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IS THIS CUP HALF EMPTY?
World tourney misses some stars and the old geopolitics
CHARLIE GILLIS September 6 2004
IS THIS CUP HALF EMPTY? CHARLIE GILLIS September 6 2004
FOR A SECOND, it felt like old times. Two days into training camp at the World Cup of Hockey, Pat Quinn, coach of Team Canada, told reporters he was seeking "traitors" in Europe to spy on his opponents—anything to get an edge on the dastardly Russians or Czechs. It was a delightful bit of hokum, summoning a time when geopolitics coloured every on-ice encounter between Canadians and Soviets. It was also a sad reminder: without the Cold War plot lines to stir us, is the World Cup of Hockey worth watching?
Find out in the next two weeks. The tournament, which is organized jointly by the National Hockey League and the NHL Players' Association, is now 13 years removed from its precursor, the Canada Cup. And the ghosts of series past can be awfully hard to top. Between 1972 and 1991, fans on both sides of the Atlantic were treated to six great clashes of styles and on-ice philosophy, underlaid with the political drama of the period. In those days, it was democracy against totalitarianism, the dash of Lafleur versus the genius of Kharlamov, and, frankly, a little pre-tournament espionage wouldn't have been out of the question.
Fast-forward one generation, and almost every international-calibre Russian player is hauling down a seven-figure NHL salary. Most happily nosh with their North American teammates, and an increasing number view the Stanley Cup as their ultimate prize. To complicate matters, professional players have twice been invited to the Winter Olympics, which forced the World Cup into an eight-year hiatus after its 1996 debut. "I think the Olympics have replaced the Canada and World Cups as the ultimate barometer of hockey supremacy," says Joe Pelletier, coauthor of a history book on the summit tournaments, from the 1972 classic up to the modern World Cup. "European players grow up dreaming of the gold medal just like North American kids dream of the Stanley Cup."
Maybe that's why players haven't exactly been breaking down the arena doors to get into this tournament. As Team Canada practised at the University of Ottawa last week, the no-shows were as conspicuous as the newcomers, most notably the physical defensive tandem of Rob Blake and Chris Pronger. The oft-injured but supremely talented Mario Lemieux was there, but not the recuperating Steve Yzerman—to some the team's heart and soul. The Americans, Czechs and Swedes have all lost key players, too, while no fewer than five Russians have decided not to play for their team.
Most of the absentees have blamed nagging injuries or, if they're free agents, insurance concerns. But others seem to lack the old-time hockey spirit that you'd expect from players given the opportunity to represent their countries. The Russians, for instance, appear to be simply avoiding a team in disarray (goaltender Nikolai Khabibulin described the squad as "total chaos"). A few, however, acknowledge that between the NHL, the Olympics and the annual International Ice Hockey Federation championships in Europe, they've simply been playing too much. Sami Kapanen, a speedy Finn who plays for the Philadelphia Flyers and represented his country at the 2002 Winter Games, passed on the World Cup because of exhaustion. Even the indefatigable Scott Niedermayer, who's been wearing the maple leaf in tournaments since his junior days, is feeling the effects. "You're playing a lot of hockey over the course of four, five or six years when you're counting these events," said the veteran Canadian defenceman after practice in Ottawa. "It's exciting to be part of them. I guess you get the rest when you can."
The good news for organizers is that fans are bearing up as well as Niedermayer—for now. This month's eight-team event kicks off with an NHL lockout in the offing, so the die-hards are soaking up as much puck as they can get. And in Canada, nothing produces buzz like hockey stars. Last week, autograph hounds clad in red jerseys lined the barricades around the University of Ottawa Sports Complex, hoping to catch a peek of their heroes leaving practice. Kathleen Desmarais, 36, used her cellphone camera to get a snapshot of Joe Sakic. "This feels more at home, they're closer to us," she said when asked how the World Cup compares to the Olympics. "It's more of an event where people can get glimpses of them here and there, whereas when they're at the Olympics, they're farther away. I think this is better."
There are even a few new plot lines. Wayne Gretzky, a fixture on Team Canada during the '80s and '90s and architect of the current squad, increasingly sees the Americans as Canada's greatest foe, a theory affirmed last week when the U.S. beat Canada 3-1 in an exhibition match. "That Canada-Soviet rivalry was something the Canadian public geared themselves to watch," Gretzky told Maclean's. "Now it's more of a Canada-U.S. rivalry, and I think Canadian fans are appreciating that the American hockey system has gotten a lot better in the last decade. Personally, I expect it to get better in the future." If the Americans falter, he added, as many as four other teams—the Russians, Swedes, Finns or Czechs—could step forward to win this month's championship.
It's not quite the stuff of John le Carré novels. Or, for that matter, the most hohum of Canada Cups. But with the NHL now voicing doubts about allowing players to attend the 2006 Winter Games in Turin, Italy, the World Cup may finally be getting its chance. If a lockout drags into January, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has said, players won't be attending the Olympics. The next meaningful international tournament, then, would be another World Cup, where scores would be settled, rivalries renewed and new grudges born. In the absence of geopolitical conflict, that's about all a hockey fan can ask.
'IT WAS TIME TO SPEAK UP'
We waited a while to see it, but at the 2002 Winter Games in Salt Lake City, Wayne Gretzky finally showed his dark side. With the players he'd hand-picked in his role as Team Canada's executive director under fire for tepid play, the Great One unleashed a post-game torrent of nationalistic vitriol, summing up the criticism as a "crock of crap." The diatribe bore echoes of Phil Esposito's soliloquy in defence of his beleaguered teammates during the 1972 Summit Series against the Soviets. It also solidified Gretzky's place as spiritual leader of Canadian hockey: buoyed by their leader's words, the Canadians bounced back to take Olympic gold. Now the director of Canada's World Cup team, Gretzky talked to CHARLIE GILLIS about patriotism, politics and the great frozen game.
You've become a kind of rainmaker in Canadian hockey since Salt Lake. How does that sit with you?
We're taught at a very young age in Canada that it's an exciting thing to represent your country. I think whether you're a manager, a coach, a player or part of the training staff, you're always honoured to be involved in one of these events. It's a thrill.
Did you mean to sound like Esposito during that post-game news conference in 2002?
Nah. There was a combination of things that led up to what I said. As a group, we were starting to feel the pressure that had been on us since the start of the Games. You could feel it in the locker room. So it wasn't planned; it was one of those things that just happens. There had been a late hit in the game on one of our players, and Canadian hockey had been taking cheap shots for years in the European media. I just thought it was time to speak up.
Are there too many world tournaments in elite hockey?
It's something you'd want to ask the players. For me, I guess it comes down to this: when I call up players to tell them I want them to be part of Team Canada, each one is genuinely thrilled by the offer. They seem to relish it, whatever the tournament. So at this point, I'd say no.
Is it true you were one of three players who turned up for a team luncheon with [then-prime minister] Pierre Trudeau after the 1981 Canada Cup?
Yeah, but I don't know if I want to go there. It makes everybody look bad. You have to understand that we'd gone to camp in June for that tournament, so we'd been [in Montreal] for seven or eight weeks, and everybody had made arrangements to go home. I just happened to be one of the guys not racing to get out of town. It turned out to be a nice luncheon with the prime minister. I was there with Larry Robinson. I think Butch Goring showed up, too.
When you played with him on Team Canada in 1987, could you have imagined being Mario Lemieux's manager?
Ha, ha. No, you don't think that far ahead. I wasn't even on a line with Mario until [coach] Mike Keenan put us together about three-quarters of the way through that tournament. So I guess things can change a lot.
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Adafruit's Feather nRF52840 Express Board and Developing with CircuitPython
By John Leonard June 5, 2019
The Nordic-powered Feather nRF52840 Express has been flying off the shelves. We take a closer look at the capabilities of the board and the associated development tools.
Adafruit's latest Nordic equipped rapid development board
Adafruit has been around since 2005, when it was founded by Limor Fried, an MIT-educated electrical engineer, aka 'Ladyada'. The moniker pays tribute to another female innovator of the engineering world, Lady Ada Lovelace, who was the daughter of poet and bon-viveur Lord Byron and did work on Charles Babbage's mechanical general purpose computer. But I digress...
Ms Fried and her company Adafruit have over time built a very solid reputation for offering exciting and innovative open-source kits, software and accessories for the maker and inventor markets. They offer a number of kits using Nordic parts, the most recent of which is the Feather nRF52840 Express board.
The Feather nRF52840 Express
At first glance, this is a small and unassuming little board, but it hides plenty of power.
First of all, it hosts the Bluefruit LE module, which has the nRF52840 multiprotocol SoC inside. The nRF52840 has everything but the kitchen sink on its silicon and really is an amazing little device.
The Bluefruit LE module is a pre-certified module with just about all interfaces and GPIO available at its edge. This means if you start getting really advanced on your maker journey, you can start designing your own circuits and use the Bluefruit LE module in your product runs.
Where Adafruit have really brought something special to the party is with all of the software and tools support it offers. This means you can start making stuff simply and quickly without the need for 20 years experience as an embedded software developer.
CircuitPython support
Python is the fastest growing programming language worldwide. It is a powerful, high-level programming language that is popular in a range of industries including Data Science and automation scripts.
Python is an interpreted language. This means a central piece of code called a Virtual Machine (VM) takes the code you write, interprets it, and does something with it. VMs are very common in the world of computing. They are used by the likes of Java and Javascript as well as Python.
Within the embedded world, there are differing views on the use of VMs. On the plus side, they can offer fairly predictable behavior and reduce the possibility for errors lurking in the code. However, they limit absolute control of the hardware and the ability to tune for performance the way a language like C can.
Python was initially developed to run on computers with lots of resources. Some adaptation was needed to create a version that could fit easily on microcontrollers that have memory and resource constraints. CircuitPython is an open source version of Python for microcontrollers and embedded devices. It is derived from MicroPython and really is just about adding embedded support to regular Python so it can interact with the world - meaning electronics, motors, sensors, small microcontrollers and the like. Other than that, it is almost totally compatible with regular Python language use. You can find out more about CircuitPython here.
Arduino IDE support
This feather board can be used with the popular Arduino tools, used by millions of people around the world. This allows you to tap into the massive number of libraries that exist as a part of the Arduino community.
Other code editors and IDEs can be used if you are familiar with them. For beginners, the Mu editor is the easiest place to begin. Arduino is very similar to C++, which like CircuitPython is an object-oriented language that offers a lot of possibility.
Unlike CircuitPython, Arduino/C++ is a compiled language. Your code is what runs the microcontroller and interacts directly with what is available on that microcontroller. C++ has its origins in the C language and so while very powerful, it is not as easy to use nor as readable as CircuitPython. However, it's good to have choices to consider, and the Feather nRF52840 Express offers you both.
Using standard Nordic toolchain and software
In addition to the great rapid prototyping and ease of use when using either Arduino or CircuitPython, the Feather nRF52840 Express can be used as a normal development board together with the extensive Nordic software, supporting Bluetooth LE, Bluetooth mesh, Thread and Zigbee.
This requires some knowledge of using Nordic toolchains and although I wouldn't recommend it for a beginner, it is possible
Accompanying apps for iOS and Android
Adafruit offer a broad range of development tools and software to support the Feather nRF52840 Express board. There are flash programming apps and much more.
Their Bluefruit LE Connect apps for iOS and Android offer direct control with digital and analog interfaces and pins on the device itself. You can also plot graphs based on parameter info from sensors, pass GPS data from the phone over to the device and get full visibility of all Bluetooth LE profiles, services and characteristics in use.
The extensive Adafruit Feather ecosystem
There is plenty of stuff you can get on the Adafruit store to pimp-up your Feather nRF52840 Express. Feather wings (I do love Adafruit's approach to marketing) are add-ons that bring external devices and possibilities to your new favorite board. These include ethernet connectivity, e-ink displays, power switching relays and stepper motor wings.
If you need it, Adafruit has it, and at astonishingly reasonable prices. This is advanced technology and inventing, democratised. Check out the Feather wings selection here.
Ready to invent on day one
The Feather nRF52840 Express is pre-loaded with the UF2 bootloader and supports drag-and-drop programming directly from either the Arduino or CircuitPython IDEs. There are lots of great examples of things you can do with the phone apps available and much of the connectivity is via simple APIs that resemble normal UART interactions.
For those wanting to dig deeper there is a 10-pin SWD connector for hooking up regular debugging tools.
The Feather nRF52840 measures just 51mm x 23mm x 7.2mm and weighs 0.6 grams. It can be powered directly from a LiOn battery for stacks of usage time. This could conceivably be years from just a single charge.
The Feather nRF52840 Express retails at just $24.95. It's a snip at that price and has been selling fast. Get yourself one here.
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Q: How to create a cocoa touch framework from a code that depends on 3rd party libraries? I am trying to create a cocoa touch framework out of my existing app so it can be embedded in other apps via a simple drag and drop.
The thing is my app uses a lot of libraries and have been using cocoapods to manage dependencies.
I already know how to build a simple framework but I couldn't find a source that talked about how to turn a complex project with lots of dependency into a framework.
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*if yes what's the right way to do it?

*Assuming all of the above were resolved, what happens when the parent app also contains some of the same libraries that are being used in my framework?


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Balaghat District is located the south eastern portion of the Satpura Range and the upper valley of the Wainganga River. The district extends from 21°19 to 22°24 north latitude and 79°31 to 81°3 east longitude. The total area of the district is 9,245 km². Balaghat District is bounded by Mandla District of Madhya Pradesh to the north, Dindori District to the northwest, Rajnandgaon District of Chhattisgarh state to the east, Gondia and Bhandara districts of Maharashtra state to the south, and Seoni District of Madhya Pradesh to the west. the Main language spoken in district is Hindi, Gondi in Baihar Ukwa, Lodhi in paraswada, Northern parts of Balaghat tehsil and Bharveli, Kalari in Lanji kirnapur, Pawari in western parts i.e. Waraseoni, Katangi Lalbarra and Marathi in the southern part of district. The Wainganga is important river of the district. The southern part of the Vindhyan Range up to Katangi is called Lower Bhander Range. Beyond this point the escarpment enclosing the land-locked valley of Sirampur and the hill range in continuation is called the Kaimur Range.
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About KVK- Krishi Vigyan Kendra, Betul was established in April 2002. The KVK is working to bridge the gap between production and productivity and to increase self employment opportunities among the farming communities. The training offered here follow the principals of "learning by doing" .It offers skill and knowledge oriented trainings in multi-disciplinary areas like crop production and plant protection, horticulture, animal science and fisheries, Home science and agriculture extension. The KVK is the light house of knowledge to the farming community of the district. The basic mandates are (1) Conducting "On Farm Testing" for identifying technology in terms of location specific sustainable land use(2) Organize training to update the extension personal with emerging advances in agriculture research on regular basis (3) Organize short and long term vocational training courses and allied vacation for the farmer and rural youth with emphasis on "Learning by Doing" for higher productions on farm and generating self employment (4) Organize "Front Line Demonstration" on various crops to generate production data and feedback information.
Krishi Vigyan Kendra, Chhindwara was established on 27.04.84 under the auspices of Jawaharlal Nehru Krishi VishwaVidyalaya, Jabalpur. The core principle of the center is that the coordination between farmers, agricultural women, rural youth, extension workers and scientists should be established in such a way that the spread of technology can lead to rejuvenation and mutual trust in the transformation and adoption. The scientists of the center establish cordial contact with the farmers so that the farmers can get the proper solution of their problems. KVK takes care of farming community with addition of technical knowledge and work efficiency by adopting the principle of learning by doing. Programs for farmers, landless agricultural laborers and women in line with the area are prepared which can increase their income and raise their standard of living. Indian Council of Agricultural Research, New Delhi has prescribed mandates for successful and effective operation of agricultural science centers, which is as follows: 1. On Farm Testing of recommended research techniques on farmers farms and improving the situation. 2. Demonstrating new agricultural techniques of oilseeds, pulses and other crops on the farmers' fields. 3. To conduct inter-session training for extension workers of various departments. 4. To impart ON and OFF campus training to rural youth, farmers farm woman on improved technology of agriculture. 5. Knowledge resource centre for all agricultural activities.
Damoh is a district of Madhya Pradesh State located in Central India. The district is part of Sagar Division. It is situated in the north-eastern part of the State and geographically located at 23 deg 09' North Latitude and 79 deg 03' east Longitude. The district is surrounded by Sagar in the West, Narsinghpur Jabalpur in the South, Chhatarpur in the North, Panna Katni in the East. Krishi Vigyan Kendra, Damoh was established in the March 2005 funded by ICAR New Delhi with the aim to transfer the refined agricultural technologies for cost effective enhancement of agricultural production and to empower the weaker sections of the society for livelihood security. Besides the immense contribution in socio economic upliftment of peasants, provided vocational trainings not only in agriculture but also in other self reliant, income generating activities enterprises such as tailoring, candle making, bakery products, fruits and vegetable preservation. Innovative programmes like e-linkage, kisan mobile sandesh, crop cafeteria, technology park, meadow orchard, rejuvenation of old orchards, development of scion bank, adoption of SRI in paddy and ridge and furrow system of planting in soybean etc. In short the aim of Krishi Vigyan Kendra is to reduce the time lag between Generation of technology at the research institutions and it's transfer to the farmer's field for increasing production, productivity and income from the agriculture and allied sectors on a sustained basis.
Krishi Vigyan Kendra (KVK),Jabalpur was established in the year 2004 funded by ICAR with the aim to transfer the refined agricultural technologies for cost effective enhancement of agricultural production and to empower the weaker sections of the society for livelihood security. Activities of KVK : 1. On-farm trials to identify the location specific technologies in various farming systems 2. Front line demonstrations (FLDs) to establish production potentials on the farmers fields 3. Training of farmers and farm women to update their knowledge and skills in modern agricultural technologies and training of extension personnel to orient them in the frontier areas of technology development 4. Work as resource and knowledge centre of agricultural technology for supporting initiatives of public, private and voluntary sector for improving the agricultural economy of the district. 5. Create awareness about frontier technologies through large number of extension activities like farmers fair, field day, strategic campaign, ex-trainees meet etc.
Krishi Vigyan Kendra Narsinghpur has been established in the year 2004.It comes under Agro Climatic Zone	VI Central Narmada Valley. It has six blocks and five tehsils. Soil Type of the District is Medium Black Soil. Geographical Area of district Narsinghpur is 513651 ha, Net Sown Area 308785 ha., Area Under Forest 136207 ha.,Fallow Land 9200 ha., wast Land 14600 ha., Irrigated Land 198347 ha., Area Under Kharif Crops 115878 ha.,Area Under Rabi Crops 263932 ha.,Cropping Intensity	137.48 %. Total Population	of district is 1092141. Impact of KVK: (a)	Package of improved practices of pulseoil seed crops (i.e .Varietal, INM,IPM,IDM proper spacing practices) provided adopted technology in 30% area of the district,on average yield incease 4-6 qtlha (additional income Rs 10,000- per ha) and overall monitory gain 70.5 crore annually. (b)	Technology provided to control top shoot borer(cabofuran30kgha)and pyrilla(Malathion500 mlha)along with other IPM practices in sugarcane. Technology adopted by more than 40% farmers and gain 3-5 tonne additional yieldha with Rs 6000-10000- net incomeha . (c)	Farmers motivated for balance nutrient application including Zinc Sulphur specially on soil test basis. More than 5% of the farmers(5000 farmers) using soil test basis nutrient application. (d)	Under the women Empowerment programme 110 women trained for Sewing and embroidery Handicraft items out of which 13 women started their own centre and working as master trainer.
Mandates: •	Conducting "On Farm Testing" for identifying technology in terms of location specific sustainable land use. •	Organize training to update the extension personal with emerging advances in agriculture research on regular basis. •	Organize short and long term vocational training cources and allied vacation for the farmer and rural youth with emphasis on "Learning by Doing" for higher productions on farm and generating self employment. •	Organise "Front Line Demonstration" on various crops to generate production data and feedback information.
Establishment of KVK Shahdol: 1994 Since inception of KVK conducted 66 OFTs (708 farmers), 113 FLDs (1000 farmers) and 892 training programmes (20040 farmers) in the District. Major crops in Kharif is Paddy followed by Maize, Soybean, Urd and in Rabi Wheat, Gram Mustard etc are the major crops. Under paddy cultivation total area is 1.47 lakh ha and average yield of paddy is 13 qtha. KVK Shahdol started SRI in 2007 with 8 ha and 10 farmers. Today (2010) total area under SRI is 12000 ha with, and crop production has increased double. KVK Shahdol has designed and developed a Farm Implement "Jawahar Paddy Plant Marker" for SRI. In Soybean KVK Shahdol introduced several new varieties of Soybean JS 75-46, JS-335,JS 95-60, and JS 97-52, in Gram JG-315, JG-130, Vijay, JG-11 and in Urd JU-3, PDU-1, PU-19, PU-35 etc.KVK Shahdol introduced Soybean in year 95-96 with variety JS 75-46. Before 95-96 area under Soybean was only 3479 ha and average yield was 5.26 qtha, after replacement of varieties and other technologies, the area has increased to nearly 7000 ha and present level of productivity is 11qtha. In Urd, YMV was the major problem for Urd cultivation theeby the area was decreasing year after year. KVK has conducted different trainings and educate the farmers in details about different diseases and its pest control measures. KVK introduced new variety PU-4 in the district. Cultivation area of Urd has increased from 17115ha to 20000 ha and productivity 2.2 qtha to 2.8 qtha.
Krishi Vigyan Kendra (KVK) is a noble concept developed by Indian Council of Agricultural Research (ICAR) which was rest upon a solid base of transfer of technology from laboratory to farmers field with respect to Agriculture, Horticulture, Animal Husbandry, Floriculture, Bee keeping, Mushroom Cultivation, Broiler Farming and allied subjects. Krishi Vigyan Kendra, Sidhi was granted by the Indian Council of Agricultural Research, New Delhi to JNKVV, Jabalpur in the year 1994. This KVK comes under Kymore Plateau and Satpura Hill Zone which is characterized with undulated topology with low soil depth. It forms the northeastern boundary of the state. Sidhi is well known for its natural beauty, historical importance and rich cultural roots. Sidhi possesses abundant natural resources with the river Sone draining the district and with coal deposits which feed major industries across the country.
Krishi Vigyan Kendra (KVK), Singrauli was established in the year 2017 funded by ICAR with the aim to transfer the agricultural technologies for cost effective enhancement of agricultural production and to empower the weaker sections of the society for livelihood security. Besides the immense contribution in socio economic upliftment of peasants, provided vocational trainings not only in agriculture but also in other self reliant, income generating activitiesenterprises such as tailoring, candle making, fruits and vegetable preservation. Innovative programmes like e-linkage, kisan mobile sandesh, crop cafeteria, technology park, meadow orchard, adoption of SRI in paddy the area of scanted rice in Hoshangabad approximately 1.3 lac ha and farmer use of ridge and furrow system of planting in soybean, SMI in mustered agriculture productivity of mazor crops like paddy, soybean, wheat, gram etc. The Singrauli district got 1st price in wheat production productivity from last Three year in India.
welcome to Krishi Vigyan Kendra Umaria K.V.K. Umaria has started during 2007. It is located under Agro climatic Zone III i.e. northern Hills Zone of Chhattisgarh and popularly is known for Badhavgarh National Park. Topography of this Distt. is hilly and undulated. The geographical area of distt is four lac fifty thousand ha out of which 53% area covered by forest and 24% covered by cultivable land . The remaining area (8 %) of waste land . It is a tribal distt. and have 48.20% scheduled tribes out of the total population (4.33 lac). Major soils of the distt are red and yellow (50%) followed by sandy soils (26%) and Red mix black(24%). Average rainfall is 1374mm. Major cereal crops of the distt. are Paddy (44000 ha) followed by Maize (40600 ha) and minor millets (18800 ha) of kharif and Wheat (26200 ha) in rabi. Major pulse crops are pigeon pea (5100 ha) and Urd (3000 ha) in Kharif while Gram (5900 ha) and lentil (5300 ha) of Rabi. Major oilseed namely sesame ( 2400ha) and linseed (3700 ha) are also grown but Mustard (7500 ha) and soybean (50 ha ) crops are the new introduction . Major fruit crops are Mango, Guava , Aonla and custard apple in vegetable crops Tomato, Potato Brinjal, Chilli are grown (Area 684 ha) . The fertilizer consumption of the distt is too low (NPK- 21.8:15.5:1.32 kgha) i.e. total 39.02 kgha and seed substitution rate is 3.27%. The irrigation facility is only in 18% area .The crop intensity is 129%.


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Another North Carolina Meeting Bails Out. Who's Next?
September 17, 2015 Chuck Fager	6 Comments
A year ago, on August 30, 2014, Friends from Pine Hill Meeting of Ararat, NC, were at North Carolina Yearly Meeting-FUM's annual session, demanding a purifying division in NCYM, to banish the iniquity of "dual affiliation."
The "dual affiliation" which was so repugnant was membership by a handful of NCYM meetings in Piedmont Friends Fellowship (PFF). A loose regional network of meetings from various YMs (and none), PFF was founded in the 1960s, and is connected to the liberal association, Friends General Conference (FGC).
NOTE: At the request of Pine Hill's Ministry & Counsel, I have fuzzed out the faces of the children and youths in this photograph who appear to be under eighteen. The unretouched version of this photo remains on the Pine Hill website.
The PFF/FGC axis was so offensive to many in Pine Hill because it included Friends who supported, among other things, same sex marriage, the open presence of LGBTQ folks; diverse and even skeptical attitudes toward the Bible as "God's final authority"; a generous approach to Christianity and other paths as ways to "salvation"; plus they were opposed to creeds.
Pine Hill and several other meetings demanded that the split be consummated that same day, specifically by obliging the "tainted" meetings & their members to immediately resign from NCYM. Several other meetings echoed the cry.
Their drive was stopped that day by the staunch witness of the Clerk, Bill Eagles, who rightly pointed out that–
A. Quakers don't make decisions that way; and
B. there was nothing like a clear consensus or "unity" behind this plan, no matter how loudly the Pine Hill activists and their supporters shouted and clapped.
(This summary based on the 2014 YM Minutes, which are not online.)
Now fast-forward to September 13, 2015: last First Day (Sunday) evening.
In a lightly-attended business meeting, Pine Hill Meeting achieved its goal of a separation from these tainted groups.
But it didn't happen quite the way they were expecting in 2014. Instead, it was Pine Hills that resigned from NCYM, "effective immediately."
This was a sharp reversal for the group. In an August 13, 2014 open letter, the meeting insisted that "Pine Hill Friends has no plans to leave the North Carolina Yearly Meeting or withhold our Askings."[i.e., yearly meeting dues]
This move leaves four prominent Pine Hill members in unexpected exile: Brent McKinney, who has served in many NCYM positions, and even as Presiding Clerk of its larger association, Friends United Meeting; his wife, Brenda McKinney, who is currently president of the NC United Society of Friends Women, an NCYM group; and Billy Britt, who retired after twenty years as NCYM Superintendent; and his wife Viola Britt, who is a member of the NCYM Executive Committee.
Brent McKinney, former Acting NCYM Superintendent, longtime Clerk of Friends United Meeting. Now a homeless ex-Pine Hill member.
To retain their posts, all will have to find another local meeting home. (Last year, during the purge debate, Billy Britt, though strongly evangelical in his outlook, declined to join the purge outcry. "Billy stands against splitting," record the minutes. "He said splitting is not the answer." (NCYM 2014 minutes, page 32.)
Meanwhile, all but one of the "dually affiliated" meetings they were so troubled by are still part of NCYM. And they are, if anything, more unabashed in asserting their religious diversity within the NCYM constituency.
Those demanding a purge in 2014 insisted that they did not want to "kick out" any meetings; rather, by insisting on their departure, the purgers avowed that they were showing Christian love.
But unsurprisingly, to the meetings they said had to go RIGHT NOW, the situation looked rather different. And perhaps to the purge advocates' surprise, the liberal meetings had their own attachments to NCYM (some going back 250 years). Over the ensuing months, the liberals stood up for themselves and resisted efforts to provide Pine Hill and the others a sense of "purity" and "unity" by allowing themselves to be scapegoated and forced out.
With Pine Hill's abrupt departure, it joins three other evangelical meetings in a newly independent status. Prosperity Meeting announced its exit early in August. Two others, Poplar Ridge and Holly Spring were expelled by the NCYM Executive Committee on August 20. (See our reports on that episode here, here, and here.)
Poplar Ridge & Holly Spring were also leaders in the instant purge push at last year's annual session. And while their expulsion was overturned by the 2015 annual session on September 5, the two meetings announced that they were leaving NCYM behind regardless.
So that makes four evangelical meetings which have left NCYM, to one small liberal PFF-affiliated group. It seems plausible that there will be more evangelical departures: A prime candidate is Chatham Meeting, which is pastored by Wayne Lamb. Lamb was another voice urging an instant purge of NCYM last year.
Lamb has also vehemently denounced the liberal meetings, and threatened several times to take the meeting out of NCYM if the liberal taint was not expunged. And NCYM Treasurer's reports show that of its $6975 in yearly meeting dues (called "Askings") for 2015, Chatham had paid exactly $0 as of the end of August. Further, Chatham had no representative to the NCYM annual sessions listed in its program. NCYM officials declined to say whether Chatham had given notice; but these are telltale signs.
How many more meetings will follow Pine Hill's example? Some of the louder voices in the 2014 sessions repeatedly predicted that their views represented the overwhelming majority in NCYM.
So far, however, the shuffle to the exits has not become a stampede.
But tomorrow is another day.
NOTE: Pine Hill's letters announcing and explaining its departure are online here.
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Don't let the door hit you and so forth.
Ann F Hass says:
Thank you for getting out good information quickly and well documented. Reading all the hyperlinked letters is disheartening but gives a true, unfiltered picture of reality. Recognizing reality is essential to find paths that can take us into a future together. NCYM members are sincere, indeed passionate, about wanting to be deeply spiritual Christ-followers. For hundreds of years we have been able to have unique personalities, flavors for our "peculiar" members. And it's worked! When did Quakers walk in lock-step…successfully? God made us unique, each and every one. We're special. We're children of the Light. Light and Love.
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Q: Link to a html file within a repository from trac wiki I am attempting to link from my wiki to web documentation within the source repository. This functionality I think is provided by using "export" links, e.g.
[export:path/to/file/index.html]
(after setting [browser] render_unsafe_content = yes)
However, when I do this I get the following browser error:
This page contains the following errors:

error on line 17 at column 10: Opening and ending tag mismatch: link line 0 and head
Below is a rendering of the page up to the first error.

(followed by a small snippet of the html page I'm trying to display).
I'm using trac v 1.1.
(see also this related question: How to link to html file in Trac)
UPDATE:
It seems using export does work with other html files, specifically, there's no problem with an xhtml document starting:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>

but I am seeing issues with a (valid) html5 document starting:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">
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which I think trac is attempting to parse as xml and then failing.

A: To create a hyperlink to a file within your repository you can simply use the following wiki syntax:
[browser:<path> <label>]

Where path is the path to the file within your repository and label is the text to be displayed for the link.


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ETech: Google Prediction Market Datamining Shows Meatspace Matters
Author: Ryan SingelRyan Singel
For the past two and half years, Google employees have bet on internal company projects – a tool known as a prediction market -, providing plenty of data for the company to mine to figure out how information flows internally.
The result is surprisingly ironic for the internet giant.
Physical proximity trumps all other factors in determining how people bet.
Essentially, people who sit near each other tend to vote like each other. Location far outpaces other factors such as what projects people have worked on in the past, job title, what internal email lists they are on, what colleges they attended or who has worked on code in the past.
That's according to Bo Cowgill, the Googler who runs the internal prediction market which uses fake money to decide winners and losers. At the end of each quarter, the top earners get their name on the leader board and get cash prizes or t-shirts for having correctly predicted the answer to questions such as how many users Gmail will have by the end of 2007.
In order to interpret the data, Cowgill dug deep on the more than a thousand
Googlers who have made more than 85,000 trades since the project started.
Google knows the GPS position of every desk in every office it owns. It knows if that desk in in a cubicle or an open environment. It knows when employees move – on average, every 90 days. It knows which email lists people are on, and even which email threads they participated in. They have deep insight into social networking at Google know if employees are friends on Facebook. They know who has reported to whom and who has reviewed whose code.
After combing through all this data, Cowgill found that "micro-geographic networks" are where information flows.
"Space matters, that's the bottom line," Cowgill told attendees at the
O'Reilly Emerging Technology conference Tuesday in San Diego."It's ironic for
Google where we sell products to let people overcome distance."
Cowgill says the market has proven to be quite good at predictions, but is just one tool for internal decision making. It's real use, according to Cowgill, is in the anonymous conversation that happens since only he sees who is making what bets. Participants in a given market don't know if they are betting against their co-worker, the masseuse or even Sergey Brin.
"The prediction market is a conversation among employees," Cowgill said. "This is a conversation that is happening without politics and no one has any incentive to kiss up, fudge the numbers or sandbag."
Much is still unknown and these results are only the beginning of his study.
Next up, how did insiders – people who have access to non-widely known information - behave in the markets.
Some questions will never be allowed, however, since they could end up violating federal insider trading rules. For instance, any market that would predict if Google was going to meet revenue targets might be intelligent enough that everyone who participates or looks at the results is actually looking at insider data, albeit translated into a prediction market.
Oh, and as for whether managers are smarter than their underlings, Cowgill says the data doesn't bear that out.
"Being high up in the company does not correlate to making good predictions, which may or may not surprise some people," Cowgill said.
Correction: The original version of this story said that Google knew if their employees were friends on Facebook. Cowgill says his study absolutely did not rely on that data, and that he mentioned Facebook only as a easily understood analogue of the kind of internal social networking data he relied on. I regret the error. My notes from the talk say "we have all kinds of amazing data about social networks at google – two ppl connected on facebook." I regret the error.
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Good mysteries exist in every setting
By Bay Area News Group |
PUBLISHED: November 11, 2007 at 4:04 a.m. | UPDATED: August 15, 2016 at 7:15 p.m.
All kinds of stories can be mysteries. A wide variety of backgrounds, locations, centuries and protagonists make this field appealing to all kinds of readers.
As the days grow short and reading in a warm room becomes ever more appealing, try a traditional mystery in a contemporary American venue, one that twists the format in unexpected ways, or a historical setting that lets you visit the past — or even one that's entertainingly off-the-wall.
"Hard Row," by Margaret Maron (Hachette Book Group, $24.99, 304 pages). A new book about Judge Deborah Knott is cause for celebration. This is the 13th book in the series, and Maron has yet to disappoint.
On the domestic front, Deborah has married Dwight Bryant, the deputy sheriff who was a childhood friend, and has become a fulltime stepmom to Dwight's son, Cal. Meanwhile, in court, she has been dealing with a barroom brawl with serious racial overtones.
But the big news in law enforcement is the discovery of a man's body parts at assorted locations on the back roads. The search for the victim's identity and his killer leads to the shadowy world of the local farm workers.
There's another agricultural angle as well, as Deborah's family (most of her 11 brothers live in the area) must decide how to respond to the loss of government support for growing tobacco.
It's all very interesting, and woven into the fabric of the story so it never feels extraneous. Maron combines elements of the police procedural with an examination of contemporary issues, along with a dollop of the domestic life often associated with cozies.
In fact, she has created characters who grow and change in realistic ways and yet remain dynamically themselves, with all the qualities we've come to enjoy over the previous dozen books.
"Broken Heartland," by J.M. Hayes (Poisoned Pen Press, 238 pages, $22.95). Hayes' stories of small-town Kansas, each of which takes place in a single day, are complicated, convoluted, high-speed and a lot of fun. They move too fast for the reader to spend much time figuring out what's happening; if you leave the book for a longish break, you're likely to have lost the thread when you come back.
Sheriff English, grieving for his dead wife, is running for re-election against a radical right-wing opponent whose idea of a debate is to suggest that one of English's daughters had an abortion. Meanwhile, a deputy sheriff has a spectacular car crash, and English's half-brother, a born-again Cheyenne, is the victim of vandalism. There's also a student with a gun and a private army hiding out on a farm.
Then English's daughters both return from college and get involved in the cascading flood of events. There are narrow escapes and no escapes, a lot of characters sometimes moving at cross-purposes, and even a little sex and humor.
The subject matter is too serious for the book to be considered a romp, but it has some of those qualities.
"Three Bags Full," by Leonie Swann (Doubleday, $22.95, 342 pages).
The cover describes this as "a sheep detective story." Maybe that's all you need to know.
Swann's debut novel is narrated by a flock of Irish sheep, distressed at the death of George, their shepherd, whose body is found impaled by a spade.
Fortunately, George used to read to them, including some detective stories, so they have some idea of what to do. Led by Miss Maple, the cleverest sheep in Glenkill, and the black ram Othello, the flock go on recon missions and try to understand the humans, who are greatly hampered, the sheep think, by their poor sense of smell.
So, yes, the story requires a willing suspension of disbelief, but your patience will be rewarded. Watching the sheep try to understand the people is quite funny, and evokes some pathos as well.
"Mrs. Jeffries and the Feast of St. Stephen," by Emily Brightwell (Berkely Prime Crime, $22.95, 272 pages).
This falls into the better-late-than-never category, as there are more than 20 Mrs. Jeffries mysteries, and this is the first one I've read.
Mrs. J. is the housekeeper for the English policeman Inspector Witherspoon, who is aided in all his cases by his devoted household staff. Not that he knows it … they let him think he solves them himself.
So when Stephen Whitfield dies, apparently of poison, at his pre-Christmas dinner party, the inspector gets the case — and his staff gets busy. Each has his or her own sources — indeed, the book is a veritable case study of below-stairs Victorian life — as they investigate Whitfield and his guests.
What they learn is much like what Witherspoon learns: No one seems to have wanted Whitfield dead.
There are a lot of characters, and some seem rather thinly portrayed, but the book is fun and the solution ingenious.
"Keep It Real," by Bill Bryan (Bleak House, $13.95, 325 pages). I nearly didn't get past the opening paragraphs of this debut novel, in which our hero, reality TV producer Ted Collins, describes — in detail — his assumptions about the pubic hair of a woman he doesn't like.
My usual response to this sort of thing is to acknowledge, yes, some cretins think this way, but I don't have to waste my time reading them.
But I stuck with the book long enough to discover that in addition to being a credible mystery, it's also quite funny. Ted, a former investigative reporter who lost his career and his family, is still a decent guy, and his forays in an industry where he loathes both himself and the people he works for are compelling.
The mystery focuses on the disappearance of the beautiful girlfriend of a rap star. Since Ted saw the couple at the estate of his ex-wife's current husband, a big-time entertainment lawyer, he is interested enough to get the rapper onto "The Mogul," the "Apprentice"-like TV show he works on.
From there, things spiral out of control. There's a sexy policewoman, a trash-talking best friend, his beyond-irony boss, several deaths and near-deaths and an incisive shredding of the L.A. scene. Throughout, Ted remains determined to have more time with his 7-year-old daughter, which goes a long way in redeeming him from being another jerk who thinks with his crotch.
It's a Mystery appears the second Sunday of the month. Reach Roberta at ralex711@yahoo.com.


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Configuring Sonos & Google Assistant & Google Home
MikeConnelly
I have downloaded 10.2 and configured my Sonos system for Google Assistant. I have 4 Sonos Amps and 5 Sonos Beams+Ones+SUBs. I have 9 Home Hubs and 6 Minis.
Some early observations for which I would appreciate feedback/confirmation from Sonos Support:
* Only rooms that have a Sonos Beam or Ones can be directly paired with Google Assistant. My Sonos Amps do not appear to be controlled by GA (e.g. using a Home Hub or Mini as a "microphone" for a Sonos Amp).
* Related, none of my Sonos speakers appear as targets within Google Home to which you could map "default speaker". For example, map a Home Hub to a Sonos room as the default speaker.
* I have configured Google Music (for which I have a premium subscription) as the default service. But every time I ask Google to "Play [artist or song]", the Sonos responds saying "I can't do that here but you can ask me to play it on one of your other devices."
* In Google Home, there is a Sonos TV Control for each Sonos room including the Amps. This must be manually adopted to my home, then assigned a room in the Google Home app. However, it's not clear to me what the TV control does given that it isn't a speaker (e.g. perhaps permit voice control of the Sonos Beam/Amp's HDMI-CEC via Google Assistant?).
* It appears that you cannot cast to a Sonos system (e.g. open YouTube and select Cast or use similar control on Android phone). This may be why I cannot map my Sonos rooms as "default speakers"
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I'm able to voice control from Google Home Hub to Sonos Play:1 pair, but they don't show up in list of Default speakers, which is EXTREMELY disappointing. Have to say something like: "Hey Google, play my flow from Deezer on Office Sonos". Annoying.
jgatie
You should be able to use a Mini or Home hub to send music to your Amp by specifying the Amp room name. Try "Hey Google, play XXX on (Amp room name)".
I do not think this is possible at this time. It came later with Alexa, probably the case here.
Make sure your Google Home GPM account is the same as your Sonos GPM account.
Can't help here, I don't have a Beam/Amp. Sorry.
Correct, casting is not possible at this time. Whether Chromecast capability is coming is not known.
melvimbe
Local Superstar
I haven't been home to view the update yet, but I would make sure that Google and Sonos are both setup with the same music service account. If they are, I would try removing and re-enabling the account on Sonos, then try the command again.
Your luck is better than mine. Here is a sample:
"Hey Google, play Tom Petty"
Reply: "I can't do that here but you can ask me to play it on one of your other devices."
"Hey Google, play Tom Petty in the Office"
"Hey Google, play Tom Petty on the Office Sonos"
"Hey Google, play Tom Petty on Google Play"
"Hey Google, play Tom Petty on Google Play Music"
"Hey Google, play Tom Petty on Google Play Music on the Office Sonos"
Reply: "I looked for Tom Petty on Google Play Music on the Office on Google Play Music but it either isn't available or can't be played now"
She says, "I'm afraid I can't do that yet"
Try these tips. Often it is due to devices sharing the same names. If all else fails remove and readd Google Assistant.
Help and tips for Google Assistant on Sonos
So, even though I can start music playing from the Home Hub to the Play:1's, the current song doesn't display on the Hub. Sigh. That's no better than the Amazon Show. A year and a half spent by Sonos to get this done right, and it's just a huge disappointment.
Back to controlling Chromecast Audio from the Hub, which is just a fantastic little setup. I sure wish Sonos had simply implemented Chromecast (along with all the other casting services already in place), and left the voice stuff to the inexpensive Google and Amazon devices.
One clarification, the failure appears to be associated with having a Google Home Hub in the same room as a Sonos Beam.
If I ask a Google Home Hub in a room without a Beam or Ones to play [artist] on a [Sonos room or group of rooms], that command works with both Beam+Ones or Amps. Also, visual controls appear on the Home Hub.
Where it consistently fails for me is when the Home Hub is in the same room as either a Sonos One or Beam. In that case, the Sonos Beam answers as described above.
Also, I cannot control a Sonos room from a Google Mini even when there is not Beam or Ones in that room. ("I can't do that yet").
P.S. my Sonos rooms didn't appear in my Google Home earlier today but now do. However, the appear as smart home devices with a settings icon. They still cannot be selected as default speakers.
mr.skellington
Yeap. Yyyyeap yeap yeap.
As it turns out, you can only use this "integration" in whichever way you have it set up in your Sonos controller. If you have more than one Sonos speaker and/or Sonos speaker groups, great. If you (like me) have 1 Sonos speaker and then a home stereo with Chromecast, and then a bunch of Google Home speakers, you're basically ******.
I've waited for SO long for this just to be able to play the same music I play on my living room stereo on my Sonos Play:1 in the kitchen... so long.
Today I heard the update was coming, I took it and set everything up and then boom! Nothing. I now can tell Google to play music in the kitchen (saving me the press of 1 button).
I am pissed enough that now I decided to sell this awesomely sounding speaker in exchange for one that allows me that one simple thing: play the same music I'm playing over the network to which the Sonos is connected and royally ignoring.
I'm through with Sonos.
As it turns out, you can only use this "integration" in whichever way you have it set up in your Sonos controller. If you have more than one Sonos speaker and/or Sonos speaker groups, great. If you (like me) have 1 Sonos speaker and then a home stereo with Chromecast, and then a bunch of Google Home speakers, you're basically f*****.
You were never going to be able to play Sonos speakers in sync with Google home speakers. It's the same with Amazon. You can't sync Sonos with echos. These different systems use their own proprietary multi-room protocols.
I can understand why you would assume this would be a feature, but ultimately it was an incorrect assumption...or some ignorant sales guy lied to you. Also understandable to be upset, and understandable to not be interested in Sonos if you've already invested in Google Homes everywhere, but not exactly Sonos fault.
View: Marshall multi room speakers
Sonos could. They just don't want to.
My point was slightly different: the purpose of default speaker mapping isn't to synchronize music across Google Cast and Sonos devices. Rather, it is to simplify your voice commands.
For example, I have two Google Minis in the garage, where they are excellent microphones but lousy speakers. I also have two passive speakers connected to a Sonos Amp. So, what I want to do is map requests for music playback on those two Minis to the Sonos Amp. So, I could then play music in the garage without having to say "in the garage".
Not a good comparison really. Those state that you play audio through "Chromecast built-in, Spotify connect, airplay or Bluetooth, or go wired with a 3.5mm jack or RCA cord". They don't stream on their own the way Sonos does, you must stream from another source and send it to the speaker. I'm not sure exactly how the multiroom works for this setup, but I wouldn't be surprised if it only works with chromecast or airplay. The scope of these products and Sonos is very different.
But it does look like the marshall speakers fits what you're looking for much better.
That feature didn't come to the Alexa integration until a few months ago. I believe it will come to GA integration as well, much sooner, probably still some months off I'd guess.
Howgee
Lyricist I
+1 for the "default speaker" feature. Google Home already shows the Sonos in the same room as the assistant device. It's puzzling why it doesn't allow you to select it as the default speaker like Alexa does.
Ken_Griffiths
That should not matter as long as each of the devices in the same room are not similarly named to the room, or each other, so as to cause confusion to the GA.
You can only target a single Sonos Room at the moment, but you can go onto Group that room with others, either beforehand, or afterwards.
Its presumably down to whichever device hears your utterances... it's usually the nearest device or the one towards which the utterance is directed.
You should be able to do this, that's from the things I have read about these new features.
i don't think there is the option yet to set Sonos devices as a Google Home device default speaker. Maybe this will be available in a future updated version.
After several hours of investigation, I think I have made progress:
I found that I could play music on my Sonos system using Google Assistant but only issuing the voice command to Google Home Hubs. If a Google Home Hub is in the same room as a Sonos speaker with a microphone, I must first mute the Sonos mike. Else, GA will answer on the Sonos Beam (as it should) but then the command to play fails. If I use the same command in a room with a Google Mini and no Sonos microphones, the command fails. So there's a difference between voice commands initiated by Home Hubs v Minis too.
Un-pairing Google Assistant with all Sonos rooms works similar to muting the Sonos microphone. You must specify the room name in the voice command on the Hub. And the Mini doesn't work.
Interestingly, GA on Sonos has no issues recognizing the command to "stop" playing music on the Sonos device after it has been started by the Hub. Visual controls only appear on the Hub if the voice command was recognized by the Hub (while the Sonos microphone was muted).
The root cause of my issues playing Google Music appears to be the languages that you speak. Our home is multi-lingual. It appears that you need to have English (United States) as your first language preference. I suspect that Google is assigning a country (and assuming GA or Google Play Music availability) based on your specified language. However, there is no explanation to the user as to why that's the issue (e.g "Sorry wrong [country/language]").
I still can't explain why the Hub handles this differently than the Mini. But, Google Play Music appears to be working as expected now.
tatnai
For me setting a Sonos speaker as a "default speaker" for a Google assistant device is what I am really waiting for. I have no speaker enabled Sonos devices, voice commands to play music on my Sonos speakers works fine (as long as I add where to play it, naming the speaker), but yeah the true convenience feature of this integration is not having to say where to play it at all. I will keep waiting...
This would solve my problem too. By being able to set up my Sonos Play:1 to be the "default speaker" for my Google Mini, then I can group the Google Mini in my Home Group while having the music I'm casting come out through Sonos.
Like others said, this feature came out later for Alexa; so I'm hoping we see it soon on Google.
It's however frustrating to have to keep waiting for those of us who thought as soon as they released this integration all problems would be solved.
It looks like the Sonos / GA integration is fundamentally different from Chromecast. All my Chromecast devices can be connected to from any GA device via the local WiFi, whereas the Sonos speakers are connected in the cloud.
Amazon solved this with Alexa Cast, which also connects via the cloud (prove this by connecting to your Sonos speakers from the Amazon Music app on your phone with only a 4G connection).
Will Google come up with something similar to Alexa Cast? If Sonos speakers don't become first-class Chromecast devices, I'm not sure they can become default speakers, without some new Google protocol. Or, Google will need to make cloud-connected speakers default-able, which is something they are likely looking to do. Either way, I'm afraid it's up to Google to enable this, and they have a ton of other things on their plate, so...
Pure speculation on my part...
It looks like the Sonos / GA integration is fundamentally different from Chromecast. All my Chromecast devices can be connected to from the Google Home app via the local WiFi, whereas the Sonos speakers are connected in the cloud.
The easiest solution would be to un-restrict the Sonos speaker's functionality in the home network. It is all in all a "sound outlet" connected to a home WiFi network, but only allows certain devices or apps to cast to it.
Chromecast, on the other hand, works as an open outlet to which one can cast music so long as one is in the same network.
So long as Sonos capriciously wants its customers to use their products with their app and/or only paired with other Sonos speakers, they'll never free these speakers to be used as a network speaker.
What puzzles me is that there are examples in which this "capriciousness" is abandoned. A Play:5 can be hooked up to a Chromecast Audio dongle and work as we intend. Alexa is now allowed to group Sonos and non-Sonos speakers. Maybe more examples out there? I don't know.
One thing I'm surely not gonna do is dump my whole set up and exchange it for all Sonos just to hear the same music through the house. I rather just sell the 1 "difficult child" speaker I have in the house.
Shame because in terms of sound, the Play:1 is in-cre-di-ble
The bolded is not true. You cannot group Sonos speakers with non-Sonos speakers using Alexa.
Not at all true. Sonos speakers work with Alexa Cast, Spotify Connect, AirPlay 2, and Sonos' own open Direct Control protocol. Also with whatever protocol Google Play Music uses. ChromeCast is the only missing piece. With Google abandoning the ChromeCast Audio, I wonder whether they're working on something similar to Alexa Cast.
I must be reading this wrong then..
https://support.sonos.com/s/article/3169?language=en_US
You're right, yes.
Maybe I should have leaned towards pointing out Sonos being designed as a stand-alone product rather than playing nice with a Google ecosystem.
What I said holds true to me (and others) but not everyone.
I don't use Spotify, Alexa or any Apple products; so my only way to use Sonos is through its app.
The overall point I was trying to make is that I would very much like it if Sonos allowed people like me to use their speakers as we see fit rather than being forced to use it individually with an app I have no use for other than just for it.


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