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Fimfiction Thread: Now with 81% more close calls Anonymous 01/22/23(Sun)10:16:28 No.39546763
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The eighteenth book is Twilight Sparkle of the Royal Guard
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First for best duo.
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So on this week's menu we've got Scion of Chaos -- a fic with a premise so boring not even a filly would read it! Which is somewhat ironic, given that the story is about a filly.
>/FSBC/
For those select few of you unlucky souls who got conned to read it, congrats. Your dedication has been noted. But did it get rewarded by the fic itself?
Well, that's a definitive "maybe" from me.
>review 19508/scion-of-chaos
Two thirds of this story are consistently good, sometimes great. Unfortunately, the opening isn't a part of those two thirds. That makes it hard to recommend, and the writing -- though not terrible -- isn't good enough to make sloughing through the opening chapters blind an attractive endeavor.
If you decide that you can stomach a weaker opening to a story, Scion of Chaos will likely justify itself not much later. Yes, the plot is mostly your typical adventure journey, but as is often the case, you don't need to reinvent the wheel to end up with a fic that's pleasant to read. Sweetie and Discord's interactions are quite nice, same with the way they both slowly change over the course of the fic. Sweebles learning how to use her magic when confronted with various obstacles was also really fun to read.
The fic has that s2 comfyness to it, though you need to wait until Sweetie leaves Ponyville to experience it. Then it pivots again (much more smoothly this time) and the last two-three chapters deserve a special mention for the mood that they convey. They kinda hit harder than I expected from a fun little fic. And though the story's general formula is not unique, the ending certainly is.
A very important question that I ask myself after finishing any fic is "How will I remember this story in a year/years?". If the answer is "not at all", then the fic failed where it's most important. Scion of Chaos won't be one of those bland, failed fics, of that I'm reasonably sure. It's no Cartography of War, but as a medium length adventure with good characters and some memorable scenes, I can't bring myself to rate it lower than 7/10 despite the terribly unexciting beginning. It's really more of a 6.5 but I don't use partial grades.
I did not see this ending coming. It seemed that there were always two possible ways to end this kind of a story, so when Twilight denied them both by straight-up killing Discord I felt cheated.
But, like, in a good way? It made logical sense and it fit the themes of the fic. I mean, Discord foreshadowed his fate ten chapters earlier and it played off of lumberjack boomer's story, too.
Side note, it's both hilarious and kinda disappointing that some readers didn't realize Sweetie's chaos magic mentor "Scoddri" is Discord until almost halfway through the fic.
The next book is Twilight Sparkle of the Royal Guard
Chapters 0-3 for next week, the remaining three a week after that.
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Third for cute mares (and one stallion)!
So, word of warning, I read 80% of this fic today, and being a retardedly slow reader I had to speedread to get that done within 4-5 hours, so expect my reading comprehension to be around twiflag levels.
First off, the prose was fucking horrendous. Genuinely the worst I've seen in the book club. Full to the brim of LUS in all its shapes, ages and colours, redundancy, repetition, filtering words, misused vocabulary, laziness and more than a fair share of downright grammatical mistakes. I swear to God, if I see one more missing comma before a direct address I'm going to ree. Oh, and the dialogue tags. Christ, he had two characters for 90% of the fic, and they had completely different formatting for their speech. I'm sure the vast majority of dialogue tags could simply be deleted with absolutely no consequence for the fic. How many times can you write "she verbed adverbly" and not go insane? It's simpler to just not have it in there to begin with.
It also consistently failed to carry over the tone of the scene. For instance, with the owlbear. The conversation between Sweetie and Discord felt like a quaint little chat rather than a panicked exchange.
Then there's the fact that the prose tries to be purple, but ends up so clumsy that it's painful. Genuine pain in the dick to read. So many of the sentences were so damn rigid and awkward, or downright unpleasant. I could respect if it was trying to go for a simple style but had issues. But no, it often tried to be grand and pretty.
Oh, and use the word filly instead of girl, I beg of you.
The prose is so bad that I'm not going to spend a lot of time beating this dead horse, but jesus fucking christ was this a rough read because of that.
Then there's the first few chapters. Boring. Repetitive. And boring again. Some information was communicated three times to the reader throughout those chapters. The pacing was beyond glacial, too. The fic could have started 20k words in and still have been the exact same.
While it did get better, I still got annoyed whenever something wasn't concise, which happened all too often. To be specific, the author would use four sentences to get across three pieces of information, overlapping over the sentences. Consistently. Like the author didn't trust us to have any reading comprehension. It was most eggregious when Sweetie's thoughts, where most of them were either superfluous or lazy way to *tell* the reader something.
Fuck it, I'm going to harp, in detail, on the pacing. The main issue was that there were long stretches where absolutely no fucking thing happened other than Sweetie walking and having mild banter with Discord. While I get that developing their friendship was important for what the author was going for, this was a clumsy and annoying way to go about it. It would have been fine, if not for the fact that their banter was very hit or miss. Discord's lines often lacked any snappiness, much to my dismay, and he ended up talking like an old, wise buck for a lot of the time.
That would have been fine, given when this was published. Discord's characterisation was not set in stone (heheh), so having the whole prankster spiel be part of him, but also a façade, was pretty interesting. If only it had felt consistent.
While Discord's characterisation was a mixed bag but overall interesting, I cannot for the fucking life of me say the same about Sweetie. She was a fucking blank slate. She didn't act her age unless it was convenient for the plot, she was always super mellow. It felt like I was reading a self-insert into Sweetie Belle. Why pick Sweetie for this? Obviously because "sweetie learning magic" was a pretty big deal at the time, and mixing it with Discord was a pretty cool idea. So why the fuck does it feel like Sweetie Belle was an afterthought in all this?
Then there's the issue of plot convenience. One example comes to mind during the scene with the owlbear. Why didn't he tell her sooner that it was dangerous, if it was so damn obvious how dangerous it was?
Overall, a big issue about the fic was that it insisted on showing rather than telling, and we got to see so many useless scenes. I know I just complained about about telling rather than showing, but when the fic did tell, it did so with spectacular laziness.
In a similar vein, something that annoyed me early on were all the infodumps thrown at the reader in quick succession. I don't know why they were so obnoxious to trudge through, but they were. Especially with the "magic for foals" book; felt like a completely gratuitous infodump, not helped by the author's attempts to lampshade it by having Sweetie point out that it didn't make sense to have such information in a book for foals.
The ending is a mixed bag. I think it's a logical thing to go for; Discord going free would have been a very weird ending and would have led to a completely different epilogue. Instead, having Sweetie Belle go back to a normal life afterwards is an understandable choice. The point of the fic clearly wasn't to uproot her life, but instead to show something that defined her in who she would become. I just wish the author had gone a different route. Not just because it would have made for a less disappointing ending ("lol, discord dead"), but because it would have opened the door for a completely different adventure.
Okay, fine, I didn't hate everything about this fic. For one, the mechanics of magic are neat. Nothing groundbreaking, but it was still interesting to see Sweetie learn about them. Overall, it was nice to see Sweetie getting used to her magic. It's why the Everfree Ruins scene was so cool. The lore we were given didn't feel infodump-y, Sweetie made great and cool progress with her magic, and the banter was actually nice.
Also, the absolute best thing I can say about this fic is that the vibe (and premise) reminded me of Necromancy for Foals. We find out that the protagonist is special, but quickly realise that it's not such a good thing. Like, you can tell that the protagonist is never in any real danger, but you're still rooting for them from the bottom of your heart. Because yes, I did end up rooting for Sweetie in this.
Despite a lot of the lukewarm banter, their friendship did grow on me, too.
I also liked the cutie mark interpretation; the idea that it's not your god-given destiny, but instead just something you chose from the bottom of your heart.
Overall, I'm torn between a 3.5 and a 4/10. I did not enjoy myself for a majority of it, but I know I would have liked it more if I'd spread out my reading time better. Only, it's hard to do that when you mostly read before bed and the fic puts you the fuck to sleep. It does get better, but it never gets good.
Now for some small observations about the fic.
Something I don't get is why Discord told her to grab magic from her heart when most unicorns do it from their heads.
Another thing I found neat is that, maybe, the whole seeing magic thing is genetic, given that Rarara can find gems like that.
>Sucking out lifeforce from vegetation and other living beings
Cutie Mark Crusader Necromancers, yay!
Pretty sure I spotted an offspring reference during the Diamond Dog arc, too.
A scene that made me laugh was the one with the gardener.
>yell at kid to get off your lawn
>kid actually apologises
>immediately disappears to fuck knows where
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>AiE fic
> /FSSBC/
Oh boy. I have surprisingly little to say about this. So first things first, the premise is weird and hard to vibe with. Silver is a weird MC, and I have a hard time feeling bad for her. Obviously bad things are going to happen to her, but it's kinda her fault? Like, she could have just left instead of letting DT mindfuck her?
I like the idea that DT is completely insane due to years of parental abuse. I feel super bad for Red, poor dude didn't deserve any of this. I'm hoping for a happy ending, but given the bits and pieces I've read of chapter 4, I doubt there's gonna be one.
Overall, my biggest gripe with it is how much of the story is dedicated to porn. Just straight up porn. While Shining's Isekai also had porn, the horrific buildup to it was what made it so fucking terrifying to see it actually happen. ToD, though? Just porn. If there had been more buildup to it, that would have been a different story. But as it stands, I really did not enjoy it, which saddens me given how much I loved Shining's Isekai. Here's to hoping it becomes more horrifying over the upcoming chapters.
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I'm not quite sure what to think of this one yet. For one, I hate how non-pony this story feels. What I mean by this is that besides some light speciesism (which is always a welcome trope) and DT being a canon character, there is nothing in this story that makes it 'feel' MLP. The technology is practically contemporary, the OCs and even DT have very human problems... Compared to, say, GTG, where at least the author was very careful to make the world feel "familiar but distant" by basing it on a 19th-20th century setting, here it kinda felt like I'm reading about humans in a human world who happen to be ponies. I hope you understand what I mean.
For two, I have to admit that aside from the occasional hiccup that I would have done differently, I really dig the prose. It's deeply evocative and flavorful and it really helps sell the scenes the author is trying to convey. Though, I feel during the "porn" part he went a bit too overboard with repetition, I understand the intent, it is to show how Silver is slowly broken by the abuse, but for me it slowly flipped from awful to unintentionally comedic to tedious. I don't know, maybe the issue is in my device, personally I think the point would have been conveyed with less of the same. The "PTSD" joke also didn't really hit for me. If the author didn't explicitly call attention to it, it would've been an okay gag, but pointing at it so blatantly just felt smug and silly to me.
As for what I think of the plot at the moment? DT is most likely coping with a traumatic upbringing in an extremely unhealthy way and is seeing her childhood friend in Silver; this much seems obvious. I'm hoping there will either be some sort of twist or at the very least some interesting introspection into the inner mind of DT, because as the story stands, I'm just not invested. I'm already not into non-con, but I also didn't find the scene nearly as viscerally repulsive as Shining's, so this rape-by-any-other-name encounter between the two mares left me quite cold. Red is a nice character at least, I guess. I like that he's not "saccharine good", but compared to everyone else he really is in the moral right. Silver herself feels little more than a "necessarily pathetic" character, who's used to drive the plot forward. I find it a bit hard to root for her because she is so helpless, but perhaps this might change with time.
All in all, I'm still interested to see what's going to happen next, but less because I feel hooked and more because I'm willing to give the author the benefit of the doubt that he'll be able to hook me.
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Tower in the night
Up to the sky
Carry our remains
Angel of light
To the dark side of paradise
>/FSSBC/
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/508109/tower-of-diamond
I would like to say, first off,
>"Why the fuck do you have a horn, Silver?"
I want this quote tattooed onto my soul.
I really like reading this fic. Maybe I like reading it more than I like the fic itself, though I like the fic too. I think there is merit to comparing it to Shining's, and perhaps the biggest difference is how much slower the pace is. We're more words into this than we were week one there and yet far less has happened. I think that's more of a compliment towards the other fic, that it manages such a fast pace without feeling rushed at all (at least until the end) (also I just realised SI was part of the inspiration for a fic I wrote), but I don't mind the slower pace here. I like it, actually. I can only hope the fic delivers on the ending.
I think the first two chapters were mostly setup, with some needed character establishing. I like all the characters, genuinely invested in seeing where they go. And yes, the fic's a little leaning on the porn side at casual moments, but it does have the tag after all so I'm cool with it.
Chapter 3 though. Holy shit. I mean, I was already impressed by the earlier ones, but I will need to reread them at some point because chapter 3 left such an impact. It doesn't even feel like porn. It feels like I'm seeing something I shouldn't, it makes me hate it and I love that. It's so raw and it keeps going. And DT. Damn DT.
She's just a completely broken mare, and it's done so well it makes me feel bad about all my attempts. What she does with Silver and how and why is chilling, and the implications of what might have happened in her past are both terrifying and extremely interesting. I really want to hear just a bit more about what happened, though it's clear what the effects have been. And poor Silver and Red forced into having to deal with the consequences.
I'm really curious to see where things go from now. In a way hopeful that things will resolve for all of them. The scene in chapter 3 was so primal that on top of definitely qualifying the fic for this club it has me extremely invested in what will happen next.
The fic does have some problems I guess. Some things that some more proofreading would have helped with. I don't feel like talking about those just yet, maybe when the whole thing is done. Damn I want to read it. I hope the story doesn't fuck itself over because I so want to keep liking it. I don't know, the whole dynamic between DT and Silver strokes some parts of my lizard brain in ways I can't convert to words. I just *know*, you know?
There's probably more individual aspects to comment on that I'm forgetting and will hopefully be brought up so I can address them. And damn, damn, this is one fic that makes me want to talk about it with people. Wooo. It has this almost dreamlike quality in some scenes I wish I could replicate.
>They kinda hit harder than I expected from a fun little fic.
I think that's part of my issue with it. They hit a tiny bit harder, but don't actually hit hard. In theory, those scenes should have hit way harder than that, but the author spent absolutely no time exploring Sweetie's loss.
In general, the issue is that the prose does not follow the severity of things happening.
>I did not see this ending coming.
It didn't really surprise me. It was one of the only logical conclusions to the setup that could have such a short wrap-up.
>I felt cheated.
Same, and if it hadn't been for the epilogue I would have knocked the story down to 3/10 just for that.
Yes it thematically makes sense, but it not getting explored at all was such a lame cop-out that would have made me seethe if not for the fact that, apparently, Discord is overall fine.
>I hate how non-pony this story feels
I think you're onto something, here. That's not a criticism I usually agree with, since it's usually lazily slapped onto anything remotely dark, but here I fully agree, and I dislike that about the story too.
>I really dig the prose. It's deeply evocative and flavorful and it really helps sell the scenes the author is trying to convey.
Same. So much so that I forgot to mention it. Oops.
>but for me it slowly flipped from awful to unintentionally comedic to tedious.
Then you had a better experience with that scene than me, because to me it was tedious from the very beginning.
>All in all, I'm still interested to see what's going to happen next, but less because I feel hooked and more because I'm willing to give the author the benefit of the doubt that he'll be able to hook me.
Word for word, same.
>I think the first two chapters were mostly setup, with some needed character establishing.
Yup, which is why I'm not reeing about the pacing, even though I usually would be.
>porn side at casual moments, but it does have the tag
So did SI, so I feel tricked, 'cause I was expecting the porn tag to just be there as a safeguard.
>She's just a completely broken mare
That's one of the few things actually keeping me interested in the fic, I'll be honest. I want to see her go of the deep end and die a horrible death. I want to be horrified by her.
>It has this almost dreamlike quality in some scenes I wish I could replicate.
I feel that, just not with this fic. In my case it's Project Horizons that has this effect on me whenever I read certain parts of it. It just hits that one spot so deep in my soul and makes me feel like I'll never ever be even 1% as good as a writer.
You can be a good writer if you have good tastes. Have bad tastes and you'll write nothing but shit.
>First off, the prose was fucking horrendous.
It was somewhat bad, but it wasn't nearly THAT bad. At times it did read like a list of 2012's bad practices, but actual errors were more rare, and it was several levels ahead of, say, OTEM's first chapter. I'd never call it great, but it wasn't nearly as bad as you make it out to be. One thing I noted that was pretty bad in a unique way, was how weird some of the dialog was paced. Like wrapping three short spoken sentences in four sentences of descriptions, ruining the fast pace of a scene. Oh, I see you mentioned something like that with the owlbear, yeah.
>she verbed adverbly
That's really noticeable when you actively look for it, but on normal reading your brain should more or less ignore those bits.
>Oh, and use the word filly instead of girl, I beg of you.
Agree, but it does use filly a whole lot (ctrl+f reveals 250 "filly" and 100 "girl"), "girl" only appears when Discord is addressing her. For... Discord's characterization, I suppose?
>The main issue was that there were long stretches where absolutely no fucking thing happened other than Sweetie walking and having mild banter with Discord.
That's how it often goes with A->B adventure fics. Characters arrive at A, do something, set out to B, talk along the way and maybe run into something that changes their plans. Repeat as many times as necessary. That's reductive, but complaining about walking from place to place a couple times isn't fair.
>Sweetie Belle
I completely disagree. Most of the problems she runs into during her quest are caused by her acting like a foal. It was the opposite for me if anything, she acted more like a foal that I thought she would. But that's good, she is a foal. Frankly it's kind of a stretch that she hasn't figured out Scoddri sooner, with her being 'the smart one' in the show. Also 'the smart one' in the fic, which is something Discord remarks on perhaps a bit too often.
>In general, the issue is that the prose does not follow the severity of things happening.
That's a good way to put it and the most annoying part of the writing here, imo. You have to work with the fic a bit to have it achieve the desired outcome. Not reeee'ing at the writing inconsistencies and issues also helps a lot.
>Discord is overall fine.
I don't think he is. Him turning his "essence" or whatever into a crystal was treated like a suicide more than anything else, and Twilight's spell then shattered half of this crystal. He's not quite dead-dead, but he's far from fine. Everypony assumes he's dead, too.
>but it not getting explored at all was such a lame cop-out that (...)
Oh, that's the part that I like, actually! Sweetie embarked on a -- from her PoV -- grand quest, and then right at the very end when Sweetie is about to meet with the freed Discord, Twilight shows up and just rips through the finale. No Discord reformation, no chaos studies, no nothing. Just a pile of rubble and a broken gem.
Too bad, looks like this one's really porn. Though again, unlike what you two seem to think, the rape scene didn't feel porn at all to me. It's a lot more visceral and honest than that, probably because it's from Silver's POV.
>non-pony
I get where that comes from but I really don't feel it. Maybe I'm just more used to this stuff in pony fics, PD being one of the first main ones I've read and all. (It's the next one we'll do too, btw).
>the premise
I actually vibe with it a lot, mainly because I naturally vibe with both weird things and the abstract concept of decadence. It's something I should explore more in my fics (but haven't much yet partly because some of my ideas I can't even post on Fimmy, although I've finally decided there is one fic I'm going to write).
>Silver could have left
I really don't think she could have. She got treated like shit, yes, but she still got her promotion. And she always had hero worship towards DT. And she still loves Red. She has too many things keeping her tied to the place and as far as she knew it was still the best alternative financially compared to starting over, especially after being told she's nothing special. She couldn't know DT was going to get drunk and go fully insane over her because of her name and looks.
>porn
This fic doesn't even have that much desu.
Prose is good yes.
>repetition
A bit of a problem, yes. Could have been done better. I like the length of the chapter, though.
>Silver
Silver is really just a victim of circumstance. But maybe she'll be something more going forward. At least she's trying her best.
>but on normal reading your brain should more or less ignore those bits.
Maybe. I know that I notice it even when I'm not actively looking for it, but usually only when it's severely overused. And boy was it overused here.
>"girl" only appears when Discord is addressing her
Yeah, that's mostly what I was referring to. I'm assuming it was used because it was Discord directly addressing her, and the author didn't think using "filly" for direct addressing sounded nice. Which I would disagree with. If it truly was for characterisation purposes, then I also disagree with it. Doesn't make sense tbdesu.
>walking from place to place a couple times
It didn't feel like just a couple of times. It felt like a good 10-15k words were dedicated to travel.
>Most of the problems she runs into during her quest are caused by her acting like a foal.
To me that falls into "plot convenience". It's during her conversations with Discord and other characters that she strikes me as way too mature.
>I don't think he is [fine].
True, but I mostly meant that he's still alive, and that's what matters.
>ending
See, my issue isn't with the course of action. It's not that Twilight showed up and suicided Discord that's annoying me, it's the fact that it's not given any weight other than one or two lines about how Sweetie Belle cried afterwards. I would have wanted to be shown her crying. I would have wanted to see her get mad at Twilight. Not to be told it like "oh by the way". Discord's death felt like it had no weight at all, even though it obviously did have a huge impact on Sweetie.
Oh right, before I forget for the third time:
Next week we're reading chapters 4 5 and 6. Also it looks like I was wrong and we're actually less into this than we were with Shining, my bad, but still. Definitely a slow fic, which I like.
>the rape scene
Funny, I didn't even think of it as a rape scene until you called it that. I kiiiinda see where you're coming from, but to me it was just a very weird sex scene.
>>Silver could have left
>I really don't think she could have
>especially after being told she's nothing special
To me that's the point at which she should have left. Maybe it's just me, but I cannot relate to wanting to keep your job so badly that you'd stay in an environment like that. So, I especially don't get why she didn't just fuck off DT laid a hoof on her.
>This fic doesn't even have that much desu.
Thank. Fuck. Because that chapter was one tedious read and a half.
>At least she's trying her best.
Is she really? It felt like she was trying hard at work, but completely gave up on everything the moment she was insulted.
>I kiiiinda see where you're coming from, but to me it was just a very weird sex scene.
It's rape. DT almost kills her, then forces herself on Silver. Silver does not even like it. It's a lot more clearly rape than a lot of porn typically is.
One, again, she still has Red. Two, leaving Diamond requires leaving the town. Three, in her head to some degree at that point Diamond was right. Diamond still built herself up there and she's still her hero. I think to some degree she thinks she deserves what she got. But on top of that, she's still figuring herself out, and she's getting paid more. Maybe she would have left eventually, but not immediately. I think it should be noted that she's to some degree broken already. She had DT posters after all. I think there's something fucked in her past we haven't seen yet.
>that chapter
Wasn't porn honestly. The casual mentions of genitals are porn. That chapter had other intents as far as I interpreted it.
>Silver trying
Well yes. On her work. But she's also probably depressed to some degree, and despite that still okay with being with Red. So yeah, she's trying her best only on work and focusing solely on that, but it's what she thinks is right.
>a fic with a premise so boring not even a filly would read it! Which is somewhat ironic, given that the story is about a filly.
>chapter 1-3 is sweetie picking up a magic book and then not reading it
>it's also me picking up the story and then not reading it
>Twilight denied them both by straight-up killing Discord
sounds like an ending I would've liked a lot lmao
>>>>>>>Scoddri
I will be rereading royal guard with you guys though
>so expect my reading comprehension to be around twiflag levels
>filly won't read a story about a filly learning magic
>will continue participating in the mind-break hypno rape book club
>It's rape.
I dunno, Silver could have just left. She's the one who let DT almost kill her, oto. At best it's dubcon. And even then. Silver not liking it is irrelevant (otherwise any unsatisfying sex would be rape)
>Still has Red
Still doesn't get me to sympathise with her. She should have just left and started anew somewhere else.
>Silver is already broken
Most of me just thinks it's her own fault for worshipping the CEO of a company to the point of letting her words get to her like that.
>Wasn't porn honestly.
I'm glad you can see it that way, I wish I could.
>I dunno, Silver could have just left. She's the one who let DT almost kill her, oto. At best it's dubcon. And even then. Silver not liking it is irrelevant (otherwise any unsatisfying sex would be rape)
Seriously, now. Like, yes, she makes mistakes, and arguably it's dubcon by the end, but the setup is rape. Yes, a normal pony shouldn't just crawl because they're asked, she definitely should have left sooner if she wasn't half broken too, but that doesn't not make it rape when DT almost kills her. And even then there's the power disparity. It's far too close to irl equivalents to not say it's rape.
>Still doesn't get me to sympathise with her.
I don't think you need to. I don't necessarily think she's in the right. I don't think it's healthy for her to worship DT like that either. I think your mistake might be thinking you should be interested in her because she's "the protagonist", but I think Diamond is the real protagonist. Silver is relevant because she's what finally sets off all of DT's issues, not necessarily because of who she is outside of that.
>I wish I could
Read some actual proper porn and you will eventually.
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23rd for best duo!
>irl equivalents
Now you've completely lost me. I could kinda see the angle earlier, but what irl equivalents? DT's insanity and Silver's patheticness (is that a word?) are both things I'd have a really hard time picturing IRL.
>DT is the protagonist
Fair enough. I guess I'll see when I read the next few chapters.
>Read some actual proper porn
Can't stand porn, it's all way too boring. I read fics for the story, and reading porn for the story… well…
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>Cutie Mark Crusader Necromancers, yay!
That's not necromancy! That's just life force magic, basically the opposite of necromancy. In some systems, it's "just magic."
Necromancy often deals with soul-magic, life after death. ITCON also has an interesting necromancy that deals with life->death transitions.
In the vast majority of necromancy fics, stories, games, etc, I've experienced, sucking the life force out of things counts as necromancy.
Trust me, I'm a necromancy-loving edgelord.
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But is it necroturgy?
>At best it's dubcon
IMO it was pretty clearly meant to be rape. Maybe neither character "thought" of it as such, but Silver pretty clearly wasn't in the right mindset to give consent and DT didn't particularly ask for it in the first place. Sure she could have said no, but in a town that's figuratively (and maybe even literally) owned by the pony giving the order, that'd be basically a surefire way of ending on the street or worse.
There need not be physical coercion for it to be non-consensual. Silver doesn't even realize what's going on at first and by the time she does, she's gone from her head.
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I doubt it. Is the scene the same as the one in Eragon-the-book? Connect with a bunch of plants and bugs, use their life force to levitate a ball of water, then they all die because it was used up?
Even there, it's like "evil people use this power for evil, we don't so we don't call it necromancy" in a system where it's more about intent.
>DT's insanity and Silver's patheticness (is that a word?) are both things I'd have a really hard time picturing IRL
Yes, but someone's boss sexually abusing their employees under threat of firing them is not unheard of, and someone doing even half of what DT does to Silver in chapter 3 irl would be rape, and you're sounding a touch close to the whole "she was looking for it" rhetoric. There are obviously other elements at play here, but in general Siover being a doormat doesn't make DT not a rapist.
>I guess I'll see
We both will. I haven't gotten to them yet. I was making an educated guess.
>reading porn for the story
Read FiMC.
Chad Thundercock
Chad Thundercock 01/22/23(Sun)12:53:50 No.39547256
Where do I go if I want suggestions on how to write a concept better? like for example pro racism and pro elite as a good thing?
>Silver pretty clearly wasn't in the right mindset to give consent
And? She didn't say no even though she could have.
>physical coercion
Well, duh, any form of coercion counts. I just don't see the coercion here.
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Not that either, it's vitaturgy!
Real life has plenty of examples.
>under threat of firing
Then is it really rape? They could just say no and take it. I've yet to have a job I love so much I'd be willing to go to such lengths to keep it.
>Read FiMC.
Absolutely not. I'd need to be paid 4 digits to even consider looking at a [anthro][porn] fic.
>Then is it really rape?
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So you're, uh, pretty far gone, huh?
I feel like you're conflating the "violent / forced sexual intercourse" you have a fetish for and the irl definition of rape.
Tunafag calling someone insane is the funniest thing to come out of /fimfic/ in a while.
Maybe. It's mostly just that I usually hear the whole "it's always rape!" rethoric from the twitter crowd, so I'm extremely skeptical of it.
kek, yeah
Doesn't change the fact it's a massive franchise with a lot of fanfiction
>Futaloo get never ever
Futaloo GET
I guess I'll just have to rape you to prove a point.
u g h
Go ahead, try me.
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Just got trolled hard
>be me
>find an interesting fic, 130k words, finished
>read it, it's good
>approach the end, turns out it's FIRST book out of two
>open second book
>1 chapter released, cancelled in 2014
FUCK. I liked that story. At least there's some kind of closure since author posted his plans for the rest of the fic and the ending in his blog, but it's still disappointing.
The fic itself:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/65656/letters-from-a-friend-at-the-end-of-the-world
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Anon.......
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Okay, but if I successfully fuck you then it's not rape because you could have walked out.
It is, if there's physical coercion then it's the most basic definition of rape.
The most retarded thing is that, on the "sequel", there's someone saying the original should get the "Canceled" status. A perfectly valid point. And fimfiction users downvote it because >fimfiction users.
Alright then I'll first trick you into getting tied down a d or drugged and then fuck you. Since I didn't physically coerce you it's not rape.
Anon, drugging someone is still rape. Taking advantage of someone who's tied down is also rape if that person says no. You can't loophole this.
I'll put tape over your mouth first.
Fuck I remember that, the 'sequel' isn't even a sequel he just made it one for some reason.
Along the same lines as drugging. It's taking precautions so that the other party can't say no.
>be in a position of power over someone else (ie be their boss and threaten to fire them)
>this doesn't influence the other parties ability to say no
Am I getting this right? Didn't read the story so I'm not entirely sure what the original comment implied
>publish """complete""" 130k word fic
>get bragging rights
I mean, is the risk of getting fired really the same, at all, as actually being unable to say no?
At the end of the day, if you're willing to accept such behaviour from your boss, you must really cling to your job.
Yeah, there's not even a clear cut at the end of the first fic. I would've understood him at least somewhat if the first book ended when they came to Frostvale, but he just published the next chapter of the story in a separate book
I remember having a good time with that story until we reached the non-ending. Did the pregnant mare died, or am I confusing it with another fic?
>Someone points a gun at you and tells you to have sex with them or they'll kill you
>not rape because I can still just choose to die instead of have sex with them
I mean I understand you have an option, but forcing to choose between unwanted sex or something bad happening isn't much of a choice although I see that being physically restrained means you have no choice at all
I just looked up rape and it has to do with consent so I looked up consent
>permission for something to happen or agreement to do something
If the options are get fired or have sex and you don't agree to either then it's rape even if you choose one over the other
Also she wasn't even coerced explicitly into sex at first. Her boss had her come to her room, then crawl on the floor (while making it clear that she's getting fired otherwise), then almost killed her by stepping on her neck and threatened her life if she didn't play along, then began to touch her around, and only several minutes into it did the touching become sexual.
>comparing losing your job to getting killed
Anon, unless you're gender studies levels of unemployable, those two things aren't even remotely on the same level.
>>PoV: You're the snuff in a snuff film
kek I'm glad I'm not reading that although it was pretty clear looking at the spoilers in the description
>>comparing losing your job to getting killed
>Anon, unless you're gender studies levels of unemployable, those two things aren't even remotely on the same level.
>agrees with guy who said she almost killed her under threat of getting fired
kek and jobs are certainly in some way linked to survival and quality of life in a capitalist society
Oh, I thought he was making the argument that this should have been her wake-up call and that she should have just left then.
They are linked to survival, but the correlation is loose since you can just find another job. Unless you live in a shithole or you're completely unemployable. Neither of which applies to Silver Saddles.
I don't even know what we're talking about anymore, and I'm certainly not qualified to discuss this since I didn't read it so I'm just gonna finish with 'It was probably rape'
>Silver Saddles
Also, again, she's fine with getting stepped on. She's not fine with almost getting killed. It's like telling you I'll give you a hundred bucks if you hold up a vase, then after you hold it I pull out a gun on you and tell you to smash it on your head or get shot.
Yeah, but if you take the gun away and I still stay around this clearly deranged lunatic, then it's clearly my fault.
This whole "she could just get another job" argument would hold more water if not for the fact that DT monologues extensively about owning everything in the city up to the mayor.
Someone so influential could and someone as petty/deranged absolutely would fuck up SS's life.
Yeah, but there are other cities, aren't there?
Just kill her.
If you have to try to justify how your life ISN'T completely ruined, it was probably rape
At no point did DT do that though. We'll see going forward, and on some level Silver is "into it" now, but during the whole thing Silver was always too weak to fight back, aware that Diamond could easily overpower her (earth pony strength is specifically called out), that she's drunk enough to do it, and that she's powerful enough to get away with it.
Also your whole "just leave lol" is pretty much ignoring how people work and a basic lack of understanding of real abuse scenarios.
Murder does lend itself to fewer debates about degree than rape.
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It doesn't seem to hold any water regardless, given that it's based on "a character should've been completely objective as though they weren't in the story" while the story in question is conspicuously a schizo story.
And because of the whole "you were coerced into sex, that makes it not rape because coercion and consent are the same thing" ridiculousness.
But also because of the former.
Feeling rapey? Try murder!
It's the rational thing to do!
What do you mean completely ruined? Moving to a different city is hardly a big deal, is it?
She coulda just run away in the occasions she got after that.
>ignoring how people work and a basic lack of understanding of real abuse scenarios
I mean, it's hard to draw parallels to irl stuff given how out there this is as a scenario.
>a character whose life was just threatened shouldn't run for their life when they get the chance
>"coercion" is still coercion if the leverage is insignificant
>She coulda just run away in the occasions she got after that
Through the elevator she can't operate herself, or through the window?
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The other posters have made it clear that Silver was made to feel like it was significant leverage, you're trying to argue that she consented because objectively she could have left but she was too dumb to. I can see how someone with this way of thinking has trouble with social media, at least.
She can still get into the elevator and activate the intercom, can she not? Honestly, the fact that there's an intercom makes her even dumber for not trying.
I'm just saying Silver's a bit of a retard here.
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Any stories where there's explicitly over a billion ponies. I need there to be insane number of ponies all over the place. If it's just tens or even hundreds of millions of ponies, that's not enough.
>She can still get into the elevator and activate the intercom, can she not?
And Diamond will get to her before Red can send her down.
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https://www.fimfiction.net/story/246579/luna-princess-of-space
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Kek, i accidentally posted this in the wrong thread. Sorry, i'm a bit drunk right now.
What's this thread's opinion on Anon in Equestria stories? I know that many people here don't like HiE in general, and i can understand that - 90% of the time those stories are just wish fulfillment fantasies where all mares fall for the human, and in most cases you can just swap the human with a gryphon or something if you want to have a non-pony protagonist. But the thing is... I have a soft spot for AiE. I don't know about y'all, maybe you'd joined the fandom as seasoned literature critics and immediately disregarded AiE as childish fancies, but i joined the fandom when i was 15, and it was really fun to read all those AiE greentexts, to laugh and feel even though i didn't understand half of them at the time as i was only learning English. Those memories of scrolling through 4chan and reading Anon in Equestria greentexts on a school computer during IT classes in high school will stay with me forever, along with love for AiE fics.
What do you think? Are there any Anon in Equestria stories you enjoy?
But do you think Diamond would risk Red overhearing that?
What a fucking cute mare. I love her.
I cannot say there are, no.
YAGTH
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They're garbage. Pics like >>39546786 are posted for the purpose of anger.
I like Anon a lot, both as an icon of a bygone era and a nostalgic symbol of /mlp/. But AiE fanfics in most cases are exactly like all the other self-insert HiE, the human is just painted green. AiE treating Anon like a proper character are rarer and a bit of a weird crossover that I don't usually tend to enjoy either, though there have been some Comedy fics with "proper" Anon that I liked.
But more generally I like Anon in all of the less serious forms of pony content, which is pretty much everything but fics. Anon in greentext is of course fine, too. Anon-the-self-insert has no good uses though, unless you're making an interactive HiE media and you want to tailor it specifically to /mlp/'s tastes (which would be commendable).
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Everyday Life With Guardsmares
I Dream of Luna
Those are the only two I can think of. The first one really shouldn't be an AiE story though.
Also pretty much >>39548029 this. It takes a lot to make Anon work in a longer fic. It's just not what Anon's good for.
Diamond is three jugs of alcohol down, hallucinating this pony as being a manifestation of her childhood maybe sexfriend who her mother might have killed, and generally convinced she's above everyone and everything. I don't think she'd give a shit if Red heard her crushing Silver's windpipes. In fact she'd probably be cool with it.
>Moving to a different city is hardly a big deal, is it?
It's a pretty big deal. I haven't read the fic but this sounds like very explicit attempted rape, and it says a lot you don't see it that way.
Eh, fair enough. I maintain that the gut reaction of anyone smart would have been to run away, even if it wouldn't be the objective way.
I can't tell if you're memeing. Is moving cities really that big of a deal to you?
>lose job
>lose house
>lose friends and family
>still not a rape attempt
>Is moving cities really that big of a deal to you?
Tell me your family was well off without telling me your family was well off.
Who is this guy lmao
>want to live somewhere
>go live there
>thing happens
>can no longer live there (where I want to live)
>the smart thing
Good thing it's a fic we're reading and not a r*tionalfic.
Losing your job isn't really all that big of a deal.
Moving to a different house isn't really that big of a deal.
How would moving to a different city make you lose your friends and family?
Joke's on you, I grew up below the poverty line.
I mean, do people really just have a single place they'd possibly consider living in?
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It's just (You) farming now.
>Losing your job isn't really all that big of a deal.
>Moving to a different house isn't really that big of a deal.
It is a big deal when you lose it all in one single move, just because you didn't let yourself be raped. You fucking retard.
>How would moving to a different city make you lose your friends and family?
You lose the proximity and your support network as a result of living away from everyone.
What IS a big deal for you? I would certainly say moving is a big deal and certainly moving cities. I've made 2 city moves in my life and they are both the biggest points of change in my life. Everything around me changed. The people the locations the jobs the school. I can't really fathom that not being a big deal unless you're a real life nomad rapist or something
This. Ponies don't even have the Internet. Silver is on top of that established to not be making that much before the promotion.
How is being forced to move and buy a new place not a big deal when you've just lost your income?
>It is a big deal when you lose it all in one single move
I dunno, I wouldn't really care if I suddenly ended up moving to a different city.
>You lose the proximity and your support network as a result of living away from everyone.
Can't you just write letters?
Things like a real risk of death, losing my savings and property, etc. Or, in my specific case, losing the ability to read or write, but that's fairly specific.
>buy a place
kek.
>kek
This anon lives on the streets.
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>Anon is Diogenes
>losing my savings and property
How is losing your job and moving to a different city not this exactly? I highly doubt she owned property in that city and I doubt she has enough money that losing her income doesn't matter.
>risk of death
That happens in the scene though?
>Just write letters
this has to be a meme, I wish I could stay but I have to go to work in like 15 minutes but this is amazing
lmao (but actually sad)
I don't, but I should consider it. Working's a pain in the dick, and paying rent is annoying.
>How is losing your job and moving to a different city not this exactly?
She might have to dig into her savings, but that's what savings are for, no?
>That happens in the scene though?
Yeah, and I've already conceded that part. Even though I still think she didn't really take her survival seriously.
>this has to be a meme
Anon, I'm pretty sure Equestria has postal services.
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>Anon, I'm pretty sure Equestria has postal services.
dude I'm fucking dying, thank you
>She might have to dig into her savings, but that's what savings are for, no?
Do you think someone who complains about her income, is desperate for a promotion, has rent to keep up with, and relies on her friend for fancy dinners, has enough savings?
You are welcome, I suppose.
Considering you just described me and I have a decent amount of savings, yes.
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I don't know what's better; the fact that you wrote this post, or the possibility that it might actually be serious.
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Hey, /fimfic/, I need to know: If you had an endless supply of semen and you drank as much as you could over time, could you get fat from that?
Based Postal Service. Preventing rape one letter at a time.
Then you don't have a low paying job, and you don't have an apartment somewhere as pricey as Manehattan.
Damn, Rara is THICK
I'm reasonably sure that excess proteins get stored as fat.
I mean, if you live in a place and can't afford to have savings, you're either unemployable as fuck, or live in a shithole. Neither of which apply to Silver.
>Damn, Rara is THICK
Holy shit I just noticed that.
>ignoring reality this hard
Round large marshmallow horse. Would bite and squish.
Kek, I scrolled past that image dozens of time but I never looked close enough.
>>ignoring reality this hard
Oh, I think I get why there's so much confusion now. There's a lot of Americans in this thread. Yeah, that does change the perspective a bit.
I'm not an Ameritard myself but Silver clearly lives in a hypercapitalist shithole.
Hmm, you might be right on that on. Fair enough.
Sometimes I'll be reading a fic I haven't gone back to in many years, and find that I can still recall plot details once I've reached the point in a given story in which they're first relevant or alluded to. It just makes me wonder how I can still remember such details even though I haven't thought about them once in like five years.
Memory is a passive thing. Anything you don't actively forget, your brain remembers.
Maybe I'm just retarded, but it feels like the opposite. Anything I don't actively remember, I forget.
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Memory is a whole science, it's dumb to say it's passive because it can be either active or passive (and that encompasses everything).
Probably, those details were interesting at the time. It's far more strange to read a fic, then read it again later recalling nothing whatsoever as if you had never read it before.
I think your brain is a jerk.
That's how it's supposed to work, roughly. But memory doesn't disappear completely, it fades slowly until you only have faint traces.
When you read the story again, it activates the same old traces again and reinforces them, and suddenly you start to remember a little more. Jogging your memory.
Like an old recording with barely intelligible speech. The recording never disappears completely, it just gets noisier and foggier until most of it is gone. But if you're given the subtitles, suddenly you can make out the words if you listen again.
You cannot actively forget stuff, brain isn't a hard disk with "flag this file deleted and its space open for storage" option.
You can re-associate memories, though, or override them, which is in part how PTSD therapy works.
From the height of knowledge of literally pulling shit out of my ass I say you're wrong and I'm right, and I'm as correct as any other unrepeatable study out there.
You make a good point.
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WHY CANT I DECIDE WHAT TO FUCKING READ NOTHING SEEMS GOOD I HATE CHOICE PARALYSIS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
And it'll happen to G4, too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK5KLazC42s
Read Twilight Sparkle of the Royal Guard.
I've re-watched this goddamn show dozens of times over the 8.5 years (which isn't even as long as a lot of people here) I've been poni ponying. I'm not sure what the odds are of developing a memory-crippling disease are but I'll take my chances on never forgetting the horsey bunch
Right there with you, anon. Or so I hope.
Weak.
I've been obsessing over this show for almost half of my life at this point, I'm pretty sure I'm never forgetting this.
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If you're worried about forgetting about pony just have your brain preserved.
True. Maybe I should just upload my memory to a computer as a backu--Hey, wait a minute!
Read this. Short, exiting and entertaining
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/526305/breath-of-the-nuckelavee
>I've been obsessing over this show for almost half of my life at this point
Neither of those anons, but same. Ponies have "always" been there. It's kind of a surreal feeling.
Fucking zoomers.
Shouldn't you be busy actively forgetting ponies, old man?
I have transcended pony.
Anon, I'm 24. I won't claim it's not zoomer age but thanks to ponies I grew up chasing the internet that was just ending instead of diving into "my" internet.
>he wasn't already terminally online at age 10
Are you even fucking trying?
t. 25
>He waited to 10 to use the internet instead of getting on at 9
U wut?!
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>mfw my brother didn't want me to sit in front of the tv all day
>he stopped me from watching Animal Planet documentaries and taught me how to open an internet browser at age 6
Good sad fic
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/496689/it-wont-be-easy
Lmao. So you actually believe that bullshit.
I remember that one. Pretty good fic and backstory.
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>He doesn't own his internet
Look at this guy!
Look at him and laugh!
Jesus Christ, what a blunder
Did he ever browse the internet with you? Or did he leave you to your own devices after that?
I've got some good memories playing flash games (and co-op/competitive stuff on consoles later on) with my siblings
Yeah, I rank it one of his top 4 worst decisions.
Sadly he was much older than me and had to work, but he did teach me what Google and Yahoo(lol) were and how to look stuff up. The computer was filled with malware by the end of the week.
>It's not rape. She could have just moved hundreds of miles to escape her dubcon partner.
Anon's in so much denial about his rape fetish, he risks spontaneously teleporting in to COPE.
>my biggest complaint is an M-rated fic with the fetish and porn tags that lists its dozen fetishes in the synopsis had tons of porn in it
Definitely one of the strangest criticisms of a fic I've seen.
Shining's Isekai had the same, and it wasn't just porn, so that's why I had hopes this fic would be the same. I thought I made that clear lol.
Also, I'm not in denial about about my rape fetish. Rape is hot. This scene was not, even though it clearly tried to be.
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/530051/mind-if-i-cut-in
another never-coming-back flouncer has come back
the story is ok, but you need to have read the story it's a response to for it to fully make sense
Of all the stupid things Numbers has done, referring to Disney's Pinocchio as "the original" is so mind numbingly dumb that I want to punch him for it.
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>Rape is hot. This scene was not, even though it clearly tried to be.
Welcome to real life rape.
Reality, as usual, is disappointing. More news at 10.
I do hate it when my basic human empathy kicks in and I can't enjoy mindless cruelty anymore. This is why I don't go outside.
Rape is much hotter when you read it from the abuser's POV
Oh no, that's not why the scene wasn't hot. The scene wasn't hot because it was overall pretty boring.
Absolutely disagree. What's the point in that, even?
God that gif always makes me horny for Discord.
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>horny for Discord
I feel like picrel has never been more relevant.
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I get it, man.
Comic Discord canonically slays pussy like a madman.
>Comic
>Canon
They're canon to themselves.
True enough
Oh yeah, I'm halfway through chapter 7 on the secreter fic because I have no self control. Y'all wanna add the chapter to the reading list?
Unless we vote to finish the whole thing.
I'd be down with that tbdesu
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Chekhov's Gun is a stupid extreme, and people spouting this meme all the time have caused too many predictable stories without proper worldbuilding.
chickhov's friend*
Chekhov's gun as a principle is designed around plays and screenplays, where time is more essential, whereas a written piece can have variable length. And it goes deeper than that.
Originally it involves stage plays. Now, the thing stage plays is that the setting is made of props. If you have a gun in the scene, it's going to stand out, because it's an external element you put there. It's a prop the audience will notice.
In a movie, you are free to have a gun in the background, because it's expected the scene you're filming has a fully realised setting and not just a stage with prop. There the advice becomes to not linger unnecessarily with the camera, or to not have characters bring up background details.
Even with all that said, even fucking Ernest "did incalculable damage to English literature by way of far less talented people aping his dry style" Hemingway openly mocked the principle. Chekhov's gun is one of those things that can only be reliably invoked when it's done wrong and to the detriment of the story, the problem is people calling on it on principle even when the random details actually add flavour.
You explained my point better than I was prepared to.
I'll just add that knowing about Chekhov's gun often ruins a lot of movies, because when a camera focuses on a prop, you can almost always predict what its significance is before the "twist".
Let's hear from Filly too.
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Sure, why not.
unless it's product placement
>inb4 product placement to hide an obvious Chekhov's gun.
I'm sure there's at least one eighties movie that does that.
>MFW THE MOUNTAIN DEW VERIFICATION CAN WAS THE MURDER WEAPON ALL ALONG
Been here for years and I still don't know what a futaloo GET is. All I know of is that futaloo is apparently a hentai about pissing someone off so much they destroy your virginity.
Futa Scootaloo.
That's it, we're just obsessed with mare cocks.
I think some guy used to post it when bumping this thread like 9 years ago, and it stuck.
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I believe the point is simply to get repeating digits while posting chickun. The poor Anon doing it isn't super lucky at getting them though.
>The poor Anon doing it
The thread's been doing it for longer than you've been watching ponies, it's not just one Anon. The GET is simply cursed.
Anons*
There's at least two of us.
>gets an abstract get while asking aboout futaloo get
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That's what it is now, but I'm convinced there was more to it in the past, specifically that it used to be a first post bot that would hit MLPG and perhaps other generals, and could be tricked with the many-links-to-next-thread-post format. But I'm not convinced enough to search for it in the hyperindex. The heinessen archive doesn't have /co/ anymore, and it was several years ago, during recaptcha v1.
Were you mistreated as a child for your disability?
I certainly hope so.
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>But I'm not convinced enough to search for it in the hyperindex. The heinessen archive doesn't have /co/ anymore, and it was several years ago, during recaptcha v1.
You know that quote about the expert being unable to think of the idiot's simple solution?
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/futaloo%20get/page/10/
It started in 2014, was only posted to the Fimfiction Thread as far as I could bother to check, and there's enough variation that you can tell it wasn't a bot.
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I'm not sure if the image is weird or I'm retarded, but I never imagined the wingblades like that. In my imagination I always pictured them as a set of smaller blades / razors attached to the wingtips.
Is that pic the general interpretation?
I'm in the same boat as you, filly.
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Wingblades are typically depicted like picrelated, though I always imagined them as blades sticking out from between the feathers.
I'm curious though, was Winningverse responsible for popularising this concept? Was it also responsible for Cloud Kicker constantly showing up in all EqD movies and shorts?
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Many good ponies fit in a small space.
Ah interesting, that's still not quite how I imagined it (your interpretation is closer), but that makes a lot more sense than the old post's.
What is the winningverse, anyway?
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>but that makes a lot more sense than the old post's.
Well, his interpretation is just a crude version of that.
You've never read The Life and Times of a Winning Pony? Give it a go, it's pretty fun until it's not (but by then you're too wrapped up to stop).
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Why are so many people getting registered on fimfiction lately? Are they just bots? What do you need bots for on a mlp fanfiction site? The amount of stories published and blog posts posted had been in decline since 2013-1014 and only recently more or less stabilized, but the amount of new users every month is even bigger than in the most active months of 2013
https://www.fimfiction.net/statistics
*Well, not bigger than in those 2 months in 2013, i mixed up the numbers a bit, but you get my point.
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https://www.fimfiction.net/search/users?q=
They're bots, and there's basically no point to registering bots but they still can so they do.
Are people making bots to boost their own stories? Is that what it takes to succeed?
The great ponyfic conspiracy revealed
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Read the profiles on the page I linked, schizo-kun, they're not that kind of bot registrations.
Some of them are ads (no clue how that would work unless they spam comments, but I haven't seen any), and some are possibly for SEO (blank accounts linking a website in bio), but others have nothing. It's possible.
Looks like they are mostly ads accounts. I wish Knighty wasn't depressed and did something about it, but oh well.
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Spam comments are popular, I've reported some. Spam DMs are also popular. Spam profiles and blog posts are by far the easiest and also the most absolutely worthless.
Anything's possible, that's not a useful or relevant statement. You have to make the case not that it's possible but that it's been done, a further prerequisite of that is that it's worth the effort. Sending updoots is easy to script, but we are pretty sure the heat and feature box algorithm relies on concurrent reader count which may not be doable without a full browser environment.
Anyone with that level of scripting skill should also know that strictly achieving the feature box by itself is unmonetizable and fundamentally worthless. You still have to write something, and it'll be reported if it's spam, all that effort wasted.
It's so much easier to just write feature box bait and wait for it to get featured naturally. That is what Mono is doing.
>It's so much easier to just write feature box bait and wait for it to get featured naturally
No, I'm pretty sure it's much easier to write whatever the fuck you want and let bots boost you.
I don't think the show is old enough for that to be possible and for you to be old enough to post here?
The show began over 12 years ago.
>almost half of my life
>almost
I'm 25 and I've been watching since 2011.
I remember thinking I was a sadist when I was 12. Don't know what changed.
We matured out of being edgy.
Me too. Blades running parallel to wingbones seems top tier retarded.
Tonight I try Shining's Isekai again. Two chapters down.
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Uh huh, that's why I called you schizo-kun. You talk like bots are magic and are behind those you don't like getting an unfair advantage on you, as though you'd need them yourself to "balance" the scales. I'd bet you think I Tunapost with a bot.
The problem with principles is always idiots using them as bludgeon rather than understanding why and how to use them.
Chekhov's Gun, as you've pointed out, does not cover flavor at all - it's strictly for plot-relevant elements. And within reason it is applicable to literature too, if you keep adding details that seem plot-relevant but aren't, it's obnoxious and you're either a hack or a Norse fisherman.
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Chekhov's Gun has been memetically redefined into being synonymous with hamfisted foreshadowing. In context, it literally can't be done well because it is bad by definition. In the past, good foreshadowing could have been called Chekhov's Gun but now it's just good foreshadowing.
>all these assumptions
>calls ME schizo-kun
Bots don't have to be magic, they just have to start staggered boosting through votes and generic comments. It shouldn't be that hard.
Why do you think we've been shitting on the idea?
Because you shit on everything?
should I kill myself before or after publishing my fic?
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During.
Write a bot to do both. Kill you and publish your fic, that is. Just hope it's not buggy.
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>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/466205/book-1-the-behemoth-came-to-canterlot
I'm taking a break now. Except some weird Bon Bon nonsense or Vinyl fic or whatever. I don't know. I've got stuff to write, maybe for once I'll finish it. It'll be weird.
Or maybe I've given myself Stockholm syndrome and I'll begin Book II tomorrow, no idea.
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Mono is literally monetizing the feature box with mare fluff while you shitpost. Every story is a guaranteed hit because it's a top patreon request. Not a bot to be seen anywhere, how does that make you feel?
Fair point.
Like nothing, considering I'm not a writer and I have hundreds of fics in my RIL. Try again.
All I'm saying is it's very possible.
You're right, Mono's followers are too low in intelligence to be compared to modern bots.
Just to clarify for all, we're finishing all of ToD this week for FSSBC.
The story is great and I can recommend it to other anons too.
>Vinyl fic
I like it when fic acronyms sound like words.
And here Death is a somewhat fitting one.
I have finished ToD.
I almost cried.
I will probably have to reread parts of it for the club proper.
>wanted to finish the fic i'm working on this month
>slowly realizing it's not gonna happen
Well, you're certainly not gonna finish it if you keep getting sidetracked, Anon.
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I like AiE, it's ancient board culture, /ptfg/ doesn't like it but it's totally ok, /mlp/ culture is diverse with lots of different tastes, no need for bickering.
As for Anon, I like him, I like his dynamic, I like his big buffy physique interpretations, and I love Anon's portrayal in art.
>medium(10).jpg
>Winningverse responsible for popularising this concept
Most likely, though people were talking about wingblades as far back as Feb 2012, so the concept's been around longer. Might have originated with some fanart or something.
>Cloud Kicker
Definitely, given she never had a "background pony" scene to rocket her into popularity.
Series of fics written by Chenger (and others) centering around Cloud Kicker, her endless fucking relationship drama, and the pegasi's lore.
>it's pretty fun until it's not (but by then you're too wrapped up to stop)
Absolutely flawless summary.
>Knighty never bothered tracking G5
https://www.fimfiction.net/user/559495/ecto
The one real user in the bunch. I also see someone took over Descendant's "walmart greeter" job.
>Nearly half a million users
>Only 621 stories posted last month
Fuuuuck I'm DOOMPOSTING
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Which one of us will run out first?
I got fluffy flashbacks from this.
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Me, most likely. I don't have that many pics of the lesbian whorse saved.
I was bluffing. That was my last one.
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Save more pone, you faggot.
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My pony pictures/webms folder is 9.92GB :(
Just not of Cloud Kicker
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>only barely 10GB
You need more pony.
>Hungarian artist
Yeah, I'm thinking massively based.
Fuck, I kinda wanna reread winning pony now
>reread
I can understand getting baited into reading it once, but knowingly going down that rabbit hole again? You'd be better off reading almost anything else. Like Twilight Sparkle of the Royal Guard.
Or Tower of I haven't been this sad over a piece of media in years.
I enjoyed my first read, all these years ago. I just know I probably wouldn't like it. Yet I'm still tempted given the way it made me feel.
Speaking of TSotRG, I'm actually enjoying my reread so far, which is impressive.
Anon, I'm the one who suggested we finish it this week.
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Hungarian anything is pure cringe.
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>claims superiority
>can't even use his own language
lmaoing at ur life rn
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>>claims superiority
>>can't even use his own language
I can.
>lmaoing at ur life rn
Akkor a kurva anyád.
And yet you haven't finished it yet. Curious.
Why do you have a picture of me?
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How would you know that, anon?
I know many things.
But do you know why yearlings love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
Do you know why you know that you know, anon?
When will the next chapter of asylum be released?
You're giving yearlings Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
Will I finish my fanfic this year?
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Alright, Anon. Given the trends of fanfics for the past five years, I need you to calculate a premise for a fic that will get over 1,000 likes.
Anon, please, do what I never could and let go. Asylum never happened, us reading about it was a part of Twilight's schizo fantasy and she's gotten better since.
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That's not a yearling!
Wait... do you think the Cinamon Toast Crunch is why she went blind?
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A disabled man bests a stranger in a game and is transported to another world. Though he probably should have considered his stats a little more as he ended up as a tree. One with necromantic powers, but a tree nonetheless.
When the stars come right. Which, sidenote, if people read the Mythos more carefully they would know that won't be until around the year 50k.
I believe you have the capability, but only you can complete the act.
HiE with smutty undertones and overtones but no sex about a depressed shithead who mares fawn over in extremely OOC ways, with mediocre humour and a saucy cover picture.
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She is not a mare (adult woman) and she is not a foal (a baby/toddler), therefore she is a yearling (a child).
Yes, I know there's a separate design for "teenagers" in the show. It was used like, once and for the awkward hippie only.
>The Root (and Branch) of Evil
Is this one you're working on, or just an idea?
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>the awkward hippie
that's a funny way of spelling "best pony".
A yearling is a one year old. After that (2-12) she'd be a filly.
She has her cutie mark in that picture and has the body type of a mare, meaning she is most likely a mare. But even if you want to argue she's a filly that's still older than a yearling.
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Neither, jest copy pasted the description of one existing fic meeting his requirements.
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>teenager design
I'm thinking of:
Star Tracker in Once Upon a Zeppelin
Biscuit and Spur in Growing Up is Hard to Do
I actually don't know what awkward hippie you're talking about. Tree Hugger and Wheat Grass are neither awkward nor have the teenager model, the latter isn't in the show. I suspect there are more.
>When the stars come right. Which, sidenote, if people read the Mythos more carefully they would know that won't be until around the year 50k.
>The Mythos is part of the Phenomenon 'verse
>consequently Ancient Ones meet spacefaring, technologically superior even to mi-go humanity
A yearling is between one and two years old in horse years. Horses reach puberty at 12 to 15 months old (but are usually not bred until at least 24 months old). Yearling is a teenager.
There is no single, not sex-specific term for horses 2-4 years old.
>filly
Is equivalent to "girl" rather than "child". Also, a filly is a female horse younger than 4 years.
How the fuck are you more autistic than me. That takes a special kind of brain damage.
In the Mythos, Cthulhu's full awakening wipes out humanity, leaving the Earth to a race of beetles in which the Great Race transmigrates en masse. Coincidentally, his arrival is what wipes out the Great Race's previous hosts. I swear people need to actually read The Shadow Out Of Time.
>jest
You missed a joke. A rather poor one, but it was there - the fic in question was briefly the talk of the thread when it was published.
I know about the fic and I got the first joke. I'm commenting about how tunafag failed to get the second joke.
There's also the grown-up CMC design, but that's also used only once.
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Unless it's about HiE is the root of all evil or something, I definitely don't feel bad about not getting it. And if it is, I still don't, but also if it's not.
It's used a couple of times.
Ponies don't age like horses do. An intelligent species would need more time to reach adulthood.
Ponies reach breeding age at conception. Shining was fucking Flurry's pussy while inside Cadance's womb.
Whenever I publish a fic, I keep hoping that somehow, it'll blow up (or at least get featured). I know it's pretty much never gonna happen, but I keep having that weird hope at the back of my mind.
I save only the finest artworks.
Do it, Anon. I enjoyed the ride too.
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My Celestia and Luna folder is larger than that.
lrn 2 shill
Trust me, anon, I shill quite well. It's just that my writing is niche and shit.
Evidently, you're shit at shilling, because I am yet to acquire knowledge of what your fic is, and all you did is vaguepost, which is the opposite of shilling.
That's because I've already shilled my fics in this thread, and overshilling a fic not only has diminishing returns, but it also can backfire.
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Yes, but judging by what you just posted, my folder is of immensely higher quality.
NTA but that Celly looks like she was stung by a bee or two.
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I can guarantee that it includes everything you have, and many drawings that are just as good but which you are not aware of.
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You think that is bee-stung? Behold: the Serial Bee-Eater Horse!
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I don't see it, but >>39554901 has highly inconsistent snouts and legs. Celestia looks like somebody took a bite out of her jaw (below the left eye).
Anon, I'm trying to say your bar for art is set low. You might have everything I do, but I don't have anything I don't consider at least "really good". Kind of a waste of my time and storage space, given how much solid art we have. I save only my favourites.
Why am I defending my pony art folder in the fanfiction thread anyway
I said a bee or two, not an entire swarm.
>waste of storage space
>in the year of Our Ladies two thousand and twenty-three
>he doesn't have the entire booru saved to protect against any further attempts at bullshit deletions
ngmi
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There aren't /that/ many pictures of them worth saving. I put in a filter of the most egregious stuff on derpibooru and I'm about 44k of 46k pics through the search results of that filter (for Luna). Three folders for them, and it's about 3GB in total with about 4x more pics of Luna than Celestia. My standards are high but not stratospheric like those of that Anon who only wants to see exactly and only the 200 pics of Luna that are reposted here.
This is close to the lowest I'll go, unless it's otherwise particularly interesting or funny, like om nom nom.jpg
Nah, I keep my saved art and stuff on MEGA so I can easily access it from anywhere, and link people whole folders if need be.
However I keep to the same standards for my clop folder, and that one's 21.32GB, so I could probably step it up.
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>My standards are high but not stratospheric like those of that Anon who only wants to see exactly and only the 200 pics of Luna that are reposted here.
My Luna folder has 265 pics in it almost entirely because of you. I've only saved like 50 of them outside of the thread.
>like om nom nom.jpg
Hey I have one like that too
>checks clop folder out of curiosity
>60.7gb
I don't know what I was expecting
>relying on some random stranger to keep your stuff safe
And here I am, not saving any pony pics except my own art, with my only thing of note being a shamefully small 1.4tb anime folder.
I trust a company that's been handling this sort of thing for a decade without fuckups more than I trust my retarded ass. And I can't afford a NAS yet.
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My only saved MLP stuff is from My Little Brony back in the day. I've not saved images for anything in a very long time.
Now that you mention it, I guess I did forget about my reactions folder, but that's only 160 pics totaling 90mb
I don't even own anything that holds more than a terabyte. My main machine is a shit laptop that originally had a 128 GB SSD that I upgraded to 512 GB. It has no hard drive. The only thing that can hold a TB that I own is a shitty Chinese external hard drive.
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I'm halfway through this week's batch of Twilight Sparkle of the Royal Guard.
I like the characters. Specially >pic rel
Captain Haddock is pretty based
He's pretty kino
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Also, centering it on Twilight is a consistent theme outside HiE and looks like it works best if it's related to being an alicorn.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/480844/a-witch-in-broad-daylight
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/457709/twilight-sparkle-has-a-type
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/489381/twilight-takes-a-dna-test
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/472665/the-alicorn-warrior (dead)
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/450229/worshiping-at-the-altar-of-knowledge
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/448810/twilights-nightmare
>Twilight confirmed best
>He snorted as he gripped her breasts even tighter, thrusting deeper and harder into her eager cunny.
>Starlight
>cunny
Took me out of the story. Now I'm limp. Thanks a lot, Inner Lewd.
Starlight can give herself whatever genitals she pleases.
Starlight is neither cute nor funny.
But she is cunning.
Hard disagree.
This mare was raped and abused and is happy about it.
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Hard agree.
>start reading some light and cute romance fic
>starts off pretty great, nothing whatsoever wrong with it, shaping up to be nice and fluffy
>"As soon as she finished her sentence, she extended her hand"
>hand
>...
>check the tags
>EqG
I GOT GOTTEN AND MY RAGE IS IMMEASURABLE
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>He didn't take note of the tags and cover art before the story
It can happen.
I once missed that a story was a crossover.
It led to a lot of anger...
>/fimfic/ failing to read before even opening the story
>cover art
AH YES HOW ENLIGHTENING
>tags
Yes I should have checked them first. But I don't have a habit of doing so because normally the description and cover art generally give me enough info to decide whether to read it or not. If a story sounds interesting, I don't care about the genre, or which characters are in it: I'm either interested or not.
There's only really like one or two tags which are real gotchas, and in 99% of cases the cover art gives it away immediately, and in another 0.99% of cases the description does.
AND KNIGGTY STILL REFUSES TO IMPLEMENT ANY SORT OF TAG FILTERING FUNCTIONALITY WHATSOEVER. I will kill
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>AH YES HOW ENLIGHTENING
forgot pic because I got too angry
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Based image but this is you.
Yes extremely apt actually.
>check Knighty's profile to see if he's had any new blogs
>last seen Dec 27, 2022
Uh-oh.
Have you read Lunar Rebellion yet? It's got all of the pegasi lore and only a small amount of relationship drama. The ending's real shit, though, due to how incredibly anticlimactic it is.
You just reminded me using actual horse years was the most retarded thing Age of Wings and Fire did.
Using horse anything for the ponies is usually retarded.
Giving ponies little horsie flairs can be fun, but always in moderation. It should be limited to moments of body language, and perhaps little tidbits of world building.
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/529410/human-in-equestria-any-speedrun-kill-celestia-ending
I'm not usually one to enjoy crackfics, but this was some gourmet shit. The story weaves in- and out-of-universe narration well, and the "gamification" of the world and characters was absolutely on point. It wasn't lough out loud funny, but it is at least very amusing.
Only complaint I have is that the "some ponies realising this guy is a speedrunner" subplot got dropped harder than a bag of 15 bits, and the ending sequence felt a little off. Still well worth the time, though.
Weird how you can't put spoilers inside quotation marks.
>Lunar Rebellion
That's the first time I've even hearing of it, to be entirely desu with you.
>Giving ponies little horsie flares can be fun
Mares with little horsie flares
Mares with massive horsie flares
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Giving ponies horse stuff is like giving humans ape stuff. Works as flavor or to indicate primalness of a character (see: Tarzan), but if you do too much, you just get an animal.
>You shouldn't have Anon threaten to throw his dung at people.
Yeah, well, that's, like, your opinion, man.
>>You shouldn't have Anon
>>>You shouldn't.
>>>>You
Don't read Shining's Isekai while destroying your teenager chatlogs with girls. It will make it hurt more.
Why do you still have your teenage chat logs with girls?
What about like... it's Broad Daylight but instead of Ranbow Dash it's a human who got isekai'd directly into her house.
That is horrible, and I can see it reaching 1.5k likes if you update consistently.
I still love her. It hurts.
That's what you get, faggot.
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Where is the Rarity isekai?
Rarity isn't that powerful of a mage in Equestria and nerds like Twilight and Moondancer often make fun of her for making clothes instead of practicing witchcraft.
But then, one day, she gets hit by a sonicrainboom and appears on earth! It's a world where everyone wears cloths all the time. And having any magic at all makes you the most OP person alive. Like Rarity is 100% unstoppable. And of course, she immediately gets her own reverse harem.
>And having any magic at all makes you the most OP person alive. Like Rarity is 100% unstoppable
Hard disagree, it depends on your headcanon for unicorn power levels. But honestly for a single unicorn to become unstoppable she'd have to be on the levels of the truly OP characters, like Twilight, Glimmer or Sunset (or an alicorn).
Or be specifically trained and skilled in infiltration and subversion. A mid-level unicorn with mild mind control, camouflage/wallflower spells, scrying spells, disguise spells and some other stuff like that would have an incredible toolkit for influencing the course of history. But tools need a skilled user, not just any random unicorn capable of such spells would be able to function as a competent infiltrator; these spells are quite specialised so Rarity is unlikely to know them unless you headcanon that all unicorns know a huge repertoire of spells (or are capable of creating them on the fly); and finally, even in this case it wouldn't be useful in a direct confrontation.
Some rando dressmaking unicorn going on Earth is like having some random computer nerd going to Equestria and expecting him to single-handedly revolutionise the technology and become world overlord through his digital prowess. No. Rarity would be stronger than normal in a confrontation with civilians, thanks to things like telekinesis, but even TK has limits and it doesn't let her apply unlimited force. She's not known to have a large repertoire of combat nor utility spells. And even if TK is usable for instakilling people by stopping their heart or pulping their brain or something - and even if Rarity were to decide to do this somehow - a sniper she can't see would put an end to that quickly.
A unicorn can only be unstoppable by avoiding confrontation and acting from the shadows, and Rarity simply possesses neither the spells nor the skills nor the personality for this.
Here, read this: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/191973/disco-inferno
>Some rando dressmaking unicorn going on Earth is like having some random computer nerd going to Equestria and expecting him to single-handedly revolutionise the technology and become world overlord through his digital prowess.
Well it is an isekai we're talking about.
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So like... you have no idea what an isekai is?
>camouflage/wallflower spells
Hi Stardust reader!
>a sniper she can't see would put an end to that quickly
Assuming she doesn't have any anti-needle-poke spells that can be empowered into being anti-bullet spells.
Invisibility spells aren't tied to a single fic, Anon.
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this is brilliant! Her anti-puncture ability seems incredibly useless in Equestria, but on Earth is makes her neigh invincible.
We need more stuff like this!
>We need more stuff like this!
No. No anon we need a lot less stuff like this. Unless you write the whole thing in jest.
>you write the whole thing in jest
But how will you catch Jest to endoscope him?
Think of the power fantasy!
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Telling you to get over it won't solve anything. I've been where you are. Hell, last year I had a long relationship end and it fucked me up for months.
But it's never going to stop hurting if you keep clinging to the past.
Get rid of the things that remind you of her and focus on other stuff. Focus on your goals. Work, studies, your fanfics, whatever. Focus on yourself.
And she can use her clothing powers to wear multiple suicide vests!
Why else do you think I'm deleting them?
Somehow I glossed over, like, the most important bit of the post I'm replying to. Shit.
>Hi Stardust reader!
Got me
>Assuming she doesn't have any anti-needle-poke spells that can be empowered into being anti-bullet spells.
That goes right back into the claim that any random unicorn should somehow be capable of powerful combat spells. Having it be an empowered anti-puncture spell makes it slightly more convenient than having to maintain a good old shield bubble over yourself at all times, but only slightly: presumably you'd still have to maintain the anti-puncture spell, and making it powerful enough to stop a high-caliber anti-material round should still be draining enough as to be implausible to maintain 24/7 (including during sleep, for example).
Of course this is moot due to being an isekai, but just replying hypothetically since we're now discussing real unicorn powers accidentally.
I find Shining's Isekai tough to review. All that I can say with confidence is that it hits emotional parts of me that few other fics hit. I'm not sure what those parts are. Does anyone know that feeling?
If we're discussing real unicorn powers, Rarity would be unable to do it.
Twilight, however, absolutely WOULD. She took Rarity's signature spell that only worked on a tiny spot of a cave wall once, thought about it for mere seconds, and amplified it into a version that spanned the entire cavern.
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Disgust? Gag reflex?
Well yeah, Twilight, Glimmer and Sunset are three unicorns that I singled out as probably being capable of actually being OP when alone on Earth.
Actually I'm not sure about Sunset because we have, like, zero canon indication of her power level. I'm realising now I'm extrapolating from most fics I've read with her, which all extrapolate from her being Celestia's former student and thus assume she had talent on par with the highest unicorns around, like Twilight. So probably. No solid proof, though.
But yeah Twilight is probably the most unambiguous candidate for being an OP magic user - especially if forma de alicorna.
So that's where she got the idea for an anti-puncture spell.
No. Not disgust at all. It hits somewhere personal.
>now implying Rarity is capable of spellcrafting
>>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/529410/human-in-equestria-any-speedrun-kill-celestia-ending
You know what I checked it out and I agree. A decent light read. A couple of times it came just a bit too close to being too heavy-handed and corny with its jokes, but it stopped shy of getting actually annoying for me. It also came close to overstaying its welcome - as there's only so much you can do with the humor of the premise without overstretching the joke - but again I don't think it did. In the end it ended up being an enjoyable and amusing read throughout. I agree that it weaved the in and out of universe narration excellently, using this to successfully execute on a concept that could easily have turned out to be unreadable cringe garbage if not done just right.
I also absolutely hate when authors write Pinkie Pie by introducing her and having her immediately launch into a run-on sentence that just keeps going on and on and oh wow Pinkie is so hyper and guys look at this she's still talking and there's some words are CAPITALISED for almost NO REASON but I can't write and all I know about Pinkie is that she's hyper so I'm writing her HYPER and look guys she's so in-character isn't she? So I really appreciate how this story lampshades this by turning it into a gimmick in the game itself, makes into an actual thing the speedrunner has to deal with, and adds an Easter Egg too.
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>I also absolutely hate when authors write Pinkie Pie by introducing her and having her immediately launch into a run-on sentence that just keeps going on and on and oh wow Pinkie is so hyper and guys look at this she's still talking and there's some words are CAPITALISED for almost NO REASON
Are you excited cause I'm excited I've never been so excited WELL...
We see Sunset being OP in the comics, for what that's worth. Off the top of my head, in the series we get
>Back when I was Princess Celestia's student, I learned best by going out into the field and actually doing something. Studying ancient books is fine for some people, but I like to solve magical mysteries by rolling up my sleeves and getting my hooves... uh, hands dirty.
But not much else that I can recall now.
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If you're quick enough you can read all of ToD by Sunday and join us there.
Figured it out. I emphasise with Twilight's negative self image.
*empathise
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Reminds me of how much I fucking hate the word "emphatic". You'd think it means something "has empathy", but nooo... That's "empathetic".
It's not even just an ESL woe, I'm pretty sure I've seen it misused by more than one EFL as well.
You're emphatic if you have emphathy
Empathic is correct though!
Emphatic is indeed about emphasis, but empathic is about empathy.
The empathetic/empathic/empathy trio has a weird etymology, but it's apparently supposed to be a parallel to sympathetic/sympathic/sympathy
Weird nobody posted this here
>sympathic
Oh wait, I'm being told that word doesn't actually exist in English. I am now more confused than when I started about what the etymology is supposed to be... what is wrong with English, actually.
Better than using "defiantly" in place of "definitely".
>what is wrong with English, actually.
What isn't wrong with it?
No one posts the fimfic writeoffs either, and this thingy will have likely have both green and Anon aplenty.
This is most definitely an ESL woe
This isn't even a case of homophones or weird suffixes that sound like each other, the word's roots are literally totally different, both in spelling and in sound. If you're writing a word with PH and think it's about emPathy that's a you problem
This is a case of English being dogshit if you're used to any other language.
No not really, I'm not aware of many languages just randomly mangling word roots when constructing related words.
I'm not aware of any language throwing together letters without reason and associating sounds to them at random.
"emphatic" is a distinct enough word, but the default adjective from "empathy" should really just be "empathic". Apparently it's an accepted alternative spelling but "empathetic" is just dumb lol.
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>"empathetic" is just dumb
Would you call it... pathetic?
It's not random. The issue with English is that it keeps the original spelling for most loan words. If you can guess whether a word is Latin, Greek, French, or Germanic/Old English in origin, and you have a vague idea of how phonetics and word construction work in those languages, you can usually figure out the correct spelling, or at least get pretty close.
The issue is that it keeps original spelling AND original pronunciation. There would not be an issue if it changed either of them, but it does not.
Dudu dudu du du du dududu
Yeah except for the part when one fucking idiot decided to throw in random letters to make the words closer to their originals, going against their phonetics in the language itself, and in the process got some origins wrong so what you said doesn't even apply.
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BRB writing an epic million word saga about Crackle. And yes there will be explicit sex scenes, a war subplot, and a magic school.
Unironically please do.
Now I'm wondering if anyone was ever autistic enough to do Caesar's Rome but ponies.
>Caesar's Rome
>not Crackle's Rome
>Rarity isekai
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/397663/back-and-there-again
For a programmer to be OP in a Isekai, the Evil Overlord's magical construct/undead army would have to run on spells that work like a programming language. He would use advanced programming techniques to subvert and destroy his forces. (for example)
How would Rarity's skill set (Gemfinding, fashion sense, well-coordinated telekinesis) make her unstoppable? It would all be up to the author.
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>well-coordinated telekinesis
What is it they say about prestidigitation? I think there are many manuals on how to break it.
She can also poof any item into another item that she thinks looks better, as well as conjure trinkets into existence.
The Immortal Game and Archmage are two fics that have given Rarity a really high level of capability. I also particularly liked the scenes in To Perytonia where she shows off her magical prowess.
It depends somewhat on the author, but there's tons of good material said author could pull from, for such an endeavor. Rarity is a really great unicorn if you are not wanting to deal with godlike powerlevels. One of the reasons I was so disappointed in Mortal Coil...
>what is wrong with English, actually
Multiple invasions from countries with completely different languages.
If you're talking about ph = f, that's a Latin thing. The Romans didn't have a corresponding letter for the Greek phi, so they used ph instead when copy/pasting the words over. Hence why the etymology of "emphasis" is Latin > Greek.
Nearly the same exact thing happened with the thorn. Printing presses didn't have the letter, so "th" was substituted instead.
I didn't get to write a lot today, but I did manage to find a better way to approach my story and thought of a--hopefully--better ending.
I hope your writing goes well!
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> The president of the United States of America got the alarm. The alien alert alarm.
>In his campaign, he promised to 'destroy all aliens'. While he didn't mean visitors form other planets, he felt he should also destroy all of them as well less he go back on his campaign promises. What kind of weak, beta president didn't do EVERYTHING he promised the voters?
"Hmph!" The president of the United States of America turned his nose up at the sight of this alien. Tiny. Pathetic. 'Cute'. Beta to the point it was unironically female. But at least she was white. "I don't have a lot of time to waste with alien scum. Secretary of the state! Send in Seal Team 6 to obliterate this nuisance."
>The president of the United States of America sat down on the oval office desk, putting on a bib as he prepared to dine on some lobster.
"Mr. President," aid the secretary of state. "We don't yet know what this illegal alien is capable of."
"It hardly matters!" The president of the United States of America grabbed his knife and fork. "Seal Team 6 are the most powerful humans on the planet. All of them rate minimum 600 on the HPM scale. Each one of them is the power equivalent of 10,000 terrorists or 50,000 Russians. And their squad leader is stronger than all the others combined. No one has ever survived against them."
"Yes, indeed," said the slimy vice president as he gave a little bow. "Anyone… or pony… who thinks they can fight against Seal Team 6 must be out of their mind. Why, I'd be impressed if she lasts even two seconds against the weakest member."
"A splendid idea!" The president of the United States of America stabbed into his lobster. "Send the weakest of them in first. I'll take your bet."
>All of them covered their mouths and laughed.
>Rarity looked about the unfamiliar landscape, wondering where she was.
>A strange flying device flew over head and from it jumped 20 odd, bipedal creatures equipped with heavy armor… though strangely it seemed to be mostly cloth.
>Each one of them landed, slamming their fists into the ground to create a small crater.
"Oh, hello there!" Rarity called out to them. "Are you the welcoming committee? I would love to know where exactly this strange place is."
"Oh, you can say we're the welcoming committee." One of them smirked.
>Behind them all of the others laughed. All of them except one who sat all aloof off to the side, index finger pressed against his forehead. That guy was Tim.
"I don't think I quite get the joke," said Rarity.
>One of them stepped forward, cracking his knuckles and neck as he looked down at the unicorn in the most condescending way imaginable.
"Heh!" He cocked a smile and looked back at his fellow marines. "I guess she doesn't realize just how tough us Seal Team 6 guys really are!"
>The rest of seal team 6 laughed hysterically. The president of the United States of America also laughed.
"I guess it's time to welcome you to Earth, alien scum!" Seal Team 6 guy charged straight at Rarity, fist raised high, screaming all the way.
>Rarity could only raise her eyebrow at such a barbaric display.
>She was the weakest unicorn back home, but even she felt like she could deal with a non-magical attack like this. What was he even playing at.
"Alright! If you're going to be like that you ruffian!"
>She used her magic to find one of the threads on his body armor and gave it a little tug.
>Just like that, the entire upper half of his gettups was disassembled, torn to vortex of threads and fibers that surrounded him. Seal Team 6 guy staggered forward in slow motion.
"What?!" Back in the white house, The president of the United States of America, slammed his fists onto the table. "But that is the finest human body armor! There is NO WAY anyone could damage it! No force in any of the United States of America is capable of doing such a thing! HOW IS THIS HAPPENING?!"
>Tim opened his eyes and turned toward Rarity.
>The threads clamped back down on him, now forming a series of restraints. The seal team 6 guy struggled but not even his max level strength could break out from Rarity's reinforced grip! He started to turn purple, realizing that if she squeezed any tighter, his bones would begin to snap.
>She pulled one of the threads and used it to spin him around in the air ever more rapidly. Then she slammed him straight through a brick wall.
>It was an OHKO. NO ONE had ever OHKO'd a seal team 6 member before.
>The remaining members of seal team 6 did their own reaction shot in turn. All of them stunned, shocked and afraid. All of them… except Tim who put the tips of his fingers together and whispered 'interesting'.
>The president of the United States of America dropped his knife and fork, gawking non-stop.
"What?" Rarity looked at them, equally surprised. "You aren't all impressed by THAT measly little trick, are you?"
https://youtu.be/7uBqNgxAuBA?t=39
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Are there any fics about Cadance feeling like she got replaced by Twilight?
That would be hypocritical.
>She can also poof any item into another item that she thinks looks better, as well as conjure trinkets into existence.
You what? She did cut those tree leaves into the shape of ponies, but it's a huge leap to say "ANY item into another item". There's no evidence to support that, if anything there's evidence against it, since she was so excited to have a magical book that would let her do exactly that.
When has she ever conjured a trinket?
Yeah, that homewrecking bitch.
Are there any fics about Cadance being jealous Shining fucks Twilight's pussy more than hers after her ascension?
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How come you haven't been featured yet?
I have been many times. My next fix might be too.
Because I refuse to write HIE, Displacement, Crossovers, and other shit that has not business on that website.
>don't write gay romance
>don't write fetish stories
>don't write HiE wish fulfillment
>don't write EqG
>don't write later seasons or G5
The easiest way to never get featured.
But copeanon, the feature box right now features only one fic with only one of those things! Two fics, if mythology counts for a crossover.
>HIE
>has not business on that website.
But I have.
Obviously my demoralization wasn't aimed at you.
When the hell did MrNumbers start writing again? Did he detrans or something?
Did he ever stop?
I thought he did for awhile to go full lefty-tranny.
Doesn't sound like that takes up much time. I thought he started posting to some website he made and kept reposting to fimfiction anyway for views, then removed the link from his stories.
>for awhile
It's either "for a while" or just "awhile".
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I like HiE and I would like to read a good wish fulfillment power fantasy.
I don't even bother with the feature box when you can just check the new collum once a day. Not like there's hundreds being released in that time
I only know two good HiE fics off the top of my head and one has the human as a pony.
>human as a pony
Enough about ponies on Earth and humans as ponies in Equestria, where are the ponies as humans on Earth fics?
I'm writing one. Also yes I know Anthropology. Shut.
But why would ponies be humans on Earth?
Magic displacement bullshit. Ask the talking goat.
As for the meta reason: fun.
Me too, got any recs?
Shining's Isekai
Maybe you guys should start a general for discussing greens. I'm only half joking.
For one, my writing is shit. For two, it's none of the popular stuff.
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/500819/shining-armors-isekai-adventure-but-from-celestias-point-of-view-and-skipping-a-lot-because-thats-how-these-things-seem-to-go-in-light-novels-so-thats-how-it-goes-here-also-shining-is-a-cuck-but-not-really-and-is-this-even-shining-im-not-sure
It's quite a short fic. Only about 30k. It's got mature tags but only a chapter or two qualify as actual porn and you won't be able to fap to any of it. The fic is allegedly focused on Shining, but I think Celestia's slow realisation that she was wrong about Twilight is the (emotional?) core of the fic. There are several such scenes, e.g. the scene where Celestia begs Shining to tell her that he needed to abuse Twilight, when she finds out Twilight adores her, when she finds out that Twilight thinks she finds her disgusting, her slowly realising the original timeline's path, or her realising that the Mane 6 did almost everything that Twilight shares the credit for. I think that those scenes are all that I'll remember the fic for. They pluck at the right emotional strings, so I have to give the fic credit for that. I can't call it a great fic, but it certainly did those well. As for what it did wrong, there are two big things. The first is that Luna's dialogue is much harder to read than she usually is in fics. The second is that the fic timeskips over a point that the fic has spent most of its chapters building up to. We skip right from the moment where Shining's victory or defeat is only a few days away from being determined, all the way to what ought to be the epilogue. I appreciate the final few chapter's attempts to show how much of a monster Shining is and I like the general mystery over what he actually is, but that mystery never gets resolved from Celestia's PoV and Twilight is so much the fic's focus that it's hard to care about Shining. Overall, I could maybe recommend it to those who want to read about abused children, but I think you'd be better off with an actual book for that. I think Cathy Glass is popular?
>Seal Team 6 are the most powerful humans on the planet. All of them rate minimum 600 on the HPM scale. Each one of them is the power equivalent of 10,000 terrorists or 50,000 Russians. And their squad leader is stronger than all the others combined. No one has ever survived against them."
I don't write to market
>You won't be able to fap to it
I beg to differ.
>and you won't be able to fap to any of it.
I mean, that Luna bondage chapter...
>Luna's dialogue is much harder to read than she usually is in fics
Because it's actually done properly. As for the rest, cope and seethe.
Read ToD.
If you can fap to under 5000 words, then you confuse me.
>The first is that Luna's dialogue is much harder to read than she usually is in fics.
Interesting, I think it was the general consensus that the fics does old-English quite well compared to the usual ye olde stuff.
>We skip right from the moment where Shining's victory or defeat is only a few days away from being determined, all the way to what ought to be the epilogue.
See, I had a problem with this as well, though not quite for the reason you did. Similarly to you, I also considered this a story mostly about how Cellie copes with Twiggles. And the fact that it was completely kicked in the side and replaced with a much different plot really took me out. I lost immersion after the skip.
>I like the general mystery over what he actually is, but that mystery never gets resolved from Celestia's PoV and Twilight
Hmm, this in particular didn't bother me. For all intents and purposes, Shining is a monster. It doesn't really matter that "in reality" he is just a degenerate weeb, even if Sunhorse knew that, it'd still be all the same.
No, I only get recs from this thread, and nobody here discusses HiE in a positive light. Pirene is the only one that gets recommended, and even with that there's some psycho who insists that this fic about Humans in Equestria isn't HiE.
If it's hot enough, I'll fap to a paragraph. In fact I have, many times, to captions in the description of clop images. And when I fap to a fic, I usually tend to find like one specific point which hits juuust right and just focus on that.
A fic being longer just gives more opportunity for the right moment to arise, at the tradeoff that there's generally more non-fappable fluff to get past. Technically it can also let a fic get multiple scenes which are really hot, but that's very very rare.
Shining being such a completely over-the-top monster really detracts from the satire for me. It feels like it loses a lot of its punch by going so overboard, possibly to the point of outright failing.
See >>39560657 and >>39560660
>Shining being such a completely over-the-top monster really detracts from the satire for me
Have you ever read Isekai, anon? Shining is fucking tame compared to some of the shit in the genre.
What fucking isekai do you read where the person getting isekai'd is some mad psychopath
What do I care? I'm going to hell anyway.
Anon. You have no idea. The genre is a shitshow. There's a whole subgenre about characters getting reincarnated as babies while keeping their intelligence, about them manipulating their whole life while in that position sometimes grooming their perfect partner from a young age and often with sexualised depictions of lactation. The stuff you hear about as an outsider is a fraction of a fraction, because it passes through two layers of filtering and adaptation, and even then you get shit like The Rise of grooms a loli and has a bitch raped Hero. The drecks of content you can see if you look into it are staggering. Hell, even just one of the examples the writer brought up in the comments is fucked. If anything Shining has stronger morals than the average Isekai protagonist, at least he knows he's fucked up and a coomer.
>you won't be able to fap to any of it
every. single. chapter.
I think the isekai subgenre gets a distorted rep because most people only vaguely know isekai anime. For all the moral panic there is around some series, the ones that get turned into an anime are largely the more palatable ones.
he was never trans, but he did encourage troonery in his cult followers, as a way to isolate them from their friends.
>I thought he started posting to some website he made
he was posting to offprint for a while and even became a mod there, but he's not been active for months. it's obvious he's just running back to what's familiar. same with mono. his one saving grace is that he's a technically proficient writer.
Normies will never know about Castle-nim.
Fair enough. I only ever hear of isekai anime really.
>See, I had a problem with this as well, though not quite for the reason you did.
Having read your review, I think you put it better than I did. I wanted to praise the Shining vs Celestia sections, but the timeskip ruins that entire element of the story.
Bad anon. Low brainpower.
I believe the reasoning was that once Shining got to Celly and tweaked her settings or whatever, he'd already won. Everything afterwards is just a long epilogue about his victory and the horrid legacy he left in Equestria.
That doesn't happen until after Twilight ascends which was what the fic was building to.
>which was what the fic was building to
It was not really. And what is there to show? The moment is irrelevant. You're shown what comes before up to the point of Luna's realisation, and you're shown the consequences. It would be utterly pointless to show the moment, and the fic avoids it just as it avoids all Twilight's achievements, because you have already seen the show.
A major theme of the fic was Shining's worry that he's taken Twilight off the path of her destiny. The whole point of the bet was to force Shining to set her right.
Yes, and the whole point of the scene with Luna and Celestia is to show that he succeeded (possibly with Celestia's help even if she doesn't realise it). Reread their conversation after the Crystal Empire debacle is solved and think back to what Twilight is canonically the princess of.
These are the only ones I could stomach. All the rest is guilty pleasure wish fulfilment
>Luna's Return Trajectory (dead?)
>Gilded Sister (dead?)
>Onto The Pony Planet (dead?)
>Celestia Sleeps In
>The Tale of Lord Barleycorn
>Pirene
>Arrow 18
>Stardust
>What a Strange Little Colt
>The Best of All Possible Worlds
>An Academic Visit
>The Last Human
>Biblical Monsters
So I read HiE, crucify me you fucking faggots
>All the rest is guilty pleasure wish fulfilment
Send it bro >>39560334
Scary Monster series by Cackling Moron. He did this annoying thing where he made it into like several separate stories when they could easily be chapters within a single story. It makes it a bitch to read in order.
That's the only one I enjoyed, really. Even if it is wish fulfillment, bad writing completely turns me off, and in HiE that's incredibly common.
Also, append What Remains Of The Chaos King to the good HiE list. It's a nice characterization of Discord.
>crucify me
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/530246/threatenin-carolin
>mono still posting on fimfic, more than a year after she flounced
>still hasn't updated TEC in all that time
it's okay. not great, not terrible. a steaming pile of adequacy.
She literally did though.
>she flounced
And made a blog saying she's back.
she's only back to advertise her website and shill her freelance writing career
all the flouncers and muh nutsee whiners are coming back. they need fimfic more than it needed them.
It does mean I'm taking them off the list.
mono isn't even a nutsee whiner mind you
when she left she said she just couldn't handle fame and wanted a quiet corner again
I'll give her a quiet corner in my basement.
It's not on Fimfic but The The Rise of Darth Vulcan is an edgy HiE power fantasy that I rather enjoyed, you can find it on AO3.
Anyone baking?
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She conjured a bunch of stuff in the finale of Suited for Success, unless you ignore Pinkie (which you should) and headcanon it as illusions (which you should). She conjures her lounge often enough, and she pulls a tremendous amount of stuff out of hammerspace in nearly every episode she appears in. Usually hair brushes and mirrors, but a magnifying glass or two have appeared on occasion. It Isn't the Mane Thing About You, Campfire Tales and Rarity Investigates, to name some examples. There's also a suspiciously endless and unfilling amount of ice cream in several episodes.
The properties of the fabric in Twilight's birthday dress were definitely modified when she was assembling it into a dress in Sweet and Elite. She also transforms the taxi wheel from broken to fixed in Rarity Takes Manehattan. So yeah, I think she can poof anything, but the cursed spellbook just increased the range of how far the transformation magic can be pushed.
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https://recipesbycarina.com/pancake-recipe/
Fine, I'll do it.