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When Jim Abdo sees an old, boarded-up house in the city he doesn't turn away in disgust or simply dismiss it from his mind. Instead, he admires the architectural beauty of the carefully mortared brick or the earthy tones of the brownstone used in the foundation.
Next, he'll begin to visualize what the building could be, with newly designed windows, the removal of interior walls and the installation of such modern features as a gourmet kitchen and skylights.
Mr. Abdo isn't simply a visionary. He has transformed some of Washington's worst properties into interesting and luxurious residences while maintaining the exterior integrity as representative of turn-of-the-century architecture. In the process, he has helped spur the rejuvenation of the Logan Circle/Dupont Circle neighborhood.
"It feels good to me to see the momentum happening in this part of the city today," Mr. Abdo says.
"I was the first of the developers from the Dupont Circle area to start building luxury housing east of 16th Street. And now, Fresh Fields has decided to build a 47.000-square-foot grocery store with two levels of parking right down the street from the homes I've developed. This just confirms that I was right".
Abdo Development specializes in the conversion of old and derelict buildings rather than their restoration, and Mr. Abdo and his architect, Greg Zahn, have a distinctive styIe.
"If I could build without walls at all, I would," Mr. Abdo says. I love to see open spaces and plenty of light in a home. We put in tall windows every place we can, and we put transom windows over every door, including even the bathrooms."
One of Mr. Abdo's recent projects began on a note of serendipity He was working on the conversion of an abandoned building that had deteriorated into a crack house, at 1517 P St. NW, and he often parked his truck in what he thought was an alley. That is, until he received a letter of complaint from an attorney representing the owner of what turned out to be a vacant lot. Mr Abdo promptly bought the lot, and when he finished with 1517 P St., he began the painstaking process of building 1515 P St., an all-new structure built to blend perfectly with its older neighbors.
The James condominium building is a grand Victorian/Arts and Crafts-style structure with a dramatic brick and brownstone facade with massive bay windows. As Mr. Abdo points out, the building has butter joints, or very thin mortar between the bricks. This labor intensive process results in a cleaner line for the facade and matches the mortar on 1517 p St. next door.
"Our goal was to look as much as possible like the other buildings of the same time period, so we spent an enormous amount of time on the butter Joints and on searching for brownstone to match the foundation of 1517.
Mr Abdo says "Eventually we found brownstone of the same color in Connecticut and had all the lintels hand cut and shipped here. Now it looks like it could be a century old, but it was cut less than a year ago."
The dramatic top-floor condominium in the James is now on the market for $465,000 because its owners are ready to move Into a slightly larger condominium by AbdoDevelopment as soon as It's completed. In keeping with this company's style, the main features of the condominium are soaring ceilings, open rooms and tall windows.
"I particularly wanted to take advantage of these homes southern exposure", Mr. Abdo says. So we put in 16-foot-high ceilings and l3-foot-high windows. We put in mullioned windows with black trim on the inside which gives a very dramatic appearance, and the side windows of the same height give a view up and down P Street while opening up the room even more."
The open living room and diningroom share the view out these tall windows. The open upstairs loft, used as a home office, also has a view straight out windows. A charming reading corner has been created in one corner of the loft, framed by built-in bookshelves and with a window directly in of it. Two sets of double-door closets have been built in the loft, which could also be used as second bedroom. At the rear of the living room and dining room area is an open kitchen, designed to blend with the black-trimmed windows and other design elements of the home. The counter is constructed of Luna Pearl granite, the appliances are all top of the line, and the European beech cabinets feature interior Lighting and glass doors.
A few steps down is the private bedroom area, which features an oversized master bedroom with 10-foot-high ceilings and a private iron balcony reached through French doors. There are two closets with overhead storage and an Italian marble bath with a two-person, glass-doored shower. A second bath features Italian marble and a .S-foot soaking tub.
Throughout this home and the others he builds, Mr. Abdo concentrates on adding storage in every possible space. The floors are select-grade white oak, and all interior doors are custom solid wood. This unit has a hidden wall of closets underneath the stairs to the loft and a set of built-in bookshelves near the master bedroom. A gas fireplace with a remote control warms the living room and dining room, and recessed lights with dimmercontrols can be found throughout the unit. Mr Abdo and his colleagues custom-build all the baseboards and moldings in their homes and take special pride in their beauty. Partly because of this, they decided to pre-instail phone outlets in every room with six-line capability for home offices faxes, modems and future technology. He says the idea of Bell Atlantic workers attaching wiring or cutting holes in the woodwork was too much to handle.
For safety, each home has an electronic security system and an advanced video entry system that allows the homeowner to see who is at the front door before answering. The building also has a fire sprinkler system. Two private parking spaces are available behind the building.
Mr. Abdo's clients tend to be people who enjoy the cultural excitement and diversity of city living who want an easy and sophisticated lifestyle. Most of his condominiums sell in the high 5300.000s; loft-level homes sell in the mid-S400,000s. He tends to work on three or four projects at a time, and has now restored more than 10 Dupont and Logan Circle properties since 1996. After each project is completed. Mr. Abdo has Torn Bucci, a local artist, paint two watercolors of the building. Mr. Abdo keeps one of the paintings in his office and gives the other to the new owners.
Address: 1515 P SI. NW Community: Dupont Circle
Age: Less than one year Price: $465000
Size: 1,450 square feet
Taxes: $3,200 (Estimated in 1998)
Exterior features: Victorian-style brick-and-brownstone town house with front wan of mullioned bay windows, thin mortar joints, ornamented metal stoop, built on narrow lot.
Interior features: Top-level condominium with 16-fool-high ceilings and 13-loot-high windows in the open living room. dining room: open kitchen with beech cabinets and granite counter tops; white oak flooring and custom moldings; oversized master bedroom with French doors to balcony. 1 0-toot-high ceiling. elegant Italian marble bath and two closets with overhead storage; second full Italian marble bath: loft for use as home office or second bedroom with two dosets and built-in bookshelves: additional storage closets alt over home.
AmenIties: Electronic security system with video phone entry system. gas remote-controlled fireplace, two private parking places,, phone outlets pre-wired for six lines.
Close by: Dupont Circle, Logan Circle.16th Street and Connecticut Avenue, Studio Theatre and soon-to-be-built Fresh Fields grocery store. Contact Abdo Development, 202/265-9393
Office: (202) 265 9393 Fax: (202) 265 7072 info@abdo.com
1416 P Street, NW Washington, DC 20005
Copyright © 2017 - Abdo Development All rights reserved.


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Lord Howe Island Museum > Past Projects > Introduced Animals
Introduced Animals
This display was designed to show how introduced animals were part of the way of life for previous generations, the impacts those animals had, the benefits since cats, pigs and goats were removed in the 1980s, and to prompt consideration of what might be done about rodents. The display features artwork, photographs and design by local artist Margaret Murray and Curator Ian Hutton.
The design, construction and installation of the display was funded by various donations from The Lord Howe Island Board, Peter Dowling, and Janet White & Neil Fordyce, in 2012.
As on most islands around the world, exotic animals were introduced to Lord Howe Island either deliberately as stock or pets, or accidentally as in the case of rats, mice and frogs. Some of these animals have had an impact on the flora and fauna of the Island. However since the 1970s these impacts have been recognised, and there have been major conservation projects involving removal of cats, pigs and goats.
A challenge ahead for the community and government is to achieve eradication of rodents, which would provide the most significant benefits of any conservation measure on the Island.
Other past projects
Zoom In!
A recent major acquisition at the Museum was the purchase of a digital microscope, the Micro-Eye built in New Zealand by Micro-Imaging.
Portrait of James Dorman
In 2021, the Museum commissioned a portrait painting of founder James Dorman.
Woodhen book
This book gives information on often asked questions about the Woodhen, plus the story of its rescue from the brink of extinction in 1980. The production was provided by LHI Museum volunteer committee members Ian Hutton, Sue Nichols and Margaret Murray.
1960s souvenir booklet
Shirley had this booklet reprinted in memory of her mother, and to support the Lord Howe Island Museum. The original was one of the first booklets available to tourists after World War II.
Electricity generator
This generator has been part of the museum's collection for some 20 years. Funds were used to engage local mechanic, Bing Simpson, to give the generator conservation treatment to limit future oxidation and preserve the original character.
World Heritage book
This lavish 264 page colour book is a celebration of World Heritage Lord Howe Island. Sponsorship of the book came following a visit to the Island by Michael Looker, Director of the Nature Conservancy (Australia), who felt that it is important to promote Lord Howe Island as an example of world's best practice environmental management by the Lord Howe Island Board and the New South Wales government.

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Chicago is a musical set in Prohibition-era Chicago. The music is by John Kander with lyrics by Fred Ebb and a book by Ebb and Bob Fosse.
The musical is based on a 1926 play of the same name by reporter Maurine Dallas Watkins about actual criminals and crimes she reported on.
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HomeStatisticsDirector/ProducerMichael Seater Height, Weight, Age, Body Statistics
Michael Seater Height, Weight, Age, Body Statistics
Michael Seater Quick Info
Height 5 ft 11 in
Michael Seater is a Canadian actor, voice actor, director, screenwriter, and producer who started his career as a child artist. He is known for his TV roles like playing Derek Venturi in the teen situation comedy series Life with Derek, Lucas Randall in the science fiction series Strange Days at Blake Holsey High, Ivan Buchinsky in the drama series Bomb Girls, James Clarkson in the drama series The Wedding Planners, Tom Bellow in the sictom 18 to Life, Spencer Sharpe in the science fiction series The Zack Files, and Owen in sci-fi series ReGenesis. Moreover, his film credits include Future Fear, Adventures in the Sin Bin, Night of the Living Dead, Sly Cad, Vanished Without a Trace, Jenny and the Queen of Light, Cyber Seduction: His Secret Life, On Thin Ice, Degrassi Goes Hollywood, She Drives Me Crazy, and The Prize Winner of Defiance, Ohio.
Michael Bruce Patrick Seater
Nick Names
McDikel, Mikey
Michael Seater in an Instagram post in July 2021 (Michael Seater / Instagram)
Etobicoke, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Michael Seater studied at Etobicoke School of the Arts (ESA), a specialized public arts-academic high school located in the Etobicoke area of Toronto, Ontario.
Actor, Voice Actor, Director, Screenwriter, Producer
Siblings – Graham Seater (Older Brother) (Actor)
Others – Robert John Rennie Seater (Paternal Grandfather), Grace Marie Moyse (Paternal Grandmother)
Michael Seater has been signed with Noble Caplan Abrams, Talent Agency, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
According to CelebrityNetWorth.com, his net worth has been $2 Million.
Michael Seater as seen in a shirtless mirror selfie in June 2022 (Michael Seater / Instagram)
5 ft 11 in or 180.5 cm
Girlfriend / Boyfriend / Spouse
Michael Seater has dated –
Shadia Simmons (2007) – He had an affair with actor, teacher, and director Shadia Simmons in February 2007.
Fefe Dobson (2008-2010) – In January 2008, Michael Seater started going out with singer and songwriter Fefe Dobson. The duo dated for a while before calling it quits in August 2010.
Ashley Leggat (2010) – He reportedly hooked up with actor Ashley Leggat in March 2010. They have worked together on the television show Life with Derek.
Stacey Farber (2010) – In 2010, Michael Seater had a short-termed romance with actor Stacey Farber.
Michael Seater is of Scottish, English, and possibly around one-eighth Romanian descent.
Lean frame
Michael Seater as seen while taking a mirror selfie in March 2022 (Michael Seater / Instagram)
Michael Seater Favorite Things
Film – Grease (1978)
Source – IMDb
Michael Seater Facts
Michael uses he/him pronouns.
He grew up in Toronto, Ontario.
His parents are divorced.
Michael Seater brought to life the character of Bub Ryan (age 15) in the 2005 biographical film The Prize Winner of Defiance, Ohio. It stars Julianne Moore, Woody Harrelson, and Laura Dern.
From 2009 to 2017, he was cast in the recurring role of James Gillies in the mystery period crime drama series Murdoch Mysteries.
Alongside Bo Burnham, Gillian Jacobs, Tim Blake Nelson, Emily Meade, and Jeff Garlin, Michael Seater co-starred as Brian in the 2012 adventure comedy-drama film Adventures in the Sin Bin.
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During October and November 2015 Oxford Archaeology carried out a trial trench evaluation on land at Williams Holdings, Grove, Oxfordshire. The evaluation was commissioned by Strutt and Parker LLP on behalf of Williams Grand Prix Engineering Ltd. The earliest feature uncovered was a securely dated ditch of middle Bronze Age date. Other prehistoric ditches were present within the western part of the site and dated from the middle to late Iron Age. The majority of dated features however belonged to the later Roman period, and from the amount of finds recovered are likely to indicate that a small settlement, perhaps a farmstead, was present within the central part of the site. Additionally a pit and several ditches were dated to the medieval period (12th -14th century), and represent agricultural activity. Many of the features uncovered, the majority of which were ditches, remain undated. The amount of finds recovered dropped noticeably within the eastern part of the site, where a greater number of late medieval or post-medieval plough furrows were present.


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Following his National Football League career, John worked as a color commentator for the USA Network and was involved in the call of The Play in 1982, when Cal scored on the last play of the game to defeat Stanford 25-20.


Last year, Le Bon released a collaborative release with Tim Presley as DRINKS. She also produced and played on Deerhunter's new album Why Hasn't Everything Already Disappeared?, which was released in January. Her last solo album was 2016's Crab Day. Listen to "Daylight Matters" and check out the tracklist and cover art for Reward below.


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Depending on the number of leaves in your gutter, it may be easiest to put on a pair of heavy-duty gardening gloves, get on your ladder, and get rid of the leaves by hand. Doing this eliminates the use of bulky and heavy equipment, and if the number of leaves is minimal, it will take the least amount of time. We can't stress the gloves enough! Sometimes debris can be sharp or hazardous, so you're better safe than sorry.
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Your garden hose can be an effective tool to clean leaves out of your gutters this fall. There are attachments you can buy which streamline the process, but they are not necessary. Some attachments allow you to clean your gutters out from ground level. If you use one of these, make sure to check to see all of the leaves are gone afterwards, and get rid of the residual leaves by hand.
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Houndstooth fashion handbags can add a part of a trend to dress normal!
Houndstooth is a model, characterized by broken controls or abstract shapes with four points. E 'is traditionally done in black and white. Houndstooth can be found on objects from jackets to hats to even handbags. This is a back-print type which has been a return.
Ruche offers houndstooth bag A Fine Day.Made pony hair and burgundy leather fauz, this bag has hardware and a lot of gold-toned pockets to store your stuff.
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Wholesalers Dallas has 2 style handbag purse Black Houndstooth.It is made of brushed cotton and vinyl, making it easy to clean. It has a zipper and interior compartments to keep you organized.Wholesalers Dallas also Black Houndstooth Style 5 Purse. Have a kick external flap over the main compartment with zipper. It also has adjustable straps and a zipper compartment inside page with mobile case.
Houndstooth is a popular press for a vintage bag.
Houndstooth is a versatile fabric. It can be worn with many looks from jeans to dresses. A style tips is to choose only one item at a time houndstooth wear. Make your bag houndstooth be freestanding items you carry, and will stand out and make a fashion statement. A printed bag can dress up a simple dress and pull the look together in an elegant way.
Tired of your old work clothes, give them a new look with a fashion accessory, like a bag Dogtooth.Choose one in a color like red to accent your outfit.
Bring a bag Dogtooth when you wear a pair of jeans and a sweater usual.The ensemble will be simple but chic.
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Lighter Footprints: our mission
Jan 27, 2009 | Taking Action
These are the Key Strategies of Lighter Footprints.
1. Analyse opportunities and set clear priorities from our lists of projects.
Communicate them to our 'supporters'.
Research which groups are 'leading edge' in priority areas and join with them.
2. Contribute to the development of the coalition of climate groups ("convergence") in Victoria and then Australia.
3. Compile a skills inventory and consider which supplementary resources are needed and how to access them.
4. Use action plans to control projects and drive implementation.
5. Develop an extensive database.
Distribute a monthly LF e-newsletter.
Mount an active, attractive website.
Our Mission statement describes what we are setting out to achieve.
Lighter Footprints aims to influence national, State and local decision makers and Australian citizens to take action in priority focus areas to halt global warming as a matter of urgency.
Our 'Vision' is what we want the group to be like and to have achieved by 2010.
A six month action plan will outline projects and actions to be investigated for possible implementation that will take us towards achieving the vision.
Lighter Footprints is a local Climate Action Group which aims to be a leader in stimulating action to ensure a safe climate future, influencing a paradigm shift in the attitudes and opinions of the community and all levels of government. To do so it will construct links with the community, support the formation of new groups and be active in significant projects that are moving with urgency to prevent a global catastrophe.


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Drilling Underway for 24,000 Meter Program at Goliath's Extensive New High-Grade Gold-Silver Discovery in the Golden Triangle, B.C. – Yahoo Finance
Newly Discovered Surebet Zone & New Extension Target Highlights:
Fully funded 24,000 meter drilling campaign is underway totaling 85 holes from 24 separate drill pad locations with four diamond drill rigs.
The 2022 campaign will include resource level infill drilling as well as targeting the outer extremities of the known gold- silver zone down-dip to trace the extent of this extensive high grade system that remains open.
An accompanying infographic is available at:
https://www.globenewswire.com/NewsRoom/AttachmentNg/cae6ef0e-5738-4184-bf75-7d45fd0847dc
100% of all 24 holes drilled during the 2021 maiden campaign totalling 5,332 meters intersected significant widths of high-grade gold-silver mineralization over 1 km of strike and confirmed 1.1 km of down dip extent:
GD-21-03 intersected 6.37 gpt AuEq (4.46 gpt Au and 122.13 gpt Ag) over 35.72 meters*
The average grade and width from all 24 holes assayed 6.29 gpt AuEq (4.35 gpt Au and 104.94 gpt Ag) over 5.87 meters* respectively.
The Surebet Zone is part of a deep-rooted intrusion-related precious metals system that was formed at significant depth over 5 – 6 km below paleosurface indicating its likely extensive with excellent potential for expansion.
Exceptional metallurgical recoveries of 98.2% gold from gravity & flotation, inclusive of 38.1% free gold from gravity.
Maiden drill holes planned on the New Extension Target discovered in 2021 will provide tremendous potential to significantly expand the Surebet footprint by 1.2 km to the southeast.
https://www.globenewswire.com/NewsRoom/AttachmentNg/89364a4c-be66-47ad-8d3d-e56722b07dc4
TORONTO, June 08, 2022 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — Goliath Resources Limited (TSX-V: GOT) (OTCQB: GOTRF) (FSE: B4IF) (the "Company" or "Goliath") is pleased to report drilling has commenced for its planned 24,000 meters of drilling on its new and extensive high-grade gold-silver discovery at its 100% controlled Golddigger Project. The campaign is designed for resource level infill drilling as well as testing the outer extremities to depth at the newly discovered Surebet Zone. The property is on tide water and in a world class geological setting near Stewart, BC in the Golden Triangle of British Columbia. The Homestake Ridge Deposit & Dolly Varden Silver Mine (Dolly Varden Silver Corp.), and the Kinskuch Project (Hecla Mining Company) are in close proximity.
Goliath's 24,000 meter drill campaign totaling 85 holes from 24 separate drill pads will target the extensive high-grade gold-silver structure exposed at surface at the Surebet Zone along strike and to depth. The inaugural drill holes planned for the Extension Target just discovered in 2021 will provide tremendous potential to significantly expand the Surebet footprint by ~1.2 km to the southeast. The Surebet's maiden drill program in 2021 had a 100% hit ratio as all 24 holes totaling 5,332 meters intercepted significant widths of high-grade gold-silver over 1 km of strike and confirmed 1.1 km of down-dip extent. The average grade and width from all 24 holes are 6.29 gpt AuEq (4.35 gpt Au and 104.94 gpt Ag) over 5.87 meters* respectively.
Dr. Quinton Hennigh, Geologic/Technical Director to Crescat Capital, strategic shareholder of Goliath commented: "Goliath's team is off to a strong start diamond drilling at Surebet this year. This bodes well for the success of the very robust drill campaign the Company has planned this season. Not only does the company plan to systematically drill Surebet down dip 1.5 km, drilling will also test the New Extension target believed to be the down-faulted continuation of Surebet to the southeast. By the end of this season, the 2022 drill program will provide great clarity about the strength of continuity and grade of the Surebet Zone and also point to areas with potential for considerable growth."
Mr. Roger Rosmus, CEO of Goliath states: "We are extremely pleased that our drill program is now underway for an aggressive 24,000 meters at our newly discovered Surebet Zone. This newly discovered system has already demonstrated to be extensive and robust that is structurally controlled with a down-dip of 1.1 km that remains open. This project is in a geo-political safe jurisdiction amenable to mining in Canada and key geologic setting where many world-class deposits have been discovered. The Surebet Zone has the potential to be the next big discovery in the Golden Triangle. We look forward to reporting drilling results with much anticipation."
Golddigger Property
The Golddigger Property is 100 % controlled covering an area of 23,859 hectares (59,646 acres or 239 square-kilometers) and is in the world class geological setting of the Eskay Rift within the Golden Triangle, British Columbia and within 2 km of the Red Line that is host to multiple world class deposits. The property is on tide water 30 kilometers southeast of Stewart, British Columbia. The Homestake Ridge Deposit & Dolly Varden Silver Mine (Dolly Varden Silver Corp.), and the Kinskuch Project (Hecla Mining Company) are in close proximity.
Rein Turna, P. Geo, is the qualified person as defined by National Instrument 43-101, for Goliath Resources Ltd projects, and supervised the preparation of, and has reviewed and approved, the technical information in this release.
All rock, channel and talus fine samples were crushed and pulverized at MSALABS's laboratory in Terrace, BC. MSALABS is either Certified to ISO 9001:2008 or Accredited to ISO 17025:2005 in all of its locations. The resulting sample pulps were analyzed for gold by fire assay and metallic screen fire assay in Langley, BC. The pulps were also assayed using multi-element aqua regia digestion at MSALABS's laboratory in Langley, BC. The coarse reject portions of the rock samples, as well as the pulps, were shipped to Goliath Resources Ltd.'s storage facility in Terrace, BC. All samples were analyzed using MSALABS's assay procedure ICP-130, a 1:1:1 aqua regia digestion with inductively-coupled plasma atomic emission spectrometry (ICP-AES) or inductively-coupled plasma mass spectrometry (ICP-MS) finish for 35 elements as well as the FAS-121 lead collection fire assay fusion procedure with atomic absorption spectroscopy (AAS) finish. Any results greater than 100 ppm for silver or 10,000 ppm copper, lead and zinc were additionally assayed using MSALABS's ICA-6xx method particular to each element. This method used an HNO3-HCl digestion followed by ICP-AES (or titrimetric and gravimetric analysis). Gold values of greater than 10 ppm Au were assayed by the FAS-425 method which includes a fire-assay fusion procedure with a gravimetric finish. Samples with Au greater than 5 ppm were additionally analyzed using metallic screen fire assay with MSALABS's MSC-150 or MSC-350 method. QA/QC samples including blanks, standards, and duplicate samples were inserted regularly into the sample sequence.
The reader is cautioned that grab samples are spot samples which are typically, but not exclusively, constrained to mineralization. Grab samples are selective in nature and collected to determine the presence or absence of mineralization and are not intended to be representative of the material sampled.
About Goliath Resources Limited
Goliath Resources Limited is an explorer of precious metals projects in the prolific Golden Triangle of northwestern British Columbia and Abitibi Greenstone Belt of Quebec. All of its projects are in world class geological settings and geopolitical safe jurisdictions amenable to mining in Canada.
Goliath Resources Limited
Mr. Roger Rosmus
Tel: +1-416-488-2887 x222
www.goliathresourcesltd.com
* Widths are reported in drill core lengths and the true widths are not known. AuEq metal values are calculated using: Au 1792.60 USD/oz, Ag 23.13 USD/oz, Cu 4.37 USD/lbs, Pb 1.05 USD/lbs and Zn 1.52 USD/lbs on November 28, 2021. There is potential for economic recovery of gold, silver, copper, lead, and zinc from these occurrences based on other mining and exploration projects in the same Golden Triangle Mining Camp where Goliath's project is located such as the Homestake Ridge Gold Project (Auryn Resources Technical Report, Updated Mineral Resource Estimate and Preliminary Economic Assessment on the Homestake Ridge Gold Project, prepared by Minefill Services Inc. (Bothell, Washington), dated May 29, 2020. Here, AuEq values were calculated using 3-year running averages for metal price, and included provisions for metallurgical recoveries, treatment charges, refining costs, and transportation. Recoveries for Gold were 85.5%, Silver at 74.6%, Copper at 74.6% and Lead at 45.3%. It will be assumed that Zinc can be recovered with the Copper at the same recovery rate of 74.6%. The quoted reference of metallurgical recoveries is not from Goliath's Golddigger Project, Surebet Zone mineralization, and there is no guarantee that such recoveries will ever be achieved, unless detailed metallurgical work such as in a Feasibility Study can be eventually completed on the Golddigger Project.
Neither the TSX Venture Exchange nor its Regulation Services Provider (as that term is defined in the policies of the TSX Venture Exchange), nor the OTCQB Venture Market accepts responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release.
Certain statements contained in this press release constitute forward-looking information. These statements relate to future events or future performance. The use of any of the words "could", "intend", "expect", "believe", "will", "projected", "estimated" and similar expressions and statements relating to matters that are not historical facts are intended to identify forward-looking information and are based on Goliath's current belief or assumptions as to the outcome and timing of such future events. Actual future results may differ materially. In particular, this release contains forward-looking information relating to, among other things, the ability of Company to complete the financings and its ability to build value for its shareholders as it develops its mining properties. Various assumptions or factors are typically applied in drawing conclusions or making the forecasts or projections set out in forward-looking information. Those assumptions and factors are based on information currently available to Goliath. Although such statements are based on management's reasonable assumptions, there can be no assurance that the proposed transactions will occur, or that if the proposed transactions do occur, will be completed on the terms described above.
The forward-looking information contained in this release is made as of the date hereof and Goliath is not obligated to update or revise any forward-looking information, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by applicable securities laws. Because of the risks, uncertainties and assumptions contained herein, investors should not place undue reliance on forward-looking information. The foregoing statements expressly qualify any forward-looking information contained herein.
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Rudolf Bitzan (* 18. Mai 1872 in Wartenberg, Königreich Böhmen; † 22. November 1938 in Dresden) war ein deutsch-böhmischer Architekt, der ab 1903 in Dresden lebte und arbeitete. Seine Entwürfe sind dem geometrischen Jugendstil und der Reformarchitektur des frühen 20. Jahrhunderts zuzuordnen, teilweise zeigen sich auch neoklassizistische Anklänge. Seine Bauten sind sowohl in Nordböhmen als auch in Sachsen (in Freital und Dresden) und in der Oberlausitz zu finden.

Leben und Wirken

Sein Vater Josef Bitzan war Lehrer in Reichenberg (Liberec). Rudolf besuchte die Realschule und studierte von 1886 bis 1890 an der Staatsgewerbeschule in Reichenberg (spätere Střední průmyslová škola stavební – Sekundarschule für Bauwesen). Diese Schule wurde zeitgleich auch von den Architekten Gustav Jirsch (1871–1909), Josef Zasche (1871–1957) und Robert Hemmrich (1871–1946) besucht. Danach sammelte er praktische Erfahrungen im Baugeschäft von Wilhelm Stärze (1851–1902; Baumeister und Spezialist für technische Bauten) in Friedland (Frýdlant) und arbeitete ab 1897 als Baumeister.

Dann setzte er sein Studium an der Technischen Hochschule München unter den prominenten Architekten Gabriel von Seidl (1848–1913), Martin Dülfer (1852–1942) und Carl Hocheder (1854–1917) fort. Im Jahr 1902 absolvierte er ein Praktikum im Architekturbüro von Hermann Billing (1867–1946) in Freiburg im Breisgau.

Seit 1903 lebte er in Dresden und arbeitete zunächst im Architekturbüro von Schilling & Graebner und später im Architekturbüro von William Lossow und Hermann Viehweger (ab 1906 Lossow & Kühne), wo er als Hauptprojektant tätig war. Im Jahr 1906 arbeitete er an dem Wettbewerbsentwurf für den neuen Leipziger Hauptbahnhof mit, dabei kam es zum Streit mit William Lossow um die Urheberschaft für den mit einem von zwei 1. Preisen ausgezeichneten und später ausgeführten Entwurf.

1907 unternahm Bitzan eine Italienreise, die von der Gesellschaft zur Förderung deutscher Wissenschaft, Kunst und Literatur in Böhmen gefördert wurde. Danach eröffnete er sein eigenes Architekturbüro in Dresden im Haus Dürerplatz 15, später in der Marschallstraße 1 (Amalienplatz). Die Kreuzkirche in Görlitz stellte der Görlitzer Architekt Gerhard Röhr fertig, weil Bitzan bei Kriegsausbruch 1914 zum österreichischen Militär eingezogen wurde. Nach dem Ersten Weltkrieg baute er als selbständiger Architekt mehrere Wohn-, Geschäfts- und Verwaltungsgebäude in der 1921 neu gegründeten Stadt Freital. Er war zusammen mit Otto Wulle und Bruno Just auch am Bau der Siedlung Reick für die Heimstättengenossenschaft Dresden beteiligt.

Rudolf Bitzan unterhielt stets enge Beziehungen zur Reichenberger Region. Er war verheiratet mit Marie Bitzan, geb. Aigner († 10. Juni 1961), der Tochter des Bürgermeisters von Friedland (Böhmen), Anton Aigner (1844–1912).

Für die Dekoration seiner Bauten arbeitete er mit den Dresdner Künstlern Josef Goller (1868–1947), Alexander Baranowsky (1874–1941), Georg Türke (1884–1972), Rudolf Born (1882–1969) und Richard Guhr (1873–1956) zusammen.

Bitzan war Mitglied im Bund Deutscher Architekten und erhielt neben zahlreichen Auszeichnungen auch den österreichischen Staatspreis für Baukunst. Er starb am 22. November 1938 an einem Herzinfarkt. Seine Grabstätte ist nicht bekannt. Sein Nachlass befindet sich im Sächsischen Hauptstaatsarchiv Dresden. Darin enthalten ist auch der Schriftwechsel seiner Witwe mit dem DDR-Präsidenten Wilhelm Pieck wegen einer Witwenrente.

Rezeption

In der Fachwelt
Der Bauforscher Hans-Georg Lippert spricht davon, dass sich insbesondere in Bitzans Freitaler Gebäuden wilhelminischer Pathos mit den Idealen der Lebensreformbewegung vereinen. Er spricht von "gesteigerter Monumentalität".

In der Literatur
Der Vater des namensgebenden Protagonisten des Romans Winterbergs letzte Reise von Jaroslav Rudiš war Leiter des Liberecer Krematoriums, das Rudolf Bitzan geplant hatte. Der 99-jährige Wenzel Winterberg erwähnt Bitzan mehrmals. Er bezeichnet ihn als "besten Freund seines Vaters." Sein Vater habe gesagt: "Rudolf Bitzan war ein Genie". Bitzan sei "der schöpferische Vater vom Leipziger Hauptbahnhof" gewesen, dessen Name aber "von den Sachsen in Leipzig aus der Geschichte ausradiert" worden sei. Die Ritterstatue auf der linken Seite des Haupteingangs des Liberecer Krematoriums habe das Gesicht von Bitzan.

Werk

Bauten
 1908: Villa Thiele in Neugersdorf, Ernst-Thälmann-Straße 20
 1908: Büro- und Geschäftshaus für den Verlag der Zeitung Chemnitzer Neueste Nachrichten in Chemnitz, Annaberger Straße 24 (von Wenzel Bürger unter Mitarbeit von Rudolf Bitzan; mit starken Veränderungen erhalten)
 1909: Einbau eines Weinrestaurants im Souterrain des Kaffeehauses "Zum Posthorn" in Liberec (Reichenberg)
 1909–1910: Villa für Samuel Glück in Frýdlant (Friedland in Böhmen), Mládeže 907, ausgeführt durch Baumeister Rudolf Hampel (Friedland), jetzt Kinder- und Jugendhaus (unter Denkmalschutz ÚSKP-Nr. 101244)
 1911–1912: Wohnhaus des Unternehmens Möldner & Co. in Liberec-Kristiánov (Reichenberg-Christianstadt), Jablonecká 91/20
 1912: Villa für Otto Goltze in Liberec-Kristiánov (Reichenberg-Christianstadt), Jablonecká 7/22 (unter Denkmalschutz ÚSKP-Nr. 43952/5-5236)
 1912–1913: Villa Grüger in Frýdlant (Friedland in Böhmen), Baarova 930
 1913: Wasserspeicher der Stadt Frýdlant v Čechách (Friedland in Böhmen), Březinova
 1913–1916: evangelische Kreuzkirche in Görlitz, Erich-Mühsam-Straße
 1914: Geschäftshaus für Erich Funke in Görlitz, Demianiplatz 14
 1914–1915: Rathaus in Freital-Döhlen, Lutherstraße. Damals moderne Ausstattung mit Zentralheizung, Bürgermeisterwohnung mit Badewanne und Telefon und Korkdämmung im Dach. 2010 saniert. Auffälliger runder Turm mit acht Säulen und Kupferdach.
 1915–1917: Krematorium und Urnenhain in Liberec-Perštýn (Reichenberg-Birgstein), U. krematoria 460/7, Koautor: Karl Kerl (unter Denkmalschutz ÚSKP-Nr. 43953/5-5237)
 1920–1930: Siedlung Reick in Dresden-Reick (in Zusammenarbeit mit Schilling & Graebner)
 1920–1922: Werkssiedlung in Višňová (Böhmisch Weigsdorf), Nr. 127–132
 1920er Jahre: Villa für Josef Florian Ressel in Dolní Řasnice (Rückersdorf), Nr. 334
 1920er Jahre: Villa Schwarz in Raspenava (Raspenau), Fučíkova 436
 1921: Villa für Emil Simon in Hejnice (Haindorf), Lázeňská 463
 1921: Haus der Angestellten des Unternehmens P. A. Šlechta & Sohn in Lomnice nad Popelkou (Lomnitz an der Popelka), Bezručova 886 (unter Denkmalschutz ÚSKP-Nr. 102910)
 1923–1924: Sieger im Wettbewerb für die Stadtzentrumsplanung für Freital
 um 1923: Wohn- und Geschäftshaus der Allgemeinen Ortskrankenkasse in Freital, Dresdner Straße 203
 1924: Handels- und Gewerbeschule in Freital, Dresdner Straße 205
 1924: Neues Stadttheater Teplitz in Teplitz-Schönau (Teplice), später Erzgebirgisches Theater (Krušnohorské divadlo), U. Císařských lázní (in Zusammenarbeit mit Adolf Linnebach)
 1924: Verwaltungsgebäude der Nordböhmische Elektrizitätswerke AG (NEW) in Podmokly (Bodenbach), Teplická 8
 1926: Kino Olympia / Oko in Teplice (Teplitz), Masarykova třída 52 (Beim Bau des Kinos hatte der Architekt Max von Loos, der direkt daneben wohnte, Einwände bezüglich Dach und Bauhöhe des Gebäudes.)
 1920er Jahre: Umbau des "Hotel de Saxe" in Teplitz – Teplice, Masarykova třída 661/35
 1925–1926: Kino in Nový Bor (Haida), Smetanova 523, Eröffnung am 13. Nov. 1926, 1981 durch Brand zerstört, 1989 wieder hergestellt (nicht zu verwechseln mit dem Stadttheater Nový Bor von Richard Brosche)
 1926: Villa Bruno und Fanny Vogelov in Nový Bor (Haida), Smetanova 584
 1926: Haus R. Strache in Varnsdorf
 1926: Villa Geidel in Leipzig, Erlenstraße 1a, Wohn- und Wirkungsort des Kunstmalers und Illustrators Alfred Liebing und seiner Tochter, der Kunstmalerin Lotte Geidel-Liebing
 1927: Finanzamt in Freital, Dresdner Straße 207
 1927–1928: Wohn- und Geschäftshaus des Konsumvereins "Vorwärts" in Freital, Dresdner Straße 40–42
 1928: Stadthaus in Freital, Dresdner Straße 209 / Leßkestraße
 1928: multifunktionales Gebäude mit Kino "Saxinger" in Šumperk (Mährisch Schönberg)
 1930: Sudetendeutsches Volkshochschulheim (jetzt Studentenheim) in Liberec-Kristiánov (Reichenberg-Königsbuch), Králův háj
 1930: Denkmal für bedeutende Persönlichkeiten der Stadt Friedland (Frýdlant): Bürgermeister und Bankdirektor Heinrich Ehrlich, Museumsgründer Julius Kraus und Musiklehrer Franz Mohaupt; im Park bei der Heilig-Kreuz-Kirche
 1931: Volkshaus (Lidový dům) in Liberec (Reichenberg)

Entwürfe
 1902: Wettbewerbsentwurf für eine Realschule in Teplitz
 1903: Wettbewerbsentwurf für das Theater in Gablonz an der Neiße
 1906: Wettbewerbsentwurf für das Warenhaus der Leonhard Tietz AG in Düsseldorf
 1907: Wettbewerbsentwurf für das Stadttheater in Aussig
 1907: Wettbewerbsentwurf für das Rathaus in Döbeln
 um 1908: Wettbewerbsentwurf für das Gebäude der Handelskammer in Dresden
Bitzan beteiligte sich an verschiedenen weiteren Architektenwettbewerben, z. B. für den Hauptbahnhof Darmstadt, den Hauptbahnhof Karlsruhe, die Städtische Sparkasse in Rumburk, die Synagoge in Görlitz und die Bibliothek in Eger.

Galerie der ausgeführten Bauten

Literatur

 Jürgen Paul: Die evangelische Kreuzkirche in Görlitz und ihr Architekt Rudolf Bitzan. In: Nadja Horsch u. a. (Hrsg.): Kunst und Architektur in Mitteldeutschland. Thomas Topfstedt zum 65. Geburtstag. (= Leipziger Beiträge zur Kunstgeschichte. Band 6.) Plöttner, Leipzig 2012, ISBN 978-3-86211-055-1, S. 160–171.
 Jaroslav Zeman: S Rudolfem Bitzanem po Euroregionu Nisa. Mit Rudolf Bitzan durch die Euroregion Neiße. Stráž pod Ralskem / Städtische Museen Zittau, 2013. (tschechisch und deutsch)
 Lenka Fialová: Architonické typy v díle Rudolfa Bitzana. (deutsch: Architekturformen im Werk von Rudolf Bitzan) Palacky-Universität, Olomouc 2016.
 Jan Hanzlík, Jana Zajoncová, Lenka Hájková: Teplice – Architektura moderní doby. 1860–2000 (Teplitz: Architektur der modernen Zeit. 1860–2000). Národní památkový ústav, ÚOP Ústí nad Labem, 2016, 360 S., ISBN 978-80-85036-66-4.
 Michaela Zamazalová: Liberecké krematorium a osobnost architekta Rudolfa Bitzana (Das Reichenberger Krematorium und die Persönlichkeit des Architekten Rudolf Bitzan) (tschech.), Bachelorarbeit, Karls-Universität Prag, 2011, 76 S. (online als PDF; abgerufen am 24. Juni 2020)

Weblinks

 Bestand 12655 – Personennachlass Rudolf Bitzan im Hauptstaatsarchiv Dresden
 Bilder in der Fotothek

Einzelnachweise

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Subway Announcements from Around the World.
August 7, 2020 by languagehat 61 Comments
Bathrobe sent me these links, adding:
It's interesting to actually hear and savour the sound of these languages (rather than just stare at the written forms) as they are used in making announcements. Of course, the enunciation is much clearer than everyday conversation, which is nice if you don't know the languages.
Metro Announcements in European Languages: English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Occitan, Basque, Catalan, Portuguese, Dutch, Danish, Norwegian, Sweden, Finnish, Czech, Polish, Hungary, Romanian, Greek, Bulgarian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Russian. (The Czech "dveře se zavírají" brings back my happy visits to Prague.)
Various Europe metro announcements: Budapest, Vienna, Berlin, Paris, Oslo, Stockholm, Bucharest, Minsk, Prague, Barcelona, Rome.
Subway announcements from around the world: part 1, part 2 (European Edition), part 3 (European Extra Edition), part 4 (American Edition). As Bathrobe says, these are not as clear or well done; the transcriptions are often incorrect or missing, and Catalan is mistaken for Spanish. Furthermore, each comes with an annoying half-minute introduction. On the plus side, they show the trains.
Thanks, Bathrobe!
F says
LA's "Mantengase alejado, las puertas están por cerrar" is etched into my memory even though I never actually heard it clearly, the ending in my head was "porterán"
Joel says
Has anyone compiled a list of how many languages each city feels the need to include in its subway announcements? The announcements for each stop in the Nagoya subway system are given in Japanese, English, Chinese, Korean, and (at least during earlier visits) Portuguese, in that order. Gov't PSAs in Honolulu's TheBus often include Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Tagalog, Ilokano, and several Micronesian languages (the last often hampered by irregular orthographic standards).
I have lots of nostalgia for Japanese train announcements, and probably know them better than most other domains of language use.
ook says
There's a trend in China, Korea, Singapore, and some US cities to assign station letters and numbers.
For example, Eunos station in Singapore is EW7, the theory being that the city is crawling with helpless foreigners for whom "Eunos" would be impossibly complex but a random set of letters and numbers would be easy. In Japan they've taken to putting these numbers into the English versions of their announcements (but not any other languages).
Honestly, I really wish they would just shut off the announcements. Riding long-distance trains with no announcements in India, it was so nice not to get squawked at every 3 minutes. And somehow I managed to know where I was even in the dead of the night.
They rendezvoused in the rail terminal east of town, where at least a dozen tracks converged. The train tracks, coming in from secondary stations located at various points inland, dipped underground, passing along ancient tunnels cut from the bedrock and lined with flaking concrete. First the lines ran inward, like long spokes; then they bent, and lined up in parallel just as they reached the passenger hub, forty feet beneath the asphalt streets.
Heavy plate glass doors, which hummed and slid back whenever a human form or a gust of subterranean breeze passed near, separated pairs of tracks. There were few passengers present. The trains ran infrequently, and there was little reason to tarry at the station. But as Yarec and Ris traced their way cautiously, inconspicuously towards their outbound track, they were surrounded by voices. Scratchy voices, of conductors probably long dead, echoed off the slick tile walls. Their messages, announcing arrivals and departures hours or days ahead of time, overlapped to become an unintelligible morass.
On track nine… Arriving from Rand… Track six… At fourteen oh seven… The train from Stardhaven will be delayed until… Arriving from… Track change, please take notice… Nine forty-six…
Lars Mathiesen says
If the Danish one makes you doubt your hearing, it's husk at medbringe alle ejendele, not husk at tage alle Deres ejendele med as transcribed. The second one is perfectly cromulent and may well be an earlier or later version; tage med is actually a better pragmatic fit to the situation of leaving a train, but more colloquial than medbringe — on the other hand, it cannot sidestep the T/V distinction and it comes down on V. So both are a bit stilted in very different ways.
Jonathan Morse says
For Honolulu, with its special requirement of getting the Hawaiian street names right,
http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Honolulu-Magazine/March-2011/Voice-of-TheBus/
I could hold forth for at least, oh, 75 seconds* about the mangling of Copenhagen street names perpetrated by somebody's voice synthesis software. Which is installed in all the buses, to general annoyance. (Never mind that it ignores the Old Copenhagener shibboleths that used to keep the Jutes in their place).
(*) It gets old fast.
AJP Crown says
'Ere! German London Underground announcements (Victoria Line). They've translated all the station names. Ziegelstadt Brixton? Vauxhall is the best.
Although Kaninchengehegestrasse ist auch komisch.
"Ich finde es immer noch schade, dass die Viktoria-Linie nicht an Wassertoilette (Waterloo) hält, dafür aber an des Königs Kreuz."
husk at medbringe alle ejendele […] husk at tage alle Deres ejendele med
GT in fact recognizes the second one and renders it with an equivalent American English version "please remember to take your belongings with you", whereas the first it mangles into "remember to bring all belongings". This is completely wrong because of bring: it wants to be completed with "to your destination" or something, rather than the actual rest of the cliche "when leaving the train". The authorities don't give a damn where you bring your belongings to; you can heave them in the trash cans found in better train stations everywhere for all they care. What matters to them is that you take your belongings away from their train.
This distinction does not prevail in Hiberno-English, where (reflecting different verbs in Irish), take means only 'transfer possession', and everything else is bring. "Don't forget to bring your umbrella" can be used not only when speaking to your absent-minded friend before they visit, as elsewhere in the Anglosphere, but also just before their departure. On the other hand, "Hold my hand, I don't want anyone to take you" is cromulent from adult to child; I'd probably say "take you away" or "steal you".
GT is right here, that was exactly the bad pragmatics I alluded to. Medbringe is more like 'have along' — the focus is on having it during a journey (like an umbrella), or at the destination (beer), not on the act of taking them with you.
It may be a mangling of husk deres medbragte ejendele = 'remember the belongings you had with you' which would have been totally unremarkable in the PSA register when I was younger but feels a bit stuffy now.
I'm still not sure I have completely understood when to use llevar or traer, though.
Jongseong Park says
The Seoul Metro has added announcements in Mandarin Chinese and in Japanese in recent years to the existing ones in Korean and in English, but there are complaints about the usefulness of these announcements because the names of the stations are simply pronounced as in Korean for most stations.
You can listen to an example here for the station 고속터미널 Gosok Teomineol. The announcement in English gives the name of the station in English as "Express Bus Terminal", but those in Chinese and Japanese give the name in the original Korean pronunciation.
This wouldn't be very helpful for the average Chinese-speaking tourist who will be listening in vain for 高速巴士客运 Gāosù Bāshì Kèyùn. The Japanese-speaking tourist might fare better listening for 高速ターミナル Kōsoku Tāminaru, and katakana spellings of the stations that approximate the Korean pronunciation are available, but it is still jarring to hear largely unmodified Korean pronunciation in the Japanese announcement. To be fair, this also happens to the untranslated Korean names of stations in English announcements. Adjusting the pronunciation of Korean names to the phonology of other languages is still an unfamiliar concept to many Korean speakers.
Last I heard, they were testing pronouncing the station names as in Chinese for select stations, such as 강남 Gangnam which would be 江南 Jiāngnán in Chinese. Hopefully they will roll this out to the entire network so that the announcements can actually help Chinese-speaking tourists rather than being an empty display of how the city is becoming more international.
Interesting, and I agree with your hope!
Jen in Edinburgh says
Scotrail tell you to ensure that you have all your luggage and personal belongings with you before leaving the train, which is nonsensical – what they really want me to make sure of is that I still have everything with me *after* I've left it!
TR says
But it'll be too late to make sure of it then. Please ensure you have correctly resolved any PP attachment ambiguities when interpreting train announcements.
Michael Prytz says
Back in my dissolute days in Prague, it was my party trick to turn to the stranger sitting next to me at the bar and clearly enunciate "Ukončete výstup a nástup, dveře se zavírají". It cracked them up every time.
It was all the Czech I knew.
bertil says
This is a short example of the Riga tram announcements: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC9w90VxkWw
When I was in NYC last year, I was surprised to see posters in Haitian Creole about planned maintenance. It took me some time to figure out which language these notices were in.
Bathrobe says
What I remember from the Seoul Metro (how quickly these things fade) is the fact that station names were given in Korean, English, Chinese, and Japanese (note: Japanese last). Korean is, of course, in Hangul, no kanji. The Chinese is all in characters. The Japanese is a katakana transliteration of the Korean pronunciation.
I've never been to Gangnam Station, but Wikipedia tells me that it gives the following:
カンナム
What struck me is the Japanese. I interpreted the use of katakana rather than Chinese characters as the symptom of an extreme allergy to Korean names being given Japanese pronunciations, probably dating back to the colonial period when this was the norm. Make them pronounce names in Korean; don't let them pronounce them as though they were Japanese. The Koreans would rather have the Japanese puzzle over カンナム kannamu than have them pronounce it kōnan (the Japanese reading for 江南). But with the Chinese name right there and much easier to read than katakana, I wonder whether Japanese tourists etc. are now more likely to use kōnan than kannamu?
(It struck me, of course, because the English gave me the pronunciation while the Chinese characters told me the meaning of the name. I can read some Hangul so the Korean helped me confirm the pronunciation. The Japanese was virtually useless.)
English gave me the pronunciation while the Chinese characters told me the meaning of the name
Pronunciation of names is possibly of more use for a tourist but meaning (is Waterloo Wassertoilette or Schlachtfeld for battlefield?) is a lot more interesting.
in NYC last year, I was surprised to see posters in Haitian Creole about planned maintenance. It took me some time to figure out which language these notices were in.
Anything Frenchish on the NY subway would likely be for Haitians not French people. When I lived there, New York subway carriage advertising was (literally) only in the languages of poor people and usually about crime or STDs or diseases for which non-Europeans are at higher risk, like lupus. The transit authority stopped it in the end on the grounds that subway trips were already way too depressing, but it made me wonder why they thought white people only took taxis.
Here someone with a yearning for more German in their daily life has translated the entire London Underground map for no other apparent reason. And as a bonus for John & Language, here's a year-by-year picture of the folded New York subway map.
This is weird. The link to the German-language map took me to a forbidden-access page at: https://radarsubmissions.apple.com/tube/TfLSillyMaps/londonundergroundmapgerman.png
In order to access the page, I actually had to manually input the link as http://steveprentice.net/tube/TfLSillyMaps/german_map.jpg
I'm becoming increasingly disturbed by this kind of strange behaviour on the Internet. Why do links take you to somewhere other than you asked for?
Ah. I ought anyway to have credited http://www.steveprentice.net/tube/TfLSillyMaps/ where I found it, because he has some great maps. He also says at the top that there's a mirror site, so that might be a reason for any weirdness.
My dad took me to the World's Fair in '64; I wish I'd saved a copy of the map.
Bathrobe: Why do links take you to somewhere other than you asked for?
In my case, it's because I use UBlock Origin which blocks advertising and in combination with chrome 'Preferences' blocks dodgy sites. One negative consequence is that it sees LanguageHat and a few other quite reasonable sites as dodgy unless I tell it otherwise; I'll click on a site and my machine refuses to go there.
My dad took me to the World's Fair in '64
Lucky. I'd have loved that. It was peak World's Fair, all downhill thereafter. Expo 67 was ok if you like Moshe Safdie but it didn't have the technological range, afaik.
Athel Cornish-Bowden says
A few years ago I was driving from Munich airport on the way (not on the Autobahn) to the Chiemsee, and got a bit confused close to Wasserburg. I stopped at a garage where the attendant spoke little English (and I speak little German) but tried hard to be helpful. She told me to go into the centre of Water Castle and turn right. Water Castle? Ah, right, Wasserburg.
Bathrobe: I interpreted the use of katakana rather than Chinese characters as the symptom of an extreme allergy to Korean names being given Japanese pronunciations, probably dating back to the colonial period when this was the norm.
Interesting observation. My take is that both Korean and Japanese, having phonetic writing systems at their disposal, are moving more and more towards respecting the pronunciation of the names in the original language. Once upon a time, 伊藤博文 Itō Hirobumi and 豐臣秀吉 Toyotomi Hideyoshi would have been called 이등박문 Ideung Bakmun and 풍신수길 Pungsin Sugil respectively using the Sino-Korean readings of the characters. Now it is universal to follow the Japanese pronunciation and write them as 이토 히로부미 Ito Hirobumi and 도요토미 히데요시 Doyotomi Hideyosi respectively. Likewise, the name of the South Korean president Moon Jae-in (문재인 Mun Jae-in) is written in Japanese in 文在寅 using the Chinese characters but pronounced as ムン・ジェイン Mun Jein instead of the Sino-Japanese ぶん・ざいいん Bun Zaiin.
In my mind it's comparable to what has happened with European languages. Apart from some royals and religious figures, names of individuals are not translated to their equivalents but given in their original forms. Whereas Pierre, Pietro, Pedro and so forth might have been anglicized as Peter in the past, nowadays they are referred to in their original forms in English.
This is obviously more difficult for the Chinese languages that use the traditional writing system. In Chinese, they continue to pronounce both Korean and Japanese names according to the Chinese readings of the characters that make them up where these are available. This means that Moon Jae-in becomes Wén Zàiyín and Japan's Shinjo Abe (安倍晋三 Abe Shinzō) becomes Ānbèi Jìnsān.
There must be reasons of practicality as well. Some characters have multiple readings in Korean, and it isn't always obvious which one to choose. Japanese with its multiple kanji readings must face similar issues to an even greater degree. If Wikipedia is to be believed, the Seoul district named after the old East Gate 동대문 東大門 Dongdaemun has the Sino-Japanese reading とうだいもん Tōdaimon, but someone would have to explain to me the reason for the mix of Kan-on Tō and Go-on daimon. Maybe it's obvious in most cases for Japanese speakers, but it still introduces a source of error. Simply going by the pronunciation in the original language makes the conversion a lot simpler and unambiguous.
Of course, the etymology of certain names are obscured if only the pronunciations are given. But in the case of the Seoul Metro stations, the Chinese characters will be given (in their traditional form) as well in multilingual signage, so Japanese speakers can in practice see both the Chinese characters and the katakana rendering. So it is easy for them to figure out that Gangnam or kannamu is the Korean equivalent of the Japanese 江南 kōnan.
In recent visits to Japan I've noticed that Japanese names of foreign citizens of Japanese ancestry, like Alberto Fujimori or Isamu Noguchi are now written in katakana. (I wonder if Alberto has a Japanese middle name, as many people of Japanese ancestry do–or once did–in Hawai'i.) The ideological reason may be recognition that Japanese emigrants need not remain Japanese, either in cultural practices or national loyalties. But there's also a practical reason: the many-to-many relationship between the pronunciation and writing of Japanese names, especially given names. The kanji for Fujimori and Noguchi can be guessed with very little chance of error, but many other surnames are trickier, and many, many given names have huge potential for error.
@Joel: If the Web is to be believed, Fujimori's middle name is Kenya (Japanese, but not terribly common).
Interesting. His middle name appears in Japanese and Spanish Wikipedia, but not English, and his names and those of his wife and children are only in katakana in Japanese Wikipedia. I couldn't find Kan'ya in my old Japanese names dictionary, but managed to find a dozen ways to write it at a Japanese baby-naming site online.
Lars Mathiesen: I could hold forth for at least, oh, 75 seconds* about the mangling of Copenhagen street names perpetrated by somebody's voice synthesis software. Which is installed in all the buses, to general annoyance. (Never mind that it ignores the Old Copenhagener shibboleths that used to keep the Jutes in their place).
I wonder about the effect of the pronunciations used in these announcements in the case of names with variable pronunciations. The Seoul Metro stations 선릉 Seolleung (선 Seon + 릉 reung) is often pronounced as if written 선능 Seonneung by many if not most speakers of Standard Korean nowadays, but the announcements as well as the romanization use the prescriptive pronunciation.
An interesting case is that of the station 학여울 Hangnyeoul (학 Hak + 여울 yeoul). As a compound name, the semivowel y in the second element is supposed to turn into ny to be euphonious and the preceding k at the end of the first element automatically turns into the nasal ng. But while this n-insertion is still observed in familiar words like 색연필 saengnyeonpil (색 saek + 연필 yeonpil, "coloured pencil"), it is no longer automatic for many speakers in unfamiliar compounds (let alone when they don't catch that it is a compound name).
The station opened in 1993 and was named after 학탄 鶴灘 Haktan from old maps, with 灘 (which in this context refers to rapids) given the native Korean rendering 여울 yeoul. Hangnyeoul may have indeed been the original name of the stream, but it has not been in use for decades, so I don't think even long-time residents of the area would have been familiar with it. So this name usually ends up being pronounced as if written 하겨울 Hagyeoul, without the n-insertion. I myself might be pronouncing it that way if not for the romanization reminding me about the n-insertion.
Apparently, after the Korail announcements recently switched to a text-to-speech system instead of using human voice actors, they are using the pronunciation Hagyeoul. One bus line also uses this pronunciation. The katakana spelling used in the signage was ハギョウル Hagyouru based on this pronunciation. The Seoul Metropolitan Government issued a list of standard katakana renderings of Seoul place names, according to which ハンニョウル Hannyouru was correct, so they were supposed to replace the signage. I don't know if this has been done yet.
In Hong Kong, 銅鑼灣, the Chinese name for Causeway Bay, is pronounced in Cantonese either as Tung4lo4waan1 or Tung4lo4waan4. The original reading of 灣 is waan1, but this often changes to waan4 in certain place names, e.g. in 長沙灣 (Cheung Sha Wan), pronounced Coeng4saa1waan4. I seem to recall reading that the pronunciation Tung4lo4waan1 is more popular now for Causeway Bay because that is what the Hong Kong MTR announcements have opted for, but I have trouble finding this information again. I do see that the English Wikipedia gives for Tung4lo4waan1 for Causeway Bay station but Tung4lo4waan4 for Causeway Bay.
after the Korail announcements recently switched to a text-to-speech system instead of using human voice actors
Why do so many of these use text-to-speech systems? They sound unnatural and are annoying (surely not just to me); what was wrong with humans?
My take is that both Korean and Japanese, having phonetic writing systems at their disposal, are moving more and more towards respecting the pronunciation of the names in the original language.
This was at least partly politically driven. I had always felt that it wasn't necessarily because the Japanese preferred it that way, but that China (and perhaps Korea) put pressure on Japan to make it that way. However, this is only my perception.
Chinese don't seem to feel the same about this, perhaps because, as you implied, the they still haven't got a decent, non-obtrusive method of showing pronunciation in a hanzi text. Pinyin is highly obtrusive whereas the old bo po mo fo, which fits in reasonably well, has been phased out (except in Taiwan).
In fact, quadruple signage in Tokyo stations is fairly similar to that in Korea. Kanji on top; hiragana underneath to give the reading in Japanese; English towards the bottom; and Chinese and Korean in small lettering off to the right of the kanji (Chinese in simplified characters, Korean in hangul giving the pronunciation).
If you know the characters you will be able recognise the name anywhere, even on a Japanese-language map lacking indication of pronunciation. If you read the English, Japanese (kana), and Korean you'll know how to pronounce it.
Only the Chinese end up relying on Chinese characters alone, and have no idea how to pronounce it unless they can read the kana, Korean, or English.
what was wrong with humans?
Too expensive? Too much trouble to change or make later adjustments when needed?
In Mongolian banks etc., where people get a number and wait for it to be called, I think I've heard synthetic voice announcements ignore vowel harmony. So what should be neg-dugeer (no. 1), hoyor-dugaar (no. 2), gurav-dugaar (no. 3), döröv-dugeer (no. 4), etc., just becomes neg-dugaar (no. 1), hoyor-dugaar (no. 2), gurav-dugaar (no. 3), döröv-dugaar (no. 4) etc.
I guess those would be the excuses, but I can't believe it's that expensive, or that much trouble. Cheap bastards.
Bathrobe: This was at least partly politically driven.
When the current Loanword Transcription Rules (외래어 표기법 Oerae-eo Pyogibeop) for Korean were introduced in 1986, one of the most contentious points was the decision to write contemporary Chinese names (names of people active after the 1911 Chinese Revolution, or place names in use today) according to their pronunciation in Standard Mandarin. These were previously written according to their Sino-Korean readings. So 毛泽东/毛澤東 Máo Zédōng was now to be written 마오쩌둥 Mao Jjeodung instead of 모택동 Mo Taekdong.
This caused a lot of consternation at the time, but nowadays people seem used to it, not least because South Koreans are becoming less and less familiar with Chinese characters. South Koreans are more likely to encounter the romanized rendering Xi Jinping rather than 习近平/習近平, and most younger South Koreans would not know how to read the characters in Sino-Korean, so 시진핑 Si Jinping is easier than 습근평 Seup Geunpyeong. Ethnic Koreans in China on the other hand never stopped writing Chinese names according to Sino-Korean readings, as they are of course intimately familiar with Chinese characters.
I haven't seen any indication that this 1986 decision was political in nature or if there was any pressure from the Republic of China (South Korea hadn't normalized relations with the People's Republic yet at the time). But I have read that in recent decades, North Korea's treatment of Chinese names have changed from Sino-Korean readings to transcribing the Standard Mandarin pronunciation and back again according to the nature of Pyongyang's relationship with Beijing at the time.
For Japanese the situation must be different because Japanese speakers of course continue to use kanji and would find it much easier to use Sino-Japanese readings for Chinese and Korean names than for Koreans to use Sino-Korean readings for Chinese or Japanese names. So it definitely sounds plausible there was some external pressure to push Japanese towards phonetic renderings of native names.
One of the gripes that Koreans have is that during the Japanese colonial rule, native Korean place names were replaced by names written in Chinese characters for the ease of administration in Japanese. Some of the native names have now been revived, including of course 서울 Seoul which used to be known as 京城 Keijō in Japanese or Gyeongseong in Sino-Korean under Japanese rule.
I know that South Korea wanted Seoul to be written in Chinese as 首爾/首尔 Shǒu'ěr instead of the traditional 漢城/汉城 Hànchéng. The latter corresponds to Sino-Korean 한성 Hanseong which is confusingly also in use in Korean as an alternative name for the city, leading Chinese translations to conflate Seoul National University and Hansung University for example. 首爾/首尔 has now largely been adopted by Chinese speakers when referring to the modern city, I believe, though there must still be some resistance to it.
I'm not aware of South Korea making similar requests to Japan regarding the rendering of its place names, though it certainly sounds like something that could have happened. As I mentioned in a previous comment, the Seoul Metropolitan Government has published a list of standard renderings of Seoul place names in katakana. This doesn't mean that it requested Japan to follow its practice, but if it is using such renderings in the official signage, then it will of course influence what Japanese speakers will feel to be the preferred practice.
One major practical reason for using katakana for the Seoul Metro station names is that not all of them are Sino-Korean; some are native, like 뚝섬 Ttukseom, or hybrid, like 학여울 (鶴여울) Hangnyeoul. I see that in Chinese these names are translated as 纛島 Dàodǎo and 鶴灘 Hètān respectively, in the latter case using the original Chinese characters that the Korean name is based on. But in Japanese there is less of a reason to pronounce 纛島 and 鶴灘 as if they were Japanese names (Tokutō and Kakutan, I guess). So katakana トゥクソム Tukusomu and ハンニョウル Hannyouru it is. Maybe it would be fun to have hybrid translations like Tokushima or Kakuyouru, but it couldn't be done systematically.
Text-to-speech is techy posturing. It seems like public transportation systems, especially trains, have for a long time needed to give the image of being technologically cutting-edge.
The whole time I lived in Boston-Cambridge, around the turn of the millennium, the newer Red Line trains had artificial voices doing the announcements. They were perfectly pronounced, of course, but recognizably not quite human. The system was also clearly not amenable to modification; when they added an announcement for "Mass Eye and Ear Infirmary" to the arrival notice for "Charles/MGH; Mass General Hospital," it was recorded by a female employee with a strong Boston accent, making a grating contrast with the mellifluous artificial voice. I had a friend who interned for the MBTA one summer, who had heard stories at work about the voice system, but unfortunately, some of them were so obviously false that I had to conclude that everything he had to say about the matter must be considered unreliable.
I forgot to point out that some Seoul Metro station names are neither Sino-Korean or native Korean but of course loaned from other languages, principally English. 디지털미디어시티 Dijiteol Midieo Siti, "Digital Media City", is an example. In Chinese this is translated as 數碼媒體城/数码媒体城 Shùmǎ Méitǐ Chéng while Japanese renders it デジタルメディアシティ Dezitaru Media Shiti as expected from the original English.
Lars (the original one) says
@Jonseong Park: There are cases where the text-to-speech algorithm just gets it WRONG, and I don't think those will influence how people speak — what comes out is simply not Danish — and then there are cases where the 'proper' stress is not as expected from the spelling, at least for people of my generation, and there the algorithm usually sides with the young and the provincials. But they are already a majority, so maybe hearing it in the bus will speed up the process but it would happen anyway.
(There are a few streets where it's not just stress placement that is idiosyncratic relative to their spelling (devoicing, cluster simplification, vowel shortening, fancified spelling) but I don't remember hearing them in a bus so I don't know what happens there).
It's all just shibboleths to let the proper people recognize each other, so I won't be mourning their passing.
The change to automated voices using text-to-speech engines irks me because I often listen to the pronunciations of the station names used in the announcements as a guide to which pronunciations are correct or at least acceptable. I didn't know that Michel-Ange was pronounced as [mikɛlɑ̃ːʒ] in French until I heard the announcements for Michel-Ange – Auteuil in the Paris metro. Singapore's MRT is great for listening to the announcements in English, Mandarin Chinese, Malay, and Tamil, with the station names having diverse linguistic origins, like Tampines [ˈtæmpəniːz] and Outram [ˈuːtrəm].
TTS systems don't handle proper names very well, especially those with irregular pronunciations. I'll know not to trust the TTS announcements on the Copenhagen buses, then. I don't really remember if I took buses in Copenhagen during my last visit, and the previous visit when I do remember taking a bus was almost twenty years ago. But I would have been listening to the announcements for clues on how to pronounce these tricky Danish names.
TTS systems don't handle proper names very well, especially those with irregular pronunciations.
Exactly, and you'd think that would in and of itself preclude their use in transportation systems where proper names are a vital element (for Pete's sake).
I just traveled from Indiana to SE KY listening to a TTS system that pronounced "Hindman" as "Hinman" and "Mountain Pkwy" as "Mountain P'kwee."
I'm not a violent man, but I'm starting to have regrettable fantasies about what should happen to the people who put such systems in place.
Ben Tolley says
In the last few years, new buses with recorded announcements were introduced on some routes around the Black Country. The original announcements were by a female speaker with a good Black Country accent. For some reason, these deteriorated over time (I'm really not sure how they managed that – after a couple of years, you'd just get half the name of the stop, or there would be a sound, but it would be incomprehensible. It can't have been physical damage to the speakers, because some would be perfectly clear).
Then we got new ones, also recorded, but this time by in an RP accent. That in itself was rather a shame. But the new announcements, instead of giving just the name of the stop, included the the number of the bus route and the final destination: [route number] to [final destination]. The number, to and the destination must have been recorded separately; with the resulting odd timing and stress and an unreduced to, on my usual bus on the way to work, there was a cut-glass voice apparently going, 'One, two, Dudley! ', which made me dissolve in hysterical laughter the first time I heard it.
NYC transit (subways, buses, commuter trains) also records snippets and glues them together, so the pronunciations are right but the prosody is often wrong: "There's a train leaving at. Twelve. Twenty. P.M. On track. Five". On the other hand, "Please stand clear of the closing doors" is recorded as a block, and sounds fine, though it uses artificial stress: "PLEASE stand CLEAR of the CLOsing DOORS". (Which by the way is a perfectly good Germanic alliterative line, even if only one of the stressed words is Germanic.)
The voices are done by voice actors, radio announcers, and random MTA employees on a volunteer basis. The MTA looks for people who can speak clearly, but a lightweight NYC accent is not a problem: indeed, it may be an advantage. On the other hand, at least one announcer is English, and learned his American accent by listening to the radio.
Women's voices are used for advisories; men's voices for commands (which are usually "Please" + imperative). Tests show this to be the most effective scheme.
I had a friend who interned for the MBTA one summer, who had heard stories at work about the voice system, but unfortunately, some of them were so obviously false that I had to conclude that everything he had to say about the matter must be considered unreliable.
Sounds like the margin isn't big enough for the proof, Brett. Give us one story. I like that Boston accent.
Ooooh. Reinforcing stereotypes. I'm surprised they can get away with that in New York.
New Yorkers have the greatest respect for what works.
Yes, if you want adherence to principle go to Portland.
The only one that I can't stop noticing is when the otherwise pretty good Danish voice on Google Maps navigation needs to pronounce ◯4s — (motor) ring four south. Somebody conflated ◯ with O or didn't keep the OCR from doing it, as the case may be, and then another rule cuts in that should have been special cased away. The result is O fire sekunder instead of the Ring fire syd that you are trying to get onto
So now I run with Waze with the Mexican male voice, just for fun. At least he knows better than trying to pronounce road names.
"PLEASE stand CLEAR of the CLOsing DOORS".
Best sung to the tune of Il est né, le divin enfant.
Andrew Dunbar says
I came eager to re-hear the announcements from Tbilisi and Taipei after very different lengths of time away… Oh well
You can find announcements from many subway systems on the internet. Here is a video of the Taipei Metro announcements. I remember enjoying listening to the announcements in Mandarin, English, Taiwanese Hokkien, and Hakka on the Taipei Metro and buses.
Alon Lischinsky says
@Lars Mathiesen:
Could you give an example of a confusing case? The way I see it, the contrast between llevar and traer is a pretty straightforward one of motion away from the speaker vs motion towards the speaker; you don't get cases where the deictic centre is shifted towards the agent instead of the speaker, as in this instance of "he brought some friends along [to the recruiting station]". In Spanish that would only be a felicitous phrasing if the author of the phrase had been in the recruiting station at the time of events or of composition.
@Alon,
The most salient distinction in Danish is between hente = 'fetch' and tage med = 'take/bring' (formerly bringe) — the point is whether you have to go somewhere to get hold of whatever, not whether it will end up where the speech act happens. And then, as you say, the viewpoint in Spanish is the speaker's, not the actor's, that probably confuses me as well.
I have no Danish, but if those work roughly like Swedish hämta and ta med, there will be lots of cases where an idiomatic Spanish translation would not use either llevar or traer: "på svenska apotek kan du hämta läkemedel trygg" would be best translated with "recoger"
Thanks, Alon.
Trond Engen says
Alon: "på svenska apotek kan du hämta läkemedel trygg"
"tryggt"
(Neuter as adverbal form.)
Edit: Double g in Swedish.