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Cahill Debate
I know I'm probably going to cause a stir here, but I think Cahill should be dropped for the next match. For me he hasn't offered anything since Yakubu went away.
My idea would be to deploy Fernandes in the free role, behind Vaughan and Johnson. With Fernandes in recent games, he's been covering Carsley way too much and by time he gets to attack the lad is knackered...any thoughts?
Andrew Duncan, Merseyside Posted 05/02/2008 at 11:29:40
Graham Nolan
For me, Cahill is a great goalscoring midfielder. He works hard and puts himself about. The thing I find about Cahill is that if he does not get on the scoresheet, he offers the team very little else, other than hard work which should be a pre-requisite. I think a in recent times he has been offering us less & less and his level of performance has dipped somewhat. Perhaps a spell on the sidelines might be good for him, he can recharge his batteries and could be good making an impact from the bench.
I do not think, however, that we should use Fernandes that high up the pitch. His strength is sitting deep and getting attacks started. Why not go 4-4-2 with AJ & the Yak up front, or push Osman further up the pitch in support of a lone front man?
Simon Gemine
I agree, sorely because of the travelling involved with Australia. I would certainly have him on the bench though, just in case. I would play a 4-4-2, with Vaughan partnering AJ or Yak up front (If Yak is back).
Ian McDowell
I would always go with Cahill in the strarting 11 at the momment. The team has been short of goals and thats what Tim gives us. I would also bring the Yak back this weekend and play him up front with AJ, and go 4-4-2.
Connor Rohrer
Fernandes would look lost in the "Cahill role". I watched him play there for Valencia in the Champions League game and he was awful. He's a central midfielder and should be played in his proffered position where he is effective.
If anyone's going to play the Cahill role behind the striker then its Osman or Pienaar. Naturally both of there favored positions would be behind the front one or two. They'd both offer something different to Cahill in that role. They wouldn't put themselves about as much and they wouldn't play as a target man but they would offer more quality on the ball and excellent awareness.
I disagree with anyone who says Cahill is useless in a four man midfield. I've seen both Carsley and Neville do jobs in a four man midfield and Cahill is alot better footballer than both. He's not a Fernandes or an Arteta but he is a capable Footballer. He's not going to offer defense splitting balls but he's physical, good in the air, a decent tackler, has excellent stamina and can chip in with the odd goal hear and there like he showed in the 05/06 season. People forget that for the Majority of that season we played 4-4-2 and Cahill scored 8 goals which is a decent number. I'd think it would be a different story if Cahill played alongside Fernandes. Someone who take take most of the ball duties and leave Cahill to play his box to box role. Its always worth a try.
His recent slump in form has got alot to do with Johnson. They just don't play well together. When Johnson plays as the loan striker he likes to run behind alot which doesn't give Cahill a chance to make his runs as he's always behind him. With Yakubu its a different matter. Yak holds it up which gives Cahill time to make his runs from deep. When he plays with Johnson he more of less plays as an out and out striker which doesn't suit him but when he plays with with Yakubu he does in fact play as an attacking midfielder.
Cahill has proven his worth to the team and when everyone is back I expect him to get back to his best. The 4-5-1 formation is also the best way to go until we find a defensive midfielder with legs and a bit of presence.
I doubt he'll play on Saturday anyway. I expect it to be Fernandes and Carsley in midfield with Yakubu and Johnson leading the line.
A few people here have hit the nail on the head, Cahill can't offer as much when Johnson plays up front on his own. I do think he's going to find himself on the bench because Johnson's been doing enough to partner Yak in a 4-4-2 formation.
Technically Cahill isn't the strongest, thats no secret so when he's competing for a midfield place against the likes of Arteta, Pienaar, Osma and Fernandes he's gunna struggle. He 's a great addition to the team don't get me wrong, but I think a few weeks on the side will do him the world of good.
Ian Short
Cahill's form has dipped since the Yak left but with the Yak back, Cahill may return to his best and he remains in the long term first choice front pairing. Having said that, with Cahill in Oz this week, Johnson playing well and us being at home to Reading, a 4-4-2 with Andy and the Yak would be the way to go for this weekend.
Manny is a defensive/holding midfielder, why dont people see that. Its not like its a revelation, thats what he was last time round, thats what he was for benfica & thats where he has played for us??? Why would play a holding midfielder as a 2nd striker or (as the dutch say) a no.10 role???
Mick Simo
If the manager dosen't play 4-4-2 against Reading he deserves to be sacked, no seriously we have got to play 4-4-2 at home against these teams. Cahill to me cant play effective in a four man midfield, but in 5 man midfield, and a stiker who can hold the ball up he is effective. I sometimes think Cahill is a frustrated out and out striker. Fernandes is a central midfield player, who will hold the space in midfield when his central midfield partner goes forward, he wont play the Carsley role in a five man midfield, when we depoly this set up, Fernandes will get forward in support of the strikers, but will also drop back to help out. Hes a class act and will get forward at times in the box. Central holding midfielder or attacking midfielder, I think he can do both.
Steve Ferns
I agree that Cahill seems to offer a lot less when Johnson is upfront. I think that if Yakubu comes straight back in, in a 4-5-1 then we would see Cahill excel once more. You are a fickle lot. Cahill is a key reason behind a surge to 4th, so what he hasn't scored for a few games, he's already scored more than i think we'll get from Johnson all season.
4-5-1 is our best formation, it suits our midfield, with Carsley able to sit deeper, the full backs able to get further forward, Cahill able to bomb on, and for Arteta, Osman and Fernandes to play with far less regementation. When we've supposedly played this defensive formation, we have been far more attacking than in a 4-4-2.
If Johnson has to play, then he should play with either Anichebe or Vaughan as he needs support to help him hold the ball up. Johnson simply cannot do this and requires assistance, which is why we struggle for goals with him leading the line in a 4-5-1.
10 Posted 05/02/2008 at 18:32:50
John Lloyd, I know what you are saying about Fernandes, but do you not recall him playing on the wing for us last season (against Watford at least)? He also did this against Chelsea in the Semi at Goodison.
Fernandes is not a holding a midfielder, but he could be in time. He goes missing at times and does not yet have the fitness levels required. He also lacks Carsley's discipline and wants to go forward too much to play there. Therefore, Fernandes is better, and has the skills to play as a proper old fashioned centre midfielder. He can get back and get forward and can get on the ball and dictate play. He's lacking a little fitness and experience / familiarity with the premier league. The signs are good with him and I think he can be world class if he continues to develope.
Ricardo Humphries
Andrew, his form hasn't been geat off late, but I'll rather go for a out of form Cahill than no Cahill! He'll bounce back
Tony McCann
I think we are getting a bit to involved in tactics here, if we are going to talk tactics, you have got to take in account the opposition, their tactics, their players and threats. 4-4-2 or 4-5-1, in a 4-4-2 I would coach the midfield to support both defence and attack, one of the midfielders to get forward as much as possiable and the other to play a holding role to protect the defence, wide players have got to get forward but also protect the full backs. 4-4-1-1 to me can be successful if you deploy the right player in the hole, think of Alessandro Del Piero behind David Trézéguet. I agree 4-4-1-1 is our best formation, but why not play James Vaugn in the hole, you dont need to be a midfield player to play this, just a solid midfield behind you. Another formation you can play to accommodate two or more strikers is the Christmas tree formation, 4-3-2-1, two Strikers in the hole and one ahead, this would suite Cahill and the likes of Vaugn, who are energetic enough to chase back in midfield, not for me though, remember Hoddle playing this, though Venebles did have a bit of success with it.
John, Fernandes isn't a defensive midfielder and never will be in England. I've watched him for Benfica, Everton, Portsmouth, Valencia and the Portugal Under 21s and he never played the "holding role". I remember once for Portugal v Holland he played a deeper role but it was hardly defensive.
He was compared to Makelele as a youth but anyone watching the Chelsea v Everton semi final would have seen how different they where. I remember Gravesen was called a defensive midfielder when he came to England and we can see perfectly that he is not at all and never was.
He's a bit of both if you ask me. More attacking than defensive but very capable of tackling and breaking up play. Why waste him in a disciplined role? One of our few players capable of spotting a through ball and capable of brilliance as he showed against Spurs in the final third.
Conor I think you might be getting a bit confused with what a defensive / holding midfielder is in Moyes preferd formation 4-5-1. A holding midfielder is positioned in front of the back four. This provides freedom for the rest of the team to move forward and attack as the defense will be "protected" by the holding midfielder. This formation is also considerd a defensive set up to grind out 0-0 or protect a 1-0 This is Carsleys position. Right I will explain where Manny played for Pourtugal and Benfica, he played in a 4-2-3-1 which is simalar to 4-5-1 but you have a offensive midfielder and two defensive midfielders, with two wide players pushing forward. To understand it think of Carrick and scholes as playmakers in a defensive midfield playing behind Giggs playing behind the striker, this was the position Manure played in the champions league in 2006. So Manny would play in the Carrick or Scholes position. For me Fernandes, depending on formation would be a central midfielder, but holding, rather than making runs forward, especially in a four man midfield.
"John, Fernandes isn?t a defensive midfielder and never will be in England."
Tony McCann, I understand the difference which is why I said Fernandes will never be a defensive midfielder in "England". As you said the European version of a defensive midfielder is different from ours. Carsley is a typical British defensive midfielder whereas someone like Gilberto at Arsenal or Makelele at Chelsea would be your typical European/overseas defensive midfielder.
This is why I mentioned Gravesen. He was known as a defensive/holding midfielder in Germany and Denmark because he played a deeper role and used his passing range to dictate attacks. But in England we can just see that he would never be able to play that role.
Fernandes for me is an out and out central midfielder who likes to get on the ball. A deep lying play maker maybe but judging by his first spell hear he didn't play as deep as he is playing now. There is a difference between someone like Alonso and Fernandes. Alonso has discipline and plays in more or less a box whereas Fernandes although not out and out attacking does get forward and isn't used in a disciplined role.
Connor there is an argument that Moyes preferd formation is actually not a 4-5-1, but a modified 4-4-1-1, this being the case, you are right, because it means you only have four midfield players, for example Arteta right mid, Carsley and Fernandes middle and Pienar left mid, with Cahill playing in an advanced position in the hole behind the Yak, this being the case Manny as got to get forward more, because Carsley will need to play the holding role just in front of the back four, but as much as I like Carsley, he realy should be dictating the pace of the game with passes, thats what Gilberto and Makalee both do, he just hasent got that in his locker.
Tommy Banks
Just a question to either Tony or Connor, If Moyes plays Arteta and Fernandes both as central midfield players in a 4-4-2, who would be the holding player and who would be the playmaker. 4-4-2 is all about balance through the middle. it is normal for one of the central midfielders to be a holding player to protect the back 4, allowing the other midfielder to be more of a playmaker, seeing both can be creative, but I see Arteta more of the playmaker and Fernandes the holding player. See what you think.
Forget about formations, Moyes will tell his players the way he wants them to play, when you have the ball, Cahill supports the main striker in the box, Fernandes or whoever will push forward and Carsley will hold the midfield. When we loose the ball Cahill will support the rest of the midfield and Carsley will break up any attacks, and should pass to a player in an advanced position of him, but sometimes he will hoof it. See its easy, no fucking 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 needed.
David Nicholls
I'd play Cahill behind the Yak as they were awesome before the ACN. Cahill has a great goalscoring record as a midfeilder but when he doesn't score for a while people assume he's not playing well but he offers much more than goals. Against Wigan for example, his work-rate and defending were 1st class.
I agree with Connor about Manny, he shouldn't play 'in the hole' he's a central midfielder and a cracking one at that. He's not ready for a holding role either and wont be for a good few years although, I personally feel he could mature and grow into that role one day.
david pilling
Basically, what i think we all surely agree on is that Cahill isn't as effective in a 4-4-2, and that we are hopeless with Aj up front in a 4-5-1.
Which leaves us with 2 options.
1. Yak up front on his own, with cahill playing the supporting role
2. We play 4-4-2 with Yak and AJ and Cahill is on the bench.
Personally i think we cannot we play 4-4-2 with cahill but i'm sure many will disagree.
We need Cars in the midfield, so assuming its Arteta and Piennar out wide that leaves Manny or Tim. Hmmmm, interesting
Dick Fearon
If there is a problem when Cahill parners AJ the answer is simple.
Drop the championship standard player. One guess who that will be.
If Everton wants to kiss goodbye to any current or future Australians just keep on their backs about them representing their country.
calm down, Dick.
I dont think anybody here is having a go at Tim for being Australian. Who cares where a guy is from as long he's an Evertonian thats fine by me. Stop being so sensitive just coz your from Oz
Tommy Banks, probably Fernandes in the holding role and Arteta in the more attacking role. Only because Fernandes has more defensive qualities. He's more physical than Mikky and stronger in the tackle.
I think it would be a great idea to play them both in the middle in Europe. We'd be able to control games, keep the ball and not worry so much on the defensive aspects of the game. The aim of the game in European football is to keep the ball so playing two natural out and out ball players in the middle of the park would help us do this. Maybe not away from home but at Goodsion I'd definatly give it a go but I doubt Moyes will as he likes Arteta on the wing.
In premiership games though its different. Carsley is needed to give us a bit of steel aswell as some physicality in the middle of the park.
David Barks
Please, let us not turn Cahill into the new boo boy at Goodison. He has went a couple of games without a goal but is still a threat. Fernandes should not be played in Cahill's role because that is not what he is. Fernandes is a Defensive central midfielder. He's not a holding midfielder like Carsley, but in a 4 man midfield can play in the middle instead of Carsley. Cahill probably won't be in the team this week so hopefully Yakubu and AJ will get to partner each other and see how they do with Arteta, Fernandes, and hopefully Osman fit. It's just too bad Pienaar got injured because I would have loved to have seen how our strikers played with Arteta, Fernandes and Pienaar. But soon they will all be healthy and ready to go. If we can stay healthy we could have a very successful run to end the season. And I for one think anything is possible in the UEFA Cup. Why not us?
Jason Lam
Conner, you read my mind.
I would add that one other reason why Manny can play further back in the middle (or Moyes place him there) is his superb long range passing to compensate. Hit them with AJ on the break. And we have another body at the back for insurance.
For Premiership games played at 140mph, no-frills Cars in the middle to mop up definately.
I think Dick is a fair point as there are a bunch of goemless wankers on here who keep questioning Cahillls passion and that he is saving himself for Australian games. Not too mention the fact the others who claim he should stay here as its only a meaningless World Cup Qualifier. It really pisses me that because he is Australian a lot seem to think that they are an inferior team or something. All I remember is the last time there was a game between the over hyped England and Australia the latter won by 3 goals to 1. Maybe Cahill is in a bit of a quiet patch at the moment but thats only because we expect him to score all the time. He still does a lot of other things in games. Arteta has played a quite badly in some games and he never gets called into question.
Cliff Zampost
EFC simply dont have the depth and cannot afford to drop a player like cahill, who can turn a game from nothing into something, he's a match winner, he's to dangerous around goals to leave on the pine. Give the guy a break, you cant expect him to score every week. He will bounce back and proove all you doubters wrong.
Laurie Cooper
Dick Fearon, as a staunch supporter of Australian football and lifelong Evertonian, I can tell you that I agree with the concerns expressed by Andrew Duncan.
In my view, we should forget the debate about which is Cahill?s preferred or best position; equally, we should forget about debating his form at the moment. We should focus on his commitment to Everton. Most young Australian players I know and deal with on a daily basis would give their eye teeth to represent a Club like Everton. Not so Mr Cahill.
What concerns me about Cahill, and has for a long while, is his propensity for putting Everton a distant second to his Australian duties, even when the Australian games are only friendlies. And, whilst the game against Qatar is a full international, there are enough players of substance locally who could fill his role for this match without threatening his long term security in the team. He knows this and so do the Football Federation of Australia.
This season, he has spent time on the injury list and has been suspended and, in my view, should be putting his Everton responsibilities at the forefront at the moment as he owes the Club and Everton supporters some return for their loyalty, support and patience. Flying 12,000 miles, playing on the Wednesday night and then flying back to the UK on Thursday evening (AST) isn?t going to help his performances in either the Australian or Reading matches.
Ajay Gopal
I am surprised that nobody has mentioned about using Tim as a "super-sub". Kill 2 birds with 1 stone if you ask me. Play Yak & AJ or Yak & Vaugny to start with , with Cahill on the bench. After AJ/Vaugny have run the defense ragged, bring in Timmy at about the 60 ~ 70 minute mark. He would be deadly in these situations. And, if memory serves me right, that is how Australia used him very effectively in the World Cup and Asia Cup. He smashed a fair number of goals, coming on as a sub.
Cameron Hamilton
Laurie, I have seen nothing with Cahill no suggest he is not both a) a proud Evertonian and b) a proud Australian. The claims you are making are totally without basis.
By the way, Cahill on the scoresheet in the first half - Australia leading 3-0... Perhaps this is a chance for him to get some goal scoring confidence back.
Socceroos game ended 3-0. Cahill came off in 65th minute. He had a pretty gud game. and scored.
I knew Cahill would proove all you doubters all wrong AGAIN! Played a great game tonight, scored a great goal tonight, ran hard all night and in respect to his club committments and moyes was subbed after 65 minutes. What more can you ask for from the man. OH And i forgot was named man of the match, BOG.
Peter Keating
In what position did Cahill pay for the Socceroos? Interested to know if it is similar to where he is playing now or where he originally played for us in centre midfield
Robert Chan
more information on the game http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football
For everyones info, Tim played as the attacking midfielder in a diamond midfield in a 4-4-2. From all reports did very well too.
Anj Stamos
re: Peter Keating post. Cahill played just behind the front 2 similar as with everton. B.O.G performance and he could?ve ended up with 3-4 goals as well. Defended well, worked hard esp 1st half, your typical Cahill outstanding display. Didnt look too jetlagged to me. Bring on Reading ! COYB
Steve Nikolovski
Cahill is a champ.
We are 4th (and would be much better off if not for a bad decision)
Times are good.......
Get over it!
Just in response to Stevie & Connor.
I dont think Manny played on the wing against chelsea, he was probably our most central player so I have to disagree, also the watford game away last year, being honest I cant remember, but if you look at the team from that day then I'm sure he wasnt on the wing/side in that game either!!
You can dress it up all you want but Manny is a holding midfielder in a yaya toure, Makalele, Diarra type of way. he will get involved with play & orchestrate play from a deeper position that the rest of midfield. I dont think you can look at his other clubs & where they played him for a number of reasons....
Benfica - played across the midfield (mostly central) due to youth & just breaking through
Pompey - never got fair crack & stated he was out of posistion more than not
Valencia - same as above really, hence why he is back here now.
I know (as always) its just opinions & peoples interpretations of a particular position. So if we re-christen it a depper role (rather than holding/defensive) than that suits him better. He is someone who will start attacks, keep possesion, dictate play etc etc. He could be our most important player if we manage to keep him.
So lets watch & enjoy him.
To add my two penth worth to Cahill, no-one must be above dropping including Tim. And if we were ever going to do it then now is the time, Australia commitments coming up, lack of goals & I have to agree with some other posts on here. he has looked jaded in recent weeks.
Maybe exploding back into the team the way he did is taking a toll now. I dont know, I dont see him train everyday etc but I honestly believe that against reading that Vaughn (not victor) should start alongside AJ, until Yak is back & ready to go!!!
Andrew, I'm amazed that you didn't mention the 'Yak' in your foward line! The man is the best goal scorer at the club. Let's be honest, AJ is only going to get about 10 a season.
I have to agree that Cahill's form has been poor to say the least, but to drop him would be just stupid in my opinion. I'd like us to have the option of having someone of Cahill's ability available to come in so we can say 'Cahill, it's not good enough you can do better, you're dropped', but for me, there is no one to do that. We can't drop him, he's too important, even when he's not at his best. He was on fire when he first came back from injury. It would have been impossible for him to keep up that form. Most pro's say that after injury you come back strong (playing on adrenaline for a while), but then you have a dip in form where you kind of hit a wall. You get through that and then the good times return. I think Cahill will be ok. He has looked tired recently and maybe a week on the sidelines would be good for him, but not for the team. I'd rather be watching Everton with Timmy in the starting 11 whatever his form!
Paul OHanlon
John Lloyd, many did play wide against Watford last season and he also finished on the left against Chelsea in the 2nd leg.
But I agree totally with you that he's a central midfielder and should be kept there. The more he plays I think the more we'll see him pulling the strings. I'd also like to see him take more free kicks after the one against Blackburn. Arteta's set pieces have been poor all season.
Regarding Cahill, a break would do him good this weekend. Leave him on the bench just in case and start with AJ and Yak up top. He's been blowing bubbles lately at the end of games and I think tiredness is the only reason we've not see the best of him, nothing more sinister.
I stand corrected regarding the Watford one,as i said I couldnt remember. The chelsea game he deffo started (& played most of game) central. I remember from the night but I've yet too watch it back on TV (too painful) and being honest the aussie whites & chang had deffo kicked in by then so you may be right.
Just in response to Ian, I would also pick my 11 including Tim most of the time & your right a little break this week might see him come back refreshed, but on his previous form. He's not getting into positions he normally does, he is not as sharp as usual & if he is playing 2nd striker then he needs to be more of a threat.
Its also only fair to Vaughan, cos you cant say to the lads on bench "It doesnt matter what you do cos th lads in front of you will always play, even off form" they have to have an incentive. Just hope whoever DM picks that we do reading by more than 2 & get the confidence going again.
John Lloyd, There is a difference between Lassana Diarra and Manuel Fernandes. Fernandes is a central midfielder whereas Diarra is a defensive midfielder.
Diarra naturally plays deep and hardly moves away from the back four. Fernandes drops deep to start attacks because he is our only player capable of doing this. If Carsley could take pressure of the back four and pick a pass then Fernandes I suspect would play higher up the pitch. The problem is Carsley isn't capable of this and doesn't make himself available so Fernandes has to do it.
Lots of players drop deep and start attacks but it doesn't necessarily make them defensive players. Scholes does it for United, Fabregas does it for Arsenal and Gerrard does it for Liverpool and none of those players are classed as defensive midfielders. They just have the bollocks and the talent to look for the ball when under pressure which all good midfielders should do.
Fernandes for me is a central midfielder who has more attacking attributes than defensive. He may have been billed as a defensive midfielder in Portugal in his youth but he has far to much ability and lacks the discipline to ever play like Makelele. Makelele's game is more or less played in a box in front of the back four, he wins the ball and passes it five yards to the more creative player. Ive yet to see Fernandes do this in his Everton career. Even in the Chelsea match which is the deepest I've ever seen him play he still got forward and burst past the half way line on a number of occasions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VptyYcpLE54
I think we'll all agree that his best game for the club so far is the Arsenal game last season. Judging by these clips he isn't a defensive midfielder and plays his best stuff when he is playing in front of Carsley as he does for the majority of the game. He shows both defensive and attacking qualities but his positional play is not defensive.
Who knows though. Maybe I'm wrong or maybe I'm right. Just an opinion.
Ian Ankers
John lloyd wrote:
Its also only fair to Vaughan, cos you cant say to the lads on bench "It doesnt matter what you do cos the lads in front of you will always play, even off form" they have to have an incentive. Just hope whoever DM picks that we do reading by more than 2 & get the confidence going again.
John, I agree with all of what you are saying, but the fact remains for me that I would at this current time pick Cahill (even on present form) above vaughan. Don't get me wrong, I really like Vaughan, but just feel Cahill cannot be left out. I feel we would be weakend by leaving him out, whoever we put in instead. Just my opinion! I could be wrong, maybe putting vaughan in and leaving Cahill out would work, but I have my doubts if that would be a plus, even for one week!
Conor you are spot on, it is an opinion but I dont think that you can put Manny in same category as Scholes an that because he does sit deeper than all them & its also wrong to class Diarra as just a defensive midfielder, if you watched the portsmouth game v Chelsea (full game) you would see my point. His base is deeper but he gets involved with play a whole lot but can break attacks up from there. This is what I see Manny doing for us as he did for U-21s last night, was MOM by all accounts in a Pirlo role anchored to the centre of midfield, deeper than other midfielders. that is why I suggested re-think on the name/classification of the role I was trying to describe. i think perfect example is Pirlo of Milan.
I do agree he is a central midfielder, but also Diarra is......they just occupy different areas to the lkes of Gerrard, Cahill and Scholes (when Keane was alongside him).
I dont think this one is gonna get settled cos we have two different(similar) but different opinions. When I watch Manny he gets involved in play but his position I still say he is a deep holding midfielder rather than a box to box midfielder as you described


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-------------------------------- Recommended Background -------------------------------- This course is designed for people interested in the future of education and the "learning society," including people who may wish to join education as a profession, practicing teachers interested in exploring future directions for a vocation that is currently undergoing transformation, and community and workplace leaders who regard their mission to be in part "educative." -------------------------------- Related Resources -------------------------------- Online resources are available here: https://newlearningonline.com -------------------------------- Join our Online Communities! -------------------------------- CGScholar (Create an account and join the New Learning community) https://cgscholar.com/community/community_profiles/new-learning/community_updates Facebook https://www.facebook.com/newlearningonline Twitter https://twitter.com/neolearning -------------------------------- Take this Course for Credit at the University of Illinois -------------------------------- This course has the same content and anticipates the same level of contribution by students in the Assessment for Learning course offered to graduate certificate, masters, and doctoral level students in the Learning Design and Leadership Program in the College of Education at the University of Illinois. Of course, in the nature of MOOCs many people will just want to view the videos and casually join some of the discussions. Some people say that these limited kinds of participation offer evidence that MOOCs suffer from low retention rates. Far from it – we say that any level of engagement is good engagement. On the other hand, if you would like to take this course for credit at the University of Illinois, you will find more information about our program here: https://ldlprogram.web.illinois.edu/overview/ And you can apply here: https://education.illinois.edu/epol/programs-degrees/ldl -------------------------------- The Learning Design and Leadership Series of MOOCs -------------------------------- This course is one of a series of eight MOOCs created by Bill Cope and Mary Kalantzis for the Learning Design and Leadership program at the University of Illinois. If you find this MOOC helpful, please join us in others! e-Learning Ecologies: Innovative Approaches to Teaching and Learning for the Digital Age https://www.coursera.org/learn/elearning New Learning: Principles and Patterns of Pedagogy https://www.coursera.org/learn/newlearning Assessment for Learning https://www.coursera.org/learn/assessmentforlearning Learning, Knowledge, and Human Development https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-knowledge-human-development Ubiquitous Learning and Instructional Technologies https://www.coursera.org/learn/ubiquitouslearning Negotiating Learner Differences: Towards Productive Diversity in Learning https://www.coursera.org/learn/learnerdifferences Literacy Teaching and Learning: Aims, Approaches and Pedagogies https://www.coursera.org/learn/literacy-teaching-learning Multimodal Literacies: Communication and Learning in the Era of Digital Media https://www.coursera.org/learn/multimodal-literacies
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This course sets out to provide an introduction to educational psychology. It includes a variety of voices and perspectives from the College of Education at the University of Illinois. Mary Kalantzis and Bill Cope offer a historical and conceptual overview of the field, classified broadly under the terms "behaviorism," "brain developmentalism," and "social cognitivism." This is followed by four quite different practical examples of educational psychology at work. Dorothy Espelage discusses her work on the social and emotional conditions of learning in her research into bullying at school. Denice Hood gives an example of the application of psychology to educational counseling. George Reese speaks about "productive struggle" in learning. And finally, Joe Robinson-Cimpian discusses the application of quantitative psychology to analyze test results for the purposes of school and curricular placement.
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The Effects of Policy Change on the Test Results and Graduation Rates7m
Differences between States and Variation within States: Raising Questions that Require Qualitative Analysis9m
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Getting to the Right Relationship Between Doctors and Drug Companies
There is a way to cultivate, not demonize, collaboration between physicians and pharma.
David A. Shaywitz
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The pharmaceutical industry is held in remarkably low esteem right now. It's seen as a bunch of nefarious pushers who pay off vulnerable doctors to prescribe their latest expensive, mediocre product. Physicians who work with pharma companies are considered especially suspect, routinely described as "cozy," "in bed with industry," and "on the take."
CEO of Kaiser Permanente Robert Pearl wrote last month in a Wall Street Journal commentary, "Patients will continue to be at risk for potential harm until physicians themselves stop participating in these relationships [with industry]." He added that Kaiser, a managed care consortium of almost 15,000 physicians and 9 million patients, prohibits physicians from "being paid to 'consult' with drug and device companies."
I think they have it backwards, though. Drug companies -- at least every one that I've worked for or consulted with -- would like to develop important new medicines that improve health and save lives. That's what gets every industry researcher I know up in the morning, and what keeps them going through the many highs and lows that characterize the scientific process.
While the biological foundation that enables most contemporary drug discovery was largely built in academic labs, moving from research publication to validated drug is long, difficult, expensive, and very tricky -- not least because many academic findings turn out not to be robust enough to support new drug development.
To advance even a solid idea requires, ideally, close communication between industry and outside experts: university researchers, who often developed the science and understand it the best; practicing clinicians, who can describe where the medical needs are the greatest, and what properties an ideal therapeutic would have; and patients, of course, who understand better than anyone else what they need, and where existing approaches may fall short.
We should strive to cultivate, not demonize, these sorts of interactions.
The signaling problem that's developed is especially unfortunate: we're taught to distrust the physicians and university researchers who consult the most with industry, yet it's often these experts who are the smartest scientists or the most experienced clinicians -- that's why companies seek them out. In essence, we're stigmatizing (and increasingly, seeking to exclude) experts who are arguably the most worthy of our admiration.
It's true that industry has seen its share of bad actors; so has academia; yet in both cases, we should be careful about generalizing from sensationalized examples to condemn everyone who works in pharma -- or in universities, for that matter.
It's also true that drug companies seek to turn profits, which many seem to regard as fundamentally incompatible with wanting to do good. But Whole Foods CEO and "Conscious Capitalism" champion John Mackey has it right when he explains , "Making high profits is the means to the end of fulfilling Whole Foods' core business mission. We want to improve the health and well-being of everyone on the planet though higher quality food and better nutrition, and we can't fulfill this mission unless we are highly profitable." I enjoy farm-raised salmon and oven-roasted kale as much as any Californian, but I'd like to think that the pursuit of new medicines represents at least as worthy an endeavor.
Looking ahead, many worry that increased focus on cost will further fray doctor/industry relationships, but I see a far more hopeful future.
Increasingly, everyone in health care -- providers as well as medical products companies -- will be asked to demonstrate the value of their goods and services, asked to prove that they are really making a difference.
Doctors who are paid based on quality metrics, or who are "accountable," and own some of the risk, will be highly motivated to think especially critically about their therapeutic choices, and are likely to discover many instances where a powerful new medicine turns out to provide the best, most economical option -- when total costs are considered.
Medical products companies will also be under tremendous pressure to deliver medicines capable of rigorously demonstrating value . To understand what would be worthy of use, drug companies will need to speak to clinicians; rather than stick their heads in the sand, Kaiser physicians should engage with medical product companies, participate in this dialog, and help increase the chances that they'll be able to prescribe better medicines to patients in the future. Participating experts also deserve to be compensated for their time, as Kaiser can both well appreciate and precisely calculate.
Emerging information technologies are likely to play increasingly important roles in both assessing and enhancing value . Not surprisingly, leading academic digital health initiatives -- including both the Center for Assessment Technology and Continuous Health (CATCH) at MGH and MIT, which I co-founded, and the recently announced Center for Digital Health Innovation (CDHI), at UCSF, both explicitly seek to cultivate partnerships with industry, in particular the tech powerhouses of Cambridge and Silicon Valley.
"Previously, faculty struggled to bring promising concepts to fruition," explained CDHI director Dr. Michael Blum. "Good ideas will no longer die on the vine."
That's ultimately the key issue here: interdependence. Like digital health, drug development is far too important, and far too difficult, for anyone to do by themselves. To have even a fighting chance, stakeholders -- pharma companies, university researchers, clinicians, and patients -- need to work together, and collaborate as if our future health depends upon it. It probably does.
David A. Shaywitz, MD, PhD, is a director of strategic and commercial planning at a biopharmaceutical company based in San Francisco, and the co-author of Tech Tonics: Can Passionate Entrepreneurs Heal Healthcare With Technology?


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Sam Smith Cancels Japan and Manila Dates Due to Vocal Cords Haemorrhage
Sam Smith has been forced to cancel a series of shows in Japan and Manila due to a haemorrhage on his vocal cords.
The singer and is heading to the US to see a specialist.
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Few days ago, Sam Smith had to cancel the second half of his Australian tour after doctors discovered bleeding.
Sam Smith is apparently "vocally exhausted" and has had to cancel the shows to avoid more serious damage.
Writing on Instagram, Sam Smith said: "Very upset about Japan and Manila dates.
"I've just left Australia and I'm on my way to the States to see a specialist to see what to do from there…"
Sam Smith's In The Lonely Hour tour is due to come to Europe, starting with Radio 1's Big Weekend in Norwich, the UK, from May 23rd. Those dates are still currently going ahead.
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Home > Threatened Trees > West Himalayan Yew
West Himalayan Yew
Taxus contorta
Family: Taxaceae
Natural Range: Afghanistan, China, Tibet, India, Nepal and Pakistan
Endangered (EN)
The West Himalayan Yew (Taxus contorta) has suffered a recent population decline of at least 50% over the whole of its range. In each different cultural context, people have found a variety of different uses for this tree; each contributing, however differently, to the overall decline of this species in the wild.
Its timber is frequently used for the construction of houses as well as for the making of furniture; it is even known to be employed for such specialised uses as grave coverings and beehives. In Pakistan, the wood is used often as fuel and the foliage as fodder for livestock. In Afghanistan, up to 50% of the forests where T. contorta occurs have been destroyed or heavily logged over the last 30 years.
The bark, leaves and twigs have a range of traditional medicinal uses but, like its close relative T. chinensis, it's also used for the commercial production of Taxol, a key anti-cancer drug. It is this particular use that is the main driver behind its sudden decline in India and Nepal; a decline of up to 90% nationally.
Photo credit: Dr Lianming Gao, Kunming Institute of Botany
Until relatively recently, there has been some confusion about the taxonomy of Yew trees in the Himalayas. For many years, T. wallichiana was thought to be the only Taxus species that inhabited the entire mountain range. More recently however, most of the Taxus populations occurring from central Nepal to northern Pakistan and Afghanistan have been attributed to T. fuana, which was first recognized in the mountains of Tibet. However, this species turned out to be synonymous with T. contorta, a much earlier name that has priority and therefore must be used.
If T. Contorta is to survive in the wild, it will need a well managed and sustainable response to the current (and completely unsustainable) levels of exploitation. Extraction methods that do not kill the species and the harvesting of cultivated rather than wild populations are essential conservation measures. Thankfully, plantations are gradually being established to encourage private/ community cultivation, and programmes are being developed to encourage its protection in the wild.
Thomas, P. 2011. Taxus contorta. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2011: e.T39147A10170545. http://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2011-2.RLTS.T39147A10170545.en.
P.Thomas,and Lianming Gao, 2013. Taxus contorta, from the website, Threatened Conifers of The World (http://threatenedconifers.rbge.org.uk/taxa/details/989).
Photo Credit: Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh
Taxus contorta populations have declined by at least 50% due to overexploitation associated with medicinal use.


Scroll to the bottom of this page to watch video of Reps. Lee and Meeks giving their full remarks.
Two of the most revered members of the U.S. House of Representatives called for Americans to "stay woke" on matters that will affect their financial wellbeing.
U.S. Rep. Barbara Lee addresses attendees.
U.S. Reps. Barbara Lee (CA-13th) and Gregory Meeks (NY-5th) gave keynote addresses at the 2017 Future of Wealth Summit that were both informative and inspiring.
Rep. Lee serves Oakland, an area a stone's throw away from Silicon Valley. She has long bemoaned the lack of racial diversity in the tech industry.
U.S. Rep. Lee has been in Congress since 1998.
"For many, many years, my constituents have been trying to break into the tech sector, not only the tech jobs, but the human resources positions, legal services, accounting… ," she said.
In 2015, Lee and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) launched Tech 2020, a plan to encourage the industry to embrace inclusion by, among other things, developing partnerships with historically black colleges and universities and setting diversity hiring benchmarks.
Noting that income and racial inequality are a double-edged sword for people of color, Lee predicted that the multi-billion dollar tech sector would exacerbate the wealth divide by its exclusion of black talent.
U.S. Rep. Barbara Lee of California.
"Here in America, there is no excuse that tech companies hire 2 to 4 percent African Americans. That's outrageous, a shame, and a disgrace," she said.
Rep. Meeks, a key member of the Committee on Financial Services, spent part of his remarks criticizing the traditional banking system for inadequately servicing communities like the one he represents: Jamaica, Queens.
Rep. Meeks serves the Jamaica area in Queens.
The financial crisis of 2007-2008 made matters even worse, Meeks said, because many of the 5,000 banks that shuttered were in low-income communities already devoid of legitimate financial institutions.
Meeks said FinTech, which was the subject of a panel discussion at the Summit, has the capacity to be the solution to providing low-income communities with more and better services. But he is cautiously optimistic, noting that some of the computer data used by FinTech can lead to unintentional biases toward people of color; Meeks cited a recent ProPublica report that showed black drivers paid more for insurance than whites.
"The misuse of algorithms and big data worries me," he said.
Meeks said all avenues that can balance the economic playing field deserve support.
"The second phase of the Civil Rights Movement is wealth building. Without wealth, we cannot be free," he said.
Rep. Meeks was first elected to Congress in 1998.
Both Meeks and Lee praised the Center for Global Policy Solutions (CGPS) and its president and CEO, Dr. Maya Rockeymoore, for being at the forefront of issues like wealth creation and tech inclusion.
Watch Rep. Lee give her remarks.
Watch Rep. Meeks give his remarks.


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Gustav Ferdinand Heerbrandt (* 14. März 1819 in Reutlingen; † 26. Mai 1896 in New York) war ein deutsch-amerikanischer Unternehmer und Zeitungsherausgeber.

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Familie
Gustav Heerbrandt wurde im Frühjahr 1819 als Sohn des Reutlinger Buchdruckers Albrecht Gottlob Heerbrandt und dessen Ehefrau Marie Magdalena (geb. Lorenz) geboren. Am 27. August 1843 heiratete er die Ulmerin Karoline Katharina Stahl (1822–1899), eine Tochter des dort ansässigen Apothekers Johann Gottlieb Stahl, und ließ sich in der Folge für einige Jahre in Ulm nieder. Aus seiner Ehe gingen zwischen 1844 und 1848 zwei Töchter und zwei Söhne hervor.

Werdegang

Nach seiner Heirat übernahm Heerbrandt in Ulm von 1843 bis 1846 den Stettin'schen Verlag (siehe auch August Lebrecht Stettin), bevor er seine Wirkungsstätte in seine Geburtsstadt Reutlingen verlegte und dort den Verlag und die Herausgabe des Amtsblatts übernahm; zudem war er Redakteur der Bürgerzeitung.

Nach seiner Festnahme am 2. Juli 1849 und der Verbüßung einer Haftstrafe ging er 1850 nach New York ins Exil und begann dort, sich eine neue Existenz aufzubauen. Im September 1860 nahm er die US-amerikanische Staatsbürgerschaft an. Ab 1867 gab er die Schwäbische Wochenschau in New York heraus.

In der Folge des Gründerkrachs verlor Heerbrandt 1873 einen großen Teil seines bis dahin erworbenen Vermögens und begann erneut eine Buchdruckerei aufzubauen; er druckte unter anderem für die US-Armee. Mithilfe von Freunden gründete er das New-Yorker Schwäbische Wochenblatt, das am 15. Februar 1876 erstmalig erschien und das er dann bis zu seinem Tod leitete; nebenbei betrieb er noch Verlags- und weitere Geschäfte.

Politisches, gesellschaftliches und berufliches Wirken
Das Präsidium der Regierung von Schwaben und Neuburg beschwerte und beklagte sich 1844 über die Verbreitung der von der Stettin'schen Buchhandlung in Ulm veröffentlichten Schmähschrift Lobgesänge auf König Ludwig, verbot diese Druckschrift und bewirkte eine Bestrafung Heerbrandts wegen "Pressevergehens". Es erfolgte eine fünfmonatige Festungshaft, die durch den bayerischen König auf sechs Wochen Haft reduziert wurde.

In Reutlingen war Heerbrandt Initiator und Mitgründer von drei Vereinen: 1846 wurde der Leseverein junger Leute gegründet, im selben Jahr die Turngemeinde (heute Reutlinger Turn- und Sportgesellschaft), die 1847 mit der bestehenden Turngesellschaft zusammengeführt wurde und im Oktober 1847 der Feuer-, Lösch- und Rettungsverein "Pompier-Corps" (heute Reutlinger Freiwillige Feuerwehr). Zur Gründung des Feuerlöschvereins kam es an dem Tag, als der Leseverein gerade tagte und die Viklin'sche Färberei am damaligen Hundsgraben, der heutigen Seestraße, in Flammen aufging und der Leseverein geschlossen half, das Feuer zu löschen.

Die Kommunalbehörden vermuteten in seinen Gründungsbestrebungen politische Ziele, ... den jungen Mitgliedern (...) Grundsätze beizubringen (...) welche geeignet sind, sie in politischer Hinsicht zu corrumpieren; den Mitgliedern seiner Vereine Ideen und Grundsätze beizubringen, die geeignet sein möchten, sie in politischer Beziehung zu verderben.

1847 setzte Heerbrandt sich für eine Ehrung des 1846 verstorbenen Wirtschaftstheoretikers Friedrich List ein.

1848 beteiligte er sich am Märzsturm (siehe auch Reutlingen#Märzrevolution und Industrialisierung), indem er das Kriegsministerium darstellte und Soldaten beeinflusste; hierdurch vernichtete er seine bürgerliche Existenz. Er verbüßte 1849 eine siebenmonatige Haftstrafe in der Festung Hohenasperg und wurde nur unter der Bedingung begnadigt, dass er versicherte, nach Amerika auszuwandern.
Im März 1850 wurde er wegen einer Ehrenkränkung noch zu einer dreimonatigen Haft- und Geldstrafe verurteilt.

Sein New-Yorker Schwäbisches Wochenblatt bildete einen Mittelpunkt für die in den Vereinigten Staaten von Nordamerika lebenden Schwaben, weil er in seinem Blatt einen urwüchsigen Ton verwendete, der der Zeitung zu einer großen Popularität verhalf.

Um die schwäbische Volksliteratur in Amerika zu verbreiten, veranstaltete er Abende mit schwäbischer Dichtung und gab verschiedene Ausgaben schwäbischer Dialektdichtungen, besonders mit Werken von Carl Borromäus Weitzmann und Johannes Nefflen, der ebenfalls in die Vereinigten Staaten emigriert war, heraus.

Heerbrandt verfasste mundartliche Verse, übertrug hochdeutsche Gedichte in die schwäbische Volkssprache und gab heimatlichen Schwänken und Anekdoten eine schriftstellerische Fassung.

Gustav Heerbrandt starb am 26. Mai 1896 im Alter von 77 Jahren in Manhattan, New York.

Gedenken
Am 28. März 2009 beantragte die SPD-Fraktion im Gemeinderat Reutlingen, eine Straße und die neue Sporthalle in Storlach nach Gustav Heerbrandt zu benennen; dem Antrag wurde allerdings nicht gefolgt.

Schriften (Auswahl)
 Wieland, der wackere Schmied. 1850.
 Hannes in Amerika. 1873 (Digitalisat)
 Das Lob der Schwaben. 1874.
 Schnitz und Zwetschgen: Eine Leibspeise für lustige Leute und solche, welche das lachen verlernt haben. New York, 1883.
 Gedichte in schwäbischer Mundart. 1892.
 Schwäbischer Leierkasten: Eine Sammlung komischer Gedichte in schwäbischer Mundart. New York; Reutlingen, 1893.
 Illustrirter Führer durch New York. 1893.
 Der lustige Schwoab. 1895.

Literatur
 August Holder: Geschichte der schwäbischen Dialektdichtung mit vielen Bildnissen. Heilbronn 1896, S. 230–232 (Digitalisat).
 Anton Bettelheim; Georg Wolff: Biographisches Jahrbuch und Deutscher Nekrolog, 1. Band. 1896. Berlin 1897, S. 96 (Digitalisat).
 Franz Brümmer: Lexikon der deutschen Dichter und Prosaisten vom Beginn des 19. Jahrhunderts bis zur Gegenwart, Band 3. Leipzig 1913, S. 188 (Digitalisat).

Weblinks
 Gustav Heerbrandt. In: Indexeintrag: Deutsche Biographie.

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Police officer dies after fan violence before Bilbao-Spartak Moscow
By Andy EdwardsFeb 22, 2018, 5:46 PM EST
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BILBAO, Spain (AP) A Spanish riot police officer died of cardiac arrest after clashes involving Russian soccer fans before a Europa League match on Thursday between hosts Athletic Bilbao and Spartak Moscow, raising concerns less than four months before the World Cup in Russia.
Basque Country authorities in northern Spain said the officer died in hospital after the confrontations outside San Mames Stadium in the city of Bilbao, which will host matches in the 2020 European Championship.
Police also said a Russian man was injured but the extent of his injuries was not immediately disclosed. Five people were arrested – three Russian nationals and two Spaniards.
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The identity of the dead officer was not immediately disclosed.
Spartak won the match 2-1 but Athletic advanced 4-3 on aggregate.
Earlier Thursday, German police arrested a Russian suspected of seriously injuring a British soccer fan during the European Championship in France two years ago.
The trouble in Spain erupted ahead of the round-of-32 match in the second-tiered European club competition.
Police were escorting some Spartak fans into the stadium but a stray group allegedly started igniting fireworks and throwing flares and objects toward Athletic supporters and police officers.
The fighting spread onto the streets near the stadium and police struggled to restore order. Many fans were seen trying to run away from the trouble as fireworks exploded all around.
There was concern ahead of the match because of the reported presence of `Ultra' Russian fans in Bilbao, and a large police force was deployed to try to prevent fan trouble.
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Are you ashamed to share your email address?
I created my email address when Gmail was still an invitation only platform, and I was 15 at that time. I created a short, somewhat funny, and hard to spell email address by using my initials and how my fiends used to call me at school.
During that time, the email address seemed cool, and I registered to all the websites using that email. Recently when I asked for an email from a friend, he gave me a dorky email address, which he might have registered while he was at school or university. Even thought I never told it to his face, I laughed at myself thinking that he must have registered this email address just like me, when
However, now since I'm doing a job, I feel very embarrassed to share my dorky email I created when I was 15. I don't want people to make fun of it. And I also feel very unprofessional when I use the email address for my work. I also don't want to switch to a new email address which is long and difficult to pronounce and easy for anyone to misspell.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who has faced a similar situation, I'm sure there are quite a lot of people who has created dorky email addresses who now feel embarrassed to share with others.
One option I have is to create a separate email account, and forward all the emails to my old email account. Which then I can read though the same inbox.
I also feel like buying a domain name with my name, so I can create an email like [email protected] so it will look cool, and forward all the emails to my regular email address. But then again I have to pay for a domain name which is a small sum but still I'm afraid if I miss renewing the domain name, or someone else use some social engineering or some wired hack to claim my domain name (which has happened to popular domains before, like perl), I will be losing access to all my emails and accounts that I will use to signup from that email.
So I'm guessing what to do, switch to a new email maybe something like hey.com, but I don't know. Has anyone felt ashamed about your old email addresses? What did you do?
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If you haven't heard, it rains in Vancouver. I mind it much less than endless months of snow and cruel temperatures, but this damp cold is more cutting and harder to recover from than the dry cold Alberta offers.
I've had three hot baths since moving here, which is more than I took during my 36 years in Alberta. Baths aren't my thing. They're full of body gunk and hair and ew. Baths weren't my Alberta thing, but maybe they'll become my BC thing.
I don't feel like making this tie together and make sense. You guys, 28 days in a row of posting. I'M TIRED. And amazing.
Joining up with Yeah Write for BlogHer's NaBloPoMo. No guilt. Just fun.
You don't like baths either?
I want it to be December so I can shave! Also I like the thought of you in the bath.
December is too soon and not soon enough.
I shall take more baths.
Mmmmm baths. Here is a quote from the Bell Jar about hot baths! I know I am obsessed with this book, but it seems applicable.
Well. If that doesn't sell a bath, I don't know what will. I need to reread this book. I remember loving it, too, but not the details. Tell me what it is about this book and Sylvia you love so much? I love her and the book too, but you love them deeply. I'm intrigued.
I guess it's because she's so funny and wry about her depression, but also writes about it very honestly, with a lot of raw feeling. She doesn't shy away from anything; she just states the facts. I also just really love her writing style.
I think I relate a lot to the character of Esther Greenwood.
I very much need to read it again. Thanks for sharing this with me. I love talking about books so much.
I've been off the grid for the better part of the week and it just wasn't the same without you. By which I mean I liked baths until I read your post. To get over the idea of jumping into a pool of body gunk and ew I just may have to bring a larger glass of wine to set on the edge of the tub.
To have the power to singlehandedly ruin baths for you… proud or deeply sorry. I'm really torn. I missed you. And I missed you on the actual YW open grid this week.


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I am a native Canadian that moved to Texas 3 years ago with my husband. I started my insurance career 20 years ago in New York City. I have been with the Golseth Agency since 2017 as a customer care associate. I have a large family which includes four children and two grandchildren. I love the outdoors, visiting family all over the US and relaxing in my backyard listening to music.
I am relatively new to Allstate, and I am excited to be part of the Allstate family as a customer care associate. I look forward to beginning training soon to be a licensed sales associate.
I was born and raised here in north Texas. My husband, daughter and I had the opportunity to live near Orlando, Florida from 2002 to 2005, but that is the only time I have lived outside of Texas. My husband and I enjoy traveling, horseback riding, and football (watching). We also love spending time with our daughter and her family.
I have been in the insurance industry since 2007. The best part of my job is connecting with people and helping educate customers to select products to protect what matters most to them. I have been a resident of Denton County since 2003 and love the small-city charm at the square. In my spare time, I enjoy reading and drawing. Health is a priority in our household, so we enjoy being active and exercising. In the spring and summer, we go hiking and paddle boarding on Lake Lewisville.
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Classification: M15+
Minutes: 420
Reviewer: Kyle Sudukis
Survivors � Series One
Based on the original novel and TV series by Terry Nation, Survivors is a modern reinterpretation of his ideas and even though many elements here mirrors the popular TV series Lost, Survivors was here first. The story is set in the not so distant future which has seen the Earth devastated by a modern apocalypse, more specifically a deadly virus that has wiped out most of humanity.
In the ashes, a group of survivors have banded together that includes Abby Grant (Julie Graham), the main protagonist of the series who is looking for her son, Tom Price (Max Beesley), a prisoner who escapes from prison after the virus struck and Greg Preston (Paterson Joseph), a longer and survivalist. As the plot progress, they are joined by Dr. Anya Racyznski (Zoe Tapper), a doctor who still cannot grasp the disaster, Al Sadiq (Phillips Rhys), an Arab Playboy, Najid Hanif (Chahak Patel), an 11-year old Muslim and finally Sarah Bowyer (Robyn Addison), a women who uses her body to get what she wants. Needless to say, it's quite a mixed group of individuals who actually develop a strong loyalty to the group. If you have seen the original, the line-up has definitely changed with the times.
For some unexplained reason, this group of survivors are immune to the virus and because they all come from such a diverse background, it creates some tensions among the group. This is the highlight of the series as the viewer is given a first hand insight into how each of these people cope and interpret the events that have and will happen. Like Lost, the characters behind Survivors are a group of attractive Brits which does make relating to them a little easier, even though they are a little too shiny at times but each has their own motivations and histories which makes the story so enjoyable to watch.
With that said, Survivors Series 1 establishes the characters well as they attempt to find water, food and shelter in this devastated world that has seen everything that mankind has built destroyed. To compound the situation for our unlikely group of heroes, other people have survived as well which has caused a dog eat dog mentally and whereas order once reigned supreme, it has been replaced with chaos. Although many of the episodes can be watched as standalone episodes, there are intricate themes that overlap and continue throughout the series 1 which makes you want to keep watching.
However at times, some episodes feel a little disjointed from the main premise but thankfully this the good overwhelm the bad. In relation to the good, Survivors was a gripping science fiction TV series due to the characterisation and how each of them dealt differently with what happened, including the psychological repercussions that they face. From violent gangs to religious cults, the world of Survivors is not the nicest place to live but in this grim and gritty world, there are a few heroes out there.
On DVD, the video quality is quite impressive and the BBC have never let us down when it comes to perfect picture quality. Add in Dolby Digital 5.1 and you almost have a movie like treat but at 420 minutes, it�s definitely better value for money.
Compared to much dribble coming out of the US, Survivors Series One is definitely a must watch series if you are after a thinking man�s science fiction series like Lost but without all the metaphysical questions and railroading. It�s a very well made series on DVD that puts shows like The Sarah Connor Chronicles and V to shame. It�s must have viewing�bring on Series 2!
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Віктор Сергійович Розов (; , Ярославль, Російська імперія — 28 вересня 2004, Москва, Росія) — радянський і  російський драматург. Лауреат Державної премії СРСР (1967). Академік Російської академії словесності. Президент Російської Академії театрального мистецтва і член Спілки письменників СРСР.

Біографічні відомості
Автор понад 20 п'єс і 6 кіносценаріїв, в тому числі п'єси «Вічно живі» і на її основі — сценарію фільму «Летять журавлі».

Фільмографія
  — В добрий час!
  — Летять журавлі — екранізація п'єси «Вічно живі»
  — Ненадісланий лист
  — Гучний день — екранізація комедії «В пошуках радості»
  — Auf der Suche nach Glück (ФРН) — німецька версія телефільму «У пошуках радості» (1957)
  — På jakt efter lyckan // «У пошуках радості» (Швеція, в співавторстві з Леннартом Лагервалем, )
  — У день весілля
  — За весь у відповіді — екранізація п'єси «Традиційний збір»
 1972 — Сторінка життя
  — У добрий час! — телевізійний варіант однойменної п'єси
  — На край світу…
  — A Siketfajd fészke // «Гніздо глухаря» (Угорщина)
 1980 — Перед вечерею (телеспектакль)
  — З вечора до полудня
  — Наїзники

Примітки

Посилання
 Розов Виктор Сергеевич // Большая советская энциклопедия: [в 30 т.] / под ред. А. М. Прохоров — 3-е изд. — М.: Советская энциклопедия, 1969.

Випускники Літературного інституту
Драматурги XX століття
Радянські драматурги
Російські драматурги
Радянські сценаристи
Російські сценаристи
Радянські письменники
Лауреати Державної премії СРСР
Члени Спілки письменників СРСР
Викладачі Вищих курсів сценаристів і режисерів


Not long ago I was given an award for leadership. I'm not bragging here. Actually, I'm kind of amused about it. Because for the vast majority of my life I've never thought of myself and never tried to be any kind of a leader. In fact if I had a role in most groups, it was the joker.
I grew up assuming that leaders were forceful and confident men from important families who went to prestigious universities…just about the opposite of my background. I was a chubby kid who grew up in a post-war suburban tract house. My parents were lower-middle class undiagnosed depressives. I went to public schools all the way and graduated from a state teachers college with an unremarkable grade point average of straight B's. Even in the egalitarian protest movement of the 1970's I was one more lemming who followed the charismatic leaders into a line of cops and often got clobbered.
When I first ran for selectman, becoming a leader was the last thing on my mind. A group of people in my neighborhood were attempting to save our homes from a really bad plan cooked up by the Chairman of the Board of Selectmen, a plan that would make Wellfleet the host community for a Cape-wide garbage collection plant that would make life miserable for 200 nearby families. By the way, the Chairman of the Board was a leader with all the right credentials: a forceful and confident man from an important New England family, who went to a prestigious ivy-league university.
I won the election but even then I remained in the shadows, made funny comments, and never stepped up to the role of leader because it seemed to me that that was a job for people who had unshakable confidence in their singular point of view…and my problem was that I never thought there was only one way to do things.
To me, there are a lot of different ways to attack any issue. What I considered compromising, real leaders considered losing. And most times, the issues the leaders fought hardest to win, were issues that citizens resented most.
My big moment came because of an old tree in front of Town Hall, which the Board of Selectman wanted to chop down. We got an important grant to pay to a certified town planner to devise a modern design for the old town green, to chop the tree down and pave it over with a drive-through for buses and taxicabs.
Needless to say the citizens protested. They circulated petitions. They chained themselves to the tree. And the more they agitated, the more the Chair of the Board dug in her heels in and shut them up in meetings and ridiculed them in the newspapers. Because we were the town leaders and we had a consultant and we had a site plan and that meant we knew more than the people. But, of course, the people were absolutely right. There was no reason in the world to get rid of that tree.
I stood up to the Board to say just that, which gave me a new understanding of what leadership was all about, or I should say, not about. Leadership is not about having an unshaken belief in your own ideas; leadership is not about having the best ideas, leadership is not about taking a stand and never backing down.
Leadership is about listening, no matter how sure you are of your brilliant ideas. Leadership is about being able to change those ideas if people come up with better ones.
Leadership is about taking the time necessary to communicate…and to answer questions…and to meet endlessly, sometimes one-on-one and again and again…and to assure people that although they may not agree with you, they are not wrong or stupid or selfish.
And even when you make a decision people don't like, leadership is about keeping everyone in the loop and informed. Because that makes them feel respected and because you will have to work with them again, and you will never be able to lead people in the future if you have made them feel worthless in the past.
And here's the final thing I know about being a leader. Leaders have to be able to lose and to compromise…and maybe the people who know how to do this best are the people have always had to lose and compromise, the people who didn't go to prestigious schools; the people who didn't grow up in the happiest families, the people who didn't grow up forceful and confident. Certainly people like me; maybe even people like you.
Because the best leaders, in my opinion, are the ones that can best identify with the people they are leading.
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And shouldn't this be in the "suggestions for new foods and meals" topic?
I'm sure it was because I remember adding pesto and a few other things to the possibilities for uses there. Either way, yes please!
This is likely to be the next thing to get implemented, although with different numbers.
If there are any specific things you'd like to suggest to be implemented, now would be the time to do so.
The pizza should use olive oil (and cheese).
Implemented, uses are upcoming. Something else, ladder increases olive harvest now.


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Pterolonchidae és una petita família d'arnes pertanyent a la superfamília Gelechioidea.  Wikispecies (2008-NOV-06)

Taxonomia i sistemàtica
Les subfamílies i gèneres de Pterolonchidae són:
 Coelopoetinae  Hodges, 1978
  Coelopoeta   Walsingham, 1907
 Syringopainae  Hodges, 1998
  Syringopais   Hering, 1919
 Pterolonchinae  Meyrick, 1918
  Anathyrsa   Meyrick, 1920
  Plexippica   Meyrick, 1912
  Pterolonche   Zeller, 1847
 No col·locat a la subfamília
  Houdinia   Hoare, Dugdale & Watts, 2006
  Homaledra   Busck, 1900

Antics gèneres
  Agenjius
  Gomezbustillus
  Phthinostoma   Meyrick, 1914

Referències

Lepidòpters


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Miguel Angel Jimenez on top Friday at challenging British Open
By Bill Dwyre
GULLANE, Scotland — Friday's second round of the British Open was more like a game of king of the mountain than a golf tournament.
Many tried to get there. Only Spain's Miguel Angel Jimenez stayed on top.
He shot even par 71, to go with his 68 Thursday, and three under par was better than anybody else in the field could do, on yet another day of high temperatures, bright sunshine and a lightning-fast Muirfield golf course.
LEADERBOARD: British Open
The weekend might resemble a calvary charge. There are four players a shot behind Jimenez, including Tiger Woods, and 14 more within four shots of the lead, including Phil Mickelson.
Weekend TV ratings for this one should be good, despite the time difference in the United States. Anything can happen, and probably will.
Jimenez is 49. Were he to win, he would be the oldest major golf champion ever, a year older than Julius Boros, who was 48 when he won the 1968 PGA.
"I enjoy myself," Jimenez said. "I keep elastic and flexible. I'm still training and walking and still able to shoot low and still be here. "
Clustered with Woods at two-under 140 are England's Lee Westwood, Sweden's Henrik Stenson and long-hitting American Dustin Johnson. Westwood, a veteran and longtime hopeful of British fans as a major winner, shot the best round of the day with his 68, which matched Charl Schwartzel.
Maybe this will be the year. Westwood was asked, in light of Scotland's Andy Murray winning at Wimbledon to break a 77-year drought for the British men, if he felt there might be some karma.
"Yeah, I suppose so," he said. "There's definitely a feel-good factor in Britain."
Woods got to three under twice, but bogeyed the par four 11th and didn't get back to two under until he sank a 12-footer on No. 18 for a birdie.
He finished early and seemed to like his chances for the weekend.
"I'm in a good spot," he said "These guys have to go out this afternoon and obviously play a course that is quick, and it's drying out and with a different wind. So it will be tough out there."
And so it was.
Zach Johnson, the first-round leader, reached five under twice, but faded at the end, double bogeying the 15th and hacking it around in the rough for another bogey on the 18th.
Rafael Cabrera-Bello of Spain also got it to five under, with a birdie on No. 7. But like all the others, Muirfield reeled him back in.
Stenson and Dustin Johnson each rode a roller coaster all day. Stenson had five birdies, but also a double bogey and two bogeys. Johnson had an eagle and two birdies, but also four bogeys.
Mickelson, trying to win his second straight links tournament after clinching the Scottish Open, had a similar ride in his 74. He had three birdies, two bogeys and two double bogeys.
Northern Ireland's Darren Clarke, champion two years ago at Royal St. George, had among the more remarkable rounds. He made five birdies, but carded an eight on No. 6 when it took him three shots to get out of a bunker. He ended up even par and still on the leaderboard at one over.
Nick Faldo, three-time British champion, who was trying again at age 56, said after his 78 that left him 15 over par and done for the tournament, "I'm delighted I did it. I don't recommend it."
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after his 78 that left him 15 over par and done for the tournament, "I'm delighted I did it. I don't recommend it."


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Eberswind est le premier abbé de Niederaltaich.  On lui attribue la rédaction de la Lex Baiuvariorum.

Sources

Bibliographie
 Roman Deutinger, Stephan Deutinger: Die Abtei Niederaltaich. Geschichte, Kultur und Spiritualität von der Gründung bis zur Säkularisation (= Studien und Mitteilungen zur Geschichte des Benediktinerordens. Bd. 53). EOS, Sankt Ottilien 2018, .
 Ludger Drost, Johannes Hauck: Abtei Niederaltaich. Benediktinisch – bayerisch – byzantinisch. Verlag Friedrich Pustet, Regensburg 2018, .

Abbé du VIIIe siècle
Personnalité du haut Moyen Âge par nom
Juriste (droit romano-germain)


For those of you who don't know, Ben "The Reverend" Lovejoy '03 is a professional hockey player. Lovejoy played at Deerfield before continuing his career at Dartmouth and is now making a career out of the sport in the NHL. Lovejoy started his career on the Pittsburgh Penguins; with them, he won the 2016 Stanley Cup. Lovejoy currently resides in New Jersey where he plays for the New Jersey Devils. The Devils made it to the playoffs this season, but their run was cut short by fellow Deerfield alum Alex Killorn '08 and the Tampa Bay Lightning. We caught up with Lovejoy on the phone to reminisce about his time at Deerfield.
Tying Choate in soccer my senior year to make the New England tournament. Even though soccer was not my main sport, it was incredible to see the team reach such amazing heights. We may not have been the most skilled team, but we had a whole lot of heart.
I went down before I even went to Deerfield. I was coming to DA the next year, and Deerfield was playing a tournament in the barn. I remember standing on the glass watching the crowd go absolutely bananas and I just couldn't wait to be a part of it. I was only a young kid, but I knew that this was the school for me.
Mr. and Mrs. Creagh's Ham & Cheese Hot Pockets, for sure.
Bagpipes going down to the lacrosse field. I don't even mean to sound like a jock, they're just so cool!
The late, great Mr. Kapteyn. He was such a big influence for me in and out of the classroom.
Mr. Henry's junior year English class.


Columbus, GA – Registering an official committee with the Federal Election Commission earlier today, former Columbus Mayor Teresa Tomlinson is the first Democrat to formally explore a run for the U.S. Senate in Georgia. In an email alert to supporters, Tomlinson expressed some of the considerations behind her decision.
As an eighth-generation Georgian with deep ties throughout the state, Tomlinson was born and raised in Atlanta. A proud product of Georgia public schools, Tomlinson attended Sweet Briar College in Virginia and earned her law degree from Emory University. Quickly earning the respect of her legal colleagues, she became the first female partner of their firm, before moving to Columbus where she met her husband.
Before becoming Mayor, Tomlinson also served as Executive Director of MidTown Inc., a non-profit that partners with business leaders to clean up and rebuild blighted communities. Her successful service led her to back-to-back wins in her Mayoral races, earning more than 60 percent of the vote each time in the minority-majority city.
As Democrats look to regain a majority in the U.S. Senate, Tomlinson's political strength could go a long way in helping turn Georgia blue. But first, she'll need to make a final decision about entering the race and make her case to Georgia voters.


I've posted about these before, but never got a shot in of my own. Magazine pics usually don't end up looking like what comes out of our kitchens, so here's the proof, and here's why I keep making them again and again... As someone said, they're a brownie, but more exciting.
WHAT! i'm so sad you're not bringing these tonight!


Who has the jersey ?
Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by postman, 24 Mar 2015.
Excellent! I'll PM you in a few days.
It's almost a year since I picked up the cycle Chat jersey that's meant to be travelling north.
There must be other Cycle Chatters in the Manchester area that haven't yet signed it.
So who would like to meet up and then find someone to pass it on to?
Yes. There is a slight chance that I could cycle to the meeting point and that is one option.
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Actually I do think I remember. 'twas at Wellington Arch wasn't it? On that ride we did.
that I passed it on?
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