Looking for fruits, herbs, and vegetables that grow in shade? In this article, you'll find a detailed list of EDIBLE, shade-loving annual, biennial, and perennial plants, and the seasons in which they perform best.
If we could have a dollar for every time we've heard people say, "I don't have a garden because my yard doesn't get enough sun," we'd have $47 in the bank. With that $47, we could buy more than enough edible garden plants that grow in shade to keep our fridge and pantry well-stocked with produce.
If your yard gets part to full shade, then it is true that you can't grow some common fruits and veggies, such as large tomatoes and peppers. However, there are countless plants that are acclimated to thrive in full to part shade, and many of them are choice edibles.
What does full sun, part shade, and full shade mean?
These sunlight level distinctions are important to keep in mind when planning your garden. Putting a plant into more sun or less sun than it requires for optimal results will result in… suboptimal results or even dead plants.
It's important for you to pay attention to how the sunlight levels change in your garden from season to season. For instance, we have areas of our garden back near our forest line that are part – full shade in the summer when the leaves on the trees are out.
However, from mid-fall through early spring when the trees don't have leaves, those same areas are in full sun. During those months, we grow loads of winter annual veggies under low tunnels to protect them from the cold.
Young leafy greens in a spot that's full sun in the cold months and part-full shade in the warm months due to tree leaves blocking the sun.
Another interesting phenomenon to work with is "microclimates." Microclimates are specific spots where the growing conditions (sunlight, heat, water) are different than the overall growing conditions in your area.
It's also important to note that a part-shade spot in the summer might get as much solar exposure as a full sun winter spot. For instance, we've successfully grown cool-weather plants like turnips and beets under the shade of rows of summer corn despite the intense summer heat in our South Carolina climate.
The shade provided by the corn leaves kept the ground below much cooler, while the intense summer sun still provided enough light (even in shade) to allow the root crops to grow.
biennial = plants that take two years to complete their life cycle (usually growth during year 1, then flower/seed/death in year 2).
perennial = plants that lives for 2+ years.
Understanding a plant's life cycle is very important when determining its placement in your garden. For instance, we mentioned how we used our knowledge of microclimates to get good production out of ANNUAL plants like beets and turnips grown in the shade of corn during the summer months.
A beautiful and colorful assortment of flowers and vegetables that grow in shade.
This approach would likely not work well with PERENNIAL plants like a grape vine. If we put a grape vine in a spot that got full shade during the summer months, it might live for a while, but it wouldn't thrive or synthesize enough energy from the sun to produce grapes.
Below is a detailed list of fruits, herbs, and vegetables that grow in shade. We've grown the vast majority of the plants on this list (in part or full shade as noted), so we can attest to the fact that they don't just eek out an existence when grown in shade, they actually perform quite well.
Given the tens of thousands of species of edible plants that grow around the world, there are sure to be shade plants we've left off this list. If you see one we've missed, please let us know in the comments section and we'll add it to the list and give you credit!
Shade tolerance: Grows well as an understory tree in part shade, but will produce the most fruit with 6+ hours of sun.
Tastes like: American persimmons taste like sweet, delicious caramel candy AFTER they've been sweetened by frost/cold weather and turned mushy-soft. Otherwise the fruit can have a very unpleasant puckery effect in your mouth.
When to grow: Plant saplings in spring. On mature trees, fruit ripens and falls to the ground in fall.
Nope, not blackberries. These are black raspberries, which have a very unique flavor that isn't quite raspberry or blackberry. Black raspberries also grow in part shade.
Shade tolerance: We've grown black raspberries in full sun and part shade. Our full sun plants probably produce a bit more fruit, but not by much.
Tastes like: a cross between a red raspberry and a blackberry, but with unique notes – truly delicious!
When to grow: Grow from starts in spring. Second year canes produce fruit. New canes emerge in spring, and three year old canes die and should be removed. Canes get tall, topple over, and set new roots where they touch the ground, spreading rapidly.
Summer wouldn't be summer without blueberries. We grow multiple varieties. One of our faves is lemonade blueberries (the light-colored ones on top).
Shade tolerance: Some of the varieties of wild, native blueberries with small fruit that we forage only grow in part to full shade. Domesticated highbush and lowbush blueberry varieties will tolerate part shade, even if they don't produce as much fruit as plants grown in full sun.
When to grow: Put young plants in the ground in the spring or fall.
We're just on the outer range of being able to successfully grow currants and gooseberries since it's too hot where we live to grow them well. However, we've had moderate success growing currants and gooseberries in spots that get morning sun and shade from about noon on.
Tastes like: Currants and gooseberries taste different from one another, but offer tangy, sweet, delicious fruit.
A summer night's harvest of elderberries. Each elderberry plant produces a LOT of berries.
Read about how to grow elderberries, make elderflower cordial, or make elderberry syrup.
Shade tolerance: Tolerate part shade but don't produce as much fruit as elderberry plants grown in full-sun.
Tastes like: Elderberry flowers are a delicacy used as a flavoring in food and beverages. Raw elderberries don't taste very good – like bland blackberries. However, when cooked the flavor of ripe elderberries transforms into an AMAZING blueberry-blackberry-red wine flavor.
When to grow: Put elderberry starts in the ground in spring. Harvest flowers late spring and fruit in early-mid-summer. Elderberry plants grow vigorously from spring until dormancy at first freeze.
Ripe pawpaw fruit at Tyrant Farms.
Read how to grow pawpaws, process & eat pawpaws, or make pawpaw sorbet.
Shade tolerance: Pawpaws thrive as an understory tree for the first 3-5 years of their life. We have pawpaws growing in full shade that produce fruit, but their yields are lower than our full-sun pawpaw trees.
Tastes like: Pawpaw fruit are delicious, with the flavor of mango-banana custard.
When to grow: Plant pawpaw saplings in spring or fall. Flowers emerge in late winter-early spring, leaves slightly later; drop leaves in fall. Fruit harvested late-August – September.
Red raspberries and yellow raspberries with large blackberries. Pretty much any cane berry will grow in part shade.
Tastes like: Raspberry berries are tangy, sweet, and delicious. Raspberry leaves have a subtle berry-like flavor when made into tea as well.
When to grow: Grow from starts in spring. Second year canes produce fruit. New canes emerge in spring, and three year old canes die and should be removed. Plants also spread aggressively via underground runners.
Serviceberries are a delicious native fruit that taste like a cross between peaches and almonds, to which they're related. Serviceberries are another fruit you can grow in part shade.
Shade tolerance: Serviceberries grow well in part shade, but produces less fruit.
Tastes like: Serviceberries taste like a combination of peaches and almonds – their relatives.
When to grow: Transplant serviceberry saplings in spring after last frost. Pay attention to the varieties you get… We've grown serviceberries that reached 15′ tall and other dwarf varieties that only get to be about 3-4′ tall. Serviceberry fruit ripens in early summer around the same time as blueberries.
Tastes like: As its alternate name implies, schisandra berries offer hints of all five flavors: bitter, salty, sour, spicy, and sweet. Very unique.
When to grow: Put schisandra plants in the ground in the spring after last frost. Our schisandra plant is dormant throughout the cold months, and climbs vigorously up our north-facing back porch in the warm months.
"Wild" refers to smaller-fruited strawberry varieties, many of which have had minimal or no breeding work done to them.
Yellow wonder strawberries taste like tropical fruit punch and grow well in part shade.
Our favorites are yellow wonder strawberries (which taste like tropical fruit punch) and our native red Fragaria virginiana (which taste like domesticated strawberries whose flavor has been turned up x10).
Life cycle: Short-lived perennials, but most varieties produce runners that grow new plants.
Shade tolerance: Understory plants that grow very well in part shade, especially if they get morning sun and shade in late afternoon.
When to grow: Grow from starts or seeds, then transplant in early spring. Plants die down but keep some leaves throughout the winter in our climate zone (7b), then grow prolifically from spring through first freeze.
Tastes like: Chervil offers a delightfully complex herbal flavor – mild notes of licorice and parsley (we love it chopped into scrambled duck eggs!).
When to grow: Thrives in cool – mild weather and goes to bolt (produces flowers/seeds) as the weather warms.
A syrphid fly pollinating cilantro flowers at Tyrant Farms. Cilantro grows very well in part shade.
Tastes like: Cilantro is the pungent, funky, delicious flavoring often used in latino foods.
When to grow: Even though it's associated with summer foods, cilantro prefers cold-cool weather. In fact, it's exceptionally cold-hardy. We've had cilantro survive down into single digits uncovered.
Shade tolerance: Performs well in part shade, especially as weather warms (morning sun, afternoon shade are best).
Tastes like: It's hard to describe the unique taste of dill; forgive us for saying dill tastes like… dill.
When to grow: Thrives in mild temps of spring and late summer-fall (doesn't like too hot or too cold).
Shade tolerance: Can grow in part shade – full sun. Requires very wet, boggy soil or even shallow water to grow well.
Tastes like: Fish mint has a mild fish-like flavor and is used as an herb in lots of Asian dishes.
When to grow: Transplant in spring after last frost and harvest frequently once plants are established. Warning: can be invasive when provided with ideal conditions.
*French tarragon is a different plant than Russian tarragon (which isn't nearly as flavorful) or Mexican tarragon (which requires full sun).
Tastes like: French tarragon tastes similar to hyssop with a sweet, licorice-like flavor.
When to grow: Transplant new French tarragon seedlings (can't grow from seed) after last frost in spring.
Freshly harvested baby ginger at Tyrant Farms.
Read how to grow and use ginger.
Life cycle: Ginger can be grown as a perennial or annual depending on your climate zone. Pull rhizomes after the plants die back in the fall/winter and replant after last frost date to grow as perennials in cooler climates.
Shade tolerance: If grown in fertile moist (but not wet) soil, ginger roots thrive in full sun or part shade. In climates like Florida, ginger actually prefers some shade, especially in the afternoon. In cooler northern climates, ginger will produce larger rhizomes when provided full sun but will still produce smaller rhizomes in part shade.
Tastes like: Ginger tastes spicy, earthy, and delicious.
When to grow: From last frost through first frost. Start early indoors in cooler climates since plants need 9 months of growth to produce mature rhizomes; or grow tender "baby ginger" in as little as 4-6 months.
Edible parts: Ginseng roots highly valued and used medicinally, especially in Asian countries.
Tastes like: Ginseng is very bitter – it's used for medicinal purposes, not for culinary use.
When to grow: Harder to start from seed, ginseng is typically grown from transplanted first year roots, then harvested 3-5+ years later.
Spearmint, peppermint, "mountain mint," lemon balm, catnip, oregano, shisho, thyme, hyssop, and small-leafed basil varieties are all plants in the Lamiaceae family that we've successfully grown in part shade. Some are perennials and some are annuals. All provide amazing flavor and often have proven medicinal benefits.
Warning: Many of these plants — especially mint and oregano — will spread like wildfire in your garden. It may be best to plant them in containers unless you want a LOT of them. Others — notably lemon balm and shisho — will readily reseed. Using thick mulch layers and/or pulling young unwanted seedlings in the spring can help control their spread.
Shade tolerance: Lamiaceae plants easily tolerate part shade.
Tastes like: Lovage tastes like a more intense version of its close relatives, parsley and celery. Unlike parsley and celery, lovage can grow huge, up to 6′ tall.
When to grow: Start indoors 6-8 weeks before last frost and transplant out. Begin light harvesting after a few months; heavier harvests once plants mature.
Shade tolerance: We've had parsley thrive in spots that get as little as three hours of direct sunlight in the summer.
When to grow: Plant in spring and enjoy harvests well into the next year. Parsley is very cold-hardy. We've had it survive uncovered down into single digits.
Rosemary grows best in full sun, but it will also grow in part shade spots under certain conditions. Ideally, the spot is full sun in the winter, even if it's shaded in the summer.
For instance, we have a large rosemary plant that only gets about 4-5 hours of direct sun in the summer months due to shade from tree leaves. However, all winter long it soaks up lots of sunshine on its evergreen leaves when our deciduous trees are dormant.
There are many varieties of spicebush that grow natively throughout the world. The species that grows natively in our area (southeast US) is Lindera melissifolia, which is now endangered due to habitat destruction.
Tastes like: Spicebush tastes similar to allspice – with notes of cinnamon and cloves.
When to grow: Transplant saplings in spring after last frost. Berries ripen in late summer-fall.
Edible parts: Roots are the most prized part of the wasabi plant, but the leaves, stems and flowers are also edible.
Tastes like: Wasabi tastes similar to horseradish roots (most wasabi you've had with sushi was actually made from horseradish roots, not the wasabi plant).
Alliums are a huge and diverse genus that include garlic, onions, chives, ramps, and other beloved edibles. All alliums that we know of can can grow fairly well in part shade.
Keep in mind that alliums grown for their large bulbs (such as onions, garlic, and elephant garlic) won't form very large bulbs in shaded spots. However, they will still provide plenty of delicious allium greens.
Tender young "green garlic" (immature garlic). You can also just harvest the leaves and let the bulbs stay in the ground so the plants continue to grow and produce more garlic bulbs, eventually forming large colonies.
As an example, we have multiple garlic patches growing in part shade spots that we treat as perennials, even though garlic is typically grown as an annual. We harvest the garlic leaves (and sometimes the bulbs too on larger colonies) to use as "green garlic" during late winter and spring. Each year, the garlic colony's bulbs divide and produce more and more garlic greens.
Chives and bunching onions can be grown similarly in part shade spots, forming dense patches.
Artichokes and cardoons are closely related plants that are essentially giant thistles.
Artichoke seedlings ready to be transplanted in the ground.
Artichokes are bred for their huge edible flower heads (which are picked young before seed formation), whereas cardoons are bred for their edible stems (which taste exactly like artichokes).
Shade tolerance: Both plants will grow well in part shade.
Tastes like: Artichokes and cardoons are two of the best tasting veggies out there, in our opinion. Sweet, earthy, creamy, umami.
When to grow: Transplant seedlings after last frost. Some artichoke varieties produce flower heads during their first growing season, others take 1 year. Same with cardoons.
Shade tolerance: Does well in part shade, especially in the warm months (this is another plant that we grow underneath tall annual plants in the summer (corn, tomatoes, etc).
Tastes like: Bucks horn plantain leaves have a strong, leafy green flavor (like spinach x10); the seed heads have a mushroom-like flavor.
When to grow: Start from seed in late winter and transplant outdoors after last frost. Our bucks horn compacts down but stays green throughout winter, then puts on lots of growth throughout the warm months before seeding in summer.
A lush patch of chickweed growing at Tyrant Farms.
Read about how to grow and use chickweed.
Tastes like: Chickweed leaves taste like corn silk (sweet and earthy).
When to grow: Chances are, you're already unintentionally growing chickweed as a "weed" in your yard. It thrives in cool weather, growing in our area from fall until the weather warms up in spring. By mid-late April, each chickweed plant has produced thousands of seeds and died, but not before we've eaten piles of it and fed giant amounts of it to our ducks as well.
Daylilies are another common garden plant that's edible and also tolerates part shade very well. There are so many modern hybrids that it's impossible to say with 100% certainty that EVERY daylily variety is edible, but all the older varieties are.
What looks like a fingerling potato, tastes like a fingerling potato, but isn't a fingerling potato? Daylily tubers, which can be grown in part shade.
Wild orange-flowering daylilies grow abundantly in our area in the spring along roadsides and old homesteads. That was the variety originally brought over by European immigrants as a food crop.
Tastes like: Daylily tubers look and taste surprisingly like fingerling potatoes. The young leaves/shoots taste like a cross between sweet lettuce with subtle hints of onion. The flower buds and flowers are delicious – sweet and nectary with a soft velvety texture.
When to grow: Plant tubers in the spring and allow to mature for one year before harvesting parts of the plant. Tubers are best after the plant goes dormant in the fall or before the plant breaks dormancy in the spring. New leaves/shoots are harvested in late winter-early spring; flowers in the late spring-summer.
Tastes like: False Solomon's seal shoots taste similar to asparagus, its relative.
When to grow: Plant roots in spring, harvest shoots once plants are established after 2 years.
Warning: There are multiple edible varieties of ferns, and there are multiple inedible/poisonous varieties. The variety that we grow is Ostrich fern (Matteuccia struthiopteris).
Ostrich fern fiddleheads ready for harvest. These plants can grow in full shade.
Don't ever eat a fiddlehead from a fern unless you're 100% certain you've correctly ID'd the species.
Tastes like: Fiddleheads taste like a cross between asparagus and spinach.
When to grow: Transplant young plants in the spring after last frost. Leave the plants to mature for 3 years before you begin to harvest its fiddles, which emerge in spring. Never harvest more than 50% of the fiddleheads from a fern crown in any given year in order to ensure that the ferns stays vigorous for years to come.
There are LOTS of edible flowers that grow in part or even full shade. Some are listed separately in this article.
Left to right: calendula, nasturtium, and dianthus flowers, all of which are edible and can grow in part shade.
For the sake of brevity, we're lumping a few others together. If you want a far more thorough list of edible flowers, check out Thompson & Morgan's edible flower list.
Yes, this common yet beautiful garden plant is edible! In fact, hostas are a common veggie in many Asian countries.
Hosta shoots – these are actually a little older than you want to pick them. At this stage, they're starting to get a little bitter.
There are dozens of hosta cultivars, and all are edible. Some may taste better than others, since many modern cultivars are bred purely for looks, not flavor.
Tastes like: Young hosta shoots taste similar to asparagus (it's an Asparagaceae, the same plant family as asparagus); older shoots taste more bitter as leaves develop.
When to grow: Plant hosta crowns in early spring. They'll live for many years and grow vigorously from spring through first frost.
Arugula, bok choy, chard, chicory, cress, fenugreek, kale, lettuce, mâche, mustard, spinach, sorrel… nearly every leafy green you can think of will grow well in part shade – especially as the weather warms up.
Red lettuce, kale, chicory, spinach, and more growing in a shady garden bed at Tyrant Farms. Most any leafy green veggie you can think of will tolerate part shade.
Leafy greens also grow better in morning sun and afternoon shade, rather than the other way around.
Peas grow perfectly well in part shade, especially as the weather warms.
Shade tolerance: Peas thrive in cool weather (40s-upper 60s) and quickly die out once temps start to rise into the 80s. We plant peas in various spots around our garden, from full sun – part shade. The plants that receive more shade last longer in warm weather, even if they don't set quite as many pods.
Tastes like: Everyone knows what pea pods taste like, but other parts of the plant are equally delicious. The growth tips/leaves of pea plants taste very similar to sugar snap peas (a particularly cold-hardy variety that we love for greens is Austrian winter peas). Pea flowers are also sweet with the texture of velvety lettuce.
Shade tolerance: Tolerates part shade in the north. In warmer areas like where we live, the only way to grow rhubarb is by putting it in spots where it gets shade throughout the hot parts of the day.
Tastes like: Tangy, sweet-sour. Strawberry-rhubarb pie is one of the best discoveries in human history.
When to grow: Transplant young rhubarb plants in spring after last frost. Harvest stems sparingly from younger plants in the spring – summer and more aggressively from 4+ year old plants.
Solomon's seal shoots – a little past ideal harvesting stage but still good. This unique vegetable can grow in part shade to full shade.
Shade tolerance: part shade – full shade; ours grows in a forest area underneath a fully-shaded tree canopy.
Tastes like: Solomon's seal's young shoots taste like asparagus, its close relative.
When to grow: grow from starts in the spring; plants break dormancy as soon as ground thaws and die back at first freeze.
A basket of stinging nettle at Tyrant Farms.
Read how and why to grow stinging nettle.
Shade tolerance: we have patches of stinging nettle growing in full sun, part shade, and full shade; all are thriving.
Tastes like: Stinging nettle offers a pleasant, mild cucumber and earthy umami flavor.
When to grow: Grow stinging nettle from seeds or starts in spring; plants break dormancy as soon as ground thaws and die back at first freeze.
You can grow tomatoes outside of full sun spots? Yes, we've grown tomatoes in surprisingly shady spots in our garden. The key is to select small-fruited varieties that don't require nearly as much photosynthesis to mature.
We get piles of yellow currant and Matt's Wild Cherry tomatoes from our part shade-grown plants.
Our favorite type of tomatoes to grow in part shade are yellow currant varieties, although small red tomatoes like Matt's Wild Cherry tomatoes will also perform well in part shade.
Tastes like: We shouldn't have to tell you what a tomato tastes like!
Tastes like: Trandescantia stems taste like a cross between asparagus and lettuce. They get tougher, more fibrous, and more mucilaginous with age, so eat them when younger. Tender young leaves offer a similar flavor and are good in mixed green salad. Gorgeous blue flowers are swarmed on by bees, but make a nice colorful addition to salads or good as a garnish. Seeds are slightly bitter and were used medicinally by Native Americans.
When to grow: Recommend growing from starts transplanted outdoors in spring. Harvest stems and leaves in spring as the plant is breaking dormancy. Flowers in late spring-early summer.
Closely related purple pansies and violas. Both plants produce edible flowers and leaves, and both can grow in part to full shade, although they also do well in full sun during the winter.
Yes, these beautiful cold weather flowering plants are edible too. Pansies are simply larger, bred varieties of violas.
Tastes like: Viola and pansy flowers offer a sweet, sublimely subtle wintergreen/mint flavor. The leaves taste like lettuce.
As you now know, having a shaded yard or garden bed doesn't mean you can't grow edible plants there. There is a huge variety of delicious fruit, herbs, and vegetables that grow in shade, so plan to start your shade garden today.
The hardest part is narrowing down the choices of shade-loving edible plants to what you can conceivably stuff into your garden!
Oh, one last thing: if you have a full shade garden, that's ideal for growing gourmet, medicinal mushrooms! Here's how to start your own mushroom garden.
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Organic gardener, plant geek, and heritage breed duck mom. Susan earned a B.A. in Biology from College of Charleston, worked as an ACSM certified personal trainer, and as a research assistant in addiction psychiatry at Medical University of South Carolina (MUSC). She puts her strong technical research background to work for Tyrant Farms (on the blog and in the gardens). Foraging, cooking, fermentation, and mixology round out her other interests. In addition to their collaboration on Tyrant Farms, Susan and her husband Aaron are cofounders of GrowJourney.com, a USDA certified organic seed & gardening education company.


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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Arctic Flights
Interesting sub-thread Swanlinnet; don't know if the mods will be happy with it here, but, hey-ho.
As a "person who used to be a pilot", you will know that the FAA, CAA and other National Aviation Authorities (under the auspices of the ICAO and Chicago Convention) don't actually teach anyone to fly, although they do regulate such activities. Its difficult to address your submission about the relevance of the Earth's roundness without knowing more about your knowledge base. Yes, the training is broad and intense but, if I remember correctly (1970's for goodness sake!), its not something I remember being taught, or needing, when studying for a PPL, but I think it would certainly have been important if I was to consider long-range navigation, or a commercial licence.
What category of licence did you hold, commercial or private, local or long-haul? Have you ever flown a sector more than a couple of hundred miles? I'd be surprised if you had not learnt, for instance, the need for Great Circle navigation over long distances.
Science & Alternative Science / Re: Who makes these images?
My first comment, Pete, but I've been following with mild interest since the start. I gotta say SA10's original question has merit but, from a FE perspective, I don't think it needs much answering; obviously the billions going into NASA, AI, CGI, blah, blah, and its not much of a leap to write it down to "the conspiracy".
My interest was piqued further by the light-saber sub-thread, and your apparent dismissal of the explanations as a too-convenient retcon. Well excuse me, but of course its convenient; its true. I remembered reading about the pre-positioning of the sample tubes before Christmas, but it took me till last night for me to be bothered to track down the BBC's report.
So, whad'ya think? Pre-emptive press-release from NASA in case anyone accidentally leaves any light-sabers around the film set?
Quote from: Pete Svarrior on December 31, 2022, 11:36:10 PM
And, as typical of FE'ers, that explanation (no matter how reasonable) must be hand waved away.
Hand-waved? Not at all. It's just strange that a magical lightsaber showed up in these very legitimate photos, and its existence was only retconned in after people pointed out that it looked strange.
Handwaved, retconned, ad-hoc explanation on the BBC, 8 days prior to the social media post:
Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do FE meteors work
Quote from: JPJ on January 14, 2023, 05:09:25 AM
If I may, here's 2 supplementary questions for JPJ. I'm not a rocket scientist, but I am an aircraft engineer. Aircraft actually do have a spirit level in the cockpit; its part of an instrument called the Turn and Slip Indicator. It doesn't have any electronics, its just a plain and simple spirit level, and the pilot checks it to ensure that the aircraft is balanced about its longitudinal axis.
1. Where do you think the bubble will be if the aircraft is banked 60 deg left in a level balanced turn?
2. Where do you think the bubble will be if the aircraft is perfectly level in flight with the rudder hard over to the left?
(Hint; if you have access to any kind of computer flight sim you can try this yourself).
I don't know enough about aerodynamics to answer exactly, but in an uncoordinated turn, the bubble wouldn't be in the center. In a coordinated turn, where all the forces are balanced, it would. Because...all gravitational and inertial forces are balanced. There is no lateral acceleration relative to the planes center of gravity' like you would feel in a car making a tight curve.
Relative to the plane, the indicator is stationary, so it responds to the same forces the plane, the pilot and passengers experience. Drinks and peanuts don't go flying off tray tables and people don't fall sideways out of their seats because within it's own frame of reference, the plane is level.
A spirit level aligns itself to an equipotential surface. Maybe the "spirit" means magic and the bubble and fluid just magically change positions. It doesn't really matter, because how it aligns isn't the problem for FET. Its the fact that a spirit level demonstrates differences in gravitational potential that according to FET shouldn't exist.
Thanks. So you accept that gravity is just one of the acceleration forces that act on an aircraft, and on a spirit level?
(and the "spirit" thing doesn't mean magic; it just means a non-freezing medium, like in "wines, ales and alcoholic spirits".
Quote from: Pete Svarrior on January 11, 2023, 09:35:45 PM
Here's a fun challenge for you: contact your favourite spirit level manufacturer or award-winning physicist and ask the following question: would a spirit level work in a rocket accelerating through space, in a zero-gravity environment?
If UA effects the meteor, their relative acceleration would be zero and they would never meet.
In no way am I advocating FE, but that premise seems incorrect.
In the RE case, everything on Earth is affected by the same gravitational acceleration, but things still meet; bats meet balls, cars meet pedestrians, and bullets meet victims.
You are presuming;
1. No other forces are involved.
2. Initial velocities are identical.
With the greatest respect for Pete and JPJ's Relative-arguments, aren't we just accelerating down a mathematical rabbit-hole here?
OK, the velocity of a meteorite is going to be somewhere between 0 and C. So where do they come from, and what makes them collide with Earth (or vice versa).
Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why are all FE models discs?
Chains, of course are flexible, so why not measure distance using steel bars of known length?
Between 1888 and 1937, several companies, using different gauges, laid a rail track from Sydney to Perth; traversing Australia from East to West coast. In the 1970s the unified Australian Rail Track Corporation converted the entire length to Standard Gauge.
They seem to think they laid 4352 kilometres of track. I'm pretty sure that trains also have speedometers and clocks so, well, you know .....
Flat Earth Projects / Re: The Atlantic Split
Before anyone beats me to it, can I be the first on this thread to bring up the Meteorological-Phenomenon-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named; the southern hemisphere Anomalous Winds. There don't appear to be any, with regard to this boat race.
The current race leader, Simon Curwen, has an average race speed so far (recorded at 16.00 UTC 19 Dec 2022) of 4.9 Kts, with his rivals showing a decimal digit-or-2 in his wake. Current speeds of of him and his closest (geographical) competitors appears to be in the range of 5 to 7 kts; hardly extraordinary. I am not a sailor, but would have imagined that extraordinary winds would be driving sail-boats at extraordinary speeds.
Two questions for resident yacht-club-guy Goldie (or any subject-matter expert);
1. Any thoughts on the apparent speeds, and how the skippers are determining their actual position, speed and heading? (ie GPS, astronomical sightings, LORAN).
2. There are 2 large, rectangular (on Mercator) brown zones in the southern oceans which the boats are avoiding; out of bounds for the race?
Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding
Quote from: SimonC on December 13, 2022, 09:20:25 PM
Everest is 8848 metres above sea level. It doesnt matter how high it is relative to the ground it rises from.
Of course it matters. It only stands out in human consciousness because it is an absolute; humans are obsessed with "highest", "fastest", "biggest", and we use sea level as a universal datum. Its only "the highest mountain in the world" because it sticks out a tiny bit more from a range of generally high terrain. Its only 200 metres taller than its best mate, K2. I live at sea level and I can see a 900 metre mountain (Skiddaw) from my living room window, 30 km away, and its really not that impressive (though pretty to look at).
Everest is 8 km high and 700 km from the sea. Why would you notice it from space? Your seeming obsession with something that small demonstrates that human brains simply can't relate these tiny dimension to the sheer awesomeness of the size of Earth.
And can I comment on the "map of Africa" thing? Yes, one is a direct dopy of the other; the map is directly copied from the actual shape of Africa. People have been sailing around it for millennia, trekking across it for centuries, and flying over it for decades, so I think we had a pretty good idea what shape it was before we ever saw it from space. And most of the correspondents on this site don't just base their idea of the shape of Earth on "rectangular drawings on school room walls"; we've travelled enough to see them in reality and found that, yes, this map works.
And Simon, you understand that although Sagarmatha (Everest) is the highest mountain, it doesn't just rise up to 8848 metres directly from sea level, like the Eiffel Tower. Its in a mountain range, its surrounded by other mountains; its like the tallest man standing in a crowd of very tall men.
Also, its not symmetrical. When you find such a photo how will you define whether it is perpendicular to the horizon?
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Parental Licensing and Why We Need It
Quote from: crutonius on December 11, 2022, 06:05:12 AM
But what if you end up preventing the birth of the man who killed Hitler!
Nice paradox; Hitler killed Hitler.
Quote from: SimonC on December 10, 2022, 09:36:33 AM
If the earth is a globe then any image of a ship beyond the horizon would not be sitting at right angles to the horizon. It would be at right angles to the relevant curvature. The ships in the image are both upright which clearly shows the pic is a fake.
If an infinite number of ships on the sea beyond the horizon (one after the other) could be viewed to an infinite distance they would not be sitting like little ducks in a row.
As Tumeni said (while I was writing); Correct. If the ship were 60 nautical miles from the observer it would appear to be tilting away by 1 degree. As the ship appears to be less than 60 nautical miles, the angle of tilt will be less that 1 degree. Please demonstrate that the ship shown is not leaning away by less that 1 degree.
Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?
Quote from: Tron on December 08, 2022, 06:56:02 PM
And for your second question, not many people have been to the north pole. I'm aware of a few skiers, a motorcyclist, a cruise ship, and some science expedition's who have been there... And that's not even the edge of the world in my opinion. And even if a person descided to travel farther and farther in a particular direction which is near the edge of the world, I'm told the air is so thin that planes can't get there and probably any other machine or human that I know of.
So, if only one person had been to the North Pole, then someone's been there. But of course, hundreds of people have been there. Motorcyclists? Probably, they are a hardy and impetuous bunch. Cruise ship? Don't think so, due to the permanent presence of pack ice. Skiers and scientists? Definitely. You forgot to mention Sir Michael Palin; author, traveller and parrot-sketch participant (check out his book and TV series "Pole to Pole". And what about the daily overflights by international airlines? For instance, look at Finnair A.350 OH-LWO; left Seoul at 23.24 tonight, flew northeast across the Bering Sea around Russia then almost due north heading across the pole to Helsinki. Check it out on FR24.
(edit) And, yes, the thin air thing. By whom?
Science & Alternative Science / Re: Apollo 17
I was privileged to be born in the 1950s. I still remember my mum listening to the radio and telling me that there was a man in space (Yuri Gagarin), and I was old enough in the later 60s to witness, and understand the significance of, the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs culminating in the Lunar landings.
In Earth orbit we have had Skylab, Mir, Shuttle, ISS, constellations of communications-, broadcasting- and navigational-satellites. Beyond Earth's immediate locale, we have landed or flown-by all the major planets, some asteroids, and a comet. Robotic probes are excavating material from some bodies for future return to Earth. Half a dozen countries, of all political shadings, have soft-landed vehicles on alien bodies, and some of them are still driving around. We've sent probes beyond the boundaries of the Solar system, and spaceborne telescopes are probing the furthest reaches of the universe.
The prototype of a manned lunar probe is currently orbiting the moon; the first person-capable vehicle to do so in 50 years, and we stand on the threshold of permanent lunar settlements, and a manned probe to Mars. Possibly, inshallah, in my lifetime.
Against this backdrop, someone on another thread (who's name I can't even be arsed to look up again) is suggesting that space is boring. Unbelievable. Makes you wonder where we will be in another 50 years.
Flat Earth Theory / Re: What do you think about this map?
Looks like yesterday's Qantas QF1336 was a chartered sightseeing flight to Antarctica (Google it).
Obviously Qantas aren't aware of the Forbidden Zone thingy, and the Global Space Force F-16s failed to shoot it down.
Quote from: simplethingsinlife on November 26, 2022, 05:08:41 PM
You are not allowed to sail or go past past the 60th parallel south. I believe it is to prevent us from getting too close to the firmament and discovering the true nature of the plane we live on.
Antarctica, interestingly enough, is the only 'continent' that has it's shape on the flag. It's almost like they want you to 'know' the shape of it - thereby further fooling us and hiding the truth.
What flag?
And what's with the "go past the 60th parallel south" thing. What law is that? What is the jurisdiction? Who enforces it? As I write this, Qantas Boeing 787 Dreamliner Registration VH-ZNB, operating as flight number QF1336, is on FR24 out of Melbourne and at 67deg South 165deg East. Should we be telling the World Police?
The map is pure fantasy. It doesn't even show Essos, Westeros or Narnia.
Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Does the Sun appear larger in the morning?
Item 1: Before we go any further; for Christ's sake be careful with your eyesight; you won't get a second chance. Research how to safely look at the sun.
Now lets critique your science. "3/8 inch", "between 1/8 and 1/4 inch". What? I thought even FE took it to be several miles across. I assume you are measuring the apparent diameter at some distance from your eyes. What distance? How have you measured the range of your compass points from your eye? Are you using the same distance for every observation?
Sunglasses are totally inadequate for this task (see Item 1). If you are looking through trees you are partially obscuring the thing you are attempting to measure. Unless you are looking through something like welder's goggles you are only measuring the glare, not the sun.
Finally, read Item 1 again.
Flat Earth Theory / Re: Rockets work in a vacuum
Quote from: Tron on November 20, 2022, 04:27:08 PM
Questions like.. if exhaust fumes do nothing compared to the internal action/reaction principle, then what happens if we move the exhaust of a jet in different directions? Nothing really? What if we turned the exhaust of a rocket 180 degrees... Would the rocket still move forward? I'm compelled to give credit to the enormous wind power generated by these machines.
Harrier; it can deflect its exhaust nozzle downwards; plane goes up.
Airliners; ducts and vanes deflect the exhaust gas forwards; plane slows down.

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A Sunday Social is coming to this historic Stockport mill with street food and live music
This weekend, a special Sunday Social event with street food and live music is offering locals a chance to see Stockport's historic Weir Mill up close ahead of its planned £60m restoration.
There'll be Foodie Friday street food regulars including I Knead Pizza, ArtiSam and Somtam Street alongside live music from Stockport's Fuzzy Sun, as well as DJ sets – including from Clint Boon.
The boutique street food and music event, held underneath the arches of Stockport Viaduct, will raise money for the Greater Manchester Mayor's homelessness charity.
Stockport's Fuzzy Sun will be performing acoustic sets from their new album, while Inspiral Carpet and XS Manchester DJ Clint Boon will be playing his favourite Boon Army tunes alongside Duncan Wallis from Dutch Uncles, Neil Summers from Manchester's Proper Magazine, who will be dropping some Balearic pop beats, and The Vinyl Frontier, who'll be going through the decades with some classic tracks.
Clint Boon
Social impact developer Capital & Centric is teaming up with Stockport's Foodie Friday to host the event, ahead of the redevelopment of Weir Mill.
Organisers say the event will be the perfect place for families and friends to meet and enjoy some socially distanced feel good vibes. Under new local lockdown rules, people can meet in groups of up to six from multiple households providing they are outside.
Visitors will be provided with table service for the licensed bar and will have the option to order food directly from the Dines app.
"As many people will be aware, we can't currently run Foodie Friday at Stockport Market due to the restrictions in place as a result of the coronavirus crisis, so we're delighted that we're able to partner with Capital & Centric on the delivery of a smaller, more controlled street food event at Weir Mill," said Joe Barratt, Foodie Friday founder and organiser.
"We hope this will provide the people of Stockport with a taste of the much-missed Foodie Friday experience and give people an opportunity to see how the area around Weir Mill could be creatively animated with street food and live music in the future."
There are plans to create 250 new homes as part of the planned £60m restoration, with a new frontage onto the river, spaces for café-bars, delis or independent shops, surrounding courtyards and green spaces – all open to the public.
"The site's been neglected for years but we're bringing it back to life," said Tim Heatley, co-founder of Capital & Centric.
"This is a great chance to get people down to Weir Mill so they can get a feel for the community we're looking to create.
"With the viaduct in the background and sat alongside the River Mersey, it really is an incredible location. We want this to be the first of many events we host as we transform the site into a thriving new neighbourhood with homes, bars and restaurants.
"The Sunday Social is exactly the sort of vibe we're going to be creating at Weir Mill with independent food and drink and a chilled place for families and friends to hang out. So come down and check it out!"
The Sunday Social will be held on Sunday 13th September, 12pm-6pm in the courtyard at Weir Mill. There will be two sessions: 12pm-3pm and 3pm-6pm and tables must be booked in advance. Tickets are £5 each, which includes a free arrival drink, with all ticket revenue being donated to the Greater Manchester Mayor's homelessness charity.
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The God Of Liberalism And Ben Carson's Unpardonable Sin In His Response, 'I Would Not Just Stand There And Let Him Shoot Me.'
The most hateful words ever uttered, based on the mainstream media's outright hate poured over Dr. Ben Carson when he said the following in answer to a question:
Question from reporter: "But Dr. Carson, if a gunman walks up and puts a gun at you and says, 'What religion are you?' That is the ultimate test of your faith."
Dr. Cason: "I'm glad you asked that question, because, not only would I probably not cooperate with him, I would not just stand there and let him shoot me. I would say, 'Hey, guys, everybody attack him. He may shoot me, but he can't get us all.'"
I want you to notice that I took these words from the video in which Huffington Post says in bold typeface, "Skip to 0:25 in the video above to hear Carson describe what he would have done if he'd been present at the shooting." In other words, skip PAST the part where the reporter asks, "What would you do?" And Dr. Carson responds with what he would do.
It's frankly amazing on one level. I mean, what in the hell is controversial about that? The argument to this side is literally, I WILL stand there and let him shoot me." And of course, "I will stand there and let him shoot me until my Savior and Lord, the State, kicks down every single door in America and goes over every square inch of land with metal detectors and confiscates until it can account for every single one of the more than 300 million guns in this country. And PISS on the Constitution in the process.
Remember those three American heroes who were so honored in France for saving that trainload of passive French people from that terrorist? WHAT BEN CARSON SAID HE ASPIRED TO DO WAS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.
Let me tell you why what Ben Carson said is such a horrifying sin in the religion of liberalism: because liberalism is a religion of radical submission and radical helplessness. You are to be helpless and submissive in your role as a member of "the State." And liberalism is a MISSIONARY religion in that every liberal must force the rest of us to be as helpless and as submissive in the face of "the State" as they seek to be.
If you so much as BELIEVE or FEEL that you ought to have a right to protect or defend yourself, you are a blasphemer and a heretic.
I guess that's quite possibly why Spencer Stone – one of those heroes on that train in France who did not "cooperate" with the terrorist because they ddn't want to "just stand there and let him shoot" them, was stabled – and fittingly stabled in the back by some coward – in the liberal bastion of Sacramento, California.
Somebody got this point in their title parodying the leftist piece of truly lousy toilet paper known as GQ: "F*CK Ben Carson For Preaching Self-Defense." Because we're getting to the very core essence of what truly separates a liberal from a conservative.
The Bible frequently uses the metaphor of "sheep" to describe believers before their God. And yes, apart from the wisdom of God, which we should therefore seek, humans are described as helpless and stupid, like sheep.
If you are a liberal, don't sneeringly tell me you don't have a religious faith. Because YES YOU DO. Liberalism is a religion following secular humanism that replaces "God" with "Government," with human government. And the priests of this religion are bureaucrats, and to them the words of Isaiah 53 – "all we like sheep have gone astray" – ring like music. We are poor, stupid, helpless sheep under liberalism. And Government is our God, our Savior, to whom we ought to helplessly submit.
And when it comes to weapons, the biblical metaphor couldn't be more apt in describing what liberals' want: the SHEEP don't get to carry weapons. They are far too stupid and they would clearly only hurt themselves or one another. No, only the shepherd, only the bureaucrat's designated force-bearer, can carry weapons.
Probably the most famous passage in the Bible, Psalm 23, the Shepherd's Psalm, sums it up: "Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me." God is the One who carries the rod and the staff, not the sheep. And liberalism is a rabid religion that keeps shrieking, "There is no God but Government, and Obama is His Prophet!"
AND THEY MUST STRIP YOU OF YOUR GUNS AND LEAVE YOU UTTERLY HELPLESS, BECAUSE YOU ARE A SHEEP AND IT IS BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE ONE TRUE GOD THE STATE TO THINK ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT YOURSELF.
You have the right to religious freedom if and ONLY If you are a liberal. But every other religion is blasphemy before liberalism and its One True God, the human State. And every other religion must ultimately be forced to SUBMIT and be HELPLESS. Like a good sheep.
This doesn't just apply to guns; it is all encompassing. Allow me to give you another example of God vs. Government and the side liberalism takes:
The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD Almighty. — Haggai 2:8
WHO does all the wealth belong to? Well, I think we all understand those words very easily: the LORD Almighty. GOVERNMENT. OBAMA.
Liberals are the faithful demanding that all wealth go to the One True God, the State. It's not that liberals disagree with the Bible as much as they disagree on who "God" is.
I've written about this stuff before, of course. I wrote about 1 Samuel 8:10-22 and how a wicked people refused God as their king and wanted giant, powerful human government instead. I wrote about Daniel 2:31-35 and how Democrats have picked the absolutely WRONG side of history to be on as they side with the human government that will utterly perish before the coming Christ who as the Rock will destroy it.
These people worship human Government in place of God, and human government will ultimately burn in hell right along with them.
Sheep are helpless. Just as liberals want those whom they dole out welfare to for literally generation after generation after generation to be helpless sheep who cannot take care of themselves. And all you have to do to guarantee that you will be poor for life, that your children will be poor for all of their lives, that their children will be trapped in poverty all of their lives, and so on, ad nauseam, is to vote Democrat. Because they seek to trap you in a vicious cycle that you will never get out of and you will therefore always need to keep voting for them to keep you in.
Liberals take money from one group and dole it out to keep another group dependent and helpless. Like sheep.
Liberalism is the confiscation of wealth and the offering of that wealth to the One True God, the State. And the priests of this religion, the bureaucrats, distribute it according to their theology.
There's more, of course: who says what life is and who gets to live? God, of course, and ONLY God:
13You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body
and knit me together in my mother's womb.
14 Thank you for making me so wonderfully complex!
Your workmanship is marvelous—how well I know it.
15 You watched me as I was being formed in utter seclusion,
as I was woven together in the dark of the womb.
16 You saw me before I was born.
Every day of my life was recorded in your book.
Every moment was laid out
before a single day had passed. — Psalm 139:13-16
And who gets to decide these weighty questions of what is life, what is sacred, who gets to live and who should die? God, of course. The State. The Black-Robed High Priests of Liberalism.
Which is why the doctrine of abortion and the support for that doctrine is tantamount to an act of religious devotion. It is an act of religious faith, for I the LORD your God gave you Roe v. Wade. And let all other gods be forced to bow down before Me, and let all who oppose my rule be torn limb-from-limb or burned with acid in the very womb in which I, Obama, formed him.
What is marriage? Who decides? Only God, of course. That's obvious. We all agree with that. Jesus, the divine Messiah of the God of the Bible, summed up God's way according to Genesis 2:22-24 when He described biblical marriage:
"Haven't you read," [Jesus] replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate." — Matthew 19:4-6
Well, liberals rabidly and utterly reject that God. They have their own God, the State. And so we now have Obama, the divine Messiah of the God of the State, providing a radically different view of "marriage."
Atheism is a religion. It has been ruled so by the same Supreme Court that gave us Roe v. Wade and gay marriage. Just as secular humanism has been defined as a religion. It is now an amply documented scientific FACT that the human brain is hard-WIRED for religion and religious experience. It is literally now ANTI-SCIENCE to claim that humans aren't intrinsically religious beings. You can put it in the most atheistic, physicalist, materialistic terms you want: but the human brain is hard-wired for religious experience and it's only a question of what you worship, not whether you worship. Let me take a moment to deal with this part about our religious instincts being genetically or evolutionarily "hard-wired" into our brains: atheists have kind of GOT to say something like that to explain the fact that atheists are an incredibly tiny minority of the world's population; "Adherents.com, estimates that the proportion of the world's people who are "secular, non-religious, agnostics and atheists" at about 14%." With about one-fifth of that 14% – or 2.8% – categorically stating themselves as "atheist" rather than some form of agnostic or secular. 2.8% of the world's population is atheist. So here's the question: since religion is hard-wired into our brains, who the hell do these people think they are telling us that we don't need something that their very own precious evolution very clearly put in us because we need it? Their claim is tantamount to saying, "I evolved to no longer need evolution." There's an awful lot of problems with consistent atheism, but this is one of those contradictions that needs to be exposed.
Atheists can play their rhetorical word games and say, "If atheism is a religion, then off is a TV channel." Here's the problem with it: the very word "atheism" means, "no god." Let's acknowledge and then move beyond the problem with atheism as expressed by G.K. Chesterton: "When a man stops believing in God he doesn't then believe in nothing, he believes anything." Which corresponds with the admonition in Colossians 2:8 which says, "Don't let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ." I am making a different point here that strictly relates to the TV channel analogy; namely that atheism is espoused as a belief in the denial of something, but the very thing they are denying is such a quintessential part of who they are that the very word "theist" is the most prominent part of their own self-description. To wit: in the analogy that the atheist provides, "GOD is the TV. Religions are the channels. If it is off, maybe he's dead or disengaged, but at least you admit there's a TV." . Just for the record, I can cite you MILLION of Christians who can easily use the same "logic" to rationalize that Christianity is NOT a religion. I googled the phrase, Christianity is not a religion, and got 86,000,000 hits. Their point is that "Religion is man's way to reach God. Christianity is God's way to reach man." That many atheists don't consider themselves "religious" is no more an accurate part of their perspective than that many Christians don't consider themselves "religious." The simple fact boils down to this: whether you are talking about atheism not being a religion, or Christianity not being a religion, the only way the proponents of either view are correct is if their belief (i.e., atheism or Christianity) is correct. If there is in fact a God, atheism is merely one of many false religious systems. And belief in God is NOT an essential part of a religious system, for the record, given that many Buddhists are actually atheists. Finally, the author of this actually quite-good article I cite above points out that the rabidness of the atheist and the tendency of the atheist to hate theists is every bit as fervent as it is the other way around. She points out, "Let me tell you: The angriest ones can be as malicious as a coven of Westboro Baptists at a veteran's funeral." In case anybody actually has the foolishness to doubt that, let me just point out that the very shooting that Ben Carson is the target of so much hate for describing how he would react was an ATHEIST who TARGETED CHRISTIANS.
I say this because of the incredibly dishonest, deceitful, disingenuous way that liberals and their counterparts who dominate the mainstream media constantly frame any and basically all religious debate in America. Religious people are constantly told that we have no right to impose our religion on others. From the very same people who even as they are saying that are exploiting it as an incredibly cynical device to impose their damn religion on me. As an example, an atheist decided to get offended over students being allowed to pray and rabidly determined to impose HIS religion of refusing to pray on every student whose religion encouraged them to pray. Every single court or every single bureaucracy that seeks to remove prayer from school is NOT removing religion; they are DICTATING which religion that students will be forced to practice, namely the religion of atheism/secular humanism.
My point is that liberals ARE worshipers. They are RABID worshipers. They merely choose to worship a very different God from the God of Christianity. And to the extent that they don't worship the State, they worship themselves and their religion is about selfishly and self-centeredly obtaining their lusts and their desires through the power of the State and forcing others to provide these things for them.
I am beyond sick of liberals imposing their religion on me while they smarmily tell me that I don't have a right to impose my religion on them. I'm sick of liberals perverting the Word of God and constantly seeking to turn me a sheep, as the Bible says I am, but a sheep of their God the State. I'm sick and tired of liberals telling me that I should be helpless, and that as a stupid, helpless sheep the only thing I'd do if I were allowed to have a weapon is hurt myself or some other innocent. So only the Shepherd of the religion of the State ought to be allowed to have weapons. I'm sick and tired of being told that I don't have a right to impose my view of marriage on people as the people who tell me that impose their view of marriage on me with in-your-face-hypocrisy. I'm sick of liberals telling me that I'm crazy to believe that human life begins in the womb when they can't produce a single example of a single human who didn't begin in the womb. If their mothers had aborted those liberals, those liberals would have been killed. A child in the womb is human by virtue of the taxonomy of her parents, she is a being by virtue of the fact that she is a living thing: she is a HUMAN BEING. Let's go through the taxonomic system that classifies every single living thing with our unborn baby: That "fetus" (which is Latin for "unborn child" by the way) is classified from the moment of conception as Kingdom-Animal; Phylum-chordata; Class-Mammalia; Order-Primate; Family-Hominid; Genus-Homo; and Species-Sapiens. Just like every human being whose life is precious unless you are describing human value in the hateful religious system of liberalism. These things are simply facts, but the religion of liberalism doesn't give a damn about facts; it is a rabid religious faith. It is in fact a totalitarian religious faith that is missionary in its determined intent to impose itself on heretic unbelievers in Government.
We're watching the Middle East and the world melt down due to President Barack Obama's morally idiotic foreign policy. Right now we've got five million refugees fleeing Obama's collapse, and millions more are going to come behind them. And where the hell are they going to go? And we're ultimately going to see why Obama's epic fail in the Middle East will result in America's epic fail. We're watching the complete vacuum of any kind of moral or military leadership being filled not by the United States but by Russia and now Iran. But there's something in the strategy of the only man who actually HAS a strategy – Vladimir Putin – that I want to close this piece on the religion of liberalism with. Marco Rubio – the man WHO PREDICTED the invasion of Syria by Russia which so stunned and caught Obama off guard – NAILED Putin's strategy:
"Vladimir Putin is deliberately targeting the non-ISIS rebels," Rubio explains. "And here's why: If he's going to wipe out all the non-ISIS elements on the ground in Syria, then they can say: ISIS or Assad, there are no other options. We killed all the non-ISIS people."
"And at that point, he'll be able to force the world to support Assad, and that is what he is doing."
Vladimir Putin is crushing all the non-Islamic State rebels, leaving only Assad's regime and Islamic State. And his plan is then to force America to support Assad's regime as the only viable alternative.
That is precisely what is happening with Christianity. We know damn well what it feels like to be a "non-ISIS rebel" in America right now. Whether it's the Little Sisters of the Poor, whether it's the Christian baker, or the Christian florist – whom a judge demanded the "personal ruin" of – or Kim Davis, the millions of Christians around the world who are being exterminated under the Obama presidency in numbers that have NEVER BEFORE IN ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY BEEN WITNESSED, Christians are being systematically wiped out more than any other group of people on earth. There's a new Holocaust going on right now. And Obama and liberals are participating as much as the bystander of any vile event who does NOTHING participates in the horror they are standing by and allowing to happen.
By commission and by omission, Barack Obama is the world's leading persecutor of Christians in the history of the world in terms of the sheer, mass numbers of Christians whom have suffered under him and as a result of his colossal failure.
Obama has said he is a Christian. He also said that "as a Christian" he was opposed to gay marriage. The latter statement turned out to be an outright lie, and the first one about Obama being a Christian is a lie as well. I have pointed out and documented how Obama's theology has NOTHING whatsoever to do with biblical Christianity. He can go into a church and call himself a "Christian." Just like I can lay down in my garage and call myself a "car." But both statements are equally false.
You shall have no other gods before me, says liberalism. And every Christian who says or believes otherwise shall be devoted to destruction. Because liberalism is a rabid, religious faith. And all we like sheep have gone astray and need to be brought under the Stalinist boot heel for our own good and for the good, for the praise and for the glory, of the State.
That's Ben Carson's real sin. He's "the Coon of the Year" to them. At least that's what a liberal professor in a liberal Ivy League university with the liberal system of tenure protecting her says. She helps us get back to the God of the Bible – whom she calls "a white racist" – versus the liberal God also known as the State.
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On Why The Left So Viscerally Despises Sarah Palin
First, the accompanying brief as I discovered it on Politicons.net:
The very sound of her name provokes reactions that run from reverence to loathing. She has become for better or worse a hopeless tangle of causes and effects. Here is a woman who carries all the symbolic freight of America's culture war. It has become her fate to symbolize everything that some people like, and others detest about this country's red states.
Sarah Palin has been criticized not only for her record and positions but for her intelligence, her accent, her body, her clothes and even her fitness as a mother. And all this in a time of history celebrated as progressive and forward thinking on the issues of women and power. Many of us watched as her sudden rise provoked a kind of hysteria among liberals and media elite that can only be seen to the objective eye as venomous and cutting. The vicious snobbery and breathtaking double standards will certainly have media consequences for years to come.
Now for the seven minute Youtube video via the Atheist Antidote:
Here's the latest despicable episode in the long, long list of despicable episodes of the left vs. Sarah Palin: more death threats by the very people who incredibly call HER the hater.
"Due to an onslaught of personal attacks against Governor Palin and others associated with her appearance, it is with deep sadness and disappointment that, in the best interest of all, we cancel the event for safety concerns."
I also thought it interesting to read about where the political usage of the term "sheep" came from and why it applies so perfectly to liberals – especially media liberals.
This notion as to how the left – particularly liberal women – just viciously tears down Sarah Palin like rabid dogs in spite of the fact that what she is at her core is just a strong, successful woman made me think of this exchange:
Kirsten Powers is an analyst for Fox News. She is a proven liberal. But it turns out she is no friend of the N.O.W.
During the 5 September 2008 broadcast of the Fox News program "Hannity and Colmes," Kirsten Powers said this:
It's not the National Organization for Women, right? But it's not. It's really the National Organization for Liberal Women. It's not the National Organization for Women, because she's a woman. And they put out a statement saying, "Not all women speak for women. Sarah Palin doesn't speak for women." Well, look; this woman, when I look at her – even if I don't support her, you know, a lot of her policies, she is the embodiment of what feminism was all about. She's a mother, she's successful, her husband helps with the children. You know, we should be exited about this, even if you don't support her.
Alan Colmes then said:
If you support someone just because they're a woman, and the National Organization for Women supports anybody whose a woman,then you're saying we're just supporting them because they're a woman, and you're not being discerning at all. So you can't have it both ways.
And Kirsten Powers responded:
I would agree with that if they had any kind of actual moral authority, but they don't, because they don't ever support any women who don't support their very narrow agenda. So they should just rename themselves and say what they're really for, and stop pretending like they really care about the advancement for women.
I believe it's becoming clear that the convoluted "feminism" of the N.O.W. is in trouble. If it dies tough, successful, intelligent and independent women like Sarah Palin and Kirsten Powers will have been the ones that killed it.
I especially liked the part of this video where you have the speaker describing liberals accusing Sarah Palin of being "a retard" and then pointing out that if they really believed that, it should clearly engender a reaction of sympathy rather than hate piled on top of hate.
I have described Sarah Palin and liberals in terms of Jesus and demons. Whenever a demon heard the mere mention of Jesus' name, it just came unglued. And that's pretty much what happens every time a liberal hears the name of Sarah Palin: she just brings the devil right out of them so that any discerning eye can see who and what these people truly are.
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St. Vincent Has Crafted a Magnificent Mythology on Her Own Terms
by Devon Maloney
Renata Raksha
There is performance art. There is rock 'n' roll. And then there are St. Vincent dress rehearsals.
Everyone in the showcase room of Prospect Heights' Complete Music Studios seems to know this, because even at 4 p.m. on the last frigid Friday of January, the end of two months' worth of 12-hour, five-day-a-week rehearsals, each person (four musicians, two managers, a lighting designer, a guitar tech, and a choreographer) dutifully occupies their station.
On a low platform, framed by about a dozen lighting apparatuses, St. Vincent herself, née Annie Clark, stands downstage in a glittering cocktail dress made of a gold vinyl that makes her look like a bionic Metropolis figurine, her frizzy, dyed-gray curls framing her face like an electrified storm cloud. Working her guitar up and down with her signature severity, she stares intently at the opposite wall of windows, twitching her head and limbs robotically as she and her band march through "Rattlesnake," the jittery opening track on her forthcoming fourth solo record, St. Vincent. After three songs, she thanks an invisible crowd in her soothing, singsong lilt.
Then things get weird.
"You were born in the 21st century," she intones, a priestess communicating with spirits. "The corners of your mouth turn down when you laugh. Your favorite word is . . ." She pauses for comedic effect. "Molecular."
Offstage, a crew member begins reading sentences aloud. She repeats them. Clark has written this eerie stage banter in advance, and is now rehearsing lines. "You once tried to make a hot air balloon out of bedsheets. You were disappointed when it did not fly, but you did not give up." The stage bursts to life as Clark and Moog player and guitarist Toko Yasuda commence a robotic dance, skittering forward and backward at opposite intervals like wind-up androids; the lights strobe terrifyingly, turning their moves into a stop-motion play. The lights slow their flicker, and suddenly it looks like there are two Clarks, a dark and a light, fighting over her body while she bends and twangs her strings.
Once in a while, between songs, she speaks to the invisible crowd again. Another song begins, a new ballad, and Clark retreats, guitarless, to the stage centerpiece: a massive powder-pink throne made of stairs, where she lies down, brushing the ground with her fingertips as one might the surface a reflecting pool. Later, she'll return to the throne and throw herself down its steps, headfirst, in strobe-lit slow motion.
Every downbeat, every dead-silent transition, every poke battle over a ther-emin in this proceeding is immaculately scripted, down to Clark's explosive, Byzantine guitar solo on Strange Mercy's "Surgeon."
Reminder: This is just the rehearsal.
"It's sort of like training like a professional athlete," Clark, 31, says two days later, sitting at a table with a small glass of sparkling Italian wine. Somewhere in the world beyond, it is Super Bowl Sunday, but here in the bar of The Standard, East Village, for Annie Clark, it is the end of a bizarre press day, one in which she was asked to go about a normal day with a photographer in tow. (Did they truly want to go to the dry cleaner's with her?) She wears neutral colors and her curls are tucked neatly into a dark beanie; it's a stark contrast from the wild, supernatural Ursula coiffure that has become the iconic centerpiece of St. Vincent since its cover art was revealed in December.
"People have spent money on a ticket, and maybe that money is the equivalent of them spending a day of their life at their job, or half a day. Money is absolutely time," she says. "I feel, now, that it would be disrespectful to work out the kinks on the people who spent a day of their life making the money to buy the ticket to come and have an experience."
For Clark and everyone around her over the past few months, that experience has been everything. St. Vincent is an evolution unlike any other the guitarist has made in her seven years as St. Vincent. She's left 4AD and Beggars Group, her artistic homes since 2007, for Loma Vista, a nascent label backed by the major Republic. She's making music in the wake of a massive collaboration with David Byrne, one that produced Love This Giant, an album that involved marching bands and facial prosthetics, among other wacky experiments. With St. Vincent, Clark wields multiple new swords: a creative director in Willo Perron, the artistic mastermind behind live shows like Kanye West and Lady Gaga; a choreographer in Annie-b Parson, who orchestrated dances on the Love This Giant tour as well as Byrne's previous collaboration with Brian Eno; and, of course, a host of her own innovative guitar-masquerading tricks, twisted pedal-and-synth explorations that add wattage to anything she's made before.
"It's more confident," she says of the record. "I'm extending a hand; I want to connect with people. Strange Mercy, which is a record I'm proud of, [was] definitely a very accurate record of my life at a certain time, but it was more about self-laceration, all the sort of internal struggle. [St. Vincent] is very extroverted."
For all her onstage virtuosic flair — which existed in the form of stage dives long before she added modern dance and a giant pink throne — matching the words "extrovert" and "Annie Clark" feels a bit odd. Though she's played music for at least a decade, first as a touring member of the Polyphonic Spree and in Sufjan Stevens's band, then as a solo artist, St. Vincent has managed to craft a public image that is eloquent, thoughtful, and has virtually nothing to do with her personal life as Annie Clark. Questions from the press about her family — she grew up Catholic in Dallas as one of eight children, and has lived in the East Village for much of her career — or her friends or who she dates are shut down or nimbly redirected toward more "interesting" conversation; rarely do St. Vincent Q&As broach topics beyond her creative process, her gear (her signature axe is a Harmony Bobkat), or her artistic pursuits. She sticks to many of the same lines of dialogue in interviews (which explains why almost every feature about St. Vincent reads the same). Small personal details are pieced together over time, of course, but unlike many artists of her caliber, she's created an anti-cult of personality, a media-savvy mystery determined to keep all eyes on the art instead of the artist.
Even behind the scenes, she remains the consummate professional, rarely exposing more to her team of collaborators than she would an interviewer on a good day. For example, when I suggest to David Byrne over email that Clark is a private person, his first response is, "Ha ha, that's an understatement."
"Despite having toured with her for almost a year I don't think I know her much better, at least not on a personal level," he writes. "We're more relaxed and comfortable around each other, for sure. You could call it privacy, or mystery or whatever — I know a few isolated things about her upbringing, school, and her musical likes and dislikes — but it's nice that there are always surprises, too. Mystery is not a bad thing for a beautiful, talented young woman (or man) to embrace. And she does it without seeming to be standoffish or distant."
That talent for controlling her own narrative without alienating anybody has become, more or less, the crux of her essence and success as St. Vincent. In 2009, Clark told the New York Times that she likes "things that are unsettling." Every subsequent profile, it seems, has extolled her ability to straddle two distinct identities, one warm and one profoundly unknowable. Her lyrics flirt with the candid and the esoteric without committing to either; a review of Strange Mercy lauded its "emotions that are as cryptic as they are genuine and affecting." She creates a dystopia in the video for "Digital Witness," then films a how-to clip demonstrating a soccer trick she learned in grade school for Rookie, a website for teen girls.
And when you interview her, the conversation is always good — she might tell you an unrelated story about her house in college, where a dead rat on the porch once left a visiting older sister weeping for her quality of life — even if she ends up picking the topics most of the time.
"I've learned a few things," she says of her time in the public eye. "I realize this lovely conversation is artificial; [in a real conversation,] I wouldn't talk about myself this much, I just wouldn't. I also know that being too sarcastic or too self-effacing doesn't translate in the press because it's devoid of context. Sometimes journalists ask [female artists] more personal questions." (The questions asked of Clark can get as personal as how much she weighs.)
"From the beginning of her career as St. Vincent, Annie Clark has succeeded in avoiding the confessional in her music," says NPR pop critic Ann Powers. Clark is one of a select few slated to play NPR's SXSW showcase in Austin next month. "This is not easy for a female artist — women in the arts are almost always assumed to be more naturally emotive than men, and less in control of what they produce. So it's a huge accomplishment that St. Vincent [has] succeeded as a construct, and as one that still could hold emotion and deep meaning while still highlighting Clark's mastery."
"You just have to have your own boundaries about things you're willing to talk about and things you're not willing to talk about," Clark says. "Everybody has lives and heartbreaks and disappointments and great joys and all this stuff. But that's what I put into the art. There's an intimacy and a full commitment in the art that makes me feel like it could potentially do a disservice to the art. 'Martha My Dear' is about a dog. I wish I didn't know that."
The power Clark wields isn't just relegated to her art; it resonates, among the people she works with, the people who write about her, and her fans. It's such a strong force that when her commitment to boundaries is questioned, the blowback from her public is immediate: When a comedian condemned Clark's refusal to discuss her love life on a recent podcast, for example, fans and journalists swiftly criticized the move as cruel and contemptuous, and within 48 hours of the podcast's going live, it had been edited and re-uploaded, sans critique; in the following episode, the comedian apologized. (The same comedian wrote a feature about the guitarist a few years ago, a story that, though she's quick to note no hard feelings, Clark says "kind of fit [me] into an agenda and [another] concept of the world, when we had sort of diametrically opposing ideas about the universe.")
"To say one of the corniest things you can say about an artist, [Clark] is a storyteller," says Ann Powers. "I am always curious to follow where her songs go, because they go farther than most by current artists in terms of creating worlds. . . . It takes the listener outside of herself, and I think that makes us less interested in Annie's personal details, too; we want to go on the trip she's charting, which is about dreaming and thinking big, not getting stuck in autobiography."
"As St. Vincent, Annie has very much done this seemingly impossible thing of getting over the women-in-rock hump by being bulletproof; it's allowed a post-gender freedom," says Rookie music editor and frequent Voice contributor Jessica Hopper. Hopper has interviewed Clark (often the subject of agape "women in rock" trendpieces) many times since 2007. "And I think, in some regards, that was her mission: not to be the exception but to be the new rule."
Everything you ever need to know about Annie Clark, the artist reckons in an email a week later from Europe, is already being sung by St. Vincent.
"There is so much autobiography contained within the songs that I don't see the need to deflate them with the mundane," she writes. "I'm not very interested in the 'behind-the-scenes' sacrifices at the altar of the god of content."
Not that there's much room in Clark's schedule for a personal life even if she did want to spill her guts. Twelve-hour practices, all-day photo shoots, days of national and international press, and, presumably, sleep seemingly dominate her life. (Our two-hour conversation will be the only time we'll be able to meet.) It's been this way since at least 2011, she says, when she embarked on the Strange Mercy tour. From there, it was straight into Love This Giant and that tour; throughout that year and a half, she picked up the "experiences, images, ideas, and people" that became St. Vincent and came to life in longtime producer John Congleton's studio back home in Dallas in the fall of 2013. If it were up to her — and for the most part, it is — this is how life would be all the time: consume art, make art, discuss art, perform art, repeat ad infinitum.
"I used to think, at some point, there would be one day when I would learn how to be a well-adjusted person with a home," she says. (Her New York apartment, she says, is full of "deeply uncomfortable, horrifying art" — it's the only thing she likes about it.) "But then I made peace with the fact that I'm not interested in that. I'm not excluding it for the future, but [right now] I would rather be making records."
And at the moment, with a new label, different resources, solid sales (by the end of 2011, Strange Mercy had sold over 50,000 copies), and the potential for massive visibility (she's now been on the Colbert Report twice, and has appeared on Gossip Girl, Comedy Central's @Midnight, and friend Carrie Brownstein's Portlandia), she's gearing up to be able to do that for a long time — far longer than many of her '00s indie-rock compatriots, anyway.
"To come from the world she's come from and to be able to make four albums is almost unheard of nowadays," says Adam Farrell, creative director at Loma Vista. Though now a part of her new label home, Farrell has worked with St. Vincent since her debut, formerly as vice president of creative and marketing at Beggars Group. "Annie fits perfectly with what we are trying to do as a record label. [She] is a unique talent and a vanguard across art and culture."
What's more, Farrell says, Clark understands what her success means to the people who see her succeed.
"She's inspiring to anyone, women and men both, and she knows that," he says. "My seven-year-old daughter is obsessed with her. She saw the photos we took out in L.A. and, from that point on, called her the 'rock-star lady Daddy works with.'"
"The first conversation I ever had with Annie, when I was potentially interested in becoming her agent, was the first of a series of very long phone calls that were absolutely a joy," says David "Boche" Viecelli, president of indie touring agency Billions and senior partner at Lever and Beam, Clark's management company. Boche, like Farrell, has also worked with the guitarist from the beginning. "She was so intelligent and expressive and inquisitive and everything about it just struck me as, 'This is the kind of artist I want to work with.' Now I think she's learned what to pare away as unimportant and what to emphasize as the absolute essence of what she does."
For her fourth album cycle (fifth, if you count Love This Giant) she's wielding that essence and the power that's come from boiling it down in a new way: to create a "stylized," "intentional," and "heavily referenced" experience that's far more incisive than ever before. (Don't call it her Ziggy Stardust, though; "I think it's cohesive but I wouldn't call it a concept album," she says.) Perhaps in part thanks to her work with Byrne, she's intentionally left most of her "orchestral" instrumentals behind, in favor of more angular guitar and synth distortions.
Songs like "Rattlesnake" — a naked communion with nature gone horribly awry — and "Huey Newton" — an Ambien-tripping encounter with the Black Panthers cofounder's ghost — have basis in fact. But even the most banal lines — even, for example, when she sings her to-do list, "take out the garbage, masturbate," on "Birth in Reverse" — are bathed in a science-fiction glow, an effect blown out with the help of Congleton and additional percussion by Dap-Kings' Homer Steinweiss and Midlake's McKenzie Smith. As Clark said in her announcement of the record earlier this year, St. Vincent is "a party record you could play at a funeral": a characterization that, if multiple subsequent interviews are to be trusted, "sounds like myself."
While most of St. Vincent was masterminded alone, her art direction was born of collaboration: a partnership, negotiated by Farrell, with Willo Perron.
"The indie vernacular is always marred with this kind of unintentional, laissez-faire, I-don't-give-a-fuck [attitude]; it's just a snapshot," says Perron. "But in our conversations, we were like, 'Let's do something for that audience that's super intentional.' The performance, the look, everything thought through to minutiae. There's a story, maybe not a narrative-narrative, but an aesthetic story, a through line."
The pair exchanged a steady flow of cultural talismans and assembled a "visual bible" that has guided every artistic element of the newly reborn St. Vincent, from costumes and lighting to videos and, of course, the instantly iconic album art.
"I'm very drawn to symmetrical images, and I wanted to make sure that the cover conveyed a sense of power. That leads you down the rabbit hole of 'What does power mean? What does that translate to? What does that look like?'" Clark says. "In this instance, it seemed as though power was in intentionality. So I'm on the cover, on this pink Memphis chair that's very structured, very symmetrical, very sturdy. But also, it's pink, a soft color. I experimented with different poses; it was so interesting, every micro-movement . . . if I put my legs to the left, it looked like Golden-era Hollywood. If I put my legs to the right, it looked imperious and queenly in a way that was just not it. So I think the cover shot we got, it was like the third shot [we took]. Symmetrical, clean: It was direct."
The result: an aesthetic Perron describes as "postmodern-meets-new-cult-leader," a commanding new identity that takes cues from touchstones like Alejandro Jodorowsky's shamanistic The Holy Mountain (she says she had no idea that Kanye West had picked up on the 1973 film around the same time); the angular, colorful Memphis furniture design movement of 1980s Milan; and (of course) old David Bowie YouTube clips. It's more than a few jumps from the guitarist who wailed, "I don't want to be a cheerleader no more" on her last record (and played a life-size ceramic doll in the corresponding "Cheerleader" video to boot).
The art, as rehearsal showed, doesn't disintegrate when it meets the outside air, either. With the help of lighting designer Susanne Sasic and throne architect Lauren Machen, that otherworldly aura is translated to the tour's stage design. There's little accompanying St. Vincent onstage other than Toko Yasuda, keyboardist Daniel Mintseris, and drummer Matt Johnson, but despite the minimal collection, she says, "everything you hear is made by a human." That means while Mintseris is teasing horns and strings out of his keyboard, the synth tones are coming from Clark's guitar pedals; and when Clark relinquishes her instrument for a melancholy throne lament, Yasuda assumes guitar-picking duties. And of course Annie-b Parson's artfully stiff choreography — for which she mined her own past work designing routines for a fleet of guitar-strapped dancers on David Byrne and Brian Eno's elaborate 2008 tour — fills each and every moment where Clark's limbs are free of instrumental imperative (as well as many moments where they're not).
"She wanted this show to be something powerful, and at the same time, something very supernatural," says Parson, from whom Clark requested frequent notes at the ends of their long-winded rehearsals. "Maybe not the first day you teach her the movement, but the third day, she totally embodies it. She's a very natural performer, so when you give her a movement, she knows what to do with it. That's not typical of a non-dancer, not at all. She's very special."
Of course, despite all the professional high-art talk, Clark's still got a soft spot for the extemporaneous. (She's a crowd-surfing, rip-soloing Dallas-to-New York rock guitarist, after all.) For all her refined tastes, she's still using Netflix and a fourth-generation HBO Go password to binge on Scandal and True Detective. ("I love Matthew McConaughey now. He's a Texas boy. There's something comforting to me about his accent. The only thing I don't like [about the show] is that the women are only prostitutes, nagging wives, or mistresses.") She and Yasuda sometimes use Louis C.K.'s Louie theme song as a vocal warm-up. And the inspiration to bleach her hair came from The ("totally insane") Bachelor: She took the plunge after watching recent contestant Sarah Herron leap off a 30-story building, despite a crushing fear of heights, to stay in the running. "She fucking did it!" Clark exclaims. "She faced her fear. The reasoning is questionable maybe, but she faced her fear, maybe for no good reason, but maybe it's admirable. She had blond hair and I was like, I think I'm gonna go blonde. If she can [go] off a building, why not?"
Yet, true to her paradoxical nature, there's still something profound about her more pedestrian endeavors. At one point, our conversation inexplicably turns to high school sports; when I explain how water polo is played, she responds, eyes wide in amused disbelief: "We distract ourselves from death in so many creative ways."
A week after our meeting at the Standard, Clark and her band are on a very different stage. This one is in Tribeca, at design house Spring Studios, on the occasion of Diane von Furstenberg's Fashion Week show. At the back of the runway, off to the side, St. Vincent and her trio occupy a small platform against a wild backdrop of black and white. It could have been the light before, but her hair — wild again — is definitely lavender at the roots now, and she's traded her gold vinyl frock for a short black wrap dress. Instead, the models are in metallics; as they begin parading looks down the platform, the band opens up and plays a few songs as accompaniment to their strut. While most eyes are on the women sashaying past, Clark performs Parson's choreography through the two or three songs that soundtrack the show, and at the end the models and von Furstenberg take their bows and dance to St. Vincent.
A few minutes after the show concludes, Clark and the band move to a larger stage in a members-only lounge, where high-threshold credit-card holders cluster to watch a live stream of the show projected on a white wall. Everyone is young and dressed as relevantly as possible; supermodel Coco Rocha is here. Now, as guests sip pink cocktails and regale each other with tales of Fashion Week shows past, St. Vincent and Co. rev up again, under deep blue and violet lights. There is no pink throne here tonight, but a small platform takes its place, and as St. Vincent moves back and forth between the edge of the stage and the back, she and her bandmates perform their robotic choreography just as methodically as they did at rehearsal.
Only now there's a spark in Clark's angular joints. Where the robotic moves were truly dead-eyed as she trained, that dance seems just slightly bigger, pumped with the kind of understated adrenaline that historically has preceded fearless leaps into crowds. Of course she doesn't jump, but as she gazes out into the sea of cocktail dresses and tailored blazers, many of whom have probably never heard of St. Vincent, her eyes flicker.
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LEXINGTON, Ky. — A colt by War Front from the family of Hall of Famer Rags to Riches became the most expensive Thoroughbred yearling to sell anywhere in the world to date this year when he commanded $2.4 million from Coolmore's M.V. Magnier during Tuesday's second session of the Keeneland September Yearling Sale. War Front also sired the day's top-priced filly, a half-sister to champion and Kentucky Derby (G1) winner Nyquist, sold for $1.75 million, and a colt from the family of Irish highweights Yesterday (IRE) and Quarter Moon (IRE) for $1.2 million.


Conducting a "like-kind" exchange under Internal Revenue Code section 1031 is one of the few legitimate tax shelters available to individuals, corporations and other business entities engaging in the disposition of assets. And at this time of year, all of us want to avoid taxes of one kind or another.
Deferred Exchanges allow taxpayers to engage in transactions for the exchange of like kind property and avoid capital gains tax on the appreciation in the value of their property. A 1031 exchange (or a tax-deferred exchange) permits investment property owners to sell a property and defer tax payments by reinvesting the proceeds of the sale into a "like-kind" property.
Simply put, it is a method whereby a property owner trades one or more relinquished properties for one or more replacement properties of "like-kind," while deferring the payment of federal income taxes and some state taxes on the transaction.
Unlike a typical sale transaction where the property owner is taxed on any gain realized from the sale, the tax on the gain in a 1031 Exchange is deferred until some future date. The theory is that when a property owner has reinvested the sale proceeds into another property, the economic gain has not been realized in a way that generates funds to pay any tax. In other words, the taxpayer's investment remains the same, only the form has changed, i.e., a parking lot for an apartment building; therefore, it would be unfair to force the taxpayer to pay tax on a "paper" gain.


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«Джиртдан» () — азербайджанский мультфильм, созданный Эльчином Эффендиевым на студии «Азербайджанфильм» в 1969 году. Первый азербайджанский мультипликационный фильм.

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