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Pete Cohen talks to Steve and Mary Jo Siegel
This is our the best and the dearest, uh, patient who came to our clinic 20
and she was in the, she came with Hodgkin lymphoma, and a stage 4, and she didn't have good, uh, prognosis
How long, did they tell you
They told me that I was gonna die, of non-Hodgkins lymphoma
That I had a fatal disease
They would treat me for awhile with, uh, chemotherapy and radiation, um, a bone marrow transplant, and, um, we, they, we would see what would happen, but no cure
Not a cure at all
That was 22 years ago
Um, I thank God everyday that I found Dr. Burzynski's clinic, and Dr. Burzynski and his staff
Um, I was on his treatment for, um, 3 months when this huge tumor on the side of my neck started to reduce and finally disappeared
So we adopted her as our, uh, family
and now, she is our family member, and many others
So tell me, uh, how did you find out about Dr. Burzynski?
I was in a cancer support group, and, uh, one of the ladies in there said, you know, you have non-Hodgkins lymphoma
There's a doctor in Houston whose been treating it with very good results
You should go and check it out
Which I went back home to my husband and said: "There's Dr. Burzynski in Houston, Texas, and he's having good results," and, ah, Steve said: "You know, I've heard of this doctor
You know, I wrote his name down"
He'd heard about him
Wrote his name down for future use, and I think about, uh, the next couple of days we were in Houston, and we got to the clinic and I just felt I was in the right place
Everybody there
The feeling was so different than being at a UCLA or a USC or Dana Farber
It was just
I knew immediately I was in the right place, and I met Dr. Burzynski
Well first of all Dr. Barbara came out and hugged me, and, uh, it was, it was so wonderful and I'll never forget the feeling of, of, uh, my first walk into the Burzynski Clinic
So tell me, what did, uh, any, did, did you have an oncologist at home and tell them that you were coming here ?
Yeah, we did
Um, uh, I had an oncologist at UCLA who was a lymphoma specialist, and he was the one that told me I would die of the disease
Um, when we told him that we were going to see Dr. Burzynski, he wasn't, uh, overjoyed, to say the least, and he told us very negative things and, uh, but I thought, he wasn't offering me anything, and, uh, when I did get to the Burzynski Clinic, Dr. Burzynski said to me: "I think I can help you," he said
He didn't
He didn't tell me, he was going to cure me
He just said: "I think I can help you," and, it was non-toxic, and the, um, conventional medicine was offering me high-dose chemotherapy, radiation, and in fact, in mu, as much radiation as people who were, uh, within one mile of ground zero at Hiroshima, and, and they were going to bring me as close to death as possible, and then, rescue me
Uh, and then Dr. Burzynski was going to do this and actually have, where actually I would have hope of a cure, non-toxically
My hair never fell out
I felt well
Um, I lead my normal life
I drove my kids to school
I cleaned the house
It's a wonderful treatment
So, at what point did you realize, I'm free of cancer ?
Do you remember that point of ?
Uh, well I remember the point
I remember it very well
Um, the, it
It's so big
Um, I had, uh, several CAT scans
I had 2 CAT scans in a row
The first one that showed no cancer at all, and, um, I had them done at UCLA, and, um, and then I had a second one, 3 months later, and that one was, was absolutely clear
So, um, it was, it was an amazing feeling, and actually 48 hours was following me, because it was, it was a really a big story, um, you know
Cancer throughout my body
No, no cancer at all and, and my medical records show, um, you look at my X-rays, my CAT scans, from starting Dr. Burzynski's treatment, um, to approximately 9 months later
Reduction, reduction, reduction, until there was no cancer
So what did, what did your oncologist say ?
Did you, did you go back to your oncologist and say: "You said I was gonna die"
Uh, yes, we did that
And what did he say ?
And, and actually people would call him and a, people who were interested in Dr. Burzynski, and he would say: "Oh, she's a spontaneous remission"
He would never accept the fact that I was treated, and cured by Dr. Burzynski, but my medical records prove it, and of, you know I, There are so many patients like me
So ok, tell me
Let me ask you a couple more questions
What sort of a person do you think Dr. Burzynski is?
Well aside from being the most wonderful, gentle, sensitive, caring doctor, and you don't find many of those
I went to many doctors, while, while we were trying to find the answer
Many, and Dr. Burzynski is so above them
He, because he really makes you feel like a person, and that he cares, and, he's also a genius
He, I know that he speaks about 8 languages
He's an expert on the Bible
He, he just knows so much about everything
Um, I love to be in the room with him
He's a very special man
So, you recovered, and then, 'cause you, when did you set up the patient support group, and why did you do that ?
Uh, actually my husband and I did that together, and it was during, um, the trials, uh, the Texas State Board started, in fact, I became a patient, and 2 months later, ah, he was brought to a hearing in front of the Texas State Medical Board, and so Steve and I, um, organized the patients to, um, be at that hearing to support Dr. B, 'cause he'd been going through this long before I became a patient, but, um, we wanted to show support, because I was already starting to fe, I was feeling better already
I was already seeing some reduction, and now my, the medicine was in jeopardy
I, It could be taken away from me at any time
So we decided to organize the patients and to show support, and all the patients wanted to help, a, uh, obviously
So, um, we'd go to every hearing, every, uh, the trial, we were there every day, um, and we would, patients would march in front of the court building, um,
It was, it was really a sight
An unbelievable sight
And why do you think that he was treated the way that he was treated ?
Why do you think they wanted to take him down ?
I think it's because
There's many reasons
I think the main reason is because what Dr. Burzynski does is making what all other conventional doctors are doing wrong, because chemotherapy is not the answer
Chemotherapy makes people sick, and, uh, most of the time it does not cure people
Um, all that poison and radiation
There's gotta be a better way, and there is a better way
Dr. Burzynski has found it
I was sick
I had cancer 22 years ago
Um, my hair never fell out, and, uh, it was a treatment that I was grateful to be on every day
So how many patients have you come in contact with that Dr. Burzynski
Hundreds, and as you say by my patient group web-site
Um, I think I have about 90 stories on there now, and there are many more, because, um, I haven't been able to get in touch with everybody, but over the years, uh, people give me their stories
Sometimes people will call me, um, but we, we are a patient group because we, we've all been helped or cured by Dr. Burzynski, and we, we want everybody to have access to this treatment
Steve actually had the chance to ask one of, uh, one of the prosecutors, um, at the trial, that exact question: "What would you do," and he was prosecuting Dr. Burzynski, and he actually said: "I'd be first in line"
So, once you know the whole story, and you know the science, and you, especially if you do the research, um, you, you can come to the truth, and the truth is, Dr. Burzynski, has cured cancer
He cured me
I've been in remission for, in remission, for, uh, 22 years, and that's a cure, and, uh, he could help so many, many, many more people
The, he has breast cancer patients now that are, that are doing so well
He has many
I just talked to an ovarian cancer patient
He has, um, all, all different types of cancers
What he needs is funding from our government
Um, all other doctors and, and, um, institutions, they get ah, mu, get so much money from the government
Dr. Burzynski doesn't get one penny
If we could just think
If, d, if the government would just fund Dr. Burzynski, he could have a cure for all cancers
I believe that with all my heart, and somehow, some day this has to happen
The Sceptics (10:37)
Yeah, just tell me what this whole kind of skeptic movement
You do any research on Dr. Burzynski there's a few things
that always come up
This guy Saul
Saul Green
and some other stuff
So just tell me
What's that all about and where did that all come from ?
It stems from, uh, a lawsuit that was filed against, uh, Dr. Burzynski
Actually it was, uh, an insurance company, that didn't wanna pay for, uh, for the treatment
A particular patient had been treated here in Texas, uh, was put into remission
Was successfully treated and then it turns out the insurance company did not wanna pay for it, so they brought in these people
These quote unquote experts
Cancer experts of, you know, rather dubious backgrounds
This is all that they do, is they look for ways to demean people
They look for ways to blacken their reputation
They ultimately became a group known as Quack watch, and these were brought in as the expert witnesses to say that this is not an approved treatment, albeit, was not true
They said the treatment didn't work and clearly it did, and, uh, they have since gotten funding from insurance companies, from the government, private funding, and they go around to debunk things that are against mainstream, um, medicine, and, uh, their, their support comes from the insurance company and from the pharmaceutical companies who benefit from, from their work, and, uh, it expanded
Expanded all over the world to, uh, they're in the United States, they're in the U.K., they're in Australia, and, uh, they have a very big presence
When the internet came into being they, you know, they went viral with this kind of stuff
So when you type in Burzynski, uh, a lot of the negative comes up first
So that's the first thing you see is all this negative stuff, and it's all hearsay
None of it has any basis in fact
It's all lies
Um, you know, he, Dr. Burzynski never did anything illegal ever, and it was all based on, on very questionable legal grounds that he was ever sued, that he was, that any case was ever brought against him by the FDA or the Texas Medical Board, and all of those cases failed
They never held up to scrutiny
They all failed, and here Dr. Burzynski is today, and he's thriving, and people come here from all over the world to be treated
Many are cured of their cancers, and, uh, all of these people in the Quack watch are gone
Uh, Saul Green has passed away
Uh, I don't wish him ill, but I'm glad he's not here, thank you, and all of these other people are gone and they're not thriving, and they're just like, you know, they're like bacteria or like fungus under rocks, and when you shine a light on them, they can't hold up to the scrutiny
The real light is here
The real truth is here in Houston at the Burzynski Clinic
Thoughts on Dr. Burzynski (13:46)
What do you think of Dr. Burzynski, yourself ?
I, I, I think Mary Jo's pretty much summed it up
Uh, I, am of course
It, it, it's not an unbiased opinion
It can't be
He's the man that saved my wife
Uh, she was cast off, um, as, as, as an incurable
She was told time and time again, not just by her on, oncologist at UCLA, Dr. Peter Rosen, but we went all over the country
We went to USC in, University of Southern California, UCLA, Stanford Medical, Dana-Farber; which is associated with Harvard, uh, in, uh, Boston, and everywhere we went, she was told: "There's no hope"
"You're gonna die"
"It's just a matter of time"
"We have to see how long, how long it's gonna take"
Um, against my better wishes, we came to the Burzynski Clinic, and she said: "I'm starting today," and I said: "Don't you think we should go back and discuss with Dr. Rosen at UCLA ?
She said: "No, they have nothing to offer me"
She was that brave, and we started that day, and we've never looked, we've never looked back
So to ask me about what I think about Dr. Burzynski, when my wife was told she was gonna die, and I was already making plans for how am I going to take care of my children without Mary Jo; my life partner, and he saved her life, I'm not gonna give you unbiased
an unbiased opinion of how I feel about the man
There's probably nobody, that I have greater love and greater respect for, uh, in, in the whole world, and, uh, to add about how, how smart, how intelligent this man is, ah, expert on, on history as Barbara was saying
Expert on religion
He's an expert on mushrooms
He knows more about mushrooms than any 10 mushroom experts in the world
He knows about bees
Who cares about bees, but he knows everything, because bees happen to be a rich production source of antineoplastons
Who knew ?
Dr. Burzynski knew, and that's why we need to listen to him
We as a society
The world needs to listen to this man
Conventional Cancer Treatment and The FDA (16:05)
When you put some critical thought, critical analysis, you find that chemotherapy initially works
What it is, it's a good, the first time around it's a good tumor shrinking, they're good tumor shrinking agents, but over the long run they create so many problems that eventually, the tumor becomes, the cells become resistant and the tumor takes over, or, if it is successful in shrinking the tumor to, to a, a size where the patient can survive, what happens after that is there's a secondary cancer that's created by the chemotherapy, with very few exceptions
Testicular cancer is one exception where it works
Some childhood leukemia's they've had some great success with chemotherapy, but by in large it's a failed modality, and the side effects are so bad as, as to be called horrific, uh, is how I would describe them from what I've seen in, in my family and in my friends, and my associates that've had to undergo it
So why do we allow that, when something like antineoplastons and Burzynski's treatment, totally non-toxic, working with the body, allowing you to lead a normal life, and on it statistically for the number of people that have been treated, uh, compared to the number of people that have walked out of here in remission, or cured after 5 years; whatever definition you wanna use, we don't allow that
We look at that as, uh, conventional medicine looks at like that as, looks at that as some sort of quackery
This is, this is, uh, critical thinking and science turned on its head, and it doesn't make sense, and it goes back to what I was saying before
Why it doesn't make sense, because there's entrenched financial interests, and there's a paradigm that says we do for cancer, we do chemotherapy, we do radiation, we do surgery, and that's it
Anything else is not acceptable, because it goes against the paradigm
In the bureaucracy we know as the FDA
We've been fighting them for so long and they've been described as "The B Team"
"The B Team" is,that they be here when you come in and you start complaining, your problem starts, they be here, and when you decide to quit complaining because you've beat your head against the wall for so many years, they still be here (laugh)
So it's "The B Team"
They're bureaucrats
This is what they do
There, they have a certain set of tasks
Certain things that they're tasked with
Protection of the food and drug supply of the United States, whatever that means
Whatever they deem it to mean
Whatever they decide it means
That's what they're gonna do, and it's pretty hard to fight that
It's pretty hard, unless you have a political, unless you have a, a, a, a political, ah, constituency, and you can put a lot of pressure on them
and that's the only way
So what's the answer ?
What will, uh
How will Dr. Burzynski prevail ?
Ultimately, in, in my, in my, in my view, the real tragedy is, is that he's not going to prevail here in the United States
It's going to be extremely difficult
It's an uphill battle that, knowing Dr. Burzynski, he's gonna keep fighting it, uh, and, and he'll keep fighting that battle, but the real opportunity for him is to, uh, move this product and license it overseas, and, uh, other countries are interested
Other countries are more open, uh, to new modalities
They're not entrenched, uh, and don't have the financial, uh, interests, the, that are, the entrenched financial interests like we do here, like chemotherapy and, and, uh, radiation therapy, and I think that's where ultimately we as Americans, as sad as it is, are going to have to go overseas to be treated and to get this medication
The FDA is so capricious in their decision-making, and in their exception granting, uh, that if Pat had AIDS, and this was anti-AIDS medication; proven or not or only with limited, uh, proven efficaciousness, uh, and proven limited proof that it was somewhat non-toxic, she would be able to get approval like that
The FDA has taken a drug approval process that generally takes anywhere from 10 to 15 years, and where there is political, successful political pressure applied, they have reduced that down to some cases 4 to 8 months as in the case of the anti-HIV drugs, and that's because there is a very strong, very powerful political lobby in Washington, and throughout the country, and they have been able to apply pressure at key points in, uh, Congress
Congress puts that pressure on the FDA, says: "C'mon let's get the ball forward
These are voting people
We have millions of people in this country with HIV who are compacted together and make a viable political force
Let's move forward"
In the case of multiple-myeloma
In the case of these cancers or these people that wanna be treated, who have failed all conventional therapy, and wanna be treated by Dr. Burzynski with something that we know works
Something that is, is non-toxic, they, they don't have
We're not a viable political force
We're not important to the Washington bureaucrats, to the Washington lawmakers
So nothing gets done, and these exceptions for the use of antineoplastons are not granted, and that's, that's the sad truth
Steve and Mary Jo Siegel
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Pete Cohen talks with Burzynski Patient
2010 I was laying in on my couch; and I had been treated for cancer in the past, but evidentially reoccurrence, and I, I was so sick on my bed
Actually on the couch
I couldn't get up
My neighbor called me, uh, and, uh, I couldn't even, I had the phone next to me and I could answer it, but I think I was laying on the couch for about 2 days
Finally got a nurse over there to check my temperature, at 105.8
They rushed me to the hospital
Didn't even give me but a few days to live (laugh), and, uh, they wanted to treat me and do so forth, but my, uh, sister-in-law had been reading a little about the Burzynski Clinic
She gave me some information on it
There was a few other places that I was looking at, but I was felt lead to come here, and, uh, actually the doctors wouldn't even allow me out of the hospital to come here
They said I would never make it, and so, uh, my brother who insisted upon getting me out there
So I came out
Took a, a van
Took it
Came out here, and, uh, I couldn't walk
Couldn't hold a pencil in my hand
I could hardly sit up in a chair (laugh), much less anything else
And, uh, within, with just within a few weeks of, of some treatment I could actually get up and walk and so forth
Then as time went, I was able to walk a little more, and then I was able to drive, and now I'm being able to read and write and the whole thing, so, and as of today I just got my final report, and that final report, (?) the last report that I've actually, looked like there's no active cancer at all
There's some tumors left and some little shades here
So, I'm continuing on, on the treatment, but so far, I thank God, and I'm still here, and, uh, gave me some extra time here
So I'm thankful
So when were you first diagnosed with ?
I was diagnosed with, uh, lymphoma
Uh, we were going in for heart repla, my 6th hernia operation (laugh) and the found it in my abdomen, and so they immediately took me to the, get a port and get me on the chemo and so forth, and, uh, the 1st chemo treatment I, I almost didn't, I almost didn't survive
I was rushed to the hospital
They, they didn't expect me to make it the night
However, I did make it, and a couple times there were a couple problems there
Then I went through radiation and some, uh, some other treatment for about 2 or 3 years here
Some remission, uh
And what was your health like during that time ?
Uh, it was, my immune system was quite down
I was catching colds
I was getting pneumonia and things
Uh, not pneumonia but almost on the edge of it but always weak, and, uh, coming here, you know, it, it's a lot different
It, its reach a little more compassionately
There's a little bit more, uh, with not as much side effects and hardly as much side effects as, as, as the other treatments
Still been able to drive, fly, and everything else and, and, uh, so, uh, with the, I, I just find with the multi-approach that they have here, uh, you know, all the different ways they attack it, not just one or two different ways that should become standard, that doctors actually looked outside the box, and discovered things that, uh, uh, are, are just fantastic, and that's one of the things
I like to do a lot of research, and I just found, what I found here just clicked, and thank God I'm here today
So (laughing)
So the 1st time you had, when you were diagnosed
2000 you had chemotherapy
Radiation treatment, and I had some Zebulon radiation treatment and so forth
And then, how long were you kinda, well you can't (?)
Well (?), 2007 and then, uh, they wanted to do a bone marrow transplant, and they had to give me more dose of chemo which would have been stronger than the 1st, and I almost didn't make it the 1st time
So I just
You said "No"
I said I just, I just won't
I can't do that
And what did your oncologist say ?
Uh, well, he didn't have much of a choice
I didn't really wanna take that route
He says "Well, there's no other choice," basically
There's nothing more we can do for you
Well, no
That's, that's, that's
(?) go home and die
That was their
That was their next line of treatment, that, and that was it
Bone marrow transplants, so forth, uh, which, you know, that's within their perimeter, but here he treats it a little but more outside, with the different, different methods that he has, with the DNA and the, and the, uh, uh, treating the vascular part of the cell, uh, and the tumor, to choke off the supply of the nutrients, and so forth
Uh, just the whole multi-faceted approach, which actually, uh, which, which I, when I read it I said "Wow, here's one that's really on top of this thing," and, and I know there's been some, uh, uh, uh, envy sometimes from the (laughing) medical field, and that's just natural of anything
I mean, I've been in real estate for years, and worked, uh, different ways that, you know, when you come up with a different method, a lot of people don't want to change so easy
So I'm pretty familiar with that
Uh, so I just, I just have found that, uh, uh, just the overall way I've been treated here
It's just, it's just really refreshing
So you, you, you came down here when, which, in?
You came down (?)
From Miami
From actually Fort Lauderdale
And, um, how soon, you said it was in a couple of weeks you were
Yeah, within, within a few weeks I was actually starting to feel a bit better
I was starting to walk a bit more
I couldn't even walk 10 feet without, you know, being so exhausted
Then I'd walk up to 50 feet
Then I'd walk up to 100 feet
Then I'd, by the time Christmas came around I flew back to Orlando to visit my sister and, uh, I was actually able to walk about 5 or 6 blocks to go to the grocery store and back
Got, got lost somewhere
You know, the realization that you were alive and you were well again ?
Well, you know, uh, uh, again, uh, I was at the point before, and I have my, I have peace with my maker so I don't know, one way, way I'd have gone if have been happy (?) but I,
You were prepared to go
but I'm prepared to go, but I have a young daughter and, uh, and a lot of family still here
So I didn't wanna, I didn't wanna go just yet (laughing)
So I'm thankful, with the treatment and by the grace of God I'm still here, and so, I look at, uh, uh, uh, you know, where I was at
Uh, I just, uh, realized the direction I was given to come out here, uh, and, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, took advantage of it, and you see what, what took place
And, and what, what treatment were you on when you 1st came here ?
I wasn't really on any treatment at the time
I, I, I, I wasn't going to go back and do the bone marrow although it's still an option and some people might wanna use it
I just wanted to do it different, way
And what treatment did they put on, on, put you on when you came here ?
Uh, well they gave me, I did take some infusions to get my health back into shape
I was, uh, uh, a little malnourished here and there, uh, they uh, uh, uh
I'm not really coherent really what was going on back then
Yeah, right
My brother, and sister-in-law, and my sister were all here with me
They were kinda keeping on top of things
I was kinda trying to just keep breathing
So, uh, and what about
I vaguely remember some of the things I went through
I couldn't even get out of bed in some instances, and my folks had to help me here and there
What about now ?
Uh, in, in regarding ?
Your health now
What, what
Well, uh, I, I, I feel, uh, I feel good
I mean, there, there's still, uh
I mean I
I'm, uh
I used to play football years ago
I still have a lot of injuries from that and I'm still (laughing)
I'm walking around with, but other than that I feel pretty good
I mean I, you know, I'm very thankful, I'm
I've been able to go out and do a number of things I hadn't been able to do before
I spend time with my daughter as much as I can, and I'm very grateful for that
It makes a big difference
Yeah, I bet
Um, I just, uh, uh, I'm grateful for, for, you know, the way the doctors treat and the staff here
Uh, the I.V. nurses have just, I mean, uh, have just been phenomenal for me and I'm just, I'm very grateful for what they've done here
The welcoming committee
They keep on top of what's going on
They know where you're at
So why do you think more people aren't treated the way you're treated as far as cancer's concerned ?
Well I, well I think there's, uh, you know, uh
Anytime there's anything new, there's always a hesitation, uh, which in a way is reasonable, but when you begin to see it documented and coming forth to be true, then you pretty much know it's more established, and so you, uh, are more willing to go in that direction and, uh, I, uh, what I went through before I didn't really want to go through again, uh, with the chemo and the radiation and so forth
Uh, I just, uh, uh, you know, I almost didn't last through it
So I, I was just looking for something different and this, this is where I came
So I'm, I'm thankful for it, uh, and I've mentioned it to a number of people, that have asked me, uh, over the course of the year, and I've, been able to talk to a number of people that have been here
I mean, I've met people from, uh, South Africa, Turkey, uh, Japan, ah, Australia
They'd all come over here for treatment
So, I mean, I've kept in contact with a number of them
So it's really a joy to meet some of the other people treated successfully here
So, uh, yeah, uh, uh, I just,
Maybe, uh, you know, with the, with the set way that the medical field is, resistant in change, plus there's a big, you know there's, uh, big monetary issue about, you know, something comes in, it's a little bit more efficient
You know, I don't want to get into a lot of the motives, but I'm just grateful for what
uh, they've done here for me, so, and it's been successful so far, so I'm thankful
I know how the resistance is, when there's something new that comes along, and what happens, uh, there may be a monetary motive to prevent, uh, you know, the, the, I hate to say that but we're human, and so, you know, if, if, if, somebody comes up with something that's a better way to treat, there's all kinds of things that the person goes through their mind and their heart to what they're thinking about, uh, you know, it's kind of a threatening thing to the industry because they, they're going to lose out on it
if they're not on top of that
So, it becomes a threat in a sense, and it shouldn't be, but that's human nature
A lot of times human nature comes out that way and you see it in anything
You see it in the medical field
You see it in, in the real estate field
You see it in the legal field
You see it in all kinds of things to where it can get into a self-fulfilling type of thing, when something comes along, that's very profitable
It's not necessarily always going to get in the forefront because it's, there's a lot of, uh, blocks and blockades in the way to prevent that from happening
Some, some of it good and some of it bad, and that's just because of human motives, uh, of competition, so forth
Burzynski Patient Interview #1
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Wikipedia or Wikipediantic ? – wants your 3 pounds of flesh (WikiPEEdia, UR all INe)
[WP:SOP] "Statement of principles from Wikipedia founder Jimbo Wales, as updated by the community since then. 7.")
Due & undue weight: [3]
"The relative prominence of each viewpoint among Wikipedia editors or the general public is not relevant & should not be considered,"
[WP:NPOV] "History of NPOV:" (Content # 6, Note 3)
(Neutral Point of View)
TRANSLATION: Wikipedia editors, YOUR OPINION IS NOT RELEVANT
MEANING: It is meaningless to attempt to slather your biased OPINION all over Wikipedia like butter on Texas toast, since supposedly, we only care about verifiable FACTS
Wikipedia, what the problem is ?
Jimmy Donal Wales
No, "The Who" is actually really British !
(as opposed to some "furreigner" who plops across the pond, wants to pound one of your pelts after a celebrity hunt, pops it in his bonnet, pip-pips about, and mounts it up on his rented wall along with what's left of his balls)
I'm writing, of course, about "Jimbo," the one who got away . . . Thankfully
The recipient of the write-up earlier this year in The New York Times [1] (Oh, pithy !!)
Wales, who no longer runs the day-to-day operations of Wikipedia
"He applies his libertarian worldview to the Internet and has taken on institutions like the United States government"
You must be bloody well right joking me
(joking me ? Quit jokin' me !)
JimCrow's 'bout as "libertarian" as Fidel Castro with a gun in his hand and (f)lies between his teeth; from traveling with the windows down
Stephen Colbert shoulda seen that comin' from a 8 mile away
Hey Stephen, Report' THAT !!!
"He grew up in Huntsville, Ala., the son of a teacher and a retail man"
And obviously, he didn't "learnt" well
I think a refund's in order
And here's your free school Insolence to go with it
Happy eat in'
It is claimed that "HE" spends time:
"traveling the world giving talks on free speech and Internet freedom"
seriously ?
Seriously ??
SERIOUSLY ???
Welcome to MizFitTV
What would "Jymboree" know about "free speech" and "Internet freedom," anyway ?
How many days did you serve your country in the United States military ?
Oh, you did NOT realize that while you were in San Diego, you could have signed that contract ?
After all, he's no Vincent Kennedy McMahon"
("HE" knows where "HIS" GRAPEFRUITS are)
"B.D.F.L., or the Benevolent Dictator for Life"
How 'bout:
Loser ?
"Argumentum ad Jimbonem" means dutifully following what Wales says, but there are even arguments about that"
WP:NICETRY, but that's "SHEEPLE"
"One Wikipedia editor said, for instance, that Wales was no longer comfortable with the B.D.F.L. description"
Jiminy Cricket !
Whazzamatta Jiminy?
Did "FASCIST" hit a bit too close to home ?
"(There is, among some, a debate over what to call him)"
"Some users have also disputed the Latinized version of "Jimbo.""
"(Should it be "Jimboni" or "Jimbini"?)"
Can you smell what "The Rock" is cookin' ?
La-La-La-La-Laaaaaaawwww, JIMBRONI !!!!!!!
Get ready, and bend over, 'cause I'm gonna shine this thing up, turn it sideways, and shove it straight up your Candy AstroTurf hatch
Introduction (statement of principles) [WP:SOP]
"This is a statement of principles from Wikipedia founder Jimbo Wales, as updated by the community since then"
(Or if you go by The New York Times article, [1] Jimbroni is the "co-founder" who tries to re-write history to make it appear that "HE" is the one-and-only Fascist Founder ?)
"I should point out that these are my principles, such that I am the final judge of them"
"This does not mean that I will not listen to you, but it does mean that at some ultimate, fundamental level, this is how Wikipedia will be run"
No, actually, it DOES mean that he will NOT listen to you, as was the case when he ignored my 2/7/2013 appeal
In his defense, perhaps Kate Garvey has his balls
1. "Wikipedia's success to date is entirely a function of our open community"
"This community will continue to live and breathe and grow only so long as those of us who participate in it continue to Do The Right Thing"
"Doing The Right Thing takes many forms, but perhaps most central is the preservation of our shared vision for the neutral point of view policy and for a culture of thoughtful, diplomatic honesty"
The problem with this Wacky Tobacky "We are the (Wiki) World" WikiWhOReD Wonderland Jimbroni's living in, is that "HE" has NOT been Doing The Right Thing since "HE" abdicated "his" "neutral point of view policy" and "culture of thoughtful, diplomatic honesty," to "The Skeptics"
"The Skeptics," who serve as gatekeepers of the Burzynski Clinic article, and who cite Dr. David H. Gorski a/k/a "Orac" aka GorskGeek as if he were a "reliable source"
"The Skeptics," who bring new meaning to the term "Wikipedia Zero"
"The Skeptics," who are Intellectual Cowards like their false god Gorski, the Closet Communist of Science-Based Medicine a/k/a Science-Basted Medicine aka Science-Based Mudicine (Spinning Bowel Movement), Wiki Wordsmith Wannabes, nut-jobbers, stale from their failure at the National Peanut Festival in Dothan, Alabama
3. ""You can edit this page right now" is a core guiding check on everything that we do"
"We must respect this principle as sacred"
Do the lies just dribble off your chin like phlegm?
You canNOT just go in and "edit" the Burzynski Clinic article "page right now"
That statement is pure, unadulterated Alabama B.S.
That's NOT a "sacred principle," it's sacré "bull"
7. "Anyone with a complaint should be treated with the utmost respect and dignity"
Unfortunately, you do NOT practice what you preach, do you, HYPOCRITE ?
"They should be encouraged constantly to present their problems in a constructive way"
So that you can ignore the problem(s), right, Jimbroni ?
"Anyone who just complains without foundation, refusing to join the discussion, should simply be rejected and ignored"
THAT would automatically exclude all of "The Skeptics" now, wouldn't it ?
"We must not let the "squeaky wheel" be greased just for being a jerk"
Jimbroni, why have you allowed "The Skeptics" to choose from their "squeaky" wheel-house bag o' tricks, get all "greased" up and jerk" so many people around in such a big CIRCLE-JERK, for so long?
8. "Diplomacy consists of combining honesty and politeness"
"Both are objectively valuable moral principles"
"Be honest with me, but don't be mean to me"
"Don't misrepresent my views for your own political ends, and I'll treat you the same way"
"Honesty" and "politeness" are really great "buzzwords," Jimbroni, but they are as foreign to your "Skeptics," as "moral principles"
A great example of the questionable "honesty" and "moral principles" of one of your apparatchiks, was demonstrated 2/3/2013, 6:56, when I sent an arbitration appeal e-mail to Wikipedia, advising, in part, that the e-mail listed on Wikipedia; as the one that blocked users should use, did NOT work, because there was NO "@" sign in it
There was a . (period) where the "@" sign belonged
2/3/2013, 8:11 AM, Anthony (AGK) BASC
wikiagk@gmail.com advised:
"Everything you have said in that e-mail demonstrates a misunderstanding or misreading of Wikipedia policy"
Check the "time" and "place" where you are, so that you, too, can advise, that according to Wikipedia, pointing out to them that the e-mail they advise people to use, DOES NOT WORK; because there is no "@" sign in it (instead, there's a . (period)), translates into meaning:
Wikipedia:Simplified ruleset [WP:SR]
Wikipedia does not have its own views, or determine what is "correct"
I wish I could LIE like that, but I have a conscience
12/24/2012, Monday – 3:52 pm – 21:52 (UTC) –
"We are told that 2013 will be a big year, but apparently his plan is to release another bullshit movie not to publish useful research"
[User Talk:JzG|Guy] ([User JzG/help|Help!]) [2]
"Bullshit movie" ?
Does anyone other than me NOT think it a "coinkydink" that some "Guy" on Wikipedia, going by the name "Guy", using the same 2 words ("Bullshit movie") as a "Guy" on Twitter ?
2. Founding principles:
"Neutrality is mandatory . . . "
I call B.S.
"Neutrality is mandatory," EXCEPT on the Burzynski Clinic article, controlled by "The Skeptics"
4. "Ignore all rules (IAR):"
"Rules on Wikipedia are not fixed in stone"
Especially when Jimbroni allows "The Skeptics"
to "dictator" the "rules"
"The spirit of the rule trumps the letter of the rule"
"The common purpose of building an encyclopedia trumps both"
"This means that any rule can be broken for a very good reason, if it ultimately helps to improve the encyclopedia"
And "The Skeptics" are NOT required to provide ANY reason for having broken "any rule"
"It doesn't mean that anything can be done just by claiming IAR, or that discussion is not necessary to explain one's decision"
But do NOT expect Wikipedia to require anything from The Skeptics"
Founding principles
1. "Neutral point of view (NPOV) as a mandatory editorial principle"
EXCEPT when it comes to the Burzynski Clinic article
12/26/2012 – I attempted to get Wikipedia to reference the interview which Burzynski's attorney, Richard (Rick) A. Jaffe, and Lola Quinlan's attorney; who posted it on his web-site, had given: [4]
Please add re WP:NPOV that Burzynski's attorney, Richard Jaffe has disputed Lola Quinlan's claims:
"On February 1, 2012, Dr. Burzynski's attorney, Richard Jaffe, disputed Lola Quinlan's allegations on Houston's KPRC News."
Thank you very much.[[User: Didymus Judas Thomas 15:03, 12/26/2012 (UTC)
So? [OR] Disputing it in the media probably means he doesn't have a case. [/OR] In any case, a lawyer disputing the allegations against his client is not even news. — [[User: Arthur Rubin 15:24, 12/26/2012 (UTC)
Arthur Rubin, I'm not sure what relevance your above post has re WP:NPOV since the article includes statements from attorneys representing both sides
17:51, 12/27/2012 (UTC) Didymus Judas Thomas
12/24/2012, Monday – 3:54 pm (21:54.UTC) – "What they mean is that nobody else is doing any meaningful work on it, which necessarily means that it's not considered in the least promising."
[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]] ([User JzG/help|Help!])
"Nobody else is doing meaningful work on it" ?
Ignores independent research done in Poland, Russia, Korea, Egypt, Japan, & China which specifically reference SRB's publications in their publications re antineoplastons & phenylacetylglutamine (PG); which is AS2-5, & includes phase III trials published in China & continued research being published in China 12/17/2012?
1. I pointed out to Wikipedia, a 12/17/2012 scientific publication re antineoplastons, which referenced Burzynski @ 22. (antineoplaston AS21)
2. 7 days after this scientific journal was published, Wikipedia'a "Guy (Help!'s) "response, Monday, 12/24/2012 @ 3:54 pm, is to advise me:
"What they mean is that nobody else is doing any meaningful work on it, which necessarily means that it's not considered in the least promising."
Guy (Help!) 3:54 pm, 12/24/2012, Monday
3. So, Wikipedia's, Guy (Help!), defines an event having been published 7 days ago (12/17/2012 to 12/24/2012) as:
"…nobody else is doing any meaningful work on it…"
CDA-2 (cell differentiation agent 2), a URINARY preparation
http://po.st/g71N8P
CDA-2 and its main component PHENYLACETYLGLUTAMINE (PG or PAG)
Antineoplaston AS2-5 is PHENYLACETYLGLUTAMINE (PAG or PG)
http://redd.it/1dk974
Antineoplaston AS2-1 is a 4:1 mixture of phenylacetic acid (PA) and PHENYLACETYLGLUTAMINE (PAG or PG)
Antineoplastons AS2-5 and AS2-1 are derived from Antineoplaston A10
BURZYNSKI Reference: 22.
antineoplaston AS21
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0052117
12/26/2012, Wednesday – 12:43 – "There is unlikely to be any dispassionate debate over ANPs while Burzynski continues with his unethical practices."
JzG|Guy User:JzG/help|Help!
Wikipedia: Judge, Jury, Executioner
"The world, right now, considers Burzynski to be at best unethical and at worst a quack…"?
Since when did Wikipedia conduct a world-wide "opinion poll" re Burzynski ?
And if Wikipedia is correct, how did this happen ?
Burzynski referenced by other Cancer researchers:
2011 – Phase II trial of tipifarnib and radiation in children with newly diagnosed diffuse intrinsic pontine gliomas
Rhode Island Red attempts to get away with misquoting me:
"The other argument is that the secondary sources (i.e., respected cancer organizations, FDA, etc.) are not reliable because they are Burzynski's "competitors"
[[User: Rhode Island Red]] 4:18 pm, Yesterday (UTC−6)
What a Wipocrite (Wiki + Hypocrite)
Steve Pereira (SilkTork) is such a "WIPOCRITE," that he claims:
"the community were united that your contributions were biased"
He conveniently; like a good little mini-Jimbroni would, ignores ALL of his fellow WIPOCRITES comments, which completely ignored:
([WP:SOP] "Statement of principles from Wikipedia founder Jimbo Wales, as updated by the community since then. 7.")
1. 12/24/2012, Monday – 3:52 pm – 21:52 (UTC) – "We are told that 2013 will be a big year, but apparently his plan is to release another bullshit movie not to publish useful research"
2. 12/24/2012, Monday – 3:54 pm (21:54.UTC) – "What they mean is that nobody else is doing any meaningful work on it, which necessarily means that it's not considered in the least promising."
3. 12/26/2012, Wednesday – 12:43 – "There is unlikely to be any dispassionate debate over ANPs while Burzynski continues with his unethical practices."
4. 12/30/2012 8:58 "The world, right now, considers Burzynski to be at best unethical and at worst a quack…"?
Am I NOT the only one convinced that "the community" was also "united" in something more than just their "goose-stepping ?
Pereira, the imperfect 'pedia Pimp tries to Wow his readers by waxing WikiWhOReD, by ignoring that ALL the previous BIASED opinion B.S. that his fellow-Facist forged ahead with, and which Wikipediantic history says means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING (say it again) because it is their BIASED OPINION and is ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS, and it was as so much WikiLitter, well, he's just facist-free speechless about that, as any Jimbroni AstroTurf Twerk should be
To show exactly what zealots these WikiPimps are, just absorb this exchange:
"The Burzynski Clinic Article has:
"…a Mayo Clinic study found no benefit…."
But that was not what the study concluded
Although we could not confirm any tumor regression in patients in this study, the small sample size precludes definitive conclusions about treatment efficacy."
In the interest of Neutrality, please remove the reference to Mayo entirely or change to;
"…a Mayo Clinic study found that "the small sample size precludes definitive conclusions about treatment efficacy."
Didymus Judas Thomas 21:12, 12/10/2012
"How is "found no benefit" not a a fair and pithy description of the Mayo Clinic study's summary?"
Alexbrn 21:24, 12/10/2012
"I feel this should be changed under WP:NPOV because not every reader is going to understand the "Fair & Pithy" reason I was provided
I feel that the average reader reading this will read it as meaning a study was done & completed with the necessary # of people for an effective study, when that was not the conclusion as pointed out in my above post
That's right !
"NO RESPONSE" from the "mini-b" (a/k/a "mini-brain"), wannabe Fascists who are so zealous about using their alleged "Fair and Pithy" "found no benefit" WikiWhOReD; which they utilize in an effort to deceive those who are NOT smarter than a fifth-grader
These WikiPimps are so certain of the righteousness of their evangelical cause, that they do NOT even have the "GRAPEFRUITS" to use what the study's conclusions actually said, and let the chips fall where they may
There are a lot of "chips" falling at Wikipedia
"BULL CHIPS"
JIMBRONI, you're no Maggie Thatcher
You can't even wear her pants
Margaret Thatcher: "The Iron Lady"
Jimbroni: "No iron in the pants"
Jimbroni's list of Facist, mini-Hitler, Monty Pythonesque Women's underwear wearing Wannabes on Wikipediantic:
1. Alexbrn
2. fluffernutter
3. NE Ent
4. Choyooł'įįhí:Seb az86556 (Seb az86556)
5. Tom Morris
6. Guerillero
7. Dave Dial
8. John
9. Nstrauss
10. Yobol
11. Drmies
12. foxj
13. Ironholds
14. Rhode Island Red
15. Anthony (AGK) BASC wikiagk@gmail.com
16. Steve Pereira (Silk Tork) silktork@gmail.com
WikiWhOReD (Wiki + Word + Whore): Pimping a word. Attempting to deceive someone by means of misdirection with words
The South will rise again, just not in Jimbroni's pants
Happy Friday the 13th, Wikipediantic
[1] – 6/27/2013 – Jimmy Wales Is Not an Internet Billionaire (By AMY CHOZICK):
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/magazine/jimmy-wales-is-not-an-internet-billionaire.html
[2] – 12/24/2012, Monday – 3:52 pm – 21:52 (UTC) – [User Talk:JzG|Guy] ([User:JzG/help|Help!])
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Burzynski_Clinic&diff=next&oldid=529537854
[3] – 12/26/2012 – Lola A. Quinlan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Burzynski_Clinic&diff=prev&oldid=529836971
Houston's KPRC News:
http://m.click2houston.com/news/Houston-cancer-doctor-draws-new-complaints-from-patients/-/16714936/8581480/-/hmrbjk/-/index.html
Lola A. Quinlan's attorney's web-site:
http://www.jag-lawfirm.com/burzynski-suit-kprc-02012012.html
[4] – –
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Didymus_Judas_Thomas&diff=next&oldid=528610760
These mini-b's went so far as to allege all sorts of sockpuppetry
Wikipediantic, why don't you list all the dates and times I was supposedly doing all of these activities; and don't forget to include all the time I spent blogging, on Twitter, making comments on articles, etc., and once you have all that data compiled, explain how one individual could do all that in a 24-hour day
That's right Wikipediantic
I'm challenging you to put up or shut up your cornholio
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Critiquing: Families run out of hope, money after cancer treatments (USA TODAY NEWS, NATION, Liz Szabo, USA TODAY)
Liz Szabo
Michael Stravato
Jerry Mosemak
Robert Hanashiro
Before you write a Hack Piece
Check Your Facts Please
The 3rd, and thankfully final segment of USA TODAY's "hit-piece" of irresponsible yellow journalism about Dr. Stanislaw R. Burzynski [1], contains the following:
"Patients stay in hotels while visiting him"
Pete Cohen made this movie about his and
Hannah Bradley's trip to the Burzynski Clinic
It does NOT look like they stayed in a hotel [2]
The article continues:
"If children deteriorate, they often end up in the closest emergency room, said physician Jeanine Graf, director of the pediatric intensive care unit at Texas Children's Hospital in Houston, who says she has treated at least a dozen of Burzynski's patients"
In the 2nd segment of USA TODAY's yellow journalism "hit-piece," the reader was advised that Burzynski had treated [3]:
" . . . more than 8,000 patients since 1977."
Physician Jeanine Graf, "says she has treated at least a dozen" of Burzynski's "more than 8,000 patients,"
This means that Dr. Graf has treated LESS THAN 0.15% of Burzynski's patients
The article indicates that:
"Typically, Graf sees Burzynski's patients after they have become unresponsive, unable to open their eyes or breathe on their own"
"Graf says she's never seen Burzynski attending to them"
Why would she ?
Does she ride in the ambulance to and from the clinic ?
As the article makes clear:
"While Burzynski often meets patients on their first trip to the clinic, Jaffe said he is"
"not the treating physician of the clinic's patients"
"The doctors on Burzynski's staff have admitting privileges at local hospitals and "attend to patients as needed," Jaffe said"
And she continues:
"And describing her personal experience with Burzynski's patients, Graf says,"
"I've never seen one survive long-term."
Are we supposed to believe that pediatric physician Jeanine Graf keeps track of the "more than 8,000 patients" that the article claims Burzynski has treated ?
Continuing on, the article also claims:
"The unlucky ones end up broke, spending everything on medicine, airfare, hotel rooms and meals while in Houston, Graf says"
"Burzynski's attorney, Richard Jaffe, notes that all cancer care is expensive"
"I think the clinic's policies are a lot more charitable than the big institutions," Jaffe says"
6/25/2013 – Medical Bills Are the Biggest Cause of US Bankruptcies [4]
"Bankruptcies resulting from unpaid medical bills will affect nearly 2 million people this year—making health care the No. 1 cause of such filings . . . according to new data"
". . . estimates that households containing 1.7 million people will file for bankruptcy protection this year"
"Even outside of bankruptcy, about 56 million adults—more than 20 percent of the population between the ages of 19 and 64—will still struggle with health-care-related bills this year . . ."
"Despite the anticipated 2013 dip, such bankruptcies represent about three out of every five filings"
2007 – How Many Americans Go Bankrupt Due to Medical Purposes Each Year? [5]
"2007, a Harvard study shows that at least 60% of bankruptcies are related to medical bills"
"Even people with health insurance are filing bankruptcy"
"Insurance premiums, deductibles, co-pay, and out of pocket expenses cause medical bills to drown individuals and families in medical debt"
"Harvard also discovered that 75% of those filing bankruptcy for medical reasons had health insurance"
"It is clear that having health insurance is no guarantee against carrying debt related to health care"
Burzynski has treated more than 8,000 patients since 1977
8,000 divided by 36 years equals an average of:
222 patients per year
Burzynski is obviously NOT the problem
Liz Szabo, Michael Stravato, Jerry Mosemak, and Robert Hanashiro
Don't quit your day jobs
USA TODAY needs to generate readership somehow !!!
Sarcasm . . . deal with it
[1] – 11/15/2013
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/15/jeanine-graf-cancer-children/2994675/
[2] – Hannah's Anectdote:
[4] – 06/25/13 2:29 PM ET—By CNBC's Dan Mangan @danpostman
[5] – 2007 – Written by James Hirby | Fact checked by The Law Dictionary staff
http://thelawdictionary.org/article/how-many-americans-go-bankrupt-due-to-medical-purposes-each-year/
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We wouldn't touch potatoe plants, they taste bad!
We say stick with Fuzzypants!
Did you really get "into" the mashed potatoes???
Is there a picture of the mashed potato pants?
Mashed potatoes AND fuzzy pants have nothin' on salmon!
We think we would stick with the fuzzy pants.
You'll always be fuzzypants to us, Nicky!
We think da mashed potato pants would only last until somecat licked dem off...den yoo'd haf no pants.
What Zippy, Sadie and Speedy said!


I spent about an hour & a half visiting with Al Wulf before I left town. Got home about 7:45Ppm. Log day on a short night;s rest. Plus, my cruise control completely quit. Anyway, 7 hours, five States, & somehow missed all the rain.
#21 in a row in the books. ;) What a 3 day weekend!
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Joe! Can't believe I missed you!! Have wanted to meet you in person and see your car too. Next year?
Carl, how's Al? Stints all installed and going home soon I hope.
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Thanks to everyone who attended...it was great seeing all you guys!
Also, Jean Ingram (and Rick) assisted continuosly during that critical time frame when Al initially entered the hospital (and after)...so thankful your efforts!
Again...Al, Kay and I thoroughly enjoyed seeing everyone in Dayton and look forward to meeting up with many of you in Townsend later on this year and of course next year in Wythville, Va.
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Triple thanks to Jean for recognizing Al's issues on the walk back from Bob Evan's!
Thanks to Mike and Al for a great meet. I'm happy that Al is okay. Saw him unloading his car, so stopped to help him, noticed he wasn't all there, so stuck around until he got it off safe.
Brenda and I had some followers going to our destinations because we took all side roads. Found some nice roads through the trees and over rivers.
We are up in La Crosse WI at a RV park on the river and going to VTR 2018. Then travel across going west, arrive home towards the end of the month.
Perk and I made the shop about 3:30 PM after a stop for diner as if we hadn't eaten enough.
Supper meeting and great people. What could be better?
Al, Mike, and Kay I had a fantastic time. Did you notice I was smiling a lot?
Jean and I got home about 1:30pm CDT on Sunday.
The Roadmaster ran flawlessly...and I got about 18mpg (while running the a/c), based on the car's odometer....which I will compare to GPS mileage reading on my next journey outside of town.
The addition of EPS and A/C make the car....comfortable. We could use a little more ducting on the a/c.
BritishV8 2018 was fantastic.....Al and Mike did a great job in the planning and execution of this event! THANK YOU!
WOW George, thanks for the place of Honor! Appears we are keeping very good company. Beautiful Bar!
Got this from Ralph Ratta this afternoon......gives a great "overview" of the parking lot and some of the conversions and enthusiasts in attendance that day.
Does anyone know the status of the apparel that had to be reordered for the Dayton Gathering? Thought they were supposed to be ordered the end of July and it's been a month since then. I am waiting for 2 T's, a polo shirt, and a ball cap. Hope we can get them soon.
Thank you for the reply. Hopefully the orders can be worked out soon. Would be nice to have them for the gathering in Townsend.
Oh I'm so sorry I missed this!
I am a Dayton Ohio native and the body man for the Packard Museum downtown.
I would have loved to had a group come through the Packer Museum and show ya'll more than most see, including the basement with a bunch of cool cars , including several Jaguars!
The principal of the Packard Museum is not only crazy about Packards, he is also INSANE for Jaguars .. there's also a 1910s Indian motorcycle in unrestored, but surprisingly nice condition, hidden away.
Several of the better restaurants in Dayton are owned by friends of mine also..
Here's some pics of what you missed, Jay.
That Packard Museum basement tour would have been awesome for us gearheads!


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In a Shocking Twist, This Game Stars Normal-Looking People. Some Of Them Are Even Old.
Filed to:Spy party
"This needs to be a subtle art style to go with a subtle game," Chris Hecker told me during our latest conversation about one of the contenders for World's Most Interesting Video Game.
All Hecker and I were ostensibly doing was talking about the first look he was giving me at the characters in Spy Party, his forever-in-the-making multiplayer game that pits one player as a one-shoot-instant-kill sniper and the other as a spy who has to accomplish a few bugging/briefcase-swapping-type missions before being caught and killed. The spy tries to blend in with computer-controlled partygoers; the sniper player tries to figure out which partygoer is the spy and must shoot them before the timer runs out.
All he was doing was showing me some character renders by Hecker's former Spore colleague John Cimino. But, as things go with Spy Party we were actually talking about something as big as all video games.
We were talking about the kind of people you see in games, the kind of people you get to play as. Spy Party's playable cast might look normal in the real world. But next to most gaming heroes, they're downright exotic. Old, young, white, black.
Cimino's illustrations of five of the game's 25 playable characters showed, Hecker believes, the "envelope of the art", the extent to which the cast of his game will be diverse. He's proud he has an older woman and a younger one who doesn't have big breasts. Even his most studly male character has some gray in his hair.
"The gameplay itself in my game is more mature. It's more psychological. It's more about behavior. If the cast reflects that, then so be it."
If these characters and the other 20 or so that Cimino will draw for the game seem a bit old for playable characters in a multiplayer game, Hecker doesn't care. He's not trying to have a young, bald marine in it. And he obviously can't have kids in this party where anyone can be sniped.
"The minimum age will be above whatever age that is appropriate to shoot someone in the head, in a game where it actually matters when you're shooting someone in the head, not just running around shooting 4,000 dudes in the head. Pulling the trigger is a big deal in my game, so it needs to be age-appropriate. And the gameplay itself in my game is more mature. It's more psychological. It's more about behavior. If the cast reflects that, then so be it."
He started telling me about how he wants a character in a wheelchair and how the diversity of the cast will even impact the gameplay. Beta testers currently experiment with playing their spy as a skinny woman, for example, so they can't be seen as clearly if they're trying to plant a bug on a fat ambassador. The wheelchair person might not be able to move around as well, but they would be lower and harder to keep an eye on, Hecker figured.
Diversity as a gameplay asset! Really, what other game developer gets to talk about this?
Hecker told me how he brought Cimino on board about a year ago, in secret, with the artist forgoing a lucrative job at Zynga to take this gig. "The pitch for an artist to work on Spy Party is actually pretty good," Hecker said "Think about it. There are very few games—if you're a character guy—where you can work on normal people. Not space marines and not orcs, right? People. Stylish people in normal clothes doing interesting, emotionally-intimate things like flirting with each other or having a drink and talking. Or looking at something. Where else are you going to work like that if you want to do characters? It's kind of the best character game out there in some sense, from a potential standpoint."
Hmm. Was Hecker wrong? I tried to think of games that had normal people doing fairly normal things. Grand Theft Auto? Sort of, but they usually go for big action moments and not much cocktail-sipping. The Sims? "The Sims has to be all games to all people about people which at the same time makes it no games about people," Hecker said, anticipating my counter-example. "It's got to be so generic," he added, saying that wasn't an insult. It needs to be generic to let players imbue personality into the characters.
The character drawings Hecker is now showing are Cimino's high-end renders. They will be simplified for the game, which is currently in a small beta of about 1700 gamers and which Hecker hopes to expand to more than 17,000 paying beta customers some time this September. (Sign up for the beta here. It costs $15 and, like Minecraft before it, grants players access to early versions of the game well before the finished one comes out.)
Spy Party will be done... someday. These characters will begin to be added to the beta some time next year, replacing the current prototype characters, whose names and likenesses will probably be retired. "I can't wait for the backlash, because, you know, it's the internet. There will be a backlash. They'll want the old art. Oh, come on people!"
What follows are more of Cimino's renders as well as one image of the game's current programmer art. Hecker describes the new style as "naturalistic and illustrative", drawing from such classic pre-photography illustrators as J.C. Leyendecker, Harry Beckhoff, Robert McGinnis and Herbert Paus.
The old art. Gah!
Finally, Hecker and Cimino at work in Oakland.

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In a cutting edge format - combining trivia challenges like those on "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" with the strategy played in the "World Series of Poker" -- contestants will once again find themselves in intense head-to-head matches, reacting quickly under pressure and outsmarting their opponents by using strategy and deception, as well as intellect and skill, in the race to win big money.
Contestants on "Duel" will be chosen for their confidence and charisma, a love of trivia and an obsession for competition. Like the previous incarnation of the show, when contestants wins a duel, they will pick their next opponent from three potential competitors, having only been given a limited amount of information about them -- the twist being that not all may be as it appears with these challengers.
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CPI of Edgewood gets Gulfstream contract
First flight of the Gulfstream G650 T2 on Feb. 25, 2010. Credit: Gulfstream handout
By Joseph Mallia July 6, 2011 11:58 AM
Edgewood-based aeronautics parts maker CPI Aerostructures Inc. has a new purchase order to supply wing components for the Gulfstream G650 aircraft.
CPI, a defense and commercial contractor, did not give a dollar value for the order from Spirit AeroSystems Inc., but said it was enough to bring its revenue to $54.7 million for the initial part of 2011, compared to $9.5 million for the same time period in 2010. Spirit is a contractor for Gulfstream, supplying the G650 wing.
The order, for leading-edge wing assemblies for the Gulfstream, gives CPI a production backlog through July 2012.
"As we continue to demonstrate our assembly capabilities to Spirit, we hope to be considered for additional opportunities for assemblies on this platform," CPI Aerostructures chief executive Edward J. Fred said Wednesday in a news release.
CPI Aerostructures supplies a range of parts to the U.S. Air Force and other military services, for the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye surveillance aircraft, MH-53 and CH-53 variant helicopters, the UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter, the S-92 helicopter, the MH-60S mine countermeasure helicopter, the Gulfstream G650, C-5A Galaxy cargo jet, the A-10 Thunderbolt attack jet, and the E-3 Sentry AWACS jet.
Photo: A Gulfstream G650 T2. (Feb. 25, 2010)
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