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|first appearance = [https://wanderinginn.wordpress.com/2017/04/15/2-13/ Chapter 2.13]}}'''Hawk''' is a '''Rabbit''' [[Beastkin]], and one of the fastest [[Couriers]] on [[Izril]]. Though he lives in [[Liscor]], he belongs to the Long Ear Tribe of the Beastkin. He was raised in Liscor by drakes.
'''Hawk''' is a '''Rabbit''' [[Beastkin]], and one of the fastest [[Couriers]] on [[Issrysil]]. Though he lives in [[Liscor]], he belongs to the Long Ear Tribe of the Beastkin. He was raised in Liscor by drakes.
== Appearance ==
He appears as a large, six-pack, muscular, anthropomorphic rabbit, with two long, floppy ears, stuck out over his head, a fuzzy tail and light brown fur with dark spots, including one over his eye. He has brown eyes, a pink nose and furry paws like hands and feet, with five fingers on his hands and four toes on his huge feet.
He appears as a large, six-pack, muscular, anthropomorphic rabbit, with two long, floppy ears, stuck out over his head, a fuzzy tail and light brown fur with dark spots, including one over his eye. He has brown eyes, a pink nose and furry paws like hands and feet, with five fingers on his hands and four toes on his huge feet.<ref name="2.18">[https://wanderinginn.com/2017/04/25/2-17/ Chapter 2.18]</ref>
He is clothed in loose clothing with a shirt, pants and leather coverings over his feet.
== Personality ==
Hawk is good-natured, and takes pride in his skills as a courier. Due to his enhanced hearing, he dislikes loud noises, and thinks poorly of people who make lots of noise.
Hawk is good-natured, and takes pride in his skills as a courier. Due to his enhanced hearing, he dislikes loud noises, and thinks poorly of people who make lots of noise. He has to use soundproofing spells in order to sleep.<ref name=":2.13" />
He is attracted to female drakes, however the different diets has caused numerous problems in his dating life - Drakes tend to dislike vegetables, and Hawk doesn't like eating much meat. Selys dated him once, for two weeks, before dumping him as a result of his excess usage of carrot-based meals.
He is attracted to female drakes, however the different diets has caused numerous problems in his dating life - Drakes tend to dislike vegetables, and Hawk doesn't like eating much meat. [[Selys]] dated him once, for two weeks, before dumping him as a result of his excess usage of carrot-based meals.<ref name=":2.13">[https://wanderinginn.com/2017/04/15/2-13/ Chapter 2.13]</ref>
== Background ==
Hawk was born and raised in [[Liscor]]. After his original parents left him there, he was adopted and named by a Drake couple.
Hawk was born in [[Liscor]]. After his original parents left him there, he was adopted, raised and named by a Drake couple.<ref name=":2.13" />
== Chronology ==
=== Volume 2 ===
Hawk introduced himself to [[Erin]] as she made hamburgers on Liscor's Market Street.<ref name=":2.13" /> He was at the impromptu iPhone concert of Erin and [[Ryoka]] and scored some Drake tail later. The next morning, he gave some advice to Ryoka about running south.<ref name="2.18" />
It took Hawk four days to get to Pallass. There, he heard about General [[Zel Shivertail]] death and also found a spot and set up a connection to the [[Magical Door|magical door]] in an alley. It took him some time, but he figured out how to activate the stone that Pisces gave him and established the doorway to [[the Wandering Inn]].
Misstepping, [[Ilvriss Gemscale|Ilvriss]] and Erin got temporarily stranded in Pallass, instead of enabling Hawk to return to Liscor the short way. Then, the door needed recharging, as predicted by the [Mages].<ref>[https://wanderinginn.com/2018/07/10/5-00/ Chapter 5.00]</ref> In the end, the incident caused Hawk being stuck in Pallass, so that he had to run back.<ref>[https://wanderinginn.com/2018/07/14/5-01/ Chapter 5.01]</ref>
== Powers and Abilities ==
His strength is equivalent to a [[Adventurer|Gold-rank Adventurer]], as he can kill a [[Crypt Lords|Crypt Lord]] alone and is one of the few people who could bother [[Relc Grasstongue|Relc]].
His strength is equivalent to a [[Adventurer|Gold-rank Adventurer]], as he can kill a [[Crypt Lords|Crypt Lord]] alone and is one of the few people who could bother [[Relc Grasstongue|Relc]].<ref name=":2.13" />
As a veteran [Courier], he is able to travel over a hundred miles per day.<ref>[https://wanderinginn.com/2018/06/05/4-43/ Chapter 4.43]</ref>
=== Classes/Levels: ===
* [Courier] Lv. ?
Hawk is trying to become a [Chef], and thus may have some cooking levels.<ref name=":2.13" />
=== Skills:===
== Trivia ==
* He preferred that his parents named him Hakss instead of Hawk.
* He'd have preferred if his parents named him Hakss instead of Hawk.<ref name=":2.13" />
* His usual delivery routes are around 1,000 miles long, sometimes even up to 2,000 miles.
* His usual delivery routes are around 1,000 miles long, sometimes even up to 2,000 miles.<ref name=":2.13" />
* He '''''loves''''' carrots.<ref name=":2.13" />
* Due to his Hyperacusis (Sensitive Hearing), he has to use soundproofing spells in order to sleep.
* He is into Drakes
* He is trying to become a [Chef], in order to court with his carrot recipes.
* He '''''loves''''' carrots.
* He and [[Selys]] used to date for two weeks before they broke up.
==Quotes==
* ([https://wanderinginn.wordpress.com/2017/04/15/2-13/ To] [[Erin Solstice|Erin]]) "You're Erin? Nice to meet you. I'm Hawk."
* ([https://wanderinginn.wordpress.com/2017/04/25/2-17/ To] [[Ryoka Griffin|Ryoka]] & [[Valceif Godfrey|Val]]) "Oh come on! Do you think I'd be into fleshy people like you? I'd rather kiss a Minotaur first. At least they have something covering them! Furballs, you humans are so touchy."
* ([https://wanderinginn.wordpress.com/2017/04/25/2-17/ To] [[Ryoka Griffin|Ryoka]] & [[Valceif Godfrey|Val]]) "Oh come on! Do you think I'd be into fleshy people like you? I'd rather kiss a Minotaur first. At least they have something covering them! Furballs, you humans are so ''touchy.''"
* ([https://wanderinginn.com/2018/05/17/4-36-o/ To] [[Olesm Swifttail|Olesm]] & [[Pisces]]) "Cool. That's great, Olesm. Glad I decided to deliver it. Hey, do you know anything about those Goblins in Erin's inn? I nearly kicked one when I came through the door. Hello? Guys?"
* ([https://wanderinginn.com/2018/07/10/5-00/ To] [[Erin Solstice|Erin]] & [[Ilvriss Gemscale|Ilvriss]]) "Right. Well. Miss Solstice, Wall Lord, welcome to Pallass, north-most of the Walled Cities.
* ([https://wanderinginn.com/2018/07/10/5-00/ To himself]) "No one pays me enough for this job."
* ([https://wanderinginn.com/2018/07/14/5-01/ To himself]) "Screw the Runner's Guild regulations. I'm [[Illphres|charging]] [[Erin Solstice|them]] triple for this."
* ([https://wanderinginn.com/2018/07/31/5-08/ To] [[Selys Shivertail|Selys]]) "Thanks. I've got better ones. Ancestors, this is the ''second'' time I've had to defend Liscor in months! First the undead, now this!"
== Chapter Appearances ==
[[Category:Couriers]]
[[Category:Beastkin]]
[[Category:Rabbit Beastkin]]
[[Category:Liscor]]
[[Category:Issrysil]]
[[Category:Izril]]
Beastkin - Rabbit
Runner's Guild
Hawk is a Rabbit Beastkin, and one of the fastest Couriers on Izril. Though he lives in Liscor, he belongs to the Long Ear Tribe of the Beastkin. He was raised in Liscor by drakes.
5.1 Classes/Levels:
5.2 Skills:
8 Chapter Appearances
He appears as a large, six-pack, muscular, anthropomorphic rabbit, with two long, floppy ears, stuck out over his head, a fuzzy tail and light brown fur with dark spots, including one over his eye. He has brown eyes, a pink nose and furry paws like hands and feet, with five fingers on his hands and four toes on his huge feet.[1]
Hawk is good-natured, and takes pride in his skills as a courier. Due to his enhanced hearing, he dislikes loud noises, and thinks poorly of people who make lots of noise. He has to use soundproofing spells in order to sleep.[2]
He is attracted to female drakes, however the different diets has caused numerous problems in his dating life - Drakes tend to dislike vegetables, and Hawk doesn't like eating much meat. Selys dated him once, for two weeks, before dumping him as a result of his excess usage of carrot-based meals.[2]
Hawk was born in Liscor. After his original parents left him there, he was adopted, raised and named by a Drake couple.[2]
Hawk introduced himself to Erin as she made hamburgers on Liscor's Market Street.[2] He was at the impromptu iPhone concert of Erin and Ryoka and scored some Drake tail later. The next morning, he gave some advice to Ryoka about running south.[1]
It took Hawk four days to get to Pallass. There, he heard about General Zel Shivertail death and also found a spot and set up a connection to the magical door in an alley. It took him some time, but he figured out how to activate the stone that Pisces gave him and established the doorway to the Wandering Inn.
Misstepping, Ilvriss and Erin got temporarily stranded in Pallass, instead of enabling Hawk to return to Liscor the short way. Then, the door needed recharging, as predicted by the [Mages].[3] In the end, the incident caused Hawk being stuck in Pallass, so that he had to run back.[4]
His strength is equivalent to a Gold-rank Adventurer, as he can kill a Crypt Lord alone and is one of the few people who could bother Relc.[2]
As a veteran [Courier], he is able to travel over a hundred miles per day.[5]
Classes/Levels:
[Courier] Lv. ?
Hawk is trying to become a [Chef], and thus may have some cooking levels.[2]
He'd have preferred if his parents named him Hakss instead of Hawk.[2]
His usual delivery routes are around 1,000 miles long, sometimes even up to 2,000 miles.[2]
He loves carrots.[2]
(To Erin) "You're Erin? Nice to meet you. I'm Hawk."
(To Ryoka & Val) "Oh come on! Do you think I'd be into fleshy people like you? I'd rather kiss a Minotaur first. At least they have something covering them! Furballs, you humans are so touchy."
(To Olesm & Pisces) "Cool. That's great, Olesm. Glad I decided to deliver it. Hey, do you know anything about those Goblins in Erin's inn? I nearly kicked one when I came through the door. Hello? Guys?"
(To Erin & Ilvriss) "Right. Well. Miss Solstice, Wall Lord, welcome to Pallass, north-most of the Walled Cities.
(To himself) "No one pays me enough for this job."
(To himself) "Screw the Runner's Guild regulations. I'm charging them triple for this."
(To Selys) "Thanks. I've got better ones. Ancestors, this is the second time I've had to defend Liscor in months! First the undead, now this!"
Chapter Appearances
See Here.
↑ 1.0 1.1 Chapter 2.18
↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 Chapter 2.13
↑ Chapter 5.00
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Pizzagate: Debunking the Debunkers
Undeniable Evidence in the Pizzagate Scandal
Major media reports on Pizzagate would have us believe that anyone who gives credence to this story is off their rocker. The term "fake news" rose to prominence shortly after this story broke in early November of 2016, and was quickly applied to debunk any report seriously investigating Pizzagate.
Only one major media news report (from the CBS Atlanta affiliate) has presented solid evidence of this disturbing story of powerful people possibly involved in pedophilia. Yet two days after it was aired, that revealing news video was strangely removed from the CBS website and replaced by a report on fake news about Donald Trump. This disappearance of a key news story and the undeniable evidence below suggests Pizzagate is a huge story that someone doesn't want you to know about.
Note that the pedophilia issue has nothing to do with political affiliation. Though Pizzagate involves mostly high level Democrats, many Republicans have been convicted of child abuse. The most prominent case – which got very little press – was the conviction of Republican Dennis Hastert, who served as the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, one of the most powerful political positions in the Unites States. Hastert was sent to prison by a judge who called him a "serial child molester." He also happens to be friends with Tony Podesta, one of the key players in Pizzagate.
Pizzagate originated from the Wikileaks release of thousands of emails from John Podesta in October and November of 2016. Podesta served both as chief of staff for Bill Clinton in the White House and campaign manager for Hillary Clinton. The Pizzagate story got its name from a number of strange usages of the word pizza in the released emails. Yet the most powerful evidence of something serious involving Pizzagate can be found in the archived Instagram account of James Alefantis, owner of Comet Ping Pong Pizza in Washington, DC.
Alefantis with Tony Podesta in Podesta's home
Alefantis is connected with John Podesta, as evidenced by this email exchange released by Wikileaks in which Podesta agrees to have dinner with him. Alefantis is also friends with John Podesta's lobbyist brother Tony, who was named by GQ magazine as one of the 50 most powerful people in Washington, DC. John Podesta did not make that list, by the way, yet strangely, James Alefantis was included in this list of the 50 most powerful people in Washington.
All but a handful of the 50 people listed on GQ's list are deeply involved in politics or the media, and many are household names. So how did James Alefantis, known only as an owner of two DC restaurants and an art aficionado make this list of most powerful people? Watch this video interview or read this 2015 Metro Weekly article on Alefantis and you have to wonder how he earned that distinction.
To explore this question, take a look at the archived Instagram account of Alefantis, who goes by the username "jimmycomet." Shortly after the Pizzagate story exploded on the Internet, he made his account private, but it is still available in the archives at the link below. But warning, be prepared for some very disturbing images, some of which are very sexually suggestive.
https://archive.fo/CiDXD
For those who choose not to explore the above link, here are three non-explicit images from the account to give an idea of this unusual material. The side comments are quite revealing.
Please note that the photo of Obama playing ping pong with a child is not meant to implicate Obama in this, though it does appear from the comments that Alefantis managed to get invited to a White House Christmas party.
These three images alone are enough to raise alarm bells. And if you look at all the images in Alefantis' account at the link above, over half of them either are sexually suggestive, involve children, involve S&M, or some combination of the above. Several of them explicitly link sex to pizza, which is where the term Pizzagate comes from. One image is a poster promoting the film Lolita with an image of a vagina. For those who don't know, Lolita was all about a man carrying on a sexual relationship with a 12-year-old girl.
Notice in the last image above Alefantis gives the definition of a chicken lover as "an adult male homosexual sexually attracted to underage males." He is openly gay. David Brock, the gay founder of the popular website Media Matters, paid $850,000 in hush money when he started dating Alefantis (as reported in this Fox News article) to keep his previous lover quiet. What was Brock trying to hush? From his Instagram account, it is clear Alefantis has an obsession with sex and with children. Many of the images and comments are highly suggestive of sex with children.
Based on all of this, here is a theory certainly worth exploring: Could the reason Alefantis is listed among the 50 most powerful people in the capital city of the United States be that he is running a child sex ring which serves the powerful elite. And are some of the strange references to pizza both in the comments of Alefantis in his Instagram account and in a number of the leaked Podesta emails actually a code word for child sex? Another important question is why is the media debunking this, and why was the one CBS report that did come out removed and replaced in very short order?
The Podesta Brothers
Now take a look at Alefantis' powerful friend Tony Podesta and his interest in sexual art. Here are key quotes from a Sept. 23, 2004 Washington Post article on Tony's strange art tastes:
Podesta is counted among the nation's most important contemporary art collectors. Inside the elite Chelsea galleries, he and his wife, Heather, are gossiped about. All the art stars know their names. In Washington, the couple is recognized, too. Podesta, 60, has ridden a long career on Capitol Hill to his current perch as a top-tier lobbyist. He spearheaded President Clinton's successful 1996 Pennsylvania campaign.
Tony favors art with in-your-face nudity and social critique. A piece in [his] Woodley Park living room [is a] nearly eight-foot-tall color photo. [It's] an update of a late-15th-century painting of the dead Jesus [which] replicates the original ... in vivid color and minute detail [minus] the shroud, displaying his subject in all his nakedness. "You've got to be pretty secure to have an eight-foot-tall naked man in your living room in Washington, D.C.," Heather says. Tony's younger brother John (yes, that John, Bill Clinton's former chief of staff) admires his choices.
Folks attending a house tour ... earlier this year got an eyeful when they walked into a bedroom at the Podesta residence hung with multiple color pictures by Katy Grannan, a photographer known for documentary-style pictures of naked teenagers in their parents' suburban homes. "They were horrified," Heather recalls, a grin spreading across her face.
Another example of Podesta's most unusual taste in art is mentioned in this wikileaks email from artist Marina Abramovic to Tony Podesta, where she says:
Dear Tony,
I am so looking forward to the Spirit Cooking dinner at my place. Do you think you will be able to let me know if your brother is joining?
All my love, Marina
Abramovic on cover of Dust magazine
What is Spirit Cooking, you might ask? Abramovic shot a video of this most strange form of art, which you can watch on this webpage. However, viewer beware! The video is quite disturbing even though it only uses fake blood.
In one part of the video, Abramovic paints these words on the wall: "With a sharp knife, cut deeply into the middle finger of your left hand. Eat the pain." In another part, she pours fake blood over child-sized statues. If you don't have the stomach for the video, you can get an idea by doing a search of Google images using "Marina abramovic spirit cooking" or simply click here. Why were the Podesta brothers invited to join her in this Spirit Cooking? Is it just art?
Another example of the bizarre art work of Abramovic is also optional here because it is quite graphic and involves nudity. To see two photos of Lady Gaga (on left) standing beside Marina Abramovic as they admire a full-sized, blood-covered corpse Abramovic created as art for the "Devil's Heaven" gala benefit, click here.
[Note: Since this article was posted, almost all of the disturbing Devil's Heaven photos of Lady Gaga and Abramovic with the bloodied corpse appear to have been removed from the Internet. For an example take a look at this MTV page. Why doesn't someone want us to see these?]
Is this evidence from Pizzagate proof the Podesta brothers and Comet Ping Pong Pizza owner James Alefantis are involved in child sexual abuse or a high-level child sex trafficking ring? No. But there is enough solid, disturbing evidence here to demonstrate without doubt that these people at the least have a strange and disturbing obsession with sexually explicit art and images sexualizing children. The fact that Alefantis is listed among the 50 most powerful people in Washington would also suggest he is doing something major to draw the attention of Washington's elite.
Once again, the question arises, why has the media has come down so hard debunking any reports of this? Certainly the evidence is disturbing, but don't blood and guts often lead in the news?
Other Major Cases of Pedophilia
Pizzagate is but one of many cases where events with reliable, verifiable evidence of child prostitution rings at high levels have been reported and then repressed and debunked. For undeniable evidence of powerful child prostitution rings leading to the highest levels of of the U.S. government, watch the suppressed Discovery Channel documentary "Conspiracy of Silence." An excellent segment by Australia's "60-Minutes" team "Spies, Lords and Predators" also covers a pedophile ring in the U.K. which reaches to the highest levels of government.
Then there are the many major media reports, such as a New York Times article on child sex abuse in Hollywood, this CNN report covering massive Pentagon child pornography accusations, a Reuters article titled "Britain shocked by growing soccer child abuse scandal," a Forbes article titled "Government Workers With Ties to Child Porn," a BBC report on the huge scandal around popular U.K. TV personality Jimmy Savile who abused over 450 victims, and much more available here.
If you want to know more and choose to research Pizzagate on the Internet, you'll find a huge amount of material and lots more evidence suggesting the possibility of major child pedophile rings reaching the highest levels. You'll also find lots of major media debunking of solid evidence. Yet you'll also find a lot of people jumping to conclusions based on questionable evidence. It's important to be discerning and check the sources of all information for reliability and verifiability.
As you consider these disturbing matters, let's not forget the power of sexuality to compromise almost anyone. Where have each of us in our lives been inappropriate or treated ourselves or others badly in sexual ways? As we do our best to expose and stop sexual abuse out in the world, let us also do our best to reach ever higher levels of integrity in our own sexuality. See the box below for suggestions on what you can do to further educate yourself and make a difference.
With best wishes for a transformed world,
Former White House interpreter and whistleblower
Important Note: Watch an excellent eight-minute video summarizing some of the best points of the Pizzagate evidence. Then check out another very well researched video on the topic. If you are open to exploring just how deep this rabbit hole goes, I highly recommend reading this well researched, excellent essay on cults and child abuse.
See a excellent summary of Pizzagate and the most recent research. See also other balanced explorations on this webpage and this one.
Explore an excellent online essay which ties together child sex abuse and secret mind control programs used to manipulate global politics.
Investigate highly revealing excerpts of major media articles revealing sex abuse at the highest levels.
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Linux Distribution Deb, ISO Ideas and Discussion.
and i have thought about this for a bit and over my break. which is from now until about march next year i would do some opensource development work. get my skills up etc.
but then again thats what i will perceive this as. a learning experience.
but i would like to lend a hand. even if my skills aren't that great.
i have started up a new development environment. now using Puppy Linux.
previously i had a bloated ubuntu install. i thought if all goes well and i get it working and openMW compiled. i could package the whole thing as an image.
if this has already been done, let me know.
if not. let me know what you think. and any limitations there are on any of the libraries that are being used in terms of distribution etc.
i know i can't put the esms/bsas with it. so don't worry about that.
Zini wrote: Currently we only have source distributions for Linux. But having OpenMW properly packaged certainly wouldn't hurt. I guess we could upload the files at Sourceforge together with the Linux source packages and the Windows binaries.
I went with a minimal install. though it still takes up a damn huge chunk on my hdd.
a few issues with gnome and xserver but isn't too much of a problem.
atm it has cmake and codeblocks. terminal and software centre on it.
i will upload a distro image somewhere soon.
C++ is a little harder than C# - there are comparisons out there that cover the technical line-by-line differences if you wanna see, but since you're into C# I'm gonna assume you've played with XNA (which is awesome).
C# is very friendly - it handles all sorts of internal management that, if you don't mind spending the hardware resources, lets you get right to work.
Not so much with C++ - in C++ you have to split yourself in two, and since so many learn programming in school through java and other languages, a lot of the understanding of memory management and the real splits between implementation files and header files that go into what the project IS can be hard to get used to. C++ does not hold hands - it's made for complex projects.
On the bright side - it is THE thing, despite naysayers, for game programming, but it is quite advanced and takes a lot of experience.
You're kinda in the same boat as I am - I don't have a lot of experience and my knowledge is still developing. (not to mention the lack of time, which I regretfully say has paused my documentation bonanza.) BUT! Just keep working at it and eventually we'll get to a point where we can organize all of our programmers and everyone can contribute on their own time.
All those good habits are important.
yes i have played with XNA. its pretty sweet. something i will be using next year with my friend for our own game. but we gotta design the whole thing from top to bottom first.
and recently just finished a course at uni that used ruby (with rails).
anyway. where could i upload a 1.5gb image file?
Zini wrote: The right place to store the file would be Sourceforge (all our other releases are stored there). But only Nico can upload there, so you will have to find out how to get the file to Nico.
Though for Ubuntu the preferred type of distribution would be a .deb file, right?
btw. why it is so big? 1.5gb sounds pretty bloated.
Zini wrote: Opps. Sorry. My previous post was obviously nonsense. If it is a complete working live-CD then it obviously has to be that big.
I still think a more reasonable thing for Ubuntu would be just a .deb. Having an Ubuntu/OpenMW live-CD is kinda overkill.
I'd say take full advantage of online packages and repositories - but you obviously need the stuff up to be able to provide that service.
Hircine wrote: yes it is a live cd.
as its a backup style image. made by remastersys.
it contains everything needed except MW datafiles.
if a .deb would be better, could someone point me in the right direction of creating one?
EDIT: I definitely think a deb package would be better. but it will be 400+MBs i'd imagine.
appropriate sources using apt-get(or other package managers) if running ubuntu.
EDIT2: Threw up some info on the wiki in the Developemen Environment Setup, with a selection of commands that gets dev packages for Ubuntu.
ill keep working on it as i remember them.
Hircine wrote: I definitely think a deb package would be better. but it will be 400+MBs i'd imagine.
You started out writing about enabling easier testing, so I'm assuming we are talking about simple binary packages of openmw. Not simplifying the setup of a build environment.
Considering we can't distribute Morrowind's data files we only have the binary and some resources. In my current build that amounts to about 16MB, deb archives are compressed so an actual package will be smaller.
There is the slight problem that the version of libogremain in the repositories are a bit dated (for Debian at least), but a package for that shouldn't be more than a few MB either.
Hircine wrote: another option is possibly a bash script that installs all required packages from appropriate sources using apt-get(or other package managers) if running ubuntu.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I don't really see how this is another option. What apt-get does is (simplified) downloading and installing deb packages. So for that to be an option there is still a need for a package.
Hircine wrote: easier development. the deb package i want to build when i get around to it, will have everything included needed to run OpenMW and develop it.
this isn't about redistributing openmw for people to play. this is a quick and sure-fire way of being able to develop Openmw without having to go through pain of getting it setup.
there are issues on any development platform in regards to getting OpenMW working.
there is another set of repos that contain 1.7.1 & also a full development package (OIS, mygui & full ogre)... you have to override the ubuntu ones to get them.
but it seems as tho you have to have a premium membership to download it.
ignore it for now// and ill try and get a deb package together.
The 16MB is openmw binary and resources, Ogre not included.
I tried to build a package of it and ended up at 7MB.
Current Ogre version in the Debian repository have a combined package size of about 3.5MB, comparing with the 1.7.1 I build I doubt it would be much larger. This is just headers and libraries, excluding samples etc.
Hircine wrote: this isn't about redistributing openmw for people to play. this is a quick and sure-fire way of being able to develop Openmw without having to go through pain of getting it setup.
I'm not sure if packages will help that much for the development environment.
There is already packages for everything except the openmw source and Ogre in the standard repositories. And for Ubuntu you have Ogre available from a 3rd party repository.
This leaves the openmw source, which I believe should be pulled from the git repository rather than be distributed as a snapshot. As the point of setting up a development environment is that you will be making changes.
I suppose you could script this as you wrote earlier.
Personally I think just providing clear instructions should be enough.
Clearly list the dependencies and which packages provide them.
Peppe wrote: I suppose you could script this as you wrote earlier.
ill write up a list.
Pahanilmanlintu wrote: A deb package would be great for people like me who would like to test it but aren't too familiar with building stuff from source.
Peppe wrote: No doubt binary packages will be beneficial for users who just want to run the application.
I'm not sure the application is complete enough at this point though.
There certainly is a need for a few changes to configuration and resource handling before it can be packaged properly. I.e. binary in /usr/bin, platform independent resources in /usr/share, user configuration files in the user's home directory, etc. But this should be fairly easy to fix.
What I'm more worried about at this point is the users' expectations.
Would a normal user who gets a package of the current state understand what to expect from it and what not to expect? Will it encourage users' to stay around for newer versions or will the incompleteness scare them away.
Hircine wrote: at this point im not too worried about Endusers.
its about making life easier for the developers.
Im currently getting the latest Ubuntu downloaded so i can go and make a list of packages that are needed so all a dev has to do is copy paste a command to install everything. then they can go about handling the downloading of the git package etc.
the required packages list for OpenMW.
let me know if i have forgotten anything.
Pahanilmanlintu wrote: Hey. I haven't got any dev stuff installed on my ubuntu 10.10 64bit, and i haven't yet managed to install OpenMW, so i'm a suitable test subject for your instructions.
I followed them exactly (well, except for making a folder "build" instead of "Build"). Cmake is missing from the list of packages to install. Once i installed that and continue, cmake gets stuck with "CMake Error: your CXX compiler: "CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER-NOTFOUND" was not found. Please set CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to a valid compiler path or name."
Compiler missing? Apt-get says gcc is the newest version.
Zini wrote: gcc is the package without the C++ compiler, right? For C++ you need g++.
Hircine wrote: yeah i had g++ as a dependency to get as part of the list, but i think Ap0 removed it.
if all thats missing is the compiler, then the list is complete.
/home/veepee/Downloads/openmw/openmw/./libs/mangle/stream/clients/ogre_datastream.hpp:29: error: â??WRITEâ?? is not a member of â??Ogre::DataStreamâ??
/home/veepee/Downloads/openmw/openmw/components/bsa/bsa_archive.cpp:142: error: cannot allocate an object of abstract type â??BSAArchiveâ??
Could it be that the current git snapshot(?) doesn't compile?
Zini wrote: Sorry, somehow missed your post. This is a problem on your side. OpenMW compiles just fine. Looks like the wrong OGRE version. You need at least 1.7.1.
but people proficient with Linux. who know what to do. but don't know the exact packages (trust me if you don't know what to get you can waste hours).
if your proficient with C++ (we need all the devs we can get ) but not at linux, maybe i should write a more thorough guide.
run that and see if you have the proper version.
getting the key added as trusted is an important step. i might do a video tutorial if i find a suitable screen cap and voice recorder software package for Linux.
so i might just be able to do it.
anyways let me know if a vid would help.


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Russell Brand talks stardom, sex scenes in new memoir
Russell Brand has landed his best role yet playing himself, in his new memoir "Booky Wook 2: This Time It's Personal," a sequel to his memoir "Booky Wooky."
Oct. 13, 2010, 10:24 AM UTC / Source: TODAY books
Actor Russell Brand is known for his hilarious roles in the movies "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" and "Get Him to the Greek." Now, the British bad boy has landed his best role yet playing himself, for the second time around in his new memoir "Booky Wook 2: This Time It's Personal," a sequel to his best-selling memoir "Booky Wooky."
My first day of filming was enormous. A massive, expensive scene with hundreds of extras, it was set at a celebratory barbecue or a "Luau" I believe they'd call it. There are four Hawaiian words you have to learn if you are to survive the constant goodwill, and the other three are "Mahalo", "Olu'olu" and "Aloha".
They all sound pretty much the same to me — like a deaf person asking for a Polo — but I am assured they have different meanings. In the scene my character had to serenade Sarah Marshall and enact what the script referred to as simply "sexy dancing".
This is a situation where I would have definitely got drunk in the old days. I was petrified of singing in front of all those extras, cast and crew. It was a hot day, tropical. The pretty, natural coastal glade had a bizarre set superimposed on it — wooden chairs and tables, a stage with grass-skirted Hawaiian women and a fella with a little Hawaiian guitar. Actually that's not bizarre, they could've been there anyway. But also there were cables and cameras and craft services, big trucks and lights. And me, scared stiff. "I'm famous in England," I thought. "Why don't I go home and be famous there and pretend there is no America?" But you cannot pretend there isn't an America, they won't let us, they're everywhere with their golden arches and swooshes on trainers and Coke cans and latterly, yes, their step in the right direction with Barack Obama, but a true revolutionary would argue that it's still a step in a Nike jackboot.
In a way it was a blessing, because I was flung in at the deep end. I got up on the pretend wooden stage in front of all those pretend people and sang "Inside of You", an innuendo-laden song which is explicitly about being "inside of you" emotionally, but the treble entendre of the piece is, "inside of you" vaginally, and indeed, possibly anally. Jason wrote it — and we can never truly be sure of his intentions. Given however that he has subsequently, whilst on a college tour supporting Maroon 5, performed a hilarious song called "Would it be wrong of me to use my celebrity status to have sex with a college girl tonight?" I think we can reasonably assume his intentions were cheeky. I sang Segel's filthy lyrics and "sexy danced" like it was nineteen ninety-nine. It went well. Judd was on set that day and I've since seen footage shot for the DVD of everyone laughing and enjoying my antics, which goes some way to making up for the descent into madness and reminds me why I pursue this path, to make people laugh.
From then on in I tried to focus on the fact that I was on the island to work, it wasn't about my neurosis. I struggle in these situations not to let my madness govern me, and to let the positive aspects of my character define my life.
It became clear that there was to be no on-set romance with Kristen when Jason revealed that she had a boyfriend right when I was in the middle of doing some world-class flirting, which I'm sure was about to send her knickers pinging off into the sea. There I was, joking and winking and possibly jigging by the catering lorry, when Segel sidled over like a handsome oak tree and said, "How's your boyfriend, Kristen?" I packed up my sideshow sharpish, like a snake oil salesman when the townspeople realise their teeth have gone yellow, and pitched up by Mila Kunis. I was running some pretty good gear — stuff that would have thighs being flung open from Truro to Aberdeen — when Mila casually revealed she too had a boyfriend. Then in a needlessly vindictive twist of the knife she added that her sweetheart was the little boy out of Home Alone. Initially I was disgusted, thinking her some kind of sexy, female nonce, then I remembered that fifteen years had passed since then and he would probably be an adult by now. He turned up at some point and was very cool and nice as it happens. At least he didn't stroll into my shack, because after the twin co-star rejection I'd restarted the Russell Brand football league. Well, I had to do something or I'd've gone blind.
If my farcical romantic narrative had ended badly, it was as nothing compared to the slapstick extracurricular lessons I had to undertake to prepare me for the series of technically demanding stunts I had to do, like horse-riding. I thought, horse-riding, that'll be a laugh. Well it wasn't. It's really hard, mostly because it rapidly becomes apparent that the horse doesn't want you riding it. I don't think my horse was even that happy being a horse. I don't think he'd accepted it; he looked a bit embarrassed. Like he'd gone to bed as a French stockbroker with a future and woken up with a big, long head stinking of horse s---. He was a big, muscly coward. But in fairness to him, it looks like it'd be inconvenient to be a horse, walking around on those spindly chopstick legs. He'd look at me from the side of his narrow face, all bashful. "Oh, I'm sorry, I seem to have been reborn a horse," he whinnied through his gritted bridle.
The equine woman in charge, who had one of those delightful bottoms horse-women have, tried telling me that riding a horse is just like driving a car. Well, obviously, I can't drive a f---ing car. All those buttons and switches and levers. A lever would make things easier — I don't like trying to control a wild and savage beast with merely a bit of rope around its neck — it's all limp and useless. I'd prefer an iron rod screwed into the base of its skull — that would give you some authority over its direction. And, for your information, big bum, it isn't like driving a car. A car won't, of its own volition, suddenly without forethought canter off into a garage and fill itself up with petrol. Sometimes, a horse just gets hungry and goes and gets dinner at the side of the road — grass they like.
Neither did I relish being aggressive to the horse — the lady told me to kick him in the ribs with my heel and "show it you're the boss". How am I the boss? He goes horse-riding every day — I've only been once. Worse was to come when I had to actually film a scene while perched on the hairy maniac's back. By this time we hated each other. I told him it wasn't my idea to kick him and that I wasn't crazy about sitting on him, but relations had broken down. On the morning of the shoot we were like divorced parents making brittle small talk on sports day. In the scene we — me and the horse — had to gallop from our mark about 100 metres, at the end of which there were literal wranglers, actual wranglers, to prevent the horse running beyond the parameters required. And I think they were wearing Wranglers, so that was good. Nick called "Action" and we galloped along for a bit while they filmed. I sat on the horse pretending that everything was OK, and for a few seconds it was. "Perhaps we've finally bonded!" I thought. This is a film within a film, where a boy and his horse, despite their differences, become friends. Yes, I've overcome this beast, I thought — "I'm a horse whisperer!" I shouted. Then I whispered it, as I thought that would be more appropriate. Finally after seven seconds or so the hundred yards had been covered and we reached the wranglers. "STOP! STOP!" they bawled, but they could've bawled anything because the horse doesn't have language — he certainly didn't understand my whispering. Them wranglers may as well have recited a quick verse of Rimbaud. At least I'd have enjoyed that. The horse kept on galloping along past the wranglers, I noticed in passing they were wearing Levi's — the hypocrites — and through the glade. I was under no illusion about who was in control then. I couldn't negotiate with the horse. Do not negotiate with terrorists or horses. They don't like it. They don't listen anyway. He'd noticed the dynamic had been reversed and he was really happy about it. He kept up his merciless galloping till we got back to his stable. I thought, "Surely he's not taking me in there," but he was and he did. He proudly trotted in with me, his raggy-doll hostage emasculated on his back, like a Jar Jar Binks rucksack. It was so quiet in there. I was embarrassed. My horse was acting like everything was normal but the others stopped what they were doing and stared at me. "What are you doing in here?" they haughtily intoned. "We do our s---s in here." I clambered down off my high horse, descended my ivory tower and tried not to puke up all the humble pie I'd been force fed. If you've seen Sarah Marshall you may now be thinking, "Hmmm, I don't remember the horse-riding scene." That is because my horse-riding was so unrealistic it was deemed "unusable". Even as a DVD extra.
I was also taught surfing, which was difficult. I'm not against it as a notion, but it's one of those words that elicit an image which is incongruous with the actuality, like happy-slapping. Surfing should be called "foam-choking" or "sea stabbing". If you're a bit of a clever clogs perhaps you'll think of a theory and later learn that Heidegger or Nietzsche came up with it first, but you'll still feel quite proud of your intellectual ability. I do that sometimes, but I never would've come up with the idea of surfing. I have never looked at the ocean in all its timeless might and thought, "I shall stand on that. Put a plank on its back, then stand on the plank." We humans are denser than water. Surfing is waging war with physics. That is a battle we can never win. Walking on water is difficult. Even Jesus only did it the once. He didn't make it a hobby and do it every weekend. "Hey, dude! Let's cross the Sea of Galilee."
The deep is too mysterious a place for frivolity. Creatures lurk there that have deep blue voodoo. The ocean around those islands is home to whales and dolphins. Sometimes I'd see them and be comforted. The first time I saw dolphins I was away writing with Nik. Until I saw them I'd always questioned those who had dolphin tattoos or listened to dolphin albums. One day we took a fruitless boat trip that had been no fun so we headed home, glumly silent but for the raging outboard racket, when a dolphin was sighted.
At first it is exciting, like when you see a cheeky monkey. "Look, a dolphin!" someone'll say. Then ensues an age of uncertainty where every breach in the surface is pointlessly leapt upon — "There's one!" It is not one. It is a crisp packet. "What about that?" It is some polystyrene.
Then, as you begin to question whether or not the initial sighting was just attention seeking from Nik, out from the deep, a lithe and glistening exclamation mark of pure mammalian life punctuates the void with the resolute music that silently scores all wonder. "That was a f---ing dolphin!" "Yeah, I saw that one!" We give chase and draw near, and soon the distant dance becomes an omnipresent carnival. We slice in our vessel through the ocean's emissaries, they lead us and flank us, they follow and mirror. All about us these shimmering angels of the sea communicate through motion. The excitement is replaced by awe. We can hear them ripple and breathe, scorching grey, liquid flames they are, born and reborn with each emergence. I'd always questioned whether or not dolphins were actually any good or just one of those things that everyone assumes are great without really questioning it – like the Dalai Lama or blowjobs — but they are; burgeoning marble ghosts that embody grace. Among them we all became silent and transfixed, somewhere between a funeral and a firework display. These are the moments where one feels proximity to truth, where the supernatural becomes tangible. The ocean is not for humans.
A scene for which you'd assume I'd had sufficient practice over a lifetime, but in fact I could've done with some more, was the sex scene I had to do with Kristen Bell. Nick Stoller asked me if I minded if he filmed my arse, which I did, so they gave me these flesh-coloured briefs to wear. Is there a less erotic conglomeration of language than "flesh-coloured briefs"? They're the colour of a prosthetic limb. Underneath the briefs they gave me a little sack-sock thing to put my much-honoured genitals in. There was a drawstring on the top of it — like that bag put on Saddam Hussein's head when he was executed.
I felt that was out of order to ol' Saddam Hussein, because I'd come round to the opinion that we should let him off. This opinion was mainly influenced by knowledge acquired when they dug him up out of that hole in the ground. He came out a bit dirty with a long beard, looking like a Father Christmas who'd been sacked from a department store grotto for being drunk at work. Well, they provided an inventory of what he had down his guilty foxhole with him and one of the items was a fun-sized Mars bar. It made me want to cry that he was down there with that. Not even a normal-sized Mars bar. Like the day he went down he thought, "I really like Mars bars but it's such a tiny hole." Where's the fun in that?
It was unerotic enough doing a sex scene with that Saddam sack on my genitals, but then there was the piercing glare of the bright lighting and burly trucker-type men stood around with tool belts, and Kristen Bell in her own version of nudey clothes. She seemed vulnerable in her pink plastic knickers, they looked like flat liquorice panties. Her boobs were covered with those silicone jelly things. In her jelly bra and liquorice knickers she looked like a prostitute for Willy Wonka.
The scene was hard because of unearned proximity, unearned intimacy — you're that close to someone but you haven't been through the typical rituals. Normally before you kiss someone or have it off you've gone through rituals, admittedly in my case at that time rather truncated ones.
"Ooh, are you Russell Brand?"
"Yes I am."
"Can I have my photo done with you?"
"Yes you can. Are you eighteen or above?"
"Let's go to this toilet."
But it is a ritual nonetheless.
A further sex-scene challenge concerned the practical realities of film-making in that each take began with Nick the director calling "Action!" Now if that word was followed by a breezy scene between me and Jonah, where we riffed out some sarcastic put-downs and did daft voices, that's all well and good. But in a sex scene the word "Action!" becomes a starting pistol fired at the beginning of a sex race. It loads it with significance and pressure. BEGIN SEX NOW! Plus I'm representing Great Britain against America, I don't want them thinking we're a nation of crusty old fuddy-duddies, so I have to deliver, or as they'd say "represent motha-f---a". I think I probably overcompensated. When that camera started rolling I threw poor Kristen around the set like ballet in Guantanamo Bay — on the bed, against the wall, in the lavvy — using all my moves, the lizard whip, the flesh dagger and the now banned wet-poltergeist.
"CUT! CUT!" came the panicked cry! "He's gone over! Code red! Code red! This is not a drill. This is not a drill." The first assistant Gary took aim with his stun gun, the tranquilliser dart pierced my neck, I roared, Kristen ran to the shower as I slumped, a flaccid grizzly in flesh-coloured pants. The crew sighed. "And scene."
I'd learned a lot and made some lovely friends, but by the end I was chalking off days.
As the end of production drew near I yearned for Albion and watched the skies for signs. Meredith, my acupuncturist and secular witch, told me that Edgar Allan Poe would write about the shapes in the clouds; we all see shapes in clouds, but Edgar Allan Poe couldn't see the cloud in the shapes, it was all just a signifier in the sky to him. God's Facebook.
When you see life as a poem, then people become signs, and messengers. I needed to be again among women, to be adored. My mate Karl once said that I behaved often like a devoted lover betrothed to a woman with a thousand faces — every night we sleep together, and in the morning I wake hungry for her kiss. Today she is called Lucy, yesterday she was Emily, who knows what her name will be tomorrow. I just hope she's there. Could there ever be a one? A unifying romance that would quell the undimming blaze? I thought not. I yearned for her in Hawaii, because one was not enough.
I got through the shoot without releasing into the convivial set my haunted lunatic shadow self. I kept him in the shack playing one-man football interrupted only by Woody Harrelson and masturbation — thank God those events didn't clash. Nick and Jason were happy with what we'd shot, there was talk from Judd and Nick about me and Jonah possibly doing a film together. That was of course exciting, but the real triumph was that I'd served my sentence and no one had known about my private madness; well, except Woody, and he can't talk.
Excerpted from "Booky Wook 2: This Time It's Personal" by Russell Brand. Copyright © 2010 by Russell Brand. Excerpted by permission of It Books. All rights reserved. No part of this excerpt may be reproduced or reprinted without permission in writing from the publisher.


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Q: Jqgrid subgrid nested levels with out headers I am looking for an example for jqgrid subgrid with nested levels (4-5 levels) and can we display all the nested subgrids with out any headers and also by sharing the top level headers? Also is it possible to load all the subgrid data when the page is loaded...

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