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De Klerk: 'No animosity' with Mandela
By Lucky Gold, CNN
Editor's Note: F.W. de Klerk, the last leader of white South Africa, who joined with Nelson Mandela to bring an end to apartheid and shared a Nobel Peace Prize for their achievement, was recently interviewed at a summit of Nobel Laureates in Chicago and appeared on Thursday's Amanpour.
So I'm a Convert
It was noted that Mandela had once called de Klerk "a man of integrity" but had taken it back, regretting that de Klerk had never renounced the principle of apartheid.
De Klerk responded: "Well, let me first say I'm not aware that Mr. Mandela says I've never renounced apartheid." He then said, "I have made the most profound apology in front of the Truth Commission and on other occasions about the injustices which were wrought by apartheid."
But then he added: "What I haven't apologized for is the original concept of seeking to bring justice to all South Africans through the concept of nation states (essentially creating two separate states, one black and one white)."
"But in South Africa it failed," he said. "And by the end of the '70's, we had to realize, and accept and admit to ourselves that it had failed. And that is when fundamental reform started."
He was then asked if apartheid failed because it was unworkable, or because it was simply morally repugnant.
"There are three reasons it (apartheid) failed," he said. "It failed because the whites wanted to keep too much land for themselves. It failed because we (whites and blacks) became economically integrated, and it failed because the majority of blacks said that is not how we want our rights."
Still, De Klerk would not back off his belief in the validity of the original concept of "separate but equal" nation states.
"There is this picture that apartheid was…used to be compared to Nazism," said de Klerk. "It's wrong, and on that, I don't apologize for saying that what drove me as a young man, before I decided we need to embrace a new vision, was a quest to bring justice for black South Africans in a way which would not – that's what I believed then – destroyed the justice to which my people were entitled."
"That's how I was brought up," said de Klerk. "And it was in an era when also in America and elsewhere, and across the continent of Africa, there was still not this realization that we are trampling upon the human rights of people. So I'm a convert."
Eleven official languages
Again, he was asked if he wanted to take the opportunity to say that apartheid was, in retrospect, morally repugnant.
"I can only say in a qualified way," said de Klerk. "Inasmuch as it trampled human right, it was – and remains – and that I've said also publicly, morally reprehensible." He added, "But the concept of giving as the Czechs have it and the Slovaks have it, of saying that ethnic unities with one culture, with one language, can be happy and can fulfill their democratic aspirations in an own state, that is not repugnant."
"With the advantage of hindsight," said de Klerk, "we should have started the reform much earlier…But the intention was to end at a point which would ensure justice for all. And the tipping point in my mind was when I realized… we need to abandon the concept of separateness. And we need to build a new nation with its eleven official languages, accommodating its diversity, but taking hands and moving forward together."
We call each other on birthdays
Mandela, will turn ninety four in July and de Klerk was asked if they were friends.
"Actually, we're close friends," said de Klerk. "Not the closest in the sense that we see each other once a week. Also, we live apart. But he's been in my home as a guest; I've been in his home as a guest. When I go to Johannesburg, my wife and I have had tea with him and Graca, his wife."
"We call each other on birthdays," he said. "There is no animosity left between us." But then he added: "Historically, there was."
CNN's Ken Olshansky produced this piece for television.
Filed under: Christiane's Brief
Willem van den Berg
Stange that this interview with De Klerk has caused such a stir immediately after it was aired but also that few people noticed and that the media did its best to ignore president Jacob Zuma's singing of 'Kill the Boer (white people)... see how they run' with relish such and impunity earlier this year. For some dark reason the media continue to ignore growing official and black racism in South Africa.
diana_ZA
Yes Willem and why they do not mention what is going in Nigeria being thankful to Shell company? Its much worse than any apartheid. And the reason for ignoring the fact of racial conflict still existing in SA is plain and simple. If that start highlighting the problem it means they admit the fall of apartheid actually wasn't such a great idea. But who likes to admit their own mistakes and on such a global scale?
Willem do you stay in SA? Have you ever heard Jacob Zuma singing that song. Do yourself a favour and stop being stupid
Dougie you are correct – but at the same time JZ has never told anybody NOT to sing the song and in fact has defended the singing of it
Yes, indeed! Recorded on Media24's website in January 2012 in Bloemfontein.
Jopie
Actually, Zuma's has his own hit song. It is called "Umshini wami" which translates as "Bring me my machine gun." The sentiments expressed in the song are the same as that in "Kill the Boer."
MikeSA
Dougie, he actually did sing it in Manguang in February whilst on the stage, part of his usual dance and song routine!!!! Google some videos of that centenary and have a look see.
Ok Im a bit of with the date, it was on 11 January 2012, below some links, so it appears even your Pressy wants you dead boet!!!!
http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2012/01/zuma-sang-kill-boer-in-bloemfontein.html
"The first charge was for Zuma's singing "the forbidden song", "dubul' ibhunu" (shoot the boer) at the ANC's centenary celebrations in Bloemfontein on January 11."
http://www.vocfm.co.za/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=3510:anc-rejects-volk-complaint&Itemid=121
Once a terrorist, always a terrorist.
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzRSE_p1Ys&w=640&h=360]
Was it not Julius Malema that sang "Shoot the boer"? and has he not been kicked out of the ANC? For all the controversies he has caused.
The very same and that is one of the reasons why I have reacted in the way I did.
Mankwana
Willem you have no idea what you are talking about, there is not way you live in ZA
Mankwana – what do you call Employment Equity and BEE other than RACISM? Or are you also of the opinion that seeing it is Black on White it is not racism?
I live in Pretoria but you live in cuckoo-land if you also live here and did not see that outrage in Bloemfontein.
Linds Ron-House
Johan, you clearly know nothing about the policies you're talking about. And I'm pretty sure you haven't read them either. EE seeks to affirm those who were previously systematically excluded from job opportunities. These include white women. In fact the reality is that the biggest beneficiaries of EE are white women, followed by Indians, followed by Africans and finally Coloureds. The people who are really getting a raw deal are Coloureds, yet the media wants us to believe that it's white people. In 2010 more than 60% of people employed into management positions in SA where white. I challenge you to check these facts and then argue from a position of strength not ignorance.
I think you mean Malema, Willem.
No Tim, Jacob Zuma in person... and here for all of the idiots who have already denied that it happened... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzRSE_p1Ys ... Yes, we do not need Zuma's mindset here because it is simply dangerous.
Mthiz
Ohhh...please Willem thought we dont' need that type of mindset no more man.
trankati
Let's pray for his repentence.he must not go to his grave with such mentality.
This man is making a mockery of himself, what a shame!
Shame bitter old man! Some people can't believe that Apartheid actually ended and wish they still had the sick power of being the boss. Too bad times are changing...
What is the problem with his state of mind? Should the whites have shot the black people like the americans did to the native americans and killed most of them?
No they tried to create 2 seperate and equal states! These states would have be apart from each other the same as Canada is seperate from USA...
The plan didn't work off course and as he said the whites should have realised this earlier, but that is the problem with hindsight it comes to late. The blacks (as were their right) fought for their freedom and they whites seeking to protect themselves fought back...
This fight delayed the process even further. People do not want to be reason or share their country with terrorist (as Mandela himself admits he was). Thats wat makes South Africa great! instead of killing each other we reached a compromise and are trying to work and live together.
Umar Latif
Sure you dont want to go there. Because if you do Ms Amanpour, the world can will indict Netanyahus for crimes worse than those in Aparthied S. Africa. When the zionists have liberals like Christiane they dont need hawks. Sadly the right wing Israeilis will never stop behaving like abused children. So what if they cant get back on the Nazis, there are always the Arabs..
please read mr. de klerks statements much more clearly before calling him names. he is not bitter.
I always appreciate honest politicians, regardless of their points of view.
As much as we like to elevate people such as Mandela, Guevara, Churchill, we forget all too easily the other side of their lives. Churchill was a renound racist, Mandela plotted to blow up innocent civilians. Can we justify his motives? Is if there a difference between him and Timothy McVeigh other than that McVeigh succeeded and Mandela went to prison?
What few seem to understand is that control of South Africa was literally handed over to the ANC overnight, and peacefully. Despite his significant role in doing so, De Klerk did so and was not seen as the ultimate victor here, Mandela was. Mandela's wife, a woman guilty of murder, burning a boy alive, marching in victory, while De Klerks wife got murdered a few years later.
I've grown to respect Mandela, but I'm a realist at the same time.
Sergio Henriques
I couldn't agree more.
F W De Klerk and Mandela TOGETHER put the apartheid into the past and averted a potential civil war outbreak. I found the pressing questions towards De Klerk distasteful and unwarranted.
Imagine if Amanpour invited Mandela into the interview and asked him an array of questions around his planned bombing of women and children along with all the other plots his freedom fighters (commonly seen as terrorists by the opposing side) were involved in?
Sergio, you should read the book called "In a different time" only then, you will understand the violation of human rights back then.
Then, the reason for the uproar is purely because De Cheek spewed propaganda, especially when saying that blacks had a right to vote when we all know they didn't 🙂
Jon – he GAVE our country away -without us saying that it was OK – we were never told what he had in mind when we voted YES – Flat Wheel de Klerk sent his juniors to the negotiating table and then there was the famous incident when he realised what his juniors did he said to them – My God do you realise that you have just given the country away?
Drex
Johan, when whites voted yes in the 1992 referendum (overwhelmingly) they gave him a mandate to give away "your" country. Although the referendum was to show the weakness of the right-wing, it also serves as a strong refutation of revisionist "stab in the back" theories.
Hi Jon, you're truly the only one speaking sense here. Madiba today is recognised as a hero though he was a killer? He deserved to go to jail and they should never have let him out. SA Government should hang all murderers, rapists and child molesters. They should bring back the death penalty.
@Tso
What happened back then was a virtual war caused by the animosity between blacks and whits hence murders that indeed took place as well as those that were planned should not be confused with intended emotional desires by individuals, but rather a duty that was required of the person involved. If madiba is said to be a murderer, what then makes those that deliberated on the decisions made to kill the exhorbitant number of blacks over the years, let alone the school kids massacred in 1976?
You are correct Job, but at the Ricinus trial, Mandela did not de those things. He served 27 years in jail. De Klerk apologised in front of a truth commission and received a noble peace prize.
It's outweighing gold and silver. Hmmmny
L J Vosloo
Zuma sang the song: "Bring me my machine Gun"....That is the correct fact. Peter Mokaba sang the song "Kill the Boer...." Let us first get the facts right before we get involved discussing the morailty of a previous system.
We are long past the apartheid days and have moved on, rebuilding the country and leaving behind all the racial hatred. I felt that this interview and the questions asked to one of South Africa's former presidents was not only badly timed (20 years too late perhaps), but I question its purpose.
F W De Klerk said that he did not condone the injustices that occurred during the apartheid era, but did in its original concept.
Similarly, we could look at the core concept of communism and how it was designed to ensure everyone is equal and receives a fair share for their labors, but look how that has gone wrong every time when put into practice.
Bringing the relationship and past-differences of two great presidents into question seems only a shot at increasing viewer ratings. Have a little more respect.
The best thing for South Africa is to split into two states, one for whites and other minority groups since the new black government hates us so much and one for the black majority.
Why don't they hand-over the Western and Northern Cape provinces to us and then we see which of the two will prosper.
Pete, you backward minded and that will not solve anything! We South Africans (Both black and white) need to leave this in the past and start focusing on the future.
Thato then tell the current ANC goverment to stop all this EE and BEE nonsense as this is STILL RACISM
Hoor, hoor! (Hear, hear...)
Pete – The ANC goverment will never allow this as it will then be living proof that their policies have failed and that they cannot govern. We will also have to then set up a new SADF to protect our borders against the hordes who would want to live in a prosperous and safe country
Puleng M.
Why do you want to separate, couldn't get a visa to OZ? Don't like the climate in Oranija? Try Canada or New Zeland.
Wim Kotze
Isn't it obvious? Can you point to one sucessful black state, and please don't name Anglo-America's Botswana. Or for that matter, one clean public toilet run, or frequented, by blacks?
Mbulelo
Poor F.W is leaving in denial .You 're not the only one, many right wing Afrikaners are still leaving in denial. F.W. is talking nonsense when he says homelands were "historical there". Thats pure rubbish, homelands were forced to blacks by the policy of the apartheid govt of "divide and rule." F.W. has a horrible memory .Its typical of a dead snake. He is seeking media attention. F.W. is being disingenious and its really unfortunate at his age he will go down to the grave in denial.
@CNN should not only focussing on portraying S.A. as a crime haven and corrupt country. A lot of good has happened in S.A since 1994 and you have failed to report that . Stop being bias in your reporting, you need to balance your story. In the past few weeks you have been reporting negative things about S.A. This tendency also happened during the preparations for the Soccer World Cup 2010. CNN and other Afro-pessimists were busy trying to discredit S.A's preparedness for the event, and "whether a country with millions of people leaving below the poverty is it advisable to spend billions of U.S. dollars on this event of this maginitude".
Mbulelo, yes, a lot of 'good' – what good? Look at the government now, and look at it BEFORE the 90's. You are living in DENIAL of what the President does, together with Nathi M; Juju; does hate speech all the time and gets away with it! oh please ... I think the whites are a lot of bang-gatte because we cannot stand together and be as violent and brutal as you are. Sorry, I have to differ with you. I'll glady take the name snake, instead of MURDERERS AND RAPISTS.
Nonsense and don't the miserable ANC or flatter yourself! I have seen very little of that 'a lot of good' and the rot is continuing at an alarming pace – any objective observer will confirm that.
MlunguMnyama
Poor Mbulelo and FW, both living in denial. Allot of good has happened since 1994 ?huh?, just like allot of good happened during Apartheid , but guess what, only for a few in both era's. Clearly you are one of the few benefiting from 1994.
Please, put your fat mouth to better use and do something for the unity of our SA, or live with your chip somewhere else, because you're no asset to us in SA. POWER TO THE PEOPLE – UNITE!!
Please tell King Goodwill Zwelithini and the assortment of Xhosa Paramount chiefs and Kings that they have no fiefdoms so that they can get out of the public purse. Then learn to read so that you can master the basic history of South Africa.
Craig De Montfort-Braganca
yes they have those fiefdoms, the kingdoms still exist and recognized by law – just that they aren't statutory.
See unlike the Afrikaners & Boers (who claim and are still squatting on millions of hectares of land they stole), the land is theirs.
There's no need to study history that was falsified by the broederbond to justify theft, oppression and apartheid – it's all pure nonsense.
I am no fan of Mr. de Klerk. He sold out his people and his party lied to their supporters. That said, I am happy to see that he actually mentions why Mandela was put in jail in the first place. Mandela tried to overthrow the government through violent means. His organization, the ANC bombed a restaurant in my town killing children. He has blood on his hands! He is not the saint CNN and the likes make him out to be. If you think that he was justified because he was fighting against a repressive government then I guess you think nothing of killing children.
Willem van den Berg, you should not be surprised, when it comes to South Africa only us whites are racist. Jacob Zuma and Julius Malema can sing "kill the settler kill the boer" and that is fine by the world and media. Whites are murdered every day in SA and nothing is reported. Several years ago a family was murdered at their home. The 3 year old daughter was taken outside and shot execution style in the head. Only the local newspapers reported about the murders.Yet at the same time all we saw on cable TV news was the death of a British woman after her dog attacked her in her flat in London. Imagine if this happened in California...
SA is a mess and it is falling apart with bankrupt municipalities, corrupt police, rampant rape and violence and a government who sings song about killing minorities. But hey, TIA and blame the whites. Business as usual.
He was the weakest leader ever to rule SA. Now that he see what is happening in SA he wants to change his mind. Apartheid according to any dictionary is to keep ANYTHING apart, how can it be wrong. How can it be wrong when there is apartheid all over the world, it is just not written into the law books?
Racism is the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as Prejudice or discrimination directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief.
MarkSoldOutByFrikkie
WHY DID YOU GIVE SOUTH AFRICA AWAY?? Do you see what is happening nowdays and what you have done to our beloved country. Have you no shame left, what do I tell my children and my grandchildren. However I do tell my children to leave SNAKES alone.
Instead of bickering amongst ourselves, we as the people of South Attics should work towards reconciliation and racial cohesion.
This interview tells me, inclusive of the comments, we have a long way to go
Jenny, take your head out of the sand (deep black hole)
South Africa like the rest of this dark continent is going down the drain because the mamparas is in charge. What did blacks ever invented? They ride on the backs of the whites. They are stupid and lazy. They belong in the middle ages. We as whites want our place under the sun where we can prosper.
for your stupidity william,, we'll invent a rape tool that will bring out your racist intestines ..
I do not see compromise in South Africa, I see genocide and targeted racism.
Deon-Genocide is all that we can call the systematic killing of white farmers
Mr De Klerk, could you please comment on the mass GENOCIDE taking place in South Africa. The thuggery and large scale theft taking place etc etc etc. I suppose you can't cause there is no more South African Defence Force and Police to do the job anymore.
A young "white" lady (I hate using colour) sent this on twitter this morning: "We have to reform older South Africans or they will continue to raise poisoned young ones." @MarkSoldOutByFrikkie
Jenny the issues in today's South Africa is not about colour. Please dont bring colour into it. Its not a debate anymore. It is the large scale theft and "trying to legalise theft(E-Toll) and the mass killing of people. The destruction of the security forces, the non performance of normal services etc etc. If you want to engage me in meaniful debate, then lets engage on these matters. The De Klerk issue is such a deep deep rooted issue with OLD WHITE MALE SOUTH AFRICANS, I can go on foever. I say once a snake always a snake..
It so sad that so many racist South Africans agree with de Klerk statements in this interview. The realities of this situation are these: yes, Mandela and the ANC resported to violent revolution after decades of peacful protest and attempts at negotiating with the Aprartheid goverment not only failed but caused the government to become increasingly brutal and unjust towards non-white South Africans. Yes, the Rivonia trialists were given a fair trial in accordance with the laws of the day, BUT those laws were indended to be biased against non-whites and freedom fighters/ terrorists so how fair can we really say it was? Yes, the slogan of the Apartheid regime was 'seperate but equal' but the reality is that the system was never intended to afford non-whites equality on any socio-economic plane, not even in the homelands which de Klerk seems to remember so fondly. 'Seperate but equal' was the spin used to explain the regimes injustice and human rights abuses. Have a look at the laws passed under Apartheid (both pertaining to the Homelands and 'the rest of South Africa') and try to find a case to support the idea that the intention of the Apartheid governments' was every true equality for blacks in a separate society from whites.
The reality is that Aparthied was an immoral concept in theory and practice. My opinion is that those who want to trivialize it or justify it are attempting to passify their own guilt or the guilt they know belongs to their older relatives, etc. My opinion also is that de Klerk got far more credit than he was due for the ending of Apartheid and that Mandela was paid hansomely for his forgiveness, something the rest of the non-white South African population did not get to share in.
Mandela's no saint, he never was. He was a convinient and apt focus of a marketing campaign that was very effective: he gave a human, articulate, good looking face to all oppressed South Africans that garnered support and sympathy around the world for the anti-Apartheid movement.
It's also my opinion that many of the Apartheid era Ministers of Defense, Justice, Native Affairs, Police, Intelligence and the Prime Ministers still living in '94 should have been tried by the ICC for crimes against humanity. Perhaps then there wouldn't be this widely acceptance of trivializing what Apartheid was (evil, immoral, unjust, cruel, corrupt).
Well said Puleng, and a great thoughtout approach too 🙂
Puleng and what about all those current ministers who were involved in muredr, rape and butality against the persons in camps in Angola lile Quattro – or is that forgiven because it was done in the name of Freedom. What about a certain woman who we all know was guilty of toturing and murdering one of her followers because he was SUSPECTED of being a spy?
And these words do not describe ANC rule: evil, immoral, unjust, cruel, corrupt?
Sold out by FW.
Farm Murders in South Africa
This is a tribute to the 4000 + Farmers who were murdered in South Africa since 1991.
http://southafrica-pig.blogspot.com/2012/02/farm-murders-in-south-africa.html
As for Jenny: we will raise children that will survive in an openly hostile environment! Come live in ZA for one year then sprout your Liberal drivel again.
Ramblings of an Idle-Busy Mind
Interesting. Mr Mandela will be turning ninety-four, not ninety as stated in the article. Please check for factual accuracy.
Mzukisi
How do you even dare defend apartheid?
Can you defend holocaust?
Can you point to one black African state that out preformed South Africa under white rule using the UN human development index? The same UN that declared apartheid a crime against humanity. Moreover can you explain why SA has droped in that index under black rule. If you can't find an black African country that was beter of than apartheid SA it is obvious that black rule is a crime against humanity.
Mala Papau
You are delusional. Not every culture wants white rule or wants their countries to be like Europe or the US. Africans were quite happy living their own lives before you evil whites invaded it. Don't like it, go back to Europe. I'm sure they'll welcome you with open arms. Bye bye. Now get the hell out. NOTE: Whites have stolen more from Africa and now they're complaining that AFrica is not being well run. If we steal your people and your wealth, you won't be well run either. Get out of here.
Mzukisi – can you defend the racism that is happening currently in South Africa> Can you defend the on going genocide in South Africa?
How do you defend the ANC? Do you defend holocaust?
Moeng
I will continue to pray for change, and to have all wounds caused by the apartheid system and the corrupt behavior of the ANC to be healed, South Africa is a beautiful country, I hope to see one day black and white working together to try a solve all problems facing us, instead of focusing our energies on our petty differences
Moeng – I pray for that – unfortunately I believe it will never happen as long as we have racism by black on white and the murder of our farmers stop
Moeng, I do not pray anymore but I cannot agree more with your more rational sentiments.
Here, for the international audience: Government under ANC rule.
http://www.nationmaster.com/country/sf-south-africa/cri-crime
http://www.saps.gov.za/statistics/reports/crimestats/2011/crime_stats.htm
Download the PDF with full report. Remember, that 18,000 murders per annum is low for ZA. It used to be higher but we are so lucky that that is being turned around. Attempted murder is roughly double that amount. Also consider, what is considered a low intensity conflict. Take the example of Darfur. Some 300,000 dead in a decade. Take ZA: 190,000 dead in a decade?!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/04/27/idUSN27541224._CH_.2400
Please, put your fat mouth to better use and do something for the unity of our SA, or live with your chip somewhere else, because you're no asset to us in SA.
MoFaya
We will continue to pray for all this troubled souls that still want live in hell (Apartheid). Who keep calling black people evil names. God has a plan for all of us and all be well Soon. May god bless you in abundance . He greater than all the hate and APARTHEID !!
Every time questions are raised about the ZA government, the race card gets played. In fact, that is the only card that gets played all over South Africa. It is cheap and ignorant.
Deon, wild denial or not recognizing the blind, hell-bent, unilateral and devastating official racism in South Africa and the ANC's own terrible damaging effect on all aspects of south African life is not only foolish, stupid, short-sighted and dishonest, it is also oiling the slippery slope to perdition and helping to change us into another Zimbabwe. It is not who our enemy is in this case but what...
Well said Mofaya. Please include in those prayers, our Farmers, that produce the food for our country, that are being killed.
Please also include, stop the thieving. Thanks
As talented and funny as he is, I think the sole racial focus and making fun of an OLD culture people, with wars getting more and more violent, he should focus on making fun of both sides, west, east, north, south !!
shoot the booer and bring my machine gun is aimed the sick whites like william and johan and his aides. Go back to where your white @ss came from
and who is the racist now?
Junior -in my office I have appointed two ladies of colour – not because of their colour or some stupid goverment quota system – but because they were the best for the position. Our organisation also pays in excess of the minimum as legislated as we believe you pay peanuts -you get monkeys. This is how I wish our country to be run
dude, you will not get applause for hiring a coloured graduate in economics and paying them 2k because its over the minimum wage. i am sure you are smarter than that so get over yourself.
Junior -actually they are matriculants- that was the job spec – and No I do noot need applause – but unfortunately it would appear that you are incapable of being able to communicate at a meaningfil level – so ag shame
I see lot of hatred over here,how can someone say blacks are fools and lazy,what have we done blacks that we are hated so much.One thing that amaze me when you look @ history of South Africa there was no white man before bloody racist jan van riebeck came.We were @ peace and you lot came and u talk nonsense oppressed us in our own country and we u want to justify that crap before you all start talking rubbish check yourselves .We did not ask you to come and also being uncivilised was not problem.If you all whaite racist have a problem go back where you belong.Africa and South Africa is for blacks. White is south africa are all racist and thiefs who came to South Africa and rob us.
Hassan -who is the racist now?
Hassan ... you have a nerve speaking as you do. Muslims are NOT native to South Africa. The Xhosa, Bantu, Zulu and Hottentot were. So don't include yourselve as indiginous just because your skin is not white. Besides, get your head out the bucket. We live NOW and not in past of 300 years ago. To move forward one needs to deal with the present and not the past. The past can only be refered to when one wants to avoid making the same mistakes. Based on your feelings, it appears you would be quite happy living the life of all those who flee to South Africa from other parts of Africa, like Zimbabwe, Mozamique, Kenya,Nigeria and many more other Countries that are in civil war and in ruins, starving and captive slaves to their African Warlords. Is that what you want? If so why not just leave? Why stay in a country that whites improved, prospered created wealth in and turned over to Black Rule? Go live in a country where the law is the machine gun, punga, mecheti and the smell of death fills the air. What about some of the muslim practices on the African continent where woman and girls are hung in public because the are raped. Or set on fire by their husbands, brothers etc because they don't fit in with their all male plans? Why not use your limited intelligence to do some good where you live rather than harbour thoughts of what you were never a part of or wanting to live back in days of prehistoric times?
The bushmen are the indigenous people of SA. SA was then colonised by whites and blacks.
Tell em Hassan...the notion of some white people that they are the reason for evolution sickens me
ROFL – someone with the name Hassan claims to be have been in southern Africa before the arrival of the White settlers in 1652. Was it your slave trading Near Eastern grand daddy that was there? Your ignorance and hypocrisy are equally inspiring. No wonder ZA is in the state it is in – you must be part of the governing elite since you have access to computers.
Johnathan
It is quite evident that many who criticize Pres de Klerk and Apartheid have no idea of its positive factors. It seems as if they have been brought up by the propaganda that exists about Apartheid. When Apartheid was established I was alresady well into adulthood. I was present at Independence celebrations of both the Transkei in 1976 and Bophuthutsana in 1977. I'll never forget the joy and jubilations of the massive crowd when at midnight they received their independence and freedom that they had requested. nKosi Sikele in its original and correct form was sung with great gusto by the masses in the Transkei as well as the white people present. Millions of rands were punmped into the homelands; white farms were bought up by the Government and handed to the Black farmers. Thousands of schools were established. Money for black education increased every year until in the late 80's more money was being spent on Black educqtion than on white education. Top grade Universities were built for each black nation who became self-supporting with the continued support of the Apartheid Goverrnment. Goodwill existe in those early days until the Communists intervened and stirred up hatred. They had worked their way through Africa destroying one country after the other.
Pres de Klerk had every right to be proud of those achiement as they were meant to be. Why don't we hear about the 600 innocent blacks who wer burnt alive with their neclacing?
It is time for the young people of today to stand together and concentrate on re-establishing the goodwill that existed then.
Jonathan- well said
Gentle men, its time uo accept the status core–Africa has changed. either we stay we these blacks in their country or leave. l have accepted them, and work with them, can speak their languages, and l have no problems with them, what distrubs me, is the level of pretending among us the white communiies; we have to change, we lostthe country to its people. we are plastic african let be real here
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I am a Nigerian, and I believe it it high time South Africans of all races moved on. Build a model nation like the US.
jean niemand
Pray do tell how does FW live with himself white people are being starved robbed murders raped totured in the wost way the jews were put to death in gas chambers but the white people of SA are being put to death in such a cruel way it is unspeacable in there own home from babys to old people
Racism only existed in politic never in the normal households of SA my best friend Kelleboni whose parents worked on our family farm was black and I was white we are still friends I ate at her house and she ate at my house she was never treated bad nor was I so please even today on our farm our workers stay with us for generations they are our family
Ignus
For those who want to know a little bit more about President Mandela watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKO7MmJ60zY
Apartheid – the highs and the lows, the now and the then – for all the people of South Africa. An oldish, but still very relevant video.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=apartheid+the+truth.flv&page=2
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If you were already well into adulthood in 1948, you are clearly a very old man indeed, and deserving of some respect, but I think you are hallucinating.
Only two of those 'Bantustans' were ever made 'independent' and then only when suitable puppets could be found to run them. Sure a few white farms were bought to 'consolidate' them, whereas thousands upon thousands of blacks were stripped of their land and citizenship to purify the 'white homeland' "Separate but equal" was a slogan, never a policy.
Spending on 'black' education was never more than 1/10th of that on 'white' education per child – there were no 'thousands' of schools – only a few primary schools, so that blacks would be able to read the 'whites only / net blankes' signs. The 'Top grade universities' were staffed by political appointees and people who couldn't get jobs elsewhere.
If we don't try to understand the damage that 40 years of that obscene ideology did to everyone in the country, we will never be able to fix it. We certainly have a long way to go and it won't be easy. But at least we have started.
More than 60 persent of the people that sits in the parliament in South Africa have criminal records. The current president is a thief and is morally corrupt. The demise of this country is a forgone conclusion. Just look to the rest of Africa. There are only 3 kinds of "democracy" in Africa. They are one party states, dictatorships or military juntas.
mustangsallee
So sad, but typical, that people are unable to comprehend what a person has said. Ever considered how context affects meaning? FW should know better than to use intelligent conversation when his audience is so uneducated.
BTW, has anyone seen that video where Mandela sings "Kill the boer" with his commie buddies? I have....
Please see http://www.neo-genocide.co.za; censorbugbear-reports and boergenocide there you will see the reality and de Klerks legacy left of apartheid
Funny how the world kept nagging about apartheid. Most of them wasn't in South Africa that time and doen't have a clue what was going on. All the media distribute is how the white man did wrong but they do not show the beginning of the problem why they did that. Have they ever seen how schools been burned down, shops been demolished during strikes, women and specially children raped, farmers been killed and then you still have the president and his youth league commie sing kill the farmer? No, I don't think so and I guess specially the USA should be quiet because they did worse to the Indians, steal the oil and minerals in Africa. Hey, they could not do that in South Africa because the white government stopped them of doing so and when the world put sanctions against SA, that was the time that the SA economy were at it's strongest and we were self sufficient. The SA schools and Universities were of the highest standard in the world and now we were 43 on the standard list. Wake-up people, don't just look through one eye, God gave you two!!!!!
If one look at all the atrocities commited in Africa then apartheid is like a sunday school picnic.
Reading the above comments, it's very clear that not everyone understands what Mr. De Klerk has actually said:
He stated:
– He is totally against the human right abuses that took place at the time of Apartheid.
– He seeked to bring justice to All South Africans.
– He believes that Separate but Equal states can work well and be advantages to both parties, but it was not the reality during the period of Apartheid (1948-1994).
Apartheid failed because
– the different nations in SA became to economically dependent upon each other; and
. the "whites" (Afrikaner and English South Africans) was too greedy: They wanted to be in control of too large area of the country.
There is really no racism in his statement, nor evil!
Separate states
: Separate states is still (& will continue to be) the option that will be advantages to all of us in Southern African over the long run IF it is implemented in the correct way!
: It should not be based primarily on race, but rather on our separate nationhoods (Afrikaner, English, Zulu, Xhosa,etc.) as our cultures are so much different.
The current ANC government have clearly shown that they do not regard us (Afrikaners or English for that matter) as Africans, and that they actually want us to emigrate to another continent (due to our race and different cultures), although we (Afrikaners) have been in African for almost 400 years now.
As Afrikaners, we should be allowed to have a country of our own (where we are not an oppressed minority) . We are just as much Africans as Australians are Australian.
With this I totally agree!
de klerk is wrong in comparing the dissolution of czechoslovakia with the homelands in apartheid za (and obviously his comparison was with reference to them). czechs and slovaks separated consensually, after the separation the one state had no co-determination in the affairs of the other, there was no mutual dependency or supremacy after the dissolution, the territory (and the resources) which the two now independent states would dispose, was not controversial. in one sentence: czechs and slovaks were ate eye level, before and after the separation... de klerk has proven his splendour and i hope he will keep his course of the last years
I see a reporter that is more interested in causing controversy and response to her article with questions that have already been asked and answered than the truth. I am sure at this stage of both Former Presidents FW De Klerk and Nelson Mandela's lives they would want us to move on from these kind of questions. I am also sure that the majority of South Africans just want to move forward together in peace (that is what I hope). I am a South African born in the 80's and grew up in the 90's. Can we just move on
What sounds to me like a real mockery is attempts of la-la-land citizens who never ever in their lives smelt south-african life and still try to add their 5 cent to the whole thing Actually their talk is not even 5 cent worthy.
@Hassan you better go back to school and pay more attention to your history.
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Under the federal Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), employers are permitted to utilize a limited amount of employees' tips as a credit against their minimum wage obligations through a tip credit. Under current federal law, if an employee earns $5.12 an hour in tips, it would be permissible for a restaurant to only pay the employee $2.13 an hour in cash wages in order to meet the $7.25 federal minimum wage.
In most Western states, however, employers are not permitted to take tip credit (including California, Nevada, Washington, Oregon, Montana, and Alaska) pursuant to state law. Restaurants in these states are required to pay employees cash wages at minimum wage levels regardless of the tips they receive.
Some employers in these (and other) states have instituted tip-pooling programs. Under such plans, restaurants require servers to share the tips they receive with workers in customarily non-tipped positions, such as back-of-the-house staff (cooks, dishwashers, etc.).
The most recent legal pronouncement from the 9th Circuit about the practice of tip-pooling came in the 2010 case of Cumbie v. Woody Woo Inc. In that case, the appellate court rejected a waitresses' lawsuit against a restaurant claiming that the restaurant's mandatory tip pool violated the FLSA. There the court reasoned that the FLSA permits tip-pooling arrangements so long as the employer does not take tip credits against employees' wages.
The court concluded that the FLSA is silent as to who may participate in a tip pool if the employer does not take a tip credit, which meant that there appeared to be no legal restriction on the ability of restaurants to institute mandatory tip pools benefitting back-of-the-house employees in such cases.
In direct response to Woody Woo, the USDOL instituted a new regulation in 2011 stating that tips are the sole property of the tipped employee and cannot be used in a pool to share with back-of-the-house employees. The USDOL's position was that an employer cannot use an employee's tips except where possible to do so as a credit against minimum wage (an arrangement unavailable to employers in many Western states). In February 2012, the USDOL issued a directive to its field agents to begin enforcement of its new regulation.
In reaction to this new position, a group of restaurant and lodging associations from Washington, Oregon, and Alaska sued the USDOL in July 2012. The group argued that the USDOL had exceeded its statutory authority by issuing that rule, and that the agency ignored the binding precedent established by the Woody Woo case.
Around the same time, two casino dealers working for Wynn Las Vegas brought a wage and hour lawsuit against the casino. The employer required dealers and other tipped employees to participate in a tip-pooling plan, and the dealers claimed the casino was unlawfully taking their tips to share with other workers.
In 2013, a federal judge in Portland handed a victory to the group of associations and invalidated the USDOL's new tip-pooling regulations, and shortly thereafter a federal judge in Las Vegas ruled in favor of the casino and dismissed the dealers' case. The USDOL appealed the Oregon decision, and the 9th Circuit consolidated the companion case against Wynn into one appeal.
In a surprise 2 to 1 ruling, the 9th Circuit upheld the USDOL's 2011 rule, holding that the regulation was reasonable. The court also said that the rule was consistent with Congress' goal under the FLSA of ensuring that tips stayed with the employees who received them.
Of course, many are confused by this conclusion. Judge N. Randy Smith, the lone vote against the USDOL rule, puts it best: "Colleagues," he begins in an exasperated dissenting opinion, "even if you don't like circuit precedent, you must follow it." As he points out, this same court decided in the 2010 Woody Woo case that the FLSA's bar against tip-pooling among the back-of-the-house staff applies only in tip-credit states. There are no tip-pool restrictions in those states where customarily tipped employees earn minimum wage.
Nevertheless, despite the confusion and exasperation, the Oregon Rest. & Lodging Association v. Perez decision reverses this precedent, and could soon be controlling law in the 9th Circuit.
The group of restaurant associations has announced that it will seek a review of this decision before an 11-judge panel of the 9th Circuit (known as en banc review). Until it is determined whether that review will be granted, employers can continue to operate tip-pooling plans so long as they recognize that this decision may go into effect at any time. In other words, continuing with the status quo may prove risky.
Unless the ruling is overturned by an en banc panel or the U.S. Supreme Court, many restaurants and hospitality businesses in the Western U.S. will have to reconfigure how they disperse tips. If that is the case, restaurants using a tip pool will need to ensure that none of their back-of-the-house staff – line cooks, dishwashers, expeditors, or any other staff that may not fall within the FLSA's definition of "customarily and regularly tipped employees"— partake in sharing the tip pool.
Of course, for many restaurants, excluding a large portion of staff from the opportunity to earn tips could be disastrous for morale, and restaurant owners are considering their alternatives. For example, some restaurants include separate tip lines for front-of-the-house and back-of-the-house staff. Others have abandoned the tipping system altogether and are instead charging customers a mandatory service fee.
Given the uncertainty of success in challenging the USDOL's new rule, restaurants and other hospitality businesses in the Western U.S. should consider implementing these changes as soon as possible.
If you have questions about this ruling or how it may affect your business, please contact your Fisher Phillips attorney.
This Legal Alert provides an overview of a specific 9th Circuit court decision. It is not intended to be, and should not be construed as, legal advice for any particular fact situation.


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The THRIVE Act plans to create nine million jobs by upgrading infrastructure for clean water, affordable public transit, and a reliable electric grid and expanding access to wind and solar power, electric vehicles, and healthy buildings. (Photo: aydinmutlu/Getty Images)
Dingell and Markey Introduce $10 Trillion THRIVE Act to Tackle 'Our Biggest Emergencies'
The bill aims to ensure "an intersectional response" to the climate crisis, coronavirus pandemic, economic inequity, and racial injustice "that is proportionate to the scope of the problems we face."
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On the heels of President Joe Biden unveiling the second prong of his infrastructure proposal, progressives in Congress came together Thursday to formally introduce sweeping legislation that would invest $10 trillion over a decade in advancing climate, economic, and racial justice while putting 15 million people nationwide to work.
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—Sen. Ed Markey
Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-Mich.) and Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) are spearheading the Transform, Heal, and Renew by Investing in a Vibrant Economy (THRIVE) Act (pdf), which they announced last month, building on a resolution introduced last September. Several other Democratic lawmakers and advocacy groups are supporting the bill.
The THRIVE Act's introduction comes as Biden is pushing for his American Jobs Plan and American Families Plan and as people worldwide are still dealing with the human and economic consequences of the Covid-19 pandemic, which has killed over 574,000 people in the United States, nearly a fifth of the global death toll.
"Our country is facing four overlapping crises—mounting economic inequity, the climate crisis, racial injustice, and the coronavirus pandemic—and the THRIVE Act will ensure we have an intersectional response that is proportionate to the scope of the problems we face," Markey said in a statement. "We need good-paying union jobs, we need justice for all, and we need to act on climate."
"Last night, we heard President Biden's vision for how to recover from the crises we face," Markey noted, referencing the president's first address to Congress. "The THRIVE Act would bring the scale, scope, and standards that we need to make an equitable recovery happen and ensure that all people, everywhere, can truly thrive."
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The bill would establish a THRIVE board of presidentially appointed representatives from impacted and Indigenous communities as well as labor unions to help guide at least $1 trillion in annual investments from Fiscal Years 2022 to 2031.
As Dingell's office outlined, the THRIVE Act would:
Upgrade our infrastructure for clean water, affordable public transit, and a reliable electric grid (creating five million jobs);
Expand access to wind and solar power, electric vehicles, and healthy buildings (creating four million jobs);
Protect our rural and urban spaces, wetlands, prairies, forests and support family farmers who are embracing regenerative agriculture (creating four million jobs); and
Invest in public institutions and care for children and the elderly—essential work that is underpaid and largely performed by women of color (creating two million jobs).
"We're in a pivotal moment right now to switch gears from relief to recovery," Dingell declared, advocating for "intersectional policies that make the economy work for everyone" and ensuring that "we're recovering with a focus on justice and healing."
Co-sponsor Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) asserted that "in the richest country in the world, everyone should be able to live in a stable home, with good-paying union jobs, access to child care and family leave, with clean air and drinkable water. Unfortunately, the pandemic has made that dream even further out of reach for many Americans."
"Millions of Americans have fallen further into poverty during the current crisis—disproportionately people of color, women, and Indigenous people," she said. "Whether it's poverty, climate change, or racial inequities, we need solutions that meet the scale of the challenges we face. The THRIVE Act is that solution."
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The bill's other key co-sponsors are Sens. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) as well as Reps. Nanette Barragán (D-Calif.), Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.), Jamaal Bowman (D-N.Y.), Yvette Clarke (D-N.Y.), Jason Crow (D-Colo.), Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), and Ro Khanna (D-Calif.).
Many of them are also co-sponsoring the Green New Deal Resolution (pdf) recently reintroduced by Markey and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and related legislation on cities, public housing, and a Civilian Climate Corps. On Friday, Ocasio-Cortez and Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo.) will join with People's Action and the Sunrise Movement for a phone bank urging lawmakers to support those bills and "pass a bold $10 trillion jobs and infrastructure package as a critical first step towards the GND."
People's Action and Sunrise are also among dozens of groups supporting the THRIVE Act, along with the Center for Popular Democracy, Grassroots Global Justice Alliance, Green New Deal Network, Greenpeace USA, Indigenous Environmental Network, Indivisible, Movement for Black Lives, MoveOn, Physicians for Social Responsibility, Public Citizen, Service Employees International Union (SEIU), Physicians for Social Responsibility, United We Dream, the Working Families Party, and 350.org.
"Our movement has already handed President Biden the plan he needs to end the unemployment crisis, combat climate change, and deliver a just, equitable recovery from Covid-19: the THRIVE Act. Anything less is a failure to fully grasp the scale of the interconnected challenges that we're facing," said Greenpeace USA climate campaigner Ashley Thomson. "This is a moment for the president to be bold, and to listen to the wisdom of the very communities that organized to put him in office."
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It's no secret that some of the finest hunting binoculars hail from Germany. Europe has long produced good glass, and at some point Germany became the eye of that storm. It's easy to get lost in the sea of high-quality optics, though, especially if it's your first sojourn into a particular price class. It's important to note that European glass sometimes comes with European-style binocular designs, which don't always sit well with hunters in North America. Steiner is hoping to bridge that gap with the release of its new HX series.
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The binocular's lenses are coated with a hydrophobic molecular coating, which keeps the surface smooth enough to repel most dirt, dust, snow and fingerprints. Water shouldn't cling to them, either. The view is excellent. Light transmission doesn't disappoint, and images are crisp and bright. In this industry, it's not uncommon for an editor to use more than a dozen different binoculars in a given year. It's not often one stands out as much as the HX.
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• Type: roof-prism binocular
• Magnification: 8X, 10X (tested), 15X
• Objective Lens Diameter: 42mm (tested), 56mm
• Focusing Range: 8'-infinity
• Eye Relief: 16.5mm
• Exit Pupil: 4.2mm
• Field of View @ 1,000 Yds: 326'
• Coatings: fully multi-coated lenses w/Nano Protection; phase-corrected prisms
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At myBJJ, we live by our values: family, teamwork, loyalty and integrity. These are the same values we teach during our kids Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ) and kids self defence Sydney classes. With a focus on how to defend and protect yourself against opponents of greater size and strength, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is the perfect martial arts discipline to help kids develop coordination, bodily awareness and problem solving skills.
Our two Champion Programs are designed to nurture your child's physical, mental and emotional growth. Teaching the fundamentals of BJJ while teaching respect and eliminating the use of excessive force, our programs are among the best in kids self defence Sydney.
A program designed specifically for preschoolers, our Mini Champions classes focus on building confidence, discipline and coordination. Children enrolled in the Mini Champs program will learn fundamental self-defence techniques and the foundational principles of leverage and control through game play. The movements used are designed to build your child's motor coordination, agility, flexibility, balance and conditioning. The secret to the success of this program is that we make the lessons so much fun that the kids beg for more!
Children of all ages come together in our Junior BJJ classes, which provide children with the steps they need towards living a safe, productive and healthy life. Our kids BJJ and kids self defence classes Sydney teach children essential self defence techniques and foundational BJJ skills. Our Junior BJJ classes are a great way for kids to stay active, develop self confidence, make friends and have fun.
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Thanks to the developers, iPad and iPhone have the wonderful cameras to take photos. These photos are memories which you always wants to keep in mind. Sometimes you'd like to transfer your photos in your computer to iPad and iPhone in order to carry them at all the times. To make it, you need some third-party tools to transfer the photos from/to iPad and iPhone. This article outlines the high ranking ipad photo transfer apps also for iPhone, and brings forward to you all the pros, cons and usage, so that you will never face any difficulty again in transferring photos from your iPhone or iPad. Most of them are free photo transfer apps for iPad and iPhone. Let's check them out.
iPad is definitely one of the best tablets in its category with amazing features, sound quality and an excellent camera. A large number of photos is generally stored in iPad and it not only occupies lots of space but also creates problems for managing other information and data on the device. iPad will save the majority of the space by using ipad photo transfer tool and keep the backup into PC.
Although iTunes can be used for transferring, some users are still not comfortable with its complicated process. There is no need to worry. dr.fone - Transfer (iOS) is a powerful program which enables you to transfer iPad photos within a few clicks. The software can transfer photos to iPad, transfer videos, music files and other data between iOS devices, to iTunes and PC. The software allows to manage data as well as take back up and restore iTunes library so that your important data won't be lost.
First of all, you need to download dr.fone on your PC and then install it. Choose Transfer from all the functions. The software is simple to install and does not have any plugin- advertisement or malware. Moreover, you don't need to install any other third party apps on your iPad device while using this software. After installing the software, connect your iPad to your PC with a USB cable .
Next you need to select the photos that you want to transfer from iPad to computer. For this, under the iPad device on dr.fone interface, select "Photos" option at the top of the main interface and go to one of the given photo types: Camera Roll, Photo Library, Photo Stream and Photo Shared, or the desired album under one of the photo type. Now select the photos you want to transfer.
After the images are selected, click "Export" on the top menu and from drop down menu, select "Export to PC" and then give the desired location and folder on your PC where you want to transfer the images. Once the destination folder is given, click OK and the images will be transferred there.
In addition to transfer ipad photos to your PC, you can also use dr.fone to transfer videos, contacts, music from iPad to PC and vice versa. It also supports iPhone, iPod Shuffle, iPod Nano, iPod Classic and iPod touch.
Fotolr is a perfect photo transfer app for iPad and iPhone. It has a nice user interface and gives you convinient without any cable to connect between your devices and the application. It does not only transfer photos from iPad and iPhone to computer, and vice versa, but also shares them directly to the social networking websites. It can also sort through your photos by establishing different albums and putting different photos into the different albums. The photos will be shown while you are watching a calendar and even the geographic location will be tagged to it.
It's also one of the best photo transfer apps for ipad and iphone. Simple transfer has been downloaded over one million times. It's very easy to copy photos from iPad and iPhone to your computer and it also preserves the Meta-data of the photos. All your photo albums and videos on your computer can be transferred to your iPad and iPhone via Wi-Fi. It provides protection mechanism meaning which you can set up a pass code to access it. Also it has imposed no limit in the photo transferred size. It also works on all operating systems including windows and Linux. There is a catch though in the free version only first 50 photos can be transferred, after that you will have to pay for it.
Dropbox offers a cloud-based service for you, which enableds you to take photos anywhere and share them easily. Once you transfered photos from iPad and iPhone to Dropbox, you can easily access them on your computer, web and other device. It offers you 2 GB free cloud space. For more, you will be charged for it. Also, you can categorise your favorite photos so you can preview them offline.
WiFi photo transfer is also a wireless transfer app for ipad and iphone. It can be used to mass transfer as well as videos. Its best feature is that the Meta data of the photos can be also transferred, and does not require any hassle on the user side.
It can be used to transfer photos between iPhone and iPad as well as HD videos between any two apple devices. It can keep the metadata of the photo. The photo transfer operates in raw format without no format conversion. There is also a desktop application for this and the transfer can be even simpler. In addition, it can be used independently with any web browser to transfer photos. Finally, you will have to pay only once for the application and you can use it for permanence to transfer ipad, iphone photos to your computer without hassle.
Image Transfer is for you to transfer freely photos between your iPad, iPhone and PC with Wifi so that you don't need any USB cable.	It's very easy and reliable to use. You only need to connect your devices to Wifi. You even don't need to register with your email So you should give it a try.
Wireless Transfer App is another photo transfer app we suggest to transfer photos for ipad and iphone. You can also use it to backup your pictures. However, as compared to other photo transfer app, there is no free trial for Wireless Transfer App and it will cost you $2.99.
Photo Tranfer WiFi is another option for you to transfer your photos to iPad or iPhone with ease. Its performance was ranked top 10 in 55 countries. So you should give it a go.
With Photo Transfer Pro, you can transfer any photos between your iPad, iPhone or even computers. You can access your photos through a browser as long as your computer and your mobile devices are under the same network.
PhotoSync, another best way to share and transfer your photos to ipad and iphone. You can use it to backup your photos as well. It's easy, comvenient and very smart to work though it will charge you $2.99.
Simply download and have a try the best Photo Transfer software for iPad and iPhone. If this guide helps, don't forget to share it with your friends.
No matter you've upgraded your iPad or want to share the stunning photos with friends on iPad, there are multiple ways to transfer photos from iPad to iPad without hassle.
There are 2 simple ways to delete duplicate photos on iPad in iOS 10.3/9/8/7: delete manually or delete in batch with the experienced iPad transfer tool!
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Jeremiah - Jack Dean and Company
A raucous rebellious gig theatre show about a forgotten part of British history.
On the 9th of June 1817, Jeremiah Brandreth assembles a crew of malcontents in a pub near Nottingham. Their plan is to march on London, overthrow the government, wipe out the National Debt and end poverty forever. What Jeremiah doesn't know is that there is a spy in his ranks with other ideas…
Jeremiah tells the incredible true story of the much-misunderstood Luddite rebellion – a movement that spanned the whole of northern England and had more British soldiers fighting it than Napoleon. Ever thought about a House of Lords debate staged as a rap battle? Accompanied by a cellist, violinist and guitarist fusing hip hop beats with cinematic orchestration the story is told through the lens of the life of Jeremiah Brandreth, the instigator of the Luddites' final stand and the last man in British History to be beheaded by axe for High Treason.
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S (Scripture): 1 Corinthians 14:13 So then, one who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret. 14:14 If I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unproductive. 14:15 What should I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my mind. I will sing praises with my spirit, but I will also sing praises with my mind. 14:16 Otherwise, if you are praising God with your spirit, how can someone without the gift say "Amen" to your thanksgiving, since he does not know what you are saying? 14:17 For you are certainly giving thanks well, but the other person is not strengthened. 14:18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you, 14:19 but in the church I want to speak five words with my mind to instruct others, rather than ten thousand words in a tongue.
O (Observation): Paul is addressing the gift of speaking in tongues. He accepts that some will speak in tongues, and some will be able to interpret such utterances as a gift of the Holy Spirit.
However, since not all possess such gifts, he finds that it could be a hindrance (or of no helpful significance) to a fellow believer for one to speak in tongues without also translating these utterances into a message that all can comprehend.
Paul nods to the individual gifting, but also towards what is best for the community.
A (Application): The rugged, pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps individual is an idol in America. We pay homage to those who have made their own way in this world. That is certainly to be respected, but not idolized.
Why not? I believe that notion gives us permission to live isolated lives.
How many of your neighbors do you socialize with on a regular basis? For me, it's about zero. Sure, we know our neighbors, but rarely will we feel called to socialize with them. This is an area in which I'm seeking God's grace.
Jesus lived in 3 dimensions: UP, IN, and OUT – With God, With Disciples, and With the Community. Paul reminds his disciples that living connected to God (UP) is great, but that the OUT dimension and the IN dimension must also be kept in mind.
I wonder if you have given any thought to your place in the Christian community? Do you sing? Are you good at thinking things through logically? Do you receive insights and visions for the world around you?
P (Prayer): Lord, you gift us. Help us to share these gifts in a way that benefits the community around us, for we are not to live unto ourselves alone. Amen.
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Christ did not give us spiritual gifts to use only on ourselves. They were given with the intention that we would share them with others. "Bootstrap Glorifiers" would do well to remember this. Gifts of the spirit are meant to be shared.


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Stan Lee's cause of death not yet known; figurehead of Marvel Comics was 95
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Stan Lee attends the Los Angeles Global Premiere for Marvel Studios' Avengers: Infinity War on April 23, 2018 in Hollywood, California.

Stan Lee, the colorful Marvel Comics patriarch who helped usher in a new era of superhero storytelling -- and saw his creations become a giant influence in the movie business -- has died.
He was 95.
Kirk Schneck, an attorney for Lee's daughter, tells CNN the comic giant died Monday morning. The cause of death is not yet known, according to Schneck.
DC Comics, Marvel's well-known competitor, shared a statement regarding Lee's death on Twitter.
He changed the way we look at heroes, and modern comics will always bear his indelible mark. His infectious enthusiasm reminded us why we all fell in love with these stories in the first place. Excelsior, Stan.
— DC (@DCComics) November 12, 2018
Lee began his career at what was then Timely Comics in 1939. Over the years he was a writer, editor and occasional illustrator. But, bored with the output, he was preparing to leave the company when history took a sudden turn.
For many years, the business had been dominated by DC (then National) Comics, creators of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and the Green Lantern.
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In the late '50s, DC started reimagining its heroes -- kicking off what comics historians call the "Silver Age" of the business -- but those figures were still, largely, otherworldly and two-dimensional, living in made-up places such as Metropolis and Gotham City.
In the early '60s, Lee was asked to come up with a team of superheroes to compete against DC's Justice League. With the notable help of artists such as Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko, he helped instigate a revolution, though Lee didn't see it that way at the time.
"If my publisher hadn't said 'let's do superhero stories,' I'd probably still be doing 'A Kid Called Outlaw,' 'The Two-Gun Kid' or 'Millie the Model' or whatever I was doing at the time," he told CNN in 2013.
Marvel revitalized the comics business with a series of flawed, more human superheroes. Its figures lived in the real world -- a few were based in New York City, with all its dirt and clamor -- and struggled with everyday challenges, whether it was paying the rent or wondering about their purposes in life.
First came the Fantastic Four, a superhero team probably most famous for the grumpy, rock-skinned Thing. Following that success Lee and Marvel introduced such characters as Spider-Man, the Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, the X-Men and Daredevil.
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These new superheroes -- all created in a burst between 1961 and 1964 -- were hugely popular and allowed Marvel to surpass DC in both sales and fashionableness.
Spider-Man, in particular, became the imprint's signature character: a neurotic photographer named Peter Parker who, after being bitten by a radioactive spider, develops spider-like powers. Parker was forever clashing with newspaper editor J. Jonah Jameson (an angry, cigar-chomping martinet who was no Perry White), wondering about his relationship with Mary Jane Watson and worrying about his fragile Aunt May. Crime fighting was the least of his concerns.
"I never thought that Spider-Man would become the worldwide icon that he is. I just hoped the books would sell and I'd keep my job," Lee said in 2006.
Many of the characters were developed for television with varying degrees of success. But it was the emergence of the "Marvel Universe" in the movies, especially with the "X-Men" franchise and the Sam Raimi-directed "Spider-Man" (2002), that truly made the brand ubiquitous. In 2009, the Walt Disney Company purchased Marvel Entertainment -- the licensing arm of the comic-book brand -- for $4 billion.
By that point, Lee had long since become more of a company figurehead rather than a writer and editor in the day-to-day trenches. He became the company's editorial director and publisher in 1972 and eventually immersed himself in spreading the Marvel gospel (often with the exclamation, "Excelsior!") He's had bit parts in most of the films featuring the company's characters.
He was occasionally criticized for egotistically cheerleading for himself as much as Marvel. "Stan the Brand," the authors of "Stan Lee and the Rise and Fall of the American Comic Book" called him, pointedly.
It wasn't all joy for Lee. Though the success of the movies made the characters worth billions, Lee maintained that he saw little of that wealth. Even so, he saw more than artist Kirby, who many comics historians credit with molding a number of characters. Over the years, the credit for the characters -- and, therefore, the profits -- has been the subject of court cases, some involving Kirby or his family.
The characters' impact, however, is indisputable.
Marvel characters are known the world over, and its films have become huge successes.
"I used to be embarrassed because I was just a comic-book writer while other people were building bridges or going on to medical careers," he told the Washington Post. "And then I began to realize: entertainment is one of the most important things in people's lives. Without it they might go off the deep end. I feel that if you're able to entertain people, you're doing a good thing."
He retained a lifelong passion for the medium he helped mold, and wouldn't tolerate disdain.
"Comic book should be written as one word. So from now on, I want you to remember that," he said in a 2012 YouTube video. "They are not funny books. They are not comic books, they are comicbooks! Remember that, or incur my wrath."
Lee filed a suit against his former company, Pow! Entertainment in May, alleging it conspired with two employees to steal his identity.
The company announced in July that the suit had been dismissed by Lee.
"The whole thing has been confusing to everyone, including myself and the fans, but I am now happy to be surrounded by those who want the best for me," Lee said in a statement. "I am thrilled to put the lawsuit behind me, get back to business with my friends and colleagues at POW! and launch the next wave of amazing characters and stories!"
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What I try to do, in everything that deals with children, is focus people's attention on what's best for the child. The goal of child support is to make sure kids have enough financial support to grow up healthy and happy. But the system isn't perfect. Often, when parents split up, trust between them has broken down. A solution that includes both transparency and accountability can reduce the impact this distrust has on both you and your children.
If you're considering separating from your child's other parent, you may want to know how much child support you'll have to pay, or how much you'll receive, to help raise the kids if you do separate. I'll explain what the law says about child support, and help you understand this aspect of your situation.
A lot of people come in well after they've separated, because there are issues with child support enforcement.
I cannot stress enough that when it comes to the law there is always a time constraint.
The more time you have, the more options you have.
When you or your child's other parent have agreed to pay child support or you have been ordered to do so, these payments are usually enforced by the Family Responsibility Office (FRO). If you find yourself unable to keep up with the payments, the FRO can take a number of different actions to enforce payment. This may include garnishing your income from your employment and the government, as well as suspending your driver's license. However, before the FRO can take this action they need to provide you with notice of what they are intending.
I cannot stress enough that when it comes to the law there is always a time constraint. The more time you have the more options you have. It is very important that if you receive anything from the FRO giving you notice of enforcement actions, that you consult with a lawyer as soon as possible.
If the Family Responsibility Office says you owe money, your wages may be garnished, or you may even be facing your driver's licence being revoked. Often the problem is a mis-communication. Maybe no one told the enforcement agency what's happened in the years since you separated. Your income has probably fluctuated, and the amount you were ordered to pay before may not be the amount you should be paying now.
I'll review your case and help you communicate with the Family Responsibility Office to get any errors in child support calculations corrected.
If you believe your child's other parent should be paying more child support than they are, I'll help you look at the situation under the law to see how the amount you're being paid can be changed. Maybe the other parent, who should be paying child support, is under-reporting their income, or maybe your children are living with you now, but you're being asked to pay child support anyway.
We'll examine your situation and review your options for coming to an agreement with the other parent, or, if necessary, bringing your case to court.
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Should coaches enter rosters in NVTBLBaseball.org? Yes, you must enter all of your players in the new website. You can do this under Team Center.
Where will coaches enter game and practice requests? Game and practice requests will be done on the new website. There is a re-direct for this.
Where will coaches score games? Coaches will continue to score games in the old website at NVTBL.org Those scores will automatically be updated on the new website for all to see.
Where will coaches find umpire contact information? Coaches will still find umpire contact information on the old website at NVTBL.org because that is where all back-end scheduling work is done for games and umpires.
Where can I find information on how to use the new website? Sports Engine has a great Help Center that you can find on new website for any and all questions.
Where will NVTBL post tryout information and players/teams looking for teams/players? All of this will be on the new website at NVTBL.org as it is a front-end function.
Can I use the new website as my team/organizations website or webpage? Yes, you have creative rights to edit/manage your individual team page on our new site for FREE.
Do coaches control the permissions of your individual team webpage? Yes, you control who can see/do what on your individual team page.
What is Sports Engine? Sports Engine is the new website platform that hosts the new NVTBLBaseball.org website.
Which website will parents and all other family members use? Everyone will use NVTBLBaseball.org for all front end use. Parents and other family members will have no need to visit the old site. Coaches will use it just for registration, accounting, schedule requests. The only exception is when parents sign the electronic waivers to start the season on the old website.
How do parents join the new Sports Engine NVTBL website? You will receive an email invitation from your coach when he enters you on the roster. You will need to follow the instructions and become a member of Sports Engine and your team.
Will parents and family members have access to the old website? No, you will only use the new website and your parents login/p-word on old site will be inactive.
Where will parents, coaches, families view the schedule? You can view the schedule on NVTBLBaseball.org or the new SE/NVTBL mobile app.
If I am already a member of Sports Engine for another league/team can I use the same account? Yes, you will simply login with that information and accept the invite to your NVTBL team.
Can I create an individual player webpage for my child? Yes, you can do this under your teams web page depending on what editing rights your coach gives you.
Mobile App - NVTBL has a new SE mobile app with incredible functions, which includes a map to all locations.
Tracking - Coaches can track what players will be attending what events through the new website.
Team Web Page - Coaches can use this as their team's web page at no cost.
Fundraising - You can use the new website to create a Rally Me fundraising campaign.
Game Changer - Game Changer is integrated with Sports Engine. NVTBL is still working on how to fully integrate score reporting because as of now there is no function on GC / SE to report rain-outs for accounting purposes.
Tournament Management - Sports Engine has a Tournament Management function that NVTBL may use.
Summer 2019 NVTBL Team registration is OPEN. NOTE: If your 13U or 14U team is already registered for Spring, you do NOT need to register for Summer.
April 28 - Late fees increase to $225.
Spring Season (8U - 12U) - March 30 - June 9:Spring EOS Tournament - June 2 - 9 weekends.
NOTE: All existing teams MUST have all prior season accounting cleared out before scheduling can be processed.
For further assistance regarding Spring 2019 Registration, contact Lisa Lombardozzi at admin@nvtbl.org or 571-765-1561.
NVTBL will allow both USA and USSSA approved bats for the 2019 season. NVTBL does recommend that 14u (8th grade) players begin the transition to BBCOR bats no later than the spring/summer of their 8th grade season.
8U - 12U teams - USA and USSSA bats are approved (coaches may agree ahead of games to only use USA bats for their game(s). Both must agree prior to the game starting.
**BBCOR bats are approved at ALL age levels.
NVBUA/MAC is always looking for new umpires. We do training year round including on-the-job, formal classroom, cage, and field work. Check out our web-site at http://umpires.org, e-mail us at assignor@umpires.org, or call us at 703-978-3601 for more information or to sign up!
Umpires Needed - anyone interested in umpiring 8-12u baseball games in the NVTBL, please contact Lisa Lombardozzi at admin@nvtbl.org or call: (571) 765-1561.
NVTBL which began in 1999 has seen several of our athletes go on to play professional baseball. Congratulations to the athletes and their former NVTBL coaches!
Paul Clemens (NCBC Nationals 2005) was drafted by the Atlanta Braves in 2008 and traded to Houston Astros in 2011. Called up and pitched in long relief against the Nationals in April 2014.
Ryan Lindemuth, who played in NVTBL for the Barnstormers, was drafted by the Pirates in the 2013 Draft and the 2014 by the Yankees.
Steve Lombardozzi, a former NVTBL player who played for the Virginia Bandits and Columbia Red Dogs, is playing with the Pittsburgh Pirates. He played with the Washington Nationals in prior years.
Brandon Snyder, who played in NVTBL primarily with the Northern Virginia Silverhawks was called up to the majors by the Orioles for games in 2010 and 2011. He is with the Boston Red Sox.
Jon Link was drafted by Montreal Expos (2002) and by San Diego Padres (2005) and called up by the Dodgers for games in 2010. He is currently with the Miami Marlins organization.
Brandon Guyer, who played for the Barnstormers and was drafted by the Chicago Cubs. He was traded to Tampa Bay.
Jesse Beal (Vipers 2004-2006, Barnstormers). Drafted by the Orioles in 2008.
If you would like to add players to the list, please send their information to admin@nvtbl.org.


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Q: How to make custom Source Directory in Maven How can i change the source directory in maven. There are several source folders and JSPs in WEB-INF. Its a Java Web Application.
I have Source directory as src. The JSPs are in web-inf/jsp and there are several other folders in web-inf that i want to include in my project like images etc. And also before building my project it also needs build output from another project that is in my eclipse workspace for which the build script is already there. How do i invoke build script from my current POM.

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