It is no secret that we love jerky and we want to know all about tasty, dried meats. In the history of beef jerky, we are pleased to report that there is plenty of evidence that people around the world have been enjoying this tasty, healthy and highly portable choice for a long, long time.
Reaching across the far corners of the globe and into the dark corners of history, we present a history of beef jerky.
Jerky has long been a popular way to preserve and enjoy nutrient dense food. Jerky is easily portable and has been a staple for many populations. Almost any meat can be made into jerky.
The oldest evidence of jerky has been found in Egypt. Thousands of years ago Ancient Egyptians were drying mass amounts of meat perhaps by laying strips of meat out in the sun. Archeologists made this discovery when they found dried foods preserved in tombs. Meat in jerky form is not subject to decay or insect infestation and could have been stored for long periods of time–especially in a tomb.
The word "jerky" comes from the Quechua language native to South America. The Incan empire had been making "Ch'arki" since about 1550. "Ch'arki" which means "dried meat" was a product from the Andes Mountain range.
Ch'arki was made from all kinds of pounded, deboned meat, but was probably most common from Alpaca and Llama which are native to the region and became domesticated about that time. Ch'arki was shared with the Spanish conquistadors in the area. Explorers were impressed with ch'arki and eventually brought it back to Western Europe.
Native Americans made a jerky variation called "Pemmican". Dried meat, fats and berries went into pemmican and it was highly sought-after. Pemmican's longevity and portability made it a favorite of explorers, pioneers and early settlers. Pemmican is a Cree word that comes from fat/grease and this jerky-like food became a trading staple of many Native American tribes.
Pemmican was made out of whatever meat was available which was usually Bison, Deer, Elk or Moose. Early pemmican makers used cranberries and Saskatoon berries, other berries like blueberries and cherries were used only in ceremonial or wedding pemmican.
The process of making pemmican differs from other jerky types. Meat was cut into thin slices then dried either in the hot sun or a slow burning fire until it was hard and brittle. Then the hard meat pieces were pounded with rocks until it became very small pieces or pulverized into a powder. Then the pounded meat was mixed with melted fat. Dried fruits were added, after also being pounded by stones. The result was a calorie dense mixture, high in fat.
There were three noted ways to eat pemmican. The first, and the simplest, was that it could be consumed as-is. Second, pemmican was made into a stew as it was mixed into water, flour and wild onions and potatoes; called "rubaboo". The third way, seen by hunters on the Great Plains was a fried pemmican cooked alone or with potatoes and onions. This was called "rechaud".
"Coppiette" is an Italian version of jerky. It is a dried meat stick that was once made of Horse or Donkey and consumed by poor farmers. Meat of the hind legs was cut into strips and slowly smoked, therefore tenderizing the meat. It was a means of using all the animal, not letting anything go to waste. Sheep and Goat were also used.
Coppiette comes from Castelli Romani, or Roman Castles, which is an area of small towns South East of Rome, Italy. Meat was seasoned with salt, fennel and red pepper flakes making this a tasty (if a little odd looking) dried meat stick. Meat was tied in twos which is where "copiette" gets its name "little couples" and dried in front of a hearth or fireplace for 60 days. For this reason, it was usually made in the winter months.
Coppiette was a popular dinner in local taverns and was served with crusty bread. As it is salty it made diners thirsty and they tended to order more wine. It is currently made from Pork, yet more traditional varieties can be found in small towns outside of Rome.
Ethiopians have a history of making their own variety of jerky called "Quant'a". Meat strips are seasoned with salt, black pepper and berbere or awaze. Berbere is a spice mix which includes chili peppers, garlic, ginger, basil, and fenugreek. It's a popular spice mix in the cuisines of Ethiopia and Eritrea.
Another form of jerky found in West Africa called "Kilishi". It is considered a delicacy in Hausa Land, a region of Nigeria and Niger with some populations in Cameroon, Côte d'Ivoire, Chad, Togo, Ghana, Sudan, Gabon and Senegal.
Kilishi is often a beef jerky made from Cow, but can also use Sheep or Goat. Each limb is deboned and each muscle is then sliced into thin, sheet-like sizes. The sheets of meat are allowed to dry in the sun, then submerged into a sauce of peanuts, water, ground onions and spices. It is then left to dry then roasted on a wire mesh. Preserved kilishi can be kept for months.
The history of beef jerky also has roots in South Africa. "Biltong" is a Dutch mash up of "bil" meaning rump and "tong" meaning tongue or strip.
Native South Africans such as the Khoikhoi had a process of preserving meat by slicing it into strips, curing it with salt and hanging it up to dry. The large game population of the region made meat preservation essential. European explorers tried to build up livestock herds but that took years. They needed preserved meat sooner and coined the term biltong. History points to the Voortrekkers, a group of Dutch pioneers, for spreading the popularity of biltong to the north in the 1800s.
Biltong was made by hanging meat outside for a period of about two weeks, otherwise known as a fortnight. People made biltong during the cold winter months, which helped inhibit spoiling. Traditionally, biltong was marinated in a vinegar solution for a few hours, then the liquid was poured off and the meat seasoned with salt and spices. Spice mixes consisted of rock salt, roasted coriander, black pepper and brown sugar. Vinegar is a great inhibitor of bacteria while the spices all have antimicrobial properties.
Modern day biltong is usually made with Beef. It is a common snack in South Africa and can be found in butcher shops and grocery stores. A major difference from jerky is that biltong is never smoked. Biltong may be eaten by itself or can be chopped up and added to stews, muffins and bread. Some people like to use is as a teething aid for babies.
The varied history of beef jerky shows that a vast number of people have been enjoying jerky throughout the ages. From the grass lands of Africa to the high plains of the US, the popularity of jerky simply cannot be argued. And lucky for you, you don't have to travel back in time or slice your meet as thin as sheets and dry it on a rock. Mountain America Jerky has you covered!
Yes! Great thought, Carol. China's historical form of jerky is called Bakkwa, and it is a salty dried meat product typically made with pork. It is thought to have derived from an Ancient Chinese technique for preserving meat and is considered a delicacy. With Bakkwa, meat is sliced thin, marinated and air dried before it is cooked over a hot plate. Have you tried it? Thanks for your input!


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Debates of March 6th, 2008
House of Commons Hansard #61 of the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was equality.
Government Response to Petitions
Business of Supply
Rights of the Unborn
Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame Gala
Order of Canada
Armand Brun
National Glaucoma Day
Réseau Award
Canada-U.S. Relations
Presence in Gallery
Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings
Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre Saskatchewan
Tom Lukiwski ConservativeParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Minister for Democratic Reform
Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8) I have the honour to table, in both official languages, the government's response to five petitions.
DarfurPetitionsRoutine Proceedings
Kevin Sorenson Conservative Crowfoot, AB
Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to present a petition signed by almost 100 constituents from towns in my riding in Alberta, including Camrose, Meeting Creek, Ohaton and Killam.
These petitioners share our government's concern about the violence in Darfur, Sudan, and the displacement of millions of people. They are calling on our government to continue to take action to find and implement a solution that would end the violence in Sudan.
I have received representations from many people in my riding in the past year concerning this matter. I am very proud of my constituents for taking the action to express their views. I am most proud of the younger generation who signed this petition, and who are making themselves aware and doing something about the way they feel and what they think about the disturbing situation in Sudan.
I am pleased today to present this petition.
Questions on the Order PaperRoutine Proceedings
March 6th, 2008 / 10:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I ask that all questions be allowed to stand.
The Speaker Liberal Peter Milliken
Is that agreed?
Some hon. members
Opposition Motion--Status of WomenBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders
Maria Minna Liberal Beaches—East York, ON
moved:
That, in the opinion of the House:
(a) women's equality is a matter of human rights and, since the Court Challenges Program was a useful tool in achieving that end, it should be reinstated;
(b) to provide a legitimate and necessary voice to the needs of women, research and advocacy should be restored to the government's Women's Program;
(c) an adequate supply of high quality childcare spaces is essential to ensuring women's participation in the workforce and the government should take the necessary steps immediately to create 125,000 spaces as it promised;
(d) since access to government services is essential in rural areas and the government's closure of 12 of 16 regional offices of Status of Women Canada further isolates rural women, the government should take immediate steps to improve access for our most isolated Canadians;
(e) there is a growing need in Canada for a national housing strategy designed to assist the most vulnerable in our society and to treat them with the respect they deserve; and
that, therefore, the House condemn the irresponsible and self-serving actions on November 28, 2005, by the New Democratic Party and the Bloc Québécois which led to the installation of a government that is hostile to the rights and needs of vulnerable Canadians.
York—Simcoe Ontario
Peter Van Loan ConservativeLeader of the Government in the House of Commons and Minister for Democratic Reform
Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order to bring to your attention the Liberal motion that is before the House for debate today.
The last paragraph reads as follows:
--the House condemn the irresponsible and self-serving actions on November 28, 2005, by the New Democratic Party and the Bloc Québécois which led to the installation of a government--
I refer you, Mr. Speaker, to Beauchesne's Sixth Edition, citation 923(4), which states:
It has been ruled that on an amendment to motions on allotted days, the conduct of an opposition party may not be brought into question.
This citation is from a Speaker's ruling which can be found at page 22998 of the Debates from February 18, 1983.
I put it to you, Mr. Speaker, that we are dealing with a very analogous situation here. If it is true that an amendment to an opposition motion cannot bring into question the conduct of an opposition party, then the very same should be true for the main motion itself.
There are other abnormalities in the motion which also should be taken into consideration. While it is standard practice to use opposition motions to express a loss of confidence in the government, it is quite another thing for an opposition motion to express a loss of confidence in the opposition or, at least in this case, two of the opposition parties.
The other flaw in the motion is that while it condemns the two other opposition parties for installing this government, the Liberal Party, that is the sponsor of this motion, votes or does not vote and in recent days undervotes in order to keep this government in power. Therefore, the motion is also a condemnation of the Liberal Party itself.
The hypocrisy of the motion is obvious and probably has no bearing on its admissibility, but the procedural acceptability of this motion must be reviewed by the Speaker.
In addition to its flaws, as outlined in the Speaker's ruling of February 18, 1983, the motion raises other questions. What if this motion were to pass? Would the opposition be obliged to resign? I would like an answer to that before the House votes on this question because, if it is true, the government may just support it.
The hon. government House leader has raised a number of arguments, some of which have some procedural bearing. Perhaps some clearly do not. I am prepared to look at the matter and I will come back to the House later this day if there are serious reservations that the Chair may have about the motion.
In the meantime, this motion has been selected for debate and points of order were not raised about it prior to today. I think the House will proceed with it for the moment and, as I have indicated, I will come back to the House.
I do not think the words of the motion express a lack of confidence in the opposition. The word was "condemn". While the minister may have some ground to suspect that he lacks confidence in the opposition, I do not think it is based on this motion.
Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON
Mr. Speaker, on that very point, I know you are a long time student of the rules and practices of Parliament. On the issue of opposition day motions, it is that word "condemn". It is that magic word that has been held on previous occasions to be the mark of a non-confidence motion.
Were this motion to actually express that it condemns this government, that would be seen as a non-confidence motion quite properly by the government. So, it is that use of the word "condemn" that usually is the trigger for a confidence motion.
That is why the use of it here in this case serves as a lack of confidence in the opposition itself, as I was raising, which is a very unusual situation to deal with here. That is why I think it requires your attention.
I thank the government House leader for his diligence in this matter. I also note that what makes me reluctant to give a ruling immediately is the fact that I am going to want to look at this motion.
He suggested that an amendment was out of order because it condemned the opposition. Of course, in those days, in 1983, anyone could move an amendment. So I can see where it might be out of order for a government to move an amendment to an opposition motion that condemned the opposition. I am not sure if it was the amendment on which the ruling was made and not the main motion.
My understanding of the practice, and I am going off the top of my head, is that oppositions can do pretty well whatever they want on an opposition day, so the House is sort of, if I can say, stuck with dealing with it.
I am not suggesting that we are stuck today or anything like that, but we will now proceed with the motion before the House.
The hon. member for Beaches--East York.
Mr. Speaker, it is an honour for me today to speak to this motion. In two days we will be celebrating International Women's Day, but there is nothing to celebrate when it comes to the actions of the government with respect to women.
There is a very disturbing pattern with the Conservative government when it comes to intimidating and shutting down those who believe anything that is contrary to its own right-wing ideology, whether it be cutting funding, changing regulations, libel chill, bullying, and others that come to mind.
The government has failed Canadian women in several ways. Just to name a few, they are: child care, access to government services, failure to sign the UN declaration on the rights of indigenous people, cutting off funding for research and advocacy, tax policies, affordable housing and pay equity. This is a pattern pushing women down, setting them back a considerable amount of time.
The theme for International Women's Day is "Strong women, Strong world". The government is not helping women become stronger in this country. It is not removing the barriers that exist for women entering the workforce or to save money.
The government is doing nothing to help women become strong in this country. Let us look at some of the things that have happened in the last little while. Early education and child care is a major example. The first thing the government did was cut $5 billion from a national child care program which had been agreed upon by all provinces in this country.
The government cancelled those agreements outright. The moneys that were flowing were also eliminated which meant it started to dismantle some of the existing infrastructure that was being paid for by the initial $1 billion investment made by the Liberals.
The government promised, after having done all of that destruction, to deliver 125,000 child care spaces, but it never did. Nothing ever materialized. This disproportionately affects women as we all know, especially single mothers with restricted incomes.
Child care in my riding of Beaches—East York is backed up. I hear constituents every day. A new child care and youth centre opened last fall called Enderby. Within days there were waiting lists. One of my constituents, a mother, had lost her job because she was not able to secure full time child care for her child.
Then we say: "but we want people to work, we want people to be self-sufficient economically, and we want to help women's economic security". How? How are we helping this woman and her child?
There is a child care crisis in our country and the government talks and promises, and talks and promises, but nothing ever materializes.
That is quite destructive and I do not think I have to go too far because I have seen the people in my riding who are desperately looking for child care and cannot find it. It costs them a tremendous amount of money, $1,300 or more per month, for a child care space if they do not have subsidy.
Let us look at another area, such as access to government services. Here again, the government says it wants to serve women, but it shut down 12 out of 16 regional Status of Women Canada offices across this country.
I met with rural women not too long ago who told me how they are very desperately isolated in their communities. They have no access to government services. If there is domestic violence in the home against a woman, there are next to no shelters to go to.
They pointed out that poverty is not just in the big cities, it exists in rural Canada. Many farm women, as well as their husbands, have to work off the farm in order to make ends meet. There is no training and services, and yet, what does the government do? It shuts down regional offices.
If people live in Newfoundland, they have to go to Moncton to access an office. Do members know how far that is? Of course, the assumption is that everyone has Internet, which is not true.
Again, the government has isolated and trapped these women, especially the poorest, and especially those who may be facing violence and difficulties in their lives. They need access to these services and they have been cut off.
The government keeps talking about caring about women's equality and women's conditions and yet it has cut off services, to, I presume, save some money because I do not see any other reason for this. The government has left only four offices for the entire country. This is a large country and it is far to travel and women in rural Canada have no way of accessing these offices.
Women talked to me when they heard about the offices closing. They were stunned at the government's sheer vendetta against the Status of Women Canada. This is how they saw it. It now seems to be the voice of REAL Women that is setting the policy. I have seen that from the standing committee a number of times. It probably told us that it had met with the minister. In fact, the Minister of Finance only consulted with two organizations, one of which was REAL Women prior to the budget process.
Let us look at what happened just recently. Canada failed to sign the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
My colleague from Winnipeg South Centre has been very vocal on this. The Conservative government's vote against the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples last year was a stain on our international reputation. It marked the first time Canada voted against a human rights document. It has sent a message to aboriginal women in Canada that the Conservative government will pick and chose when it will apply and respect human rights in this country.
For women, the declaration contained gender equality and non-discrimination clauses. The government's refusal to support the declaration shows a blatant disregard for the struggles of aboriginal women in Canada to achieve equality. Canada's aboriginal women deserve better.
It is not too late for the Conservative government to reverse its ideological opposition to the United Nations declaration and to send a message to aboriginal women that their rights are human rights.
I will give a very quick example with respect to aboriginal women in terms of other areas where the government has acted.
The court challenges program, which I will come to again later, was cancelled by the government. One specific example is the McIvor case. This is an aboriginal woman who, with the support and the assistance of the charter challenge fund, was able to fight for her rights that were being discriminated against under the Indian Act. She was able to go to the Supreme Court of British Columbia and win. Now that the government is appealing that decision to the Supreme Court of Canada and there is no charter challenge program, this woman cannot fight for herself anymore because she no longer has the ability to fight. Again, this is a wonderful picture: the great big government with all of its resources and this single aboriginal woman who it is afraid to give a penny to just in case she might be able to fight for her own rights in this country.
The charter challenge program was set up so that those people who were not wealthy could defend themselves and fight for their rights just as much as those who have money so that there would be equal opportunity of rights in this country for everybody, but it seems that it is selective.
The next thing the government did was cut off funding for research and advocacy. This was one of the very first acts of the government. For decades, groups, NGOs, volunteer groups and women's organizations have been funded to conduct valuable research and advocacy work, work that gave women rights. The rape shield law was changed because of work by these organizations. Our right to vote happened because women were courageous and fought. Our rights in the Constitution would not have happened had there not been women who organized and fought to ensure that women's equality were entrenched in the Constitution.
When it comes to violence against women, yes, there are programs that assist women who may need assistance but there is not enough money, nowhere enough shelters and, as I mentioned earlier, the problems for rural women.
The women who are lucky enough to get a program to help their specific situation may help but there is no money available to change the conditions, the policies, the environment, the culture and the violence these women live with. That is no longer possible because we cannot get money for research and cannot advocate research money.
The Standing Committee on the Status of Women has had many hearings recently. We have been studying the human trafficking of women and children, economic security of women and violence against women. Do members know who comes before us? It is women's organizations that have done research and are advocating and informing the standing committee on these issues so we can make sensible recommendations to the House. In future, these organizations will no longer be there because they have already started to shut their doors.
The irony in all this is that the government will fund $500,000 worth of lobby money to the Conference of Defence Associations lobby group, a group that will lobby the government for contracts for arms and military equipment but it will not fund women's advocacy organizations that fight for women's rights. How sad is that?
The government has clearly not been doing any gender based analysis on its budgets because most, if not all, of its social provisions in the last several budgets have been done through the tax policy, which are very detrimental when it comes to women because women hardly benefit from them.
If the government were to do a gender budgeting analysis, it would ignore the results. I suspect that it did not do a real one at all.
When Kathleen Lahey, a professor at Queen's University, came to our standing committee of the House of Commons, she noted that the $1,200 that was supposed to be for the universal child care program, which is money given to everyone, misses the women and families who need it the most.
First, the $1,200 is taxed back in the hands of the person who receives it. A single income family is likely to keep most of it but if both husband and wife are working they get much less. A single mother gets much less so they are lucky to get half of it and still there are no spaces for child care and no infrastructure. The income itself does not really help anyone financially to do anything. As an income support, it is too low and, as a child care measure, it is laughable, quite frankly. It seems to me that this program was designed specifically to damage or hurt.
To be more specific, let us look at a low income single mother for instance. If her children are under six, then she gets maybe $50 of the $100 a month that is supposed to go to her for child care. First, there are no spaces, and second, child care spaces cost upwards of 20 times that amount. It is not a child care program no matter how many times the Conservative government refers to it as universal child care. There is nothing universal about it because there is no access. It is income support and it is taxed back. The people who suffer the most from this are women.
Our side of the House, the Liberal Party, did have and still has a program called a child benefit program. It was described as the most significant social policy in decades when it was introduced but the current government had to play around with that too. It eliminated the young child supplement. Not only do low income women not have child care, because the $1,200 does not work, but they also lost the young child supplement. Since the Conservatives have been in power they have done nothing to increase the child benefit program. So much for their interest in eradicating child poverty, assisting families with children and assisting women who generally suffer the most in these areas.
Continuing with the tax policy way of doing things, let us look at pension splitting. Pension splitting has been touted as the biggest thing but it only benefits about 12% of seniors and only those seniors who have very large pensions, who tend to be men and not women. If both husband and wife have worked throughout life and saved probably the same amount of money, they do not benefit very much because as one gets lower on the income scale one saves very little. If someone is single, there is nobody to split with anyway. The largest group of poor people in our country as seniors are women who are not able to split with anyone. Of the seniors in this country, 1.7 million are not helped by this at all. This, again, is a scheme that helps wealthy Canadian seniors who, I guess, are happy and have no problems. However, low to middle income seniors in general are not helped and women in particular are completely left out in the cold.
Again, this is another tax measure that does not work and certainly not for women.
We have said that the government cannot deliver. Five thousand dollars is the next one in the most previous budget. Now we have a $5,000 tax-free savings account, which supposedly will help seniors to save money. First, they need to have $5,000 to save and a lot of seniors do not have $5,000. A lot of poor mothers, single moms and women do not have that much money. This account will be a good top-up to the RRSP for the people who have it but it certainly does not help the average woman in this country who, by the way, earns about $38,000 a year according to the data that I have seen. While there are women who earn a lot more, that is the average income and many other women are below that.
The government does not understand that it cannot deliver social programs through the tax system because it does not work. Maybe it is doing that purposely, and that has been my conclusion. It has spent all this time emptying the cupboard and now the cupboard is bare, and it has left women behind in the process. It has spent billions of dollars.
The GST cut will help people who have lots of money but for the average income family chances are they will not save a lot of money, but they will have lost a lot in investment that could have happened, some of which I have already mentioned.
Lisa Philipps of Osgoode Hall Law School, who appeared before a Senate committee that is studying the gender budgets, said:
...one must always consider I think is the impact on men and women as individuals. In other words, we need to get beyond the household-level analysis, which is the standard analysis that's done by tax policy-makers. There's an assumption that if you deliver a tax cut to a household, all members of the household will benefit equally. I would disagree with that. I think giving a tax cut to the breadwinner does not guarantee that women will get a share of it.
That is why we have asked that it not do just do a gender budgeting analysis, but then listen to the results because if the policy then does the exact opposite of what the results show, and the results obviously show that women are being left behind, then that is a real problem.
In 2004, 38% of women did not have a high enough income to even pay income tax. These women will not benefit from any Conservative tax credits at all. The importance of gender budgeting should not be understated because it is very important.
On the issue of affordable housing, the government has not put any money into housing at all. I just want to quote the Ontario minister for municipal affairs for Ontario who said:
Under [Minister of Human Resources and Social Development] watch, funding for affordable housing will steadily go down, starting this fiscal year, because he has refused to even consider a new program.
On affordable housing, who are affected the most? Women, low income families, middle income families and women are affected the most. Our 30-50 plan is one that works.
As I have to wrap up, I note that I would have liked to talk about pay equity. One of my colleagues may do that for me today or perhaps I can do it through questions.
Chilliwack—Fraser Canyon B.C.
Chuck Strahl ConservativeMinister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development and Federal Interlocutor for Métis and Non-Status Indians
Mr. Speaker, it is interesting to listen to some of what I guess we could call a diatribe from the Liberals this morning to see what they are thinking about the budget. Of course, we know what they did about the budget. What they did about the budget was that they did not bother showing up to vote. That is what we know for sure, which really leads us to think two things.
One is that the hon. member does not really believe anything she just said. She said it is a terrible budget for women, an awful thing, a catastrophe on every level and a disaster no matter how we cut it. One possibility, I guess, is that she does not really believe it, but of course we have to believe hon. members, so she probably does believe it.
What that means, then, is that she believes it but is putting her own self-interest and the interests of her party ahead of the interests of women. That is also credible and I think probably true as well. The Liberals think more about their own political skins than they do about the actual people they say they represent. That is why they do not show up to vote. That is why we have spent eight months here and on every critical vote they do not bother to come. They just do not show up, but they say they care.
That leads me to my point. If saying "we care" got the job done, the Liberals would have had it all solved already. Jeepers, they care. They care about everything. They care from dawn to dusk. They care in the media. They care in their speeches. They just do not do anything about it.
For example, yesterday we announced five more shelters to help aboriginal women and protect them against violence. Why five more shelters? Because there is a need for them. Why? Because the Liberals did not put them in place. That is why we had to move in and help with five more shelters for first nations ladies: because it was a need that was obvious and that is why we filled it. We cannot match the Liberals for rhetoric, but as for getting the job done, certainly.
The Liberals talked about Indian residential schools settlement for a very, very long time. How much money did they pay out?
An hon. member
Chuck Strahl Conservative Chilliwack—Fraser Canyon, BC
Nothing. Not a dime, not a cent, not a penny, not a bit. Why? Because they talk a good line but they just do not get it done.
The Liberals talked about a specific claims tribunal. Why? Because it is necessary. We moved ahead with it and the tribunal will have $2.5 billion in a process that first nations want to see happen. That is because we did it while the Liberals talked about it.
Finally, on the issue of human rights, the Liberals talked about the rights of indigenous people at the United Nations. For 30 years, the United Nations has been saying to this country to remove the prohibition that precludes first nations from being protected in their basic human rights here in Canada. People do not know this, but there are no human rights on reserves because the Liberals, for the past eons, said it was just not a priority. That is something we have corrected. We had to fight tooth and nail, as we did--
The Deputy Speaker NDP Bill Blaikie
Order. I hate to interrupt the minister in full flight, but I have given him a full three minutes to ask a question and we have other people rising. The hon. member for Beaches—East York.
First, Mr. Speaker, I find it extremely disturbing that the gentleman opposite considers women's issues a diatribe. That tells me a great deal about what his party thinks about women.
He bragged that his party did the residential schools settlement. It was all done already by us. All the Conservatives did was write the cheque. Had our government not fallen, it would have been done nonetheless.
The Conservatives eliminated the child care program. How can they talk about having solved child care?
Yes, they are funding some shelters for women on reserves. There are never enough shelters. No question about it, that is great, but they have shut down the voices of women. Women cannot speak to fight. Providing shelters is important, but we also need to change the culture of violence in this country. For that kind of stuff, the Conservatives will not allow any advocacy, so it does not really work at all.
The Conservatives say that we did not solve child care. There was $5 billion. It was solved. They cancelled it. Why does the hon. member not tell us why they felt the need to destroy something that was working in this country and was helping families and women?
Again, the Conservatives are not doing anything on housing. There was a housing program, which--
There is $1.4 billion.
No, that is not true. The program was cancelled. The money is going down and no new money has been put in.
The hon. member can say it is a diatribe, but at the end of the day the Conservative government has done more destructive things than I have seen in a long time. Quite frankly, I do not think the Conservatives can brag too much.
Penny Priddy NDP Surrey North, BC
Mr. Speaker, it is really a very interesting point that the member opposite has raised, because this is about what the current government has not done and what is not in the budget.
I need to remind people that there were 18 Liberal women who helped the 2008 budget pass on March 4. These were: the members for London West, Brampton West, St. Paul's, Oakville, Guelph, Brampton—Springdale, Laval—Les Îles, Vancouver Centre, Mississauga East—Cooksville, Thornhill, Nunavut, Churchill, Sudbury, Beaches—East York, Winnipeg South Centre, Don Valley East, York West and Newmarket—Aurora. They all said this budget should pass.
Therefore, I am astounded at what I now am hearing from an opposition member who passed the budget.
I have worked on child care through three cabinet portfolios in previous times. I was very encouraged at one stage that child care might actually come about.
Now those Liberal members say that the government was dissolved 46 days before they wanted it dissolved. Now they say that in those 46 days they was going to secure child care. In 46 days? That is a miracle.
Those members opposite say they were going to clean up the environment in 46 days. That is another miracle.
They were going to alleviate the living conditions of aboriginal people in 46 days. That is another miracle.
I would really like the member to tell me, having been there all that time, why the Liberals waited until the last 46 days to do those things.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. member can be very smug all she wants. The facts--
Oh, oh!
And self-righteous, I am sorry, but the facts are these. The NDP had a deal with the Liberals and for the first time in 30 years that party had some real power. The NDP members decided to throw it away because they decided they wanted an election. Why?
On the table were programs that were already in place: child care, Kelowna, and the environment. Those members chose. They wanted an election. Why they did that, I do not know, because they knew that if the Liberals lost the vote the Conservatives would come in. If NDP members believed that the Conservative Party would keep all those programs, they were fooling themselves.
Now, today, those members want another election. The NDP wants elections all the time. If there were an election, I do not think the NDP would form the government. If the NDP does not form the government, that means it is the Liberals or the Conservatives. If the Conservatives come back, all this stuff is off the table again. What does the NDP really want to accomplish with another election, except to continue the existing--
Order. A final comment or question, the hon. member for Jeanne-Le Ber.
Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC
Mr. Speaker, we are witnessing a rather sad spectacle in the House this morning, just a couple of days before International Women's Day.
When I started to read the Liberal motion, I thought that perhaps they were actually taking an interest in the status of women in our society. There are several things in this motion that the Bloc could easily go along with, such as the reinstatement of the court challenges program that the Conservatives abolished.
However, at the end of the motion, in its pathetic conclusion, we see that the Liberal Party can stoop pretty low. In fact, it is using this motion to criticize the Bloc Québécois and the NDP. This is a sorry way to use women, who deserve the dignity of a non-partisan debate in this House.
It is really pathetic that the Liberal Party is associating such a ridiculous partisan issue with women's issues, especially since what they are accusing the Bloc Québécois and the NDP of is standing up to this government, a government that has schemed and stolen from Quebeckers and Canadians for years.
I would like to know whether the member, as a woman, thinks it is okay for her party to stoop to the level of turning this into a completely partisan issue.
Mr. Speaker, I can say that for a long time my party has fought for women's rights. I myself have spent a good many years, both before my election and since then, in fighting for women's rights, for child care, for the child tax credit, for income support for children and for housing.
We Liberals had that in place. Obviously, after the election it disappeared. I am continuing that fight. I am continuing to try to convince the government of the day to actually reinstate some of those programs.

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Germany, where it is today, was the place where people had managed to craft two brilliant things.
If they were completely warrior tribe, the making of flute suggests they surely liked to play music.
These are way older than Ancient Egyptians .


Suit or shirt, tea or coffee, cloud or on premise. Our whole life is a combination of conscious and subconscious decisions. They can be made through either an intuitive or reasoned process, or a combination of the two. Independent from the level of difficulty we fall victim to the same cognitive and personal biases. Especially personal and cultural decisions are sometimes hard to make, cause the establishment and enumeration of the underlying criteria is hard.
The technological developments of the last decade have made poor decision making easier, more immediate, and more widely consequential. A good understanding of your decision making process and well known biases helps you to make better judgment. That said the talk will give you a psychology overview about the process of decision making and common pitfalls. It will share some tricks to make the right choices and cases of invaluable weak criteria.


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Q: Need to read a file with multiple lines of integers into an array I need to read a file of ints into an array in C. A sample of the file I need to read is below, though note the files this will process can have thousands or hundreds of thousands of lines.
127
234
97
8723

I've gotten the file open in C, read how many lines there are so I know how many spaces my array needs, but I can't seem to read/parse each line into the array.
FILE *file;
int N = 0;
char filePath[30];
char endFile;

printf("What file should be used?\n");
scanf("%s", filePath);

file = fopen(filePath, "r");

if(file == NULL) {
    printf("This file failed to open.\n");
    break;
}

for(endFile = getc(file); endFile!=EOF; endFile=getc(file))
    if(endFile == '\n') {
        N = N+1;
    }
int myArray[N];

while(fscanf(file, "%d\n", &a) != EOF) {
    fscanf(file, "%d\n", &a); // I'm not sure this line is needed...
    printf("%d\n", a);
    M[i] = a;
}

From here, I need to read the file contents into myArray, with each line being the corresponding spot in the array (i.e. line zero is myArray[0], line one is myArray[1], etc.). I can't seem to find a way to do this, though I see several methods to do tab-delimited 2d arrays or csv multi-dimensional arrays.
Please also let me know if creating the array/determining the array size can be done in a better way than literally counting new-line characters...

A: There's no need to first "count the number of lines".
The following code cautiously grows an array of integers (by increments of 10).
#define GROW 10
int *rec = NULL, nRec = 0, sz = 0;
while( fgets( buf, sizeof buf, ifp ) != NULL ) {
    if( nRec == sz ) {
        rec = realloc( rec, (nRec+GROW) * sizeof *rec );
        /*omitting test for failure */
        sz += GROW;
    }
    rec[ nRec++ ] = atoi( buf );
}

This shows what is possible.
Note that realloc() can fail, returning NULL... It's up to you to add a bit of code to handle that condition.
Further, some conventional thought is to double the size of the allocation when needed (because realloc() may not be 'cheap'.) You can decide if you want to grow the array in increments (of 1024?) or grow it exponentially.

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Sederavond of seideravond (Hebreeuws: leel haseder – ליל הסדר) is een avond aan het begin van het zeven (in Israël) of acht (buiten Israël) dagen durende Pesachfeest, waarop joden uit de Haggada lezen, 4 glazen wijn (of druivensap) drinken en een feestelijke sedermaaltijd gebruiken. De Haggada behandelt het verhaal van de Joodse slavernij in Egypte en de uittocht uit Egypte. Seder (סדר) betekent letterlijk: volgorde of orde, omdat de gebruiken volgens een volgorde of orde worden uitgevoerd die eveneens in de Haggada staat. Haggada betekent: vertelling.

De maaltijd
Seder betekent "orde". De maaltijd wordt dan ook volgens een vaste orde gebruikt, die uit 15 stappen bestaat. Op de tafel staat een seiderschotel met een aantal symbolische gerechten, en een schaal met drie matzes, die bedekt zijn met een doek.

 De seidermaaltijd wordt geopend met de Kidoesj, de zegening over een glas wijn. Daarna drinkt iedereen een eerste glas wijn.
 Handen wassen, waarbij de broge die normaliter wordt gezegd bij het wassen van de handen voor een maaltijd wordt weggelaten.
 Indopen van, de karpas, groene kruiden zoals peterselie en radijs, in zout water, waarbij een zegening wordt uitgesproken.
 De middelste matze van de drie onder de doek wordt in tweeën gebroken. De grootste van beide helften, afikomen genoemd, wordt verstopt. Aan het eind van de avond wordt die helft weer tevoorschijn gehaald en opgegeten. In gezinnen zijn verschillende tradities voor het verstoppen, soms doen de kinderen het, soms de ouders.
 Het eerste deel van de Haggada wordt gelezen. Elke deelnemer aan de maaltijd heeft een eigen boekje. Hierbij komen de vier vragen aan de orde, de tien plagen van Egpyte en het verhaal van de uittocht uit Egypte. De symboliek van de gerechten op de sederschotel en de matzes wordt uitgelegd. Er wordt een tweede glas wijn gedronken.
 Opnieuw worden de handen gewassen, ditmaal met het uitspreken van de zegening.
 De matzes worden gegeten, met de zegening voor het eten van brood en...
 de speciale zegening voor het eten van het ongerezen brood. Daarbij houdt het hoofd van het gezin alle drie de matzes met beide handen vast.
 Het bittere kruid (maror) wordt in de zoete charoset gedoopt en gegeten.
 Er wordt een stukje matze met maror gegeten.
 De maaltijd wordt gegeten; een volledig feestmaal.
 De afikomen wordt gezocht en gegeten. Hierna wordt niets meer gegeten.
 De zegening na het eten.
 Een aantal psalmen wordt gezegd.
 Aan het eind van de maaltijd wenst iedereen elkaar geluk met de wens "volgend jaar in Jeruzalem". Er worden nog wat bepaalde liederen gezongen.

Kinderen
De sederavond is vooral bedoeld om kinderen te leren over de geschiedenis van het joodse volk, zodat de tradities bewaard zullen blijven.

Tijdens de sederavond wordt aan de hand van de tekst in de Haggada verteld en gezongen over de uittocht uit Egypte. De aandacht van de kinderen wordt vastgehouden door een aantal bijzondere gebruiken en momenten. In het Ma Nisjtana ('Waarin verschilt?') stelt het jongste kind vier vragen over gebruiken die anders zijn op sederavond dan op andere avonden. De vier traditionele vragen zijn:

 Op andere avonden kunnen we gerezen of ongerezen brood eten. Waarom eten we vanavond alleen matzes?
 Op andere avonden eten we allerlei groenten, waarom eten we vanavond alleen bittere groenten?
 Op andere avonden dopen wij onze groenten niet in, waarom dopen we vanavond onze groenten twee maal in zout water?
 Op andere avonden mogen we rechtop zitten of hangen in onze stoel, maar vanavond hangen we allemaal, waarom is dat?

Meestal worden deze zingend gesteld en beantwoord. Ma Nisjtana is al beschreven in de Misjna, Mondelinge Leer, en heeft een wereldwijd onder Joden bekende traditionele melodie. Vaak lezen ook kinderen de 'vier zonen' voor, ieder met een verschillend soort vraagstelling: de wijze, naïeve en kwade zoon en de zoon die nog geen vragen kan stellen. Beide stukken uit de Haggada behandelen de gesprekken over de slavernij en uittocht - met kinderen en volwassenen - die gebruikelijk zijn op sederavond. Een derde gebruik voor kinderen is het 'stelen' van een hiervoor bestemd stuk matze, de afikoman. Wanneer deze niet wordt gevonden (bij sommige gezinnen het geval) moet de sederleider deze 'terugkopen' met cadeautjes voor aanwezige kinderen.

Symboliek

De sedermaaltijd bestaat uit het eten van ongezuurde broden en bittere kruiden en is uitgegroeid tot een maaltijd met als centrum de sederschotel, met ongezuurd brood (matse), een geroosterd lamsbotje, een gekookt en daarna gebraden ei, als bittere kruiden (maror) wordt in Nederland mierikswortel gebruikt, en er is ook zoet charoset. De maror staat symbool voor de onderdrukking van de Joden in Egypte, de matzes voor het feit dat ze overhaast uit Egypte moesten vertrekken, zonder tijd om het brood te laten rijzen. De charoset staat voor het geluk na de bevrijding, maar de vorm van het gerecht doet juist denken aan het cement tussen de stenen waarmee de Joden als slaven voor de oude Egyptenaren steden hebben gebouwd. Geen religieus voorschrift maar gewoon een gebruik, is het eten van soep met matseballen tijdens de sedermaaltijd. Tijdens het bestaan van de joodse tempels, toen Joodse families tijdens Pesach nog op bedevaart naar Jeruzalem gingen, werd er ook een lammetje geslacht. Het botje op de sederschotel herinnert nog aan dat gebruik.

Pesach
Maaltijd

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Porto are GUNNER get it!!!
I've a burning belief that Arsenal will destroy Porto tonight. The players should be stung by the performance on Saturday against Hull City and will be out to prove people wrong.
Porto are no mugs but I'm sure that Le Boss has got it drilled into the players that a big performance is necessary.
Its quite a touch that we have such an important game straight after the Hull debacle. It's also quite pleasing that the game is at home too. It's a chance for the squad to pull together and get the right result.
Its important we get back to winning ways and it's a chance for the team to show how they respond to such a defeat. We did it well earlier in the season after losing to Fulham and the players need to show a similar response.
I can see the side being 100% committed tonight which is about a 99.9% improvement from Saturday. If we aren't then I'll eat my autographed Arsenal football that I've had since I was about ten. So I'll be gutted if I'm wrong.
Porto will believe that they can get something from the game and it's up to Arsenal and 60,000 Gooners to show them they will get jack-shit.
So c'mon Arsenal, give it to Porto.
There is no room for sentiment-Toure must be dropped.
Its hurts to say but I think that Le Boss needs to drop Kolo Toure and bring Johan Djourou into the side.
It's obvious that the Toure-Gallas partnership isn't working. There is no doubt that both are superb defenders but as a pair they struggle.
Both need a dominant player alongside them. Toure was immense with Sol Campbell and Gallas equally as good with John Terry next to him.
Djourou can be the dominant centre back we require. Physically he is the right size and when he has played he has looked the part.
I have defended Gallas in the past and will continue to do so. Gooners are split on him and I imagine we always will be. He was blamed for Hull's second goal from the corner but it wasn't his fault. In fact it was Toure's.
Toure was actually marking Cousin and lost him. Gallas was trying to deal with it and was caught out by Toure losing his man.
I think Gallas brings more to the side than Toure and out of the two I'd say Gallas is the more in-form player. Toure hasn't been the same since coming back from the ANC in January and needs to be the player sacrificed.
I think the problem at Arsenal is complacency. Certain players are undroppable and they know it. Le Boss needs to shake things up and at the back is the first place I'd start.
We all love Toure and rightly so but we can't be blinded by that. He is the player that needs to be dropped in favour for Djourou and you never know, in the long run it will do him good.
Keep it Goonerish.........
Well done Hull City, you deserved that. Back to the drawing board Arsene!
I wrote before that underestimating Hull City would bite us on the arse and that has proved correct.
Hull City fully deserved the three points at the Emirates and credit is due to Phil Brown and the Hull players for the way they performed.
Hull were very impressive and they took advantage of a complacent Arsenal side who have to stop believing that they can simply turn up at the Emirates and wipe teams aside.
It doesn't work like that in football and Hull exposed some worrying flaws that are in danger of ruining our season.
We cant defend corners and our inability to take our chances may cost us any chance of silverware. How many times did our players decide to take an extra touch instead of just shooting? It is so frustrating to watch.
We cannot score the perfect goal every time, sure its pretty when it works but when the chance is there it needs to be taken.
I said before we need to bring Martin Keown back to help organise the defence and I haven't changed my mind on that. It worked well when Keown was drafted back in 2006 and I'm sure it will work again.
I'm not panicking, yet. Its too early in the season for the panic button. Despite two defeats Manchester United cannot overtake us point wise even if they win their game in hand. Nobodies writing them off and they are in a worse position than us.
I'm very disappointed at the result but the way we lost hurts more. Hull wanted it more than us and you have to question the Arsenal players commitment when the going gets tough.
Le Boss has put his faith in this Arsenal squad and it's time that they started to repay him for that.
Well done Hull City.
Keep it Goonerish............
I hate seeing Thierry Henry suffer at Barcelona.......
Thierry Henry is suffering at Barcelona and it breaks my heart to see the situation that he is in.
The man is a legend at Arsenal and I thought he would have ended his career with us. Obviously that didn't happen and although I, like every Gooner, was sad to see him leave, I wished him no malice and hoped he would be happy in Spain.
I wanted him to be successful at Barca (not at Arsenal's expense) because he is great player and provided us Gooners with so many great memories.
Thierry Henry is one of the greatest players of all time and we Gooners were privileged to have seen him in an Arsenal shirt for so long. Henry was privileged too, he had the best relationship with us and he knew it too. Hence the reason he has declared himself a Gooner for life.
To see him suffer like he is at Barca is a very sad sight. I believed he was about to tear the Spanish league up and become a Barca legend. If truth be told the move couldn't have gone more wrong for him.
He is played out of position all the time and isn't the main man at the club by far. He doesn't seem to get the adulation he received at Arsenal and that hurts him.
I believe Titi only left Arsenal for personal reasons. He suffered a bad break up with his wife and that is the main reason he left Arsenal for pastures new.
It's obvious that Henry needs to get out of Spain and quick. Would I want him back at Arsenal? No. My heart says yes but my brain disagrees. I couldn't bear to see Henry back at Arsenal struggling. He has suffered from injuries and isn't the same player we adored.
He needs to go to another club. Maybe Italy? The pace is slower and that may suit him. The USA has been bandied about. This makes sense for commercial reasons but the standard of football is way off the mark for a legend like Henry.
Whatever happens I want Henry out of Barca and enjoying his football again. I want to see that smile of his light up the pitch like we saw so many times.
Henry deserves better than his current situation and I hope that he gets it.
Dont underestimate Hull City or it may bite us on the arse...
On paper a home game against Premiership newbies Hull City should an easy three points. But life isn't paper and the reality is that Hull will not come to the Emirates and lay down.
They have a manager in Phil Brown who is basically a Sam Allardyce clone. He will have seen the problems that Bolton caused us under Fat Sam and will try to replicate them.
Expect a lot of long-balls and in general trying to kick the shit out of the Arsenal players. Hull have nothing to lose and wont expect anything from the game. That makes them dangerous.
That's why I call on Le Boss to play the strongest side available to him and NOT rotate the squad for this game. I'd love Vela and some of the Sheffield United killers to start but points are precious and I believe it will take a record number of points to win the league this season.
We dropped some stupid points last season which cost us the league title. We need to take advantage of the fixture list we have at present and gain some vital points on the board.
It's early in the season so fatigue shouldn't be an issue here, we don't need to rest anyone. I know we have an important game in the Champions League coming up but lets take it a game at a time and not think to far ahead.
I don't want an unexpected result to bite us on the arse at the end of the season. Hopefully it won't come to that and we have the points in the bag by the hour mark. Then it's time to bring on the likes of Vela and co.
Who excites you most???.....
Gooners are raving about the awesome display of the Arsenal last night and rightly so!
It was a Rolls-Royce performance and it does get you very excited about the future when you see the amount of talent coming through at Arsenal.
The way the youngsters play is unbelievable. They are a carbon copy of the way the first team play, the coaches and Le Boss deserve a huge amount of credit for helping these players get to those levels.
It's difficult to pick out any individual player from the side last night, they all played excellent. But who stands out the most for you?
I know it's easy to say after the fella got a hat-trick but I can't stop thinking about how good Carlos Vela will be.
What a finisher the guy is! He reminds me of Eduardo or Robbie Fowler in his pomp when in front of goal. He is as cool as ice and I'd back him to score when he has a chance every time.
It's not just his finishing that impresses me. He grafts and is so good with the ball at his feet. It's no wonder that Le Boss waited three years for him.
Trust me, Carlos Vela will be one of the best players in the world sooner rather than later. Under Wenger's guidence he has the world at his feet.
Being Mexican he will be as tough as old boots because they usually are from there! So the bully boys won't kick him out of Arsenal and England.
We have plenty to smile about but who excites you the most and why?
Kevin Nolan is a mug and Kevin Davies is a thug!!!
I would say that I cant believe the comments made by Kevin Nolan but unfortunately it really doesn't surprise me.
The player is a mug and to tell a team mate to give a fellow professional a kick is a fucking liberty.
He tries to redeem himself and say that football is a contact sport, well I agree with that but football isn't a sport where you deliberately go around kicking people. If that's what Nolan wants his team mates to do then I suggest they all take up kick-boxing. The jumped up prick.
Players like Nolan are fucking idiots and its this idiotic muggy mentality that cause injury's. It's no wonder no one likes the English with dickheads like Nolan playing football. We don't need it.
As for the other Muppet, Kevin Davies, he's been doing it for years. He doesn't just put it about, I'm not buying that. He's a thug who has been doing tackles like that for a long time. Some of his tackles could result in him being arrested for GBH.
It's not a "poor Arsenal" attitude I have here. I'm just pissed off that sides resort to such tactics to stop Arsenal playing. If they were just physical then I'd have no beef but the fact is teams DO try to injure Arsenal players.
I fully expect Nolan to be fined or banned for his comments.
Djourou will be Gallas' replacement......
Johan Djourou has signed a new long-term contract at Arsenal and I believe that this is fantastic news for us.
I really rate Djourou and believe that he can go on and establish himself as an Arsenal regular in the future.
I can see him and Toure forming a formidable partnership in the heart of Arsenal's defence. I believe this partnership will flourish into one of the best.
Djourou has it all and I honestly think he can develop into one of the best defenders in the world. The ability is there, he just needs to believe it, gain confidence and work hard.
I still see Gallas as one of the best defenders in the world (a lot of Gooners may not agree with me there!) and I think that he can pass on advice to Johan.
I imagine that Gallas may probably only be at Arsenal for another year or two. I cant see him finishing his career at the club, so this will be perfect timing for Djourou to step into the side.
Keep it Goonerish......
We need this man back.....MARTIN KEOWN....
It was a fantastic result yesterday. We played some brilliant football and even some Spuds I know were forced to admit that Arsenal are looking good.
I couldn't resist telling them though that Spurs are the STRONGEST team in the league by far. After all, they are holding up 19 other clubs!!!
Something played on my mind despite another superb performance by Arsenal. It's our organisation at set-pieces and defending in general.
We are prone to sloppy defending at set-pieces. We have conceded only THREE goals this season in competitive action. But all have come from set-pieces.
Granted, one was a penalty but the other two goals we've conceded have come from corners. We have improved slightly in our open play defending but from set-pieces we are still vulnerable.
This does worry me. Sides like Chelsea will be aware of this and will attack Arsenal from this area. We seem to struggle to defend corners and free-kicks and this needs improving.
I've heard that Le Boss doesn't empathise a lot of work on defensive routine in training. Whether this is true or not I don't know. I do know that Wenger puts a lot of attention to detail in his preparation for games, but for me defending is something we can improve on, a lot.
A couple of years ago Le Boss brought Martin Keown in help with this situation. For me, Keown is absolutely perfect for this role. He has respect and the know-how to improve this side of Arsenal.
The man knows the club and is a person that Le Boss can relate too and trust in the role. He achieved great things at Arsenal and nobody could argue the fact he knows what he is doing.
Martin Keown is an Arsenal hero and would probably jump at the chance of working with such a talented group of players.
I reckon that we need Martin Keown back and that he would help improve the way we defend by ten-fold. Bring him back as a defensive coach Arsene!
The darker, nuttier, crazier side of Arsene Wenger!!.......
If Bolton beat Arsenal today then they had better hire a carpenter.
Bolton player Fabrice Muamba, formerly of Arsenal, said that when Arsenal were knocked out of the FA Cup by Bolton two and a half years ago Le Boss went mental and smashed down the dressing room door!
After reading that I reckon that Le Boss could take on hard man Roy Shaw in a fight. (Roy Shaw famously wrecked a cell door while in prison) They are the only two people I've heard achieve this so Frank Warren get it on!!!
This is not the first time I've heard that Wenger has lost it. Remember when Manchester United ended our unbeaten 49 game record? The buffet battle erupted soon after and Fergie claims that Arsene came up to him in a boxers pose before being saved by Cesc Fabregas lobbing pizza at him!
I would loved to have been a fly on the wall there. Seeing Wenger frame up to Fergie, Fergie pleading with Arsene to leave him alone and then pizza exploding over his face and new suit! How funny is that?
Remember the Alan Pardew touchline incident when West Ham scored a late winner a couple of years ago? I seriously thought that Wenger was going to deck him. If the cameras weren't focusing on the situation then Pardew would have been knocked out. No question.
Le Boss has a calm exterior but beneath that is a raging bull with a huge determination to win. And I wouldn't want him any other way.
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Theo should get on the phone to mentor Thierry.............
Watching Theo get kicked about like a rag-doll last night was hard on the eyes.
It looked like a school bully picking on the younger kid but Theo will have to be prepared to face this sort of punishment in most games now.
He is a marked man. His hat-trick for England will have raised his profile and teams realise to stop him they may have to kick him. It could be the only way.
Theo will have to work out the answers to this punishment. He is smart enough but he will also need protection from the ref's as well.
It wont easy for Theo to have lumps kicked out of him but he must learn to deal with it. It wont be easy.
Maybe he should get on the phone to his mentor Thierry Henry. I'm sure he took the rough stuff early in his career. And let's be honest, who around has the explosive pace of Theo?
Only Henry DID have so Theo could learn a lot from how Thierry dealt with it. I'm sure Titi being the legend that he is would be happy to help.
Yayawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnn!!.......
I could have joined Arsenal, Wenger begged me, my brother pleaded with me, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH! Frankly Yaya I don't care anymore.
I would have loved Le Boss to have signed you in the summer, lord knows I've spoke about it on my blog more than enough times!
But the reality is the signing never happened and probably never will happen.
I know why you have revealed that you snubbed Arsenal. It's because you are warming the bench at Barca and you want to show your loyalty to the club. You want to play. Clever really.
But in fairness I wont knock a loyal player, there aren't enough of those about and you have to admire Yaya. He certainly has a great attitude and won't give in easily at Barca.
Chicken Kiev??!! We were like TURKEY TWIZZLERS!!.....
Jamie Oliver would not have been happy with Arsenal tonight in Kiev as we resembled his least favourite food.
It was far from vintage Arsenal tonight and you have to say based on the performance a point from the game was a good one.
Arsenal could have had the game wrapped up though in the first half and missed some clear cut chances that really cost us. Kiev could have been buried at half-time and were just content to go in the half way mark level.
Fair play to Dynamo Kiev, they played well and deserved a share of the spoils. They stifled us and grew more in confidence as the game went on.
We seemed to be in first gear for long periods of the game and could have really stepped up the pace to take the game to Kiev.
I have to point out we looked solid when Song was on the pitch. When he came off the game opened up and it was Kiev who seemed the more dangerous side.
Kiev were obvious to Theo's danger. The lad was doubled up on every occasion he had the ball and was scythed down whenever he broke free. This was a good lesson for Theo. Teams will be more aware of him now than ever and it's up to him to figure out how to deal with it.
Cesc Fabregas was unusually quiet for long parts of the game. He had his usual work-rate but was unable to influence the match. He wont be happy with his performance but he can't perform miracles every time his steps onto the pitch.
Le Boss said a point would be a good result. Judging by the performance I'd agree. It isn't a disaster and we didn't lose face (as the commentators tried to say)
There are no mug teams in the Champions League (except Chelsea and Manchester United) so a point away to ANYONE is a good one.
The sides in the Champions League are there for a reason. They are the BEST sides in their countries so every game is difficult.
We have five games remaining, three are at home. Usually ten points get you through the group. I'm quietly confident we will make it.
Nicklas Bendtner upsets Steve Bruce!.....
Nicklas Bendtner has upset Wigan boss Steve Bruce.
Bendtner played under Bruce on loan to Birmingham in the 2006-07 season.
Bendtner helped the Brummies to promotion scoring plenty of goals. But it seems that Nicklas wasn't only scoring goals. It seems that he was also scoring with Bruce's daughter Amy!
Bendtner has now finished with Amy and by all accounts this ruined Bruce's recent Marbella holiday.
Lets hope Steve Bruce doesn't ask Adebayor to finish off what he started at Shite Hart Lane!
My condolence's to Arsene Wenger......
I send my condolence's to Arsene Wenger after reading that he attended his father's funeral yesterday.
One thing for certain is Mr Wenger senior would have been a very proud father to Arsene.
Thought's go out to Arsene and his family....
Does Djourou deserve a run in the side?........
The Gallas/Toure partnership has always been a talking point with Gooners.
On paper the pair look very strong together but the reality is the partnership has flaws and has been exposed many a time.
The pair are very similar players. I think it's obvious that both play better and look more comfortable alongside a dominant centre back instead of each other.
When Gallas was at Chelsea he had the dominating John Terry as his partner and Kolo flourished with Sol Campbell patrolling with him at the back.
Djourou can be that dominating defender for Arsenal. He has the ability and the size to do so. It's fair to say that when Djourou played in place of the injured Toure Arsenal looked more solid.
I personally felt that when Djourou played he looked one of our better players and deserved to kept in the side. The return of Toure demoted Djourou and I felt it was unfair.
Maybe that's why Arsenal can be complacent at times. There is no competition for places, certain players know that they will be picked if fit. Who knows?
We looked shaky at the back on Saturday despite a 4-0 win. To win the league we need to be more solid.
I think Djourou deserves a run in the side. But the question is who makes way? It's a tough shout between Gallas and Toure but I'd side with Gallas/Djourou being the partnership just based on what I saw in the earlier games.
I love Toure so don't think this a personal attack on him. It's just an opinion of mine.
Lets not go over the top with Theo.........
Theo Walcott has been praised to the high heavens over the past few days-and rightly so.
His performances for England have a nation bubbling and on Saturday he looked good at Blackburn.
I'm sorry to be a damp squid and burst the bubble but I think we need to calm down a little and get things into perspective.
The England supporters will no doubt expect that type of performance from Theo all the time he pulls on an England shirt. That is impossible.
The lad is 19 and to be hailed as England's messiah is very dangerous indeed. He is still learning the game and will be inconsistent.
He has shown what he can do, and it borders on genius, but let's remember not to put anymore pressure on his young shoulders.
Theo is a level-headed guy and I'm sure the euphoria around him at the moment wont affect him. But I worry if he has a poor game in his next England outing the fickle English fans will get on his back. We are after all, notorious for it!
Thats where we Gooners come in. Lets not get carried away by the Theo hype. We know how good he is already.
Lets support him through the good and bad times, because (although I hate too say it) the England faithful won't.
We have had a taste of Theo's potential and he is beginning to show it on a more regular basis. But let's support him (as we do) and not go over the top.
And I dont blame you either Mr Wenger!!...........
Le Boss has said that he would walk away if his authority was undermined by a director of football. And I can't say I blame him either.
It makes sense for the manager to run the football side of things at a club and I include transfer targets in that.
I could never quite get my head around a director of football buying the players and expecting the manager to include them in the squad.
How can a manager plan for the future when someone else is involved? It can't work and causes massive conflicts.
West Ham and Newcastle are proving the idea doesn't work and who in their right mind would want to manage either of those clubs knowing you are constantly being over-ruled?
Is now the time to forgive and forget Ade's summer antics?...........
If you go through my previous articles then you will see how much Ade pissed me off over the summer.
I was very disappointed by his flirting with Barcelona and AC Milan and I let it be known here on my blog.
Before his summer antics I defended him when others were knocking him. It seemed a personal insult to me when he outrageously believed his own hype, and possibly even believed that he was bigger than Arsenal.
If I felt that way (and I'm only a fan!) then only god knows how Le Boss felt. Arsene Wenger has nurtured Ade into the player he is today and it was almost thrown back into his face with Ade's behaviour.
Le Boss has forgiven Ade and given him the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps I'm less forgiving than Le Boss but I'm still not 100% behind our Togo striker.
They say times a healer and Ade can only rebuild bridges with Gooners by scoring goals and helping Arsenal to success.
I want to forgive Ade fully but I'm a stubborn git at times and I can't give my full support to Ade yet. A hat-trick of course helps warm me to him but it will take a while for me to heat up all the way.
I believe he can become world-class under Wenger but he needs to prove that he is 100% committed to the Arsenal cause and not just after a pound note.
I think the crucial time for me is if he has another great season like last year. Next summer will he react the same as this one? Will he demand more money? Or will he just be happy that he has proved himself again?
I want to forgive Ade and I hope I will in time but I'm not convinced yet despite his hat-trick.
Could this man be Arsenal's next manager?....
Slaven Bilic anyone???.....
It's hard to say it but one day Le Boss will not be Arsenal manager anymore. I feel that this contract Le Boss is on will be his last at Arsenal.
I think it runs out in 2011 so we have a couple of years left from Arsene Wenger at the club (in my personal opinion)
Life will be very strange without Arsene Wenger and the hole he will leave behind will be massive. It will need a special type of person to fill the void and I believe that man could be Slaven Bilic.
I know he has no ties with Arsenal but in my eye's the Croatian is perfect for the job. I really rate and like the fella.
His Croatia team play good football and we Gooners have become accustomed to a side pretty on the eye. Bilic will provide this.
He is very good with the media and always conducts himself very well. He was humble in defeat to England in his post match interview and comes across as a very straight talking guy.
I'm sure Le Boss will have a lot of input into his successor at Arsenal. And I'm sure that he would give Bilic the thumbs up. I know Eduardo would! He and Bilic have a father and son relationship.
Nobody has a bad word to say about the guy and I honestly reckon that he is going to be a world-class manager.
This subject is not something that I like to think about but it's reality. One day Le Boss will be gone and he will leave a huge legacy.
The club will be in great shape and Arsenal will need a man brave enough and good enough to continue Arsene Wenger's legendary work.
When the time comes that man for me is Slaven Bilic. Slaven Bilic is a winner.
TTTHHHHHHEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Congratulations Theo, hat-trick hero.
You've done England proud, your family proud, Arsenal and Gooners proud but most of all, you've done yourself proud.........
Does Le Boss even speak Italian?.......
Le Boss speaks several languages in fluent tongue but if reports in Italy are to go by then he better get Italian added to his forte!
Apparently AC Milan are lining up Arsene Wenger as a potential replacement for boss Carlo Ancelotti after yet another poor start to the Serie A season for the Rossoneri.
Maybe there IS more to this story. Are Flamini and Senderos part of Milan's evil plan and have they conspired to join the club knowing that Le Boss will follow suit at the end of the season?
Or is it just an absolute pile of shit made up from the Italian press to pass the boredom of international week?
I'll let you decide, but I reckon that Frank Rijkaard is a shoe in for the job anyway.
Actually, I agree with Jamie Carragher..........
I've read the comments during the week of Jamie Carragher from his upcoming autobiography and I have to say that I agree with him on a certain subject.
He writes that losing with Liverpool would always hurt him more than losing with England......
He has taken some flak for this but let me explain why I agree with him over this quite sensitive subject.
Growing up I dreamed of, like many others, being a professional footballer. But I didn't want to be just any pro-footballer, I wanted to play for Arsenal.
I played for Millwall and Wimbledon at youth level but I really really wanted Arsenal to scout me so I could play for my dream club.
Being a Gooner it would have meant the world to me to have had the chance to wear the Arsenal shirt in front of my fellow Gooners.
Jamie Carragher has achieved his dream. He has played for his dream club, Liverpool, but ALSO has played for his country, England.
I've never had the chance to play pro-football but I can understand where Carragher is coming from. He has supported Liverpool his whole life so he must feel the same gut-wrenching pain we Gooners do whenever our respective clubs suffer a defeat.
Don't get me wrong, I would be proud to pull on the England shirt but not as proud as every time I pulled on the red and white of Arsenal.
I love Arsenal more than England and I'm not afraid to admit that seeing an Arsenal defeat hurts a lot more than seeing an England loss.
Carragher feels the same about Liverpool as we Gooners do about Arsenal. The only difference is he has had the pleasure of playing for a club that he loves and supports.
Imagine that opportunity, playing for Arsenal AND England. It would be a dream come true but I know that while I would be giving my all in the England shirt a defeat wouldn't hurt as much as one would whilst wearing an Arsenal shirt.
How many Tottenham players played for England last night?
Listen to Spuds and they will tell you they pride themselves on having an English spine and are forever goading Gooners with their foreign legion jibes.
Well, how many Spurs players were playing for England last night? NONE!
That's right, NONE! A club who have sooooooooo much English talent and not one can get into the England team.
Capello has sussed you Spuds right out. He knows that the English players at your club are really two-bob, especially that Gooner reject Bentley.
Fabio Capello realises that England need decent players, that's why Theo started and not your £17m superstar Bentley.
I really hope that Mr Capello sticks to his anti-Spud guns. Who can forget the then-Tottenham keeper Paul Robinson letting down the nation the last time we played in Croatia?
A message to you Fabio, keep out the Spuds, keep in the Gooner and England will go far.
Well done Theo!
CAN EBOUE EVER SHAKE OFF THE BOO-BOYS?......
There is no doubt that Emmanuel Eboue isn't the most popular of Arsenal players amongst Gooners.
He doesn't endear himself to the Gooner faithful with his sometimes infuriating antics. The play-acting and diving has to stop before he can begin to build bridges with the Arsenal crowd.
However, speak to members of the Arsenal squad and they absolutely love the bloke and say that he is great for team morale.
Is Eboue a bad player? I don't think so. I think sometimes we are so wrapped up in the things he does bad we forget about the good things he can produce.
I feel Eboue is a competent player. I think his best position is at right-back but lets face facts, Sagna is one of the best right-backs in the world and isn't going to be dislodged any time soon. I could think of a lot worse cover for Sagna than Eboue though.
We have to cut Eboue a bit of slack. Last season was his first in midfield and it will take time for him to adapt there. However I don't feel that the middle of the park is a place for him to be!
I reckon Eboue COULD shake off the boo-boys and regain some support from Gooners if he cut out the play-acting and diving.
If he committed himself 100% to the Arsenal cause and showed that he willing to change his ways and stop the silly shit that he does then he may begin to get some affection from us.
Only Eboue can achieve this. He needs to realise we don't like his antics and it's time for him to grow up.
If he wants to endear himself to us then he knows what he has to do. Its up to him to shake off the boo-boys and show how good he can really be.
I wish David Dein could be back on the scene......
The currently vacated post of COE at Arsenal is set to be filled and I cant help but wish that it was David Dein who was set to be appointed.
I know it is virtually impossible now for Dein to be appointed after he sold his shares and had a pretty big bust up with the board but there is no mistaking the fact that the man is Arsenal through and through.
The situation is now quite laughable. The man Dein linked up with, Stan Kronke, is now accepted at Arsenal and Dein is still an outcast with the next fellow he linked up with, the Russian geezer.
Dein and Le Boss are still great friends so it would make sense for them to link up again. After all, they worked very well together in the past and there is no doubt Le Boss needs the help. He has taken a lot on since Dein's departure.
I just wish that Dein and the board could put aside their differences, after all, they all want whats best for Arsenal don't they?
I know it wont happen but its something I wish could happen.
Keep it Goonerish........
Arsenal is in our blood........
My blood bleeds red and white, the same as the next Gooner's. I love the club and always will through the good times and the bad. True, I've found it hard to accept that the squad hasn't been strengthened but that is the situation and I'm gonna have to deal with it.
I want the club to do well so it deserves my support. I admit that sometimes things can be testing but I'm glad that I'm a Gooner.
Le Boss can be a pain in the arse but he is our manager and although I may not agree with everything that he does, I know he has Arsenal Football Club's best interests at heart. He has done great things for us and I'm sure he will do great things again. I wouldn't want another man in charge.
We needed a man in the middle of the park, it hasn't happened. It's time for someone to shine, just like Flamini did twelve months ago. Someone like Song or Denilson, maybe Diaby. I personally feel that Song is the man to step up and make the role his own, I think he deserves that chance.
We are lucky to support such a great club and the club are lucky to have such great support. Not many supporters would give a manager this much time without a trophy, not from the big four anyway. Le Boss has earned our respect and we trust he will deliver. That's why we wait so patiently.
And lets be honest, we have been patient...........
We have waited since 2005, it has been testing but we still need to have faith. This squad although light in numbers is heavy in talent. It's hard but its time to believe that this set of players can achieve the big things we want. Lets get behind them. They need us.
We have a great stadium, play great football and have a very talented group of players. Lets think of the positives and believe that we can have a great season against the odds. Victory this season will be the sweetest.
Arsene Wenger is one of the greatest managers in the world. If he quit Arsenal tomorrow then believe me every top club would want him. We have him, and should be grateful for that. But at the same time he should be grateful for having such wonderful support from us. We have given him the time to build and have shown great understanding.
Lets get behind the club now. We cant change the past but we can look to a good future. Arsenal is in our blood and I'm happy that it is.
Everyone owes someone something.......
I must say that I'm gutted that Le Boss hasn't added to the squad but I'm hardly surprised by it. My old man said at about 6pm last night that Mr Wenger wouldn't sign anyone and although I kinda believed him I still had that hope that something would happen.
Hope is the main word here. I really "hoped" we would sign someone but we didn't. I felt somewhat muted at around 12:15am when it began to sink in that we wouldn't actually be signing anybody.
So what now then? I suppose we must just get on with things, but thats hard. I now sort of feel like Le Boss owes us Gooners something. We had the hope of a signing taken away after some good positive vibes coming from Arsene. So I feel that Le Boss owes us a trophy.
He has made his bed and its his head on the chopping block. He believes that the squad he has at his disposal is good enough so at the end of the season if we are again unsuccessful then he must take the most of the blame.
Now Le Boss has shown his faith in the current squad the players owe Arsene Wenger. He believes that they are good enough and they need to repay the faith shown in them. He has chosen to go into the season with this squad so they need to prove Le Boss right.
We Gooners owe nothing. We have waited and been patient for long enough. I actually believe we have been superb to Le Boss and Arsenal over the last few seasons. We haven't really grumbled until recently.
Could you imagine the unrest at Manchester United or Chelsea if they had gone this long without a trophy? The managers head would be called for. We Gooners respect what Le Boss has done for Arsenal but now it's time to deliver.
Arsenal to steal Berbatov?!
I was listening to TalkShite on the way home from work and a London cabbie text in a transfer rumour. According to this cabbie he was at Bethnal Green and he picked up a customer known to Gooners as the Gunnersaurus.
The Gunnersaurus has inside information and believes that Arsenal have stumped Manchester United and Manchester City to the Bulgarians signature. Whether this is true or not I have no idea.................Erm...............anyway moving on.
There are seven hours to go and at present Arsenal have no players added to the squad. Le Boss has in the past signed players at the last moment on dead-line day so expect a long night ahead.
I'm beginning to get quite excited at the prospect of a signing. I hope Mr Wenger does add to the squad. I really do believe that if we sign a central midfielder we will have a very strong season.
The squad is so talented, that player in the midfield will clinch it for me. And as I've said before, it's better late than never!
Anyway, here's hoping we get that player. Get ready for a nail biting evening my fellow Gooners!
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