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Board index Natural Sequence Farming Follow up to Peter's July 6 and 13th ABC Australian Story
Once again we hear how powerful the bureaucratic forces are
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Post by webmaster » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:37 pm
Once again we hear how powerful the bureaucratic forces are.
With lots of luck and lots of help, maybe at least we will break through this powerful barrier which is costing me and you, your friends and family and ultimately our beautiful country.
Lets all pitch in and help it along.
Contact everyone you know to get it moving.
Thank you to all of those already helping and to those who may start now.
Lonnie Lee
The Forum for Peter Andrew's Natural Sequence Farming
Location: Central Coast, NSW
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Post by duane » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:43 pm
Here is some of the feedback from the ABC's Guestbook from the 2005 Australian Story
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Name Bev Coppack
Subject admiration for Peter Andrews
Visit Time 26/06/2005 4:38 PM
Remark Peter Andrews does deserve to be a candidate for Australian of the Year. He has had the guts to keep on going to present to the Government a solution to droughts and thus affect all Australians. I would just like to be able to give him a big hug and thank him for doing something big for the environment.
Name Merv Stewart
Subject Peter Andrews
Remark Thank you Australian Story, thank you John Ryan. You have both contributed to alerting Australia to the work of a great man, Peter Andrews.
I watched the first episode and was amazed at the courage and perseverance of Peter's quest to bring about change and the conviction to the task he showed, to put everything he loved dearly at risk, truly spoke volumes about a great Australian.
Episode 2 reinforced even greater what personal sacrifices he endured, but thanks to others associated with him, he looks as though he has finally got support. Truly a candidate for Australian of the Year. Congratulations Peter, keep up the good work.
Name Janeen
Remark I feel so inept when it comes to things agricultural. I do however own one acre of land and feel that I am responsible for its development. I was fascinated by the show. How do I, with no knowledge, turn my little bit of soil into something my grandchildren will cherish? I live in an subdivision south of Brisbane. All around me are one acre and five acre blocks. How do people who live so close to each other care for the whole of the subdivision so that it is a community emphasis rather than a fenced off "I'll do it my way" approach? I have been inspired to look closer at my little land and hopefully turn it into something fruitful. It still amazes me that Australians do not grasp that we are living in an arid country and yet we are the greatest exporters of fresh water.
Name Billy Chan
Visit Time 21/06/2005 3:31 AM
Remark It was absolutely wonderful to see the exposure of Peter's 'natural sequence farming' successes - (well done AS) - a philosophy that bears remarkable similarities to a method of water conservation used by Paul Totterdell of 'Sustainable Organic Solutions' and delivered by 'Clearwater Environmental Design' based in Canberra - establishing water harvesting solutions for urban Australia - domestic and commercial - the Orana School in Belconnen ACT is a strikingly efficient though amazingly simple recent example of water use that should be considered mandatory - a must see for all development and planning agencies and authorities.
Name Paul Paul
Remark Full marks to Peter Andrews. I know exactly what he went through. I once used five hundred tonnes of mulch in my garden and the council did not approve. And I would like to point out that Peter is not the only genius of agriculture that this country has produced and ignored. There is Bill mollison's vision of 'Permaculture', and then the great works 'The City Forest' and 'Keyline. Water for Every Farm', by Mr. P.A. Yeomans. This is a masterpiece and this knowledge should be applied to the whole planet. It is everything that Peter does and I think it goes even a little further. The late Mr. Yeomans designed his land and contoured it to catch every single drop of rain and ensure it goes into the ground and any excess water is stored instead of being allowed to run off. This raises the ground water, so creeks end up being fed by spring water and lasting longer instead of being just rain off water and only lasting for the duration of the rain. Keyline is exceedingly clever and efficient and I can not rave about reading this book enough. I just wish I had some land to practice it on. You can also read the 'The One Straw Revolution', by Masanobu Fukuoka. This book is the perfect companion to 'Keyline'. Design your land by 'Keyline' and then apply the principles of 'The One Straw Revolution' and you have it. There are no excuses. The truth really is out there. You only need these three books, you can find them on the net, and we can farm and forest the world in a generation. Read these books please everybody and you'll look at the land in a different way. Paul
Name Barbara
Remark I read the brief of the first part on the Australian Story website before the program aired and couldn't wait to see it!
Whilst watching the 2nd part I couldn't stop cring......this guy has lost so much, his family has also suffered and for so long, no-one listened to him!
Thank goodness some sanity has finally prevailed and Peter is being listened to!
We may now be hopeful about our children's future's in this great land.
Australian of the Year for sure......at least!!
Wishing you and all your family much peace and success
Name Colin Edwards
Remark This is an inspiring story. The techniques Peter has evolved to control water runoff reminds me of the Keyline Plan developed in the 1950's by P A Yeomans. Although the latter technique is more complex and requires engineering skills, both methods are designed to develop a rich organic top soil layer, and preserve rainfall runoff where it is most useful. Yeomans' techniques are available through Ken Yeomans' consulting group.
Name Mary
Remark Thank you Peter for sharing your story. You are an inspiration to us all and may you succeed in getting the attention of the powers that be, so we can properly address the devastating problem of land and water degradation.
Name Dale Brookes
Subject Of droughts and Flooding rains
Remark During 1987 I was living in Wellington NSW. We had 2 floods one in April and one in August of that year. Now in 2005 the drought has caught up with the town and surrounds. My daughter's in-laws live at Dripstone just 12kms from Wellington and they have a creek running through their 850acres in need of attention. Peter's ideas seem to be the answer and it will be a challenge for my son-in-law's father to implement these changes, without help. I support Peter's ideas to the fullest and will definitely spread the word. Thankyou to the answer to salinity and erosion of our most precious land. I could only have wished for Peter to visit Dripstone and Offer his ideas in person.
Name Linda Hanlon
Subject Planting Willows in Peters story
Visit Time 20/06/2005 11:30 AM
Remark After spending 12 months of a 3 year contract to remove willows from the Hawkesbury Nepean River. I am really concerned that a native wasn't chosen to do the job that the willows were doing. Some of the trees we treat have fallen into the river and then kept growing with branches shooting upright they will eventually block the channel and will do as yet unknown damage. Surely a Melaleuca could do the same job.
Name Tom Healy
Subject Peter Andrews: Guru
Remark Well done Peter. I liked your work.Your knowledge of the land and knowing and proving how water works is a gift. I would now like this to go a step further and model your farm with the USA Dept of Agriculture computer model WEPP (water erosion prediction project)that I adapted for Australian conditions in the Williams River Catchment Hunter Region NSW as part of my final year project to gain my degree in Environmental Engineering at the University of Newcastle NSW.
Tom Healy B.E
Name Sophie Norton-Smith
Remark A heartfelt thank you Peter - the path you have chosen to follow has obviously been a very tough one and I applaud you for your dedication to it, particularly when it has quite obviously come at great personal expense to you. It is such an incredibly inspiring and hopefilled venture for Australia as a whole. I truly hope you feel that your efforts are being recognised now and you gain satisfaction and a sense of achievement for your efforts to date - even though the journey is not yet complete.
Also to your family - they have borne a lot along the way and I want to acknowledge that. Good wishes and many thanks to them too.
I hope many more of us will stand beside you now Peter and keep this moving forwards. May your dreams be realised!
Name maurice franklin
Visit Time 19/06/2005 10:06 PM
Remark thank you peter thank you abc. You have reinspired me.
Name Julie Perrim
Remark I watched the story about Peter Andrews recently with great interest and wonder why the powers that be do not take note of the achievements of Peter Andrews and adopt his methods to heal our land.
Name Brad
Remark After watching the Australian Story I realised I had wasted years at agricultural school. I have grown up on a cattle farm and been taught at school the complete opposite to what Peter Andrews told us all. All our creeks had all the willows pulled out over the years with grants from the government telling us this would improve the creek and water quality. As a family we took photos down to the creek after watching the story and realised how much damage there was.Water quality is starting to go salty and there is no wild life at all. Photos showed a running creek and this was taken in summer with no substantial rain or run off. Wildlife looks to be everyywhere. The aerial shoots taken on australian story made my father and grandfather realise we can fix this problem we have created. So to Peter Andrews a true australian for making a traditional farming family realise that we can fix this problem. I hope Peter Andrews can get articles published for agricultural schools so other young farmers can see they can make a difference.
Name L.P. QLD
Remark Many thanks for your perseverence against all odds. I hope all Rural and Urban Australians listen and copy Peters' methods.It is the only way for our childrens future. We only have 8 acres, and are trying to conserve water and soil with similar methods. It's like with voting - it needs all the ordinary people to do something themselves, instead of relying on beaurocrats, who are usually all theory & experimental, instead of using commonsense. Remember how beavers work - "nature knows best".
Hope you have a more peaceful life, knowing some people will follow these ideas and make a difference.
Name Ronda Herrmann of Lowood Qld
Subject Andrews, common sense and conservation.
Remark Somehow we have to convince "conservationists" throughout Australia that it is NOT OKAY to plant trees in natural water-seepage areas unless there is worsening erosion.
I have argued for thirty years that to plant trees that suck up surface water only encourages salt to come to the top. If you think Peter Andrews had trouble getting people to listen, you should try being a female with his ideas!
Name John Tate. Shoalhaven Riverwatch Inc
Subject Peter Andrews - An environmental leader.
Remark Peter,
On behalf of Riverwatch I just want to add to the 1000s of emails you have received on your excellent environmental work shown on ABC Australian Story.
People like yourself are an inspiration and help to keep up the spirit of the many environmental volunteers who are also doing work a little bit differently to the stand taking by the various government departments. Fortunately, we are now seeing a turn around in the attitude by State & Federal government departments. I would encourage you to submit an article to the Australian Landcare magazine to continue to spread your excellent work. (www.australianlandcaremagazine.com.au).
Well done ABC. Keep up the good work.
Name John Evans
Remark Your two-part series on Peter Andrews was the most interesting show seen for some time.
Sadly, even after proving that his ideas are viable,the bureaucrats still do not seem to be convinced. If it doesn't make money in the short term then it is disregarded. It is encouraging to see a man, against all odds,stand up for his convictions
Name Dave Cooper
Subject Peter Andrews - Fantastic
Remark Truly inspirational. You have made my day. I just wish I could afford to take my Biology students to witness some of your efforts and successes.
Name julie Stokes
Remark Here is another example of Government being too slow to respond to basics of our country.Good on you Harvey Norman,Mr Pratt for backing this amazing man Peter Andrews somehow I don't think you will be disappointed.
I feel ashamed as an Australian that this man went unrecognised for so long.
Ps. Are these programs for sale?
Name mick copas
Subject Going against the tide
Remark It takes a lot of guts to go against the the flow of the river keep up the good work
you are influencing the next generation.
Name Ron Morgan
Subject Peter Andrew's
Remark Peter Andrews practical vision is most likely to have profound effects upon this country over the coming generations - if he is listened to and not demeaned for not having a degree or a PHD etc.
Great breakthroughs are often made by people who are not constrained by some dogma or other, be it religious or scientific, in other words outside the supposed authority on a subject (the Wright brothers being a case in point with respect to flight).
Give this man an honorary doctorate, give his voice as much authority as possible, give him an AO or an OA or anything to ensure that he is heard and his vision implemented.
Name Roger Wickham
Remark Firstly, thanks to Australian Story for bringing this critically-important story to the public. You do make the best TV on free-to-air.
Secondly, I ride my motorcycle all over this great country and despair at the unrelenting broadacre clearing and farming of water-intensive crops with heavy chemical use in low rainfall areas where chemicals were previously unknown. So I hope the critical expertise which Peter possesses is recorded, so as not to die with him.
Thank God for people like him who are prepared to accept the consequences of dealing with those who for divers reasons will not see.
Name Tom Potts
Remark Now here is a bloke who deserves a medal and has my utmost respect. Congratulations Peter, and bugger those against you.(thankyou Jerry Harvey, another great Aussie)
Name David Tongway
Subject Peter Andrews Triumph
Remark I am a retired Landscape Ecologist, having had 38-year career with CSIRO. With colleagues, I developed an easy to use method for assessing "soil health", called landscape function analysis (LFA) and a more comprehensive version called ecosystem function analysis (EFA). At any time in the last 20 years, this procedure could have been used to show that Peter Andrews was doing the right thing. We have a comprehensive list of international publications supporting both the underlying science and the procedure as such. I am disappointed but not surprised that enquiries to CSIRO did not look for an input to the program from me. The procedure uses mostly visually assessed indicators and can be done by anyone interested. A manual enabling the reader to use the method is available from Fiona McFarlane at CSIRO Sustainable Ecosystems in Brisbane. There is also a website: http://www.cse.csiro.au/research/efa/
In my retirement, I give training courses to anyone interested. The prodcedure has been used from sandy deserts to tropical rain forest and landuses including rangelands, mined lands, remnant woodlands and native gardens in New Guinea.
Name Joanne Waring
Remark Bless You Peter.
I am a mother of an 18 year old Son & 17 year old Daughter. I have had the good fortune to have a Father who has shown me our beautiful countryside which has given me a thirst for information on what is happening to it.
Thanks to people like you, this land may still be beautiful for my children's children to enjoy and appreciate.
I'm so glad to see that those in control of this land are finally listening to real people like you, who are in love with this land...and taking on their advice so we don't end up with a desert oasis.
I know you have lost for your cause, but I wish you to know that we have all gained from your bravery! I am not a religious person, but I think YOU are a gift from Heaven.
Name K. Bishop
Subject A good man
Remark Peter, you are a man to be admired for your wonderful heart. What a hard road you have travelled. Your true friends and family should also be recognised for their sacrifices and faith. Thankfully we have the ABC to bring us what we all need to see and hear. As Gerry Harvey said our Environment is the most important issue today - the Government needs to wake up and take note, and we all need to show our support.
Name Bill Duffield
Subject Peter Andrews - Succes against drought
Remark Congratulations, Peter, on your success on managing a couple of properties back to healthy biodiversity. After watching your story I realised that some of the techniques that you have utilised are part of Bill Mollison's theory of permaculture. The theory of permaculture has be written into a text by Bill Mollison and is called "Permaculture - A Designers Manual". I also believe that many of these theories are based on Indigenous values and beliefs, which include respecting the natural system and carrying out techniques to enhance the biodiversity of the land.
What you have achieved is legendary and we must continue to put it into practice, as a society, in order to survive.
Name JOHN RYAN
Subject peter andrews NSF
Remark Well done producer Wendy Page. The shows have resurrected hope for ordinary Australians that a problem thought unfixable can be solved easily, cheaply and quickly. After 10 years doing stories on Peter's work for I know how difficult it is to get the message across.
Some people wanted more technical information but that can't be encompassed in one hour, not to mention the fact Australian story isn't meant to do the job of Landline.
It's a subject that could fill many volumes.
Another problem with its application is the fact it's an intuitive thing, if you don't have the 'feel' for the landscape you're never going to get it, like art or music.
I see some people have tried to let us know there's nothing new here and that lots of people in various departments are promoting this kind of thing. Unfortunately for your attempt at rewriting history I have reams of interviews and written responses from departmental bureaucrats which show this isn't so, that departments don't have the 'resources or imagination' to research and implement the strategy but it has amused me over the years to see many of Peter's once heretical ideas become adopted by various salinity committees and repackaged to look like their own.
Others have said NFS isn't a panacea. The point here is that Peter uses an holistic framework and the rules change as the conditions of the landscape change. I have seen startling results on all types of properties and no, you don't need a creek running through your place, that just happens to be the case at Bylong and Gerry Harvey's property.
For years I have lobbied every politician, bureaucrat and high profile media person I could think of to push this concept. Many politicians were receptive but as soon as they got advice from their 'people' they believed Pete was a nutter and their eyes would glaze over. Few have helped.
Federal ALP MP John Murphy wrote a letter to premier Bob Carr in 2000 advising him to implement NSF throughout the state of NSW. Independent federal MP Peter Andren arranged meetings with ministers for Pete to push his ideas. Former Parkes Nationals MP Tony Lawler also arranged ministerial meetings. But it was deputy PM John Anderson, who's copped a lot of flak for dragging the chain, who in fact is the one who against decades of professional advice risked his reputation by sending a CSIRO taskforce to Bylong. He then gave up a rare Saturday with his family to attend our field day three years ago and from that day he's promoted the concept vigorously. Like most people who are involved I believe things should move much more quickly so it's important politicians are lobbied about this issue so they feel confident enough to give it priority. And remember, the federal government provides most of the money for land care work, but it's the state government which conjures up all the rules and regulations.
There are an enormous amount of obstacles in the path of widespread adoption of NSF. There's no money in it in the short term for big companies, but it has the potential to let our kids keep our living standards and not plummet to those of a third world country which will be the case if our land continues to degrade. Chemical companies will lobby vigourously to prevent NSF as it would decimate their markets. I've been told on good authority that one chemical company has between 150 and 200 fulltime lobbyists in Washington DC alone so the behind the scenes machinations will be interesting to say the least. There's also a huge amount of money being spent on engineering solutions to salinity. Where Pete would set up a low cost bank and have two streams of water hitting each other to create a venturi effect and take the power out of the flow 'naturally', an engineering company might use a million dollars of taxpayers' money to build a huge concrete structure. There's also the kilometres of channels being dug across the nation which most people who viewed the program would now regard as an incredible practice. But, there's huge money involved in digging those channels and a fair few reputations on the line.
This has been a major problem all the time. If Pete was right, it would have meant all these scientists and bureaucrats were wrong, and the public may have started to wonder why they were being paid to do the wrong thing.
John Howard is on the record as saying it will cost $60 billion to fix the salinity problem. How could he possibly come to this figure when he doesn't even know how to fix it. But I bet all the big engineering firms would have rubbed their hands with glee and begun scheming how to get the biggest possible slice of those billions.
Field Days: they will be happening but the response to the shows has been so overwhelming it's caught everyone off guard.
A 100 page background information pack will hopefully be posted on the website in the next couple of weeks. It contains some technical data, a lot of overview stuff and newspaper articles.
Name Steve Black
Remark Just did a count back, over 200 comments, all positive (except towards those who resisted Peter) showing the importance of this story to Australians. Well done Peter, ABC, and you viewers. There is compelling evidence for a major change to our political landscape.
May Is suggest we all nominate Peter for the Landcare awards? http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/20 ... 377665.htm
Name brian jackson
Remark Peter must have "apprentices" so that his knowledge is passed from his generation to the next
Name graham arnold
Remark Finally recognition for all those years of struggle.
Doors and minds have started to open.
We are indeed the lucky country to have you Peter.
Many congratulations.
Name Glenn Manga
Subject Peter Andrews, Ecological Economics and NSF
Remark Enormous thanks must go to Peter Andrews for maintaining such a visionary effort despite extreme self-sacrifice and hardship. It is very inspiring to finally see someone (despite all the obstacles), find a way forward in terms of sustainable development and wise use of water, and in most remarkably being able to rescue land that has partially succumbed to salination.
We are all hoping that this remarkable effort can be replicated in other areas, and that it becomes a common component of the practice of ecological economics in this country. (As opposed to the dysfunctional path of selling water rights to the highest bidders such as cotton farmers or international gold mining companies for their cyanide leaching processes). Privatisation and selling of water rights must take a back seat to what is required for the local ecology and sustainable ecological economic practice for our long-term future. Many others and I would like to see regular updates on Peter Andrews work, and the progress in the adoption of Natural Sequence Farming in Australia. So thank you too to ABC and we look forward to more.
And thanks to Gerry Harvey and Richard Pratt too for doing what the government should be doing.
(PS Could you please repeat parts one and two again together as one episode soon for those of us who missed part one!)
Name Shayne Palmer
Subject Congratulations Peter
Remark After watching Australian Story I could see exactly what you are trying to achieve. You are right in what you are doing. I really hope that your efforts are shared with farmers and councils right across Australia. We must learn to "live" with the land rather than trying to "Tame" it. Life can only survive with water and that means restoring our waterways. Good luck in the future. we need people like you!
Name Sheila Newman
Subject Closed systems
Remark Hi,
My viewing of the program about this magnificent man was interrupted but my impression was that he was working on a closed system, which means no external trade.
I think this is what we have to do, but I don't think that any of our politicians or the industries currently involved in agriculture and water 'industry' will allow us to do what we need to rehabilitate this land.
Sheila N
Name Sandra Heuston
Subject Of Drouhghts and Flooding Rains
Remark I applaud you Peter Andrews for having the courage of your convictions. Your contributions to restoring part of the Australian landscape will be a wonderful legacy to yourself and to those indigenous people who taught you how to read the land.
Name Louise Skidmore & Randolf Olsen
Remark Excellent two part program showing Peter's approach.
However, he is not alone! We have been using this approach to land reparation/rehabilitation on Darling Downs black soil floodplain since 1986 - and with similar results. We too have been ostracised - mostly for being certified organic since 1992, but also for our unorthodox weed control. (He who laughs last....our property is looking pretty good considering we are in drought!)
Until we get younger farmers around here with more holistic approach it will be a while before farms are managed to keep water rather than hurry it up off the farm, taking the topsoil with it. Louise
Name Bruce Munday
Remark The Cooperative Research Centre Salinity publishes a bi-annual magazine titled SALT, each edition of which features case studies of Australian farmers telling their own story of how they are dealing with salinity on their farm.
The most recent edition (Issue 12) will be mailed to subscribers (free) next Tuesday (21 June) and once again it features 8 new case studies, each with an accompanying Science-behind-the-story column.
Whilst all of these case studies have elements in common, particularly the enthusiasm and determination of the farmers, they also all show that there is no single solution to salinity – there is great variation in the climate, hydrogeology and agricultural enterprises across the Australian landscape.
Issue 12 of SALT magazine is now on the CRC's website.www.crcsalinity.com along with previous editions and a subscription form if you would like to be on the mailing list.
Name Paul - The Steward
Remark I feel absolutely ashamed of myself and every other Australian because we have allowed our "dopey" rules and regulations that apply to the functions of nature and mankind, to take away "the naturalised" Tarwyn Valley and its 30 years of landscape stored research data, from Peter Andrews and thus induce his derelict state.
How could we do such a deplorable thing?
But then what do humans normally do to anyone who "shows" an advancement in human thinking (Gallileo, Martin Luther, Mandela, etc.).
Exactly what we all have done to Peter Andrews. Systematically remove them from society!
I vote we, each and every Australian, "give back" the now back-sliding "normalising" Tarwyn Valley to Peter Andrews so he can continue his work to benefit himself, his family and all Australians, individually - today! Unless this happems, Peter's intense thoughts and practices of nature will not be available to benefit the common man. Without that which is "lost" to him and us (a 30 year old working model), implementation/education/training/further development in these established principles across the continent cannot happen!
The natural landscape's retention mechanisms of hydration and the natural "re-storing" of carbon and moisture regimes throughout our continent are not even allowed by our human regulatory systems - how dopey is that?
Nor do those regulatory systems even imagine the possibility of such a science that could help. Yet these bureaucratic systems feel qualified to control communities from the top rather than facilitate the activities of nature and mankind at the bottom.
A change in policy, not people, is called for here!
The only people who believe in this science are those who are experiencing it, and the folk who understand this natural technology, are those living their natural lives, functioning as the technology.
Another thing we can all do to help Peter Andrews and ourselves directly, is to register and take part in, the Natural Sequence Farming tri-level education/training, national programme, each to the level of individual capacity, urban and rural.
Realise that it is "we" who are"they" that have resisted the uptake of this complimentary science.
Also become aware that the recognised problems in our landscape are, after, only human!
Name John Polglase
Remark Thank you so very much for publicly-airing such vital information. However, your Story is really an old one with an old cast: there is the persecuted prophet with a few faithful supporters; there are the fearful opponents - production-centric agri business and reputation-centric scientists; and last but not least, there is the weak and ineffective government.
Name Elspeth Maconachie
Remark I made a point of watching AS hoping for something interesting. It was a revelation and made me keen to show my support for finding ways of waking up the rest of us to such uncommon common sense.
Name Rob Hockings
Remark To Peter, what an inspiration !!
My wife and I just bought a new property that had creek flats and lush grass. An oasis given the surrounding area (dry and dusty). The property has been substantially untouched but grazed constantly - and the pasture was still lush. After seeing Australian Story (Parts 1 And 2) we looked at all the photographs we had taken and to our astonishment Peter was reinstating what nature had created on our new property. A real wakeup call - we need to now retain this valuable resource and not undo mother nature. This will keep the property viable. To Peter my sincere thanks for your persistance and sacrifice. To State and Federal Governments - Peter's ideas and concepts need to be retained and taught. He also needs to be acknowledged for his efforts and contribution. To his supporters - my thanks for sticking with Peter and helping him bring this information to all of us. To the ABC - a job well done !
Name Ross Anderson
Subject Peter Andrew
Remark Good on Peter for keeping on with his mission, it looks like a revolutionary approach. Its a real pity though, that for someone so intent on getting his ideas out there that the ABC provided little technical information on the practices that he promotes. Only on the ABC website have I found sources of information that allow me to learn about the system that Peter has spent his life trying to getout into the public arena. Com'on ABC help circulate the details..
Name Lesley Provan
Remark Fabulous story. I know what it feels like for people to think you crazy. My family did because I put all my money into setting up an environmental education organisation. We are now ready to provide this valuable resource to school kids and they need to be taught Peter's stuff, it is so valuable. Well done, finally someone else is proving that we need to work with nature, not change it.
Name Joanne Bosworth
Subject Of Droughts and Flooding Rains Part 1&2
Remark Peter Andrews should be congratulated for not giving up and for finally getting recognition for a major problem that is so easily fixed! It was fantastic to see Peter so committed to this and continue in his belief. There should be more of us like him.
Just Brilliant and good on you, about time.
Name James Davidson
Subject Peter Andrews' work
Remark Very encouraging stuff. The ideas that Peter Andrews is attempting to promulgate deserve the full backing of the government, agricultural authorities, etc.. I just hope they act sooner rather than it being a case of 'too late'.
Peter's success in soil and water management is surely a vindication of the art of knowing how to read the land, and having respect for natural systems and biodiversity. I was fascinated by the fact that Peter, as a lad, spent time with Aboriginal stockmen who taught him how they saw the land (as brought out in your first Austory segment of On Droughts and Flooding Rains). Whilst I certainly do not begrudge Peter the praise that he so rightly deserves, part of the credit, I feel, should have gone to the indigenous people of this country, whose contibution is too often overlooked.
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Name Kaye Black
Remark Peter, you are an inspiration. Please, please don't give up - we all need you. To all governments, please stop your politics and recognise that this is bigger than all of us. We need action NOW.
I have registered my interest in NSF as a producer but can we have more information via videos, field days or followup programs. Congratulations to Australian Story, absolutely top class!
Name april at permaculturevisions.com
Subject excellent show
Remark Having worked in permaculture now for 12 years,
i now first hand how hard it is to try new ideas, even though we have seen wonderful results on other people's property and i really commend Peter and his family for sharing the honest hardship that comes from being modern pioneers.
Name Lyn Noon
Remark What a great story. I thoroughly enjoyed both episodes and thanks to the ABC. There should be more programs on television addressing basic issues on how to protect our land. If we want to save our land, and in turn our culture, we have to look after our country. I live in the city and see a terrible wastage of water, on a daily basis. If our Governments are going to back Peter's ideas, then they should seriously look at what short sighted city dwellers are doing and start educating children and adults that water is not a bottomless pit.
Name Stewart Warner
Remark GOOD ON U PETER!!!!!
Finally theres someone who is willing to put his love of the land and future of his country before his pocket. The government should be behind people like Andrew 100% of the way in my opinion. It is a shame that environmental students have wade through loads of hogwash created by corporations about environmental threats and change.This is the type of solution that uni students should be engaged with!!! Peter is showing us ALL the way!!!
Name Jocelyn
Subject Peter Andrews, Australian Story
Remark What a truly inspirating story of ultimate vindication, in particular after decades of personal commitment and perseverance, along with family sacrifice and loss.
Peter Andrews has a vision for outback Australia; his family has the biggest heart; and ABC has the courage to tackle a controversial topic head-on. Thank you very much to you all!
Name Jenny
Subject Peter Andrews and Australian Story
Remark What a fabulous 'Australian Story'. More power to Peter Andrews and his land care methods. The obvious sadness he and his family have experienced was upsetting, but that they have found a way through that was good to see.
I hope Australian Story can keep bringing us these inspiring tales. Frankly, I don't care if I never see another word on Ivan Milat and his ilk. Australian Story should focus on the people that lift us up with their courage and dedication.
Name Nicole Blake
Subject Of Droughts and Flooding Plains
Remark I love watching Australian Story, it is inspirational and supportive of the little Aussie battlers. I recently enjoyed the show with Peter Andrews. Wow, what an amazing man. Without taking anything away from this very clever man, I feel an unsettling annoyance about all this. This gentleman learned what he knows as a child from the Aboriginal people of this great land. Does everyone forget they were the protectors of this land before we got here with our cow, sheep and crops? These wonderful human beings know more of the secrets of this land than we can begin to imagine. Why aren't we listening to them and people like Peter Andrews? It's our future!
Name lucy hinson
Subject heroes of the land
Remark my heart goes out to the wonderful people like peter who sacrifice all to keep thier vision. it never ceases to amaze me that when a person has an alternative way of looking at envoironment and comes up with such wonderful outcomes that there are always so many people wanting to knock them
i wish peter all the best for his future and i hope that finally the government will listen and follow through instead of just talking
Name gavin
Remark Morning to all,
Another day has arrived and has already consumed the 3 items I need for me to survive.
They are air, water, food.
So why does this society keep the sector that does the most to providing and maintaining the availability of the above, get so little allocation of the nations wealth?
Why are farmers in such relative poverty (to urban areas?)
Any fair thinking should be this sector does not need "subsidies" but a fair economic system.
Solve this and I think the peter Andrews of this world will have a far better chance of achieving positive for the environment.
Name kelsi uechtritz
Subject family
Remark I am proud of my family. They have been so encouraging to me and my syblings. The Uechtritz family is precious to me, especially my grandparents Alf and MaryLou.
love Kelsi
Name kayla
Subject cousins
Remark my cousins are in the uechtritz family
Name Edward Brown
Remark My heartfelt appreciation to Peter Andrews and his family for the magnitude of the efforts he has put in to his work. In my mind he is one of only a handful of pioneers with the intuition, wisdom and skills to be able to swiftly redress some of the major environmental degradation issues that are destroying the country.
I wholeheartedly agree that Peter would be a worthy recipient of Australian of the Year!
Name Lyndal Hunter
Remark Thank God for Mavericks!
Peter, are you familiar with the Amazon "Terra Prata", black soil which is very fertile and biologically active and regenerates itself.
It would be worth a look.
Name Mulga Bill
Subject What about the others?
Remark Wallace and Yoemans (Water for Every Farm) have done similar things before with farming practices and water. They've been basically ignored. Their principles were similar - slow down the water flow over the land and give it time to soak in and do good.
Name tracey cowell
Remark Peter, may I congratulate you on your passion that you have for saving our environment. You are truly one of the most inspirational people I have seen with your dedication to your dream, suffering through family tragedy and adversity to follow through with what you believe in. Thankyou so much for sharing what you and your family have gone through on Australian Story, it certainly has inspired myself and my friends.
Name Cath Eyers
Subject Peter Andrews, Austrlian Story
Remark Thankyou, for years we have been on the land and cannot believe the vendetta and hysteria to Farmers by the so call environmentalists, and green minority groups, after seeing the de-generation of the Sydney basin by the developers and townies with no consideration of the environment in development areas, finally we have been given a realist approach to water management and farming, welldone. Perhaps Sydney and other metropolitan towns could approach there problems with the same foresight and commitment as Peter Andrews has given, it has proved that majority groups have a lot to say against farming and related agriculture but cannot sustain their own impact on their own environment.
Name Janice
Subject A brilliant man
Remark With respect to the Peter Andrew's story - thank you so much Wendy and ABC - could all these emails and guestbook comments be collated and forwarded to Johnny and the boys - bypass the Min of Ag - he has known about this for over two years and how many of us struggling to regain our pastures have heard of Peter through John Anderson? He commented that he was going to re-think his farm following the results he viewed on Tarwyn but what? did he forget about it the moment he went out the gate or was it all too hard to pressure the boys to change their way of thinking and God forbid have to re-shuffle the paperwork along with the narrow minded thinking. Please everyone who is so enthusiastic in this forum and guestbook email your voice to John Howard - he does have an email address - and maybe just maybe it might seep into their tiny minds that there are people wanting to change their land for the better before it is too late!
Name Liam Fegan
Remark My wife and I agree that this was one of the most remarkable Australian stories. I have two requests...
1. Can Peter Andrew's be sent a copy of all these Guestbook entries?
2. Can the Federal Government be sent another copy?
It's clear to me that many Australians are speaking to those in authority. Get with this program Canberra and show just a little of the courage and stoicism of Peter Andrews and take your head out of this parched earth. I think that if this man is not publically recognised for his achievements then shame on us all.
Keep up the great work, Peter Andrews, Australian Story and ABC.
Name Sharon Rowe
Remark I thought this man and his family are wonderful Australians. What courage it took to go against tradition and so called experience in the land and to have a go. I was really touched by the struggles that Peter went through and would like to say that he is a fair dinkum Aussie, we should have more like him. What is it about some people that they are afraid of unconventional methods (the natural way) of redeveloping unusable land into a productive fertile land. I am a land owner, very small mind you (20 acres) and Peter's ideas were a breath of fresh air; we are inexperienced land owners and were at the mercy of the local farmers as what to do with our over weedy, bled to death of nutrients in our soil; over grazed land. We followed the advice of others due to our lack of knowledgee the use of Super and poisens to control weeds. I would like to learn more of Peters methods so I to can benefit the rewards of what he has achieved. As to the politics involved I say whoever is backing Peter, stand behind him all the way; we need people like him.
Name Anne
Remark Wow! Over 240 messages in support of Peter Andrews. I do hope his attention is drawn to them.
I've lived and worked as a conservationist for about 40 years and had become discouraged and disheartened of late, but now I feel a new glimmer of hope and optimism for our county's future.
If only this takes off!
Name Kevin Mullane
Remark I was hoping after watching "Australian Story" 1 & 2 that we would be told that Peter's theories and practices were about to be included in the ciriculum at every University and Agricultural College in Australia. No such luck.
Perhaps Gery Harvey would think about offering a scholarship so that Peter's knowledge will not be lost waiting for our politicians to get off their "backsides".
If ever there is a candidate for Australian of the Year Pete you're that candidate.
Congratulations and all the best for the future.
Name Caroline Kroon
Remark I forgot to make a very important - THANK YOU ABC!
You do such a fantastic job on a shrinking budget - how do you ever do it!
Awareness in Australia on all issues is basically up to the ABC to promote.
Thank you ABC for choosing Peter Andrews for your Australian Story. I would like to see regular updates on Peter Andrews and Permaculture (Gardening Australia frustratingly not enough)some programs on Yeomans "Keyline" techniques, Rudolf Steiners "Biodynamics" etc, etc.
I'm sure that everyone in the ABC realises now the growing interest of these topics to the average Australian, by the response to this programme.
GIVE US MORE PLEASE ABC!
Name Nicholas Gye
Remark Peter Andrews contribution to the desalination of agrarian land and the resustenance of the soil is so significant it cries out for broad scale recognition. It is he who should be recognised in the Honours List for his pioneering work. The man is a brave pioneer whi has enudured much grieg
Name Ron Forsyth
Remark So amazingly simple - right there under everyone's nose - yet so difficult to get across. Fresh water lies on top of salt water.
Everybody has watched the fresh water aquifer dry up and see it replaced with the lower salt aquifer and not spotted what was happening. Sad that it has taken a terrible drought for people to sit up and listen.
I think there will be resistance from the cropping fraternity initially many of whom lead the charge in unsustainable agricultural practices.
Congratulations to Australian Story on an exceptional programme and to Peter for his stubborn refusal to waver from his course.
Name T D Koukari
Remark You deserve a medal!
A true prophet: a visionary!
Name Rohan Koenig
Remark Glad to see that someone is looking at Australia as somewhere unique and applying land management practices suited to the environment that we live in and look at the results, healthy farm and a healthy, natural ecosystem. Peter Andrews is someone that everyone should thank for the gift he has given to us and our children as well as his sacrifice and dedication, especially because he does want any thanks.
Name Jenni Goricanec
Subject Peter Andrews story - follow-up
Remark I found this story fascinating, in that an approach that works to heal the land is virtually ignored in the 'mainstream'. I would like to follow up with Peter Andrews to document the approach(es) that he has taken to trying to get his invention established in the 'mainstream'. And continue with him as he works with this newer group of people - scientists, Gary Harvey, Richard Pratt and others. I am doing work on Water, Innovation and Actor-Network Theory as part of my PhD.
Name Frank Clarke
Remark Congratulations to the ABC for a fantastic two Australian Stories on this wonder-worker Peter Andrews. It is a noble and patriotic thing he has done to sacrifice himself for the welfare and betterment of his country. Australian of the Year doesn't cut it, he should be our next Governor General. Congrats too to Gerry Harvey and Richard Pratt for giving Peter a hand up when he was down. It will be a frosty friday in hell before he gets any significant help from the Australian government and its bureaucratic sycophants.
Name Basant Maheshwari
Remark Peter Andrews' story is a work of a great inspiration and confirms that recognition does come at the end if you are doing the right thing (no matter what others with a short sighted view of the world or out of ignorance think). Farming in Australia can only be sustained if we can live in close collaboration with natute. Peter has done well but with a great pain to show us what can be achieved for our precious land and water resources. It will be pitty if we soon forget Peter's invaluable message and insights.
Name Des Hetherton
I work with many many farmers and understand the difficulties they currently face. Peters story was refreshing and wish him all the very best of luck in his future work. I will watch closely in the future where Im sure Peter will be recognised for his work.
Name MaryLou
Remark Thanks to the ABC and Australian Story for this inspirational story. Like everyone else, I can only be staggered at the lack of any governement support for this most important experiment. Perhaps Peter should register his creek as a sporting venue and watch the money flow in!
Good for Gerry Harvey and Richard Pratt. Now it's up to John Anderson to make sure that Peter's practices are supported and adapted to other farming areas. If we don't do something soon, it will be too late!
Name Bella
Subject Peter Andrews story
Remark It was fantastic to watch the past two weeks of Australian story - congratulations to all who worked on it and to Peter Andrews for standing up for what he believed in - it was so obvious that the concept works that I find it hard to believe that we are going to have to wait for scientific evidence before Peter is totally accepted??? I look forward to using Peter's information WELL before the scientists deem it to be a worthy tool.
Name Peter Harris
Subject Peter's story
Remark A great story - Peter is an inspiration to us all. Why does this Government have to be dragged kicking and screaming to do good things. Come on John Anderson you have had 3 years and still not moved. Thanks to Gerry Harvey and his mates for their foresight.
Name Sarah
Subject re Natural Sequence Farming
Remark I've been following the forums and discussions over the past few weeks about the Natural Sequence Farming techniques devised by Peter Andrews
This work seems very promising and exciting for the Australian Landscape. However the issue of using non-native plants has been raised a number of times and I've not heard a convincing explanation about their use.
Is this because there is not a native alternative that serves the same ecological function or is there another explanation that I've missed?
Peter could you elaborate this further, as apart from this issue, your work seems remarkable.
Name Heather Pugh
Remark What a genius - the greatest national treasure of all time. He will save Australia if the government will let him. He should be on the federal government payroll NOW. He should be nominated for the Nobel prize. He should have headed the Queen's Birthday honours list. Peter, you are my absolute hero - I will never forget you. Keep strong and love your family, you will achieve. Best Wishes, Heather Pugh, Brisbane
Name Phil Hansen
Remark I think it has been fabulous that sustainabnle farming techniques, regardless of their controversial nature, have FINALLY achieved some media attention. Well Done!!
Peter's work is of obvious benefit to anyone working the land who has a heart.
I find it curious however, that the program seemed to credit him as a great genius/pioneer, when thare have been documented texts and physical examples of people doing exactly the same sort of work and thinking for more than 30 years. Does anyone remember Bill Mollison, David Holmgren or P.A.Yeomans? As a permaculture designer I have been teaching these things for a long time. The replication of natural sequences in a managed land system has been central to permaculture philosophy and practice for decades. We have been battling, like Peter Andrews, for the recognition that weed ecologies are an important messenger for the land manager and not something to be derided through total lack of understanding and discrimination. Unless land managers are capable of returning the land (including hydrology) back to pre-farming/clearing conditions, weed ecologies will continue to reflect and repair the prevailing conditions.
Name Hedley Finger
Subject Waterway flow inhibition and run-off control
Remark Those following up Peter Andrews' methods for water conservation and management may also be interested in how land contouring has been used for thousands of years to slow run-off and retain water. Google with "+(swales|contour ploughing|contour plowing) "dry land" +(farming|cropping|herding)".
Name G & J Kennedy
Remark Congratulations to the Australian Story team for bringing us all - dedicated Australian Story viewers - the life and work of Peter Andrews. We recently attended a number of the Alfred Deakin Innovation Lectures in Melbourne. One lecture in particular, "Biodiversity, Water, Energy and Society: towards a sustainable future" left us wondering if there was cause for optimism in this land! Peter's work exudes optimism and courage to go against the mainstream. Thank you all. Peter might be a wonderful recipient of "Australian of the Year" recognition.
Name Patricia Smith
Remark This would have to be one of the best Australian stories ever produced and should be compulsory viewing in every high school. I want to thank Peter from the bottom of my heart for his perseverance and courage. Also thanks must go to Gerry Harvey and the others who have so much faith in him.
Name SIMON MALONEY
Subject Peter your a " LEGEND "
Remark I AM THE VICE PRISDENT OF THE QUEENSLAND ARBORICULTURAL ASSOCIATION , A STUDYING ARBORIST,I RUN TRAINING CAMPS FOR KIDS & ADULTS ON THE BEST WAY TO LOOK AFTER OUR ENVIROMENT .BUT BASICALLY A BLOKE FROM THE BUSH. I HAVE BEEN GETTING DISCOURAGED WITH THINGS PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME ,I CAN NOT DO THINGS BECAUSE, IN SIMPLE TERMS ,IT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. AFTER WATCHING PETER ANDREWS STAND AND WHAT HE HAS GONE THROUGH TO ACHEIVE HIS DREAM ,BLOODY AMAZING. I APLLAUDE YOU MATE. THANKS FOR MY INSPIRATION AND IF YOU EVER NEED A HAND DROP ME A LINE . I WILL BE THERE AS SHOULD ALL AUSTRALIANS.
CHEERS MATE
Name John
Remark This was the best program I've seen in many years, and about the most important issue facing our country at present
Name Debbie Gadsby
Remark What a fantastic story. It breaths hope into the terrible drought environment faced by the farmers. If there is anyway that we can get behind this wonderful cause please let us know.
Name Cheryl Potts
Remark I am dumfounded that this man is being ignored by the mainstream when the evidence is speaking for itself. Do we as a nation have to go the brink before he and others like him are listened to and acted upon.The old saying continues to ring true; 'a prophet is never welcome is his own town'
Name Sally Brokensha
Remark This man is a National Living Treasure and should be accorded due respect. I know the answer but still ask the question. WHY has it taken so long for him to be listened to?
Name Bill Lane
Remark My admiration and understanding goes out to Peter Andrews.Time will prove you right.
Myself, as firstly a land clearing contractor, then farmer/agronomist and then fertilizer company owner have battle on the edge of convential farming practices for 35 years; trying to convey that farming practices and mineral deficiencies effect the soil profile and lead to mineral deficiencies in plants, animals and through to us humans. Some 900 different human diseases and birth defects are mineral deficiencies related. The science is there.The cost and suffering to the community is huge.
I am encouraged by Peter Andrews dogged determination to persue his vision of the the landscape and solutions to farming problems that also flow on to the overall environment.Wishing Peter more support in the future, you have done a bloody great job.
Well done Gerry Harvey for having the balls and the vision to see the bigger picture, and now Richard Pratt.
I am encouraged to persue my education of the community of how mineral deficiencies in the soil then our human diet effect our health and longevity.
Name Danny Hennessy
Remark Well done Peter.
In my thirty odd years of dealing with cockies, their response is "if it ain't broke don't fix it" or "yes, it might work on the neighbours place but it won't work here". I am extremely interested in your work, It has changed my whole thinking on farming, and something needs to be done. I keep saying we need to build more dams but if this system is implemented we wont need too. SOMEONE PLEASE IMPLEMENT THIS. IT JUST HAS TO BE DONE.
Name Heidi
Remark congratulations Peter. that was the best story I have ever heard. Gerry Harvey was right when he said that nothing is more important than our environment. This story should be shown to all the agronomists and scientists that work for the DPI. Our company manufacturers and sells the soilspec tensiometer system to farmers to monitor their soil moisture so that they dont over or under irrigate. Hopefully we are playing a positive roll in doing our little bit for the environment too.
I wish you lots and lots and lots of luck and happiness.
Name jan avey
Remark Speaking for our Bellingen u3a group we were gratified to hear of someone taking seriously the 'problem'of water in our country and acheiving a perceptive and positive outcome despite the usual conservative,negative, predudice which abounds both from the 'land 'and government.Let your lesson be learned and acted upon quickly by all relevant peoples before another 30 years has completly destroyed the country.Thank you.Jan and everyone.
Name Peter Schuback
Remark Back in the sixties when mass land clearing by farmers and developers realy took hold I sent letters to various ministers asking that a fee be put on every acre cleared so that that other land could be planted with hard wood plantations . I also asked that the government look at the idea of useing all of the waste that is and was being dumped in land fills for compost to be transported to areas that were no good for farming or other uses . We could have been for the last thirty to fourty years growing timber in areas that are not suitable for other uses and at the same time been useing all of the rubish that is recycable as compost . Not only would we have created long term employment and a healthy timber industry but we would have also replaced the trees that were being cleared on more productive land . NO TREES NO RAIN We need to start to replace the trees that have been cleared to balance our ecology and to start to eat up the carbon monoxides that create global warming . The trees are the earths umberalas No trees and the earth has no choice but to heat up .
I also asked that they look at drilling into the creek and river beds and put in pipes that would go to the under ground storage areas so the these areas could be refilled in rainy seasons . The pipes go to the under ground streams and are fitted with a flapper lid that can be opened when the silt has settled in the rivers and creeks to let the water then run down to the water table . This would not only refill the water table but would also help to stop salinity
Peter Schuback
Name Myles Pope
Subject Peter Andrews (Austory)
Remark Fabulous programme. Well done ABC too. A challenge to Australian society to open minds and embrace new and different ideas on all topics, not just the environment. Love to hear more of Peter's ideas and particularly for dry block farming! Let's make the most of his ideas for river system repair. Thanks Peter, your personal sacrifices have not been in vain! Thank you.
Name jeff daly
Remark I have learnt a lot from Peter Andrews in just two occaisions that he has featured on your program, and to me what he is saying makes sense, if u look at around at some suburban areas where weed have been left and then inspect the "cleaned" area that is devoided of greenery in the dry by comparision to the "swampy lot" then a lot of what Mr andrews is saying makes a lot of sense, Mr Deputy Prime Minister two years since u visited Peter Andrews work and u still have done nothing, shame, shame, shame. i had give you more credit then that...jeff daly
Name Paulette
Remark Peter's work is fantastic! We have to listen to him. Who do we have to contact in Government to have Peter's methods implemented?
I missed the first part of this story and would love to have both parts repeated again at some time. Thanks ABC for bringing this to all our attention.
Name Peter
Subject Peter Andrews & Gerry Harvey
Remark Congratulations Peter, you are a gutsy pioneer in the bureaucratic wildnerness. You should have a great future in consulting practice to reform much of our devasted landscape and as a nation should support you in doing this. I am pleased to see some of our scientific and government communities are now lending their support.
Gerry Harvey - thank you for having the vision and common sense to support a man who should be celebrated as one of our future heros.
Name Colin
Remark Wonderful program on 13/6 about an amazing man and his commitment. Reading the postings it appears Peters ideas will not solve all of the rural water conservation problems but how much of the country would benefit. I think about all of the water running into the sea in FNQ and the NT. How can we urbanites help him achieve his vision?
Name Bruce Fuller
Remark Thanks to all concerned for bringing Peter to our screens, to see someone with such heartfelt conviction and passion for his much needed work is a joy. I feel as if I need to get up off the couch and also try to make a difference, even if only in a small way., Keep going Peter.... THANKS.
Name Deirdre Stein
Subject Peter Andrews great work
Remark I visited Peter about 30 years ago and he told us all about his vision for his stream. It is great to see that he has succeeded and is getting credit where due. I'm sorry that it has taken such a heavy personel toll and hope that the future is kind to him.
Name Catherine McGovern
Remark A truely an Australian Inspiration. Congratulations to Peter and hope that he shows all those non-believes a thing or two. As they say...the proof is in tbe pudding!. May the Australian Government get behind you and your fantastic ideas to preserve our great land.
Keep up your great work.
Name Paula Klavins
Subject Peter Andrews Australian Story
Remark Only saw halfofthe program but hope to see the show repeated asap. Thank God for People like Peter. Hang in there Peter! Thank you for doing just that and showing the way against such heavy odds. Friends out in the west of NSW will be hanging on your every word.
Cheers to you Peter,
Name Patricia
Remark History will prove the brillance of this man. Let's hope he will be recognised for his contribution before he becomes history. History has shown many great men paid a heavy price in their personal lives. Gerry Harvey and Richard Pratt are to be applauded for supporting mankind's future. To the knockers remember " Man will never fly"!.
Name g lanham
Subject good on you peter
Remark like you i do things the way they should be all be it on a smaller scale residential
i have an eastment in my front yard full of life because i wont pipe it which is the norm?
my front yard is alive just like peters land
we have something in common natural water courses is better than man made blunders
that follows the status quo
Name ursula
Remark Australia needs people like Peter and we need an independent fearless ABC to bring us this information. Stories like this are inspiring. This is a critical issue for the future. We don't need to waste billions of dollars on flashy infrastructure projects - we need more of us to have this understanding and knowledge of the land. Let's hope Peter's vision and persistence pays off and Canberra wakes up before it is too late that projects like this need to be funded and supported. Like others I'm sorry that Peter and his family have suffered so much in the process.
Name Gavin Keeble
Remark Without exageration Gerry Harvey said the most important thing in Australia is our environment. Peter Andrews has, for all the world to see, unlocked the secret to having lush, sustainable pastures. And yet, we still have silence from the state and federal governments - together the most overly politico-bureaucracy on earth. The evidence is a priori, why do we need more scientific research. Peter Andrews is a genius, he should be knighted, rich and above all happy. What has he done to deserve his situation - provided the solution to Australia's biggest problem. I shed a tear tonight for him.
Name jo
Remark We have land 2 hours NW of Sydney on the Coxes River (which feeds sydney water supply). It is a very hilly, undulating landscape and currently drought ridden, although the river is still flowing (just).I would love to know if Peters' theories would work in this kind of valley / river situation??? please... who do I contact about his "model farms"?
Name Andrew Fillery
Remark Get this man in charge of the Murray and Darling rivers and do it now!!!
Name Chris Eastaugh
Remark Science has never held all the answers to the Australian landscape, and probably never will. The situation as it stands now is the result of 200 years of expert opinion and legislated practices, often against the better instinct of the land managers or farmers themselves. Any mangement system should have a valid scientific basis, but the difference that Peter's work demonstrates is that a certain amount of 'artistry' in landscape design is also needed, rather than bureaurocratic prescriptions - in short, Agricultural Engineering.
The risk with Peter's system is that it will be debased to become no more than just another set of rules.
(Since the mid 1990s there has been only one university in Australia teaching Ag Engineering; USQ in Toowoomba, which turns out 6 or 7 graduates each year).
Subject History says it all
I wish my father could have seen your programme. (He died two years ago at 83.) For most of my life he complained about what the farmers were doing to the land; he also complained bitterly about what was done to the rivers in this country; he saw what you saw, but he was a lone voice. Do you know that in the 1880s an engineer reported to the government that the salt table would seriously rise if they continued to cut down the red river gums. But the politicians of the day were as unscrupulous as they are today, and, as you know, they set up a subsidy to destroy trees even if the land was not used. I understand your struggle - all described in Napolean Hill's book on motivation against the odds. But all politicians are just in it for themselves and not for the country, so we can't expect anything but "cost savings" from them.
Good luck, from a fifth generation Aussie.
Colin Carter
Name John Thannhauser
Remark Mr Peter Andrews will be the Australian of the Year for 2005 or 2006.
The man is extraordinary and an exceptional visionary. John Howard where are you????
Where do I send my contribution of a $1000 to the consortium developing and promoting his agricultural model.
My very best wishes and success for this amazing individual.
John Thannhauser
Name Daan Spijer
Remark This country will eventually be saved from its own follies by people like Peter. It is the 'crazy' pioneers, who are willing to sacrifice all to achieve what they see as true, who lead the way for others to (eventually) follow.
Good on you, Peter, and those of you who are now supporting him in a meaningful way. We all owe you a great debt. Thank you.
Daan Spijer
CEO, ACNEM
Name robert bosshard
Remark Thank you for working with nature. As human we always tend to take the easy way with quick result without lookink at long term solutions. This is very difficult for farmers who must live and love nature. It is up to the all society to help farmers to harmonise more with nature and ensure that they can still have a decent income in the short term but certainly they in the long term for all of us.
Name Simon Nott
Remark I was undoubtably impressed with this mans courage and knowledge. Having grown up and lived on the land and now as a manager I believe we are all custodians and should create a better place than what we found. For all those negative and critical people out there maybe its time you pull your head out of the sand and listen. Who knows you may learn something!!!
Name Dallas Bellamy
Subject biodiversity
Remark Leonardo da Vinci was not fully appreciated in his lifetime and I'm afraid that Peter Andrews will suffer the same fate. But rest assured that the notarity of the former will surely fall upon Peter Andrews, for he is surely the modern day equivelant and has to be bestowed the title of 'genious' in any true sense of the word.
Name Susannah
Remark Not often do middle-aged country women talk in the supermarket about heroes, but in this rain-forsaken town we did - about Peter Andrews.
Peter Andrews simply IS a hero in the true sense of the word - one who has given everything for the greater good of others (and not just human others).
If our white "culture" here were not so empty of its ancient dreaming stories, we would remember that the Wild Man, Merlin, is only asleep in Nature and that he still calls to those who will awaken to their responsibility to heed Natures's cries for help and healing.
Almost alone amongst us, Peter has heard the call and answered.May we all be inspired to do similarly.
Thank you Peter, thank you, thank you, thank you. May your days be long in this land.
Name Janine Toscan
Remark Why do you need scientific evidence when all the proof you have is before your eyes!! Just because he is not sitting in a leather seat, air conditioned officer and his title is not CEO of some bloody company, or he doesn't have PROFESSOR before his name, you aren't prepared to listen to him. It's quite often the simple answers are right in front of you. You have to have bloody scientific proof or a piece of paper to justify it..... WHY? It works, so why question it, just bloody do it!! You are all just jealous that he thought of it and not YOU! You are all jealous that he didn't have to go to university to think of a simple solution. GROW UP, AND GET SERIOUS ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT!
Name Satori
Remark I have just moved onto 100 acres on the dry side of the Hume Highway in the Southern Higlands. It is dry. Where can I find out more about how to implement Peter's methods?
Name Jacqui
Remark I am amazed at what Peter Andrews has achieved; Peter your courage under diversity
is very admirable. Tracey Gregory mentions her disapproval with the use of weeds to regenerate - I bought property severely damaged by bad soil management. It was compacted and erosion was quite bad in several paddocks. There was hardly any grass cover. I have let the weeds grow and slash them regularly. What is happening is that the weed mulch is starting to turn into good compost. Peter you have motivated me and given me several ideas about damming water and using it to flood my paddocks and so improve the health of the grass cover that is starting to return. I have native grasses and other good pasture grass returning. We need more people like you.
Name rick main
Remark Even if (note the 'if') his methods won't work everywhere let's make sure we take them on it where they will. What is there to be lost? More to the point though is what there is to be saved.
I can't recall where I first came across this phrase but it is pertinent here:
"There are none so blind as those who cannot see".
Name Bill Chilcote
Subject Monday 13-06-05 Program
Remark People never change easily. This was said many years ago:
"There is nothing more difficult or perilous in its undertaking than to take the lead in its introduction of a new order of things. For the innovation has as enemies all those who have done well under the old order of things, and a luke warm reception from those who may do well under the new." (quote from Nicolo Machiavelli 1502)
Let's hope for the best!!
Good Luck Aussie Land,
Name Denise Miller
Remark Great Men pay a great price for the good of the precious earth. I congratulate Peter Andrews on his wisdom and I pray that all he has paid for his beliefs will some day be appreciated.I wish him happiness.
Name Barry Mews
Remark What love for the environment this man has. He cares enough for this land to give all. This man ought to be recognised in the Queens birthday honours.
Name pg olsen
Subject Peter Andrews.
Remark Well done Peter.You are a genius.
Give the Dept PM an upper cut.How disappointing.Move forward,don't procrastinate.Get rid of all of rules and regulations,and give this man the deserved back up he needs.
Name Felicite Gunther
Remark I cannot explain the admiration I have for this man of vision. He has lost so much to gain so little, but had the courage of his convictions. Finally now he is being recognised as the genius that he truly is. I only hope that he finds personal happiness and fulfilment because God knows, he deserves it.
Name Peter McLeod
Remark Are you the same Peter Andrews who lived out of Broken Hill?
Name Andrew
Remark Would loved to see part 2, however, ABC tv is off the air (Orange NSW)
Name Michael & Carol
Subject Nothing new...
Remark Good on Peter for getting people to listen. However many other people have said the same thing (Yeoman, Permaculture) or are out there doing it - without any recognition.
Some people have commented that this can't be done without permanent water. Well it can. The major problems with most properties is that the topsoil is compressed. Take off the heavy machinery, take off the overstocking, start giving back some of the organic matter and the entire farm becomes one giant sponge. We did it on 40 acres up near Gympie. During heavy downpours the water would sheet off our neighbours farms - but we never lost a drop, it all soaked in.
I predict people will listen to Peter up till the next rain, then go back to what they are comfortable with. Probably why most of us doing it (or did it) don't bother telling anyone.
Name Peter Andrews
Subject Response to Tracey Gregory
Remark Plants prepare and then maintain a landscape for the evolution of animals into those conditions. If we introduced 200 different species of animals and birds, agriculture, human structures and industry why expect a group of plants never subjected to those conditions to cope with the change.Assessment of Australian history since the introduction of man should indicate where the true appreciation of scientific principal should be headed. May I draw your attention to some facts. Since the introduction of Aborigines the bio-diversity has been reduced to one third. Forrests have assumed a status of fire induced survival. For the uninitiated scientific person may I use an example. Every living thing requires carbon compounds therefore the more available these compounds are the more living processes. If you burn, the compounds are converted to gas.You express yourself as as an Australian wetland expert, I have not yet seen a reproduced Australian wetland that functions as our landscapes require.Please if you want to cast aspersions on your scientific colleagues do a bit more research.
Name Terry Tucker
Remark Three cheers for Peter Andrews, if only we had a Government with the same forethought and ambition and sheer courage to help solve our water problems as with Peter Andrews. Peter you have my vote, my only regret is that you had to lose so much for your principles. Looking forward to the next edition and hope that John Howard is also watching.
Remark In terms of the environment his ideas may have merit, but how does it relate to producing food. All food requires water to be used and then removes NUTRIENTS and WATER from the farm to the consumer that must be replaced. 1 kg meat removes about 70% of it's weight, even the humble potatoes and tomatoes remove about the same. We need to try and see his work not in isolation but how it contributes to the primary need of providing food for the nation to keep it all in perspective.
Name Rick J
Subject P Andrews
Remark Good stuff Peter - but let's not get carried away here ABC. Peter's work is NOT the answer to all our environmental problems! As someone who has worked for many years in the field of stream management, I found it strange that this program presented Peter's work as if it were something new and revolutionary. There are (thankfully) many observant and thoughtful landowners working to restore our rivers. But the techniques used have to match the river your working on. Peter's work is fine for chain-of-ponds systems but they're not going to work eveywhere!
Name Roy Lee
Remark Good on you Peter!
I would like to offer the services of my business to provide you with a free website to help you in your strivings for better communication of your vital message!
Just use my return email link to get in touch.
Name Simon
Remark I have just got around to watching the 1st part of this 2 part series and am so glad I didn't miss it and will be watching part 2 eagerly. Well done, Australian Story (again). It's just such a shame that this man has had to go through some much pain and hurt for 30 years to, just perhaps, gain just a small element of the recognition that he so obviously deserves.
Name Thea van Zoest
Subject Peter Andrew "Of draughts and flooding rain" Give nature a chance
Remark I can relate to Peter Andrews because I know his method is a natural common sense solution.
I have been trying to do the same in relation to "Organic Waste Recycling". For 40 years I have grown crops in Europe, Africa and in Auastralia without the need for chemical fertilisers or pesticides because I allowed nature to turn organic waste into fertile soil.
This is done in windrow style waste recycling systems ON THE GROUND. All that is needed, is a carbon/nitrogen balance and the correct amount of moisture. Nature takes care of the rest.
After a few weeks all the organic waste has turned into fertile soil (vermicompost).
There is so much organic waste all around the world. If we would only organise it in such a way that nature gets a chance to turn it around into organic plant food, then nobody would need to go hungry.
Like Peter I tried and tried to knock doors for 25 years. Even when people saw evidence, they still didn't want to take it on. Too much opposition from Health and Safety regulations, Standards etc.
I was very frustated and gave up 5 years ago. Peter I respect you greatly and I admire your perseverance.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASSIST YOU IF POSSIBLE.
"Keeping our natural world alive"
Within each of us a secret gift
Waiting to be shared
waiting to be aired
Growing day by day
Looking for a way, to play a part
In a better, richer future
For our children's world to last.
Respectfully, Thea van Zoest
Name Alexander
Remark A truly wonderful Australian story. I hope Peter's legacy of knowledge is harnessed and applied throughout our country. I'd like a DVD of Peter's story. I know a few teachers that would cherish this story as a rich resource for young minds. Young minds that need to be challenged by Peter's wisdom.
Name Albert Bainbridge
Subject Peter Farmer 5/6/05
Remark Great story!looking forward to the next installment.All landholders should be following his example.The Federal Govt should be Funding his work.Why aren`t they???
Name Janet Smyth
Remark I always new Peter would succeed in his dream to droughtproof his propert. I did a great deal of typing for him on this subject. Good luck Peter don't give in now you have won.
Name Susan
Remark Peter you are an inspiration to all. Your passion and determination is going to make a difference to my children's lives and all future generations for this thank you! The price you have had to pay as far as your personal life has been concerned has not been fair but all your family must be so proud of you now. Whenever I find the going tough I will think of what you have endured and get cracken! Keep up your wonderful work and it was such a privilege getting to know about your work through the abc Australian Story
Name Ray
Remark Please read Fiona's & Mortisha's entries, They both tell it so well! This is okay for the Bylong Valley but as for Australia as whole it is just not on!
Name Ray Dowling
Remark Peter & Gerry Harvey are very lucky to have a permanent stream running through their properties. Without that water his idea to water-log the flat land is not possible. I would love to be able to have the water to pond in a creek. How can he use his idea in an undulating landscape? To all my fellow farmers, don't get to excited by this, it needs plenty of water.
Name Barb Minter
Visit Time 9/06/2005 11:16 PM
Remark what an incredible situation! Heres a persistent, stubborn man (thank goodness) with such knowledge and physical ability,and its taken so long for his message to be heard. Keep going Peter!! Its very sad that you have lost so much else along the way. Cheers to men like you!!!!!!!
Name Dennis Lugg
Remark I grew up in an area where salt wrecked buildings and farmland. Later I worked for a highly regarded aboriginal drover and stockman and as we passed through a sheep station with massive salinity problems he described the causes and solutions . Later still I did some work with CSIRO. Part of scientific method is carefull observation . Aboriginal people are excellent observers . Thanks to Peter Andrews for the intellect and perseverance to show how sophisticated "experts" got it wrong.
Name kevin & June MASON
Visit Time 9/06/2005 7:06 PM
Remark Well for my money The 50cents a year we each pay to have our ABC broadcasts is well spent when a programme such as the one on Peter Andrews is produced.
Name Ray Jamieson
Remark Congratulations to both ABC and Peter. I have just read around 60 guestbook comments and all but a couple recognise the value of what this man has done! I was also surprised to only see a couple of references to another amazing Australian who pioneered something like this in the 40's and 50's, Mr Yeoman, with "Water For Every Farm", The Keyline Plan.
The Keyline Plan is still relevant and for those people who doubt the viability of what Peter Andrews has done, look at the books on Keyline - Mr Yeoman's grandchildren are in Southport and continuing his great work.
Between them, there is probably not an arid clod outside Canberra that could not be rehabilitated!
It won't take much money to do this - certainly not as much as Canberra is wasting elsewhere, but it will take a great deal more political guts and courage than I fear we have available.
Good for you Peter, lobby like crazy and let's all lobby with you - what you have begun (again) is the salvation of this land! I can't wait til the next episode!
Name Fiona
Remark I have known Peter for many years and have seen both he and his family suffer terribly for this cause. My family and I were over joyed to see him get the recognition he deserves and therefore vindicate his work BUT it is a sad indictment that without Gerry Harvey on board he would probably still be driving the country roads in the wee hours of the morning trying in vain to engender support.
Name Carien
Remark I'm with Bronwyn and Paul......where do we learn to read the plants and the landscape....please?
Name Tracey Gregory
Remark I was mostly impressed with Peter Andrews and his determination. However as an environmental scientist who has worked in wetland revegetation and restoration I CANNOT understand or condone the planting of non-native species. Weeds are one of the major threats to our biodiversity and while the theory behind Peter Anderson's work is correct, his fatal error is in the use of non-natives. I cannot understand how academics have backed this? I have worked close and hard with landholders to access funds to improve waterways on their property and eradicating weeds, not introducing them is essential.
Name Jayne Riley
Subject Peter Andres
Remark What an amazing, courageous man. People always fear new things and that's only because fear is False Evidence Appearing Real - if they don't understand it they can't believe it. Don't give up Peter!
Well done Aunty on bringing his story to the wider audience. I only hope the momentum doesn't die and that Australia as a whole continue to look at the land in terms of regeneration rather than this seasons crops.
"Peter Andrews definately gets my vote for Australian of the Year"
Name Paul
Subject Re: Bronwyn Bain's comment
Remark Bronwyn, I couldn't agree more. Recently I stumbled upon a letter written by Chief Seathl to the President of the United States ~1855, a wonderful read which I hope you find interesting.
Name Maureen Henry
Visit Time 9/06/2005 11:52 AM
Remark I found Peters work absolutely fascinating and his struggle to prove everyone wrong heartbreaking at times. However no matter how good his work, how could he let his family lose everything for the sake of selling a few of his horses to keep the bank away?
Eccentric is one thing but just plain bloody minded - it in some way denigrades the work he has put in.
Name Bronwyn Bain
Visit Time 9/06/2005 9:51 AM
Remark It was briefly mentioned at the beginning of the story that Peter Andrews spent time in his early years with the aboriginal stockmen who told him "Whiteman doesn't know how to look after the land".
It seems to be that their knowledge has formed the backbone of his work. When will the rest of Australia, and indeed the world, start to listen to the indigenous societies who have forever had a respect for nature. When will we acknowledge their wisdom and start to listen. As David Suzuki has stated when referring to indigenous societies, "They also have their Einsteins"
Name krystal
Remark i felt so sorry for those families. for school in legal studies we did a report of inan milat. it was so horrible im glad hes behind bars
Name Lesley
Remark My partner and I found the story the most uplifting 'good news' story for a long, long time. It makes one want to leave the city and help in his long and frustrating quest.
Well done, Peter, and thanks for the years you have been 'the little bird whistling in the wind"!
Name Jean Morris
Remark What a beautiful sight to see the horses testifying to the lushness of the pasture and the sweetness of the water brought about by Peter Andrews' vision. That was all the evidence anyone needed that wetlands work. May John Anderson, Gerry Harvey and others in a position to press for change, continue to back him. Please let us see more such success stories.
Name Suzie St George
Subject The interest in Peter Andrews story
Remark I have been drawn back to read the Guestbook on the Peter Andrews program because it fascinates me to see the number and variety of responses. And these have prompted a new thought which I would like to share. As viewers have pointed out, Andrews methods are not the panacea for all our ills, nor is he the only one coming up with solutions outside the square. So what is it about this story that has excited us? Possibly the delight lies in the fact that he is being supported by some representatives of the mainstream. Academics are showing themselves willing to find out why a solution works rather than trying to impose a theory of their own. To be reminded that some politicians and businessmen are participating rather than "representing" or just "giving money" is immensely heartening. And then there is the amazing spectacle of a local reporter committing to a truth he sees rather than only acting as witness to the next popular sensation. This is a story about a team of people willing to play a visionary's game. Who knows but if this trend becomes pandemic we might have Heaven in Australia, if not on Earth! (g)
Name Laurie May
Remark I was stunned to learn that Peter's principles have taken 30 years to be grasped by conventional science. Why? Imagine the changes which could have been wrought to our struggling land in that time. Where else have his methods been put into effect?
Name Allan Healy
Remark A remarkable man with remarkable, and desperately needed, achievements. But I am still in the dark on the details of what he is doing. I hope that the second part of the story will provide those.
Name Brian Sims
Remark This story brought tears to your eyes what a great Australian real Aussie stuff.
I know what he went through with people ignoring a great Idea. Mental Health is my baby and know one is listening but thanks peter I will keep going.
Name Dona Eaton
Subject Of Droughts.......
Remark Like the previous few posts I perused,(too many to read) similar thoughts ran through my mind too, after seeing this hopeful story. Yes, what a GREAT man this Peter Andrews is.I hope credit and acknowledgement is duely given, especially because of the losses he and his family have endured.Looking forward to next weeks programme.And thanks yet again, to the ABC.
Name Robyn Vitale
Remark Gratitude to all those who had the courage and tenacity to finally pull this information/story through to those of us who are ignorant. We need to support our inovative thinkers...it sounds like we have wasted thirty years!!!!
Name Susan Birrell
Remark For many years I have had the belief that we do have the capacity to start reversing the damage we have done to the Australian ecosystems and improve our environment. I am not a scientist but I believe that there are many qualified people who could find a solution. However I was amazed that the simple approach which Peter Andrews took has demonstrated what I thought could be done - revegetation and conserving water on a local scale to create an oasis in threatened semi-arid areas. If a lot of people took this approach on their own land, it would multipy the results and we could start to reverse the degradation. This could be a project for everyone who owns or manages land. As I am approaching retiring age I am frustrated that I cannot persue this quest on a larger scale than a suburban lot, but I am encourage to see that Peter has not given up. I truly hope that his experiment will attract some serious funding and change in attitude to land management.
Name Terese
Remark After viewing Australian Story I feel totally elated that there are still people out there like Peter Andrews. What a man!! Insightful, passionate, and a true lover of the Australian land. This is the way forward for our parched country.
Remark well done on the story
i'd be keen to hear more about the use of non-native plants in the restoration of creek habitats
was this because there wasn't a native option that would perform the same ecological function?
or was native habitat regeneration not a key principle of the work itself?
Would it be work in stages whereby the non-natives were eventually replaced by their native counterpart?
I'm wondering if these introduced plants might potentially form an enormous seed source of plants which might overtake native habitats in some areas?
Name Cyril Ciesiolka
Subject Peter Andrew's holistic landscape management
Remark I look forward to the remaining program. Will it tell us in more detail how and why this system has such beneficial effects in terms of water,its quality,salinity management and agricultural production? While the property on which Peter has worked shows a good response,the geomorhhological characteristics of the Bylong Valley at the point where the property is located are ideal for obtaining such results. Will the next program address, "How to make it happen all the way along the valley and at what point will the strategy need some major manipulation?"
As mentioned by John Williams this catchment rehabilitation design will work well for some areas but it is not a single solution for all.
Name Jacquie Nasr
Subject A fanatic..a crank...a survivor of oz bashing
Remark I found this program inspiring. Common sense and understand of and working WITH the land and one man's courage to keep battering at those closed doors for 30 years.
They labelled him a crank, a danger, a renegade, a NUT! In the program they said he is a fanatic. Yes. Anyone with absolute belief and PASSION really is a fanatic. And nothing of any great worth has been achieved without it.
I salute a man of great courage and great patience and his undying belief in the land's own wisdom.
And using HORSES to gauge his successes instead of sterile scientific probes.
His results speak for themself.
Keep the passion. Keep being a fanatic. Thank you for having the courage to keep going
Name Anne S
Subject Of Drought and Flooding Rain
Remark Thank you, Peter Andrews, for having the fortitude to honour your innate sense of rightness in the face of so much opposition. Like the Kooris, you are a true custodian of the land. Please publish your methods and ideas as soon as you can. You are truly inspirational and have my vote for Australian of the Year.
Those farmers and scientists who pooh-poohed your ideas need to find a new career path for it appears they dont understand what it is they are working for.
Subject Of draughts and flooding rains
Remark As a child (only 46 years ago) and driving to Canberra from Cooma on a dirt road with my family, I used to look forlornly upon the barren land with its deep wounds gashing up the hillsides.
I feel so heartened with mankind, when I see such an inspirational man as Peter Andrews, who has been prepared to sacrifice all personal comforts and benefits to improve mans lot on this earth.
If I was Frank Packer, I would give you signed open cheques and make you my best mate.
Name Christine Donovan
Remark I could not stop watching the most important story about the Australian landscape that I have ever seen. This story should be shown to every primary and secondary school child and put on every commercial Radio and TV station. I was enthralled that such a simple procedure of maintaining our water beds and creeks and can easily be accomplished by anyone on the land or in the cities. Please make this a "Landline" special.
Name Margaret Longmuir
Subject Droughts & Flooding Rains
Remark A story which reflects my sentiments. Full credit to a determined man. Many should follow his example and maybe the tide could be turned re saving the environment and at the same time making it more productive. We cannot keep taking from the land and not give back to it. Understanding is so important. I look forward to the concluding episode.
Name Verna McCartney
Remark The best Australian Story I have ever seen it should be seen by every Australian especially those on the land. He could be the man who can change the face of our dry landscape. Go Peter
Name David
Remark Shame,shame,shame on Australia, John Anderson, the scientists and the buracrats for not supporting such a visionary as Peter Andrews. Surely enough evidence has been shown on the program to convince the Government that this man can help to solve some of our land degradation and drought problems. The Government should look at the BIG PICTURE (not John Anderson's narrow vision of the puny little creeks on his own property), appoint Peter to act as a consultant with sufficient income for the rest of his life so he doesn't have to suffer any more, and let him continue his excellent work throughout Australia to restore it's landscape to its former glory.
Name derek brannigan
Subject of droughts and flooding rains.
Remark The program is brilliant as usual. Mr Andrews must be our next Australian of the Year.
I was moved by his love for the land. Well done too Mr Ryan, the reporter from Dubbo.
Name Louise
Remark Australian Story was eagerly awaited by me this week and did not disappoint. For those who were captivated by Peter Andrew's vision, you may also be interested in the work of Bill Mollison. He articulated his vision for a more sustainable approach to agriculture in Australia from the late 1970s and was similarly ridiculed and dismissed by the bureaucrats, academics and other officious know-all know-nothing officials.
Bad news that it has taken so long for those with good sense and vision to be heard, good news that, at last, we the pupils are finding the teachers we need. Onya Peter, Onya Bill.
Name Suzanne Drake
Remark What a wonderful programme
Peter Andrews should write a book I am sure thousands would buy it extremely impressive person
Name Natasha English
Subject For Peter Andrews
Remark Peter my message is for you. I feel encouraged to continue my natural resource work while people like you exist and forge a head at great personal cost. As a landcarer in an area where the floodplains were drained long ago your 'project'marks the beginning of a new era of thinking. Thank you for helping the land on which we depend my very best wishes.
Name chee ho wong
Remark Wow! what a great story. Peter Andrew's work should not only be commended but be studied/financed. I think that what his work showed is that sometimes there are often other ways of solving our environmental problems both in the rural and urban landscapes. It is just a matter of seeing, hearing and doing things differently which is precisely what Peter has done. I have to agree with one of the guestbook entries that this story should be given more coverage. But well done ABC. We dont often hear about some of the good work that the rural community are doing to restore decades of environmental damage. Frankly I think its a cop out for urbanites to constantly criticise farmers for our environmental woes when we dont often hear enough about whats going on in the country unless your involved/or have an interest in environmental management.
Name Margaret
Remark I have to add my congratulations to the ABC for this program. It was inspirational. I hope Peter Andrews receives all the encouragement and support he deserves for believing in the land. More acknowledgement from the ABC that Indigenous Knowledge Systems are integral to land restoration and conservation would have been appropriate. Their knowledge is alive and well, and should not be given a token reference to times gone past.
Name Michelle
Remark Truly a great man and what makes him more remarkable is that he learnt from the original people of this land, the Aboriginals, who were (and still are) the most knowledgeable landcarers in Australia!
Name Kate . . .
Remark I come from a rural area, were on some of our land we have a salt problem. I thought that this story was a very interesting, because it showed our family how to deal with this problem from another point of view. Well Done Peter!! You beat the odds and peoples opinions.
Name Anthony Newett
Subject Of Droughts and Flooding..
Remark The story is so important that it should have been simulcast over each Commercial station.
Name Stephen Iacono
Remark I have been a planning engineer with Sydney Water since graduating from UTS in 1990. Over the last 3 years I have become increasingly frustrated at the way state governments squander our natural resources for the sake of re-election. For example, we knew we were in for a record drought before the 2002 State Election when our dams were at 70% capacity, however Bob Carr chose not to introduce water restrictions until after the election. But this is a side issue.
Amongst my collegues at work we often debate about how we could drought proof Australia. We just feel shackled and unable to contribute because we have the brains and the know-how to solve this crisis. Yet the people that control utilities such as Sydney Water are puppets for incumbent governments. So all we seem to do in Sydney Water is go around in circles reorganising departments and focusing on projects that aren't of present importance to make previous General Managers look bad whilst keeping the present ones at the top of the food chain.
Don't think that I am a greenie because I am not. But by the same token blind freddy can see that this drought is hurting the people on the land and the effects could take decades to recover.
Deputy Prime Minister John Anderson's introduction to Peter Andrews caught my attention immediately. For the first time I could see a ray of hope in this never ending drought.
I urge all levels of government to take note of Peter Andrews and his work. Sometimes the solutions to our most difficult problems are eloquent in their simplicity.
Peter Andrews for Australian of the Year.
Name Michael
Remark It really is very sad that a person who will not tow the accepted line is regarded with such suspicion. As a person who spent a lot of time in his youth in landscapes which were fairly close to pristine and can remember clearly drinking clean water which was purified by the natural filters that Peter is recreating, his logic seems only tooo clear to me. I hope that his next thirty years will be spent reaping the rewards he deserves.
Name Lorraine Gordon
Subject "Of drought and flooding rains 6/6/05"
Remark I sat in awe and watched this wonderful programme. How could such a simple technique been overlooked for so long and allowed our environment to deteriorate to such an extent. I would like to know if there are any "Field Days" held on this property that I could attend. I would like to know more about how he accomplished such a task.
Name Penny Knudson
Remark I first read of Peter Andrews in the SMH several years ago. I believe that his approach is the future for the Australian landscape. But my question is not what the authorities are doing about it, but rather what can I do about it.
Do we purchase land as investments which can then use this method of renewing the landscape? Do we give money to see it extended across Australia? How do I multiply the work that Peter Andrews has been doing?
Sometimes it's too easy to complain that others aren't doing the job, but I think it's time to work out what I can do to make a difference.
Subject Flood and Drought
Remark Could you please advise me as to what exactly this gentleman achieved as I am at a loss to understand exactly what he does? I believed the natural water course already existed in Bylong Valley.
Is this gentleman similar to a water deviner? Can water be found in the dry, dying outback of Australia?
Name Mortisha
Remark Basically he has built a series of dams/weirs along the old creek line. Unfortunately our land is too steep to try any of the recommendations – think we'd be prosecuted if we try to dam the semi permanent creek on our farm these days. You have to remember the Bylong valley has a fairly high water table as well – you don't have to dig very far to get water-max 3 meters in a really really dry year whereas where I live you'd be looking at 120 meters these days.
It is unfair that it is being promoted as the answer to ALL of Australia's problems –it just reinforces the ignorance of city folk that think "Well there you go - all those dopey farmers need to do is copy him and all their water problems will be solved". While it works for his place and could work on other places with relatively a flat/gentle sloping landscape -his solutions just wouldn't work in many other soils/topography.
It was nice to see how happy his horses are though.
The program on Peter Andrew's was one enormous relief. It was so good to have a Good News story on the state of this country and the creative inspiration, dedication and love this man displays. I found myself in tears of gratitude and delight. Of course Andrews is bound to be a difficult fellow and sniping about his mistakes, temperament and
lack of gratitude to past "supporters" is inevitable. The guy just doesn't find humanity easy! But if we can have a few people of influence to care for him and his ilke ,Australia can indeed become a world leader in the reclamation of this planet. Congratulations therefore to all those who have truly believed in him. I too would like information on his methods to be made avaialbe to all.
Subject Of drought and flooding rains
Remark One cannot help but admire people that make great sacrifices for something that they believe in and Peter's story is no exception. However, it is unfortunate that you have chosen to tell only one side of the story.
What Peter has done is simply to restore the natural chain-of-ponds system that would have existed pre-European settlement. This is not rocket science nor is his work unique. Effectively, he has reinstituted a freshwater lens on top of the saline groundwater body.
The "bureaucrats" that the show dismisses as luddites were in fact helping Peter until he wanted to use public (Landcare) money for research to support a patent for his methods.
It is interesting to note that those same bureaucrats refused Peter's earlier application to deepen and straighten the stream before his Paulian conversion to "natural sequence farming." Had he done so then the degradation and salinity problems would have greatly worsened.
Name Steve Curran
Remark Your story on Peter Andrews was fantastic and should be replayed again,in the face of the environmental damage that we have placed on this land,it is about time that a prophet like Peter Andrews should be recognised and followed to where ever he thinks that he may be able to repair this land that we have taken its soul and ripped it apart.I for one think its no individuals fault that this land has been scared, but it is up to us to fix it before we have no people left,like Peter Andrews.
Name Tanya Mijak
Remark It is so wonderful to see an inspired farmer restore wetlands and streams on his farm to ensure the health of his property and livestock. Hopefully his vision will inspire policy makers and landholders to explore possibilities.
Name Simon Ingram
Subject Of Droughts & Flooding Rains
Remark I couldn't help but feel inspired by the efforts of Peter Andrews. I hope that after 30 years of ridicule & personal hardship that he & his family have endured now bear fruit. Now that we have access to a proven model, commit the funds & the resources to the implementation of Peter's processes. 10-15 years is a good payback for what has taken 200 years to get to this stage. The future of farming in this country relies on the implementation of these processes to deliver a sustainable approach to water conservation. It would also be nice to see Peter lobby the big supermarket retailers for a sizeable donation back into this project. Perhaps the government could make it attractive (business tax wise) to invest in such process implementation funding.
Recognise the man for his contribution!!
Cheers on a great story & look forward to next week.
Name Dennis A Sullivan
Remark This is the best Australian Story I've ever seen. It should be mandatory viewing for all Australians, in particular our children on the land.
Name shrini
Subject Peter Andrews ' work on land reclamation
Remark I was absolutely thrilled to see the story about Peter Andrews' and his remarkable work, on the TV last night. I noted that ABC is organising a Forum on the topic.
I would like the Forum ( pollies, farmers and others would may attend ) to consider the provision of understudies to work with Peter to ensure that his ideas are continued for as long as it takes to reclaim the land. Nothing is more important in this world than to keep our land safe for our progeny. Thank you.
Remark I was absolutely thrilled to see the story about Peter Stewart and his remarkable work, on the TV last night. I noted that ABC is organising a Forum on the topic.
Name genevieve
Remark Why have we not heard of this man before? The story was probably one of the most uplifting ones I have evr heard.
To see the water .....
We should all get behind him in the same evangelical way he has tried to promote his ideas
Name Gwen
Remark I am really impressed about the interview with Peter Andrews! I think he should be commended for his common sense approach to solving environmental problems, and I'm inspired by his amazing perseverance.
Name A Tay
Remark I have been a devotee of Australian Story for some time, but this story has prompted me to actually write in - I hope Peter Andrews or his family get to read this, and understand that as a complete stranger, living in the city of Perth, I was absolutely humbled by this man's integrity, passion and endurance. Australia needs people like Peter Andrews who have the courage of their convictions. Well done Aunty for bringing this into the public domain. Well done Peter Andrews for perserving in the face of such adversity.
Name Brad Teske
Remark It's inspiring to see men like Peter Andrews using natures elements to correct the degredation we have caused to our landscape over the past 200 years. I read a book recently by P A Yeomans "Water for every Farm" which was originally written in the 1950's. He too had devised a method of drought proofing farms using diversion channels to direct rain run off to a series of holding dams. Each dam was connected by irrigation channels to flood irrigate the pastures. Native tree belts were planted to reduce evaporation from winds and the soil rejuvinated not by fertilisers, but by airation to allow in moisture/air so soil ecology could flourish at a microbiotic level. Reading the book made perfect sense, but why was this never instigated by governments to drought proof the nation half a century ago?
I only hope Peter's knowledge spreads like grounsel in the wind to renourish our land,with government backing, otherwise a continental desert is only around the corner.
Name tim aarts
Remark thankgoodness for battlers,without a doubt, one of the most important stories to tha survival of Australian life and landscape, Peter Andrews IS a Genius, if only we had listened earlier, now that its recognised lets run with it ey.I love this country with a passion, if only i had this Mans passion....T
Name Linda Holz
Remark Thanks so much for the story on Peter Andrews. I have heard bits and pieces of what he has been doing over the last couple of years so it was great to watch the program and read the interview transcripts. I hope you can do a story on John Priestly some time soon. He is another farmer in the Hunter who has developed amazing insight into how to farm in an environmentally friendly way.
Name Peter Jerome Mackenzie
Remark Its interesting that a lot of Peter's ideas seem to fit permaculture.
Name Les Boucher
Remark Congratulations on your program.The story on Peter Andrews "of Droughts and Flooding Rains" should be essential viewing not only for those on the land but, also for all school children,the future of this nation.
It is only through this kind of forward thinking,by people like Peter Andrews, that we will be able to return this great country to where it will once again be the great productive nation that it once was. For too long,we have continued to rape the land with, no thoughts of the future,or for future generations.
For 30 years now people have derided Peter and his ideas.As we have seen he has given up every thing in an effort to educate us.
We now,once again,find ourselves in the middle of a drought with forecasts showing more of the same in the near future with little rain.I pray,that those on the land and in Government will start to listen.
Peters Ideas have been proven (as your program is showing).Lets all join with Jerry Harvey and support Peter in his efforts.
Name Gordon
Remark Great story tonight om Peter Andrews. It seems such a tragedy that here is a man who is doing wonders for the land, yet no government department will spend the time to sit down and research his techniques and put them to use in other parts of our country.
In a time of such terrible environmental degradation and drought, here is a a simple technique that might help us repair our sun-parched land but also benefit us at the same time.
Name Elizabeth Smith
Subject Australian Story - Peter Andrews
Remark Thank you,once again,for a story of a unique Australian. As usual,I watched with avid interest, but when I consider the importance of this method of caring for our land, I am amazed that people in authority can ignore such important information. I hope the exposure on "Australian Story" will bear fruit by way of support and action for this vital method of survival for our land.
Name Christine Brotherson
Remark I am gratified that there are visionaries like you, mr. Andrews who are so in touch with the land and who love it enough to want to do something to save it for future generations. Your horses look magnificent.
Name Michael Lund
Remark The greatest drought affecting this country must be the shortage of courageous, practical, self-sacrificing people such as Peter Andrews – featured in this Monday's Australian story.
As a 29yr old city dweller who spent a good part of his childhood growing up in SE Queensland's Lockyer Valley, I was moved by the passion of Peter's devotion to restore the Australian landscape to its former glory. I often travel to my family home, just an hour and a half west of Brisbane past thousands of hectares of treeless, uncultivated, unworked and degraded land, rendered useless by one hounded and fifty years of counterproductive farming techniques. With this in mind, I praise the efforts of this courageous man and hope for all our sakes that Politians will have the guts to support this new approach to eco-management and corporate giants such as Gerry Harvey will have the influence to turn Peter Anderson's trial into a nation wide success.
Most of all, I hope this is an Australian Story that we all listen to, and as I consider my contemporaries, who must follow in Peter's footsteps, tunned into primetime commercial rubbish such as Big Brother and Super Nanny, I hope against all hope that I am not the only other young Australian who worries about the future of our landscape.
Name Bob Pearman
Remark I have just finished watching your story on Peter Andrews,and I feel that this man is a marvellous Australian who needs to be listened to by so many land owners and people who care for the water resource in this country. As we all now know the water is drying up in Australia, and unfortunately Peter has tried for so many years to show people how to keep the fresh water on the properties. lets hope he is now respected and listened to by the Authorities before its too late. Congratulations Peter,well done
Name Loretta Hundy
Subject OF droughts and flooding plain
Remark Like Peter Andrews there has been a similar story on Landline. I can't remember his name. His farm is in Victoria. In the 50's he reinstated the wetlands, planted corridors of trees to protect the sheep especially when lambing and also planted trees for timber that won't be harvested for generations. His son was taunted at school at the time and his father was called 'swamp man'.
Can you please follow up on how he is managing the current drought.
Subject Droughts and Flooding Plains
Remark I am very interested in what Peter has done with our natural landscape, but I want to know where I can get information so I can do the same on my farm..I live in a very dry area and have 2 dry creek beds running thru my property. I want to learn how to retain the water here and build these billabongs too.
Name Sally-Anne
Subject Of droughts and flooding rain
Remark This was an inspiring story. I can only hope that governments and key players seriously (and quickly) adopt Peter Andrews' methods before it's too late. Thank you ABC for covering this topic.
Name Bill
Remark A seminal piece. While I don't understand the broader implications nationally, this ever drying land clearly needs to pursue Peter Andrew's work with intensity, vigour and the support of the tax payer. John Anderson and Gerry Harvey are to be commended for commercially and politically supporting this line of research and it should be pursued as a national priority. Peter Andrews should be recognised as a great Australian even if it proves successful for only localised or regionalised Australia. Well done "Auntie"
Name John Campbell
Remark Have just watched Part 1. Enthralled. Am feeling somewhat 'St Paul[ea]ine'.
Name Tess de Haviland
Subject Peter Andrew's rehabilitation of our land story
Remark Thankyou to this really great man for his years, for doing what very few could have done. I would not have doubted him from the start. Go Peter, you deserve only the best now in recognition.
Name Sharyn Lidster
Remark Thank you for your inspiring story about Peter Andrews. I am looking forward to part 2 next week.
At a time when it is difficult to find anything morally defensible on television Australian Story stands head and shoulders above the rest.
Name phil vockler
Remark An amazing australian an australian of the year( every year) I saw the passionate tear in his eye you can see he loves his land and country as a farmer and conservationist i would like to shake the mans hand and say thanks for not giving up ,wake up australian poloticians and get behind the man,what an australian legend
Name Anthony Pearce
Remark Others have attempted to influence beaurocracy in the past in relation to these methods of correcting the system. All to little or no avail.
Will they listen this time?
Or will they continue down the same ol' path to ruin us all.
It is mostly the money people, the British Aristrocracy, that initiated the ruin of the Austtralian landscape for nothing more than short term profit.
Now, hopefully, real men of the likes of Gerry Harvey may be able to make a difference and return our land to fertility with clean and abundant water.
And, we can lock up large amounts of CO2 in the process.
Thankyou Peter, very much for your dedicated work.
Name TJ
Subject A similar person in the Gt Southern of WA
Remark There is also a person in the Gt Southern of WA doing similar work. 25 years ago he was rediculed, threatened and then won a Churchill Scholarship and now has people flocking to his door. He is a geneous.
Name Brian Darch
Subject Droughts & Flooding Plains
Remark What a remarkable man Peter Andrews really is. It is a crying shame that departmental boffins are not able to swallow their pride and assist this man in correcting the salinity problem across Australia instead of placing obstacles before him. Gerry Harvey I salute you for supporting Peter in his quest to improve the landscape. I feel that Peter is a man who should be recognised for an Australian of the Year Award. Well done Peter.
Name Frank Woodmore
Subject The Andrews system has wider application
Remark Congrats to the ABC for bringing us the news. Peter Harvey has it right, and good onya Gerry Harvey and Dick Pratt for supporting him. The system has much wider application than farms. There are huge areas of Australia - especially WA - which could become much more productive if the law allowed landscape enhancement and seeding of natural waterways. Last weekend I saw for myself the shocking erosion caused by heavy rains. That water, using Peter's system, could flood a vast area, and if scatter seeding was permitted, the ground would be held togegether and gradually become much more productive. Marginal rainfall areas could be transformed from semi-desert and rapidly degrading, to productive grazing land.
It's 22nd century Aussie pioneering stuff - let's give the pollies and the bureaucrats a nudge!
Name Carol Rea
Remark Thank you Peter
Why does a man & his family have to go so much to educate others.
Water is valuable and should be gently passing through our land and not exported to the ocean
Vegetation ( weeds or otherwise ) is valuable green fodder for our soil.
Government & science spend so many years debating the merits they lose the opportunity.
Since Peter has obviously done the preliminary ground work it is now time for all people interested in rehabilitating and saving our degraded land to lobby govt both commonwealth, state and local to at least support pilots in this area if not major reform.
Thank you Peter
Name f khan
Remark excellent program has opened up a whole new
world that there is still hope for our planet
Name Georgie Taylor
Remark What a brilliant man he is. It all seems so simple and yet to hard for the OZ government to realise that sometimes the simple stuff is the truth and the way to go.I am very impressed with this man and his story. Please let us all believe in him and lets do something about it!!!!Please listen to him!!!!
Name Cassie
Remark Thank you for such an educational, emotional, heart wrenching story of passion, struggle and triumph. Peter Andrews is a visionary, he has paid an enormous personal price for his beliefs. His knowledge and talents cannot be ignored. The easy road is to paint him as a radical; the difficult road is to take the time and the money, to really understand what he is doing to work with the land , not against it.
We must implement ways of nurturing the land, instead of waging war against it, by dousing weeds with life destroying chemicals, as was past and is current practise. Look at Biodynamic and Organic farming, those farmers have been ridiculed in the past and received no government support. Now demand for this produce is increasing every year.
Name Kath
Remark Congratulations Peter. I'm sorry it has taken you so long to be heard. I pray that your work will be taken up by the authorities and that there will be thousands of supporters.
I would like to see another TV programme on Peter's work down the track.
Name Farmer Jim
Remark The very best Aust Story I have EVER seen. It amazes me however that there are some scientist bureacrats that have responded in this forum that are still (amazingly) blinded by their own wrong information. Peter Andrews has proven that weeds such as willows and reeds are acting as sponges to soak and "store" the water. Whatever you say about advising farmers to kill weeds on their properties IS NOT WORKING as farmers are leaving the land. Please don't continue to be an environmental scientist and please don't continue to advise farmers to exterminate all of the weeds on their properties. PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS VERY WISE MAN and pleasde grow up and admit your errors, Fantastic opportunity for all land holders to introduce Peter's systems and forget the wrong advice from bureacrats and academics.
Thanks ABC
Name Mark G
Remark Thank you ABC for bringing Peter Andrews into our homes and water into our eyes and lives. The most touching story since the B24 Liberator aircraft rebuild.
Name Maree
Remark What a fantastic show I've only seen part two unfortunatly. Peter is an absolute Australian icon and the government need to get behind him all the way. Just as they should have 30 yrs ago. Thank you Mr Peter Andrews for your effort to restore our environment.
Name Janes Brown
Remark I feel inspired to keep going with my wacky watersaving antiques when I see a program like tonights Austory. Thank heavens for people like Peter Andrews. Lucky is the land where he walks.
For farmers where there is no water running through, it will rain at some stage; now's the time to prepare and use the model shown on the program.
I've been observing the natural contours of my small plot and gravity plays a big part in how I organise my vege garden!
Peter, if you ever need an extra pair of hands on a 'working Bee' or whatever, I'm happy to lend you mine!
Name hoops
Remark Vote1 aust storey for storey of the year. Vote 1 peter andrews for australian of the year. Although as deserving as he is for his efforts I suspect peter would rather see some PRODUCTIVE DOING around the country side than the current mutterings and paper pushing that government depts seem to be so good at. Tomorrow it should be announced that work for the dole participants are to put peters theory to work around this deeply injured country of ours. at least then ,peters, his daughter and family and friends sacrifices will leave a legacy for all our childen to admire and take pride in that its been people like peter who have formed our nation as the best country in the world to live.I was begining to think aust had lost identities like peter.Come on australia pull our fingers out and lets do it!
Name Gary Watts
Remark Well done ABC...well done Peter Andrews. I have considered commenting on many programmes viewed on TV, but have considered it a worthless exercise, as how can "one voice in wilderness" make a difference...well Peter Andrews you made me think differently. It is obvious you have been "one voice in the wilderness" for many years, but where I failed to "comment" you had the guts to continue for 30+ years and stand by your convictions, with some pretty devastating personal consequences.
An ispirational insight into one man's quest...the doubters should consult Peter before dismissing his theories....I'm sure his advise would be a small cost (if any) compared with what the rural community is currently experiencing...by cost I don't only mean $$$s...despair of lack of water has cost lives.
Perhaps a little cynical...but politicians breed cynicism...but as a parting comment, I wonder if Mr John Anderson could have as much influence as the other prominent guests who appeared in the "story"....he is in the most influential position of all.....or was it another token appearance by giving "lip service"..
Peter Andrews, may you live forever and be finally rewarded for you unfailing endeavour.
Name Debbi Woods
Remark Well done Peter. To observe the land and work with it not against it..you are a true prophett of our time. It has taken Harvey and Pratt to see the benifit (Profit perhaps) of your practices to see you are on a winner. If only more farmers would think laterally and not chemicaly then the nations farms would not be so devistated and degraded. Hopefully we will have more naturaly occuring oasis happening in our country because of your perserverance. Well done.
Name Anna Smith
Subject drought
Remark Peter, you can come and show me what you do any day. Please get something published so we can get educated, Australia needs your help, god knows how long it will be if we wait for the politicians to do anything.
Name Robert J Donnelly
Remark Congratulations Peter on your achievements and it's never too late. You make me feel very humble and I hope your Austalian Story musters the support you have failed to gain thus far. If you ever need a helping hand I would love to take a week off work and learn from you for albeit I am now a city deweller my roots are the bush and with that goes the beautiful Australian landscape we take so much for granted. I hope this week (and last) are just the start of your journey of achieveing such an unselfish goal.
Name Paul Monteith
Remark ....watched the story on ABC in Melbourne and found myself barracking for you like I was at a footy match...have just read as many posts as I could to try and get more background, and it seems that here is a real chance for the 'monied people' who care for our country to get behind this idea...as you are Mr. Harvey and others...and show the governments that ground-breaking advances can come about without their help...I will be really interested to see how this project multiplies as I believe it should...my condolences go out to you Peter for your losses...and I offer whatever support I can give...I wish you all the success you may need..regards, Paul
Name Cornelia
Remark I read the remark from Tracecy Gregory an environmental scientist....Did she not listen properly? After the weeds have done their bit and returned the land back to NICE soil again, weeds NO LONGER GROW!!!!! Weeds do not like NICE soils!!!! They love poor ravaged soils! So if EVERYONE ends up with NICE "Peter Andrews" soil there will be no more noxious weeds (O/S or local) problems!! So problem solved!!! That is the natural ryhthym of life. Has this environmental scientist ever studied genetics??? Hmmm...you better as there are a few lessons in this that you may have missed in enviornmental science!!! I am a Geneticist/Molecular Biologist who is SO happy that the anti GMO debate has gained so much ground as I decided 15 years ago to walk away from my profession as I did not think what I was doing was right anymore!!! We are given the gift of instinct (6th sense) to know what is wrong and right and ANDREWS THANKYOU FOR STICKING TO YOUR 6th SENSE - YOU ARE AN INSPIRATION TO ALL OF us other Ausies who sit in utter frustration at the huge egos, white ivory towers of beaurocracy and vested interests with HUGE O/S wallets that sway our every moment of life as we know it. Thankyou Gerry for listening...all it needs is one of those with a big wallet to sniff the value then all the other flies come buzzing! Thank goodness you are also an Australian and the intellectual property will hopefully remain here!
Peter Andrews you MUST be our next Australian of the year!!! Dr Fiona Wood gained hers for creating miracles for burn ravaged faces...you have created miracles with our ravaged land...which is truly more important?
Name Lindy
Remark Keep up your good work Peter! Your story is like a breath of fresh air. We are on a cattle property and sustainable land and vegetation management is our passion. We hope you get full recognition for what you are doing.
Remark Finally a person has gone against the norm of thinking which has been wrong for decades and has PROVEN that natural sequence farming works. He truly understands the ecosystem and how it functions. i just hope that the government and major company's do not destroy his simple and remarkable plans for an environment that can avoid drought. Everybody should be praising this man for all he has sacrificed to help the country.
Subject what can we all do?
Remark I have read an amazing amount of feedback on this story and it seems people (like myself) are pretty excited and motivated about the issue. Does anybody have any information of how one could become involved in assisting the development of Peter's cause? I would love to help in any way but don't know where to start!
Just a quick thought… I have read some negative comments about the issue of Peter's use of weeds to start the process. Rather than shoot down the concept, surely it would be more productive to perhaps expand on Peter's ideas. Why not work out what native plants will serve the same purpose?! Why not use his work (and others) like a brainstorming session? Don't shoot it down just because it sounds like a bad idea, expand on it and make it stronger. I'm not an ecologist, but I'm sure there are people out there who have the knowledge to improve what seems like a sound base.
Anyway, good to hear so many people getting excited about the health of the country.Isn't it wonderful to hear some positive news once every now and again?!
Name Maarten Stapper
Remark It is important for planned R&D in Peter's land improvement methodology to have research leadership with an holistic vision. To obtain these good outcomes towards sustainable agriculture in other locations we have to match his approach with principles of Biological Agriculture (enhance soil life), Yeomans Keyline System and Permaculture.
Our science can't cope with this as it is dominated by narrow, reductionist views of problems and only believes in things proven by science. That's why we have so many problems with the health of the complex biological systems of paddocks and our bodies.
Each of us has to learn to step out of our box, our comfort zone, and be open to change. Everything in this universe is linked with everything else.
Maarten Stapper, BAgSc, AgrEng, PhD (FAIAST)
Name michael hindmarsh
Remark This is a classical australian scientific stuffup-we must not wait for them to publish and die of thirst but act locally and implement micro leaky dams across ALL catchments.
Name Terry Quinn
Subject Peter Andrews-legend
Remark Although I live on the East Coast I have always had a keen interest in our ever growing water problems...and then I watched your story.
Good on you Peter, you have sacrifised so much along the way. This is the sort of guy we should be putting up for "Aussie of the year". not your entertainers and such.
And three cheers to Mr Harvey and friends for being just that...friends. Stick it to 'em boys.
Name Judith Clark
Remark It seems that the only ones who are going to save this country are the people with a vision and the guts and determination to carry through regardless of the attempts of the knockers and the tall poppie killers.
I can remember reports about other Australians like Peter Andrews who have soldiered on regardless of the knockers who do not like anyone who goes against the 'norm".
ie., the n.s.w.farmer who perfected the "low till" method of broad acre farming and still had a productive crop even in a drought and the other farmer who squirreled away underground stores of grain so that when the big drought did come he had plenty of feed to give to his stock when others were shooting theirs.
Australias problems will not be saved by the politicians but by the private sector who have the guts to back a great idea. congratulations to Gerry Harvey for having the fortitude to put his wealth into a project that has the potential to save a lot of Australias' farms and reversing the affects of the Government ideas in the past. I am sure that his methods can be adapted to different landscapes and now that it is so dry is the time to start "beavering" those waterways and creeks because when it does rain again, the breaks will be in place to raise the water tables. I hope we do not loose Peter Andrews to another country like the Governments past and present have lost Dr. Holt and his cancer treatment.
I would like to send a great big thank you to Peter Andrews and am glad to see that you have started a new life for your self and as I have 9 grandchildren I can see that there may be a country still left for them to follow their "horse" dreams in.
To Peter also I hope that you have got your "second wind" and will continue on with your methods. You may have to modify them to suit the critics (ie,using introduced weeds as against Australian plants that can do the same thing) but if it is the only way for them to accept the final result, then so be it eh mate.!
Keep up the good work Peter, life is for living and you have a lovely young family to keep living for. may God protect you and keep you safe and I pray that there are more Peter Andrews out there somewhere so that our children will be left a country to be proud of.
Name Premjuhi
Subject Australian Story
Remark Thank you for THE MOST IMPORTANT SUBJECT ON THIS EARTH! Peter Andrews should be given the highest commendation available in this country. I have been learning, teaching and practicing Permaculture for the past ten years so I totally undestand and praise his work. Must admit, I have cried during these two programs, both for joy and with immense empathy. He is a secular saint in my eye and one of the most intelligent human beeing I've ever heard of. Hope his work and sacrifice will not be forgottan!!!
Name Jake
Remark I to feel extremely strongly about the way our agriculture is going and more importantly the environment. The facts are there, the farm profit is there, the growing biodiversity is there. what is the problem? The facts are here now come on johny wake up mate, give it a go, invest some money and who knows it might actually work.
Name Ken
Subject Peter Andrews,Comment by Tracey Gregory
Remark Tracey forgets that the environmental weeds were all that would grow at the time until water had begun to be held back. In one instance casuarinas were Peter's plant of choice but could not be raised in the soil in its degraded condition. Get something, anything, to grow and so provide the conditions where the native plants can compete and take over.
Name Michael Collalto
Subject energy And water
Remark My own reasearch into the water issue is in many ways very similar to this mans.
In 1986 an invention that led to a further discovery has led to many of the difficulties encountered by this truly great man, in much the samer way.
Deja-vous.
My discovery was that the water used in the ordinary domestic shower is mainly wasted, not by the amount of time spent in the shower, but predominantly wasted because most of the warmth or thermal energy was not being used efficiently, and instead allowed to escape, indeed forced out of the shower into the great outdoors.
It became apparent in a blinding flash of understanding that here were billions of people all over the world using a fraction of the warmth associated with a hot shower, and using the rest of the hot water to merely heat up the vast global open spaces.
Surely ther was a better way, so using this practical observation easily verified at a mere arms length from the shower rose where the thermal potential is mainly quite lost, and the water is now tepid, it might be possible to predict that less water would be neccessary if the shower enclosure was insulated.
This led to many other incredible insights on how water is wasted in precisely this way, as well as the soap that is lost, wasted, in the vain glorious effort to stay warm in an extremely inefficient relic from a greco roman past,perhaps.
Normally we attribute the waste of resources to primitives, but in this scenario, where so much water and energy are at stake, our science based on a primitive star rated shower rose system, even the people of Nambia who use thatched grass(insulated) shower screens generally, could show our wetern science a thing or to.
Those who came up with the star rated shower rose do not have the authority to peel a bannana.
In the mean time, sorry that more information is being given.
Stories of those similar to the one on australian story tonight 23th june give me heart and prove that you need to go the whole hog and include the postage.
So here it began, losing friends etc family support, until now weeks away from a comleted hybrid shgowering prototype that is able to reduce water, CO2 emmision, soap all, by a staggering factor of over 85% nominally.
This has been my reward until now, and sharing my home with what is left, the Antichinus, Kookaburras, possums etc. Wish my family would come back, same sorts of hassles, and very sorry about it.
SAving water in the shower= insulation etc.
Name Jeff Fisher
Remark Wish you good fortune for your life.
Great that you have the belief and courage that separate you from ordanary men. Sorry about your personal losses.
Hope that like those beautiful green patches you create, that there are many in your own life.
Name Sue
Remark "Never run with one idea if a better one comes along". Peter Anderson's practical solutions appear to be a vast improvement to the many salt scalds and degraded sites on Eyre Peninsula. It would be interesting to run some trial sites with his techniques. Congratulations on your visionary focus.
Name father earth
Subject 5, 10 and 20 years into the future
Remark this man seems to bridge the gap between the
anglo-celtic-euro short term way of thinking and the long term indiginous way of looking at things,great work.
umm as a 36 year old I might have kids after all...
Name Allan
When I was at Agricultural college 40 years ago there was quite a lot of interest in a water saving process called "key lining". As I remember this involved making pondage banks along and ripping on the contour of the sides of slopes to reduce runoff and improve water retention of the soil. Do you think that this idea has any value in combination with your approach to water saving?
Congratulations on your work and all the very best in the future.
Name Dee Vaill
Remark Peter's example is not so radical, it occurs naturally in areas not touched by humans. Look what beavers do! A similar project is being researched by the University of Montana, at the Flathead Lake biological centre. It needs a wholistic approach, yes, weeds are a problem, but Peters work shows that they need not be a problem.
Name Kieran
Subject Environment
Remark 15 Years ago I was on a project studying the effects of removing the swamp lands in Northern Alberta. I was amazed how two basins, one with a large no. swamps retained and the other with all the swamp lands ploughed in, the differing effect of the land. When the no. of swamps was reduced, the water table dropped and therefore the yield of the crops per acre dropped.
I returned to Australia 14 years ago with the hope that I could have worked in the environment to find that all the forms of government only paid lip service in regards to the environment. To this day I still believe that the Governments are only paying lip service.
What Peter is doing is more revolutionary than evolutionary, as Farmers do only look at the number of acres that they can use rather than reducing the acreage used and increasing the yield by using Peter Andrew's methods. In Canada our project group had the same problem of convincing the farmers to use similar methods that Peter is employing.
I hope that all the people on the land can tae note.
Name Bruce Ward
Remark Some years ago I had the opportunity to visit Peter on Tarwyn Park. I had difficulty getting there because of extremely heavy rain and flooded roads.
What I saw happening on Tarwyn Park was nothing short of amazing. I saw water raised some 80 to 90 cm above its static level by the reed beds he had encouraged. I saw his conductivity tests clearly showing the opposite of conventional belief. That water was spreading out, SLOOOWLY across the country side. It was fascinating.
Peter is no different to many people who have preceded him. New paradigms always take both time and a human toll. It is a human thing to reject new ideas. The steps to acceptance begin with outright rejection. Then a few people say there might be something in this thing. Finally everybody moves to the new position - and declare 'we've known this all the time!'. Many people died for proposing the earth was more or less round, rather than flat, and that went on for about 300 years, as humanity moved through the steps. Peter may have 270 years left to run, based on historic precedent! Let's hope not for his sake. And for our nation.
Name Rob Tucker
Subject Peter Andrews & Our great land-Australia;
Remark Peter;thankyou for that which you have endured over these many years.Thankyou for you being prepared to look beyond the square.
We in this great land have much to answer
future generations for the way past generations have "stuffed" the land.We are
mere trustees,not owners!
And we are now in a position of requiring
miracles to have our land healed!!
Consider.....2Chronicles 7 : 14
Name Frank & Eleanor
Remark It is heartening to see that topline pollies and scientists are at last taking this vision of Peter Andrews seriously and are looking into it.
This idea needs to be evaluated objectively by ecologists and other experts in related scientific fields. It is not relevant to say the methods apply only to the sort of area where Peter has operated. Surely there would be kindred methods applicable in all the other areas of this continent where, for 200 years, we have applied the farming methods appropriate in the European areas where there is deep soil and subsoil which is quite different from the geologically ancient soils of most of Australia west of the Great Divide.
The weeds which he uses as pioneer vegetation may be exotic but that is because of what has been introduced by European farming methods for 2 centuries. They are slashed in Peter's process and incorporated into the soil and not propagated. Surely native "weeds" so zealously exterminated by well-meaning land users for the last two centuries will regenerate in good time and serve the same function.
We agree that it is important that the taxpayers' (our) money be spent on research into, and development of, this work by Peter to drought-proof Australia. It should be made a top priority. Full marks to the Deputy PM for his support. May he have the courage of Peter Andrews to continue to push this cause no matter what the personal cost.
Name Chris Gunther
Remark There are great simple living men in all areas of Australia.Congratulations for bringing their understanding of the land and our natural resources to all. Its great to see great Australians recognised for going against the grain of the masses
Name Prue Stevens
Remark Thanks - what a lot of hope you give us. To think someone out there is fighting so hard withj such passion for such a good cause is really uplifting in the extreme.
I would support a fund.
Remark It's great to see what Peter has achieved by himself on his farm against all odds. One key point both programs didn't emphasise is the recovery of the system without the use of fertilizers and chemicals. Their frequent use is the cause of degradation of our fragile soils. Their use has decimated life in the soil. Life is back in Peter's soil and pastures are no longer affected by salinity and stay green longer!
Many growers are in the process of returning to a healthy soil through biological agriculture. However, science doesn't want to accept this either. Biological farming aims to balance chemistry, physics and biology in the soil aided by improved organic carbon content, mineral balance and a diverse & abundant soil life. Thus stabilizing our fragile soils and creating a sponge that stores and makes available required plant foods and supports root growth.
A farming system designed to enhance biological activity in the soil, provide energy to the crop and build internal resistance to pests and diseases.
Healthy Soil - Healthy Food - Healthy People!
Name Louise Hastings
Remark Well done ABC. Another brilliant Australian Story. Thanks for the including the experts who add great weight to the theory.
Name Margaret Kirby
Remark It was so good to see someone with such utter belief in what they were doing was right,if only we had more people with his type of vision.It will be interesting to see how many people in a position to make a difference take up the challenge
Name popsical
Remark Would others who have responded to the Peter Andrew story be interested in forming a support network for his work. If each and every one of us wrote to various politicians etc. maybe his ideas would be put into practice across Australia. What a visionary he is, yet he has also tapped into the ancient wisdoms. best wishes to all.
Name Mike
Remark What a national hero! Peter Andrews has performed not unlike our revered ANZAC's by being prepared to sacrifice everything he has for a greater good. On this weekend of offering awards to the Nations greatest, we need to keep him in mind for the next round.
I have read of some doubt about his technique not being applicable for all areas of Australia, and they may not be. But, we need to be able to seek out more people like Peter who have the insight and knowledge to deal with these situations. I'm sure they're there, we've just got to be smart enough to listen to them.
Name GARY APPLEBY
Remark Peter
I admire your commitment and feel deeply for the price you have paid, however I am sure that your ideas will win in the end, well done!!
Name Darrin
having been brought up on a farm simialar to yours,i found it most gratifying that you have been challaging the"establihment" who have sat on their hands only because they do not understand the land from behind their desk. have you wriitten any text defining your unique rehabilitation regime. i am most interested in recreating your model. hold your head high you truly are an Australian Legend.
Name Cheryl Larcombe
Remark How can we help Peter Andrews and his supporters realise his courageous stand and the make the Government of this country wake up and take notice.
Or do we have to sell his idea overseas again !!!!
Surely it's well worth spending the Aus $'s on this countries problems first before we so generously send it elsewhere.
Make up your mind Australia, do you really think our rivers are drying up on their own accord.
It our country and our future too !!!!
HOW CAN WE SPEED UP THIS REGENERATION ?
Very concerned & grateful to Peter Andrews genius. God help him !
Name Deborah Franco/Rosina O'Casey
Subject Of Droughts and Flooding Rains: Peter Andrews
Remark Thank you Peter Andrews for your inspirational heroism and a renewal of faith.
Name Rob
Subject Re: your achievements
What a fine example you are to young Australia.Please pass on your knowledge. You will be remembered as one of the "greats" like R.M.Williams. Where is your book?.
Remark Thank you ABC and Peter Andrews. Your vision and tenacity to strive for your goal unbelieveable.
Thank for the insight into your way of managaing the environment differently. Your way is real and is gaining scientific support. Now how do we to make a real differnce on a large scale. Do we have time? never enough but Peter those that are interested would like to know how to read the landscape so that we can make a difference.
Please share the knowledge and skill if you can with those like minded people that can make a difference.
Name Stephen Roberts
Subject "Australian Story" 13 June 2005
Remark The program opened my eyes even wider to probable solutions to our rural environmental problems. My thanks and admiration go to Gerry Harvey and the consortium for supporting the heroic (I mean that!) efforts of Peter Andrews.
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Name D Drain
Remark Peter I wonder if you know of the Upper South East Dryland Salinity and Flood Mangement Scheme in South Australia. Over 410 kms of drains are currently being dug over an area which was once an giant interconnected wetland system (of which only 3%ish remains but which has (no suprise to you) turned to salt. People within the SA branch of the CSIRO and the State and Federal Gov. all persist however that drainage is vital. Details http://www.dwlbc.sa.gov.au/salinity/pro ... about.html
Remark I can't help thinking of Fred Hollows when I think of Peter Andrews. Fred Hollows just ignored the red tape and just went out and did what he had to do.
Pack up some caravans, and just go to rural areas suitable for implementing Peter's ideas - please, without further ado.
We can't wait for politicians - who most often only care about the short term 4 years they are in office.
After this fantastic "Australian Story" Every farmer on this land must be now looking to see if they can apply these ideas to their own situation.
Congratulations Peter, rural reporter, family, friends and financial supporters - I feel very grateful to you all for your dogged persistence.
I'd like to see farmers contributing to your website to show photos of the progress on their farms, with observations and comments on further discoveries.
I also have Yeoman's book on Keyline techniques of farming, which might be of assistance to those who cannot use all of Peter's ideas because they have hilly country without a stream.
Of course, there is also Rudolf Steiners techniques in Bio Dynamic Farming, which improves the soil condition and fertility of the soil.
All of these techniques are valuable.
Thank you so much again Peter on your terrific success! I'm feeling more hopeful about our future in this dry abused country.
Name D Haskett
Remark The story of Peter Andrew's battle for the environment, at enormous cost to himself and his family is one which I won't forget. I hope it is not too late to learn from this dedicated Australian.
Name Robyn
Remark I cried! Aah, the deep joy of "meeting" a man who can show us how to ensure the well being of our wonderful land. We MUST NOT let this man go unheeded - the health of our land is our health. Water will be more precious and expensive than gold in time to come. After each (historically) cyclic drought passes in Australia, the lack of water issue is put on the backburner. Stupidly.
I missed the first part of Peter's story but the second part was as inspirational and hopeful as anything I have ever seen. Thank goodness for his wonderful supporters, especially those who believe in him and support him financially as well. Don't bury this man - he's a rare jewel. His support and "cause" is going to be my "charity" and I will be spreading the word. I will be getting a copy of this story and showing it to my children - so they are aware of what is possible. And yes, it should be shown in schools. To you Peter, and your extended family - hang in there - it's worth it!!
Name gavin davis
Remark I watched with interest the 2 editions of Australian story concerning peter Andrews.
2 things really stand out for me.
The first is that the involvement of govt bureaucrats in land management seems to be a negative, yet many people still want to go down this road.
I ask, how can people that have never had any experience or affinity with the land know better than the people that are there managing it every day.
The second is, land management cost money, and with the very poor terms or trade the rural sector has, as a result of govt regulations and a compound tax system that ends up at the "land managers" bottom line as increased costs.
I now ask how can effective land management can be part of the industry, when our income is world based (we can feed the worlds factory workers), yet have production costs that are so far from being world competitive.
Something has to give, and unfortunately it is environmental investment.
Result is that govt regulates, causing more of the above.
Peter's fight demonstrates the negative from urban Australia as I see it.
Thanks for the few that have stuck by him.
Maybe if the national leader had put the same effort into effective support for peter, things may have been different now.
Name Jackie Das Gupta
Remark This is an amazing man and just following the Queen's birthday honours list I can only suggest that Peter be considered a highly valuable Australian who should be supported, funded and encouraged to spread his knowledge and skill as far as possible around our country as soon as possible.
Name Oscar Wells
Subject Drainage and Dryland Salinity
Remark Peter I wonder what your assesment would be of a Federal and State Gov. funded program in the South East of South Australia in which nearly 410 kms of drains are currently being dug to "control and manage surface water flows and remove saline groundwater where possible". Details can be found here
http://www.dwlbc.sa.gov.au/salinity/pro ... about.html
Name Charmian Harrington
Remark First,to say thankyou to you Peter would not be enough. You have done and are still trying to acheive something to not only benefit yourself but for the greater good of all!! There are so few who are willing to do that. I am a mother of four young children with no greater formal education than middle high school, and I can't help but ask what sort of education must you need to see the 2 properties ,in the working order that you have created with all those around them in drought is proof enough that it works!!! My apologies to you for the lack of willingness on the part of our red tape paper shufflers that have all the formal education needed to see nothing, thankyou for your time and patience, please keep on trying our children need you too!!
Name vic fielden
Remark congratulations to peter and the abc,firstly to peter,your vision has not faultered through adversity,your minds eye is not clouded by today but what you see in tomorrow.secondly to the abc,i hope you carry this story through and invest in a programe to research a site using his theories and using his talent to educated the a group of young australians.(start at the bottom not the top)
Name Robert
Remark I was enthralled with the Peter Andrews story.
It's about time the government listened and acted on his Natural Sequence Farming. For years the government have been doing ridiculous things in regards to our water supply.
For example, in my area of NSW (The Illawarra District) Everybody in the suburbs are buying water tanks because our dams are so low. And it is mandatory for any new house and subdivision that is built to have a water tank installed. But many years ago, the council made it illegal to have a water tank and were fining people if they had one.
It's this simple, for years the governments ways of "fixing" the water problem have not worked. Peter Andrews solution does work!!
And to those people who still don't think it could work in their area, give it a try, you've got absolutely nothing to lose.
Name Sandy
Remark Congratulations Peter Andrews! Not too many have the courage of their convictions these days. How easy it is to merely criticise and condemn and not actually DO anything.
Thinking outside the square for creative solutions is true of many people I know (particularly farmers). I have long accepted that conventional scientific thinking is not always right.....once, conventional thinking said that the world was flat........!
Name Catherine Kristensen
Remark The story of Peter Andrews is by far the best story I have ever seen on Australian story. I wish Peter all the very best.I admire Peter's perserverance throughout his painful journey. I hope that we are mature enough as a country to heed his remarkably valuable ideas.
Name Barrie Ridgway
Remark Hi Peter
It is wonderful what you are doing.
here is the text of a message I have just sent to the ABC:-
Re Australian Story, Monday, 13 June 2005.
This is a most interesting story, especially to me. But it is not new! In 1959, in British Columbia, Erik Collier published his story "Three Against the Wilderness" (copies of which may be obtained through abebooks.com). This is a book which I first read in the early '60s and have recently acquired a second hand copy from abebooks, and recently re-read it.
Collier as a young man, married a part Indian woman and they went to live in the bush, in the remote Chilcotin area of British Columbia, where they built a cabin and were going to exist by trapping. However, the land was a disaster. All the beavers had been trapped out, and so the hundreds of beaver dams in the area had been eroded away. Now the land was parched, lifeless. And below, on the main river into which the Chilcotin creeks fed, farmers were facing increasing ruinous floods interspersed with droughts and erosion. slowly their farms were dying. Collier's wife's Indian grandmother told him that it was all because the beavers had gone and that their dams had gone. She told him he must bring back the beavers.
collier, working with only himself, a horse and an axe and shovel and other hand tools, rebuilt an old beaver dam and then another. Farmers downstream on the main river told him to go ahead as he could not make things worse than they were. He was passionate about what he was doing. Eventually he persuaded the BC Game Department to let him have a few beavers which were released into one of his dams. Everyone held their breaths. The beavers stayed, they bred, they rebuilt many dams and made new ones. Once again this land acted as a sponge. Life returned to the area, many animals moved back, flooding lower down where the farmers were was controlled, water flow was controlled. Once again the land was productive.
Andrews is doing exactly what Collier did, and I urge you to read Colliers book which details all that he did.
In view of the sceptism towards Andrews, i would ask that you pass this email on to Andrews and to the scientists and the journalists and others who are helping him. It may help him to know that his ideas have already been tried and proven in Canada!
perhaps you might even read "Three Against the Wilderness" and do a follow up on australian story!
Barrie R. D. Ridgway
Name Brian Hay
Remark Best Australian Story ever! Amazing determination in the face of adversity and decades of opposition. A true prophet! Peter's story should be compulsory viewing in schools, universities and our halls of power. It's great he's beginning to receive the recognition for his work that he deserves. Hopefully more people (and the government) will take notice ... and take action.
Name cathy
Subject aboriginal involvement
I am inspired by your understanding of the land and how you have applied this knowledge. I first heard your story on Margaret Throsby several years ago when I was working with aboriginal people in alice springs. At the time they also inspired me in their understanding of the land and how they can read the landscape. Is their any opportunity to involve aboriginal people to help with this venture as I know their must be some people out their that still have the knowledge of their land, the water and the floodplains.
Name Frank
Remark What a remarkable man. Peter has given his life and everything that he cherishes, in the hope that we will eventually understand and agree that 'the world is not flat'. After eight years of below average rainfall and drought throughout most of Australia, now is the right time to stop, listen, and open our scientific minds to Peters ideas and to applaud his visible success in regenerating the land. We have no time to waste. Gerry Harvey and Dick Pratt should be commended for providing financial support. It is now time for our government to take notice and act, before it is too late for all of our farmers.
Name Nathalie
Remark It is always amasing to see the blindness with which we treat people that should receive all the encouragement possible when their contribution is objectively considered. But I guess because Mr Andrew doesn't have diplomas that reassure some, the monetary wealth that is the only way to speak to others, or the slick appearance of conmen that have recked national icons by their dishonesty, people in power don't find him that attractive.
It is a relief to see that some scientists are humble enough to recognise where they are wrong and some others have faith in Mr Andrew's in-depth knowledge even if it doesn't fit current conventions. Sometimes, revolutions come from people who have the courage to stand up for what they intimately know is right.
We need more people like you Mr Andrew.
Name Evan
Remark I begin by congratulating the ABC on the presentation of this program ... In my opinion, it is, of itself, full justification for the existence of an independent, publicly-owned broadcasting system ...
Secondly, I congratulate Peter Anderson without reservation ... and all those who, albeit belatedly, have championed his cause ...
Finally, a challenge : Next June, please have another program telling Australia of the progress made in this critically important endeavour ...
Name Matthew JM Mooney
Remark What a remarkable story. I saw the first episode on Saturday afternoon and couldn't bare to miss the conclusion on Monday evening. I would like to take my hat off to this man and thank him for showing us that it is possible to work with the environment in a way that offers such great results to farmers in drought stricken areas across the country.
I would like to wish Mr Andrews every amount of success in the future and one can only hope that it isn't too long before the government start paying greater attention to this man and his ingenious solutions.
Name Herlinde
Remark Fighting the 'status quo' when you know it is wrong and standing up for your convictions takes a lot of courage and obviously a lot of personal pain. I really admire Peter Andrews and wish more people would follow his example. The world would be a better place and the future less frightening.
Name Trevor Sholson
Remark I really respect the passion Peter has for the environment, I hope he will be vindicated.Taking risks and experimenting is what true science is about, our models at present are locked into "accepted" truths and narrow funding guidelines. I hope Peter's work will be a beach head for new paradigms. His work may have limited scope and some aspects such as using weeds are doubtful but slowing water and increasing biodiversity seem simple even obvious winners. I would like to see how that approach might work on our property in the rangelands of WA.
Name Alda
Remark Yet another inspirational Australian Story! Doesn't this just show you how extra-ordinary so-called 'ordinary people' (as our polititians call other Australians) really are. Congratulations Peter! You should be appointed Environmental Consultant to Australia on a salary package at least equivalent to the incoming Telstra CEO, since your contribution to the welfare of this country will be far more significant than his to Telstra. And perhaps the appointment could be made retrospective to compensate you for a little of what it has cost you.
In my opinion Peter has found the key not only to restoring our landscapes, but to restoring the natural water cycle over those landscapes. The solar energy expended in driving the water cycle (all over the globe) will contibute to reducing global warming and thus slow down the melting of the ice caps. Water increasingly retained within the landscape and not lost out to sea, will also cause a reduction in rising sea levels.
In conclusion, Peter Andrews is a national treasure! He should get the next "Australian of the Year" award and the prize money that goes with it.
Name Lorraine Hoddinott
Remark Peter's story, dogged determination and sacrifice for what he believed was right is amazing and to see the land rejuvenated is testimony to a true Aussie battler. Keep up the good work. This program should be shown to secondary students to inspire them to experiment and restore the land to its former glory. Please let me know where I could send a donation to help this man pursue his dream. Great work Peter!
Name Mike Oswald
Subject "Of Drought and Flooding Rains"
Remark AUSTRALIAN STORY
Great story - when do you cover how WE as individual Australians make a contribution to water hydrology?
This is too big for the ABC NOT to cover the next steps.
Congratulations to Peter Andrews, who seems to have more to offer in drought proofing Australia - than many/most of our precious bureaucrats. Congratulations to those men and women of vision, such as Gerry and Richard who need to keep tugging on the ears of capable politicians and bureaucrats.
Very, very well done Peter and to the ABC - let's see more about this.
Mike Oswald
Name Michael Andrews (not ralated)
Remark Peter, I applaud you !!
It is so refreshing in this mad world to see someone with such vision and determination
puting it to good use.
Whatever you do, dont give up your passion.
Your efforts will be rewarded. (you have my vote as Australian of the year)
With much admiration and goodwill.....
Name neil
Remark It is of no surprise to me the ideas and concepts of Peter actually work.
Much of what he says was first put forward in the early part of the 20th century by Victor Schauberger for Austria 1885-1958. He was known as the 'water wizard' He also suffered similarily at the hands of established thinking.
I admire Peters courage and persistance. I hope he lives long enough to see his ideas adopted by the various state and federal authorities.
Neil Mackay
Name Phil
Subject "Land clearing" was the religion
Remark Australian Story on Peter Andrew
In Tasmania, my great grandfather used to dig draining ditches on the river flats, dig down until he was out of sight. He also cut down trees by the hundreds and my father said if chainsaws had been around in his day, there wouldn't be a tree left standing in Tassie. Pasture was everything. "Land clearing" was the religion. Bush and stones were the enemy. Even when I was growing up, Dad said never waste a walk, pick up an armful of rocks and chuck them on a pile. Clear that grass for cows and sheep. Grub out surviving sags, a kind of thick tussocky reed. Blackberries and ferns took their place and had to be combatted in their turn along with rabbits. I don't know why my great-grandfather also planted willows along the creeks, causing blockages which I was told were a curse, for my Dad and his father to complain about all their lives. But we have never lacked water on that property and also had fish and platypuses. The sight of Peter Andrew swinging the scythe reminded me of my farming Dad who was a great tree lover, damned near a greenie.
Thank God for the ABC – none of the commercials would do this story or sponsor the Deakin lectures which have presented some wonderful addresses on environmental conservation and innovation.
Name Bernie
Remark Very interesting show ,I have started to fence of waterways on our farm,so I will be keen to try some of his ideas where I can.
Thanks Australian Story and Peter Andrews.
Name DeeBee
Remark Encouraging to see Gerry Harvey backing this man with both moral and financial support.
What concerns me is that the government through the very eyes of the Deputy Prime Minister (John Anderson has viewed the work with media coverage on several occasions) appears to have done little or nothing to assist. With the millions of dollars that have been spent through NHT grants over the past decade for a whole range of good and indifferent landcare research and on ground projects you would have thought some avenue could have been found to directly assist Peter Andrews work. It is not as though the guy has failed to make representation for assistance in the past.
Well done ABC and Australian Story. I hope we can see a model site established here in WA soon.
Name Geoff Gray,Hovea.WA
Remark The passion that drives Peter has shown the good and bad in its outcomes.We can sympathise on how it destroyed his family life only to see the groundswell of support from the ordinary person and those intellectuals who have the ability to see and grace to to give support. lets hope his new life is happy,able to reduce the pain of the past and allow his vision to come to pass and be used to help Australia over its problems in how best to use the land.
Many thanks to his mates for their support and the ABC for bringing his story. let us hope that the bureaucrats give him a fair go in the future. BE assured Peter the ordinary bloke is right behind you and that fund really sounds like a great idea.
Name kevin jackson
Subject reversing enviromental problems globally
Remark god bless peter andrews,as your struggle has slowly grown its fruit,for blind seintific educated fools to see,the unnatural lifeless material trades,of global war,against all mother natures natural living growing supply,where is the glogal national intrest in that?Where is the economic future in all the modern material trades of warfare,there is none,only the inheritance of lifelessness most all buisness is based on the trades of unnatural habits,unnatural existances,becouse all the natural life of nature is destroyed,for unnatural man to only exsist,in a unnatural lifeless place,void of all living natural life and creatures,ect. peter andrews you are not alone, there are many who see the suicidal genocidal ways of the modern,material man of the scientific trades,there is no friends in buisness,and all our sociaty is based on the global buisness, trades of unnatural warfare,all support for the living natural future,god bless peter.
Name Valerie
Remark Like so many others I rejoice that Peter Andrews has, not some psychic ability to divine water, but a humble awe for the natural workings of the land and water which he has observed around him. Few ever spend the time to 'see' or respond to what is clearly there and of course, fewer still will follow through as Peter Andrews has.
Reading the Guestbook entries I was struck by the usual jealous denigrations spouted by various environment scientists and landcare professionals who are as hide bound as the 'do nothing' landholders they try to convert. Why is it that those in power and with vested interests in their own pet theories have such closed minds? And how quick they are to dismiss without even knowing the subtleties of the work. Rejoice please! I am excited and hopeful that Peter's work will spread—and soon! Sadly some bureaucrats and environmentalists are perhaps likely to be the stumbling blocks.
Several writers seem to have come to the conclusion that a running stream is necessary. Well I may be wrong but it seems to me that Peter's methods could be applied to contours in many areas. I have seen this naturally occurring in sandy hill slopes where often springs well up through otherwise dry bushland and form green patches in areas held by logs etc. What if the scrub, weeds etc were mulched down in these areas—I think we would see the soil improvement Peter claims.
In another remarkable practical experiment in dry, flat north west plains with minimal rainfall, huge areas of dry pan salty clay, saltbush (sheep fodder) has been regenerated by low contour ponding. No streams there!
Thanks to Peter and all who have had the insight to make his work known. I would like to put it into practice.
Subject in reply to Tracey Gregory on Peter Andrews
Remark I saw the sparkly silver weed seeds as well!!!
You & I could be the "Weed Seed Stoppers". Catch them, dispose of them & then volunteer to put in the 'Aftercrop'. A bio-diversity 'mix' (in the required stages) in accordance to the indigenous needs of the location.
I understand the 'weeds bit' was was only temporary.
For the purpose of needing something that grows quickly in order to secure a holding for topsoil, the weeds are useful.
SOME water and Lots of Frogs is better than NO water at all!
Remark What an amazing man, and an amazing man.
His dream has cost him dearly but, for our country, his dream is our saviour. I just hope that the authorities take note
Name Stephanie Gwilt
Remark Well done ABC for your fantastic story! Why do so many of our genius's have to sacrifice so much before anybody gives them credibility?? As far as I am concerned, Peter Andrews is right up there with the Anzacs in giving ordinary people like me and my children an optimistic future for our country and we need to be supporting them. Brickbats to those 'friends' who deserted this dedicated, driven man, and bouquets to his ex-wife and son Stuart for standing by him and his beliefs. Our country is a better place because of people such as Peter Andrew and the funding needs to be forthcoming for his research. As for those who would question the validity of his work applied in Western Australia, let's work towards it, not discount it, as others have done over the last 30 years. How will we know if we don't give it a go?
Name Tony
Remark Peter Andrews storey is most compelling, he has shown true Australian spirit and the love of his country,willing to give up everything for what he believers in.
He has achieved this inspite of all those know-it-all sceptics and disbelievers at a cost most people would not endure.
Peter has proved his system works in its simplicity. As a city person I take my hat to you Peter a true AUSSIE in every sense and I would like to ask those who choose to criticise his system can they produce an alternative that works.
Name Arianne Peers
Subject Some have sustainable solutions, most won't listen
Remark Good work Peter Andrews. Like you, there are people who have offered solutions, but others won't listen, even when they can see the results. People follow what is popular, so principles like Permaculture and other means of living and farming sustainably need to be made mainstream so many will know about them. I'm glad Gardening Australia has begun to introduce these methods to us all and programs like Landline and Australian Story also ocassionally let us all know of these people.
Name george shedrawi
Subject thats great peter well done mate
Remark Gday peter as a student in western austalia where dryland salinity is a problem I am extremely pleased to see you have pioneered this method which seems in your case and probably most cases works. With your efforts and countless hours of labour it seems to have prevailed, however your veiws on using weeds may seem great and an excellent solution but now that you are recieving backing and people are listening, can you talk to botanists and plant biologists about using native plants that may have the same physiology as those weeds you are using or do they not exist? Your methods of cutting down weeds before they can proliferate if thats what you do is great but can all farmers be that labour intensive? Your story tonight was informative but it raises so many questions, will you, whilst trying to save generations of damage get someone to write a biography on your story in a technical sense so your knowledge will not be lost...Maybe that journalist mate of yours. Cheers peter good on ya!
Name Theo
Remark Congratulations australian Story
This is very impressive. It is good Peter has some good and wealthy friends. Hopefully they may be able to influence the bureaucracy which does not know what to do and succeeds in wasting resources and stifling progress. I see this in general aviation and also in care of our river system in WA. He should not blame himself for his daughter's death.
Name Convert
Remark I have visited several model farms in drought prone areas of Southern Africa, many of them without streams, rivers or permanent water sources. Techniques similar to those used by Peter are used to 'harvest' water and 'grow' soil and manage soil salinity, and the results are astounding.
Name Grny
Remark ABC, please replay BOTH parts of this program! I missed the first but loved the second!
Name Wilfried
Remark I congratulate the Abc to find Peter Andrews and this amazing story. We use 'living water'on our property in WA. H20 is only the chemical formula, but there is a lot more to water and nature than just this chemical formula!
Name bobbie1
Remark It seems to me that Peter is truly deserving of recognition and support at the highest level. Our politicians, as ever, seem to be completely disconnected from the real Australians they are elected to serve. How is is that we can blithely give away hundreds of millions of dollars to line the pockets of spurious "aid" agencies and Indonesian politicians, and choose to award our greatest "honour" to a smug church bureaucrat, and at the same time we can ignore the real contribution that Peter has made and continues to make to our country's future?
Name Moira M.
Subject Thank you for the story on Peter Andrews
Remark The world needs more people like Peter Andrews. I'm glad he has the support of people like Mr. Harvey who can help make his ideas a reality for more of Australia, before our country is irreparably damaged.Will his ideas work in WA where so much land is degraded by salinity? Can we have some work done here to find out?
Remark OK, now we've seen the laymans look at it. now, for those of us who have an inkling of what it's all about, lets see something of the technical side of it. I came away from the second program still wondering what Peter was actually doing and what relevance it might have to the rest of us. An inspiration, to be sure, but where too next?
Name kimble alexander
Remark What a fantastic story, I do hope Peter gets the recogintion he deserves. Would love to know if he is coming over to the West to hold field days as we are farmers and have similar problems.
Name Rod Christian
Remark I was moved to tears after watching tonight's programme. It is such a crying shame that people with vision and integrity are not given the opportunity to develop ideas in this country. I should know, It has taken 16 years for people to finally recognise a project I have been passionate about and always believed in. It is fantastic to think that men like Harvey and Pratt are helping to develop Peter's vision and foresight to improve our natural environment.
Name Karen Martin
Remark After seeing Pt 2 only, and the fact I don't know too much about living on the land as such..... I would have thought that Peter Andrews ideas and practices were just common-sense. Scientists, polititions, land conservationists etc, may have the brains but everyone knows they never had the common-sense to go with it. For such a simple idea and simple practices to be overlooked by scientists, and other land conservationists just proves it.
Muff Clothing
Contact Muff Clothing
Heard about Peter Andrews for the first time
Post by Muff Clothing » Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:51 pm
Peter Andrews' Australian Story was very moving.
Congratulations Peter on working out how to help preserve Australia's resources.
Hope you get everything back you've put in, tenfold, asap, mate.
(stay strong)
Michelle and Al
Location: Thirlmere
Great show
Post by Shirley Henderson » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:37 pm
I thoroughly enjoyed the show. It was not long enough. Looking forward to the second episode. I think Peter needs to be seen over and over and over, like advertising. His methods do not always sink in immediately, advertising, promotion and being seen and heard as much as possible. I taped the show, watched it twice myself and will be showing it around. We can all do that but it would be wonderful if someone could do a show about Peter maybe on SBS or TVS for weeks on end to get others interested in following the work he does and the work of others following his methods.
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