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Title: How Red is China?
Author: Terry Kelliher
In: Salient. An Organ of Student Opinion at Victoria University College, Wellington N.Z. Vol. 21, No. 2. March 27, 1958
Publication details: Victoria University of Wellington Students' Association, 27 March 1958, Wellington
Salient. An Organ of Student Opinion at Victoria University College, Wellington N.Z. Vol. 21, No. 2. March 27, 1958
China is probably the world's greatest enigma. Is Mao's Government really red or is it just pink? Is China really a Communist nation or is it merely the product of a resurrection of patriotism and nationalism? Is there religious freedom in China? Are there any Capitalists left? Are the people happy? These are just a few of the hundred and one questions that spring to our minds when we think of the new China. In the light of these queries let us examine what information (or propaganda, perhaps) which correspondents, tourists, delegations and the like have brought back to us from the land of Mao. Then we can endeavour to weigh the pros and cons.
A "Look" writer and photographer last year became the first U.S. news team to visit China since the Chinese Revolution. They reached seven conclusions, the first being that the regime is firmly in the siddle and could be overthrown by nothing short of a major war of conquest. Secondly, they concluded that China is not a Soviet satellite, and has a far broader base of popular support than any other Communist government including that of the Soviet Union. Thirdly, they fould that all opposition had either been liquidated or won over to the regime. Fourthly, they discovered that living standards, though still low, are rising steadily. Fifthly, they found little genuine anti-Western feeling despite anti-Western propaganda, and, sixthly, they concluded that China's biggest problem is its birthrate.
The seventh finding is of particular importance. They discovered many detestable features of the regime which point to rigid police control. There was evidence of brutality and arbitrariness, regimentation, brainwashing, monotony, oppressive puritanical morality and lying propaganda about the outside world. This finding is in keeping with other reports from China. For example, the Peking "People's Daily" revealed in July that more than 81,000 so-called counter-revolutionaries had been "dealt with" by law in a campaign launched in 1955. The most prominent of these was the writer Hu Feng who, so far as is known, has never had a trial and is still in prison. But this is only a drop in the ocean. A special United Nations sub-committee has estimated that fifteen million people have been executed by the regime since it came to power and that between twenty-five and thirty million have been sent to slave labour camps.


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Rates Rewarding Energy Hogs?
by admin · February 5, 2015
PALMDALE – Antelope Valley residents testified Thursday at two California Public Utilities Commission hearings that they don't want to pay more for electricity, with most saying that a proposed rate change would penalize people who tried to conserve while rewarding "energy hogs."
Palmdale resident Kathleen Franze, who said she and her husband are paying a $150 monthly lease for solar panels on their home and likely would lose money if the proposal is adopted, charged that the rates are being redesigned to make it less likely homeowners will install solar panels to cover their electrical use.
"It's to bribe them not to go solar," Franze told California Public Utilities Commission Administrative Law Judge Julie Halligan. "We're providing the grid with clean energy, and we are being penalized."
Retired electrician Steve Chisolm said he and his family have taken steps in recent years to conserve energy, but the electric rates they pay would go up under the proposed changes.
"I feel like me and my family have got 'stupid' written across our foreheads," Chisolm said. "I think that this is unfair to me and my family for being as energy-conscious as we have been."
But an Antelope Valley Board of Trade representative said the restructured residential rates would benefit the Antelope Valley, because so much electricity is used here in the summer for air conditioning, driving usage into the highest-price categories regardless of household income.
"It's hot here. We use our air conditioners a lot here in the summer," Antelope Valley Board of Trade executive director Vicki Medina told the judge. "The Antelope Valley, we're bearing the load. High usage is not necessarily the rich and low usage is not necessarily the poor."
Mary Maddox of Palmdale said her family has reduced its electricity use and doesn't even have a garbage disposal, but its usage still rises into the most costly category, and a recent bill topped $600.
She suggested raising rates for swimming pool owners or those whose homes exceed 3,000 or 4,000 square feet in floor space.
"There's so many houses bigger than ours that would make you so much money you would not have to penalize me," Maddox said.
Resident Becky Mansfield said the proposal reminded her of the 1970s, when people were urged to conserve, then found their rates increased: "We've done all these energy-efficient things and now you're going to raise our rates. Where does it stop?"
Johnathon Ervin of the Antelope Valley Community Alliance said outside the hearing the restructured rates reward "energy hogs." He also criticized a proposed monthly fee, intended to pay for fixed costs that are the same for every Edison customer regardless of electricity usage. The fee is proposed to go from 93 cents a month to $10 a month, or $5 for lower-income customers.
He also said proposed "time-of-use" charges, which would add a surcharge to electricity used in late afternoons and early evenings, would hit Valley residents just as they get home from commutes.
"We don't want to live our lives around when we can use electricity," he said. "What we don't need is a rate design where it's going to punish people who are conserving."
The judge, who with Administrative Law Judge Jeanne M. McKinney will make a recommendation to the five-member California Public Utilities Commission, told the 120 people at the afternoon hearing in Palmdale City Council Chambers: "We have a lot to consider as we look at this case."
At issue is a decision, expected to come in time for new rates next summer, on a rate restructuring proposal that is described as the most far-reaching in years and which would undo many of the changes put in place after California's 2000-01 "energy crisis."
At present, Antelope Valley residents pay for electricity usage in "tiered rates," in which prices increase as electrical usage increases. The lower tier rates were frozen in 2001 and began going up only in 2010, California Public Utilities Commission officials say.
The proposed rate-structure changes are described as "revenue neutral" – meaning they won't increase the profits of Edison or California's other investor-owned utilities, though they will mean low-using customers will pay more while high-using customers pay less.
As of January, before a recent price increase, Southern California Edison's top rate for residential electricity charges was 30.4 cents per kilowatt-hour, while the bottom or baseline rate was 13.2 cents, with two intermediate rates, or tiers, between them at 16.5 cents and 27.4 cents.
One proposal submitted to the Public Utilities Commission would lower the top charge to 19.5 cents and raise the bottom charge to 16.2 cents by 2018, with no intermediate tiers.
In addition, a monthly charge that is now 94 cents, regardless of usage, would increase to $10 by 2017.
Under a state program that gives discounts to lower-income households, the top rate as of January was 20 cents a kilowatt-hour and the baseline rate 8.8 cents. One proposal is to lower the top low-income rate to 13.6 cents and raise the baseline rate to 11.4 cents, with a $5 monthly charge.
No statistics are available on how many Antelope Valley households' electricity usage rises into the top tier.
However, Edison officials say a sizeable proportion of Palmdale and Lancaster households are part of the California Alternate Rates for Energy, or CARE, program for lower-income households.
While about 32% of Edison customers are part of the CARE program, about 45% of Palmdale households are on the program, and 42% in Lancaster.
The CARE program, which will be retained under the proposed new rate structure, gives a 30% to 35% discount for households whose incomes are less than twice the federal poverty level, based on a sliding scale according to family size. The low-income threshold is $47,700 a year for a family of four.
Public Utilities Commission officials said Assembly Bill 327, passed by state lawmakers in 2013, lifted a cap on lower-tier rates, permits the commission to implement "time-of-use" rates and allows the monthly fixed charge of up to $10.
Because of the restrictions imposed in 2001, Edison officials said, about one-quarter of their customers have been paying for most of the investments made to improve reliability and transition to cleaner sources of energy.
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Painting & Sculpture
William Charles Penn RP ROI
Canvas size:
23.622 x 19.685 inches (60×50 cm)
Liverpool Academy of Arts
William Charles Penn was a painter and influential teacher at Liverpool School of Art, 1911-post World War II. He was born in London and studied at Lambeth and City and Guilds Schools of Art from 1895, winning medals and a scholarship to Royal Academy Schools, 1900-05.
He subsequently studied at the Académie Julian in Paris in 1908 and the following year in the Netherlands and Belgium. As well as being a member of Sandon Studios Society and Liverpool Academy, he belonged to the Royal Society of Oil Painters from 1908 and the Royal Society of Portrait Painters from 1952. He also exhibited with the RA for many years, the Royal Glasgow Institute of the Fine Arts and in Liverpool Autumn Exhibitions.
Walker Art Gallery in Liverpool holds several examples.
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My life, under the microscope...: studio, oh!
To say that the last week and a half or so has been busy would be the understatement of the year. It's been nuts, but unfortunately not with creating artwork. This week is slightly better, but not much. Thankfully I did get some drawing time today.
The good news is the studio is re-assembled, and different, and better (and the whole room is painted and re-arranged). The drafting table and chair are in the same place. I cleaned and organized all the supply drawers. ALL pencils are now stored in the wooden drawers to the left of the table (rather than on the table itself, which worked for small stuff but had gotten inconvenient). I bought an easel. I haven't painted yet but I like it already, and it's very compact (A.R. this takes up only 2x2 feet of floor space, just fyi!). I moved a bookcase in here so all my horse/bird/art reference books are right there, and I finished the shelves that had been in the barn. The odd looking canvas covered box-like thing is the set of shelves. I don't know who made it but I inherited it and finished it and now I can store paper and artwork up to 29x33 inches. A cheap version of flat files, and the canvas just keeps the dust out (and gives the cats something to play under apparently).
Oh, and I know someone will wonder, so YES, when I paint there will be a dropcloth on the floor! :-) And NO I don't do drawings on the easel, the Aseel drawing just happens to be sitting there since I was looking at it and thinking about what to do.


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For the past few years, New England's star receiver has been letting his beard grow throughout the season.
"I'm not going down that road", Edelman said.
And, though he probably would have been perfectly willing to discuss his post-Super Bowl plans - going to Disney World and then stopping by the Grammys to present an award - Edelman declined to discuss the circumstances surrounding his suspension during an interview with Peter King. And my mother, being the loving little lady that she is, I was never late to a practice, she was always there. "So this is like a full-family kind of win", he said. She took care of me for a long time.
It was a thing of dreams for any little one - here are just some of the things that were at Stormi world. They threw a bash for their one-year-old daughter over the weekend that was pure #LifeGoals.
Edelman became to first-ever Jewish player to get the MVP. The Patriots won 13-3.
From winning the NFC West title for a second year in a row to proving this team is built to compete in the NFC for years to come, the Rams have plenty to be proud of from his past season, even if they came up short in Super Bowl 53 against the Patriots. "I have to shower after I eat". Ellen shaved it off.


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Tasmania's independent economic regulator has released a damning report into the performance of the state's new regional water corporations.
The review looked into the service, quality, reliability and pricing across Tasmania's urban water and sewerage industry last financial year.
It found around four per cent of the population connected to a water supply network received drinking water that did not meet safe standards.
The review also found 71 wastewater treatment plants were polluting rivers and coastal waters with effluent containing more than the recommended levels of organic loads and faecal bacteria.
The Chairman of the independent regulator Glenn Appleyard says it is going to take time and money to make improvements.
"This is the first year 2009/10 in which the corporations have been responsible for the water and sewerage industry," he said.
"Whilst in a sense it's disappointing to report the standard of the outcomes, nonetheless, they have made some progress from the previous arrangements which were in existence."
The Premier Lara Giddings says years of under investment in infrastructure is to blame and the system had to change.
"This is critical reform for the benefit of the wider Tasmanian community," she said.
The regulator also found the three water corporations are not financially sustainable at the current levels of revenue.


If you are looking for a way to downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7, this post will be able to throw some light on the subject. The article talks about restoring a previous Windows installation – Windows 7 or Windows Vista – on a computer currently running Windows 8, and also about the downgrade rights that Microsoft offers.
Not all products include downgrade rights. But Microsoft has enumerated "Downgrade Rights" for Windows 8, that allow users to downgrade from Windows 8 Pro to Windows 7 Professional or Windows Vista Business, until they are ready to move to the more recent version. The following OEM versions of Windows software are eligible for downgrade rights.
There are no downgrade rights for retail versions of Windows 8. If you upgraded to Windows 8 using a retail version of Windows 8, you have to reinstall Windows 7 by using the recovery or installation media.
If you use an OEM Windows 8, then downgrade rights apply to only Windows 8 Pro and you will be able to downgrade to Windows 7 Pro or Windows Vista Business.
Volume Licensing will however allow you to downgrade to Windows 7 Pro, Windows Vista Business, Windows XP Pro, Windows 2000 Pro and even Windows 95 / 98/ NT.
Purchase a PC preinstalled with Windows software.
Accept the End User Software License Terms.
Perform the downgrade or authorize a third-party to perform it on their behalf.
Turn off UEFI Secure Boot, if required. Change the settings so that the computer starts in legacy BIOS mode.
Now you need to insert the Windows 7 licensed version disk and follow the installation process, and if you're planning to restore the previous Windows installation by using the Windows.old folder then you could follow this post on how to restore a Windows 7 computer to a previous Windows installation by using the Windows.old folder.
The important thing you have to remember is that, at the time of activation, you will not be able to activate it online, you can only activate the software over the phone. Follow this post on how to activate Windows over a phone. Use the Windows 8 license key to activate Windows 7 over the phone. The local Activation Support phone number will be displayed and you will be required to call the Activation Support Line. The Microsoft representative will give you a single-use activation code that you can use to activate Windows 7.
If your OEM has pre-injected the product key for Windows 7 Professional on your PC, install Windows 7 Professional by using the recovery media. Alternatively, you may install Windows 7 Professional by using a genuine copy of the installation media. Your system will activate automatically by using the product key that was injected into the BIOS.
If your OEM has not injected your product key into the BIOS on your PC, then insert the installation media for Windows 7 and follow the on-screen instructions. Type the Windows 7 license key when asked and activate it as usual.
There is one more thing you should know before you downgrade. If you have downgraded from a pre-installed Windows 8 PC with Windows 7 PC, make sure you obtain the relevant drivers. Because according to the Microsoft downgrade rights agreement, in case you opt to downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7, neither Microsoft nor the PC manufacturer will be obliged to provide customer product support. This means you are on your own, so make sure you gather all the necessary drivers, Product keys etc. before you start the process.
For further information you can visit Microsoft's website.
Microsoft has made things difficult. A better option would be to go for a clean install of Windows 7.
A little tip: 7/8 drivers are cross compatible for the most part, much in the way Vista/7 were. The difference, however, is that the Vista/7 driver compatibility was nearly 100%. THe majority of 8 drivers will work on 7, but you may run into quirks.
Example: For testing purposes, I installed Windows 7 on a Dell XPS 12. All the drivers installed just fine, and everything worked, but the touchscreen driver was ever-so-slightly not working right. It installed, registered touches, but it would never, ever calibrate correctly. Half the screen would not register touches, the other half was off by a few inches. If you try to calibrate, you can't finish because it's not registering that other half of the screen's touches. Of course this is a result of using an 8 driver on 7, but given the nature of the device(multitouch digitizer), it's not surprising. More basic device like the audio, LAN, wifi, video, will work like a charm with 8 drivers in Win7, if no *official* 7 drivers are available.
If you're going the desktop or regular laptop route, don't fret. You should be good to go.
Thanks for the useful tip, Andrew.
You should be able to downgrade without any issue and use the same drivers on the website of the manufacturer that are normally compatible with Vista and Windows 7. My only suggestion is to really buy a complete installation CD with Windows 7 and perform a fresh installation after having (of course) saved your data.
How did you get win7 to detect the HDD?
Gates hasn't worked at Microsoft for years, so you really can't blame him. This article describes how to install Windows 7 with your Windows 8 key, so no one is forcing you to stick with Windows 8.
You know what? You should definitely stick with Apple.
I couldn't agree more. He pulled another 'Vista" debacle on us after redeeming himself with win 7. Bill Gates is the Antichrist. I hate Windows 8.


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In a world of obscene inequality we like to think things are getting better and, in some areas, things are indeed improving – literacy, girl's education, vaccines, ARVs etc. But when it comes to the basics – power and money, same old, same old – the poor lose, the rich win.
Tucked away in the kind of report only insomniac development fundamentalists would read we find what at first sight appears to be a misprint. A report by the Secretary General of the UN to the General Assembly at its 65th session on July 30th, 2010 ('Item 18(b) )' of the provisional agenda, Macroeconomic Policy Questions) entitled International Financial System and Development notes that developing countries as a group continued to provide net financial resources to developed countries in 2009, amounting to $US513 billion! Surely this could not be true – the Poor World transferred $US513 billion to the Rich World? In one year? Alas, it was not a typo but a statement of fact.
However, in case anyone gets jumpy at the downturn, the Secretary General's Report went on to note that such 'transfers' were expected to revert to previous levels with an '…expected increase in outward resource transfer from developing countries in 2010'. The estimated figure for 2010 was $US641.2 billion.
The even more interesting Annex to the Report calculated the yearly net transfer to developed economies from developing economies from 1998 to 2010 (estimate) which amounted to a staggering $US5740.6 billion.
And we wonder why the poor stay poor!
Note: these, and similar issues, will be further reviewed and debated in the forthcoming 6th edition of 80:20 Development in an Unequal World, scheduled for publication in March 2012 by 80:20 Educating and Acting for a Better World and the University of South Africa Press.


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Q: Generalized difference-in-differences where all units are treated, but at a different intensity Is it possible to run a generalized difference-in-differences analysis where all units are treated, but at a different intensity?
In my situation, a policy was introduced in 5 countries, designed to alter the consumption of antibiotics. Antibiotics are divided into 4 groups based on their potential benefit and resistance profile. Those in group 1 should be freely prescribed, group 2 should be moderately prescribed, and group 3 should be restricted. In group 4, antibiotics are not named, but this last group contains any product that is therefore not prioritized for use.
I have quarterly data for ~150 antibiotics at multiple points pre- and post-introduction of the policy. So after time $T$, when the policy is introduced, I can interact the policy variable (=1 from introduction and 0 otherwise), with the group variable (categorical, 1-4). But this will not leave me with any untreated units after the policy introduction.
Am I restricted to a pre/post non-causal design?

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Is it possible to run a generalized difference-in-differences analysis where all units are treated, but at a different intensity?

In general, the generalized difference-in-differences approach requires you to observe a subset of units never exposed to treatment. That being said, it is possible to identify treatment effects even if all entities become exposed to a policy, but the adopters must have different post-treatment phases. Identification is then based upon variation in treatment timing. But as per your comments, the timing of the policy is standardized, and so you cannot exploit the variation present in staggered adoption settings.
Alternatively, it is also possible to subdivide units into different 'intensity groupings' (e.g., high versus low), but then I'd suggest forcing the low intensity treatment group to be your reference.

In my situation, a policy was introduced, designed to alter the consumption of antibiotics. Antibiotics are divided into 4 groups based on their potential benefit and resistance profile.

The policy is introduced at the country level but it affects all countries, and at precisely the same time. According to your comments, you don't observe any non-adopter countries. By design, you cannot exploit any variation at this level. All the action is within each country, where antibiotic consumption may vary by batch.

So after time $T$, when the policy is introduced, I can interact the policy variable (=1 from introduction and 0 otherwise), with the group variable (categorical, 1-4).

You can actually use the classical difference-in-difference estimator to simplify your estimation strategy. I addressed a similar concern here, where multiple treatment groups were observed and each group was exposed to treatment at the same time. Simply interact each categorical group with a post-treatment indicator.
In your setting, however, you lack a suitable control group. To achieve something estimable, you'd have to make some ad hoc decision about which category to use as a reference. Suppose you dropped the group where antibiotics are "freely prescribed" to the population. Does the "freely prescribed" group serve as a suitable counterfactual for your other groups? This might be hard to sell.

Am I restricted to a pre/post non-causal design?

Possibly.
However after reading your comments, I am left with more and more questions that I don't think I can adequately address here. I am not quite sure you can proceed with the generalized difference-in-differences estimator, even though it is amenable to a multivalued policy variable. Your comments indicate you include both country and quarter fixed effects. I don't see how this is appropriate unless you acquired quarterly consumption data on countries never espousing the policy. Treatment is not well-defined at this higher level of aggregation.
As for the treatment itself, I would expect the moderately prescribed batch of antibiotics to be consumed more than the "restricted" batch. It seems obvious that consumption is related to how much a product is prescribed to the general population. Is this your goal? And, is consumption your only outcome measure? I should probably leave it up to you to address the mechanism(s) at work.

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Does anybody know, if there are any plans to offer another Adult Advance Space Academy (one week) in 2018?
That's a good question since I was hoping to do an Adult Camp in 2018! I'd rather do the week long one honestly.
Speaking of which, what is the difference between the week long vs shorter ones?
Some difference are: Longer missions and more of them. Your longest mission is at least 6 hours and sometimes 12. Also, in the week long academy, the scuba training is included. There is usually a tour of Marshall Space Flight Center, but you must be an American citizen for that one, although the non-citizens said that they got a great alternate activity when I went in 2015. Sometimes they offer the "With and Astronaut" track for the week-long adult academy for an extra fee. You get a real astronaut as one of your trainers. We had 2 such teams. One got Hoot Gibson and mine got Bob Springer. I think that the most important difference is that the longer time allows you to form better bonds with your teammates and friendships that last beyond the camp. I have had return trips with some of the friends I made and I participate in discussions with them here and on the Alumni Space Camp Facebook page. I will be seeing some of them at the Alumni Summer Fest in a month. I am really looking forward to that.
I called Space Camp and inquired about a week long adult program for 2018. I was told the 2018 schedule has not come out yet, but should be ready within a month or so. At that point we should know if there will be one.
blachwk wrote: I called Space Camp and inquired about a week long adult program for 2018. I was told the 2018 schedule has not come out yet, but should be ready within a month or so. At that point we should know if there will be one.
Their 2018 fiscal year starts 10/1. End of July or so is a pretty tight window for anything this October.
BTW, I asked a couple of months ago about Train With An Astro. This is the response I received: "As of right now we do not have any plans to offer the "Train with an Astronaut" option this year or in the immediate future."
Did you seen that registration for adult camps is open, now?
I saw that there were two Advanced Space Academy programs, one for 1.349 $ and one for 1.199 $. It is the same date (Sept. 24). Do you know the difference between this two programs?
Feuerfresser wrote: Did you seen that registration for adult camps is open, now?
Hmmm...that difference in price seems a bit low for the Train With an Astronaut vs Train Like an Astronaut. As I remember, in 2015 the difference was closer to $250. Maybe it's with or without scuba? Or maybe they scaled down the "With an astronaut" part so it's only two or three days with an astronaut instead of the full week?
I was at 'Hoot Camp' last year (Bob Springer was there, too) and there was only one team. I think that's why they're not doing it this year.
It worked out great for those of us there as we had Hoot around often (and got to hang with him every night at the bar at the Marriott) and that alone made it worth the cost.
I must admit after 7 days, I was actually looking forward to a real hotel bed and being alone the following day on a road trip to Florida to see my parents afterward. I don't think I'd want to do a program longer than 7 days if I'm staying in the HAB.
I can't imagine I'll be able to get back to SC next year and I'm not going this year (as I'm saving up what few days off I get for a long European trip next spring), but if I could ever get back for another 1-week program, I'd go for sure.
I gave them a call and they told me, that the cheaper one is a student program.
I really don't understand the registration form of space camp. If you are looking for the program you can see the date 24th of september 2018. At the phone they told me, this was they date until when I have to be registered?!?!
And there are two Adult Advanced Space Academy Weeks: starting at 1st of october and 12th of november.
But I really don't know, where at the online registration, I have to choose between this two weeks.
I sent an E-Mail to Space Camp - it's really confusing to me.
Feuerfresser wrote: And there are two Adult Advanced Space Academy Weeks: starting at 1st of october and 12th of november.
1 October and 12 November 2018 are both Saturdays, which is odd as adult week long camps have run Sunday-Friday in the past. I wonder if they are making a change to the program...which would probably mean that many people would travel on a Friday rather than a Saturday or if someone was actually using a 2017 calendar when they set the dates.
In my scheduler these dates are mondays, what makes me much more confused, because the woman at the phone told me that they are don't starting at mondays.
This is what USSRC told me back in April regarding Train With An Astro: As of right now we do not have any plans to offer the "Train with an Astronaut" option this year or in the immediate future.
Feuerfresser wrote: In my scheduler these dates are mondays, what makes me much more confused, because the woman at the phone told me that they are don't starting at mondays.
And it turns out my two sided work reference calendar is from last year, so 2016/2017 not this year 2017/2018. My bad. Sorry for any confusion.
It would be a change for weeklong camps to start on Mondays.
Ok so trying to plan things out for 2018 (and beyond) for myself. Having taken my daughter to family space camp in June/July 2017, do you recommend doing Adult Space Academy (shortened or week long) first then try doing the Adult Advanced Space Academy next? I guess what I am trying to ask is what is the 'proper' order of doing things? (Since I technically did a space camp once already). Although I know Adult vs Family are 2 different camps and scenarios altogether, etc.
blachwk wrote: Ok so trying to plan things out for 2018 (and beyond) for myself. ... I guess what I am trying to ask is what is the 'proper' order of doing things?
I don't think that there is a "proper order" for camps. Both times I've been to adult weeklong camp, we've had rookies who have never been to any camp program before and it has not been an issue. I've only ever done week long camps as I have a hard time justifying buying an expensive plane ticket for just a weekend trip. I also think that I would be disappointed in a weekend camp having done the weeklong ones before. But that's just me. I can see the argument than any trip to camp is better than no trip to camp and I know that not everyone can afford (time, money, both) the week long.
My advice is, if you can afford it, do the weeklong camp.
Now if only we could get an adult robotics camp or a hybrid space/robotics camp. That's what I'd really like to do.
gt0163c wrote: My advice is, if you can afford it, do the weeklong camp.
I'd love to do an adult robotics camp or even an adult version of the cyber security camp. (or some type of hybrid).
Meanwhile I agree any camp would be great. Just wasn't sure if it was best to do the adult space academy first and then do the advanced space academy.
If you did the week-long camp as a kid I think you could be disappointed with the abbreviated weekend Adult SA camp, as it won't include everything you may expect, since it's less than half the length. If you can make it work, I'd definitely recommend the week-long Adult ASA camp.
The big question: who is going to Space Camp this year?
SpaceCanada wrote: The big question: who is going to Space Camp this year?
Nor I. My wife and I spent three weeks in the UK/Europe in May, so that expended all the time off (and a lot of money) for this year in regard to going anywhere fun. We didn't see anything space related (even though our hotel in London was within walking distance of the Science museum where the Apollo 10 capsule is housed, we were doing other stuff each day when that was open, darn it).
That said, I turn 50 next year and my wife has offered to let me pick a (domestic) trip in 2019. That leaves me a lot of options, and near the top of the list would be a trip to Tennessee and then a 3-day adult Camp at either end of it.


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Offshore Teesside ~ A Potential GDF Location
In a recent article we highlighted the move towards offshore geological disposal. The next search process for a UK GDF has extended the available offshore strip from 5 to 20km. We noted there that it is quite possible that an onshore GDF has simply become undeliverable anywhere in the UK. That article also suggested that given what we know about the unsuitability of Cumbria's onshore geology, any future search process in Cumbria should be confined to the newly-extended 20km offshore strip of Copeland, within tunnelling distance from Sellafield.
In this article we will examine an alternative offshore site in eastern England, under the North Sea off Teesside. The remarkable aspect of this option is that rather than costing £10-20bn to develop, it could potentially be developed at zero cost to UK taxpayers. The key to this is the value of the extracted spoil which significantly exceeds the extraction cost. Any viable commercial mine should have this relationship between mineral value and extraction cost. However we can instantly dismiss the majority of UK commercial mines – the presence of coal is an exclusion criterion for a GDF, since the risk of intrusion into the facility by a future generation is considered too great. In this case there are two mineral resources – a polyhalite seam at around 1500m depth, and a halite (salt) seam at around 1350m.
The mineral extraction rights for this area are currently owned by Sirius Minerals. They plan to extract the polyhalite containing potassium, magnesium, sulphur and calcium for use as a fertiliser. The shallower salt seam could be used for road de-icing. The void left after extracting these minerals may have potential as a GDF. Evaporites including salt are generally considered to be a suitable host rock for a GDF in part due to the property of keeping water away from the repository. It also exhibits 'salt creep', where the salt deforms gradually over time due to its plastic nature. While this is a negative attribute for the purposes of salt mining, it could be beneficial for a GDF in closing fractures created by the extraction process and forming a seal around the waste.
The US operate a GDF within a salt mine in New Mexico, although as we have reported in previous posts, some exceptionally poor working practices, involving the accidental use of organic cat litter to absorb moisture, led to a barrel of waste rupturing in 2014 and an extended closure of the facility. A recent analysis by the Los Angeles Times has estimated the cost of this mistake at $2bn This happened less than a fortnight after a poorly-maintained 29 year old truck had caught fire within the same facility. However, these are not reasons to avoid salt as a host rock, they are reasons to ensure that corners are not cut with staffing, training or equipment in whichever rock type a GDF is constructed.
There are a number of complications with this Teesside plan which would have to be overcome for it to succeed:
1. The geology would have to be proven suitable. In the late 1980s the British Geological Survey (BGS) studied mainland UK for Nirex and identified Teesside as a potentially suitable area for a repository. Professor Stuart Haszeldine of Edinburgh University supports this view. Significantly, as Professor Haszeldine has made clear, the groundwater flow does not return to the surface, due to the impermeable salt layer which was formed by the evaporation of a sea.
Slide from a talk given by Professor Haszeldine in November 2012. The map shows the areas identified as potentially suitable for a repository by the BGS. The illustrations compare problematic groundwater flow found in onshore Cumbria with suitable groundwater flow in offshore Teesside.
2. The onshore part of the licence area is within the North York Moors National Park. National Parks have some of the highest level of planning and environmental protection in the UK. The Park Authority is widely considered to have made the wrong decision when it approved the mine by the narrowest of margins in July 2015. Sirius Minerals managed to get around the usual National Park planning rules forbidding major development, since the only place where the polyhalite seam exists onshore in the UK is within the National Park, and it was therefore able to claim that there were no alternative sites available in the UK. That route around the planning rules could not be used for a GDF, since there are many alternative sites outside National Parks, as Nirex found. Any GDF would have to be entirely offshore to keep it well outside the Park boundary, since National Parks (along with AONBs) are the most treasured parts of our countryside and this is entirely incompatible with siting a GDF. Approximately two thirds of the mineral licence area is offshore so this should be achievable.
The yellow outline is the mineral licence area owned by Sirius Minerals. In addition to the recent onshore boreholes, 4 historic offshore boreholes shown here as red triangles also intersected this polyhalite seam, including one beyond the licence area.
3. The two seams are at approximate depths of 1350m and 1500m, which is below the 1000m level envisaged in the White Paper, but while this may necessitate greater spacing between higher activity (heat generating) wastes to avoid excessive heat building up, there appears to be no shortage of mine area, and of course with the value of the extracted mineral exceeding extraction costs (by a factor of around 5 for polyhalite in the company's projections), that shouldn't add to the cost, even if as seems likely, the company has been somewhat optimistic.
4. The community would have to agree for this to go ahead. This is often a major hurdle and experience shows that communities which are distant from nuclear facilities are less likely to accept a GDF. Sirius has approval for a large Mineral Handling and Harbour Facility on Teesside connected to the mine by a 23 mile tunnel. This facility is well outside of the National Park and around 2 miles from Hartlepool Nuclear Power Station, which is due to begin decommissioning in 2024 with the anticipated loss of around 700 jobs. It is possible that the wider power station site could be redeveloped into surface facilities for an offshore GDF, and a tunnel entrance could be located there on what is already a nuclear licenced site which currently houses some nuclear waste. This is also close to the Teesside Steelworks, the majority of which closed in 2015 with substantial job losses. This is a heavily industrialised area in need of new jobs.
5. Sirius Minerals would have to agree to this joint venture. At present they are in the process of raising funds for the first phase of this project. Shareholders are paying a very high price in terms of equity dilution, bond interest, and royalty sales in order to secure this early stage funding, since this is rightly considered to be a high risk venture with risk of delay and cost overrun. The value of the company has halved over the last month since the announcement of these funding terms. A government partner with access to 10 year funding at around 1.5% would transform the project. If the company were to reject the idea, the government could choose to develop its own combined offshore mine/GDF facility adjacent to the licence area, so there are good reasons on both sides to work towards a joint venture.
As with any GDF project, getting this right would be a challenge. The primary focus must be the geology. The UK in particular appears to place far too much reliance on untested and untestable (over a relevant time frame) engineered barriers. These barriers must only be used to complement good geology. We need to prevent fluid and gas migration to the surface for around a million years and only good geology has a proven track record of being able to do that.
While we have suggested that the newly-extended strip of offshore Copeland may have potential, RWM must broaden its horizons and recognise that after so many failed attempts, there are other locations beyond Cumbria which must be considered. Other countries have succeeded in attracting more than one volunteer area, so it should be possible here.
Examining and comparing the suitability of a number of locations gives the best chance of finding and securing a suitable site, and reduces the danger that a government with no plan B will be tempted to press ahead despite poor geology.
If the use of this particular mine turns out not to be possible, due to political, geological or corporate difficulties, offshore Teesside still shows great potential and RWM must ensure that it makes an effort to engage with the Teesside community to investigate this area. The idea of combining a GDF with a commercial mine must be seriously considered, as it has the potential to reduce or even cover the cost of building the GDF, while creating more jobs than a GDF alone.


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Supporting indigenous Guatemalan women in their struggle for their water
In the mountains of Northwestern Guatemala, near the border with Mexico, the land is rich and fertile. Several important rivers and many other water sources feed the soil.
The residents of these mountains, many indigenous women of Mayan descent, have long depended on the waters to nourish them, to provide them with fish, and to keep crops alive.
But life here in the microregion of Ixquisis, in the department of Huehuetenango, has changed drastically in recent years. Several large dams have been constructed in the watershed, including the Pojom II and San Andrés dams, both of which were financed by a private lending arm of the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB).
The dams have caused water scarcity and the contamination of rivers long cherished by the communities. Fish are no longer abundant, and stomach and skin diseases have become commonplace. The women have been the most impacted—the river is where they gather, wash themselves and their clothes, and begin to prepare food to feed their families.
The near lack of water has also drastically reduced harvests, lessening the income gained from selling corn, wheat, beans, coffee, sugar cane and other products in the market. As a result, the conditions of poverty in the area have deepened.
What's more, the people of Ixquisis no longer feel safe in their communities. Women, particularly, are afraid to walk alone. Dam workers often intimidate and stigmatize them. As defenders of the natural world, they live in fear of retaliation—be it against themselves, their husbands or their children.
Despite the risks, the women play an important role in their communities' opposition to the hydroelectric mega-projects. As guardians of their land and water, they have come to its defense and they'll continue speaking out to prevent environmental deterioration from further harming their families.
What AIDA is doing:
Making visible the damage that the dams' implementation is causing to the women of Ixquisis, and promoting capacity building to enable the community defense of natural resources.
Demonstrating, through an amicus brief submitted to the Supreme Court of Guatemala, the international environmental and human rights obligations that the government has and must enforce to protect the communities affected by the Pojom II dam.
Presenting a complaint before the accountability mechanism of the IDB to investigate whether or not the financial institution complied with its own social and environmental standards when investing in the two hydroelectric projects.
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Conserving the Ciénaga Grande de Santa Marta
Protecting the Santurban Páramo from mining's damages
Supporting Cajamarca's fight to defend its territory from mining
Holding Brazil accountable for the Belo Monte Dam
Saving the San Pedro Mezquital River from a destructive large dam
Capacity Building, Human Rights, Indigenous Rights | 30 January 2019
How supporting women is linked to environmental justice
At AIDA, we recognize that combating inequalities and differentiated harms is fundamental to achieving environmental justice in Latin America.read more
Indigenous Rights, Large Dams | 2 August 2018
Guatemalan indigenous communities file complaint for dams' damages
Affected communities have called on the Inter-American Development Bank to withdraw funding for the Pojom II and San Andrés dams for failure to comply with its operational policies. The mega-projects...read more
Freshwater Sources, Human Rights, Indigenous Rights | 27 July 2018
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I thought I would be nice to you especially because you paid for this hotel room. You have also been very cooperative and understanding about all this even though I plan to torture your testicles.
Some one at work has stolen my credit card and I want to find out whom. I thought the best way to go about this is to Interrogate some of my coworkers. I will ask you questions and while I ballbust you. You will stand and face me while I carry out moderately painful kicks to your testicles. Constantly kicking you is a good idea because the pain will make it harder for you to make up lies. This means you are more likely to tell the truth as lies often need explaining. Which will be hard when you are taking kicks to your testicles every 10 seconds or so. It is a harsh but fair way to question a man.
I will expect you to stand and take these while I question you and if I don't like an answer or think you are not telling the truth I will intensify the kicks. This will mean more pain inflicted and more testicle damage caused. I will continue to kick you at the harder level until I am happy with your answer.
If harder kicks are not enough then I will place your testicles on a wooden block and I will stand on them. I am sure the pain of me balancing on your balls will make you tell the truth. The longer I stay on them the more pain you feel, also after a good crush they will be very sore and probably bleeding inside. I have never been one to shy away from destructive punishment and today am no exception.
But then if you change your story and I am happy with your answer we won't stop the torture. We will go back to moderate kicking instead. Telling the truth and cooperating will not prevent pain but only mean you feel less. After crushing your balls kicking them will be hell for you so you better be honest with me. I have quite a few questions so you better be able to last though it all.
I hope you understand that I have to be cruel to get the answers so I make no promise that both your testicles will be intact when I have finished.
So then would you like to have a drink with me? Then I will tie your hands behind you back and we can begin the interrogation.


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GUNS N' ROSES - DISCUSSION & NEWS
MAIN GUNS N' ROSES
Time to let go?
By W. Axl Kev,
October 21, 2020 in GUNS N' ROSES - DISCUSSION & NEWS
W. Axl Kev 49
W. Axl Kev
SUPER GOD
Location:Manhattan, New York
I pose a question to the forum: is it time to let go?
Disclaimer: I absolutely anticipate this will be merged or swept into another topic because it doesn't contain a new piece of info but this part of the forum is called "Discussion & News"
I joined this forum in 2005 at the same time as @Axl_morris because we were obsessed with the mythology of GN'R; who Axl was, where he's been and what comes next with this amazing rock band. 15 years later, I've seen them 8 times (on both sides of the Atlantic), I've arrived at a record store for opening for Chinese Democracy, I've flown my girlfriend to North Carolina to see them, I've bought merchandise, I got some lyrics from Locomotive tattooed on my ribs (9 years ago when I was younger, in my defense) and I've been here for every leak, rumor, new photograph, fake photographs and my all time favorite moment; when a forum member claimed he was hiding under a desk at Geffen Records secretly recording 'IRS' which resulted in a forum member driving for 6 hours to buy the recording, only for it to all be a scam. Hilarious.
Those of us still here wish our lives away over more new music, leaks (Cock-a-roach soup, anyone?), more tours, raspier voice, Steven Adler, Matt Sorum, Izzy Stradlin and, Lord save me, Robin Finck.
Few fans of few bands have ever had so much fun chasing the pursuit of happiness with a group. I'd argue bands who have more albums (Metallica, Aerosmith etc) have burned out rather than stood out. We follow a group who have confused us, frustrated us, let us down, "wowed" us but ultimately always left us wanting more. Maybe that's good enough? Maybe we reflect on how great this has all been rather than all living as if a new album and tour will come out next month and we'll continue this journey from 1995.
Again, I expect this to be swept into another thread but this isn't a "general musing", it's a topic for debate (which is what forums are all about, right?).
Is it time to let this go? Would love to hear your thoughts.
DTJ80 7 posts
allwaystired 5 posts
W. Axl Kev 4 posts
EvanG 4 posts
I pose a question to the forum: is it time to let go? Disclaimer: I absolutely anticipate this will be merged or swept into another topic because it doesn't contain a new piece of info but this p
Yeah I just post here out of habit too now. I really don't give a fuck about GnR anymore, at this point.
cineater
So nobody ever told us baby How it was gonna be So what'll happen to us baby Guess we'll have to wait and see
ZoSoRose 8,984
ZoSoRose
MYGNR Int. Tone Championship Grand Prix Champion 2015
I like posting here out of habit. For better or worse, this place has been a huge part of my life for almost half of it (yikes)
rocknroll41 2,394
Edited October 21, 2020 by rocknroll41
Subtle Signs 1,362
Subtle Signs
GN'R EDUCATOR(TM)
Let go of what? Who is forcing us to be here or to be big fans? I feel like a broken record but until someone shows that GnR no longer owe the label any albums, I'll continue to believe that new music is coming. If they never release another song, they'll still be my favorite band. I will see them again as well when they tour which I doubt will be next year so hopefully 2022.
Edited October 21, 2020 by Subtle Signs
Gordon Comstock 5,448
Gordon Comstock
I stopped expecting a new album, and good live performances, a while ago. They're still my favourite band because of the back catalogue and I've enjoyed the shows I've been to, and of course if there is a new album (or leaks) I'll listen to it a thousand times, but I've lost interest in this touring machine. I still enjoy this forum, but the band isn't really the reason I still visit here...
5 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:
For clarity, I'm not referring to the forum. I love this forum. I'm talking about what we expect from the band. Everyone is very good at scaling back and saying "I don't care very much anyway" but we all do. My question pertains to whether we need to accept that we've seen the best of this band and perhaps its time we manage our own expectations?
1 minute ago, W. Axl Kev said:
Yea, we've definitely seen the best from the band. I've been saying since the reunion happened that if people expect new music to be on the same level as AFD and UYI, they deserve to be disappointed. That doesn't mean they can't make a good album though, and hopefully they'll surprise me and actually release a new album, but I'm not waiting for one. I still listen to the 2019 leaks regularly, though.
FuriousStyles 773
FuriousStyles
My man, enjoy the memories you have. Enjoy the music they gave us.
Worrying about new music is like a Toronto Maple Leafs fan worrying about the Stanley Cup - it's nothing to worry about at all (bad joke).
cineater 1,260
So nobody ever told us baby
How it was gonna be
So what'll happen to us baby
Guess we'll have to wait and see
DeadSlash 723
DeadSlash
It's a strange concept to me. You like the music, or you don't. Let go of what exactly? Just decide we don't like the band anymore? Does it work like that for anyone? "Oh, you still like Welcome to the Jungle? Pfft, I decided not to like GnR anymore last fall."
Maybe while I'm at it I'll decide I don't sex anymore, because reasons. "You still bang? Pfft, I just decided I like my hand better than a cooter. I 'Let pussy go."
moreblack 1,969
moreblack
I joined in what? '02? '03? it's kind of an old habit now. Where else am I gonna get my periscope links when the band gigs? Letting go is a choice. That's all on the individual.
Edited October 21, 2020 by moreblack
mikeman5150 260
mikeman5150
2 hours ago, W. Axl Kev said:
I totally get what you're saying. I think clearly the best are behind them for a number of reasons. Technology has changed, which gives us a front row ticket to almost every live show . That's watered it down a bit. Then there's not near as much mystique around this band and specifically "woke" Axl as once was. Plus we're all older and in different parts of our life. To me nothing beats the excitement of the Hammerstein in 06' the vibe around the band was so good then. Then 2010 was great because Axl still sounded amazing and brought back a more classic look. We thought they were finally going to work Chinese on the live cicuit and then move on, they didn't . 2011-2014 was still exciting to me and I was able to catch quite a few shows, but as I was approaching 30, the front row or bust attitude I had in my 20's was starting to fade.
The 2016 reunion was super exciting, it was confirmation for what many of us used to argue with our friends, if Axl and Slash got back together, it would be the biggest event of the summer. Indeed it was. But due to the crazy prices, the over saturation, and disintegrating performances, it did get a bit boring and predictable. So yeah the best is definitely behind them and us as far as how much we'd enjoy it, at least for me. GNR will always be a part of my life, just not as important as it was during my teens and 20's.
At this point, I can't imagine anything they could do that would change that for me.
DieselDaisy 17,699
DieselDaisy
The band ended in 1993. Enjoy them how one would enjoy The Beatles or Elvis, i.e., you are still in possession of the old albums.
WhazUp 4,018
WhazUp
I saw GNR in 2016 twice, freshly reunited with Axl in fine vocal form, and Steven Adler on drums for a couple of tunes. At this point I am sort of making my peace with that being the best GNR experience I probably will ever have - and man was it kickass so I am content with that
At this point beyond more of the same old touring with occasional random bursts of deep cuts brought out for a couple of shows, I am not expecting anything. If a new album ever comes I will probably find my fandom reignited but I am not expecting it anymore nor am I holding by break for one
Edited October 21, 2020 by WhazUp
jamillos 1,791
jamillos
Location:ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
25 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:
... and pro-shot bootlegs, it's all about the bootlegs.
Sorry - I don't agree with that. I think the end might be nigh but the band didn't end in 1993. They've released a live album, a Greatest Hits and a new album since then. My point is more along the lines of 'there's probably nothing next', and that's fine.
Edited October 21, 2020 by W. Axl Kev
DTJ80 1,020
DTJ80
DEMI-GOD
We are definitely towards the end it seems but that's more down to age. Unless we get more material which reflects where they are at now (musically and ability/vocals) then it's difficult to see them performing live for the long haul with the current suite of songs.
ShadowOfTheWave 790
ShadowOfTheWave
I literally only care about three things at this point:
1.Soul Monster with vocals
2.Oklahoma/Berlin with vocals (assuming it exists)
3.The General
Those are the only specific reasons I'm still holding on. I'd no doubt be excited to hear any other CD II tracks, but in all honesty I don't care if there's ever a "brand new" GNR track, as I don't like Slash's recent work and am not really interested in whatever the corporate jukebox that used to be Axl Rose has to say lyrically, so the fact that they seem to be creatively bankrupt doesn't bother me. If an eventual album was all new songs instead of reworked CD II I'd be too pissed off/disinterested to even listen to it. I became a fan because of CD and am just here to ride this saga out. Even if Axl retired tomorrow I still wouldn't "let go" as I'd still be waiting for the other tracks to leak/released as a boxset.
F*ck Fear 1,070
Been here since 2003 and have thought the same a few times over the last 4 years. At the end of the day there are too many good people here, and we can talk about anything, doesn't have to be GNR.
Guns will always be my favorite band because of the music they've created. That doesn't mean I have to act tone deaf. Until Axl sounds better, I will not spend another cent on concert tickets.
Also - I disagree MetallicA have burned out.....Hardwired was the strongest album they have put out in decades. Death Magnetic was strong too but not at the same level.
I haven't listened to the Aerosmith one but I gather it's pretty awful?
allwaystired 2,491
allwaystired
It's fun to post here- I always get some laughs out of the comments and people are pleasant. It gets me through the days really, coming here and discussing my favourite band, and realising I'm not alone out there.
I'm sort of accepting of the idea now that we'll never hear anything new. I'm not ok with that- I think it's a shameful waste of talent and opportunity, but I accept that's the way it will be. Nothing but an album actually being releasing will make me think there is any new material- we've had promises and carrot dangling for years and years.
For me though it's not about letting go as there always might be a bootleg leak, an old video discovered, something like that to give me a bit of a rush.
My love of GNR is a joke to all my music loving friends, and has been for years. They laugh at the band, laugh at me for loving it, etc. Always have done always will do.
So I doubt I'll ever 'let go' (GNR mean too much to me) but I'm a realistic adult. I don't need to have sort of cathartic farewell moment for my fandom- it's all just fun and good memories at this stage, with a despairing/bemused attitude to their current status, which I view almost like a soap-opera or television drama.
Edited October 21, 2020 by allwaystired
Free Bird 2,026
3 hours ago, ShadowOfTheWave said:
There won't be a CD boxset ever. What's the point of making a boxset of an unsuccessful album? People didn't bother to buy it for 99 cent at Best Buy.
Maybe when Axl dies someday and there's nothing left for TB to milk the cow...
Having said that, GNR are still one of my favorite bands, no other band has ever interested me in the same way. I still love their music, why should I let them go?
Hope for a new record or new music is on a very low level by this point but I still love their classic stuff.
Edited October 21, 2020 by Free Bird
Every time I see these "am I gonna finally give up?" threads/posts, I remember those years of 2003-2005 and feel slightly amused. I mean, at least there still was a show this year. Gigs, remasters, and leaks in the previous years. Do you know what happened publicly during those three years I've mentioned? Fuck all, that's what. This is nothing, especially taking the Covid thing into account. See the bigger picture.
Sisyphus 248
I'm here because I love the music and the band, I'm still interested in all the tidbits regardless if they're new or old. Generally speaking I've "let go" some time ago. I don't care if they never do anything again but at the same time I'll be thrilled if they actually manage to do anything of interest.
Edited October 21, 2020 by Sisyphus
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