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Anonymous 07/12/19(Fri)14:17:55 No.67224152
Are there any tabletop gaming communities not rife with SJWs? This place is more pozzed than /co/.
>>67224152
Circle of your friends who enjoy a game.
Fpbp
Maybe try starting a group chat with your real life friends?
>Shadowrun
>Starfinder
>GURPS
>>>/pol/
Nerds/geeks are natural vectors for poz. If you are an adult and your main social outlet is still MtG or comics or D&D, then your best shot at increasing your status is to agitate for the inversion of healthy social norms. If you can't become cool or beautiful, just play the victim until everybody pretends that being a fat disgusting tranny with no self control is actually brave and beautiful.
What even is an SJW? I've never seen a specific definition for one, only general sperging about them.
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Summer truly is hell.
Virtue-signalling whiny cunt who insists racism and sexism still exist because, despite equal protection under the law, women and minorities don't always manage to perform at the level of the men of the ethnicity that conquered the world. They're also big believers in everything being a social construct.
Try some discords. Many of them have no self-inhibitions and very little censorship. Even less than here, on the lewd discords.
>https://discord.gg/VNU4Tn
>What even is an SJW?
Someone who makes fun of you on 4chan.
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>ethnicity that conquered the world
You mean Jews?
Found the actual /pol/ack.
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Oh man this is great, now do the one about facts not caring about feelings
That's one way of putting it. I consider them as "people" who take a "progressive" or "leftist" mindset into something "regressive". They act like a religious fundementalist, making intersectionalism their religion.
To them, you're either a moralistic upstanding citizen like them or you're a problematic sinner who must burn in bigot hell. While a number claim to be secular, many are also 'pagan' larpers. It's not enough to bend over backwards, preaching their dogmatic gospel. Making one mistake that counteracts that ideology will result in banishment and/or shunning... or worse.
TL;DR: They're basically the new Satanic Panic, but Regressive Left instead of Regressive Right.
Unfortunately, yeah. Plus, a lot of companies are centralized in pozzed city zones full of gentrified young hipster scum.
Don't be hard on him, he's mad that him and his degenerate filthworm chums feel inferior to the Juice and must lament over their lowly and sad state.
>Starfinder not rice with SJWs
In what universe
Based and red-pilled
Everything hurts.
Um... sweetie....
Heya, cunt
TheRPGSite. The Pundit is a screechy cunt, but the community is otherwise alright.
Make one
Unfortunately, /tg/ is rife with grown ups, so yeah, shit's pozzed
I guess Call of Cthulhu community? Unless I am not up to date. There is also Dark Eye, probably WH40k and good old VtM 20th edition that have been neatly filtered out at this point. SJWs play V5, normal people play V20 and all is good in the world.
True /pol/acks realize that Jews are the master race.
Fuck off back to tumblr, we're not going to let you use X-cards at the table.
>leftists
>grown-ups
They literally want the government to take care of them and when exposed to speech they don't like they burst into tears and retreat to a safe room full of play-doh and pictures of pop stars and puppies.
Anything Lovecraft is poison to the SJW. Lovecraft is a renowned racist.
Games don't care about your feelings.
>murder is against the law, thus, people never get murdered
You need to watch some more Jordan Peterson. Your facts and logic need a little work.
Play OSR and avoid any D&D more recent than second like the plague.
>it's illegal to self-segregate
And this is why people there's a problem
I don't get how those things are related. Care to explain?
>Play OSR
that's trading one group of obnoxious whiny assholes for another.
Pretty sure they're comparing saying laws saying that women and minorities are supposed to have equal protection under the law means that sexism and racism are totally 100% stopped forever, to having laws against murder stopping all murders
Fuck tumblr, degenerate. Stop showing self-hatred through projection.
>They literally want the government to take care of them
as apposed to wanting the government to oppress and segregate people you don't like from you?
That's really watering down Lovecraft though. It's bad enough that Liberals try to just bring him down to that, but there's no point in people doing that here. The dude was so much more than that.
>you're either a moralistic upstanding citizen like them or you're a problematic sinner who must burn in bigot hell.
As opposed to a darkie or tranny or raghead who must burn in non-white hell?
I'm not particularly bothered by either side, as long as the politics are kept out of the game, but I thought that's what most radical folks did, exclude people based on some reason or another.
The cunts of the OSR are far preferable to regressive swine any day!
I appreciate Lovecraft, especially once his worldview got shattered after living in New York for a good while and he had a meltdown due to his preconceived idea that multiracial cities can't function got destroyed.
That was for dramatic effect, for comparison. But yeah, every extreme faction-cuck will do the same thing. You are either molded into their single-minded view or you're an enemy.
No. It's too late, we're all xir here.
Nice fiction, whatever helps you cope
A lot of that was from his ex-wife though. Hell, he wasn't entirely comfortable with Innsmouth, because it reminded him of his older views. If he didn't die so young, he probably would have become more moderate.
>preconceived idea that multiracial cities can't function
He wasn't completely wrong. I've heard Berlin and Paris are doing great these days.
In our Universe!
Being an (((Anti-statist))) I bet you're also a (((capitalist)))
The definition is "anyone I don't agree with."
>There are laws against rape, so rape LITERALLY CAN'T EVER HAPPEN
Fascists don't have friends. They have their friend simulator.
The one who shouts the loudest they don't exist and it's all just /tg/ being paranoid.
It's like the wolf that doesn't want the sheep to know it's there.
The Jew card doesn't work outside of /pol/. Capitalism is inherently better than Communism.
Nice strawman, but the left supports segregation, not the right. Which side is always talking about "black spaces" or "queer spaces"? The right is about equal treatment, the left is about "yo but I want more because of stuff people did to my great-granddaddy." The left is one of those old Puritan groups that gets really into original sin and blood guilt, but stripped of all the religious trappings.
Difference is that during the satanic panic, the religious people concerned about the hobbies we enjoy, didn't try to invade our spaces and force them to change. Some made their own alternative products and others just tried to convince people to stay away. The extreme minority tried to get it banned.
In this modern reversion of the satanic panic, you see neo-religious people invading and enforcing changes to the hobby AND the community. While simultaneously working (effectively) to get alternatives banned via social media manipulation of payment processors and web hosts.
This is honestly closer to the Salem witch trials in that its a religious movement which is proving very effective at changing the existing culture and removing undesirables.
It's fucking crazy as shit to see it coming from the other side, after growing up under right wing political correctness. I find it very ironic that I miss the radical evangelicals of that era, when compared to the insanity we see today.
The people who want to actually lynch blacks instead of refusing to pamper them and punishing them for crimes they commit have a name. National SOCIALISTS. That said, Muslims are an actual ideological enemy and need to be forcibly removed. Why feed and clothe a people who want you dead and your kids raped?
Nah, that's a nazi
>I'm surrounded by SJWs everywhere except my /pol/ safe spaces
Have you considered the possibility that the problem may be you?
Why are you evil signalling?
>didn't try to invade our spaces and force them to change.
Yeah, they just spread a bunch of propaganda that said "Your kids are going to sell their souls to Satan and then commit suicide if they play that evil D&D game! There are Satanic rituals and spells hidden in the rulebooks!"
That's not fair. They also respond to speech they don't like by flying into autistic rages and retreating to a safe room full of Nazi propaganda.
>evil signalling
Is this a thing now? Is this the point we're at?
>literally wants to ban free speech
>talks about how others respond to free speech
Nice glass house you're living in, Comrade.
A good thread died for this fucking shitty /pol/ thread
lichess
Fact: dog whistles like that retarded triple parenthesis garbage or unironically using the term SJW is actual, factual virtue signaling.
Change my mind.
>Which side is always talking about "black spaces" or "queer spaces"?
Almost always /pol/ tards trying to demonize the other side.
>Another "How would x fare in 40k?" thread died for this
>They're also big believers in everything being a social construct.
Everything is a social construct. The only unsimulated reality is the reality that exists before language. As soon as you enter the world of language and labels, you are dealing with a social construct. An idea about reality, and not reality itself.
Their problem is that they parrot the words, but do not understand what they mean.
>To them, you're either a moralistic upstanding citizen like them or you're a problematic sinner who must burn in bigot hell.
I call them Church Ladies, after the Dana Carvey character on SNL, but most of them are too young to get the reference.
The reality is that being a self-righteous asshat who busies themselves with judging others from atop their moral hobby horse is as old as time. As Western culture abandons Christianity in favor of Humanism, we are not abandoning being an obnoxious busybody. And that's wha SJWs are, they're just New Model Church Ladies.
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>Unironically believing that the right doesn't support the suppression of free speech and other rights when it benefits them.
Someone not giving you a platform so you can behave like an idiot for an audience isn't a civil rights issue, idiot. If you have a problem with people kicking hate speech off of their websites, then you actually have a problem with the free market.
House prices are rising and both cities are gentrefying. Crime is falling every decade.
I much rather have actually /tg/ related content on this board than thinly veiled /pol/shit.
>Literally calls for the immediate censure of anyone who criticizes the glorious "dude on a stick" religion
>the right
Alt right maybe.
But not everyone right of Mao is a fascist.
4chan is a cautionary tale that roleplaying extreme stereotypes attracts real extreme steereotypes to hang out and feel at home. Retards of every flavor and political agenda.
>OP
>friends, plural
But it doesn't. That's the free exchange of ideas at work.
Literally trying to ban people you disagree with from speaking when you remove the emotional context and puerile "I think these people are idiots" non-logic. If a platform edits and censors content, it should then be treated as a publisher where it can be legally liable for knowingly pushing false information and giving in-kind contributions to politicians in the form of shilling. The free market isn't involved when it's in an industry the government has already stuck its dick into. Or are you talking about colleges, which receive hefty infusions of taxpayer money to preach Marxism? Oh, and finally, hate speech isn't real and the Supreme Court confirmed that. It's a fiction, it's Newspeak.
Pretty much everyone claiming to be right on 4chan is, though.
Also, people keep forgetting that Detroit was a prosperous city where a person could maintain a living wage from high school graduation to retirement from a factory job until it stopped being a multiracial city.
>Waaaaaaah, why can't I rant into the voice chat about the evils of brown people, queers, and women while I'm playing Overwatch?!
You might be European, but the American left is big fans of the censorship you guys do and hate the First Amendment almost as much as the Second. There's a reason you never see right-wingers disrupting and trying to shut speakers down, even speakers openly calling for the destruction of America.
Ignoring your blatant strawman, why can't I? Mute functions exist, I don't need to be nannied by some faggot megacorp.
Yea, because the right hasn't been involved in numerous incidents relating to wanting news reporters to stop saying bad things about them.
Even if they're true.
You take the jobs away and all of a sudden shit hits the fan...
Nobody does that because it's settled First Amendment territory. You have artists literally displaying a crucified Christ in a jar of pee and Satanists putting up a public statue of Satan intended for people to be able to sit on his lap, and nobody cares, because we actually read the Constitution. Meanwhile you tear down memorials to war dead and demand we let all of Mexico into the country. The fantasy Christians you have in your head are not the real Christians that exist outside your apartment, and that's unfortunate, because real Christians love cucking to refugees and abandoning each other for virtue signalling purposes.
Again, it's not a civil rights issue. Getting your shitty post deleted off of someone's website isn't the federal government stopping you from speaking. It's the people in charge a website making the totally legal decision about what kind of content they want on the site that they own, a decision that, by capitalistic logic, is fundamentally financially motivated. Kind of fucked up just how much of public discourse is determined by the whims of large corporations motivated by market forces, isn't it?
Thanks to policies Kamala Harris wants to bring back.
I can feel how hard it was for you not to type the word 'chud' in that sentence. 42% chance you still live in your parents' house, huh.
>There's a reason you never see right-wingers disrupting and trying to shut speakers down
That happens all the time, though. Maybe get your shit from sources other than /pol/ and Fox News in the future.
Satan statues are protested regularly...
https://www-lifesitenews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.lifesitenews.com/mobile/news/christians-protest-giant-statue-of-satan-at-arkansas-capitol-building2?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQA#aoh=15629603910314&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=Van%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lifesitenews.com%2Fnews%2Fchristians-protest-giant-statue-of-satan-at-arkansas-capitol-building2
Not pointing guns at your citizens > pointing guns at your citizens.
>The right is about equal treatment
The whole reason the right exists is to maintain and perpetuate inequality, you fascist doofus. Equality is the antithesis of the right wing position.
Seriously, they have you fuckheads so brainwashed it's staggering. Do you even know the origins of the term right wing? It originally refer to the pro-monarchist faction in the French parliament, who sat on the right side of the aisle.
Does monarchy, where one man is king over all, sound egalitarian to you, you dumb fuck? No? Because that's what the right has always been and will always be: the political movement to ensure those in power stay in power, and to protect the wealthy elites.
If you think right wing politicis is about ANYTHING other than protecting the rich and powerful from anything that might threaten their wealth and power, then you're a fucking idiot. And, not coincidentally, a braindead tool of the autocrats, a fucking puppet with some rich fuck's hand up your dumb ass.
Fucking hell, right wingers who don't understand that they are fucking authoritarians piss me right off. You aren't fucking anarchists, you stupid redneck fucks. YOU'RE TOOLS.
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>t. manlet who tries to physically attack people for waving American flags.
Calling the press what it is does not stop them from exercising their First Amendment rights in the least. It just squelches their attempts to be the only source of information. Or has there been some rash of right-wing death squads burning down CNN vans I'm not aware of? The only people attacking reporters are antifa, a LEFT WING group.
Because the company is a private entity that's allowed to control what is and isn't said on it's private platform?
>Nobody does that because it's settled First Amendment territory
Right. That's why you get "OH LAWD, THE LIBTARDS ARE WAGING WAR ON CHRISTMAS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE SAY 'HAPPY HOLIDAYS' INSTEAD OF MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!" every goddamn year.
>Meanwhile you tear down memorials to war dead
Memorials erected not to celebrate the dead, but specifically to thumb their noses at civil rights movements.
Often erected far after the war was over.
1 million times this.
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>two dozen Christians
I'm disappointed America, we'd have more protesters in Sweden than this.
>there hasn't be a years-long active disinformation campaign devoted to discrediting journalists and occluding the very notion of what constitutes a fact, all carried out by Trump and his supporters
I'm glad we've clarified that you're at best retarded, and at worst irretrievably insane.
We understand if you never went to college, but that doesn't mean colleges aren't real.
I think you're misrepresenting common usage there. Like pretending someone using the term queer nowadays must have really meant "unusual".
Wait, if your argument is the left is using colleges to force their ideas, then wouldn't the fact that I'm one of the people you're arguing against mean I'm more likely to have been to college?
I had to get these ideas somewhere, after all.
I mean if i have to deal with terrorists, left wing "terrorists" just break shit and beat people up and right wing terrorists massacre schools and churches, so if i have to take one i will take antifa thanks.
My favorite example is that time that like 600 Christians showed up to protest a Satanist conference that had like 40 people attending.....and they all started going after EACH OTHER because they were all different denominations getting pissed off at minor differences in biblical interpretation.
>Often erected far after the war was over.
Most war monuments are.
The implication is that you haven't been to a college campus before, because those things are talked about constantly there. I'm sorry, I shouldn't have expected you to have high-school level reading comprehension.
They're not telling lies or spreading misinformation, they're just delivering "alternate facts."
Or maybe I have, and I choose to disagree with you because I believe you're incorrect?
Really, not everyone, or really, most anyone, who disagrees with you must be an idiot.
Maybe the problem lies somewhere else.
Oh like that Vietnam war memorial that will be erected in 2075.
And you don't see any potential problem with an unelected mega Corp controlling discourse like that? What if a really far right one pops up? Do they get to shut out your views?
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>Projecting European ideals onto American politics
>Then utilizing American ideals to attack European politics
Who says only the left can be smug and condescending.
Oh, I see tons of problems with that sort of thing.
And the root of those problems lies within Capitalism, which people continue to defend.
Nigga its not the Left who elects these politicians that give these corporations all this power.
Mostly the right to continue to enforce their victim complex.
Honestly as much as I hate Paris you're pretty spot on.
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Journalists discredited themselves
And not a thing said actually challenged the posters argument.
Of course there is. But that doesn't make it a free speech issue. Realize that the real villains are capitalists and aim your vitriol in the right direction.
You want to know who regularly pushes for legislation that gives corporations more power?
Here's a hint: It's not the left
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>Nigga its not the Left who elects these politicians that give these corporations all this power.
Come on /tg/, you're actually making /pol/ look intelligent and articulate, this is bad.
It kinda is. The more you vote for regulations the more you allow megacorps to crush the smaller ones.
Yes, without regulations the people with money would never resort to using money to just outright crush the competition. It never happened before, ever.
I mean, you didn't disagree with me in the first place, you asked me if I was arguing something that I never actually said and drew your conclusion that I was inconsistent from something that I never actually said. You never actually showed yourself to have understood the clear implication of my words. I don't think that anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot but you sure fucking are.
No, the problem isn't the regulations, it's letting the corps have a say in what those regulations do.
The people with money are mostly using that money to fund politicians who want to overregulate their competition and kill smaller businesses. So, yeah, they are and you're too dim to see that you're complicit in it.
According to you who was the last left-wing American president?
The current president is left-wing
Which is why we want to tax and regulate the the mega corps more you shmuck.
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You people are falling too easily, or do you just want to rant about nothing on a mongolian puppet show forum with strangers?
Gee fucking howdy I sure do love discussing tabletop games!
This isn't actual discourse, this is just people enjoying themselves.
I don't consider any political discussion that doesn't occur face to face to have any merit.
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The megacorps can always avoid taxes and regulations. All you are going to do is crush their smaller competitors.
>Which is why we want to regulate the the mega corps more you shmuck.
Why are the far-left wing of the democratic party currently fighting against all Republican attempts to regulate the Gang of Four then?
The fuck he is, Cheeto Man isn't on the left
/thread right there
RaHoWa. Just the title keeps lefties at bay and it has the mechanics and correct morals to sustain engaging campaigns.
They can afford regulations, you faggot
He's a 70's left-leaning centrist
Close tax loopholes and start fining them for employing illegal immigrants, two birds one stone.
I think that you have a very untrue view of the left, because if they are far left they are probably calling for the abolishment of capitalism as a system.
>believing the right and left wings actually exist
>thinking only one side is full of shit instead of both pushing for a common purpose.
>not realizing how much corporate money and influence goes into politics as a whole both so called left and right.
>Not realizing the whole world needs a fucking purging at this point
Its all going to hell, can't fucking wait for it desu.
>doesnt want corporations or companies to be able to practice their free speech by controlling content aka speech on their platform
>is ok with trump wanting to block people on twitter (the irony) and basically ban anyone who doesn't slavishly suck his cock
Real big thinks
>Close tax loopholes and start fining them for employing illegal immigrants, two birds one stone.
Yeah that's never going to happen with the current systems in place, left or right they will keep adding loopholes for their buttbuddies who have too much money and not enough intelligence.
Didn't a guy yesterday try to fight journalists at trumps safe space in the harden and didn't a governor or something attack a journalist asking him questions? That sure sounds like shutting things down.
SJWs are fun because they're sheep, as long as you're a wolf it's a fucking buffet of easily impressionable dweebs placidly following your every whim. It's frighteningly easy to utterly abuse the power structures they've built and the huge number of people getting caught abusing their positions confirm that.
SJWs can't hurt you if you're stronger than them.
From what I can gather from what people are pissed with is that the blocking isn't a problem, it is the mega corp banning people for criticizing shit and calling out shit that the company agrees with. An individual blocking someone is the real life equivalent of telling someone to fuck off and fucking off to ignore them, banning someone is more like slapping tape on their mouths because you don't want them to speak.
Liar liar pants on fire. Trump daily calls for violence against the media and journalists, MAGA yards have attempted to bomb and have attacked journalists on multiple occasions. And I mean actual journalists, antifa has fought with tight wing e celebs who show up at their protests hoping to get attacked so they can cry on camera while simultaneously decrying the left as pussies
This, but unironically.
>religious right didn't try to invade spaces and force them to change
I'm gonna be real with you chief, this revisionism to make SJWs seem worse or more unique in their behavior is laughable at best and distressingly pathetic at worst.
Except it's not like that at all. Aren't you retards calling that it's not illegal to self segregate?
>twitter self segregates
NO NOT LIKE THAT!
And once again the 1st only applies to the government so it applies to trump and not twitter. Besides hypocrites like yourself want to kill or ban journalists, fucking KYS all American right wingers are terrible hypocrites
Which is why we need actually populist candidates, im talking lower class or (more realistically) middle class candidates that will actually fight for what the people want, no more of these geriatric narcissists and establishment libs.
We need real leftism here.
That's what he's saying. That they tried to persuade people not to play, instead of "infiltrating" To try and alter consensus.
His real life friends are too pozzed, he is OP after all
>middle class candidates that will actually fight for what the people want,
>real leftism
Anon, leftism is killing the middle class, not the other way around
I love how this thread went from baiting and taking the piss to actual retards whining over the other side, it's a great read.
No leftism is "we kill the upper class and rich then divide their ill gotten gains among us and give everyone a middle class living.
Except it seems like it is from what I can see and gather, I myself am getting worried over corps getting big and powerful enough to control free speech and in all honestly all I want is freedom as any other sane human would, I of could have missed something so do you have anything to prove me wrong in my accounts?
>We need real leftism here
We need sanity, strong leaders and of course purging of current politicians, leftism doesn't exist, I don't think it ever has in all honestly the right and left dynamic was probably kept around to try and keep the public divided on issues that don't matter, what we should be doing instead if we of course still can and the corruption isn't fetal is vote for politicians who have both the people and countries interests at heart, less taxation, less laws that fuck over the freedoms of individuals, laws to help small and medium businesses flourish to help take monopoly away from mega corps and to help bring jobs to people, make an new immigration system based for efficiency, affordable healthcare, and affordable education, don't vote for someone just because they are left or right, vote for someone who has all of our best interests at heart. Oh and get fucking rid of lobbying, that shit is cancer.
Protip: it has been tried a lot and always failed
>This place is more pozzed than /co/.
That's a damn lie and you know it.
Assuming this isn't just a bait thread though, I'm part of 2 groups that have a 'no politics at the table' rule and 1 based group with close friends. Ironically enough, there are more racially charged jokes and shit at the former tables than in the latter, make of that what you will. If you want my honest advice, try going to church and finding some people around your age who are into video games or maybe even film. I've never met a gamer who isn't willing to jump to tabletop, but be prepared to DM the rest of your life.
Except not all upper class/rich are horrible people, some did put the work in to get that rich, plus killing someone just because of what they have in their bank account and not because of their crimes sounds pretty fucking evil to me desu.
Yeah because that's how it works. That totally doesn't end with an even greater divide between rich and poor as the people you trust to delegate and distribute resources hoard it all for themselves, make it illegal to criticize them, and gulag dissenters.
Good thing this particular strategy hasn't been tried before a bunch of times with identical results. This is totally unexplored territory!
>don't you realize this term is 300 years old and therefore those politics in a foreign country back before the Cotton Gin was even a thing must somehow be identical to the beliefs of today
>god it pisses me off that right wingers don't know their ideals are governed by this entirely unrelated piece of trivial pursuit nonsense that I happen to know
Well, if it isn't the most autistic post of the year, it's at least the most autistic post of the thread.
This, we need something different and that works, communism has been tried many times and failed each time resulting in death and horrific systems, and yes communists do argue that wasn't real communism/socialism, and that it hasn't been tried before, but it has and it always has the same problem every time, humans. Humanity is full of greedy assholes who are out for themselves, and there are a lot of them too, it could be argued it is pretty much pushed into us through evolution. Any system we make ends up going to shit because of this fact, capitalism only works for a while with major issues is because of our natural greed. I mean if we built shit like replicators from star trek that pretty much gave us infinite resources then maybe we might be able to get rid of the greed, but that's a big fat if.
>It originally refer to the pro-monarchist faction in the French parliament, who sat on the right side of the aisle
Actually the girondins weren't monarchists but heh, we can't expect a leftist to say the truth.
Virtue signalling was already that point. You know what non-fascists call virtue signaling? Understanding morality and basic ethics.
Yeah, that's why the ultra-conservative right-wingers have basically declared him Jesus 2.0.
They tried to get the game banned. That's higher tier aggression than a gay guy maybe being in a game adjacent to yours.
This might be the dumbest post I have ever seen. Jesus Christ, save us please, we need your grace right fucking now.
Still censorship.
Except all the laws allowing them to do that come from the right wing.
And not illegal, which is the point, you fucking moron. Next you'll tell us we sensor you when we tell you to fuck off with your brainworms.
Reminder that freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. You go scream "KILL THE NIGGERS!" at a black cultural event, they're well within their rights to kick your ass out and perma-ban you.
>Hundred plus posts
>No one's minds are changed
>No opinions are swayed
>Shit did not get done
How far /tg/ has fallen. This was the thread that created an entire setting off a fetish thread. The same board that educated countless anons how horse anuses contributed to engineering soap distribution. This is not /tg/. This is a crime.
>Or has there been some rash of right-wing death squads burning down CNN vans I'm not aware of? The only people attacking reporters are antifa, a LEFT WING group.
Actually, right wing violence has always been higher than left wing, and has spiked recently. Right wing groups have attacked journalists, sent homemade bombs to establishments they don't like, and carried out mass shootings - all in the last two years. Furthermore, you have guys like the Proud Boys breaking people's backs for... no discernable reason.
The left milkshakes and maybe punches the occasional cancerous e-celeb. The right tries to bomb shit, drives cars into crowds, and commits mass shootings.
Uh, most of them came from the Clinton presidency. Are you actually an American?
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Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Are SJWs Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Just Play A Game Haha
This is your best bet, and yes we're infested with Redditor and SJWs. The hobby in general is lost. All you hear is "just don't play with people you don't like xDdd play older editions exDdddD"
It's all newspeak for "fuck off and let us take your hobby from you"
>complain about SJWs
>"fascist!"
Do you see why people complain about you?
Case in point: >>67226696
Welcome to the modern era where identity matters more then ideals, its all fucked up desu.
slurr for progressive intersectionalist
intersectionalism is the necessary cause, people referring to people who haven't been inducted into that thinking are wrong
Remember that as you start seeing more people getting sued for Listen and Believe bullshit
t. Melodramatic faggot
If you were half as intelligent as your pompous attitude projects you'd already know the goal of debate is not to win over your opponent, but the audience
Speak for yourself faggot, the hobby isn't lost to me. I'm still playing AD&D2e, Cyberpunk 2020, and WEG Star Wars with the same group of friends almost 30 years later. Stop pretending you're anything but a bandwagoning Roll20 Discord newfag.
>Why doesn't the tabletop community in general tolerate my particular incel brand of autism?
Fix'd
Fuck this is accurate. I'm so glad someone else has said it. These people are utter slime. They'll knife you in the back, brag about it, and when you turn to confront them claim there is no knife
I don't allow trannyshit in my games and I don't play gay casual b8 like 5e, so I'm doing just fine, thanks.
That would require friends. He's obviously just a shitty person.
>incel
I don't get why you people think you can fit in and change board culture. You practically screech at the top of your lungs "I don't belong here but I want to change this place to suit me!"
>They'll knife you in the back, brag about it, and when you turn to confront them claim there is no knife
Greg? is that you? please come back.
Great. Meanwhile as you're in your bubble the hobby as a whole has been flooded and the people designing the current game and all future editions are going around saying "genderfluidity is real life magic" and "complex rule sets are sexist"
Be smug all you want, but all you've done is abandon the hobby.
At a certain point it becomes the public square, it's one of the few times nationalization of an industry is justified.
See, once again you have a problem with people expressing their opinions, while I have a problem with you legislating yours into law and having a mob try to hit me with a bike lock if I don't like it.
Most memorials are built after a war, and the only citation on that claim is modern civil rights leaders wanting something to whine about. Why are you trying to desecrate monuments to a good chunk of the country's ancestors?
Considering the rampant two-way street between the deep state and the media and the fact that CNN, the supposed moderates, literally passed debate questions to one candidate...nah, they discredited themselves.
Cite your sources, I don't recall any right-wing mass shootings. I remember some very ineffective "bombs" left on sidewalks by some loon crazy enough to be a plant. I also don't remember anyone attacking journalists or shooting up any churches. Also the Proud Boys are just a counter-antifa group, and they get disarmed before they go in to areas where antifa still has weapons.
He calls them fake news and the enemy of the people, which they are. He has never once called for violence against them, as much as they deserve it. Got any sources on anyone right-wing slugging a journalist?
Have sex, incel.
It also had none of the funding the left-wing subversion effort had behind it. No glitzy podcasts, no developers kowtowing...
Yes, because Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a true enlightened woman of the people. Real leftism has never been tried!
I'v3 had this happen ~3 times with people I'd previously would have considered friends. It's always fucking leftists acting like this. It's fucking crazy.
We've had leftist groups do the same thing to events where only a few dozen right wingers show up.
>abandon the hobby
Nah, pretty sure my hobby is still bringing me plenty of joy, thanks.
>N-n-no you're the incel! I have made so much sex! You don't even know!
Neck yourself.
>Everything is a social construct. The only unsimulated reality is the reality that exists before language. As soon as you enter the world of language and labels, you are dealing with a social construct. An idea about reality, and not reality itself.
>Their problem is that they parrot the words, but do not understand what they mean.
Exactly, language being a social construct shows you that social construct =/= arbitrary. You are welcome to make random noises but unless there is a correlation with reality you won't get really far to establish your concept.
It's a good thing that the hobby is at a dead end then. Younger generations can't into tabletop because video games, the type of games they've played since childhood, are objectively easier to get into and more immediately fun to play. Tabletop games aren't going to last, newer editions can't change that.
I think I'll make a meme about people like you
We've got a pretty good one now and leftists still protest its existence and would deface it if it didn't result in them being shot by Capitol Police.
It actually is the left that squashes small businesses that could compete with their corporate pets, which function as, essentially, nationalized industry under the sway of the party. Stalin would have loved it.
>blame Capitalists!
Every time, regular as clockwork. How many nations need to burn and starve before you realize the depravity of your beliefs?
>Younger generations can't into tabletop because video games, the type of games they've played since childhood, are objectively easier to get into and more immediately fun to play. Tabletop games aren't going to last, newer editions can't change that.
5e is probably the most successful and profitable edition in D&D history, and the majority of new players are under 30. They're also largely far left because the biggest D&D podcast is run by Commiefornians
Yes, because industries with a direct government hand in them have such a good record of not becoming monopolies that enforce the party line.
Nobody abandoned the hobby, the world just abandoned you. The fact that this shit is happening in everything is proof of that. You're not going to make any pushback in this or any other hobby specifically, so unless you can learn to ignore it the the only way you're going to take the world back and uninfect it is by force. So stop bitching about games and go shoot some trannies you pussy.
This is Shadowrun yo.
don't work too hard you candyass roodypoo
So sexism exists in the same way as muder exists? As a highly shunned fringe phenomena that affects a tiny, tiny portion of the population. Ok, I'd agree with that.
If you abolish Capitalism do you think Google and Facebook go away, or do they become special government partners that continue to operate internationally?
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Letting someone censor speech is not the same as allowing them to speak. This should be blatantly self-obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.
Democrats and the oldschool GoP Establishment who like illegal labor as a counter to the unions together have enough of a majority to stop it, yes.
>2012 oldfag
S-sorry sir, I-I I had no idea!
That was a bit of sarcasm for you there. Did you enjoy it?
The governor in question 1-v-1'd the journalist and bodyslammed him for being a smug, disingenuous fuck. That's different from siccing a mob on someone, and he apologized and turned himself in to the police over it.
This is the platonic ideal of a poster who needs to gb2reddit.
The only reason 5e is any popular is because of nostalgiafagging, and reclaiming itself from the shambles of 4e. The majority of under-30 players are in the 25-29 range, where video games are a secondary form of entertainment supplemented by toys and cartoons, and board games. Tabletop games are a dying hobby and that's a good thing.
Nope. Sexism against men is covered by the law with a preference for hiring female employees giving same qualifications.
Which law are you citing here? Honestly curious.
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Sure, do you want me to mongle your cock now or later you big gay nigger?
You're just objectively wrong on all fronts
Shit like Critical Role made D&D "cool" to far left kids. It's fuck all to do with nostalgia or people who didn't grow up with video games.
This post is barely coherent, but if twitter chooses to act as a publisher then it has to be held to those standards. If it chooses to act as a public square then it has to be held to those standards too. It can't just pick and choose.
>want to kill or ban journalists
Killing journalists would be a crime. The question is, is it morally justifiable to kill people who want to drive your people extinct and destroy your country for the sake of their own agenda? They're not there yet, but if the American press continues down this path, there's a certain moral event horizon after which they become enemy combatants and I can't see anyone feeling too guilty over hanging them from an old oak tree.
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>Memorials erected not to celebrate the dead, but specifically to thumb their noses at civil rights movements.
If that were true, then my small town's memorials would be dedicated to the Confederate cavalry and not the infantry regiments that were raised in it.
I've got to be real here, the only solution I've got is to relentlessly pirate games. Never ever pay.
If you physically try to stop someone from speaking they are within their rights to shoot you.
Then they can say they're just catering to their fan base when they take a hefty rainbow sprinkled shit and call it 6th edition
They're retarded and fail to recognize that he's more of the same old shit with a shine. /pol/ hates Trump these days, and he's only popular because he promised (and failed to deliver) that he'd reduce the illegal immigrant population in the US.
>the world abandoned you
Melodramatic rhetoric aside, that's not true. The general people I see playing games haven't changed, and neither have their opinions. The leftist "takeover" is entirely top-down. Devs, moderators on gaming sites, the people who make the rules for gaming communities, the people in charge of cons, etc.
>5e is probably the most successful and profitable edition in D&D history
5e isn't anywhere near as successful or profitable as B/X or AD&D 1e.
You're just sad your shit hobby is dying and being replaced by the chad video game.
I don't know about "better" or "worse," but certainly different. How many middle-aged pastors did you see who snuck into D&D games, played for a while pretending to enjoy themselves, then suddenly tried to change every single aspect of the game (including the concept of roleplaying at all because that's a form of lying)? I personally prefer an enemy who is at least open about being an enemy than one who pretends to be a friend.
Dilate until you join the 40% in a few years.
Actually, it isn't. Making demands of what kind of content a person or group should be allowed to host on their property and claiming that they're not allowed to host only the content that they want to absolutely is, though.
Because you are one customer offending other customers with your inane racist drivel. You are ruining the experiences of many other paying customers as one person so the logical choice is to cut losses and throw you out
There are a lot.
/pol/ was a mistake
I wouldn't feel too guilty hanging journalists now. Like big tech, they're essentially another government wing attached entirely to the mummified remains of the DNC.
And yet your camp defends the violent censure of any criticizing muslims and their "pedophiliac sand bandit" religion
>he's still falling for the deep state meme
They'll justify it regardless. Either they're "expanding their demographic" or "catering to dedicated core fans".
Cite three then.
I dont like leftists
People that won't date OP
>The question is, is it morally justifiable to kill people who want to drive your people extinct and destroy your country for the sake of their own agenda?
There are people out there who actually believe this. Like, unironically. Let that sink in.
i dont like /pol/
>you are one customer offending other customers
They have the tools to mute you. It's not griefing or exploiting so once you're muted their gameplay will no longer be impacted in any way. Minor aside, but Overwatch is a terrible example for your argument as well since even communicating strictly through in-game voice lines and emotes can still see you banned.
>The general people I see playing games haven't changed, and neither have their opinions
Exactly, which is why I continue to not give a shit and just play a fucking game.
>There are people out there who actually believe this. Like, unironically.
Yup, they're called antifa which is why they believe domestic terrorism is justifiable.
Anthem GOTY am I right?
Trump is popular with blue-collar and working class Americans who've benefited from his presidency. This is a lot of 4chan, surprisingly. Trump is unpopular with GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW IF IT'S DARK HANG IT IN THE PARK NUKE ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST TOO PLEASE ABOLISH MY RIGHTS DADDY AND GIVE US A DICTATOR types after it became apparent he's not Hitler reborn. The people who like Trump don't really have a home board, they were sort of migrants on /pol/ even when they were there during the election because he's pro-Israel and has Jewish relatives.
You do see a few middle-aged pastors who snuck into D&D games and played dickass Rogues. Like mine. The thing about the Satanic Panic is it just didn't bear out, and a lot of the Christians who investigated it ended up going "so in practice you have kids playing the role of righteous heroes who kill goblins, demons, and dragons and learning how to act the part." You don't have SJWs playing it and going "hmm yes now I see how nationalism isn't evil".
I really doubt any antifa believe journalists want to drive their people extinct in the future.
Do leftists actually think black people are fixable or is a meme?
Man, you ever notice how the leftists who want to argue politics all sort of enter the thread in a cluster, almost as if coordinated, respond with strangely familiar talking points, and then all leave at the same time? Weird, huh?
What does a shitty video game have to do with tabletop games being a dead hobby that is nigh-exclusively played by people who are at least two-generations old at this point?
Trump is a dumb Israeli puppet but my retirement savings have been doing well under him and that is literally all I care about. I literally do not give a shit about anything else. Nothing.
I dont understand how any actual adult cares about anything else
If you want to editorialize, you are no longer a private citizen, you are a publisher and subject to the regulations of a publisher. You do not get to advertise as a platform, make money off it, and then act as a publisher.
>the deep state
>a meme
Even the CIA and FBI don't pretend anymore.
The issue there is false advertising.
This image sums up perfectly the difference between left and right.
an, you ever notice how the /pol/tards who want to argue politics all sort of enter the thread in a cluster, almost as if coordinated, respond with strangely familiar talking points, and then all leave at the same time? Weird, huh?
>white people are going extinct (and that's a good thing!) articles
>NO BORDER NO WALL NO USA AT ALL!
Hmm, why ever would Anon believe that?
Honestly, I dont even know why lefties are like this. They spent the better part of the 70s and 80s rightfully complaining about unelected government bureaucrats from alphabet agencies abusing their power in the US and abroad but now it's a conspiracy theory?
Any state with quotas counts, I'm pretty sure none of them require a certain number of women on the board of directors. Generally speaking, any anti-descrimination law mandating a certain number of women in a business would apply here, and those are everywhere.
an, you ever notice how the SJWtards who want to argue politics all sort of enter the thread in a cluster, almost as if coordinated, respond with strangely familiar talking points, and then all leave at the same time? Weird, huh?
Black people were more intelligent, stronger, faster, and more technologically advanced than any race until the white man colonized them and flooded their communities with drugs
Again, please cite a specific law.
>anybody who disagrees with me is a leftist
I hate trannies and stormniggers equally
>inb4 "fence-sitter"
I'm firmly on the largest side, which is that of ordinary folk who find you all uncouth
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I wonder why they believe that?
i'm not anon but i could think of examples where states have mandated diversity officers although it seems to be for race not gender.
I'm kinda confused. What kind of media are you reading? Because I don't think anyone but random buzzfeed-tier articles call for the extinction of white people, and I have never heard anyone but political fringe groups call for the abolishment fo the USA entirely.
What kind of media are you consuming where these are prevalent opinions, to such a degree that they appear representative of journalists in general?
You hit the nail on the head, actually. All of the fighting is between NEETs and college students. Adults should care about things like the economy doing well, the market being up, and us not being in a war with anyone.
Well, please cite them already. As long as we are only talking about these vague "there are cases" cases, we don't really have a talking point.
All the media in the cities I spend most of my time in due to work. Portland and Austin
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hear hear
They literally believe proud boys and non-leftist journalists want to kill all trannies or something
Which is why Africa is a shining beacon of modernity, right? I mean we gunnel literal billions into those countries annually, I'm sure they're doing amazing things with it.
Wh*te people were neanderthals who shuffled out of their caves, saw mighty Wakanda, and hurled bags of crack rock over the walls until Black Civilization was destroyed, then stole the knowledge of shipbuilding and enslaved the True Humans.
All the media in Portland and Austin call for the abolishment of the USA? Care to post some articles?
And yet no one is promised or entitled to a platform. It doesn't matter how much you cry about it, deplatforming is just a platform's owner asserting their right to enforce their terms of service, which includes the right to terminate a given user account for any reason, and not a free speech violation. That is an undeniable fact, and facts don't care about your feelings.
Are all of the Kill Whitey signs false flags too?
Who ever actually uttered a statement like this?
Don't trust authoritarians of either stripe. Get a gun, smoke weed if you like, and practice Free Speech.
Any left leaning media calls for the abolishment of civilization inherently.
What kill whitey signs?
So you oppose net neutrality then? Why should the owners of the cable that provides you internet not be in control f how you use it?
The real Africa is hidden from view by the white media. They don't want the negro community to know their true power and the government lives in terror that they might one day rise up and take the stars for themselves
CNN, MSNBC, NBC, Vice, Vox...
How so? And we were not talking about implied or inherent intentions, but about direct statements made in published articles. Why can't you just post the meriad of articles that demand that the USA is desolved and white people are eradicated?
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>As long as we are only talking about these vague "there are cases" cases, we don't really have a talking point.
and now we do.
If you advertise yourself as a platform and then are not a platform, that's false advertising. Also, deplatforming includes a lot more than some e-celeb being banned from twitter (although as I said, there's false advertising at play there). If you try to deplatform speakers at a college, that's not "the platform's owner" doing it, it's the effective managers of a significant taxpayer investment betraying their given rolls. If you try to deplatform a speaker by intimidating their family or assaulting them, that's also a crime, harassment, assault, battery, whatever.
A quick google search of those didn't really lead to any articles calling for white extinction or abolishment of the USA. Can you post some articles?
>And yet no one is promised or entitled to a platform.
This is literally what you are promised when you sign up to these services. You and the company then have a contract, which does NOT include a clause saying that if they don't like your politics, they can terminate you. It's been examined and the companies can't even point at rules that are broken, because if they made their actual rules reflect the ideology they govern by their user base would be a fraction of the size and they'd go out of business.
Many on the left, probably some in this very thread, I'm not gonna scour it for you because I'm high and my black girlfriend is coming over. Some nazi I am.
There are terms and conditions you agree to when you sign up for those platforms. You can be banned for violating those terms and conditions you agreed to. This is what you wanted, capitalist
Did you even read what he posted.
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>meriad
>just gonna feign ignorance and demand you do all the searching for me so you can't respond to other posts
This shit doesn't work outside of debate club, cunt. Anyone who doesn't know what the left's agenda is, on either side, isn't informed enough to be part of the discussion.
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Okay, what is the talking point? That Vermont has been looking for "an experienced leader in the field of racial equity"? Maybe I'm overreading it, but I don't really see anything about this being discriminative to anyone - and then again, it's a job application, not a law about job applications.
Reread my post, little lefty. This was the very thing I addressed. As a Capitalist I am a very big fan of contracts being followed, and the rules being written plainly, as this enables and enhances free and fair trade.
Haha you got btfo and are trying to move the goal posts.
>i'm not anon but i could think of examples where states have mandated diversity officers although it seems to be for race not gender. >>67227635
>Cite your sources
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston_church_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2018_United_States_mail_bombing_attempts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_mosque_fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poway_synagogue_shooting
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/magazine/FBI-charlottesville-white-nationalism-far-right.html
https://theconversation.com/white-nationalist-groups-are-really-street-gangs-and-law-enforcement-needs-to-treat-them-that-way-107691
But hey, I guess this is all just fake news, right?
>feign ignorance
I'm literally not. I know what you are generally talking about, but I have never actually seen any actual evidence for it, and upon searching for it I didn't find any. There have been very simple statements made in this thread ("journalists want whites to go extinct, and they want for the USA to be dissolved"), and upon asking for actual evidence none was given. Stop being such a weasel, m8.
Yeah, but what does that have to do with the original debate then? We were talking about women and minority quotas, and I don't really see that job application being relevant here. I'm not trying to move goal posts, I'm asking what the goal posts are here. What's the point of posting that image?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_serial_bombings
where some conservacuck got so mad at brown people he started mailing them bombs.
To prove the there are state mandated diversity officers although for race not gender.
Well, alright. What follows from that information though? Please elaborate a bit.
All of those were false flags conducted by the deep state
That there is discrimination based on your phenotype to meet a quota which is the most retarded form of discrimination imo. Especially when it is part of governance.
Congratulations on conceding the argument.
As usual, the faggot SJW can only scream "No you!" even when that makes literally no sense.
Charlottesville was some dumb kid being driven by antifa wielding guns into a crowd where a fat woman died of a heart attack. Also, nobody's gonna believe wikipedia or the New York Times has an unbiased view of who these people were. Yeah, actual fake news from left wing sources.
That's a bit of a jump there, m8. You're completely assuming here what it is a state mandated diversity officer does. I personally don't know. I'm not saying your statement here is wrong. I'd just like some more elaboration on the connection between this and your previous posts.
Because access to the web is a utility, given that internet access is basically fundamental to human life now (and also given that the web as a whole is more or less an anarcho-communist institution in the first place, which is only becoming more true in spite of attempts to the contrary). You're missing the point. This is the current problem of Google in general, but especially YouTube. It's too big. Too many people depend upon it. Its ubiquity is too open to abuse and that abuse has been happening for years. I don't think big tech should be capable of wielding something as immense as one of the monolithic institutions through which people receive information. I don't think Google or Facebook or any other company should have such an immense power of social discourse that they essentially shape what the conversation is even allowed to be. But for people to recognize what is wrong with that, they have to talk about it in a way that makes sense. YouTube demonotizing or deplatforming content creators isn't a free speech infringement because it's Google's right as YouTube's owner to decide what is or is not "advertiser-friendly" content to host on their site. That is simply fact.
generally not a whole bunch eighty years later
Let's just have a war and get this over with.
Nice projection, but like I said, it doesn't work anymore.
I think the way YouTube demonotizes and deplatforms content creators is really fucked up because there is a clear bias in play and they are only willing to enforce their rules when doing so doesn't cut into their bottom line. I think it's wrong that capital and those who monopolize it are allowed to dictate the shape of public discourse. What is absolutely bullshit is people pointing at leftists or PC culture as trying to limit people's free speech because that isn't what's happening and every person who believes that it is is having their eyes torn away from the real problem, which is that when capital determines the pace and shape of public discourse, capital is what determines what is or is not socially acceptable as truth. Should people really be comfortable letting their blithe ignorance hand that much power to any single entity, much less a nonhuman one?
Why's he wearing high heals?
>That's a bit of a jump there, m8.
I disagree. Why? Because i believe in freedom of association. The state should not be mandating diversity and instead allow people to associate freely.
>You're completely assuming here what it is a state mandated diversity officer does
No it is in the job description - read overview >>67227770
What projection? All I'm asking for is some articles, because I didn't find any.
No, as a capitalist you are fond of making money, and hate spending money. Capitalism as an ideology promotes profit motive, but does not promote any ethical standard by which that profit is derived. If you lose less money paying off people to ignore you breaking the rules than by following them, then you already know which one is the right choice. Free and fair trade is not the goal of a capitalistic system; monopoly is.
>Charlottesville was some dumb kid being driven by antifa wielding guns into a crowd where a fat woman died of a heart attack.
Nigga there's videos of the car hitting people. It wasn't a heart attack and you know it. And antifa didn't drive him to do shit, he was just a stupid right wing faggot.
>Yeah, actual fake news
This assertion is basically conceding defeat.
How is access to the public square not a utility? Especially when competitors are being crippled by payment processors like Stripe and Master Card if they refuse to censor people
>Nigga there's videos of the car hitting people. It wasn't a heart attack and you know it. And antifa didn't drive him to do shit, he was just a stupid right wing faggot.
I agree and it is why WN is never going to work. It lacks additional qualifying factors to keep the dregs out.
There's videos of antifa beating the shit out of his car well before he hit the gas, yes. And if you want to debate the autopsy report, go ahead
He isn't? nigga gets your eyes checked.
He Ali Akbard the Antifa at a time when muslims where driving trucks into crowds in Europe.
>No it is in the job description - read overview
Well, what they do is "to identify systemic racism" and "implement programs that promote racial justice reform and create a culture of inclusiveness". So far that is pretty vague. Atleast it doesn't sound like it is trying to implement quotas, it seems more like it is looking for any discriminative aspects of the system with the goal to diminish them.
Again, I don't know what it is a diversity officer is actually doing, but from that text it doesn't seem like the very existence of the job is discriminating against anyone.
Define racial equity, systemic racisim, racial justice reform and create a culture of inclusiveness in relation to freedom of association. because those do not match up with the latter.
This, but I know I'd shame my parents by accidentally continuing the Jewish line instead of race-mixing like we've done for generations.
>There's videos of antifa beating the shit out of his car well before he hit the gas
Can you demonstrate this?
>And if you want to debate the autopsy report
Her report does not say she simply died of a heart attack.
https://medium.com/@brandonjosephinzinna/debunking-the-conspiracy-theories-surrounding-heather-heyers-death-on-the-one-year-anniversary-of-b93c251889b3
Cope harder.
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Start using your brain and stop whining about the SJW boogeyman.
That hasn't been the argument against it, though. You could argue that opposing free expression, even when legal, is anti-American, but considering the left is already openly anti-American the right avoids it. The issue is false advertising, rules as posted not being the same as rules as enforced, people who've adhered to ToS being punished unfairly, and breaches of contract. Also monopoly status. Remember that the number one monopoly buster and environmentalist was a Republican.
But it is blatantly leftists and PC culture trying to limit people's speech. They themselves say so, using the argument that "hate speech" is actually violence and thus can be acted against.
>Define racial equity, systemic racisim, racial justice reform and create a culture of inclusiveness in relation to freedom of association.
Well, I'll give it a try, but keep in mind that those aren't my words. It's just what I've got to work with here.
>racial equity
People have the same rights, responsibilities, benefits and opportunities, regardless of their race.
>systemic racism
A situation directly resulting from or indirectly emerging from a (political, societal, etc.) system, that benefits people differently depending on their race.
>racial justice reform
I don't know. I suppose a political process with the intention to achieve racial equality and abolish systemic racism?
>a culture of inclusiveness
In this context, an environment that does not discourages people from, for example, applying for specific positions, based on their race, ethnicity, sex, religion, etc, and rather encourages people from a wide spectrum of these categories to apply for said positions.
This is not the same as making quotas for what applications are to be approved/rejected, it is instead trying to widen the pool of applications.
Atleast that's how I understood these terms. How do you? Because I don't agree with your statement:
>because those do not match up with the latter.
Don't tell me how I feel about things, faggot. Especially not when you clearly know nothing about Capitalism. The ideal of the Free Market and establishing a monopoly through manipulating an overbearing government are different, as you'd know if you'd ever read a book without pictures.
>basically
There's your problem.
>medium
Are you just incapable of finding credible news sources?
Wait, because he doesn't like screechy faggots?
Nah, because he is reductive for the sake of being right.
>SJWs are made up! It's nothing!
>meanwhile dozens of youtubers have made a living from nothing more than pointing out when SJWs fuck up a franchise, industry, or community
This thread sure is about tabletop gaming.
>Youtubers have made a living from nothing more than acting like retarded faggots whining about a boogeyman
Fixed that for you
>There's your problem.
I don't think your inability to present real arguments or sources is my problem.
>Are you just incapable of finding credible news sources?
Anon, it breaks down the entire situation with citations and videos. It is a completely comprehensive look at the situation that beats the fuck out of your position.
But hey, I guess anything but InfoWars is fake news, huh?
Doesn't pushing for those things require you to buy in on the mythology that there is this magical invisible system that makes a poor white kid more powerful than a rich black kid? Also, how do you encourage that? The only way is to lower standards.
There are also youtubers making a living by smashing eggs on things.
And yet, every single one of those youtubers can and has been completely discredited by actual facts. You're being conned, you idiot.
That's a meaningless sentence and I challenge you to prove otherwise.
>Completely discredited by actual facts
>"""Actual facts """
It's Medium. What's next, a Vox editorial? You can't just drop that turd on the floor and call it chocolate.
>Are there any tabletop gaming communities not rife with SJWs?
Fatal one.
Good luck having fun with them
Oh boy, here comes the gaslighting.
/tg/ stuff was taken over on a corporate level because we're nerds and thus, easily bullied. Dyed hair tumblrinas are worse bullies than any 80's villain.
The socjus crap is just an assimilation plot for those that develop Stockholm syndrome. They masquerade as another group that's "different" and feign interest in a hobby only to incrementally push their bullshit to the forefront. Like a limpwristed Borg.
Because they're already in the mainstream (whether they admit it or not), their antics are viewed less severely than others despite being just as destructive.
Not an argument
I don't know. The job application said to look for systemic racism. Maybe there is some there. Maybe there isn't. I guess it's the mandate's job to find out, but if they are actively looking for someone to do that job, that seems like a hint atleast that there might be.
>Also, how do you encourage that?
I don't know. That's why they were looking for someone who is knowledgable about this stuff.
>The only way is to lower standards.
Let's take this example: the directorate of some company only has members who are into freeform jazz. Them liking freeform jazz has nothing to do with why they are sitting at that table, but they all like it. This can potentially create an atmosphere that is discouraging people who dislike freeform jazz from applying for positions in that directorate, because the matter of facts could make them think: "If I don't like freeform jazz, I will probably not get the job anyway." Someone putting up a poster saying "You can apply for these jobs even if you dislike freeform jazz." does not lower the standards for the board, it's just widening the pool of potential applicants.
You see where I'm going with this?
Now, I don't know how the state of affairs in Vermont is. I don't know if there is systemic racism, I don't know if they have an inclusive atmosphere - and I don't know wether that atmosphere is caused by laws, hearsay, societal behaviour or just mental gymnastics. I'm just saying, having a position that is checking for systemic racism or works on making the atmosphere more "inclusive" is not inherently discriminative against anyone. It's just a job that there seems to be a need for.
>/tg/ stuff was taken over on a corporate level
No, it's either a cynical ploy to generate positive media (virtue signalling) and/or it's content creators promoted to important positions that genuinely believe it. Not an external force.
WOTC's big potential D&D growth market is the Critical Role watcher. It is in their interest to appear "woke". However it is nearly always only the prominant mainstream expressions of a hobby that are affected. To dodge all the virtue signalling and new players, explore the hobby deeper than the entry level. This holds true for all /tg/ properties.
former tankie
every single one it's a fucking religion
>actual facts
>breadtube
bitch are you forreal?
harris couldn't fucking review a souls game
Lindsey was a fucking NC knockoff for gods sake.
contra is more interested doing fucking drag shows in zers 30 min videos most of the time.
shaun is a disingenuously little shit.
destiny is a /v/irgin
hasan is a piker
who else some fucking commie wastoid whose big brain will bring the peaceful revolution that no fucking state has managed with their best minds.
breadtube is skeptics 2.0.
all flash, no substance. with the same atheist OWNAGE culture of the old days
they're all fucking brainlets
Three Arrows is pretty good, from what I have seen from him. (Which is only one video, but still.)
Sorry anon i went outside and did some brush cutting.
When you are Instituting programs to create racial diversity because people freely choose to associate with their own identity group instead of another then those programs are in my opinion discriminating against one group in favor of another.
>It's Medium. What's next, a Vox editorial? You can't just drop that turd on the floor and call it chocolate.
Anon, to be quite honest, where it's from is irrelevant. It goes into massive detail regarding the killing and provides solid evidence of its claims. You are, beyond doubt, in the wrong here.
It is a matter of public record that the Charleston car attack resulted in death by blunt trauma. I'm sorry if that fact triggers you, but you're going to have to deal with it.
>Where?
Which stupid conspiracy theory would you like debunked first? Shall we start with how gamergate was literally all lies?
But how are these programs discriminating? Let's take my example of broadening the pool of applicants. Who is discrminated in this scenario?
(We should, of course, keep in mind that none of use have really brought forward any hard facts about what it is that racial equity officer is specifically doing, and that we are just speculating here.)
i have not, but he seems to be the same atheist replytuber model from what i have seen.
it tends breed poor argumentation and smug idiots, thank you atheismtuber
though for all i know he could be the diamond in the rough
>they're all fucking brainlets
lel, people getting upset at Shaun and Contra for being constantly correct is always hilarious.
They've consistently destroyed every single right wing youtuber and media outlet. You may not like it but it's true. Insipid attacks on their character won't change the fact that every time one of these guys puts something out, it's invariably far better researched and more coherent than anything the right wing does.
The left absolutely rapes the right on youtube.
>gamergate is lies
what did he mean by this?
yes by all means proceed
Perhaps you could break down why these people are wrong rather than making vague assertions? No?
If you feel like you are being OWNED!!!!112311, it might be because that's what's actually happening.
Well, the video I have seen of him was a response video about the EU wanting to replace its population or something. Guy did cite his sources, I can tell you that, and I don't think he had any snark. Seemed more like that autistic robot type.
Not that guy, but it's pretty common knowledge by now that gg was founded on a huge lie. The guy that Quinn supposedly slept with for good reviews never even reviewed her game.
you ever noticed how the schizophrenic conspiracy theorists all sort of enter the thread in a cluster, almost as if coordinated, respond with strangely familiar talking points, and then all leave at the same time? Weird, huh?
Well one can speculate based on 'implementing programs' and i am not against people engaging in diversity i am against programs being instituted by the state against peoples desire to associate freely.
If you personally decide that broadening your pool of applicants is desirable then feel free to pursue diversity as it is your right to associate freely as well.
Anon, all the guys the dude you're arguing with has mentioned cite their sources. He'll never accept that Arrows or anyone else making the same points could possibly be right because he's opted out of rationality.
>shaun and contra for constantly being correct.
i actually made myself very clear, i hate the time wasting just to hear the fucking party line with contra. i've heard all these things before, she is like many of them more spectacle than substance.
>this is just an inspide attack on her character when i point out my issues with her content
BIG THUNK
>muh shuan
Now i was remembering his back and forth with tl;dr quite a while ago and the man did not infact appear anyway honest or even capable.
and i've already stated i believe this to be a direct result of them taking on the skeptics(tm) format
>but but but my big brain commies tell me i'm right
>they validate me
>The left absolutely rapes the right on youtube.
>literally Contra owns the CONSERVATARDS with FACTS and LOGIC
you know i pointed this out as a problem with this format, i breeding idiotic anklebiters like yourself, skeptic, bread or... (is there even a unified right wing tube or is it just nazis also ben "i'm not short, mommy tells me i'm still growing" shekleperio) it doesn't matter you fucking chud.
Fair enough, I suppose this is as close as we will get to agreeing, before the thread 404s anyway.
Cheers, m80.
No worries mate always good to have a reasonable discussion.
Someone should create a comic about an '80s pastor who infiltrates a D&D group looking for satanism. He'd create a LG cleric or something in a party full of murder hoboes. He gets the player characters to stop being amoral shitbags and the players convince him they aren't satanists, just kids having fun. I would but I have no artistic talent.
Saying her presentation invalidates her highly well-researched content is pretty much an insipid attack.
>and i've already stated i believe this to be a direct result of them taking on the skeptics(tm) format
The format of many of these people isn't even very much like that of the old muhskepticism guys. For one, the skeptic community generally just mocked rather than producing citations and research. And the format matters very little when they're producing solid as fuck evidence and avenues for one's own research, which is the most valuable aspect of this stuff.
>you know i pointed this out as a problem with blah blah blah blah
Anon this is 4chan, we're going to use graphic language often. If hyperbolic statements involving sex acts offend you, you need to leave.
>How many middle-aged pastors did you see who snuck into D&D games, played for a while pretending to enjoy themselves, then suddenly tried to change every single aspect of the game
...How many rainbow haired gay man have you, personally, encountered sneaking into your game, pretending for a little while to enjoy themselves, and then trying to change everything?
Because I've been playing and running for just over twenty years and this seems to me to be something that exists entirely in your head.
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>ITT
well i did in short
harris, like i said his souls videos. if a man couldn't handle that correctly i don't trust him to touch something important like politicians. I'm lead to believe his videos on onions were good, i will give him that if true. But i was introduced to his bye nye video where he decided to avoid doing an fully informative video to fucking joke it up at the idiotic skeptics
Lindsey, i'll admit i stopped with her when she was an NC clone feel free to correct me if she got the big brain later in life. rape rap.
contra, wastes time for spectacle I don't particularly like that, and from what i remember there isn't much interesting to make up for that. I do infact like contra however, seems good enough as a person.
Destiny is a sociopathic neoliberal /v/irgin and pseud, if you want to bat for him sure but i think i can leave it here.
Well personally i just don't like shaun, he rubbed me the wrong way in a response i remember to fucking nerd deer. my exposure is limited. his video on Charlottesville is tedious but at least solid but that's something rather easy to prove.
>board about a hobby populated 90% by special snowflakes
>expecting them not to be SJW
>(is there even a unified right wing tube or is it just nazis also ben "i'm not short, mommy tells me i'm still growing" shekleperio)
Of course there is. Stefan Molyneux, Peterson, Lauren Southern, 'The Golden One', etc. Each one more brainlet than the last.
i am entirely sure that gamergate was the result of the censorship of the conversation and the result of years of tension between the consumer and the journalist culminating in them releasing articles that made everyone think there was collusion, rightly.
there is a reason why zoe was a literally who.
that is to say while related the quinnspiracy was not gamergate
that's good perhaps i'll check it out.
who was he responding to
now i don't think Peterson fits in there and considering his work i don't think you could really call him a brainlet either.
now i thought stefan and lauren were considered to be a part of the nazis
Some popular alt-right (?) youtuber. Dunno the name, but he put all the relevant links in the vid description.
I don't consume content from any of those people, so I can't really speak to their intellectual calibre. I personally dislike Peterson quite a bit, his mannerisms put me off and he has admitted to acting as a "gatekeeper." Sean Last and Alternative Hypothesis are much more my speed, although I imagine their videos are too long for a lot of people. A lot of those people you listed sound like low hanging fruit, like Ben Shapiro interviewing rainbow haired college students as opposed to leftist intellectuals.
I'm gonna be honest, I have no fucking clue who Harris and Lindsey are. I don't really give a fuck about Destiny either, though I'm pretty sure he's not a breadtuber. He seems way to neoliberal for that.
Contrapoints is generally great at dissecting the logic of certain groups and laying bare how feeble it is. Shaun is just a fucking citation beast who delivers information in a no-nonsense, though not to the extent of Three Arrows. Mexie is pretty good at this too. There's also that one British dude, though he's more of a balance with just chucking interesting reading at you and tearing apart faulty logic in Contrapoints style.
>now i thought stefan and lauren were considered to be a part of the nazis
Unfortunately most of right wing youtube IS just far right white supremacist style lunatics. The GOP doesn't really do youtube.
>now i don't think Peterson fits in there
I dunno man, when you actually analyze his shit it reads as pretty damn skeevy.
He's obviously not a complete moron, as he managed to get a PhD, but his published work is... pretty fucking moronic. Maps of Meaning is incoherent, scattered gibberish and Rules for Life is a bunch of standard common sense self help logic served up with a glistening sheen of conservative hysteria. He's certainly a brainlet in the domain he's become known for.
>Saying her presentation invalidates her highly well-researched content is pretty much an insipid attack.
if I'm against how she presents something that pointing out i hate how she presents something is valid thank you. i like my stuff dry. and my own personal pet peeve is she does not infact put a list of citations in the lowbar for all aydin's faults she does this, hell some of the skeptics did this when they did it.
>And the format matters very little when they're producing solid as fuck evidence and avenues for one's own research,
i don't entirely think so, even with the skeptics who did present that sort of research there is in their style a tendency to breed and ownage culture. see tl;dr. i think it's stupid and generally bad for discouse. god damned you guys are getting me to praise contra given she does actually go and talk to people which is good.
>hyperbolic langauge.
>niggas be up here telling me how the left totally OWNS!!@!@!# the left and you here acting like it isn't the disease spreading through your community.
With some rum luck you'll find yourself like the septics someday.
I didn't know who contrapoints was so I had to look it up. Am I really expected to believe this freak is capable of "tearing apart faulty logic?" This is a mentally ill person broadcasting their mental illness onto the internet, and I believe you are consuming their content, at least partially, for fetishistic reasons. The very fact that he is allowed into the public space is offensive to me because it means that impressionable people will consume his content and some will try to emulate it. His entire front page is modern leftist gender insanity, if this is the highest caliber intellectual you can cite I think you're in a pretty shitty position, not gonna lie.
Hboomberguy.
Lindsey Ellis also nostalgia chick.
fuck i forgot foldiable ideas the man so fucking seething he downloaded illegal materials to own the goobergaters.
The mere fact that you think all this tells me that watching her videos would annihilate your brain. She would indeed tear your logic apart.
well yeah he's a jungian.
this is the sort of things you expect from them.
no from what i remember he did do some good but i'm not infact a social scientist
>Hboomberguy.
Oh, his name's Harris? I've only seen his soi video, it's pretty great at dispelling all the myths the right has perpetuated over the last few years but I don't really like his voice.
>nostalgia check
Dunno who this is.
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I never saw her capitalism videos.
Did she recognize the issues within the left to argue over the degree of private ownership?
>when she gets her fucking yt account collectivized
Cope.
>it's pretty great at dispelling all the myths the right has perpetuated over the last few years
And I'll bet you've never once gone sp far as to watch anyone pointing out the hundreds of times he's lied because like him you're an ideologue uninterested in truth
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Well, I've never seen any of his other videos, so I haven't really had much exposure to his lies. That said considering that the soi video was full of verifiable sources, I can't say that I believe there were many lies in there.
In which instances has he lied?
>oh his name is Harris
yes i believe that's the h now before that i thought it was do it again Harris. which honestly i like better.
now i have not watched the onions videos, but it's against PJW and a fucking /pol/ meme so it has to be pretty reasonable.
my issue is again his souls videos make doubt his ability. take for instance "in defense of darksouls 2" terribly researched, portrays his opponents terribly, dishonestly presents mathewmatosis, including selective editing. it makes all sorts of wild claims that fall apart under any scrutiny.
and i look at this and go, how can i trust someone with something far more emotionally charged as politics?
this is fucking vydia
Or maybe y'know the ecosystem collapsing and our planet becoming unlivable. Great job on the retirement though.
Your mom?
To be honest mate, I'd probably rather fellate this than Crowder or Molyneux.
They like these people for the lefty politics they shit out, nevermind the dozens of times they've been backhanded across the Internet by some random rightwinger who actually bothered to bring statistics to a debate.
As an outside observer, I cringe whenever I see some faggot spend an hour weaselling around the definition of a word then going on to twitter to tell his loyal fans how he won an internet argument and btfo those evil right wingers
How often do you see that? - as an outside observer, of course.
Anon, nobody's impressed when Shapiro out-argues some unprepared college kid.
>terribly researched, portrays his opponents terribly, dishonestly presents mathewmatosis, including selective editing. it makes all sorts of wild claims that fall apart under any scrutiny.
Yep that goes for all he's videos.
I think in part he has the same problem as Sargon. To Americans, just about any southern British accent sounds intelligent and refined, so people just trust what they say.
But either side of the aisle, we can all agree that triggering Harris by reminding him of his history as an internet troll on Metokur is hilarious
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off the top of my head ds2. he completely misrepresents mw's argument that the ds2 enemies have an issue with tracking compared to the other ones and this is an issue of balance by saying some gibberish about the enemy onscreen being bad and because this boss was unmemorable. likewise he brushes off mws criticism of the focus system by well being a cunt really and miss representing it if i'm not mistaken.
as far as i can get with this guy it's a fucking mess.
>the ecosystem collapsing and our planet becoming unlivable
Shit like this is why old boomers talk about kids being brainwashed.
Even the most grim climate scientists have never fucking claimed the planet will become unliveable. And if you thought that could ever happen you'd have to be braindead. Go look at Earths history and see how life thrives even in incredibly extreme conditions.
Not so much these days because it seems it's less of a thing for youtubers to have debates, but all through last year this was common
i can't generally disagree with that accept i'm surprised americans are so stup... wait no i'm not.
>Yep that goes for all he's videos.
Okay, since people seem to generally think the onions video is good, can you point out how that is terrible researched and makes wild claims that fall apart under any scrutiny?
Not that guy, but do you think that is reason dismiss every concern people rightfully have about the climate? Because there sure as hell is a load of shit coming towards us, even if it doesn't mean all life on earth will die.
Don't worry anon. When everyone in low-lying areas finds their homes flooded, they can just sell them and move!
Well how about we start with the fact that regardless of scientific basis, the association with śóy and a lack of masculinity is a meme at this point.
Did you ever know a kid at school who'd get insulted and reply to the bully with some contrivance about how whatever he was called is actually a good thing? Yeah that's how Harris looks when he takes a joke insult literally and tries to "debunk" it.
Irrelevant, you're back-pedalling. Don't exaggerate next time and you'll have an easier time being taken seriously
>meme at this point
well it was always infact a meme. then again he's latching onto the smallest part of the /pol/ t score thing.
But I never exaggerated.
>the association with śóy and a lack of masculinity is a meme at this point.
It was always a meme, anon, though many people on the right have internalized it so fully that they actually believe it. The point of that video was to show how this kind of insane thinking is being used by grifters to sell products based on retarded non-logic.
I'm sure the left is getting grifted too. Well actually we know they are. Doesn't seem relevant to me.
Instead of just ignoring the insult, it got under Harris's skin and he had to make a video that was basically "no you're the stupid one!". That in itself is laughably pathetic, and it shows an immense lack of self awareness
>I'm sure the left is getting grifted too. Well actually we know they are.
What do you know that the left is being grifted by?
People debunk their stuff because, unfortunately, their arguments are what most of the right believes at the moment.
How about Bernie "No Refunds" Sanders? Dropped out of the election, bought a $600,000 beach front summer home.
He'll run again in 2020 and idiots will throw money at him again. Don't have screencaps on hand but there were examples of people literally donating their entire pay checks to him to "defeat capitalism"
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Bernie dropped out because Clinton became the final presumptive nominee for the party. That's how this shit works.
I think you're deluding yourself if you believe "most of the right" listens to someone named "The Golden One." Peterson, as well, has a small following of fatherless men, Moly is a reformed libertarian with a literal cult around him, etc. You are imagining them as a far greater influence than they are.
Almost like a profit motive leads to consistently immoral decisions.
Pretty sure everyone on the left realizes that companies adapting to the times is not a sign of them genuinely being forward-thinking. Especially everyone on the actual left.
No true scotsman.
And the immediate purchase of a summer home worth more than half a million dollars was coincidence?
What's he even doing with a summer home? Do any of the lower classes he was supposedly fighting for have summer homes? Or was he fighting for them to all get free summer homes along with free college tuition?
The Golden One was hilariously popular for a while, and Peterson genuinely has a gigantic following, as does Shapiro. Moly is a way lesser issue than either of them but he does a great deal to indoctrinate people into his retarded worldview and is therefore worth debunking.
I'm actually pretty sure they don't.
You may want to look up how that fallacy actually works.
Anon, wanting to spend more on education and healthcare does not mean being a class warrior.
every single person claiming to be a former altrighter who saw the light of the left
pigpuncher i'm looking at you mr i used to be a tradcon but that's altright
>Large segments of the left leaning population celebrate what I posted
>The actual left {doesn't fall for faggot signalling from megacorps} t. you
That's a classic example of the fallacy bruh.
You're right, especially as free higher education devalues degrees to the poor of worthlessness, fucking over working class people the most.
Based post
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E4CI2vk3ugk
I'm not sure I understand? Are you referring to those bait threads that were essentially "I used to be a literal Nazi but sophistry from a tranny turned me hard left"? they were a good meme for a while. Annoying spam, but better than BLACKED threads
Seems to work out fine in every other developed country.
That's not the only incarnation of the meme. There's people who've realized they can get those sweet ad dollars by making half hour long youtube videos repeating that.
Pretty sure you gargle man ass
I've never cringed so hard in my entire life. A literal child's understanding of politics with a heavy "Good vs Bad" slant
Could just as easily say the left is all about breaking up the traditional family and encouraging people to rely on the state so the government can have more and more control and over reach.
But tl;dr riddle me this, why is it cities that have been Democrat majorities for decades have the absolute worst rates of poverty homelessness and crime?
Looking at you Detroit, Chicago, San Fransisco
Pretty sure you've given up
Not really. I mean, for one, the post didn't say only the 'real' leftists get it - it said especially.
Furthermore, let's be frank here, the left celebrates companies doing this shit because it pretty much means they're winning. Not the class war, certainly, but the if companies are basically being forced to embrace the LBGT stuff by popular demand, this demonstrates that social understanding is shifting left.
Well then, I guess it's just your word against mine, and seeing as we're both anonymous buggers on a thai fishing almanac, that's as far as things can go.
Pretty sure you've given up not being a stupid faggot
Jesus Christ, this thread is still up? It's 50% over bump limit. Someone make an elf slave thread already to bump this disgrace off the face of the earth.
It demonstrates that the left will ruin your fucking life if you oppose them, yes. Go ask any baker who's been harassed for refusing to put a message they don't agree with on something they produce
Have you considered that lots of people vote Democrat in these places because they want the issues their cities face due to right wing bullshit fixed, and that changing massive population centers involves more than just having a mayor with progressive opinions?
That was literally my point
Seems like right wing cities are doing pretty well in comparison. States have a lot of autonomy, why is it blue states tend to actually be worse for disparity between rich and poor? Really makes ya hmmm
What's with /pol/ constantly bringing up that one bakery example? That one got solved by a court, not by the left being meanies, mind you.
California has had a democrat supermajority for decades, and major urban centers have been run by democrats for decades.
Why is it that the places supposedly rife with *even more* right wing bullshit are doing better than San Francisco or Los Angeles.
lel, you mean that one baker from several years ago? I'm sure they indicate an epidemic.
Speaking of people ruining others' lives for disagreeing with them, should be steer this discussion back to the fact that the vast majority of domestic terrorism is perpetrated by right-wingers, and that while the left might downvote you on social media, the right will send you homemade bombs when you don't disagree with them? Because if you're trying to imply that the left is more hostile and prone to fucking with people's lives, I'm afraid you are entirely up shit creek.
There was way more than 1 example and many of the people involved were deliberately targeting Christian bakeries because they knew they'd be refused and they could sue. Utter scum.
Let me know when a Neo Nazi walks into the gay part of town, can't get a swaztika on a cake and gets their case heard by the Supreme Court
I specifically used the exact word he used, you fucking disingenuous kike.
It also doesn't necessarily mean that "social understanding is shifting left." That's the most charitable interpretation to the gender insane left. A 'real' (economic) leftist would say something like "these corporations are using gender politics to diffuse class consciousness." Which I think you believe by the way you're typing, but we both acknowledge is not the standard view of the left that exists in America today. That left is also the real left. It's the real left because it exists and has power through it's alliance with international corporate influence. The few economic leftists remaining who actually believe in the redistribution of capital have been run out in favor of the freaks, to the benefit of (((you know who.)))
Are you retarded? Weather Underground was a thing. Andy Ngo right now, is a thing.
Globally Communist terrorism is 2nd only to Islamic terrorism
>Let me know when a Neo Nazi walks into the gay part of town, can't get a swaztika on a cake and gets their case heard by the Supreme Court
Yeah, that didn't happen, but there was the time a nazi shot up a mosque, fun times.
>California has had a democrat supermajority for decades, and major urban centers have been run by democrats for decades.
And it doesn't really matter in the face of overall governmental policy and systemic shittery. Same goes for your second point.
why is that red states almost universally make up the bottom ranks in everything to education to poverty to crime rate? (Oh they make up the top ranks in those statistics.)
Antifa exists and is often aided by leftist state governments. Eric Clanton is probably the most egregious example. You've been rused.
Ago hol up
So you be tellin me
You, a lefty
Consuming left wing media
Haven't heard about left wing terrorism
My shock is in the post
Why are the places with *more* right wingers doing better, instead of even worse?
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