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General Discussion => AFP Organization, Services, and Units => Topic started by: 40niner on September 24, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Title: BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150) - [DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program]
Post by: 40niner on September 24, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Administrator's note: The Frigate Acquisition Project has spawn so many side-discussions it is now impractical to merge all of these threads into a single master thread. For that reason, this thread is being turned into a thread index. Discussions that are central to the procurement of the first frigate will remain here. But the various side discussions will be discussed in the following threads:
Description Discussion
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/hhi.png) Frigate #1 (This thread)
Frigate #2 (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2492.0)
Sub-systems
Confirmed systems
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/kvls.png) Missile System (Selected (SAM): MBDA France (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3269.0)
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/hensoldt2.png) Air / Surface Search Radar (Selected: Hensoldt TRS-3D) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3270.0)
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/sharpeye-naval-radar.jpg) Navigation radar (Selected: Sharpeye Radar System) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3244.0)
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/1434573566748.jpg) Tactical Data Link (Link16) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3286.0)
(http://adroth.ph/afpmodern/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1016743_537910236256479_663810838_n-300x225.jpg) Naval Gun, primary (Selected: Oto Melara Super Rapid 76mm) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3268.0)
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/p1699494.jpg) Naval Gun, secondary (Selected: SMASH 30mm gun system) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3246.0)
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/SEA-torpdeo_launching_system.jpg) Shipboard torpedo system (Selected: SEA torpedo launchers) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3247.0)
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/decoy.png) Decoy launching system (Selected: C-Guard decoy launchers) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3266.0)
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/IPMS_small.jpg) Damage Control System (Selected: Servowatch integrated ship control system) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3267.0)
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/1651729_-_main.jpg) PN Anti-Submarine Helicopter Acquisition Project (Selected: AW159 Wildcat) (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=281.0)
Candidate systems
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/CIWS.jpg) Naval Gun, CIWS (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3058.0)
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/fcs.jpg) Fire Control System (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3274.0)
(http://www.ultra-os.com/images/torpedo/CRW3596.jpg) Towed Sonar Array (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=196.0)
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/prop.jpg) Propulsion system (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3287.0)
Controversy DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana's response to an open letter on the PH Navy's frigate project (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3224.0)
Magdalo lawmaker urges gov't scrap order for 2 warships (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2918.0)
Game of the Flag Officers (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2800.0)
About Combat Management Systems
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/S4mPr14.jpg)
Thread index: Naval Combat Management Systems (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2366.0)
Naval Shield CMS (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2372.0)
Thales Tacticos CMS (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2367.0)
PH must learn to produce own CMS, other military equipment (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3035.0)
After more than a year of study, reviews and evaluations, the Dept of National Defense's Bids and Awards Committee finally released a 2-Stage bid process for two (light) frigates in early October 2013.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/40niner_com/Warships/FFAP_zpsa5a154e7.jpg)
After several postponements on the initial opening of the 1st stage, it was finally conducted on 07 Dec 2013. Seven suppliers/shipyards submitted their bids.
Four were initially declared qualified for the 2nd stage :
1. Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co. Ltd. - (DSME) of South Korea
2. Hyundai Heavy Industries - (HHI) of South Korea
3. STX Offshore & Shipbuilding Co. Ltd. of South Korea
4. Navantia of Spain
Meanwhile, three others were disqualified due to flaw in their documents. They, however, filed for motions of reconsideration of the ruling. By April 2014, Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers Ltd. (India) and STX France SA (France)'s motions for reconsideration were approved. This brings to six as the total number of approved 1st-stage bidders. Ultimately, it was only ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems TKMS (Germany) that didn't qualify.
In August, 2014 -: DND ASec P Velez revealed (http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/08/10/1355874/dnd-spend-p15-b-two-ships-p2.5-b-ammunition) that due to some possible export restrictions by the gov't of the munition suppliers, it was tentatively decided that the monolithic project will now be split into two portions : about P15.5B (1USD:PHP44.5 = $348M) for the actual ships with some operational fit and P2.5B for ammunition of these ships.
In Nov 2015 -: Dept of Natl Defense (DND) was finally given authority by Pres Aquino (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/546094/news/nation/aquino-authorizes-p44-b-multiyear-defense-contract) to enter into Multi-Year Contracts (MYC), paving way for the FF-AP to move further. This only actually came after Pres Aquino approved the remainder (http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2015/09/14/1499552/noy-approves-afp-modernization-shopping-list) of the AFP Mod Project Horizon-1 List (2013-17).
By Feb 2016 -: The 2nd Stage of the bid process finally commenced. Updated Technical Specs was released. The FF-AP was indeed split into Platform Lot and Munitions Lot. The main FF-AP was transformed into the Platform Lot, which notably deleted the supply of missiles and ammunition from the bid; although weapons launchers remained part of the platform. Approved budget was set at P16M, which is slightly higher by P 0.5B over the Aug-2014 pronouncement. Bids were finally opened on March 17, 2016.
Out of the six qualified bidders, only four submitted their bids. Daewoo (DSME) and Navantia's bids were declared 'unresponsive'. GRSE was declared as the Lowest Calculated Bid (LCB), while Hyundai (HHI) was the 2nd LCB. However, in a Post-Qualification verification conducted later, GRSE's bid was disqualified (http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/06/30/1598080/dnd-disqualifies-lowest-bidder-p16-b-navy-frigate-project) due to financial issues (NFCC).
Hyundai, which had submitted the second lowest bid, passed the post-qualification -- and on 18-Aug, the new DND Sec Delfin Lorenzana approved the Notice of Award for HHI to deliver the two frigates based on the timeline on the bid. Contract was set to be signed in late September.
Image of the Notice-of-Award (NOA) from PhilGEPS :
(http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/355/mHtHUq.jpg)
Title: Re: DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program - awarded
Hyundai wins USD337 million frigate contract from Philippine Navy (http://www.janes.com/article/63401/hyundai-wins-usd337-million-frigate-contract-from-philippine-navy)
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) has formally received a notice of award from the Philippine government to build two new frigates for the Philippine Navy (PN).
The notice, which indicates a contract price of PHP15,744,571,584 (USD337 million), was signed by Secretary of National Defense Delfin Lorenzana and addressed to the senior general manager for HHI's special and naval shipbuilding division, Ki Yeong Sung.
The Philippine Department of National Defense (DND) first launched the two-ship frigate acquisition programme in October 2013 to meet the PN's long-range maritime surveillance, patrol, and interdiction capabilities.
The PN's weapons wishlist for the warships is currently unknown but an updated list of requirements for the frigate acquisition programme released by the DND in early 2016 calls for no degradation of anti-air and anti-surface capabilities at Sea State 5, and no degradation of anti-submarine warfare capability at Sea State 4.
Post by: LionFlyer on September 26, 2016, 07:18:09 AM
ADAS2016, will we see a contract signing?
Post by: dr demented on September 27, 2016, 01:47:31 PM
http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=&nid=1&rid=926455
DND finalizing contract for Navy's 2 missile-firing frigates
MANILA, Sept. 27 (PNA) -- The contract for the Philippine Navy's two missile-armed frigates is now being finalized, Department of National Defense (DND) public affairs office chief Arsenio Andolong said Monday.
Once the contract is finalized, it will be signed by DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana and the duly authorized representative of the winning proponent, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), he added.
"Notice of Award (NOA) was formally served to HHI last Aug. 4. Once the formal contract is signed, it will be followed by a Notice to Proceed, which will be formally served to the proponent," Andolong said.
"NOA was given to HHI as GRSE (Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Ltd) was post-disqualified after it was determined that their Net Financial Capacity was insufficient and therefore not in compliance with Republic Act 9184 (Government Procurement Policy Board)," he added.
GRSE along with HHI was one of the six proponents in the DND's frigate program.
In the NOA, HHI offered PHP15,744,571,884 for the two frigates.
The DND has allocated the sum of PHP18 billion for the acquisition of two missile-capable frigates, with PHP16 billion going to the construction of the ships and PHP2 billion for its munitions.
The ships will be armed with a variety of sensors and weapons capable of detecting and neutralizing air, surface, and submarine threats.
It will be also capable of electronic warfare.
Aside from this, the frigates, according to their technical specifications, must be capable of performing extended maritime patrol with an embarked naval helicopter and maritime surveillance through air-and-surface-search radar, sound navigation and ranging (sonar) for sub-surface search.
It will be armed and fitted a variety of air-to-air, anti-ship, and anti-submarine weapons. (PNA)
BNB/PFN
Post by: LionFlyer on October 24, 2016, 12:13:01 PM
http://m.yna.co.kr/kr/contents/?cid=AKR20161024048000003&mobile
Self explanatory.
(http://img.yonhapnews.co.kr/etc/inner/KR/2016/10/24/AKR20161024048000003_01_i.jpg)
Post by: dr demented on October 24, 2016, 01:48:17 PM
Announcement from Hyundai Heavy Industries:
http://english.hhi.co.kr/news/view?idx=600&currentPage=1
Hyundai Heavy Industries Wins an Order to Build Two 2,600 ton Frigates for the Philippine Navy
Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), the world's largest shipbuilder, announced today that it signed a contract to build two 2,600 ton frigates with the Department of National Defense, Republic of the Philippines.
The signing ceremony held in Manila, Philippines, was attended by Mr. Chung Ki-sun, executive vice president of Corporate Planning Office of HHI, Mr. Delfin Lorenzana, Philippines' Defense Secretary and Mr. Kim Jai- shin, Korean Ambassador to Philippines and other guests.
The frigates will be designed to be a smaller light combatant and successor to the Incheon class frigate which is now in active service for ROKN tailored to the requirement of the Philippine Navy with applying optimized range of good marine standard under naval rule from Lloyd Register, classification society.
The 107 meter frigates to be propelled with CODAD (Combined Diesel and Diesel) propulsion system with maximum speed of 25knots can cover a 4,500 nautical miles range at cruising speed of 15 knots. The naval vessels will inherit the enhanced survivability, seakeeping and maneuvering capability of her mother ship operable up to Sea State 5.
The frigates heavily armed with missiles, torpedo, guns and sensors controlled by the latest combat management system are capable of conducting Anti-Air Warfare, Anti-Surface Warfare, Anti-Submarine Warfare and Electronic Warfare. The frigates are scheduled to be handed starting from 2020.
Since the delivery of the first Korean-built frigate ROKS Ulsan in 1980, HHI has played a pivotal role in the modernization of ROK Navy designing major warships. And evidently it now expands its service to worldwide navies with advanced, affordable warships.
Rather disappointing on the 30mm DS30M / Seahawk mounting on hangar. That system is a remote weapon system much like the BAE Mk.38 Mod.2 25mm. It's not a CIWS and can't be used to shoot down missiles. It's primarily purpose is for inner defense against small crafts. But by putting it on the roof top means it would be unable to depress the gun much (one of the reasons why a pair is usually installed on each sides).
Well, it's still early days. Maybe they will change their minds.
Post by: dr demented on October 25, 2016, 01:07:21 AM
From Jane's Defense:
http://www.janes.com/article/64864/hyundai-discloses-further-details-of-philippine-navy-s-new-frigates
Hyundai discloses further details of Philippine Navy's new frigates
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
Hyundai Heavy Industries has revealed further details of the two frigates that it will build for the Philippine Navy
The platform is slightly smaller than anticipated, but said to inherit main design features of South Korea's Incheon class
South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) has given further details of the two frigates that it will be constructing for the Philippine Navy (PN).
The details were given in a media release on 24 October announcing that the contract to build the ships has been formally signed with Philippine defence secretary Delfin Lorenzana. HHI received a notice of the PHP15,744,571,584 (USD311 million) award earlier in 2016.
The company was previously reported to have won the contract with a design based on the company's HDF-3000 multipurpose frigate design, which features an overall length of 114.3 m, and has been used as the basis for the Republic of Korea Navy's (RoKN's) Incheon (FFX-I)-class guided-missile frigates.
HHI has since disclosed in its media release that the platform will instead feature overall length of 107 m, a standard displacement of about 2,600 tonnes, and an operational survivability up to Sea State 5. The frigate has however been described by HHI as one that inherits main design features of the Incheon class, albeit with a lighter displacement.
The ship will feature a combined diesel and diesel (CODAD) propulsion system, and feature a maximum speed of 25 kt, with a standard range of 4,500 n miles at 15 kt.
HHI did not disclose in writing specific details of the platform's weapon systems, saying only that the frigates will be "heavily armed with missiles, torpedo, guns and sensors", and that they will be capable of anti-air, anti-surface, anti-submarine and electronic warfare.
However a computer generated image of the platform accompanying the media release shows an eight-cell vertical launching system (VLS) installed at the forward section, just behind the platform's primary weapon that will most likely be a 76 mm naval gun.
Post by: LionFlyer on October 25, 2016, 07:20:50 AM
The missing part from Janes's article. I will remove if required as this is for paid subscribers, which I have access.
Also pictured amid-ship are four (two twin) anti-surface missile launchers mounted diagonally, and two triple torpedo tubes, each located on the port and starboard sides.
A remote-controlled weapon system (RWCS) turret is depicted at the platform's stern section, facing its flight deck, while a couple of what appears to be the MBDA-SIMBAD anti-air defence system turrets are located above the ship's bridge, one each to the left and right of its fire-control radar pedestal. This sensor will likely be the STIR or STING series of electro-optic fire-control directors from Thales.
Another sensor that may have been depicted in the image is either the NS100 or NS200 electronically scanned array (AESA) from the same company.
The ship can accommodate one helicopter on its flight deck, and two rigid hull inflatable boats mounted on davits found on the port and starboard sides.
The frigates are scheduled to be handed over to the PN from 2020, said HHI.
Post by: 40niner on October 25, 2016, 08:22:39 AM
^ All of those items are already shared on public blogs, so I don't think that new information has been added.
BTW, @Lionflyer -- which variant of the NS100 is currently installed with RSN's LMV?
For the secondary gun placement, the MSI's location may just be a placeholder for a future CIWS. Lots of speculations in this aspect. What seemed to be obvious, though, is the shift in caliber from the existing 25mm to 30mm. Also -- only a single unit was required in the bid (budget-constraint).
Post by: r3mu511 on October 25, 2016, 11:26:11 AM
@chief, over in pdff @raider had found this article a couple of years ago: http://www.maritiemnederland.com/nieuws/singapore-launching-customer-voor-nieuwe-thales-radar/item1196
Thales Netherlands is an amount of more than 52 million radar systems provide the Navy of Singapore. According to a letter to the Ministers Frans Timmermans (Foreign Affairs) and Lilianne Ploumen (Foreign Trade and Development) this summer sent to parliament.
It is according to the letter to eight radar systems as NS-106, which can detect and track both air and sea targets. The NS-100 family 'radar systems is provided with new technology that makes it possible to let the sensor quickly "reconfiguration", by letting switch function. Singapore is the launching customer for the radar.
according to the article singapore will use the ns106 variant...
Post by: adroth on October 25, 2016, 11:54:57 AM
From: https://twitter.com/del_lorenzana
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/signing.jpg)
National Defense Chief Signs Contract for two Brand New Frigates for the Navy
https://www.facebook.com/philippinenavy/posts/10154153128352956
The Secretary of National Defense, Hon. Delfin Lorenzana, graced on Oct. 24, 2016 the ceremonial contract signing of the Frigate Acquisition Project, as the principal signatory of the contract together with officials/delegates from Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) (Korea).
The project involves the construction and delivery of two unit of Frigate to the Philippine Navy. The signing of the contract signals the start of the construction and is the culmination of the long and tedious procurement process for the project.
As a background, the Notice of Award was approved, issued and was duly conformed by HHI on Sept. 13, 2016 with the amount of Three Hundred Thirty Six Million Nine Hundred Twelve Thousand US Dollars(USD 336,912,000.00) or Fifteen Billion Seven Hundred Forty Four Million Five Hundred Seventy One and Five Hundred Eighty Four Pesos (Php 15,744,571,584.00).
Witnessing the event were Ambassador of South Korea to the Philippines Jae Shin Kim; Assistant Secretary for Acquisition, Installation and Logistics Jesus Rey Avilla; Undersecretary for Financial Management Josue Gaverza Jr; Deputy Chief of Staff for Logistics Maj. Gen. Job Yucoco and his assistant, Brig Gen. Arnulfo G Rafanan; Senior Military Assistant Brig Gen. Arnel Duco; and Philippine Navy Vice Commander Rear Adm. Rafael Mariano. On the other hand, distinguished members of HHI delegation included the Senior Vice President/Owner HHI, Ki Sun Chung; Senior Sales Officers Ki Young Sung and Jae Rak Kim; Technical Sales Officer, Unchul Kim; Project Consultant, Myeongok Han; and Local Representative, Yolanda Lim Gamba.
Also present in the signing were the Chief of Naval Staff, Read Adm. Gaudencio C Collado; Commander of Philippine Fleet, Rear Adm. Bayani Gaerlan; Commander of Western Command, Vice Adm. Ronald Joseph Mercado; Philippine Fleet Commander, Rear Adm. Bayani Gaerlan; Naval Sea Systems Commander Virme Torralba; and Project Management Team Chairman, Commo. Robert Empedrad and members.
The activity is of utter significance to the Department of National Defense and to the Philippine Navy, in particular. It is the single most expensive project yet that will be signed by the current administration. The project, likewise, is the biggest project yet for the PN. Most importantly, this marks the entry of the PN into its quest to be a strong and credible navy by year 2020.
The acquisition of the two brand new and modern Frigates serves as a "Big Step" in realizing a once a dream of a world class and well equipped Philippine Navy, capable and credible in protecting its people, and the sovereignty of the land and the interest of its national territory.
Post by: 40niner on November 19, 2016, 06:16:49 PM
On a related note -- without overly knowing yet the details and technicalities of both builds -- Does it appear on paper -- that PN's FF-AP (~$168M/unit) is relatively a good deal compared with (Indonesia) TNI-AL's PKR10514's contract price of $220M/unit (http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/04/17/indonesian-navy-set-have-domestically-built-frigate-2016.html)?
According to Jane's article released two days ago... (http://www.janes.com/article/65579/negotiations-under-way-on-additional-equipment-package-for-indonesia-s-pkr-frigate) :
* Damen has been contracted by Indonesia to procure a range of 'fitted for but not with' systems
* Specific equipments include MBDA's VL Mica point defence missile system and its MM 40 Block 3 Exocet anti-ship missile system, and the Rheinmetall Millennium 35 mm cannon
While the PKR vessels are being delivered with a core mission system supplied by Thales Nederland - including the TACTICOS combat management system, SMART-S Mk 2 surveillance radar, STIR 1.2 EO Mk 2 radar/electro-optical tracking system, and Kingklip hull-mounted sonar - the only weapon system included in the original contract was a single Leonardo (Oto Melara) 76/62 Super Rapid gun. However, space, weight, and service provisions were included in the SIGMA 10514 design to enable the retrofit of additional 'fitted for but not with' (FFBNW) weapon systems, including a point-defence missile system, a surface-to-surface missile system, and a close-in weapon system.
One thing -- ToT and modular construction is one of the premium that TNI-AL is willing to pay (on behalf of PT-PAL).
Post by: horge on November 22, 2016, 04:57:03 AM
Quote from: 40niner on November 19, 2016, 06:16:49 PM
Setting aside the bang and focusing on the buck:
Indonesia went with a particular sort of multi-year export-credit financing.
Easier terms usually means a larger principal.
I'll note that ToT didn't quite go as far as the MOU seemed to originally outline.
Some of the SIGMA modules were built at Vlissingen, not Persero.
Post by: LionFlyer on November 24, 2016, 09:00:44 PM
http://www.janes.com/article/65735/shrink-wrapped-new-generation-tacticos-packaged-up-for-indonesia-s-pkr-frigate
This would be relevant. I won't post the whole article here because of copyright issues but extract a few key sections.
Suffice to say, ToT is a non-trivial task. The receiving party needs to be of sufficient maturity and capability before considering this option.
As a part of the PKR contract, Thales Nederland has forged an industrial co-operation with Indonesian electronics and IT company PT Len Industri (Persero), which includes a significant transfer of technology. Thales naval marketing and sales director in Indonesia Hennie Everlo explained, "Next to the extensive technology transfer we have subcontracted PT Len for three specific software modules in TACTICOS. That means the company is now developing their skills on the basis of our CMS technology."
"This was the first time we have undertaken a project with DSNS for a full modular build," explained Edie Heuvelink, Thales Nederland's PKR programme manager. "Ship module 5 [built by DSNS in Vlissingen] was the most interesting for us because it included the CIC below decks and the SMART-S Mk 2 and STIR 1.2 EO Mk 2 radars above decks.
"Our TACTICOS system was integrated in the CIC, the radars installed onboard the mast structures, and we performed approximately 80% of integration in the Netherlands over a six-month period from the start of 2015. The whole module was then shipped to Indonesia for consolidation with the remaining ship modules at PT PAL.
"We did the remaining 20% integration in Indonesia. This included all the other equipment - such as the 76/62 Super Rapid gun and hull-mounted sonar - that was not fitted in module 5, various alignments and calibrations on the ship, followed by harbour and sea acceptance tests.".
Post by: dr demented on December 03, 2016, 12:37:29 PM
Letter of credit for 2 missile-firing frigates being finalized - Navy chief
MANILA, Dec. 3 (PNA) -- The letter of credit (LOC) for the country's first two missile-firing frigates, whose contract was won by Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), is now being finalized, Philippine Navy (PN) flag-officer-in-command, Vice Adm. Roland Joseph Mercado has said.
"As far as I know, they are now finalizing the terms in the LOC, for the frigate project. That's the only update I could give for now," he said in an interview with the Philippine News Agency (PNA).
An LOC is a letter from a bank guaranteeing that a buyer's payment to a seller will be received on time and for the correct amount. In case the buyer is unable to make payment for the purchase, the bank will be required to cover the full or remaining amount of the purchase.
Mercado is the same officer who headed the technical working group that came up with the specifications of the country's first-ever missile-capable frigates.
On Oct. 24, National Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana formally inked the contract for the Frigate Acquisition Program, together with officials and delegates from South Korea's HHI. The signing ceremony took place at the PN's headquarters in Naval Station Andrada, Roxas Blvd., Manila.
The project involves the construction and delivery of two missile-firing frigates to the PN.
The signing of the contract signals the start of the construction and is the culmination of the long and tedious procurement process for the project.
As background, the Notice of Award was approved, issued and was duly conformed by HHI on Sept. 13 with the amount of USD336,912,000 or PHP15,744,571,584.
The project is worth PHP16 billion with another PHP2 billion allocated for the acquisition of assorted weapon systems and munitions. (PNA)
CVL/PFN
Post by: Ayoshi on August 31, 2017, 04:12:31 PM
Shared in FB honeypot..
Servowatch to supply IPMS capability for two HHI-built Frigates for Philippines Navy | Navy Recognition (https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/august-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/5532-servowatch-to-supply-ipms-capability-for-two-hhi-built-frigates-for-philippines-navy.html) - 30 August 2017
Servowatch, a leading supplier of advanced integrated ship control systems, is very proud to announce they have again been selected by Hyundaito supply theirIntegrated Platform Management System (IPMS). This down select will see Servowatch partnering with Hyundai Electric to provide its IPMS for installation into the Philippine Navy's Future Frigate programme to be built in Hyundai's Ulsan facility; the largest shipyard in the world.
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Servowatch Systems' scope of supply comprises an IPMS control and monitoring package for the vessels' propulsion plant, electric power plant, auxiliary/ancillary system. Battle Damage Control System (BDCS) and On-board Training System (OBTS) are also to be included in scope of IPMS.
The UK-headquartered company has invested heavily in the design and development of the next generation IPMS systems. Designed to commercial or military standards, principally for naval or larger complex commercial vessels, Servowatch offers a range of bespoke solutions to provide propulsion, electrical and auxiliary plant management from multifunction workstations with automation programmed into the system.
http://www.servowatch.com/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=83&cntnt01returnid=61
Servowatch secures a second project with Hyundai. This time to supply its world class IPMS capability for two new build Philippines Frigates.
Hyundai's HDF-3000 FFX-I Frigate is the basis for design of the Philippine Navy's vessels
Servowatch, a leading supplier of advanced integrated ship control systems, is very proud to announce they have again been selected by Hyundai to supply their Integrated Platform Management System (IPMS). This down select will see Servowatch partnering with Hyundai Electric to provide its IPMS for installation into the Philippine Navy's Future Frigate programme to be built in Hyundai's Ulsan facility; the largest shipyard in the world.
The new frigates are expected to be a variant on Hyundai's own HDF-3000 FFX-I Multipurpose Frigate. According to specifications provided by Hyundai, the design features a length of 114m, a beam of 14m and a hull draught of 4m. The platform has a standard displacement of approximately 3,000 tonnes and can accommodate engines in combined diesel (CODAD) or gas (CODOG) machinery arrangements.
"With vessels increasing in complexity while simultaneously reducing crew sizes, systems integration is key to ensuring the functionality of critical equipments. Servowatch has introduced its most powerful IPMS solution allowing more COTS (commercial off-the-shelf) product integration. It reduces platform cost, integration time and commissioning, whilst retaining the survivability and power of the original Servowatch product," says: Wayne Ross, Chief Executive Officer, Servowatch.
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Post by: mamiyapis on September 01, 2017, 11:06:39 PM
Scuttlebutt says the Thales CMS has been ditched, along with other PN requirements for the frigates. The PN is now stark-raving mad, while the Koreans and DND have both agreed to the downgrades, notable of which is the Tacticos removed for the LigNex1 CMS, and the downgrade of the NS-106 to a less capable NS-100.
There is also very real possibility of other Thales products being replaced with Korean kimchi.
Retreacted for now. New info says the PN just came from talks with HHI in Korea. Guess they are with the program.
The Royal Malaysian Navy did not want to have the SENIT CMS on their LCS (having the TACITCOS, COSYS110-M1, Nautis-F, IPN already in service). But Boustead went ahead with it anyway. 8)
Post by: adroth on September 02, 2017, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: mamiyapis on September 01, 2017, 11:06:39 PM
Take care with that scuttlebutt.
Post by: girder on September 03, 2017, 12:19:49 AM
Discussion on equipment for 2 PH Navy missile frigates underway (http://news.mb.com.ph/2017/09/02/discussion-on-equipment-for-2-ph-navy-missile-frigates-underway/)
Discussions are ongoing to determine what equipment and major systems are to be installed in two of the country's first-ever missile-capable frigates, Philippine Navy (PN) flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado said.
"The frigate project is now on the planning stage. Discussions are ongoing to agree on equipment and major systems to be installed. After this, construction will start," Mercado said in a text message to the Philippine News Agency (PNA) Friday when asked for updates on the Armed Forces' modernization program.
Asked if this stage includes selection of weapons, propulsion and sensor systems for the two frigates, Mercado replied, "This stage involves everything about the ship."
The Navy chief, however, did not give specifics on when the discussions would conclude.
Mercado headed the technical working group that came up with the specifications of the country's first-ever missile-capable frigates.
Meanwhile, Department of National Defense (DND) spokesperson Arsenio Andolong said the implementation of the country's frigate acquisition project has already begun and is proceeding as scheduled.
"Construction will commence in accordance with the timetable," he added.
Post by: 40niner on September 03, 2017, 08:50:50 AM
As much as PN tries 'to protest' -- HHI is already backed with the signed contract (with DND*) to deliver the minimum specifications on the written document. There are some rumored twists to this, but those are only in murmurs and low voices not above breathing noise. HHI is under the nose of it's financial backers to churn out profit wherever it can. This is all business transaction to them, shrewd or otherwise.
One basic problem in retrospect -- is of not being allowed by the procurement law to specifically use actual brands or brand-baselines on bid specifications. We have had discussion that DSOM had already took care of this before the PNoy, but reversion took place -- and thus this is the one sum of that undoing.
Post by: Mr. Pitz on September 03, 2017, 09:07:31 AM
If so, will the chance of having subsystems as PN wanted get materialized?
In respect also with the depreciable peso, is there any consideration that the contract price getting increased?
Post by: Red Justice on September 05, 2017, 11:43:02 PM
Quote from: adroth on September 02, 2017, 11:08:42 AM
I agree be careful with the scuttlebutt, rumors and unsupported information.
Why will be the PN raving mad? As I explained on Facebook the project will start with the PN TWG to which it will specify the specs. Now in cases where the specs set will be generic, the supplier will suggest what are the options to make the specs to be more specific to the need of the buyer.
Its just like this, you want a bicycle but you did not specify what do you want in the bicycle so the vendor will tell you here is your options. From there once you say this is what you want you know agree to purchase.
Take note if there will be some changes it will not be HHI talking or agree with DND. HHI will talk to PN since the buyer of the ships is PN not DND. Once the purchase contract is signed off between HHI and PN wala ng galawan. Pag may manipulation na mangyari plain and simple breach of contract yun.
Now kung natapos na yung barko bago i-release yan sa PN there will be testing and there will be a record of compliance and to state as indicated on the contract the ships meet the spec required by the customer (which is PN, not DND).
Ano ba ang trabaho ng DND sa program na ito? They are to approve program and allocate budget (only when they are satisfied with the CAPEX justification provided by PN) na kung above sa approval nila aabot sa Presidente. Take note why will the DND spend tax payers money to shove it to PN's throat and say "ayan gamitin niyo."
https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1422750781144098/
From my fb reply - I have been dealing with HHI since 2014, our company provides them with valves for the Marine Industry, we have dealt with MTU and Wartsilla which are also in the Marine industry. Anyone of you familiar with PPAP? Before a new product can be launch this is the required documents. PPAP stands for Production Parts Approval Process. The project team are composed of members from both sides PN & HHI, there are elements that needs to be satisfied in order for the project to proceed, one of the element is Team Feasibility & Commitment. Mind you no one will sign this document if none is in agreement, for this document signify that its a mutual understanding. Specs will always come from the buyer which is PN and HHI will meet the buyer specs. Now in the event the supplier cannot meet customer spec most often some customers are unsure that its what they want (it happened to us before when dealing with Cummins on their engines they seem to change spec on the go) there will be counter proposal coming from vendor and will be subject for review by customer and again will undergo a process called DVP&R (Design Verification Process & Reports) now if this revise specs still meets customer requirement to a certain point (be reminded Design process is not as easy as writing a sentence) program can still proceed with TFC. It does not end there for there will be a series of testing to be done, does it meet capability required, does it pass testing, each major component will be reviewed thru PFMEA to review the risk and how to mitigate those risk plus there will be Control Plan in place. Years back the Navy underwent ISO9001 certification this is to keep up with current trends and with the automotive industry standard TS16949 being adopted by almost every industry including Marine, the biggest risk to be mitigated here is the lost of life. Which is why am not throwing any kibosh items here. Even pressure from the powers to be is very unlikely to sway a project leader.
I have generated PPAP to multiple Marine Industry companies. I sign on these TFCs, submit reports to them to make sure it conforms to spec (ie blue prints/drawings or test requirements).
Please consider what I shared to you as my work experience, I work with customer design engineers, supplier engineers and mind you I cannot do any shortcuts with them, heck I even work with my supplier engineers and they too cannot just give me bad parts without me or my co-workers detecting it.
So we might as well give these people the opportunity to work on this FF project. Btw its seldom for the President of the company (in this case FOIC) to head a TWG. Its delegated to a Project Director. Keep that in mind before making conclusions
To add further -
The intermediate document that you are pertaining to is to say that the project has been reviewed and endorsed to higher authorities for approval. Process could be TWG has concluded that the project is acceptable based on capability and specifications, it will be submitted to FOIC for review and final deliberation (if needed), FOIC will then generate a CAPEX request for the $$$ is way above his approving powers. FOIC signs off on CAPEX request to be endorsed to the SND for approval, if the $$$ limit is above then it will go to the President himself to sign the CAPEX. This practice is pretty much standard as part of SOCS. FOIC's signature is key to say yes I want this, buy me this.
Post by: adroth on October 20, 2017, 10:47:18 PM
Because the internet is forever
Quote from: adroth on October 20, 2017, 10:37:39 PM
Time to capture this so that folks can contrast this with what actually comes out. Two dates to note:
October 20, 2017 (US Pacific Time): When this article came out
June 2017: The date of a critical conference that key folks were not invited to . . . resulting in memes being created in social media.
The following was posted on the forum's FB extension here:
https://m.facebook.com/groups/781170378635478?view=permalink&id=1463320303753812&ref=m_notif&notif_t=like
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From the forum's FB extension: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1463320303753812/?comment_id=1463907067028469&comment_tracking=%7B"tn"%3A"R"%7D
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One of the current bones of contention
What are Combat Management Systems?
The Philippine Navy Frigate Acquisition Project, specifically Supplemental Bid Bulletin #DND/PN-FAP-16-01, described the PN's preferred CMS as follows:
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From: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1463320303753812/?comment_id=1464404073645435&comment_tracking=%7B"tn"%3A"R2"%7D
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Press release from Kelvin Hughes. Reproduced in its entirety.
SHARPEYE™ RADAR SYSTEM FOR PHILIPPINE NAVY FAP
https://www.kelvinhughes.com/news/300-sharpeye-radar-system-for-philippine-navy-fap
Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) have contracted Kelvin Hughes to supply I Band and E/F Band SharpEye™ radars.
The Philippine Navy Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) was awarded to HHI in October 2016 to build two 2,600 ton frigates for hand over starting in 2020. Kelvin Hughes has announced it is to supply HHI two SharpEye™ navigation radars along with multifunction bridge radar displays for the Philippine Navy FAP.
This follows the announcement by Kelvin Hughes in September that HHI contracted the company to supply the Integrated Navigation Bridge System (INBS) for The Royal New Zealand Navy (RNZN) Maritime Sustainment Capability (MSC) Vessel.
The new naval vessels for the Philippine Navy are expected to have enhanced survivability, seakeeping and manoeuvring capability and be operable in up to Sea State 5 and also have stealth characteristics. The vessels (hull numbers P159 and P160) will be further complemented by the low Radar Cross Section (RCS) design of the upmast SharpEye™ radar sensor carbon fibre housing and antenna turning unit. What's more the reduced probability of intercept by ESM equipment characteristic inherent from the SharpEye™'s 300W low power output further aligns to the requirements derived from the HHI HDF-3000 frigate design.
SharpEye Naval Radar
With its solid-state technology, SharpEye™ radar systems deliver an advanced pulse-compressed Doppler navigation and situational awareness capability that can provide early warning not only of the presence of larger vessels but also small targets and asymmetric threats with a low RCS such as RHIBs, small wooden boats, USVs and jet skis. Operating in I and E/F Band, the new radar will enable the ships to distinguish between genuine targets and environmental clutter even in the most adverse weather conditions.
SharpEye™ transmits a low power, patented pulse sequence enabling short, medium and long range radar returns to be detected simultaneously. Doppler processing of radar returns provides coherent information concerning a target's velocity and ensures the detection of very small and slow moving objects. Through a series of electronic filters, SharpEye™ is able to distinguish between targets of interest and clutter whilst customisable waveforms can be configured for specific threats and to detect specific targets such UAVs, drones and helicopters.
Radar Display
With its solid state electronics, and therefore no magnetron, SharpEye™ is highly reliable and requires no routine maintenance. Moreover, with an upmast transceiver, there is no waveguide to compromise citadel integrity and signal loss is reduced.
Mark Butler, Regional Sales Manager at Kelvin Hughes said: "SharpEye™ is ideally suited to frigates, corvettes and OPVs operating in high clutter conditions and for navies undertaking modernisation programmes where the upmast equipment contributes to the stealth or RCS reduction requirements. I am extremely pleased that Kelvin Hughes is working with HHI on this project."
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For reference when the project actually comes out.
Quote from: adroth on October 25, 2017, 11:52:10 AM
The following was shared on the forum's FB extension.
This thesis, however, hinges on the assumption that the CMS that survives the "Hanwha Thales" split is Hanwha and not Thales.
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Background on the Hanwha-Thales split.
Hanwha Group to Acquire Remaining 50% Stake in Hanwha Thales
28 July 2016 - 11:00am
http://businesskorea.co.kr/english/news/industry/15374-thales%E2%80%99-decision-hanwha-group-acquire-remaining-50-stake-hanwha-thales
Thales Group, a French multinational aerospace and defense company, has decided to sell its 50 percent stake in Hanwha Thales to Hanwha Group.
When Samsung sold its defense unit to Hanwha last year, Thales and Hanwha signed a put/call option agreement for Thales' 50 percent share in Hanwha Thales, former Samsung Thales. Under the agreement, Thales has a put option that allows it the right to sell its 50 percent stake to Hanwha one year after Hanwha Group completes the acquisition process, while Hanwha is given a call option to buy the shares.
Accordingly, Thales has had the right to exercise the put option for 40 days from June 29 to August 7 and Thales officially notified Hanwha of the sale of all of its shares, amounting to 50%, at the price of 288 billion won (US$253.86 million).
Hanwha Thales is the nation's first defense joint venture established in 2000 by Samsung Electronics' defense unit and France's Thales with the stake ratio of 50:50. The joint venture has grown with research and development in advanced defense electronics products, such as radar, command and control and communications and command and control.
Hanwha Group plans to accept Thales' decision and continuously maintain and expand the partnership between the two companies, although the joint venture will be wholly owned by Hanwha.
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Post by: Manokski on October 26, 2017, 01:28:45 AM
All the naysayers relying on second hand information and speculation is getting old.
From the P-160 thread on the FB extension:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1467457336673442/?comment_id=1467639059988603&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22%7D
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From: http://www.dnd.gov.ph/transparency/FOI%20Manual/StatusoftheFrigateAcquisitionProject(20October2017).pdf
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Lots of lessons are to be / being learned for this FAP. While it was understandable that PN was trying to initially grope in the dark during bid definition stage, the succeeding stage 2 (via the SBB amendments did try to address some inadequacy. Baseline established. It was perceived that a set of supposed sub-components were also included during the submission and opening of bids -- in order to established if such incorporated sub-systems were compliant with the baseline. The bone of contention lies there. Substitution could possibly lead to non-compliance, and actually -- possibly violating the procurement law.
The current US Navy FFG(X) procurement process give a valuable lesson, including those from their own 'flawed' LCS program. The platform is calling for a parent design which had been constructed and demonstrated at sea -- rather than a developmental design. This approach lessens the time involved in testing and debugging -- thus having the platform operational at an early date.
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Another basic US procurement approach is the provision of Govt Furnished Equipment (GFE) for the platforms. PN could have had de-coupled the combat and warfare systems from the platform, so that it will have the ultimate control on which subsystems and integration it wants. Separate acquisitions with long-term and multiple platform outlook could have been done.
Monday morning quarterbacking is rather easy... But is the game really over?!
Post by: mamiyapis on October 31, 2017, 05:10:12 PM
Another important piece of the puzzle that seems to have been ignored in all this noise:
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/press-release/thales-exercises-its-put-option-hanwha-thales-htc#
THALES EXERCISES ITS PUT OPTION IN HANWHA THALES (HTC)
The jointly-owned company Hanwha Thales was created in 2000 by Samsung and Thales (Euronext Paris: HO) to develop the defence electronics in Korea. In June 2015, Samsung sold its defence related businesses to Hanwha. In this context, Hanwha and Thales negotiated a put/call option on Thales' shares in their jointly owned company.
Considering Hanwha and Thales respective ambitions in the Korean market today, Thales has decided to exercise its put option, for all of its shares, amounting to 50% of Hanwha Thales equity, at the price of KW288 billion (approximately €230 million). Once governmental approvals are obtained and the sale is completed, Thales shall record a cash inflow of approximately €200 million. In 2015, Hanwha Thales contributed €10 million to the EBIT of Thales.
Thales and Hanwha are keen to pursue their cooperation in multiple areas. Thales is a partner of trust of Korea and the Korean industry, in both civil and military domains.
*emphasis by me
Just because a JV company splits their legal personalities, does not spell an automatic end to any partnerships.
Post by: LAT@TMW on November 01, 2017, 08:15:12 AM
"Just because a JV company splits their legal personalities, does not spell an automatic end to any partnerships."
Would it mean some people indeed pushed the panic button too early? Would this mean that Thales is still our FF's CMS?
Post by: adroth on November 01, 2017, 11:06:56 PM
D&S 2017: C-Guard to protect Philippine frigates
1st November 2017 - 12:11 GMT | by Beth Maundrill in London RSS
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/imps-news/ds-2017-c-guard-protect-philippine-frigates/
Denmark-based Terma Group will equip the Philippine Navy's future frigates with its C-Guard decoy launchers, which will assist in the protection of the strategic assets.
The company will deliver a total of four launchers, two per frigate. Each launcher has six tubes, the DL-6T Launcher variant, and uses 130mm NATO decoy rounds to protect against threats including RF, IR, dual seeker and torpedo threats.
The C-Guard solution has been thoroughly evaluated by the Philippine Navy.
Post by: adroth on November 02, 2017, 11:24:01 AM
Where we ought to be by now
SBB NR DND-PN-FAP-16-05
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From: https://youtu.be/oFLqNdUsaso
Day 3 at MADEX 2017, the International Maritime Defense Industry Exhibition in Busan, South Korea. The event is held during "Marine Week 2017" and takes place in conjunction with Sea Port 2017 and KORMARINE 2017.
See time index 3:22. "Currently being operated by ROK navy . . . Malaysian training vessel . . . next generation Philippine frigate"
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SEA to Provide Torpedo Launcher Systems for Thai, Philippines & Malaysian Navies
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/november-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/5679-sea-to-provide-torpedo-launcher-systems-for-thai-philippines-malaysian-navies.html
Cohort company SEA will look to build upon growing demand in South East Asia for its torpedo and decoy launcher systems when it highlights the capability at the Defense and Security exhibition in Ban Mai, Thailand, on November 6-9.
SEA has recently won an order to provide Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) in South Korea with Torpedo Launcher Systems (TLS) for two new frigates being built for the Philippines Navy and is also engaged in providing TLS and weapons handling systems for a new class of Combatant Ships under construction for Malaysia. This follows the supply of a TLS for the Royal Thai Navy's latest frigate, which was built by DSME in South Korea.
SEA is looking to build upon this pedigree with the supply of a triple trainable deck mounted system for a further frigate under consideration by the Royal Thai Navy. In addition, there are several more opportunities in frigate new build and refurbishment projects throughout SE Asia.
One of the major benefits of SEA's TLS is that they can be configured to fire any NATO standard light weight torpedo, enabling operators to benefit from the flexibility of choosing the best weapon independently and the option of re-configuring during the life of the ship.
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As confirmed by Janes, with their own independent fact checking.
http://www.janes.com/article/75871/hyundai-selects-turkish-30-mm-naval-gun-system-for-philippine-navy-frigates
Hyundai selects Turkish 30 mm naval gun system for Philippine Navy frigates
Ridzwan Rahmat - IHS Jane's Navy International
The Philippine Navy's new frigates will each feature a 30 mm gun system from Aselsan
The Turkish company is gaining a foothold in the region, and is also in talks with the Philippine government regarding further orders
The Philippine Navy's (PN's) new frigates will be equipped with the SMASH 30 mm remote controlled stabilised naval gun system from Turkish defence systems provider, Aselsan, an official from the company confirmed with Jane's on 20 November.
Each frigate will be equipped with one SMASH 30 mm system as a secondary weapon, and the system will be fully integrated with the platform's combat management system (CMS), said the official. Jane's understands that the weapon will be situated in the platform's stern section, facing its flight deck.
South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) won a contract in 2016 to supply the PN with two 2,600-tonne frigates that derive its design from the Republic of Korea Navy's (RoKN's) Incheon (FFX-I) class. Besides the 30 mm gun system, the warship is also expected to be equipped with an eight-cell vertical launching system (VLS) installed at the forward section, and a 76 mm naval gun.
According to specifications provided by Aselsan, the SMASH system is fitted with a 30 mm Mk 44 Bushmaster-II cannon that can fire up to 200 rounds/minute, and can be operated either via an operator console or in automatic tracking mode.
The system can be equipped with an electro-optic sight package containing a thermal camera, a video camera, and laser range finder, and also operate in surveillance mode to improve the platform's situational awareness. The turret can be fed via two separate ammunition stowage lines.
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Post by: mamiyapis on November 28, 2017, 08:15:29 PM
The reported presence of VLS is news to me. I thought it was going to be FFBNW? Could the Koreans have pulled a hat trick and included the K-VLS launchers at the very least with the ships?
Post by: gemini1 on November 29, 2017, 12:00:44 PM
Good catch Mamiyapis.
Could the addition of the VLS to be installed and not FFBNW an agreement between Hyundai and the DND, in exchange for changing the other gears that were initially in the spec?
Quote from: gemini1 on November 29, 2017, 12:00:44 PM
It's entirely possible gemini1, as the config now taking shape isn't exactly a slouch and is actually comparable to current front-line warships serving with the German, US, and other western navies.
If a counter-offer was made to advance the VLS installation, it could explain the inclusion of less expensive(bit less capable) equipment over the supposed "original config".
Quote from: mamiyapis on November 28, 2017, 08:15:29 PM
It would indeed be interesting if K-VLS would actually be added as part of the package.
But that would bind PN with the few current load-outs that are already integrated with it. As it is, only LigNex1 K-SAAM Sea Bow (Surface-to-Air Anti Missile), Red Shark K-ASROC and Hyunmoo-3 Cruise Missile had been tested so far. Accordingly -- there are no plans to integrate other western missiles, as they already have concurrent Mk.41s for those application. Both VLS's are installed on their KDX-II and -III
Meanwhile, they have developed a smaller 4-cell K-VLS (2x2) module which will be installed on their newest Minelayer and LST-II, with the K-SAAM as anti-air self-defense, supposedly in lieu of RAM.
Quote from: adroth on November 30, 2017, 10:11:56 AM
From: http://www.hanwha-defensesystems.co.kr/mobile/eng/products/launcher.do
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Post by: dr demented on November 30, 2017, 02:29:55 PM
Acceptance procedures for frigate components ongoing
By Priam Nepomuceno November 30, 2017, 8:47 am
MANILA -- Technical inspection and acceptance procedures for components that will be installed on the Philippines' first two missile-firing frigates are now being finalized.
This was bared by Department of National Defense (DND) public affairs office chief Arsenio Andolong on Wednesday when asked on the progress of the modernization project worth PHP18 billion.
"The Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) is proceeding as scheduled and we are now finalizing the Technical Inspection and Acceptance procedures for the many components that will comprise the two frigates," he said in a message to the Philippine News Agency.
This stage includes possible selection of weapons, propulsion and sensor systems on the two frigates.
"We expect the concerned parties to submit the checklists, which are required in the Technical Inspection process, not later than December 1, 2017," Andolong said.
On Oct. 24, 2016, DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana formally inked the contract for the FAP, together with officials and delegates from South Korea's Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) at the PN's headquarters in Naval Station Andrada, Roxas Boulevard, Manila.
As background, the Notice of Award was approved, issued and was duly conformed by HHI on Sept. 13, 2016 with the amount of USD336,912,000 or PHP15,744,571,584.
An additional PHP2 billion was allocated for the acquisition of assorted weapon systems and munitions. (PNA)
Post by: adroth on December 01, 2017, 03:20:34 PM
For reference
Quote from: adroth on December 01, 2017, 03:00:48 PM
Korea's KDX-III AEGIS Destroyers
Jun 11, 2015 00:36 UTC by Defense Industry Daily staff
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/drs-wins-multiplexing-contract-for-korean-aegis-destroyers-0431/
KDX-III ships real firepower lies their array of 128 vertical launch cells, which is slightly more than the American Ticonderoga Class cruiser's 122 cells. On the Korean ships, these VLS cells come in 2 types.
The standard Mk 41 vertical launch cells are split 48 forward, and 32 aft, for a total of 80. Vertically-launched SM-2 Block IIIA/B surface-to-air missiles handle long-range anti-aircraft duties, and an upgrade to the SM-6 is planned. The ships could also upgrade to ABM-capable SM-3s, if accompanying modifications are made to the radar and combat system, but South Korean leaders aren't interested. Mk.41 cells can also carry a wide variety of other payloads, including quad-packed RIM-162 anti-aircraft missiles, vertically-launched anti-submarine torpedoes, or Tomahawk cruise missiles. South Korea currently seems focused on filling them with SM-2s. This will give the destroyers 3-layer anti-aerial protection (SM-2/6, RAM, Goalkeeper).
Weapons variety comes from a 3rd VLS set of 48 aft-mounted "K-VLS" cells, a Korean system that holds locally-designed weapons like Hyunmoo cruise missiles, SSM-700K Haesung external link anti-ship missiles, Red Shark "K-ASROC" vertically launched rocket-assisted anti-submarine torpedoes, or other compatible weapons.
Post by: LionFlyer on December 02, 2017, 01:38:10 PM
"Expected to include" sounds more like FFBNW. That there are space provisions for a VLS system forward is known. If there was VLS from the get-go, then the Mistrals/'Simbad RCs are a redundant expense.
Post by: mamiyapis on December 02, 2017, 05:30:11 PM
Quote from: LionFlyer on December 02, 2017, 01:38:10 PM
It could be just the launchers, LionFlyer, as the budget for ammunition and missiles was separated from the get-go.
Post by: adroth on December 21, 2017, 06:18:43 AM
Frigate project to push through despite Mercado relief
By Priam Nepomuceno December 20, 2017, 6:18 pm
http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php/articles/1019420
MANILA -- The Philippine Navy's frigate project would push through despite the relief of Vice Adm. Ronald Joseph Mercado from the Navy's top post, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said Wednesday.
"Kaya nga naming siya tinanggal, para matuloy (We relieved him so that the project would push through)" he added.
Mercado was relieved Tuesday after the defense chief cited loss of trust and confidence in the integrity and leadership of the naval officer.
This was brought about by Mercado's alleged fixation on one company to supply the combat management system (CMS) of the frigate project, whose contract was won by South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries.
The CMS handles the weapons, sensors and other equipment related to combat.
Lorenzana also clarified that before signing the contract for the frigate program last year, he had a consultation meeting with ranking Navy leaders, including Mercado who was Western Command chief at that time, to determine if they had any problem or misgiving on the project.
When no opposition came from the naval officers, Lorenzana said he proceeded to the Navy headquarters in Roxas Blvd., Manila and signed the contract.
In the contract, Lorenzana said the shipbuilder has the authority or power to select the maker or manufacturer of the CMS.
"The CMS is very important to the project but there is a specification there. They were in the contract, the technical working groups' discussion. You cannot put a company there to put the CMS, ilagay mo lang capability na gusto mo (just state the capability that you want). Now Hyundai said that they can, they will put the capabilities, CMS there according to specifications and we will find that out when they deliver that. Pag na-deliver yun at hindi nasunod yung specifics nyan (Once that is delivered and the specifications are not met), we will not accept the project and we have to reconnect to them so that they can correct whatever is deficient," he added.
He added that Hyundai is not keen on Mercado's proposal as it is more expensive and not in the contract.
Once delivered and commissioned in 2020, the frigates will be the first Filipino warships capable of neutralizing surface, subsurface and air threats with missile and other modern armaments. (PNA)
The SND has said what has been on my mind for some time now: We cannot specify brands, why the insistence on Thales?
Now the claim has been that a "BOQ"(assuming this is a Bill of Quantities) issued by HHI contains different hardware, hence making these "new selections" for hardware "illegal". The matter being complicated that the requested capability of the Navy is reportedly not being met by these new selections.
Hopefully, documentation will come out touching on these issues and finally clearing the air. One thing is for sure though, the social media storm this issue has caused has reached international media and it would only help to go public to finally correct misconceptions... whichever side they may exist on.
Post by: horge on December 24, 2017, 03:40:59 AM
Quote from: mamiyapis on December 23, 2017, 05:46:58 PM
The SND has said what has been on my mind for some time now: We cannot specify brands.
Sure, but you can specify to the point where only one product clears, or at least to the point where your
true desire becomes obvious to all. Do you remember back on timawa, how the original spec for the TAS
was lifted almost word for word from (brand X) brochure?
it would only help to go public to finally correct misconceptions.
Pragmatically, yes: there's little DND+AFP does that OPFOR doesn't know intimately about anyway.
Conceptually, no. OPSEC (and PERSEC) remain ideal principles.
Quote from: horge on December 24, 2017, 03:40:59 AM
Sure h, they could have done that... but apparently the specs were not written quite as well enough
to ensure the same from happening.
From my POV, it looks like someone screwed up the specifications/requirements and didn't realize
the Koreans might just have something they can use to alternate against their target product. The
last 6 months have sounded like nothing more than someone desperately trying to get the products
they wanted all along.
The SND can cut through the ambiguities. He's in it whether he wants to be or not. Release a more
general statement, something along the lines of : "Product T is good, but Product H works too and
is compliant with all our needs". Then let the Pre-Delivery Inspections do the job.
With the politically-motivated inquiries that are reportedly being lined up . . . a more detailed accounting of what happened will be necessary.
The SND has said what has been on my mind for some time now: We cannot specify brands
As per Section 18, RA 9184
As part of the two envelope submission, the BOQ is one of the second envelope along with the price schedule.
If Thales was explicitly listed in the BOQ, it might explain the insistence. Again, we don't have sight on what was mentioned in the contract and how the responsibility between the prime contractor (HHI) and GOP are resolved. This model of the prime contractor deciding on the equipment selection isn't new or necessarily bad, especially since the risks are transferred to the prime contractor in the event that the system integration runs into trouble, versus CSI being a GFE or by a third party.
Interestingly, the dissolution of the Samsung-Thales entity ended after the second Samsung-Thales equipped Incheon class frigate was launched.
Thales to sell 50% stake in Samsung joint venture
By Korea Herald
Published : Mar 9, 2015 - 19:35 Updated : Mar 9, 2015 - 19:35
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20150309001015
Thales, Europe's biggest defense electronics company, plans to sell its 50 percent stake in Samsung Thales to the company's new owner Hanwha Group, multiple sources said Monday.
"An official announcement is imminent as their talks are being finalized," said a source familiar with the matter.
"Thales considers Hanwha less attractive as a partner. For the same reason, Total is also looking to sell its stake in its joint venture with Samsung."
Samsung Thales is a 50-50 joint venture between Samsung and Thales established in 2001. It has engaged in the design and development of digital defense technologies and systems.
Could this mean that the intent -- all along -- was for South Korea to develop its own CMS with Thales as the knowledge-transfer source, and that the necessary knowledge had indeed already been transferred?
How much of Tacticos actually lives on in Naval Shield?
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Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on January 04, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
hope in the improved version of the PN Frigates, we could put this one up..
https://navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2018/january-2018-navy-naval-defense-news/5833-saab-offers-fixed-face-configuration-of-sea-giraffe-4a.html
Post by: adroth on January 11, 2018, 03:58:03 PM
Quote from: adroth on January 11, 2018, 03:54:19 PM
Solon says P25-B AFP upgrades a message to terrorists: 'We're capable of defeating you'
By ERWIN COLCOL, GMA News
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/639237/solon-says-p25-b-afp-upgrades-a-message-to-terrorists-lsquo-we-rsquo-re-capable-of-defeating-you-rsquo/story/
House Appropriations Committee chair Karlo Nograles said that the P25-billion Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) modernization program will improve the military's fighting capabilities in all aspects.
In a news release, Nograles said the Department of National Defense has already given final approval of the details of the P25 billion for the modernization plan.
"We're talking about land, air, and sea upgrades for the AFP. This modernization program will erase doubts regarding the Duterte administration's commitment to our brave men and women in uniform and protecting the country as a whole," Nograles said.
"While our military personnel will no doubt enjoy their well-deserved increase in base pay this year, their morale will get another huge boost thanks to the new combat vehicles they will be getting," he added.
Included in the forthcoming purchases under the modernization plan are 24 attack helicopters worth P13.8 billion, one fixed wing jet worth P2 billion, and one turboprop patrol aircraft worth P1.8 billion.
"If the acquisition of the attack helicopters will be subject to a multi-year acquisition, then the list would also include 44 units of light attack tanks. These will be worth P9.4 billion," Nograles said.
The program will also include payment, through multi-year obligations, for two frigates, an amphibious assault vehicle, and a surveillance radar worth a total of P8 billion.
Post by: Invictus on January 16, 2018, 07:32:15 AM
Palace had special interest in Navy's selection of weapons system supplier (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/960572/palace-had-special-interest-in-navys-selection-of-weapons-system-supplier)
The Palace, the Department of National Defense (DND), and the Navy discussed the issue hounding the combat management systems (CMS) of the Navy's frigate program.
It included a letter to President Rodrigo Duterte from the Navy explaining why it preferred Tacticos CMS of Thales Nederlands, Inc. over Hanwha Thales (HTC) for the CMS of the frigates.
Palace preference for Hanwha over Tacticos Thales
The letter from Go, written in broken English, claimed that while "Thales CMS," apparently referring to Tacticos CMS, has "many sales records of CMS in many countries including Korea… the End-Users of the many countries has (sic) been suffering from their poor supports (sic) of logistics services and upgrade or modernization of their outdated CMS because they are putting all non-recurring/ development costs for the logistics and upgrade to the foreign customer only due to small number of ships in their home countries with high margin as their profits policy."
The letter said that the Korean Navy was set to "discard" Thales from its "OEM [original equipment manufacturer] portfolios" because of the above-stated reason.
It also said that "Hanwha will provide Philippines Navy (sic) the most economic and effective logistics and upgrade etc. (almost free riding or on boarding) after delivery or (sic) brand new CMS with the logistic supports based on large number of government funding supports."
Moreover, Hanwha was prepared to provide "real time 24 hours logistics support in every fleet of Korean (N)avy and will establish a team for Philippines Navy in their fleet with real time network with Korean teams."
Navy insists on Tacticos Thales
the FAP PMT "preferred Tacticos CMS over Naval Shield ICMS" because Tacticos CMS "is one of the leading Combat Management Systems in the world considering that it is being used by 23 foreign countries to over 172 ships."
Tacticos CMS is also compatible with the TDL 16 requirement of the AFP, while "Hanwha's Naval Shield ICMS' compatibility with TDL 16 is still under development phase but could not be operational by 2019
In view of the foregoing, the Frigate Acquisition Project PMT sustains its preference on Tacticos of Thales Nederlands as the CMS for the two (2) PN Frigates...
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on January 16, 2018, 07:48:59 AM
that article breed more questions than answers...
1. many sales records of CMS in many countries including Korea… the End-Users of the many countries has (sic) been suffering from their poor supports (sic) of logistics services and upgrade or modernization of their outdated CMS because they are putting all non-recurring/ development costs for the logistics and upgrade to the foreign customer only due to small number of ships in their home countries with high margin as their profits policy ---- they need to elaborate on this one??
2. Hanwha will provide Philippines Navy (sic) the most economic and effective logistics and upgrade etc. (almost free riding or on boarding) after delivery or (sic) brand new CMS with the logistic supports based on large number of government funding supports --- i hope someone could elaborate on this one.. pang electronics na ang kwentuhan nito..
3. real time 24 hours logistics support in every fleet of Korean (N)avy and will establish a team for Philippines Navy in their fleet with real time network with Korean teams ------ "will establish".. ano included sa support? need to elaborate on there end...
kung 2019 pa ma activate ung TDL 16 ibig sabihin di pa compatible with NATO and US Navy sakaling mag karoon ng exercises such as Pacific Rim, etc..
so even the OIC is on the same page of the relieved Mercado that they prefer Tacticos over Naval Shield.. so why relieved Mercado?
one thing i found interesting is nakaabot na pala sa MalacaÑang ang problema sa CMS, so they are not in the dark on the issue....
how about the other replaced systems beside the CMS..
Post by: adroth on January 16, 2018, 09:51:30 AM
Quote from: El_Filibusterismo1978 on January 16, 2018, 07:48:59 AM
Many things in that article don't add up.
http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2800.msg8882#msg8882
^ Acting FOIC cited Hanwa Thales Co., Ltd (HTC) in his letter to Malacañang, 23 January 2017
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Image source: http://bit.ly/2mO8RHw
Post by: Invictus on January 17, 2018, 05:05:22 PM
Design review of 2 frigates to undergo technical inspection: DND (http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1021900)
By Priam Nepomuceno January 17, 2018, 1:13 pm
Critical Design Review (CDR) of the two frigates, on order from South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries, has been completed and will now be undergoing examination by the Philippine Navy's Technical Inspection and Acceptance Committee (TIAC) this week.
Once approved, the CDR will serve as the "Bible" of the shipbuilder in constructing the ship and putting the systems desired by the customer or end-user.
good luck to the test.. Hope they all fall into place...
ano ba standards ng test? any checklist?
papasok ba sa test ang "swarm attacks from air, surface at subsurface"?
Post by: slayermoonlight on January 18, 2018, 07:03:45 PM
If HHI tells the (noob) Philippine government: "Take it or leave it", what would you choose?
#1 Take it? (accept the design and commence steel cutting despite the non-compliances)?
#2 Leave it? (just cancel the frigate project as per Rep Alejano advice)?
choose your poison wisely
Post by: LionFlyer on January 18, 2018, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: slayermoonlight on January 18, 2018, 07:03:45 PM
From HHI perspective, there is no non-compliance to speak of, especially given the contract wording. Which means it could be the other way round. HHI can terminate this contract unilateral if it doesn't get its way without any penalties.
Going by the wording of the contract, payment so far will be forfeited. See #1.
Taking this to the courts will take years to resolve. Airbus just resolved a dispute with Taiwan over the sale of missiles... from 1992!
#3, negotiate with HHI and top-up the difference to get your CMS/bells and whistles. Money talks, but the politics would make it an untenable choice.
As distasteful as this saga is, one point needs to be highlighted. The original scope of this project was for a far less capable platform and thus was budgeted accordingly. The seeds of this problem was laid when the scope was revised for a far more capable light frigate by the consultant, midway thru the bid. Not really the consultant's fault as he was trying to do right.
But when you budget to build a two story house and decided to make it three story without any increase in budget.... you must either get lucky with a good contractor willing to absorb the difference or run the risks of someone cutting corners. The risk evidently exploded.
Citing GRSE's statements about being able to deliver at this price point is merely a red herring. It is easy for them to take this position and throw shade at a competitor since they got no skin in the game. Even if the contract with HHI was canned, and project restarted with this scope and no changes to the budget, it is a huge risk because the margins are razor thin and none of the brand name shipyards are interested. You might end up with the likes of GRSE (India), MTG Dolphin (Bulgaria).
This insight deserves its time under the sun.
https://m.facebook.com/groups/781170378635478?view=permalink&id=1475552265863949
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Post by: LionFlyer on January 21, 2018, 08:46:38 AM
TTC rightly pointed out that NS ICMS is a "fork" from the original TACTICOS in software terms. But no two forks are equal and the question is less about whether the platform can be easily modified, but who does the work (and pays for it).
Unlike Singapore, Philippines does not have that capability to do that modification and integration work and would be reliant on Hanwah. Who will have to charge for it or offer you the indigenous alternative (Link K for example) for free, but further tying AFP to the SK ecosystem.
In all the recent discussions about the FAP and Link16, one important part of the project appears to have been missed. SBB NR DND-PN-FAP-16-01 specify Link16 and Link22 as requirements . . . but were to be FFBNW
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From another, rival, FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/587923644611471/permalink/1829041683832988/?comment_id=1829621507108339&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22%7D
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Post by: mamiyapis on January 23, 2018, 10:48:13 PM
Ex-Navy chief: Frigate project must push through (ftp://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1022395")
MANILA -- Despite the controversies surrounding the PHP18 -billion Frigate Acquisition Program (FAP), former Philippine Navy flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado still wants the project to push through as the two ships will give the PN its much needed punch in protecting the country's vast maritime territories.
He made this announcement during a chance interview in Camp Aguinaldo, Quezon City on Monday.
"Well, sa amin lang naman is I like that frigate (project to push through) because everyone in the Navy wants that frigate (to be completed) kasi it's a combat ship, anong mangyayari sa Navy natin kung walang punch 'di ba, you cannot (only have) transport ships, we should have a punch, the frigate is the capital ship, and this is the first time in the history of the PN that we will have a frigate newly constructed tapos missile capable (and can defeat) air, surface and undersea (threats)," Mercado added.
The FAP contract worth PHP18 billion, including the weapon systems and munitions, was won by South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries. It will be armed with a variety of missiles and guns capable of defeating various threats.
With regard to claims that he is pushing for a particular brand of combat management system (CMS) for the frigates, Mercado said he was only standing for the original position of the PN regarding the equipment it wants for its ships.
He added that the system the Navy wanted is more proven and in use in many naval forces in the world.
Earlier, Magdalo party-list Rep. Gary Alejano claimed that FAP project is replete with anomalies and that its design was altered from the original.
This includes the alleged preference for the Hanwha CMS, the lawmaker said.
Aside from this, there are claims that Special Assistant to the President (SAP) Christopher 'Bong' Go allegedly interfered with the FAP.
However, this allegation was dismissed by the Department of National Defense (DND) last week.
"The President has already addressed the issue of the alleged 'intervention' of the SAP Christopher "Bong" Go in the PN Frigate Acquisition Project," DND spokesperson Arsenio Andolong said, quoting Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana.
"The Secretary of National Defense (Delfin Lorenzana) is confirming that no intervention or interference by Secretary Bong Go happened. The document that the SND alluded to have been given to him by Secretary Bong Go was handed to him at the Palace, so he assumed that it came from Secretary Go, the Special Assistant to the President and Chief of the Presidential Management Staff (PMS). It should be noted that the one of the tasks of the PMS includes the official routing and endorsement of documents to government agencies concerned, for appropriate action," he added.
Andolong said the subject document originated from Hanwha, one of the proponents for the CMS who were post-qualified by the PN for the FAP.
"The SND forwarded it to then Flag-Officer-In-Command of the Philippine Navy (then Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado) for appropriate action, who, in turn, gave it to then Commodore (now Rear Admiral) Robert Empedrad, the Chairperson of the Frigate Project Management Team at the time. Admiral Empedrad wrote a reply to the document stating the preferred CMS of the Philippine Navy, subject to the terms and conditions of the contract," he added.
The DND spokesperson said there was neither hint nor guidance from the Palace or from Go to influence the implementation of the project.
"There is a contract for the FAP which was crafted mainly by the Philippine Navy and it will be implemented strictly to the letter," Andolong pointed out. (PNA)
*rant mode on*
Sorry... but from everything I've seen and heard... Isn't this entire hullabaloo the shared fault of the Navy and DND? These "pull at the heartstrings" tactics and articles of the Navy just broke my back.
They essentially signed a contract no one proof-read before the signing ceremony. Even if no one from our side signs a particular page of a contract, if it is attached to it at the time of signing, then it stands as legal language of the said contract. Does no one understand that at the Navy? Mercado and Empedrad can spin this however they want, but at the end of the day they are both on hook for signing what they are now claiming was a defective and deceitful contract. We can talk about how underhanded this was on the part of HHI until the Chinese Navy gets flying ships, but that is just crying over spilled milk.
Now let's not forget the seeming willingness of both the DND and Navy to just negotiate the CMS and call it a day. Why laser focus on the CMS when there is a sh*t ton of issues with the Frigate? If I was Mercado and I got that list? I would throw it in the face of the HHI rep and tell him the deal is off and we break the contract if they don't fix EVERYTHING.
Now, let's say just for argument's sake HHI bends on the CMS and installs Tacticos tomorrow. What is the Navy's playbook on the rest of the issues the ship reportedly has? Complain again? Beg HHI for understanding? Ask them to think of the children all salivating at the mouth for the Navy's first missile firing ships? What's next? They basically wrote themselves into a corner by releasing all this crap in media instead of talking for more negotiating room.
Do we bring up the issues piecemeal and hope they also bend? Do we get backlash saying we are now just nitpicking? This focus on just the CMS opens a dangerous precedent for future acquisitions. It tells suppliers they can bend the rules as long as you can get the Navy to tell you what is important to them and just qualify with that system.
Lastly, this is article just made sure HHI knows they have us by the balls when it comes to the 2 frigates.
Le sigh
*rant mode off*
Quote from: Invictus on January 23, 2018, 04:24:10 PM
Lorenzana: Frigate project cancellation unlikely (http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1022524)
MANILA -- Despite allegations hounding the Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program (FAP), Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said that it is very unlikely that the project would be cancelled.
'With all the facts we know about the frigate (project)? No," he said in a message.
Earlier, the DND announced that it is welcoming any investigation on its PHP18 billion FAP, noting that it has nothing to hide regarding the matter.
DND public affairs office chief Arsenio Andolong made the statement in response to plans of the Senate minority bloc to conduct an investigation on the FAP.
"The DND welcomes the plan of the Senate to conduct an investigation on the Frigate Acquisition Project. In fact, we have long been waiting for the opportunity to shed light on this issue so that the truth will finally be known," he added.
btw sirs, is the current PMT still the PMT's during Pnoy's term or there was a new set of PMT during Du30's term?
Post by: Invictus on February 04, 2018, 01:18:44 AM
Malacañang calls for Probe into Frigate Deal Issue (http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1024020)
February 3, 2018, 5:39 pm
MANILA -- Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque Jr. on Saturday called for an investigation into the multi-billion Navy frigate contract entered into by the previous administration with a Korean firm.
This is in connection with the statement of Magdalo Partylist Representative Gary Alejano saying that Hyundai Heavy Industries was banned to participate in state-led bids in South Korea due to the firm's alleged bribery cases in other countries.
Congressman Alejano, salamat po. Dahil sa iyong sinabi iimbestigahan na po natin yung inyong mga kakampi noong nakalipas na administrasyon...
Kung totoo na blacklisted iyong binigyan nila ng kontrata, dapat managot iyong mga opisyales ng mga nakalipas na administrasyon at sabihin sa atin bakit naging ganoon ang kanilang naging desisyon
The Duterte administration, according to Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque Jr., merely performed a ministerial function in giving the Notice of Award to the winning bidder, pursuant to a provision of Republic Act No. 9184 or the Government Procurement Reform law.
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on February 05, 2018, 07:45:53 AM
it seems this project is in peril.. Alejano played to the hands of Roque... and he baited..
Frigate project still on despite HHI 'troubles' (http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1024822)
By Priam Nepomuceno February 11, 2018, 12:26 pm
MANILA -- The Philippine Navy's PHP18-billion Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP), which was awarded to South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), is "still proceeding on schedule."
This was the remark of Department of National Defense (DND) spokesperson Arsenio Andolong when asked about the program's status after HHI was banned from participating in any South Korean tenders for two years after its top executive was found guilty of offering bribes in order to win the bid to supply parts for four nuclear reactors to be constructed at the United Arab Emirates.
The case stemmed in 2013 and in 2015, HHI was convicted and was penalized by a two-year ban.
It sought to have the ban nullified in 2015 and the South Korean Supreme Court on Dec. 22, 2017 ruled with finality against the shipbuilder.
Wala pang official word from the Republic of Korea (including its Embassy in Manila) as of today, the project is continuing, we are still going for the milestones that are outline(d) and (in the) timeline, (the project is) just proceeding as planned
There is a proper process prescribed in RA 9184 (Government Procurement Reform Act) concerning the termination of a procurement project and there are specific conditions that must be present in order to invoke it, none of which are existing at the moment in this project
Post by: adroth on February 18, 2018, 11:39:14 AM
Navy frigate deal: What we need to know
By Jose Cielito Reganit February 18, 2018, 7:00 am
MANILA -- The Senate on Monday, Feb. 19, will start its probe into the alleged controversies surrounding the PHP16-billion acquisition of two Philippine Navy frigates.
The investigation by the Senate Committee on National Defense and Security, headed by Senator Gregorio Honasan, as well as the Congressional Oversight Committee on the Armed Forces of the Philippines Modernization Act, seeks to determine whether the acquisition of the combat ships "promotes the goals of the modernization program and complies with pertinent laws".
The investigation was initiated by opposition lawmakers in the Senate — Minority Leader Franklin Drilon along with Senators Francis Pangilinan, Paolo Benigno Aquino IV, Risa Hontiveros, Leila de Lima, and Antonio Trillanes IV —through Resolution No. 584.
It was filed in the wake of allegations that Special Assistant to the President (SAP) Christopher "Bong" Go endorsed a letter to the defense department regarding the project.
But what was the root of the controversy and how was Go's name dragged into it?
The Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) is one of the key pieces of the Armed Forces of the Philippines' (AFP) modernization program, as it seeks to provide the country with the capability to deal with air, surface and sub-surface threats.
It will be armed with a variety of missiles and guns capable of defeating such threats.
The acquisition of the two frigates is widely seen as the first step to provide the Philippine Navy with modern and capable warships to protect the country's vast maritime territories.
'Done deal'
The FAP contract, which is worth almost PHP16 billion excluding the weapon systems and munitions, was initiated in June 2013 and was awarded during the time of President Benigno "Noynoy" Aquino III under then defense secretary Voltaire Gazmin.
On June 16, 2016, the notice of award was issued to HHI by Gazmin and the conforme was signed by HHI on September 13, 2016.
On June 30, 2016, President Rodrigo R. Duterte was inaugurated as the 16th president of the Republic.
In September that year, then-appointed DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana sent the Notice of Award, and shortly after being confirmed by the Commission on Appointments on Oct. 19, signed the FAP contract agreement with the naval shipbuilder.
The Notice to Proceed was issued to HHI on Dec. 13 of the same year.
But for the most part of 2017, the project was stalled at the Critical Design Review (CDR) stage after the Navy and HHI raised conflicting concerns on the combat management system (CMS) to be installed on the frigates.
The CMS is what most call "the brain of a naval combat vessel", a computer and software system package that integrates all the sensors and weapons systems of the ship into a single system to assure "knowledge superiority" over potential enemies, shorten decision-making cycles, and execute rapid and accurate weapon engagement, especially during combat or security operations.
HHI, citing a provision in the contract, claims "sole right" to choose the CMS maker and selected fellow South Korean company Hanwha Systems as the preferred supplier.
On the other hand, former Philippine Navy (PN) flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado said that the PN preferred the Tacticos system made by Thales of The Netherlands.
It is the choice for the CMS supplier that will be at the center of Monday's Senate investigation.
In a privileged speech at the House of Representatives last Jan. 15, Magdalo party-list Rep. Gary Alejano claimed that the FAP project's "design was altered from the original".
He also accused HHI of surreptitiously inserting "disadvantageous" provisions, or "fine prints", into the contract that the Navy leadership and Lorenzana were unaware of.
Alejano also questioned the choice of HHI over its main rival for the project, Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers of India, which submitted a bid that is PHP700 million lower than the winning bidder.
Aside from this, there are claims that SAP Bong Go allegedly got involved in the choice of the CMS supplier.
SAP Go
The Philippine Daily Inquirer and online news outlet Rappler claimed that Go allegedly gave Lorenzana a "white paper" about the supplier to provide the CMS for the warships sometime in January 2017.
This document was passed on to Mercado with a marginal note, dated Jan. 12, 2017, signed by Lorenzana.
"To Admiral Mercado," Lorenzana wrote on a post-it. "Ronald, This was given to me by Bong Go. Go over it and prepare a report/rebuttal to be submitted to the Pres."
The Presidential Management Staff, which Go heads, also asked then Frigate Project Technical Working Group chairman Commodore Robert Empedrad to a meeting in Malacañang to discuss the CMS concern.
However, Go refuted sending the controversial document himself, while Lorenzana flatly denied Go interfered in the warships deal.
"My name has been unfairly dragged in this issue. I am not privy to the frigate transaction of the DND. I have never seen the controversial document that is alleged to have come from me, much less, handed the same to SND Lorenzana," he said in a statement issued on January 17.
"In fact, I will resign if it can be proven that I intervened. It should be emphasized that the frigate project was already a done deal in 2016 during the time of former President Aquino," Go added.
Lorenzana, Mercado and Empedrad likewise denied that Go intervened in the frigate project.
In a Radyo Pilipinas interview last Jan. 20, Mercado, cleared Go of any interference in the warships deal.
"Ilang beses kami na magkasama ni Secretary Bong Go, ilang beses kaming mag kausap. In fact, pag nag-escort ako kay President (Duterte) aboard foreign navy ships, gaya nung sa China, Pakistan, Japan, ni isang beses 'di kami nag-usap tungkol sa Navy frigate project (Secretary Go and I have met and spoken to each other a number of times, such as when I escorted the President aboard foreign navy ships, such as those of Chine, Pakistan, Japan. But not once did we talk about the Navy frigate project)," Mercado said.
Malacañang also cleared Go of the allegations after conducting an internal probe.
"An investigation has been conducted and it has been found that the allegations of Rappler are untrue and unfounded," Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque said on January 18.
The DND later on announced that the alleged "white paper" originated from Hanwha, one of the proponents for the CMS which was post-qualified by the PN for the FAP.
Timeline in review
For a better perspective on what have transpired thus far regarding the frigate project, the Philippine News Agency (PNA) has obtained a copy of the chronological order of key events relating to the Frigate Acquisition Project.
June 7, 2013 – Former Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin signed Acquisition Decision Memorandum No. 2013-019 to initiate the immediate implementation of the acquisition of two brand new Frigates for the Philippine Navy with an approved budget of PHP18 billion.
Dec. 4, 2013 – The first stage bidding was conducted wherein six proponents were declared eligible by the DND Special Bids and Awards Committee (SBAC), namely: Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co. Ltd. (DSME) – Korea; Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd. (Hyundai) – Korea; STX Offshore & Shipbuilding Co. Ltd. (STX O & S) – Korea; STX France S.A. – France; Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineering Ltd. GRSE – India; and Navantia SEP (Navantia) – Spain.
March 17, 2016 – The two lowest cost bidders were declared: Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE) with bid price of USD322 million or PHP15,047,704,000 (1USD = PHP46.732); and Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) with bid price of USD336,912,000 or PHP15,744,571,584.
April 30 to May 8, 2016 – GRSE was declared non-compliant to the financial requirements of the project as required by Section 23.5.2.6 of the Implementing Rules and Regulations (IRR) of RA 9184 or the Government Procurement Reform Act. Its Net Financial Contracting Capacity (NFCC) was found to be below the approved budget contract of PHP16 billion.
June 16, 2016 – DND Bids and Awards Committee declared HHI as the winning bidder and issued the Notice of Award in its favor.
Sept. 13, 2016 – DND Sec. Lorenzana sent a Notice of Award to Mr. Ki Yeong Sung with a corresponding contract price of PHP 15,744,571,584.00.
Oct. 24, 2016 – A contract agreement was signed by Sec. Delfin Lorenzana, Major Marlon B. Dayao, Comm. Robert A. Empedrad, Kisun Chung (Executive Vice President HHI) and Jae R. Kim (Senior Sales Officer of HHI's Special and Naval Shipbuilding Division)
Jan. 11, 2017 – Col. Leonardo D. Dela Paz, chief of the DND's Defense Acquisition Office, informed Mr. Ki Young Sund that the "Remarks on Makers" list are grossly disadvantageous to the PN and to the AFP/DND.
Feb. 8, 2017 - Mr. Ki Yeong Sung wrote a letter to the Defense Acquisition Office saying that HHI is entitled to choose HSC Naval Shield as the combat management system (CMS) for PN frigate, which is beneficial for both PN and HHI.
HHI said it can consider the CMS choice of the Navy if it is "willing to compensate USD9 million per ship which is aggregated sum of price difference for the system and service for installation, test and integration in our shipyard."
April 1, 2017 - Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado wrote a letter to Lorenzana stating the opinion that "Remarks" provisions in the contract are grossly disadvantageous to the PN and to the AFP/DND, saying: "This remarks, if permitted, are akin to a buyer (PN/DND) with his/her own money being told by the seller HHI on what to buy."
April 6, 2017 - Col. Dela Paz wrote a memorandum to Lorenzana, stating that the Thales offer, although compliant of the technical specifications, is not commercially competitive in view of the price difference of USD 14,050,000.00 as compared to the offer of HSC Naval Shield.
Commercial competitiveness is one of the requirements stipulated in the "Remarks" provision before the shipbuilder should consider the owner's preferred maker.
April 20, 2017 - Dela Paz informed the Assistant Chief of Naval Staff for Logistics that Lorenzana has approved the recommendation for the continuation of the Frigate Acquisition Project with the HHI-selected maker of the CMS.
Aug. 10, 2017 - In a memorandum addressed to the AFP Chief-of-Staff, Lorenzana said it is improper for the PN, which had post qualified the HSC Naval Shield CMS, to declare it as non-compliant during the project implementation.
Sept. 14, 2017 - Hanhwa issued a Certificate of Conformance with respect to the request of HHI on the CMS and Link 16 on the new frigates of the PN.
Dec. 8, 2017 - Lorenzana sent a letter to Mr. Kisun Chung, EVP of HHI, informing them that the request for amendments to the contract Agreement of the Payment terms and Delivery Schedule of the 2 units Frigate Acquisition Project is approved.
Dec. 18, 2017 - Mr. Park Moon Yung, Senior VP of HHI, sent a reply-letter to Lorenzana, thanking him for the approval of the amendments to the Contract Agreement of the Payment Terms.
At present, the FAP is proceeding with the other technical specifications of the combat ships.
On Monday, several key personalities mentioned in the frigate project, including representatives from HHI, are expected to attend the Senate investigation to shed light into the issues allegedly hounding the warship deal.
Go and Lorenzana have both welcomed the investigation as the perfect opportunity to air their side so that truth will be finally known.
And come Monday, as the Senate investigation begins and due process takes its course, the real truth will surely come out. (PNA)
Post by: 40niner on February 18, 2018, 06:15:34 PM
Let's see if the dates on the PNA article and the PhilGEPS screengrab match?
Quote from: adroth on February 18, 2018, 11:39:14 AM
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Post by: adroth on February 19, 2018, 09:01:37 PM
CMS to be acquired for frigates compliant to Navy specifications
By Priam Nepomuceno February 19, 2018, 7:46 pm
MANILA -- Department of National Defense (DND) Secretary Delfin Lorenzana on Monday assured the public that the combat management system (CMS), being acquired for the two frigates contracted by Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), is compliant to all the specifications set by the Navy.
"No, we are not settling for a less capable system, compliant system (Hanwha CMS), yan ang (that is the) term sa (in) procurement," Lorenzana noted.
Lorenzana made this statement shortly after Monday's Senate hearing where the Navy's Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) was tackled and the reasons why HHI opted to pick Hanwha over Thales Tacticos, the manufacturer preferred by former PN flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Ronald Joseph Mercado.
And while acknowledging that Thales Tacticos is a good CMS brand, the DND chief said the Hanwha CMS being selected to fit the Navy's first two missile-firing capable frigates is equally capable.
"We are not buying a lesser product. We are buying an equally capable product to be put into our ship(s)," he added.
Also, Lorenzana emphasized that Mercado's relief last December was brought about by the latter's refusal to comply with two of his memorandums on the CMS and pronouncements that he will have the project cancelled if Thales Tacticos was not selected to supply the above-mentioned equipment.
"(The reason for his relief as FOIC was) dahil dalawang beses na memo ko hindi n'ya sinusunod tapos, sa mga conference niya (sinasabi) na pag hindi (na)tuloy ang (Thales) Tacticos, ika-cancel niya ang FAP (The reason for his relief as FOIC was he disobeyed my memos twice and he says in his conferences that he will have the FAP cancelled if Thales Tacticos will not be selected)," the DND chief pointed out.
Also, Lorenzana said that it was Mercado who had the specification "Tactical Data Link 16" or the ability to transmit and receive data from various platforms in a bid to justify the preference for the Thales Tacticos CMS.
"Hindi ko alam may motivation siningit nila nung tapos na technical specifications nung Link 16, baka (para) ma-disqualify ang Hanhwa (I didn't know there was this motivation that they have inserted when the technical specifications of Link 16 were done. Maybe, it's for Hanhwa's disqualification)," he added.
The DND chief added that this specification was not present in the original specifications. Also, Lorenzana said he has no objections to acquiring the Thales Tacticos CMS provided that adequate funds are allotted for it.
The FAP has a contract of PHP18 billion including the weapon systems and munitions. Earlier, the DND chief said that using the Thales Tacticos CMS will shoot the price of the frigates by USD7 million per ship or USD14 million for the two vessels. (PNA)
Quote from: adroth on February 19, 2018, 09:01:37 PM
The need for Link16 wss actually specified in a Supplemental Bulletin
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on February 21, 2018, 03:11:44 PM
Just a thought on the cost of VLS maybe in the nex batch of PN frigates..
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2018/02/21/state-clears-dutch-apache-upgrades-kuwait-boats-finnish-weapons/
Finland has been cleared to spend $70 million on four Mk 41 Baseline VII Strike-Length Vertical Launching Systems, used to launch missiles off its upcoming fleet of new-build corvettes.
Even if it is FFBNW, there remains an incentive with the shipyard's preferred vendor to avoid integration issues.
Post by: sbhntr on February 23, 2018, 01:58:40 PM
Is this a loophole?
(from Adroth reply#81)
If the GRP can put mandatory GRP inspection points at milestones, it can give virtual control back to the buyer. HHI can choose which cms it wants (or on any subsystem) but the GRP has a say whether it is compliant or not….
From: https://www.facebook.com/Rep.AlejanoMagdalo/photos/pcb.1451480754977892/1451479794977988/?type=3&theater
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The commentary at the bottom is in reference to the following
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Arguably he was also referring to this clarification
Post by: Fortis93 on February 25, 2018, 02:38:22 AM
The inexperience of the PN in doing a project this big and technical is being clearly shown. This would definitely be a project with a lot of lessons learned. Even the wording is very vague in a lot of instances. "The CMS SHALL be compatible with link 16".....this can be interpreted as being in the future as "shall" can be interpreted as expressing something in the future tense. Hanwha is saying, their CMS would be compliant by 2019 and thus complying with "shall be compatible" requirement. They could have said, The CMS to be installed is a CMS that IS compatible with Link 16.
Post by: mamiyapis on February 25, 2018, 06:07:50 AM
Wording is so important, especially with requested capabilities like this, and the funny thing is Leo Almazan is correct in saying the inexperience of the Navy clearly shows.
I would have worded it as "The CMS must be CURRENTLY/PRESENTLY compatible with Link 16 as per MIL-STD 6016, etc etc, and delivered with a space to accommodate government provided Link16 radios and terminals. CMS must be readily able to integrate all related tactical datalink equipment."
From a companion thread on the FB extension
https://www.facebook.com/groups/rpdefense/permalink/1586102804808894/?comment_id=1586112041474637&reply_comment_id=1586407638111744&comment_tracking=%7B"tn"%3A"R"%7D
Post by: sbhntr on February 25, 2018, 10:30:01 AM
so after the contract was signed, was there a Post Award Orientation Conference conducted between the signing parties (with representation of contracts, legal, technical, manufacturing, etc) were vague wordings / provisons were straightened out and both parties are on the same page, recorded and signed? if none was conducted, it may not be too late to do one....
Post by: mamiyapis on February 25, 2018, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: sbhntr on February 25, 2018, 10:30:01 AM
I believe this was the "workshop" both FOICs were referring to in the hearings. Hence the "clarifications" on Link-16 that the Navy believed disqualified Hanwha's Naval Shield
Post by: adroth on March 08, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
Lorenzana: Warship in controversial Navy frigate deal to be delivered in 2020
Published March 7, 2018 10:47pm
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/645850/lorenzana-warship-in-controversial-navy-frigate-deal-to-be-delivered-in-2020/story/
Despite the controversy it is embroiled in, the Philippine Navy's frigate acquisition project is continuing, with the warship expected to be delivered in 2020, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana confirmed.
Lorenzana made this pronouncement on Wednesday after attending the House Committee on National Defense and Security inquiry into the deal, where he served as a resource speaker.
"So it is continuing now. It will be delivered in 2020. Medyo made-delay lang ng six months, but it will be delivered," he told reporters in an ambush interview.
The frigate deal came to national attention after it was alleged to have provisions that would be "grossly disadvantageous" to the Philippine Navy and the Armed Forces of the Philippines.
But at the hearing, Lorenzana maintained that the frigate project was "above board," and the delivery of the warship would not have been delayed if not for the interference of the former Flag Officer in Command, Vice-Admiral Ronald Mercado.
It's final: PH Navy chief says Korean system to be installed in warships
Philippine Navy chief Robert Empedrad tells the Commission on Appointments that the selection of Hanwha is a 'done deal'
Camille Elemia
@CamilleElemia
Published 2:20 PM, March 14, 2018
Updated 8:46 AM, March 15, 2018
https://www.rappler.com/nation/198131-philippine-navy-empedrad-frigates-hanwha-commission-appointments
MANILA, Philippines – The Philippine Navy decided to use a Korean combat management system (CMS), and not a more tested Dutch system, for warships which are expected to be delivered by 2020.
During his confirmation hearing, Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad said it is already a done deal because the contract has been signed and Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), the contactor, already signed deals with its subcontractors, including Korean CMS supplier Hanwha Systems.
"It's a done deal. [HHI] already signed the contract with all subcontractors, [for equipment] like missiles, torpedoes, and other important subsystems," Empedrad told the Commission on Appointments (CA) national defense committee on Wednesday, March 14.
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Post by: LionFlyer on March 15, 2018, 09:13:12 PM
The original specifications called for a much less capable platform. The revised supplementary specifications increase the capabilities dramatically at no increase in budget.
One can argue that HHi were guilty of recklessly complying with the requirements and pulling bait and switch stunts later. But the reality when compared with frigate programmes of regional countries is it is challenging no matter how you look at it. And Re GRSE claims they could do the job at the same price, I would take it with a pinch of salt and a large contingency budget
Post by: mamiyapis on March 16, 2018, 02:32:35 PM
The Indians are notorious for undervaluing the job and then arguing for large cost overruns in the middle of the project. One need only look at majority of their national projects which have eneded either way over budget or cancelled because of runaway costs.
Quote from: LionFlyer on March 15, 2018, 09:13:12 PM
And Re GRSE claims they could do the job at the same price, I would take it with a pinch of salt and a large contingency budget
GSRE's capabilities must be taken with a grain of salt
CAG lays bare breaches in Navy's anti-sub corvettes
Jayanta Gupta | TNN | Updated: Jul 23, 2017, 03:38 IST
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/cag-lays-bare-breaches-in-navys-anti-sub-corvettes/articleshow/59719163.cms
According to one of the CAG's latest reports, the Directorate of Naval Design (DND) hadn't finalized the design for the ASW corvettes when issuing the Letter of Intent to Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE) Ltd in Kolkata. DND finalized the design in 2006 but continued to modify it till 2008.
"The drop in the achievement of the specified speed was mainly due to the increase in their weights by over 800 tonnes," the report states. The increase in weight of the corvettes was due to the adoption of various signature reduction measures or stealth capabilities. In a last ditch effort to maintain proper weight, the DND suggested in May 2009 that GRSE use composite superstructures instead of steel ones in the last three of four corvettes of the Kamorta-class being built by GRSE. This would bring down their weights by 70-80 tonnes each. However, due to the lead time required in procuring composite material from foreign vendors, GRSE is using them only in the last two ships that are yet to be delivered.
It was also observed during audit that the INS Kamorta and INS Kadmatt haven't been fitted with a particular weapon and sensor systems and can't perform to their full potential. Till December, 2016, the Harbour Acceptance Trials of the INS Kadmatt were still pending. Sea Acceptance Test (SAT) is also conducted to test a vessel's speed, maneuverability, equipment and safety features.
"It was observed that SAT on six weapons and sensors on the INS Kamorta and all weapons and sensors on INS Kadmatt are pending satisfactory completion. Thus, the effectiveness of the main features of anti-submarine warfare are yet to be proved," the report states.
Post by: adroth on April 02, 2018, 04:50:56 AM
The rest of SND Lorenzana's statements is in the original thread. Just adding this snippet so to tie this thread in with the other
Quote from: adroth on March 29, 2018, 10:55:05 PM
DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana's response to an open letter on the PH Navy's frigate project
(Editor's note: Below is the response of Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana to an open letter from Dr. Corazon PB Claudio that was published at Inquirer.net early this month. Claudio wrote a letter to Lorenzana to express her sentiments on the Frigate Acquisition Project of the Philippine Navy.)
CORAZON PE BENITO – CLAUDIO
President, Earth Institute Asia, Inc.
Unit 317 National Life Building
1100 Quezon City
Metro Manila, Philippines
Dear Dr. Claudio,
This is my response to your letter published 9 March 2018 on Inquirer.net, "Letter to fellow Ateneo MBA alum, DND Secretary Delfin N. Lorenzana." But first, I'd like you to know that I really appreciate your concern and avowed love for the Philippine Navy.
I have to reply primarily to correct the misrepresentation of facts being perpetrated by VAdm Mercado and his supporters. Your letter proved just how successful they have been in this regard. Please read on and tell me later who should apologize to whom.
I have always known the Philippine Navy as an excellent organization. It has garnered numerous awards and recognitions locally as well as internationally as you have enumerated in your letter. It must be pointed out, however, that these outstanding accomplishments were the result of the collective and cumulative efforts of our valiant sailors and marines, under the leadership of previous FOICs who preceded VAdm Mercado such as VAdm Alexander Pama, VAdm Jose Luis Alano, VAdm Jesus Millan, and VAdm Caesar Taccad, to name a few. It is, thus, unfair to attribute whatever gains the PN has achieved to one person alone. I have no doubt that Vadm Mercado had a sterling service in the Navy. What I am questioning was his actuations with regard to the Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) from June 2016 to November 2017 which has, regretfully, tarnished his good record.
There is nothing wrong with the FAP contract. All that needs to be done is for it to be implemented as is. I had our legal officers go over it before I signed it and again when VAdm Mercado raised the Combat Management System (CMS) question. I even had a private law firm go over the contract. They all came to the same conclusion: it is in order, in form and substance.
Let us go to the bone of contention – the CMS. These are the things I have derived from your letter which were also the same arguments of VAdm Mercado and Commo Villa during the Senate Hearing:
That due to the break-up of Hanwha-Thales partnership, there is only one CMS option left – Tacticosof Thales. You also stated that, "After the Hanwha-Thales dissolution, wasn't VadmMercado correct in just focusing on Thales, which was the only CMS left legally in the contract? Hanwha-Thales is already non-existent, Hanwha System which Hyundai wants to substitute now, is not in the contract and is, thus non-existent legally in the FAP."
This is the most egregious argument in this whole discourse. What are the facts? During the Submission and Opening of Bid Envelopes (SOBE), HHI submitted two Combat Management Systems. These are: Tacticos developed by Thales Nederland and Naval Shield Integrated Combat Management System (NSICMS) developed by Hanwha – Thales Company (HTC) of the Republic of Korea (which became simply Hanwha Systems in October 2016 when Thales and Hanwha severed their ties). The members of the PN Technical Working Group (PN TWG) verified, inspected and evaluated carefully the technical documents of Tacticos and NSICMS and the PN TWG affirmed that both CMS are compliant and both satisfy the technical requirements of the procuring entity, as stipulated in the bidding documents and were therefore "rated as pass" by the DND Bids and Awards Committee (BAC), as recommended by the PN TWG. Note that only their respective CMS were rated, not the companies themselves. As can be gleaned from above, the PN TWG did not rate Thales Nederland or Hanwha-Thales but their systems. When Hanwha-Thales broke up, the NSICMS remained with Hanwha. So, what disqualification was VAdm Mercado talking about? Besides, Hyundai would not be so foolish as to choose a non-existent sub-system.
Moreover, as clearly stated in the Post Qualification Evaluation Summary Report dated 14 June 2016, particularly on the aspect of the "Technical Proposal," the DND-PN Post Qualification Team, of which VAdm Mercado was the Project Manager, affirmed that all sub-systems in the maker's list are compliant with the technical requirements of the PN.
You also stated, "I just hope that when your negative feelings are gone, you will acknowledge that VAdmMercado was just doing his job to ensure compliance with the contract."
Firstly, feelings had nothing to do with my decision to relieve him. It was based on hard facts alone.
Secondly, this misleading argument (purportedly to ensure compliance with the contract) was also used by VAdm Mercado during the hearing at the House of Representatives (HoR). In fact, he went further by saying that he was just protecting those involved in the contract from any problems later on. What a noble intention! But he is plainly and simply fudging the issue. If there is a person who wants the contract implemented according to our laws, it is no other than the signatory to the Contract and the Head of Procuring Entity (HOPE) – me, the SND. In fact, VAdm Mercado was interfering with the procurement process when he tried to force Hyundai to install his chosen CMS, which is a violation of the Contract.
VAdm Mercado and Commo Villa also argued during the Senate Hearing that when Hyundai agreed (during a workshop held in September 2016) "that the CMS shall be compatible with the Tactical Data Link 16 (TDL16), Hanwha's NSICMS has been disqualified because only 'Tacticos is compatible with TDL 16' at that time."
Likewise, VAdm Mercado, thru the Philippine Navy Project Management Team (PN PMT) submitted to the DND a position paper asserting that Hyundai must "show proof and objective quality evidence that the CMS is compatible with Link 16 being used by at least one (1) frigate or a similar type of naval vessel from the country of origin or being used by at least one (1) frigate each from two (2) foreign countries as part of the Critical Design Review (CDR)."
Again, this is purely and simply clouding the issue. What are the facts? The phrase "show proof and objective quality evidence that the CMS is compatible with Link 16" does not have any merit as far as the contract is concerned. Instead, the phrase "CMS shall be compatible with Link 16" was part of the contract under the Tactical Data Link (TDL) portion. During the one-week workshop held from 26-30 September 2016, the FAP TWG, chaired by then Commodore Robert A. Empedrad, AFP, requested HHI to include in the contract the phrase, "The CMS shall be compatible with Link 16" because the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) plans to acquire TDL-16 sometime in the future. During the SOBE, this was not part of the technical requirements because what was initially required was just a space provided in the ship for the future installation of TDL-16. Acceding to the Navy's request, HHI agreed to insert in the contract the phrase, "The CMS shall be compatible with Link 16" without additional cost. As agreed, HHI assures the DND that the TDL 16 will be integrated with the NSICMS before the delivery of the two frigates.
On 14 September 2017, Hanwha submitted a Compliance Certificate to the Defense Acquisition Office (DAO) stating that its NSICMS is compatible with TDL 16, which should have put to rest the CMS/TDL 16 issue. Unfortunately, it did not because VAdm Mercado still insisted on Tacticos.
A lot of talk has also come out on the supposed superiority of Tacticos over the NSICMS. But the superiority of Tacticos is irrelevant to the FAP. The requirement of the Procurement Law (RA 9184) is for the PN TWG to rate competing systems as either PASS or FAIL. The Law did not say "choose the best product." The PN TWG headed by VAdm Mercado himself rated both Tacticos and NSICMS as PASS. This is clearly indicated in the contract. Senator Recto's statement during the Senate hearing, "Pagbigyan na natin sila sa kanilang gusto," cannot be considered as this would exceed the authorized budget and therefore violate RA 9184.
You also said, "Faced with these uncertainties, our PN Technical Team is right in choosing Thales Tacticos which has proven performance. Any other CMS that has not been well tested just increases the risk to our frigates." Again, I refer you to Section 18, Revised IRR of RA 9184 – Reference to Brand Names: "Specification for procurement of goods shall be based on relevant characteristics, functionality and/or performance requirements. Reference to brand names shall not be allowed, except for items or parts that are compatible with the existing fleet or equipment of the same make and brand, to maintain the performance, functionality and useful life of equipment."
Post by: adroth on April 05, 2018, 10:44:16 PM
The Frigate Acquisition Project has spawn so many side-discussions it is now impractical to merge all of these threads into a single master thread. For that reason, this thread is being turned into a thread index. Discussions that are central to the procurement of the first frigate will remain here. But the various side discussions will be discussed in the their respective threads.
DND body approves design of Navy frigate project
By Priam Nepomuceno April 5, 2018, 10:18 pm
MANILA -- A committee under the Department of National Defense (DND) has approved the Critical Design Review (CDR) of its PHP18-billion Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) which is under contract with South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), the Philippine Navy confirmed Thursday.
PN spokesperson Capt. Lued Lincuna said the Technical Inspection and Acceptance Committee (TIAC), headed by Commodore Alberto Carlos, approved the CDR of the project last March 23.
The CDR was handed to the TIAC last January. It will serve as the "bible" of the shipbuilder while constructing the frigates.
Lincuna said the TIAC acceptance of the CDR marks a significant step forward and a major milestone for the project which consists of the approval of 71 critical detailed design drawings as submitted by HHI.
These drawings shall then be the basis of HHI to proceed with the project.
The next significant milestone will now be the ceremonial steel cutting which will likely be held on April 30 at HHI Complex, Ulsan, South Korea which will be attended by a delegation from the DND/PN to mark this important event.
It can be recalled that on Oct. 24, 2016, the contract agreement for the FAP was signed by DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana as Head of Procuring Entity (HOPE), and Mr. Kisun Chung, HHI owner and vice president, for the construction of two new 2,600 ton frigates that are missile-capable and equipped with sensors and systems for modern naval warfare.
Lorenzana has expressed his utmost desire for the timely completion of the project.
Indeed, the completion of the CDR phase and the start of the steel cutting show that the FAP is moving forward without delays in accordance with the stipulations of the contract.
The two missile-armed frigates are expected to be delivered in 2020 which would cement the country's vision of having a strong and credible Navy. (PNA)
Post by: Invictus on April 07, 2018, 01:21:26 PM
Steel cutting for 2 frigates starts April 30 (http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php/articles/1031203)
By Priam Nepomuceno April 7, 2018, 10:25 am
MANILA -- The steel cutting for the two missile-armed frigates, which is under contract with South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), is expected to start on April 30.
"The next significant milestone will now be the ceremonial steel cutting, which will likely be held on April 30 at the HHI Complex in Ulsan, South Korea, to be attended by a delegation from DND/PN (Department of National Defense/Philippine Navy) to mark this important milestone," Navy spokesperson, Capt. Lued Lincuna, said Thursday.
Steel cutting signals the official start of a vessel's construction.
The two frigates are capable of engaging air, surface and sub-surface threats. Including their weapons system and munitions, the vessels have a budget of PHP18 billion.
Earlier, a committee under the DND approved the Critical Design Review (CDR) of the Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP).
Lincuna said the Technical Inspection and Acceptance Committee (TIAC), headed by Commodore Alberto Carlos, approved the CDR of the project last March 23.
The CDR, handed to the TIAC last January, will serve as the shipbuilder's "bible" while constructing the frigates.
Lincuna said TIAC's acceptance of the CDR marks a significant step forward and a milestone for the project, which consists of the approval of 71 critical detailed design drawings as submitted by HHI.
These drawings shall be the basis of HHI to proceed with the project.
It can be recalled that on Oct. 24, 2016, the contract agreement for the FAP was signed by Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana as head of the procuring entity, and Kisun Chung, HHI owner and vice president, for the construction of two new 2,600-ton frigates that are missile-capable and equipped with sensors and systems for modern naval warfare. (PNA)
Putting this timeline into perspective.
Quote from: Invictus on April 07, 2018, 01:21:26 PM
Here is the original timeline
This is where we stand now
Milestone Description Details
Critical Design Review Approval and submission of Plan and Detail Design for the project
Purchase order of steel / major equipment Completed March 23, 2018 under Commodore Alberto Carlos. See here (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=35.msg10397#msg10397).
Original schedule: 10 months after issuance of NTP
Steel Cutting Frigate 1 At least 50% of the steel for Frigate 1 received / available on site of builder
Cutting of steel required for two blocks of Frigate 1 completed Scheduled for April 30, 2018. See here (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=35.msg10407#msg10407).
Cutting of steel required for two blocks of Frigate 2 completed n/a
Keel Laying Frigate 1 Completion of at least two blocks of Frigate 1
Delivery of major equipment identified during design review n/a
HHI frigates to boost Navy capability to protect maritime domains
By Priam Nepomuceno April 11, 2018, 11:22 am
MANILA -- The arrival of the two missile-armed frigates, to be built by Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), is expected to greatly boost the Philippine Navy's (PN) capability to protect its territorial waters.
"The two warships (upon delivery) will certainly enhance the capability of the PN to guard the Philippine maritime territory and its exclusive economic zone," Navy spokesperson, Capt. Lued Lincuna, said Tuesday.
The two frigates, which are designed to be capable of engaging surface, subsurface, and air threats, and electronic warfare, are worth PHP18 billion including their weapons system and munitions.
They are expected to be delivered in 2020 and 2021. Earlier, Lincuna said that steel-cutting for the two ships is expected to start on April 30.
"The next significant milestone will now be the ceremonial steel cutting, which will likely be held on April 30 at the HHI Complex in Ulsan, South Korea, to be attended by a delegation from DND/PN (Department of National Defense/Philippine Navy) to mark this important milestone," he said.
Lincuna said the TIAC's acceptance of the CDR marks a significant step forward and a milestone for the project, which consists of the approval of 71 critical detailed design drawings as submitted by HHI. These drawings shall be the basis of HHI to proceed with the project.
It can be recalled that on Oct. 24, 2016, the contract agreement for the FAP was signed by Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana - as head of the procuring entity, and Kisun Chung, HHI owner and vice president.
The contract is for the construction of two new 2,600-ton frigates that are missile-capable and equipped with sensors and systems for modern naval warfare. (PNA)
Did the steel cutting schedule slip? :o
Quote from: adroth on April 19, 2018, 11:32:12 AM
DSA 2018: Hanwha defends with Naval Shield CMS
19th April 2018 - 00:30 GMT | by Gordon Arthur in Kuala Lumpur
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/digital-battlespace/dsa-2018-hanwha-defends-naval-shield-cms/
The first steel cutting on the initial frigate for the Philippines is scheduled to take place in July, Kim revealed. This frigate should be delivered to the PN before the end of 2019.
Reportedly still set for the end of the month. Looks like the alternative date above is a typo.
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on April 19, 2018, 03:59:24 PM
based also on the statement, it will also be delivered in 2019, earlier than 2020 previously mentioned..
Three days and counting
Via shoulder tap:
"Philippine delegation expected to arrive in HHI tomorrow Saturday...everything is set for steel cutting on 30
Acquisition Decision Memorandum for Frigate Lot 2 (SAM,SSM) has been signed by SND
Frigate Lot 3 (torpedo,chaffs decoys) is to be.presented to PNDAS cluster for inclusion in Horizon 2"
Post by: redcomet_m on April 27, 2018, 11:30:18 PM
^is there clearance to reveal possible contenders?
Quote from: redcomet_m on April 27, 2018, 11:30:18 PM
The DND, and vendors authorized by the DND, are the official sources of that level of information.
Anyone who shares that information outside of official channels is one of the following:
- In violation of orders
- Parties with vested interest
S. Korea, Philippines vow close military ties
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2018/04/30/0301000000AEN20180430007400315.html
See also: https://twitter.com/adroth_ph/status/990848360474034176
SEOUL, April 30 (Yonhap) -- The defense chiefs of South Korea and the Philippines agreed Monday to move forward security and defense industry cooperation between the two countries, according to Seoul's Ministry of National Defense.
Filipino Defense Secretary Delfin N. Lorenzana came to Korea to attend the steel cutting ceremony for two frigates the Southeast Asian country has ordered.
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/1-13.jpg)
South Korean Defense Minister Song Young-moo (R) shakes hands with his Filipino counterpart Delfin N. Lorenzana in Seoul on April 30, 2018, in this photo released by Song`s office. (Yonhap)
Here is the original timeline. Next milestone . . . keel laying 8 months after.
Post by: adroth on May 01, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
Hyundai Heavy Industries to start construction of PH Navy's frigate
By: Frances G. Mangosing - @inquirerdotnet INQUIRER.net / 07:39 PM
South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries will finally start the construction of the Philippine Navy's first missile-capable frigate, one of the country's biggest military modernization projects worth P18 billion.
The steel-cutting ceremony was held on Monday at the company's headquarters in Ulsan, South Korea's state media Yonhap News reported.
Read more: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/166416/hyundai-heavy-industries-start-construction-ph-navys-frigate#ixzz5EGFi57FR
Cutting of steel required for two blocks of Frigate 1 completed May 1, 2018.
Cutting of steel required for two blocks of Frigate 2 completed. ETA September. Three months ahead of the original six months schedule. n/a
Original schedule: 18 months after issuance of NTP, 6 months from Steel cutting of Frigate #1
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Post by: adroth on May 02, 2018, 05:43:11 AM
Frigates Launch Puts Philippines-South Korea Defense Relations into Focus
A recent trip once again put the spotlight on the defense collaboration underway between the two countries.
https://thediplomat.com/2018/05/frigates-launch-puts-philippines-south-korea-defense-relations-into-focus/
This week, Philippine Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana was in South Korea for a bilateral visit. Lorenzana's trip once again put the spotlight on the defense collaboration underway between the two countries.
As I have noted before in these pages, South Korea has been a key partner for the Philippines as it attempts to boost its limited defense capabilities. Though the defense relationship has been growing in other areas too, the aspect that receives the most public attention is the defense deals that Seoul has been involved in, be it the transfer of 12 FA-50 fighter jets to Manila by state-owned Korea Aerospace Industries or the sale of two frigates from Hyundai Heavy Industries, which had been one of the biggest line items in Philippine military modernization.
South Korea's defense ministry said that Lorenzana's meeting with his South Korean counterpart Song Young-moo also saw the two countries touch on other bilateral and regional defense issues. Bilaterally, both sides pledged to continue their collaboration on defense equipment and other related areas, a general articulation that avoided the specifics that might have stoked further controversy.
Now we know the HHI hull number "P159" came from. It for "Project 159"
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/p159.png)
The Korean press release
http://www.hhi.co.kr/Public/pub01_2?page=1&ndate=2018-05-02&bidx=2637&seek=&SearchName=
현대重, 필리핀 최신예 호위함 건조 착수
2018-05-02페이스북트위터
필리핀 호위함 착공식
- 2016년 필리핀에서 수주한 2천600톤급 2척 중 1번함 착공
- 태풍과 열대성 기후 등 거친 해상 조건에서도 작전 수행 가능
- 2021년 상반기까지 필리핀 국방부에 2척 인도 예정
현대중공업이 필리핀에서 수주한 최신예 호위함의 본격적인 건조에 들어갔습니다.
현대중공업은 1일(화) 울산 본사에서 강환구 사장과 델핀 로렌자나(Delfin Lorenzana) 필리핀 국방부 장관, 레이문도 엘레판테(Raymundo Elefante) 필리핀 국방부 차관, 로버트 임페드라(Robert Empedrad) 필리핀 해군 참모총장 등이 참석한 가운데 2천600톤급(배수량) 호위함의 착공식을 가졌습니다.
이날 착공한 함정은 현대중공업이 지난 2016년 10월 필리핀 국방부로부터 수주한 2척의 동형 호위함 중 첫 번째로, 길이 107미터, 폭 12미터 규모의 다목적 전투함입니다.
이 호위함은 최대 25노트(약 46㎞/h)로 4천500해리 이상의 항속거리를 보유해 원해 순시 임무를 수행할 수 있습니다.
특히 태풍과 열대성 기후 등 필리핀의 거친 해상 조건에서도 우수한 작전 성능과 생존성을 갖도록 설계됐습니다.
또한 76㎜ 함포와 함대공 미사일, 어뢰, 헬리콥터 등 다양한 무기체계를 탑재해 대공(對空), 대잠(對潛) 작전을 두루 수행할 수 있습니다.
현대중공업은 이날 착공함 호위함을 내년 5월에 진수해 2020년 하반기에 필리핀 국방부에 인도하고, 두 번째 호위함은 올해 9월 착공해 2021년 상반기에 인도할 예정입니다.
한편, 현대중공업은 지난 1980년 12월 한국 최초의 전투함인 '울산함'을 건조한 이후 지금까지 이지스함과 KDX-Ⅱ 구축함, 초계·호위함, 잠수함 등 한국 해군의 주력 함정을 건조했으며, 필리핀을 비롯해 뉴질랜드, 방글라데시, 베네수엘라 등 해외에서도 다수의 함정을 수주한 바 있습니다.
Google translation. Free beer for the translation that's just . . . wrong ;D
Hyundai Heavy started construction of the latest frigate in the Philippines
2018-05-02 FaceBook Twitter
Filipino escort ceremony ceremony
- Started construction of 1 out of 2 2,600-ton class orders received in the Philippines in 2016
- Operate in rough sea conditions such as typhoon and tropical climate
Two ships will be delivered to the Philippine Ministry of Defense by the first half of 2021
Hyundai Heavy Industries entered into full-scale construction of its latest escort, which was awarded in the Philippines.
Hyundai Heavy Industries Co., Ltd. (HHI), headquartered in Ulsan, will be headquartered in Gangwon-Gu, Delfin Lorenzana, Philippine Minister of Defense, Raymundo Elefante, Philippine Deputy Secretary of Defense, and Robert Empedrad, Philippine Navy's Chief of Staff And attended the groundbreaking ceremony of the 2,600-ton class (displacement) frigate in attendance.
It is the first multi-purpose battleship with a length of 107 meters and a width of 12 meters, the first of two homosexual frigates that Hyundai Heavy Industries has received from the Philippine Ministry of Defense in October 2016.
This frigate can hold up to 25 knots (46 km / h) with a range of 4,500 nautical miles or more, which means that you can carry out your mission at will.
Designed for superior operational performance and survivability, especially in harsh marine conditions in the Philippines, including typhoons and tropical climate.
In addition, it can carry out both anti-air and anti-submarine operations by installing various weapons systems such as 76mm guns, ship-to-air missiles, torpedoes, and helicopters.
Hyundai Heavy Industries will start construction of the fleet in May next year and deliver it to the Philippine Ministry of Defense in the second half of 2020. The second fleet will begin construction in September this year and deliver it in the first half of 2021.
Meanwhile, Hyundai Heavy Industries built Korea's first naval vessel "Ulsan Hamm" in December 1980, and since then has built the main naval vessels such as Aegis ship, KDX-II destroyer, helicopter, frigate and submarine. New Zealand, Bangladesh, and Venezuela.
Hyundai cuts steel for Philippine Navy's first HDF-3000 frigate
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Navy International
http://www.janes.com/article/79726/hyundai-cuts-steel-for-philippine-navy-s-first-hdf-3000-frigate
- Hyundai has begun work on the first of two new frigates on order for the Philippine Navy
- Service is expected to receive the first frigate in the second half of 2020
South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) has held a steel-cutting ceremony for the first of two 107 m frigates on order for the Philippine Navy (PN).
Post by: LionFlyer on May 03, 2018, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: adroth on May 02, 2018, 02:49:50 PM
..the first of two homosexual frigates that Hyundai Heavy Industries has received from the Philippine Ministry of Defense in October 2016.
Quote from: LionFlyer on May 03, 2018, 10:57:40 PM
Heh . . . yep ;D
Shamelessly borrowing from Dr Demented's reaction on the mod-only forum: "I guess we're only going to have two frigates, unless we're open to adoption"
Post by: WApinoy2 on May 06, 2018, 08:55:14 AM
This is an interesting weapon simulation for the New PN Frigate showing ranges of weapon and sonar detections.
https://youtu.be/DwNFCqRc0iw (https://youtu.be/DwNFCqRc0iw)
Video from the 120th PN anniversary
From: https://www.facebook.com/PTVph/videos/2147378628656129/
Post by: dr demented on June 21, 2018, 04:36:05 PM
Navy to get additional missile-armed frigates
By Priam Nepomuceno June 21, 2018, 3:46 pm
MANILA -- Aside from the two missile-armed frigates now undergoing construction at Hyundai Heavy Industries in South Korea, the Philippine Navy (PN) will be getting additional ships of the same class, Defense spokesperson Arsenio Andolong said Wednesday.
Acquisition for these additional frigates will start during Horizon Two of the Revised Armed Forces of the Philippines Modernization Program (RAFPMP), which is scheduled for 2018 to 2022 and has a budget of roughly PHP300 billion.
"In the PN, you will find this interesting. Aside from the two frigates that are currently being constructed, kukuha pa tayo ng additional (frigates)," Andolong said.
He, however, acknowledged that he has no idea how much money would be provided for the acquisition of these additional frigates.
"Yun ang hindi ko pa alam, dahil siyempre iba-budget, ia-apportion pa yung PHP300 billion (That is what I do not know yet. It's because there will be a budget allocation. The PHP300 billion will be apportioned)," he stressed.
The two frigates being built by Hyundai Heavy Industries has a contract of PHP18 billion, including its weapon systems and munitions.
It is designed to be capable of engaging air, surface and sub-surface threats. Deliveries are expected to start by 2020 and end on 2021. (PNA)
Cutting of steel required for two blocks of Frigate 2 completed. ETA September. Three months ahead of the original six months schedule. September, 2018
Shoulder-tap confirms: Keel-laying of P159 is complete
Title: Keel laying of Frigate #1 (P159)
The Frigate Acquisition Project (FAP) for the Philippine Navy (PN) has reached another milestone through the Keel Laying Ceremony for the Frigate 1 on October 16, 2018, 10 o'clock in the morning at Ulsan, South Korea.
Keel-laying for 1st PH missile-armed frigate now a done deal
By Priam Nepomuceno October 17, 2018, 5:37 pm
MANILA — The Philippine Navy (PN) announced that the keel-laying ceremony for one of two missile-armed frigates, contracted to Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), formally took place in Ulsan, South Korea Tuesday.
Commander Jonathan Zata, Navy spokesperson, on Wednesday said the ceremony, which took place at 10 a.m. (Korea time), was attended by PN flag-officer-in-command, Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad; Defense Acquisition Office director Leodegario Decena Dela Paz; Naval Sea Systems chief, Rear Admiral Giovanni Carlo J. Bacordo; Offshore Combat Force head; Commodore Caesar Bernard Valencia; and PN project supervisor, Capt. Sergio Bartolome.
Also present was HHI senior vice president Yun Kong Yong.
The Philippines and HHI signed a PHP16-billion contract for two missile-armed frigates with another PHP2 billion set aside for its weapon systems and munition.
Projected delivery date of the first frigate is by 2020 while the second one is in 2021.
"The ceremony was conducted at the building dock number 6 of the Special and Naval Shipbuilding Division of HHI. Three blocks of the first PN frigate (with HHI Project Number 159) was installed on the dock," Bartolome added.
Keel-laying formally marks the start of the ship's construction and is among the four highlights of a vessel life with the other three being launching, commissioning and decommissioning.
The keel is also considered the backbone of any ship and breaking it will result in the destruction and sinking of any water craft.
Steel-cutting for the first frigate took place last April. (PNA)
Post by: hotandwild on October 25, 2018, 04:41:30 AM
Progress steady in construction of PH Navy's first missile frigate
By Priam Nepomuceno, October 24, 2018, 12:46 pm
MANILA -- The Philippine Navy said the construction of the country's first missile-armed frigate is steadily progressing.
"(The construction of) our (first) frigate is moving forward. It will arrive in February (or) March of 2020. All systems go and we should be happy for our country," Navy flag-officer-in-command, Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad, said during an interview with reporters late Monday.
The keel-laying for the frigate took place in Ulsan, South Korea last October 16.
The Philippines and Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) signed a PHP16 billion contract for two missile-armed frigates, with another PHP2 billion set aside for its weapon systems and munition.
The projected delivery date for the first frigate is in 2020 and the second in 2021.
"The ceremony was conducted at Building Dock No. 6 of the Special and Naval Shipbuilding Division of HHI. Three blocks of the first PN frigate (with HHI Project No. 159) was installed on the dock," Capt. Sergio Bartolome, the Navy officer supervising the project, earlier said.
Keel-laying signals the start of the ship's construction and is among the four highlights of a vessel's life, the other three being the launch, commissioning and decommissioning.
The keel is considered the backbone of any ship and breaking or destroying it will result in the destruction and sinking of any water craft. The steel-cutting for the first frigate took place last April. (PNA)
http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1051963 (http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1051963)
Lorenzana reveals names of PH's first-missile capable frigates
By Priam Nepomuceno December 20, 2018, 12:18 pm
MANILA -- The two missile-armed frigates now being constructed by South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) will be named BRP Antonio Luna and BRP Jose Rizal, two of the country's leading patriots.
This was bared by Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana when asked on the possible names of the two ships Thursday.
He added that these names are fitting as they are of Filipino heroes.
Rizal, the country's national hero, is known for his writings, which inspired the Philippine Revolution, against the abuses committed by Spanish colonial authorities while Luna is known for his staunch resistance against the Americans during the Philippine-American War.
The construction of the first missile-armed frigates is going smoothly, Philippine Navy (PN) flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad said earlier.
"(Construction for) our (first-missile) frigate is moving forward, darating na s'ya sa February (or) March of 2020, all systems go and we should very happy, we should be happy for our country," he added.
The keel-laying for the first-missile-armed frigate took place last Oct. 16 in Ulsan, South Korea while the steel-cutting for the second ship took place last September 17.
HHI is expected to lay the keel for the second frigate by the first quarter of 2019.
The Philippines and HHI signed a PHP16-billion contract for two missile-armed frigates, with another PHP2 billion set aside for its weapon systems and munition. The projected delivery date for the first frigate is by 2020 and the second one, in 2021.
"The ceremony was conducted at the building dock number 6 of the Special and Naval Shipbuilding Division of HHI. Three blocks of the first PN frigate (with HHI Project Number 159) was installed on the dock," Capt. Sergio Bartolome, the PN officer supervising the project, earlier said.
Keel-laying formally starts the ship construction and is among the four highlights of a vessel's life, with the other three being launching, commissioning and decommissioning.
The keel is also considered the backbone of any ship and its breakage will result in the destruction and sinking of any water craft. The steel-cutting for the first frigate took place last April. (PNA)
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/hhi.png)
Delivery of major equipment identified during design review October 16, 2018
Arrival of 2 frigates to ease PH Navy patrol missions
By Priam Nepomuceno January 11, 2019, 12:10 pm
http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1058596?fbclid=IwAR2x0Ylkxdi67zkZg9B8QKAwS6hopaLTpLd0dQIUNGjFa8mlXuL-yXmCdUU
MANILA -- The Philippine Navy (PN) will be in a more comfortable position to carry out its patrol mandate once the two missile-armed frigates, currently being constructed by South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), gets delivered in two years' time.
Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana made the statement Friday when asked whether the Navy has sufficient assets to perform its duties, as several of its most capable ships are slated for periodic maintenance and upgrades.
This includes its flagship, the BRP Gregorio del Pilar (FF-15), which is still awaiting its replacement propellers following its grounding at the Hasa-Hasa Shoal on August 29 last year.
The ship is expected to become available for patrol duties by the end of the year.
"Hindi naman sabay sabay na pupunta sa repair dock 'yang mga yan. Scheduling lang yan (These ships will not be repaired all at the same time. It is a matter of scheduling). In two years' time, when we get our two frigates, we will be more comfortable," he said in a message to the Philippine News Agency (PNA).
HHI is expected to deliver the first ship by 2020 and the second by 2021.
The Philippines and HHI signed a PHP16-billion contract for two missile-armed frigates, with another PHP2 billion set aside for its weapon systems and munition.
When asked whether the defense department is planning to acquire additional Hamilton-class cutters from the US, which are being decommissioned and replaced with newer vessels, Lorenzana said the Philippines will wait first for the US to offer the ships to the country.
"No, we are not. We will await their offer and study if the acquisition is in line with our PN modernization," he added.
The Hamilton-class cutters were converted by the PN into the frigates, BRP Gregorio del Pilar, BRP Ramon Alcaraz (FF-16), and BRP Andres Bonifacio (FF-17). (PNA)
Post by: firstknight on January 25, 2019, 10:20:40 PM
as per maxdefense, frigate 1 is brp jose rizal & frigate 2 is brp antonio luna
DND opens bids for ammo of 2 PH Navy frigates
By Priam Nepomuceno February 5, 2019, 1:25 pm
http://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1061017?fbclid=IwAR3YUGjeCwShaFimj5OXg5N2QVA-Cpk-5LJlupS1eM7sr3Kgoq2Iwvi98VE
MANILA -- The Department of National Defense (DND) on Tuesday announced that it has begun the acquisition process for the ammunition needed to arm the 76-mm automatic main cannons and 30-mm secondary cannons of the two missile-equipped frigates, being constructed by South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI).
An invitation to bid bulletin posted on the DND website indicated that PHP77,536,964 is the approved budget for the so-called Frigate Acquisition Project Lot 2C Sublot-1 or the acquisition for the 76-mm ammunition.
Meanwhile, the budget for the Frigate Acquisition Project Lot 2C Sublot-2 or the acquisition for the 30-mm ammunition, is placed at PHP100 million. Both will be sourced from the AFP Modernization Trust Fund.
Winning bidders are required to deliver the items within 240 calendar days upon receipt of the Notice to Proceed.
They must also have completed a similar project in the past 10 years, DND Bids and Awards Committee 1 chair, Assistant Secretary Manuel Felino V. Ramos, said in the bulletin.
The pre-bid conference for both projects will be held at the DND Bids and Awards Committee Conference Room, Basement, Left Wing, DND Building, Camp Aguinaldo, Quezon City at 10 a.m. on February 7.
The opening of the bids will be held at the same venue at 10 a.m. on February 21.
Earlier, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said that the two missile-armed frigates being constructed by HHI will be named BRP Antonio Luna and BRP Jose Rizal, two of the country's leading patriots.
He added that these names are fitting as they came from Filipino heroes.
Rizal is considered the country's national hero for his writing against the abuses committed by Spanish colonial authorities that inspired the Philippine Revolution.
Luna, meanwhile, is known for his staunch resistance against the Americans during the Philippine-American War.
The construction for the first missile-armed frigates is proceeding smoothly, Philippine Navy (PN) flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad announced.
"(Construction for) our (first-missile) frigate is moving forward. It will arrive in February (or) March of 2020. All systems go and we should very happy. We should be happy for our country," he added.
The keel-laying for the first-missile-armed frigate took place in Ulsan, South Korea on October 16 last year, with steel-cutting for the second ship taking place last September 17.
Keel-laying formally starts the ship's construction and is among the four highlights of a vessel life with the other three being the launch, commissioning and decommissioning.
The keel is also considered the backbone of any ship and breakage will result in the destruction and sinking of any water craft.
The steel-cutting for the first frigate took place last April. (PNA)
Post by: adroth on March 09, 2019, 01:48:44 AM
SAM selected
Quote from: adroth on March 09, 2019, 12:58:05 AM
http://dnd.gov.ph/transparency/procurement/DND_BAC/2019/NOP/NOA%20MBDA%20FRANCE.pdf
(http://defenseph.net/bootcamp/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2-3.jpg)
Notice of Award
Philippine Navy's first missile-armed frigate set for May launch
By: Frances Mangosing -
Reporter / @FMangosingINQ INQUIRER.net / 04:15 PM March 11, 2019
MANILA, Philippines – The Philippine Navy's first of two missile-armed frigates will be launched in May this year.
In an interview with military radio station DWDD, Philippine Navy chief Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad said he would be with Defense Sec. Delfin Lorenzana in South Korea from May 17 to 19 to witness the launching.
The launching of BRP Jose Rizal will be followed by the keel-laying of the second missile-armed frigate BRP Antonio Luna, Empedrad said.
Read more: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1094376/philippine-navys-first-missile-armed-frigate-set-for-may-launch#ixzz5htIwm7Wt
Interesting... if the measuring tool is accurate, then it means the information about it being shrunk was wrong.
If that was wrong, then what else has been shared that is inaccurate?
Google Map time stamp for this view is February this year
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on April 15, 2019, 10:17:40 AM
Based on the picture, can we measure it from end to end, Sir A?
Quote from: El_Filibusterismo1978 on April 15, 2019, 10:17:40 AM
thanks sir A..
Post by: pyuron on April 16, 2019, 01:36:23 PM
Can you verify Sir A if this is the ship beside the BRP Rizal?
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If it is, then it's a quite a shame that we didn't get to take a peek of the frigate..
That's the HMNZS Aotearoa
https://navaltoday.com/2019/04/11/new-zealand-navys-biggest-vessel-ready-for-launch-in-south-korea/?fbclid=IwAR0NwWSV6dTx_XzDPKHy12bX1iQfV45LP5GDlJo79rfIrkPkeUdl5SmCDjs
https://www.facebook.com/ROKArmedForces/posts/2130117393753303
Title: BRP Jose Rizal launched
Related discussion on the forum's FB extension here:
Republic of Korea Armed Forces
Congratulations to our Filipino fans in welcoming their Navy's first modern surface combatant! She's a beauty.
A keel-laying ceremony for her sister ship also took place today.
Credit: https://twitter.com/chinogaston
오늘 현대중공업에서 진수된 필리핀 해군 호위함 1번함입니다.
~CBG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1kinpm6ZeQ
Title: Re: BRP Jose Rizal launched
BRP Jose Rizal, pinakabagong barkong pandigma ng Pilipinas
Buo na ang isa sa dalawang barkong pandigma na binili ng ating bansa sa South Korea. Iyan ang BRP Jose Rizal na pinakabago at pinakamalakas na warship ng Pilipinas.
Post by: Buster1123 on May 23, 2019, 11:55:03 AM
The ship looks really slick...though I wish they have allocated more VLS cells than just 8 cells.
Time to start procuring the FFBNW items.
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on May 23, 2019, 01:53:39 PM
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1122461/philippines-most-modern-warship-launched-in-south-korea
The first ever missile-capable warship to be built for the Philippine Navy was transferred to the water for the first time, seven months after her keel was laid.
The future BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150) was launched on Thursday during a ceremony at the Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) shipyard here.
The 107-meter-long vessel represents the first brand new Philippine Navy ship capable of anti-warfare, anti-surface warfare, anti-submarine warfare and electronic warfare operations.
Post by: grail on May 23, 2019, 02:03:59 PM
According to this info sheet during the launch, the FFBNW items are:
1. Towed array sonar
2. CIWS
3. 8 cell VLS
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photo from PTV FB page
Post by: pyuron on May 23, 2019, 02:10:48 PM
Happy to see that the main forward gun has been already installed, digging that more modern and "stealthy" turret housing.
https://twitter.com/chinogaston/status/1131370393036443648?s=21
Post by: Ayoshi on May 23, 2019, 04:06:54 PM
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/05/23/1920263/philippines-first-warship-launched-south-korea
Philippines' first warship launched in South Korea
May 23, 2019 - 11:57am
Measuring 351-feet long and 46-feet wide, the ship has a maximum speed of 25 knots and can travel up to 4,500 nautical miles at a cruising speed of 15 knots.
The keel laying ceremony for BRP Antonio Luna also commenced on Thursday, marking the start of its construction. It will be the Navy's second missile-capable frigate.
The BRP Jose Rizal is scheduled to be delivered to the Philippines by September 2020 while its sister ship BRP Antonio Luna is slated for delivery in March 2021.
https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1070529
PH Navy gets early Christmas gift with launch of BRP Jose Rizal
He said the brand-new ship, once commissioned, will be the PN's most modern and powerful ship in service.
The PN spokesperson said the BRP Jose Rizal will play a critical role in beefing up the country's anti-submarine, anti-surface and anti-air, and electronic warfare capabilities aside from providing training to new seagoing officers.
These frigates are also expected to escort the two Tarlac-class landing dock platforms, the BRP Tarlac (LD-601) and BRP Davao del Sur (LD-602), while on missions.
"These frigates are built based on the Incheon/FFX-I/HDF-3000-type multi-purpose frigate of the Republic of Korea Navy (RoKN), which offers increased operational performance and enhanced survivability," Zata said.
These are also fully equipped with surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles, torpedoes, launchers and weapon systems for four-dimensional warfare.
Each ship will be armed with an Oto Melara 76mm Super Rapid cannon and Aselsan SMASH 3Omm remote-controlled established naval gun.
The ship measures 351 feet long and 46 feet wide and has a maximum speed of 25 knots and can travel up to 4,500 nautical miles at a cruising speed of 15 knots and can sustain operational presence for 30 days.
It is also capable of withstanding rough sea conditions up to Sea State 7, which means waves of up to six to nine meters high.
"Each frigate has a complement of more than a 100 officers and crew. It has a flight deck towards the stern with the ability to handle one maritime helicopter weighing up to 12 tons. Two rigid-hulled inflatable boats will be carried to conduct military and emergency operations at sea," Zata added. (PNA)
BRP Jose Rizal, BRP Antonio Luna first real combat ships for PH
Launching is considered the four highlights of a vessel's life with the other three being keel-laying, commissioning, and decommissioning while steel-cutting is considered the formal start of a ship's construction.
The two ships will be armed with a variety of sensors and weapons capable of detecting and neutralizing surface, sub-surface and air threats.
Once the two ships are commissioned into PN service by 2020 and 2021, Zata said these will help secure the country's maritime chokepoints or primary sea routes used for trade, logistics, and naval operations from the above-mentioned threats.
The Philippines and HHI signed a PHP16 billion contract for two missile-armed frigates, with another PHP2 billion set aside for its weapon systems and munition.
Also, Zata said the two ships will become more capable once the two AgustaWestland AW-159 anti-submarine helicopters are integrated into operations.
This is because the AW-159s will extend the range of the ships in detecting and neutralizing surface and sub-surface threats, he added.
This is possible because of the helicopters heavy missile and torpedo weaponry and its various surveillance detections including sonar for submarine location and hunting.
The two AW-159s are expected to be commissioned into PN service by May 27, which coincides with the Navy's 121st anniversary.
See also: PN Anti-Submarine Helicopter Acquisition Project (http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=281.0)
24 Oras BRP Jose Rizal, pinakabago at pinakamalakas na barkong pandigma ng Pilipinas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLankwDFONo
BT: BRP Jose Rizal, pormal nang inilunsad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_NPqtaZlVw
Quote from: Ayoshi on May 23, 2019, 05:32:14 PM
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Isa sa pinakamodernong warship ng PH pinasinayaan | TV Patrol
ABS-CBN News
https://youtu.be/7OA7Ji6Ys1I
Post by: Manokski on May 25, 2019, 01:05:39 AM
The racks for the SSMs are also installed. SSMs will be Korean too so that would be a government to government transaction?
Since the Shorad SAMS are also installed, it could arguably be said that the CIWS can be put off. Another 30mm would be more useful.
Not a bad start considering all the drama.
We need more than two.
We also need ships that can critically damage or sink capital ships. Otherwise, it's just a heavily armed coast guard.
Quote from: Manokski on May 25, 2019, 01:05:39 AM
Next puzzle is how do we make sure we keep the ships, and their systems operational. Our track record in that regard hasn't been great.
Interestingly, the bid specifications actually had provisions for tech transfer should we decide to put more skin in the game
Administrator's note: Companion thread on the forum's FB extension available here (https://www.facebook.com/adrothph/posts/923630761151511)
One aspect of the Frigate Acquisition Project that appears to have been ignored in various discussions are the Self-Reliant Defense Posture provisions in the requirements. Details are available in the Supplemental Bid Bulletin #PN-FAP-06-01
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The clearest statement of intent is on Section 22 page 66 which contains the following stipulation
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This short provision, placed in the latter portion of the document, can be used interpret and/or highlight other sections of the document whose wording isn't overtly pro SRDP
The following are examples of sections that are clearly in support of domestic support.
Section 20, Page 53
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SRDP related options are as obvious in Section 22, page 63. Note how construction plans are required as part of the requirements. Access to the schematics, combined with a requirement to either transfer the design, or allow us to produce the vessel under license . . .
. . . means that the next Frigates could very well be locally built.
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The transom
Close up of the RCWS
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Post by: LionFlyer on May 27, 2019, 07:41:19 AM
She is far more complete at launch than I expected. At this level of completion, I am surprised that they want a Sept 2020 delivery date. I would imagine a further 6 months of outfitting, followed by 6 months of HAT, SAT and she will be ready. Perhaps the additional time is for training?
Quote from: LionFlyer on May 27, 2019, 07:41:19 AM
One would hope that they will maximize the opportunity for training. The PN is essentially going from a motorbike to a Tesla. Lord knows they need the help.
It'll also be interesting to see if JUSMAG will use Hanwha as the contractor for Link16 integration and do the work while the ship is still in Busan.
How much does PN know and practice for project management would be greatly stress as well. There is a wonderful resource from NAVSEA called SUPSHIP Operations Manual or SOM. If they can just follow a fraction of these, there would be more promising outcomes.
https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/SUPSHIP/SUPSHIP-Operations-Manual/
Post by: mamen on May 30, 2019, 05:55:07 AM
I'm just curious if the new frigate will already have the mistral & c star missiles included?. Or it included on the separate bidding together with the shell of the 76MM?.
Quote from: mamen on May 30, 2019, 05:55:07 AM
The Mistral passed the bid and awards committee.
Post by: mamen on May 30, 2019, 10:44:44 PM
Thanks Adroth, I appreciate posting the bid docs.
Good to know it has passed the bidding committee. Hopefully the other bids for the ammo of 75 & 30mm would be awarded before the acceptance or delivery on Sep 2020, it shouldn't be that difficult anyways since we are already using it on the other assets.
Another concern is the VLS, how long it will take us to get it. Figure cross, hopefully sooner that later.
The VLS would basically be a defensive system. The SSM should be the priority.
Giving the ship an offensive capability would give the Philippine Navy muscle it does not currently have.
The PN needs weapons that can threaten capital ships.
The Korean VLS systems are supposed to also be able to launch SSM-700K SSMs. Am not counting Hyunmoo cruise missiles as we would probably not be allowed to purchase those anyway because of international missile control regulations.
Title: Re: BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150) - [DND/PHL Navy's Frigate Acquisition Program]
The official said the BRP Jose Rizal is now undergoing sea trials following its recent launching. The vessel has missiles and powerful radars and is armed with high-rate firing Oto-Melara guns.
"It (the gun) is capable of intercepting air targets to include missile using special munitions," Navy spokesman Capt. Jonathan Zata said.
Read more at https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/05/29/1921766/frigates-south-korea-buy-one-take-one?fbclid=IwAR0wT4wNQmtB5MOBs66H3-iaKh4ywFvgiUCni6zI5JS_iDHlvCwO6gZkUds#sauBcQ1lhqC4a8zg.99
Post by: adroth on June 03, 2019, 12:30:07 AM
Two more frigates with each Horizon
Infographic c/o the Philippine Navy website
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Post by: grail on June 03, 2019, 11:44:21 AM
how true is it that they increased budget request for each ship to Php14B? Does this mean that sensors and weapons will be markedly different from the JRC? Will this constitute a new class or just a "batch 2"
Post by: LionFlyer on June 05, 2019, 10:30:19 AM
The racks for the SSM-700K are already installed and all that is lacking is the actual award for the SSMs themselves.
In the case of the VLS, I don't think PN has made any definitive choices, much less budget. I'll rather PN goes for a longer range system (e.g Barak 8 ). A SAM system in itself can become an offensive system by denying airspace to adversaries. The short range, point defense requirements are already met by the Mistral and the FFBNW gun CIWS. Another system with the same performance/range wouldn't make sense.
Post by: adroth on June 05, 2019, 10:33:41 PM
Would've been nice if the PN shared the whole recording. This screen capture shows the ship before the drydock was flooded
https://www.facebook.com/ANCalerts/videos/344475376265846/
Notable points:
Time index 3:01: South Korean Blue Shark torpedoes for both the Jose Rizal class and the Wildcats
Time index 4:00: Wildcats will be inaugurated at June 17
Korean shipbuilder eyes April 2020 delivery of BRP Jose Rizal – Navy chief
By: Frances Mangosing - Reporter / @FMangosingINQ INQUIRER.net / 10:19 AM June 06, 2019
MANILA, Philippines — The Philippine Navy's first missile-capable frigate, the future BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), could be delivered by April 2020.
In an interview aired on ABS CBN News Channel on Wednesday night, Flag Officer in Command Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad said the Korean shipbuilder of the Philippine Navy frigates, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), has intentions to deliver it months ahead of the previously announced target date September 2020.
The second frigate, BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151), is expected to be delivered by March 2021.
Empedrad said the BRP Jose Rizal will sail to Subic Bay on reaching the Philippines from South Korea. Navy personnel would be part of the crew but they would not be the ones to sail it to the Philippines.
"We will send our personnel there to train but based on the contract, the delivery of the ship is in Subic Bay. Ang mag-sail ng barko ay hindi Navy. We will have our crew as part of the sailing crew but they will not sail the ship back to the Philippines," he said.
Read more: https://globalnation.inquirer.net/175998/korean-shipbuilder-eyes-april-2020-delivery-of-brp-jose-rizal-navy-chief#ixzz5q8fpunwV
Post by: adroth on July 02, 2019, 10:39:46 AM
Jose Rizal launch discussion merged with main discussion.
Post by: El_Filibusterismo1978 on August 09, 2019, 09:39:55 AM
just want to cite an article about the importance of ESM..
https://twitter.com/D__Mitch/status/1159034150537613312/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AD__Mitch&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.navalanalyses.com%2F
Post by: adroth on August 24, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
https://www.facebook.com/ROKArmedForces/photos/a.805807109517678/2301780219920352/?type=3&theater
Post by: LionFlyer on August 29, 2019, 10:40:21 PM
https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1078985?fbclid=IwAR0-akHju7nr6mlaJr-loezXoHwD36fxBTKyVCtepY4APDXGjlcqxY-FFcw
MANILA -- The Philippine Navy's (PN) second missile frigate, the BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151), will be formally launched in September.
"Our second frigate will be launched in September. By that time, the first frigate (BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150) will be finished (fitting its equipment)," said Navy flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad during an interview with reporters at the PN headquarters at Naval Station Jose Andrada, Roxas Boulevard, Manila Wednesday.
The launching ceremonies will take place at the Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) shipyard in Ulsan, South Korea.
The BRP Jose Rizal, the country's first missile frigate, was launched at the same facility last May 23.
The first missile frigate is expected to be delivered to the PN by April 2020 while the BRP Antonio Luna is scheduled for September of the same year.
The steel-cutting for BRP Jose Rizal took place in April 1, 2018 while the same ceremony for BRP Antonio Luna transpired on November the same year. This event officially signified the start of the actual construction of the frigates.
Meanwhile, the keel-laying ceremony for BRP Jose Rizal took place in October 2018 as the formal recognition of the start of the ship's construction.
Keel-laying refers to the official start of the construction of any ship and is considered among the four highlights of any surface vessel with the other three being steel-cutting, commissioning, and decommissioning.
Both ships are armed with an Oto Melara 76mm Super Rapid main gun, an Aselsan SMASH 30mm remote-controlled secondary cannon, anti-submarine torpedoes, and anti-air and ship missiles.
The Jose Rizal-class frigates of the PN are also equipped with a Hanwha Systems' Naval Shield combat management system (CMS), which integrates all shipboard sensors and weapons and decides on which is ideal to deal with any incoming threats.
This system can also detect and track air, surface and sub-surface targets and is used in various configurations by the Republic of Korea Navy, Royal Malaysian Navy and the Indonesian Navy.
"It is a strategic move as (these) ship(s) will be the most powerful in the PN due to its multiple capabilities," Empedrad earlier said. (PNA)
Ahead of the schedule. Not a surprise given the advanced state of completion during launch. The launch of the second unit is also faster than the Jose Rizal. This is probably because the blocks were already completed and awaiting the launch of the first unit to start assembly.
Post by: spoon on November 05, 2019, 12:35:15 AM
South Korean Military Channel took a glimpse of BRP JOSE RIZAL (towed?).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHjx-zqvSik&feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHjx-zqvSik&feature=share)
Post by: Sinagtala on November 21, 2019, 10:16:23 PM
BRP Jose Rizal (FF150) undergoes historic sea trials
Headquarters Philippine Navy, Roxas Blvd., Manila – The first of the two units of multi-mission capable frigate of the Philippine Navy (PN), FF150, undergoes various sea trials from 23-27 Nov conducted by the technical crew of Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI).
The 351 by 46-feet frigate will sail towards the open waters off Ulsan, Busan and Mokpo in South Korea to measure its performance and general sea worthiness. Representatives from Lloyd Registry shall witness the activity to ensure that the ship's construction has met the required standards.
This will be the last phase of construction prior the frigate's delivery to the Philippines scheduled tentatively in April or May 2020. This will take place six months after the vessel was launched (to the water) for the first time at HHI Shipyard last May.
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https://navy.mil.ph/pn_web_news.php?news_id=2029#gallery_navigation
Missile frigate BRP Jose Rizal to conduct sea trials
By Priam Nepomuceno November 22, 2019, 10:13 am
MANILA -- The BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), the Philippine Navy (PN)'s first-ever guided-missile frigate, will be undergoing various sea trials from November 23 to 27.
Navy public affairs office chief, Lt. Commander Maria Christina Roxas, in a statement Thursday night, said the sea trials will be conducted by the technical crew of South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI).
The 107.5-meter long frigate will sail towards the open waters off Ulsan, Busan, and Mokpo in South Korea to measure its performance and general seaworthiness.
Representatives from international provider of classification, compliance and consultancy services to the marine industry, Lloyd's Register of Shipping will witness the activity to ensure that the ship's construction has met the required standards.
Roxas said the sea trials are the last phase of construction prior to the frigate's delivery to the Philippines scheduled tentatively in April or May 2020.
This will take place six months after the vessel was launched at the HHI shipyard for the first time at HHI shipyard in Ulsan last May 23.
"The PHP8-billion warship is a big-ticket acquisition of the Armed Forces of the Philippines that is poised to be the benchmark of PN's transformation journey," she said.
Incidentally, BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151), the sistership of BRP Jose Rizal, was launched in the same facility last November 8.
The contract for the two ships is placed at PHP16 billion with another PHP2 billion for weapon systems and munitions.
These ships are capable of conducting Anti-Air Warfare (AAW), Anti-Surface Warfare (ASUW), Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) and Electronic Warfare (EW) Operations. It is fully equipped with Surface-to-Air and Surface-to-Surface Missiles, torpedoes, launchers, and weapon systems.
The activity signifies that the PN is inching closer to its dream of acquiring highly capable warships.
Its crew and maintenance personnel are currently undergoing training in the Republic of Korea.
Roxas said the BRP Jose Rizal provides leverage for the Navy's bid of becoming a stronger and more credible force that the Philippines as a maritime nation can be proud of. (PNA)
PH Navy: BRP Jose Rizal first sea trials successful
MANILA -- The first sea trials of BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), the country's first-ever guided-missile frigate, proved successful.
"The first sea trials (which took place last November 23 to 27) was successful even in Sea State 4 conditions," Philippine Navy (PN) public affairs office chief Lt. Commander Maria Christina Roxas said in a message to the Philippine News Agency Tuesday.
Sea State 4 refers to conditions at sea where waves are reaching four to eight feet in height. BRP Jose Rizal can withstand up to Sea State 7 or conditions with very high waves.
"Another set of sea trials is tentatively scheduled for December 16," Roxas added.
BRP Jose Rizal's first sea trials took place off the open waters of Ulsan, Busan, and Mokpo in South Korea and done to measure its performance and general seaworthiness.
Present were the technical crew of South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) along with representatives from the international provider of classification, compliance and consultancy services to the marine industry, Lloyd's Register of Shipping.
Roxas said the sea trials are the last phase of construction before the frigate's delivery to the Philippines scheduled tentatively in April or May 2020.
This took place six months after the vessel was launched at the HHI shipyard for the first time in Ulsan last May 23.
"The PHP8-billion warship is a big-ticket acquisition of the Armed Forces of the Philippines that is poised to be the benchmark of PN's transformation journey," she added.
Incidentally, BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151), the sister ship of BRP Jose Rizal, was launched in the same facility last November 8. The contract for the two ships was pegged at PHP16 billion with another PHP2 billion for weapon systems and munitions.
These ships are capable of conducting Anti-Air Warfare, Anti-Surface Warfare, Anti-Submarine Warfare, and Electronic Warfare Operations and it is fully equipped with surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles, torpedoes, launchers, and weapon systems. (PNA)
2nd sea trial of BRP Jose Rizal satisfactory: PH Navy
By Priam Nepomuceno, December 31, 2019, 10:32 am
MANILA -- BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), the country's first missile frigate, performed well during its second sea trials, which took place last December 15 to 18.
"The second sea trials (were conducted) with satisfactory results," said Philippine Navy (PN) public affairs office chief, Lt. Commander Maria Christina Roxas, in a message to the Philippine News Agency (PNA) on Tuesday.
During the testing period, Roxas said systems like the ship's propulsion console, freshwater generator, and steering gear were tested. Also, the frigate's propulsion system was tested and checked for vibration.
Likewise, the ship's turning circle when at the maximum design speed of 25 knots and rudders being shifted to "hard left and hard right progressive speed" was determined, the PN official added.
Roxas said the BRP Jose Rizal was made to undergo zigzag and spiral maneuvers along with crash stop ahead (full astern to full ahead) and crash stop astern (full ahead to full astern) along with another vibration measurement test.
The ship's S and X band radars, which are for surveillance and targeting applications, were also tested along with the frigate's fuel consumption at 85 percent of "maximum continuous rating" or maximum speed.
BRP Jose Rizal has a maximum designed speed of 25 knots and a cruising speed of 15 knots and a range of 4,500 nautical miles. The first sea trials, which were conducted in the waters of Ulsan, Busan, and Mokpo last November 23 to 27, had the frigate performing well even at Sea State Condition 4 where waves are known to reach between four to eight feet.
It was conducted to check the ship's performance and general seaworthiness. "(Present during the 2nd sea trials) are PN representatives, (ship-builder) Hyundai Heavy Industries QM (quality management) technicians, OEM (original equipment manufacturer) engineers and Lloyd's Register of Shipping inspector," Roxas earlier said.
For the third and fourth sea trials, which are still to be scheduled, this will be more on testing the ship's various weapons systems, she added.
The sea trials are the last phase of construction before the frigate's delivery to the Philippines scheduled tentatively in April or May 2020. This took place six months after the vessel was launched at the HHI shipyard for the first time in Ulsan last May 23.
"The PHP8 billion warship is a big-ticket acquisition of the Armed Forces of the Philippines that is poised to be the benchmark of PN's transformation journey," Roxas earlier said.
These ships are capable of conducting Anti-Air Warfare (AAW), Anti-Surface Warfare (ASUW), Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) and Electronic Warfare (EW) Operations and it is fully equipped with Surface-to-Air and Surface-to-Surface Missiles, torpedoes, launchers, and weapon systems.
Its crew and maintenance personnel are currently undergoing training in South Korea.
Philippine Navy personnel to be sent to Korea to undergo training for manning frigates
Published January 16, 2020 9:16am
By ANNA FELICIA BAJO, GMA News
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/722386/philippine-navy-personnel-to-be-sent-to-korea-to-undergo-training-for-manning-frigates/story/
The Philippine Navy is set to send some of its personnel to South Korea to undergo training so that they can man and operate the frigates that the navy has acquired, according to Flag Officer in Command Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad.
In his exit interview on Wednesday night, Empedrad was asked about the status of the two-unit frigate acquisition project of the Navy. According to him, the BRP Jose Rizal has already finished its sea trials.
"Actually tapos na 'yung sea trial ng ship at sea. Na-test na nila lahat and then okay na. There is some fine-tuning in the systems, 'yung weapon systems," Empedrad said.
"Ang next na gagawin ng Navy is ipadala 'yung crew to Korea this first quarter because based on our agreement with the chief of the Navy of the Republic of Korea, iti-train 'yung crew natin, the whole crew to one of their class frigates."
Empedrad said the frigates will be delivered to Subic Bay. "Pagpunta ng frigate to Subic from Korea, hindi pa tayo ang magma-man niyan. It will be manned by selected crew of the Hyundai Heavy Industries... Pagdating sa Subic, saka lang puwedeng i-man ng ating Navy personnel."
The Philippine Navy is expecting that the BRP Antonio Luna will be delivered by September or October 2020 while BRP Jose Rizal may arrive in April or May of this year. —KBK, GMA News
Missile-capable frigate BRP Jose Rizal inches closer to entering PH Navy's fleet
By: Frances Mangosing - Reporter / @FMangosingINQINQUIRER.net / 03:57 PM January 19, 2020
MANILA, Philippines — The Philippine Navy's first missile-capable frigate, the future BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), is moving closer to join the naval fleet.
Outgoing Navy chief Vice Adm. Robert Empedrad, who will retire in early February, said that they are in the "final stage" on evaluating if the upcoming warship has met the requirements in the contract.
"Actually tapos na 'yung sea trial ng ship at sea. Na-test na nila lahat and then okay na. There is some fine-tuning in the weapons systems," he said.
Read more: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1215063/missile-capable-frigate-brp-jose-rizal-inches-closer-to-entering-ph-navys-fleet#ixzz6BY3OtKBb
Test-firing of BRP Jose Rizal's main gun successful
By Priam Nepomuceno February 14, 2020, 11:25
MANILA -- Test-firing of the 76-mm main gun of the country's first purposedly designed missile frigate, BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), was successfully concluded off South Korean waters on Wednesday.
Philippine Navy (PN) public affairs office chief, Lt. Commander Maria Christina Roxas, said the test-firing of BRP Jose Rizal's Oto Melara Super Rapid main gun successfully went off during sea trials as per reports from PN representatives who witnessed the test.
"The recent one was yesterday (Wednesday) and that is our fifth sea trial. We conducted a structural test firing of our main gun (76mm Oto Melara Super Rapid SR main gun) with 12 rounds of ammunition. This is to check the effect of the main gun in the structure of the ship," Roxas said in a message late Thursday.
Roxas said the sixth sea trials involving the ship's combat systems (weapons and sensors), integrated platform management system and endurance test of the frigate will commence on February 17.
The third and fourth sea trials took place in the third week of January that involves testing the communications and navigational equipment of the BRP Jose Rizal and also went successfully.
The ship's first and second sea trials took place in November and December last year, respectively, which involves the vessel's general seaworthiness and propulsion and associated systems, including its radars.
BRP Jose Rizal has a maximum designed speed of 25 knots and a cruising speed of 15 knots and a range of 4,500 nautical miles.
The sea trials are the last phase of construction prior to the frigate's delivery to the Philippines scheduled tentatively in April or May this year.
BRP Jose Rizal was launched at the Hyundai Heavy Industries shipyard in Ulsan May 23, 2019. The contract for the BRP Jose Rizal and its sister ship, the BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151), is placed at PHP16 billion with another PHP2 billion for weapon systems and munitions.
These ships are capable of conducting anti-air warfare (AAW), anti-surface warfare (ASUW), anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and electronic warfare (EW) operations. (PNA)
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BRP Jose Rizal to lead PH contingent in Int'l Fleet Review
MANILA — The country's first missile frigate, the BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), will lead the Philippine Navy (PN) contingent to the International Fleet Review (IFR) off the waters of Manila Bay in May.
"We are expecting our first frigate, the Jose Rizal class frigate. Initially, we are expecting that ship to be here by about the third or fourth (week) of April. So if the IFR is May 21, we expect the Jose Rizal-class frigate to lead the convoy and the reviewing ships will be our Tarlac-class landing-dock," PN flag-officer-in-command Rear Admiral Giovanni Carlo Bacordo said in an interview with the Philippine News Agency Wednesday afternoon.
Bacordo said the IFR will be held off Manila Bay near Corregidor and Bataan. Since the Western Pacific Naval Symposium (WPNS) will coincide with the PN founding anniversary on May 20, he said that participating Navy heads will be invited to their Navy Ball.
BRP Jose Rizal is presently conducting its last and sixth sea trials off South Korean waters which is expected to be concluded sometime this week. Once these tests are concluded, the ship will start preparations to go home.
The IFR is one of the highlights of the WPNS which the Philippines is hosting for the first time from May 19 to 21.
The WPNS aims to increase cooperation and the ability to operate together, as well as to build trust and confidence between navies by providing a framework to enable the discussion of maritime issues of mutual interest, the exchange of information, the practice and demonstration of capabilities, and the exchange of personnel.
Aside from the Philippines, other WPNS member nations include Australia, Bangladesh, Brunei, Cambodia, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Fiji, France, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Myanmar, New Zealand, Pakistan, Peru, Singapore, South Korea, Thailand, the United States, and Vietnam.
Meanwhile, Bacordo said they are hoping that President Rodrigo R. Duterte, as the commander-in-chief, would grace the event as of guest of honor.
Meanwhile, PN public affairs office chief, Lt. Commander Maria Christina Roxas said 13 nations have so far confirmed attendance to the WPNS while another 15 countries committed to send ships to the IFR as of Wednesday.
Bacordo earlier said he estimates at least 24 navies and their representatives to attend both events. (PNA)
BRP Jose Rizal's 6th sea trial 'generally satisfactory'
By Priam Nepomuceno February 25, 2020, 12:11 pmShare
MANILA – The sixth sea acceptance trial of the Philippine Navy (PN)'s first-ever missile frigate, BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), was generally satisfactory.
"The 6th Sea Acceptance Trial (SAT) of BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150) conducted in Ulsan, South Korea on 16-22 February 2020 was generally satisfactory according to the Frigate Acquisition Project, Technical Inspection and Acceptance Committee headed by Rear Admiral Alberto B. Carlos," said PN public affairs office chief Lt. Commander Maria Christina Roxas, in a message late Monday.
Roxas said the sixth sea trials focused on weapons and sensors, vessel performance, and integrated platform management system.
"To be more specific, it demonstrated the warfare and operational capabilities of the frigate," she added.
Roxas declined to give further details on the matter, adding that the data given above is "only releasable information" for the moment.
She added that the delivery date of the BRP Jose Rizal remains unchanged at "tentatively 3rd week of April 2020".
The ship's fifth sea trials, which involved the firing of its Oto Melara Super Rapid 76mm main gun, took place successfully last February 12.
The third and fourth sea trials took place in the third week of January and involved testing the communications and navigational equipment of the BRP Jose Rizal which also went successful.
The ship's first and second sea trials took place last November and December involved the vessel's general seaworthiness and propulsion and associated systems, including its radars, respectively.
The sea trials are the last phase of construction prior to the frigate's delivery to the Philippines.
BRP Jose Rizal was launched at the Hyundai Heavy Industries shipyard in Ulsan May 23, 2019.
The contract for the BRP Jose Rizal and its sister ship, the BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151), is placed at PHP16 billion with another PHP2 billion for weapon systems and munitions.
Post by: hotandwild on February 28, 2020, 06:25:13 AM
I am just wondering if these systems such as "CIWS", "Towed Sonar Array" and "Air and Surface Search Radar" are implemented.
Post by: baybum7 on March 02, 2020, 07:31:44 PM
Quote from: hotandwild on February 28, 2020, 06:25:13 AM
CIWS and TASS - no. FFBNW.
Surface radar used is the Hensoldt TRS-3D Baseline D.
Post by: hotandwild on March 08, 2020, 07:47:31 PM
Quote from: baybum7 on March 02, 2020, 07:31:44 PM
I remember the issue regarding Data Link 16, is this data link format also implemented?. If CIWS and TASS are "Fitted For But Not With", I am hoping that Data Link 16 is included in the delivery.
Quote from: hotandwild on March 08, 2020, 07:47:31 PM
Link16 is a FFBNW item because it is actually JUSMAG that has to install it, in cooperation with. JUSMAG-selected contractor and the PN. What isn't discussed is that the same process would have been followed had Thales won the CMS bid.
Given that FA-50s in the PAF already have Link16 support, that shouldn't be an issue.
Frigate Acquisition Project: Tactical Data Link (https://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=3286.0)
Certification of missile-capable PH Navy frigate's 'brains' awaited
INQUIRER.net / 02:47 PM March 10, 2020
MANILA, Philippines — The Philippine Navy's first missile-capable frigate, BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), is a few steps away from delivery next month. Rear Admiral Giovanni Carlo Bacordo, Navy chief, told reporters on Tuesday (March 10) that so far the warship has "all systems okay."...
... Hanwha Systems had said in 2018 that TDL 16 compatibility with the CMS for the frigates would be in place by 2019. But in May that year, Hanwha said compatibility won't happen until 2020 because of issues between the Korean armed forces and US requirements. It remains to be seen whether the CMS certification, which would come from the United States, would be obtained. ...
Read More: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1239295/certification-of-missile-capable-ph-navy-frigates-brains-awaited (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1239295/certification-of-missile-capable-ph-navy-frigates-brains-awaited)
Navy chief: COVID-19 outbreak may delay frigate delivery
By: Frances Mangosing - Reporter / @FMangosingINQINQUIRER.net / 03:51 PM April 05, 2020
MANILA, Philippines — Navy chief Vice Adm. Giovanni Carlo Bacordo said Sunday he sees a possible delay in the delivery of the BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150) missile-capable frigate from South Korea due to coronavirus threat.
"This is not official yet, but we expect that there will be some delays in the delivery of BRP Jose Rizal," he told reporters.
One of the reasons why he expects a potential delay was due to travel restrictions caused by the pandemic.
"How can the Technical Inspection and Acceptance Committee (TIAC) go to South Korea when all the incoming visitors are required to undergo a 14-day quarantine before they can conduct business?" he said.
Read more: https://globalnation.inquirer.net/186612/navy-chief-covid-19-outbreak-may-delay-frigate-delivery#ixzz6IrbnMHk7
Post by: baybum7 on April 09, 2020, 10:02:16 PM
But wasn't the question more about the compatibility of the CMS to Link16 as the NS Baseline 2 is a new system that has not been certified yet to use this system? While the Tacticos is already known to be compatible with it
Quote from: baybum7 on April 09, 2020, 10:02:16 PM
That was the allegation. Along with all manner of claims.
How much of that is a legitimate issue -- given how such integrations actually work -- remains questionable.
Post by: LionFlyer on April 12, 2020, 10:14:31 AM
The exact specifications by PN is "fitted with a space and ready for installation of Link 16 and 22."
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As for the specifications of the CMS, the definition of data links are used loosely. http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=2366.0
So strictly speaking, that obligation can be fulfilled by literally have a physical space for the system since this is FFBNW. FFBNW can be as simple as plug and play or plug and play with some NRE involved (Non-Recurring Engineering) for the integration.
If the expectation is for pure plug and play like what is being suggested, the words that are missing is "compatible with". It is unfortunate but one cannot go on the basis of "expectations" and "common sense" when there is a written specifications in a contract.
Aotearoa conducting Replenishment At Sea (RAS) Station Keeping Trials off the South Korean coast recently. Accompanied by a Philippine Navy Light Patrol Frigate, the trials assessed the ability for a ship to approach and remain alongside Aotearoa as a confirmation of the ship's pressure and suction zones during refuelling or replenishment. She passed with flying colours
Post by: Ayoshi on April 18, 2020, 02:26:59 AM
https://www.janes.com/article/95549/new-zealand-s-oiler-conducts-replenishment-trials-with-philippine-frigate
New Zealand's oiler conducts replenishment trials with Philippine frigate
* A tanker on order for the New Zealand Navy has completed a series of replenishment trials with a frigate on order for the Philippine Navy
* The trials have validated these vessels' ability to undertake replenishment-at-sea operations, ahead of deliveries to the respective operators
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The Royal New Zealand Navy's new oiler, Aotearoa, conducting replenishment trials with the Philippine Navy's new frigate, José Rizal, off the coast of South Korea. Source: Screenshot from a Royal New Zealand Navy video
https://www.theguru.co.kr/news/article.html?no=9415
Via Google Translate. Errors to be expected.
According to related industries and Philippine media Inquire on the 17th, Navy General Giovanni Carlo Barcordo said on the 10th (local time), "The introduction of the frigate is ongoing without delay." .
The certification process that the Philippine Navy is waiting for is whether the CMS of Hanwha Systems mounted on the Philippine Export Escort is compatible with the US Tactical Data Link (LINK16).
In the beginning, even though Hanwha Systems proposed to the Philippines to test with ADSI, a Link-16 simulator, to verify compatibility, the Philippines side requested verification of ADSI reliability.
Hanwha Systems proved its authenticity by providing an official letter from the United States' original ADSI manufacturer to the Philippines, but the Philippine authorities said that the letter of the company was not sufficient and that they had to go through the certification process by asking for US government documents.
From the standpoint of Hanwha Systems, the Philippine authorities are embarrassed by the establishment of a flagship with ADSI certification while the delivery schedule is being completed without any delays, such as the successful completion of a frigate trap equipped with its CMS.
MANILA, Philippines—The Philippine Navy's first missile-capable frigate, BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), will start its journey to the Philippines next week.
The ship will set sail from South Korea on May 18 and arrive in Subic Bay on May 23, where it will first undergo technical inspection and acceptance, said Navy chief Vice Admiral Giovanni Carlo Bacordo in an interview with radio station dzRH on Friday (May 15).
BRP Jose Rizal was supposed to be delivered in late April but it was delayed due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Its sister ship, BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151), is set for delivery before yearend.
The Philippine government signed a deal with Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) for the construction of two frigates for P16 billion in 2016.
Bacordo said the frigates are built with anti-air warfare, anti-surface warfare, anti-submarine warfare and anti-electronic warfare capabilities.
"This is our first brand new fighting ship," he said. "This is the first time that we will have this kind of vessel in the Philippine Navy."
Controversy marred the selection of the combat management systems (CMS) for the two frigates in 2017. It remains to be seen whether or not the CMS is compatible with Link 16, one of the requirements set in the contract
The Link 16 is a military network used by North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and allied forces to exchange data in real time.
A defense official privy to the ship delivery said the BRP Jose Rizal will be brought home by 60 Philippine Navy and 40 Korean crewmen.
Read more: https://globalnation.inquirer.net/187709/ph-navys-first-missile-capable-vessel-arriving-may-23#ixzz6MZPVBHhx
From the HHI Website
https://english.hhi.co.kr/biz/special_over
https://janescom.sitefinity.cloud/defence-news/news-detail/2020/05/18/be6cf6ea-2d6d-4350-a37d-6bed47605667
18 MAY 2020 00:00 GMT+0
Philippine Navy's first Jose-Rizal class frigate leaves South Korea
The Philippine Navy's (PN's) future BRP José Rizal multirole frigate left the facilities of South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) in the southeastern coastal city of Ulsan on 18 May en route for the Philippines, according to a statement by the Republic of Korea Navy (RoKN).
The 107.5 m long frigate, which was launched on 23 May 2019 and is the first of two warships of the class built by HHI, is expected to arrive in the Philippine province of Zambales five days later – on the first anniversary of the ship's launch – after which an official acceptance ceremony is set to be held.
In recent months the frigate (with pennant number 150) conducted a series of sea trials, including replenishment trials off the coast of South Korea with the Royal New Zealand Navy's future fleet tanker/replenishment vessel HMNZS Aotearoa, which was also built by HHI.
The second frigate of the class, which will be known as BPR Antonio Luna (pennant number 151) once commissioned, entered the water at HHI's facilities in Ulsan on 8 November. It has been scheduled for delivery to the PN between September and October 2020, but it is unclear whether the handover will be delayed due to the impact of the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic.
The ships are derivatives of the HDF-3000 frigate design, which is a smaller version of the Incheon (FFX-1) frigate class operated by the RoKN.
Both vessels were ordered by Manila under a PHP16 billion (USD315 million) contract awarded to HHI in 2016, with an additional PHP2 billion set aside for weapon systems and munitions, according to the state-owned Philippine News Agency (PNA).
Sailors man the rails aboard the future BRP Jose Rizal as the warship departs Korean waters
WATCH: Sailors man the rails aboard the future BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150) as the warship departs Korean waters (source of the video said it was taken just today). The ship is expected to arrive in Subic Bay on May 23. Video shared to INQUIRER.net | Via Frances Mangosing
Post by: baybum7 on May 20, 2020, 11:01:49 PM
Is there an ETA on when the SSM-700K tubes would be installed?
Higher resolution
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Where things stand on the Link 16 issue: question is whether you want to take these words at face value. it is after all, one sided.
HHI promised in 2017 that Hanwha Systems' Naval Shield ICMS would be compatible with Link 16 by 2019 or before the first frigate was delivered.
In the same letter to Lorenzana, Yeong said HHI had demonstrated compatibility with Link 16 using the Air Defense System Integrator (ADSI) equipment of Ultra Electronics during sea acceptance tests in February 2020.
But HHI could not yet produce the US Joint Interoperability Test Command (JITC) certification required by the TIAC to validate these tests.
Yeong said in his letter that HHI and Hanwha Systems representatives had visited Ultra Electronics in the US and "verified the certificate with their naked eyes."
"However, as it is a classified document that requires the prior approval of US government for provision to third parties, it has been confirmed that it is a force majeure that the certificate cannot be submitted at this time," Yeong wrote.
"Therefore, we have no choice but to submit the confirmation letter by the ROK Minister of National Defense as well as relevant document by DAPA (Defense Acquisition Program Administration) in lieu of the certificate of the ADSI test equipment," he added.
INQUIRER.net learned from a security official familiar with the project that the standard conformity tests by the US JITC for the Naval Shield ICMS and Link 16 may be moved to 2021.
Korean Minister of National Defense Jeong Kyeongdoo also wrote to Lorenzana on April 20, providing guarantee that the ADSI of Ultra Electronics is accredited to conduct Link 16 compatibility tests.
"It has been verified with the US manufacturer of the ADSI, Ultra Electronics Limited, that the ADSI has received the Link 16 compatibility certification of the US JITC," said Jeong.
He said that the ROK Defense Communication Command and the Agency for Defense Development have also adopted the ADSI from the same US manufacturer, Ultra Electronics, and are conducting Link 16 compatibility tests.
"With these facts as basis, I would like to request your active support so that the approval of for the compatibility of the Philippine frigate's combat management system with Link 16 may be given soon and lead to the successful delivery of frigate number 1," Jeong said.
Lorenzana responded to Yeong on April 20, approving the request of HHI to deliver the BRP Jose Rizal to the Philippines.
The defense chief said the letter of guarantee from HHI and confirmation by the ROK Ministry of National Defense were sufficient for the Philippine DND to accept HHI recommendation to conduct final acceptance tests for the frigate in the Philippines.
Lorenzana listed a few conditions, however.
The final acceptance evaluation of the vessel shall be subjected to technical inspection and acceptance standards and procedures provided in the contract;
The HHI shall warrant the vessel and still be accountable until such time that the final acceptance evaluation has been concluded and the vessel has been accepted by TIAC. In addition, HHI will submit certification of the frigate CMS being compatible with Link 16 once this was available.
The Link 16 compatibility, set in the contract requirements for the frigates deal, would have been the first for the Philippine Navy.
If future Navy ships would be eventually installed with Link 16 equipment later on, sailors would have enhanced monitoring of battle space operations, share information in real time and level up interoperability with allies and other local platforms fitted with this capability.
Everything that a ship at sea could detect or all information that it would gather, could also be seen by other local platforms and allies connected to the network. There would be real-time data swapping without getting hacked or being intercepted by the Chinese or other hostile force, explained one Navy official familiar with the frigate project.
Read more: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1279940/philippine-navys-first-brand-new-warship-comes-home#ixzz6NHNI8BS7
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PH Navy's newest missile capable frigate arrives in the Philippines
The Philippine Navy's first missile-capable warship, which will be christened BRP Jose Rizal (FF150) once it is commissioned to service, finally arrived in Subic, Zambales today, May 23 after its five day maiden voyage from Ulsan, South Korea.
Upon reaching the Philippine waters early morning of May 21, FF150 exchanged signals and communications through radio with BRP Quezon (PS70) that is currently deployed in Mavulis Island, Batanes.
On early morning of May 22, the Naval Forces Northern Luzon welcomed FF150 by rendering a meeting procedure with its first patrol boat division composed of three patrol boats at the vicinity of Bolinao, Pangasinan. Later in the afternoon, BRP Andres Bonifacio (PS17) with one Augusta Westland (AW) 109 helicopter and C-90 Fixed Wing Aircraft conducted a meeting procedure with FF150 along the vicinity of Sta. Cruz, Zambales. It was then escorted by PS17 to its designated anchorage area.
Earlier today, frigate Jose Rizal was accorded the traditional passing honors with PS17 and three multipurpose assault crafts (MPACs). The momentous event was captured during the fly-by of two naval helicopters – the anti-submarine helicopter, AW159 and AW109.
The Commander, Offshore Combat Force, Commodore Karl Decapia who presided the arrival of FF150 indicated that this signals the realization of a modern navy that is capable of imposing the Navy's territorial defense mandate. This frigate is capable of fighting the four dimensions of warfare. He then thanked Philippine leadership for standing behind the PN modernization in pursuit of a credible and modern navy.
In a separate statement, the Philippine Fleet commander, Rear Adm. Loumer Bernabe greeted all the officers and men of FF150, PN Frigate Owners representatives and the support team from Republic of Korea, saying, "We are one with the Filipino people in expressing our profound gratitude in bringing pride and honor to the Philippine Navy and the AFP".
"Our countrymen expect nothing less than the selfless and honorable service that we in the Fleet have sworn to uphold and protect. I enjoin everyone to sustain the momentum that you have gained and continue to aspire for competence and excellence", he added.
While at anchor, the sailing crew will undergo two-week quarantine in adherence to the strict health protocols being implemented by the Philippine government to curb the spread of the COVID-19 pandemic.
The Technical Inspection and Acceptance of the frigate shall commence after the quarantine period. A simple arrival and commissioning ceremony is poised to be conducted on June 19 coinciding with the birth anniversary of Dr. Jose Rizal, the ship's namesake.
The arrival of FF150 in the country is yet another major leap toward the fulfillment of the PN's thrust of having modern platforms and systems which provide opportunities for its personnel to develop modern mindsets and propel the whole organization into becoming a multi-capable naval force responsive to our maritime nation's defense and development.
Missile-frigate BRP Jose Rizal heralds PH Navy modernization
By Priam Nepomuceno May 26, 2020, 10:48 am
MANILA – The arrival of the prospective BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150) last May 23, the Philippine Navy's (PN) first missile-capable frigate, signals the start of the PN's modernization.
PN flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Giovanni Carlo Bacordo made this remark when asked by the Philippine News Agency on the ship's arrival.
"This is the start of more modern platforms, weapons, and systems for the PN. The PN can now better perform its mandate of protecting our seas and our territory," he said in a message late Monday.
The BRP Jose Rizal, and its sister ship BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151) which is slated for delivery late this year, is capable of conducting anti-air warfare, anti-surface warfare, anti-submarine warfare, and electronic warfare operations.
Bacordo said the Technical Inspection and Acceptance Committee (TIAC), which is under the Defense Acquisition Office of the Department of National Defense, is scheduled to inspect the various ship's systems this week.
"The TIAC is expected to conduct their inspections this coming week," he added.
Meanwhile, PN public affairs office chief, Lt. Commander Maria Christina Roxas, said all of the weapons systems of the ship, including the missiles and torpedo launchers, are already installed aboard.
She added that the PN is now waiting for the delivery of these munitions which is scheduled sometime in 2021.
BRP Jose Rizal was launched at the HHI shipyard in Ulsan, South Korea on May 23, 2019 while its sister-ship BRP Antonio Luna, was launched on November 8 of the same year.
A simple arrival and commissioning ceremony is poised to be conducted on June 19 coinciding with the birth anniversary of Dr. Jose Rizal, the ship's namesake.
It was supposed to be delivered in the last week of April but was delayed due to travel restrictions in the wake of the coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19) pandemic. (PNA)
Quote from: adroth on June 16, 2020, 04:53:54 PM
PH Navy welcomes newest, first missile-capable frigate
Subic, Zambales - The Philippine Navy officially welcomed at Alava Wharf here today, June 15 its newest and first missile-capable frigate contracted with South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI).
The new ship, which will be christened Barko ng Republika ng Pilipinas (BRP) Jose Rizal (FF150), once it is commissioned to the service, was tendered a traditional arrival ceremony led by the commander of Philippine Fleet, Rear Adm. Loumer P. Bernabe, after its successful two-week quarantine period in adherence to strict health protocols against the COVID-19 pandemic.
Post by: Manokski on June 18, 2020, 12:13:35 AM
Say what you want. It's a beautiful ship.
Now will someone please order the VLS, SSMs and sort the Link16 issue.
Post by: baybum7 on June 28, 2020, 10:00:48 PM
Also the TASS and CIWS and a proper ECM suite
Post by: adroth on July 10, 2020, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: adroth on July 10, 2020, 02:53:13 PM
https://www.facebook.com/philippinenavy/photos/a.10150348212492956/10157668523997956/?type=3&theater
Live Streaming of the Hand-over, Christening & Commissioning Ceremony of BRP Jose Rizal (FF150) with the Commander In Chief, President Rodrigo Duterte and Secretary of National Defense Delfin Lorenzana today, July 10 at 3 o'clock in the afternoon at Alava Wharf, SBMA, Zambales.
PH Navy commissions first ever, purpose-built frigate
SUBIC BAY, Zambales - The brand new, four-dimensional warfare-capable frigate contracted with South Korean shipbuilding company, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), has formally entered service with the Philippine Navy as BRP Jose Rizal (FF150) in a commissioning ceremony held at the Alava Wharf here today, July 10.
Philippine President and AFP Commander In Chief, Rodrigo Duterte, virtually graced the ceremony with a video message as history unfolded for the PN which now has in its inventory a credible warship that is at par with other navies in the world. Others in attendance were the Secretary of National Defense, Delfin Lorenzana, AFP Chief of Staff Gen. Felimon Santos Jr., Navy Chief Vice Adm. Giovanni Carlo Bacordo, major service commanders and other top defense and military officials. Present also were South Korean Ambassador Han Dong-man, HHI representatives, Olongapo City Mayor Rolen Paulino and SBMA Chairperson Atty. Wilma Eisma.
BRP Jose Rizal sails for Hawaii maritime exercise
By Priam Nepomuceno July 29, 2020, 6:21 pm
MANILA – The Philippine Navy (PN) on Wednesday formally deployed its first missile-frigate, BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150), for the two-week "Rim of the Pacific" (RIMPAC) naval exercises which will run from August 17 to 31 in Honolulu, Hawaii.
In a statement, Navy public affairs office chief, Lt. Commander Maria Christina Roxas, said the send-off ceremony for the BRP Jose Rizal and its crew, the Naval Task Group (NTG) 80.5, took place at Alava Wharf in Subic Bay, Zambales.
NTG 80.5 is commanded by Captain Jerry Garrido, Jr., the commanding officer of BRP Jose Rizal, and is complemented by surface, services, and support components.
Also aboard was an AgustaWestland AW-109 "Power" naval helicopter.
Before their departure, NTG 80.5 underwent rigorous health and safety protocols prior to boarding the participating PN vessel in order to ensure the safety of everyone amid the coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19) pandemic.
"Our participation in these exercise marks the beginning of a new era of naval operations as we build up our capabilities for modern warfare," said PN chief Vice Admiral Giovanni Carlo Bacordo, who served as presiding officer and keynote speaker for the send-off ceremony.
BRP Jose Rizal is the PN's first warship in the inventory that is equipped with multi-dimensional warfare capabilities.
Through this year's RIMPAC, the PN will be able to simulate and test the capabilities of this newly acquired platform and provide BRP Jose Rizal a venue to test the proficiency of Filipino naval personnel as they integrate into a wider range of operations.
Bacordo also urged the contingent to seize the opportunity to hone their skills and talents as they conduct operations in a joint and combined environment and later share their experiences with their colleagues.
"This will boost your team training and increase your operational readiness. But all of you need to observe safety protocols. In these challenging times, it is imperative to work together, learn together and be safe together," he added.
In light of safety protocols amid the Covid-19 pandemic, Roxas said exercises will be an at-sea event only.
"To ensure safety of all the contingents from different military forces, shore-based activities are minimized," she added.
RIMPAC is a United States-led naval exercise hosted by the US Navy's Pacific Fleet and held biennially.
Described as the world's premier and largest joint and combined naval exercise, RIMPAC is geared towards building trust and partnership with other navies, understanding the capabilities of other navies and enhancing inter-operability.
"The Navy's participation in this exercise trumpets its commitment in promoting multi-lateral cooperation leading to the strengthening of relationship and cooperation among regional and extra-regional navies," Roxas said. (PNA)
Post by: adroth on August 02, 2020, 09:48:24 AM
Navy's brand new frigate Jose Rizal departs for RIMPAC exercise in Hawaii
NAVAL STATION JOSE ANDRADA, Manila-The Philippine Navy (PN) held a simple send-off ceremony at Alava Wharf, SBMA, Zambales on July 29, 2020 for its contingent that will participate in the world's premier and largest joint and combined naval exercise dubbed as Rim of the Pacific Exercise 2020 (RIMPAC20) in Honolulu, Hawaii.
The participating Naval Task Group (NTG) 80.5 is onboard the newly-commissioned BRP Jose Rizal (FF150) with an embarked AW109 naval helicopter. NTG 80.5 is led by FF150's commanding officer, Capt. Jerry Garrido Jr. as the concurrent contingent commander, and complemented by the surface, services and support components.
Read more: https://navy.mil.ph/pn_web_news.php?news_id=2187
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Hawaii bound BRP Jose Rizal (FF150) arrives in Guam
Naval Station Jose Andrada, Manila – The Philippine Navy (PN) warship, BRP Jose Rizal (FF150) with an embarked shipborne helicopter detachment made its stop over at the Naval Base Guam, USA on August 02, on their way to join the Rim of the Pacific Exercise 2020 (RIMPAC2020) in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Said layover was intended for refueling, re-provisioning and other health and bio-safety protocols in order to check the wellbeing of the approximately 120 sailors and aviators amid the ongoing COVID-19 global pandemic. This serves also as the ship's preparation on the upcoming naval exercise.
BRP Jose Rizal (FF150) departs in Guam bound for Hawaii
Guam, USA – The Philippine Navy (PN) warship, BRP Jose Rizal (FF150) with an embarked shipborne helicopter detachment departed from Foxtrot 3 Wharf, Guam Commercial Port, APRA Harbor, Guam, USA on Aug. 05 bound for Honolulu, Hawaii, USA to participate in the world's premier and largest joint and combined naval exercise the Rim of the Pacific Exercise 2020 (RIMPAC20).
HENSOLDT UK delivers radar suite to the Philippine Navy Frigate BRP Jose Rizal
HENSOLDT UK has supplied a radar suite consisting of Kelvin Hughes Mk11 S and X Band radar systems to the Philippine Navy frigate BRP Jose Rizal, recently delivered by Hyundai Heavy Industries.
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Enfield, UK, 6th August 2020 – HENSOLDT UK has supplied a radar suite consisting of Kelvin Hughes Mk11 S and X Band radar systems to the Philippine Navy frigate BRP Jose Rizal, recently delivered by Hyundai Heavy Industries.
The SharpEye Mk11 radars are approved by the International Maritime Organization (IMO) and take advantage of the Kelvin Hughes' advanced solid state SharpEye Doppler technology that brings full situational awareness to the users even in the most severe weather conditions.
The solid-state SharpEye transceivers are located upmast in the carbon composite turning unit housing and bring additional benefits such as ease of installation and high reliability. The use of a direct drive motor system, rather than the traditional antenna rotator gearbox, reduces maintenance.
This is one of the first complete HENSOLDT radar suites to be delivered and includes HENSOLDT's TRS-3D, a three-dimensional multimode naval radar for air and sea surveillance. The TRS-3D includes a secondary radar MSSR 2000 I for Identification-friend-or-foe (IFF) as well as the SharpEye Mk11 radars.
Adrian Pilbeam, Head of Sales at HENSOLDT UK, commented: "HENSOLDT UK is pleased to be part of the modernisation of the Philippine Navy. The supply radar sensor suite from HENSOLDT demonstrates the strength of the combined group in providing complete Naval radar solutions."
A sister ship, BRP Antonio Luna, is still under construction at Hyundai Heavy Industries and will be delivered later this year.
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PH Navy frigate Jose Rizal now in Hawaii as RIMPAC 2020 nears kick-off
NAVAL STATION JOSE ANDRADA, Manila– The Philippine Navy's (PN) brand new and first missile-capable frigate, BRP Jose Rizal (FF150), with an embarked naval helicopter arrived in Joint Base Pearl Harbor-HICKAM, Hawaii, USA, today August 15 (Philippines time), to participate in the upcoming Rim of the Pacific Exercise 2020 (RIMPAC20) to be conducted from August 17 to 31.
While entering Pearl Harbor, the crew of FF150 conducted manning the rail and further rendered salute to USS Missouri and USS Arizona in honor of the fallen heroes during World War II.
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Medical team led by LTC Rachelle Judilla work with the ship's crew of FF150 and Agusta Westland 109, during the air evacuation drill to test the preparedness of the PN contingent in any emergency situation.
The team conducted loading and offloading of simulated evacuation patients from FF150 to AW109.
This is part of the preparation of the Navy contingent as RIMPAC 2020 is about to kick off in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Rim of the Pacific Exercise 2020 commences
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PACIFIC OCEAN (Aug. 21, 2020) Republic of the Philippines Navy ship BRP Jose Rizal (FF 150) transits the Pacific Ocean during Rim of the Pacific 2020. Ten nations, 22 ships, 1 submarine, and more than 5,300 personnel are participating in Exercise Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) from August 17 to 31 at sea around the Hawaiian Islands. RIMPAC is a biennial exercise designed to foster and sustain cooperative relationships, critical to ensuring the safety of sea lanes and security in support of a free and open Indo-Pacific region. The exercise is a unique training platform designed to enhance interoperability and strategic maritime partnerships. RIMPAC 2020 is the 27th exercise in the series that began in 1971. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Devin M. Langer)
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200820-N-TT059-2393 PACIFIC OCEAN (Aug. 20, 2020) Republic of the Philippines Navy ship BRP Jose Rizal (FF 150) participates in a tactical maneuvering drill with U.S. Coast Gaurd ship USCGC Munro (WMSL 755) and U.S. Navy guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Erie (CG 70) during exercise Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) 2020. Ten nations, 22 ships, one submarine, and more than 5,300 personnel are participating in Exercise RIMPAC from August 17 to 31 at sea around the Hawaiin islands. RIMPAC is a biennial exercise designed to foster and sustain cooperative relationships, critical to ensuring the safety of sea lanes and security in support of a free and open Indo-Pacific region. The exercise is a unique training platform designed to enhance interoperability and strategic maritime partnerships. RIMPAC 2020 is the 27th exercise in the series that began in 1971. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Lily Gebauer)
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Commander, U.S. 3rd Fleet
200818-N-NO842-8004 PACIFIC OCEAN (Aug. 18, 2020) Republic of the Philippines Navy ship BRP Jose Rizal (FF 150) conducts flight operations during Exercise Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) 2020.
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PACIFIC OCEAN (Aug. 21, 2020) Republic of the Philippines Navy ship BRP Jose Rizal (FF 150) steams in a multinational formation during a photo exercise off the coast of Hawaii during the Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) exercise.
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200820-N-NO842-8003 PACIFIC OCEAN (Aug. 20, 2020) Republic of the Philippines Navy ship BRP Jose Rizal (FF 150) conducts flight operations during Exercise Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) 2020. Ten nations, 22 ships, one submarine, and more than 5,300 personnel are participating in RIMPAC from August 17 to 31 at sea around the Hawaiian Islands.
The Philippine Navy (PN) held a tour of the brand new frigate BRP Jose Rizal with the members of the Defense Press Corps (DPC) followed by a press conference with the Navy chief and other PN senior officers earlier today, October 19.
This event aimed to showcase to the public, through the press, the aesthetics and advanced capabilities of FF150 that serves as a tangible manifestation of the PN's steady transformation and modernization to better serve the Filipino people.
To strictly observe health and safety protocols amid the ongoing pandemic, only select DPC members were allowed to board and tour the ship, while others participated in the press briefing virtually via Zoom application.
This hybrid of virtual and physical event also aimed to reaffirm PN's partnership with the DPC who have been instrumental on the Navy's efforts of building and promoting a reputation worthy of trust and confidence.
(Photos by: S2PH Joseph C Angue PN and S2PH Richard Deguilo PN/NPAO)
The Armed Forces of the Philippines concluded day one of its Joint Inter-Operability Exercises under the ongoing AFP Joint Exercise DAGIT-PA on Sunday, November 29, 2020 at Zambales.
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Delivery of primary weapons for Navy frigates set for 2021, 2022
By Priam Nepomuceno December 30, 2020, 9:23 am
MANILA – The Philippine Navy (PN) said Wednesday the surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles of BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150) and BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151) are scheduled for delivery in October next year and the first quarter of 2022, respectively.
"(Deliveries for) the surface-to-air missile is (on) October 2021 and March 2022 for the surface-to-surface missile," Navy public affairs office chief, Lt. Commander Maria Christina Roxas, said in a message to the Philippine News Agency (PNA) when sought for updates on the acquisition of primary weapons of the two guided-missile frigates.
Roxas said the surface-to-surface missile project is under "Frigate Acquisition Lot 2A" and that South Korean defense manufacturer LIG Nex 1 would deliver C-Star missiles.
The C-Star is described as a "sea-skimming surface-to-surface anti-ship cruise missile".
Meanwhile, the surface-to-air missile project is under "Frigate Acquisition Lot 2B" and was awarded to MBDA, France, which would deliver a quantity of Mistral 3 anti-aircraft missiles.
The BRP Jose Rizal and BRP Antonio Luna are modern warships capable of surface, sub-surface, air, and electronic warfare using state-of-the-art electronic sensors, long-range missiles, acoustic guided torpedoes, and an embarked anti-submarine helicopter.
The BRP Jose Rizal was delivered to the Philippines in May and commissioned last July, while the BRP Antonio Luna is expected to be delivered to the PN by February next year.
The contract for the two ships was placed at PHP16 billion with another PHP2 billion for weapon systems and munitions. (PNA)
In line with the objective of #PAGBUBUKLOD2021 Exercise to formulate and assess Surface Action Group Proficiency in conducting naval operations, Brp Jose Rizal FF150, together with the Navy's Islander Aircraft and AW109 Helicopter, execute simulated scenarios for Anti-Ship Missile Defense Maneuver, Air Craft Control Vectoring, Over The Horizon Targeting, and Air Defense Exercise.
The highlight of the scenario is the simulated engagement using Surface-to-Surface Missile and Surface-to-Air Missile, 76MM Super Rapid Gun, 30MM Stabilized Gun and Decoy Launch System.
Philippine Navy frigate BRP Jose Rizal (FF150) conducts operational level training for Surface-to-Air Missile (SAM), Fire Control Radar (FCR), and 76mm Super Rapid Multi-Feeding Gun from their respective Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEM).
FF150 is also continuing the Combat Information Centre Personnel Qualification Standard (CICPQS) Course, a pilot program for CIC and Weapons Personnel to enhance their warfare knowledge and expertise.
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