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Pratchett- beyond Discworld.
andygirl September 1, 2001, 12:48am #1
I've been a longtime fan of Pratchett and the Disc series, but I would have to say that I found his early books to be nowhere near as good as the ones that came later. I don't think the Disc started coming onto its own until somewhere around Mort.
Good Omens notwithstanding, the only non-Disc book of Pratchett's that I've read was Strata. Quite frankly, I hated it. The plot, characters, and general style were quite awful and clunky, and what made it worse was that I was hoping for something as least on part to Color of Magic.
Has anyone read the non-Disc books? Thoughts on them? What about the ones that aren't directly Discworld like the Maps?
I'd love to know what's worth hunting down.
lucie September 1, 2001, 1:26am #2
I am trying to get hold of some of his short early stuff, particularly a trilogy that I think is called The Bromeliad - consists of Trucks, Wings, and another one. Unfortunately, I have only been able to get hold of the last one in the series and read about half of it - great stuff, very Discworld-Pratchitt. They've been recently reprinted in the UK, but I haven't found them here in the US. Can any Brit dopers help us out?
I agree with you on "Strata" - a couple amusing bits, but I hated the story.
clairobscur September 1, 2001, 2:34am #3
Wasn't he the author of the trilogy about the gnomes? I enjoyed this one a lot, much more than the two or three "discworld" I read…
Gaspode September 1, 2001, 11:15am #4
Started reading "Dark Side of the Sun'. Got about a third through and literally threw it out. Absolutely hated it. I'm a huge Pratchett fan (you couldn't have guessed by the handle I bet?)and I almost never fail to finish a book, but that one was absolute shit. Far too much philosophising about the implications of parralel universes and far too little time spent making the characters into something I could identify with. It was almost like the characters were only their to provide someone to ask questions so the author could expand on his pet theories.
I read 'Johnny and the Dead' just to see what it was like. Actually incredibly good for what was written as a kids book. Easily on par with his best philosophical stuff in the Discworld Death novels (and with a minor tear jerker ending).
'The Unadulterated Cat' is pretty good but not exactly world class. Recommended only if you really like cats.
I am trying to get hold of some of his short early stuff, particularly a trilogy that I think is called The Bromeliad - consists of Trucks, Wings, and another one.
'Truckers', 'Diggers' and 'Wings'. I've only read 'Truckers' and while it was alright I never felt compelled to find the rest of the trilogy. The characters were a little to cutesy and unreal. Kind of like the way Twoflower was in the first couple of Discworld novels. It's very hard to empathise with someone who is so completely divorced from reality, and that doesn't really make for a good leading character in a novel.
Gartog September 1, 2001, 11:24am #5
Were written as children's books, before the discworld novels (I believe) DreamWorks SDK have the rights to the trilogy and plan on turning them into computer generated films - they are about gnomes who go on a journey, relocating from their home across the trilogy.
I enjoyed them as a child. TP also wrote, for children, 'Johnny and the dead' 'Johnny and the Bomb', 'Only you can save Mankind' and 'The Carpet People'.
I'm not sure I'd recommend these for adults though.
I recently reread Moving pictures (the 9th DW novel), which I thought was excellent and as good as some of the more recent DiscWorld series, (although I am always biased to the book I have most recently read)
I am waiting for 'The Truth' and 'Thief of Time' to come out in paper back.
Qadgop_the_Mercotan September 1, 2001, 2:10pm #6
I liked The Bromeliad, the "Johnny" books didn't do a lot for me, I thought Strata was interesting in the same way that reading Tolkien's History of Middle-Earth Series was interesting, and I really enjoyed The Carpet People.
But really, I think the discworld stuff is the best. Am I alone in thinking that his latest books are actually getting better, deeper, richer, more subtle and thought-provoking?
GuanoLad September 1, 2001, 2:31pm #7
Bromeliad… where I come from it was called "The Nomes Trilogy", and in fact they weren't written pre-discworld, they came out around the Sourcery/Pyramids/Eric kind of era.
I loved them, I thought they were really original, and I'm going to steal a couple of his ideas for one of my stories one day.
I also love the Johnny books, though not as much. The characters are a little young for me - not in the humour, but in the characterisation of the children.
Good Omens rocks!
Strata and Dark Side of the Sun I didn't like. Serious and dull, unfortunately.
And I also didn't enjoy Carpet People - just felt a bit clumsy.
There are more non-Disc books on the horizon, and a couple of kids books that are set in the Discworld but not really about anything normally disc-ish (though one is set around the Nac Mac Feegle)
Koxinga September 1, 2001, 7:10pm #8
*Originally posted by Qadgop the Mercotan *
Am I alone in thinking that his latest books are actually getting better, deeper, richer, more subtle and thought-provoking? **
I could see that Carpe Jugulum was trying to explore some serious philosophy, what with Granny Weatherwax facing the light and stepping backward into the dark. However, this made it a little jarring when Pratchett stepped back into slapstick mode, and even made the comedy seem a little forced. I sometimes wonder if he's sort of shrinking back from being a really serious writer.
Ross September 3, 2001, 12:56am #9
I think I heard that he wrote the Carpet People when he was 17, so I daresay clumsy is fair enough. I haven't read it.
He's also a bit of a one for ripping himself off. For example, the Carpet People sounds a lot like the Nomes trilogy (which is certainly worth buying). And doesn't a robotic version of the Discworld show up in Strata? Or DSOTS?
I read every Discworld book in a few months, which ended with the Hogfather era, then I kind of passed out. I think the last one I read was… I can't even remember what it was called. You know, the counterweight continent, Rincewind in Australia, etc.
He is a fine writer. I always loved his logic, and his image of what it was like inside a golem's mind - far behind the red eyes, the golem himself sat tiny on a distant desert, waiting.
Yookeroo September 4, 2001, 4:04am #10
But really, I think the discworld stuff is the best. Am I alone in thinking that his latest books are actually getting better, deeper, richer, more subtle and thought-provoking? **
No. I'm right there with you. As fun as his early stuff is, his writing has really matured, particularly the Witch & Watch books.
The kids books (Johnny books & Bromeliad) are fantastic.
Fenris September 4, 2001, 11:32am #11
Aargh: Qadgop the Mercotan beat me to it: I loved the Bromeliad stuff, the Johnny stuff didn't do much for me and I like Pratchett's newer stuff in large part due to the darker tone. Thanks, Qad.
Francesca September 4, 2001, 1:46pm #12
I don't know if it's available in the US, but Pratchett recently co-wrote The Science of Discworld with Ian Stewart and Jack Cohen. It's a really great mix of a Discworld story and a discussion of the science that underlies it.
As for the non-discworld books - I enjoyed the Bromeliad, but I couldn't get into Strata or DSOTS at all. Haven't read the Johnny stuff- it doesn't really appeal. Strata was too… something for me. I can't put my finger on it. It just didn't sound like Pterry.
There's a new Discworld hardback coming out here next month. I'm in agreement with Q the M and Fenris - as the books progress they get darker and (to me) much more interesting and entertaining. I really enjoyed Thief of Time and I'm hoping the next instalment is a Vetinari one. (Incidentally - I only just got that recently: Vetinari/Medici. Heeee!).
Legomancer September 4, 2001, 2:20pm #13
Okay, confession: I've never read any Discworld books. I bought the Colour of Magic long ago when it first came out and never finished it because I thought it was kind of dull. By the time Discworld was a hit, I was wary of it for two reasons, neither of which are good reasons:
For some reason I had visions of Xanth in my head. It seemed to me to be that all over again.
Have you ever seen alt.fan.pratchett? I used to read alt.humor.best-of-usenet and half the submissions on there were from alt.fan.pratchett and involved people desperately trying to be funny and amuse pratchett, who evidently hung out on the newsgroup. I didn't really want to associate with them.
As I said, those are bad reasons. If I was going to give it a try, what would you suggest?
Fenris September 4, 2001, 2:38pm #14
*Originally posted by Legomancer *
**As I said, those are bad reasons. If I was going to give it a try, what would you suggest? **
Great. You've just turned this thread into a Great Debate.
Anyway, the general consensus is that if you're only going to try one Pratchett, Small Gods is the one. It's not my favorite, but it's a stand-alone and is very good.
With the Discworld stuff, there are several sub-series: The Death series, the Witches series, the Rincewind series, and so on. Each group of series has a loose internal continuity. Most books (even within the sub-series) can be read in any order, but are better if read in order. The first two books (The Color of Magic and The Light Fantastic are dramatically different in tone from the rest of the series. The series changes tone dramatically with (depending on who you talk to) book 3 or 4).
rjung September 4, 2001, 6:08pm #15
Speaking as a Pratchett fan who's got all of his non-Discworld stuff (and I even have The Science of Discworld in hardcover, so there):
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[li]Strata was okay. Not great, not horrible, but merely okay. Overall it reads like a parody of Larry Niven's Discworld series (which I believe was the intent), but tends to wander quite a bit, which reduces the humor level. You definitely have to read Discworld to enjoy it, though.[/li][li]Similarly, Dark Side of the Sun is a major parody/pastich of Isaac Asimov's novels. Note that Dom Salabos' robot is also named Isaac, and the overall plot of future predictability is a riff on Asimov's Foundation novels.[/li][li]The Carpet People is definitely spotty, but since he wrote it in his teens (14? 17?), I'll cut him some slack. It is definitely an early draft of the Nomes trilogy, which is (are?) terrific. I plan to introduce them to my kid once he gets old enough.[/li][li]And I'm definitely a fan of the Johnny Maxwell titles, simply because Johnny's a fun character to be with. Not quite as out-and-out insane as the Discworld novels, but certainly entertaining. Johnny and the Bomb gets a little deeper than the first two, touching briefly on issues of racism and cultural changes, but it's still a lot of laughs. And as a video-game fan, I thought Only You Can Save the Universe was so dead-on…[/li][li]Finally, I don;t know how much Pratchett contributed to The Science of Discworld, but given that the non-Discworld "factual" text has some Pratchettian-style jokes sprinkled throughout, I find it to be a great read. The Wizards' creation of the universe was definitely ROTFL material.[/li][/ul]
[li]Strata was okay. Not great, not horrible, but merely okay. Overall it reads like a parody of Larry Niven's Discworld series (which I believe was the intent), but tends to wander quite a bit, which reduces the humor level. You definitely have to read Discworld to enjoy it, though.[/ul][/li]
ACK! I meant Larry Niven's Ringworld series, of course… Goof goof goof…
cher3 September 4, 2001, 7:16pm #17
I can't believe I'm the first to mention "Good Omens." It was co-authored with Neal Gaiman, but it's got a lot of the same humor as the Discworld series.
Fenris September 4, 2001, 10:06pm #18
*Originally posted by rjung *
**Speaking as a Pratchett fan who's got all of his non-Discworld stuff (and I even have The Science of Discworld in hardcover, so there):<snip> **
Ditto, and I have the Nanny Ogg Cookbook, the Granny Weatherwax story in Silverburg's Legends anthology, the (once) rare short story "Theatre of Cruelty" (which can be gotten on-line with PTerry's permission here too, PLUS I have British and American editions of most of the books so there right back atcha!! (You realize that all this proves is that I'm a slightly obsessive person)
[li]Finally, I don;t know how much Pratchett contributed to The Science of Discworld, but given that the non-Discworld "factual" text has some Pratchettian-style jokes sprinkled throughout, I find it to be a great read. The Wizards' creation of the universe was definitely ROTFL material.[/li]**
Apparently quite a bit of the non-Diskworld stuff was Pratchett, if one compares the sparkling text of The Science of Diskworld to the plodding tedium which is Flatterland, also by Ian Stewart. I got Flatterland based on the strength of Science of Diskworld and it was atrocious. A review by me of Flatterland can be found here, although I'm a bit traumatized that no-one responded to it.
Myrr21 September 4, 2001, 11:49pm #19
Well, actually GuanoLad beat ya to it, but second is good
What's funny is how easy it can be to pick out the Pratchett and Gaimen bits; you can sit there and pretty much figure out who wrote/suggested what. It still holds together as one story, though.
Atreyu September 5, 2001, 5:09am #20
*Originally posted by Gartog *
**I am waiting for 'The Truth' and 'Thief of Time' to come out in paper back. **
The Truth is now available in paperback. I bought it earlier today. Seeing it on the shelf waiting for me to buy it and take it home has made my week.


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My First Boyfriend is a Monster!…Literally: Sleepwalkers (1992)
My first boyfriend is a monster…literally
So a few months ago my friend ad I were watching Tommy Boy and I commented that the Rob Lowe character and his mother, were not really mother and son because they were too close. She said they could be weird like the mother and son in Sleepwalkers. I wasn't quite sure what she was talking about and then I remembered it, sort of. I couldn't remember much, I know I saw it or part of it on TV and there were cats involved or people who turn into were-cats?
UHHHHHHHH!!!!
So when it came to pick what Stephen King film to review, our conversation popped in my head and I decided for it to be my yearly Stephen King pick. Here we go…
So we start off with the definition of Sleepwalkers:
"Sleepwalker noun. Nomadic shape-shifting creatures with human and feline origins. Vulnerable to the deadly scratch of the cat. The sleepwalker feeds upon the life force of virginal human females. Probable source of the Vampire legend."
We then start of on a beach with police officers, I'm getting Jaws flashbacks.
A mother and son is missing, they go to the house and OMG! Cats are hung everywhere this is horrible. This is the most horrible thing I have ever seen. I know its not real but it made me cry. I can't watch dead cats.
***SKIP***
We have the titles and Mädchen Amick is in this. Mädchen was Shelly in Twin Peaks, I'm' a major fan of the original show. She is such a pretty lady, many of you will recognize her as Mrs. Cooper in Riverdale.
We see a lot of cat imagery from the Egyptians in this-cats, cat people, shape shifters, etc. The only thing I don't understand is that if they turn into cats why did they kill them? Shouldn't they love and adore cats like in Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island. That's a great movie.
So we are in Travis, Indiana. A shirtless guy is looking at a yearbook and listening to 1950s music on a record, then he cuts his skin, weird. He cuts a "T" for Tanya Robertson (Mädchen Amick) which has a heart doodled around it.
Oh no, a cat is sniffing around a house, there is a trap, oh no! Please not the cat.
Yes, it was okay. If this film is just about cat killing I'm not going to watch it. I'm serious, I'll just shut it off.
He dances with an older lady…who turns out to be his mom and they are so creepy. Too close, too much like lovers. Ew, ew OMG they are kissing. No wonder I blocked this movie out. Incest and killing cats, this is the worst movie ever.
Tanya is working late at the movies, dancing out to The Condors "Do You Love Me".
Tanya is interrupted by Charles Brady (Brian Krause) the creepy guy who's sleeping with his mom. He gets popcorn and a drink and asks to give Tanya a ride home. She turns him down, good for her, but then when he is all hurt and leaving she stops him and welcomes him to town. NOOOO Tanya, run away.
Her add picks her up, but creepy Charles is watching. It is midnight and ominous music plays while the bell tolls. Let's see what creepy thing he does…nothing. His mom does call animal control as they attract a ton of cats. You know, between this and Cat's Eye Stephen King just seems to love hatimg cats. Like they aren't treated as sad deaths like the dog in Secret Window. They are treated as nothing.
So Charles is jealous and wants attention from her son, ew.
The next day Charles reads a creepy gross story about Sleepwalkers. I don'y know why Tanya is into him-that story is awful, he's creepy, and he's not that cute.
Tanya says she likes it, why?
The teacher liked the story, but seems to hate Charles, creeping on him from a window. Why?
Oh, wow…
Her friends make fun of her for "just talking" to Charles and not sleeping with hum…I have to say these friends are not good. They shouldn't be encouraging you to sleep with a total stranger! They should be more concerned for your health and mental well-being.
The worst!
Charles offers to give her and her friends a ride and they refuse to give him and Tanya time togheter. Charles thanks Tanya for her kind words and she thanks him for writing such a great piece. Gag me! Tanya, come on-have some more respect for yourself.
Tanya takes Charles into her house and her mom has gravestone rubbings framed, so cool! She also takes him to her room and shows him her pictures, He wants to see how she takes photos, and she invites him to join her tomorrow when she takes pictures.
From Clueless
Mom interrupts them, good-he's creepy don't get involved Tanya. Mom is very suspicious of him, even more after he says he is a gravestone rubber too. I like this mom, she grills the boy and seems to care a lot about her child. Her mom sense must be tinging as she does not like this boy. This surprised me as most parents in a horror film are either checked out or just comedic effect.
Later, the teacher pulls Charles over, weird. Why is he following him? The teacher threatens him, not letting him get out of the car. He knows Charles is lying and is confronting him, why? Why didn't he just go to the principal? The teacher actually slams the door on Charles hand-blackmailing him not for money as he wants a "different" exchange? Was the teacher trying to get Charles to be with him? I am so confused?
And of course Charles being a monster, rips the hand of the teacher and chases him in the woods and eats him. This whole scene is so odd and weird.
In the next scene we see a deputy and he is playing with his cat. It is so cute! Clovis the attack cat.
It makes me think of that book series Boris and Lil. Lil was the Sheriff and Boris the cat her deputy. Anyways the deputy sees Charles speeding , almost running down a girl, and follows to stop him. Yeah, Charles is crazy. Too bad Tanya didn't see that.
Clovis meows at Charles and he becomes afraid morphing to a Catperson, Werecat. So cats scare them and can see their true form? I still find this weird as you think a Cat monster would like cats. Charles also has magic that makes him and his car invisible? Why? What?
Clovis still sees it, no Clovis stay in the car-don't get hurt. I swear, if another cat dies I'm turning this movie off.
Clovis tries to tell Deputy Andy, but humans can't understand cats and they drive away.
And Charles turned his car from a blue pontiac to a red mustang. How? How does werecat magic allow you to do that?
WHAT??!!
Later the deputy tries to tell the others, what he saw but he can barely make sense of it. Poor guy, can you imagine trying to tell people you saw a cat person?
Aw, Clovis has her own cute little bed in a file area. Oh my gosh, Clovis is so adorable. She is the best part of this movie. I'm only watching for you Clovis. Andy and Clovis are so adorable, the best characters in this movie.
Back to the creepy incest mom is in a nightgown and lighted candles. Ew, them kissing. This movie is so gross. Stephen King has problems.
Mom starts smacking her son because he didn't her the girl. They need to feed ASAP. He shares about what happened with the teacher and they are now on an expedited course to get food for mom, they are running out of time. They want Tayna because she is a pure soul (virgin)
More cats come around the house, they watch the house and plot.
I like that the cats are the heroes, they see these people for what they really are and try to stop then. Often cats are bad in stories, so its nice to see them protecting.
Ew, they are together!
You know this movie is just weird and gross. I'm skipping to Clovis.
So Tonya and Charles on their date, he woges and attacks Tanya, she got away from him and runs screaming for help-right to Deputy Andy. Deputy Andy puts Tanya in his car, and goes to fight Charles who attacks him. No-not Andy!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Charles attacks Tanya, needing to feed and Andy shoots Charles who is fine and he kills Andy. Aw man, 20% of the characters I liked are gone (Deputy Andy, Clovis, Tanya, Tanya's Mom, & Tanya's Dad).
Clovis comes in and saves Tanya by jumping on Charles and that makes him fizz like Alka Seltzer. Tanya locks herself in the car an tries to use the radio. Charles gets in his pontiac and drives off. Aw, Clovis goes to Andy's side and lays on him. What will happen to Clovis now? Who will take care of her?
There are more cats in the Brady yard, but Charles makes it through. His mom tries to heal him-you think they would just leave town and the movie could end here, but I'm guessing there is more to come. Oh no Mom wants to stay. Darn. Why? It makes more sense for them to leave as they have been "discovered".
So annoying
Charles tries to "dim" himself-make himself invisible-but it doesn't work.
Stephen King has a cameo as the groundkeeper for the cemetery. He is not a good actor. Just stop, please.
They question Tonya and she tries to give them the information, but it is all mixed up. Too bad Andy died.
They photograph Tonya, and this is so awful. Victim support is so important-the way they treat her-there are much kinder ways. She has already been through something extremely traumatic.
Poor Tonya "He was very Charming". We've all been there. Boys are the worst.
Tonya hears Clovis and asks for her, as she saved her life, the police promise to bring her later. The police are headed to the house and the mom changes the car to be invisible. How do they have such powers I don't know. If they can do that, then why don't they make themselves invisible and sneak on people? This doesn't make any sense.
Mom makes them invisible as the police storm in and find it "empty", why? This is dumb, I'll try not to waste any further brain cells on it.
It's unimportant.
Ugh the State Trooper is such a misogynist-Captain Soames. He complain about having to watch Tonya, as she just has an overactive imagination and needs a spanking, something he would like to do. Now I don't know what the age of consent is in Indiana but shouldn't the commanding officer fire him?
Tonya goes home and takes a bath, her parents are nervous and freaking out. Mom is overcooking, dad worried about her being alone, mom trying to hold it together, both trying to be understanding but not knowing what to do-and Tonya trying desperately to get clean.
I really like the parents in this. These two are some of the best parents in film and TV, they care about their child and react realistically. Especially a situation like this when they are trying to support her but also are freaking out themselves.
Police outside are keeping watch with one officer inside. They don't do a good job as Ma Brady kills them.
The bell rings-no don't go out dad. Stay alive! Yes you guessed it-Ma Brady.
I love the dad's reaction as he is angry and about to give Ma Brady a few words to give to Charles about his sorry apology, but Ma Brady takes him out and the officer.
Mom comes running and Ma Brady attacks her too. She wants her to give up their daughter, but she refuses and when she hears that Charles is dying she's glad-she then picks up a bat to try and take Ma Brady out, but Ma Brady is too strong.
Again, I love the way they did these parents-actual parents.
Tonya is running downstairs and Ma Brady wants her. More police come, but Ma Brady just goes monster on them. Meanwhile Ma Brady has knocked Tonya out and is carrying her off.
That's not good.
Ma Brady crashes into here house and the cats attack her. Ma wants Tonya to get with Charles, but she won't as he's dead! Ma insists he isn't and uses her powers to turn the music on. Why? Why have powers if that's all you do? This is so weird and dumb.
So Charles isn't dead as Ma Brady wants them to dance and kiss, even though he doesn't have a face.
Sweet, Clovis is with the Sheriff as he storms into the house. She climbs up a tree and breaks a widow. Yes, Clovis-save the girl, be the cat that Andy believed you could be, and avenge your master!
Charles and Ma look more monster like and Charles tries to feed on Tonya, but she won't go down easy. Clovis charges into the fray to lead the attack, all the cats start charging in jumping and attacking them-Go cats, go. Take them out.
Charles is dead, Tonya took care of him-but Ma Brady is still kicking. You know they don't really look like cat people they look like a cross between an alien and the Creature from the Black Lagoon.
NEVER SAY DIE!
Ma throws the sheriff and Tonya runs for the car, trying to find the keys. The Sheriff throws a trap at Ma Brady, which stalls her for a second, but then she kills him too.
Poor Tonya she's all alone but then Clovis comes back, and leads an attack of 100 cats and they take Ma Brady down. You see, this is why you should always have a cat.
Ma catches on fire and Tonya finally gets the key in and backs away. Poor Tonya, she will never have a normal life. Clovis jumps in the car and Tonya hugs her tight. Aw, I hope Tonya keeps Clovis and takes care of her.
One thing for sure, Tonya will always have a cat.
Yeah, I didn't like this movie at all except Clovis. She's the best cat ever!
For more Stephen King, go to I'm Not Into Politics. I'm Into Survival: The Running Man (1987)
For more Werecats, go to No Mere Mortal Can Resist the Evil of the Thriller: Thriller (1983)
For more cats, go to Don't Go in There! You Don't Have to Die! No One Has to Die at 30! You Could Live! LIVE!: Logan's Run (1976)
Tagged Brian Krause, Captain Soames, Cats, Cemetery, Charles Brady, Clovis, Clovis the Attack Cat, Crazy VA, Do You Love Me, Graveyard, Jaws, Mädchen Amick, Mrs. Cooper, Police Officers, Riverdale, Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island, Secret Window, Shelly Johnson, Sleepwalkers, Stephen King, Stephen King Film, Tanya Robertson, The Condors, Twin Peaks, Werecat
Simply Fantastic
So here we are with post two on my fandoms. As I mentioned in Fanning All Over the Place there was just too, too many to include in one post so I split them up into a series. Here we go again! 🙂
I first got into Archie Comics through my parents. They had grown up with the comics as kids, and bought my sister and I our first comic books for Christmas one year. We quickly grew to love them.
So the comics came out in the 1940s, and are about a clumsy, accident-prone, redhead, Archie Andrews; who moves to Riverdale meeting a blonde, girl-next-door, Betty Cooper and a food-consuming, girl hater Forsythe "Jughead" Jones. As the series progressed they added more characters, and changed the history to being everyone grew up in Riverdale together. I love the comics from the 1940s-90s. The ones that have been written in the last ten years are not really my favorites as these newer ones seeming to have something missing. So here are the fun characters:
Archie Andrews is the sweet, all around "good guy". He's your average male, but has a heart of gold. He is always having issues in his classes, and constantly going to summer school, but is still a pretty clever guy as on more than one occasion he manages to outwit Reggie. He does every sport known to man and also is the school's newspaper editor. His biggest flaw is that he is girl crazy. Not only does he form a triangle with Betty and Veronica, but he will run after any pretty girl he sees. Add to this a habit of attracting disasters, and he is one funny guy.
Betty Cooper is the girl-next-door. Blonde, sweet, a great cook, and always lends a hand when one is needed. She is not only pretty, but brainy to boot.
She also is a mechanic, school newspaper reporter, sews her own clothes, and a budding writer.
That's a lot!
Betty is the best. She was always my favorite character and I felt bad about her constant competition with Veronica over Archie. Betty has loved Archie since the first time she saw him, and will wait around, anytime for him. I know they need her to be one of the points in the love triangle, but I aways wanted Betty to say love me or leave me; no more in-between. In one issue she did dump Archie and started dating this guy Adam, but the fans didn't like it and she and Archie got back together. Betty and Veronica may compete over Archie, but they are also the best of friends. Veronica is the total opposite of Betty, and Betty often uses her morals and kindness to show Veronica a better way to be. Betty is one of the few characters with siblings; having an older brother that works for the FBI, Chip Cooper; and an older sister who is an investigative reporter, Polly Cooper.
Veronica Lodge the final point in the love triangle. Veronica is the only daughter of gazillionaire Hiram Lodge. Mr. Lodge worked up from nothing and now has not only billions, but his fingers in every financial pot. Him and his wife were unable to have children for a while and had her in their old age. Veronica can be nice but is mostly spoiled, conniving, materialistic, and devoid of any skills besides ordering people and looking nice. Unlike Betty who has eyes only for Archie, Veronica flits about with any guy she finds attractive. She is also highly temperamental and can be a major ice queen if one little thing upsets her. Of course this is somehow irresistible to Archie (as with most guys). Her constant scheming to get Archie away from Betty, while dating more wealthier and cuter guys, always brings laughs.
Triangles are not for me:
Forsythe "Jughead" Jones is an interesting character. Jughead pretty much marches to the beat of his own drum. He wears a crown instead of a hat, shirts with the letter "S" on them, is a girl-hater, and an immense lover of food. Yep, he eats nonstop. But hey:
Jughead doesn't always do well in school, but is one of the cleverest guys out there. I believe that he just has his own way of learning that hasn't been discovered. He loves to always pull one over on Reggie. Besides eating, his hobbies are sleeping, video games, and almost every sport. Ethel Muggs has the hots for him, and is always trying to get him to date her but Jughead is not interested. Usually if Jughead is "dating", the girl's parents own some restaurant he wants free food from. He and Archie have been best buds since day one, and will stay that way until the end.
Reggie Mantle is one of those jerk characters I love anyway. Think Gaston. He's completely superficial, narcissistic, a prankster, and all around jerk. But all Reggie sees in himself is perfection.
Reggie is also spoiled as he is an only child and also comes from a very wealthy family. He, like Archie and Jughead, doesn't do the best in school and plays every sport offered. He is an amazing athelete, as he always manages to outscore Archie. He mainly dates Veronica, but also chases any girl he thinks is hot. The other girl he is interested in is Midge Klump, something her boyfriend doesn't appreciate. What's interesting about Reggie is that he and Archie have what I call a "Bert and Ernie" relationship. At times they seem to be each other's enemies and can't stand one another, but other times they are best buds.
Ethel Muggs is a tall, gangly, girl who has the hots for Jughead. If Betty is a doormat, then Ethel is even lower than that. She doesn't have too much more of a personality other than her comedy of trying to win Jughead's heart. She is nice, an athlete, and does well in school.
Dilton Doiley is a genius. Besides being great in school, he is an all around nice guy. He is picked on by Reggie, and finds it hard to get a date. Mostly Dilton comes in the story with some kind of invention he's made. Sometimes they are great improvements, other times they create big messes, but they always produce something hilarious.
Chuck Clayton is African-American and was introduced into the series with his girlfriend Nancy Wood. Chuck is a great student, one of the best athletes in Riverdale, and a terrific artist (his favorite media is cartooning). His father is the assistant coach at Riverdale High and is always encouraging Chuck and his friends to do well and go to college. While Archie is goofy, Jughead unique, and Reggie deeply into himself; Chuck is more level-headed and less likely to get into crazy scrapes. In fact, he often tries to talk Archie out of them.
Nancy Wood is also African-American and was introduced the same time as Chuck. Like Ethel, she doesn't have a lot of interaction in the comics besides being Chuck's girlfriend and a friend of Betty. She is a tremendous athlete and student.
Moose Mason is the brawn to Dilton's brains. Moose is tall, muscular, and loves sports excelling in everthing. School, however, gives him a lot of trouble. He's a real nice guy always eager to help out, although he becomes insanely jealous if anyone even looks at his girlfriend Midge.
He and Dilton are best friends.
Midge Klump is Moose's girlfriend and friend of Betty and Veronica. She is a great student & athlete; although a bit of a gossip. She wavers between liking Moose's jealousy and constant attention to feeling stifled by how much he "cares". This is a continuos issue for her, which causes her to time and time again date Reggie to "test" her feelings. This of course hardly ever turns out well for Reggie.
Cheryl Blossom is a redhead, snob, gazillionaire, conniver, and the archenemy of Betty & Veronica. She somehow is irresistible to all the guys in town and is constantly cooking up some strategy to steal them away from their girlfriends. At one point in the story she moved away and the writers introduced her replacement, Ginger, but fortunately they realized that Cheryl was too good to leave her out for long. With Cheryl around, humor abounds.
Besides almost every character having their own actual comic book, there is also Archie's Weird Mysteries. These stories involved Archie investigating into some strange occurrence in Riverdale. This eventually became a TV series, and I would watch it every Saturday morning.
For more on Archie Comics, go to When Potatoes Go Bad: Attack of the Killer Spuds (1999)
Yes, this show. I love it so much!
I used to watch this show everyday. My friends and I were huge fans and fangirls over it!
So the story is about Cory Matthews, a middle son in a five person family. It covers them and their friends, all living in a suburb not too far from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. It was funny, sweet, and even hit the really hard issues.
Cory Matthews is our main character and he starts out your average preteen boy. He only cares about sports, food, etc. As he got older he fell for Topanga Lawrence, and the two became inseparable.
Cory is an all around sweet guy. His best friend is Shawn Hunter, and the two were living a bromance before the word was ever invented. Shawn grew up on the "wrong side of the tracks", but Cory never let that come between them or saw it as a bad thing. The two remain best buds until the end of the series.
Shawn Hunter is Cory's best bud. He also is the bad boy with the heart of gold that all us ladies love!
Now he was the stereotype of the hot guy who does okay in school and gets all the ladies, but he was also much more than that. His mom and dad ran off and he had to deal with that abandonment along surviving without them. He was afraid to get close to any girl, as he was afraid they would leave him, but at the same time recognized what Topanga and Cory had was really special. He did everything he could to get them together, and keep them together. Eventually he fell for Angela, but they had some problems as he had to once again deal with those issues brought on by his parents' abandonment. It's the same reason he had so much trouble letting Cory go when he and Topanga married. He was afraid of losing another person he loved.
Later on in the series he finds out that he has a half-brother Jack (played by Matthew Lawrence). That brings more issues for him as the two try to figure out what it meant to be brothers and how to deal with not having had each other in their lives.
Topanga Lawrence is one of the most unique characters on TV.
She is the youngest daughter in a hippie family that owns a health food store. She wore what she wanted, and just ultimately was herself. However weird it was at times.
As the series progressed her unquie qualities dimmed down, but she always remained the powerhouse she was.
So later on in the series they actually changed her family. Her father was played by three different characters, of which the second and third were high ranking businessmen that only seemed to care about money. At one point her family moves away, but Cory and her are able to convince her aunt to let her finish up high school with him.
Then as the two are planning to get married, Topanga finds out that her parents are getting divorced and she stops believing in love as she saw her parents as an ideal. To make matters worse, the divorce is because of her father's infidelity. Cory fights hard to win her back, as nothing will stop him from loving Topanga.
Eric Matthews is Cory's brother and he was played by Will Friedle. He was Cory's hot older brother.
He wasn't book smart, as he didn't do well in school, but was full of brotherly wisdom. He loved the ladies and was a girl chaser, but when he had a women he focused solely on her. He was hilarious, sensitive, and had some great moments. He and Jack become friends, and he helps the socially awkward guy meet the ladies. He and Mr. Feeny have a really great relationship as well. Mr. Feeny mentors all, but he and Eric are even closer than that.
Near the end of the series they made Eric really dumb, which I always hated as I loved the old Eric.
Mr. Feeny, you just can't have a Boy Meets World post without him. Mr. Feeny lived next door to the Matthews and was the kids' teacher in middle school. When Cory and Shawn move up to high school, they are thrilled to be done with him, only to find him becoming the principal and teacher at their high school. The year Cory, Shawn, and Topanga graduate, he decides to retires. Luckily the writers decided that was a bad idea and brought him back. He first attends college as a student, and later becomes a professor there.
Besides school teachings, Mr. Feeny was always a great mentor, friend, and grandfather to the kids. He could be hard and strict.
But always encouraged them
and tried to teach them life lessons.
Sarcastic, sweet and ultimately lovable. This series really won a place in everyone's heart! So much that Disney decided to bring it back (sort-of) with a series chronicling Cory and Topanga's daughter Girl Meets World. Power of the fans! We rock!
For more on Boy Meets World, go to Who's Afraid of Cory Wolf
When you become friends with someone one of the first things you do is try and brainwash them into liking everything you like.
It's not like you are trying to make them into something else, change them, or anything like that. It's just you love something so much you want to share it with the world. You want everyone to love it as much as you.
This is what happened with my friend Elaine and the show Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
I had heard of Buffy the Vampire Slayer as I like Sarah Michelle Geller, but I was never really into the show. I did see the 1992 film and loved it. It was more of a horror-parody than scary film, and Joss Wheedon decided that with the TV show he wanted to take it to a deeper level.
So in the show we have a blonde, sweet, "damsel in distress like character" be the Slayer. That is the woman who is going to save the world slaying demons, monsters, vampires, aliens, bug creatures, etc.
Buffy is a strong, independent woman that totally kicks butt and goes against every female stereotype. The only thing that I wonder is if you know you are going to be hunting vampires, why not invest in heavy duty turtlenecks?
She is lead by Giles her Watcher or mentor. He's the type of guy you'd want as a dad or uncle.
One if her best friends is Willow (played by Alison Hannigan) a shy, insecure, brilliant girl. Later she takes care of spells and reversing curses.
We have Xander who is a total goofball. He is the comic relief and has some hilarious moments. He also has some really stupid ones. But that's to be expected.
Cheating on his girlfriend with his best friend. Going off with Faith and sleeping with her.
But he does have his moments. Like the Halloween episode when everyone turns into their costumes, and he becomes this intense military guy.
Then we have Cordelia, the snooty, rich girl. At first she is Buffy's nemesis, but she actually ends helping the group out. The more you see her the more you love her. She and Xander date for a while, until Xander screws it up.
And then you have Angel (played by the sexy David Boreanaz).
Oh yeah, one of the best characters in the series.
Angel was a guy living in Ireland in the 19th century. He was turned into a vampire and wrecked havoc on the world. He was cursed by a group of witches in getting his soul back, forcing him to have feelings and a conscious. He turns from his life of killing, to protecting; attempting to atone for his mistakes. He's just the way I love them:
He's just one of the most romantic characters ever!
To read more about him, come back next March and check out my Saint Patrick's Day post.
Besides a great show, great actors, great characters, and great lines; it has one amazing theme song.
Yep, thanks to Elaine this is now my show. 🙂
Go here to see which you belong in
For more on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, go to Every Time I Bring A Girl Over, You Try to Eat Her!: Vampires Suck (2010)
I love Captain America. I just think he is one of the best superheros ever. He is so earnest, sweet, perfect!
I mean he is just everything you want in a guy. 🙂 I loved the film Captain America: The First Avenger. At first I wasn't going to see it because of Chris Evans. I mean I never hated the actor, it's just he did a horrible job in the Fantastic Four films, and let's be honest. Practically every film he's ever been in he plays an egotistical jerk. Not Another Teen Movie, Cellular, Fantastic Four, The Nanny Diaries, etc. But when I watched the film it was perfect, PERFECT!
I think that prior to The Avengers, it was the best superhero created yet. I completely forgot that it was Chris Evans and instead just saw the Captain America I love!
This past spring break I went to Disneyland as my graduation present to myself. One of the recent changes they have made is that in Tomorrowland you can see the Iron Man suits, Thor props and meet him and MEET CAPTAIN AMERICA! I was thrilled and fangirled out!
I couldn't wait to meet him. I mean I was like Phil Coulson. Anyways, when we found out, my friend Elaine and I made plans to go asap and get our pictures with him. As we waited in line, I was joking around that I wasn't sure what I would do. I might even totally fangirl over him and throw myself at him. LOL I'm not that crazy, lol.
So once we reached the second floor that housed the superheros, even though Captain America was to the right they forced you to go all the way around through the Iron Man and Thor exhibits. Elaine and I had already checked those out, so we took off running past Iron Man, Thor, playstation etc. We reached Captain America and were like third in line, excited although really tired.
When we got to Captain America, I totally lost it. Even though I knew that the guy wasn't the real Captain America he just seemed so real! I threw myself at him and hugged him like five times. I babbled on that he was one of my favorites and how happy I was to see him.
A total fangirl.
He was cool with it. In fact he was perfect. He took the whole thing in stride.
After we took like ten photos (me & Elaine), we were heading out when this happened:
"Captain America: Hey, Moreland.
Me: Yeah?
Captain America: Maybe I'll see you around.
Me: Okay!"
I was like:
Even though I knew the odds were zilch and not going to happen, there was still a small fraction of me that was hoping maybe, just maybe we would run into each other again.
Yep, the mentality of a fangirl. This is why we have places like tumblr where we can be understood for our irrationalities.
Thank goodness it was Elaine who was with me and understood.
The next day we were heading back to our apartment and stopped off to see Elaine's parents. We showed her mom all our pictures. She was looking at the Captain America one, and wondered out loud what kind of padding he was wearing. I told her that there wasn't any padding. Those muscles were real.
If you love Captain America as much as I do, come back in March and check out my St. Patrick's Day post to hear more on him.
Otherwise: For more Captain America, go to Fanning All Over the Place
So while other kids grew up waiting for a letter to Hogwarts, or Camp Half-Blood, or any of those other places I was like whatever. I wanted to go to Narnia. I read the books and watched all the BBC films. I was so disappointed that I could never find a wardrobe to take me there (no matter how hard I tried).
It was the first fandom I have ever been in and the one I'll be in until I die. I will never grow tired of C.S. Lewis' books. You're never too old for them.
The first book in the series is The Magician's Nephew (1). It was actually the sixth book, but he wrote it as a prequel to the rest of the series. I thought it was okay, but he introduces a backstory that gives me more questions for the whole series. It's not bad, but not one of my favorites. In it Digory and a Polly find themselves being sent to multiple worlds, having some of those enter their own world, and even witnessing the creation of Narnia.
The actual book that started it all was The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe (2). This is my favorite as it is the first and AWESOME!
The time is the 1940s and four siblings, Peter, Susan, Edmund, and Lucy, are sent to the country to get away from the bombs of London. While staying at the house they go through a wardrobe into a magical world. The four find themselves caught in a battle between the evil White Witch and the Godly Lion, Aslan.
It is an amazing adventure story with magic, animals, swordfighting, everything you love and want! I always wanted to be Peter the High King and Lord of Narnia. I thought that he was just amazing as he fights the White Queen, werewolves, etc. One Christmas my mother bought me a bible cover that had images from the books and one was Peter with his sword held high. I used to joke that the guy I ended up with had to have the inner soul of that. Yeah-not a joke.
The "next book" is A Horse and His Boy (3). I don't really like this book as it was written fifth and doesn't fit in the timeline right. In The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe it ends with the kids having lived far into their lives and returning home to discover they are back to their orginal ages and had only been gone a few hours. This book takes place in the middle of that time of them ruling. It bugs me as it just doesn't go. I could have lived without it.
The next book Prince Caspian (4) was another of my all-time favorites and was orginally the sequel to the first. Time between Narnia and our world is much different. In the first book 40 years passed and it was only a few hours. In this one, hundreds of years have passed in Narnia. The land is ruled by men and talking animals, dwarfs, etc.; no longer roam the area. Prince Caspian is a young prince, about 10-12, who has grown up hearing the stories of King Peter, Queen Susan, King Edmund, and Queen Lucy. His uncle is ruling the land until he comes of age. One night he has to flee for his life as his uncle is set on killing him and making his newborn son the next in line for the throne. He rallies the rest of the magical creatures and calls on the help of the four from the first book.
This was another of my favs as it had the same kind of action and magic of the first one.
Then comes Voyage of the Dawn Treader (5). In this one Peter and Susan are no longer allowed back into Narnia as they are too old. Lucy and Edmond go back, and take along their horrible, annoying cousin Eustace (on accident). They find themselves on the Dawn Treader a boat built by King Caspian, now in his 20s. I loved this book as they are traveling through the lone islands and searching for the lost Lords exiled under his uncle. This has amazing adventures, swordfights, magic, dragons, etc.
In The Silver Chair (6) Lucy and Edmond are also too old to return to Narnia. Instead a bullied Eustace and Jill Pole find there way there. It has been many years in Narnia, as Caspian is now an old man. His son was lost to him years ago, just up and vanished, and Aslan sends Eustace and Jill to find him. They meet up with a Marshwiggle named Puddleglum, who is so negative it is hilarious. In here they continue their adventuring coming upon giants, black knights, underground men, etc.
The last book is The Last Battle (7). This book is the end of the series. It has been hundreds and hundreds of years since Caspian and his son. One day a monkey finds a lion skin, clothes a donkey with it, and proclaims him Aslan. There like in Animal Farm, he begins to use his newly gained power to turn the animals into slaves. Eustace and Jill use the magic rings from the first book to help Narnia, and are soon followed by everyone. Endings are always sad, but this one goes out with a bang.
The BBC films are amazing as they copy the books to a T. The actors are also fantastic. The special effects are so-so, but that was the technology they had and you got to give them props for that. The Disney versions are horrible. HORRIBLE! Trust me, don't watch them at all. Read instead.
For more on The Chronicles of Narnia, go to 25 Films of Christmas
Copper is one of those shows that was amazing and got canceled far too early (only two seasons). I'm still upset over that.
So I wanted to watch Copper when it first came out as it intrguied me. It was a historical drama and plus it had him:
Let me back, up I'm getting too far ahead of myself. So Copper takes place during the mid 19th century in New York City. New York has a lot of tension not only between the Southerners and Northerners; but the racial clashes between "Americans", "White" Europeans, Irish, and African-Americans. The main character, Kevin "Corky" Corcoran is an Irish immigrant, who has become a "copper". He tries to keep the notorious Five Points in line with its murders, thievery, prostitution, opium trade, etc.
During the war, Corky worked with the wealthy Robert Morehouse (played by the hot guy from Alley Cats Strike). Morehouse used his influence to get Corky that job. Matthew Freeman, a freed slave who fought with them during the Civil War, acts as Corky's pathologist and coroner.
They had the first season free on Amazon Instant Watch and I breezed through it and the second one as well.
The main character is amazing as he is just what I like:
And Irish. 🙂
He also really cares about the people in his neighborhood and protecting him. He not only a honorable man, but one of action who goes out and takes care of things. Super attractive!
Besides all those wonderful things, Copper also has a great intro.
For more on Copper, go to At the End of the Rainbow: 17 More Irish Heros
If people don't like it, well:
The ones who do understand you, you will have awesome times with.
For Part 1 go to Fanning All Over the Place
And Stay Tuned for Part 3
For more book filled posts, go to Peeta Please!
For more of my favorite quotes, go to I Before E, Especially After P
For more quizzes, go to That Girl is Poison
For more Disney, go to The Little Moreland
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