The US Justice Department has denied that it's pushing AT&T to sell a division that includes CNN as a condition to finalize its mega-merger with Time Warner.
Late on Wednesday, an unnamed official with the Justice Department stated that it was AT&T that was behind an idea to sell Turner Broadcasting, the entity that owns CNN and other cable channels, due to a condition set forth by the department, the Washington Examiner reported.
NBC News has also corroborated the report about the DOJ official's allegations against AT&T, CNBC reported.
The department official said the idea was proposed by the telecommunications giant during a meeting with DOJ officials Monday, as AT&T attempts to merge with Time Warner at a cost of $84.5 billion.
The official stated that others in the department did not like the proposed idea of selling off the 24-hour news network.
The department official also said that Antitrust Division officials made it clear there are "many ways" to settle their concerns regarding the merger and potential anti-competition issues that could arise, and that selling CNN or its parent company would not necessarily "solve the harm to the public," according to the Examiner.
However, the Financial Times reported Wednesday that the DOJ told the two companies that CNN needed to be sold if they wanted their merger to be approved.
Multiple news outlets also reported that the Trump administration is asking AT&T and Time Warner to either sell off CNN, or DirecTV, in order to secure government approval of the merger deal, according to ARS Technica.
During President Donald Trump's campaign, and since being elected last year, Trump has repeatedly decried CNN as a "fake news" outlet. On one occasion, he even tweeted a video of himself from a pro wrestling event, doctored to show him fighting CNN's logo.
As the controversy of the sell-off started to heat up, AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson defended his company against the DOJ allegations in a statement Wednesday, stating they were not behind the controversial idea.
"[I]t's important to set the record straight. Throughout this process, I have never offered to sell CNN and have no intention of doing so," Stephenson made clear, the Examiner reported.
Stephenson had previously said that he expected the merger to be done by Thanksgiving, but he allegedly told investors privately Wednesday that a timeline no longer exists.
The DOJ subsequently responded to Stephenson's statement.
Time Warner shares dipped 6 percent after reports about the CNN sell off surfaced. However, AT&T's stock was up 1 percent.
AT&T initially announced the deal to acquire Time Warner in October of 2016.


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Hockey World League: India and Pakistan renew rivalry in Belgium
Posted By rajtechnews on June 26, 2015
After two unconvincing wins, a misfiring India face their first real test when they take on arch-rivals Pakistan in a much-anticipated Pool A encounter of Hockey World League Semi-Final on Friday.
The showstopper encounter between Asian Games champions India and Champions Trophy silver medallists Pakistan has raised the stakes in the diamond city of Antwerp.
The misfiring Indians enjoy the luxury of having already qualified for the 2016 Olympic Games, but Pakistan have promised to go all-out into attack in Friday's sub-continental contest.
For both India and Pakistan, a victory in this preliminary pool match will pave the way for a favourable quarterfinal draw. AFP
For both India and Pakistan, a victory in this preliminary pool match will pave the way for a favourable quarterfinal draw.
Friday's match is also the first encounter between the sub-continental hockey rivals since their clash in the tense, incident-marred Champions Trophy semifinals in Bhubaneswar, where some gestures during onfield celebrations by the victorious Pakistani team lead to a few suspensions.
There remains some palpable tension between the teams over that incident, but tomorrow both the side would seek to showcase the attractive sub-continental style of hockey.
Going into the contest, both India and Pakistan's strikers have been erratic and wayward.
India have won both their first two outings against France (3-2) and Poland (3-0) but Paul van Ass' wards were far from impressive.
Pakistan, on the other hand, managed to beat Poland 2-1 before being outplayed by Australia.
Australia hammered Pakistan 6-1 last evening after being 1-1 level at half-time.
India captain Sardar Singh said even though their Rio Olympic berth is secured, they want to take this opportunity produce some positive results ahead of the World League Finals, to be played at home at the end of the year.
"We want to win against Pakistan ahead of the game against World champions Australia the next day," said Sardar.
For India's new chief coach Paul van Ass to be a part of an Indo-Pak contest comes as a completely new experience.
"It's going to be my first experience of an India-Pakistan hockey encounter. But during the 2010 World Cup in Delhi, I saw the excitement it causes," said Van Ass, a former Dutch national coach.
Van Ass says he had only seen the current Pakistan team on television before the ongoing tournament, but insisted India were focused on their own game.
"We need to control the ball well and our penalty corners ought to be better executed," said Van Ass, who has used the tournament to try out new strategies and also some young players.
"The young boys always give lots of energy," he said.
Several injuries to some key players and the new coach's plan to test juniors is the reason India are not here in full strength.
In comparison, Pakistan have a well-settled side, which is here in full strength.
"Our lineup has not changed since the Incheon Asian Games and the Champions Trophy at Bhubaneswar last year," said Pakistan coach Shahnaz Sheikh, a former captain and Olympian himself, who was also the coach at the Asian Games and Champions Trophy.
"We have a lot at stake in this tournament," said Shahnaz, seeking to play down the controversy about over-the-top celebrations that followed the last encounter between the two neighbours.
"Let bygones be bygones and let's put up a fine exhibition of hockey," said Shahnaz.
"We want to win this one to improve our position in the group and get a good draw in the quarterfinals," said Shahnaz.
For Pakistan this tournament is the last opportunity to qualify for the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro, having lost the Asian Games gold medal to India, who thus became the first team to secure passage to next year's quadrennial event.
Three Olympic qualification spots are available to the top-placed teams from this competition, but some sides ranked slightly lower may also get a chance if any of the countries also feature in the five places available to winners of continental tournaments.
Pakistan have played at every Olympics since their first appearance in 1948, but they failed to feature in the 2014 World Cup, an event that they have won more times than any other country.
The top three teams in this tournament will also advance to the World League Final in India in December.
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You are a poet! You see the world in your own special way every day. Whenever you look up at the clouds and see long tail dragons and sailing ships you are a poet. When you tell others about your visions and dreams you are a poet. You are a poet whenever you tell the world who you are, what you think, and how you feel. Finding poetry in the world and sharing it makes us all feel alive. It fills us with hope and wonder. It celebrates life. It shines light into the corners of the world and turns the overlooked and the common into little gems to behold.
Poetry is everywhere! It's in the smile of a friend and in the sound of the wind. It's in the scent of the meadow and in the skyline of the city. It's in the setting sun as she pulls her purple curtain across the backdrop of the world. Poetry is music, theater, dance, art and literature. Poetry is winter, spring, summer, and fall. Poetry is laughter and tears, faith and fears. Poetry is life!
Poets like to compare one thing to another, but have you ever thought about comparing a poem itself to something else? It's fun! Try it. Read through a few of these and see what you think. You'll soon be comparing poems to everything -- and anything! You might even get carried away like I did and find yourself writing a whole book of them!
Come join me now as we stroll along this little path of poetry to see where it might lead. Please take your time. No need to rush. There's so much to see, so much to imagine, so much to dream!
It lights up where it's been.
The gallery of your mind.
And then he sets them free!
Hi Charles, I love this poetry exercise and plan to try it with my students when we return to school. I even tried to write a few of my own, but they definitely need polish!
I posted one for Poetry Friday and linked to your blog so others could try this fun activity.
Love these, Charles! Especially the spiderweb one. Whispers made of thunder--that totally captures poetry for me.
Poetry is all those things you say, Charles. I enjoyed your series of little poems, especially the first one. "Thoughts turned inside out" and "a glimpse of who you are" spoke to me.


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charge of all ORD mess facilities.
Description The June 28, 1946, issue of The Rotator, published by the United States Army Basic Traing Center 10/Overseas Replacement Depot in Greensboro, North Carolina.
Full text Congress Approves Service Pay Boost Bill; Army Abolishes Some Social Distinctions « • Reforms Will Foster Gl Dignify, Decency Says Sec. Patterson Twelve P o i n t s O u t l i n e d; D i s c r i m i n a t i o n C h a r g es Recommended By B o a rd Twelve of fourteen recommendations of Lt. Gen. James Doolittle 's ' ' caste system'' investigating board were approved by Secretary of War Robert P. Patterson, abolishing many social barriers between officers and enlisted men. Patterson admitted in his 2,500- word report this week that certain Army practices "need c6rrection in the interest of fostering the dignity and decency of the individual." He added, however that "common s^nse" should rule and that his action did not mean the abolition of all off-duty restraint upon social association of officers and enlisted men. Recommendations approved by Patterson will: 1. Abolish the hand salute off Army installations. It will be rendered on ceremonial occasions, in occupied territory and as an official greeting in line of duty. 2. Allow all military personnel to pursue normal social patterns when off duty. 3. Improve leadership in the Army through careful selection of officers and their education In personnel management. 4. Provide military personnel with a greater sense of security and responsibility. The base"~pay raises authorized by Congress "will help take care of this," Patterson said, "as will prospective changes in allowances" for food, quarters and travel." 5. Grant enlisted men accumulated leave for terminal pay purposes on the same basis now provided for officers. 6. Abolish discriminatory references to "officers and their ladies" and "enlisted men and their wives." 7. Grant equality of enlisted men and officers before military courts. Patterson said this has always been in effect. 8. Make it more difficult for high ranking officers to get decorations. 9. Write regulations, and Instructions so they will not permit abuse of authority. This can be attained better through a properly trained officers corps, he said. 10. Encourage close association between Army officers, their men and civilians. 11. Provide for a continuing study of officer-enlisted man relationships. 12. Eliminate the provisions in the officer's field manual providing distinctive uniforms, separate garrison living quarters and absence of social contacts between officers and men. 725th AAF Band Ends Service Record Here Inactlvation of 725th Air Force Band at ORD will be effected on June 30, according to a directive this week from Headquarters, AAFTC, Barksdale Field, La. The 724th Band is scheduled to remain here after that date, however. Personnel of the 725th are to be transferred to the control of the War Department and become a part of the 106th AAF Base Unit at ORD, without loss of present grades. The ORD Band was listed with several other AAF band groups which will be discontinued this onth.. Following inactlvation, musi- 11 equipment will be turned into spply as surplus without any future lonsideration of re-organizing the 725th. During its services here, the 725th has been detailed to play for formal guard mount, reviews, and troop, trains-, and shared such duties witt the 724th Band. The soon-to-b/j-ended 725th was re-designated by that number from the 425th Band which served with BTC 10 prior '.to December, 1943. «- AAF OVERSEAS REPLACEMENT DEPOT q?*£e A UNIT OF THE AAF TRAINING COMMAND VOL. 5. NO. 46 106th AAFBU, Greensboro, N. C, Friday, June 28,1946 FREE DISTRD3UTION Named Deputy CO COL. MORTON D. MAGOFFIN . . . Air Medal With 16 Clusters Ninth Air Force Ace Named Assistant CO; Deputy Commander Has 85 Combat Missions Col. Morton D. Magoffin, a graduate of the I?, S. Military Academy and Fort Leavenworth's General Staff School, Monday assumed the newly created position of Deputy Commanding Officer of ORD, it was revealed. The officer, becoming second in* command here, served as a senior pilot with the Ninth Air Force in Europe where he was credited with destroying five German planes during the war. He completed 85 missions in pursuit aircraft before being shot down over enemy territory and taken prisoner. Even though badly wounded he managed to escape ten days later and return to Allied lines. Colonel Magoffin has the Distinguished Service Cross, Silver Star, Croix De Guerre, Purple Heart, Unit Citation, Distinguished Flying Cross, and the Air Medal with 16 Oak Leaf Clusters. He served overseas nearly 22 months, some of which was spent in Hawaii before the war and after graduation from West Pfllnt in 1937, Other stations have been, respectively, Self ridge Field, Mich., Drew Field, Tampa, Fla., and Minter Field at Bakers-field, Cal. While in Europe he was assigned to air fields in both England and France. The colonel's wife and two daughters accompanied him here, and will live in Greensboro during his assignment at ORD. His original home is Deerwood, Minn. Eisenhower Slates ORD May Transfer Yesterday's edition of the weekly Greensboro Democrat made public a letter written to the local chapter of the Disabled American Veterans concerning the closing of ORD. The letter, which was written by Chief of Staff General Dwight D. Eisenhower, stated that the* question of relocating ORD is currently under consideration in the War Department. . Complete text of the letter to the organization i< > ( > -— 54 •£*" 50 App percentage Proposed of in-base pay crease $165 20 185" 20 115 20 100 80 00 40 80 50 75 50 Commissioned Grades Present Proposed Percent- Pay base base age of period pay pay Increase First -$1,800 $2,180 20 Second — - 2,000 2,400 20 Third 2,400 2,760 15 Fourth — 3,000 8,300 10 Fifth 3,500 8,880 10 Sixth 4,000 4,400 10' Mess Officer Explains New Table Set-Up ORD swung sharply back into peacetime customs and traditions of the service with the inauguration Wednesday of .special tables In two mess halls where non-commissioned officers of the first three grades will henceforth eat their chow. The system will be put Into operation in all mess halls as soon as possible, according to Maj. William Q. Baldwin, who recently took charge of all ORD mess facilities. Tables have already been set up In No. 1 and 9>. "This is the desire of the commanding officer . . . it gives these top graders prestige and makes them realize they are non-commis-sionerl officers," Maj, Baldwin said. The custom is well known to old army men but was largely forgotten during the war when the coveted stripes with the rockers blossomed in astronomical figures. Mess personnel desire to produce the best food and service possible, according to the major. He said cooperation of the enlisted men will greatly aid in accomplishing such objectives. He also emphasized that such practices as going through the line with silverware in pockets of clothing is unsanitary. Maj. Baldwin reminded those who complain about one slice of bread at a time that there is a food conservation program being enforced all through the army to aid starving Europe. Men who are still hungry may secure a second slice by going through the line again, he said.


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CMF Assists MV CPO China Following Suspected Pirate Attack
At approximately 13:45 (Bahrain time) on Monday, 3 January 2011, Combined Maritime Forces (CMF) was notified of a distress call from the merchant vessel CPO China, a UK flagged tanker, indicating that it was under pirate attack whilst underway in the North Arabian Sea.
In response to a distress call HMAS Melbourne's boarding party, embarked on Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats (RHIBs), prepare to conduct a boarding on tanker CPO China. (Photo © Commonwealth of Australia)
The ship reported taking fire from several skiffs and, despite evasive maneuvering, was boarded by the suspected pirates.
The ship's master mustered his 20 man crew in the ship's citadel, a secure compartment from where they could retain control of the ship.
Australian frigate HMAS Melbourne, currently serving with CMF's counter-piracy mission, Combined Task Force 151, was the nearest warship to CPO China and was immediately ordered to assist.
At approximately 17:15, HMAS Melbourne's helicopter arrived in the vicinity of the CPO China and the warship established communications with the crew. Having been unable to take control of the merchant vessel, and with Melbourne on the scene, the pirates left the ship
The Master of the CPO China reported that all the crew members were safe. At first light the next morning a security team from HMAS Melbourne boarded the ship to ensure it was secure and to assist the crew in exiting the citadel.
A CMF spokesman said, "Somali pirates operate across a vast expanse of sea. They use large mother ships to travel great distance from the Somali coast, from where they can launch fast skiffs to attack international shipping".
"We are pleased that HMAS Melbourne was close enough to intervene in this instance. However, coalition warships may not always be in the vicinity of a pirate attack. That is why we emphasize that seafarers have the power to greatly reduce their chances of being pirated if they take simple precautions".
"Mariners transiting these waters should follow the guidance laid out in Best Management Practice Volume 3. Merchant Masters are also advised to regularly check Navigation Area Warnings and liaise closely with Maritime Trade authorities if further guidance is required."
Other CMF warships have also been involved in disrupting pirate activities in recent days.
HMAS Melbourne has been serving with Combined Maritime Forces since September 2010. (Photo: © Commonwealth of Australia)
On January 2, the U.S. Navy cruiser USS Lake Champlain was ordered to investigate a suspicious vessel that had been spotted in the Gulf of Aden. The vessel displayed the hallmarks associated with the kind of 'skiff' commonly used by pirates.
As Lake Champlain launched her helicopter to investigate, the suspicious vessel increased its speed and was seen to be throwing items overboard. The vessel initially refused verbal commands to stop, but ultimately heeded directions after warning shots were fired.
Personnel from Lake Champlain then boarded the skiff and confiscated excess fuel and a motor. The vessel was then released.
CMF's counter-piracy operation, Combined Task Force (CTF) 151, consists of international warships and patrol aircraft in the Gulf of Aden, Arabian Sea and Somali Basin. It is commanded by Commodore Abdul Aleem of the Pakistan Navy. In recent months it has included ships from Australia, Singapore, Republic of Korea, Thailand and Turkey, UK and U.S.
CTF 151′s mission is to deter, disrupt and suppress piracy, protecting maritime vessels of any nationality and securing freedom of navigation. In conjunction with other international navies and organisations, CTF 151 conducts patrols in the Internationally Recommended Transit Corridor and supports Best Management Practice methods for piracy avoidance that are promoted to the shipping industry.
CTF 151 is one of three task forces operated by Combined Maritime Forces, a 25-nation coalition based in Bahrain. Its main focus areas are defeating terrorism, preventing piracy, encouraging cooperation and promoting a safe maritime environment throughout the
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One of the United Churches League's remits when it began in 1948 was to focuses solely on Saturday football to allow people to play the game and still attend church.
So it seems fitting the Dublin league which concentrates exclusively on Saturday football that they have delayed the start of their league campaign due the Papal visit.
The arrival of Pope Francis to Ireland has coincided with the UCFL's pre arranged kick off time, but the powers that be have decided to the first round of fixtures back a week.
The UCFL are not affording time for the players who compete in the league to go and catch a glimpse of the Pope, rather considering car are not being allowed dirty the red carpet that is being rolled out for the religious figure the committee believe it might prove difficult for players to make away fixtures.
The league will now kick off on Monday 26 instead, with another round of fixtures playing out on Wednesday.
"With the Papal visit on Saturday 25 and Sunday 26 of August and the ensuing road closures and traffic congestion it has been decided will be set for Saturday 25 August," confirmed the UCLF.


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Carmody Elects Richard L. Street as New Managing Partner
Carmody Torrance Sandak & Hennessey LLP has elected Richard L. Street as the firm's Managing Partner, effective February 1, 2020. Previously, Rick has served as Assistant Managing Partner of the firm and as Practice Group Leader of the firm's litigation group.
Outgoing Managing Partner Ann Zucker said, "Rick has a strong legal and business mind that makes him particularly well-suited to be Managing Partner. He is respected and trusted by both clients and members of the firm. Rick has my full confidence and support as he steps into this leadership role."
Rick joined the firm as an associate in 1993 and became a partner in 2001. He is a trial lawyer with substantial experience representing energy companies and other businesses in land use, catastrophic personal injury and construction litigation matters. He has been recognized for his work for clients in the courtroom by being named a Connecticut Super Lawyer for the last decade and being named a Connecticut Litigation Star by Benchmark Litigation numerous times. The Danbury Office of the State's Attorney has also recognized him for his pro bono efforts for victim advocacy.
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John Klar: Vermont Legislature tries an end-run around the Second Amendment
TNR / February 24, 2020
By John Klar
Vermont has embarked on a flagrant effort to trample on rights that the Second Amendment says "shall not be infringed." But this time, the lawyerly legislators sworn to protect and defend the Constitution have been caught red-handed.
Histrionic progressive Vermont legislators have tried to institute a blatantly unconstitutional farce by couching their evil effort in a domestic violence bill: H.610. Purportedly trying to close the so-called "Charleston loophole," this scam seeks to enact a 30-day waiting period for firearms purchases at the state level in place of the three-day federal "default proceed" process, which is current federal law. Further, if a potential gun-purchaser does not receive a background check clearance from the federal NCIS system after that 30 days, not only can't they proceed to purchase a weapon — under H.610, they have no right of appeal whatsoever.
John Klar
Imagine a legislature imposing a 30-day "waiting period" on a woman obtaining an abortion — and if there is no approval, she must proceed to delivery. But the "right" to have an abortion is an "implied" right, whereas the right to bear arms could not be more explicit — it is the right that guarantees all others. The United States Supreme Court has specifically ruled that this right is "deeply rooted in this nation's history and traditions" (Heller v. DC) and that this right must be equally protected against state governments under the Fourteenth Amendment (McDonald v. Chicago).
It is bizarre that those who claim that Donald Trump is a tyrant seek to dispose of citizens' core ability to oppose tyranny. One would think liberal awareness of the plights of the Uighur in China or Rohingya in Myanmar would lead them to clamor for more guns to secure our nation against dreaded tyrants, but instead they conspire to eradicate self-defense utterly.
The two sponsors of Vermont's H.610 (both attorneys) sit on the House Committee on the Judiciary. Vermont's Office of Legislative Council, and its attorney general, have both fully endorsed this draconian law, despite clear complaints that it grossly infringes on both the Second Amendment and the Due Process Clause, as well as Article 16 of the Vermont Constitution. All four of these attorneys are paid with taxpayer funds to defend the Constitution: they are instead dismantling them.
But Vermont is (as so often) a special case. Recent emails were released that revealed something even more insulting and indefensible: H.610 is being drafted by a special-interest social worker named Sarah Robinson!
In these emails, Attorney Erik Fitzpatrick of the Office of Legislative Counsel (which shamelessly calls itself "nonpartisan") writes to Sarah Robinson and Maxine Grad, Committee Chair:
Attached is the revised draft of H.610, incorporating the recommended changes Sarah sent after the meeting last week.
Sarah, can you please read the blue highlighted changes closely to make sure I have integrated them correctly? I did a bit of editing and rewriting for clarity and organization, but did not intend to change anything substantively. Thanks for your help and let me know what you think.
Fitzpatrick's fawning consideration is for Sara Robinson, deputy director of Vermont Network Against Domestic and Sexual Violence, a special-interest "nonprofit" that represents 15 consolidated nonprofit special interest groups.
An hour later, Maxine Grad responded: "Thanks. Erik once Sarah ok's it, it can get sent out and posted. M"
And posted it was.
The purpose of the "default proceed" component of federal law is to guarantee that government does not unilaterally, and without legal cause (e.g., a felony conviction), deprive someone of acquiring a firearm — including a woman in fear for her life at the hands of an enraged domestic partner or other criminal. The purpose of H.610, written by a special-interest social worker and implemented by Constitution-negating legislators and attorneys, is to interpose exactly such an unconstitutional hurdle.
Vermonters have been grossly deceived by those sworn to protect them. The question is, will anything be done about it?
John Klar is an attorney and farmer residing in Brookfield, and former pastor of the First Congregational Church of Westfield. He is running for governor in 2020.
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Gun control freaks beware!!! The Supreme Court can't wait to rule on any and all gun legislation these clowns are considering.
Francisco Machado says:
Insofar as reasonable freedom lets you do whatever you want as long as you're not doing it to someone else or at someone else's expense, it seems reasonable that any law requiring those who oppose gun ownership to own guns, while possibly not unconstitutional, is an unreasonable infringement on their freedom as long as circumstances do not demand it (i.e. repelling an alien invasion – a point brought up by Admiral Yamamoto). Likewise, it seems reasonable that those who have not been convicted of lawbreaking or are not in the process of committing a violation of the law should not be restricted from owning firearms. I fail to see why those in opposition to ownership consider my ownership of a gun unjustly to infringe upon their freedom. Biden recently brought up (I don't speak for his accuracy – especially given that it's Biden) the claim that "forty percent of guns were purchased without a background check." Since, as I remind the reader, guns have been purchased since the founding of the nation and background checks have only existed since the seventies, Biden's numbers are probably an underestimation. Crime statistics do not correspond to gun purchases; indeed, crime has gone down and purchases have gone up.
Unfortunately Vermonters are sheep. That's why taxes are so high, too much government control, and nobody will stand up to them. So happy to be an ex Vermonter.
Robert E. Naess says:
Where is the 30 day state hold mentioned in H.610? As an active FFL, many of my clients are put on a 3 day "review". Incomplete NICs records, inaccurate NICs records, false NICs records and other types of erroneous or incomplete information trigger a review so it is a NICS issue with their records and inaccurate or incomplete submissions of records by contributing LE and other enforcement agencies.
There is no "loophole" just incompetent administration of NICs and incomplete records.
James Lanese says:
Blah, Blah, Blah ! The same old same old. Vote them out, but you can't. The only way to beat them is to use the same tactics that they use. Find out where they live picket and protest outside of their homes. Especially those who take Bloomberg money to deprive of our rights. It is time to take them out of their smug comfort zone. I am not advocating any violence towards them but they should not be allowed to violate our rights and then ignore us without having to hear from us except at their trumped up hearings where the allow you to have five minutes to speak to people that are not listening. Are you listening Gun Owners of Vermont ?
Where are the all the pro 2nd Amendment lawyers in this state ( there must be some ) to bring charges if perjury for violating there oath. Where is the NRA filing suits on our behalf. Where are the Vermont sheriffs that will tell them they will not enforce their unconstitutional laws, like in Virginia. You can't play by their rules when they make the rules. Our rules are clear they are enumerated in the U.S. Constitution.
I WILL NOT OBEY – I WILL NOT COMPLY
J. McCandles says:
"Where is the NRA filing suits on our behalf."
Negotiating Rights Away has problems of it's own creation at the moment, even if they didn't I would look more towards SAF,FPC when it comes to filing suit's on behalf of the 2 nd. , than the NRA.
tom chase says:
Time to bring back the old days. Erect a stock on the front lawn of the State Capitol, for what can happen.
Interesting web page:
Medieval Chronicles
https://www.medievalchronicles.com/medieval-torture-devices/stocks-torture-device/
Medieval Torture Devices/ The Stocks
Saw a add at digger "half of youth smoke menthol , eliminate flavored tabacco" or like that.
any who I've got one for the gun grabbers
more then half of so called legislators for VT'ers hate citizens ability to protect themselves,
Eliminate all gun haters and hate funders..
Frank Beardsley says:
With Town Meeting Day coming up, check your town's social service appropriations warned in the Town Report. If they include any of the 'non-profits' listed in this article, stand up and make a motion to amend the proposed amount to zero. It can be done – bring along copies of their IRS 990's to justify the move.
Hit these groups in the pocketbook and don't let your tax dollars support them while they systematically remove our 'natural, inherent and inalienable' rights.
John johnson says:
Who is going to bring charges of treason against these people? Does anyone know how?
Steve A Jackson says:
It would be more effective and longer lasting to "storm the Capital" with Republican candidates armed with fortitude, conviction and a thorough knowledge of both the US and the Vermont constitutions. The battle is at the ballot box and it is past time for the GOP to actively cultivate the next generation of conservatives and more of them. It really is that simple, and safer.
Michael Hall says:
It's time to storm the capitol and remove the trash!
At the time the state house was constructed ,taking out the trash was a tar and feathering and a ride out on a rail in the public squar,that actually sounds too good for these lawless violaters.
Vincent C. Hunter says:
Guns, the conflict: Given several decades of gun legislation/regulation and the apparent intent of our constitution, the question is, can we and our neighbors sufficiently armed ourselves to over throw the government? If not, what are we to make of these "seekers-of-safety-from-shooters" eroding this more fundamental protection? I feel a parable coming on — the ski resort folks look at all the dirty snow in the parking lots…solution, snow's the problem…lets get rid of the snow.
Gary Cassady says:
As I have said many times before, in the Petri dish of The Vermont Universal Socialists, trammeling on it's citizens constitutional rights is the main ingredient of its annual legislative soup. It is evident in the state takeover of local education, the expansion of Act 250 to an unheard of structure never intended, and, not the least, trying to bankrupt the state in the name of mitigating global climate change, among many other socialist initiatives to numerous to mention.
While the Constitution of the United States works for the other 49 states, apparently the Republic of Vermont choses to dance to it's own tune regardless of how unpleasant the musiic.
Dano says:
Mr. klar, As an attorney can you tell us who is responsible for charging these legislators with the violation of their oath of office under the "pains and penalties of perjury"? They swear then sign the oath then violate the constitution. They have no fear of retribution so it continues. The public appears to be too ignorant to understand or care that these people have sworn to protect and defend our rights but have instead prostituted themselves for an ideology that ignores our basic law, the Constitution. What good is the oath if it has no teeth?
Citizens have the teeth. Time to bite back!
Who polices the lawless lawmakers. Each and everyone and including Mr.governor who has voted ,or failed to veto,to promulgate these violations of the Constitutions.
These violators need to be prosecuted,removed from office and jailed.
These very examples of the lawlessness out of Montpelier is the reason the founders wrote the 2 nd amendment.
Here is the source of the problem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_v._Sims
Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533 (1964), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled that the electoral districts of state legislative chambers must be roughly equal in population. Along with Baker v. Carr (1962) and Wesberry v. Sanders (1964), it was part of a series of Warren Court cases that applied the principle of "one person, one vote" to U.S. legislative bodies.
This was an unfair ruling in my opinion. The population of eaxh state is represented by the House of Representitives. The Senate is supposed to represent the state as a whole and should have equal political weight in each county by electing 2 senators from each county. Nothing will change in Vermont as long as Chittendon and Washington counties control 1/3 of the senate liberal vote. This is an important factor in what has happened in all states. Liberal populated cities controls the senate in each liberal run city in the country.
Stating again (see below)
I've been saying this for over a year now. Sen Benning proposed a bill to have 3 Senators form each county. I wanted two as per the US.
Noted in TNR article:
VT-New bills address guns, smoking age, background checks for homeschoolers and more
http://truenorthreports.com/statehouse-headliners-1-15-19
J Benning's bill:
S.11 limits senatorial districts to a maximum of three members, beginning 2022 General Election. Sens. Ashe, Benning, Sirotkin.(Chittenden County now has six seats.
With all due respect Tom, I'm sure those bills are dead in the water. The current senate is not going to vote on any bills that will reduce the power of the liberal ideology ruining Vermont. The citizens have been allowed no teeth other than the voting booth which has also been finagled to support liberals, IE allowing students from other states to vote.
CHenry says:
It's no hidden secret the anti-gun agenda of Liberals in Montpelier and for anyone who has
sat through a committee hearing with " Smug " Maxine Grad, can see it Front & Center, a
pretty shameful display ……..The " Holier Than Thou " Liberals……………….
I would hope we can find a way to hold legislators that try to circumvent the Constitution and
their "oath of office " for and agenda.
Hold there feet to the fire, vote them out !!
Hard to vote them out when Chittenden County controls who wins and who loses elections! Vermont needs an electoral college now!
Hard to vote them out when Chittenden County voters have a lock on who gets in office and who does not get in office. Vermont needs term limits and an state electoral college…NOW!
Michael, I wrote this in another gun control article: Rural areas all over the country are not being represented due to the urban populated cities that are more liberal. It's called taxation without representation. This was caused by a Warren Supreme court decision from the sixties. This needs to be addressed again by the court. The warren court was a liberal court. The decision to base the state senate on population duplicates the house of representatives and is not fair. The senate was meant to be the deliberative body originally designed to put controls on the house of representatives. The Supreme court decision changed the makeup of the senate and is now a rubber stamp for political means. A class action law suit by rural counties may have a chance of returning to the original intent of the senate which should be 2 senators from each county to represent all of the state not just the cities. As it stands now Chittendon and Washington Counties control the liberal 1/3 vote in the senate with 9 senators out of the total of 30. Counties have to be joined together and represented by one senator to meet the population requirement. This is a farce and a political tool for the left. We need to find an attorney to challenge the 60's Supreme Court ruling.
I'm not an attorney but their must be one out there who can start the ball rolling. Even Tim Ashe, Senate leader talked at one point about this problem, not that I trust him on anything. Sportsman's groups may also support this. We win nothing until the liberal power structure of the legislature is more fair to rural voters.
Another thought would be a petition movement in the rural counties. They are also sick and tired of the idiotic mandates coming from the City of Oz (Montpeculier) which is controlled by carpetbaggers, Social Justice warriors and the totalitarian progressives. Take Back Vermont!


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RavingLunatic 286 posts
Posted: 11th Jan 2002
Are you against the war in afghanistan, and against war in general?Well, I would like your help. please send an email to agressivepacifist@hotmail.com if you would like to contribute to an antiwar effort.thanks.------------------~whoosh whoosh whoosh~
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TanzenBRONZE Member
Location: Jacksonville, Florida USA
Posted: 11th Feb 2002
itsgottab...HAHAHA! This is quite ammusing. You should cease to post in this thread because you're making it quite obvious that you haven't a clue as to what you're talking about.First off, I don't smoke "God's herbs". Never have, and never will. It's illegal where I am. Since I use to be a military policeman, and have remained in law enforcement since exiting the military, smoking pot (or doing any illegal drugs) would make me a hipocrite...which I am not.Secondly, I'm not brainwashed...I just like a good fight. If there's a war, sign me up! HA! I only wish I could see the look on some of your peacenik faces after reading that.
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In all seriousness though, I've already explained (TWICE BEFORE...THIS WILL BE THE THIRD TIME FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO APPEARENTLY CAN'T READ), I think a peacefull solution is always the best solution. I only think war is neccessary when other means have been exhausted.As for the U.S. fighting in wars that have nothing to do with us...that's just a dumb comment on your part. The U.S. is biggest super power in the world...EVERYTHING has to do with us. HAHAHA! I like that!
Just a little humor there. However, the world better be damn happy that we fight wars that have "nothing to do with us" because if we didn't, then everyone in the pacific would be speaking Japanise and everyone in Europe would be speaking German. But, I can see you don't care to thank us...though, I'll say "your welcome" anyways just because I'm a good sport.
Tanzen------------------Ravers don't share glowsticks![This message has been edited by Tanzen (edited 11 February 2002).]
Ravers don't share glowsticks!
itsgottab...one other thing...in regard to my "social skills". I spent the past 6 1/2 years of my life living in the following countries: Germany, Italy, Bosnia, Kosovo, Croatia, and Hungary. That's not counting the time I spent in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait back in 1991. And, it's not counting all the countries that I have visited for a short period of time. So, I think it's YOU that have been secluded on your little island.As for Florida...yes, it's nice and hot here. I've gotten the chance to do a lot of surfing since comming back to where I was raised after being gone 11 years. As for what's "changed"...no, my haircut hasn't changed. Though, I can't begin to tell you what HAS changed. Want to know why? Because a noncombatant like yourself wouldn't even begin to understand what it's like.Tanzen------------------Ravers don't share glowsticks![This message has been edited by Tanzen (edited 11 February 2002).]
alteregoBRONZE Member
Location: Boulder, Co, USA
The first six Tomahawk missles fired into Afghanistan were launched from the USS Phillipine Sea. I sat 6 miles southwest of them on the forecastle of my ship (USS Dubuque, LPD 8) with a camera taking shots of the red streaks they briefly posed into the air. If anyone feels that allowing the Taliban or any other terrorist group have their way with no consequence is appropriate, I think you need to re-asses your viewpoint. Their are seldom points that come across such as innocent Afghan's being killed by stray missles, but had the United States let the Taliban be, which everyone knows would never happen, can you imagine the catastrophe's that would have occured by now? The Taliban had not only a vendetta against North America, but targets throughout the world. Their comes a point when being conservative must be pushed aside for some stringent action.Love always,Spanky
SunshineIf a person does not want to look at one topic from a different point of view it does not make them ignorant.
Actually, I quite disagree. Not searching a topic forwards and backwards could lead to a grave mistake on ones part. Reason being is simple. For every little personality quirk that you have, ever person that you pass on the street and disregard as a nobody and know nothing of their life have just as many. They divulge thoughts, have feelings, and fear death, just as you, yet in a different way. The world created around you was not created by you, but by many different people with many different points of view, leading to the global melting pot and cultural diversity the world now has. Only looking at things your way is a grave mistake.Love always,Spanky
DomBRONZE Member
Can we get off the rather cheap and lame personal attacks from both the peaceniks and army boys, like whether someone has changed or not or who smokes and who doesn't. Lets face facts, we don't know each other so can't really judge each other through these posts. Tanzen may be a narrow minded idiot, or his opinion is what he has derived from years of great experience. itsgottab may be a complete stoner, or he may be one of the majority of people who occasionally smoke. So, play nice children
Tanzen - "There's nothing that ticks me off more than peaceniks" Shame on us, trying to save lives! That f**king Jesus a-hole was a useless waster, and that bloody Martin Luther King, how annoying was he! Both of them should have just got an army together and killed people! No good every came of peace! Get me a gun!Talk is not cheap. Iran is undergoing reform (or was before the State of the Union speech). Why? Did anyone invade Iran or bombed a few thousand people to get there. No, they talked. Have you seen the mess Israel and Palestine are in? They're not talking. Go figure!Sure, thank's for WW2, we're not ungrateful. Countries help each other out all the time. But just don't go round acting like you personally put yourself out for no other reason than that you were wonderful enough to help us for nothing in return.Anyway Tanzen, I think that you've too much of a temper on you. Chill out
If you really don't want to discuss this with non-combatants, then don't! Stop posting. Simple.Ray - "I see Americans like you as traitors" ... "you should not have the right to trash your own country". Ray, you really should have moved to Taliban Afghanistan, but for now try somewhere like North Korea where freedom is more of a myth. I think I've said it before, constructive criticism of anything is a means to improve it. It's a fundamental tenet of democracy. It's surely more American to practice democracy and freedom of speech than want to withhold those rights. Therefore I could concur that ideologically that you are un-American, and Sundevil is the true American.The truth is, you're both as American as each other, both expressing your opinions. What a cool idea, everyone can have an opinion as long as it doesn't hurt someone else! You are in the army so one day you may have to fight to defend Sundevil's right to have that opinion, and also the KKK's opinion. In return Sundevil will pays taxes to pay your salary. If you don't like this, then leave the army.Spanky - You've short circuited slightly. "If anyone feels that allowing the Taliban or any other terrorist group have their way with no consequence is appropriate, I think you need to re-asses your viewpoint" 1) The terrorists are Al-Quaeda. The Taliban were just part of the '2 for 1' package the Americans took up on. 2) Nobody ever said we should sit back and do nothing and let them get away with it. Now read that point again, and again, write it out and remember it. I'm sick of people saying things like 'So you think they shouldn't be punished?!' Duh! No! Of course, but we'd rather it was done differently (e.g. more peacefully, or smaller and arab led military action).Spanky, you do however have a great point in your last post. Cool!End of the day, the US does do some great stuff involving itself in the world's affairs. It should do, so should all rich countries. And they all do. Look at Africa and developing countries, that's the real evil of the world. The fact that there are thousands of people needlessly dying today is a scar across the world. We eat McHappy meals, and they pick up every grain seed from the ground they can.As to the war front, we will just have to all agree to disagree, and accept each other's opinions as valid opinions, but not our own. OK?
A couple of good links which put the reaction to the US military spending quite well:Carl Bildt former Swedish Prime Minister. "The United States reserves the right to itself to wage war, and dumps on others the messy, expensive business of nation-building and peace keeping.""'Ostensibly,' says one European diplomat, 'this is about security. But quite how a massive increase in defence spending is supposed to prevent another terrorist attack remains unclear. Instead this seems to be about repairing the bruised American psyche after 11 September. America's powerlessness in the face of this attack requires big gestures and reassurances, even if they are counter-productive and meaningless."https://www.observer.co.uk/worldview/story/0,11581,648112,00.htmlAnd"In the interview the former Conservative party chairman delivers a devastatingly comprehensive critique of US strategy. He upbraids Washington for showing much more interest in stamping out terrorism than in tackling terror's root causes. 'When you're addressing that agenda, frankly, smart bombs have their place but smart development assistance seems to me even more significant,' he said. That view is widely held in Europe..."https://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4352929,00.htmlOh, and good example of how calling people evil tends to make them hate you more:"Men, women and children marched through Tehran, shouting: 'Our people are awake, and hate America'"https://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1813000/1813157.stmBut then you probably think a few bombs will set them right.[This message has been edited by -Dom- (edited 12 February 2002).]
HAHAHA! I care about what a former Swedish Prime Minister thinks. Now THAT'S funny!
-Dom-...as for telling me to "chill out", with being occasionally irritated by just a few comments from various people, I think I've been relaxed about the whole thing. Have you not picked up on the sarcasm and humor in my posts?As for why I get irritated by some of the comments...it's just because I have a low tolerance for peaceniks who think we should all smoke pot in a farmer's field while holding hands and find world peace by doing so.Just one other thing...why quote other people so much? Maybe it's just me, but I prefer to make my own quotes and speak for myself rather than having to resort to other peoples words. But, that might just be my American holier-than-thou thinking. HAHAHA!
Peace and phat beats,Tanzen------------------Ravers don't share glowsticks!
I've picked up on the sarcasm, but the way it's written and the way the non-sarcastic stuff is written displays evident anger.I quote other people to show that it's not just me saying this. It's providing evidence to support my claim that the rest of the world is beginning to wonder if Bush has gone completely mad. I state my own opinion as well."it's just because I have a low tolerance for peaceniks who think we should all smoke pot in a farmer's field while holding hands and find world peace by doing so." Sorry, but that's narrow minded ignorance. I can sit here and say "Everyone in the army is a brain washed, violent, testosterone overloaded jerk with a short haircut who only got into college with a wrestling scholarship." Due to the fact I'm educated and intelligent I don't make such assumptions.I'm a peacenik, and proud to be a peacenik! Get me a peacenik T-Shirt! However, if you ever see me in a field smoking pot, you're on acid! One reason I quote other people is to show that conservative politicians are thinking the same as a hippy in a field, it's now the majority view.A lot of Americans don't seem to care what anyone else thinks. It's an arrogance that many don't like.
Code128 69 posts
Location: Boston, MA USA
Ok so now 6 pages into this I think it might be the time to do a recap. What have we all learned? Has anyone changed their mind about anything? Here is what i have learned:Dom is fun to argue with, he backs up his thoughts with cogent points and sources for other people to look at. Dom doesnt belong in the military, people like Raymond and Tanzen do. I am happy for this, lets not forget that the express role of the military is to carry out their orders, I think there may be an addendum to that to the effect of when moral, is that right military guys?Other than that I still think killing people is wrong, war is sometimes neccessary and its very tough to get different people to agree on what is right and what is wrong.Code128"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be to eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends"Anyone care to guess on that quote?
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Nice summation Code 128!That's a very good quote! The quote is from Tolkien, said by Gandalf in Lord of the Rings.
Oh and I have to bring this up because its just absolutely ridiculous. During the Super Bowl a new series of AntiDrug ads was started stating that if you buy drugs than you might be supporting Terrorists. Which I suppose you could make a case for, but really now. Dude, you got to try this bud its Al_Kinda.Ha! You know there are easy ways to fix that problem, legalize, Tax, and no more problem, no more accidental overdoses from people who dont know the strength or the ingredients that they put into their bodies, and lots of money coming into the Goverment and not going to people operating outside of the law, does anyone remember Prohibition? ( Thats an American experiment with making alchol production illegal which was a big failure for a couple of years) And for anyone who is Anti-Drugs, really if you step back and think about it, its not your decision what anyone wants to do with their time.If you like to have a beer, or a glass of wine, or a cigarrette or an Aspirin, or you like to Ski-Dive, or Exercise for hours, run marathons pretty much anything you can think of you are altering the chemicals in your body to create a changed state. Whats the difference how you achieve the change?Code128Oh and there seems to be something wrong with the Date/Time stamp on all of my messages. Why is it telling the time from somewhere other than here?[This message has been edited by Code128 (edited 12 February 2002).]
God, don't go into drugs here as well! Anyway, another post, because I just got this in the mail:Adapted from Monty Python's Life of Brian.REG: They've bled us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers' fathers. LORETTA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers. REG: Yeah. LORETTA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers. REG: Yeah. All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have the Americans ever given us in return?! XERXES: The PC? REG: What? XERXES: The PCREG: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah. COMMANDO #3: And the Mac. LORETTA: Oh, yeah, the Mac, Reg. Remember what pasting up used to be like? REG: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the PC and the Mac are two things that the Americans have done. MATTHIAS: And the Internet. REG: Well, yeah. Obviously the Internet. I mean, the Internet goes without saying, don't it? But apart from the PC, the Mac, and the Internet-- COMMANDO: Jeans. XERXES: The car. COMMANDOS: Huh? Heh? Huh... COMMANDO #2: Movies. COMMANDOS: Ohh... REG: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough. COMMANDO #1: And proper coffee. COMMANDOS: Oh, yes. Yeah... FRANCIS: Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss, Reg, if the Americans left. Huh. COMMANDO: Rock and roll. LORETTA: And it's safe to watch comedies on Channel 4 on Friday night now, Reg. FRANCIS: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this. COMMANDOS: Heh, heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh. REG: All right, but apart from the PC, the Mac, Internet, Jeans, The car, movies, proper coffee, and Friday night Channel 4 sitcoms, what have the Americans ever done for us?
toneman 195 posts
Air planes??globalization??sorry, I couldn't resist...
Raymund Phule (Fireproof) 2,905 posts
Location: San Diego California
Dom, first of all good hearing form you again I started to miss your posts, now onto the topic.I do not feel that anyone should restrict anyone elses freedome of speech, but I think there is a huge lack of respect going out for those willing to laydown their life so that people can continue to have that freedome. Constructie critisisim is good, frankly that is what makes a good man better. But what alot of people like Sundevil do is not constructive, it is out right bitching. They have no desire to do anything real to change things. Except bitch. You talk about world hunger, what about the homless in some of "our" cities. People here have said that America should just up and pay the worlds food ticket but then again, they pass right over the homeless like they didn't exist. Constructive critisism = Good, Bitching = Bad. On the Tax issue I pay taxes to pay my salery!! Didnt ever think of that did ya. More laters.
Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"
Makeing drugs leagle wont stop crime and ODs. Did allowing alcohol stop dwi deaths and countless people being killed due to some drunk and a car. Hell no it didnt. Personally I feel that we need to take the war on drugs in a different direction. I think that stiffer punishments would be best. I think that America should follow Singapore's example PUBLIC CAINING!!! I can not think of a better deturent than the threat of haveing your naked ass whipped with a pole in full view of anyone who wants to tune in and watch. Also it should be an act of terrorisim to bring or grow/make drugs into/in America. That punishment would be death. I think that the best way to admister the punishment on that accorde would be disembowlement. Make it so the penalty is so stiff that nobody would want to risk it. Heck after the first few I think that people would start to get the point, but then again mankind (P.C. womankind
) is generally thick headed. I think for S&G that I should start an anti drug topic. (Lets see how long till a moderator closes it.) About your time stamp, are you in central time zone? If not then it is showing central time, if so then Malcome needs to send a word or two to the people who are responsible for the codeing of this forum.Personally , Dom, I think that America has give millions of people a second chance by opening our borders also we have sent millions of dollars of aid to people all accross the world. Amerian military personell did do alot of damage to places like vietnam, but we have also done alot of good.Personally (about the recap) peoples minds have change, I for one know this as fact because my mind has gone through some change. Personaly I feel that I am a little slower to react and alittle more prompt to listen. My debate style is slowly changing I am starting to reserch and back up my posts (enphisis on slowly).
The only other thing that I have to disagree with on your summery is that I do not feel that killing is wrong, murder is and there is a difference a very very fine line but none the less kill and murder is different. Murder is wrong and killing is justified, either by the justice system or PROPER military orders.Ohh Dom why should I, as an American, care what you think? It maybe arrogence but then agian I just dont care. Fortunatly for you and others of your sort, that is not the view of all Americans just my generation!
[This message has been edited by Raymund Phule (edited 12 February 2002).]
Code128...I agree with some of what you wrote above...especially that -Dom- is fun to debate with.
Yes, I did belong in the military. It was "in" me, so to speak. Just to clearify to all you non-military people, soldiers do not have the right to think for themselves. It's just not the way the military works (or not the U.S. military anyways). We receive our orders from officers and, under the direction of non-commissioned officers, we carry them out. If a soldier questions an order, then that's a violation of the UCMJ (Uniformed Code of Military Justice) and they can face a number of punishments...to include jail.Much like the American political system, the military has a checks and balance system. The military officers who give orders, receives their orders from civilians (the Secretary of Defense, the President, etc). Those civilians are elected by the citizens of the United States.Perhaps people like me should be locked in a large glass cage with a message reading "Break in case of war."
When I say things like "you won't understand because you've never served in the military", I mean it...and you should hope you never have to understand. I don't think you would like to spend months in the desert with no running water and only one hot meal a day (if that), while being separated from your family. I don't think you want to know what sort of physical and mental hardships we (as soldiers) go through. And you not knowing is fine by me. I don't expect you to know. You not knowing is not your fault. I choose to be a soldier...it was my "calling" so to speak.I'll go ahead and quote a poem that was written by an unknown author. It's about a military policeman and may shed some insite in what I did.SUPPORTING THE THREE"I am the infantry. Follow me.Not a foot soldier, we're much more you see.We'll take the fight to the enemy.I am the infantry, first of the three.""I am the cavalry. Follow me.A modern horse soldier in a bradley.Charging straight forward to the enemy.I am the cavalry, most daring of the three.""I am the armor, follow me.The arm of decision I'll always be.When the going get rough, call on me.I am the armor, the best of the three."Armor, cavalry, and infantryrush headlong into the melee.Breaking the lines like an angry seadeep into ememy territory."Approaching a crossroads what do we see?The are secured by two loney MPs.Directing us forward, how can this be?How long has he been here waiting for me?""What a crazy person an MP must be.He has no firepower or armor like me.And I thought everyone followed the three.Armor, cavalry, and infantry.""I am the MP, don't follow me.You don't want to be where I will be.Guarding the crossroad waiting for the three.Just my partner, a sixteen, a sixty, and me.""With the objective taken, wait and see.No one will remember the lonely MP.Who held this ground so they could run free.But that's my job - supporting the three.Glossary for words you may not know...Cavalry - tank soldiersBradley - type of tankSixteen - automatic rifleSixty - crew served machine gun (think Rambo)Tanzen------------------Ravers don't share glowsticks!
Oh...one more thing...notice I said soldiers don't have the "right" to think for themselves. That's not to say that we "can't" think for ourselves in the absence of orders. Just means that our missions and such are not decided by us. We don't say "let's go charge up that hill right there", that's decided by officers. However, if all the officers are dead, then we'd be on our own...and do everything possible to accomplish the mission at hand. There are two basic things that come first in the military...accomplishment of the mission and the welfare of the soldiers. Notice which is first.Tanzen------------------Ravers don't share glowsticks!
Ray, I think you bring up an issue common to those serving in the military when faced with a peacenik. I personally hold no grudge or hate against people in the military. Hey, my best friend served as an officer in the Gurkhas (he says he was too short to join any other regiment!). As an aside he thinks the Afghani action was misguided. We've got pretty similar views generally.Generally a peacenik isn't somebody who says 'I hate the people in the army', they're saying 'I hate killing' or 'I disagree with the policies that control the army'. However, like all people, peace protesters can become very het up about things they feel passionate about and the two become blurred. If a peace movement stops a war the people who won't get killed are the army. If they hated you they're be trying to send you to your death as much as possible
So when someones says 'Stop war', don't take it as a disrespect to you.If you think someone's just bitching and not being helpful then it helps to not bitch back and instead try to draw them into a discussion, not a bitching session."why should I, as an American, care what you think? It maybe arrogence but then agian I just dont care." Surely it's not the fact that someone's American that they're bloody minded, arrogance is a very common human trait found in every country in the world. But, you know Ray, you read the posts, I read yours, so we do care what each other thinks even if we don't agree
Oh, the timestamp is New Zealand time, so only makes sense there.
being an American, I am torn.Surely the world cannot survive on Capitalism. What capitalism creates and fuels is consumerism. If we consume everything we can, what will we have left? We, as Americans, have profited endlessly from capitalism. It's what brought us to power. It made us rape and plunder "developing" countries to our benefit. It's what makes everyone hate us so much. It's not that we have everything, that everyone dislikes, it's that we're SO materialistic, and would do anything to advance that thought process. Look at our neighbors to the south. Just a few hundred miles from me, there are people that have only 1 light, live in a hut, no running water, no sanitation, very little food and very little hope of getting a leg up. That's not our problem, you say. If they want something bad enough, they'll go get it. Unfortunately, they've already got several marks against them. It's hard to make it out of a hole if EVERYONE keeps pushing you back in it. Mexico's rulers keep pushing their people back in, to keep themselves rich, because we keep paying them TONS of money to keep our manufacturing costs down. Americans look down on Mexicans as being lazy and ignorant. Our people hate them for trying to sneak into our country to do work that most people abhor. And yet, there's the American contradiction. We have the attitude that if they want something bad enough, they'll go get it, but when they try to come get it here, we kick the shit out of them after they risk their life walking through the desert with no water. I don't wonder why people hate us.Here is why I'm torn. I see all of this, and think that it's wrong. Plain out wrong. But here I am with my nice car, $100k house, good job for a company that has more capital than most developing country's budget. An easy life. I don't struggle or worry about where my food's going to come from. I don't grow it. I buy it. I buy everything. I fit in the capitalist regime perfectly. What do I do to change? Do I turn my back on the way things are done, and become someone with no means to change society and politics, other than my example? OR do I try to accel at making money in a capitalistic market, consuming and raping on the way to get the means(money) to change politics?Perhaps if we can tackle this problem, we'll find an equitable solution for everyone. Until then, we'll continue to have terrorism, and wars and hate and greed.BTW, what are you buying for your Significant other for Valentine's day? Were you aware the holiday was a marketing gimmick? Everyday is valetine's day. Appreciate the one you love every morning when you wake up, and thank god you're alive to do so...Peacetony
MusicMinded 10 posts
I kinda agree with you Toneman. I think it's sad to see how materialistic the Western civilization is. But although people in say South America do not have all this, doesn't make them less happy. I think as long as they have their basics (food, shelter) they're better off in a way. They don't have that much of a rat race, no stress. People are looking up to the US or Europe. They think this life would make them happier, but if you see the life they're leading they seem happier. They share, people out here are materialistic to an extent they get depressed if they cannot HAVE or BUY for themselves. I think this cancer is inside us. I just get sick of all the needless non-functional stuff people around me are buying just to satisfy themselves. I've been away from it for a while, but once you're back in Western atmospheres you automatically tend to get back into the consumer circus again. Although I can say no to some things now...Pure capitalism is just f*cking us up anyway. Our companies are plundering the 3rd worlds natural reserves. Just to make sure we get better from it. They won't profit from it. Just the people we pay off to let us do it. We're selling them weapons which will make them start civil wars and act out genocide. Meanwhile our politicians are raising thier fingers like a teacher and telling them not to fight. How many people are being murdered everyday with the weapons we sell to regimes, while knowing they will kill innocent people with them. And if they turn on us we will make sure we will totally wiped them out.As for the US. I kinda get pissed of by the way the US government threats the rest of the world. Since it's an economic and military superpower the US can force anyone to do as they want it. Although a lot of Americans don't seem to notice, the rest of the world thinks your president is a big nutcase. A puppet on the strings of the people who financed his campaign. Greatest democracy my ass. And yes, it does affect us a lot. Just the way the US forces Europe to accept certain policies or products pisses me off. US foreign policy is only focused on one thing: their own gain. Bending the rules a bit if necessary. It doesn't surprise me people are conducting terrorist acts since for them it's the only way to hit back. Bush make's sure the military gets loads of money, but doesn't even look at what causes the hate against the US, a f*cked up foreign policy. For the record. I do not hate Americans. The ones i met where really nice and intelligent people, haven't met W yet though ;-). Later MM
No need to be void,...Or save up on life,...Got to spend it all,...
Ugh...if there's anything I hate more than peaceniks, it's discussing capitalism.
Tanzen------------------Ravers don't share glowsticks!
Awesome post toneman..just thought i'd post this link, many may have seen it already i guess..https://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,648784,00.htmlalso, i heard there could be more attacks in the US today.. anything happened?------------------~whoosh whoosh whoosh~
Tanzen, as much as I dislike your ideology, I love your personality!
Without you and Raymond, we'd all be peacniks
It's so much nicer to debate issues when you keep things light-hearted. I do understand that can be difficult at times though since we're discussing issues that some of us obviously feel strong about.Tanzen"My idea of gun control is TWO hands on my .357 Magnum."
------------------Ravers don't share glowsticks!
Music, I agree with your sentiments about robbing their resources, creating internal animosity, then arming them to the teeth. The US IS the world's largest arms supplier. For Tanzen and Raymond's benefit, at least we're giving them 30-40 year old weapons. Of course, I guess that would matter if we would land our planes instead of just flying over...
What you think we are going to give a country a stealth? Maybe an Osprey or one of those flying lawn darts!
First and foremost, I have never called anyone a peacenik, hell I never even heard of the word untill Tanzen brought it up.Dom think of it this way and you might see why I would get angry. You are the owner of one of the lower ranked but obviusly the best (heck lets just use a populer thing around here) Poi manufacture. You are in a bit of finachile grief so to speak. The lagest Poi manufature is starting to do a hostile take over of your company. They are basicly getting rid of what you love and what you love to do. Would you not get a little pissed off? Personally that is what I feel people who speak out against the military are doing. It makes me angry it makes me frustrated that they are against the people that are willing to protect them. I would like for them to spend one night on the "Wall" and see if they feel the same way afterwords.About finding an equitable solution to all the worlds problems... you cant. You can not raise up country A without country B getting angry and trying to start something over it. America lacks the man-power and the equipment to feed the world, ohh we have the food and the money, I am pretty sure of that. The only way that I can see us (America) getting rid of world hunger without causeing WWIII is to get every person in every province of every contry at the same exact time. Just as an example; Country A and country B are getting some food now country A and B are bitter rivals. The cargo plane going to the muslim country gets grounded for some dumb reason (it is broken) and cant get off the ground. There will be alot of people in Country A pissed off at America because they gave aid to a rival country first. Then we have more planes flying into buildings. Ohh about the attack that was supposed to hapapen on Tuesday, there is no proof that a certain terrorist is in the us nore is there any proof that that terrorist is not in America.Unfortunaly for right now capitalism is what makes the world go round. If you are a consumer your a capitalist.My idea of guncontrole is proper sight alignment and a slow steady trigger squeeze. I would rather have a Mk 19 or a M2 .50 HB Machingun!
Toneman for some possible answers to your Capitalist life questions see the movie or read the book "Fight Club"That very question is the heart of the story.And drugs are bad, people who "do" drugs are bad and should be killed. Thanks Code128
interesting analogy to fight club..me and my friend had an idea the other day, we were going to make a fight club for real..if someone comes up to you, and asks "have you seen fight club" then you punch them right in the face!brilliant eh?*sigh*------------------~whoosh whoosh whoosh~
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Just a hypothetical question: Would we need guns/armies etc if we had no borders?[This message has been edited by Ade (edited 13 February 2002).]
Ade, when you think about it, in a perfect world if we didn't have borders then no we would have no need for an army. Unfortunately this is not a perfect world. People hate others due to skin color, religion ethnic background, staff or Poi
and the list goes on. People of one religion would live together and more than likely people of one skin color would live together. I am not saying that either of those is right or wrong, but it is just how things turn up. Why do you think that high schools worldwide have cliques. And when you go to a 6th grade dance the girls are on one side and the boys the other. We like to be with people of our own kind. Good point to say the least good initiative bad judgment.I never said that people who use drugs should be killed just that their punishment would be public and embarrassing.PAGE 7 :P[This message has been edited by Raymund Phule (edited 13 February 2002).]


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Cool Beans. You do you kid! Plaid on plaid could very well become a trend in the near future so maybe he knows something I don't.
There are many, many things that motherhood has taught me but one big one is that you have to roll with the punches, pick your battles and laugh it off.
I could have entered into a huge battle with Cohen this morning about changing his shorts, lecturing on the proper way to dress nicely and yada, yada, yada. But did I want to change THE WHOLE course of our day over an article of clothing?! Plus, the argument would have wiped his proud little independent smile right off his face, and as I watched him strut down the street in his mismatched plaid I just had to chuckle.
In the land of Motherhood, you can either struggle and strive and stress all day trying to keep up with everyone else, or you can DO YOU! It would be really easy to blame it on the world and it's pressures, but at the end of the day, you are the one who held yourself to unrealistic expectations. Don't get me wrong, those pressures to be and do and appear are strong and I have fallen to them numerous times, but I'm also the mom who forgot shoes for school pick up one day. I decided to own it and walked my barefooted self proudly down the hall.
And all these moments, these mismatched plaid moments are the ones we will remember with fondness and a laugh for years and years to come!
*Today at our MOPs group, we had a fireman come and give a fire safety talk and I was in charge of writing the blog post for the talk so I thought I might as well post it on here!
One vital thing that I learned being a mother, was to be prepared. Always. For anything. My diaper bags were always packed for every occasion or mishap. First aid, extra clothes, diversion toys and extra flip flops were always on hand. Sure there were days where I forgot something, but worst case scenario, we could easily live for a week on the Gold Fish crackers under the seats of my car. But that's just it, I've always been ready for the small case scenarios. A child just peed all over himself and you? No worries, I have extra clothes. That crack that jumped out and scraped your knee? I've got a bandaid. Oh, sure we can go inside that super nice restaurant for lunch with our 3 small tired children because I have ipads educational toys and snacks!
But when it comes to the large scary worst case scenarios, I've always had the mindset of "Yes, fire safety and all that is important. We'll get to it one day and plus it'll never happen to us." But then all it takes is that one time and you're suddenly a part of the "It happened to us" club. When it's simply a trip down to the hardware store and a totally fun family meeting, and you're prepared to save lives! Yeah, ok. I get it. I've been lazy. Thank you Father God that the worst we have had to handle was a few choking incidents, and those were easily solved with a swooping of the throat and a little baby back slapping!
Fast forward a couple years, and our family decides that we are going to start our adoption journey. As I read through our requirements and household safety regulations, I become panicked. How have my children survived thus far without knowing how to properly do CPR, chemical cupboard locks, special detectors and a fire extinguisher!? We are a living time bomb for disaster! As we have gone through the classes and paperwork, I realize that these truly are simple things to invest in. A Saturday afternoon of prep and my family can rest easy, knowing they are safe. My husband and I are now certified CPR super heros, we are working on our family escape route, buying a fire extinguisher, replacing all the detector batteries, teaching the kids the correct time to call 911 and praying to our heavenly Father that none of it has to be used!
Why not as mothers do everything we can (in a sane and acceptable way…don't bubble wrap your child) to be completely prepared to keep our families safe and alive! I pray that Dale's talk didn't fall on deaf ears and that we all went home and at least thought about what we would do in case of an emergency.
Motherhood. It is not for the faint of heart.
As you know, I have two boys…Two very boyish boys who love to battle and roar and shoot things and go fast and throw rocks and protect the damsel in distress (when she's not engaging them in battle first). But dang if sometimes I need a break from all that testosterone running, slamming and conducting epic battles around my home. Listen, I'm not going to bash any of the boys being boys stuff…I love it, and at anytime during the day if you walk into my house, I'm usually armed with my own weapons incase of a sneak attack.
So I collected our arsenal of weapons and bullets and swords and shields and ninja spikes and plastic brass knuckles (?!) and tucked them happily away. I expect a riot and some gnashing of teeth, but I think they'll get over it, and maybe just maybe play peacefully (for a moment) with some of the other amazing toys we have that always take backseat to the weapons.
Now, if they want to create some fantastic weapon out of Legos or some random stick they find in the gutter, or their piece of toast, HAVE AT IT. But for 3 days there will be no pre-made weapons available in the Hill home. After the 3 days are up, I expect a quite epic battle to take place, one in which I will most likely partake (Shooting your children with soft Nerf bullets is actually quite satisfying 🙂 ) But until that day, we will be enjoying a little less blood guts and glory. Mothering boys is not for the faint of heart that is for sure!


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Q: background image property not being set properly following this example
http://teethgrinder.co.uk/open-flash-chart/gallery-bg-image.php
I'm trying
import com.extjs.gxt.charts.client.model.ChartModel

ChartModel cm = new ChartModel(graphTitle, "color: #738995;font-weight: bold;font-size: 20px; font-family: arial; text-align: left;");
 cm.setBackgroundColour("ffffff");

 cm.set("bg_image", "http://teethgrinder.co.uk/open-flash-chart/images/logo.png");
 cm.set("bg_image_x","right");
 cm.set("bg_image_y","top");

without the bg_image(_x,_y) bit everything works
with the bit it throws
(String): Error calling method on NPObject! [plugin exception: Error in Actionscript. Use a try/catch block to find error.].
ChartModel cm = getChartModel(dataSet);
        try {
           this.setChartModel(cm);
        } catch (Exception ex)
        {
         GWTMessageHandler.handleInfoMessage(
         "Message ="+ex.getMessage()+
         "Cause = "+ex.getCause()+
         "getLocalizedMessage = "+ex.getLocalizedMessage()+
         "StackTrace="+ex.getStackTrace());
        }

returns Message =(String): Error calling method on NPObject! [plugin exception: Error in Actionscript. Use a try/catch block to find error.].Cause = nullgetLocalizedMessage = (String): Error calling method on NPObject! [plugin exception: Error in Actionscript. Use a try/catch block to find error.].StackTrace=[Ljava.lang.StackTraceElement;@2ff

A:
EDIT:
It sounds like the interaction between JavaScript and ActionScript is being hindered by security constraints.  Try this security adjustment.

wrap your code in a try/catch block like this and see what it's trying to tell you:
try{
    ChartModel cm = new ChartModel(graphTitle, "color: #738995;font-weight: bold;font-size: 20px; font-family: arial; text-align: left;");
    cm.setBackgroundColour("ffffff");

    cm.set("bg_image", "http://teethgrinder.co.uk/open-flash-chart/images/logo.png");
    cm.set("bg_image_x","right");
    cm.set("bg_image_y","top");
} catch(err:Error) {
    trace("name: " + err.name);
    trace("message: " + err.message);
    trace("problem code: " + err.getStackTrace());
}

Without fiddling with the code, my first guess would be that the following lines should take numbers instead of strings:
cm.set("bg_image_x","200"); //instead of "right"
cm.set("bg_image_y","0"); //instead of "top"