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On air: Have you lost the argument if protests turn violent?
Categories: First thing, Human rights, Morality and Terrorism
Tags: G20, Pakistan, protests, rescued
"If I'm surrounded by police, then I shouldn't be there".
This was posted on our blog last night by Mark, a British soldier, after a video emerged of an apparently unprovoked attack by riot police on a man at last week's G20 protests. The man now died and there are calls for an inquiry into the police's actions. (Read Mark's full post here) It comes after a very busy 24 hours for riot police across the globe. In Moldova they've regained control of the country's parliament after it was stormed by protestors unhappy with the results of the weekend's election. In Thailand thousands of protestors are back on the streets again, this time they want to get rid of the country's Prime Minister.
Police are often accused of heavy-handedness in many countries (usually those with the strongest democracies), but how far should protests be allowed to go? If your protest turns violent have you lost the argument?
Some people would argue that in certain circumstances violence is the only way to get a point across — the ANC in South Africa in their fight against apartheid is a good example. It was only when they adopted violent, guerilla methods that their fight against racist oppression started to be won.
What about violence against property? Occupying buildings, or graffiti? If people aren't being hurt, is that okay?
And what about in repressive countries where peaceful protest isn't allowed? Is there ever a case where violence is a legitimate method of protest?
74 Responses to "On air: Have you lost the argument if protests turn violent?"
1 peter g
When this man died, BBC TV and radio (where most of us get our news from) barely mentioned it, except in passing. Only the WHYS blog did. I remember looking around for info on it and the only place there was anything worth reading was the Guardian, who are the ones who have unearthed this footage.
While you thought this guy was 'just a protestor', his death wasn't worth investigating. You took the police's word for it that the only contact they had with him was trying to save his life. A week later it's finally worth a mention. I am disgusted by BBC "journalism".
2 Mari
Riot police are not nice people, wherever you are in the world. And protestors, just by the act of demonstrating against whatever it is, are not 'fair play'.
Ros talked about whether it is ok to use violence to achieve your aims (on WHYS TV) the other day. Surely the same finger wagging should apply to police as well as civilians?
Even if one person, or 100 get violent, that doesn't make it ok for the security forces to get beat them or anyone else. The rule of law is supposed to apply: the police aren't allowed to baton a violent criminal (they can subdue him/her with approved techniques) on any other day, so why can they do it with impunity in a protest situation?
Any halfwit knows that the G20 were not particularly violent and all but a small minority felt perfectly safe and calm the entire day. It's only when they got home to watch the news did they become aware that they were in fact 'violent' protests.
s beating a passer by with his hands in his pocket "Doing their job" mark? I appreciate that it is not easy for the police in many situations (in my local area for instance), but does that absolve the police officer who pushed this man to the ground?
Because you have signed away your right to protest and speak, does that mean i don't have that right either?
"but if I am surrounded by police, I should not be there. "
And by your logic, if the police are there in force, then my right to have my say in my own country (where i pay taxes and contribute to this economy with my hard work) is automatically null? THEY decide what I can do?
4 Dennis Okumu
'If am surrounded by police, i shouldn't be there'. yeah you dem right,
am saddened by the death of this man, and who ever had a hand in it shouldn't be left to go scot free,
my sympathy goes out to those of us who love crouds. and whenever they here of a demo, they can't wait to hit the streats.
you know, as much as we aught to press the politicians with such demos so they listen to us, we should as well be brave enough to know when we are fighting a loosing battle, which would be better if not fought.
am not entirelly blaming the sherif for the man's death, if we look well enough, we'll see that things really get messy in such like charged up demo.and in the attempt to prevent an escallation, anything can happen.
the sheriff could mess you up in a demo, but lets not forget that they are working on oders, and trying to do thier job, which is to ensure law and order is observed. in other words, they are only trying to keep their jobs.
think about it, will yeah?
whenever you are walking across a poorly lite street, and you have that nagging feeling that you are valnarable, and you are just about to be magged, and then the next being you see, is a police on patrol,
lets be honest. you breath a sigh of relife. infact even those of us who never say hellow to the sheriff will easily say it with a broad smile.
oky,
my point is,
in such like instances, lets not just bash the police and condemn then like they are a bad ommen.
the nitty-grittys of the who authorised what, who slagged in their duty, who overreacted and so on and so forth. will make a better case.
by this i mean, the government and the NGO bosses involved.
and by the way,
have you noticed that in such demos, you never see the activites being stumbled upon by both the crowns or the police.
maybe its because they know the danger ahead and opt to play it safe.
only they keep forgetting to worn others of the possible repercussions. not that it will change a thing, but just so they know.
5 gary
The intelligence of a group (i.e. its ability to decide and agree actions based upon current data) varies as the reciprocal of its size. This relationship applies to mobs of all kinds; police and protesters included. This fact, coupled with the tendency of individuals in a coherent group to assign responsibilities for the behaviors of an opposing group to any one member of that group, often leads to a violent outcome. That this occurs in societies that honor freedom of assembly should shock no one. The important lesson here is that free societies should strive to address important issues (the economic climate being a good example of importance) early, and in ways that insure fair consideration of the greatest number of members of the society. A man died; a man killed him. Better control of financial practices would have allowed each to go home to his loving family at ease. One cannot "fix" human nature; but many of the causes for folks going off the rails can be repaired. It is here efforts should be focused.
6 Iddi Musyemi
This is a hard one! Iam just thinking how an argument turns to protest. First there is chestbeating, then taking hard stands, one side calls the mass to the street to show off some kind of a power and popular support, then the other side sends in police to quell the protests and "restore order by all means." All the while the scheme of the thing has been orchestrating violence, and that is what an "argument" begets!
It reminds me "Mass action" in Kenya after the botched elections. What was the argument in the first place?
7 Steve in Boston
I watched the video, and I do not believe that was an unprovoked attack. Tomlinson was obviously the looking to provoke a confrontation. He was clearly told to leave the scene and had a dozen police calmly escorting him away him. He was lallygagging, stalling, trying to impede the police, and asking for a beating. In a large demonstration like that, the police have no duty to start treating each of the thousands of protesters with kid gloves. He got what he was looking for, and now the anarchists are using a video clip whic–shows virtually nothin–to try to tear down the structure of law and order.
If you live in a democracy, there is no excuse for violence, and it should not be tolerated. You change the system by voting, and if the majority doesn't agree with you, tough luck. That doesn't give you the right to destroy property or hurt people.
The police need to step up their game against the protesters, otherwise they are only encouraged. It's clear what the protesters want to do–they want to provoke news footage of the police acting like Nazis. It's a propaganda war. At some point however the police are going to have to bring out the tear gas, dogs, and live ammunition, or lose control of the situation.
8 Patrick Lockyer
There is always the potential for violence when a group gathers and there will always those who love/like violence. No one expects it to result in death. There is little likelehood in a death occuring moslty but lets not get it out of perspective. This is not like the racial stuff of Alabama where the National Guard are on 'lock and load'. Britain has a great police force mostly. What I don't understand is where a populace turn a blind eye to 'heavy handedness' and there is lots of that in the USA. A woman tased and chained to a chair for being loud and obnoxious and left to die right there? A guy got naked in Pensacola and banging his head against shop windows filled with lead for being 'disturbed'? A guy in Jax on his own doorstep trying to get rid of druggies gunned down by 'undercover' cops' who don't see it 'his way'? Thank your lucky stars Britain?
9 Roy, Washington DC
Not necessarily, but you sure aren't going to help your cause with violence. Once you resort to name-calling or violence, you have given up on intelligent discussion, and you are trying to impose your views by brute force.
10 Jodie in Virginia
Three points:
1. I heard an interview on World Service last week during which an expert stated that the majority who collect to demonstrate do so with peaceful intent, however, there are a few who are purposefully looking for trouble and mix in with the peaceful majority in order to cause harm / disruption / chaos. This makes sense, and therefore it also makes sense that the majority needs to take charge of their demonstration in order to assure it is peaceful. When violence is reported, shown on TV, etc. the general public does not say, "oh it's just a few". Everyone participating and every cause they represent are besmirched by the violence.
2. Public gatherings are a hallmark of democracy. Those who love democracy will honor this right peacefully and they will assure that it is not abused by a minority of rabble-rousers. Police are committed to assure the public peace… so long as a demonstration is peaceful, police nerves are calm and the demonstrators can make their case without worry.
3. The only demonstrations I have seen work in my lifetime have been in the Gandhi / King art of peaceful protest. In order for this to work, there must be cameras / news media to document the numbers of marchers and the peacefulness of their action (and to show that any violence comes from the police, if there is violence). This requires a lot of organization, practice to remain disciplined, and a deep commitment to one's cause.
The idea that the ANC's incompetent campaign of comedy terrorism affected the apartheid regime is risible.
Violence is often justified, though it should be a last resort. The Poll Tax Riots against Mrs Thatcher were justified. Here was a government imposing a policy on the nation that the bulk of the people were passionately opposed to. Only violent demostrations – including an attempt to storm Downing Street – brought the government to its senses: the poll tax was subsequently abandoned. The police took a good beating on that occasion, and deserved to.
If I were to push a police officer over, and a few minutes later he was dead of a heart attack, the police would rightly charge me with murder. This man (who was not even a demonstrator, just an office worker returning home) was killed by a police officer. Manslaughter certainly; perhaps even murder. In future protestors will be justified in using pre-emptive violence to protect themselves against our increasingly lawless & criminal police (Menezes). Governments & the police should always be in fear of the people, not the other way round. If it takes violence to get that message across, then very well. They are our servants.
12 archibald in Oregon
Violence should never be the goal, but, violence does occur when you have opposing groups sharing a common space with two totally different agendas. Unfortunately, and in many cases, the police are against the demonstrators on an ideological level, because, the people who pay police salaries or have some say in their overall prosperity are the ones being protested, directly or indirectly.
Let us not forget that those who choose to be police are not all the good samaritans society perceives them to be and by the same token, not all protesters are interested in doing good deeds. In fact, most protests that go wrong are usually fueled by marginal elements and minor skirmishes which affect everyone and the ways in which they react.
That said, I have never seen a protest where the police and/or the peacekeeping force were peaceful, quite the contrary. In contrast, I have never seen a people wearing a bandanas in broad daylight who were minding their own business either, maybe it was the tear gas……..
13 Anthony
No way! That is how revolutions are started! Sometimes it's NEEDED to get your point across. I think that 9/11 was a type of protest, and they sure did get their points across.
-Anthony, LA, CA
14 Matt in Oregon
Yes. Whether its in London for the G20 or Seattle for the WTO, when these protests turn violent not only do they lose their credibility but also the news story about the protest revolves around the violence and vandalism and not what may have been legitimate criticisms.
Here in the US at least, there is a sort of anarchist "underground" that goes to these protests simply because they can riot and vandalize with relative impunity and anonymity.
They ruin what could otherwise have been a succesfull demonstration with real concerns about whatever they are protesting.
15 Kaisa Heikkilä
Two important things should be looked at.
The first is that riot police often acts more violent against nonviolent direct action. This could be seen for example during the G20, where the climate camp was roughly evicted by riot police and snatch squats.
The second thing is that when one looks at history nonviolent protest often has no result at all. Some years ago for example there were some huge demonstrations against government regulations. The highways and public transport were totally clogged. This had no effect, while at the same time a couple of hundred squatters gained what they wanted by throwing just a couple of bricks. It is sad but true, sometimes the people will have to use violence (or threats of violence) against there governments when something has to change.
16 Tom D Ford
"If your protest turns violent have you lost the argument?"
That is too sweeping a generalization.
My country, the USA, was founded through violent protests that our Founders then turned into the Revolution of 1776 to extremely violently change the government from subservience to King George to our government that President Lincoln described as "government of The People, by The People, and for The People" which we are still striving to achieve and perfect.
We won the argument against King George.
So the very Foundation of the USA is violent protest and revolution, it is the bedrock that our house is built upon.
Thomas Jefferson even said words something like "we ought to shed the blood of tyrants from time to time through revolution just to keep our freedom". I'll try to find that quote and post it properly.
But! Historically most protests are put down and most revolutions did not go as planned, so I would not make the generalization that they are all good.
The Founders of the USA wrote out, signed, and published their arguments in their declaration to the world, our Declaration of Independence and they put their lives on the line by doing so, they put everything on the line and fortunately for us they won.
17 Donnamarie in Switzerland
A "demonstration" that turns violent becomes by definition a riot and, yes, the argument of peaceful demonstrators is lost at that point.
Violence against property during the course of a riot is also a crime. Civil disobedience and riots (and destruction of property during a riot) are not the same thing and should not be equated, no matter how laudable the reason for the original demonstration.
18 Jessica in NYC
The reason for each protest is different, but the purpose of all of them is the same, to bring attention to an issue and demonstrate descent from he status quo.
Protest often turn violent is here in US, because police violate our rights to protest. With all due respect to Mark, police and all other civil servants, who I acknowledge have a difficult job to do, but you are sometimes the cause of protest turning violent. I have done legal monitoring of protests with the sole purpose of watching police to make sure they did not violate protesters rights to voice their opinions against the government.
@ Mark, British soldier,
I agree if a protest turns violent, I am should not be there. However, if you cannot speak on behave of all law enforcement any more than I can of all protesters. Each side is culpable for the violence and needs to assume responsibility for their part in inciting the violence. There were a couple of frightening moments during one of the protest I was a legal monitor. Mind you, all legal monitors had been authorized by the mayor to observe police and protest. One, I was between police and protester to diffuse an argument so it did not escalate caused by a protester who fell off a side walk and the cop wanted to arrest him (protests could not be on the street only sidewalk). The second, in one much more personal case, police were blocking people out of entering the peaceful protest and I had to intervene. So the cops turned their aggression to me and six large cops surrounded me. They stared at me from head to toe and I had already given the silent queue to the other monitors to document the situation (with videos and cameras) but stay back that I was ok. The cops said inappropriate explicit things to provoke me so they could have cause to arrest me. I could feel one of the cops standing behind me breathing on my ear, but I remained calm and did not move a muscle so that nothing I did could be interpreted as violent. Once cop could have physically overpowered me, six of them was an abuse of power and violation.
@Steve in Boston: Mr Tomlinson wasn't part of the protests. I understand that he was a newspaper vendor. He had finished work and was trying to make his way home, only to be obstructed by the police. Even if he had been demonstrating I fail to see how the police were justified in assaulting him, from behind, without provocation, while he was walking away from them. The police did act like Nazis. We need to abandon the illusion that these things only happen in third world countries. If Morgan Tsvangirai had died in similar circumstances facing 'Mugabe's security forces' (as the BBC would have reported it) the world would have treated with contempt any claims that he had been 'asking for a beating'. Every police force is a potential danger to the civilian population, who need to maintain the maximum vigilance in regulating and controlling them.
Though I had little sympathy with the protestors, I will always prefer their spirit of disobedience, independence and readiness to use violence, to the complete submission to police and state that some think are the marks of 'democracy'.
Violence should never be ruled out.
21 Jennifer
Yes, I think that an argument seeking to be valid is lost if violence becomes the means of getting your message across.
Those 9/11 hijackers sure did get their point across! To the tune of how many innocent lives? Needed? No way! A legitimate protest, no. Radical, crazy? Yes!
Here are two quotes from Thomas Jefferson about protests:
"A little rebellion now and then is a good thing and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.
THOMAS JEFFERSON, letter to James Madison, Jan. 30, 1787
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.
THOMAS JEFFERSON, letter to W.S. Smith, Nov. 13, 1787"
http://www.notable-quotes.com/j/jefferson_thomas.html
23 deryck /Trinidad
Protests by their very nature are antagonistic with both police and protesters looking for an opportunity to accuse the other of violence. Most times violence is the only way people can effectively get their point across because those in authority don,t respect dialogue and diplomacy and only bow when the anachronistic animal nature of the mob is seen.
24 Stan Baker
By that standard, no one should be in the entire state of Texas.
25 Hannah
I am travelling in Thailand at the moment and am currently in an internet cafe in a very hot bangkok. I have just come back from the peaceful protest which is happening about 4 blocks away from where I am staying. Although it is late in the evening here people are still peacefully protesting against the government, and demanding the removal of the prime minister. While I was there riot police arrived and set up outside one of the government buildings. Despite this both the police and the protesters were very relaxed laughing and joking with each other. However despite the very friendly welcome from all concerned a number of Thai's I have spoken to have questioned how much longer the protest will remain non violent. 2 to 3 people said that if there was no change in the next two days the protest would turn violent. The non violent protest has been active for quite a while now and has had mixed success. They achieved the most press coverage by closing Bangkok airport last year, but otherwise some of the protesters felt that they had not achieved enough press recognition.
@ Tom D. Ford
Ah, one of my heros, I have studied his speeches:
"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. … What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
Thomas Jefferson, November 13, 1787 in a letter to William S. Smith.
27 Akbar Javadi
Demonstrations and popular unrest occur when law and order has broken down. Every politician should be prepared to face protests, violent or otherwise. Every commoner has the right to be heard, by force if needs be.
The notion that protesters should be peaceful and calm is misconstrued. People are on the streets because their rights have been violated. They are on the street to protest a muzzled press, forced arrest, ban on assembly and the one party system. Politicians don't want to know because the law is heavily rigged in their favour and never takes the side of the underdog
28 Dave in Florida
Crowds that turn violent have no credibility all. Many good causes have been dealt a death blow by foolish protesters who turn violent, then they can not understand why people do not take them seriously.
If you are going to be violent — you can expect violence right back at you. And if it's OK for you to use violence against others, how can you say it is not all right for them to use violence back at you?
CORRECTION The closure of Bangkok Airport was not due to the same people who are protesting now. Sorry for my mistake.
Jennifer, So is the argument about whether Iraq should be a democratic country now lost because we killed a million civilians, trying to prove our point?
If only it had really been the hijackers that brought the towers down, not months of planned demolition. Desperate times…………
@ Donnamarie in Switzerland
You're looking at it through Swiss eyes though. No offence, but Switzerland didn't help much when millions of Jews and other minorities were being slaughtered. In places like America in the 1770's, some understand you must fight violence with violence. Its the FINAL resolution.
32 Savane
About a month ago, one of Nairobi University students were allowed to hold a peaceful demo through the city to express their feelings about the killing of two civil society activists that many Kenyans were appalled by. Our public university students have a reputation for promising to hold peaceful demos but they never end that way. Our PM gave them the benefit of the doubt and the demo was allowed.
That day, I (and other doubting Nairobians) planned our day and commute routes for the inevitable. Suprisingly, the demo was peacful and even had police escort! Peaceful until, true to form, some students decided to hijack trucks, block a major city highway and steal and destroy property.
The validity of their cause was lost and our support too!
A couple of weeks ago, students fron Kenyatta University held a demo that deteriorated into property destruction and chaos. Campus buildings were burnt, students injured, one subsequently dying. The University has been temporarily closed
While their reasons for demonstrating are considered valid (some were, others were in my opinion a tantrum for not getting their way) they lost public sympathy and support.
If the initial strategy wasn't to be violent, and the demo turns violent, then you better get out of there if you don't want to get caught up in the police solution of quelling violence with 'violence'!
@ Dave in Florida
It all comes down to the fact that the winners write the history books. If they "win", then it was credible. If they "lose" then they were just a bunch of stupid rioters.
34 Erin in Portland OR
Well, the instance that comes to mind for me is not at all recent. The Rodney King Riots in Los Angeles, CA in 1992. Without those riots, which were indisputably horrible, I wonder how much longer the racial tensions would have built in LA before they imploded. The recession and poverty of certain areas of the city are said to have played a part in the riots which were sparked by the verdict of the Rodney King trial as well. I think good things came out of that horrible event. Would so much have been accomplished without so much horror? As sad as it is to think so, I don't believe people would have motivated so strongly without the riots. So my answer has to be no, an argument is not lost if it turns violent. Perhaps in the moment it gets overshadowed, but it is not lost.
35 Steve in Boston
@VictorK–Good luck to you my friend. I'll be watching you on television. What goes around comes around. 🙂
36 Senior
You haven't lost the argument if you demonstrate violently. Sometimes, your argument gains more support because violence makes more headlines, attracting more attention to your cause. The media usually appears to side against the police if anybody gets hurt or killed and the police can be blamed, so this can lead to more support for the cause which is the subject of the protests.
On the other hand, you can alienate your cause because people who don't support violence may feel that supporting certain causes is the same as, or can be confused with, supporting the violencee that occurs in the name of the cause. People who don't want to be associated with violence may not want to associate themselves with causes that attract violent demonstraters.
37 Luci Smith
Mahatma Ghandi was right!
Non-violence is the answer to everything.
Please keep protesting, but use your imagnation to find peaceful methods to wear down your oppressors.
38 Jeremie, US
I disagree with those use violence the way to express. Brutality or Violence raise by protestor are not effective. All forms of violence is wrong. Where is the point having a freedom of speech. When ever there is violence from the protestor that lead to more retaliation from the police.
If you say violence it's okay to make your point, you immediately legalized the rebellion in Africa and violence committee by war lord. I think violence in all form it's wrong and lead to more violence.
39 Brinda
I am sorry for this mans family.
Yes ,an augment is lost when there is violence. Nothing is good comes out of violence . There are a couple of revolutions that have been effective with Violence but it was against opponents who are ruthless and violent. There was no law during those times.Violence may have been the only resort or the last one .
Things have changed ,,there is a law and order in this society .Man i think has progressed ( hopefully) and has learn t some lessons for such events.
In my opinion Demonstrations/rally's are not effective anymore,and too risky.The crowd is too big to be controlled and directed .There needs to be focus in a demonstration and i don't see really strong leaders who can do that anymore.No offense.
There is a lot of chance for trouble makes to take advantage.
Can't we get anymore creative about the way we protest ?
@ Anthony
All the more reason to be a "winner." Quite a horrible catch-22 isn't it?
The thing to keep in mind is that for everyone who agrees with a protest, there is another person who disagrees with it. In fact, at times there are even more people who disgree.
41 Frederick, Boston
I believe we have distorted the role of protest within society. There is an increasing sentimentality throughout the world that if any one or group has any discontent, they can take to the streets and make noise. Free speech also has its limits, and this is something we rarely acknowledge. What is unfortunate is the belief that the power of our message is augmented through violent protests. I do not condone violence in any form, but when our actions are designed to interupt social order, then we must be prepared to deal with the consequences. Just as our governments have responsibilities to us, we also have responsibilities to our governments and each must demonstrate respect for the other in our pursuit of just, peaceful, and equittable societies.
@ Luci Smith
Ghandi is over rated. If the whole world thought "Non-Violence" was the answer to all, then it would take just one man to think differently, with a big old gun, and would rule the world and do what ever he wanted.
If someone is trying to break into my house to steal and kill me and my son, should I protest non-violently for him to stop?
43 Mark, Texas
Herbert Marcuse states that when the police wade in, you know that your protest is effective. That doesn't mean that protesters should initiate violence. It does mean that effective peaceful protest is met by the power of the state.
Arguments for or against popular violence are simplistic, even inane. It's easy to point to cases of popular resistance that we agree with, and praise those who resorted to violence in a good cause. It is also easy to forget those cases where popular violence was for an evil cause—the Tulsa Race Riot, for example. Is it violence that's at issue? Or the virtue of the cause?
2 years ago, the young people in Copenhagen protested because their house, Ungdomshuset, got sold to a religious group. Lots of riots and negative energy.
In the long run, the religious group turned out to be speculators who cannot sell the razed ground, the riots cost lots of money, including a high school (gymnasium it is called) who got fire-bombed and now, the woman who is Mayor of Copenhagen has decided to call it quits (for numerous reasons) as of the end of this year.
The kids were right in protesting against the building being sold, since they had been given the place with rights to use it.
The only positive thing that I can see that came out of it was that the current Danish Government with its right-liberal coalition lost lots of voters to the cause, even though it was not a national issue. "Ungdomshuset"- the young people's house made us all aware of the needs that our city has to meet for different groups and the need for non-commercial meeting places.
I hope that it could be a lesson to other cities that we all need public places where we can gather without having to spend lots of money and that it will ultimately bring down governments when they ignore the voices of people. I sure could have done without the riots, even though I sympathize with the kids who lost their great house. And of course, the city-subsidized, sanitized new venue has been expensive and is empty!
45 Steve, US
Farley said that it's probably not a big deal if protesters break windows at McDonalds. Basically trying to say that shouldn't be considered violence. First, Mcdonalds stores are franchies, meaning some individual owns it, not some massive corporation. So it's some private individual who bought the right to sell McDonalds food who is harmed, not some massive corporation that people blame all of their problems on.
Also, even if some massive corporation owned ever McDonalds' outlet, are we saying that some kind of damage shouldn't count? Should we extend that to stealing? So if you steal a dollar from the government or a massive company like walmart, charges shouldn't have been filed since it's only a dollar and they have tons and tons of money?
46 Jean Sommer
Violence begets violence and that's what happened when the police arrived on the scene in London last week at the peaceful protest that was in progress. If the police had stayed away or behaved in a nonviolent manner all would have been OK. I remember one demo, in London, that I was in where we were peacefully marching,suddenly the police surrounded one small group of us and said we had to stay on that spot until they decided to let us go. They said it was because the tube station was over crowded. It was only because there were a few strong-willed pacifist leaders in the group who were able to keep the younger hotheads under control and we had been given a legitimate reason for the inconvenience that we remained calm..
A couple of points:
When have police ever protested against property owners and actually protected the People who have been hurt by the property owners?
Most protests are against people who place far higher value on property than on people.
Anthony – in the case of a break in, please put yourself and your son in a locked room and call the police.
I do not believe that citizens ought to have guns. That is why I moved to Denmark, where I have to call the police and let them deal with a burglar. And he ought not to have a weapon there, since one is not supposed to!
I ride a bicycle, too and do not expect that every car looks out for me, but I wear a helmet when it is proscribed and put lights on at night and certainly do obey rules in traffic and if a truck is bearing down on me, I move out of the way.
I consider cars to be weapons of mass destruction with myself behind the wheel.
And I disagree completely with your take on M.Ghandi. Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Ghandi are my heroes for endorsing non-violence when most of us would have become violent.
49 Nathan
We all remember Gandi! Name one violent protrestor with name recognition.
In my 60+ years of life only four violent protest stand out, Hungary 1957, Prague Spring 1968, East Germany 1953, Watts 1965. Sadly, none were succssful in themselves.
50 Louisa Arndt
Do the protesters lose if the protest turns violent? If that notion were accepted, it would provide even more incentive for authorities to seed the gathering with a few trouble-makers. We've seen this in Seattle, in Atlanta, in many places where masked infiltrators throw bricks, break windows, turn over police cars, and the like. The police then use this (manufactured) violence as an excuse for use of clubs, horses, tear gas, fire hoses, and similar abuse.
The huge protests held around the world failed to halt the American invasion of Iraq, yet they have not been forgotten. I doubt that violence would have proved any more effective.
I cannot help but tell this story about the police in Denmark.
When George W. Bush visited Denamrk, all of the country's police were called out on overtime to protect him. From all over and around the clock for the 24+ hours he was here.
When he had left Copenhagen, there was this GIGANTIC anti-Bush demonstration in front of our Parliament building, the Folketinget, with concerts and the usual Danish demo-speeches.
At that demonstration, there were TWO police officers on motorcycles- one at either end of the street keeping the cars from driving through, because it was a demonstration that had been planned and applied for a permit.
It was such a fun thing and a great relief after all of the pent-up politician puffiness and Importance, the helcopters whizzing overhead and the seas of police we had seen during the visit.
And of course, there were no officers to bust criminals for ages afterwards and the whole policing system went to pieces and we are still having problems with it, 4 years on!
But my point is, that those of us at the demonstration just had to be protected from the cars and we were all ecstatic that the Stupidest President had made his exit.
Obviously, it must have made a lasting impression, since our generous host Prime Minister finally got a job with NATO. Excess breeds more excess, so keep an eye on those bills for helicopter rides, fellow NATO members.
Thats fine and all, yet when Germany rolled on into Denmark in the 40's, they had to give up after 2 days of fighting….no weaopons, no training, not much of anything. So where would Denmark be without the gun loving Americans and Brits?
And if someone was trying to break in, I would call the police, lock my bedroom door, and sit under the bed with my buck shot in my shot gun, which would give me a way better chance without the gun.
-Anthony,LA, CA
Try doing that kind of demontration in China, thats the point.
54 patrick
The idea that the British police are not politicised, and that they do not 'take sides,' needs to be challenged. The G20 leaders and their staff meeting in London last week were certainly not subject to the same tactics (kettling etc) that were employed against the protestors. The UK police, like the UK media, cultivates a myth of its independence and its impartiality which, sadly, they are all too often allowed to get away with.
55 saad khosa
The violence give life to the protest as then they are focused by the media. The purpose of the protestors is to be heared so the violence does this purpose.
56 Tom Hastings
Jenni Williams makes the best points.
Mostly, protests are recruitment, movement-building events and violence almost never recruits as many as does active nonviolence.
The guy from Pakistan needs to be corrected. Self-defense can be violent or nonviolent. He makes a false dichotomy.
57 Raymond
the police are government agents there to carry out orders of the politicians who order their commanders. Their purpose is to keep the public away from their masters and protect their masters from the truth.
protesters want to burst the bubble but no bubble has ever been burst silently.
have you ever seen a politician responding to a quiet nudge in the right direction.
58 Michael
The truth is voilence is the best way of drawing the attention of the govt for change.As corruption hs eaten all official, no 1 is ready work for good.
Although some people took heart from the success of Gandhis' non-violent protests the other side took away a very different lesson.
The wealthy and powerful studied it and figured out methods and ways to make it ineffective and taught themselves to ignore it and go ahead and keep doing their oppressive behaviors.
So. What will happen in the future? Will protesters have to get more violent to get their message across, will the powers that oppress get more violent in putting down all protests?
I sure don't know!
I hate to be pedantic, but actually a bubble bursting is in fact a near noiseless event.
61 Art O Laoghaire
The former Assistant Police Commissioner is not correct when he proudly asserted that rubber bullets were never used in the UK.
In the north western province of the United Kingdom of Britain and Northern Ireland, rubber bullets and later plastic bullets were used extensively, by the RUC and the British Army KILLING a total of 17 people (3 by rubber bullets in 1972-73) http://www.iol.ie/~pfc/policing/plastic/plastic23072001b.html.
I hope for the sake of the families' of Francis Rowntree, Tobias Molloy and Thomas Friel you clarify this.
62 Duffe
always it depends on which continent we are talking about. If u go violent in Africa, you may lose it all because the bullets will be opened on you so freely and no one will ever account for that. How ever, a hungry man is a angry man and in a situation where those who wield power close their case as is always the case in the continent, violence takes p residence over reason. The food riots are a case in point.
63 SorryCitizen
It really depends on the magnitude of the problem that you are highlighting. Some problem need immediate attention,your slight effort can have a huge impact.The question of violence or non-violence entirely depends on the individual.If you are a firm believer of non-violence then you need to have a lot of patience and the courage to stand by that, even if your efforts look bleak and you don't see an end.
If you believe in violence and think that violence is the only solution to highlight your problem, then you need to stand by it.
Besides, "Isn't 'Terrorism' a form of violent protest to highlight your concern issues whatever it may be?????? "
64 Taban Alfred David
Sudan/ JUba
In place like Africa violence never change the life of the people, instate it brings more paint than solution, today I don't like police because of their atrocities I often see in my area, where one day in a bar near our home, soldiers and police give no respect to one of disable men, pushing back and front if there are many things.
65 George Gibson
No,violence is sometimes the only way to show the matter is serious and urgent – people will die for their beliefs when pushed to the limit.
But then you have to be absolutely sure the violence is instigated by the ligitimate demonstrators and not by proffessional troubleshooters who are planted there by government. This tactic is used by the authorities when they want to impliment changes in law and control regulation and want their actions to be seen to answer the demands of the public. It is the way they bring about incrimental change and people are not aware of the damage they do to civil liberties in the process
66 david lulasa
if protestors know nothing of what they are protesting for or supporting,then the struggle is lost.and if the police think that they are just a wall for politicians,then they know nothing about their job and they are just slaves.the city wall is meant to protect both politicians and the guys police think are useless.afterall,the police pay comes from protestors too……as for kenya,i expect kwekwe and rhino squads to offer me security,although i hear that they kill the innocents.
TAMBUA VILLAGE,
HAMISI,KENYA.
67 Oscar
Its quite simple – if you believe in something enough to move to violence, you should expect nothing less than harsh measures in return. Even if harsh measures include getting yourself killed. When any belief moves you to violence, either step back and rethink what it is you're doing – or be prepared to go the full distance. You dont "dip your toe" into violent protests etc. That borders on "sort of" shooting at someone, or only lighting someone on fire "a little bit". Police around the world will elevate responses to control/counter whatever level of threat you're producing. In some countries, police forces are not as watch-dogged as within the US and UK. The "woe is me!" needs to quit. Revolutions are not simple things. If you plan on starting/initiating one – be prepared to finish it. Dont expect it to be a simple process of lobbying, and talking…To quote a rather lame saying "You've got to pay to play."
Back again to have the last word….
I actually emigrated to Denmark after growing up in Texas, because I prefer to live in a society that does not give citizens the right to bear arms. I grew up before the NRA and Ronald reagan brainwashed Anthony and others into thinking that anybody besides police and hunters ought to own a gun.
When I was young, only the drug dealers had guns in cities if it was not the police or a hunter.
As to nonviolence, Saul Alinsky was an orgnaizer from Chicago who was ingenious at thinking up ways for people to get their messages across without using violence. One of the famous threats was to buy tickets to the Symphony Concert i Rochester, New York and get people to fart during the concerts!
Please google Saul Alinsky, who being from Chicago has probably been one of the people who shaped the neighborhood organizer who is now the 44th president of the US.
Some of us have studied sociology and back in the 1970's, before the cheat-em and leave-em mentality came in, we wanted to learn how to change things with non-violence so that there was room for everybody in the world. Now with the cheater's mentality showing itself to be bankrupt, I hope that we can give the world some ideas about how we can change it for the better for everyone by non-violence instead of gating it and turning it into an air-conditioned dog-park. The world of guns and dog-loving people who hate others and drive SUV's is bankrupt. Non-violence and neighborhood organizing is the way to change it!
I wrote a long post which did not take on the system.
To make it short, try googling Saul Alinsky, who was an organizer from Chicago, who invented ways of non-violent protest.
I am certain that these methods are part of the path that led to a neighborhood organizer from Chicago being elected as the 44th President of the United States. It is about thinking outside of the box. You have to spend time inventing things and outsmart your opponents, but it is the way to go. NOn-violence is the best way to fight anybody and anything.
And the Danish Resistance did their part when Denmark was occcupied. Anyway, I grew up in Dallas, Texas and chose to emigrate to Denmark because they have no right to bear weapons but a right to Universal Health Care and free University education. We pay taxes. It makes sense, doesn't it? Well, it does to me, anyway. But I am old enought to remember how people used to think before they got brainwashed by Ronald Reagan and the NRA. Just ask George Clooney. He's my age and he is not brainwashed, either!
70 Jim Newman
Does the use of violence mean the one has lost the argument?
Violence is violence and is resorted to when other means have failed.
Naturally it is preferable to reach an agreement through negotiation which is the case in 90% of the time. In the case of NATO which is oposed by the majority of europeans then there is no alternative to vioilence. I speak for the people not for the lacky governements nor for the European Commission.
plainly, violence is regretable. We should be clear as to what constitutes violence, however. It is easy to label destruction of property as 'violence.' The effects of capitalism, psychological, social, aesthetic and ethical, are not typically identified as acts of 'violence' despite the fact that their destructive effects, on community, on personal wellbeing, on sustainability and on plain justice are horrifying beyond imagination, are our generation's holocaust, for which, rightly, we will be judged as dimly as we judge the Nazis.
72 globalcomedy
First, I'm sorry that this guy in London tragically died. But keep a few points in mind.
Here in the States, it's much worse. You can be arrested for publically criticizing the Vice President. You can be beaten, tasered and arrested just because the police don't like that you're an acitivist. The MSM will NEVER show protestors. They'll never question the Patriot Act (and Bush Executive Orders) because that's "unpatriotic." I could get sacked. So it's better to just shut up.
Using violence doesn't mean you lost the argument. it's used when all else fails. Under these current regulations, if riots broke out, Obama could declare martial law. Can Gordon Brown do the same in the U.K.?
73 Shakhoor Rehman
Study history from time immemorial and the answer is inescapably no. More's the pity.
74 Jaime Saldarriaga
In my opinion violence is ok only as a deffensive attitude in extreme circumstances like if one is attacked and needs to deffend his own life by using violence.
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Kursalon (známý také jako Lázeňská dvorana) je velká jednopatrová budova se dvěma atrii v městském parku naproti Grandhotelu Royal (dnes Slovan) v Piešťanech. Je to kulturní památka, postavena byla v roce 1894, architektem byl Ignác Alpár. Jednopatrová budova je situována v městském parku Andreja Kmeťa. Je zároveň největší zachovalou památkou z 19. století v Piešťanech.

O stavbě
Eklekticky pojatá stavba má čtvercový půdorys s nádvořím. V lázeňské dvoraně se zachovala pozoruhodná štuková výzdoba, která má 350 m² a její výška je 13 m. Nacházely se zde restaurace, hudební síň, kavárna a v prvním patře pokoje pro hosty.

Využití dnes
V budově dnes sídlí Balneologické muzeum, jehož první expozice zde byla instalována již v roce 1928. Kromě muzea je v budově jídelna pro lázeňské hosty a kanceláře několika firem.

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Literatura
 Slovensko kúpele:Ľ. Hušáková, J. Takátsová, Priroda 2002

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The movie marketeers are at it again, trying to stay one step ahead of the geeks, kids and fans.
Remember years ago (in 1999) when movie marketing was a world away from what it is now, a world away from what it had been a few years before that? No kids texting their friends halfway through the film saying 'dis is krap – wait 4 dvd' and sending the big studios' takings through the floor after the opening night? No security guards frisking members of the media at metal detectors to make sure they aren't carrying cameras hidden in mobile phones, PDAs or CIA-issue belt buckles. No worldwide release down to the very minute, The Matrix: Revolutions -style.
There was a funny story doing the rounds for the first time back then; the most extreme fanboys were spending all day in the cinema, paying admission to everything from Big Daddy to Deep Blue Sea, waiting for the Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace trailer, then leaving for the next session where the trailer would be playing.
Of course, it's pretty routine now, and a blockbuster release wouldn't be complete without armies of the most diehard fans trawling sessions of the most diverse and at times ridiculous movies to catch a glimpse of the new trailer for a Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring or an X-Men for months before the release.
But those movie distributors are nothing if not an attentive lot; no matter what catches on, you can be sure they'll rewrite their own rule book to the give the public what they want (except for downloading movies off the internet).
In the metropolitan daily papers a few Saturdays ago was a seemingly innocuous ad for the latest Adam Sandler/Drew Barrymore romantic comedy 50 First Dates. It's not a bad movie, it's not a particularly great one either, but distributors Columbia Tristar thought they'd pip the fanboys at the post to get their bums on seats.


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Comedy is all casting
The casting of "The Office" is more than half the value of the series. They're all just slightly off-centre, which probably helps explain why they've ended up in this dead-end paper company. For instance, I think Ricky Gervais pointed out that Steve Carell is perfect as Michael Scott because he's "almost handsome".
I've just been reading a profile of the casting director of this and many other comedies and it helps explains why Andy Buckley is so good as Dunder-Mifflin's CFO David Wallace. Wallace doesn't have any funny lines. His job is to turn up at moments of corporate jeopardy and play the heavy father. He tries to be stern but he can't quite bring himself to do it. He is completely believable.
It turns out that Buckley was a jobbing actor who gave it up to work in the finance industry. The casting director Allison Jones bumped into him after he had switched careers, took his card and this led to him getting the part, which he did alongside his day job. The reason he looks like a serious businessman is because that's what he is.
No acting required then.
No wonder he fits right in with so many "Actors".
Please imagine I've appended a Smiley or two here.
Well, they say write about what you know; he's just acting what he knows. Staying resolutely within the chalk circle hasn't done Ray Winstone any harm.
I'm not suggesting that his background makes the job easier. But it does make him more convincing.
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First Growth tech investment drives shares higher
Published February 21st, 2019
First Growth Funds Ltd (ASX:FGF) secured an investment in GlobexUS Holdings Corp for US$250,000 in February, and in this month alone the company's shares have increased more than 30%.
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Bugs have a place in the world. I'd prefer them to find someplace besides my fall garden as their full-service dining and rest area. Wilted runners and leaves on the pumpkins and mums are a typical sign that unwelcome insects have dropped in for a snack, harming the plants in the process. There is an assortment of ways to safely deter pests without harming people, pets and plants.
Arrange your garden with companion crops and flowering plants to naturally discourage insects from munching. The organic pesticides found within chrysanthemums protect crops from bugs and add beauty to the garden. Mingle mums with the other plants and around the edge of the garden to keep bugs out.
Send aphids and fleas scampering by growing onions and garlic. Mix lavender plants in your garden area to discourage visits from mosquitoes, moths and fleas.
Natural enemies like birds and wasps usually control loopers, armyworms, and other unwanted caterpillars and insects that deposit their eggs on the underside of the leaves. Plants are harmed and destroyed as larvae eat and infest leaves, flowers, and pumpkins.
Additional ways to control and deter bugs from pumpkins and mums include targeted biological control. One example, Bti (Bacillus thuringiensis), is an organically acceptable toxin designed to kill specific insects. Just spray it on to regain control of the garden. Botanical deterrents like turmeric are safe and simple to apply. Pests and ants disperse quickly when the powder is sprinkled around plant leaves and bases. Steep fresh turmeric in a bottle of water. It's just like making sun tea, but is used to deter bugs by spraying plants.
Armyworms and caterpillars, including loopers, are fond of snacks like garden mums. Loopers eat nearly anything above the surface, including stems, buds and flowers, and leaves. Larvae starts feeding on the mums as soon as they hatch and don't stop until they enter the pupa stage. Bti and fluvalinate are effective insecticides.
Picking adult beetles and caterpillars off by hand and destroying them keeps the egg count down. Striped and spotted cucumber beetles spread bacteria on pumpkins, squash and cucumbers. It causes bacterial wilt on the leaves, stunts plant growth, and scars most of the produce surviving the infestation.
Apply an effective insecticide to keep fall garden mums and pumpkins safe from bugs like western and eastern flower thrips. They scar the flowers as they feed on leaves, buds and other parts of the plants with piercing motions. Thrips also transfer a virus that causes leaves to yellow and slows plant growth. This tiny, pale predator hides deep within the plant during the heat of the day, making it hard to detect until the plants are damaged.
Maintain your fall garden properly by removing clippings and other debris. With nowhere to hide and feed, unwanted, destructive bugs will go elsewhere to find a home.


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Rally-O is a more recent type of obedience competition where the dog can be encouraged through the stations. The animal-handler team are observed from the moment you enter the show-grounds. Any type of harsh language, physical correction or serious misbehavior will have the team excused. The Rally-O ring can be 18-22 signs (stations) with quite a range of commands set up in a pattern . People can walk the pattern prior to the competition and ask the judge any questions about the command or direction etc. It can be a lot of fun, but of course with a Kerry, it can also have a few novel twists, which is the challenge part.
When I last competed, it was out-of-doors and I had 2 dogs ( Kerries of course) entered. My sister came along to watch and hold 1 dog while I was in the ring with the other.
The dogs and I do a lot of walking and hiking, the verbal command is "let's go!" One of the stations called for moving quickly to the next station. When I said to Kohl, "Let's go!" Zzin, watching at ringside, also heard the command and was not about to be left behind. Thank goodness my sister is a big woman and used to have Giant Schnauzers. She managed to hold on to Zzin and the leash. If Zzin had entered the ring all 3 of us( 2 dogs and I ) would have been excused from that day's competion. Kohl and I carried on with the rest of the stations. He went on to pass and placed 5th out of 28.
Zzin is my Border collie in drag. She is always eager to be doing something and watches me keenly to see what and where the action is. She also likes to posture with other dogs. So you can imagine my concern when we are at the show-grounds and she is lethargic. Treats didn't have any appeal, nor did the strange noises. I thought about going to the show vet, but there would be no symptoms to describe , other than an atypical terrier. I pulled her from competition that morning, but carried on with Kohl. She did watch from ringside, and I wonder if she didn't resent being left out. Because in the afternoon, she became her usual self, so we went back into the competition. She pulled me into the ring and did very well. It was her handler (me) who erred on one of the commands and made a few other 2 legged errors. Inspite of that, she placed 3rd out of 25. her score was better than Kohl's.
I have had Kerries since 1986, all staying with me as breeding stock and need to show some brain power (and trainability}. Besides the show championship, obedience and pet therapy have been the venues. Of those 3 arenas, Rally-O is the most delightful—you can have fun, and both of you will be challenged. It seems to fit for most Kerry personalities. You can treat, talk ,or even cajole. If the judge is agreeable, you can also use a clicker.
Level 1 – Rally Novice, is all on leash. For me, the further challenge was mastering all the 22-28 new commands, with further new ones for levels 2 and 3. The training was fun since the signs are more portable than the other obedience equipment. Since APDT Rally is open to mixed breeds, our rescues, who have no registration papers, could also compete and show their resiliency to the world.
Try it! You will have fun and further your relationship with your clever Kerry.


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Delta Boat Mishap: APC chieftain, Onowakpor condoles bereaved families
The All Progressives Congress (APC) Candidate for Delta South Senatorial District for the 2023 general elections, Joel-Onowakpo Thomas has condoled the families of those who lost their lives in the unfortunate boat mishap on their way back from a campaign in Ugborodo and Okerenkoko, Warri South Local Government Area of Delta State.
Joel-Onowakpo, in a condolence message signed by himself and made available to newsmen in Warri, Delta State, expressed deep sympathy with those directly affected and the APC family, urging them to take solace in the Lord.
While describing the incident as tragic and unfortunate, he said that the only thing one can do in these circumstances is to pray to God to give the families the fortitude to bear the irreparable losses.
According to the message, "I want to sincerely express my heartfelt condolences to the families that lost their loved ones in a boat mishap on December 20th, 2022, after the governorship campaigns at Ugborodo/Okerenkoko in Warri South West Local Government Area of Delta State."
"This is a tragedy! I am deeply saddened and my heart is broken by the unfortunate occurrence."
"My heart and prayers are with the bereaved families. May God give them the fortitude to bear this irreplaceable and irreparable loss."
Two persons were confirmed dead, three still missing, and seven others in hospital following the boat mishap involving loyal party members and supporters of the All Progressives Congress.
The incident which took place in the night was said to have happened when a commercial boat travelling in the opposite direction rammed into the boat carrying the party's supporters, as they were returning from a rally in Okerenkoko, Warri South West Local Government Area, 20th December 2022.
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The Rogue River Valley was a vastly different region when Tom Vella arrived from Sonoma, California. Small, diversified farms dotted the landscape as well as sprawling pear orchards. Seasonal employment in the logging industry and at lumber mills employed many, but there were few jobs available to tide a family over an unusually long winter. It was during the Depression of the 1930's that a small creamery opened in southern Oregon. The new business promised to create year round jobs and was a welcome addition to the area. Vella immediately started growing the business and employing as many people as possible. He was mindful that the faster he expanded, the more he could help small farms in the Rogue River Valley to survive during these dire times. The farmers were with him from the start, supplying ample milk to the cheese factory.
During this time, the Southern Pacific Railroad was the principal avenue of commerce offering freight and passenger service from Los Angeles to Seattle. This transformed the Valley into the cultural center of southern Oregon. The Holly Theatre was built in Medford to accommodate theatrical and operatic troupes stopping in Medford on the way to and from San Francisco and Seattle.
The Rogue River Valley and Rogue Creamery did better than expected in the 1930s during the Great Depression and were prosperous compared to the rest of the state. From 1940 to 1948 the Valley made significant contributions to the war effort.
In 1940, the draft triggered a shortage of workers and for the first time Vella employed women in one of his manufacturing facilities. The pressure intensified after December 7, 1941, when the U.S. officially entered World War II. Seeing this, Vella talked with the Office of Price Administration (OPA) and began paying a bonus for milk. He knew wives and children of servicemen were attempting to keep family farms together and felt that their efforts should be recognized. He later received the "E for Effort Award" for Rogue Creamery's contribution to the war effort.
The Creamery's contributions were also felt on foreign soil as cheddar production went into overdrive to help supply the war effort. For four consecutive years it produced one million pounds of cheddar that were shipped to troops in many countries. This sparsely populated rural area continued this extraordinary effort until the lights around the world came back on.
Once the War ended, the years of shortages were replaced with surpluses. The G.I. Bill of Rights, however, made for a smooth transition between the War and peacetime economy in the Valley. Rogue Creamery led the way, employing more people and retooling to serve the rejuvenated civilian market. In fact, the Creamery was the first major supplier of cottage cheese in Oregon.
Inspired by the successful introduction of cottage cheese to the lineup, Tom Vella decided to expand again, this time to blue cheese. Hoping that the best path to great blue cheese was to begin at the source, he and his wife traveled to where the best blues in the world were made, Roquefort, France in the early 1950s. Tom's good fortune, talent and fluency in Italian opened many doors. The Roquefort Association, although shrouded in secrecy, welcomed Tom when he spoke to the supervisor of the facilities in the man's native dialect. They became instant blood brothers. Presented with a gold pass signed by all functionaries of the Society, Tom toured operations from farms to cheese factories to the curing limestone caves at Cambalou. At the end of summer he departed France with plans for a Roquefort type cheese factory, already producing Oregon Blue in his imagination. Construction began in Central Point in 1956.
Tom envisioned caves similar to the environment of Cambalou and designed a building to duplicate that atmosphere. Two Quonset shaped half circled rooms of cement were poured, one over the other, with space in between for insulation. The result was a true cave-like atmosphere.
The Creamery began production of blue in early 1954. Instant success validated Vella's business acumen. It also went down in the books as the first blue cheese produced in caves west of the Missouri River. Over the years Vella's dedication to quality was unwavering to the end as was his enthusiasm for the business and this valley. He died on December 23, 1998, at age 100.
The business was inherited by Tom's wife, Zolita, and his four children: Ignazio, Carmela, Moris, and Zolita. The family was committed to preserving Vella's legacy and lifetime of work. His successor, Ignazio (Ig), soon took over Rogue Creamery and Rogue Gold Creamery in Grants Pass. His goal was to return to the glory days of Rogue Creamery. As CEO of both Rogue Creamery and Vella Cheese Company, Inc., in Sonoma, Ig began preaching the value of artisan products. He was met with skepticism and derision because artisan cheese was not considered the wave of the future. However, the American consumer began to grow tired of the blander, mass-produced cheeses and soon returned to handmade specialty cheeses. For his dedication to artisan cheese, and for his efforts over the years on behalf of the industry, Ig was dubbed "The Godfather of the artisan cheese industry."
Re-establishing Rogue Creamery's image was not easy, in spite of the investment, which included a newly remodeled blue cheese manufacturing plant. It was even named the best small blue cheese plant in the United States by the USDA, FDA and the State of Oregon. For three years Ig continued to split his time between Sonoma and Central Point. It wasn't until Sally, his wife of 50 years, pointed out the obvious: for Rogue Creamery to succeed he needed to move to Oregon. Ig realized the sagacity of her remark and he put the creamery on the market. He immediately had four offers on the business.
However flattering the offers, the sobering truth was that the buyers planned to take ownership of the labels and close the plant. It was at that time that realtor Tom Bradley told Ig of two acquaintances, David Gremmels and Cary Bryant. More important to Ig than the purchase price was keeping the plant open and remaining a contributing partner in the community. On the front porch of the Creamery a handshake sealed the deal.
Today, Rogue Creamery is thriving. Gremmels and Bryant have steadfastly held to the principles laid out by Tom and Ig Vella. In the first two years the Creamery won numerous trophies and awards, including World's Best Blue Cheese at the 2003 World Cheese Awards in London, a first for a U.S. creamery. Their long list of accomplishments also includes the coveted Best New Product Award as the World's first Smokey Blue at the National Association for the 2005 Specialty Food Trade (NASFT) Food Show in New York and Rogue River Blue took Best in Show at the 2009 American Cheese Society in Austin Texas. They have garnered more than 4 trophies and 30 medals and awards.
Rogue Creamery cheeses can now be purchased around the world. As the business grows and thrives, one can wander around the caves, through the packing room and even into the storefront hearing echoes of the past and feeling a promising future for the best American artisan cheeses.
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Protographium marcellus, früher von einigen Autoren in den Gattungen Eurytides, Iphiclides, Graphium oder Papilio aufgeführt, ist ein Schmetterling (Tagfalter) aus der Familie der Ritterfalter (Papilionidae).

Protographium marcellus ist der offizielle Staatsschmetterling des US-amerikanischen Bundesstaates Tennessee.

Beschreibung

Falter
Die Flügelspannweite der Falter beträgt 64 bis 104 Millimeter. Alle Flügel haben eine weißliche Grundfarbe. Auf der Oberseite der Flügel befinden sich schwarze Querstreifen, die der Zeichnung von Zebras ähnelt, weshalb im englischen Sprachgebrauch der Name Zebra Swallowtail (Zebra Schwalbenschwanz) für die Art gebräuchlich ist. Es wird eine Frühjahrs- und eine Sommergeneration gebildet, wobei letztere etwas breitere und markantere schwarze Querstreifen besitzt. Die Hinterflügel zeigen je einen roten sowie einen bläulichen, schwarz gekernten Augenfleck nahe dem Tornus. Arttypisch sind die sehr langen schwarzen, weiß umrandeten Schwänze, die die Art praktisch unverwechselbar macht. Die Unterseite der Hinterflügel weist alle Merkmale der Oberseite an den gleichen Stellen in etwas blasserer Ausführung auf, zeigt jedoch zusätzlich einen schmalen roten Querstreifen.

Ei
Die kugelrunden Eier sind zunächst gelbgrün, ändern ihre Farbe aber nach wenigen Stunden in rotbraune Tönungen. Sie werden einzeln an den Blättern einer Nahrungspflanze abgelegt.

Raupe
Erwachsene Raupen bilden zwei Farbvarianten. Sie sind entweder hellgrün und mit gelblichen Querstreifen zwischen den einzelnen Segmenten sowie schwarzen Punkten versehen oder schwärzlich mit orange Querstreifen. Zur Abwehr von Feinden sind sie mit einem Osmaterium am Kopf ausgestattet.

Puppe
Die Puppe ist bräunlich marmoriert und zeigt einen spitzen Höcker am Thorax und zwei kurze Hörner am Kopf.

Ähnliche Arten
Einige weitere Arten der Gattungen Protographium und Iphiclides ähneln Protographium marcellus. Diese haben jedoch kürzere Schwänze. Auch fehlt ihnen entweder die typische Zebra-Zeichnung oder sie kommen in gänzlich anderen Regionen der Erde vor, beispielsweise:
 Protographium celadon (Lucas, 1852) – auf Kuba
 Protographium marcellinus (Doubleday, 1845) – auf Jamaika
 Segelfalter (Iphiclides podalirius) (Linnaeus, 1758) – in Europa und Teilen Asiens
 Iberischer Segelfalter (Iphiclides feisthamelii) (Duponchel, 1832) – auf der Iberischen Halbinsel und Teilen Nordafrikas
 Iphiclides podalirinus (Oberthür, 1890) – in China und Tibet

Verbreitung und Lebensraum

Protographium marcellus kommt in den östlichen, einigen mittleren und den südöstlichen Bundesstaaten der USA vor. In Florida ist die Unterart Protographium marcellus floridensis heimisch. Die Art lebt bevorzugt in offenen Waldlandschaften.

Lebensweise
Die Falter bilden zwei Generationen pro Jahr, die von Mai bis Dezember anzutreffen sind. Sie besuchen zur Nektaraufnahme gerne verschiedene Blüten oder nehmen Flüssigkeit und Mineralstoffe an feuchten Erdstellen auf. Die Raupen ernähren sich von den Blättern verschiedener Annonengewächse (Annonaceae), insbesondere der Gattung Papau (Asimina), beispielsweise von Dreilappiger Papau (Asimina triloba), Asimina longifolia, Asimina parviflora, Asimina angustifolia, Asimina incana, Asimina reticulata, Asimina pygmea und Asimina obovata. Die Puppen der zweiten Generation überwintern.

Quellen

Einzelnachweise

Literatur
 James A. Scott: The Butterflies of North America , Stanford University Press, Stanford CA., 1992, ISBN 0-8047-2013-4, S. 162/163

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Ritterfalter
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Q: sudo failing even though ownership and modes set correctly I am getting the dreaded sudo: must be setuid root error even though the executable in /usr/bin/sudo has ownership root:root and mode 4755 (-rwsr-xr-x). /etc/sudoers is mode 440. My user is in sudoers with all appropriate settings. I've purged and re-installed the package, to no avail.
I didn't initially configure this machine; its upkeep has fallen to me by default. Is it possible that this behaviour is an interaction with PAM and, if so, how do I fix it? The machine is running Debian squeeze 2.6.26-2-686 SMP kernel. Nothing is written on failure to /var/log/auth.log so it's bailing out before that.
UPDATE: here's sudoers (with a lot of superfluous comment lines removed), but I'm pretty sure it's not the issue.
Defaults        env_reset
Defaults        secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:\
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# Host alias specification

# User alias specification
User_Alias              SUDOERS=david
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# User privilege specification
root    ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
SUDOERS ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL

Yes, I know this is overly lax. I'll tighten it up when I get it working. As far as I can tell, it never even gets to the stage of reading this file, but dies when the sudo process itself tries to escalate its user ID. A near-identical setup works flawlessly on several (>10) other machines, so I think it must be an external configuration that is causing this to fail.

A: Thanks to MadHatter, I found the solution. The filesystem had been created as one big root partition (not by me!) with /usr, /var, /home and so on simply as subdirectories. For some reason, it had also been mounted nosuid, presumably in a misguided attempt at security. I'm promoting this to an answer so it will show up more readily for anyone suffering the same issue. I should have checked mount options but didn't think to as it's such a silly situation to encounter.

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