? Thanks.
How much channel 4 paid for that rubbish?
It was again all about Gerry and Kate Mccann and nothing about Madeleine.
Why they need to invite a Tv channel to show the world how they play with kids? All responsable parents do it on a daily base, specially if they have alots of free time and no economical problems. It was a shame to see how the twins are used and explored on all the documentary, because for them remembering and talking about their missing sister, I believe, it is a moment of great pain and panic. But this two parents, still not thinking about the fears and the emotions of their kids.
If what they are supposed to do was a reconstruction of May 3rd, then the documentary was very, very poor and hard to believe. To make a so poor movie, Gerry did not need to go to Praia da Luz, since all the witnesses changed the story, why travelling to the flat 5A? can be done anywhere. It was a joke to see all Kate explanations about the doors, the windows, the courtains, etc. No any mother of a missing child, will remember and pay attention for such ridiculous and insignificant issue, like the position of the doors and she spend lots of time talking about it. For me looks like a fabrication. I think the first idea which appeared on any mother on that position is: from my close group, or the people which I know, who could be here without my permission? Not the doors, not the courtains... and after that never, never leave the twins alone again.
On the other hand, the documentary show me how beautiful Praia da Luz is. If I had doubts about the abduction theory, after that beautiful postal card of Praia da Luz, I really believe Madeleine was not abducted. The place doesn't match with a paedophile ring, doesn't fit an abductor. Looks more like a friendly, calme and quite place. I will visite Praia da Luz on my next holidays in Portugal.
Great work Channel 4, at the end your programme was very helpless for Madeleine but shows the world how beautiful Praia da Luz is.
There was no child walking betweem the Smith couple.
There was a child right behind the couple, between them, for a short time.
And the abductor in light collors.
Where is the actress that went to Praia da Luz to play Kate's role?
Anonymous Friday, July 11, 2014 5:10:00 pm
Thank you, Joana, for preserving the "local" information on file. ("Local" here means the tourists/ex-pats, since I saw not one single local Portuguese person in the programme.)
The original link no longer works but the programme is on YouTube at the date of my post.
Just to add to the debate, the pock-marked stranger with the big nose. In his first scene, he is standing on the junction of Rua do Ramalhete and Rua Dr Agostino Da Silva.
What you can see of the McCann apartment from there is simple. Nothing.
The location happens to be the nearest set of green-coloured rubbish bins to the disappearance.
I am not saying this is significant. 'Cos I don't know.
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Watch & Hear Drunk Toby Keith / Toby Refuses To Acknowledge Issue
UPDATE: Toby Keith Publicist Punts on Drunk Concert, Indianapolis Press Picks Up Story
Many of the attendees to Toby Keith's Saturday night (9-13) concert at the Klipsch Music Center near Indianapolis are up in arms over Toby Keith's performance after Keith showed up drunk and stumbled through his set. Some families spent upwards of $300 dollars on tickets and drove from many hours away just to see Toby Keith slur his words and forget others throughout the concert in what one parent called an "embarrassing" performance.
Numerous fans reached out to Live Nation and the Klipsch Music Center on Monday in an attempt to get refunds to no avail. Neither Live Nation, the Klipsch Music Center, nor Toby Keith's management have addressed, or even acknowledged the issue. Saving Country Music also made calls to both the appropriate parties at the Klipsch Music Center, which is owned and operated by Live Nation, and to TKO Management which manages Toby Keith, and neither entity returned calls.
READ: Drunk Toby Keith Blows Show in Indiana
Surprisingly, only one video from the 24,000-capacity venue has surfaced in the 48-hours since the concert, but this one piece of evidence does not put Toby Keith in a very flattering light. Singing his 9/11-inspired mega hit "Courtesy of the Red, White, & Blue," Toby Keith can be clearly heard heavily slurring his words and at times trailing off, until at the end of the line, "So we can sleep in peace at night when we lay down our heads," he descends into an inaudible garble, inspiring the videographer to exclaim, "Oh God!".
As a courtesy, Saving Country Music has isolated the audio in question in the below video, so inquiring minds can listen and determine just how drunk Toby may or many not have been that night.
drunk, Indiana, Indianapolis, Klipsch Music Center, Noblesville, refund, Toby Keith, video
September 15, 2014	@ 6:11 pm
Holy Moses . That's …well ………….I dunno WHAT that is but I'm pretty sure live Autotune wouldn't have stood a chance fixing this one , Toby .
I didn't notice any difference.
Wondering who put on a more embarrassing display over the weekend. Toby Keith with his drunkenness or Kanye West demanding that his bodyguard confirm that someone not standing up at his show was in fact in a wheelchair.
Personally, I had a great time at the Garth Brooks show.
September 16, 2014	@ 11:34 am
Garth truly was fantastic. I saw him twice in Chicago. The guy didn't miss a beat with a decade off touring, and he knows how to work a crowd and give people what they want.
It seems to me that artists are getting too full of themselves. Kanye, well, what needs to be said about a man who will stop a show unless every person in an audience stands up for him? In Toby's case I sincerely hope it was just a horrendous lapse of judgement. He needs to stand up, be a man, own what he did and make it up to his fans — by refunding their tickets or offering a free make-up show at some other date for Saturday's ticket holders.
I said the same thing about Garth. You'd never know he'd been retired for 16 years.
Lisa Milone
October 17, 2014	@ 10:39 pm
I am sorry to burst the bubbles of all those who believe this the first time Toby Keith stumbled onto stage. I saw him in 2012 in Tinley Park, IL. I was in the fan section with a friend who was going to his first concert EVER. Toby came out; red-faced, perspiring and slurring his words. Iit took half of the show before he got sober enough to perform well. I had seen him in 2011 and the show was great. Based on the 2011 show, I decided to try once more to show my friend he was as good as I had told him. I bought $400.00 tickets, total. I really wanted to go to this concert because "Hope On The Rocks" seemed different. But, when we heard the first single for the next album, "Drinks After Work", my friend and I put the tickets up for sale. When is Toby going to realize some of his die hard fans, like myself, actually like what made him famous, not what's made rich?
Matty T
While it's frustrating to pay hard-earned dollars to attend a concert where the performer(s) are too inebriated to, well, perform, it's interesting how back in the day (yes, before my time) it seemed to be considered "cool" to attend a concert where the artist or band was utterly wasted. At least that's what I've been told by people who went to a lot of concerts back in the 60s/70s/80s. Take the Grateful Dead's performance at Woodstock, for example. The entire band minus Pigpen was so drugged out that their set nearly descended in to pure chaos and that performance is considered legendary by many people. Now, I am in no way comparing a hack like Toby Keith to a legendary band like the G.D. but it's interesting to see how times have changed.
I'm not sure if that's the case. It may be with some people. I know Jerry Garcia and the rest of the Dead were the first to discount their Woodstock set as one of their worst performances ever. Sometimes it's an experience in itself to watch a train wreck, but people taking their family to a Toby Keith show is certainly not that demographic.
Oh absolutely, I remember seeing where Jerry stated that Woodstock was their worst performance of all time. And you're exactly right that watching the train wreck is an experience for some people but I was really making a semi-off topic observation. Though it is interesting how people get angry over a person being intoxicated on stage when a large majority of that person's hit songs revolve around excessive boozing.
Derik V
September 21, 2014	@ 7:03 am
Yes, but the difference is… those bands actually sounded good anyway. This guy who makes our country so proud singing "we'll put a boot in your ass" apparently can't handle his liquor.
hoptowntiger94
I take FB and Twitter posts with a grain of salt. In this day and age there are internet assassin's hiding behind their keyboards and once a story gains traction, everyone is piling on. So, while it's a nice starting point for a conversation, I need video evidence.
The youtube post was interesting, but it's astonishing that it's the only one. And keep in mind, we are assuming (which is a dangerous practice) that this video is actually from Saturday's concert – the publisher of this video doesn't specify when or where the video was recorded. It's hard to believe 12k (or so) people attended that concert and only one person posted a video to youtube, especially when I spent the better half of this morning watching pages of youtube clips from Saturday's Farm Aid.
What's interesting now is the response from Keith's camp – silence. And maybe that's the best course of action. Without undisputed, circumstantial video evidence, this may just blow over.
That video is from the Klipsch Music Center. The stage configuration, the overhang, where the screen is at the back of the stage, it is definitely from Klipsch.
Video isn't the only form of media to show incrimination! Have you seen the pics posted on Klipsch Music Center's FB? TK's all red-nosed, squinty-eyed and puffy. A couple of them are hilarious! I saved a few in case they get deleted.
The pictures were shot and posted by Klipsch and I'm surprised Toby's people have not demanded for them to be removed – they are that incriminating. The fact they were even posted tells me that maybe Klipsch isn't too happy about Saturday night, either. Otherwise, why publicly embarrass Keith and run the risk of him never playing there again?
There are a lot of posts on that FB page about Keith referring to our brave men and woman as Motherf*ckers (but in a good way).
Interestingly, 1 out of 10 commenters do come to TK's defense saying he was not drunk or not THAT drunk.
Anna Kimberly
I was there for that concert. I have the whole video on my phone it was crazy forgetting his words and everything. I love tk but damn man that was not the time to be that slammed.
Karen June Raufeisen
I am a former concert promoter, and Toby did a concert for me in 1994., and there he met some ladies that introduced him to their home made wine, and when he is in the area they usually bring him some of that wine, and I am guessing they were at his concert @ Klipsch, and he probably did drink their wine before going on stage, If his nose was red, it was because he had drank their wine! That is what happens when he drinks that stuff!! That mixed with the tiring schedule he does, the combination of wine and exhaustion may have resulted in the performance he gave on Saturday!!
There are too many posts and venue reviews to take it with a grain of salt.
Yea, I was there… He was most certainly drunk to the point of slurring words, trailing off, and forgetting lyrics… He abruptly left the stage at one point to the complete surprise of the another artist (forget her name, but she just had knee surgery), as he insisted that she sing a song. I don't have video or a recording to prove his inebriation: I usually don't record at concerts so who knew I'd need proof…. It was a horrible show on Toby Keith's part and I probably won't attend another one of his concerts. Don't mind if a performer drinks or gets his buzz on, but if you can't perform with dignity, stay off the stage…
nearlythere
wrong! no one is supposed to be videoing the show. thats called copyright infringment.keith was drunk or high or something! i have too many friends that were there.he def was not suffering from depression! these artist live a grueling schedule, i ask we step in Keiths shoes for a moment. the pressure to perform at peak level every show must be intense.he's gonna have to do something! i wonder if he smacks women when he's drunk!
So people are whining that a drunken white trash redneck ruined their concert? Ironic since the fans at these shows are usually so obnoxiously inebriated that they themselves ruin the show for the sober minority there to listen to the music…
Tony Keith acting like a drunken asshole should surprise NO ONE!
Some fans may get drunk but I would say MOST DON'T and yes I have been to many a concert (of all genres).
Maybe Toby Keith will replace David Allan Coe as the new age on stage performance shocker. You never know what you will get at DAC show, seems Keith may be heading down the trail!!!!
From a local Indianapolis TV station web site:
http://wishtv.com/2014/09/16/fans-say-toby-keith-too-drunk-at-indiana-concert/
Drunk on stage? Fans outraged over Toby Keith's Klipsch concert | Fox 59
[…] to reports from our media partners at the Indy Star and the website SavingCountyMusic.com, many fans had trouble understanding what Keith was saying and want […]
CHERYL FRANKLIN
I have waited 20 years to finally get to see Toby Keith. When I'm singing along with him and I know the words better than he does? That is just pathetic. That was my birthday gift from my new husband and my daughter. I was so disappointed. I will never spend another dime on him again. He had his daughter open up for him. She was so off key and flat. Must run in the family. The only thing good about the whole show was Colt Ford. If there was a way to get our money back, I would do it in a heart beat.
For him to stand up there and recognize our veterans, when he was acting like that then to say f*#% you all, I was livid. My dad was in WWII my two boys are in the military and I work for the VA. Just not enough words to describe how horrible this concert was.
Chuck Perry
This was our 5th and sadly our last Toby Keith Concert. Too drunk to perform. We left after about 40 minutes. As we walked to our car I was amazed at the number of people of all ages that also were leaving. Get help Toby!
Kudos, Trig on having the Indy news picking your story up!
Keep on fighting the power!
This was my first Toby Keith concert who i LOVE not just for that handsome face but for his music, the words he sings and for the memories i have with his music. I was very disappointed and i am smh with the fact that at one point had to run off stage to go Pee and has some random girl come up and sing who after her song announced to Toby to come back that she wasnt singing anymore songs….. very sad. 🙁
Fans say Toby Keith too drunk at Indiana concert | WTHITV.com
[…] website Saving Country Music has written about the concert, including video some fans think illustrate Keith sounding drunk while […]
William Freeman
I was at those concerts in the 70s and 80s and it was never cool to sing like shit and make a total drunken fool out of yourself. The Toby Keith concert was pathetic. First they shove a 15 minute Ford commercial down your throat. Then Toby Keith starts singing and he is clearly drunk out of his mind, and was slurring his words, singing off key, forgetting words. Just a really poor performance. Many people left early and my wife and I finally left before the encore and at that time many people were streaming out of the concert. I lost a lot of respect for Toby Keith.
Six String Richie
I'm just curious as to how many of the fans complaining and wanting their money back were going to just get drunk at the show anyway. If you're just gonna get drunk, does it matter if the singer is remembering the words to the songs?
Also, there have been some articles on the web lately saying that country has an alcohol problem. Will this occurrence further fuel that discussion and possibly create change?
Phantom Spaceman
The bar I go to has Karaoke night in which the participants take that little stage with more respect and dignity than this mess.
There isn't even a prize at the end of the night. Just a chance to sing to a crowd, and some surprisingly good renditions.
I mean, if you're going to spend your hard earned dollars listening to a drunk slur through your favorites, might as well go with the bar. At least there you won't be paying $8 for a solo red cup.
When people say Colt Ford did a better job than Toby Keith, you know something went horribly wrong with that concert…
Lynn Gatto
I have been going to see Toby in concert for 20 years and was so disappointed and saddened at his appearance in Indy. Not one song was in tune and he didn't sing any song correctly. We left before encore because I couldn't stand to watch him mess up on a song that honors our troops. I think he needs to be held responsible and something should be done to prevent this from happening again. The tickets are not cheap and he should be held accountable. I
It is truly incredible the degree to which the "therapy" racket has so warped the brains of the American sheeple. The silly idea that you are totally powerless over everything, and if you make, what some others view as a mistake, or mistakes you are obligated to declare your helplessness and throw yourself at the mercy of the therapy racket. Your father didn't hug you enough? Your mother liked your sister better than you? You occasionally drink more than is good for you? You buy too many lottery tickets? Your job sucks? You ran up a bunch of debt on your credit cards? You can't figure it out on your own or with the help if your family and friends. You most certainly must pay a "professional" to solve your issue. Its all bullshit. Few things chap me like a brainwashed moron telling a total stranger "you need help." Fuck you.
GregN
Yep. They should all just OD or shoot themselves.
Effin losers.
TX Music Jim
September 16, 2014	@ 12:17 pm
Look I am not defening TK here but I am hoping this was a bad night and he holds off till after the gig next time. I have seen lots of performers pretty wasted on stage over a lot of years. Not saying it is right but it happens ocasionally. Most of the old school guys could pull it off TK not so much.
Katy Smith
I have several friends and family that attended this show last Saturday in Noblesville and all complained about how drunk he was. My father has seen him at least 8 times over the last 10 years and will never go see him again. i saw him about 5 years ago and was offended and I dont get offended easily. To have an audience full of families and young children and throwing out the F bumb every other word is not necessary. I do my fair share of cussing too so that normally doesnt bother me, but for some reason it did that concert and I decided I would never go again!
Amber C
I was in the pit and have at least 3 videos of different songs showing he did an amazing job on them . If I could I would attach them to this commentt, but there isn't an attachment button. Unfortunatly I didn't record the Courtesy of the Red White and Blue…but we all mess up a time or two in life and it seems those who care the most are the ones who want a refund. While Toby might have had his eyes closed most of the performance, can you blame him with all the lights in his face? So what if he had a few drinks; his songs about having a good time and saluting America are why we love him! He doesn't owe us an explaination or a refund, if you weren't impressed then don't go back…it will lower the prices for the rest of us who are real understanding people and real fans!
Deborah Fochler
When you spend $700 or so for a ticket. You at least would like the singer to sing. He forgets the fans put him where he is – they can also take him to the bottom of the heap.
I love music and have been to many many concerts and would be very unhappy had I paid the price for a ticket and he couldnt even talk much less sing. I would want a refund.
seriously… this is news? guys been around for 20 years and accidentally gets too drunk before one show..
I'm not a toby fan, but an outlaw country blog doggin on a guy for getting too drunk 1 outta thousands of shows?
all the people idolized by this website have done that many times over… and not gracefully either, as we all like to romanticize.
pretty sure his last single was, "too drunk to karaoke."
Yes, this is news. And I think it is diseased to somehow think it is "cool" or "country" for an entertainer to get up in front of a crowd of people, some of which spent upwards of $300 on tickets, and not deliver what they expected. This is not George Jones circa 1974, whose tickets when adjusted for inflation would have still been $20. This is not David Allan Coe who nobody is selling as family entertainment anyway. People come to Toby Keith concerts with their families, and expect something of quality for their hard earned money. And in this case, they didn't get that and deserve a refund, if not an apology.
If you don't think this is news, then you might want to tell that to every single local television news program in Indianapolis who is running stories about this tonight. There are hundreds of fans up in arms over what happened, and just because the complicit country music media doesn't want to cover the story because they're afraid they'll lose that sweet Live Nation advertising payout doesn't mean I shouldn't play ball.
If Toby Keith would have simply offered an apology 48 hours ago, all of this would have been forgotten. Instead angry fans aren't getting answered, and I personally feel like I have a duty to continue to report on this story until they do.
Make it right Toby, and let's move on.
P.S. – I don't mean to pick on you personally. I'm seeing this sentiment many places, and I think this needed to be said.
That is because Indianapolis News stations broadcast what people don't like more than focusing on what people do like, anything negative and to smash another person is news here in good old Indiana; just like almost ever news station, everywhere. Notice they aren't asking or broadcasting videos from those that have recorded other parts of the show where Toby nailed it and did amazing, they are focusing only on the negative, which is what is wrong with the media. It's sad to think many people are smashing the show simply because they want a refund now that it's made the news. Even if Toby was too drunk let's focus on helping one another rather than smashing them in the news and social media. If you don't like him anymore, don't go to another show..it's as simple as that. I asked the same question…really why is this in the news???
There are no positive videos. People have been sending me videos all day. If there are videos that refute what is alleged, then by all means post them, and I will report on them. Otherwise the video evidence only corroborates what a majority of concert goers are saying.
Billy Crist
I think he as earned the right. . He is a true american!. Yea he might have had a few too many, but so what! I was there and had a great time right along with him. I could rant forever but as he said Saturday. . If you're not patriotic, then fuck you! !
Yes, so if you don't like Toby Keith, you're not patriotic.
I hate to say this but I to me this isn't a huge deal. If he was doing this on a regular basis, that would be one thing, but in his 20+ year career, how often has this happened? I of course am sorry to the people who spent money and saw this but now they can talk about how they were at that horrible Toby Keith show that everybody was talking about.
I know it sucks that these people paid for the one night Toby was drunk but artists being too impaired to play is nothing new or surprising. I do think Toby should create some kind of refund though.
And is it really that surprising, in an age where country is dominated by drinking songs and every major tour has an alcohol brand sponsoring it, that an artist was drunk on stage? I'm sure at least 30% of the crowd that went was planning on getting drunk anyway.
I don't think this is a "huge" deal either. It certainly isn't unprecedented. But it is news, and it is being made worse by Toby Keith being unwilling to apologize or at least acknowledge what happened. If that happened, this story would have been over on Sunday.
I do though, appreciate SCM posting about it, since clearly no other country outlets would dare run negative news stories about country music.
My Mom and Dad used to tell me stories all the time of the shows they saw when the main attraction was trashed.
Tom T. Hall was blasted one show and told stories through almost the entire evening… singing maybe 2 or 3 tunes.
Johnny Paycheck was at a different zip code when they saw him once.
They also said the Possum was pretty polluted at one of his shows they saw.
It seems to be much of a bigger deal now in these politically correct times. Now don't think that I condone an artist charging these ridiculous prices to fans and then not giving their money's worth.
Just seems like it was part of the territory back in the good ole days.
Heres the bottom line. George Jones, Johnny Cash, Ernest Tubb, Carl Smith Hank Williams Sr, Hank Williams Jr.,Waylon Jennings and several others have all done the same dam thing its just the way it is I am no Toby fan by a long shot but he screwed up and that's that end of story hes only human.. I can remember back in the early 90s when Bocephus did a couple shit shows it was like omg hes a raging drunk…. not so Ive seen him over 70 times live and only drunk once.. Toby screwed up no one knows whats going on for sure. But I think its kinda sickning that the man makes one mistake and everyone is freaking out it is what it is…
I think one of the growing misconceptions about this story is that "everybody is freaking out" or that somehow people are characterizing this situation as exceptional. Of course it has happened before, and of course it will happen again. I thin there's a huge difference between someone paying the modern day equivalent of $20 to see Hank Williams in 1952, and paying $300 to see Toby Keith. Hank Williams today would be the equivalent of a small club act. This story is not being driven by Saving Country Music or any other media outlet, it started with the fans who attended the event and felt ripped off, and it has continued to this point only because Toby Keith and Live Nation refuse to acknowledge it, or offer an apology. Toby Keith apologizes on Sunday, and none of these stories are written. Instead now his publicist says he's "never" been drunk at a show. NEVER. And the story continues to grow.
Don't misunderstand me, Trig. It's still an important article and it really is not fair of me to compare the greats of Country music to this episode. You're right. Things are way different now, namely being how the media operates.
Let us not forget what the press did to Jim Morrison, among others.
However none of this makes it right to be unprepared for what you are paid to do – entertain cohesively.
I'm all for having a few cold ones, but save it for after the show.
The right thing to do would be to go back and do another show for all the ticket holders.
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't break this dudes bank.
I was very disappointed in the concert on Saturday! I have taken my mom to see Toby at Klipsch in previous years and it was always a good show….I took my mom to see him again and this time wasn't so great! I'm not demanding a refund or anything crazy like that, but an apology from Toby Keith would be nice. I kept telling my mom during the show that he was drunk…I can't remember which song it was, but he sang the same line twice…and you could tell it messed the band up. I had several songs videoed on my phone, but was so disappointed, I deleted them! My mom and I were just sober concert goers hoping to see a good show. One reason I am a TK fan is because of the time he commits to our troops…I am a surviving sister to a man who gave his life during Dessert Storm…I LOVE PATRIOTIC SONGS….and TK ruined his on Saturday night!!! Very upset and disappointed fan!!!
Fans Say Toby Keith too drunk at Indiana concert | WANE
Trig, I will say one thing When Bocephus screwed up he did say he was sorry, and refund our money at least, when he did he was the entertainer of the year and at a higher point in his career than toby is in 2014, with that being said I did not start trashing him and boycott his music or shows and have never seen him drunk since. I personly would probly never go to see toby live but if I was a toby fan I would not let one bad experience stop me from being a fan or boycotting toby or his music..
That's exactly what Ashley Mayhew who was interviewed by the CBS station in Indianapolis said. She just wants an apology, like many of the people who attended a show. Haven't seen anyone call for a boycott, though I have seen many fans say they will never go to another Toby Keith concert again.
toby queaf
a fool and his money are soon parted
Pat Keenan
Now more than ever: SUPPORT LOCAL MUSIC. FUCK these over-paid under-talented paparazzi whore major label goofballs.
Michelle McNeill
I Have Gone to Many Toby Keith Concerts at Comcast Center Boston and He has always been Wonderful and So Patriotic , I have always said it was one of the the Best Concerts i have been to . Other than Bonjovi lol But He is Great and I love him and I am sure he will never Do that again and was Shocked to hear about it . Maybe his UN Happy Fans will get to try to see him again he Really does put on a Good show !!! He must of done some Shots not thinking lol and Really Tired not a good Combo !!
Ellmaxx
B happy you got to see him..he's been thru a lot this year..God Bless TK
My 5 yr old neice went to the concert with us and after the first few songs she looks at me and says, why does he not know the words to his own song? Even at one point he left stage( likely to throw up) and had a backup singer sing lady gaga for us??? Thanks Toby we will make sure not to go to another one of your concerts again
These are old posts but I feel the tragic death of his father and the fact his father had been an alcoholic (recovered), his punishing schedule,being away from his family….it's taken it's toll. I have seen what the death of my husband has done to us,especially our son. I am devastated but spend quite a bit of time helping our son through these horrible days without a father he loved so dearly. II sincerely hope Toby can clean his act up,trim that beard,not drink and look so scruffy, looks like he bathes….and be the Toby we all know and love. Your children are watching, Toby.
ANN. SHAR
HI. TOBBY. I. LOVE. YOUR. SONGS. I. HEAR. YOUR. SONGS. ALL. THE. TIME. GUESS. WHO. THIS. IS
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