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The 2012 superhero epic about Batman's struggle to overcome the terrorist leader Bane, as well as his own inner demons.
Robbman
Joined: November 2009
The biggest criticism I have for the criticism this film is getting, seem to over issues of what's faithful to the comics, particularly when you consider the ending. But I don't think that's very fair. Nolan didn't set out to adapt a particular comic book story. This was his take on the character, in film. Because it's a film adaptation, he wisely chose to have a self contained story and tell it as it best fits this medium. He did the exact same thing with The Prestige. That movie and the book have some very stark differences, and all feel completely appropriate and are very well executed.
He had an opportunity to do what comics generally don't do.. tell a self contained Batman story that covers the character's 'career'... and that's how this movie should be judged. In that respect, he succeeded very well.
I've also said over and over how I believe TDK is a better film and that still stands.. but it's also not a fair comparison. This movie is very different and rightfully so. But more than that it was the logical progression from TDK, and attempting to only 'one-up' the unique aspects of that film would only degrade them both. Nolan took that literally by not even mentioning Heath's character... but the bottom line is that this film, despite its flaws, doesn't feel like the wrong direction, doesn't feel like the wrong ending, doesn't feel like it should be very different from what it is.
Side note - Kevin Smith (Clerks, Chasing Amy) has two excellent podcasts on his experience with the movie. I highly recommend you check them out.
August 1st, 2012, 8:50 pm
NolanFanIsIncepted
After watching for the second time last night and previously viewed both Begins today and The Dark Knight a few days before to freshen my memory before I saw Rises, I can honestly say that without a doubt that Rises has surpass The Dark Knight. OK, on with my review.
When you think of the word "epic", what's the first thing that comes to mind? Well, if you're like me, you'll probably say Avengers or even Titanic. But in those terms, it only used loosely. But when you watch The Dark Knight Rises, it's truly fits the mold of the term "epic" in every way possible from exhilarating prologue of Bane's escape from the airplane, overall tone, the parallels with Begins, Bruce Wayne battling the inner turmoil of pain of losing Rachel along with the physical and psychological damage from being Batman over the years and not living life, the quieter moments between Wayne and Alfred, the climatic showdown at the end, and the first encounter between Batman and Bane, and the ending.
For me, the film wasn't really about Batman per say although he was the main character. In my eyes, it was the conclusion of Bruce Wayne journey that began in Begins to his fall in The Dark Knight to ultimately his rising up in Rises. In the beginning, he's the former half shell of the man whom he once was before plunging himself into the darkness persona that is Batman and never allowed himself to move past the pain of losing Rachel, the woman whom was going to wait for him when the day came that Gotham City no longer needed Batman. As Alfred once mentioned, he gave up the cape and cowl, but simply didn't live the life that he should be living. So, he kept holding onto that pain until things in Gotham became worse again. Christian Bale gives one of the best performances in the trilogy from feeling completely hopelessness and defenseless while watching his beloved city collapse under Bane's control and dealing with everything that he has endure over the last years from losing Rachel to having to go on the run as Batman from the police. It took a tremendous toll on him, not only physically, but psychologically as well.
I was very touched and moved by Michael Cain as Alfred. To me, he's the heart and soul of these films besides Oldman as Gordon. The pain that he conveys with his eyes and his dialogue with Bruce about Rachel choosing Dent to trying to make him understand that there's more to life besides being Batman. I wanted to cry when he delivered the emotional parts of the film because you as the viewer truly do feel for him trying to bring Bruce away from the bleakness of being consumed with Batman to embracing life in the lightness. Gary Oldman perfectly expresses the guilt and the huge weight of living a lie and it shows in Oldman's performance. The world in pretty much on his shoulders of having to not only live this terrible lie, but it also came at a personal cost as well.
I now see a bit of a younger Gordon in Joseph-Gordon Levitt performance as John Blake, it's reminds of Begins in a sense that Gordon started out as a idealist good cop in a corrupted city with a bit of Wayne in him due to being a orphan at a young age much like Bruce was at the beginning of Begins. As far as Blake's character arc was concerned, I think his the most important one in the film besides Bruce. I really like how Foley started out a man whom clearly distrusted Batman, but by the end of the film, he unwillingly gives his life as a real hero. Hathaway was absolutely spellbinding as Selina Kyle with the right amount of slyness and sexiness the iconic character thought she completely makes it her own.
With Tom Hardy as Bane, he was such an great villain. Not only was he was incredibly smart with his plans for Gotham, but he was also a fierce brute of a force to be reckoned with. The fight scene between him and Batman in the sewers was brutal, but also mesmerizing at the same time. Of all the villains (Joker aside, of course), Bane is the most toughest foe that Batman has ever faced. He basically outmatches Batman in terms of strength and intelligence. I loved how he was trained by the League of Shadows especially the line where he tells Bruce that he used darkness as his ally and how the shadows belong to him. On the first viewing, I thought his death scene was pretty weak considering that he beats the living daylights out of Batman in their first encounter. But on the second viewing, it makes sense for him to die at the hands of Catwoman because if a canon shot from the batpod is needed to take him out, then it really shows how much of a beast Bane really was with his plan on liberating Gotham through violence much like Ra Al Gaul tried to accomplish in Begins even though Batman defended him by that point in the film. A lot of Hardy's performance as Bane was really conveyed through his eyes and mannerisms from the way he held the collar of his coat to his walk. It was frightening, yet scary at the same time along with the humanity in his connection with Talia.
Cotillard (Talia aka Miranda Tate) didn't really impressed me too much on the first viewing. However, my opinion of her has changed on the second outing. I thought that it was interesting how she infiltrated Wayne Enterprises to develop the project and getting closer to Bruce, only to betray him near the end. It really mirrors Liam Nesson's. The cinematography was brilliantly done. The score from Hans Zimmer had a few themes merging from Begins and TDK, but also complete reinvented it into a new direction. I think Rises is probably one of the best tracks from the soundtrack. The editing flow seamlessly from one scene to another, but never felt not out of place. It just went along nicely. Not only The Dark Knight Rises is a amazing film, it also connects to our world that we live in today with terrorism and the thin line between the wealthy and the middle classes of society. When you view each film in this remarkable trilogy, it's one concise storyline with a beginning, a middle, and a end. Even though each film is different from each other (except from The Dark Knight, which is more of a standalone chapter), they're all interconnected in some ways, but it doesn't get too bogged down with endless plot threads or missing pieces that seem to plague most film trilogies. I plan on watching this a good 3 more times since it's one of the best films I had seen this year. To Nolan, I want to say thank you for beginning the remarkable story of Bruce Wayne/Batman to a fitting end. Sure, the task was hard, but you pulled it off effortlessly with such grace. 10/10 for me.
August 2nd, 2012, 3:19 am
m4st4
Can someone explain to me how can I see this movie three times now, sit in front of my computer and, upon seeing the poster, immediately think how the best possible thing to do next week would be to see it for the 4th time? Insanity.
And I got the shivers on two totally different parts this time, thanks to Caine and Hathaway.
August 2nd, 2012, 8:44 pm
ComptonTerry
Location: Boston, Taxachusetts.
m4st4 wrote: Can someone explain to me how can I see this movie three times now, sit in front of my computer and, upon seeing the poster, immediately think how the best possible thing to do next week would be to see it for the 4th time? Insanity.
Dying to see it my fourth time next week IN IMAX.
Rashed801
Long time lurker.. Way before the movie came out, enjoyed reading all your posts
i personally have seen this movie only once, but i need too see it a few more times before i rate this movie. I don't think its better than TDK, but i will have to wait and see after my 1st viewing. Ill give my review ones i see the movie a 2nd time over this weekend.
I wanted to post something about the criticism this movie is getting, because i think none of us have even touched on this topic.
The soul reason why i believe lot of people are disappointed in TDKR or have serious criticism towards it is because one plain reason in my opinion... and that's the movie INCEPTION.
When INCEPTION came out.. people became wayyy too over-analytical because Inception was a type of a movie that required us to do that in order fully understand and appreciate the movie. We were looking at the tiniest detail like Leo's ring, or what clothes they were wearing, or what each scene meant, or how many wrinkles Saito had. I think Nolan should have released Inception after TDKR... because of Inception, we are looking into every close-super-tiny-detail about TDKR, that we are forgetting that this is a comic-book movie, and that "plot holes" as you may call it, do exist in these types of genres, he cannot show every tiny detail in a super-hero movie. TDK also had major plot holes, but we didn't discuss them because they were completely over-shadowed by Heath Ledger's performance.. and we warent THAT analytical of his movies because Inception didn't come out yet. Most of us kinda thought TDKR would be the type of a movie Inception was.. hence we are seeing so many issues/flaws in the movie that we don't have an answer for them, where as Inception did have an answer for all of them when we looked through the magnifying glass and studied the movie like no other. So i honestly think most of us are very biased towards this movie because of Nolan's Inception.
Just wanted to let you guys know what i think
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Valmont103
Joined: October 2011
Seen it 7 times. 8th and 9th this weekend. Saw TDK 10 times. So gonna match it with TDKR. Only in IMAX at Lincoln Square in NYC. Have to say the first time I saw it, which was a Thursday midnight, left me too overwhelmed to really be able to decide anything about the film. Over the course of the other viewings I just fell more and more in love with it. That it ended with the conclusion I had hoped for, but never dreamed possible, added to my joy. Others have talked about all the reasons why I love it. Hathaway and Bale. Their performances and incredible chemistry. Caine, Oldman, Freeman, and Levitt. Hardy and what he accomplished while wearing a mask. Pfister's photography. Zimmer's score. The Nolan brother's script. And really what Nolan has accomplished with this trilogy. Because at the end of the day I view all three films as one long narrative story told in three parts. So yeah, I loved TDKR. And cannot wait to seat down to watch it again.
Valmont103 wrote: Seen it 7 times. 8th and 9th this weekend. Saw TDK 10 times. So gonna match it with TDKR. Only in IMAX at Lincoln Square in NYC. Have to say the first time I saw it, which was a Thursday midnight, left me too overwhelmed to really be able to decide anything about the film. Over the course of the other viewings I just fell more and more in love with it. That it ended with the conclusion I had hoped for, but never dreamed possible, added to my joy. Others have talked about all the reasons why I love it. Hathaway and Bale. Their performances and incredible chemistry. Caine, Oldman, Freeman, and Levitt. Hardy and what he accomplished while wearing a mask. Pfister's photography. Zimmer's score. The Nolan brother's script. And really what Nolan has accomplished with this trilogy. Because at the end of the day I view all three films as one long narrative story told in three parts. So yeah, I loved TDKR. And cannot wait to seat down to watch it again.
Perfect post!!!!!
The bald part is EXACTLY how I feel about it, that's why I feel so emotional about it and think there couldn't have been a better conclusion to the trilogy
August 3rd, 2012, 1:46 pm
Addicted2Movies
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I will write a more elaborate and complete full length review once I've seen it a second time...but I can't help waiting anymore on giving my impressions of this film. It is of magnificent scale and is my personal favorite of the trilogy while being perhaps the technically weakest. However, Nolan's astounding ambition and the film's incredibly emotional story elevate TDKR above its flaws to remarkable heights.
dafox
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I keep procrastinating on this so I'll just post a brief one
I used to like Batman Begins the best but The Dark Knight crushed it once I caught on. Hopefully this movie will grow on me like The Dark Knight and become the best of the three for me.
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Video Review: The Veronicas "Take Me On The Floor"
April 6, 2019 March 30, 2019 / by Pam Avoledo
In a royal blue lit club, people dance. Lisa clutches an tangerine lit bar.
Lit in red, two young women dance in silhouette.
Jessica walks towards the dance floor.
Lisa and Jessica stand against a cobalt painted wall of speakers.
A young man spots Jessica in the crowd and walks towards her.
Jessica stands against a sign with Chinese scrawled on it.
A young woman checks out the young man while he waits for Jessica. By the scarlet red lit brick, Jessica kisses the young man. Two women kiss by the brick wall. Jessica and the young man dance.
Jessica and Lisa do shots at the bar. Lisa points out a young man to her sister. Jessica comments that he's okay but she needs a bit more. Lisa says she spots a cute young woman. Jessica hollers and claps, saying she didn't know her sister had it in her. She tells Lisa to make her move.
She watches Lisa approach the woman and chat. A young man stands next to her and tells her she's pretty. Jessica flips her hair and grins at him. The young man buys her a drink and asks her what she does. She says gestures with her hand, answering "this." She adds that she really doesn't want to know what he does for a living. They can skip the polite conversation. He asks if she wants to dance.
While they dance, she rubs against him and whispers to him if he wants to get out of there. He says yes. She texts her sister and leaves with him in a cab.
Lisa kisses the young woman. The young woman brushes a strand of hair away from her face. Lisa says she can't do it and walks away. She orders several more drinks at the bar. The bartender tells her he's cutting her off. She stands in the corner and stares at the people continuing to dance. She stumbles out of the door and texts her ex-boyfriend to pick her up.
Director: N/A Year: 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEiGbXvF_Rw
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Q: C++ , 'time' was not declared in this scope, without reason I'm building an Arduino sketch and I'm stuck with a strange error:

'time' was not declared in this scope

These are my includes:
#include <ESP8266HTTPClient.h>
#include <ESP8266WiFi.h>
#include <time.h>
#include <DS3232RTC.h> //http://github.com/JChristensen/DS3232RTC
#include <Streaming.h> //http://arduiniana.org/libraries/streaming/
#include <Time.h> //http://playground.arduino.cc/Code/Time
#include <Wire.h> //http://arduino.cc/en/Reference/Wire
#include <TimeLib.h>

And this is the function where I get the error:
void wifiTimeSetup() {
  configTime(timezone * 3600, 0, "pool.ntp.org", "time.nist.gov");
  Serial.println("Mi sto collegando al servizio per l'ora esatta tramite internet");
  while (!time(nullptr)) {
    Serial.print(".");
    delay(1000);
  }
  Serial.println("");
}

The error comes up when including the Time.h and TimeLib.h libraries, but I need them too, to use my RTC module.

A: Including both time.h and Time.h is generally not a good idea.
This is due to case sensitivity or insensitivity of the compiler your'e working
with.
Apparently this conflict was already posted as a known issue:
https://github.com/PaulStoffregen/Time/issues/74

Some Arduino users are trying to use this library with libraries like RTCZero that #include  on case sensitive filesystems like macOS and older Windows. Here's a related issue: arduino-libraries/RTCZero#28
  The compiler ends up including Time.h instead of the POSIX time.h inside the RTCZero library which causes compile errors. Would you be open to renaming Time.h in the library to avoid conflicts?

A: I'm using  #include "time.h"
Updating the Time library fixed my problem.

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The development and history of Tenterden has been determined largely by the wool industry, ship building and the grant of a Charter of Incorporation by Henry VI in 1449. This gave the townsmen many privileges, among them the right to choose of themselves a Bailiff and commonalty.
It is therefore not difficult to assume that a regular meeting place was established where the administration and courts could be held, and an early reference is made to a Court Hall.
In 1509 Thomasino Piers left 3s 4d, by will, to repair the footway between the house of Hugh Parker and the Court Hall, but no indication was given as to where the Court Hall was located.
A new Charter was granted to the town by Queen Elizabeth I in 1600, after which the post of Bailiff was advanced to Mayor.
On 19th March 1661 Richard Burden, a freeman of the town and carrier by trade, was confined to prison for debt. He set fire to the place by which means the Court Hall was burnt down and many valuable records, including the Charters, were destroyed.
Meetings of the Corporation were held in April and May 1661 at which orders were made for a new Court Hall to be erected. A town scot was levied to pay for the rebuilding, including an order that the old timber from the Court House gaol and market cross could be used if needed, but no record has been found to evidence that a replacement was built.
By September 1661 the gaol had been built on a new site in the High Street close to the end of Church Road. There being no Court Hall, the Corporation held its meetings at various places, at first under a certain oak tree nearby, sometimes at the Mayor's house, but also at the Angel (1661), the Queens Arms (1694-1708), The George, White Lion and the Woolpack (1749) public houses.
The present Town Hall was erected in the period 1790-1792. In 1790 the adjoining inn, the Woolpack, together with the yard and garden adjoining the vicarage was the estate of John Samson and in his occupation. The Mayor and Corporation had at their proper costs taken down several old and decayed buildings adjoining the Woolpack, and erected diverse buildings on the site of those buildings taken down and expended the sum of £1000 [over £100,000 in today's money] and upwards.
It was agreed with the Mayor, Richard Curteis, that new buildings when erected would be leased back to the Mayor and Corporation for 999 years at a peppercorn rent.
Three chambers above the Guildhall or Town Hall together with a lobby and stairs.
Access was to be made through a gateway and a small part of the yard of the inn. The Royal Coat of Arms, which today hangs above the fireplace in the Assembly Room, dates from 1792.
By present day standards there were a number of unusual conditions forming part of the lease, including provision for John Samson, his heirs and assigns to use the Guildhall, Grand Jury Room and chambers to entertain His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury together with any Bishop, Clergy and Company at his Grace's or Lordship's visitation or confirmation at Tenterden. Indeed, various Archbishops undertook visitations to Tenterden and stayed at the Woolpack.
In addition, the Grand Jury Room could be used for the entertaining therein respectable guests and companies coming to and stopping at the inn and for no other purpose (provided that the Grand Jury Room was not required for any jury or witnesses attending the court) without paying anything for its use.
The three chambers over the Guildhall could be used by John Samson as lodging and sleeping rooms for decent, sober and clean guests and customers of the inn not being soldiers or their families. The chambers could not be used as a dwelling, habitation or for the storage of a comprehensive range of goods and products. The occupants were not to annoy or interrupt the Mayor, Jurats or Commoners in their full and free use and enjoyment of the Guildhall.
These arrangements were confirmed by an indenture dated 5th day of April 1792 made between John Samson and Richard Finch on the one part and Richard Curteis Mayor and the Jurats and Commoners and other inhabitants of the Town and Hundred of Tenterden on the other part.
In May 1862 the Watch Committee of the Corporation was instructed to consider "the best mode of lighting the Hall" at a cost not to exceed £45 [approximately £3,750 in today's money]. Such lights were to replace the chandeliers. By 10th November that year the bill of Messrs Francis for the installation of "sun lights" was authorised to be paid.
This arrangement continued until the evening of Monday 15th September 1879 when a fire occurred following a marionette show held in the Town Hall. This destroyed the ceiling and roof. The Kentish Express suggested that the fire had originated around one of the "sun light" gas lamp fittings which had been installed some years earlier.
The Town Clerk ascertain if the rooms over the Town Hall may be dispensed with.
On 2nd October 1879 the next regular monthly meeting of the Council held at the Town Clerk's office resolved "the Town Council take control of the Fire Engines". However, it was felt that it was inexpedient to expend a large sum in the repairs of the old engines, but that the engine and appliances recommended by Shand and Mason, as stated in their letter, be purchased by the Council at the total cost of ninety-eight pounds ten shillings [£8945 in today's money]. It was further resolved the new Fire Engine when purchased be placed in the Market House.
Again the Town Clerk was asked to apply to Arrowsmith Bros. as to whether they would give up the use of the rooms over the Town Hall.
By 10th November 1879 the Town Clerk reported the insurance claim had been paid and on 18th December tenders for the rebuilding work were deferred until Messrs Arrowsmith's reply was to hand.
Mr. J. W. Arrowsmith attended this meeting and consented to the three chambers above the Court Hall being done away with, the Council on their part assuring him that the use of the Court Hall as heretofore used, with the consent of the Mayor for the time being, would not be withheld.
Confirmation by letter of 30th December 1879 from Messrs Arrowsmith was received that they formally agreed to relinquish the rooms over the Town Hall and accordingly on 1st January 1880 the Town Council agreed to accept the quotation from Mr. Warrington in the sum of £324.16.0 [£28,880 in today's money] provided the Town Clerk was satisfied the same included a new floor.
In April 1880 it was agreed the means of lighting for the Town Hall was to be by eight "star lights" with the gas meter being placed in the Grand Jury Room.
Also in early 1880 plans were considered for a new entrance to be made to the Town Hall. In May a petition was lodged by the Tradesmen of the Borough objecting to the fixed portico over the pavement. The following month a revised estimate for this work amounting to £160.6.9 [£14,250 in today's money] was accepted. A lavatory was also to be constructed at a cost not exceeding £30 [£2,667 today].
The first meeting of the Council to be held in the Town Hall, following the fire, took place on 9th November 1880.
On 14th May 1881, to avoid litigation, the Council agreed to pay Mr. Warrington £269.14.3 [£23,980 today] less £17.17.0 [£1,587 today] paid to Messrs Wells and Co. for iron works and £35.15.6 [£3,181 today] due to Mr. Elliott.
The addition of the balcony, at a cost of £130 [£11,560 today] had to wait until May 1912 for approval.
In the 1920s the Mayor and Corporation began to resolve the complex arrangements whereby the Town Hall (Assembly Room) was partially located over a store of the Woolpack Inn and the owner of the inn had rights of use of both the Grand Jury Room and the Town Hall.
On 4th February 1922 Harry Judge, Alderman and Justice of the Peace for Tenterden, who was owner of the Woolpack Inn, entered into an agreement to (a) convert the lease of 999 years into a fee sample, and to (b) relinquish all privileges of the owner for the time being of the Woolpack Inn with regard to use and access to the Grand Jury Room and Town Hall.
On 6th February 1922 Harry Judge entered into a second agreement with the Mayor, Aldermen and Councillors to convey to the corporation (a) the rooms under the northern part of the Town Hall, and (b) the stable to the north of those rooms together with a right of way. This agreement also made provision for the doorway between the Town Hall and the Woolpack Inn to be permanently closed and blocked by the vendor his heirs or assigns should they so desire.
The period of consolidation was concluded on 23rd October 1925 by the purchase by the Corporation of Tenterden of the Commercial or Coffee Room on the ground floor and the card room on the first floor immediately above the Commercial/Coffee Room together with the roadway under the arch to the west of it and adjacent land all for the sum of £600 [£30,560 in today's money].
An extension to the Town Hall was made in 1936. On the ground floor it consisted of the Town Clerk's office and the two rooms to the north, and on the first floor a stage and kitchen were added.
More recently the Tenterden Trust aided the restoration of the Assembly Room in 1973. At this time a Venetian window designed by Frederick MacManus ARIBA was installed by H. W. Wiggins & Sons in 1973 at a cost of £682 [£7,366 in today's money]. In addition, over £200 [£2,160 today] was spent on improvements, lighting and decoration. The fender for the fireplace was designed by W. Ironside.
In the Assembly Room a board records all of the Bailiffs and Mayors from 1449. Also included are the Law Officers, Freemen of the Town and Town Clerks. Above the board are 14 shields displaying the Coats of Arms of the Members of the Confederation of Cinque Ports. The larger shields are those of the original Head Ports and the two "Antient" Towns. The smaller shields are those of the Limbs, Tenterden being the Limb of Rye.


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Pulled pork is a good source of protein, iron and zinc, and serving it is a convenient way to feed a large number of people. Do a bit of math to make sure that you have plenty of meat to go around, and also consider who is coming to the gathering, what type of meal you plan to serve and what other foods will be available. Once you've made all of these decisions, it's a simple process to determine how much pork you'll need per person.
To determine how much pork to buy, start by figuring that each person will consume about 6 ounces of finished meat weight, according to Julie Reinhardt, co-owner of a barbecue restaurant in Seattle and author of "She-Smoke: A Backyard Barbecue Book." Nutritionally speaking, this is about two servings of meat. Finished meat weight is how much the actual serving of cooked meat weighs and not the weight before cooking it. For example, if you plan to invite 25 people, multiply that number by 6 to get 150 ounces. Then divide that by 16 ounces to determine how many pounds of finished meat you need, which in this case is about 9.5 pounds.
Your formula can change depending on who you've invited to your party. Men tend to eat more than women. If your party is a males-only tailgate party or a get-together for a high school football team, bump up the standard 6-ounce measure to 10 ounces. If your party consists primarily of women, older adults or people watching their weight, figure on less meat per person. Children also tend to eat less.
Determine what type of meal you'll serve. If you are serving appetizers, figure on slightly less pulled pork, because people who eat pre-meal snacks tend to eat a bit less food for their main course. Plan for more pulled pork if you're setting up a buffet meal. This is because you can't predict exactly how much meat each person will eat, according to Mindy Weiss and Lisbeth Levine, authors of "The Wedding Book: The Big Book for Your Big Day."
The final amount of pork you need also depends on what other foods you'll be serving. Alongside three or four side dishes, you might not need as much meat as if you only served one or two sides. Your guests will likely eat a larger quantity of side dishes when there are several to choose from, which means each guest won't need as much meat to get full. As you're planning side dishes, focus on nutrition. Corn on the cob, tossed green salads, steamed vegetables and whole grain rolls all complement pulled pork, while ensuring that your guests are getting a tasty, nutritious and filling meal.
What Is a Serving Size of Meat?
Determining the serving size for meat means knowing the official guidelines and how to apply them in everyday cooking.


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