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The Day Israel Attacked the United States
An event shrouded in mystery in 1967 left more than three dozen American sailors dead and many unanswered questions.
Unloading the dead photo courtesy: ussliberty.org
Israeli flag courtesy: saharamarathon.co.uk
(SALEM) - An amazingly large number of educated and intelligent people that I converse with have never heard of the Israeli attack on the U.S.S. Liberty that caused the deaths of 34 men and injuries to 171.
They are shocked to learn that in 1967, during Israel's Six-Day War with Egypt, Israeli fighters repeatedly attacked a U.S. Navy ship from the air for 25 minutes and then by torpedo boats for 40 minutes. That, after circling the ship 13 times in daylight over a nine hour period to establish her identity.
For years, hundreds of Americans knew about the attack and they knew that it was kept under wraps until more recent years. And as I said, most people still don't know about it.
Why the secrecy? How and why could this have happened? We are after all, allies. It isn't like it was a random shot, it was friendly fire on steroids.
This is the ship the U.S.S. Liberty was mistaken for; an Egyptian horse carrier named El Quseir, The Liberty is shown at right, her crews said the ship's American flag was flying high when the Israeli jet attacked
Emblem of the U.S.S. Liberty
This incident has remained a matter of controversy ever since that fateful day. The Israel government insists the attack was a tragic accident while survivors and many top US officials say it was planned and deliberate.
Officially, the United States says only that Israel's motive for attack could not be determined. Secretary of State Dean Rusk, in office at the time, called the attack deliberate.
The official excuse is still withheld from the American public at the request of the Government of Israel. That sounds sneaky, and we fight fire with fire around here. While we can't bring you the report in it's entirety, this is an official U.S. synopsis called the Salans Report: www.ussliberty.org/salans.htm
I have no problem with the bully state of Israel on most days, well, maybe that isn't true. OK, it isn't... I can't stand to think of the history of the occupation of the place. It isn't so much what happened, but it is the obvious ignorance that goes with it. History is a sad thing when the oppressed become the oppressor.
In 1947, with the help of the British Secret Service and other western government sponsored groups, the founder of the Jewish state forced the Palestinians from their homes, places where they were born.
Then twenty years later, they blasted the heck out of a U.S. Navy ship and killed a lot of the guys who were aboard, while injuring scores of others. We should have this in the back of our minds as we go through our lives here in the states, and things need to be laid out the way they really happened.
I can not do this story any real justice, anyone who is interested should visit this site where you can spend hours reading about the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty: www.ussliberty.org/
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Ron March 23, 2008 7:00 am (Pacific time)
After reading all the comments here I can say that as a survivor I am indebted to all those Zionist supporters who help us keep this story alive. Without their help I don't believe we could keep the truth out there for all to see. Thank you.
Jim McMullan October 20, 2007 2:04 pm (Pacific time)
There have been TEN Congressional Probes over 30 years- all found the attack UNintentional.. as did the last NSA Radio Releases showing the Israeli pilots did NOT know it was an American Ship. - - And a few Years ago - the Pilot who lead the raid spoke out .. from Jpost. This pilot Not towing the company line either is now a refusenik- and his ego obviously precludes his lying. - -- - - - - - -- - Oct. 10, 2003 Pilot who bombed 'Liberty' talks to 'Post - By ARIEH O'SULLIVAN - - - - -- -- An Israeli pilot who Mistakenly attacked the American intelligence ship USS Liberty during the 1967 Six Day War said they were lucky he had no bombs – otherwise he would have sunk her. - "There was a Mistake. - Mistakes happen. As far as I know, the mistake was of the USS Liberty being there in the first place," said Brig.-Gen. (res.) Yiftah Spector. - - - - After 36 years Spector, who this week was Dismissed by the IAF for signing the pilots' refusal letter protesting the policy of Targeted killings, agreed to speak to a reporter for the first time on his role in the attack on the Liberty, an American spy ship strafed on the fourth day of the war. - - - - Flying a Mirage III fighter jet code named "Kursa" or couch, Spector was the first pilot to reach the ship, which was about 20 nautical miles west of Gaza. - - He had been on an air-to-air mission and was NOT loaded with bombs. - - - - Spector, now 63, went on to become a triple ace, shooting down 15 enemy aircraft, and take part in the 1981 raid on the Iraqi nuclear reactor, earning himself a place in the pantheon of Israeli fly boys. This week he ended a 20-year stint teaching new generations of pilots. - Spector had always refused to discuss the attack on the USS Liberty, which killed 34 US sailors and wounded 172, or even be revealed as the pilot who led the attack on her. Until now. - "I did Not fire on the Liberty as a human target. I was sent to attack a sailing vessel. This ship was on an escape route from the El Arish area, which at that same moment had heavy smoke rising from it," Spector said. - - -- "It was thought to be an Egyptian vessel. This ship positively did NOT have any symbol or flag that I could see. What I was concerned with was that it was not one of OURS.- - - - - - - I looked for the symbol of our navy, which was a large white cross on its deck," he told The Jerusalem Post. "This was Not there, so it wasn't one of ours." - - - - - - - - - The concern of the IAF was that Spector and his wingman, who had been diverted from the Suez Canal, would strike one of the Israel Navy ships in pursuit of the vessel, which was assumed to be Egyptian. IAF archival recordings of the pilots' radio transmission of the actual attack obtained by the Post show that Spector was specifically requested to verify that the ship was a military vessel and Not Israeli. - - - According to the June 8, 1967, radio transmission, Spector said: "I CAN'T identify it but in any case it's a Military ship." - - Speaking of the event 36 years later may have caused Spector to mix what he remembered with what he may have read and his testimony does not always match archival facts. - "I circled it twice and it did not fire on me. My assumption was that it was likely to open fire at me and nevertheless I slowed down and I looked and there was positively NO Flag. -Just to make sure I photographed it," said Spector, who retired from active duty as a brigadier-general in 1984. Experts intimately acquainted with the incident said that the only photos Spector took were from his gun-sight camera during his strafing run. Regardless of whether the 455-foot ship bristling with eavesdropping antennas flew a US flag, which it evidently did from its starboard halyard, that banner was shot off in Spector's first strafing pass. - "I was told on the radio that it was an Egyptian ship off the Gaza coast. Hit it. The luck of the ship was that I was armed only with light ammunition [30mm] against aircraft. -- - If I had had a bomb it would be sitting on the bottom today like the Titanic. I promise you," Spector said. The 30mm rounds were armor piercing, which to this day led Liberty survivors to believe they had been under rocket attack. Spector's first pass ignited a fire which caused the ship to billow black smoke. Ironically, Spector transmitted he suspected the Liberty was putting out smoke to deliberately mask itself. "Every order is given by commanders and the last one to receive it has to decide whether he will pull the trigger or not. In this instance I was the fighter. I checked what I had to check [i.e. that it was a military ship and not one of ours] and pulled the trigger," Spector said. - - "The crew should be thankful for their luck [that I was on an Air-to-Air Mission and did NOT HAVE any bombs]. It is a pity we attacked. I'm sorry for poor Capt. (William Loren) McGonagle, who was wounded in the leg and the other guys who were killed and wounded." - - - "I'm sorry for the mistake. Years later my mates dropped flowers on the site where the ship was attacked," Spector said. "I'm the last guy who has a problem with admitting mistakes and asking for forgiveness. There was a mistake, but it wasn't my mistake." - - - - He added he remains Baffled that the Conspiracy theories live on that Israel deliberately attacked the US intelligence ship. He suggested it might be due to anti-Semitism, or anti-Israeli sentiments. - - "I know that after the war one of the first things that was done was the establishment of a [US] senator's inquiry. I know this personally, because I was called upon to testify before it. They came to the country and I was questioned. - - I told them what I told you just now – that there was a mistake. I am sorry for the mistake. In war mistakes happen," Spector said. He said that he had never in the past 36 years ever met with any of the Liberty survivors, but has no qualms about doing so now. "They must understand that a mistake was made here," Spector said. "The fool is one who wanders about in the dark in dangerous places, so they should not come with any complaints. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I would also like to add in response to several comments- the Testimony of the US Crew is fairly IRRELEVANT.. as they could NOT know who the Israelis THOUGHT they were, and that victims of Friendly Fire attacks always feel it was intentional... And finally- some crew brass are protecting their own @ss as they blew Radio communications to be nowehere near there... and for all anyone knew (The USA and Israel) UNTIL they were attacked, they were Hundreds of Miles away.
Albert Marnell February 7, 2007 6:39 am (Pacific time)
Tim, February 7th, 2007 Better late than never.... Alex Jones goes into detail about this event in his documentary called "TerrorStorm". A History of Government Sponsored Terrorism. President Johnson wanted the U.S.S. Liberty sunk to the bottom by Israeli war planes so that they could blame it on Egypt and invade the Middle East as we now have done. The only reason they stopped was because a Russian Ship was nearby as a witness to the event. I have always known that the majority of attacks on western nations are self-inflicted wounds with double agents etc. Most of the people in the military have no idea about what is really going on. It is a small group of people paid off by high positioned and powerful people. Check out www.infowars.com
Stan White September 29, 2006 11:45 am (Pacific time)
Mike, I am making NO statements here that you can use to spin. Just this: Bring something to the table here 1) A resource for you accepting the "accident" you believe happened. 2) Some person with factual information,that you have talked to or communicated with, that this was an accident and that person's source. I will research any of the above with an open mind. OK ?
Mike Weeks September 28, 2006 11:23 am (Pacific time)
Always interesting to have Joe continue to confuse readers when he makes statements and what they really mean; he has been doing it for many years, long before I ever got interested in the subject. Once again, to have one believe that what has supposedly been a response from some unnamed and not-quoted "Congressional Delegation" relating to some unquoted CRS response as definitive is truly a stretch. After all, the CRS charter is to "formulate legislative proposals". Besides, all one has to understand is that not all available material on the subject is located in the Library of Congress _and_ cataloged for computer access. Joe also seems to be confused when it comes to believing that "putting faith" is somehow connected to Boston and Staring having not "asked us to." Then to put the "icing on the cake", as it were, when it come to "having faith"; to claim that there is going to be an "investigation"done in reaction to that paper sent to the DOD. If nothing else Joe really should change the web site sentence of "We are still waiting patiently for a reply." to one of "... that only supports our conclusions." After all, the response which one can't read on the LVA web site is located here:
Joe Meadors September 27, 2006 5:09 am (Pacific time)
Mike, thanks once again for coming to our assistance and allowing us to expand on our position by responding to your posts. It is a tactic we have employed so many times in the past it appears to be deliberate on your part. You previously wrote that the Congressional Research Service does not conduct investigations and that nobody has claimed it does. True. The point I was making is that if you write to your Congressional Delegation with a request that they contact the Congressional Research Service and ask them to answer the question, "has the US government ever conducted an investigation of the attack on the USS Liberty" the response from the CRS will be that the US government has never conducted an investigation of the attack. To address the point that you characterize our writings as "putting faith" in the claims of Capt. Boston and RADM Staring – it is not a question of putting faith in anyone. They haven't asked us to. What will happen is that the account they have provided will be subjected to the same critical scrutiny of examination and cross-examination that all evidence will be subjected to during the investigation of the attack that will flow from the War Crimes Report we filed with the Department of Defense.
Mike Weeks September 26, 2006 1:18 pm (Pacific time)
Stan White really should double check his claim (as one example) regarding the two retired USN JAG officers, Boston and Staring. Staring has make no claim whatsoever as expressed by White. As for Boston, well, put your faith if you wish in someone who is stating he violated not only his oath as an officer, but also his oath as counsel of the court -- as well as claiming that all others (they being deceased of course) on the court violated their oath. See article 135 of the UCMJ: "(e) The members, counsel, the reporter, and interpreters of courts of inquiry shall take an oath to faithfully perform their duties." Is that the Navy Stan White retired from? Bottom line continues to be that these op eds, postings, etc, etc, are really meaningless, as the 1967 incident has long been closed and settled and the world has moved on. So Stan White, speaking of saying nothing ...
Stan White September 25, 2006 9:26 am (Pacific time)
There are no rants here, Mike, just the facts that you show up at every site that takes a look at the attack on the LIBERTY, and post day after day without ever presenting any sources, or facts of any kind. We have two US Navy retired officers, both being from JAG and both involved in the Navy's investigation, stating publicly that it was a fraud and that their orders were for it be to concluded as an "accident" even though the evidence did not show it was. We have survivors on the main deck that saw unmarked planes attack the LIBERTY,in international waters, a war crime, with no effort to make identification , a war crime, and machine gun gun and sink life rafts released by the LIERTY after being torpedoed, a war crime and what do you bring in support of your "mistake" theme, NOTHING ! You will respond to this with another wordy answer, but again saying NOTHING !
Simply read thru the posts by Stan White, it's that simple Tim.
Tim King September 24, 2006 1:34 pm (Pacific time)
Boy, that is an interesting point that Mike Weeks calls forward. Mike, if "rants" are ineffective how do explain your own approach?
Stan White -- speaking of being boring. There are no winners when it comes right down to it; having an accurate understanding of history is like that in many cases. Rants do nothing when attempting to advance an agenda.
I don't know if you won or lost, Mikie, guess you won because evryone left this discussion, but in reality you lost again because once again you proved to everyone that you didn't have a clue what in the heck you were talking about. Does Israel pay you if people go away because you are just plain BORING, or are you required to actually convince at least one person of their lies and our government's scared to death cover-up ?
Joe Meadors continues to be confused; that the Congressional Research Service has conducted an investigation has never been claimed, to my knowledge; nor is it a depository of historial events -- espically non-Congressional. The focus of the CRS is quite clearly stated: "Congress created CRS in order to have its own source of nonpartisan, objective analysis and research on all legislative issues. Indeed, the sole mission of CRS is to serve the United States Congress." Naturally all this is meaningless, as nothing is going to change, no matter what Joe decides to post next.
Anonymous September 21, 2006 1:46 pm (Pacific time)
You tell 'em Joe!
Stan White September 21, 2006 1:37 pm (Pacific time)
Geeze, Mike you are so lame, this last posting once again is filled with words but not one authoritive piece of data we can confirm your inputs what so ever. Here and other forums, it's always the same with you, no facts, just propaganda. You must have one solid thing that you can show us that you have knowledge that brought you to this never ending line of BS that you have been spreading for years now. Since you say you were in the USNR, and thus no ax to grind with American sailors, then the only other possibility is you are paid by Israel to find these sites and start all over again, stating things you have NO proof of.
Mike Weeks fails to mention one simple fact -- the US government has NEVER conducted an investigation of the attack on the USS Liberty. A simple request to the Congressional Research Service through your Congressional Delegation will prove that fact.
The sailors aboard the ship that day only know what happened to them. It's quite simple and very straightforward. The "interest", as you call it, for this subject is now one of looking over the various stories and such, and comparing them to the wealth of available material (which should have been made available years ago by the gov't). It shouldn't have taken the State Department some 35 years to pen for example: "Johnson ordered a thorough investigation of the facts surrounding the attack. After extensive investigations, the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency concluded that there was 'little doubt' that the attacking Israeli units 'failed to identify the Liberty as a US ship before or during the attack' and that they had mistakenly identified the ship as Egyptian." In the larger scheme of things, it's really just the net which is the avenue by which a number of former crewmembers hope to somehow change history.
Mike, I assume you meant "phrase" but at any rate, you can believe what you want. Your POV appears to be shared by few who know very much about it. I have a hard time ever seeing myself or anyone else suggesting that they know more than the sailors aboard the vessel that day.
But all differences aside, I am glad the subject draws interest as it does. That is the point.
That's correct Tim, the insignificance of what you wrote and what's being bantered around here. And BTW, anyone who wasn't on the ship, nor in the aircraft, MTBs, at Haifa or Tel Aviv are in effect "armchair" whatever. It's the third party historians/researchers which normally bring a wider, more balanced perspective to the subject. These various comments by former Liberty crewmembers for example, remind me of that pharse; don't care what you write about me, as long as you write something.
The insignificance of this piece? You can call it an OpEd if you want Mike, you aren't the first to say that, but it sure has kept your attention and it has attracted more than one of the ship's actual survivors. Now I know you think you know more than those who were actually there. But hey, where would we be without armchair historians?
Joe Meadors being in denial continues to be quite amusing. Regarding "unnamed sources", perhaps Joe should take that up directly with Jim Ennes: "The story first came to me from a Navy master chief petty officer who was working with the Central Intelligence Agency ... one of the CIA employees returned to the topic in private conversation, seemingly anxious to inform the chief that the attack was no real surprise to the CIA. .... 'There was plenty of warning,' a former Israeli government official told another friend." (pgs. 206-207) I'm afraid that Ron Kukal is mistaken if he thinks that the "inquiry" forum is of any significance -- bottom line, nothing is -- including this op ed piece. What comes to mind is the song titled "Road to Nowhere", from the Talking Heads rock group.
Ron Kukal September 20, 2006 7:41 am (Pacific time)
For Mike Weeks: Mike I see your methods haven't changed much over the years. Been awhile since I talked to you, and as usual you still lean towards misdirection, unproven facts, and in general just comments off the top of your head. I am still waiting for you to come to the Court of Inquiry web site and do battle with the facts that are there. This site has been waiting for you for quite some time.
Mike Week's characterizing the modification of a position based on review and analysis of evidence presented subsequent to establishing that existing position as "reverse spin" is as expected. What else is left to him? His "bible" – Jay Cristol's "The Liberty Incident" - relies on doctored photos and unnamed sources to support his position. I shudder to think how we would be castigated should we (or any American) resort to such a heretofore unacceptable and outrageous strategy to support our position. It begs the question, in a time when our country finds itself at war what kind of American resorts to using such a source or such a tactic to apologize for and/or rationalize actions committed by and against the US military that resulted in the death of 34 Americans, the wounding of at least 173 and the total destruction of a US Navy ship without any investigation whatsoever by the US government of the attack that caused the carnage?
Come on Mr Weeks, show us the money ! We want to read, or talk to, or whatever, your "expanded series of sources" Don't respond by saying so and so said this and so and so said that, or how amused you are about something, just let us see and decide for ourselves. Step up to the plate or be a good USNR sailor, OK ?
It continues to be amusing to witness a typical Joe Meador's reverse spin on the subject: For example; "I was convinced that the attack was deliberate, premeditated murder." -- Jim Ennes having _already_ reached a conclusion by June 14, 1967 -- less than one week following the attack (pg. 137 of his book). Perhaps Joe can point to any published statement from Jim Ennes in which he acknowledges that he had been in fact "in error" when he was claiming to the public that Congress had indeed investigated.
David Lewis September 19, 2006 7:42 am (Pacific time)
I is ridiculous to argue with Mike Weeks. He will pick at nits till; Hell freezes over and always ignore the truth.
Mike's comment concerning Jim Ennes' statement gives me the opportunity of pointing out one of the most glaring differences between the tactics used by his side and ours. Our side collects and analyzes evidence and testimony and takes a position based upon that analysis. If we have taken a position that subsequent evidence or analysis tells us is incorrect we modify that position to agree with the evidence and analysis currently available. Mike's side assumes a position and entertains evidence and conducts analyses that support that position. He then tries to characterize our tactic of assuming or modifying our position to agree with the most recent evidence and analysis as a weakness in our strategy and evidence that we are wrong, inconsistent or that our position "flip-flops." Sometimes – as in this case – he asks us to speak to a position that has been modified based upon subsequent evidence or analysis. With regard to his criticism for what he characterizes as my disputing Stan White's comment regarding the investigation conducted by the US Navy, there is no dispute. Both Stan and I are correct.
Perhaps Joe Meadors should actually take up his claim with Jim Ennes: "the Defense Subcommittee of the House Committee on Appropriations, which investigated the attack in 1967" -- from a published letter in 1984. It is also interesting to note Joe Meadors disputing what Stan White had to say.
Mike weeks continues to fill his input with hot air, but he should be able to provide his "expanded series of sources" for all of to research on our own. Maybe we can arrive at his "opinion/conclusion".
Mike Weeks seems to be a bit confused and apparently wants to bring others along with him. True there were reports prepared but the US government has never conducted an investigation of the attack on the USS Liberty.
Mike Weeks September 17, 2006 10:05 pm (Pacific time)
I'm afarid Stan White continues to be confused about what is an opinion and what is an established fact. The fact that he suffered thru the attack by no means whatsoever establishes what he claims is actually a fact -- if for no other reason than he wasn't in any other location to know the intent of the Israeli forces which ended up attacking the ship. Rather or not someone was on active duty on June 8, 1967 means squat to the gaining of an understanding of not only the events of that day but also to many of the myths which have been generated in the later years. As to this claim of only ONE official investigation; I hate to break the news here, but he'll NOT see that mistaken statement repeated by the Navy JAG -- A Navy JAG Captain could only speak for what the JAG did, not the other components of the USG, including other parts of the Navy -- such as the NSG. Don't think there were other investigations? Well, just contact the Naval Historical Center (MHC), and ask for the "Naval Security Group File on USS Liberty" -- sanitized declassified dated 11 April 1985. You can bet that the NSG didn't send a copy over to the JAG. If Stan White wishes to do some fact checking of his own to counter some of the more silly stories generated about what the 6th Fleet did, or DIDN'T do, I suggest he either obtain his own copy of the NHC "6th Fleet/USS Liberty" message file, or go visit this specific web page: http://libertyincident.com/messages/usmessages.html and read thru them. I have no doubt that it'll be quite informative and educational.
"I notice that Stan White doesn't complain about those who push what he happens to believes, only those who happens to have come another conclusion -- based on an expanded series of sources. And just do you'll know, I'm ex-USNR ('67-'78), not that really matters"
Two things, Mr Weeks, concerning your statement above
1) It is not "what I believe", it's what I KNOW is the truth, from surviving, which was pure MURDER, no excuses work ! I, and every single survivor, would truly appreciate you revealing how YOU KNOW the truth and I just believe in some theory or part of some conspiracy cult. Put your research resources where this happened "those who happens to have come another conclusion -- based on an expanded series of sources", here for everyone to see, so that we might all check them out. By the way there was only ONE official investigation concerning this horror act put on by Israel, if you would please contact the US Navy Dept, like we did, and you will receive a letter stating there was only one. At least you didn't say there had been twelve or thirteen investigations like your Buddy A.J.
2) The last part of your statement above: "And just so you'll know, I'm ex-USNR ('67-'78), not that really matters"
You are correct here, it doesn't matter ! Not unless you happened to be on active duty June 8, 1967, and on board the USS LIBERTY, and observed an entirely different attack, than we survivors lived through.
r s thompson September 16, 2006 5:44 am (Pacific time)
I would encourage the reading of Peter Hounam's book;"Operation Cyanide" and the review of the BBC documentary;"Dead in the Water". Both avaliable through the USS Liberty web site or Amazon.com.Today's events demand an explanation on the why of Operations Cyanide and Frontlet 615. It is past time for the US Government to review it's policies with israel and take an America first attitude.
Hank Ruark September 15, 2006 5:07 pm (Pacific time)
Friends: Didn't pick up on this one earlier since wanted to see where it went...and it did ! ONLY comment: Have thick file re Watergate, started same way and accumulated closely parallel radically-negative comments --guess which way !!--for long-time. But historical perspective has proven most of that precisely what some of you here have termed much-mentioned from one side. Wanna bet this will be same way ? Per journalistic reflections, see nothing to complain about at all in Tim's coverage -- any old Marines out there also old journalists too ?
Joe, thank you for that, and I will look for that title. I know Mike makes some good points, it is a tough subject. I am just honored to be able to talk about it. Thanks for taking the time to visit and leaving your insightful comment.
Joe Meadors September 15, 2006 3:22 pm (Pacific time)
Tim, Kudos on your article from another USS Liberty survivor. When all the dust has settled the fact remains that the US government has never conducted an investigation of the attack on the USS Liberty. Indeed, there is also little to support the claim that the Israelis conducted one either. For all his faults I have to agree with Mike Weeks on one point -- read Jay Cristol's book. I understand it is out of print but may still be available at Amazon or through the author. When you read it, try to duplicate his research. You might also browse through our website at usslibertyinquiryDOTcom and read some analyses of his book. Then contact Jay and ask him to enter into an online discussion of his book at the forums on the website. Thanks again for your article. Warmest regards, Joe Meadors USS Liberty Survivor joeATussliberty.com co-webmaster usslibertyDOTcom and usslibertyinquiryDOTcom
Mike, It has already been suggested that you should have more respect for your fellow sailors, and I hope that in your heart, you really have more respect for your own country's loss that day than you disclose here, I'm sure you really do.
Tim, a desire for historical accuracy has no "historical motives." No one is claiming the 1967 incident should be forgotten, and yes Israel screwed up, which isn't denied. I continue to find it amusing how you attempt to demean someone who doesn't walk in lock-step with the error-filled material you present. What's so interesting about the net is that it's just about the only place such material continues to be presented. Thank goodness the net hasn't replaced all other means of gaining information.
Albert Marnell September 15, 2006 12:52 pm (Pacific time)
Anyone who is pro-Israel first and U.S. interests second, go an take the slow boat to Tel Aviv.
Tim King September 15, 2006 12:26 pm (Pacific time)
Mike, the record has been set straight and the history of your obvious nationalist motives have been exposed. You aren't looking any better by the post at this point. Israel screwed up in '67 and some of us aren't forgetting about it. It isn't that personal, that is not until you start piping up. I'm glad you were in the Navy Reserve, I was an active duty Marine. Maybe the Israeli military has some openings, check it out.
It really would help young Andrew's credibility if he would do some serious research on the Six-Day War and then state it accurately. Solid documentation shows that it was only the Egyptian airfields which Israel struck first on 5 June (Egypt posed the greatest threat). The Jordanians commenced artillery fire as well as airstrikes on Israel prior to the IAF catching the Jordanian planes on the ground for refueling in the afternoon. The Syrian Air Force struck first at northern Israel in the late morning, doing little damage, then getting caught on the ground in the afternoon by the IAF. The _general_ claim which can be used is that by the end of the first day of the war, the IAF had destroyed nearly all of the planes belonging to Egypt, Jordan and Syria. That's a far cry from the story Andrew presents. As to Andrew's other comment, all one has to do is to go to a local fed. depository library and find evidence of some of the various types of Congressional investigations which have taken place. However one was disclosed by author Jay Cristol, and it was the one held on behalf of the Liberty veterns group, in 1991-1993 period. See: http://libertyincident.com/house-investigation-1991.html
Thanks Tim for showing such hypocrisy with your last set of comments. For you to believe that a 1967 event somehow equates to the challenges the western world faces today is simply mind-boggling. I especially found it humorous for you to project your frustration with some church or other and attempt to equate that with me. Just how insecure is that? BTW, a group named finalcall.com first used the same title back in 2003: "A matter of Liberty - The Day Israel Attacked America". So it would appear that not even the title you picked is original. I notice that Stan White doesn't complain about those who push what he happens to believes, only those who happens to have come another conclusion -- based on an expanded series of sources. And just do you'll know, I'm ex-USNR ('67-'78), not that really matters
eqriddler September 15, 2006 10:39 am (Pacific time)
Tim, What do these major record-setting events have in common? • The ten costliest insurance events in U.S. history • The twelve costliest hurricanes in U.S. history • Three of the four largest tornado outbreaks in U.S. history • The two largest terrorism events in U.S. history. All of these major catastrophes and many others occurred or began on the very same day or within 24-hours of U.S. presidents Bush, Clinton and Bush Jr. applying pressure on Israel to trade her land for promises of "peace and security," sponsoring major "land for peace" meetings, making major public statements pertaining to Israel's covenant land and /or calling for a Palestinian state. Documentation: EYE TO EYE by William R. Koenig
The emotion should be left out of a thoughtful analysis of any issue that is intended to spur truth seeking. It's sad that this issue divides and even sadder that it divides along this particular issue at this particular time. Evidently, the trick was to divide and apparently it was successful enough. However, you'll accomplish more to benefit amorphous populations by coaxing higher levels of congealed thought.
Andrew September 15, 2006 9:53 am (Pacific time)
Tim, you have to excuse Mike Weeks. He will nitpick every error, fallacy, set up a strawman to knock down, you name it, just to show that he is right. And most of the time he is. The problem is that he'll never attack your thesis or main argument, just try to knock the one leg that's a little wobbly (meanwhile, the other three legs hold strong). In the end, the thesis/argument still stands relatively unscathed. My favorite is asking Mr. Weeks how many U.S. Congressional investigations there have been. He says five, or six depending on the day. Even the Library of Congress says none. Readers may also want to visit www.ussliberty.org's sister site, www.usslibertyinquiry.com, which also has a forum. I am absolutely appalled by Eric Villman's comment that Israel was attacked by Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and Syria. Quite to the contrary, ALL accepted history is that Israel pre-empted the war by bombing the Egyptian and Jordanian air forces while it was still on the ground. As the bombing commenced on the early morning of June 5, 1967, Israel sent out a false message to the world that said they were responding to an Egyptian attack. I will again point out that this message was false and that Israel drew first blood. Indeed, the militaries of Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and Egypt were largely on the defensive for much of the war. To not agree with this would make Mr. Villman a conspiracy theorist.
Tim King September 15, 2006 8:56 am (Pacific time)
Stan, I am honored that you took the time to share the information on Mike Weeks. It was getting a little long in the tooth if you know what I mean. I think ol' Mike's future comments are now on the verge of earning our rarely used "flush button" a.k.a. the delete key. We really try to approve comments, we go way out on a limb sometimes with the things people write, but sometimes it just quits making sense. I've had hateful mail and comments lately with the Westboro Baptist Church people who harrass soldier/Marine/sailor funerals, and they have all earned the dubious honor of the flush button. What a group to be a part of Mike.
Again, it is a humble honor to have you here Stan and we are very sorry for what happened to you and your shipmates aboard the U.S.S. Liberty.
When ever the Liberty attack by Israel appears in any form, radio, TV, internet sites, etc. , Mike Weeks and several more just like him show up to spread their line of BS ! From a Survivor of the USS LIBERTY murderous attack on our ship, these are truths that he and others try to make anyone interested in the Liberty, appear as uninformed and not doing research. Mr. Weeks has been doing this for YEARS, I'm not sure if he gets paid by Israel to search the web everyday to spread his words of wisdom, or if he just doesn't like US Military personnel. Truth: The attack was an intentional act of murder There has been only ONE actual investigation of this attack, done by the US Navy, and has been proven to be a fraud. This is the only attack on a US Navy ship, not investigated by the US Congress, nor will they even talk to us about it. We have been labeled as "anti semetic" and worse, which is the way Israel and people like Weeks operate. You dare say anything critical of Israel, you are labeled and you are just a hater. Keep up the good work Tim.
That's cool Mike, you made your point. I am surprised that somebody who claims to know so much about American military matters, seemingly cares so little that our guys were murdered that day. It's just good to call the kettle black sometimes, I would estimate that at least 95% of Americans do not know about what happened, but they could hear "Islamic terrorist" a thousand times on American television without hearing a single negative uttered toward anything Israel may have done wrong. The title by the way which seems to irritate you so much, is completly accurate.
Mike Weeks September 15, 2006 1:19 am (Pacific time)
Tim, I hate to break the news to you, but the 1967 USS Liberty story isn't "news", so I can't figure out how you can claim that what you wrote has anything to with the "news world" -- but I assume you thought it important to get folks attention by the title chosen. And finally regarding the F-4s; if you get a chance, again talk to some former USN/USMC F-4 crew members and ask them about fuel flow and afterburning. Mention that the model is the F-4B (w/ -8 J79 engines), and on the carriers in June 1967 they were configured w/ wing drop tanks (370 gals. each) as well as Sidewinder missile rails. At the AB burn rate of approx. 1500#/minute -- you get something like 10-15 minutes of "flight time" before flameout. Besides, it's quite clear how long it was going to take for the aircraft to reach Liberty -- 90 minutes. Can't see how you can knowingly ignore that statement from the 6th Fleet. As to your "recommended" web site, well there's more than one out there, and that's been mentioned previously. Perhaps a more reasonable approach would have been to do a wider search of the subject and given folks a few choices -- instead of only one. But then that might not have made any sense given the chosen title, right?
Tim King September 15, 2006 12:03 am (Pacific time)
I'm sure I didn't do it justice, but I seem to have caused more than a few people to think about it and that was a primary objective. I'm just as critical of any nation that makes glaring military errors and fails to make them right, if that is even a possibility. I will try to find that article that you mentioned, thanks.
eqriddler September 14, 2006 11:57 pm (Pacific time)
Tim, I usually advocate responding JUST to an article objectively, avoiding name calling (even if someone doesn't understand but should). You knew this was a divisive issue before you wrote it. Truth. It became all the more dangerous when you realized you couldn't do it justice. Truth. I too am interested in the truth as I believe YOU are, so I leave this comment on the article as well; God's chosen people are not immune to mistakes. They are examples of how God loves all of us and keeps His promises. The real reason behind the attack may be discernable but the overarching truth is it's not God's fault, it's because of sin. This is not a non-answer but it's not a wanted answer by most either. If you have a minute, read an editorial review on a book entitled "Eye to Eye" on Amazon.
Muchas gracias Amigo Albert!
Israel is so Holy....give me a break!
Good Work Tim! Don't let people who have bugs in their bonnet wear you out.
That's the way we do things in the news world sometimes, if we don't get their attention then they never see it. Blame it on the mentality, sure worked well in your case. You are entitled to your opinion, you obviously have spent some time with this. But F-4's have drop tanks and the "few minutes" figure is completely off track. I've never flown an F-4 but I was around their pilots and crews as a Marine myself. F-4's come in so many configurations and models, you can't throw out generalities like that when you require such specifics from me.
I think you need to go back and read the definition of false too. You're grabbing onto facts and figures and touting them as the truth and I have no idea where you are in terms of expert qualifications.
And what do you think my political agenda is anyway? Why do guys like you always have to throw out the same stuff? You have heard my agenda time and time again here in this thread; I believe in bringing out the truth. You throw all of this out and yet I concluded the article with this: "I can not do this story any real justice, anyone who is interested should visit this site where you can spend hours reading about the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty: http://www.ussliberty.org/" directing people toward a real source of information so they could learn more. That's the way I like to do things, never claiming to be an expert, and always willing to send people off to a better source after giving them an idea of what it is all about.
Tim, It's a most simple "fact of life" that not all previous events are going to be remembered by all who come after said event, or even in some cases while the event itself is still news. I am indeed aware, in at least general terms, of all those other events you mention. I enjoy the study of history. That's not something everyone likes to do. However I'm not fond of folks who put forth such ridiculous titles as you have done here -- it shows a complete lack of simple fact checking and points more towards a political agenda. As to this one specific point; I certainly hope that this ex-USMC pilot you met was previously USN, as my research indicates that there were no USMC exchange pilots assigned to VF-31, VF-33, VF-102, or VF-103 -- the four F-4 squadrons aboard the two carriers in June 1967. And yes Tim, I do know that indeed a F-4 which reaches Mach 1 or greater is NOT going to stay in the air very long, and will flame-out long before going anything close to 500 miles. Hitting afterburner sucks the fuel at such a rate that the F-4 will become a poor glider w/in just a few short minutes. Again, here's what the 6th Fleet commander told his superiors as to the length of time it would take for the first launched aircraft to reach Liberty: "4. ETA FIRST ACFT ON SCENE ONE HOUR PLUS THIRTY AFTER LAUNCH. ESTIMATE LAUNCH AT 1345Z." That's 90 minutes flight time; because the F-4 jets could not reach Liberty if they went supersonic (and the A-4s [launched also] were subsonic in anycase). That gives you an idea of just how far a distance from any help was the Liberty. Why that was the case might be of interest for historical study purposes, but it sure as heck ain't as sexy as the title you picked for this little essay. It's one think to encourage folks not to forget something from the past, it's quite another to encourage them to remember something which is false from the past.
Mike, you reject my simple point about the F-4 driver and yet you proceed to confirm that indeed, every possibility for the story I mentioned does exist. This man I met is a former Marine Corps fighter jock, that is a fact, but I never said I swore by his statement. I just said that is where it all begins for me. BTW Mike, I'm sure you know how long it takes an F-4 to travel 500 miles, it isn't a very long haul once you break mach.
I appreciate everything else you said, I can't stick up for the History Channel and I have seen many things there that that had major flaws in some bozo producer's quest to turn a quick buck.
But I know many people would like to see history remain buried. Once a generation or two passes, people tend to forget everything, that is sad.
Then you get things like "Holocaust revisionists" who are stupid, ignorant bullies (there, I did it again) with single digit I.Q's like most racists and those inbred folks in the lower states who live by a culture of racism.
Here are a couple of other facts that are intended to disturb the peace...
Do you know American WW1 veterans set up a tent city on the White House lawn during the Depression? They said a veteran's payment they expected and were promised was never delivered. So what did our fine government do? They called out a man who would go on to great fame; Douglas MacArthur, and he had his troops open fire on the veterans and their families, killing many. Like it or not, it happened.
Does anyone remember My Lai? Several hundred Vietnamese civilians in a "free fire zone" all murdered at the direction of a Lt. named William Calley and his commander, Captain Ernest Medina. If we forget this history, then we might end up...
How about the saying "In like Flynn"? That comes from when Errol Flynn beat rape charges against a young underage girl, very O.J. Simson-esque.
How about the plight of the only black pilot of WW1, Eugene Bullard? Only France would allow this American to fly, it took the U.S. decades to finally accept black pilots. All the white people who never quite succeeded in bringing him down are wretches in history.
As long as we forget the dark history, it repeats itself and I am getting sick of it. I know people have their comfort zones and I respect that as much as I respect somebody who hears a neighbor woman screaming during domestic abuse and they ignore it. I don't think God holds out any great space for people who can't stand up and face the truth, whatever it is, and do what is right, regardless of the harm they may risk in doing so. I'm sick of the evil rulers with their heartless blue-blooded decisions, I've had it with people who "don't want to hear it" because it isn't pleasant.
I like your comments Mike, and I hope you freely write your thoughts because you have some answers. And I want to say that while I may be out of my league when it comes to Israel's Six-Day War, I'm not when it comes to a whole lot of other historical subjects in the WW1/WW2/Vietnam areas and aviation in general.
One of my projects has been the pursuit of the story of Frank Luke Jr., the WW1 American pilot who was our top-ranked ace at the time of his death in 1918. Check out www.frankluke.com when you have a few spare minutes if you are looking for something that isn't as much of a blood boiler.
Mr. King continues with these stories which have no basis in fact. He states to know a former F-4 Phantom pilot "on an aircraft carrier in the general vicinity of the Liberty." Well, for the record, there were two carriers in the Eastern Med that day, the Saratoga and America. Both were operating just south of the island of Crete, while Liberty was operating just outside the territorial waters of Egypt, near El Arish -- over 500 miles away. In my research of this subject I have talked with several F-4 crewmembers, as well as former A-1 Skyraider and A-4 Skyhawk pilots aboard both of the aforementioned carriers. Their remembrances run the range of remembering nothing specific, to that of launching then being recalled. Why were they recalled? It's not because of "not being allowed" to defend the ship for crying out loud, It was because a message came to the 6th Fleet that Israel had acknowledged attacking the ship by mistake and also that Liberty herself was stating the attack was over and she was withdrawing to the north. It's all that very simple. The documentation has been reproduced and is available at this web site: http://libertyincident.com/ (I strong urge Mr. King to broaden his knowledge by visiting that web site.) It was the 6th Fleet admiral, Admiral Martin, who ordered the recall, not anyone in Washington. Perhaps from his history books Mr. King remembers the "Big Lie" by the Arabs during the Six-Day War, the charge that the US had been fighting with Israel, and that US planes had attacked Egypt. That Big Lie was clearly one concern which Admiral Martin would have when sending aircraft to defend Liberty. Now that she no longer was being attacked and was withdrawing, there was no longer a need to have aircraft so damn close to the war. The fact that the History Channel put out a horrible story-telling (i.e., error-filled) of the incident only goes to prove one shouldn't depend on simply 35 year-old memories as always being all that accurate; especially given the amount of story-mixing which always takes place at reunions over the passing years. I can accept Mr. King's statement he'd be peeved if Egypt had attacked the ship. Is he aware that on Dec. 19, 1964 Egyptian Air force MiGs shoot down a US civilian oil company plane, killing it's crew? It was covered in the press, but there's no on-going attempt to keep this incident/story "alive" The point is that the USS Liberty incident was covered when it was news, and there's even some news coverage when certain folks attempt to keep this long-closed incident "in front" for their political purposes. However these attempts simply don't change the most basic fact, that it was a series of blunders on the part of the Israelis which resulted in the ship being attacked.
OK, I'm sorry to offend people, I knew it would happen because you can't touch the subject without doing so. I'd like to walk through some of these objections... First, it is entirely true that I probably am out of my league, I was four years old when this happened. But it irks me that the most intelligent people I run into haven't a clue about the incident when I bring the subject up. If there was widespread news coverage about it in 1967, then it is a surprise to many. There is not a single reference to this in any school text book I ever saw, at the primary or college level. That isn't to say there may not be, but it would be a rarity at best.
Mike Weeks, it would peeve me no less if the attacker had been Egypt or any other nation for that matter. If you knew me, you would know that. I know I did some name calling and I don't blame you for letting me know what you think, but do understand one thing for the record; that we at Salem-News.com are hardcore anti-racists.
Eric Villman, go back and read your history books before you knock on my door, Israel attacked Egypt in 1967 after Egypt massed troops at the Israeli border. Israel did not wait for Egypt to make a move, they felt threatened and they attacked first. In terms of war, it was a solid effective effort. And yes, it brought Israel more territory, the Gaza Strip.
I have no problem with the Six-Day War and I do not hate Israel, I have many friends who have lived there for part of their lives. I have a problem with their nonsensical actions back in '67 when they attacked innocent friends.
The "bully" comment was, I'm sure, unnecessary. But at Salem-News.com we aren't striving to fit the mold, and we are sick of the American press being cowed down and told they are unpatriotic if they don't support Bush's unnecessary war in Iraq.
And I do resent the unwavering support of Israel when so many others have been displaced as a result of their occupation. Don't think that everything going on in Iraq isn't directly tied to that unwavering support, anyone with a brain and a conscience knows that we are hated in the middle east primarily because of supporting Israel all this time.
But I guess you think it is just fine of Israel's leaders play God with country's populations and in this last round; kill untold Lebanese civilians because two of their soldiers were kidnapped.
I don't like the way they do business and it seems that the insanity of world leadership these days is all too similar.
To the third comment that was left without a name; I sense a kindness and appreciation but I really wish you wouldn't have stated "anti-semetic" because that is so unfair based on how I have lived my life. I'm just a truth seeker and I put things out there for people to think about. I should have slugged this as an Op-Ed, it was suggested by others here, but I chose not to. Maybe that was a mistake, like your anti-semetic reference.
I take it you didn't catch either of the articles I wrote about Mel Gibson's recent arrest. There are people who are anti-semetic, then there are those who just wish to call things what they are. Of course Israel is a racist land, in that non-Jewish people face many restrictions when it comes to general rights. Then there are the coutless Israeli's who have always wanted to work better with their non-Jewish neighbors.
I guess I should throw this last thing out; I know a former F-4 Phantom pilot who was on an aircraft carrier in the general vicinity of the Liberty. They badly wanted to launch and defend the ship, but were not allowed. That was my introduction to it about four years ago, and it seems all in the wake of that tim period that the Discovery Channel and History Channel started looking at the story.
No conspiracy theory here gang.
Mr. King's story is so full of factual erros, one doesn't know where to begin. Well, one place is to point to the a web site which shows "in it's entirety" the official Israeli examination of the incident; which of course counters a good number of the errors stated by Mr. King. The official report: http://libertyincident.com/yerushalmi.html It also should be pointed out that Mr. king incorrectly states that it's the U.S. government's position that only the "motive" could not be determined. In fact it's the official conclusion of the CIA, for example, that "the Israeli attack [on] the USS Liberty was not made in malice toward the United States and was a mistake." It's understood that the attack was a serious of blunders, and that no "motive" is involved beyond the normal confusion which results when a war takes place. As to Mr. king's charge that the incident has been "kept under wraps"; one wonders how that is even possible, given the wide-spread news coverage the incident generated back in 1967. Mr. King is simply confused about a long-ago tragedy and attempts to link it to his political views as it relates to his feelings about Israel. One can seriously ask if Mr. King would be so outraged if the ship had been, for example, mistakenly attacked by Egypt. Sincerely, Mike Weeks Duarte, CA
Eric Villman September 14, 2006 1:19 pm (Pacific time)
Is this really reporting? The "bully" state of Israel? I would have thought the ethics associated with those who have the duty to report the news would prevent someone from basically saying "Here is a story about a nation I hate doing something bad, sort of." The Six Day War, was NOT a war between Israel and Egypt. It was the war when Israel was attacked by Egypt, Jordan, Iraq and Syria simultaneously only to result in Israel's victory and occupation of the Gaza strip. Occupying the territory won through conflict isn't normally viewed as a bullying action. As far as the attack on the Liberty, I don't have an explanation. But apparently, neither do you. Maybe you didn't do your homework here, because your logic of "Israel is evil, and America is evil for supporting Israel," won't work into a story where we were hurt by Israel intentionally or not.
Anonymous September 14, 2006 12:25 pm (Pacific time)
Tim, you seem to believe every conspiracy theory out there, and then proceed to call others who haven't heard the rumors ignorant. And why don't people know about it? Because most likely there is nothing more to the incident--there's no need to know. Why the name calling? Why do you even care? How does it affect you today? Why are you anti-semitic in your tone? How will knowing the "truth" make your life different? I appreciate the service you provide to Salem--truly an underserved market--but I think you fail miserably when you try to write about historical events that are obviously outside of your league and expertise. Keep up the good work with the local beat, and leave the rest for the Internet community to haggle over.
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The emergency situation has had a massive impact on public life, with bans on foreign travel, schools closed, and the prohibition of gatherings of more than ten people. Football is of course affected too: the domestic championship had been suspended since the state of emergency was declared seven months ago.
Despite this, the power of football has contributed to a slight easing of the crisis. The "ll against Ebola" campaign launched by FIFA Chief medical officer Jiri Dvorak – and backed by the World Bank, the Confederation of African Football (CAF) and international health experts – is helping to inform and educate people about how to deal with the insidious illness. The crucial elements are seemingly banal things like correctly washing and disinfecting one's hands, avoiding bodily contact with affected persons, not handling the bodies of the deceased, safer sex, recognising the symptoms and seeing a doctor at once in the event of fever with Ebola symptoms.
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Florida State (1 to 4 non-home wins over top 50) – The Seminoles won 37-31 at a neutral site against #37 Oklahoma State, but they could have up to three more top 50 wins away from home at #28 Louisville, #31 Miami, and, in the ACC title game, against #32 Duke. That's still no Top 25 road games, so even one loss should drop them out of the playoff.
Notre Dame (0 to 2 such wins) – The Irish initial No. 10 ranking is probably accurate because they don't have a top-50 road win yet. However, they do have the most impressive road loss at the top non-SEC team (27-31 to #5 Florida State), and if they get two top-50 wins away from home against #25 USC and #13 Arizona State they should be in the playoffs. This order is where the teams are in the pecking order if they don't win out–not necessarily right now before they have faced some of their road tests. If Arizona State or USC beats Notre Dame at home, then the Pac-12 champ should be in provided they still have only one loss, as all already have one win away from home against a Top 50 team.
Oregon (1 to 3 such wins) – The Ducks won at #22 UCLA 42-20 and could add such wins at #24 Utah and in the Pac-12 title game, but really Notre Dame should leapfrog them in a close call if both win out.
Arizona State (2 to 4 such wins) – As the only non-SEC team with two such wins (38-34 at #25 USC and 24-10 at #40 Washington), ASU, if they beat Notre Dame at home and win at Arizona and in the Pac-12 title game, needs to be selected with four wins away from home over top 50 teams – but right now they are behind Oregon.
Arizona (1 to 4 such wins) – The huge 31-24 win at Oregon puts them on the map with three more road opportunities at UCLA, Utah, and in the Pac-12 championship.
Utah (1 to 4 such wins) – With the huge 30-28 win at UCLA, the Utes could make it with wins at #13 Arizona State, at #26 Stanford, and in the Pac-12 championship. It's been only five years since Utah blitzed Alabama 21-0 in the first quarter to win the Sugar Bowl. While the Big 12 has been the second best conference to the SEC, K-State is probably the only team that has a reasonable chance to make the playoffs based on this criteria, as the best TCU or Baylor could end up with is one road win against a Top 50 team.
K-State (1 to 4 wins) – The Jayhawks are the one Big 12 contender that already has the 31-30 win at over #12 Oklahoma, and if they can win at #10 TCU, #19 West Virginia and #14 Baylor they could leap frog into the playoffs. They are held back by being the only ranked team to lose a home non-conference game (Auburn) which probably means they still need the teams in front to all have two losses.
TCU (0 to 1 such wins) – the Horned Frogs only chance for a road top-50 win would be at West Virginia, and that just doesn't seem like enough.
Baylor (0 to 1 such wins) – The Bears only chance for a road top-50 win is at #12 Oklahoma, which doesn't seem like enough. Five of the top six teams in the Big Ten lost their only non-conference game to another Power conference, so it seems almost impossible to give them a spot for beating each other. While Michigan State is the top team in the Big Ten right now, it is actually even harder to make a case for them being included if they win out than if Nebraska or even Ohio State do the same.
Nebraska (0 to 3 such wins) – While they rank behind Michigan State now, the Cornhuskers would have the best case for a playoff bid if they won out as the only of the top six Big Ten teams with a non-conference win over a Top 50 (41-31 at home over No. 31 Miami). They have no top-50 road wins yet, but if they win at #34 Wisconsin and #45 Iowa, and then were to win the Big Ten title game over #11 Michigan State, to claim they had beaten every team they played (avenging the narrow loss at Michigan State), then you could see a bid with some losses by teams above. Seeing the nation's top runner in Ameer Abdullah (1,249 yards at 6.9 yards per carry) might be enticing.
Ohio State (1 to 4 such wins) – Ohio State did CRUSH #42 Maryland 52-24 on the road, so if they add two more road top-50 wins at #11 Michigan State and #47 Minnesota, and then were to add a win over Nebraska in the Big Ten title game, you could see a scenario with a bunch of other losses above, but getting whipped by a very mediocre Virginia Tech team at home is really tough to overcome. One of the two largest fan/alumni bases (Texas is the other) could tempt the committee.
Michigan State (0 to 2 such wins) – Right now they are ahead of Nebraska due to narrowly winning at home, but their only chances for road wins against top-50 teams are against #42 Maryland and in Big Ten title game. Even a title win would come against Nebraska for the second time – or one of three B10 Western teams that lost their only game to another power conference–a Minnesota team destroyed by TCU, a Wisconsin team that lost to LSU, or an Iowa team that lost at home to Iowa State. If Michigan State wins out, their best road win would be against #42 Maryland. Even adding a neutral site win against a Big Ten West champion seems to leave them far short of "playoff worthy" even if a bunch of teams above them lose to tougher competition.
East Carolina is the most fun "what if" on the board. East Carolina won at #44 Virginia Tech. If they could have held a lead at #30 South Carolina, and if #28 Louisville had stayed in the American Athletic one more season to give the Pirates a chance at a third Top 50 win away from home in a Conference Championship and an undefeated season, we could have had our first real discussion about a non-Power 5 team making the playoffs.
The SEC will sort itself out. Alabama is the only team in the country with three road wins against top 50 teams (#19 West Virginia, #8 LSU and #41 Tennessee), and will be favored against two current playoff teams (Auburn and Mississippi).
But between Georgia and the Mississippi and Alabama schools, it is hard to see there not being two SEC schools even if that includes a 2-loss team.


Samantha Akkineni Ruth Prabhu Born on 28 April 1987 to a Malayali mother from Alappuzha, Kerala and a Telugu father, Samantha was raised in Pallavaram in Chennai, Tamil Nadu as the most youthful offspring of the family to Prabhu and Ninette and two senior siblings Jonathan and David, while getting to be conversant in the Tamil dialect.
In spite of her blended territorial foundation, Samantha has referred to that she considers herself to be a Tamilian, as she was raised communicating in Tamil and English at home. As a piece of her training, Samantha was educated at Holy Angels Anglo Indian Higher Secondary School and after that finished a degree in trade at Stella Maris College, Chennai. Towards the finish of her college degree, she wound up engaged with demonstrating, prominently working with Naidu Hall, through which she was first spotted by movie producer Ravi Varman.
Samantha Akkineni Ruth Prabhu is an Indian performer and model. She has set up a vocation in the Telugu and Tamil film enterprises and is a beneficiary of a few honors including four Filmfare Awards. She has risen as a main on-screen character in the South Indian film industry.


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Universal Studios Orlando Plans To Reopen On June 5
By Emily Lee May 22, 2020
On Thursday (May 21), Universal Orlando Chief Executive Officer John Sprouts submitted a proposal to reopen the Florida-based theme park to the Orange County Economic Recovery Task Force. According to the Hollywood Reporter, the task force unanimously approved the plan for Universal Studios Orlando to reopen after two months of closure due to COVID-19.
Pending approval from Orange County Mayor Jerry Demmings and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, guests will be able to return to Universal Studios beginning on June 5—with enhanced safety measures instituted by the parks, of course. Universal Studios will reopen with limited capacity that will start to gradually increase as time goes on. Employees will also enforce a number of other health and safety rules for park attendance, including mandatory masks and temperature checks upon entry. Should any guest lose or forget their masks at home, Universal Studios will provide a replacement mask for free.
Universal Studios will also operate with paperless payments only via the UOR app during the initial stage of reopening. Ride lines will pivot to virtual queues via the app, as well, which allow for vastly reduced crowds waiting to board rides. Single rider lines will temporarily be shut down, too. Any ride that uses mist will temporarily forgo using it for the time being.
While Universal Studios has submitted a reopening proposal, it's neighbor Walt Disney World has yet to submit one of their own. Both parks have opened their respective shopping and entertainment complexes with enhance health and safety measures already.
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Model: The locomotive has a digital decoder and extensive sound functions. It also has controlled high-efficiency propulsion with a flywheel, mounted in the boiler. 3 axles powered. Traction tires. The locomotive and tender are constructed mostly of metal. The 7226 smoke unit can be installed in the locomotive. The triple headlights change over with the direction of travel. They and the smoke unit that can be installed in the locomotive will work in conventional operation and can be controlled digitally. The cab lights can also be controlled digitally. Maintenance-free warm white LEDs are used for the lighting. There is a close coupling with a guide mechanism between the locomotive and tender. There is a close coupler with an NEM pocket and a guide mechanism on the tender. The minimum radius for operation is 360 mm / 14-3/16". Protective sleeves for the piston rods and brake hoses are included as detail parts. Length over the buffers 28.2 cm / 11-1/8". A small brochure on the history of road number 01 519 and its restoration is also included.
Highlights: Version as a museum locomotive for the Zollernbahn Railroad Enthusiasts (EFZ), Rottweil, Germany. Continuous dome streamlining, partially open bar frame, and many separately applied details. Digital decoder and extensive operation and sound functions included.
The steam express locomotive with road number 01 519 is being done in a one-time series for its 80th birthday in cooperation with the Zollernbahn Railroad Enthusiasts (EFZ), Rottweil, Germany.


The 2017 Four Star package includes the coveted guaranteed entry to the 42nd MCM with option for a second entry to the Marathon or the MCM10K; two-night stay at the Gaylord National Resort, free parking and access to MCM Weekend events from Oct. 20-22. The events include the MCM Weekend Kickoff celebration on Friday, Oct. 20; delightful brunch with featured speaker and the pre-MCM pasta dinner known as the Carbo Dining In on Saturday, Oct. 21. Also prior to the Dining In, Four Star participants will enjoy an exclusive reception hosted in their honor by the MCM Director.
Other highlights of the Four Star package include Packet Pick-up "Fast Pass" for the Health & Fitness Expo during MCM Weekend; two Metro Smartrip cards; two free Marathon downloadable images; two tickets for the Capital Wheel; exclusive luxury shuttle service to the MCM start in Arlington, VA and access to the Four Star tent at Runners Village on Marathon morning.
The Four Star packages are $1,800 and non-refundable. Additional nights can be added during registration for the MCM Four Star program.
Those not participating in the Four Star registration program can make reservations at the Gaylord National, the MCM headquarters hotel, beginning in February at www.marinemarathon.com.
MCM Lottery registration opens to the public beginning March 22 and through March 29 at www.marinemarathon.com.
The 42nd MCM will be held in Arlington, VA and throughout the nation's capital.
Voted the "Best Marathon in the Mid Atlantic" and "Best Marathon for Spectators," the Marine Corps Marathon (MCM) honors the dedication, sportsmanship and patriotism of its participants. Also known as "The People's Marathon," runners from all walks of life participate in the MCM, the largest marathon not to offer prize money. The 42nd MCM will be held in Arlington, VA and throughout the nation's capital on Sunday, Oct. 22. No federal or Marine Corps endorsement is implied. #RunWithTheMarines.


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Ellis Island es un tema de la banda irlandesa The Corrs, editado en su sexto álbum de estudio, White Light.

Canción
El tema hace referencia a la Isla de Ellis, en Nueva York, lugar de cuarentena para los inmigrantes que llegaban a Estados Unidos en el siglo XX. Muchos de esos inmigrantes fueron irlandeses, por ello la canción menciona a Annie Moore, la primera inmigrante irlandesa en pasar por la isla.

Es el track número siete del álbum y, aunque no fue lanzada como single debido a la escasa repercusión del trabajo, fue interpretada en televisión y en la gira White Light Tour.

Créditos
 Andrea Corr: voz y tin whistle
 Sharon Corr: violín y coros
 Caroline Corr: bodhrán y coros
 Jim Corr: piano

Referencias

Canciones de The Corrs
Canciones sobre Nueva York
Canciones de 2015


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Underwood is a rural locality and town in the local government area of Launceston, in the Northern region of Tasmania. It is located about  north-east of the city of Launceston. The 2016 census determined a population of 363 for the state suburb of Underwood.

History
The area was first settled in 1854, and by the 1860s a village named Underwood existed. The locality was gazetted in 1963.

Geography
Pipers River rises in the north-east and flows through to the north-west.

Road infrastructure
The B81 route (Lilydale Road) enters from the south-west and runs through to the north before exiting. Route B83 (Pipers River Road) starts at an intersection with B81 in the south-west corner and exits to the north. Route C823 (Underwood Road / Brown Mountain Road) starts at an intersection with B81 and runs north-west through the village of Underwood before exiting. Route C824 (Prossers Road) starts at an intersection with B81 and exits to the south-east.

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Localities of City of Launceston
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Home Indie Games Through the Ages is the Best Civilization Game You've Never Heard Of
Through the Ages is the Best Civilization Game You've Never Heard Of
The video game based on a board game based on a video game based on a board game
Several times a day, my smartphone seems to seize control of my body. My day will be business as usual until I feel that telltale vibration in my pocket notifying me that it's my turn in Through the Ages. No matter where I am, no matter what I'm doing, I get to work. My eyes are suddenly glued to my screen and I'm micromanaging a complex civilization that is dependent on food, resources, science, happiness, and military power to survive.
Are my workers fed? Am I about to be crushed by an enemy aggression? Should I pursue a massive culture boost from Shakespeare and his works, or recruit Robespierre for a swift and effective government revolution? All these questions blaze through my head and more as I take my turn. It doesn't take long — one to five minutes on average — and when I'm done, my day goes back to normal. Somewhere, my cousin gets the same notification, and now he's the one that's glued to his phone.
This is my life ever since I discovered Through the Ages. I am an addict, so please send help. But also, don't, because then I might have to stop playing this wonderful game.
Note: I have not been incentivized or paid in any way to write about this game. All of the following opinions are mine, and mine alone.
Through the Ages is a digital version of a board game, but don't be fooled — it's complex and challenging in all the right ways.
Confused yet? Through the Ages has a pretty interesting story, and it's more closely tied to Sid Meier's Civilization games than you might think.
Before I go much further, you've probably gathered one thing: Through the Ages is, in fact, a mobile game (also featured on Steam). But before you let that scare you away, you should know that it's entirely devoid of the many toxic business practices that are often associated with mobile games. There is ONE upfront cost to buying the game, and once you have, there are no ads, no microtransactions, no loot boxes, no grinding, no forced progression, nothing. Just a good old-fashioned game that demands nothing of you except for your genuine enjoyment.
Through the Ages has much in common with Civilization games. In this shot, Napoleon is declaring war on Einstein, taking advantage of his military bonuses to crush a society that has decided to focus on intellectual pursuits.
Secondly, the app is based off a board game of the same name. Through the Ages is a relatively unknown game to most folks, though it might be familiar to anyone in the tabletop gaming scene. This is a civilization-building game that hits many of the same beats as the Sid Meier video games; you build a culture, cultivate it with science, religion, and military, and you manage a population that must be fed and kept happy.
Through the Ages is one of the most acclaimed board games out there, ranked #4 of all time on the popular tabletop site Board Game Geek. However, once translated into app form, the dirty truth comes out: Through the Ages excels much more as a video game than a board game. While the tabletop version is exquisite, there's so much bookkeeping and tiny components that it can easily become a slog. When all of this is automated, the game becomes a pure delight, and though it may not seem as complex, it's perfectly capable of standing toe-to-toe with proper Civilization games.
The Curious Connection Between Through the Ages and Civilization
Through the Ages isn't coy about being a tribute to Civilization. Sid Meier himself is featured as a leader.
While Through the Ages is a tabletop game, it was directly inspired by Sid Meier's Civilization. As such, you'll find many similar elements. Just like the Civ games, you're almost always bottlenecked in one area. Just like the Civ games, you can pick leaders to guide your society who have unique bonuses. In fact, Sid Meier himself is one of the leaders in Age III, an homage to the man who inspired the board game's creation.
While Through the Ages is not officially connected with, or endorsed by the Civilization games, it's a direct love letter to them, and the creators at Czech Games Edition aren't shy about that. What makes things a little more interesting, however, is when you learn about the history of Sid Meier's Civilization itself.
While Civilization is the go-to title for civ-building in video game form, the original version was actually based on a board game of the same name. Furthermore, the Sid Meier's Civilization games have had their own board game versions as well. Ironically, many gamers opine that Through the Ages is a more authentic way to experience Civilization on a tabletop than the official Civilization board games.
Before the Civilization video games existed, Civilization the Board Game started it all.
So in case you weren't confused enough, let's look at the big picture:
Through the Ages is a video game adapted from a board game that was inspired by a video game that was made after a board game, which video game also has its own board games that were based on the video game but not the original board game. What a ride!
What You Need to Know About Through the Ages
You Can Play Against AIs, Friends, and Strangers
Through the Ages excels as a multiplayer game. If you're considering purchasing it, I highly recommend you find a friend or family member to join in. But even if you don't, there are people to play with online, and if you create a game, the slots will inevitably get filled. Gameplay is asynchronous, which means that the game is "passed" to each player when it's their turn. This means games can stretch over multiple days if the players are busy, or be completed in less than an hour if they're vigilantly checking their phone.
Through the Ages excels as both a single-player and multiplayer game. Even the easy AIs will give you a run for your money.
PVP not your cup of tea? You can play the game against AIs, and they're extremely well-designed. You can set them to easy, medium, or hard, and you can bet they'll give you a run for your money. I've played the game many times over, and I have yet to beat a hard AI. They're good.
If AI gameplay sounds appealing, there are also a variety of challenges you can complete, most of which have special rules, such as everything being discounted, or having to use one leader for the entire game. You don't get anything from these challenges except for in-game points and personal satisfaction, there's something to be said about having some righteous bragging rights.
There Isn't a World Map
The single biggest difference between TTA and Civilization is the lack of a world map. While this may sound like a big, even game-breaking change, it's not as shocking as it sounds. Your civilization is represented by an array of cards and cubes, which stand in for buildings, units, and so on. While area control is absent from the game, your civilization is no less demanding to run, and military conflict is very much present.
Throughout the game you'll build up your culture and your little tableau of buildings and technologies will grow. In this sense, it's more of an intense resource-management game with a detailed (and well-implemented) Civilization theme.
There's no world map or area control in Through the Ages. Instead, there's a tableau of buildings and resources that represent your society.
It Feels Like a Civilization Game
This is probably already clear since it's pretty much the premise of the entire article, but Through the Ages feels like a civ-building game through-and-through. Here are some examples of the thematic elements that make the game feel authentic to its branding:
The more enlightened your system of government is, the more actions you have each turn
Conflict is rare when military strength is equal, but a strong military can completely obliterate a weaker one
The functional parts of your civilization have to be powered by population
But you can't have workers unless your population is well-fed
Your population will revolt if you don't keep them happy through things such as religion, entertainment, and literature
Famous figures can lead your society and grant unique bonuses
Science allows you to research powerful technologies
But you also need stone to build your structures
World wonders can grant your society permanent bonuses
It's virtually impossible to manage everything at once; you're almost always bottlenecked by something
Through the Ages is a constant balancing act between managing resources, keeping your civilization happy, and keeping up your military so you don't get dominated by a stronger opponent.
It's on IOS, Android, and Steam
I'm going to go on record saying that I seldom ever purchase apps, but I was familiar enough with the board game to give this one a shot. Not only that, I heard time and time again that there's never been a better table-to-digital conversion. After spending copious amounts of time playing the game, I wholeheartedly agree that the game is more than worth its asking price.
While $10 for a mobile game might seem steep, it's important to remember that you get a complete experience once you've paid. No ads, no microtransactions, no premium currencies, none of that garbage that is so prevalent in mobile games now. In that respect, it resembles a console indie game more than a mobile game. While smartphones are the platform, that's about the only similarity it has with other mobile titles. And, of course, it's also available on Steam for $15. I've focused mainly on the app in this article since it's the ideal vehicle for the online "pass and play" nature of this game, but you can't go wrong with the PC version.
If you're a fan of civ-building games, I can't recommend this game enough. I've been enjoying it so much that I felt compelled to write this passion piece about it — it's just that good, and anybody who's familiar with this genre will no doubt enjoy their time with it. I encourage you to go give it a shot, and if it ends up grabbing you, be sure to grab its recently released expansion, which adds leaders, wonders, and other cards. Meanwhile, If you're interested in the board game, Amazon sells it at a pretty affordable rate.
If you're a person of culture like Vlaada here, be sure to check out Through the Ages on iOS, Android, or Steam.
If you're a civ-gamer who ends up picking up Through the Ages, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts! Sound out your opinions in our comment section below, and have fun building your society!
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