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Re: Sarah Palin
Post by lennygoran » Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:58 am
( My own view isn't that extreme (I am okay with legal abortion until the fetus is viable and under certain extreme situations after viability has been reached)
Exactly my feeling-a friend of mine said that even at 8 months 29 days it was the womans's decision to make-I just canakt buy that with all the great scientific strides we're making at keeping beings alive. Len from washington dc
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Post by Agnes Selby » Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:37 pm
piston wrote:
Agnes Selby wrote:
Daisy wrote:
piston wrote: And to reply to the conservative women solidarity statement above, Palin has positioned herself to be the symbolic leader of the Tea Party. Everybody admits that much. Is this person (no gender reference) intelligent? No. Does this person (no gender reference) offer realistic solutions (other than "Let's shut it down!!! Let's shut it all down!!!). No. Does this person (no gender reference) serves as an intellectual role model for the new generation of Americans? An unqualified "NO."
Assessing a person's capacity to lead does not have to be assessed in gender terms. This "person" is posturing for leadership and ain't my concept of a leader.
Twist and turn as much as you want....
No twisting or turning. She's not even my possible candidate of choice. However, why do Liberals - especially Liberal women, go after public conservative women so viciously? Got jealousy issues? She's pretty, she's successful...hey, why not? High school mean girls never do grow up.
You are right, the bitching continues. It will be an interesting two years to follow
from a distance. The constant obsession with elections amazes me and what nastiness
it brings out in people. I would like to mention here that our State elections are
in March. I am yet to hear a single word about it from either Labor or Liberals. I must
admit, I am eternally grateful for the silence. About 4 - 6 weeks is plenty to listen
to "promises"! Australians are certainly not as passionate about their candidates
as are Americans. Anyone electioneering in Germany to be our Prime Minister
would become a joke in Australia.
I don't know what to think about your positioning yourself on such high moral grounds, Agnes. I do recall that you had nothing nice to say about Mr. Gore when he visited your country. The comments were rather vitriolic.
I will persist with the notion that people here are experts in playing the double standards game.
Mr. Gore came to Australia with one purpuse only. To make MONEY. He arrived
in his own plane with his flunkies early one morning. A dozen limos awaited
him at the airport and each flunky travelled to the hotel in his own limo.
Then Mr. Gore told Australians to stop poluting the world
and use bicycles to go to work. There were other such lectures and after a
short time in Australia, Mr. Gore and his retinue left for the airport in limos,
one per man, and boarded his private plane back to the US.
Do you think he deserved to be commended?
Agnes.
Cyril Ignatius
Post by Cyril Ignatius » Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:56 pm
piston wrote: The ultimate irony, for me, is how the party that's been so consistently the mouthpiece for the most powerful and the most wealthy --that fraction of one percent which owns or controls such a vast proportion of this country's assets-- successfully projects itself as the party of the people, of the mass of the population. There's a parallel here with the way southern politicians engaged in Black American demonization to rally the white populace behind them.
There's no doubt about it, it's not only theater, it's deception on a national scale.
What I worry about is that some of those who are most successful in staging this masquarade might actually believe in their own deception. Palin qualifies.
Which part are you talking about Piston? I presume you are talking about the Democrats; the last time we checked the data, they had far more millionaires that the Republicans. And they outspent Republicans in most recent elections. And when you talk about the parrallels between today and the Jim Crow era, once again, I presume you are talking about the Democratic Party, for they were the keeper of the Jim Crow flame. And today, it is the Democrats who still insist that we see ourselves through the prism of race, ethnicity and social class, rather than as fellow Americans or fellow Christians.
Post by piston » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:22 pm
I am talking about a political platform which is based, in toto, on what the most fortunate of this country want to have as a government. The party is irrelevant; the platform is. That southern Democrat used to be the ones manipulating the less well educated Caucasian electorate to achieve electoral success merely serves to illustrate a current phenomenon far more noticeable on the Republican side today.
Incidentally, Cyril Ignatius, a Maine businessman, Jim Wellehan, struck a discordant chord to all this Tea Party populistic rhetoric serving the interests of the wealthiest one or two percent of society, this week, by rejecting an extension of tax cuts for the higher stratum of society in order to redistribute wealth and "prime the pump" of consumer spending -- the old FDR economic philosophy. His particular position is both moral (in the sense of the immoral nature of privileging one citizen to the detriment of nine others) and pragmatic: he wants people to buy his boots and shoes! How many boots and shoes can 0.5 percent of the population purchase anyway?!!
http://www.sunjournal.com/state/story/943978
In the eyes of those lovers of perfection, a work is never finished—a word that for them has no sense—but abandoned....(Paul Valéry)
piston wrote: I am talking about a political platform which is based, in toto, on what the most fortunate of this country want to have as a government. The party is irrelevant; the platform is. That southern Democrat used to be the ones manipulating the less well educated Caucasian electorate to achieve electoral success merely serves to illustrate a current phenomenon far more noticeable on the Republican side today.
If purchasing boots for themselves was the main concern of that upper 1% or so, as in a medieval or 3rd World subsistance economy, your comment would make more sense, Piston. In a developed capitalist system, what that 1% has is the capital that actually makes the jobs happen and the capital that plays a critical role in economic expansion. The sad reality is, when you soak the rich in taxes, you destroy jobs for the poor. We need to return to a lower level of taxation; when taxation gets beyond a certain point, the rich start engaging in tax-avoidance behavior. The poor fare better when a society keeps taxes simple and at a basic level, and we are way beyond that at this point. The poor - and everyone else - fare better when we focus on creating the conditions for the opportunity society, and when we allow God, rather than the State, be the larger source of purpose.
That is precisely the sales pitch of the wealthiest stratum of society, has always been, including in the 1930s. Problem is, of course, that the decision of how much and where to invest is absolutely critical to the theorem. The wealthy can squander instead of investing if they feel that the climate is not a good one for investment. They can also invest in such ways that bring absolutely no benefit, zero, to American citizens, such as in China or Indonesia.
Hence the dilemma of putting all trust on a decision that might not yield any fruit for the citizenry, none whatsoever!
It is a quantum leap of faith. What is represented by the Republicans as an automatic chain reaction is not in the least bit proven, demonstrated, factual.
That is the dillemma of freedom. And a practical reminder that if you want a society with plentyful jobs and a robust economy, you also need to have an environment conducive to entrepreneurs. Moreover, you need to be friendly to small busines, for they are central to economic grwoth and job creation. Government bureaucrats can't create the kind of jobs that build a large and vital middle class. State planners are an anethema to real world opportunity for the poor.
Did you ever notice how incredibly few people in the Obama Administration ever had a real job? Did you ever notice how far away these people are from the ideas conducive to economic growth? The poor have no hope as long as these people are in power.
piston wrote: That is precisely the sales pitch of the wealthiest stratum of society, has always been, including in the 1930s. Problem is, of course, that the decision of how much and where to invest is absolutely critical to the theorem. The wealthy can squander instead of investing if they feel that the climate is not a good one for investment. They can also invest in such ways that bring absolutely no benefit, zero, to American citizens, such as in China or Indonesia.
I'm noticing that our models and theories are national ones, not global ones.
There's a crisis in Europe right now (not an invitation for US bashing of Europeans). Their original logic for a eurozone is being severely tested by Greece, Portugal and Ireland. Will "investors" in Germany,France, etc., rescue their poor brothers? If they don't, what will happen to that recently engineered eurozone?
There's a crisis in this very country where everybody is talking about "JOBS" but letting investors take their capital wherever it's going to be profitable, however detrimental the consequences for our nation (Now, that's a leap of faith!!!).
The old models and theories are outdated. Time to adapt.
Part of the moral and econimically rational response to problems that become international in scale is the protection of national sovereignty. We don't take our primary cues from European Statists, well until somewhat more recently that is.
piston wrote: I'm noticing that our models and theories are national ones, not global ones.
I'm telling you, Cyril, what is the virtue of closing a shirt factory in the "black", in this sovereign nation of ours, to make more money from the same outfit in Asia? Please answer!
National sovereinty doesn't mean ignoring or shutting out the world economy. It is about responding to that economy as you see fit. The best way the United States can deal with the world economy, and our weakening position, is to create the conditions under which business can grow and flourish. It basically means doing most things quite different from what the current Administration is doing. And to return to the essential issue of this thread; for all of Obama's alleged intelligence and all of Palin's alleged stupidity, why does she have so much better a grasp than he does of the issues our nation faces?
piston wrote: I'm telling you, Cyril, what is the virtue of closing a shirt factory in the "black", in this sovereign nation of ours, to make more money from the same outfit in Asia? Please answer!
I beg to disagree. There will always be cheaper labor somewhere, away from this nation. If the whole point of the system we live in is to find the point of least resistance (in this era of extraordinary environmental costs right around the corner), then I cannot support such an irresponsible system. What this "chick" from NYC did when she closed down Hathaway in Waterville, ME, a company in the black, to make more profits in the Third World, was socially irresponsible. The Catholic Church said as much a century ago! Greed. Are we all about greed? Is that the essence of what we are?
Forget it! I'm not in.
So who should decide what this person does with their business? The government? Where will it stop?
piston wrote: I beg to disagree. There will always be cheaper labor somewhere, away from this nation. If the whole point of the system we live in is to find the point of least resistance (in this era of extraordinary environmental costs right around the corner), then I cannot support such an irresponsible system. What this "chick" from NYC did when she closed down Hathaway in Waterville, ME, a company in the black, to make more profits in the Third World, was socially irresponsible. The Catholic Church said as much a century ago! Greed. Are we all about greed? Is that the essence of what we are?
Well, given the fact that a business is a collective outcome and an individual entity (or tends to be associated with an individual) that, too, is a dilemma. But if you are all about individual freedoms, in the old "Liberal Order" sense of the concept, sure, the owner is the sole determinant. And the owner can take money derived from the fruit of many people's activities and do what he (mostly he) ever wants to do. In this sense, the old "Liberal Order" is not conducive to a solid nation. It killed Great Britain, where it originated! It'll probably kill the USA the same way. Place the individual always ahead of any other interests and, eventually, it will be most damageable to a sovereign nation. That's the problem with "free trade" ideologues and "global" engineers: they're thinking about themselves, not communities, states, and nation.
We're faced with the ultimate contradiction of the very worldview we've bred: should the individual prevail, at all costs, even if it means the demise of the nation?
Of course not. The cult of the individual can be very destructive.
What killed Great Britain was a mixture of the rising power of America and many other economic powers along with an internal cultural collapse. Most great civilizations at the height of their power begin to lose the norms and values that drove them to success. Generally, these great civilizations begin battling a growing cultural decadence from within. Britain has gone decadent with a vengeance. I fear we in America are headed the same way.
piston wrote: Well, given the fact that a business is a collective outcome and an individual entity (or tends to be associated with an individual) that, too, is a dilemma. But if you are all about individual freedoms, in the old "Liberal Order" sense of the concept, sure, the owner is the sole determinant. And the owner can take money derived from the fruit of many people's activities and do what he (mostly he) ever wants to do. In this sense, the old "Liberal Order" is not conducive to a solid nation. It killed Great Britain, where it originated! It'll probably kill the USA the same way. Place the individual always ahead of any other interests and, eventually, it will be most damageable to a sovereign nation. That's the problem with "free trade" ideologues and "global" engineers: they're thinking about themselves, not communities, states, and nation.
Well, would you look at that! You and I have just converged!
Agreed. There surely exists a multiplicity of interpretations with regard to the source of decadence but I'm with you: we have been decaying.
Nevertheless, I still can't swallow the fact that a perfectly viable company in the very home town of our forthcoming Tea Party governor got shut down because greater benefits could be had by moving it outside of this country.
To me, that's an unswallowable pill.
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Post by karlhenning » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:04 pm
Please, God, let Sarah Palin run in 2012.
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Post by Cyril Ignatius » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:31 pm
karlhenning wrote: Please, God, let Sarah Palin run in 2012.
She's a good, smart lady. But she should not run for President. To run for the President, win, and have enough firepower to deal effectively with a hostile press and a hostile ruling class the whole way through requires an extraordinary verbal facility and a very fast, strong intellect. While portraits of Palin as stupid reflect the ingrained ideological needs of the people doing such portraits, it's also the case that Palin doesn't have the facility that Reagan had in this regards. She will best serve as the spiritual leader of the Tea Party movement. She IS as intelligent or more so than most of those who mindlessly pass the "Palin is stupid" nonsense, but to lead the kind of revolution that must be had, she is not the one.
Who is that someone? Interesting question. No, it's not Huckabee or anyone like that. For the sake of our nation, and the world we leave our children, I hope that someone will emerge sooner rather than later.
Post by Barry » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:37 pm
Cyril Ignatius wrote:
Someone should pump subliminal messages about the need to run for President into General Petraeus' room every night while he sleeps.
"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea; but if this is tea, please bring me some coffee." - Abraham Lincoln
"Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed." - Winston Churchill
"Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement." - Ronald Reagan
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pbp0hur ... re=related
Barry wrote:
WHY?? What would he do?
Post by karlhenning » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:47 pm
She's a good, smart lady.
Oh, she's got a certain sort of smarts, no argument there. It is more than I could answer to, to judge whether she be good. Many indications that she is calculatedly cynical; and the recent Alaskan senate-seat tussle was apparently vindictive on her part. But her strongest supporters are certainly very forgiving. Of her, at any rate.
Well ... it was a joke. He's made it very clear he's not running and I take him at his word.
I'd rather have him running our foreign policy and dealing with the leadership of Russia, China, Iran, etc. than Obama though if given a choice. And while we don't know what his domestic policies would be, I can't picture them making the non-liberal population of the country more unhappy than Obama's have.
As far as leadership qualities, he'd probably be tough to top.
A man can dream, can't he?
karlhenning wrote:
There's a history to this. Palin won the Governor's seat and went on to govern in a way that put her up against the good-old boy network inside the Alaskan republican Party. The Senate seat was one (as ballot count trends are going) by a women who is an immediate product of that old guard; a real creep, in fact. Any vinegar from Palin against these people has to be tken within that larger context. The new Senate elect is a typical example of a creepy republican.
Cyril Ignatius wrote: There's a history to this. Palin won the Governor's seat and went on to govern in a way that put her up against the good-old boy network inside the Alaskan republican Party. The Senate seat was one (as ballot count trends are going) by a women who is an immediate product of that old guard; a real creep, in fact. Any vinegar from Palin against these people has to be tken within that larger context. The new Senate elect is a typical example of a creepy republican.
That is interesting. Now, to speak purely dispassionately, and with the understanding that this which you say may indeed be the case: Do we have this story through the filter of Sarah Palin?
No. Objective sources indicate that when Palin came head to head with the old boy establishment on big issues such as energy policy, she was very willing to oppose them whaen she thought it was wrong for Alaska. A close look at Sarah Palin reveal's that she means what she says. You may disagree with her, object to her proposed policies, even take issue with her sometimes lousy English; but she is one of the more honest people on the political scene today.
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Post by living_stradivarius » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:26 am
HOW EMBARRASSING
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/ ... ean-allies
During today's Glenn Beck radio show Sarah had to be corrected by the host on the current hostilities between the two Koreas.
CO-HOST: How would you handle a situation like the one that just developed in North Korea? [...]
PALIN: But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies. We're bound to by treaty –
CO-HOST: South Korean.
PALIN: Eh, Yeah. And we're also bound by prudence to stand with our South Korean allies, yes.
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A slip of the tongue? Maybe, maybe not. But in John Heilemann & Mark Halperin's Game Change there was this telling point which suggests otherwise.
She knew nothing. She had to be taken through World War I, World War II, the Cold War, and Palin was not aware there was a difference between North and South Korea. She continued to insist that Iraq was behind 9/11; and when her son was being sent off to Iraq, she couldn't describe who we were fighting.
Of course I can't tell her left boob from her right so she has me there. It would have been somewhat forgivable if she had mixed them up due to the name DPRK.
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Post by Cosima___J » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:12 am
Open season on the Palins
After unloading on mom Sarah, some take aim at daughter BristolAugusta Chronicle Editorial Staff
Friday, Nov. 26, 2010
Politico.com reported Tuesday that Bristol Palin was "causing controversy" on the show Dancing With the Stars .
How do you suppose she did that? With a bad attitude? With a political rant? With a wardrobe malfunction?
Nope. She "caused" controversy by being the daughter of Sarah Palin.
So much so that a Wisconsin man took a shotgun and fired at his television.
It wasn't enough for the left-wing media to assassinate Sarah Palin's character, which they obsessively continue to do on Web sites, on CNN and on late-night talk shows. One writer got a house next to the Palins' to dig up dirt on them. Someone else hacked into their private e-mail account. The idiocy abounds.
It might all be laughable and pitiable if not for the fact that the media, and the liberals they've whipped into a frenzy, have completely demonized this family for no reason. As a result, televisions get shot at and a beautiful young woman is the subject of death threats -- and terroristic packets of talcum powder masquerading as anthrax -- for having done nothing more than dance her heart out.
This is turning out to be one of this country's and the media's great shames of our day.
If conservatives in the media had stirred the public into a similar froth about, say, abortion clinics, the rest of the media would be apoplectic about conservatives creating the usual "climate of hatred and fear" they're always accused of creating, yadda, yadda, yadda. Just who's creating the climate again?
Likewise, if liberals had a Sarah Palin and family to drool over, rather than being demonized and threatened, they'd be the next Kennedy clan. Camelot! Look! Sarah is showing her bare arms -- how elegant! No woman's ever done that!
Oh, wait. The liberal media do have such a family -- in the White House. No demonizing there !
This is way beyond juvenile, for even the most spiteful of children can't do this much harm. Yet the media have long ago decided which kid we should all pick on out on the playground, and they've managed to paint that kid as "causing controversy." Exactly how she "caused" that controversy, no one seems to remember.
It's interesting to note, too, that liberal politicians can declare their children hands-off as far as the media are concerned -- Chelsea Clinton and the Obama children, for instance -- and the media respect that. They're too busy going after the Palin children -- such as when David Letterman crudely joked about an underaged Palin girl getting "knocked up" by one of the Yankees during the family's New York visit. Remember all those Chelsea jokes? Of course not.
It's pretty simple: Conservatives' children are always fair game for the liberal media.
The frenzy that has resulted from all this has revealed just how unhinged the far-left is in this country: Besides the violent, threatening behavior, some liberals even suggested Bristol Palin's dance competitors were voted off the show as part a Tea Party conspiracy. That's just loony. But it's the climate the media have created.
Comedian Jimmy Kimmel joked that eventual Dancing With the Stars winner Jennifer Grey was lucky she wasn't shot by Sarah Palin. Cute. But also quite perverse, considering that it's the Palins who have been targeted.
Once and for all: Whatever you think of her qualifications to be president or vice president -- they weren't much removed from Barack Obama's, and were arguably greater -- she did nothing to cause controversy except present a conservative point of view that a large plurality of the American public agree with (but elites in the media find abhorrent).
Could it be that that's why her daughter was so popular with viewers, to the chagrin of the media?
Along with the fact that people are dog tired of the Palins being demonized?
BTW, I am by no means endorsing Sarah Palin for any office whatsoever.
Post by lennygoran » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:44 am
>The frenzy that has resulted from all this has revealed just how unhinged the far-left is in this country:<
But not everyone criticizing her credentials to be president is a far left person. Regards, Len [moderate Republican]
Len, I don't think the article is criticizing people who challenge Sarah Palin's credentials (credentials? what credentials does this woman have?), but rather the personal attacks on Bristol Palin, who is not running for any office and who has the misfortune of being the daughter of a controversial person.
Post by lennygoran » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:08 am
>but rather the personal attacks on Bristol Palin,<
Saw a newsclip of her dancing on the news or somewhere--I guess it's all over YouTube--well she dances better than me and looks pretty good too! Regards, Len
PS-ah, here it is!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89yiGsd2ARA
Post by karlhenning » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:34 am
Augusta Chronicle Editorial Staff wrote: Politico.com reported Tuesday that Bristol Palin was "causing controversy" on the show Dancing With the Stars .
Isn't that roughly 100% disingenuous? Bristol Palin wouldn't be on Dancing With the Stars, were she not the daughter of Sarah Palin.
So, yes, one expects that when a "star's" "qualification" for a show consists entirely of being the daughter of a political celebrazzi, (a) there is controversy being caused, and (b) really, they're entirely pleased with the controversy, because it extends their 15 minutes of fame.
Post by Cosima___J » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:05 am
Karl, I guess you are not familiar with the show Dancing With The Stars. The contestants are never picked for their dancing ability, but for their celebrity status. And the celebrity status is not the cause of controversy for most of the contestants. Bristol Palin was harassed by some individuals in the media simply because those individuals don't like her mother. As the article pointed out, we have not learned what that supposed "controversy" that Bristol Palin supposedly caused consisted of.
And from the clip Len supplied, it looked like she did a credible job for an amateur --- certainly as well as a lot of the contestants on the show.
Post by living_stradivarius » Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:58 pm
From what I hear the controversy comes from her advancement to the finals over a more qualified dancer.
Post by Agnes Selby » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:18 pm
living_stradivarius wrote: From what I hear the controversy comes from her advancement to the finals over a more qualified dancer.
Well, you know, such decisions are very subjective. Judges often
disagree as does the public. Even in piano competitions, such as the
Cliburn, the favourites seldom win. Perhaps her being Sarah Palin's
daughter may be colouring some peoples' opinions. But she is her
own person and should be allowed to live her own life and not be the
subject of public censure.
Post by Jean » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:37 pm
I love watching ballroom dancing, and Dancing With the Stars is one a a few shows that I watch (and have for all 8 seasons). The controversy regarding Bristol palin is not surprising.
First, her only claim to being a celebrity is that she is a unmarried teenage mother, of a highly visible and controversial politician who is against birth control education. Add to that all the unsavory details about the baby's father. Not what I would call a "star".
Second, although she tried very hard and wasn't awful, she was not nearly as good as a few people (who also worked very hard) who were eliminated before her. That was really very apparent to anyone who follows the program.
There were several political groups that support her mother (and her mother too), who actively campaigned on the internet (through their facebook and twitter accounts) for people to vote for Bristol. The other celebrities did not similarly campaign. As a result, the voting was unprecedetly high in volume.
Popularity is always a factor in these things. However, this is the first season where popular vote totallywent awry of the judge votes.
There is no question of fair or unfair, since all the rules were followed. There is, I take it, a bad taste in some viewrs moths that politics got involved and resulted in undeserved results. I agree there (although I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over it.) It clearly wasn't just a matter of there being a difference of opinion regarding her abilities.
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Post by HoustonDavid » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:44 pm
I can safely say I have never watched DTWS, but my understanding from the many
ladies in my building who DO watch it, is that daughter Bristol Palin has had the lowest
scores from the judges two or even three times running, but a certain block of viewers
have voted for her overwhelmingly, giving her enough total score to advance to the finals,
where she ultimately did lose to a dancer the judges (and the public) thought was better.
The "conspiracy theory" seems to arise out of the fact that her "public" support just might
come from Sarah Palin fans and supporters voting as a large block for an "inferior" dancer
who happens to be her daughter. You simply must understand that it has nothing whatever
to do with my own personal lack of interest in the program. Please!!
"May You be born in interesting (maybe confusing?) times" - Chinese Proverb (or Curse)
Post by Agnes Selby » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:05 pm
What if in the future one of Obama's
daughters joined the program. Would you then say that Obama's
daughter's staying power in the program was only due to votes
given by Blacks and minorities? Palin's daughter's pregnancy and
her private life surely do not come under scrutiny in this
particular dancing program, but then, I have never seen the Australian
version of it and do not know what probing questions about the
contestants are involved. However, I do not think the political
party the contestant's parents belong to would play any part or
cause a controversy.
Post by Jean » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:35 pm
If she weren't a politician's daughter, she would never have been on the show.
Tea party groups were openly and actively campaigning for her.
Is this odd? Very. Is it political? Without a doubt.
If O'bama's daughters were tapped as contestant and then any poltical group campaigned for her to receive votes, it would be no different.
As for Bristol's pregnacy etc., she herself has made it an issue. It is her public identity. She makes a living speaking about it. It is her celebrity. It's just weird because the only reason she has become a celebrity in this way is because she is a politicians daughter. If my daughter were a unmarried teen mother, it is highly improbable she would be asked to be on the program. DWTS has always been, until this point, "stars" that are celebities because they are performers.
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HoustonDavid wrote: I can safely say I have never watched DTWS, but my understanding from the many
Exactly correct and it tainted the intent and fun of watching the program for, apparently, many viewers. Although it does amaze me how excited people get about these things. Although, I've never understood getting all excited about sporting events either.
Post by lennygoran » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:33 am
>Although, I've never understood getting all excited about sporting events either.<
Yeah but what about World Wrestling Entertainment--you know Hulk Hogan, etc. Regards, Len
Post by Cosima___J » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:56 am
Oh, I understand getting all excited about sports events --- especially the NFL. Go Falcons! They are among the top teams this year. Shoud be in the playoffs. Yeah, "Dirty Birds".
In this long thread, did anyone mention that Barbara Bush wants Sarah P. to stay in Alaska.
In reply, Sarah P. naturally played the "class" card. After all, she is the spokeswoman for Jos six-pack.
Post by Barry » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:15 pm
She Who Must Not Be Named
By CHARLES M. BLOW
This is it. This is the last time I'm going to write the name Sarah Palin until she does something truly newsworthy, like declare herself a candidate for the presidency. Until then, I will no longer take part in the left's obsessive-compulsive fascination with her, which is both unhealthy and counterproductive.
She's the Zsa Zsa Gabor of American politics. She once did something noteworthy, but she's now just famous for being famous.
She was a vice presidential nominee. But she lost. She was the governor of Alaska. But she quit. Now she's just a political personality — part cheerleader, part bomb-thrower — being kept afloat in part by the hackles of her enemies and the people who admire her resilience in the face of them. The left's outsize and unrelenting assault on her has made her a folk hero. The logic goes that if she's making people on the left this upset, she must be doing something right.
Yet the left continues to elevate her every utterance so that they can mock and deride her. The problem is that this strategy continues to backfire. The more the left tries to paint her as one of the "Mean Girls," the more the right sees her as "Erin Brockovich." The never-ending attempts to tear her down only build her up. She's like the ominous blob in the horror films: the more you shoot at it, the bigger and stronger it becomes.
Yes, she's about as sharp as a wet balloon, but we already know that. How much more time and energy must be devoted to dissecting that? How is this constructive, or even instructive at this point? What purpose does it serve other than inflaming passions to drive viewership and Web clicks?
As Politico's editor in chief, John F. Harris, and its executive editor, Jim VandeHei, very candidly expressed in August: "More traffic comes from an item on Sarah Palin's 'refudiation' faux pas than from our hundreds of stories on the complexities of health care reform or Wall Street regulation."
So left-leaning blogs like The Huffington Post plaster pictures of her and her family all over their sites with entries about her latest gaffe or sideswipe. But she's barely mentioned on popular conservative blogs.
The same leftward skew is also true on television. An analysis of CNN, MSNBC and Fox News from Nov. 3 to Dec. 2, using data from ShadowTV, a monitoring service, found that CNN mentioned the name "Sarah Palin" nearly 800 times. (O.K., I had to write her name there. Sorry.) Left-leaning MSNBC mentioned it nearly 1,000 times. But Fox News, which employs her, mentioned it fewer than 600 times. (Secondary mentions like "Sarah" or "Palin" are not included in the count. Neither is "Mama Grizzly.")
People on the left seem to need her, to bash her, because she is, in three words, the way the left likes to see the right: hollow, dim and mean. But since she's feeding on the negativity, I suggest three other words: get over it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/04/opini ... ef=opinion
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Post by rwetmore » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:29 pm
Cyril Ignatius wrote: She's a good, smart lady. But she should not run for President. To run for the President, win, and have enough firepower to deal effectively with a hostile press and a hostile ruling class the whole way through requires an extraordinary verbal facility and a very fast, strong intellect. While portraits of Palin as stupid reflect the ingrained ideological needs of the people doing such portraits, it's also the case that Palin doesn't have the facility that Reagan had in this regards. She will best serve as the spiritual leader of the Tea Party movement. She IS as intelligent or more so than most of those who mindlessly pass the "Palin is stupid" nonsense, but to lead the kind of revolution that must be had, she is not the one.
Wow. Extremely well put, Cyril. I only wish I could be as articulate as you.
Unfortunately, I am not optimistic that someone will emerge, and even if they do, that they will be able to significantly reverse what is going on. I mean look how many people actually went out and voted for these people again despite what they've done and how they've behaved? Look how many people think what's been done is actually going to be good? Pretty depressing to me.
"Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted. That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history."
- Aldous Huxley
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing has happened."
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one!"
–Charles Mackay
"It doesn't matter how smart you are - if you don't stop and think."
-Thomas Sowell
"It's one of the functions of the mainstream news media to fact-check political speech and where there are lies, to reveal them to the voters."
-John F. (of CMG)
Post by HoustonDavid » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:38 pm
rwetmore wrote: Unfortunately, I am not optimistic that someone will emerge, and even if they do, that they will be able to significantly reverse what is going on. I mean look how many people actually went out and voted for these people again despite what they've done and how they've behaved? Look how many people think what's been done is actually going to be good? Pretty depressing to me.
Assuming by this you mean the Republicans in the House and Senate who refused to
vote for any Democratic legislation, we are in complete agreement Randall!! Will
wonders never cease.!!
HoustonDavid wrote: Assuming by this you mean the Republicans in the House and Senate who refused to vote for any Democratic legislation, we are in complete agreement Randall!! Will wonders never cease.!!
David, my friend, the number of things you flat out don't know anything about......
rwetmore wrote: David, my friend, the number of things you flat out don't know anything about......
Randall, my friend, the number of things you flat out don't know anything about......
which would seem to include a sense of humor.
Post by Cyril Ignatius » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:44 pm
I think Randall's central point is true. It's not that nobody opposed Obama among Republicans. It's just that their leadership right now is quite weak. If you step back and look at where and when leaders make a dramatic difference in a time of crisis, you see the current crop falling far short. It is not to say they are bad, or stupid, or of malign intent. Some are. And some are nice and well-meaning. It's just that they don't rise to the level we need. The Republicans today are generally a mixture of empty suits and earnest people. The leader we need isn't among their visible figures.
Post by HoustonDavid » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:58 pm
Cyril, I clearly said I agree with him, and I also agree with you. The Congress is
full of empty suits and a very few leaders, and that includes both Republicans and
Democrats. For some reason Randall chose to declare me among the empty suits.
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A clear and sunny (but very chilly!) day greeted riders at Woodlands, for the 2nd race of the winter season and the 1st of the 2013 Winter Points Series races. With some fantastic looking leader's jerseys up for grabs, (this year donning the very special Cycling Southland 50 year logo), the racing promised to be a jolly good show!
Division 1, 2 and 3 set off for two laps of the 32km circuit, with Division 4 racing over one lap.
After the first lap, the Division 1 field remained together, despite a number of attacks on the opening circuit. The bulk of the Division 2 bunch also remained together and Division 3 were looking comfortable and together after their respective first laps.
As the weather threatened to change - and reports of rain in town started arriving -Division 4 came into their sprint finish with a good turn of speed, with John Green comfortably taking the win from Nic Stevens while Kate Wilson took 3rd spot on the podium in a time of 1:03 as Helen McKenzie came in close behind for 4th.
Division 1 riders started to lay it down in the final 10km, with Alex McGregor and Brendan Akeroyd joining forces off the front 8km from the finish. Mathew Zenovich then bridged across to the pair and, with 4km to go, rode away to take the win solo. The remains of the bunch caught McGregor and Akeroyd before the finale, with Mike White taking out 2nd and Alex McGregor holding onto 3rd from an impressive Brendan Akeroyd. Despite the final placings, rider of the day went to Laura Fairweather, who not only finished in the top Division 1 bunch, but also rode aggressively and kept the boys honest. Good work LT!
Division 2 came down to a bunch finish with sprint ace Aaron Sinclair taking the win in a tight tussle with Wally Kopae and Bruce Jones 2nd and 3rd respectively.
Division 3 was also a tight finish, with Mark Day showing good form to take the win from Tim Maynard, the two just gapping a couple of fast finishing girls in Sam Kopae and Shirlene Rollo.
The weather held off and all up it was an excellent day, finished off with a well-earnt beverage at the Woodlands Tavern.
A GREAT BIG THANK YOU to Erin Criglington, the race manager for the day, and also our old faithful helper Robin Criglington, marshalls Ant Leathart, Ian Densie and Marty Lohrey.


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using System;
using System.Text.Json;
using System.Threading;
using System.Threading.Tasks;
using Azure;
using Azure.Core;
using Azure.Core.Pipeline;
using Azure.ResourceManager.Network.Models;

namespace Azure.ResourceManager.Network
{
    internal partial class NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationsRestOperations
    {
        private readonly TelemetryDetails _userAgent;
        private readonly HttpPipeline _pipeline;
        private readonly Uri _endpoint;
        private readonly string _apiVersion;

        /// <summary> Initializes a new instance of NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationsRestOperations. </summary>
        /// <param name="pipeline"> The HTTP pipeline for sending and receiving REST requests and responses. </param>
        /// <param name="applicationId"> The application id to use for user agent. </param>
        /// <param name="endpoint"> server parameter. </param>
        /// <param name="apiVersion"> Api Version. </param>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentNullException"> <paramref name="pipeline"/> or <paramref name="apiVersion"/> is null. </exception>
        public NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationsRestOperations(HttpPipeline pipeline, string applicationId, Uri endpoint = null, string apiVersion = default)
        {
            _pipeline = pipeline ?? throw new ArgumentNullException(nameof(pipeline));
            _endpoint = endpoint ?? new Uri("https://management.azure.com");
            _apiVersion = apiVersion ?? "2021-02-01";
            _userAgent = new TelemetryDetails(GetType().Assembly, applicationId);
        }

        internal HttpMessage CreateListRequest(string subscriptionId, string resourceGroupName, string networkInterfaceName)
        {
            var message = _pipeline.CreateMessage();
            var request = message.Request;
            request.Method = RequestMethod.Get;
            var uri = new RawRequestUriBuilder();
            uri.Reset(_endpoint);
            uri.AppendPath("/subscriptions/", false);
            uri.AppendPath(subscriptionId, true);
            uri.AppendPath("/resourceGroups/", false);
            uri.AppendPath(resourceGroupName, true);
            uri.AppendPath("/providers/Microsoft.Network/networkInterfaces/", false);
            uri.AppendPath(networkInterfaceName, true);
            uri.AppendPath("/ipConfigurations", false);
            uri.AppendQuery("api-version", _apiVersion, true);
            request.Uri = uri;
            request.Headers.Add("Accept", "application/json");
            _userAgent.Apply(message);
            return message;
        }

        /// <summary> Get all ip configurations in a network interface. </summary>
        /// <param name="subscriptionId"> The subscription credentials which uniquely identify the Microsoft Azure subscription. The subscription ID forms part of the URI for every service call. </param>
        /// <param name="resourceGroupName"> The name of the resource group. </param>
        /// <param name="networkInterfaceName"> The name of the network interface. </param>
        /// <param name="cancellationToken"> The cancellation token to use. </param>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentNullException"> <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/> or <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> is null. </exception>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentException"> <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/> or <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> is an empty string, and was expected to be non-empty. </exception>
        public async Task<Response<NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult>> ListAsync(string subscriptionId, string resourceGroupName, string networkInterfaceName, CancellationToken cancellationToken = default)
        {
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(subscriptionId, nameof(subscriptionId));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(resourceGroupName, nameof(resourceGroupName));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(networkInterfaceName, nameof(networkInterfaceName));

            using var message = CreateListRequest(subscriptionId, resourceGroupName, networkInterfaceName);
            await _pipeline.SendAsync(message, cancellationToken).ConfigureAwait(false);
            switch (message.Response.Status)
            {
                case 200:
                    {
                        NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult value = default;
                        using var document = await JsonDocument.ParseAsync(message.Response.ContentStream, default, cancellationToken).ConfigureAwait(false);
                        value = NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult.DeserializeNetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult(document.RootElement);
                        return Response.FromValue(value, message.Response);
                    }
                default:
                    throw new RequestFailedException(message.Response);
            }
        }

        /// <summary> Get all ip configurations in a network interface. </summary>
        /// <param name="subscriptionId"> The subscription credentials which uniquely identify the Microsoft Azure subscription. The subscription ID forms part of the URI for every service call. </param>
        /// <param name="resourceGroupName"> The name of the resource group. </param>
        /// <param name="networkInterfaceName"> The name of the network interface. </param>
        /// <param name="cancellationToken"> The cancellation token to use. </param>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentNullException"> <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/> or <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> is null. </exception>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentException"> <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/> or <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> is an empty string, and was expected to be non-empty. </exception>
        public Response<NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult> List(string subscriptionId, string resourceGroupName, string networkInterfaceName, CancellationToken cancellationToken = default)
        {
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(subscriptionId, nameof(subscriptionId));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(resourceGroupName, nameof(resourceGroupName));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(networkInterfaceName, nameof(networkInterfaceName));

            using var message = CreateListRequest(subscriptionId, resourceGroupName, networkInterfaceName);
            _pipeline.Send(message, cancellationToken);
            switch (message.Response.Status)
            {
                case 200:
                    {
                        NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult value = default;
                        using var document = JsonDocument.Parse(message.Response.ContentStream);
                        value = NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult.DeserializeNetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult(document.RootElement);
                        return Response.FromValue(value, message.Response);
                    }
                default:
                    throw new RequestFailedException(message.Response);
            }
        }

        internal HttpMessage CreateGetRequest(string subscriptionId, string resourceGroupName, string networkInterfaceName, string ipConfigurationName)
        {
            var message = _pipeline.CreateMessage();
            var request = message.Request;
            request.Method = RequestMethod.Get;
            var uri = new RawRequestUriBuilder();
            uri.Reset(_endpoint);
            uri.AppendPath("/subscriptions/", false);
            uri.AppendPath(subscriptionId, true);
            uri.AppendPath("/resourceGroups/", false);
            uri.AppendPath(resourceGroupName, true);
            uri.AppendPath("/providers/Microsoft.Network/networkInterfaces/", false);
            uri.AppendPath(networkInterfaceName, true);
            uri.AppendPath("/ipConfigurations/", false);
            uri.AppendPath(ipConfigurationName, true);
            uri.AppendQuery("api-version", _apiVersion, true);
            request.Uri = uri;
            request.Headers.Add("Accept", "application/json");
            _userAgent.Apply(message);
            return message;
        }

        /// <summary> Gets the specified network interface ip configuration. </summary>
        /// <param name="subscriptionId"> The subscription credentials which uniquely identify the Microsoft Azure subscription. The subscription ID forms part of the URI for every service call. </param>
        /// <param name="resourceGroupName"> The name of the resource group. </param>
        /// <param name="networkInterfaceName"> The name of the network interface. </param>
        /// <param name="ipConfigurationName"> The name of the ip configuration name. </param>
        /// <param name="cancellationToken"> The cancellation token to use. </param>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentNullException"> <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/>, <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> or <paramref name="ipConfigurationName"/> is null. </exception>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentException"> <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/>, <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> or <paramref name="ipConfigurationName"/> is an empty string, and was expected to be non-empty. </exception>
        public async Task<Response<NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationData>> GetAsync(string subscriptionId, string resourceGroupName, string networkInterfaceName, string ipConfigurationName, CancellationToken cancellationToken = default)
        {
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(subscriptionId, nameof(subscriptionId));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(resourceGroupName, nameof(resourceGroupName));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(networkInterfaceName, nameof(networkInterfaceName));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(ipConfigurationName, nameof(ipConfigurationName));

            using var message = CreateGetRequest(subscriptionId, resourceGroupName, networkInterfaceName, ipConfigurationName);
            await _pipeline.SendAsync(message, cancellationToken).ConfigureAwait(false);
            switch (message.Response.Status)
            {
                case 200:
                    {
                        NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationData value = default;
                        using var document = await JsonDocument.ParseAsync(message.Response.ContentStream, default, cancellationToken).ConfigureAwait(false);
                        value = NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationData.DeserializeNetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationData(document.RootElement);
                        return Response.FromValue(value, message.Response);
                    }
                case 404:
                    return Response.FromValue((NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationData)null, message.Response);
                default:
                    throw new RequestFailedException(message.Response);
            }
        }

        /// <summary> Gets the specified network interface ip configuration. </summary>
        /// <param name="subscriptionId"> The subscription credentials which uniquely identify the Microsoft Azure subscription. The subscription ID forms part of the URI for every service call. </param>
        /// <param name="resourceGroupName"> The name of the resource group. </param>
        /// <param name="networkInterfaceName"> The name of the network interface. </param>
        /// <param name="ipConfigurationName"> The name of the ip configuration name. </param>
        /// <param name="cancellationToken"> The cancellation token to use. </param>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentNullException"> <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/>, <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> or <paramref name="ipConfigurationName"/> is null. </exception>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentException"> <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/>, <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> or <paramref name="ipConfigurationName"/> is an empty string, and was expected to be non-empty. </exception>
        public Response<NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationData> Get(string subscriptionId, string resourceGroupName, string networkInterfaceName, string ipConfigurationName, CancellationToken cancellationToken = default)
        {
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(subscriptionId, nameof(subscriptionId));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(resourceGroupName, nameof(resourceGroupName));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(networkInterfaceName, nameof(networkInterfaceName));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(ipConfigurationName, nameof(ipConfigurationName));

            using var message = CreateGetRequest(subscriptionId, resourceGroupName, networkInterfaceName, ipConfigurationName);
            _pipeline.Send(message, cancellationToken);
            switch (message.Response.Status)
            {
                case 200:
                    {
                        NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationData value = default;
                        using var document = JsonDocument.Parse(message.Response.ContentStream);
                        value = NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationData.DeserializeNetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationData(document.RootElement);
                        return Response.FromValue(value, message.Response);
                    }
                case 404:
                    return Response.FromValue((NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationData)null, message.Response);
                default:
                    throw new RequestFailedException(message.Response);
            }
        }

        internal HttpMessage CreateListNextPageRequest(string nextLink, string subscriptionId, string resourceGroupName, string networkInterfaceName)
        {
            var message = _pipeline.CreateMessage();
            var request = message.Request;
            request.Method = RequestMethod.Get;
            var uri = new RawRequestUriBuilder();
            uri.Reset(_endpoint);
            uri.AppendRawNextLink(nextLink, false);
            request.Uri = uri;
            request.Headers.Add("Accept", "application/json");
            _userAgent.Apply(message);
            return message;
        }

        /// <summary> Get all ip configurations in a network interface. </summary>
        /// <param name="nextLink"> The URL to the next page of results. </param>
        /// <param name="subscriptionId"> The subscription credentials which uniquely identify the Microsoft Azure subscription. The subscription ID forms part of the URI for every service call. </param>
        /// <param name="resourceGroupName"> The name of the resource group. </param>
        /// <param name="networkInterfaceName"> The name of the network interface. </param>
        /// <param name="cancellationToken"> The cancellation token to use. </param>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentNullException"> <paramref name="nextLink"/>, <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/> or <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> is null. </exception>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentException"> <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/> or <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> is an empty string, and was expected to be non-empty. </exception>
        public async Task<Response<NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult>> ListNextPageAsync(string nextLink, string subscriptionId, string resourceGroupName, string networkInterfaceName, CancellationToken cancellationToken = default)
        {
            Argument.AssertNotNull(nextLink, nameof(nextLink));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(subscriptionId, nameof(subscriptionId));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(resourceGroupName, nameof(resourceGroupName));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(networkInterfaceName, nameof(networkInterfaceName));

            using var message = CreateListNextPageRequest(nextLink, subscriptionId, resourceGroupName, networkInterfaceName);
            await _pipeline.SendAsync(message, cancellationToken).ConfigureAwait(false);
            switch (message.Response.Status)
            {
                case 200:
                    {
                        NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult value = default;
                        using var document = await JsonDocument.ParseAsync(message.Response.ContentStream, default, cancellationToken).ConfigureAwait(false);
                        value = NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult.DeserializeNetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult(document.RootElement);
                        return Response.FromValue(value, message.Response);
                    }
                default:
                    throw new RequestFailedException(message.Response);
            }
        }

        /// <summary> Get all ip configurations in a network interface. </summary>
        /// <param name="nextLink"> The URL to the next page of results. </param>
        /// <param name="subscriptionId"> The subscription credentials which uniquely identify the Microsoft Azure subscription. The subscription ID forms part of the URI for every service call. </param>
        /// <param name="resourceGroupName"> The name of the resource group. </param>
        /// <param name="networkInterfaceName"> The name of the network interface. </param>
        /// <param name="cancellationToken"> The cancellation token to use. </param>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentNullException"> <paramref name="nextLink"/>, <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/> or <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> is null. </exception>
        /// <exception cref="ArgumentException"> <paramref name="subscriptionId"/>, <paramref name="resourceGroupName"/> or <paramref name="networkInterfaceName"/> is an empty string, and was expected to be non-empty. </exception>
        public Response<NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult> ListNextPage(string nextLink, string subscriptionId, string resourceGroupName, string networkInterfaceName, CancellationToken cancellationToken = default)
        {
            Argument.AssertNotNull(nextLink, nameof(nextLink));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(subscriptionId, nameof(subscriptionId));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(resourceGroupName, nameof(resourceGroupName));
            Argument.AssertNotNullOrEmpty(networkInterfaceName, nameof(networkInterfaceName));

            using var message = CreateListNextPageRequest(nextLink, subscriptionId, resourceGroupName, networkInterfaceName);
            _pipeline.Send(message, cancellationToken);
            switch (message.Response.Status)
            {
                case 200:
                    {
                        NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult value = default;
                        using var document = JsonDocument.Parse(message.Response.ContentStream);
                        value = NetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult.DeserializeNetworkInterfaceIPConfigurationListResult(document.RootElement);
                        return Response.FromValue(value, message.Response);
                    }
                default:
                    throw new RequestFailedException(message.Response);
            }
        }
    }
}

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Steph Curry Sells His Silicon Valley 'Dream Home' for $31 Million – See Photos!
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In the midst of an ever-so-thriving basketball career, Golden State Warriors player Stephen Curry still managed to make some real estate deals too. As it turns out, Curry sold his "dream home" in Atherton, California last fall, for a hefty price tag of $31.2 million, Dirt reported.
Related story Brad Pitt Is Reportedly 'Looking for Something Smaller' After Listing the $40 Million LA Estate He Shared With Ex Angelina Jolie
According to the outlet, Curry sold the lavish mansion to a Singapore-based billionaire Forrest Li, but didn't make much of a profit. In fact, records show he sold the four bedrooms and six baths home for only $150,000 more than what he bought it for back in June 2019.
As for the place itself, the home boasts a modern stucco and glass exterior, lies on an acre of property, and has over 7,500 square feet spread across its three stories. When Curry bought it back in 2019, the home had just finished being built. The property was built by local developer Joe Comartin of Woodlane Properties and designed by Ken Linsteadt Architects.
Main features of the home also include an open-concept living space, a gourmet eat-in kitchen, and a spacious sundeck and pool. The property also has a small guesthouse and a detached three-car garage.
Check out some of the pictures of the former Curry home and for more info, be sure to check out Dirt's coverage!

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MY TRUTH: Every Vote Matters
The Black Voters Matter bus came to the Bunnlevel community Tuesday. The program focuses on making African American voters aware of the issues and helps them find candidates who fit their wishes.
I didn't get to show love on Valentine's Day, by casting my vote in the primary election.
Monday, February 14, 2022 was the first day of early voting and I wanted to walk into a polling location and cast my vote for the candidates of my choice.
No matter how long it took, I was going to go through every page, until the very end of the ballot, to make sure that I did my civic and moral duty.
I wanted to cast my vote for those who came before me and were denied; for those who will never vote because of interactions with a system that stripped them of that right; and, for those yet unborn who deserve to have people with decency and common sense making decisions about their future.
I missed that first day, and second; however it is my intent to not let this week come to an end without voting. Until I make it to the polls, I pray every day that I will make it to the polls because I would hate for some incompetent, ill-prepared, unconscionable and yes, unethical person to be elected because of my refusal to take advantage of the right to vote.
Critics or devil's advocates would say that I voted before and we still ended up with incompetent, ill-prepared unconscionable and yes, unethical people in office.
True! You won't get an argument here.
Which brings me to my truth.
Dr. Ben Chavis of the National Newspaper Publishers Association recently stressed the importance of voting, especially in Texas where we have been dealing with so many oppressive and racist laws.
I have to believe that every vote counts, that my vote counts, and that if you vote, yours will too.
So, every day, I am having discussions about voting.
Sadly, there's no difference in the young mother of three who has found herself dependent on government assistance and the college-educated man working in corporate America, or the homeless person living under the bridge. People of all walks of life are opting out of the process that is determining their very existence.
According to the secretary of state, 66% of 17 million registered Texas voters joined me at the polls, and that was pretty high for Texas!
Well, that was a presidential election! In contrast, although there was a significant increase during the midterm election in 2018, 46.3 should have and could have been better.
Fast forward to 2022 and folks are already predicting the turnout is going to be low.
People we can't afford a low turnout.
I applaud Black Voters Matter and look forward to their efforts in Texas this week. Hopefully everyone will be just as engaged.
We need every able-bodied person voting.
We need every elected official out campaigning, even if they don't have an opponent or they aren't on the ballot.
Face it! You can't dust off your "we need everybody voting" message only when you want people to vote for you!
The playbook is real. The struggle doesn't stop. The issues must be addressed.
Furthermore, no matter how much you "don't like politics," you can't hide or disengage yourself without consequences and repercussions.
Efforts to encourage people to go to the polls can't be minimized or stymied. We have to remain vigilant and focused. We have to be encouraging and supportive, while also informative and non-judgmental.
No matter what!
We have to get out the vote, because every vote does matter!
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Born in Austin, Texas, Katherine Arden spent a year of high school in Rennes, France. Following her acceptance to Middlebury College in Vermont, she deferred enrollment for a year in order to live and study in Moscow. At Middlebury, she specialized in French and Russian literature. After receiving her BA, she moved to Maui, Hawaii, working every kind of odd job imaginable, from grant writing and making crêpes to guiding horse trips. Currently she lives in Vermont, but really, you never know.
Early Review: THE WINTER OF THE WITCH by Katherine Arden
December 10, 2018 /18 Comments/in Reviews Katherine Arden Winternight Trilogy Del Rey Books Fantasy Netgalley /by Suzanne
The Winter of the Witch by Katherine Arden
Also by this author: The Bear and the Nightingale
Series: Winternight Trilogy #3
Published by Del Rey Books on January 8, 2019
The Winter of the Witch is the final book in Katherine Arden's captivating Winternight Trilogy. I always find it difficult to review books that come late in a series because it's so hard to talk about them without giving away spoilers, but I'm going to give it my best shot here and hope that my words do it justice because filled with unforgettable characters, intricate worldbuilding, and creatures from Russian folklore, the Winternight Trilogy truly is one of the most beautifully crafted series I've ever read.
To give a bit of general context for those who have begun the series, The Winter of the Witch picks up right where the second book left off. Moscow is in ruins and its terrified citizens are looking for answers, and more specifically, for someone to blame. That someone, unfortunately, becomes our heroine Vasya, and the final book begins with her fleeing for her life from an angry mob who accuse her of being a witch and want to see her dead.
War is also brewing as the Grand Prince of Moscow looks to go after those who threaten his kingdom. While the Grand Prince prepares for war, the priest Konstantin has troubles of his own. Although he may be a powerful religious figure, Konstantin is a weak man, easily manipulated by those stronger than he is. In Konstantin's case, he finds himself the puppet of a vengeful demon named the Bear. The Bear feeds off of chaos, fear, and war so he uses Konstantin to fan the flames of hatred and distrust to create chaos everywhere.
This chaos and turmoil affects not just the humans, but also the magical creatures. Vasya finds herself with the weight of both worlds on her shoulders as she desperately tries to save both her Russian homeland and her beloved magical realm.
Can Vasya stop the Bear and Konstantin? Can she stop a war? And most importantly, is there any way that her magical pagan world can peacefully coexist with the human world? It's a tall order, and Vasya isn't sure she's up to the task.
Vasya. As with the two prior books, Vasya is my favorite part about this story. We've watched her grow from a young girl to a young woman and there has just been such tremendous character growth throughout each book. That growth continues well into this final book and I can honestly say that Vasya is one of my all-time favorite book heroines. I love her big heart, her refusal to conform to what is expected of her, and most especially, I love her resilience. The final book presents Vasya with several heartbreaking, gut-wrenching moments – moments that probably would have crushed a lesser person – but no matter how low she is pushed down, she always picks herself back up and refuses to give up.
Worldbuilding. I honestly didn't think Arden could improve upon the worldbuilding from the first two books, but she proved me wrong with the Winter of the Witch. Again, I don't want to say much because of spoilers, but into her world of Russian inspired folklore, she introduces what she calls the Road to Midnight and for me, it's one of the most memorable and unique parts of the story. Vasya finds herself journeying on this road as she desperately seeks help from the Frost Demon and the journey she takes is truly magical, so much so that it almost defies explanation. It's kind of like time traveling but so much more. You really have to experience it for yourself to get a feel for how wild a ride it really is.
Wonderful Secondary Characters. Some like Solovey, Vasya's horse, and Morozko, the Frost Demon, I adored. Others like the Bear and Konstantin, not so much. But whether I loved or hated them, this series has a fantastic and unforgettable cast of well-drawn characters. We also meet several more mythological creatures in this final book and their bond of mutual respect with Vasya adds so much richness to the story and really emphasizes how she is a bridge between the two worlds.
Creative Use of History. I didn't realize this until I read the author's note, but some of the characters and events in the series are based on real historical events, including a war. Arden has, of course, put her own personal and creative twist on them, but the historical fiction fan in me thought it was very cool to learn the story was based on not just Russian folklore but on actual Russian history as well.
It made me cry. This does not happen to me often when I read fantasy series, but The Winter of the Witch made me cry. Not just once or twice, but three times! I won't say specifically why I cried, but I will say that two times, my tears were tears of sadness and one time, they were tears of joy. That's how attached to these characters I got!
I dislike that the series is over because I'm going to miss these characters and this gorgeous world so much, but that's really all I've got. For me, this series is about as close to perfection as it gets.
The Winternight Trilogy is, by far, one of the most unforgettable series I've ever read. I love that while it's a wholly unique story inspired by Russian history and folklore, it's also reminiscent of some of my favorite childhood fantasies like The Chronicles of Narnia because the strong element of whimsical magic and wonder that permeates it.
Following their adventures in The Bear and the Nightingale and The Girl in the Tower, Vasya and Morozko return in this stunning conclusion to the bestselling Winternight Trilogy, battling enemies mortal and magical to save both Russias, the seen and the unseen.
Reviewers called Katherine Arden's novels The Bear and the Nightingale and The Girl in the Tower "lyrical," "emotionally stirring," and "utterly bewitching." The Winternight Trilogy introduced an unforgettable heroine, Vasilisa Petrovna, a girl determined to forge her own path in a world that would rather lock her away. Her gifts and her courage have drawn the attention of Morozko, the winter-king, but it is too soon to know if this connection will prove a blessing or a curse.
Now Moscow has been struck by disaster. Its people are searching for answers—and for someone to blame. Vasya finds herself alone, beset on all sides. The Grand Prince is in a rage, choosing allies that will lead him on a path to war and ruin. A wicked demon returns, stronger than ever and determined to spread chaos. Caught at the center of the conflict is Vasya, who finds the fate of two worlds resting on her shoulders. Her destiny uncertain, Vasya will uncover surprising truths about herself and her history as she desperately tries to save Russia, Morozko, and the magical world she treasures. But she may not be able to save them all.
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Review: THE GIRL IN THE TOWER by Katherine Arden
December 1, 2017 /10 Comments/in Reviews Katherine Arden The Winternight Trilogy Del Rey Fantasy, Historical Fiction Netgalley /by Suzanne
The Girl in the Tower by Katherine Arden
Series: The Winternight Trilogy #2
Published by Del Rey on December 5th 2017
Genres: Fantasy, Historical Fiction
Also in this series: The Bear and the Nightingale
Katherine Arden's The Winternight Trilogy is one of the most captivating series I've ever read. I fell in love with the series last winter when I read the first book, The Bear and the Nightingale. Filled with lush worldbuilding, a feisty heroine, fascinating Russian folklore, and a touch of the supernatural, The Bear and the Nightingale entranced me from the first pages and I just fell in love with everything about the story. I couldn't wait to get my hands on the second book, The Girl in the Tower, and was thrilled to be approved for an advanced copy to review on my blog.
I didn't think it was possible to top the gorgeous storytelling in the first book, but Arden proved me wrong. As much as I adored The Bear and the Nightingale, I thought The Girl in the Tower was even more amazing! It has all of the same wonderful elements as the first book – the magic, the Russian folklore, beloved characters like Vasya, her horse Solovey, and the Frost Demon. But then, there's just also so much more to love.
In The Girl in the Tower, Vasya has really come into her own in terms of character growth. She is still a free spirit who refuses to bow down and do what society expects young women to do, but now she is also more mature and a bit wiser because of what she went through in the first book.
The Girl in the Tower picks up right where The Bear and the Nightingale left off. Because of what happened to Vasya in the first book, there are rumors swirling around her village that she is a witch. Faced with the choices before her – either marrying someone she doesn't love or being sent to live in a convent — Vasya decides to create her own destiny and runs away from home. When the story opens, we meet Vasya traveling, disguised as a boy, with only her horse, Solovey, by her side.
The roads she travels on are rugged and unsafe, but Vasya's journey ultimately takes her to Moscow where she is reunited with her monk brother, Sasha; her sister, Olga, who is now a princess; and her cousin Dmitrii, who is the Crown Prince of Moscow. Desperately trying to conceal her true identity, Vasya gets caught up in a web of deception, lies, and political unrest and finds herself faced with extremely dangerous choices everywhere she turns.
How will she get out of her predicament and what will happen to her if her true identity is revealed?
As with the first book, the atmospheric quality of The Girl in the Tower was one of my favorite parts of the novel. As soon as I began reading, I felt as though I had been transported to Vasya's world. Arden masterfully paints a medieval Russian landscape and skillfully dots this landscape with a fascinating mix of supernatural elements and Russian folklore. Her descriptions are so vivid that I could practically hear the snow crunching under Solovey's hooves as he and Vasya traversed the snowy landscape, just as I could easily envision the tiny magical spirit guardians hidden in each building Vasya entered.
Vasya is of course still a major favorite of mine. I admire her bravery and her feistiness and the fact that she doesn't want to be forced into marriage or into a convent. She has no interest in society's expectations for women and, instead, wants to be an adventurer and travel the world. Vasya has a spirit that cannot be tamed, and I couldn't help but cheer her on, even though I know it's likely to be dangerous for her.
In addition to Vasya, another favorite character of mine is her stallion, Solovey. Solovey and Vasya can communicate with each other, and some of their exchanges are truly hilarious. I love Solovey for his loyalty, his sassiness, and for his fierceness. You'll want a Solovey of your very own after reading this story. He's the perfect companion for Vasya.
And, of course, I can't leave out an unexpected favorite character, Morozko, the Frost Demon. Arden adds layers and layers of complexity to Morozko in this second book and I just fell in love with him even more than I did in the first book. The details of his history, along with his connection to Vasya, are what truly take this story to the next level, and even though I probably shouldn't ship Vasya and Morozko, I totally do. I just can't get enough of the two of them together!
I also loved that this story seemed a little darker and a little more grounded in reality than the first story because of the focus on political unrest in Moscow. It added a layer of danger and intrigue that really made for an exciting and fast-paced read.
The only issue I had while reading this book was that it started out a little slow for me. It may have been because it took a few pages to actually get to Vasya's story, but I'm actually going to chalk it up as a personal issue because I was trying to start the book while riding on a train and was constantly distracted. Once I got home and continued reading where there were less distractions, I devoured the rest of the book in less than 24 hours.
The Girl in the Tower is a tale that is beautiful yet dark, enchanting yet also horrifying. With its gorgeous prose, memorable characters, and intricate storytelling, it has also secured itself a spot on my Top Reads of 2017 list. Katherine Arden has truly captivated me with this series and I can't wait to get my hands on the final installment. I highly recommend this series to anyone who loves a strong, feisty, independent heroine and good solid storytelling, as well as to anyone who is interested in Russian folklore. You won't be disappointed!
GOODREADS SYNOPSIS
The magical adventure begun in The Bear and the Nightingale continues as brave Vasya, now a young woman, is forced to choose between marriage or life in a convent and instead flees her home—but soon finds herself called upon to help defend the city of Moscow when it comes under siege.
Orphaned and cast out as a witch by her village, Vasya's options are few: resign herself to life in a convent, or allow her older sister to make her a match with a Moscovite prince. Both doom her to life in a tower, cut off from the vast world she longs to explore. So instead she chooses adventure, disguising herself as a boy and riding her horse into the woods. When a battle with some bandits who have been terrorizing the countryside earns her the admiration of the Grand Prince of Moscow, she must carefully guard the secret of her gender to remain in his good graces—even as she realizes his kingdom is under threat from mysterious forces only she will be able to stop.
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ARC Review: The Bear and the Nightingale by Katherine Arden
December 23, 2016 /8 Comments/in Reviews Katherine Arden The Winternight Trilogy Del Rey Fantasy Netgalley /by Suzanne
The Bear and the Nightingale by Katherine Arden
Also by this author: The Girl in the Tower
Published by Del Rey on January 10th 2017
Also in this series: The Girl in the Tower
Goodreads Synopsis: A magical debut novel for readers of Naomi Novik's Uprooted, Erin Morgenstern's The Night Circus, and Neil Gaiman's myth-rich fantasies, The Bear and the Nightingale spins an irresistible spell as it announces the arrival of a singular talent with a gorgeous voice.
At the edge of the Russian wilderness, winter lasts most of the year and the snowdrifts grow taller than houses. But Vasilisa doesn't mind—she spends the winter nights huddled around the embers of a fire with her beloved siblings, listening to her nurse's fairy tales. Above all, she loves the chilling story of Frost, the blue-eyed winter demon, who appears in the frigid night to claim unwary souls. Wise Russians fear him, her nurse says, and honor the spirits of house and yard and forest that protect their homes from evil.
After Vasilisa's mother dies, her father goes to Moscow and brings home a new wife. Fiercely devout, city-bred, Vasilisa's new stepmother forbids her family from honoring the household spirits. The family acquiesces, but Vasilisa is frightened, sensing that more hinges upon their rituals than anyone knows.
And indeed, crops begin to fail, evil creatures of the forest creep nearer, and misfortune stalks the village. All the while, Vasilisa's stepmother grows ever harsher in her determination to groom her rebellious stepdaughter for either marriage or confinement in a convent.
As danger circles, Vasilisa must defy even the people she loves and call on dangerous gifts she has long concealed—this, in order to protect her family from a threat that seems to have stepped from her nurse's most frightening tales.
The Bear and the Nightingale is, by far, one of my favorite reads of 2016. I had high expectations for as soon as I read the synopsis comparing it to Erin Morganstern's The Night Circus, which is one of my all-time favorite reads, and I'm thrilled to say that The Bear and the Nightingale far exceeded my expectations. A tale steeped in Russian folklore, mythology, and fairy tales, it's pure magic in every sense of the word!
I personally think the story is best appreciated going in with as few spoilers as possibly so I'm not going to expand too much beyond what is already in the synopsis, but I do want to hit some high points of what made the book so special for me.
What I Loved:
The Setting and Atmosphere: Not since visiting Narnia when I read C.S. Lewis' The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe have I felt so immersed in another place and time as when I began reading The Bear and the Nightingale. With her rich and vivid descriptions, Arden transports her readers to Medieval Russia. The atmosphere feels so authentic that the snow, the bitter cold, the wilderness, and the dangerous mountainous terrain are almost palpable as we follow Vasilisa and her family through the story.
I also loved that the whole story had this oddly cozy yet often creepy vibe to it – I felt like I was actually taking shelter from the cold in front of the fire with Vasilisa and her siblings and listening to nurse Dunya tell the old Russian fairytales of Frost the blue eyed demon. It made it especially creepy when the story takes a very Game of Thrones "Winter is Coming!" turn that makes it feel like Dunya's chilling tales are coming to life right before the characters' (and our) eyes.
Vasilisa (or Vasya as she is more affectionately known): I fell in love with Vasya right away. Vasya is an utterly charming free spirit. She has no interest whatsoever in conforming to anyone else's preconceived notions of how women should behave. Vasya much prefers to spend her days frolicking outside in the woods and, much to the dismay of her parents, often disappears for hours at a time to go off adventuring. Vasya is obviously headstrong and a bit defiant, but she's also smart, brave, and when it comes down to it, would sacrifice anything to protect her family. Everyone around her has suspected since she was a small child that there was something different about her, and it soon becomes clear that she has a gift and a connection to the spirit world that few others do. In harnessing that gift, she clearly demonstrates later in the novel that she is a force to be reckoned with. When it becomes clear that extreme danger is closing in on her village and that she is the only one who can stop it, Vasya displays incredible inner strength that men twice her age and size probably couldn't muster in her situation.
Christianity vs. Tradition/Ritual: While this story is perfectly entertaining as a magical fairytale retelling, I loved the extra layer of depth that was provided by this religious conflict. For generations Vasya and her fellow villagers have relied on their traditions of honoring the spirits of house, yard, and forest to keep them from harm. They consider it to be a symbiotic relationship where they take care of the spirits with offerings of food to keep up their strength and the spirits reciprocate by protecting the villagers from harm. Then suddenly Vasya's new stepmother, who may or may not be mentally unstable, comes into the picture, bringing with her Christianity and a priest, suddenly the villagers' old ways come under attack. The offerings to the spirits are deemed foolish and the priest tells the villagers they must abandon their old ways and turn to God for protection instead. I found it especially interesting that the least likable characters in the novel are those who profess to be the most Christian. The priest, in particular, is portrayed as quite arrogant and as having questionable, even egotistical motives, for trying to "enlighten" these villagers. He doesn't consider for a moment the possibility that there might really be protective spirits out there or that the danger closing in on the community could be beyond the realm of his wildest imagination. When he convinces the villagers to abandon the spirits and the spirits abandon them in turn, it becomes clear that perhaps he and Christianity are not the answer.
Any Complaints?
About the only complaint I had was early on I thought the pacing was a little slow at times, mainly the part where Vasya's father travels to Moscow in search of a new wife. Once he brings his new wife home, however, the action picks up immediately as the wife is the catalyst for much of the rest of the story's dramatic events. If you find it a little slow like I did, stick with it. I promise you won't regret it!
Who Would I Recommend The Bear and the Nightingale to?
I'd definitely highly recommend The Bear and the Nightingale to anyone who loves fantasy, historical fiction, and folklore, but honestly, because the story is so wonderful, I'd recommend it to pretty much anyone. In fact, I wish this book was already out because I can think of at least half a dozen people who I've love to give it to for Christmas. Put The Bear and the Nightingale on your must-read list for 2017. It's truly a magical read!
Thanks so much to Netgalley, Katherine Arden, and Random House Publishing Group – Ballantine/Del Rey for the opportunity to preview this beautiful book!
Rating: 4.5 stars!
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