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Toshiba – Greenwashing Company of the Year
We often get some rather stupid approaches by companies trying to put out marketing messages to enhance their position in the eyes of potential consumers. Sometimes these approaches show just how stupid marketing people can be and in fact show just how little they know of the real situation in the market.
By Andrew Tribute
We often get some rather stupid approaches by companies trying to put out marketing messages to enhance their position in the eyes of potential consumers. Sometimes these approaches show just how stupid marketing people can be and in fact show just how little they know of the real situation in the market. I have to say however that I have seldom and probably never, seen such a stupid marketing message as that promoted by Toshiba in its proposal of a National No-Print Day for October 23, 2012. Toshiba's nationwide campaign purports to encourage, educate, and challenge individuals and companies to commit to one day of "no printing" and to raise awareness of the impact printing has on our planet. Toshiba claims that our industry has failed to make the link between printing waste and its negative impacts on our landfills, natural resources and the environment. Obviously some bright young marketer, no doubt with a highly polished MBA qualification, has seen that Toshiba can leverage the perceived environmental limitations of print to try to enhance the position of Toshiba in the market by showing how environmentally excellent the company is in its operations.
The first of heard of this was when I saw a message from the Printing Industries of America. In this message PIA's CEO Michael Makin stated of Toshiba's claims "this is patently untrue. Our industry has long led the way utilizing sustainable processes. The primary raw material for printing is paper, which comes from trees, which are a renewable resource—so renewable that today, our country has 20 percent more trees than it did on the first Earth Day which was held more than 40 years ago."
I decided to look into the Toshiba proposal and found the web site for National No-Print Day. My first thought was that this must have been an April 1 joke as it was so stupid. I have to ask did anyone in a senior position at Toshiba sanction this total load of garbage and ridiculous claims. Toshiba is a representative of the electronics industry that is a very poor performer when it comes to sustainability. One must ask which is more sustainable, paper or electronic devices like monitors, hard drives and the like that almost always end up as land fill. I would like to ask Toshiba how they plan to operate on National No-Print Day. Will all Toshiba staff not read any newspaper magazine or book all that day? Will they stop reading any of the marketing reports that their inspired marketing staff generate or purchase? Will they stop eating any food that comes in any form of printed packaging? Will they only work in their offices on solid wood or metal desks rather than desks where the surface is a printed laminate? Print is something a little more than the paper they print often unnecessarily on their Toshiba printers and copiers?
Printing and paper and their position in the environment are totally misunderstood by most people despite the major efforts that have been made to demonstrate the industries' environmental credentials. These are industries that have one of the best green records of any industry. Michael Makin states in his message the following – "Printing is the only medium with a one-time carbon footprint — all other media require energy every time they are viewed. Electronic devices, which Toshiba produces, for example, require the mining and refining of dozens of minerals and metals, as well as the use of plastics, hydrocarbon solvents, and other non-renewable resources. Moreover 50–80 percent of electronic waste collected for recycling is shipped overseas and is often unsafely dismantled. For Toshiba to call for such a ban on printing is hypocritical to say the least."
To show how hypocritical this is I quote a message on Toshiba's National No-Print Day by the Executive Director of the Print Council, Benjamin Cooper. "Toshiba plans to plant 1.5 million trees by 2025, however that the goal would represent about one third of the average daily planting of trees that currently takes place in the U.S. Planting 1.5 million trees sounds like a laudable goal and it is but it represents an insignificant addition to the anticipated 20 billion trees that will be planted by the forest products industry during that same 13 year stretch,"
I think that Toshiba is shooting itself in the foot with this stupid campaign that is conceived without any real understanding of the situation. It certainly makes me put Toshiba in a list of organizations that I feel does not merit my consideration if I am planning purchases of products the company manufactures. Greenwashing is a form of negative marketing. If you have something worthwhile to promote, then market responsibly with positive rather than negative messaging. To market by trying to promote green credentials is excellent if you have a strong message, but greenwashing is making unfounded and usually incorrect claims. Toshiba's National No-Print Day is about as bad a greenwashing approach as I have seen.
Michael Makin suggests that we should be promoting October 23 as National No-Toshiba Day. I suggest something more significant. Let PIA and others promote the National Greenwashing Awards and lets give the award for 2012 to Toshiba Inc.
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By Michael Gonte on Jun 15, 2012
I will be printing (not e-mailing)this article & sharing it with as many people as possible. In my calendar October 23 is No-Toshiba Day.
By Paul Schiller on Jun 15, 2012
Thanks Andy! I've reposted the PI World acticles on several discussion groups. What a ridiculous campaign. Would love to meet the 'savant' or group of 'savants' that came up with this campaign. I say Toshiba should get not only the 2012 Greenwashing award, they should get the Lifetime Achievement award for the same honor.
By Margie Dana on Jun 15, 2012
Brilliant, Andy - send this to everyone at Toshiba, please~. I second your nomination of Toshiba for the first annual National Greenwashing Award. Let's double their pleasure by also awarding them the first National Birdbrain Award.
By Richard Romano on Jun 15, 2012
Thanks, Andy, over in the Going Greenosphere (http://blogs.whattheythink.com/going-green/), I've been trying to fight this kind of silliness for a long time now. A recent study that was just published (http://files.twosides.info/Content/facts/pdf_164.pdf; via our friends at Two Sides, link opens a PDF) finds that "[T]otal forest area has been relatively stable for 100 years even though the U.S. population has nearly tripled during this same time period. Between 1953 and 2007, forest area increased slightly, up 3.8 million acres." This is also a period when the U.S. printing and paper industries were growing by leaps and bounds (well, until recently...). If the printing industry was The Bringer of Doom to All Trees, we would have seen a corresponding decline in forest cover as the printing industry expanded, but we have not seen that at all. Actually, the primary challenge to maintaining the health and growth of forests is selling the land for other uses, such as real estate. A forest that is used as a resource for commercial products--like paper--has value. When demand for those products declines, that value disappears and those resources are no longer required, ergo divestiture and selling off the land.
So think about the spread of strip malls and suburban subdivisions before hesitating to print something.
By Joel Salus on Jun 15, 2012
I think the promotion should be extended to a "no wipe" day, instead of just a "no print" day.
By Patrick Henry on Jun 15, 2012
Toshiba ought to acquaint itself with the "Print Grows Trees" campaign (www.PrintGrowsTrees.org), operated by Printing & Graphics Association MidAtlantic (PGAMA, www.pgama.com). If it had, maybe this whole thing never would have started.
By James Olsen on Jun 15, 2012
www.chooseprint.org is a clearinghouse which brings together in one place information and links to other websites that tell the story about the effectiveness and environmental credentials of print on paper.
The environmental impact of print on paper
90% of the paper consumed in the United States is produced in the United States [source].
33% of papermaking material in the United States comes from recycled paper; 33 percent comes from wood chips and scrap from sawmills; and 33% comes from virgin trees [source].
Renewable:
90% of the wood harvested in the United States comes from private "tree farms" [source].
56% of forests in the United States are private ownership; the remaining 44 percent are public ownership [source].
Recyclable:
87% of Americans (268 million) had access to curbside and/or drop-off paper recycling programs in 2010 [source].
63.5% of the paper consumed in the Unites States was recycled in 2010 [source].
Jim Olsen,
Imagination, Ink.
By Tim Kirkland on Jun 15, 2012
Great article Andy. That video continues to baffle me. Who is going to win from that?
But aren't we preaching to the Choir? The your article and the audience for the PIA is the printing industry, who already knows the main facts. Are we getting these facts to the general media? Are we getting the facts to the US education system? How can we help make that happen?
Sorry about my cutting and pasting.
I meant to say "The audience for your article and the audience for the PIA is the printing industry, who already knows the main facts."
Well, we're talking about paper, so we'd actually be preaching to the quire...
I stand corrected...and I had to look up quire.
By Pat Barnum on Jun 15, 2012
Blogs, twitter, email blasts, list serves, electronic newsletters have all been preaching to the choir. That is why I sent an email to Toshiba directly. The way I see it, the marketing department has no clue. I thought perhaps the Investment Relations would sit up and take notice. You can contact them at ir@toshiba.co.jp. Let's take Andy's lead and tell them you will be loudly advocating for them to wins the first annual "pffffth Award" for Greenwashing.
By Jeff Lewis on Jun 15, 2012
Don't send them emails, send them letters -- sacks and sacks of letters!
I did send an email. Thanks Pat.
We don't need job losses over such irresponsible and self-serving brand buffing.
I just hope Andy's, Richards's, and Michael's messages get to the media, school system, and elected officials.
I did email them at the address you give above. But how do we reach the media, schools, and elected officials?
By Michael Grant on Jun 15, 2012
Hey Toshiba, you are so right! Let's start a movement to improve the environment and reduce the carbon footprint of our global communications. This is so green, so cool!
I have a great idea. It's only a dream and it may sound crazy, but hear me out. Why don't we use agriculture and those things called trees to help us communicate? We could plant trees then harvest them and make paper. You remember paper, right? The communications material we can pass on to many others and yet, produce only once. Not only that, there's more! After we have used the paper we could recycle it and use it again and again. And, hear me out, we can plant more trees - really! It's agriculture. And here's the really, really good part, trees create oxygen, you know, the stuff we humans need to breathe. Wow! Who knew? Each time we plant trees the environment improves. Wow again! What a breakthrough! This could be the green cycle utopia we have all been seeking. Think about it, Toshiba. Less plastic, less energy and you know what, less fossile fuels. Oh, and one last thing, less Toshiba. Buy hey, you are doing it for us, the planet. We will send you a very nice wreath with a (paper)card too.
I realize that this is a old and tired statement, but it never fails to amaze how shallow and superficial many of we human beings have become in our thinking and understand of the world around us. Is critical thinking dead? But then again, that's a whole other subject.
So, bye, bye to the kids over at Toshiba. See you back in the classroom of life. Don't forget to have your mom pack you a lunch.
Well, we know we all make mistakes, even colossal ones that might affect major employment percentages in an election year. No, wait, maybe even I haven't done that.
Will they shutdown the campaign? Will they truly admit a mistake? Toshiba has a window of opportunity to win back respect from the graphic arts community, and the savvy end-users.
History says "no." But let's give them some time to make the right decisions.
By Ted C. Ringman on Jun 19, 2012
Toshiba Machine Company built web offset printing presses. A number of these presses remain in operation. Perhaps the company should contact directly those printers running this equipment and suggest that they do not operate their Toshiba branded presses on October 23.
By Michael Eddington on Jun 21, 2012
Improving the environment requires more than just planting a crop of trees. This is agriculture, but not an ecosystem. The paper industry has a vested interest monoculture plantations, and I doubt fault them for that, but to promote this as reforestation, "renewable" or " sustainable" is in itself greenwashing.
Try it, you'll like it:
http://www.nationalnoprintday.com/
They shut it down. Can't find them on YouTube anymore either.
Stopping their campaign was a good step, but it won't stop another powerful group from picking up the day, and it won't stop Toshiba from starting up a new campaign with a more PIA-friendly message.
Most importantly it won't arm educators, elected officials, and "the media" with factual data about our industry, both pro and con.
I don't believe this issue was about "improving the environment," though I agree with the above statements (accept for the greenwashing part) - it's about a powerful marketing campaign containing misinformation VS the Printing Industry's concern that unbridled misinformation might adversely affect over 800,000 print-related employees.
Michael, let me underscore that I agree with your statement, and with what you appear to be saying between the lines.
We need to be careful in taking defensive postures, and in fighting mistake with mistake.
Although I don't consider the official responses from PIA and NAPL to be Greenwashing, I have read many comments, and a few high-profile articles, that could be considered such.
I think that be must be very careful going forward that we educate with information that is as accurate as possible, less we risk an ineffective investment of efforts.
Fair enough, though I feel the print industry over-reacted to a campaign that likely would have garnered little attention otherwise, and meanwhile continues to close its eyes to the real impact of its environmental footprint. There's plenty of misinformation on both sides.
There is much more knowledge of industrial ecological footprint in this thread than I have.
I live in North Carolina, the 11th most populous state in the US. Our top industries are farming (tobacco, poultry), textiles, and furniture.
My questions are these:
1) Where do you feel the printing industry falls short of where we should be in footprint?
2) How does the footprint of Printing compare to tobacco farming, poultry farming, textiles, & furniture?
3) How does the US footprint compare to other major industrialized Nations, to include Mexico, China, India, the EU, and Canada?
4) How does this compare that with the ecological "US street" reputation of the printing and pulp industries?
By Kerry Stackpole on Jun 21, 2012
It is surprising how much one can learn when you take a closer look.
http://www.PrintGrowsTrees.org
There's some good information at www.printgrowstrees.org, but it does gloss over the issues of monoculture plantations, with only one sentence mentioning plantation forestry drawbacks (lack of biodiversity). Some equate these plantations to "green deserts" with only marginal benefits to the environment, if not drawbacks.
http://www.econexus.info/publication/genetically-engineered-trees-no-solution-global-warming/
I certainly don't have all the answers, I just think that our industry needs to be more open and honest, and that the outcry over "No Print Day" seemed overtly defensive.
How do you rate PIA's official response, http://www.printing.org/news/10597,and their flip-book, "The Value of Print?"
Sorry, http://www.printing.org/news/10597
The PIA's response made good points (though overtly defensive as I mentioned) with regard to electronic media, as does their Flip book, and I totally agree with the effectiveness of print. I do find the statements of trees as a renewable resource a bit short sighted. These plantations are not forests with ecosystems, but are essentially crop land with questionable environmental outcomes. Not exactly a "green cycle utopia", to borrow another's terminology. I believe it can be done better, and feel that our industry is a bit comfortable with the environmental status quo.
I also find it somewhat ironic the www.printgrowstrees.com site touts third party certification, which from my experience, many printers absolutely abhor and view as a scam. Not to mention that FCS and SFI both have come under scrutiny over what they allow for best forestry practices.
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HAYWARD SCHOOL BOARD SCANDAL | Another school board meeting in Hayward, another chance lost to confront serious allegations of potential violations of the state's sunshine laws.
Since allegations surfaced July 25 of an undisclosed romance between Hayward school board President Jesus Armas and fellow member Maribel Heredia, the pall of obfuscations has hovered over the fractured board and seemingly unmotivated school district staff.
For a third consecutive meeting, a viable plan was not offered by school district staff to either conduct an investigation into the affair or author language to be added to its bylaws. The school district's legal counsel have also yet to have advised the board of the ramifications of the allegation and how to proceed forward.
Despite the school administration's inaction, two current members of the school board, William McGee and Dr. Luis Reynoso have both questioned, at least one instance of suspected collusion between Armas and Heredia, occurring earlier this summer regarding a vote to reinstate the employment of the principal at Hayward High School.
He also sought to apologize to the community for what he believes was an improper abuse of power on Aug. 22 by Armas when he asked district employees in the audience that night to raise their hands. "It's the reason why we need a vote of no-confidence," he said.
Heredia reiterated Wednesday she traveled to be with her children's great-grandmother, who had fallen ill. While stifling tears, Heredia revealed the loved one, related to her estranged ex-fiance, had passed away last week.
A story in The Citizen last month, citing Heredia's Facebook postings, revealed what appeared to be a late summer vacation in Newport Beach.
Her excuse, though, seemed to have emboldened Heredia, who became far more assertive and lively following the disclosure. The board ultimately approved paying Heredia for the missed meeting.
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They are not running for election so what is the point to investigate?
Are you assuming since a public official is no longer wants to run for re-election, they have more desire to conduct themselves to a higher degree of honor?
This logic suggests you think Jesus Armas and Maribel Heredia somehow plead guilty to a lesser charge by not running for re-lection and should be absolved of any investigation.
The point to investigate are the numerous potential conflicts in voting, by standing up last night and blatantly lying, she is just making an even bolder statement that she doesn't care what people think, basically, she just doesn't care!
Armas, Heredia, the HUSD staff and legal counsel are all just playing the waiting game. They plan to out-wait the public and the controversy. They plan on just ignoring the pleas for ethics, justice and integrity. They plan on staying quiet and just keep getting paid since no one can force them out. Time is on their side unless the public stands up with Reynoso and McGee and force the issue to come to a head. Nothing will change otherwise.
What a sham HUSD is right now. I feel really sad for the kids.
Amen to the 2,3,4 comments. We need to investigate HUSd on Jesus Armas, Maribel Heredia, and Lisa Bruner. Expose the bums for what they are.
the terrible three of armas heredia and brunner are ruining education for many students. those three are clueless.
The real issue is Lisa Bruner's position as the tie breaker in all votes. Since she is clearly on the side of Armas and Heredia all votes will be controversal. That alone should be enough for the local media and all elected officials in the local area to be concerned. The school district is not an island. Every decision by the school board has significant impact on the local community. Why doesn't the broader community care? This is truly amazing.
At Wednesday night's board of education trustee meeting…Heredia said she was absent from the August 22 board meeting because she went to SoCal to be with her children's paternal grandmother. She informed the audience that the grandmother died last week. As I read the EBCitizen live tweets of the board meeting, I learned that "Heredia traveled to SoCal to be with her ex-fiance's family. The guy who alleges she cheated on him with Armas." WOW! I checked out her Facebook page Tuesday night and found lots of great photos of her activities while in SoCal. Nowhere did she mention that the children's grandmother was ill and needed our prayers and good thoughts. But there were lots of photos showing where Heredia was drinking her morning latte, a map of the Chino Hills in Los Angeles, a photo of the sunset near Huntington Beach, and a summer memories collage near Newport Beach. Never any mention of visiting with grandmother at home or in a hospital. Very very suspicious. I am suspicious because she can tell the worst lies with a straight face. She is great at bringing on a few tears for compassion and to make her stories believable. I don't buy it!
Once again the school district staff defied the board. While Reynoso was telling the staff to do their jobs, the assistant superintendent of HR rolled his eyes. After the meeting, I informed the assistant superintendent of HR that the audience witnessed his unprofessional behavior and suggested that he refrain from such blatant disrespect for our elected officials.
As I waited and waited to speak regarding the consultant contracts, I moved to the front of the room so that Armas would not forget my comment card. (Usually, the community makes their comments before the board deliberates.) Armas was about to make a demeaning comment about me when another audience member yelled, "Don't even say it!" He shared his smug smile at her and me and the audience. Get out of town, Armas.
Another member of the audience commented to me that Heredia voted "yes" to adopt the minutes of the August 22 meeting. I verified this at the end of the meeting and asked that she change her vote to an "abstention" but she refused. She definitely needs to resign. Her presence is detrimental to the children of Hayward schools and to the people who work in our schools. Be gone, Heredia!
Many highly competent administrators lost their jobs due to the board members. When will all this nonense stop? The children are not receiving an excellent education due to the problems in Hayward. When the children leave Hayward to go to other districts, many can't even read. So sad.
Every vote by Armas, Brunner and Heredia with direct input from Chien Wu Fernandez has caused the expulsion of numerous students!!!! This coupled with administrator to administrator collusion prior to the expulsion hearing (I've been there). How many lives have been screwed by this board. Get rid of Chien along with her buddy Mari who votes based on Chiens posted note recommendation as seen in Heredia's deposition.
Let me get this straight… Heredia misses a meeting board meeting and before the next board meeting a resolution is drafted and placed on the agenda to pay her. But Reynoso and McGee ask for a no confidence vote and legal recommendation and it has not been done yet?
Nothing will change when NOBODY, except the same few people go to board meetings and express their outrage and disgust. Nothing will change if the public in general, and the HUSD community in particular, continue to stay home. The administration will continue to spend money for services that could and should be done "in house"; continue to misuse the precious dollars HUSD does have to employ more highly paid administrators; continue to ignore certain members of the board because they know they can! In the end apathy will only hurt the children who have no voice!
There is too much dirty money being played around with in HUSD from old dirt families in Hayward. I would never vote for any recommendations from Zaballo, Piexoto, Oakes, or any of the old families in Hayward as they are silent partners padding their pockets with their puppets in politics.
Hayward needs change to get rid of these leeches and support the "Blue Collar Workers" who really pay the taxes that need to put back into the workering class.
Hayward citizens need to get rid of the scum on the school board and I will not support any reccomendations from the old families of Hayward such as Piexoto, Zabbalos, and the others that are nothing but leeches and silent partners, who have ties in big contracts and are controlling puppets that they recommend so thay can pad their pocket books. Wake up citizens of Hayward.
How much money has Pacheco Bros. landscaping and Sueito concrete raked in also off of HUSD?
If the anlysis by 12:03AM (Sept 15) is correct, then the named parties are playing the same game that Alameda County's DA's office and County Counsel's office play whenever they go thru thier choreographed charades of pretending to "investigate" wrongdoing involving one of the big boys.
In other words whenever there is a demand that the DA's office and/or County Counsel's office investigate criminal activity involving one of the higher ranking officials in local government, and such as for instance bribery, those offices then go thru their scripted and choreographed charades of pretending to "investigate," but then always, and after enough time has passed that most members of the general public has mostly forgotten about the particular criminal activity, invent an excuse to end and close the investigation, in other words to the big boys get away with it.
The last phrase of my previous post should read: in other words to LET the big boys get away with it.


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RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) � A North Carolina appeals court Tuesday preserved a lawsuit that could force the University of Maryland to pay a $52 million fee for leaving the Atlantic Coast Conference.
The ACC sued Maryland after the school said last November it was leaving for the Big Ten Conference. That lawsuit came after the ACC voted to increase the exit penalty to three times the conference's operating budget, which the appeals court calculated at nearly $52.3 million.
A state Court of Appeals panel rejected Maryland's bid to dismiss the lawsuit. It was filed in Greensboro, where the ACC is headquartered. The three-judge panel's unanimous decision means Maryland has no automatic right to a state Supreme Court appeal. But the higher state court could choose to hear an appeal.
The $52 million fee is the highest penalty ever assessed on a school for leaving an athletic conference and would be nearly equal to the school's yearly athletic budget, Maryland's attorney general's office said in May. The school's athletic department last year cut seven sports teams as it struggled with multimillion-dollar annual losses.
Maryland's representative on the ACC's Council of Presidents, which has the authority to alter the conference's governing constitution, voted against increasing the penalty from what the court calculated would have been a fee of about $17.4 million.
Despite Maryland's negative vote on increasing the exit fee, �each member, including the University of Maryland, has agreed to be bound by the vote of the Council,� Judge Robert N. Hunter Jr. wrote in the appeals court's decision.
The university sued the ACC in Maryland in January, calling the amount an illegal penalty. A Maryland judge has put the school's lawsuit on hold until North Carolina courts issue a final judgment. Maryland's ACC departure is scheduled for July.
Maryland's attorneys argued in the North Carolina lawsuit that the ACC's lawsuit should be dismissed because the school is an arm of the state, and Maryland and other states enjoy sovereign immunity that protects them from lawsuits. North Carolina's Court of Appeals rejected that argument, saying it doesn't apply to the ACC's claim that the penalty is due because Maryland broke its contract.
North Carolina's courts don't allow state officials to claim they don't have to respect contracts, so the sovereign immunity claim �will not be extended to allow defendants to escape a determination as to their rights and obligations under an alleged contract,� Hunter wrote.
Maryland officials were considering their options after Tuesday's ruling, said David Paulson, a spokesman for Maryland Attorney General Douglas Gansler. University representatives did not return messages seeking comment.


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Q: Postgresql link query same table I have read many answers here but this is my first question. I am a newbie so suggestions about question style/format are appreciated.
PostgreSQL 9.1
I have one table called events. primarykey=serialid
   ==============================================
   |serialid|             time|sender|dependency|

   |       1| 2012-11-22 14:40|  John|          |
   |       2| 2012-11-22 14:41|   Sue|         1|
   |       3| 2012-11-22 14:42|  John|         1|
   |       4| 2012-11-22 14:43|   Sue|          |
   |       5| 2012-11-22 14:44|  John|         4|
   |       6| 2012-11-22 14:44|  John|         4|

About the table:
The first row(serialid==1) has 2 dependent events: 2nd,3rd
(1)FIRST GOAL
I would like to ensure that if I make a WHERE statement ex: WHERE sender="John" every dependent event also exist in the result table
bad result:
   |       1| 2012-11-22 14:40|  John|          |
   |       3| 2012-11-22 14:42|  John|         1|
   |       5| 2012-11-22 14:44|  John|         4|
   |       6| 2012-11-22 14:44|  John|         4|

I also need Sue's event(serialid==2) because it is connected to John "main event"
good result:
   |       1| 2012-11-22 14:40|  John|          |
   |       2| 2012-11-22 14:41|   Sue|         1|
   |       3| 2012-11-22 14:42|  John|         1|
   |       5| 2012-11-22 14:44|  John|         4|
   |       6| 2012-11-22 14:44|  John|         4|

(2)SECOND GOAL: lets look at the "good result" table:
   |       1| 2012-11-22 14:40|  John|          |
   |       2| 2012-11-22 14:41|   Sue|         1|
   |       3| 2012-11-22 14:42|  John|         1|
   |       5| 2012-11-22 14:44|  John|         4|
   |       6| 2012-11-22 14:44|  John|         4|

There are events without "main event". Events with serialid: 5,6 is a dependent of event serialid: 4 but it is not in thre result. The good result would be:
   |       1| 2012-11-22 14:40|  John|          |
   |       2| 2012-11-22 14:41|   Sue|         1|
   |       3| 2012-11-22 14:42|  John|         1|
   |       4| 2012-11-22 14:43|   Sue|          |
   |       5| 2012-11-22 14:44|  John|         4|
   |       6| 2012-11-22 14:44|  John|         4|

(SUMMARY)
So I need a query where I can specify a custom where statement and the rest of the query collects all the dependents of the result of the where statement.
something like this:
SELECT * FROM events WHERE "my conditions"
UNION??
magic dependency collector query :-)
(NOTE)
dependency can be only one level deep.
Thank you in advance,
Dave
UPDATE
Thanks for Igor I got my real query in my real database:
WITH RECURSIVE dep_event AS
(
  SELECT ev.serialid,ev.time_processed,ev.time_created,ev.sender_console,ev.sender_manager,ev.sender_map,ev.sender_device,ev.event_type,ev.event_command,ev.event_severity,ev.event_actionlist,ev.event_source,ev.event_info,ev.event_message,ev.dependency_main,ev.dependency_comment
  FROM events ev
  WHERE ev.event_severity='warning'
  UNION
  SELECT ev.serialid,ev.time_processed,ev.time_created,ev.sender_console,ev.sender_manager,ev.sender_map,ev.sender_device,ev.event_type,ev.event_command,ev.event_severity,ev.event_actionlist,ev.event_source,ev.event_info,ev.event_message,ev.dependency_main,ev.dependency_comment
  FROM  events ev
  JOIN dep_event dev ON ev.serialid = dev.dependency_main
             OR dev.serialid = ev.dependency_main
)
SELECT *
FROM dep_event

EXPLAIN ANALYZE
"CTE Scan on dep_event  (cost=203955680.32..204419627.58 rows=23197363 width=1034) (actual time=11.204..4602.977 rows=234159 loops=1)"
"  CTE dep_event"
"    ->  Recursive Union  (cost=0.00..203955680.32 rows=23197363 width=176) (actual time=11.200..4468.402 rows=234159 loops=1)"
"          ->  Seq Scan on events ev  (cost=0.00..47382.98 rows=227693 width=176) (actual time=11.181..2145.798 rows=225365 loops=1)"
"                Filter: ((event_severity)::text = 'warning'::text)"
"          ->  Nested Loop  (cost=4.89..20344435.01 rows=2296967 width=176) (actual time=1.593..610.347 rows=5863 loops=3)"
"                ->  WorkTable Scan on dep_event dev  (cost=0.00..45538.60 rows=2276930 width=16) (actual time=0.050..33.360 rows=78053 loops=3)"
"                ->  Bitmap Heap Scan on events ev  (cost=4.89..8.90 rows=1 width=176) (actual time=0.005..0.005 rows=0 loops=234159)"
"                      Recheck Cond: ((serialid = dev.dependency_main) OR (dev.serialid = dependency_main))"
"                      ->  BitmapOr  (cost=4.89..4.89 rows=1 width=0) (actual time=0.003..0.003 rows=0 loops=234159)"
"                            ->  Bitmap Index Scan on serialid  (cost=0.00..2.44 rows=1 width=0) (actual time=0.000..0.000 rows=0 loops=234159)"
"                                  Index Cond: (serialid = dev.dependency_main)"
"                            ->  Bitmap Index Scan on dep_main  (cost=0.00..2.45 rows=1 width=0) (actual time=0.002..0.002 rows=0 loops=234159)"
"                                  Index Cond: (dev.serialid = dependency_main)"
"Total runtime: 4621.138 ms"

A: In general - it is a clear case of recursive CTE (WITH RECURSIVE statement).
It would look like this:
WITH RECURSIVE dep_event AS (
  SELECT ev.serialid, ev.time, ev.sender, ev.dependency
  FROM events ev
  WHERE ev.sender = 'John' -- start condition here
  UNION
  SELECT ev.serialid, ev.time, ev.sender, ev.dependency
  FROM  events ev
  JOIN dep_event dev ON ev.serialid = dev.dependency -- connect conditions here
                     OR dev.serialid = ev.dependency
)
SELECT *
FROM dep_event;

Additional information here http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/queries-with.html
This RECURSIVE query will handle any level of dependencies.
UPD: Fixed some mistakes in the query and created SQLFiddle example http://sqlfiddle.com/#!12/4e915/4

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Q: Como cambio valores de celdas en un rango con un formula "Si" Quiero cambiar los 'valores' las celdas I13 hasta la K13, es decir I13 J13 K13 por medio de la formula "Si" cuando el valor sea verdadero.

A: Para cambiar los valores de celdas contiguas con una única fórmula, usa fórmula de matriz.
Por ejemplo, para comparar los valores de F3, G3 y H3 con 1. Si son iguales, regresa un 1 en la celda I3,J3 y K3 según corresponda, hacer los siguiente:

*

*Seleccionar I3:K3

*Escribir =IF(F3:H3=1,1,0) y oprimir CTRL+SHIFT+Intro
Referencias

*

*Crear una fórmula de matriz

A: Para cambiar los valores de dichas celdas tienes que compararlo con otra celda.
Por ejemplo, imagina que en la celda A1 tienes el valor 1, la celda B1 será verdadero o falso si A1 es 1.
=SI(A1=1;VERDADERO;FALSO)

B1 devolverá VERDADERO, si la función la colocas en la celda B1
Tendrías que indicar qué es lo que vas a evaluar. Recuerda la función SI (IF) necesita evaluar un parámetro de entrada para devolver un booleano. Puede devolver lo que tu necesites (texto, número, boolean, etc.)
=SI(CELDA A COMPARAR; VERDADERO; FALSO)

En programación es lo mismo,
Si (parametro es verdadero) entonces

#código

sino

#código

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SALISBURY Rugby Club made a bit of history on Saturday afternoon during their home game against Buckingham, writes JOHN PALMER and NEIL TONGE.
Daniel Jugg made the step up from junior age-group to senior rugby this season. He came on as a replacement soon after half-time to make his 1st XV debut.
He is following in the boot-prints of his grandfather David, who represented Salisbury in the 1950s and 60s, and his father Russell, who played in the 80s and 90s - and still turns out for the 2nd and 3rd XV when needed.
It took Daniel a while to get his hands on the ball but turned out to be a dream debut when he scored a try with the final move of the game, as the home side were narrowly beaten 22-17.
Salisbury may come to view this as the one that got away after mistakes led to concession of scores at just the wrong times in a finely balanced match.
The visitors started brightly in the bleak conditions and from a period of pressure came away with a penalty. Salisbury came back almost immediately when Dave Tonge's excellent kick was gathered by veteran try machine Tom Pottage for a score, converted by Adam Clayson.
Salisbury could not gain the ascendancy they had enjoyed the previous week at the set piece and possession became a bit of a lottery but even so the hosts were shading the contest.
With half time approaching Salisbury failed to chase a clearing kick with any conviction and Buckingham's fullback was able to weave his way to the line for a converted score.
Clayson added a penalty after the break but a further try from the visitors extended their lead.
Salisbury enjoyed a period of sustained pressure and were rewarded when Daniel Jugg, one of two debutants alongside prop Sean Galloway, scampered over for a try, converted by Clayson.
It was too little too late again but there have been changes behind the scenes at the club and there would seem to be a more positive air about the side.
Director of Rugby, Richard Lloyd, tipped his hat to the debutants as well as the ageless Richard West and Pottage, and the tireless Seb Jones who was playing his last game for a while.
Captain Tonge added: "The boys are positive, their attitude is fantastic, a win is not too far away."
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By Scott Schroeder Dec 9, 2011, 5:26pm EST
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Richard Hamilton is one of the few remaining members of the Detroit Pistons championship squad in 2004, but it apparently will not be that way for long. The man better known as Rip, a 12-year NBA veteran, is apparently on his way to being released by the team as training camp opens this weekend.
Hamilton has been waived by the Pistons and will be bought out of his contract, according to the Detroit Free Press. The cut is apparently not going to happen under the new amnesty clause, which would allow the team to wipe his contract from the books entirely, because the two sides have apparently agreed to a buyout for a lesser amount.
The Pistons have said that they don't plan to use the amnesty clause, but it would seem that would have been a better option for Hamilton as he would have received the full remaining amount of his salary -- $12,500,000 for the upcoming season and at least $9 million guaranteed for 2012-13. By accepting a buyout, however, Hamilton will be able to choose his new team on his own rather than going through the amnesty bidding process.
The Pistons have already re-signed Tayshaun Prince and Jonas Jerebko to larger than average deals. Aside from Prince, Hamilton was the lone member still on the Pistons roster from the 2003-04 NBA championship team.
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