No, I haven't lost my mind! I just decided to go ahead and post this early so those of you who have long since finished the previous class will not have to wait any longer!
Okay gang, let me begin by thanking all who participated in class 26. I am still catching up and making notes based on your input, and will be getting back to each of you if I haven't already.
Now, recently we seemed to be following a logical progression with our studies that could only lead us in a particular direction. I want to pick up where we left off in class 24 and move forward with the next lesson in the natural progression of things.
I'm sure that it will come as a surprise to some of you, but I'm talking about ice cream. Folks, the textural wonders that this subject matter offers for our exploration are infinite, so prepare for a journey to the end of the artistic earth. Some of the full color interpretations of this subject that may come forth in this lesson just boggle the mind. I'm looking forward to this one.
Now, one thing amused me during the lesson on rendering glass. Some of you who did extremely well in that class immediately expressed reservations, trepidation, and indeed panic when it was revealed that the next lesson would be on rendering water. I discussed this with Jay, and it was clear to both of us that you guys already knew how to draw water. You just didn't know that you knew. But now you know. And I know that you know, and Jay knows as well. You know? You know, because as the rearview mirror of history now confirms, you guys went on to do very well in the water class as well. This is all definitive proof of one very important thing that cannot be overstated: the irrefutable superhuman cognitive powers of both myself and JayD.
Or, it could be proof of something that I hope you ALL have come to recognize by now, which is the fact that there is actually very little difference in terms of principle and technique between effective rendering of glass and water. Well I'll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag at the outset this time. As you make the transition from glass to water to metal, you will find that the same phenomenon applies. Any of you who are intimidated by this week's subject should rest assured that if you have successfully completed the lessons on glass and water, then you already know how to succeed in this lesson.
The reason that some of you were intimidated by the water class, and may be intimidated by this class, is that, in keeping with the nature of human psychology, you separate glass, water, and metal out in your minds without regard to their rather obvious similarities. It is because of these preconceived notions that we often hinder our own progress or set ourselves up for failure. I've said before that the psychology of art is as much or MORE important a part of the process as the robotic performance of technical skills. We are often our own worst enemies because we put up unnecessary psychological barriers to our own success, allowing fear to keep us in a rut. This is true in any area of human endeavor, but particularly so in the arts.
Why mention all of this? Simple. One of the things that I want all of you to get out of this program is an understanding of the role of psychology in art, and an understanding of how to use it to your advantage rather than the converse. This is something that we will explore more in the future, but I figured now would be as good a time as any to raise the subject, since it has some value relative to this week's class.
That said, let's examine the specifics of what we're talking about with this week's lesson. In the three dimensional, physical realm, there are dramatic and obvious differences between glass, water, and metal, texturally and otherwise. When thinking of them in the intellectual sense, the idea of convincingly rendering any or all of the three may seem quite daunting, depending on your individual skill level. But the two dimensional world of visual art is the great equalizer, if you will, and it simply boils down to light and shadow when it's all said and done. As elusive as water is in the physical, logical sense, I'm sure that it seems a lot less intimidating a subject when you think of it in terms of nothing more than light and shadow. The same is true of metal, and indeed of anything you choose to render in the two dimensional world.
Okay, this is simple. I want you to draw some metal, ladies and gentlemen!! What metal to draw? That's up to you. The only requirement is that you post not only your work but also the reference material, which means you need to stay clear of copywritten material. I'm sure you can find all kinds of material in the RIL. Or you can follow Judi's lead and do your own still life as a reference.
* As with glass and water, to convincingly render metal it is of paramount importance that you incorporate as broad a value range as possible. High-contrast with extreme lights and extreme darks will heighten the realism.
* Shiny or not, the same applies here as with glass and water: KEEP YOUR HIGHLIGHTS CLEAN!!!!!!!!!!!! Some of you got yourselves into trouble with that issue on previous projects. Clean highlights are extremely important with this particular subject matter, so make every effort to keep your highlights sparkling white! If the size of your project permits, I would even recommend masking them off, for those of you who may have liquid or film frisket handy. If you have no frisket, don't freak out! Just work smart, pay attention, and do everything you can to keep dust, eraser debris, and your SKIN away from your highlights!
WOW! What a pep talk! Well, I thought this was coming after glass and water, and selected a ref from the RIL.
Funnily enough I took a bunch of photos last week of metal things as I was trying to think of some new ideas for drawing! :D Oh Happy Day!!! Also had idea for other metal drawing so I am going out with my camera in a bit to take more ref piccies.
Thank you Troy - this should be a good one.
Cool One Teach :), I guess this is it, we will have to bite the bullet and render metal. In this case, Draw the bullet. :) I have been wanting to do a piece on a bullet. Guess like now I get to.
Thanks for the great lesson, Troy. After sitting out the last one, I will be participating in this one. I did actually start something last night at 3:00 A.M.. I've also dragged myself over (kicking and screaming, I might add) to the perspective lesson, so I'm going to be doing that lesson side by side with this one. I've already posted on the perspective thread that I want people to yell at me if they notice I'm posting other things, while neglecting that lesson.
Ooooooo . . . ice cream bullets!!! Neopolitan!!!
Heh Heh I am gonna be a BRAT,,, Hey Teach I wanna see a demo of metal by you. Like Jay used to do. :evil: Oh are we supposed to post the completed piece or do you want to see our WIP?
Okay, Treach (Troy+Teach) - got my vest on, I'm ready!!
CJ you can use the vest for your metal drawing also, so anytime you're ready!!
Sults, on a serious note, I apologize for the absence of demos. I just didn't have time to do them, but I'd hoped the writeup was in depth enough to offset that. :( Please don't shoot me with your magic bullet!
Hi all! I'm here subscribing to the thread. Won't promise to work on this one since all of my promises lately have been empty ones. :rolleyes: But I'll be back if I have anything to post. Otherwise I'll just read along silently.
Hiya Stacy! Somehow I lost track of the house on the far right of your sig and never saw the finished result. can you link me to that thread when you get a chance?
Troy, put on your sense of humor and come play with us. :evil: I didn't mean for you to take it seriously . . . just teasing. Your instructions are very good and I'm sure we'll do fine . . . but torturing the teacher is a requirement, you know!:D When and if you have time, visual aids would be nice, but critique of the drawings will work, too.
I think a year ago a lot of us (at least me) were clueless. I think we do not always need demo's. Time to take all that JayD has taught us and let's step out of the box.
Well, Judi and some others know that my philosophy on demos is that I would rather encourage students to take my guidance in the form of writing and theory, and find their own way without being given a specific path in the form of demos. That's not to say that demos have no value in my opinion, because they do, but only when necessary. The pen and ink lesson in the future, for instance, will feature a lot of demos, because a lot of you have never even tried that medium. But for this lesson, I find demos frankly unnecessary, because the principles and techniques involved are essentially the same as covered in lessons 23 and 24.
Having said that, though, I DID consider including demos here just for the sake of doing so, and I discussed with Judi the fact that I felt it might benefit the class more to force you guys to kind of sink or swim without the aid of demos. Considering my time issues, I opted for sink or swim. Why? Because you guys are talented enough that you should be able to read my explanations above and put that to work in practice and produce fantastic results.
What did you draw for 10 hours today, Troy?
(inserts Hands On Hips :rolleyes: ) & says to Teach --- Blthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Don't you know I am visual person, I need DEMOS!!!!
Oh you did not answer my other question Teach, Do we post our work completed or a WIP?
sults if you want to post a wip, I'm sure the others could benefit from that. It is not required, though.
Troy, I didn't like my pics of yesterday because I didn't set them up as still lifes. I just set up one and am satisfied with the pic. but if I finish it, are you including rusted metal in this project?
Thanks for the reminder, Dave . . . :wave: . . . I like your still life.
Troy's right - we shouldn't have too much trouble with this one. Hope not, anyway. I'm just glad I already had a ref picked out and a few weeks to think about it!!
My ref in in the RIL (can't post it from work) - by kdkbrown . . . take a look if you're undecided. There are several variations of strawberries in metal.
Hey teach, :) , before I go any further, I was drawing what is engraved on this pitcher but I was thinking that when I shade, it will get lost. Should I use indentation and then go over with graphite?
my God, Mary...your sketch is wonderful as is!!!
Mary that is a beautiful pitcher! Great start.
You have such lovely things. How old it the pitcher and book?
Thank you Billie and Judi. The book and the pitcher are 19th century. I love old books.
Great start Mary! Can't say that I would have taken that one on! :eek: Looking forward to seeing it develop.
I can't wait to see your next wip!
Mary - Lovely arrangement. What medium are you going to use?
This is the start of mine.
Hey Anita that really does look like shiney metal to me. very nice work.
Thank you , Judi, Sults and Anita.
Wow Anita! I thought your spoon was your reference. That is beautiful the way you captured the shine.
Sults, I love you siggy line but personaly, I like it like you had it before adding the cat's eye. Your eyes and the purple looks stunning.
oohhhh Anita....i like this one! i never thought of using silverware. my *silver* is sooo not silver!
Anita, I suspect you're the only person who would notice the handle . . . the rest of us are :eek: :clap: at the perfection everywhere else!! Way to go, lady!!
Anita you commented to me that you were totally disappointed with this. I fail to see why. You're doing very well with this one.
Billie - my *silver* isn't silver either!!!!
Mary - my ref pic???? Yeah right!!!!!!! If you saw that you would see how far out I am!!!
Anita, you have been working. That is looking beautiful!!!
I guess, I'll go do that, I can't seem to solve the pen dilema. I did find a technical pen but I will wait and see what Troy says about the one I have, but I don't think it is the right one.
Anita I've seen the reference pic and you're doing fine. And posting the reference is part of the assignment, so please post away!
Anita - love the spoons, very nice drawings and very shiny!
Mary - great pitcher and well spotted Cathy viz the table. Book is also off - angle/perspective as well as size.
I'm trying to make my mind up as to which bit of metal - I think it's going to be a rather old small copper measuring jug. There again - there's always my glasses!
Anita your not far off at all gf :) Very beautiful reflections you rendered will be punched out as Judi says adding darks but I think you need to blacken that foreground and background too.
Thank you Katherine for your input, I will try to solve that.
Anita, your spoons are stunning.
Somehow I lost track of the house on the far right of your sig and never saw the finished result. can you link me to that thread when you get a chance?
Mary - Wow! What a challenging reference you have chosen!! I'm sure it will be beautiful when you are done.
Every time I see it I think, "mmmmm...donuts!"
Anita, all i see amiss is the highlight and shadow on the spoon handle. it's an easy fix. it looks like you drew the bowl of the spoon and then looked at the handle of the ladle when you drew the spoon handle. i still love this!!! it's a tough subject and you're doing it extremely well!
Masking stuff doesn't like graphite - it wants to scrape off - so the strawberry at bottom was done with graphite dust and Q-Tip. Don't know what I'll do with the base of the metal thing to keep the mask on . . .
That's an awesome reference pic, CJ! Youre off to a good start, just take it slow and watch the relationship between all of your values as you go. You guys who jump all over the paper as you go make me nervous, lol!! I'd have my values so out of whack it would make you fall on the floor laughing. Also you probably already caught this, but in your initial sketch the dark vertical in the pattern of your tablecloth was way off (the angle). Nitpicky, sure, but it'll make a big difference in terms of perspective and framing if it's off.
I'm easily bored?? Actually, I have a problem with that, but it's not what you think. I do the same thing with knitting . . . I have to try to see what the finished product will look like, and once I know how it will turn out, I'm done. Finished. Through. So it really would be better if I finished each area as I go along.
In this case, I realized that I should have done the other-than-metal stuff first, so I could get the reflections right. Thanks for the warning on the cloth stripes - I hadn't seen that.
CJ - I remember this image - was it used in the WDT once? Where did you get the graphite dust? I feel that would be an easier way to do really dark backgrounds and get an even surface. I am so with you on finishing things off once you can see how it will turn out. I'm like that with sewing.
I don't know if this image was used in the WDT, I'm not there very often. It's from the RIL by kdkbrown, who has several variations of this still life plus some other interesting photos.
I have some old drafting pencils with large leads that aren't very useful for drawing - too scratchy - so when I want graphite dust I rub them on sandpaper and pick up the dust with a Q-Tip. We learned it in Lesson 12 - http://www.americanrag.com/Basic%20101/Class12.pdf , but with charcoal dust instead of graphite. It is very smooth.
here (http://www.dickblick.com/zz228/43/) Thanks CJ! I thought you might be able to buy graphite powder - seems logical........... AHA I have found it here (http://www.dickblick.com/zz228/43/) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thought it should be available somewhere.
Thanks for the tip though on using sand paper.
First, the shape of the body of the top spoon is slightly off. Particularly the top edge. Pay CLOSE attention to your reference and fix this. It's easy, just takes patience. Take some time and blunt the end of this spoon SLIGHTLY and work on getting it perfectly rounded as in the ref. You've told me you're a perfectionist, so here's the test! On a drawing like this, I might spend 2 hours drawing the leading edge of the spoon over and over and over again until it was perfect. Are you willing to do that?!! If so, it WILL pay off. You'll also notice in the reference a very subtle hint of very dark value just inside the leading edge of the tip of the spoon, as the inside of the spoon turns away from the light. You left that out in your drawing and it flattens out the tip of the spoon and makes it appear flush with the surface it's sitting on. Take some time on correcting this, and then address the slots in the spoon. Remember that the outermost edges (the edges that run parallel to the edge of the spoon) of those slots should be perfectly shaped and perfectly aligned so that if you drew one continuous line all the way around them, it would form a perfectly symmetrical oval in the bottom of the spoon (I know this sounds confusing as all hell, but hopefully you understand what I'm trying to say!!). Some of your shapes are off a bit there, and it is affecting the illusion of proper depth in your spoon. You also need to deepen a lot of your values in the spoon and pay very close attention to the reference. The only real area of VERY light value of any significance is the area that washes over the 3 slots closest to the bottom of the spoon as the viewer sees it. That means the entire top half of your spoon, even the lighter values, needs to be several shades darker.
Watch little things as well, like the lightplay along the edge of your spoon. You see bright highlight there, but if you look closely at the reference, it is not simply one perfect white line of uniform thickness all the way around the edge, "outlining" it. There ARE value changes even within that highlight.
Also, since you haven't fully developed your background, this is a non-issue, but I'll throw this out there for you to keep in mind when you get further along with this. Your cast shadows from the spoons should GRADUALLY, SLIGHTLY get lighter in value as the distance increases between the spoon surface and the surface upon which the shadow is cast. Take the spoon handle for example - the point at which the handle meets with the "body" of the spoon is the area where the spoon is furthest from the table it is sitting on. The cast shadow from this part of the spoon should be lighter than, say, the END of the handle where there is direct contact between the spoon and the table.
Mary - its not that bad!!! They are all things I knew. And actually quite minor in correction. It will all go to making us better at observation before we put pencil to paper.
Troy - thank you for taking the time to be so detailed. I dread to think what you will say about the second spoon!!!!!!!!!!!
Anita I applaud you gf, I am so glad you took Troys observation that way. I have to tell you, I decided to take C&C that way from others on my current work too.
Infact, RR pmd me a very long detailed C&C the other day on my sp, and since I have been very optimistic of it, I am really liking fixing my sp. It is not a chore to do but I am actually enjoying it.
Mary, it does sound like alot of work but if you break down each C&C to just babysteps it is easier to handle. I know that is the way it is working for me.
I was looking at my piece as a whole, when I should of been looking at it as pieces.
Oh, Because I am working on my sp and still want to get that bullet done, I am not going to do any babystep work in perspective at all, that Jay is just darn right evil. ooooooooh no uh uh no way, am I not trying that WDT this week.
Anita and Sults, I agree with you I was just trying to give Troy a bad time, :evil: . In fact I am amazed at your professionalism and careful breakdown, Troy.
Hope I picked up all the points Troy came up with. It does look a little better to me - maybe.......a little..........what do you think?????????
lol, Mary, for the record, Anita asked me privately to nitpick the hell out of her work like I would my own. And really I should do that for all of you guys anyway, because it would do you a disservice NOT to. But please don't take it personally.
I am your hero because I share with you my words of wisdom. But you know that. Silly rabbit.
Ahhhh, okay, I see what you mean about the design. It's proportionately larger in your drawing than real life. Who cares? It looks good, and the perspective is correct. Don't worry about that.
Mary - I think there may be a tiny weeny problem with this - only worth dealing with if you want to.
Because your pitcher has a 'belly' and you're looking at the design on the pitcher at a slight angle the midpoint line of thje motif, which splits it in half into two mirror images would not be straight (ie not a plumbline straight), it would be very slightly curved - and thus the motif ought to accommodate this very slight curve. Put another way, if your motif as currently drawn was on a totally vertical surface it would be fine, the issue only arises because the pitcher has a curved profile.
I think Katherine hit on it. It's the curve. It doesn't look larger than the ref - if you look closely at the design that's 'hidden' it pretty much goes almost top to bottom. It's a beautiful design!!
Thank you Troy, Katherine and CJ. Troy I see what I did with the elipse and I will try to squeeze in the flower and the book with out it looking squeezed in. I lost the proportion of the table because I lengthened the pitcher a tad to fit the design. I got carried away and didn't check the proportion.
CJ youre right re the design, I didn't pay attention to the extension of the design in the ref at the bottom. Katherine raises a good point, but I think a lot of that can be remedied in the shading process.
Anita, your spoons are amazing! the second one is a real mindblower! great job!!
Update - about 45 minutes more. I erased the cloth lines and will redo after I finish getting the strawberry back in proportion. Tonight I worked on the leaves of the bottom strawberry and the lowest reflections on the gravy boat. Not sure where I'm going with the lowest reflection - right now it looks too dark, but I won't change it just yet. Maybe it just needs some tonal variations.
Time to get coffee and clothes ready for tomorrow morning.
CJ your coffee is going to be cold by morning.
I'll set an extra cup out for you . . .
Went back and looked and I only have two things to comment on. I think the reflection in the upper part of the container has the reflection of the lower stand section amiss-it is differently shaped and sized. I noticed on your draft that the plaid pattern is more straight but angled in the ref. It is too early (I think) to comment on more-coming along wonderfully!
I am so-o-o glad you are working!
I want to know where Cathie gets her emoticons from!
CJ, that is looking good! Your strawberry is beginning to look tempting.
Katherine - you can hijack emoticons by right clicking and saving!
Judi, the reflection of the bottom part on the upper part is distorted because of the rounded shape of the gravy boat, so I've had an awful time trying to get it shaped right. Ignore the plaid pattern for now - I'm just getting to that.
Katherine, I've been saving little graphics and animations for years. The smileys are from Smiley Central.
Where's my freaking coffee, CJ???????
There you go Troy - and enough for anyone else who needs it!
Troy, I forgot to tell you, I don't get the coffee in the morning, my DH does . . . because last time I did it I put sugar in my coffee instead of his . . . and I hate sweetened coffee!!:eek: I just can't be trusted with things like that so early in the morning!!
Now . . . Where's my freakin' critique???
I guess I need a better explanation of the 'reflection thing.' I thought I had pretty well copied the reflection of the bottom part from the photo and it was distorted because of the roundness of the top part. Am I missing something?
Hi CJ - I think they mean that the reflection in the bottom of the bowl of the sauce boat is deeper in your version than in the photo. In the photo it is quite narrow. And the line is not curving up as in your version where the bowl of the sauce boat meets the stand. At least that's what I can see. Hope that is of some help!
everyone is doing so well with this class!! everyone that's posted their progress anyway. i'm not telling what i'm doing.:evil: it's not silverware or sterling either.
Oh Billie we want to see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Update on mine. Found it amusing to realise the reflection in the bottom spoon is me and the dining room and a picture on the wall that I painted!!!
Hey, that looks like me in Hawaii!
Ditto, ditto, ditto . . . beautiful reflections Anita!!
Oh, Dave . . . no wonder I'm having trouble with this thing, it's a BOAT! Maybe I should just put a life jacket on it!!!
CJ - Didn't mean to be vague. I thought Judi had explained her thoughts in detail about the reflection so I didn't want to be redundant. Anita seems to have cleared it up though:) And please - NO LIFE JACKET on the gravy boat.
Billie I hope you aren't doing a metal dog!
Cathie - I've been right-clicking and my emoticon file is now significantly enhanced - for which many thanks. Have you seen.......?
Troy - what's the sig construction problem?
Katherine - main prob with my banner is that one of the drawings was based on one of the recent RIL photos with copyright issues.
NO LIFE JACKET on the gravy boat.
Okay, I'll paint it blue. :D Matte blue.
Dave - You shouldn't worship spoons you know!
Billie - you are too kind!!!
CJ - Thank you! I liked the idea of a life jacket - nothing like a bit of humour in art!
Troy - I take it it's ok with you then????????
I am slow this week, doing other things! I had a plan to do a trumpet or tuba, but can't find a photo in the reference library and don't have one of my own. I did that strawberry and bowl that CJ has for a WDT, may have to slip it in here by accident if I don't get moving.
CJ, I am so sorry gf, I just saw your wip i& it is looking so great.
Anita, wow, you have the look of beautiful silverware there.
Anita, your spoons are gorgeous! I've never seen such shiny spoons! And you are so fast. I haven't even found anything to draw yet. Like Connie's idea, I thought of a trombone, because both my sons played that instrument in school, but I couldn't find a good photo, and I'm too lazy to climb up into the attic to get the real one down.
Dave, I too am curious as to why you wore the coconuts with the skirt?!?
Your 'splainin' was fine, Judi - it was my understandin' that was off!!
I received e-mails today from two different ladies who are in the embroidery and pattern business (I checked their web sites to be sure they were legit). Both told me that one of the paintings from my web site was not only being used in an eBay seller's listings, but there was a direct link to it so they were using my bandwidth to display it!
One of them suggested that I replace the image with one that said this person was pirating copyrighted work, but I wasn't able to do that, so I changed the message beside the image in my website to say that it was being used illegally by an eBay seller.
The worst part of this is that I wasn't able to report exactly what was wrong to eBay! I was able to send them an e-mail choosing their subjects and entering the problem item number, but they don't allow explanations - just the item number and a basic reason for reporting it. And I couldn't find a phone number! You could see the smoke coming out of my ears by the time I got through searching their site for a way to report exactly what was wrong!
I hate eBay!!!!! And if they don't do something about this, you can bet there's a number for their headquarters somewhere!!!
Okay - rant over. Thank you for listening.
Anita your work is abstolutely magnificent. When I saw the reflection on your spoon yesterday, I thought it was very interesting and tried to make it out. The painting is very clear. You cannot say you don't like this.
Wow the class is getting big, I hope I didn't forget anyone.
Sults, I hope to work on mine tomorrow after finisheing JayD's house.
CJ, your's is looking good and Billie I'm excited about your surprise!
CJ - That is just awful!!!! I wonder sometimes at people's total lack of any sort of integrity or conscience!
And I'll get back on topic . . . sorry to hijack the thread, but if this happened to me, it could happen to any of us!
CJ I had that same thing happen to me about five times over the course of a year and ebay didn't do jack. I ended taking my images down out of frustration.
CJ, I hadn't understood what you had asked about if I had read. This is too bad, you just can't trust anyone. Is the link you showed put up on the page at ebay?
Did you follow the link and see what I did? I didn't touch the seller's listing, just my artwork!!! So even if eBay doesn't do something, I'm betting that image will be gone from the listing real soon!
Anita and I were just pm'ing that unfortunately it's probably someone on WC, because the photo of the butterfly above my painting in the listing is from our RIL. Makes me wonder what's in the designs they're selling, but I'm not willing to pay the postage from England to see it.
Well my issue didn't have anything to do with artwork. I collect extremely rare and extremely expensive vinyl records. I used to have a site with a bunch of images of those records posted. Ripoff artists would sell worthless bootleg copies of the records for hundreds or thousands of dollars, using MY images of the legit records for their auctions. It didn't really affect me directlyl, but I took the images down becz I didn't want to help those scumbags rip people off. I went through a bunch of stuff with ebay over it, including telephone contact. Their standard thing is to end the auction and then sweep it under the rug.
That butterfly is not currently in the 20 pages of butterfly images in the RIL (I've just checked) - and I recognise it also. I think it might just possibly be in that thread of 1500 photos which people have been perusing recently (and I'm not going through that again). CJ - I think it might be worth sending a PM to Kerri advising her about what has happened to you, especially if both images came from WC.
Not even the fabled Ladle of the Lake?
I think I have finished this. I've done the background with the light source as it was in the photo.
I'm really enjoying this class so I have decided to do another drawing. But a little tired of shiny metal :D so I am going to have a go at this - new pic from the ref lib - sorry can't remember who by.
That's a beautiful drawing. I can't wait to see how you handle worn and rusty metal. Maybe I should have a go at some of that...we've got a good deal more metal like that than we do shiny silver!
OMG CJ, that is terrible and I am glad you were able to do some Detective work on your own but so sorry you had to be the one to do it.
Wow, Anita those spoons are just beautiful!!!! You must frame this and hang it in the dining room. I do love this how big is it? You can make a nice wall arrangement with this ontop of a shelf, along with the actual spoons in one of the box picture window like thingys & a small vase with a flower in it.
I also love your next ref pic, I love old trucks and things. In class 1 there was a student who turned in a wonderful rendering of a truck. Wonder what happened to her, she did that pca so well.
"THE ABOVE ILLUSTRATIONS ARE PURELY FOR ILLUSTRATION AND ARE NOT CONTAINED WITHIN THIS COLLECTION"
Anita, those spoons are absolutely fabulous!! Give yourself a big pat on the back. Can't wait to see what you can do with rusty metal!
Dave you are too funny!!
NO KIDDING!!!! stop that Anita!!!:evil: I'm just giving you a hard time.:wink2: you have a bad case of metal fever now, i think!!!! LOVE the spoons!!! this is rendering metal at it's finest!!!
CJ-I understand your frustration w/ ebay. Maggie 'sold' her car there and the person never showed. We called but we only got to talk to someone that spoke English once. The rest of the time is was the foreign Grandmother "No speak English". Maggie sold her car then thru a local paper taking a $500 loss from what she was to get on E-bay. Is e-bay doing anything---but giving you a hard time trying to get your message thru. I thought winning a bid was a legal contract-yeah right!
Anita, now I really don't know if your posting your drawn spoons or your reference. Your rendering on the shine is superb and I love your new reference.
Great job A! And the new reference is an excellent choice.
Dave and others - hate to shatter any illusions here, but this is not a "recent" development with eBay. It's been a problem for years, and will continue to be one. Ultimately their liability is limited in the legal sense, so the sad truth is that they don't really care. As long as the overwhelming majority of transactions on eBay are legit (and they are), they aren't going to do a thing about the small percentage of crooks infesting their site.
I'm afraid you're right, Troy. But in the case of pirating artwork, my solution worked very well. The seller removed my artwork immediately and sent me an e-mail to say it had been removed - no aplogy, though! So in this case I didn't have to rely on eBay. I've received 2 more e-mails from people who say they've been trying for weeks to get eBay to ban this person, but it hasn't worked so far.
I'm glad we have another week to finish our metal, because that's probably what it will take for me. I have to work tonight and tomorrow and we'll be out of town Sunday . . . but after Monday I'll have some free evenings!
[QUOTE=present]I think I have finished this. I've done the background with the light source as it was in the photo.
I'm speechless, Anita! I'm awarding you my merit point for today.
Dave - I wish it was silver - just my best stainless steel!
Billie - Metal fever has taken a grip!!!!
Judi - thank you for the clappies!
Mary - Muchas Gracias, amiga!
Michele - I am really touched that you would give me a merit point!
Made a dent in the car today (not literally!!!) The grill has given me a headache - I must remember to look at the details of pictures before I pick them to do!
And as to the dent you made in that car . . .
CJ that is an awesome AWESOME!
lol CJ that is too wild.
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I elect Anita as a subbie for class 27 everyone in favor say AYE!!!
pssst Anita that means when Troy has class 29 and up going on you are to sub all who enter this class. :) Your great at metal gf.
Aye to the Queen of metals!
Mary, Awe :( -what paper did you use?
Judi, since I don't like house drawing very much I used a sketch pad that I have that says Acadèmie drawing pad. It is good for graphite but not for charcoal and I have a pad for charcoal but forgot about it until I was half done. Anyway, I posted it, but I still don't think it is finished, nevertheless I want to get on with my pitcher.
Sults, thank you! It is not very visible but I wanted some red to match with your great design in my banner.
I was discussing Anita's new picture with her privately and suggested that the class would be interested in hearing her thoughts on how she is approaching this one, with particular emphasis on the wood and the grille. Several people have already commented on the grille, and the wood is outstanding on this.
I would also encourage anyone who feels comfortable doing so to offer some insight on what you're doing with your project along with posting your progress pics. We can all learn from that info. Thanks!
I'm just popping in to comment on your spoons, Anita. They are fabulous! The truck is looking great too. I'm plugging away on a couple of different things and hopefully I will have something that is somewhat post-worthy by this weekend.
Dave - hope you don't have a http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Sep-2005/58769-44366-draggingmorning.jpg this morning!!!
Billie - not really sure why I am enjoying metal so much - must be something deeply psychological.
Sults - Thank you and really I am very flattered that you should suggest I be a subbie. As a newbie to the class (relatively compared to you guys) its a real honour.
Mary - I think you deserve an award for being adventurous with charcoal - one of these days I might try it :eek: but my memories are all of getting very dirty and the paper turning into a smudge nightmare. And you did a great job on that house!
Troy - thank you for asking me to do a demo on my wood and grillwork. I will put that together later when it is light (still pitch dark here) and better for photographing WIP pictures.
Anne - thank you for your kind comments.
Fortunately it will not interfere with the drawing or WC because I will do it from my PC, but I don't know anything about bull breeding. :crying: I will learn.
Ok - wood and metal detail.
1.For the wood I first drew guidelines for the planks of wood. Then very lightly shaded with a 5H pencil just to slightly tone the paper.
2. Using a 8B pencil put in the shadow lines under the planks. Then using a 2B pencil draw in the knots.
3. Using a 6B pencil put in the lighter shadow line below the dark shadow of the planks and variations in the wood tone.
4. Finally using a 2B mechanical pencil I drew horizontal lines for the wood grain. No blending here because I wanted to keep some patches of light and some darker patches and keep the lines in the wood visible.
1. Draw guidelines for the mesh - it is very evenly spaced. I measured the distances between my guidelines to make sure it was even.
3. Lightly shade entire area with 6B pencil, not being overly careful about covering entire area as bits of the metal will pick up light. Using same pencil draw along the guidelines to give horizontal shadows.
4. This is how the grill looks on the truck.
Both for the wood and the grill it was surprisingly easy. Hope this all made some sense.
Thanks Anita...that's very interesting. You get my mentor point for the day!
Anita - absolutely fabulous. The image for Dave, the spoons, the truck and most of all the demo. Thanks for that.
This is probably not what you expected. It is not a Harley Davidson, the top speed is 6 mph. But I can no longer drive and want to get further than I can walk for painting and sketching. This picture was taken about a month ago, while the machine was still new. Now it has mud, grass, and a dent or two from where I was stuck in a ditch. A young man stopped and pushed me out. One of the joys of living in the country.
Like Mary, I started without planning and the paper isn't at all suitable for charcoal, but it seemed the right thing for all that dark. And I always forget how much I dislike the mess. And the charcoal pencil would not sharpen, so the edges are much less defined than I would like. And the plastic I put over the scanner is dirty. But here it is anyway.
Anita, thank you so much for the demo!!! looks easy enough. you must be a patient woman! the end result was certainly well worth the trouble!!! you go girl!!!
Connie, this is excellent! your perspective on this great! maybe motorbikes are YOUR forte!!!
Connie, your motorbike is a great segue into my subject. i'm working on chrome handle grips for a Harley. funny you should mention that bike! this is what you should get to beef up your own 'ride'! i JUST did the darkest lines last night. i used my new Micron pen...no charcoal on this project. using the ink on this was nerve racking! it's so PERMANENT!! i'll finish it with pencil.
Anita, your demo makes it look so easy! I don't think I would have the patience to complete that grill though. The piece is looking great so far.
Connie Hot Wheels!! :wave: You always suprise me with your project subjects-always wonderful. :clap: I hope you didn't get hurt at all when you were in the ditch did you? You must have been speeding! :wink2: I am so glad you had help!
Connie and Billie - good job, and you certainly get points for originality!;) Looking forward to updates. Billie is yours something you're trying to market or just playing around?
WOW! You guys are really zooming along!
Connie - great zippy chair! Your talent is really blossoming.
Anita - thanks for the demo. This is what visual aids do for me - when I looked at your original drawing, I thought I could never do a grille like that, then when I see the demo it's a whole different thing. I could do that!!
Billie - :clap: Fantastic chrome!!!
I'm working today, so no update unless I finish early . . .
I just remembered that part of the assignment was to post the original photo that we used as reference.
no Troy, i'm not marketing these. just playing around.
Here's my start of a metal drawing. The reference is from the RIL, courtesey of NKBrown. Comments please!
Connie: great job on the chair. Hope getting stuck in the ditch wasn't too scary! My mum once did that in her car when I was a kid. We were driving to Wales for a vacation. Luckily, a group of big Welsh rugby players was there, and they lifted the car out with us still in it!
Just realized I'm running short of time to get this lesson done. We'll be out of town tomorrow, and going to Vancouver next weekend - leaving Thurs. night, not back until Mon. night or Tues.
Dave - you've been a busy guy this weekend. First a squirrel, now this. Looks like you have a good start. I have but one suggestion...I think the light areas on the right side and the one just to the left of center could be a tad darker.
I actually started working on my drawing today. Forgot how incredibly slow I was when using graphite. :( Put in 2 and a half hours and have barely anything to show for it. Plus I realized just how many reflections there are in my reference. I'm finding it a little overwhelming. I hope to put more time in tomorrow and then post tomorrow night.
Grrrrrr . . . this may be the last update you'll see on this one. I decided to remove the masking and it didn't want to come off. Wouldn't peel, wouldn't scrape, wouldn't erase - only the biggest chunks came off leaving sticky, blue residue on the paper. And, of course, the graphite smeared in the process.
Think I'll start something else and let this sit until I decide if I want to continue on it.
CJ what paper and type of masking fluid are you using?
Not to worry . . . I'll just do something else for now. Still have this evening and 3 nights next week to work on it.
CJ the reason I asked about the masking fluid is that I've never had a problem with it on stonehenge personally. I use incredible white mask. I don't know if I've just been lucky (I've actually only used fluid on stonehenge a few times) or if it is the brand of fluid that makes the difference, but it hasn't been a problem for me.
Thanks, Troy. I use Masquepen and it's normally terrific stuff. It has a metal pin stopper and would have been fine if I hadn't let it fall over and stay that way for months - the pin got stuck and I made the pen-type opening too big when I unstuck the pin, so it was allowed to get too much air - made it sticky, I guess.
Hi everyone! :wave: Oh, I think I'm lagging behind.
Anita congrats on you wonderful demo and again your update on the car.
Dave, yours is looking good, that is nice choice.
CJ, it is coming along!
Dave - thank you! Doubly! This is a super jug/ewer (wouldn't mind having that myself!) - lovely and SHINY! And I love your Rocky!
Connie - your speed machine is great. Is it fun to ride? I bet you are a regular speed demon on that!
CJ - I didn't even know you could use a masking fluid for drawing. I've only come across it for watercolours before.
Mary - your put/jug is super. You've caught that soft look of pewter really well.
Thank you everyone for your comments on my demo!
Wow Anita, you have really achieved realism in everything you are doing.
Troy, there is something about that book that is giving me trouble. I pm'd you about it, but there is no hurry, I can keep working on the top.
Connie, bikes are so hard to render and you did a great job on that scooter. :) Now that is economical way to the beat the gas crunch.
CJ, it is looking like a start of metal.
Mary, is that pewter? I like how you are shading it.
Anita, its looking great and loved the demo, your a natural gf.
Hiyas Bon we miss ya.
CJ! :wave: Starting over???? Love the new ref and dwg -but why did you decide not to finish the other? I think one problem would be the ellipses on the can in the upper left are opposite from what you have there in your dwg.
CJ - I have this picture saved to play with at a future date. Looking forward to seeing what you do with this.
Judi, you're right about the elipses - I didn't notice that. Thanks. I may finish the other one sometime just for the practice, but the paper is ruined where the masque was, and I don't feel like starting that one over.
Since there are so many adjustments I may redraw it on better paper. The drawing paper I started on has too much texture.
Since I'm apparently the only artist in America who doesn't have or know how to use photoshop, I planned to do my primitive best and print out your latest update, then draw my corrected lines right on top of yours so that you could see the difference between the two, and how close you are.
Sooooooo... rather than do nothing and wait to get you to enhance those lines for me like you did before, I decided to play with this anyway. I grabbed a pencil and the printout, and stepped outside to smoke a cigarette. Without looking at the reference, I simply drew the table and book while I smoked a cigarette, and positioned them in a way that looked good to me. When I came back in, I immediately noticed that I put the book at more of a strong diagonal in the composition, but personally I think it looks better that way. You may or may not agree, but it's worth considering. The ellipse of the table is consistent with what yours should be, and yours IS very close.
Oh Troy thank you so much, YOU ARE A GENIUS! Your primitive best is a lot easier to understand than anything else. I have printed it. I was just about to throw the book out. I'll do that line drawing and then post a close up of the shading on the body of the pitcher this afternoon. I'm a little worried about that. :( .
Hi guys! :wave: BTW, I didn't notice but I don't know if we have rated this thread, I just did!
CJ, I just had to tell you that when I looked for a reference for that drawing I did on the main thread, I had chosen the milk cans first. It's a great choice!
Ohhhh-I think we all got out of the habit of rating the thread! Thanks for the reminder Mary!
yup and also the one before this was not rated either.
Mary I'm glad you got something out of the above. I'll look for your next update! Judi check pms, I sent you something you need to save.
Who says you don't get rated?????????????????????????? Aren't 5 stars enough for you :evil: ?
I think they tell you your mentor/merit points in an email.
I last got a WC newsletter last November - does anyone know why they have stopped?
and Troy-they (merit/mentor points) were reported there- my total was zero-LOL.
And the five stars are for YOUR thread!
Boy, it's been a busy 24 hours since I was here last!
Anita is almost done her second metal drawing! And it's looking great, by the way. :clap: Poor CJ lost a great start to bad masking. :crying: But is already making a come back with milk cans. :D And Mary is moving on that fabulous pitcher. Way to go Mary!
I have actually been drawing as I promised myself I would have something to post before weekend's end. I took the reference myself and think I should call this "Items I Never Use". Of course there are many more items in my kitchen that qualify in that catagory. :D Once I started drawing I felt that I had been a little overambitious, but oh well.
Here is my reference photo both in color and grayscale.
And my drawing along with a close-up of the area I am currently working on.
As always please C&C away.
Stacy - your sig tells me that your sense of lights and darks is just fine. Don't let this overwhelm you, just take it one section/step at a time and I'm sure you will do fine.
I needed that encouragement today and it really helped. I started the day by sitting down and writing my value "code" on my reference (1 for lightest, 10 for darkest). Now I can draw without worrying about remembering what is what.
The drawing is done on a Bienfang 55lb. drawing pad using HB, 2B and 4B pencils. As you can see, I did use a grid to get the outlines in. Total drawing size is 6" by 8". So far I have put in about 4 hours of drawing time.
Stacy, I love your reference photo and it looks great so far!
Looking good Stacy. I'm not sure what that cookie cutter is made of and what kind of texture it has, but I think what you're doing will actually work to your benefit in the long run. Your pencil strokes are still showing on the cutter, making it look more like brushed metal rather than smooth, ultra-shiny metal. But this is a good thing, because it will contrast very nicely against the smooth, ultra-shiny bowl!:) Keep up the good work! Oh, if you are going to render the wood grain, you need to be careful not to establish some weird, conflicting texture in your cast shadows. Keep your underlying line direction consistent with wood.
Stacy, love you reference! is that your own photo? how clever!!! you're doing great w/it, too!!
Anne, i really like the green paper!!! it makes this work look old fashioned. very cool effect!! ask Troy(The 101 Man) if you could use white charcoal or white conte for your highlights. it might be TOO much contrast but man..would it make this still life pop!
Thanks for the input Troy. I haven't done any blending yet. Wasn't sure whether to blend on the star or not. It is painted metal so it is a smooth surface but is only highly reflective where the paint has worn off. I like the idea of leaving it "textured" in contrast to the smooth bowl.
Anne, your strawberries and boat are looking good. I agree with Troy that if you nail the values it probably won't make much difference what color the paper is. If you feel the paper is more of a mid-tone, could you add some white charcoal only to the brightest highlights? I'm not sure that is a good idea or not. But I know others do it when working on toned paper with charcoal.
well, after a few false starts ie. two handle grips and a motorcycle which i'll finish another time for my own enjoyment i landed this ref from the WC Library. the handle grips i couldn't continue w/ for class. there may have been a copyright issue and didn't want to risk that! here's where i'm at w/it right now. also here's the ref.
Stacy, looking good, nice to see a full class here!
Anne, I love your style in this drawing, I can't wait to see it finished.
The whole pitcher needs more varied mids in it, and the darks that you've already established need to be quite a bit darker. Also remember that this is an engraved design, so there should be some very fine, very DARK lines in areas of the design that are not being hit by the light. That's an area where I'd recommend paying close attention to the reference rather than trying to wing it on your own. That's a complicated design, so it's easier to just go by the ref. Also remember that certain areas of the design that have light hitting at a perpendicular angle should have an edge of reflected light adjacent to the indention.
Troy, I forgot to ask you a question. When I push the darks can I blend or should I try no to?
Mary, i can't believe the progress you've made on your pitcher!!! this is turning out to be beautiful!!! you've done amazing work on the engraving! i'm in awe of this! i'm thinking pewter and duller metals are trickier than shiny metals to render. all that blending...WOW! i'm not much of a blender(?) you know what i mean! anyway, GOOD JOB, Mary!!!
Stacy - You have made an outstanding start on the bowl and cookie cutter - well done!
Anne - I like the choice of paper - nothing to say you can't use white pastel/conte to do the highlights is there?
Billie - super car - way nicer than my rusty old truck! That chrome is looking seriously shiny. I think you have a thing about chrome!
Mary - WOW - you went crazy today! Well done - I love this pewter pot - I want it!


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I've made it six miles out of LAKE Park and the west wind has decided I should lash of the World to a sign post and take a break. It's a good thing I don't get freaked out by snakes, one just slithered by. I can see the water tower in Hawley and have all day to get the two or three miles into town. Like good concerned citizens I have been reported to the state and county police who just welcomed me to "the wind tunnel" and for those of you who are concerned the World may blow into the road and cause you to wreck I say stay on your side of the line! Have a very nice rest of the day.
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Britain's music charts are changing their rules to count paid song streams for much more than free ones, weeks after Billboard did the same in the U.S.
In two of the biggest music markets in the world, getting a Number One record is not merely about the quantity of plays and sales now – but the quality of the play. Earlier this year, Billboard, which publishes the definitive album and song charts for the U.S. music industry, revamped its chart formulas, giving more weight to paid streams than free ones. Now, the UK's Official Charts Company says it is following suit.
Starting Friday, UK charts will count streams from premium subscribers (e.g. those on Apple Music or Spotify's paid tier) six times more than streams from users on an ad-supported platform (e.g. Spotify's free tier).
The Official Charts Company said supporting paid streaming over free streaming will benefit the music industry. The latter makes significantly less money for artists and songwriters than the former – and because premium subscribers supposedly "tend to access new music quicker," trending songs will enter the charts a little higher than before.
Under the current system, it takes 150 streams of a song to count as the equivalent of a traditional, old-school sale. Under the new one, that number is 100 for paid streams and 600 for free streams. That discrepancy is much higher than what it is under Billboard's changes in the U.S., which gives free streams two-thirds the weight of paid streams.
Critics worry that disfavoring free streams will lower representation of younger listeners, but the UK's chart organization says it hasn't seen a major upheaval in the tests it ran before announcing the changes. "It's not like suddenly there will be loads of Led Zeppelin and Rolling Stones in the chart," Martin Talbot, chief executive of the Official Charts Company, said to the Guardian.
Other changes to the UK's charts methodology include a measure that safeguards against "spamming" artists to Number One – once a user has played a song 10 times in 24 hours, streams after that are not counted – and the inclusion of music videos in its formula, which historically eschewed video streams and downloads until now.
But all of this reorganization stands against the fact that music charts, in the age of digital streaming, have still become both game-able and somewhat arbitrary. Last year, fans of pop star Harry Styles banded together to boost Styles' chart position by setting up VPNs to fake the location of their streams. And putting streams alongside sales into one formula makes for a capricious comparison: While the UK now counts 100 to 600 song streams as one sale, Nielsen, which provides the data for Billboard's charts, counts several thousand streams as one sale, and there's no global entity to reconcile both sets of numbers into one coherent ranking.
That means determining the artist or song that is "Number One" at any given time depends on how and where people are listening.
Some companies, like YouTube, disagree with Billboard's take on free streams. In May, YouTube debuted its own trending-music chart. "Billboard is essentially saying the only music fans that count are music fans that have credit cards and are paying for subscriptions," YouTube head of label relations Stephen Bryan told Rolling Stone.
But the company, catering to both industry demands and the new chart configuration, also recently launched YouTube Music – a paid subscription service of its own.


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News – More Sequels for 2013 Have Been Announced
Daniel Rester March 25, 2012
By Dominic La-Viola
Announced yesterday, The Hangover Part 3 and 300: Battle of Artemisia will get release dates, along with many other sequels, in 2013. Todd Philips is coming back to direct The Hangover Part 3, but Zach Snyder will not be returning for Battle of Artemisia. Noam Murro is taking over for Snyder, and sources didn't say why Snyder is not going to be returning.
In surprising news, instead of changing the release date for The Hangover Part 3, Warner Bros. will be releasing the sequel the same month as Universal is releasing The Fast And Furious 6, which is releasing in May, 2013. Also coming due to release in May, 2013 is Star Trek 2 and Man of Steel— so I have to say we are getting a lot of blockbuster hits early on. I for one would think that the films would be released during the summer from June- August, but again that could be a good marketing plan. More film sequels to be released in 2013 are Grown Ups 2, Red 2, and The Smurfs 2.
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DEATH: GRACE ASHTON JONES SMITH
SHARE DEATH: GRACE ASHTON JONES SMITH
Grace Ashton Jones Smith has "gone home" after a full like of 94 years. She died, fittingly it seemed to us, on Mother's Day, May 8, 1994 in Bountiful, Utah.
pShe was born on October 16, 1899 at Winn Farm near Enoch and Cedar City, Utah, the 23rd child of her father John Lee Jones and the ninth child of her mother, Betty Marsden Walker. She married Stanley Abner Smith on January 14, 1919 in the Temple at St. George, Utah. They made their home in Enoch but moved to Bountiful, Utah in 1956.
She served in many church positions and faithfully supported her husband in his 35 continuous years in church leadership positions, including 11 years as bishop; she was a most loving, compassionate mother; she worked, it seemed, tirelessly during depression days, raising chickens, milking cows, churning butter to help support her family, but her most noticeable gifts was music. Here she seemed to have a desire, even a need, to impart to others her talents and love. Because of her beautiful voice and natural gift at the piano, she was in constant demand for funerals, in church functions and especially for the famous old-time dances at Enoch.
In 1964, Stan and Grace accepted a call to serve as missionaries in England, and upon returning, in 1966, another call for 10 years as workers in the Salt Lake Temple.
Preceded her in death by all of her brothers and sisters, her husband and her third son, Drex LaNar.
She is survived by three sons and two daughters: Ashton Lee (Mathel), Gordon Albert (Delores), Stanley Udell (Avis), Anna LaRue Turner (Gerry), all living in Bountiful, Utah, and Grace Marie Dennis (Ronald), living in Provo, Utah. Besides her five living, her posterity now is extended to 30 grandchildren, 88 great-grandchildren and six great-great grandchildren.
Funeral services will be held 12 noon on Thursday, May 12, 1994 at the Bountiful 2nd Ward Chapel, 650 So. 200 East, where friends may call one hour prior to the service. A service will also be held at 12:30 p.m. on Friday, May 13, 1994 at the Enoch Wards building, Enoch, Utah. Friends may call one half hour before this service. Interment at Cedar City Cemetery. Funeral directors: Russon Bros. Bountiful Mortuary.
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By FizX on October 6, 2015@fizx
Marvel announced that Black Widow will get her own series in early 2016! New team is comprised of all star talent Mark Waid and Chris Samnee, the team also responsible for the recent and well-received run on Daredevil.
Widow series will place her against the organization she has served for so long: S.H.I.E.L.D.
Here is the official synopsis.
Natasha has spent years gathering secrets. Knowledge and intel on friends and enemies alike. But when some of those dark secrets begin mysteriously going public, no one is safe. Now, Natasha has become the one thing she never thought she'd be – S.H.I.E.L.D.'S MOST WANTED! Betrayed by her former accomplices, with friend and foe alike nipping at her heels, all bets are off. With a lifetime of training and ingenuity at her disposal, she's out for answers, and she's going to get them any way she can.
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Prognostic significance of combined pretreatment body mass index (BMI) and BMI loss in patients with esophageal cancer
Authors Gu WS, Fang WZ, Liu CY, Pan KY, Ding R, Li XH, Duan CH
Accepted for publication 28 February 2019
Published 10 April 2019 Volume 2019:11 Pages 3029—3041
DOI https://doi.org/10.2147/CMAR.S197820
Checked for plagiarism Yes
Peer reviewers approved by Ms Justinn Cochran
Editor who approved publication: Dr Beicheng Sun
Wen-Shen Gu,1,2,* Wei-Zhen Fang,1,2,* Chun-Yue Liu,1,2 Kun-Yi Pan,1,2 Rui Ding,1,2 Xiao-Hui Li,3 Chao-Hui Duan1,2
1Guangdong Provincial Key Laboratory of Malignant Tumor Epigenetics and Gene Regulation, Sun Yat-Sen Memorial Hospital, Sun Yat-Sen University, Guangzhou 510120, People's Republic of China; 2Department of Laboratory Medicine, Sun Yat-Sen Memorial Hospital, Guangzhou 510120, People's Republic of China; 3Key Laboratory of Oncology in South China, Collaborative Innovation Center for Cancer Medicine, Department of Clinical Laboratory Medicine, Sun Yat-Sen University Cancer Center, Guangzhou 510060, People's Republic of China
*These authors contributed equally to this work
Background: Body mass index (BMI) has been associated with a risk of esophageal cancer. However, the influence of BMI and BMI loss on people with esophageal cancer that were treated with different therapies has not been described in China.
Methods: In total, 615 consecutive patients that underwent esophagectomy and/or chemotherapy/radiotherapy were classified according to the Asian-specific BMI (kg/m2,) cutoff values. The impact of BMI and BMI loss on long-term overall survival (OS) was estimated using the Kaplan–Meier method and Cox proportional hazard models.
Results: Multivariate analysis showed that overweight and obese patients had a more favorable survival than normal weight and underweight patients (p=0.017). Patients with a low BMI and high BMI loss before therapy had worse OS than others (p=0.001). Subgroup analysis showed that patients with a high BMI were more likely to suffer hypertension (p<0.001) and receive only surgery (p<0.001), and they were less likely to be smokers (p=0.007) and anemic (p<0.001). Conversely, patients with high BMI loss were more likely to be anemic (p=0.001), to have advanced pathological stage (p=0.012), and to receive chemotherapy and radiotherapy (p=0.001). Moreover, the mortality rate was higher when patients had a high BMI loss. There is no survival benefit of higher BMI in the non-esophageal squamous cell carcinoma (ESCC) group.
Conclusion: Pretreatment BMI was an independent prognostic factor for long-term survival in esophageal cancer patients treated with different treatments. The overall survival was increased in esophageal cancer patients with a high pretreatment BMI and no BMI loss. There is no survival benefit of higher BMI in the non-ESCC group.
Keywords: BMI, BMI loss, esophageal cancer, long-term survival
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Ein Spiegellabyrinth ist eine besondere Art eines Irrgartens.

Im Gegensatz zu aus einfachen Bretterwänden errichteten Irrgärten, die eine den Hecken-Irrgärten ähnliche Wegestruktur aufweisen, beruht im Spiegellabyrinth die Irreführung des Besuchers fast ausschließlich auf vorgegaukelten "virtuellen" Wegefluchten. Der Grundriss dieser immer in geschlossenen Räumen befindlichen Anlagen ist vergleichsweise einfach, ihre Grundfläche eher gering. Großflächige Spiegel täuschen durch geschickte Anordnung unendliche Korridore vor und stellen gleichzeitig Sperren dar, die ein einfaches Durchschreiten des Labyrinths verhindern. Die Spiegel stehen meist im Winkel von sechzig Grad (oder einem Vielfachen davon) zueinander und bilden häufig ein Grundraster gleichseitiger Dreiecke. Säulen, angedeutete Gewölbedecken und Lampen, die kaleidoskopartig vervielfacht erscheinen, erhöhen die Illusion eines riesigen labyrinthischen Gebäudes.

Spiegellabyrinthe kamen im 19. Jahrhundert auf. Voraussetzung für ihren Bau war die Entwicklung einer Technik, die es erlaubte, großflächige ebene Spiegel in beliebiger Stückzahl herzustellen. Zwar hatte bereits Leonardo da Vinci einen achteckigen, aus mannshohen Spiegeln bestehenden Raum vorgeschlagen, der dem darin Stehenden eine unendliche Spiegelung der eigenen Person in alle Richtungen geboten hätte, eine Realisierung scheiterte aber in Ermangelung hinreichend präziser Spiegel ausreichender Größe.

Das erste Patent für ein Spiegellabyrinth meldete der aus Berlin stammende Gustav Castan 1888 in Frankreich an. Nach seinem Bauplan wurde 1889 in Konstantinopel das erste Spiegellabyrinth im Sultanspalast errichtet. 1893 folgte eine Anlage in Chicago, die nach demselben Bauprinzip konstruiert war. Das Petřín-Labyrinth in Prag auf dem Laurenziberg (Petřín) weist einen anderen, einfacheren Plan auf. Es entstand zur Prager Jubiläumsausstellung 1891 und existiert noch heute.

Neben stationären Spiegellabyrinthen gibt es auch transportable Spiegellabyrinthe auf Volksfesten.

Spiegellabyrinthe (Auswahl)
 Petřín-Spiegellabyrinth, Tschechien (1891)
 "Alhambra" im Gletschergarten Luzern, Schweiz (1896)
 King Arthur's Mirror Maze, Longleat House, Großbritannien (1998)
 Hamburg Dungeon, Deutschland (2004)
 Aquadom und Sealife Berlin, Deutschland
 Spiegellabyrinth Berlin, Deutschland (2017)

Literatur
 Jeff Saward: The origins of mirror and wooden panel mazes. In: Caerdroia. The journal of mazes and labyrinths. Nr. 37, 2008, S. 4–12.
 Angelika Friederici: Gustav Castans Spiegellabyrinth. In: Castan's Panopticum. Ein Medium wird besichtigt. Heft 25, Berlin 2015, D-10, S. 12–15.

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Clark Gable is Doris Day's... Teacher's Pet (1958)
No, you don't need your eyes checked, you read my title right -- Clark Gable and Doris Day made a movie together, and you know what? It's really good. When I first heard of this film, I was thrilled. I mean, Doris and Gable worked together? But then a bit of dread set in. Will this be super terrible? I mean, isn't it a weird pairing? And then I saw the posters, which all have Clark staring wide-eyed at Mamie Van Doren's behind. Oh no, I thought. This is going to be one of those awful, cliché-ridden sex comedies. I'm so happy to say that I was wrong.
Teacher's Pet is a smart, witty, and surprisingly thought-provoking romantic comedy. Fay and Michael Kanin's screenplay is fantastic, showing real character development and depth, as well as looking at both sides of the coin fairly -- it's not often that I can watch a rom-com and understand both of the leads' point of view as clearly as I do with Teacher's Pet. If I may be so bold, I'm going to venture to say that this film is one of Day's best, and possibly one of Gable's best too. Let's go to the blackboard, shall we?
We open on a group of people taking a tour of the New York Evening Chronicle newspaper offices. When the tour reaches the office of city editor Jim Gannon (Gable), one of the women slips away and introduces herself to the fast-talking, multi-tasking Gannon as Mrs. Kovac, the mother of Barney, the office's errand boy. Upset that her son is choosing the newspaper over going to college like her deceased husband wished, Mrs. Kovac begs Jim to fire Barney so he'll continue his education, but Jim is thoroughly against it.
Having little education himself, he doesn't see the point in forcing Barney to go to college -- after all, working for the newspaper is its own kind of school. To prove his point, he mentions a letter he got from Professor E.R. Stone, asking him to come lecture at a night journalism class. Mrs. Kovacs is steady, though, and Jim agrees to talk to Barney, not disclosing the fact that he intends to encourage the boy's reporter career.
After that discussion, Jim is called into his boss's office, where they argue about Jim's refusal to attend Prof. Stone's class and the nasty letter of rejection he sent to Stone. When he learns that the professor is a woman, he's doubly against going. The problem is that the paper's publisher is on the board of trustees at the university, therefore necessitating Jim's apology to Ms. Stone.
Reluctantly, he goes to that evening's class and is shocked to find that the teacher is, well, Doris Day -- his expectation for a severe, stereotypically spinster-ish schoolmarm is quite worthy of an eyeroll. She begins the class by reading aloud Gannon's rude letter, which enrages the class. All they want is some guidance and this jerk has the nerve to say he doesn't have the time for them! Gannon sinks in his seat, especially when Erica proceeds to mock the editor, giving a surprisingly on-the-nose description of him.
For days afterwards, Jim is a snarling monster at the office, muttering under his breath about how terrible Erica and her class are. But then he gets an idea: he'll prove how inferior her class is to real experience by becoming one of her students. That night, he arrives late and immediately tries to antagonize Erica by correcting and finishing her sentences. Annoyed, she reminds him he must be enrolled and sends him away.
However, he quickly comes back with an enrollment card. Erica then assigns him the homework of writing a 250-word article, which he finishes in five minutes. Dubious, she reads the piece to the class and is floored by how good it is. Smirking in his seat, Jim is expecting a continuation of their battle of the sexes, but is dumbfounded when Erica apologizes to him. To add insult to injury, she excitedly uses his article as a teaching tool for the rest of the evening.
Presenting himself as Jim Gallagher, Gannon sells Erica a phony backstory, explaining that he works in wallpaper and a reporter friend of his recommended he switch to journalism. Erica reveals her reason for leaving the newspaper business to become a teacher, saying it's "not a trade, Mr. Gallagher, it's a profession. And the basic fundamentals can be taught the same as medicine. ... Journalism is so much more than blood and sex." She wants to improve newspapers, a goal that Jim seems to admire. Maybe this dame isn't so bad...
The next morning, while buying flowers to send to Erica, he calls the university and tries to reach her as Gannon, but still stinging from his words, she refuses to talk to him. Realizing he'll have to continue being Mr. Gallagher, he attends class again, where Erica asks him to stay after class: "I have a proposition to make to you." Jim clearly hopes it's an intimate proposition, but it's really an educational one -- how would he like to engage in more intense studies? Naturally, he isn't interested at all, until he hears that it would require
additional instruction in the evenings. His first assignment is a think-piece which examines the larger societal circumstances surrounding a young criminal. Jim protests that the average Joe doesn't care to read that kind of stuff, but Erica counters that he isn't giving people enough credit. Nowadays, they want to know the "why" of things; the antiquated way of journalism that Gannon specializes in is no longer enough. Jim, of course, isn't about to waste his time writing the piece, instead pushing it off on a young reporter at the office. Meanwhile, he attempts to call Erica for a dinner date, but is promptly shut down by her secretary, who reveals that the teacher's schedule is often occupied by a Dr. Hugo Pine (Gig Young).
Curious (and jealous), Jim looks into Pine, a psychologist with an incredible resume, a dozen books written, and a handsome face to boot. At a meeting with Erica, she praises his think-piece, which Gannon himself is impressed with. She encourages him to quit the wallpaper business and further his studies. When Jim mentions taking Dr. Pine's class, he is disheartened by Erica's effervescent praise of the doctor and decides to give up, but not before planting a kiss on
the teacher as a farewell. Day's reaction is priceless as she goes rubber-legged once Gable leaves the room, fanning herself as she sits down.
At a club that night, Jim is sitting with his occasional date Peggy (Mamie Van Doren) when Erica and Pine walk in. Jim seethes, irritated that Pine never had to work his way from the bottom like he had to. When Peggy goes backstage to prepare for her number, Jim joins the couple, but he quickly regrets it -- Pine is an
insufferable know-it-all, one of those pretty boys who can do anything, including matching Jim drink for drink, playing the bongo drums expertly, and dancing the mamba with Erica when Jim proves inept. To make everything worse, Peggy comes out to do her dance and the cheap gaudiness of it mortifies Jim, especially in comparison to Erica's quieter, more effective sensuality. You can see the scene here.
Jim's night improves when he, Erica, and Pine go outside to grab a taxi home and the composed Pine suddenly passes out from all of the alcohol. After taking him home, Erica and Jim share a taxi, where she admits that it's difficult being around Mr. Perfect all the time. Thrilled, Jim takes the opportunity to kiss her again, which she reciprocates.
When he sees her home, she invites him in for
coffee. As they talk, Erica reveals that she and Pine aren't an item, they're just collaborating on a book! With that out of the way, their banter becomes relaxed and quick. The best part is when Erica teases Jim by playfully recreating Peggy's number, Gable watching her in bemusement and Day proving how lovely and sultry she could be without really trying.
The evening comes to a head when Jim turns on a light to find a chair and discovers a wall dedicated to Erica's father. Throughout the film, we hear her mention her dad, including the fact that he was a newspaperman, but she passes him off as a simple man with a simple newspaper when in reality he was nationally known and highly respected. (There's a picture of him with FDR, if you can believe it. Oh, and he won a Pulitzer.) Jim is awestruck, even though Erica explains that her father's fame never changed his honest, down-to-earth roots. Feeling like a louse for deceiving Erica about his identity, Jim sneaks out while she's in the kitchen.
The next day, Pine is dealing with a massive hangover when Jim comes to call. Gig Young is pretty hilarious in this scene, as he mixes the most disgusting hangover cure while gingerly trying not to do anything to make the pain worse. Meanwhile, Jim talks to him about his friend "Max," describing his situation in the third person to get Pine's expert psychological advice. When Pine asks if this friend intends to marry the woman he is after, Jim replies that he isn't the marrying kind.
"Yet he didn't take advantage of this 'hit-and-run proposition,'" Pine points out. "It's therefore obvious that Max has affection and deep respect for this lady." It isn't too much of a stretch that "Max" might be more of the marrying kind than he thought, the doctor reasons. As long as "Max" comes clean and apologizes as soon as possible, Pine believes that the woman will forgive him.
Pine also sees through this "Max" nonsense, disclosing that he knew something had changed with Erica the minute he picked her up for their date last night -- all she could talk about was this brilliant new student. Jim confesses he's really Gannon, giving Pine a nice chuckle since he saw firsthand how steamed Erica was about that letter. In actuality, he agrees with Gannon's sentiments; journalism should be about experience. Jim must admit, though, that he's beginning to understand Erica's idea about education. I adore how this scene ends: Jim tells Pine that he tipped the waiter at the club $5 to spike Pine's drinks. "Ohhh! Now I understand! I only gave him $2 to spike yours!" Pine exclaims.
I absolutely love how complex these characters are. It would have been so easy, and so typical, to have Hugo be Jim's nemesis, his opposite in every way, but instead, the script allows them commonalities and shows that there is more to a person than the first impression. At first glance, Jim doesn't like Pine, and neither do we, but this scene between them illustrates how wrong we can be. It's similar to what Erica is talking about regarding journalism -- we need to look further and to ask "why" instead of being content with the bare minimum.
Jim goes to the newsroom and is immediately called into the publisher's office, where he comes face to face with Erica. She had stopped by to see if she could get a job for Jim, which clearly isn't necessary now. He follows her into the elevator and tries to explain, but Erica is too hurt to listen. What makes her even more angry is that he took her time away from her real students, the ones who actually needed her. You can watch their confrontation here.
Feeling low, Jim sits down with Barney and encourages him to quit the paper so he can go to school. Barney is devastated, but Jim believes now that "experience is the jockey, education is the horse." In a wonderful speech, he admits that all he knows about is the newspaper, hurting his interactions with others: "I've spent one-third of my life going to, staying in, and coming back from men's rooms. And that's not going to happen to you. You're fired." Gable honestly takes my breath away in this moment. Goddammit, he was good.
Back at Pine's apartment, Jim talks with his new bud about how mixed up he is: "Before, I had contempt for eggheads like her, and you! I was wrong. Brother, was I wrong, but at least I was definitely wrong. I was an obstinate, prejudiced, inconsiderate, cold-hearted louse, but at least I was something. Now that I've learned to respect your kind, I'm just a big, understanding, remorseful slob."
Jim is at a total loss -- for all of his life, he thought he
was right in his thinking and now he is realizing that he was wrong. He finds himself constantly asking "Why?" and he hates that he isn't well-educated like Erica and Pine. "You're confusing education with schooling," Hugo says. Education and experience go hand in hand; they're not mutually exclusive. It barely consoles Jim, who is starting to question if he even knows the newspaper business.
At that point, the doorbell rings. Jim stays in Hugo's bedroom reading old copies of Erica's father's newspaper while Hugo answers the door to find Erica. He goes about informing her of Jim's new insecurities, but as she starts to soften, Jim comes in and says he has his confidence back -- he's sure he knows what good journalism is because the Eureka Bulletin is one of the worst papers he's ever read! Erica snippily invites him to tell her what's wrong with it and boy, does he. Jim then challenges her to go through the paper herself, this time without her sentimental attachment. She does later that night, realizing that Jim is right.
She returns to the Evening Chronicle and proposes that she and Jim co-teach the class. She then hears that Jim told his staff that while he still wants the paper to be exciting and commercial, he also wants them to interpret the news better and do more think-pieces.
As the two get ready to go to lunch together, Mrs. Kovac appears to thank Jim for firing Barney; her son may be angry now, but he looks up to Jim, who guarantees that Barney will have a job when he is finished with school.
In the newsroom, Jim finds Erica talking to that reporter who wrote his think-piece for class, learning that he's a former student of hers. Jim gruffly tells him to drastically edit his article down for publication as Erica looks on, demonstrating that their two styles work well together and they'll be able to create better journalists as a team.
Let's discuss the supporting cast for a second here. This is the only film I've seen Mamie Van Doren in, so I feel like I can't fully judge her, but I will say that she doesn't really leave an impression on me. She has just the one scene and although she is supposed to be a Marilyn Monroe type, she doesn't have the charisma that Monroe had.
Gig Young, on the other hand, is definitely memorable. I like Young, but I don't always like his characters -- if he wasn't given just the right part, he doesn't seem to shine. Teacher's Pet might be my favorite role of his so far, and it was actually nominated for a Best Supporting Actor Academy Award, which shocks me. It's a great performance, but Oscar-worthy? I'm not so sure.
Young could have stolen the whole film if it weren't for Day and Gable. Seemingly mismatched at first, the power of both stars quickly vanishes any doubts. Clark Gable is one of my favorites, a guy whose acting skills combined with his magnetism makes for a true entertainer. He also has one of the most expressive faces I've ever seen; as funny as it sounds, his eyebrow work continually impresses me. With Gable on the screen, it would be easy to focus solely on him, but Ms. Day is a force of her own. Strong, intelligent, funny, and warm, Erica Stone is a wonderful role, and Doris plays her perfectly.
An underrated gem, Teacher's Pet is a movie that surely won't waste your time. From the cast to the script to the fine direction by George Seaton, it's a marvelous thing to behold. You can catch it on Netflix Instant right now, too!
P.S. Here's a shot of Doris and Clark at the 30th Academy Awards in 1958. They presented the Oscars for Best Adapted Screenplay and Best Original Screenplay, and it was one of the few times Gable ever went to the ceremony, or indeed ever appeared on television. You can see it here, starting at 4:52. On a side note, you should also watch Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas's "It's Great Not to Be Nominated" from the same ceremony. It's fantastic stuff.
This is my entry to the Back-to-School Blogathon. You can read the posts of the other participants here.
Oh, I love this movie so much! Thanks for such a fantastic review! I don't understand why it is not better known. It's great how they both come to see each other's point of view. In so many films, it doesn't feel equal - someone always seems to be more right than the other.
You're right - they are such an unexpectedly great team.
Oh, I am co-hosting a blogathon called Characters in Costume that I wanted to invite you to join. It is all about character's appearance, costumes, make-up, the people who design the costumes, etc. It is occurring in October.
https://christinawehner.wordpress.com/2016/09/07/announcing-the-characters-in-costume-blogfest-fiction-and-film/
Michaela September 11, 2016 at 7:24 PM
They're pretty great. I don't know how this movie got buried. The leading couple alone should have piqued people's interests enough to check it out.
I've been mulling over what to do for your blogathon this whole weekend! I'm planning on sitting in front of my DVD collection and getting it figured out tonight.
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2011 equal to "missing people" . soo i'm wishing this 2012 come with better things .
new chapter baby ! hopefully this new beginning full with joy happiness blessed and lots of loveee .
2012 determination , finished study successfully !