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HANSARD 1803–2005 → 1900s → 1906 → August 1906 → 1 August 1906 → Commons Sitting → COLONIAL MARRIAGES BILL [LORDS].
STREET BUTTING BILL [LORDS].
HC Deb 01 August 1906 vol 162 cc1144-70 1144
§ Considered in Committee.
§ (In the Committee.)
§ Clause 1:—
§ MR. GLADSTONE
moved an Amendment providing that any person frequenting "or loitering in streets or public 1145 places" for the purpose of betting shall be liable to the specified penalties.
§ *MR. CLAUDE HAY
wished to know whether they could have some clear definition of the word "loiter," and he reminded the Secretary of State that he had already this year appointed a Royal Commission to ascertain the meaning of the word "loitering" as understood and used by the police in London.
§ *MR. GLADSTONE
It is a well-known word in the English language.
§ LORD BALCARRES
asked if a telegraph office was a public place. Would this Act prevent a man standing about a telegraph office and making bets by telegram?
said he had a great deal of sympathy with the noble Earl's object and he believed that as a matter of law a Post Office was a public place. The difficulty of deciding whether a man who was sent to bet by telegram really came within the scope of the Act was so great that it was impossible to draft an Amendment to cover it.
§ SIR E. CARSON
said he was sorry that the Home Secretary had come to that conclusion. The Government had not given much time for Members to put down Amendments, because it was past 2 o'clock, after midnight, when the Bill was passed. The right hon. Gentleman last night made a very able and powerful and useful speech upon this question of betting in streets and public places, but would the public believe he was in earnest if a man was permitted to be arrested outside a telegraph office for betting whilst the Government were receiving hundreds of thousands of pounds inside the telegraph office for the purpose of transmitting bets to bookmakers? He did not see what the practical difficulties were. If the right hon. Gentleman issued an instruction that no telegraph clerks should receive a bet, that might meet the case. If it was enacted that it was punishable by fine to send a bet by telegraph, there would not be much difficulty in the matter. The great difficulty was that the Government, while they pretended to wish to do 1146 something to put down an admitted evil of a very great character, desired themselves to countenance this system of betting for the sake of revenue. It was purely and solely a question of revenue which prevented the Government dealing with it. If in this Act they had a section really preventing and legislating against the transmission of bets by telegraph, it would smash up the whole bookmaking system throughout this country. There was nothing more pitiable than to go into a country post office, close to some small local races, and see the men there who were hardly able to buy their own dinners waiting to telegraph 5s. or 2s. 6d. to have a bet on some of those races. So long as that practice existed the public would consider the Government particeps criminis in this matter; if the right hon. Gentleman had given them a little more time to put down Amendments to make it perfectly clear that the Government were determined to alleviate the evils, they would have done much to put an end to this disastrous system which went on throughout the whole country.
reminded the right hon. Gentleman that there was still a Report stage upon which he could exercise his legal ingenuity to draft an Amendment which it would be possible to accept. If he would do that the Government would be extremely glad to consider it. He did not know whether this Amendment would cover that. He did not know whether a telegraph office was a public place. He was not a lawyer, but he should have thought it was outside the scope of this Bill, which was one for "the suppression of betting in streets and other public places." He would remind the hon. and learned Gentleman, who was a distinguished Member of the late Government, that this Bill was sent down from the Lords in the past two sessions, and that it never advanced to the present stage in this House [An HON. MEMBER: It was blocked.]. He did not know who blocked it, but what the Government were doing now the late Government could easily have done. It was a Bill which at any rate provided a partial solution. He did not claim anything more for it. If they could pass this Bill, however, he would suggest to the 1147 Postmaster-General and his colleagues that perhaps a Bill might be brought in next year aimed at betting by telegraph.
§ MR. PAUL (Northampton)
said this was not a question of legal ingenuity. It was a very serious matter. Betting by telegraph was more injurious than betting at street corners. He did not understand why the right hon. Gentleman could not accept the Amendment. If a telegraph office was not a public place it was not a private place. The Government did not allow messages of an improper or immoral character to be sent by telegraph, and he wished they did not allow messages to be sent in regard to betting transactions. He hoped words would be introduced at this stage, or on the Report stage, to stop this system of betting, which caused untold misery to the public.
said that if betting by telegraph were not within the scope of the Bill the Bill was not worth anything. He did not think the right hon. Gentleman would find the least difficulty in legislating to prevent the transmission of betting messages by telegraph. He admitted that the law might sometimes be evaded, but let them put on the face of the Bill that this House disapproved of the system.
§ MR. CHARLES CRAIG (Antrim, S.)
said it seemed to him that this Bill was framed for a certain specific object, and that was to put a stop to the system of street betting which enabled the poorer classes to put small bets on horse races. What was now proposed was that they should graft an entirely different principle on the Bill at the last moment. Were they to understand, for instance, that if Lord Rosebery, who was an excellent type of sportsman, went to a post office and put on a bet he was to be liable to a fine? [An HON. MEMBER: Why not? He would tell the hon. Member. He was endeavouring to explain that this Bill was not framed to deal with a case of that kind. The Bill was intended to deal with the case of the poor man. [An HON. MEMBER: Why?] He thought that the acceptance of the Amendment would do what the framers of 1148 the Bill did not really intend, and he hoped that the Home Secretary would make the point perfectly clear.
said that he quite agreed with the hon. Member that there were great difficulties which had not been not by the Bill. Besides betting by telegraph, there was the difficult case of betting by telephone.
said that most people now bet by telephone because there was no record of it.
said that they had also to consider the legitimate secrecy of the telegraph. The Government would put this Bill when passed on trial, and would consider whether afterwards any Amendment could be made upon it.
§ MR. BOTTOMLEY (Hackney, S.)
said that this was a very important question. A post office had been held by competent Courts of Law to be a public place. Was it to be distinctly understood that the Government in passing this measure would render liable to arrest Lord Rosebery or the Duke of Devonshire who entered a post office in order to put a bet by telegraph on a horse they fancied, or even to make a bet on the life of the present Government?
§ Amendment agreed to:
§ Amendment proposed— In page 1, line 7, to leave out the words ' or wagering' "—(Mr. Gladstone.)
§ MR. CLAUDE HAY
asked why these words "or wagering" should be left out? Was it designed to cover any transaction now conducted in the streets which was connected with matters of business in different parts in the United Kingdom? He understood that the Lord Chancellor and Lord Davey had thought it necessary to put these two words into the Bill.
said he was very sorry that the right hon. Gentleman proposed to leave these words out of the Bill.
said he would ask leave to withdraw the Amendment.
§ Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
§ MR. BOTTOMLEY
said that the first amendment standing in his name was to reduce the fine from £10 to £5, which he submitted was quite sufficient.
§ Amendment proposed— In page 1, line 11, to leave out the word 'ten' and insert the word 'five.' "—(Mr. Bottomley.)
§ Question, "That the word ' ten ' stand part of the Clause," put, and agreed to.
said that after the decision just arrived at he would not proceed with his other Amendments.
§ MR. LUPTON
moved an Amendment with a view to omitting the provision that in the case of a third or subsequent offence or in the case of a person committing the offence of having a betting transaction with a person under the age of sixteen years he should be liable to imprisonment, with or without hard labour, for six months, without the option of a fine. He thought the punishment was monstrous.
§ Amendment proposed— In page 1, line 20, to leave out from the word ' pounds ' to the word ' tine ' in line 22. — (Mr. Lupton.)
§ Question proposed, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the clause."
§ MR. CHARLES CRAIG
supported the Amendment, and said the penalty was an extremely heavy one for a person who perhaps only bet half-a-crown three times. Such a provision was unworthy of any assembly which called itself an assembly of reasonable men.
MR. J. W. WILSON (Worcestershire, N.)
, thought this was a very serious question, and pointed out that bookmakers employed men and paid them well to bet with youths, women, and children. If the penalty was made severe they would not be able to get men to do this dirty work.
said his hon. friend who moved the Amendment seemed to have overlooked the fact that the im- 1150 prisonment only followed upon a third offence having been committed. Therefore a person convicted must have determined to defy the law. The penalty for a person willing to enter into such transactions with a boy of sixteen was not one whit too large.
said the Government could not accept the Amendment, because if they did so the Bill would become useless.
§ Amendment negatived.
moved the omission of Sub-section 2, which provided that any constable might take into custody without warrant any person found committing an offence under the Act, and might seize and detain any article liable to be forfeited under the Act. He submitted that in view of the fact that the telegraph and telephone offices might be places within the meaning of the Act, to give a policeman liberty to loiter round those places in the hope of making an arrest was not desirable. He asked the Government if they would not accept his Amendment or find words to limit the power of arrest to cases where there was a complaint. He moved to omit the sub-section.
§ Amendment proposed— To leave out Sub-section 2".—(Mr. Bottomley.)
said he could not accept the Amendment. The custom at present was to arrest without warrant, and in this case it seemed to be necessary.
supported the Amendment. It was, he said, a monstrous thing that if two men happened to meet in the street and had a bet a constable should come up and run them in. There was something more important even than putting betting down, and that was upholding justice. This was a prostitution of law and justice. Under this Bill it would be legal for a lord or a rich man to make a bet on the racecourse, but if a poor man made a bet in the street he was to be run in. Was this great Liberal Government going to begin its work by filling the gaols of this country with, innocent men?
MR. J. W. WILSON
said he merely wished to confirm what he had said on the previous evening, that powers of this kind had already been conferred on three towns.
§ MR. SHACKLETON (Lancashire, Clitheroe)
said this Bill was aimed at the professional bookmaker, who was far better engaged serving his time in prison than in demoralising working men. In this case these people were well known, and to give a man a chance of running away every time a policeman saw him was absurd.
said it was not only the wicked bookmaker but the poor innocent working-man who put his 6d. on who was liable to arrest.
§ MR. CULLINAN
asked whether the Bill was designed to punish the bookmaker?
said the Bill was designed against the men who made a profession of betting, and frequenting places for that purpose. They were the bookmakers.
§ MR. MITCHELL-THOMSON (Lanarkshire, N.W.)
asked for an interpretation of the words "articles relating to betting." He pointed out that those words were sufficiently wide to comprehend money passed to the bookmaker, which he was sure the right hon. Gentleman did not intend. If the right hon. Gentleman agreed with him he hoped he would consider the matter and make it clear before the Report stage.
agreed that there was something in the point of the hon. Gentleman, and said he would look into it very carefully. If it was as the hon. Gentleman said, he would take care to alter it on Report.
asked whether the Bill was designed to punish bookmakers plying their trade, and not those who made occasional bets.
said a man must be frequenting a place for the purpose of betting.
said that Clause provided that if a man made a bet h was to be run in.
said he did not think the observations of the Home Secretary ought to go unchallenged. If the right hon. Gentleman meant that this Act was only to apply to those who were known as bookmakers, taking bets in the street, he thought he was mistaken; any person found in the street making a bet could be punished under this Bill.
said all he did was to answer a specific question put to him as to whether if a man made a bet in the street for the first time he would be sent to prison. He did not think any magistrate would find a person in a case like that guilty of loitering or frequenting public places for the purposes of betting.
§ *MR. WATT (Glasgow, College),
said that he was under the impression that a recent deputation to the Undersecretary had converted him to their views upon this point, but the Government had not adopted their suggestion. The Bill gave power to "seize and detain," but not the right of search. It stood to sense that such articles as books, cards and papers relating to betting would be secreted about the person. By the law of Scotland the police officer in charge of the station had not the right to search, and the object of this Amendment was to give the power under this Bill. He begged to move.
§ Amendment proposed— In page 2, line 5, after ' and,' to insert' the officer in charge of the police station to which such person is taken may cause such person to be searched and."'—(Mr. Watt.)
said the Government could not accept this Amendment because any constable at the present time had the right of search, and why should that right be limited to the officer in charge at the station? His hon. and learned friend informed him that the 1153 law in Scotland with regard to search was the same as in England.
moved to leave out Sub-section (3) of Clause 1. A person might be sent to prison for six months if, in the opinion of the Court, he had made a bet and was under the age limit allowed by this Bill. This sub-section threw the onus upon the prisoner of proving his own innocence. The proceedings under this Bill might be either in a Court of Summary Jurisdiction or by indictment. What was the position of a bookmaker who was charged with betting with someone under the age of sixteen and who honestly believed that the person he was betting with was over that age? Probably some short-sighted stipendiary magistrate would take a casual glance at the prisoner and say that he looked under the age of sixteen. Probably the boy would be sent down to the Criminal Court and possibly they would have in the end to search the register at Somerset House. [Cries of "Oh."] Hon. Members should remember that they were dealing with a Bill which immediately it became law would be construed literally according to the laws of evidence. If they gave a prisoner the benefit of such a safeguard as that which he was suggesting no man could be deprived of this plea—that he had reason to believe the prisoner was above the statutory age. He hoped they would not violate every fundamental principle of justice in the Law Courts by passing this sub-section,
§ Amendment proposed— In page 2, line 7, to leave out Sub-section (3)."—(Mr. Bottomley.)
said this sub-section referred to the lads under the age of sixteen, with whom a bookmaker made bets. There were precedents for this proposal. Surely if there was any doubt in the mind of the Court about the lad's age, they would take precautions to call for his birth certificate.
said this was another case of making a prisoner prove his innocence when it was the duty of the 1154 prosecution to prove him guilty. A more monstrous proposition he had seldom heard placed before this House.
moved to leave out Sub-section (4,) because it professed to be an interpretation clause, and this was the opportunity for the right hon. Gentleman in charge of the Bill to introduce his proposal to amend the Act so as to apply to telegraph offices and make it quite clear that the Act was intended to apply in such cases.
§ Amendment proposed— In page 2, line 10, leave out Sub-section (4).
said this subsection was intended to remove any doubt about certain places which it might be held would not come within the meaning of the Act.
§ *MR. HICKS BEACH
said that some race meetings were conducted upon open ground to which the public had free access. What the Home Secretary said was that it was the intention of this Bill simply to prohibit bookmakers frequenting the street in order to induce people to bet on things which they did not see. If there was any doubt about this question it was desirable that the Government should consider the advisability of including some proviso to exempt coursing meetings.
§ Drafting Amendment agreed to.
moved the omission of the word "unenclosed." If betting was an evil it should be dealt with as a whole and not piece-meal, and if persons who possessed much of this world's goods were to be allowed to bet because they went to an enclosed ground for access to which they paid an entrance fee, then they were tolerating within a ringed fence that which they considered an offence if it was done in a club or in a street. They must deal with the rich man as well as the poor man.
§ Amendment proposed— In page 2, line 14, to leave out the word ' unenclosed.'
§ Question proposed, "That the word proposed to be left out stand part of the Clause."
said this word was extremely necessary. The definition clause was subjected, to the closest scrutiny by eminent legal members of the House of Lords, and he was very much afraid that if any alteration were made it might endanger the passage of the Bill.
said the right hon. Gentleman had already thrown over the House of Lords by accepting an Amendment. The right hon. Gentleman had given him no answer. If betting was an evil it was the same whether carried on by rich or by poor.
said he did not see any reason why the word "unenclosed" was there. In the case of a football match or a cricket match he thought the sport was often spoiled by the betting which went on. What difference did it make whether the place was enclosed or unenclosed if the public had unrestricted access? They could not apply this Bill to private grounds, because, of course, the police could not go in.
said he would consider the matter, and if necessary propose an Amendment at a later stage.
§ MR. T. M. HEALY
said the right hon. Gentleman should accept the Amendment, and then tell the House of Lords that it came from the Tory Party in the House of Commons.
said that in view of the promise made by the Home Secretary he would ask leave to withdraw the Amendment.
§ MR. FORSTER (Kent, Sevenoaks)
moved an Amendment to make the 1156 Clause apply to any enclosed ground used for the holding of any atheltic sports or cycle racing. He wished to know the views of the Home Secretary on this matter. He believed that the National Cyclists Union was anxious that an Amendment of this kind should be inserted. It was in the interest of clean and healthy sport that the Amendment should be made
§ Amendment agreed to.
§ Motion made, and question proposed, "That Clause 1, as amended, stand part of the Bill."
§ MR.T. M. HEALY
asked the Government to consider whether in Ireland the right of appeal should not be given in the case of sentences of under one month's imprisonment. It was a real hardship that a police magistrate should be able to pass such a sentence and that the accused should not have the right of appeal. He was quite with the Government in regard to this Bill. He thought they were taking a proper step, but he held a man should not be liable to lose his liberty for a month without having the right of appeal. There was the right of appeal in England and Scotland, and he thought it was time that the whole question of public liberty should be put on the same footing in Ireland.
§ THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL FOR IRELAND (Mr. CHERRY, Liverpool, Exchange)
said the matter was one worthy of consideration. He could say for himself, and he thought he could say also for the Home Secretary, that it was a very desirable thing that there should be the right of appeal.
§ Question put, and agreed to.
said he was not quite sure of the meaning of the words "procedure before provided for." He hoped that some exception would be made, and he proposed to insert words so that the clause should road: "Nothing contained in this Act shall, save as hereinbefore 1157 provided, apply to any racecourse" He begged to move.
§ Amendment proposed— In page 2, line 10, after the word 'shall,' to insert the words ' save as hereinbefore provided.' "—(Mr. Mitchell-Thomson.)
§ Question proposed, "That those words be there inserted."
said that the point would be considered before the Report stage.
§ MR. MITCHELL-THOMSON
said he wished to move an Amendment to add to Clause 2 the words "or other quantity." He admitted that the words were somewhat curious in their present form, but if they were going to exempt racecourses, it should be remembered that there were racecourses in large numbers, especially in the north of England and in Scotland, where there were other than horse races. He referred to dog races. He maintained that a dog race was as clean as any horse race, and if exemption was desirable in one case it was also desirable in other cases. There was also the question of foot racing as well as cycling racing.
said that there was no exact analogy between coursing and horse racing. The people who attended the former meetings did not go there for the purpose of betting professionally, and those who went to enjoy legitimate sport should not come under the operation of the Act. He undertook, however, to look into the question.
MR. CHARLES CEAIG
said he presumed that most people regarded the coursing match for the Waterloo Cup as an ordinary race meeting, but the question of extending this Bill to all coursing meetings as well as to horse race meetings should be very carefully considered.
moved to amend Clause 2 by leaving out the provision that nothing contained in the Act should apply to ground "adjacent to" a racecourse on days upon which 1158 races took place. He did not see the necessity for the words.
§ Amendment proposed— In page 2, clause 2, lines 17 and 18, to leave out the words ' or adjacent thereto.' "— (Sir H. Carson).
said that there were certain parts adjacent to a racecourse which might not come within the legal definition of a racecourse. Therefore it was necessary, he thought, to have these words in. It was the first time that his attention had been drawn to this matter, however, and he would consider it.
said these were rather important words, and, like many other expressions in the Bill, would require legal definition. Did "adjacent thereto" mean fifty or 100 yards or a quarter of a mile? That would have to be settled by a Court of law. The provision meant that on Monday when races were being held you could bet at a particular place or upon a particular road, but on Tuesday when races were not being held you would get six months for doing so. He thought it was desirable that there should be some machinery established for determining this question in advance, and he hoped before the Report stage the Home Secretary would consider the matter.
thought that the Liberal Party were playing into the hands of their opponents, because they were endeavouring to put down betting in every part of the country except those which were resorted to by the aristocracy.
*THE CHAIRMAN
said the hon. Member was making remarks which should be made on the clause rather than on the present Amendment.
said in that case he should have to make a second speech.
asked whether the words "adjacent thereto" might not be held to include the betting ring.
No; that is not a public place.
§ Report made, and Question proposed "That Clause 2 stand part of the Bill."
said that the Government proposed to put down the miserable people who betted sixpence while they allowed peers and monarchs to bet in hundreds and thousands of pounds. And this was said to be the Party of the democracy. This Bill and this clause, moreover, came from the House of Lords, and no doubt the Government case was that they must take the moat they could from that House. He thought, however, that the best thing to do was to take this clause out and send the Bill back to the House of Lords and leave upon them the responsibility of restoring it.
said he had already pointed out that if they omitted this clause it would strike at the poor man and would not affect the rich, because the betting ring was protected inasmuch it was not a public place. Therefore the rich people could bet there but the poor man could not bet even upon a racecourse when races were being run. This was the result of the Kempton Park case.
said the right hon. Gentleman was mistaken about the Kempton Park case, which only applied to a house, office, or place, and not to a racecourse. The decision was under the Betting House Act, which dealt with betting houses. He was as anxious as anybody to put down this nefarious system of betting, and if the Government was honest in the matter they would put it down in the post offices. They had now left themselves open to the taunt that they put down Tom, Dick, and Harry, and allowed to go free the peers and other persons and rich people, who were the tempters in this matter, who spent their tens of thousands in so-called sport and tempted the working men. They gave the little men six months while they 1160 allowed the protectors of this vice to go free. It was the Liberal Party who were making themselves this rod to be laid on their own backs by the Conservative Party.
said he would no put himself in competition with the hon. and learned Member on a question of law, but he was advised that the law was perfectly distinct on this point, and that it was against the view taken of the hon. and learned Member.
What view?
said if this clause were struck out the betting rings on the racecourse would be perfectly immune. The words of Clause 1 were "unrestricted access." these people had not unrestricted access to the betting rings.
Epsom Downs.
That was his whole point. People did not wander up Epsom Downs making casual bets. But the class of society using the betting rings did not. If this clause was struck out the betting rings would still be immune, and they would not strike at the betting tendency of the wealthy by taking out the clause. All the criticism of this Bill had been that it was a Bill dealing with the poor and not striking at the rich, and it had been argued on that basis. If the rich man frequented a street for the purpose of betting, or if he betted with a bookmaker in the street, he would come within the provisions of the Bill. But they were now talking of omitting this clause, and he was pointing out that if it was omitted the omission would not effect the purpose they all desired to secure.
§ MR. T. W. RUSSELL
said that if this Bill raised the whole question they would have no difficulty in assenting to the clause, because they would rather have the Bill with the clause than lose it altogether; nevertheless, many Members had had great difficulty in supporting this exceptional legislation. If they could legislate against betting at street corners why could they not legislate 1161 against betting on racecourses? He had a distinct objection to saying even by implication that a thing was right on a racecourse but wrong in the streets.
said he would leave the matter to the House.
§ MR. SHACKLETON
said it appeared to him that the point they were missing was that the avowed object was to get rid of the professional bookmaker who took money from the State and gave nothing to the State back again. Taking the right hon. Gentleman's own version, a bookmaker might be in the street on Monday taking bets and he would be liable under this Act, but on Tuesday he might go on the racecourse where he would be absolutely free to bet. He did not see why they should prevent betting in the streets and legalise it on the racecourse. He thought the Home Secretary had taken a wise course by leaving the question to the House.
§ *MR. H. H. MARKS
said there was one point in connection with this clause to which he desired to allude. The object of the clause was not so much a question of the protection of the rich; it was intended to protect the poor, and more particularly the class of men who were induced to bet 1s. or 6d. in the street on a race which they did not go to see and about which they knew nothing at all. If this clause was allowed to stand, and if an exception was made in favour of the racecourse, the Committee should bear in mind what that meant. If they were serious in their desire to stop the working classes being induced to bet, surely the most effective way was to stop betting altogether, and they could do it by eliminating this clause. It was within the knowledge of everybody who knew anything of the subject that the prices which were the basis of the bets made by the working classes were what were known as starting prices, and that meant the prices which prevailed at the time the horses started. If there was no betting on the racecourses there would be no starting prices and then there could be no street betting. If they 1162 loft out this sub-clause they would stop betting at its very foundation.
§ MR. CLOUGH
said he should vote against this clause, because it was class legislation of the worst type. The House of Lords seek to take the mote out of the eye of the working class, whilst they keep the beam in the eye of their own class by carefully preserving the race-courses for their indulgence. To reject this clause at this stage does not necessitate losing the Bill, because the House of Lords frequently reject clauses which are sent up to them by the House of Commons, and we are perfectly within our right by now rejecting a clause in a Bill which has come from them to us.
said he did not think they ought to assume that the House of Lords would at all insist upon this clause. It was plain that the Bill was drawn to put down street betting, but if there was a general expression of opinion that the Bill ought to be made wider in its scope he did not think it was fair to assume that the House of Lords would not adopt the measure in its wider form.
said that anything more ridiculous for the House to do than to strike out this clause he had never heard. The Bill was intended to deal with street betting, and this kind of betting was as different from betting on the racecourse as black was from white. It was now proposed to extend the Bill in a way that was never intended, and to place the onus on the House of Lords. The measure dealt with an admitted evil, and to say that they should include betting of all sorts would be a very injudicious course to pursue. He suggested that the Bill should be allowed to pass as it was because it struck at a very serious evil. Nobody had made a case beyond a sentimental one for the proposition which had been made. If this Bill passed there would be no street betting, and when street betting disappeared hon. Members would have carried out what they intended by this Act.
said he gathered that the opinion of the Committee was 1163 against this clause. He did not take that view, and he rose to ask the Home Secretary if this clause was thrown out to postpone the Report stage.
I think a question of that kind should be brought on later.
said that if they left out Clause 2 they would make it a fresh Bill altogether. The most sanguine supporter of the Bill could not claim any mandate to suppress betting altogether in Great Britain. Therefore they ought to pause before they dropped this subsection. If they stopped betting in the street they should also stop betting by telegraph, and that alone would cost the country £250,000 a year. If they made betting illegal it did not follow that they would stop betting. He hoped the Home Secretary would at least consent, in view of the enormous change which would be made by this proposal in the whole scope of the Bill, to postpone this question until the Report stage.
said that upon street betting the opinion of the country was ripe for legislation, but not one hon. Member had advocated at the election the putting down of race meetings.
said that as one who did go to race meetings he wished to point out that there were two kinds of racecourses, those which were known as enclosed and those which were open. If this clause were omitted it would still be possible for anybody who went to Kempton Park races to be entirely outside the scope of the Bill, whereas at Epsom, on Derby Day, the Bill would not prevent the working man indulging in a little betting. He hoped the operation of this Act would be confined to street betting.
§ MR. CROSSLEY (Cheshire, Altrincham)
said he was anxious that street betting should be put down. All employers of labour must know what a nuisance this street betting was. Not long ago a poor widow told him that a bookmaker was hanging about his works, inducing boys to bet. He would prefer to carry a 1164 measure suppressing street betting rather than risk the chance of dealing with this question altogether by accepting the proposal before the House.
§ THE LORD ADVOCATE (Mr. THOMAS SHAW, Hawick Burghs)
said he was very anxious that this Bill should pass into law this session, and if possible this month. The proposal had been made that this clause should be omitted. He should deplore that extremely. There was no doubt whatever that if that course were taken this Bill would not see the Statute-book until October, and that would be a great calamity. The urgency for this Bill was great. They were legislating not for the whole of the betting evil in the country—he wished they were —but for betting in its most acute and urgent form.
§ MR. DICKINSON (St. Pancras, N.)
said this clause placed on the Statute-book words which recognised racecourses as places suitable for betting. That made him and some others hesitate about giving it support. He hoped the Government would not force them into the position of recognising betting upon race-courses in that way.
§ MR. ARTHUR HENDERSON (Durham, Barnard Castle)
said that every night in order to expedite legislation in these late discussions they were asked to water down measures containing important principles which some of them had taken an active part in advocating in the country. He thought they would, do better to delay for a few months, or Bill another session, legislation on some of these great questions, in order to get something that would effectively deal with the evils. What he and those associated with him had to guard against was the creation of a suspicion that they were seeking in this case to put down an evil by which the working classes were very much touched, while permitting the evil to exist so far as their so-called social superiors were concerned. They had been told repeatedly by the Home Secretary that the object of the measure was to get at the professional bookmaker. Did they only want to get 1165 at the professional bookmaker in the public thoroughfare on Monday, and leave him absolutely free to go to the racecourse on Tuesday? If betting was wrong in the one case, he did not think this House should give its approval to betting in the other. They must guard against the impression that they were guilty in this House of promoting class legislation. The front Ministerial Bench was divided on this question. [An HON. MEMBER: No.] He said "Yes." the Home Secretary left this question open to the House, and the Lord Advocate solemnly appealed to them to take a particular course.
§ MR. THOMAS SHAW
said he did not presume to interfere with what was said by his right hon. friend, but the interests of the Bill were to him very sacred. He had pointed out what might happen if this Amendment were carried, and he was within his rights in doing that.
§ MR. ARTHUR HENDERSON
said he was not disputing the rights of the Lord Advocate.
§ *MR. HERBERT GLADSTONE
That is not in the least inconsistent.
said he had not stated that it was inconsistent. The right hon. Gentleman said he was prepared to leave the question open, and then the Lord Advocate made an earnest appeal to the Committee to leave the clause in the Bill. He thought he was right in saying that there was a division of opinion on the front bench. He hoped the Committee would reject the clause.
§ MR. A. E. W. MASON (Coventry)
said that, although he had every sympathy with the object of the hon. Member for Barnard Castle, he did not think the leaving out of the sub-section would have the effect he supposed, for it would still be limited by the definition of "public place" as including "any public park, garden, or sea beach, and any unenclosed ground to which the public for the time being have unrestricted access." So far as he knew there were only two 1166 racecourses in England to which the public had unrestricted access. To his mind the question opened up was too wide to be settled at that hour of the morning.
§ *MR. BERTRAM (Hertfordshire, Hitchin)
said he entirely sympathised with the hon. Gentleman in saying that the Party to which he belonged would be made thoroughly unpopular in the country by this kind of legislation. He recognised that there was a difference between a man making a bet on an event which he saw, and making a bet at a street corner on an event which he could not see. The hon. Member for Barnard Castle talked about watering down the measure; but the omission of the Clause would vastly enlarge the scope of the Bill, which was only meant to put down betting at street corners; and it would be very unwise to risk the Bill by insisting on Amendments which would be refused in another place, and which would have a far greater effect than this Bill was ever intended to have. He should vote for the retention of the Clause.
§ *MR. GIBBS (Bristol, W.)
said that the Bill was directed against bookmakers who made bets at street corners with poor people; and if the clause under discussion was omitted it would not be legislating in the interests of the poor. They were dealing with the case where the bookmaker came to the people, and not where, as on Epsom Downs, the people went to the bookmaker.
§ MR. ESSEX (Gloucestershire, Cirencester)
asked whether the clause gave additional sanction to betting on racecourses. If it did strengthen the right to bet on racecourses he would vote against it.
§ VISCOUNT MORPETH
said that an hon. Gentleman on the Ministerial side was afraid that the popularity of the Government would be weakened if any attempt at legislation were made without a mandate from the country. If he thought this clause would make the Government unpopular it would be an inducement to some hon. Members on the Opposition side of the House to vote for it. Almost every Member who had supported the 1167 Bill had declined again and again that this was a class measure and was intended to prevent a poor man putting a shilling on a horse on a race, but would not prevent the wealthy man from betting his £50 or £100. The first thing this democratic Government did was, instead of protecting the mill hand and other members of the working class, to introduce a piece of class legislation.
§ MR. RICHARDSON (Nottingham, S.)
bore testimony to the mischief which the street betting carried on by the bookmaker with men, women, and children wrought, and said that although it might make him unpopular with some of his constituents for a time, as the result of a choice of evils he intended to vote for this clause. He would leave the question to the common sense of the working men later on.
said it was an extraordinary fact that this Bill was brought forward to defend a child from
§ betting anywhere except on a racecourse. Formerly there was a right of sanctuary in this country, but it was confined to cathedrals, but now the right of sanctuary was only to be found upon a gambling ground. It was said that the Government would be unpopular if the Bill were passed, but at all events it could not be accused of not having the courage of its convictions, although it might be considered hypocritical, as this was the first time that it had been laid down that a racecourse was a sacred place.
§ MR. J. M. ROBERTSON (Northumberland, Tyneside)
said it was idle to legislate in advance of public opinion, and if they tried to put down betting on a racecourse the Act would be a dead letter.
§ The Committee divided:—Ayes, 77 Noes 69. (Division List No. 299.)
Acland, Francis Dyke Forster, Henry William Raphael, Herbert H.
Allen,A.Acland (Christchurch Fuller, John Michael F. Rees, J. D.
Balcarres, Lord Fullerton, Hugh Rendall, Athelstan
Barlow, Percy (Bedford) Gibbs, G. A. (Bristol, West) Richardson, A.
Barran, Rowland Hirst Gladstone,Rt.HnHerbertJohn Roberts, Charles H. (Lincoln)
Beach, Hn.MichaelHughHicks Haworth, Arthur A. Rose, Charles Day
Beale, W. P. Hayden, John Patrick Runciman, Walter
Beaumont, W. C. B. (Hexham) Illingworth, Percy H. Schwann, C. Duncan (Hyde)
Benn, W.(T'w'rHamlets,S.Geo. Jones, William(Carnarvonshire) Shaw,Rt. Hon. T. (Hawick, B.
Bertram, Julius Kearley, Hudson E. Shipman, Dr. John G.
Billson, Alfred Levy, Maurice Simon, John Allsebrook
Bottomley, Horatio Lewis, John Herbert Sinclair, Rt. Hon. John
Bridgeman, W. Clive Lyell, Charles Henry Stanley,Hn. A. Lyulph (Chesh.)
Bryce, J. A. (InvernessBurghs) MacVeigh,Charles(Donegal,E. Straus, B. S. (Mile End)
Carr-Gomm, H. W. M'Kenna, Reginald Strauss, E. A. (Abingdon)
Cawley, Frederick Marks, G.Croydon(Launceston Stuart, James (Sunderland)
Cherry, Rt. Hon. R. R. Mason, A. E. W. (Coventry) Thompson,J.W.H.(Somerset,E.
Cobbold, Felix Thornley Morgan, G. Hay (Cornwall) Ure, Alexander
Corbett,CH.(Sussex,E.Grinst'd Morse, L. L. Ward,W.Dudley(Southampt'n
Craig,CharlesCurtis(Antrim,S. Nicholls, George Watt, H. Anderson
Crossley, William J. Norton, Capt. Cecil William Wilkie, Alexander
Duckworth, James Nuttall, Harry Wilson.Henry J. (York,W.R.)
Dunn, A. Edward (Camborne) O'Connor, John (Kildare, N.) Winfrey, R.
Edwards, Clement (Denbigh) O'Connor, T. P. (Liverpool)
Elibank, Master of Paulton, James Mellor TELLERS FOR THE AYES—Mr.
Ferens, T. R. Pease,.J. A. (Saffron Walden) J. W. Wilson and Mr. John
Flavin, Michael Joseph Philipps,Col.Ivor(S'thampton Robertson.
NOES.
Baring, Godfrey (Isle of Wight) Bowles, G. Stewart Byles, William Pollard
Barnard, E. B. Brooke, Stopford Channing, Francis Allston
Black, Arthur W.(Bedfordshire) Brunner, J.F.L.(Lancs.,Leigh) Clancy, John Joseph
Clough, W. Johnson, John (Gateshead) Samuel, Herbert L. (Cleveland)
Collins,SirWm.J.(S.Pancras,W. Lamb, Ernest H. (Rochester) Scott,A.H(Ashton-under-Lyne
Cornwall, Sir Edwin A. Lamont, Norman Seely, Major J. B.
Cory, Clifford John Lever, A. Levy(Essex,Harwich Shackleton, David James
Craig, Herbert J. (Tynemouth) Lloyd-George, Rt. Hon. David Silcock, Thomas Ball
Cullinan, J. MacVeagh,Jeremiah (Down, S.) Smyth, Thomas F. (Leitrim, S.)
Dickinson, W.H.(St.Pancras,N M'Killop. W. Sullivan, Donal
Dobson, Thomas W. Marks, H. H. (Kent) Sutherland, J. E.
Essex, R. W. Mond, A Taylor, John W. (Durham)
Everett, R. Lacey Montagu, E. S. Tennant,Sir Edward(Salisbury)
Fenwick, Charles Montgomery, H. G. Thomson, W.Mitchell-(Lanark
Ffrench, Peter Morpeth, Viscount Verney, F. W.
Gill, A. H Murphy, John Waterlow, D. S.
Glover, Thomas Nolan, Joseph White, George (Norfolk)
Goddard, Daniel Ford O'Brien, K. (Tipperary Mid) White, Patrick (Meath,North)
Greenwood, G. (Peterborough) O'Malley, William Whiteley,George (York,W. R.)
Hay, Hon. Claude George O'Mara, James
Hazleton, Richard Paul, Herbert TELLERS FOK THE NOES—Mr.
Healy, Timothy Michael Pearce, Robert (Staffs. Leek) Arthur Henderson and Mr.
Higham, John Sharp Price, C. B. (Edinb'gh, Central) Ramsay Macdonald.
Hyde, Clarendon Rickett, J. Compton
Jenkins, J. Russell, T. W.
Resolution agreed to.
moved to report progress.
THE DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN
said the rule was suspended in order to get through business.
said Scotland was very much interested in this matter of street betting. In Scotland there was a system of houses—of flat tenements approached by a passage or a common stair. The passage and common stair had been found to be a very convenient situation for bookmakers to take up a position in. They stood in one of these passages during the dinner hour when the working men were coming home to their meal, and there was an instance where a bookmaker induced in thirty minutes fifteen men to make bets with him. In 1903 there was a decision in Scotland which held that a passage or common stair was not a place within the meaning of the Act. He begged to move an Amendment to deal with this point.
§ Amendment proposed— In page 2, line 20, at end, to add the words and "passage" Includes common close or common stair or passage leading thereto; and, in the event of an offender failing to make payment of a fine imposed under Section 1, (1), (a) or (b) of this Act, he shall be liable to 1170 imprisonment in accordance with the provisions of the Summary Jurisdiction Acts.'"—(Mr. Thomas Shaw.)
§ Question proposed, 'That those words be there added."
entirely agreed with what had been said by the right hon. Gentleman. All he desired to know was whether under the Summary Jurisdiction Act in England imprisonment was contemplated, because if so he thought Scotland should be placed on an equality in that regard.
said he believed that was so.
said he hoped the Committee would permit him to add the following words, which he thought were necessary— Any offence under this Act may be tried before the Sheriff Court.
§ Clause 3 amended, and agreed to.
§ Clause 4 agreed to.
§ Bill reported, with Amendments; as amended, to be considered To-morrow.
Back to Mr. EMMOTT (Oldham) in the Chair.
Forward to CENSUS OF PRODUCTION BILL.


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Turkey, US to Decide How to Govern Syria's Manbij After Kurdish Withdrawal
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ANKARA (Sputnik) - Ankara and Washington will make a joint decision on the formation of the leadership in Syria's Manbij after the Syrian Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) leave the city, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said on Wednesday.
Relations between Turkey and the United States are in crisis because of US support for the YPG, which Ankara considers a terrorist group linked to the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) banned in Turkey. Washington explains its actions by the need to combat the Daesh* terrorist group.
Earlier, Turkey repeatedly accused the United States of not delivering on its promises to withdraw the YPG from Manbij as the Kurdish formations liberated the city from Daesh in June 2016.
On May 17, Cavusoglu said Ankara expected an agreement with Washington on the roadmap for Manbij on June 4, during his meeting with US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
READ MORE: Turkish Op in Syria: US Promises to Retaliate Against Any Attack on Manbij — SDF
"The roadmap for Manbij has specific steps, they are tied to the calendar. A concrete step: YPG will leave. Turkey, along with the US, will decide who will take part in the leadership instead of YPG, and who will participate in the security forces, perhaps on a parity basis," Cavusoglu said, as quoted by the Hurriyet newspaper.
It is necessary to take measures to ensure security after the withdrawal of the YPG from Manbij, so that their place is not occupied by "other terrorists," the minister stressed.
"This is a region where the Arabs account for more than 90 percent of the local population, Kurds only two percent, and it is impossible for them to be represented at more than two percent in the leadership. After successful implementation in Manbij, it will become a model for entire northern Syria, in particular, Raqqa, Kobani, but where the majority of the population is Kurds, it is natural that the leadership is Kurdish," Cavusoglu said.
Turkey, US Agree on Roadmap for Cooperation in Syria's Manbij
He continued saying that Ankara was also discussing with Washington what would happen with the YPG formations after their withdrawal from Manbij.
"Where will they go? To the desert? Who will be able to return to peaceful life after laying down their arms? These details are very important, and we are discussing them with the military, with the intelligence, at the meetings of our delegations," Cavusoglu said.
Later in the day, the head of the city's military council told Sputnik that Turkey and the United States have not reached an agreement on the settlement of the situation in Manbi.
"To date, the US and Turkey have not reached an agreement," Muhammad Abu Adel said, adding that reports on the alleged deal were "just speculations in the media."
He went on saying that there were no Kurdish forces in the city. He specified that there were only residents who had defended the city, while units of the Syrian Democratic Forces had completely withdrawn from the city.
On January 20, Turkey and the Free Syrian Army (FSA) opposition forces launched Operation Olive Branch in the Syrian northern district of Afrin aimed at "clearing" Turkey's Syrian border of the YPG and the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD). In March, Ankara announced that Afrin was under complete control of Turkish forces. Erdogan, however, said that the operation would not end with Afrin, clarifying that the regions of Manbij and Idlib would be the next targets.
*Daesh (also known as ISIS/ISIL/IS) is a terrorist group banned in Russia
FSA Commander: US, Turkey in Talks Over Turkish Military Operation in Manbij
Dozens of French Military Personnel Spotted on Syria's Manbij Border (PHOTO)
US Military Reportedly Sends More Troops to Syria's Manbij
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'The Summer of Broken Things' by Margaret Peterson Haddix Illustrates What Makes Family in this Touching Young Adult Novel
May 10, 2018 May 10, 2018 / Pamela Kramer
In "The Summer of Broken Things," Margaret Peterson Haddix departs from her beloved sci-fi stories, and she includes no hidden children, just two teenagers from very different families — and very different socio-economic backgrounds — who are going to spend the summer together in Spain. But there is something hidden from their past.
Although Avery and Kayla have known each other since birth, it hasn't been a close relationship. Originally, Avery was told that Kayla's mother was friends with her nanny. But even after Avery no longer needed the nanny, Kayla's mother still brought gifts for Avery at holidays. When Avery's dad is going to Spain for the summer, he suggests that Avery and a friend go with him. She's stunned that the person accompanying them isn't really a friend, it's Kayla Butts from the middle of nowhere.
Haddix has the girls tell their stories through an alternating first person narrator. To make it clear who is narrating, the chapter heading includes the name of the narrator. It's a nice touch because at times it does get a tad confusing.
What Haddix does beautifully is compare the personalities of two very different girls. One has grown up with everything handed to her on a silver plate. The other, Kayla, grew up with a father who has been paralyzed since her early childhood and isn't able to communicate. Her mother works as a nursing home assistant, and they live with Kayla's grandparents. Kayla's best friends are the folks at the nursing home because she visits them daily when helping her mom. Her life, has in many ways, been the opposite of Avery's.
Spain almost becomes a third character in the story. The girls narrate their adventures as they navigate the small streets and sit on their balcony in the evening. Learning about the brilliant hot sun and the charming Spanish streets makes readers yearn for a trip of their own to Spain.
Readers will love seeing Kayla gradually change and grow. They will also be touched when the girls must overcome a tragedy and work together to get through it. The story is about two people learning from each other and coming to respect each other. It's about opening doors to new experiences and new challenges. And it delves into the question of what makes family? Blood ties? Shared experiences? What kind of bond? And along the way, there's a lot of great information about Spain.
Please note: This review is based on the final, hardcover book provided by the publisher for review purposes.
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1 Employment and Support Allowance Information Pack
External | Employment and Support Allowance November 2007 Employment and Support Allowance Information Pack Note to presenter: This presentation provides background information on the ESA "Customer Journey". This pack has been developed for the external audience and should not be used for internal communications. A separate Internal Communications Pack has already been issued and a Customer Journey for use with customer representative groups and Partner organisations will be made available in January. In addition to this information there is a separate Internal Communications Pack issued 20 November 2007 which provides line managers with detailed information on ESA. Operational Leads and Transformation Managers are informed about ESA and will be happy to support. "Work for those who can; improved support for those who can't"
2 Why are we introducing the Employment and Support Allowance?
The Employment and Support Allowance plays a pivotal role in delivering the Government's vision of a modern active welfare state, as a replacement for Incapacity Benefits. Focus on helping individuals realise their full potential and a better life through the world of work. Employment and Support Allowance will provide a gateway to work, assessing people's capability to work and not just their entitlement to benefit; whilst ensuring that people who are unable to work receive the support they need. Bullet Point 1 - The Government published a Green Paper 'A new deal for welfare: Empowering people to work' on 24 January This was a landmark document for the Department in meeting its objectives of promoting opportunity and independence for all. It contained major proposals to help individuals achieve their potential through work. 2.66m people in receipt of Incapacity Benefit – these figures have been broadly static over last 10 years 1 million Incapacity Benefit customers say they want to work If on Incapacity Benefit for 2 years, a person is more likely to retire or die on the benefit than return to work Inactivity worsens the health of many customers Incapacity Benefit is geared to proving incapacity rather than supporting and promoting capability for work Bullet Point 2 - An independent review of the scientific evidence shows that work is generally good for health and well-being. Long periods out of work are among the greatest known risks to health. For people with common health problems, there is strong evidence that work: promotes recovery and aids rehabilitation; leads to better health outcomes; minimises the harmful physical, mental and social effects of long-term sickness absence; improves quality of life and well-being reduces social exclusion and poverty (Waddell G, Burton AK. Is work good for your health and well-being? The Stationery Office, 2006)
3 What is Employment and Support Allowance?
Employment and Support Allowance will bring a more active system of support for people who have a health condition or disability, which will be introduced from October 2008. The Employment and Support Allowance regime will be delivered through existing Jobcentre Plus network of Contact Centres, Benefit Delivery Centres and Jobcentre Plus offices. Bullet point 1 - Employment and Support Allowance will be introduced from October 2008 for new and non-linking claims only. Customers who have a current claim for Incapacity Benefit or Income Support at October 2008 will remain on those benefits. If a customer makes a claim after October 2008, which links to a prior claim of Incapacity Benefit or Income Support, then they will continue to receive those benefits. Bullet Point 2 – Additional Information for Presenter Your local Contact Centres and Benefit Delivery Centres site info can be found on the Employment and Support Allowance Intranet site.
4 Cont… It will bring together Incapacity Benefit and Income Support into a single benefit for people with health problems or disabilities, combined with a work focused support regime for those who can benefit from work, and condition management support. Pathways to Work will underpin the new Employment and Support Allowance, by providing work focused interviews and work related activity.
5 What has Pathways to Work achieved so far?
Almost 32,000 recorded job entries for Incapacity Benefit (IB) customers. A significant increase in the number of customers leaving IB in the first 6 months of their claim compared to non-Pathways Districts. Additional Information for Presenter Please note – this is the latest statistical information available from the Pathways Project. The early findings from the independent research conducted by the Institute for Fiscal Studies shows a nine percentage point increase in the proportion of people who are employed ten and a half months after claiming incapacity benefits and there is also a significant impact on net monthly earnings.
6 ( National Figures for period Oct 2003 – March 2006)
Cont…. Research shows that after 10.5 months, 32% of new IB customers in Pathways districts were in employment compared to an expectation of only 22.5% without Pathways. 25,380 people have been awarded the Return to Work Credit. 14,520 people were referred to the Condition Management Programme. ( National Figures for period Oct 2003 – March 2006) Bullet Point 2 – Return To Work Credit is a non-taxable weekly payment of £40, paid for a maximum of 52 weeks to customers who work 16 hours or more a week and earn £15,000 gross or less a year. Bullet Point 3 - The Condition Management Programme is a scheme established to help people who are claiming a benefit due to ill health, manage their health condition sufficiently to enable them to return to work. The scheme was established through the joint working of Jobcentre Plus and the local NHS. The scheme is completely voluntary and does not affect the client's entitlement to benefit. It is designed for those people who wish to overcome their health barriers to work and who would like to learn how to manage their condition more effectively. Jobcentre Plus led Districts work with the NHS to deliver the Condition Management Programme. In provider led Districts, providers will work with health care professionals to deliver the Condition Management Programme.
7 Employment and Support Allowance will…
Provide a gateway to work; assessing people's capability for work and not just their entitlement to benefit, while ensuring that people who are unable to work receive support. Quickly and sensitively identify those eligible for enhanced support. Provide improved customer experience by making it easier and simpler to apply for benefits, with quick and sensitive handling to confirm eligibility, rights and responsibilities. Bullet Point 1 - The Employment and Support Allowance represents much more than a replacement for Incapacity Benefit. It is a huge culture change that shifts the emphasis from incapacity to capacity and concentrates on support built around individual customer needs. Bullet Point 2 - Those customers with the most severe disabilities or illnesses such as those who are terminally ill, (those who have been assessed as having limited or no capability for work related activity – expected to be 5 – 10%) will receive the basic allowance and a support component, which will be set at a higher rate than the work-related activity component. Receipt is not dependent on the customer's participation in work-related activity. However, if customers wish, on a voluntary basis, to take appropriate steps towards work, they will be able to do so, by using Pathways to Work to access work related activity. Bullet Point 3 – Automating processes, using existing customer data where possible, maximising the use of successful existing technologies and training and supporting Jobcentre Plus people to deliver an effective and efficient service.
8 Employment and Support Allowance Process
Extra premiums where appropriate Work related activity component Support component First contact by customer Notes to Presenter: When a customer applies for ESA they enter a 13-week assessment phase. The customer will receive a basic rate equivalent to the personal age related allowance paid in Jobseeker's Allowance for the first 13 weeks (the amount for those claiming the income related element will also depend on whether they have a partner). After week 9 the vast majority of customers will attend an initial Work Focused Interview (WFI). This will start the customer looking at their future work prospects and aspirations. It will also be used to introduce the customer to the WFI regime and assist the customer in their WCA journey. During the assessment phase a customer will participate in a Work Capability Assessment, which will determine their eligibility for ESA after 13 weeks. As part of the Work Capability Assessment, a Work Focused Health Related Assessment takes place for all customers who have a face to face assessment, focusing on the customers ability to work and to advise what help and support they may need to go back to work. Once the assessment phase is complete and a customer has completed the Work Capability Assessment and found to have limited capability for work, they will move on to the main phase of ESA Customers will be placed in the Work Related Activity group or Support Group. ESA made up of different amounts, Basic Allowance, Work-Related Activity Component or Support Component with Extra Premiums (in income-related benefit only). Sanctions are only applied to the main phase benefit (more on sanctions later). Assessment Phase where a Personal Capability Assessment will be undertaken When a customer applies for Employment and Support Allowance they will enter a 13-week assessment phase. The customer will receive a basic rate equivalent to the personal age related allowance paid in Jobseeker's Allowance for those first 13 weeks (the amount for those claiming the income related element will also depend on whether they have a partner). During the assessment phase a customer will go through a revised Personal Capability Assessment, which will determine their eligibility for Employment and Support Allowance. As part of the Personal Capability Assessment, a Work Focused Health Related Assessment takes place, focusing on the customers ability to work and to advise what help and support they may need to re-enter the work arena. Once the assessment phase is complete and a customer has completed the Personal Capability Assessment, they will move on to the main phase of Employment and Support Allowance. Customers will be placed in the Work Activity Related group or Support Group. Employment and Support Allowance is made up of different amounts, Basic Allowance, Work-Related Activity Component or Support Component, Extra Premiums (in income-related benefit only). Allowance set at JSA level 13 weeks Main Phase
9 The Work Capability Assessment will…
Include updated mental and physical health assessments, including the interaction between physical and mental health. Incorporate a Work Focused Health Related Assessment to look at what the customer can do, not just what they cannot do, and identify any health barriers to work. Bullet Point 1 – The new personal Capability Assessment means that there will be no exemption process for customers – this is replaced by the Support Group criteria. There are special provisions for customers claiming under "Special Rules" – i.e. Terminal Illnesses. All first referrals will be "face to face" examinations, with revised descriptors for both physical and mental health conditions. Bullet Point 2 - The Work Focused Health Related Assessment (WHFHRA) is a new element of the PCA process that will ensure that we accurately assess what a customer can do and the help and support they will need to manage their condition and increase the likelihood of a return to work. It will include exploring with the customer their beliefs and perceptions about themselves and their disabling condition, that may be preventing them from returning to work. It will enable us to develop a plan of support tailored to the individual's needs. WFHRA replaces the current Capability Report (CR1) More detail than the current Capability Report Made available to Incapacity Benefit Personal Adviser/Providers only Produced in first referrals only
10 What does Employment and Support Allowance mean for customers?
We will offer customers the choice on how to claim Employment and Support Allowance. For most, a single telephone call, with no forms to complete will be all that is needed to start the process. We will of course see customers at a Jobcentre if they wish to have a face to face interview. Bullet Point 2 - The Pathways-style support on offer will provide a range of options including Condition Management Programmes. There will be no obligation on the customer to take up the Condition Management Programmes support at the time the allowance is introduced.
11 Cont…. We will ask customers to attend a Work Focused Interview at the Jobcentre around 9 weeks after they have claimed. A Personal Adviser will discuss with the customer their entitlement, their aspirations for work, the steps they might take to help them take up a job and the support that is available to them. Bullet Point 1 - These will usually take place monthly although there is flexibility around this. The information from the Work Focused Health Related Assessment will help inform discussion at these subsequent interviews.
12 Cont…. Most customers in the work-related activity group will have a further series of five interviews with a Personal Adviser from Shaw Trust, our contracted partner focused on helping them back to work. The customer will be provided with an action plan, which will reflect the discussion at each interview, including the steps a customer could take to help them take up a job or prepare to return to work.
13 What about existing customers?
Existing customers on incapacity benefits will continue to receive Incapacity Benefit after October 2008 and will have their benefit levels protected. Anyone on incapacity benefits will be able to volunteer for appropriate support through Pathways to Work (fully rolled out nationally by April 2008). At some point in the future existing incapacity benefits customers will move to the Employment and Support Allowance, as resources allow. Additional Information for Presenter The migration of current Incapacity Benefits/Income Support customers is currently out of scope for the Employment and Support Allowance Programme. Any questions about existing customers moving onto Employment and Support Allowance cannot be answered. No decision has been made about migration of existing customers who currently claim Incapacity Benefits/Income Support.
14 Employment and Support Allowance The Customer Journey
External | Employment and Support Allowance November 2007 Employment and Support Allowance The Customer Journey "Work for those who can; improved support for those who can't"
15 WORK CAPABILITY ASSESSMENT
ESA Customer Journey DAY BENEFIT ENTITLEMENT This shows the steps taken to establish the customer's benefit entitlement. WORK CAPABILITY ASSESSMENT This shows the steps taken to determine the customers 'Limited capability for work'. WORK-FOCUSED SUPPORT Jobcentre services, including Pathways provider services, are available to the customer from Day 1.
ESA Customer Journey DAY 1 BENEFIT ENTITLEMENT Customer rings 0800 number to make a claim for benefit. The customer selects the new claim option for sick/disabled people. Jobcentre Plus receives the call, confirms identity and takes the claim. Asks the customers if they wish to claim under 'Special Rules'. Call recording means there is no requirement for a customer signature. WORK CAPABILITY ASSESSMENT WORK-FOCUSED SUPPORT Jobcentre services, including Pathways provider services, are available to the customer from Day 1. Presenter Notes. Jobcentre Plus asks the customer for their national insurance number and a number of security questions to confirm their identify. The customer is then asked a series of questions to complete the information needed for the claim. They will also be asked if they wish to claim under Special Rules. These are terminally ill customers. This allows their claim to be fast-tracked for both the 'Support group' payment and WCA process. At the same time they will be asked associated benefit questions, such as 'If they would like to claim HB/ CTB etc'. If the customer requests a call back, one will be arranged. If the customer asks for benefit advice they will be offered an interview with a Financial Adviser in their local Jobcentre. At the end of the call the customer is advised of their rights and responsibilities and asked to forward any evidence that is required within a calendar month. A customer statement is issued for the customer to check. This does not need to be signed due to call recording. Our most vulnerable customers can also access this service via most Jobcentres where a claim may be taken face to face.
ESA Customer Journey DAY 2 - 3 DAY 5 DAY 8 / 9 BENEFIT ENTITLEMENT The Customer receives a printed Customer Statement for checking, and gathers any further evidence required. The Customer continues to gather required evidence. Jobcentre Plus receives medical services report for 'Special Rules' customers and makes a decision on Limited Capability for Work and 'group'. The Customer sends required evidence to the Benefit Delivery Centre in envelope provided. Evidence received in Benefit Delivery Centre. Medical Certificate received and consideration for early entry to WCA process by Jobcentre Plus. WORK CAPABILITY ASSESSMENT If the Customer is claiming under Special Rules their GP or HCP may be contacted for further evidence. WORK-FOCUSED SUPPORT Jobcentre services, including Pathways provider services, are available to the Customer. Presenters Notes Day2/3 The customer statement does not have to be signed or returned. Evidence required might be: sick note from their doctor, evidence of wages from employer, evidence of outgoings, eg. Rent and mortgage details. At the same time they will be asked associated benefit questions, such as 'If they would like to claim HB/ CTB etc'. Terminally Ill customers are referred for WCA immediately with a very quick response from medical Services. They will contact the customers GP or Health Care professional for more evidence to enable an assessment to be made. Day 5 A report is issued to Jobcentre Plus for consideration. Special Rules cases can be identified by BDCs in first week. Once a customer is in the 'support group' they are no longer required to participate in the work focused regime. Day 8/9 Claim evidence is received. The benefit processing Officer considers the nature of the customers incapacity and if it is expected to be more than 4 weeks the customer is referred to Medical Services at this point.
ESA Customer Journey DAY 11 DAY 30 DAY 33 BENEFIT ENTITLEMENT The Customer's claim to ESA processed. The Customer receives payment on the due pay day. The Local Authority is also advised of the customer's ESA entitlement. If customer has not returned the required evidence claim may be considered as defective. WORK CAPABILITY ASSESSMENT The customer receives a questionnaire from Medical Services (If early referral made on receipt of Med Cert) This needs to be completed and returned as soon as possible, but within 6 weeks from date of issue. All remaining customers will receive a questionnaire from Medical Services. WORK-FOCUSED SUPPORT Jobcentre services, including Pathways provider services, are available to the customer. Presenters Notes: Day 11 The customer's claim is processed and entitlement notification issued. A report is also sent to the Local Authority on entitlement to ESA to consider eligibility to associated LA benefits. If referred to the WCA early the customer will receive a Self Assessment Questionnaire to complete. The customer has up to 6 weeks to return this but most return it in 7 days. by Day 30 If a customer is still in receipt of benefit by day 28 and has not been referred to Medical Services by this point their details will be passed across to start the WCA process. The customer will receive their self assessment questionnaire. Day 33 'Defective Claim' is a claim which has not met the evidence requirements within the prescribed time limits.
ESA Customer Journey DAY 34 DAY 36 DAY 37 BENEFIT ENTITLEMENT Customers allocated to the Support Group from the information on the questionnaire receive their decision. WORK CAPABILITY ASSESSMENT The customer completes and returns the questionnaire in the envelope provided. Other customers receive an appointment for their Work Capability and Work Focused Health Related Assessments. WORK-FOCUSED SUPPORT Jobcentre services, including Pathways provider services, are available to the customer. Presenters Notes Day 34 The customer completes their self assessment questionnaire and returns it to medical services. Day 36 If there is enough information in the Self Assessment Questionnaire to assess limited capability for work this will be done and Jobcentre Plus advised. Jobcentre Plus will then decide on limited Capability for work using the medical services report and assign the customer to the 'Support' group. All possible 'Work Related Activity Group' customer are required to attend a face to face assessment with a few exceptions. Customers in the support group are not required to participate in the Work Focussed Regime. Day 37 The customer receives a telephone call to agree an appointment for the WCA and WFHRA. If no telephone number is available Medical Services will issue a letter asking the customer to contact to arrange an appointment. If no contact is made an appointment will then be set and issued. The new assessment will replace the current Personal Capability Assessment. The WFHRA test will focus less on what a person can't do and more on what an individual can do, such as if they are able to operate IT equipment. It will also identify health-related support that could help an individual return to work. 40% of those who take the test will not pass it – resulting in 20,000 fewer people joining the sickness benefits system each year. (Additional info - The new test is part of a wide range of measures to make sure that everyone has the opportunity to work, even if they have a health condition or disability. There are currently 2.64 million people of working age claiming incapacity benefits and in 2006/7 this cost nearly £12.5 billion).
ESA Customer Journey DAY 43 DAY 45 DAY 47 BENEFIT ENTITLEMENT The customer receives their benefit payment decision. WORK CAPABILITY ASSESSMENT The customer attends a joint appointment for a Work Capability and a Work Focused Health Related Assessment. The customer receives an outcome letter for the Work Capability Assessment and a copy of the Work Focused Health Related Assessment report. WORK-FOCUSED SUPPORT Jobcentre services, including Pathways provider services, are available to the customer. The customer receives a phone call from the Jobcentre inviting them to attend a Work Focused Interview with a Personal Adviser. Then customer receives a letter from the Jobcentre confirming their Work Focused Interview appointment. Presenter's Notes Day 43 The customer attends an appointment for WCA and WFHRA. Medical Services conduct the WCA and WFHRA and complete required reports. The WCA report is made available for BDC staff electronically via MSRS. The BDC Decision Maker makes a decision and the claim is processed. The customer is either placed in the Support Group, Work Related Activity Group or Disallowed. A copy of the WFHRA is sent to the customer and JCP PA or the Provider-Led PA as advised in the referral from the BDC. Day 45 The customer receives a notification about benefit entitlement, an outcome letter for the WCA and a copy of the WFHRA. If the customer is still entitled to ESA the Jobcentre will contact them to arrange their initial Work Focussed interview. The Personal Adviser will consider deferring the WFI if appropriate. Day 47 The customer receives confirmation of his Work Focussed Interview.
ESA Customer Journey DAY 55 DAY 57 DAY 92  BENEFIT ENTITLEMENT The customer enters the main phase of Employment and Support Allowance and is paid at either the Support Group or the Work Related rate. WORK CAPABILITY ASSESSMENT WORK-FOCUSED SUPPORT The customer receives a phone call reminder from the Jobcentre to attend Work Focused Interview. The customer attends and participates in a Work Focused Interview with a Personal Adviser at the Jobcentre. Customers in the Work Related Group start to receive Pathways support to return to work. Customers in the Support Group can access these services on a voluntary basis. Presenter's Notes Day 55 The customer receives a call from the Jobcentre reminding them of their interview. If the customer cannot attend the Personal Adviser considers deferral / re-books the appointment. Day 57 The customer attends for their initial WFI. This covers looking at assisting the customer in the WCA process if they are having any difficulties, looking at their previous work / skills experience and considering barriers they may have. At the end an action plan is developed and copied to the customer. If in a Provider Led Pathways District the customer's details will be referred to the Provider. Day 92 The customer enters the main phase and the Work Related Activity Component or Support Component is paid.
22 Customers' Rights and Responsibilities
Ensure personal details are accurate at first contact and correctly answer three security questions to confirm own identity. Agree the next steps and responsibilities as described by the Contact Centre in the 'wrap-up' to the telephone call. Ensure Customer Statement is correct, notifying changes to the Benefit Delivery Centre. Provide appropriate evidence to support their claim to benefit within one calendar month. Return form ESA50 to Medical Services within agreed time limit. Attend Work Capability Assessment where appropriate. Attend and participate in 1st and subsequent Work Focused Interviews where appropriate. Ensure all further changes of circumstances are notified to the Benefit Delivery Centre/ Jobcentre or Provider as they occur. The customer will have to answer 3 out of 5 security questions before the CCA will proceed with the claim. Further work is currently underway to map out the process should a customer fail to answer these questions correctly. Wrap up call is to: Advise the customer of the need to attend work focused interviews and to get their agreement in principle to do this. To advise them of the next steps and that once they receive their customer statement they will only be required to notify us if the details are incorrect or they need to provide further evidence. The customer will not have to sign the statement as their call to the Contact Centre will be recorded. Where a vulnerable customer visits a jobcentre and a new claim is taken face to face, and CAM is available, the claim will be input directly onto the system. If CAM is not in the Jobcentre concerned then a clerical claim form will be used which they will be required to sign to ratify their claim. Form ESA50 is the self assessment of a customer's ability to do certain tasks. E.g. How far can they walk before discomfort, how much can they lift etc. It is issued by ATOS, completed by the customer and returned to ATOS (they have 42 days to do this). If they do not return the form, a Decision Maker in the BDC will issue a disallowance with the exception of those customers with mental health issues.
23 Sanction and Appeal Rights
Behaviour Sanction Questionnaire not received (without an acceptable good cause). Customer does not attend WCA Assessment (without an acceptable good cause) Customer does not have limited capability for work. Customer fails to attend Work Focused Interview (without an acceptable good cause). Customer fails to attend Work Focused Health Related Assessment (without an acceptable good cause). Benefit withdrawn – customer has right of appeal. Sanction of ESA – 50% of personal allowance rate implemented. Customer has right of appeal against sanction. Form ESA50 is the self assessment of a customer's ability to do certain tasks. E.g. How far can they walk before discomfort, how much can they lift etc. It is issued by ATOS, completed by the customer and returned to ATOS (they have 42 days to do this). If they do not return the form, a Decision Maker in the BDC will issue a disallowance with the exception of those customers with mental health issues. If a customer does not attend a WCA, a form BF223, will be issued by ATOS to the customer to establish the reasons for non-attendance. If they cannot provide good cause the BDC will issue a disallowance to the customer. If a customer fails to attend a WFI and good cause is not accepted, a sanction at 50% of the work related activity component will be applied for 4 weeks then 100% until the customer complies. Presenter' However, it should be noted that there are various steps which will be taken before the sanction is applied, particularly for customers with mental health / learning difficulties problems. Prior to any sanction being applied the customer will be visited to ensure they understand the impact of their non-compliance and to try and move the customer back into the process. The sanction cannot be applied within the assessment phase. Therefore if a customer does not attend the first WFI which should take place at week 9, then the sanction will not be applied until the work capability component is in payment at week 13. A similar process is applied to the WFHRA.
24 Any Questions ? Employment and Support Allowance The Customer Journey
External | Employment and Support Allowance November 2007 Employment and Support Allowance The Customer Journey Any Questions ? "Work for those who can; improved support for those who can't"
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Confronting the Challenges: A Partnership Approach Peter Shields and Kieran Molloy Co-chairs of Supported Employment Solutions (SES)
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Crisis Conference 2011 Crisis Conference 2011 Session 2: Supporting clients through the Work Capability Assessment.
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How do animals enrich children's learning through stories?
Why Use Animals in Children's Stories?
Once upon a time animals and children's books didn't always start with Disney! It's been shown that, historically, children's books used animals as a way of tapping into familiarity; children would use animals they already knew of to learn to count, read and understand the world around them. One of the earliest known children's books, "Comenius's Orbis sensualium pictus", seems to have been used to teach children the alphabet using animals. As the printing press grew, so did the demand for books and the thirst for books for children. Publishers would try to find new things for people to buy for their children, which were often a reworking of old stories accompanied by woodcut images of dogs, sheep and horses, but things did become a little more sophisticated by the early nineteenth century. During this time, zoos and museums were becoming more popular, allowing for more exotic animals to be drawn for, and identified by, children. Some of these stories were used to teach children about the various animals around them, but some had moral tales, and taught children about the correct treatment of animals. Since a child is normally quite young when these stories are being read, the cognitive development in the brain hasn't quite refined the "group and sort" part of the brain. As it develops, and as they read, children learn to group animals and humans together, which means they see animals and humans as they would humans (anthropomorphised), albeit with feathers or fur!
Sarah Trimmer, an author who helped with the education of royalty, wrote a book called "Fabulous Histories", in which a family of robins and human family taught children about kindness and social duty. The family of robins showed how to be kind to one another, and offered a model which the children could follow in order to have a happy life with family and friends. One of the best known children's books about animals wasn't written for children; "Black Beauty" was actually written in order to educate people about the right way to treat horses. It could be said that the success of Black Beauty, which has sold millions of copies, shows how enduring books about animals are, especially for children. Children have an amazing ability to separate emotions and context better with animal models than with human ones. In order to capitalise on this, you'll notice authors often show animals standing up for one another, helping their family and teaching morals. This is very evident in the Happydesigner illustrated book, "Percy the Pipistrelle Bat", where children are taught about bat conservation through Percy, who is looking for somewhere to roost but is finding that many of his usual haunts are being taken away.
It's been found that children do relate more to an animal, rather than other children, when reading a story. Using animals to teach children about the world so successfully shows an affinity between young children and animals that seems to work incredibly well. This could come from the fact children often have stuffed animals as "friends" from an early age, which allows them to see the animal as a being they can empathise with, and therefore learn from. In the Happydesigner illustrated story, "Go To Sleep", children learn through the sheep characters about family relationships, counting and the importance of a night of rest. Because the animals aren't threatening or scary, children know to trust the character; they will also most likely be aware of the story of counting sheep before bed to get sleepy. In terms of emotions, when stories deal with emotions that children cannot yet comprehend, or recognise properly, an animal noise may actually help the child to understand which emotion is being dealt with; for example, a growl or a purr can show something that children will understand but perhaps not have the ability to articulate yet.
Anyone who has been read a Beatrix Potter book, or Wind in the Willows, as a child, will recognise how important seeing emotions and stories through an animal's eyes are. If there is something scary, then a child will be removed enough from the character to be able to deal with that fear and possibly even face up to it. "Sadie the Spider" is a great example of an animal that is just trying to show everyone else (and, importantly, other children in the story) that she isn't scary and spiders can be trusted.
As touched on in the previous paragraph, children do still see a distance between them and the animal, as they aren't of the same species. This is helpful when touching on difficult subjects, such as bullying, death or abuse. Having an animal they trust and recognise helping them through something can be a great way to approach tricky subjects. Situations such as the death of a pet can be a very tough one, as everyone will be grieving, so books like "Darcey Doggy" are a great way to help children cope with sad situations. Our own "Gillie Can" series features lots of ways children can learn to live everyday life, such as sharing, counting, baking and making. The animal friends are harmless, but still human enough to be identifiable.
For lifelong lessons or tough subjects, an animal can be a great way of telling that story, or passing the message on. Just think of all the books you read as a child that stayed with you and featured animals. A child's development can be enriched with the magic of an animal story, and they're also great fun! Puppies, horses, cows, sheep; there are so many "cute" animals that can be used to tell a story that may otherwise struggle to capture the child's imagination. For more great animal stories, check out our gallery page and see what you can learn!