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[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Promotions&diff=1488218&oldid=1487813 Shitting up promotions again] with a bid that is pretty much copied from Bob's bid. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 09:16, 19 June 2009 (BST)
:'''Vandalism''' Just like last time. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:19, 19 June 2009 (BST)
::He got five vouches, have an open mind --{{User:Pestolence/Sig}} 19:37, 19 June 2009 (BST)
===[[User:Mr. Cunt]]===
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1 Guidelines for Vandalism Reporting
2 Before Submitting a Report
3 Vandalism Report Space
3.1 June 2009
3.1.1 User:WOOT
3.1.2 User:Mr. Cunt
3.1.3 User:AnimeSucks
3.1.4 User:J3D
3.1.6 User:Nubis
3.1.7 User:Iamlegend
3.1.8 User:Iscariot
3.1.8.1 VANDALISM
3.1.8.2 Perma-Ban Vote
3.1.8.3 ruling
3.1.9 User:Beelzebub
3.1.10 User:Diyaseb
This page is for the reporting of vandalism within the Urban Dead wiki, as defined by vandalism policy. On this wiki, the punishment for Vandalism is temporary banning, but due to security concerns, the ability to mete out this punishment is restricted to System Operators. As such, regular users will need to lodge a report for a Vandal to be banned from the wiki. For consistency and accountability, System Operators are requested to note on this board their actions in dealing with Vandals.
Guidelines for Vandalism Reporting
In dealing with Vandalism, time is often of the essence. As such, we ask that all users include the following information in a Vandalism report:
A link to the pages in question.
Preferably bolded for visibility. If the Vandalism is occurring over a sufficiently large number of pages, instead include a time range of the vandalism attempt, or alternatively, a link to the first vandalised page. This allows us to quickly find the damage so we can quickly assess the situation.
The user name of the Vandal.
This allows us to more easily identify the culprit, and to check details.
A signed datestamp.
For accountability purposes, we ask that you record in your request your user name and the time you lodged the report.
Please report at the top.
There's conflict with where to post and a lot of the reports are missed. If it's placed at the top of the page it's probably going to be seen and dealt with.
If you see Vandalism in progress, don't wait for System Operators to deal with it, as there may be no System Operator online at the time. Lodge the report, then start reverting pages back to their original form. This can be done by going to the "History" tab at the top of the page, and finding the last edit before the Vandal's attack. When a System Operator is available, they'll assess the situation, and if the report is legitimate, we will take steps to either warn the vandal, or ban them if they are on their second warning.
If the page is long, you can add new reports by editing the top report and placing your new report above its header in the edit screen.
Before Submitting a Report
This page, Vandal Banning, deals with bad-faith breaches of official policy.
Interpersonal complaints are better sorted out at UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration.
As much as is practical, assume good faith and try to iron out problems with other users one to one, only using this page as a last resort.
Avoid submitting reports which are petty.
Vandalism Report Space
Administration Notice
Talk with the user before reporting or accusing someone of vandalism for small edits. In most cases it's simply a case of a new user that doesn't know how this wiki works. Sometimes assuming good faith and speaking with others can avoid a lot of drama, and can even help newbies feel part of this community.
If you are not a System Operator, the user who made the vandal report, the user being reported, or directly involved in the case, the administration asks that you use the talk page for further discussion. Free-for-all commenting can lead to a less respectful environment.
Warned users can remove one entry of their warning history every one month and 250 edits after their last warning. Remember to ask a sysop to remove them in due time. You are as responsible for keeping track of your history as the sysops are; In case of a sysop wrongly punishing you due to an outdated history, he might not be punished for his actions.
User:WOOT
WOOT (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Shitting up promotions again with a bid that is pretty much copied from Bob's bid. -- Cheese 09:16, 19 June 2009 (BST)
Vandalism Just like last time. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 09:19, 19 June 2009 (BST)
He got five vouches, have an open mind --Pestolence(talk) 19:37, 19 June 2009 (BST)
User:Mr. Cunt
Mr. Cunt (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Permaban
He's asking for it. :P --Bob Boberton TF / DW 02:01, 18 June 2009 (BST)
His profile asks for the same. How strange. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 02:11, 18 June 2009 (BST)
Mr. C: lol please for the love of god just get rid of my account! :p Aw come on!!! You can see we are one and the same... Other than swearing like mad, really, I just want the damn thing got rid of! The lack of options to delete or contact anyone on UrbanDead made me resort to this drunken tactic.-- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mr. Cunt (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.
I'll take that as a request. Permabanned. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:25, 18 June 2009 (BST)
And as for getting his actual urban dead account deleted, well, maybe he should be a little less compulsive and just walk away from the game and go outside. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 06:20, 18 June 2009 (BST)
User:AnimeSucks
AnimeSucks (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Not Vandalism
Bad faith vouch on Blake Firedancer's promotion bid for the sole reason of drawing it out. --Cyberbob 11:06, 16 June 2009 (BST)
Vandalism - This is not on. The input offered nothing for the Crats to review in relation to the bid. The worst part in my opinion is if this is counted as a legitimate vote, it will put Blake through the stress of 2 more weeks of waiting for his bid to end, which I think is unfair to him. He has every right, as a candidate, to wait his bid out to the end without withdrawing it from fear of being used as a symbol of humour from other users, which was Anime's only purpose in voting. The bid is already 4 days overdue, and there is no reason why it should be extended. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:09, 16 June 2009 (BST)
lol what a retarded vandalism. my "vouch which is not a vote" is considered vandalism, when cyberbob's "Retard. Fuck off." is a non-case. Give me a break with your double standards.--THE Godfather of Яesensitized, Anime Sucks Yalk | W! U! WMM| CC CPFOAS LOE ZHU | Яezzens 14:29, 16 June 2009 (BST)
If you don't see the difference between the motivations behind your "vote" and mine then I don't know what to tell you. I can't even see Honest making that kind of a fuckup; are you sure you're not just grasping at straws? --Cyberbob 15:28, 16 June 2009 (BST)
You really do have no idea. It isn't about the content of the vouch that matters, nearly as much as the motivation behind it. You honestly think this relates in the slightest to Bob's 'retard, fuck off'? Because they are two totally separate issues. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:46, 17 June 2009 (BST)
Not Vandalism Although I do question the motives of the vouch in this case, I have done the same thing to bring a candidates vote up so that it could go through the process and be archived under failed bids...Hopefully when Blake has some more time in and if he still wants a shot at it he can look back on the bid and address some of the concerns raised there. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 14:41, 16 June 2009 (BST)
A bid is still filed in the archives even if it doesn't get three vouches, you know. You're being incredibly naive if you don't see anything but a meanspirited attempt to prolong the bid's life so him and his buddies can get more laughs out of it here. --Cyberbob 15:25, 16 June 2009 (BST)
Whether he had the three vouches or not, his two weeks were up, and the overwhelming lack of support made it clear the bid would not continue. Not Vandalism on the grounds that he's entitled to give a vouch while the bid is still technically open, no matter what his reasoning behind it is. And if we want, we can always say that his vouch shows that AS believes Blake can do well enough to at least warrant a third vouch.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:28, 16 June 2009 (BST)
I don't think you've made enough excuses for him. Two or three more should do it though. --Cyberbob 15:31, 16 June 2009 (BST)
But I don't have anymore. :( --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:39, 16 June 2009 (BST)
See, this is interesting. This isn't a "newbie mistake". So, you can't chalk it up to that. And he knows how promotions work. So, what motivation is there to add a vouch after 2 weeks? He also posted on Bob's on June 9th so why not post on Blake's then, too? Other people posted on Blake's around the 9th. Anime's one post his SOLO CONTRIBUTION on the 9th was to bitch on Bob's promo bid. This really smells like a bad faith edit. Vandalism when you consider the whole picture.--– Nubis NWO 00:41, 17 June 2009 (BST)
Not vandalism - joke vouches are all to common (all 3 on this bid), and just something that the 'crats ignore. Blake can withdraw the bid at any time, and really already should have. I think I remember Vista giving a token vouch in order to push a bid into community discussion in the past, actually -- boxy talk • teh rulz 04:33 17 June 2009 (BST)
Is that any reason to permit it now? Joke vouches may be "common" but usually the joke is genuinely lighthearted. AS' "joke" was just meanspiritedness. --Cyberbob 06:47, 17 June 2009 (BST)
This is also coming from someone that gets pissy at people shitting up admin pages, Bob. Doesn't that strike you as ...hypocritical? -- #99 DCC 14:09, 17 June 2009 (BST)
He made the case. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:12, 17 June 2009 (BST)
I'm pretty sure DCC knows that but I still don't quite understand what is being said. --Cyberbob 14:38, 17 June 2009 (BST)
Most probably your comments, replying and input in the discussion in this case. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:40, 17 June 2009 (BST)
Don't worry. *sigh* --Cyberbob 14:42, 17 June 2009 (BST)
I was talking about boxy and his decision. I hoped that adding "Bob" would show that I was talking TO bob but not about BOB. Didn't realize that indents ruled over content.-- #99 DCC 23:17, 17 June 2009 (BST)
Not Vandalism 'cause I don't mind. Really. I accepted that it wouldn't pass a few days ago, given the trend of the first few votes. It's OK, I don't mind. Besides, most of what's there basically says 'not yet'. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 09:34, 17 June 2009 (BST)
whelp, might want to unbold that if you don't want someone vee-beeing you for impersonating a sysop --Cyberbob 09:40, 17 June 2009 (BST)
Oh, right. Sorry. Italicerising! --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 09:42, 17 June 2009 (BST)
I'm going to finish this case as Not Vandalism, as per the above vote. I can't imagine any of the other sysops feeling the need to add their input (without being prodded), so I think that's all we'll need on this case. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:22, 17 June 2009 (BST)
User:J3D
J3D (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Trying to worm his way around the previous case by continuing with the LOL RACISM line of thought, except just not actually saying nigger. --Cyberbob 08:22, 8 June 2009 (BST)
The funny part is, I'm not even American, let alone African American. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 08:25, 8 June 2009 (BST)
He doesn't care cos unironic racism is relly funnay --Cyberbob 08:27, 8 June 2009 (BST)
lol yeah, it's really funnah and Vandalism - see below and here. Linkthewindow Talk 08:43, 8 June 2009 (BST)
Seriously, promotions pages (as well as admin pages in general) aren't to be spammed up with pointless racist comments. It could possibly be against the terms of use (first point,) too. Linkthewindow Talk 08:52, 8 June 2009 (BST)
You do realise the vital differences between this case and the two you cited, right? DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 08:59, 8 June 2009 (BST)
Struck the first one - Grim's comment "Such pages are not the places to be making such slurs against other groups and users, especially such crude and revolting ones," made me think that J3D was making a similar comment. However, you know better (not being sarcastic here,) and the purge has removed the actual edit. Thanks for pointing that out.
Compared to the one below, however, he's still being offensive (even if he's not specifically mentioning the word "nigger",) trying to avoid the below ruling, and doing it on an admin page.
But, of course, I could be wrong, and that's why it's a vote for more ambiguous cases. Linkthewindow Talk 09:18, 8 June 2009 (BST)
Not Vandalism - There are a few main differences with this case... I'm not trying to save J3D from winning two escalations in 24 hours, I just think this case lacks the reasons I voted vandalism in the previous case:
J3D actually specifies that he is against whereas he failed to do so before, so now his post actually has a meaning behind it other than just spouting profanities pointlessly.
He doesn't vulgarly say something like the word 'nigger'. because of this and #1, his explanation now is similar to the controversial 'retard; fuck off' phrase, J3D says being an African American makes Blake inferior, Bob implies it by suggesting being retarded is an undesirable trait... etc. Blake is neither an african american or a retard, so both insults now have the same impact.
In relation to the 2008 case, J3D is not trying to pass pass off crude racism (ie. [[retards|dutch]]) as neutral information on a locations page. He is saying this of his own opinion, and whilst in the last case I ruled on the crude language J3D used (and the fact there was nothing else in the edit to save it from being bad-faith), there is no specifically crude language here, the vote on A/PM quite obviously a joke (albeit not funny).
If shit humour was vandalism, I would have warned him by now. But... I'm going to vote not vandalism. Mostly based on the fact that I don't believe the edit in question to be bad faith because it's main function is to be an against vote for Blake Firedancer. I could be swayed otherwise, I'm fence-sitting on this one. But in the meantime, I can't rule vandalism on this case. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 09:34, 8 June 2009 (BST)
Ruling Not Vandalism isn't fencesitting. If you want to fencesit the way to do it is to not rule at all. The primary reason for this case being vandalism (racism notwithstanding), DDR, is the fact that he's clearly trying to make the exact same joke as he did initially while "cunningly" not directly violating the first ruling. He's following it to the letter, but he's taking advantage of all the little "I wouldn't have voted vandalism if" statements people made and trying to hide behind them. Look at his most recent edit to your talk page. --Cyberbob 09:37, 8 June 2009 (BST)
Yes, the one of the reasons I voted vandalism was that - he's clearly trying to get around the previous ruling by saying the same thing, but without using the word "nigger". As Conn said below, it's both racist, and can hardly be called good faith. Linkthewindow Talk 10:53, 8 June 2009 (BST)
The first edit was not the product of J3D deciding he was going to insult a race and vandalise A/PM. He made the edit to add unnecessary input to a promotions bid that was failing (as many people do). His use of the word 'niggers' was just the same as WTFcentaurs, but in an idiotic style. His second attempt, to me, was a way of legitimising the vote, but the extra comment was not a way of working around the ruling, he is just having a joke at the concept. I am assuming good faith because J3D has absolutely nothing to gain, and a lot to lose, from trying to work around the previous ruling in this way- I think his attempting a joke about the affair is just so much more likely. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 11:09, 8 June 2009 (BST)
You'll learn. --Cyberbob 11:13, 8 June 2009 (BST)
Vandalism States very clearly that those of African descent are inferior. This is obviously a racist statement and is a bad faith edit/statement against an entire sub-population of the wiki. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 10:50, 8 June 2009 (BST)
I see the term Afro-merican as biased in itself because you are assuming they are of an African and American descent. And also, while he technically was using his racism as his against vote, him restating it all in a "less derogatory manner" is still going against the spirit of our previous ruling. Which is to remove the blatant trolling racism. Vanderlisms--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:32, 8 June 2009 (BST)
Keep on movin' those goal posts. The edit in question is just as innaproriate as reads and bobs comments, both went through unchecked and i can't see why this shouldn't either. So nigger isn't appropriate for an admin page, fair enough, but as both read and bob expressed an opinion of a user based on a fictional trait i don't see why i shouldn't be allowed to.--xoxo 15:58, 8 June 2009 (BST)
Warned -- boxy talk • teh rulz 03:30 9 June 2009 (BST)
hahaha thats so funnyoh wait it isn't. Racism as sohock humour is Not Good. --Cyberbob 20:32, 7 June 2009 (BST)
Discussion moved to talk page
lolvandalism.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 20:50, 7 June 2009 (BST)
J3D has been warned about racism in the past, so vandalism for shouting out (tourettes like) offensive words instead of actually contributing to the page with something that the crats can actually use to make a decision, and like it or not, "retard, fuck off" does indeed get the contributors opinion across quite effectively -- boxy talk • teh rulz 22:36 7 June 2009 (BST)
Vandalism Despite the evidence of a connection to 4chan...uncalled for. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 22:47, 7 June 2009 (BST)
Vandalism - I considered it different when it was on ALiM, or my talk page... But uncalled for on a promotions page, serves no purpose as a A/PM 'vote', and straight off a page linked from the main page... DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:10, 8 June 2009 (BST)
He's doing it again... --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 08:20, 8 June 2009 (BST)
User:Nubis
Nubis (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
As Midianian's Nubis A/M case, only it's vandalism not misconduct. See here and here. --xoxo 06:53, 5 June 2009 (BST)
And it's been judged misconduct. Those edits are still the basis of a misconduct case, going to multiple admin sections with what amounts to pretty much the same thing is forum shopping. Sure, we don't have a guideline against forum shopping, that doesn't mean you have to take your vendetta to every page you know. ;) --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 13:47, 5 June 2009 (BST)
What vendetta? And it hasn't been taken to demotions, yet ;) --xoxo 07:28, 6 June 2009 (BST)
The vendetta that you to have against each other that is more obvious then the fact that Cyberbob is a troll.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 20:51, 7 June 2009 (BST)
Not Vandalism - The real case lies on A/M. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:15, 8 June 2009 (BST)
User:Iamlegend
Iamlegend (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Stuff. -- AHLGTG 20:49, 3 June 2009 (BST)
IP check request. Seems to be an alt of Beelzebub. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 21:06, 3 June 2009 (BST)
It does not match, because he's been using proxies for a while now. It's still safe to say he's an alt, and gets the perma.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:09, 3 June 2009 (BST)
User:Iscariot
Iscariot (talk | contribs | logs | block | IP Check | vndl data | discuss)
Week Ban
At this point UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct#User:Suicidalangel and #User:Suicidalangel can pretty much be guaranteed to qualify as harassment, even if you ignore the aside comments outside of these areas. Iscariot knows enough to know neither one is the case and he made them simply for the sake of disrupting the wiki; Bad Faith. Enjoy. --Karekmaps?! 14:25, 2 June 2009 (BST)
So. Whats up fellow sysops team?
First things first. This isn't spur of the moment-based-upon-me-getting-A/VBd-and-A/Md so much, but rather the culmination of many months of seeing this shit go on.
Iscariot is a blight upon our community.
Any good he does or has done is outweighed by far by the bad he contributes to our fair (well, somewhat fair) community. Just about every post is degrading towards the sysops team, and many more of his posts are degrading towards newbies and veteran users too. He causes trouble and disrupts normal wiki process, and is unwilling to fix problems he sees in the wiki infrastructure simply because he doesn't have to and it will give him a chance to cause trouble with said problem until it is fixed.
Simply look through his contributions. I literally closed my eyes and scrolled down the list with my scroll nub on my mouse picking out 20 random edits. You know how many of them didn't have to do with harassing the sysops team? 3. Do you know how many of those three didn't harass another user in any way? 1. That edit was on his user page, changing the colours of something.
One single edit. On his user page. 19 edits that were harrassive (this needs to be a word). Why do we let this continue?
When Iscariot first came to the wiki, his behavior was pretty decent, and I actually liked a lot of his contributions from his early days. But soon after he came here, he developed this severe paranoia complex, coupled with a hate mission against the sysops team. Since then, his edits have mostly been shit. That's all you can say really.
This page contains quite bit of evidence of his bullshit, but honestly, just look through his contributions. There is no use keeping him around if this is the way things are going to be.
I move that we take a vote to remove Iscariot for 3 or more months, or a perma-ban. His behavior and actions more than justify this. If he doesn't want to act even semi-civil (hell, that Zombie Lord guy that every one is complaining about? Look how he acts when he's not insulting Pesatyel. Rather good and decent. Whats izzy's problem?), then why should he be allowed to stay?
I don't care so much about the harassment against me specifically, I've dealt with bigger trolls elsewhere, but it's more than just me.
3 or higher. That seems like the only course of action he's going to leave us. Most of the sysops team has agreed that Iscariot is a problem in one way or another, in one place or another. Some don't think that he has done explicit enough vandalism to punish him, fine. But what we all need to realize is that we don't have a civility policy. And by the guidelines "System operators are also given the authority to make decisions regarding actions for which there is no governing policy in place. For example, should a particular action for which there is no policy be disputed, system operators may exercise their best judgment to allow or deny it" we have the power to make this decision. There is no policy, and until then, we have to make a choice on a case by case basis. All of the sysop team needs to come out here, think about it and make a decision based on whats the best for the community, not whats the best for our images. Not whats best to end the drama quickly. If this turns in to a massive shit storm, whatever. It'll happen eventually, we should fix the problem now. Iscariot needs to be removed. He needs to learn a lesson. He's not untouchable, he's not the voice of the community, he's not a martyr for a good cause. He's a problem, and he can be taken care of. The entire community needs to see that just because their isn't a civility policy, doesn't mean we aren't going to step in if it's required. Something should have been done ages ago, so we need to do something now.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:16, 2 June 2009 (BST)
Ban He has been given way too many chances. He has not been hounded by the sysop team in any way yet he still attacks them on many (often pointless matters) and he by his own admission contributes nothing. He clearly seems unhappy here and there is no reason he should remain. I submit everything documented on here which should be more than enough to show a history of abuse.
If the sysop team can not remove the biggest blight in the community then A/VB might as well be deleted. Pissant little page edits that are reported as vandalism are nothing compared to a career hostile troll. --– Nubis NWO 01:44, 3 June 2009 (BST)
Against - A user shouldn't be forced out of the UDWiki against his will, unless through the vandal escalation system. Iscariot is no doubt a pest to the community, he is a parasite that does nothing except irritate the sysops where he can, when not just editing his own userpages. But that is exactly what Iscariot is- nothing.
I have always refused to believe that a normal user cannot make it by on the wiki without being bullied by him. In my recent experiences, I have gotten by with him on a non-aggressive level by simply ignoring him when possible- and engaging with him on a professional level, when he bites. He accepts it, and moves on. Of course, there will always be users like SirArgo who justify his antagonism and fuel him further, but that is exactly what we are doing now.
Every user deserves the right to reform, and we all know 3 months isn't enough (nor would it make him reform, it would only bring him back more bitter than usual) but a perma is out of the question, for someone who isn't permabannable through VandalData. See here where we don't even respond to his idiotic rants, and we vote Not Misconduct/Vandalism on almost every piece of trash he throws at us (and usually the legit cases to, or so he would say). And how long could he go for? If we hate a user, we have the responsibility as members of the community, not sysops, to ignore him when possible and not fuel more drama. It is not to wait until we are sick of conforming and ban him. It's our responsibility and promise to the community.
He has minimal contributions and minimal influence on the wiki - let's keep it that way, not make him a real martyr.
I, however, am aware at one point the Sysops would have tried the technique of ignoring him in the past... As such, I'm not sure if the sysops can expect anything from me at this point, except to be the new sysop who is uncultured with the op's past with said user. But regardless of any justification I may try to use, my position is simple: unless I have a very large problem with a user, I will never vote to remove them from the community under these circumstances. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 02:36, 3 June 2009 (BST)
Thank you for your input. --– Nubis NWO 03:32, 3 June 2009 (BST)
Vandalism 1 week ban and voting for a perma-ban starting. --– Nubis NWO 13:45, 3 June 2009 (BST)
What in god's name? Couldn't you have at leased waited for the sysops (and Iscariot) to have a chance to offer some discussion on this page before forcing sysops into the vote? Was a few days' wait just too much for you? We have time on our side, but you still dived into banning Iscariot so he could be denied the chance of defending this all-important case (regardless of the shit he will say given the chance). I am ruling Vandalism on this case, but I am unbanning Iscariot and subsequently considering this case open until the other sysops get their chance to offer input into this case. Regardless of the ruling and your rights as a ruling Sysop, If you ban Iscariot again, I will send you to A/M for pre-emptively banning a user solely to prohibit them from defending their own perma-ban case. There is no other reason why you should be rushing for the end of this VB case so hastily. Please, Nubis, I am not doing this because of my stance on the vote, I merely beg you to wait for some more input and discussion before we throw ourselves into the act of voting. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:05, 3 June 2009 (BST)
I agree, this is being far too rushed. I'm not decided about the permaban myself, but the whole thing is ridiculous. Iscariot has not commented on this case a single time as of yet, and is now being denied the chance to defend himself like any other user. Iscariot, during his psychobabble, often talks of "Not being given a fair chance". You'll only be proving him right if he isn't given a chance to speak. As I said, I'm not sure on the permaban, I don't really like Iscariot's wiki actions, but give the man a chance to defend himself like anyone else.-- Adward 15:31, 3 June 2009 (BST)
Not vandalism - if I messed with anyone's sig template, let alone Iscariot's, I'd be expecting a vandalism/misconduct case, even though I would be fairly confident that they wouldn't be successful -- boxy talk • teh rulz 15:25 3 June 2009 (BST)
Thanks for your input -- Boxy 15:25, 3 June 2009 (BST)
Yet, you supported Hagnut when he banned and edited the fuck out of SLRs sig because he didn't like it. Interesting.-- #99 DCC 20:43, 7 June 2009 (BST)
What's your point? Exactly like that case, I also supported the editing of this sig, it's just that I don't think that Iscariot (or anyone) should be vandal banned for appealing such a contentious decision of SA editing his sig, by taking it to the rest of the sysop team on A/VB and A/M, and calling that harassment, which is basically what happened here -- boxy talk • teh rulz 15:20 8 June 2009 (BST)
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– Nubis NWO
DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:05, 3 June 2009 (BST)
Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 08:45, 4 June 2009 (BST)
-- boxy talk • teh rulz 15:25 3 June 2009 (BST)
See Misconduct
Perma-Ban Vote
--– Nubis NWO 13:45, 3 June 2009 (BST)
--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 14:46, 3 June 2009 (BST)
But only because he shows no sign or desire to really work with the sysops, within the established system. He continually claims he has some sort of community consensus to turn and burn on the sysops who have to spend more time dealing with complaints about sysop behavior and guidelines from him than other responsibilities to maintaining the wiki. He has used the pages of the wiki to harass and cause harm (even if that harm is considered annoyance by some) And whereas Harassment is against the established T.O.U. He needs to be gone unless he can indicate some type of willingness to adjust the offensive rhetoric. Conndrakamod TAZM CFT 08:52, 4 June 2009 (BST)
--DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 14:49, 3 June 2009 (BST)
Permban votes come after the month ban, not at the one week stage -- boxy talk • teh rulz 15:25 3 June 2009 (BST)
That only applies in general vandalism cases. Here we don't have policy to back up and dictate what we do. His harassment is vandalism over a long period of time, and being that we have no civility policy we must decide what to do on a case by case basis. Don't cite policy or processes when there is nothing citable (should also be a word).--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:06, 3 June 2009 (BST)
We don't have a policy on civility because the community has rejected them fairly convincingly in the past, so it's not exactly a policy vacuum. This wiki has a long history of tolerating people being asses on pages like suggestions, because it is a place where people's opinions need to be heard, even if it dents a few fragile egos. The only reason Iscariot is being considered for a permban is because of his admin page bullshit annoying sysops, and given that he's been escalated for that in the past, and no doubt will again in the future, there is no need to bypass any escalations just because a few sysops feel put upon. It's laughable that you should consider his cases against you to be harassment when it was you that initiated the whole thing by editing his sig page. You were within your rights to do it, but so should it be that Iscariot has the right to appeal against such treatment -- boxy talk • teh rulz 03:26 4 June 2009 (BST)
It's not just civility that's the problem, boxy. Those policies, the few there were, didn't make it because they were bad, not because people are perfectly fine with abusive and uncivil behaviour. -- AHLGTG 03:38, 4 June 2009 (BST)
Perhaps so. But it's not in any way a green light to ignore vandal banning escalation policy when uncivil behaviour is deemed vandalism -- boxy talk • teh rulz 03:47 4 June 2009 (BST)
The mere fact that there have been many attempts at a policy clearly shows that the users WANT one, but can't agree on much more than harassment is never right.--– Nubis NWO 16:48, 4 June 2009 (BST)
It's laughable because when you actually read, I say I'm basing this more off of his shit with everyone else than with me. And even then not just these cases. Karek is the one that brought the case, calling them harassment, along with other users. Not me. Hell, I can't even make a ruling on the actual case because of how involved I am. If it was only me being harassed I wouldn't even consider this. I'd pursue arbitration, and then end up failing because no one would force him to participate in it, and I'd just have to deal with his shit. This case, Arbies is not an option, nor is it only about me. This isn't a normal case, this isn't one person having to deal with it.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 03:51, 4 June 2009 (BST)
As much as I want Iscariot gone, we follow process and a perma-ban vote is called after a month ban.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 16:36, 3 June 2009 (BST)
The General isn't really a sysop. This is like his what 3rd time ever on A/VB? Don't expect him to know policy. Also, don't expect him to have a clue about the history of Iscariot. General and I went round and round about the move page ability because he didn't realize that Iscariot decided that every group tied in with DEM needed to be under DEM. (that being one of the many shit storms Izzy stirred up for no good reason other than to support his own wiki lawyering bitching). --– Nubis NWO 16:48, 4 June 2009 (BST)
I used to fairly active on A/VB, not sure if you remember that, but I've been inactive for a while now to to bring incredible busy in RL. I am familiar with policy, considering that I had a hand in writing large parts of it. The "best judgement" clause has been around for along time but rarely used because Sysops always seemed to get lynched for using any power that wasn't specifically voted in as a policy. I don't know Iscariot's complete history in intricate detail but I have dealt with him enough and read through his past misconduct cases to be able to judge his character. I'm not sure quite what point you are making about the page move policy except for showing that I wasn't prepared to throw a whole policy out of the window because one user likes to cause drama and to demonstrate the pointless drama Iscariot causes.
Now, onto the actual issue at hand: Firstly, while there is no policy covering harassment it is my belief that the perma-ban vote is covered under the current vandal escalation policy. Once we have made the "best judgement" decision to make a ruling of vandalism we then move on to following the existing rules for dealing with vandals. Secondly, even if we assume that none of the existing policies apply I am still of the opinion that we should wait for a month ban before starting a permaban vote.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 23:52, 6 June 2009 (BST)
I very much dislike Iscariot and think the wiki would be better off without the drama he causes, however if we want to get rid of him we do it the right way, or not at all. -- Cheese 17:37, 3 June 2009 (BST)
The right way is to say this is fucking enough and ban him. --– Nubis NWO 16:48, 4 June 2009 (BST)
That only applies in general vandalism cases. Here we don't have policy to back up and dictate what we do. His harassment is vandalism over a long period of time, and being that we have no civility policy we must decide what to do on a case by case basis. Don't cite policy or processes when there is nothing citable (should also be a word). So technically, this is the right way, not the only way, because as I've said there is no policy for incivility or harassment, so we do what we have to.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:06, 3 June 2009 (BST)
Banning people we don't like? No thank you. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:43, 3 June 2009 (BST)
It's not banning people we don't like, it's banning disruptive users. Banning people we don't like is like getting rid of Izumi. She was also disruptive at first with Grim breathing down her neck, but she could easily have stayed on if Grim hadn't been a hardass. Now, we ban her simply because "we don't like her". Iscariot is a vandal, not in any policy defined way though.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 21:06, 3 June 2009 (BST)
He's a vandal in the his edits are not good faith way. Which is the core of vandalism. Don't say that his acts are anything close to good faith. --– Nubis NWO 16:48, 4 June 2009 (BST)
And here I was thinking we banned Izumi for the constant attempts to circumvent the original ban. What do I know eh? Judging from the case above Iscariot is a vandal, as defined by the policy. The policy has a permaban option after a months ban. Not a week. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:59, 3 June 2009 (BST)
And here I was thinking you'd look further than her vandal data. If you look past that and read up on the data, he first few edits were based upon sheer ignorance of our policies. She had no idea that she wasn't allowed to edit groups at first. And by then time someone explained it to her, it was after being warned in a completely unprofessional manner "If you don't care about editting the wiki, then don't. Since you obviously DO care about UD enough to be upset that your suburb got wrecked (AHAHAHA), I doubt that you will enjoy being banned. And if you do enjoy a nice 24hr (if only that), please come back and crow about it, as its entertaining to watch you scream at the top of your lungs how much you DON'T CARE LALALALA. --Karlsbad 04:19, 11 April 2007 (BST)".
Izumi wasn't just a vandal on her own merit, some of the community and the sysops team helped her become that way. Sometimes due process isn't needed to be followed, some times mistakes can be forgiven without banning someone for a month. Grim was just a black-white rules sort of guy. Same thing happened with Nalikill. He ended up getting banned by grim for "shitting up the admin cases" when it was really more of a case of Grim disliking Nali. And then he ended up getting banned by boxy for changing a user log out falsie. Good faith, but still technically against the rules. Yet, he wasn't liked by a few members of the Ops team, so he ended up getting a month, and then leaving because of the shit Grim kept pulling. Grim probably would have found a way to get Nali banned permanently eventually. Two users well disliked by members of the ops team, yet were still in pretty good faith over all. Nali was a pretty good editor, if not prone to some problems every once in a while. But to be fair, it's not all his fault.
Iscariot is an entirely different matter though. We have done nothing to give him reason to hate us and treat us and our community the way he does, yet we still let him go and do just about whatever he wants. He's a troll. He's harassive. He makews frequent edits in bad faith. Why should we make ten separate cases to try and convict him when we only need one? Due process has been thrown out the window when it comes to the punishment ladder, if the situation was bad enough. Why are we hiding behind policies that don't exist for this situation and letting him go? We are well within policy to make a decision over this, why are you guys being cowardly and letting it continue? Do you think the community will look at you guys with more esteem and respect if you don't ban him? What happens later when the issue comes up again? Are we just going to let him go again because he hasn't done anything explicitly wrong? Other than, you know, making hundreds of harassive (srsly, I'm adding this to my dictionary) bad faith edits. Which is what our vandalism policy is mostly about, even if it doesn't have something covering civility or harassment. When his shit keeps up, later we're just going to look back and wish we removed him earlier.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 02:54, 4 June 2009 (BST)
I particularly liked the bit where you said. "Why are we hiding behind policies that don't exist for this situation and letting him go? We are well within policy to make a decision over this, why are you guys being cowardly and letting it continue?" That made me chuckle. For the record I didn't ban Izumi, and neither did you. Grim Did it. If you don't agree with it, you're a sysop, raise that issue. In the meantime, if as you say "He makews frequent edits in bad faith." Do you really think its really going to be hard to find 2 more cases to put through vandal banning?--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 08:55, 4 June 2009 (BST)
Are you that dense? Have you ever noticed how even trolling edits count as edits? So if I went to your talk page and posted Ross is an asshole 250 times over the course of a month I would still earn my VD de-escalation. That's what his pattern is. Of course, even though he doesn't ask for a de-escalation his minions still raise the issue that he "deserved" one. Or did you not read any of the A?M case you couldn't be arsed to rule on when you were a sysop last time ? --– Nubis NWO 16:48, 4 June 2009 (BST)
Im not that dense. Because, bizzarrely I read the admins guidelines. Spamming my talk page in such a way could in no way be considered good-faith edits. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:41, 4 June 2009 (BST)
No shit? I mean the fact that we both weren't ops at the time never even crossed my mind. I never said that grim took care of the ban in my previous posts either. No, wait, I did. I also have tried to do something about Izumi's case. I even requested time to work with the user through the wiki where the only time she could comment was directly on my talk page and nothing else. You know what I got? "STFU we dun liek her", and then her subsequent banning. Would it have been hard to try and let me reform this user? No. And with our "assume good faith" policy, and "encourage vandals to reform" policy, letting a potential reformer in shouldn't be much of a problem right? Apparently it is. Would you support letting Izumi back in on the basis of good faith assumption? Especially if I was the one responsible for her actions?
Also, I chuckled back when you put my comments out of context. "The policy has a permaban option after a months ban. Not a week.". The policy you refer to is the standard vandalism policy, which in itself does not cover harassment. Bad faith edits, yes, but as people have argued before, paraphrase-quote Harshness is allowed because people should be allowed to express their viewpoints /para-quote. Which would mean that if I were to bring a case up on harassment, we'd have to judge it on a case by case basis, and distribute a punishment if decided based upon our thoughts. We don't have a Harassment policy saying that if we find someones behavior unacceptable that we follow the vandal ladder. If we did, then I'd be all for it. And you know what? At any time if I bring up cases about his bad faith harassment in the future, half of them will be shot down on the basis that "NOES, he did nots commits actual vanderlism!", and the other half shot down because I'm "being petty". And should they by some chance be considered vandalism, why is ruling on those cases any different? Due process? Precedent's been set to give a person a harsher punishment than is actual required due to the severity of their actions. Whatever guys. The community isn't going to hate you for something you're well within your rights to do.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 16:25, 4 June 2009 (BST)
I'm glad we're entertaining each other.:-) I must admit i'm curious about the whole "Sponsoring" of a formally banned user. Challenging Isc and being called petty? That in itself would be bizzarre. Want an escalation? By all means. I'd fully support a months ban. But I still think its not the right approach. Want a harrasment policy, go for it. Having a policy only applying to Developing Suggestions alone, would cut down on a lot and would apply to all. Of course if Isc was banned for a month he couldn't vote against it. Which would be sad. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:09, 4 June 2009 (BST)
As Cheese, General, Boxy, and to a lesser extent, Ross. Linkthewindow Talk 07:13, 4 June 2009 (BST)
Well, the voted haven't changed in days so I'll just confirm Nubis' ruling of Vandalism, and no change to the ban is necessary. As for the permaban vote, er... I guess however illegitimate some may have seen it as, I'll still rule no perma based on the above vote. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:19, 8 June 2009 (BST)
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Vandal alt of Foxtrot et al.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 00:50, 2 June 2009 (BST)
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Spambit removed. =) -- Cheese 11:02, 1 June 2009 (BST)
Damn, edit conflicted. Anyway, a quick skim of the checkuser logs shows that he isn't related to the ones below (the Omega guys,) and his method of attack is different (ads, instead of spam, so he's more of a adbot,) but we could always be looking at a proxy.
Now, where's Axdiao gone? Linkthewindow Talk 11:05, 1 June 2009 (BST)
He said he'd call back. He broke my heart. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 12:06, 1 June 2009 (BST)
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Amidst reports of partnering with Reliance Jio for VoLTE devices, domestic handset manufacturer Micromax on Wednesday launched its first online-only 4G smartphone "CanvasXpress4G" at Rs.6,599.
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Despite out-hitting Michigan State (9-3), 8-6, Georgia Tech (17-5) dropped a 3-2 decision to the Spartans in the opening game of the USF adidas Invitational on Thursday afternoon at the EC Moore Complex. Freshman Whitney Haller led Tech offensively, going 2-for-4, with a home run (10) and two runs batted in.
MSU snapped Tech's 11-game winning streak. Sophomore Aileen Morales finished 2-for-4, with one stolen base. Freshman Lacey Richardson (3-2) took the loss, throwing 3.1 innings, allowing three runs and two earned runs.
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The Yellow Jackets loaded the bases with one out in the top of the fourth inning on three singles by Haller, senior Amy Hosier and freshman Blair Shimandle, but failed to score. The Spartans responded in the bottom half with bases loaded and one out to force Richardson out of the circle. Sophomore Whitney Humphreys entered and MSU scored on the first pitch on a passed ball, and scored two more on fielder's choice plays to take a 3-0 lead.
Haller put Tech on the board in the top of the fifth inning with a two-run home run with two outs, her 10th of the season, to bring the Jackets within one, 3-2.
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South Florida game:
Sophomores Aileen Morales, Stephanie Butler and Kacey Ivey drove in a run for the Yellow Jackets. Ivey tied a single-game school record with three stolen bases.
Brown homered in the bottom of the first inning, a three-run blast and fourth of the season, to give the Yellow Jackets an early 3-0 lead.
USF tied the game in the top of the third inning on a two-run double off the bat of Tiffany Stewart and a RBI single by Christie Chapman.
The Bulls' Carly Griffin drove in the go ahead run for USF in the top of the fourth inning on a bloop single to center field as Tech trailed for the first time, 4-3.
The Jackets plated four runs in the bottom half of the fourth inning as Ivey and Butler drove in runs and Tech took advantage of two USF errors to put Tech in front 7-4.
USF's Samantha Ray drove in a run for the Bulls in the top of the sixth inning to cut Tech's lead down to two runs, 7-5.
The Bulls posted back-to-back singles to start the seventh inning, but Wood picked up a big strikeout for the first out of the inning. What looked like a double play ball for the Jackets up the middle, turned into an infield single on bad hop to load the bases. The Bulls plated a run on a ground out to third base to get within one with two outs and Wood induced a ground out to end the game.
Tech will face Long Island and Boston University tomorrow at 4 and 6 p.m. All games can be followed via live stats on www.ramblinwreck.com.
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I spent the day inside with smokers around me yesterday, my hair is dirty and full of smoke.
I'm gonna wash it today, but I was wondering, if I put oil, yogurt, honey, powders or anything like that before washing will it 'lock up' the smoke in my hair ?
You can mist it with distilled water, a squirt of conditioner in it, and some EOs (lavender is nice). This to "refresh" the hair. It is often done to revive waves/curls in the morning. Just lightly dampen, not get it totally saturated and wet!
That should take care of the smell perfectly fine. There is absolutely *no* need to wash it just because of that.
Don't over think it. Just wash it. Clarify and deep condition if you wish.
No need to stress, just wash it and you'll be fine.
Wash if you feel the need. But none of those things that you mentioned will cause your hair to continue to smell smoky after you wash.


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Uber's SEA competitor Grab raises $2B from SoftBank, Didi Chuxing
Anthony Tan
Southeast Asian cab-hailing service, Grab, has raised $2 billion led by Japanese conglomerate SoftBank and its Chinese taxi-hailing counterpart Didi Chuxing. The company is eyeing an additional $500 million from existing and new investors before the round gets over, which will bring the total investment of this investment round to $2.5 billion, claiming it to be the largest funding ever in the history of Southeast Asian tech companies. Grab states that it holds a market share of 95% in third-party cab hailing and 71% in private vehicle hailing in the region, offering services in 65 cities across Singapore, Malaysia, Myanmar, Indonesia Thailand, Vietnam and Philippines. With the funding the Uber competitor aims to strengthen its market lead and invest in GrabPay payments solution. "We are delighted to deepen our strategic partnership with DiDi and SoftBank. We're encouraged that these two visionary companies share our optimism for the future of Southeast Asia and its on-demand transportation and payments markets, and recognize that Grab is ideally positioned to capitalize on the massive market opportunities," said Anthony Tan, Group CEO and Co-founder, Grab. "With their support, Grab will achieve an unassailable market lead in ride sharing, and build on this to make GrabPay the payment solution of choice for Southeast Asia. We look forward to continuing to work with our valued partners in the future." The company also expects DiDi and SoftBank to support Grab's vision of helping consumers in Southeast Asia access safe transportation and financial products whilst creating employment opportunities. "Starting with transport, Grab is establishing a clear leadership in Southeast Asia's internet economy based on its market position, superior technology, and truly local insight," said Cheng Wei, Founder and CEO, DiDi Chuxing. "By deepening our strategic partnership, DiDi and Grab reaffirm our shared commitment to innovating localized solutions to global urban development challenges from the world's fastest growing marketplaces. Both companies look forward to working together with communities and policymakers across Asia to fully embrace the extraordinary opportunities in the upcoming transportation revolution." Last year after months of negotiations, the ride-hailing platform had raised $750 million led by SoftBank, bringing its cash position to about $1 billion and increased its valuation to $2.3 billion to $3 billion. Masayoshi Son, Chairman and CEO of SoftBank Group said, "Grab is using technology to address transportation and payments, some of the biggest challenges present in Southeast Asia, and we believe Grab is a tremendously exciting company in a dynamic and promising region. SoftBank is excited to deepen this partnership and we look forward to continuing to support Grab's journey."
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Alpacas and antibodies: How scientists hope to stop coronavirus in its tracks
May 26, 2020 by Horizon Magazine
Efforts to design a safe vaccine for Covid-19 are moving forward at full throttle, yet experts agree that it's likely to be a year, at least, before an immunisation is ready. Meanwhile, scientists around Europe are exploring ingenious ways – including with the help of alpacas – to use the latest techniques in molecular manipulation to repair coronavirus-induced lung damage or to block the virus before it wreaks havoc.
Researchers at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, are optimistic that at least one of the 124 vaccines in the pipeline will succeed. However, a vaccine needs to be delivered to everyone, and scaling to more than 7 billion doses is extremely challenging. So they have set their research sights on a more accessible goal: 'neutralising' antibodies that kill an infection after it has taken hold.
The project CoroNAb was established in mid-February when there were 1,000 known deaths from Covid-19 in the world. 'Containing the spread of the virus is not our primary objective – that ship has sailed,' said Dr Benjamin Murrell, assistant professor at the Department of Microbiology, Tumor and Cell Biology at the Karolinska Institute. 'Our aim is to find therapeutics to stop the progression of disease within a patient.'
These therapeutics will take the form of antibodies that are infused into a patient through a syringe. When someone is infected with the new SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, they typically mount an antibody response against it, and in most cases these antibodies contribute to clearing the virus. However, infection-fighting antibodies produced in a lab can also be introduced into the body, resulting in passive immunisation.
So what differentiates a vaccine from imported antibodies?
Vaccines are given to people when they are well, prompting them to develop their own antibodies, whereas antibody therapy is administered when an infection has taken hold and a patient is struggling to mount their own immune response.
Monoclonal antibodies (mAbs) – that is, antibodies that are identical clones of one another – have emerged over the past few decades as effective therapies for various medical conditions, including cancers and autoimmune disorders. Increasingly, they are also considered a major medical tool to fight severe viral infections – such as Covid-19 – though to date, only one mAb been approved for this purpose. Many more are in clinical trials, including one that Dr Murrell has been working on.
At what stage of an infection, exactly, a coronavirus patient would be treated with mAbs remains to be seen. 'This will need to be studied in animal models, or directly in human trials,' said Dr Murrell, who is coordinating the CoroNAb project together with partners in Denmark, Switzerland, and the UK.
'Maybe you can treat someone with monoclonal antibody therapy late in infection and still stop deterioration, but perhaps not,' he said.
The CoroNAb team at the Karolinska Institute is creating mAbs from animals. An animal is given a specific viral antigen (the molecules that interact with a body's antibodies) and an immune response is provoked, leading to some of the animal's immune cells producing antibodies. The cells harbouring these antibodies are then isolated and the genetic sequence of the antibody is cloned from each cell into a circular form of DNA that allows the antibodies to be produced in the lab.
'Since the potency of the antibodies discovered is at least partly down to chance, it makes sense for many groups to be going after the same goal.'
Dr Benjamin Murrell, Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden
The Stockholm team is focusing its research efforts on mice, rhesus macaques and alpacas. Alpacas are camelids (like camels and llamas) producing particularly interesting antibody fragments, known as 'single domain' antibodies, which allow for fast antibody discovery and large-scale antibody production, which is why they are favoured by the CoroNAb team.
One month into the project, these mammals have been injected with lab-created variants of the coronavirus's spike proteins, and preliminary indications suggest that all animal groups are responding well. Mining the alpaca antibody repertoire is currently underway. Over the next few weeks, the researchers will be testing the neutralising activity of the produced antibodies against SARS-CoV-2.
Dr Murrell said: 'The coming weeks are both critical and uncertain. Depending on these first results, we'll either get lucky, or we might have to take a few steps back and repeat.'
Despite all the unknowns, Dr Murrell is confident that neutralising antibodies will emerge from this research. 'We will make something work,' he said. The question is, will an effective antibody discovered by the CoroNAb team become a useful addition to Europe's arsenal of SARS-CoV-2 treatments? Labs around the world are chasing the same prize, working night and day to identify effective antibodies against Covid-19, with some early results already emerging.
To make a contribution in this climate, an antibody will need to have a strong edge over its competition. 'If one group's antibody turns out to be 10 times more potent than the next best, you might have to produce far less of it for an effective therapy, reducing the manufacturing burden,' explained Dr Murrell. He added, 'Since the potency of the antibodies discovered is at least partly down to chance, it makes sense for many groups to be going after the same goal.'
Professor Luis Serrano from the Centre for Genomic Regulation (CRG) in Spain leads another team engaged in the race against Covid-19. His lab is both supporting global vaccine efforts and probing novel, non-vaccine mechanisms to limit the death toll.
Until two months ago, Prof. Serrano was engaged in the MycoSynVac project, which investigated ways to enlist cellular hosts to transport vaccines around the body. Cellular hosts (known in the field of synthetic biology as chassis) hold great promise as low-cost, scalable and potentially game-changing systems for the targeted delivery of life-saving vaccines.
The chosen chassis in Serrano's five-year project was a modified form of the bacterium Mycoplasma pneumoniae, which causes respiratory infections. By the project's conclusion, the researchers were able to show that Mycoplasma makes an excellent universal chassis – meaning all manner of vaccines can safely hitch a ride off it.
Prof. Serrano is optimistic that a vaccine for Covid-19, when it arises, will be among the ingredients that can be safely delivered by his Mycoplasma chassis. The team is in the early stages of testing this hypothesis. Over the next month or so, they will insert synthetic copies of key coronavirus genes into bacterial cells, in the hope that those surface proteins belonging to the virus will trigger a protective immune response from the human body.
As it is engineered from a bacterium that targets the lungs, the chassis may be capable of even more than vaccine transportation, according to Prof. Serrano. 'We think it can deliver therapeutic molecules directly to receptors in the lungs,' he said.
These molecules would either counteract inflammation or stop the virus from binding to the alveoli (the cells through which oxygen flows from lungs to bloodstream) by blocking the viral cell receptors, he explains.
With the virus blocked or lung damage repaired, a patient who is not responding to conventional treatments might be spared the worst symptoms of a Covid-19 infection, such as a devastating cytokine storm, where the body mounts a massive, and potentially deadly, immune response – an overreaction triggered by pneumonia.
'The idea is to create a spray to deliver our engineered bacteria directly to the lungs, where it will express locally what is needed – the active molecules – and later it will be washed away naturally,' explained Prof. Serrano.
He added: 'There are clear advantages to this direct approach. If you apply a drug systemically (affecting the whole body), it might be beneficial where it's needed but it might also have dangerous effects on other tissue.'
Price is another major benefit to recruiting bacteria to deliver life-saving medications. Producing therapeutic molecules synthetically is expensive. For a fraction of the cost, a host cell can be cloned to produce vast populations of cells containing the same therapeutic molecules.
In the labs of their spin-off company Pulmobiotics, Prof. Serrano's team is exposing coronavirus proteins to molecules with known anti-inflammatory qualities, to test the molecules' effectiveness against the virus. They are also engineering mutations of these molecules, hoping to increase the affinity between molecule and human receptor proteins. Data from these experiments is expected by mid-summer.
Prof Serrano is hopeful that his research will yield positive results, however these may not come in time to save lives during the current outbreak. 'By the time we get (regulatory) approval, the Covid situation may have been resolved,' he said. 'But this research will open the way for future therapies during future pandemics.'
The research in this article was funded by the EU. If you liked this article, please consider sharing it on social media.
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At my old apartment, this #adulting obstacle course used to involve a wider radius, as there wasn't a drugstore within walking distance. I'd have to hop on the subway to loop everything in. But now… Now! There is a CVS—wait for it—two blocks from my apartment. The level of happy this makes me is what I imagine you feel when your kid gets into college without your having to bribe a crew coach.
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I got this book simply of the fact i am addicted to Andy McNabs work and i want to read all this books!
Kevin Dodds works in a bank where he is bossed around by his boss, go goes homes and leads a dull and boring life. He craves adventure and excitement but all his friends see him as the Grey man with no excitement! One day when his boss wont let him have the day off to celebrate his wedding anniversary everything changes! Sick of been pushed around Kev goes for his most daring move yet..... he is going to rob the bank! Putting his plan in motion based on all the action movies he's watch Kev is ready! will he succeed or walk back home the grey man?
This was a fun little short story, not McNabs best work but nice for little read! I loved the little bits of the story of what his routine was, how his wife made him listen to fashion things. I liked the fact that he stood up for himself in the end! And he finally got his excitement!


Lord Northfield—Made the Solemn Affirmation.
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Lord Whitty): My Lords, yes, they were. The Bill was prepared over the summer and had been drafted prior to my Statement of 22nd October. As I said then, the Bill provides enabling powers for the compulsory genotyping of sheep so as to accelerate the development of a national flock resistant to scrapie. It also contains powers to deal with the slaughter and orderly disposal of sheep in the event that BSE were found to be present in the national flock, and provisions relating to the control of foot and mouth disease.
Baroness Seccombe: My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. Can he assure the House that the Government have full confidence in the ability of the three special inquiry teams to produce meaningful reports? If he can, what is the hurry? Why must the Bill be rushed through in advance of their findings? If not, is he afraid that the reports will not endorse the Bill's main provisions?
Lord Whitty: No, my Lords, the Bill's provisions are broadly in two parts. The provisions relating to TSE and BSE arise from the Phillips inquiry report, which recommended that we have a contingency plan in case BSE were found in sheep. The contingency plan was produced at the end of September, and the Bill would provide the means by which the plan could be carried out.
On foot and mouth disease, the present need for the Bill is not to pre-empt the inquiries, which may well lead to other measures, but in case the disease reappears and to overcome some inhibitions in dealing with the disease under existing controls. Should the inquiries require further measures, we will deal with the matter then.
animal health in this country. Does the Minister agree that the failure to include regulations providing for constant rigorous inspection of imported meat renders the whole Bill worthless? The Bill should deal with both sides of the problem. I beg your Lordships' pardon; I remind the House of my family farming interests.
What has happened to the short audit report that the Minister promised us on 22nd October, which he said would be with us in "a week or so"? It is now a month later and we do not have the report.
Lord Whitty: My Lords, on the second question, the audit has been drafted. It is now being checked with the Institute for Animal Health, which should have the opportunity to comment on it before it is published in final form. That is now happening, so the report will be available shortly—I accept that it has taken somewhat longer than I had hoped for at the time of the debate. Both audits will be available shortly.
I apologise to the noble Baroness, but what was her first question?
Baroness Byford: My Lords, let me help the Minister. My first question concerned the importation of other meat that is not covered by the Bill.
Lord Whitty: Indeed, my Lords. The issue of import checks is important, and we are currently considering it interdepartmentally. However, it is important to stress that import checks will never be 100 per cent effective, so the prime concern for disease control must be to control its spread. As I have said before, disease occasionally enters even Australia, which has draconian import checks and controls. The point is that it is rapidly stamped out; that is the main control.
At present, our view is that any changes in import control regulations could be made by secondary legislation, and so would not need to be included in the Bill.
Baroness Masham of Ilton: My Lords, will the Minister give us an assurance that rare breeds of sheep will be protected? Does he agree that there is a problem with the scrapie situation and immunity in some rare breeds of sheep?
Lord Whitty: My Lords, clearly such issues will have to be discussed with the sheep industry in general and pedigree farmers in particular. It appears that every breed, including most of the pedigree breeds, contains scrapie-resistant strains, but that must be established. It may be that progress in that regard may be slower in some pedigree breeds than in the general flock. All such issues must be addressed in developing the scrapie plan in co-operation with farmers.
consider amending the Bill at that stage, if that appears necessary as a result of the inquiries? If not, surely the case for a public inquiry is strengthened.
Lord Whitty: My Lords, I do not expect the inquiries to complete their work by then. Both inquiries will take about six months, so their reports will not be available until the middle of next year. I suspect that, were we to go for a full, quasi-judicial public inquiry, it would take much longer. The foot and mouth-related measures in the Bill relate to any further outbreak that might occur early next year. As I have said, if the inquiries require further measures, we will take them.
Earl Ferrers: My Lords, can the noble Lord explain how scientists, who are, after all, supposed to be knowledgeable about these matters, can be engaged on work not knowing whether it is the brains of cows or sheep upon which they are working? Is that not a monumental bog?
Lord Whitty: My Lords, I can say, without necessarily endorsing the noble Earl's vocabulary, that clearly a serious error was made at some point. The purpose of the two audits, to which I and the noble Baroness, Lady Byford, referred, is to find out how that mistake was made.
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen: My Lords, can my noble friend tell the House how much money has been spent on research on BSE and related diseases up to now?
Lord Whitty: My Lords, the research in this area by all publicly funded bodies probably totals about £100 million. About £17 million of this year's expenditure is funded by DEFRA, £3 million is funded by the FSA and further money is spent by the research council and other public bodies. A couple of weeks ago my noble friend Lord Hunt referred to 140 projects involved in this area, many of which, inevitably, are long term. The failure of the particular research project to which reference has been made has to be seen in that wider context.
Whether they will call a referendum on the abolition of the monarchy.
The Lord Chancellor (Lord Irvine of Lairg): No, my Lords.
shown decreasing support for an hereditary monarchy? Does he accept that most people now believe that an elected head of state is more relevant to the 21st century?
Lord Dormand of Easington: My Lords, I am glad of all the support that I am receiving. In view of those and other factors is it not necessary in a democracy such as ours to ascertain the views of the electorate on such a fundamental issue?
The Lord Chancellor: My Lords, the Government believe that the national interest and desire is for the country to remain a constitutional monarchy in its present form. The Sovereign personifies national cohesion, Commonwealth unity and political stability. We believe that support for the monarchy in the United Kingdom is rock solid. In surveys over the past 30 years it has been consistently above 70 per cent, while support for a republic has varied between a mere 15 and 20 per cent. The noble Lord mentioned opinion polls. The Queen's approval rating in opinion polls is a very substantial distance beyond that to which politicians and other groups might reasonably aspire.
Lord Strathclyde: My Lords, the noble and learned Lord's totally unambiguous Answer is widely welcomed throughout the House and by this party in particular. But what does the noble and learned Lord think the general public will make of a senior Back-Bencher and former chairman of the parliamentary Labour Party asking a Question such as this?


KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Hundreds of people came out to Westport on Sunday afternoon for a Pokemon Go Pub Crawl. The event raised money for Big Brothers Big Sisters of Greater Kansas City.
"We are going Pokemon Go hunting so you should look the part, dress the part, and have fun with it," said Taneshia Pearl.
Pearl said her best advice for people is to stay hydrated and to keep extra phone chargers so you can play longer.
Carrington Harrison with 610 Sports Radio came up with the idea for the pub crawl. He said it would be a fun way to raise money for a good cause that is close to his heart.
The group raised more than $2,000 for Big Brothers Big Sisters of Greater Kansas City.


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4BR Scouting Report - August 2007
4BR has been out and about assessing the brightest and the best young brass players around to find out who are likely to be the superstar players of the future.
To start off we have three of the best in Wales.
Name: Graham Bushell
Instrument: Soprano cornet
Current Band: Beaumaris
Previous Bands: None
Wales has a proud history of producing quality soprano cornet players in its time, and this young man has the undoubted talent to extend that line.
Brought up in the excellent Beaumaris band organisation from the age of 10, he has been nurtured under the expert eye of Gwyn Evans. Recently he has also benefited from lessons with Brendan Ball of the Liverpool Philharmonic and hopes to go to Manchester University in the next year to study music. He also plays trumpet and cornet.
A member of the senior Beaumaris Band for the last two years on soprano he is also as an integral part of the cornet section of the National Youth Brass Band of Wales. Bags of potential, he is one of the most exciting young players in the Principality.
4BR has heard him in action in the past couple of years and have been suitably impressed each time. He has got that all important fearless approach to soprano playing that is essential to succeed, but also shows that he has got his head screwed on right with an intelligent approach to ensemble playing.
As soprano players tend to mature as players well into their late 20s and early 30s he has plenty of time on his side. Not the biggest blower, but that at present is a good thing. That aspect of his playing should be allowed to develop naturally whilst his well centred sound and natural musicality should also be developed sympathetically too.
Technically there is still work to do and stamina will come, but there seems so much potential that it was be a pity if he was pushed too hard too soon. We think the big bands in the North West and Yorkshire will be knocking on his door soon enough.
Sound: 7/10
Technique: 7/10
Stamina: 8/10
Musicality: 7/10
Potential: 8/10
Name: David James
Occupation: Student at Royal Welsh College of Music and Drama
Instrument: Cornet/flugel
Current Band: Burry Port
Previous Bands: Glyneath; Penclawdd
Now entering his last year at the Royal Welsh College, David James has all the essential ingredients to become an exceptional top class player.
He comes from a very musical family (his grandfather was the highly respected conductor Eric James and dad, Alyn is a fine tenor horn player) and that is evident to hear in his remarkably cultured playing for such a young man.
Started playing with his local Glyneath Band, he moved to the Penclawdd Band and came under the expert eye of Tony Small. His excellent teaching has provided the solid foundation to his playing ever since. Now principal cornet of the top section Burry Port Band he has also been principal flugel horn of the National Youth Band of Wales for the past six years.
Currently undertaking his B. Mus at Cardiff he is taught by Chris Turner, who has instilled a great deal of confidence into his playing. His future looks like being teaching as a peripatetic, so hopefully he won't be lost to the brass band scene in the Principality.
A highly impressive performer on the contest and concert stage he doesn't lack confidence and has just that right degree of bravura cockiness that is the hallmark of real top class cornet players. It's the sense of style to his playing that really does mark him out at present though, although he does have to continue to work on the upper register and with his technique in the years to come.
A fine, full bodied cornet sound with a controlled vibrato (which is echoed on flugel) he has a strong lip which perhaps could be saved more at times. He works remarkably hard on each piece.
Not the finished product just yet, but there won't be a band in Wales and beyond who wouldn't want to have him on the end chair when he finishes college.
Name: Matthew Jenkins
Instrument: Euphonium
Current Band: Cory
Previous Bands: Goodwick
Matthew Jenkins first made an impression on 4BR a couple of years ago when he was selected to represent Wales as part of the European Youth Brass Band. For a player coming from a 4th Section Band in Wales he shone amongst the cream of Europe's best young brass players, and since that time he has continued to progress with remarkable alacrity.
He is now under the expert eye of David Childs at the RWCMD undertaking the Performance Degree Course and has the added bonus of also playing next to him with the Cory Band. He has also been a member of the National Youth Brass Band of Wales for the past five years.
He started out on cornet but took up the euphonium aged 13 – a match that seems to be working out perfectly. Taught by Hilary Lewis and John Jones in his early years he has also benefited from lessons with Geraint John Evans. With that solid foundation to work from David Childs has started to really explore his undoubted potential.
Possesses a lovely rounded euphonium sound and has a nicely turned sense of musicality about his playing. He has that all important sense of confidence too – although it's not a misplaced cockiness. Playing next to his teacher shows him just what can be achieved, but also just how far to go he has to become the fully developed player.
The potential is there for everyone to hear but he still has work to do on all aspects of his playing. He is in a hot house environment with Cory, so he will know just what is expected of him and the work needed to achieve his ambitions. A player with a huge future ahead of him, he has the potential to achieve whatever he wants if he continues to put the work in.
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