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April 11, 2011 by: Shell
Public VS Private School: A Decision I Never Thought I'd Make
Before my boys were born, I was a public school teacher. A big believer that the biggest difference in a child's school experience comes from the parents: if child has an involved parent and the family values education, then you can have a positive experience at almost any school.
I still do believe that.
But, it's not as simple as that.
My Bear will be old enough to go to kindergarten in the fall. We had gone back and forth over the decision to send him or wait a year, since he will still be a young 5.
At this point, we think we're going to send him. His teacher always says how smart he is- it's not a matter of academic-readiness, it's a matter of emotional and behavioral. While some of these concerns are probably normal for any boy his age, our biggest concerns are the complications he has from lead poisoning.
Will he be okay in a public school classroom?
One that might very well be over-crowded, like my oldest's was at the beginning of this year- he started the year with almost 30 kindergarteners in his class. That lasted about a month or so, until they added another kindergarten teacher. But, a month is a long time and the first month of school is such a crucial one for a child's adjustment to school.
Will they be able to give him the special assistance that he needs? While there is a special education program at the school, how quickly he would be serviced and if it would be enough have me concerned.
Sometimes a mama has to go with her gut and my gut is telling me that my Bear would drown in the public kindergarten.
So, we are looking at the Christian school, where he would be in a small class. We're also looking at the Montessori school, with its child-centered approach.
I've realized that just like the rest of the choices that we've had to make for our children, it's not really about a generalization like "Public schools are the way to go!" but about what each individual child needs.
Do you send your children to public or private school? How did you make that choice?
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Our schools aren't separated like this – except for Montessori. You are so right – it is all about the child. Keep us posted.
good for you for going with your gut feeling.. our town has great public schools, so our boys will be going there.
but like yours, my little guy will be a very young five when entering K… my gut feeling was telling me that we should wait another year even though his preschool teachers were telling me he is ready… it took some time for me to trust myself and my mommy instincts and we have decided to put him in a K readiness program which we didn't know our town offered.. I feel so relieved that there we have this option…
RottenMom says
Go with your gut feeling! My experience is that a Mama should trust her intuition.
Although we are very fortunate to have been able to move into a school district that meets the needs of ALL students and has smaller class sizes, it wasn't that way when my kids were younger. At one point one child was in private school while one was being home schooled and the youngest was still attached to my hip!
Trust your inner Mom voice!
Public but maybe we are lucky. We have an amazing public school system here.
Go with your gut. My children go to public school, but that's because, financially, I have no other option. Even if I were to teach at a private school and get a break on tuition, it still wouldn't be doable, so I can't honestly say what I'd do if I were able to explore other options.
That said, I did hold The Boy a year, as he too would have been a young 5. Even at almost 6, he would have drowned in a Kindergarten with 30 kids. He was too shy, timid, and overwhelmed that first month.
My only concern with private would making sure they have the means to meet any IEP goals, but it sounds like you're doing your homework, so go with your gut. You'll find the best place for your Bear.
I went to both schools. I went to the public school for most of my education then during 7th and 8th grade i went to a private christian school and then went back to public school until I graduated. I did well in both settings, had just about the same social experiences, etc. I agree with what you said I think a child's family & his first teacher's attitudes and views on education can greatly influence a child.
Well, it doesn't have to be all or nothing. You could always do private, with the idea of reassessing his needs each year. Or vice versa. I hope his transition to school goes smoothly 🙂
Our 3 kids went both public and private. One is special needs.
Beware the public schools and special needs. Due to budget problems schools do not want to find any problems because if they do they have to remediate them. Private schools have a different problem; the public school has to provide the testing and IEP or 504. The system requires that the child fail before a teacher can request testing; this uses up 6 months time. Then they have 30 days to create the IEP or 504 and see if the child benefits. Even though an IEP or 504 is created, schools usually ignore the hard requirements or totally ignore them even though its the law. If you have outside testing done, the school will try to reject them as tainted because you paid for the results even though the school results are even more tainted. They usually can't afford to find a problem because they would have to offer remediation. WE found that our local Children't Hospital gave us the most accurate picture of all the problems. It was expensive, not covered by insurance, and required a pediatrician's referal. Don't tell the school that you are having your child tested at Children's Hospital and compare it to the school's testing. You will be shocked at the difference. Do not allow your young child to have IQ testing done at this young age. It is unreliable at this age but the system will use it against you. If he does not score well on his IQ test, they will deny services because he has already reached his potential. You can opt out of the IQ test portion but you have to opt out in writing prior to the testing.
I am concerned about your child's young age. If he is going to struggle in any way I would strongly suggest holding him back until he is almost 6. As a special needs child he need to be able to advocate for himself. He will have more transtitions than most children due to the pull out programs for special needs. He will have less free time to interact with the other children. Local sports teams are based on grade levels; the extra year makes a huge difference. All 3 of our children have late summer birthdays. The first started school at 5. It caught up with her around grade 5. We finally pulled her out of public school and put her into private school and had her repeat grade 8. She wasn't failing but she definately was not thriving. It was a good decision that she appreciates now. The boys were started at age 6.
I think you're so right in saying you have to go with your gut. That's so important when making decisions like this. We are sending our oldest to public school next fall, but we did spend a lot of time discussing the situation. For us, my son has a September birthday our biggest conversation was whether to do 3yr o4 4yr preschool (he will be 4 in September). We went with 3yr and I keep hoping I made the right decision!
Merri Ann says
I, too, have one entering Kindergarten this fall. We made the decision last year to hold her back. Our preschool was surprised because she was clearly ready to go. Our bottom line … we want her to be the more mature one when she is a teenager … we are way less concerned about right now.
Everyone we consulted about this last year ended with basically the same comment, "We have never met any parents who have regretted holding their child back but we have met plenty who have regretted not doing it …"
Since the decision as made, we have moved to a new state. One which has some of the worst schools in the country (from a state that had some of the best). We just a few weeks ago learned that her Kindergarten class will have 30-40 students and will only be 3 hours a day … now we are on hunt for a private school.
I can't imagine any child doing well with one teacher and that many 5 year olds … even the best teacher would be challenged given those odds.
Does this parenting business EVER get any easier? :))
I agree with Lisa – something you could re-visit every year.
We will do public no matter which school district we end up in until at least the jr high school level. Then we will re-visit the idea of Catholic school. I agree that family values and involvement have a big effect on the child's education, but some cases have special circumstances that need to be evaluated from a different point of view.
The schools in my area have such a huge difference between public & private. It's completely absurd, but I won't get on that soap box right now. ALthough, I'm sure we'll discuss it in following emails. : )
My boys STARTED in a private school. I think it made all the difference in my oldest. He struggled, had speech delays, learning issues & needed extra attention. He blossomed.
The middle one has been predominately educated by the public school system. And while I've been mostly pleased, I still see a HUGE discrepancy in the way gifted children are dealt with. Again- another soapbox.
Now that they are both in middle school, I wish I could afford to send them to private schools. Cost is such a huge thing around here though. Many of them are higher than local universitites.
The youngest will be starting kindergarten in the fall. We struggled about sending her last year or not because her birthay falls 2 weeks after the cut off. SInce she's my baby, I opted with keeping her home but I'm afraid she will be bored. I only hope we get a good teacher that can handle it.
It is tough to decide. My children have very different learning styles and needs too and, while I thought they would all be in school together that may not be realistic. I think it is great you are looking at things for him as an individual and, because of that, you will make the right decision. Good luck!
Rochelle@AFamilyofLooneys says
My girl goes to public school. Last year she went to a private pre-k. We loved her school. I have to say I really miss it. I missed the one on one attention she got. I missed how her teacher really interacted with her. I feel like she does not get that where she is now. If we had the money to spend I would send her to private school.
Amethyst Moon says
I say each child is an individual and just as they don't all wear the same clothes, or eat the same food, they also don't all have the same needs. Go with your gut!
Mine both went to Public school, but there have been moments with #2 that I've questioned that decision because she just isn't a traditional school kid, so she may have done better in a magnet school program (performing arts.)
The public schools in my area ARE good. But, I still think we're leaning toward private school.
Husband and I both have parents who have taught for decades in the public education system. And, our problem is not with the individual educators. Not at all.
However, the more I think about it, the more I want my child in a system that isn't afraid of getting sued over simply reprimanding, or a system that doesn't feel obligated to teach to the test. That's not to say we won't change our mind … just my very early thoughts on the matter. Good thing we have a few years!
Good luck to you. You have to make the best choice for each individual child … and there is nobody better to do that than a parent!
Mo 'Betta says
My girls, now 2nd and 4th grade, have been in public and private schools. The decision was based on the school systems where we lived at the time. I have to say, I absolutely loved private school, as did the girls. However, they also love public school, where they are now. It is def. a decision you have to make based on your "mama insticts" and your child. As you are probably aware, depending on the services he needs, private school does not always offer them on the same level as public school. In our experience, my kids were in a better social setting in private school, but getting more "content" from public. Public school curriculum is faster paced (got to get everything in before EOG's!) and offers more in the way of technology based instruction…but in Kindergarten, social is one of the most important things. I know I'm not helping at all, I'm just rambling. My point is, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Maybe you could sit in at each place you're looking at and see what you think is the best fit for your child? Also, it was a little overwhelming for my kids going from private school to public, but they weren't behind, they just had to learn to do things at a faster pace and deal with all the other stuff going on around them while trying to learn. I guess if I'm honest, if I had the money, they would probably be in private school again. They are fine,happy and doing well where they are, but the private school where we used to live was a really good environment. It may not be that way everywhere, and I may not feel that way when they are older.
I agree with you, it needs to be based on each child individually. If I could, I would send R and T to the private Christian school near us. Problem is, it's 30 minutes away and gets out when I am already at work. Of course, Dave works 30 minutes in the opposite direction! So public school it is for us, purely out of logistics. I'm not looking forward to it, as someone who as experienced students having every teacher in the local public school. If I could hand pick each teacher, then I'd have no problems.
Maybe going with your little one to check out each school would help make the decision easier? He might have a really strong opinion!
Since I have no kids, and I think I am not really qualified to have an opinion on this. BUT, I do think that as a former teacher, you have the knowledge to be able to trust your instincts on this one.
I am however, looking into boarding school for my dog…
Erica@PLRH says
You are so right in that you must do what's best for your son. We're very lucky in that the public school system is excellent. Our eldest son is exceptionally gifted and was able to advance a grade when needed and participate in the gifted program in elementary and middle school. Even the local high school has a diverse AP class schedule.
Our youngest son required speech therapy and it was provided through the public preschool program. By kindergarten he was ready for mainstream classes.
With both children, I followed my instincts and I'm glad I did.
Evonne says
My kids go to public school. I consider us lucky because the school is amazing!
I think you need to go with your gut. You know your child better than anyone else.
I know parents here who have pulled their kids from private school and gone public. The private school just didn't have the money to have the special programs their kids need.
From things you've talked about with Bear, if private or Montessori schools can offer additional help, he might do better with the smaller class size. Either way you go, you can always see how he does in Kindergarten and re-evaluate the situation at the end of the year.
I think that it really depends on the individual school itself (not necessarily if it is private or public). We were concerned about sending Peanut to Kindergarten (public school & her bday is Aug 27th) so early but she seemed mature enough to go. Also, we were able to request our son's previous kindergarten teacher and we knew that she was an amazing teacher and that she cares about everyone of her students. We made the right decision. And I know this because she was just moved into the highest reading group last week! It was a very proud moment for the youngest kid in the class!
If it had been any other school I may not have been so sure. We also could not afford any of the private schools in our area. I think that if you do some research and even address your concerns with both schools it will help.
There are so many things to consider when choosing to place your child. Your child's needs, your child's desires, your financial situation…
Currently, I have three in public schools. I will not brag that they are the best schools ever. I will say they try really hard and do rank well all around. Yet, they do struggle to meet some of my expectations.
This year, I will be looking into a private school for my youngest to attend kindergarten in 2012. I have a feeling my youngest will go back to public school in 1st, but his needs for kindergarten (routine) will not be met at public. I am also considering private school for my daughter, who is currently in 1st grade.
I don't think I could consider private school for my 10 year old. He is very competitive academically and in sports. Most of our local private schools lack in the sports department. Since he seems to be doing well academically, I won't waiver on the sports.
Alex@LateEnough says
I always thought we'd do public school. I went to public school and I hate the idea of public school being only for those who can't afford better.
However, when I had children, I realized how close-minded I was being. Each children has different needs and learning styles and a public school may not be able to meet those needs. We had to be open to Montessori, Christian schools, private day schools, and public school so we could make the best decision for our children. Not just for my ideals.
The other idea that helped was that spending a few years in private school (or public school) and transferring is fine. It doesn't have to be a lifelong decision. (even though it FEELS like that).
Good luck with yours! It sounds like you are on the right track!
I went public school…kindergarten was a nightmare! Doodles hated school, felt his teacher hated him and spent more time in the principals office than getting the help he needed.
For first grade I really struggled with the decision on what to do public or private…since I was moving I looked at the 2 school districts and interviewed them & the private school and laid all my cards on the table. I pretty much asked them what they could do for Doodles with his issues…I choose the public school. Doodles is doing awesome. He loves school (with a few minor blips of course).
I really think its about the initial interview – what can the school do for Bear. You are all on the same team…if the public school cannot offer what he needs, then it makes the decision a little easier. Good luck Shell!!! I know how hard this decision is.
I'm a huge believer in public schools. I believe they're actually what makes America great (you look at any of the "rising powers," and you see that kids who chose to go to school need to make herculean efforts in order to do so – we teach anyone, and we do so proudly).
That said, looking at what's going on in Wisconsin, and New Jersey, and now in my own state (PA), I'm not so sure I want my kids going to public schools. It really seems that the focus for taxpayer money is going further & further away from supporting childhood education. It both saddens & angers me . . . but, I'll admit that, in 4 years when I'm looking at sending my oldest to school, I can't say that I'm certain that I'll chose public school.
I may talk my wife into heading back to teach – find a private school where she do what she does, and then send my children there so that we might not have to pay just as much. We'll see how that goes . . . I cannot imagine a kindergarten of 30+ kids, and I really fear that becoming the norm.
When we moved we picked the town we did because of the school system. It is really great. Baby Girl started Kindergarten last fall and so far I've only had minimal complaints (I mean you can't really love everything). Thankfully both of my children are pretty average so at this point I don't think I have to be concerned about learning disabilities or the gift and talented program. As they get older something may crop up, but for now we are good with public school. Which is a good thing because one of the largest private schools in our area just closed.
I grew up in public schools as did Craig. Where we live currently has fabulous public schools, HOWEVER, Memphis City just surrendered their school charter, and with the way the laws are written, the county system is required to consolidate with them. The Memphis City Schools are riddled with problems, poor performance, etc., and making one GIANT system is essentially going to ruin our county system. Like Natalie mentioned (we live about 10 minutes apart), even the least expensive private schools are comparable in cost to universities.
I hate the thought of me returning to work full time purely to pay for 2 kids to go to private school. But we parents gotta do what we feel is best for our kids.
Dazee Dreamer says
My grandkids go to a charter school. Its not private, so they don't have to pay tuition, but only 25 kids max per class and only 3 classes per grade. I love their curriculam and they do really cool field trips. My grandkids are thriving in this school. It's their first year and they are doing so much better than at the public school.
Tiff says
I have been homeschooling my son, but this fall he will be attending Christian school when we move. Christian school wasn't an option for where we are now (too expensive) but when we move the tuition is paid for so we're excited for the opportunity he will have!
Suniverse says
Like you, I am a big believer in public schools. My daughter went to public school through middle school, and I have been involved every step of the way.
Next year? She's going to private school, because that's the best option for her.
I think you have to go with what's best for each child. Otherwise, you do them a disservice.
LOG says
I went to private school my whole life because the public schools in the area were not great.
However, the suburban public schools here actually are BETTER for kids in situations like Bear's. So if it was me, I would go private, because of that. But you make whatever decision is best for you and Bear.
Kmama says
I always went to public school, so it was what I had planned for my kids. My husband went to private (catholic) school for his first 5 years and then switched to public. We both had good experiences, and the school districts we went to (and live in now) are good, so we chose public for our kids. I've always been a big believe in the public school system. Do you have any charter schools in your area? I'm not a huge charter school fan because of the fact that they use public funds…but I have heard that sometimes they are more accommodating for children with special situations.
My children go to private & with the third one starting in the fall, we are starting to feel the financial pinch.
But neither of the public school systems near us, I don't feel are very good. Well, as good as the education & personal attention they are receiving now. They have small class sizes (@ 15 kids) & since Sass has a learning disability, she receives extra attention & help.
My only concern for you is the extent of special ed bear needs. Most private schools don't have "special ed programs", but what Sass has & that's just one-on-one extra help (kind of like tutoring). But from talking with you about him this may be all he needs as well.
Teddy's starting Kindergarten in the fall as well and, while I know that the school system here in Nashville leaves a LOT to be desired, the elementary schools are pretty good. It's when he hits middle school that I'm a bit worried.
The school he's starting at is a good one, but it's also the biggest in the county. There are 10 kindergarten classes this year. It blows my mind. I don't worry so much about him getting lost in the classes – he's smart, friendly and middle-of-the-road age-wise with a February birthday. But 10 classes… that just seems like a lot.
Unfortunately, while there are a few of the private schools that I'd consider sending him to, they just aren't in the budget. $7000 for a year is just outside what we can afford right now.
I'm thinking of the home schooling option, depending on how he handles school next year. It has me a bit nervous, because I'm not sure how well I'd do with it. So I guess all of it is a wait and see.
As for your decision, good for you! It's good to remember that not everything is the same for everyone.
Good luck with Bear in school in the fall!
It is very complicated. It is easy to think black and white on an issue before it effects you. My two oldest went to a private Kindergarten. My job pays for the private kindergarten. The private K set them up hugely for success (think a group of 20 children with 2 qualified teachers – huge difference). In first grade they started at the local Public School and no they had no trouble at all making friends – they were 6 and when you are 6 friends just happen. This year we moved them to a different public school as part of a school choice program – so we drive them and pick them up everyday (about 20 minutes each way). We did this not so much because of the academics (the schools were comparable), but because of the athletic programs. Both of my older children are huge athletes and are local PS did not offer much in the way of competitive athletic programs (they have an awesome music program). We opted to switch them now because my oldest was starting Middle School and we felt that that was a good transition year for her and because we were told that if we waited until High School their is a School Choice Wait List.
My youngest starts K in September. Initially we considered moving her to the School Choice PS so at least they would all be in the same area – even though still 3 different schools. In the end, though, I couldn't do it. She will be a young Kindergartener (June birthday) and even though it would be more convenient I could not put her in the PS. I really wanted her to have that one last year in a cozy/comfortable environment where I check in with the teachers every day.
Yup – lots of hard decisions. Always trust your mommy gut.
You are so right to go with your gut!
I think the most important thing for any parent is that you have to be the advocate for your child no matter where you are. You are bascially going to have to be "that mom". You know the one that the teachers talk about and cringe when they hear you are calling – well maybe not to that extreme, but you as a parent have more rights then you realize! If you want something for your child and they have an IEP (indivudualized Educational Plan) then put it in that IEP and it will be LAW!
I've taught special ed for many many years so if you have questions let me know!
Just a little aside – I would put your son in a young fives program first and then kindergarten the next year. From what I have experienced it is always better to be one of the older ones in your class especially if you are a boy – good for maturity and sports – just my two cents 🙂
Boobies says
First of all-GREAT topic!
My two oldest kids are in public school…always have been. Though many times a private school setting crosses my mind. When they were young, the option to send them to a private school wasn't an option…now as my youngest nears Kindergarten…I start to really put more thought into it. Not because I have a grudge against public school…I just don't think ANY school is equipped to hold him. 😉
I think you just gotta follow your heart…a mom always knows whats best!
Eternal Lizdom says
Teagan started preschool at a school that offered great before and after care and that also has a private kindergarten. We love her school. We love it enough that we chose to keep her there. Part of that was because the school knows her so well already. Part of that was so she had a strong foundation. Part of that was because we love that kindergarten teacher so much.
And we made the right choice. We dealt with some unanticipated behavior issues that I think would have gone unchecked and been a lot worse in a public setting.
Teagan will start public school for first grade in the fall.
Zach… we wait and see. He's got at least 2 years of preschool left before we have to make any decisions.
I have to admit that we are a little scared about public school now. It's just overwhelming because where T is now… we're just so comfortable and we trust them so much. I wish the school's owner could expand the school to elementary or at least offer an aftercare program or something. And we've looked at some private schools online but… we bought our house in a district with a fantastic school system and it's part of why we chose to live here! So she'll go public next year.
Well, we've got a blend. We send our two older boys to a public Montessori school (the only one in our city) and so far, the child-centered approach is working.
Though the Kindergartner, at times tends to need more structure since he gets so easily distracted due to sensitivity to noises, lights and crowds – an issue in a Montessori setting since the children are allowed to move independently throughout the classroom – the Montessori approach has helped him in fostering independence and has been a good fit.
Hubby likes the fact that it's overseen by the public school district so the school has to follow the same standard of the majority of schools where we live.
Our decision was based on the needs of our Kindergartner. We felt like because of his constant movement, he wouldn't flourish in a public school setting but we also said if we found the Montessori method didn't work for him, we would pull him out and try the traditional public school setting or another alternative.
I wholeheartedly believe in putting the needs of your child first when selecting schools instead of just going along with what is popular or what the rest of the neighborhood is doing.
My oldest girl has been in private school thus far. My youngest is starting in private this fall. We have the same problems at our school that we expected from the public school in our area. So this fall we are switching to a different school and will see how it goes. We just wanted a solid Christian education for our girls and felt that a private school was best. But we are taking it year by year and seeing how it goes. Growing up, my parents had to separate my sister and I. I did just fine in public school, but my sister had nothing but problems, so she went to private school. They had to look at what was best for each of us and do what they felt was best.
Ohhhh. I could say so much about this that I could write a whole post. Maybe I will and link to you. I send my kids to a public school, which has a dual stream. They are in the regular program, and there is a Montessori stream as well. I find parents want a label, they want their kids going to a special school. They don't want regular public anymore, and that is a shame. A terrible shame. I am a real advocate for community schools. Anyway, I'm going to think on this and give you a more rounded, intellectual answer!
I highly considered a Montessori school for my son just because I thought it would be such a great match for his learning style and interests but in the end we went with the public school and he is doing great! But he is also older now, we started him last year (he was turning 5) but after a week pulled him out and put him preschool for a year. That was the best decision ever as I think he would have struggled the entire time last year and now is doing awesome.
We are in public school right now but we are always always cognizant of how the kids and teachers are working together…even homeschooling isn't off the table.
Lourie says
My son got thrown into kindergarten because he was too old for the headstart program and we couldn't afford preschool. He struggled for the first few months, but he is doing worlds better now. It's really a tough decision to make. Go with your gut. You still have time to think about it and see how he progresses.
As a previous commenter said, "Go with your gut! It's never wrong." My kids go to public school, but we don't live in a very large city. I LOVE our elementary school and the teachers there, but it's what is best for YOUR kids that matters. Good luck.
We assumed our kids would be public schooled just because we were. Then I had to go back to work, so we really didnt have any other options. Kat is in 2nd grade this year, and while I love her teacher, I am not impressed with the teacher she would have next year, or the district admin as a whole.
We will be homeschooling all the kids next year. I will be home, and since I have a teaching degree, it seemed kind of silly for me not to use it with my own kids. We may enroll them in the Christian middle school when we are old enough, but we will just have to see. I will not have them in the public middle or high school – too many issues for me to feel like my kids are safe.
Great topic, by the way!
I know we're years from this, but it's still a topic of conversation with my husband & I because he's a teacher at a Christian school. I think you're totally right…you can make the best of any school you send your child to as long as the parents are involved. I think I'd go with a public school because I look at the kids who grad from his school and they are very sheltered. On the other hand, they haven't been around some of the negative influences in the public school. so it's really a toss up and depends on the child definitely!
diane rene says
my kids have all been in private kindergarten. I prefer the small class sizes and the biggest pull?? public kindergarten (in my area) is only half day. my girls gave up naps at 2 and could easily handle a full day of school. and, having a first grade teacher as a close friend? she told me half the class falls asleep after lunch – uh, no way.
all my girls attended public school from first grade on. I have no regrets, especially after seeing how some of the private schools in the area 'work'.
but it is such a personal choice. I see your concerns and I think the class sizes are only going to get worse before they get better :/
Ugh, we agonized over our oldest and ended up sending her to private for kindy – but moving her to public for first grade. We loved the safe environment of the private, Christian school – but found it lacked resources on both ends of the spectrum – for gifted services and special needs. As much as we were nervous about the big, public school – she has flourished there and we love it. Our middle is now in kindy in a public Montessori. It is such a great environment for her. We are lucky to have public choices here where my kids will probably always be in different schools as they are such different kids.
Good luck with your decision, mama. It is not easy xoxo
I think every child needs different things. I know people who made different decisions for each child and each one was right for them.
Ado says
Well since this it the Things I Can't Say blog I'm going to say that I have a real bias toward private school. There I said it. It's v. politically incorrect but I will be honest, there is no way I would send my children to public school. I know this is a really unpopular thing to say and as I write this I feel like I should apologize for in advance because I do not speak of these things usually.
I went to private school as a child and my husband grew up in Ireland – we live in the US and really had no idea what public schools were like so we did some research. My best friend (her father was a physician) went to the local public school and the differences between us by the sixth grade were huge: she was exposed to alcohol and smoking pot and had boyfriends starting in 6th grade. I was still playing with dolls until I was 12. Her father enrolled her in my school finally for high school and she and her friends were kicked out for drinking/bad behavior that we did not see in our school at all.
Another reason we feel strongly about private school probably has to do w. the fact that we are big fans of AMI Montessori – so our children go to an AMI Montessori that continues up through elementary school. Montessori uses the "follow the child" approach. The public school model is based on the traditional method of education, which was historically based on the industrial revolution's idea of the factory worker. So in public school every child pretty much learns the same thing at the same time according to what the teacher says, and also the teachers have to "teach to the test" so cannot veer from the day's lesson if needed – then when the bell rings – whether or not they've completed their work – they must move onto the next topic. In Montessori the kids are following their interest – there is freedom within limits. It doesn't work for everybody but from my perspective, it is amazing as these kids are really learning advanced concepts with manipulatives they can touch and feel. I just see a whole lot of time wasted in the traditional model of school, kids waiting around, lining up, preferring recess over reading a book or math.
The other thing that I like about private school is the sheltered environment we are in – children are children, bullying is nonexistent because this stuff is completely snuffed out by the culture of the school and the involved parents. Sure there are downsides to private schools including the cost and other things.
Anyway this is just my (very strong) opinion. I know that there are many wonderful public schools there and also charter schools too, but for our family it's definitely private.
Ginny Marie says
This was a very hard decision for us, since my husband and I both went to Lutheran schools and received an excellent education. But because of distance and finances, we finally decided to send our girls to our neighborhood public school.
ModernMom says
Oh that is a tough one! Our Kindergarten classes are capped at 21. 30 seems unimaginable!! We chose our home by picking the best public school in the area. HOWEVER, next year with a new principal, 3 fab teachers rumored to be leaving, we start to wonder, did we make the right choice? Should we have gone private? I think you have to make a decision based on this September and know you have the prerogative to change your mind down the road. Best of luck!
Our state has a cap. Well had. With massive teacher layoffs in Texas this year they are considering rewriting that cap law.
All my kids go to public school, but we are fortunate to live in a district that has top rate schools.
Of coure you know your child best and if you think he would benefit from private kindergarten…then you are probably right.
We send our kids to a public school and so far things are good but I sometimes I wonder if it was the right choice.
We aren't at that point yet, and I don't know what we'll do. Our public schools are fine, not great, which bothers me a little. But private school would put more than a small financial burden on our finances. It's going to be a tough decision. Ideally? We'd move to a better district and try public schools, but it's easy to say that with a 1 & 3 year old. I think it's important to do what you're doing and look at the individual child and his/her needs before making a decision.
Not Just Another Jennifer says
I hear you! We are struggling with this, too. DH went to Catholic school which he swore he would never do to his kids. Til we had some. 🙂 I won't go that route, but have looked into Montessori and other Christian schools. S LOVES to learn, but likes to do thing on her own timeline. And she doesn't do well in a large group of kids. For example, her preschool has 8 kids. Perfect. Sunday school, has about 20 and it's overwhelming for her. And they aren't even really in "school" there. But we can't afford private school. I'd love to homeschool, but I work full-time. We have one more year to figure out what to do. Best of luck in your decision-making!
Rachel @ The Lazy Christian says
While my son isn't old enough for school yet, this is something my husband and I have been talking about already.
I went to private school (a small Christian school) from preschool through 6th grade. I. Loved. It. I was a very early reader, and the principal (it was so small a school, the principal knew every kid by name) put me with a 1st grade class for reading while I was still in preschool. It was a nurturing environment with a lot of attention for each child, and I was in class with a lot of the same kids the whole time. My parents weren't super involved with me, so I got a lot of encouragement that I wouldn't have gotten elsewhere. It's also where I learned about Jesus, since I wouldn't have gotten that at home, either. It was exactly what I needed. I flourished, and when I got to public school in 7th grade, I was ahead of most of my classmates.
My husband went to public school and said it was fine, but since I've experienced both, I can tell you that I much preferred my private education, sheltered as it was. After all, I'm there for education and social skills, both of which I got in spades.
It is a hard decision to make between public and private school. I think it really does depend on the needs of the child.
I went to public school and did just fine. My husband went to private school and he also did just fine. The difference for us was that his father had passed away right before he was to go into school and his mom didn't want him to get lost in the public school system. I didn't have anything like that so my parents had no concerns about public school.
I think your gut is the thing that you go with. The public school that is literally about 40 steps from our front door is said to be one of the best in the area, my best friend teaches for the PA public school system and I know that they would get a good education at a public school. But I went to Parochial School from Preschool to 12th grade, and my husband went from K-8th. If we can swing it financially they are going to Catholic school, for lots fo reasons..that I would be happy to discuss with you off the board. 😉
I liked my small classes, everyone knowing me and having church being a part of my life instead of once a week etc…I think it's important if we are going to raise them Catholic…I don't know what's better, but my gut and John's too is saying Catholic for now.
You definitely have to do what feels right for your little man. As a teacher I am sure you have a pretty good insight into how he would cope with public or even private school. Good luck!
Maggie S. says
I have and ed degree. When I finished student teaching, I knew I would home school my own children. They attended private school for one year. And I brought them back home. Now we are getting ready for high school, and I find my girls are not hardened enough for the public school (transfers are not available) and I hear reports of SEVERE bullying in the private school.
I would go Montessori if I had it to do all over again.
Cindi says
Mine are all older now (early to late teens) but if I had to do it all over again, I'd choose private. Especially in the early (kindergarten/elementary) years.
First let me say I totally agree with Amy and everyone. Whether it's private or public school … You are your child's advocate and, you do have to do what's right for each child.
I think it's important to lay a solid foundation in the early years and that may be easier with a smaller (private) class size.
Something else to consider is "hugability". No disrespect to public teachers but, ask yourself; do you want a teacher who is made to feel they're one hug away from a nasty law suit and loosing their license? Or, do you want a teacher that teaches and has a few more freedoms to hug and nurture a child when hurt or needs an emotional boost?
Lots of things to consider when making a decision like this but it's one we've all made. Good luck and prayers. 🙂
my boys go to public… i was a catholic school girl.. but in all honesty finances decided for us
blueviolet says
We always bought our homes in the districts with the best public school systems because private tuition was never an option for us. Then we never had to worry.
Not a Perfect Mom says
we'd have to pick our favorite kid or the one we think will be a dr and send that one to private…
but seriously, I think no matter what everyone else tells you, it's your primal mama-ness that's going to make the right choice. If Bear needs that extra attention, and you think private is the way to go, then do it…
However, I will say this, as a mother with a special needs child. Where I live, Brooke wouldn't get the extra help she would need from private school, any sort of aides or therapy we'd have to pay extra for on top of tuition, whereas in the public school anything that is required and what I demand for her will have to be provided. And yes, she's only 14 mths old, but I've already accosted the principal at the elementary school and questioned her about school, as I've spoken to several private schools already…just to be ready..
So really babe, do your homework and do what you think is best…and remember-you're not married to the decision you make…at any time if it's not working you can switch…
Go with your mommy instinct – its usually right. I have already started contemplating this with Jellybean and I am evenly split right now. I will have to wait and see what our schools are like when it becomes time to enroll him but I'm not biased against either yet.
I started in public and moved to private in 3rd grade. The class size, my parents main reason for making the switch, definitely made a huge difference.
I started out in public school in 1st grade. I drowned there and would come home crying asking my mother why I was so stupid. She pulled me out and had me tested for a learning disability. We found out that I was Dyslexic. My mother found a private school that specialized in teaching Dyslexic children and I did a total 180 in school.
As for Sam I have a feeling she will have some learning disability because hubby has one too. Whether we send her to private or public school will depend of how badly she needs what and what we can afford at the time.
Ameena says
The whole school thing consumes me…we went with public for now and I constantly second guess my decision.
Go with your gut my friend! Whatever it tells you is the right thing to do.
So true! I often wonder where my own kids will end up some day 🙂
Twinisms says
I started my older set of twins in a private pre-K. We had a bad experience. Since then they have been in public. The girl has done great while the boy has struggled. My mistake was having the same expectations for 2 very different children. It's not a matter of public vs. private, but of your child and his needs. Good luck. You know best mom.
Hi there! I just found your blog, and now a new follower and excited to read more! I am a new stay at home mom with a 6 month old, so you are giving me a window into my future with more kids LOL!
And being a school teacher yourself, this decision would be even more grueling because you know what goes on in both the public and the private setting. Can't wait to read more though. I'm not worried, you're an extremely smart lady, you're choice will be the right one.
A Mommy in the City says
I was also a public school teacher and I want to send Harlan to public school. My husband went to private school his entire life and wants to send her to private school. Unfortunately in NYC private schools are incredibly expensive and hard to get into. I think it will come down to resources as well as her individual needs.
Wow! So many comments that I doubt you will get to mine, but I'll throw it out there anyway!
Our oldest has a September birthday and because he seemed as mature as his preschool peers and because he knew everything and then some that a child should know when starting k, we let him start at 4. His attention span was long. He would know many of the children starting when he did. We feared that if we held him back another year, he would be bored when he started. All of these things weighed into our decision.
It was middle school before we pulled him out and began homeschooling. Private school is not an option for us. Homeschooling has not been a success and he will be returning to public school in the fall. He is 15.
Our two younger sons both have November birthdays which put them pretty close to 6 when they started school. They THRIVE in the same public school that I felt failed our oldest son.
They are all raised in the same house with the same parents and have been taught by several of the same teachers. I offer the same amount of interaction and support for all the boys.
Is the age what made the difference? I'm not sure. There are many things I'd do differently and holding him out for 1 more year is definitely one of them.
Lady Mama says
We're not at that stage yet (our oldest is in preschool) but I agree that the decision has to be based around the child. Ideally I'd rather send my kids to public school, but if for some reason that wasn't working, I'd look at other options.
priscilla - the wheelchairmommy says
we went public. I love his teacher and the school but my gut told me he needed home from day one (I know not on your horizon, but still …)
I should have gone with my gut. It's always right.
I know we have had limited talks about this subject. I agree that every kids has different needs as far as schooling goes. I have spent the last 18 months searching for a good choice for 6th grade for Ahna, to no avail. My 1st choice would be the Montessori charter school, but it has a waiting list longer than the road from here to your house and only goes through 8th grade. Only you and Hubs know what Bear needs. Trust your gut, Mama. Love you.
Loukia says
Hmm. A touch choice to make, for sure. We had a tough time deciding between Montessori and my son's school, a Catholic school, (in the public school system.) Monessori is really great, though. I love their teaching method and how children learn. And I think small classrooms are KEY especially at the kindergarten stage. The right teacher makes all the difference, too. Good Luck!
Miss K currently goes to public school and she is in the second grade. I have had mixed feelings about it and Little E is going into preschool this fall.
I have considered home schooling actually, since Private school is not an option financially for us. Academically, Miss K is a smart child, but she is so easily distracted that she needs a smaller class size. She is in a co taught class with 36 kids and I feel it's a bit overwhelming. I am going to have her attend public school again this fall and if she continues to struggle with behavior even in a regular class then I will have to make some serious decisions.
Personally, I plan on homeschooling her during for middles school grades 6-8 and re enrolling her for high school. The schools here are not the best.
Missy says
"It's about what each individual child needs." You said exactly what one of tenets of the Montessori philosophy. Our oldest spent 6 years in a Montessori school and our youngest will spend about the same amount of time. We have loved it. the educational foundation, independence and love of learning it promotes has made a real difference in our kid's lives.
WhisperingWriter says
My kids have gone and will go to public school.
If we had the money, perhaps I'd do private. As it is, we don't. So public it is. I went to public school and I turned out okay. Sort of.
This is such a great topic/post. Every kiddo is SO different…even within the same family. You shouldn't feel guilty at all about either direction you go. It comes down to what is best for each individual child. On another note…sorry I've been absent lately. I love to come here…I'm usually "Johnny on the spot" but lately…well, I'm a hot mess!!
Mommy Shorts says
I live in NYC so this decision is about to be a very big one starting with preschools next year. It will come down to money more than anything else.
But FYI, my sister, who is a developmental psychologist is a BIG BIG fan of Montessori schools.
You'll make the right choice cause you're a good mom!
In this tiny town its either public school or homeschool. And I certainly dont have the patience for homeschool!
I understand your decision. I will pray that the right choice makes itself clear to you and you're husband. I know you guys will do your best for your Bear.
I agree 100% that it's not about what's the perfect choice for all, it's about what's best for your child. The classroom size here is a huge reason why we HS. My oldest really struggled in that setting.
I will be praying for your decision. I know it's hard to make them! Bear is blessed to have a mommy who recognizes his needs!
heidi @ wonder woman wannabe says
yep, most definately case by case and kid by kid basis.
we chose a private school for our kindergarten age son mostly because of the neighborhood we live in.
we live in a VERY urban atmosphere yet this God centered school is planted right smack dab in the middle of it (on purpose) the school is a mission and a ministry. the school leaders are committed to making enrollment possible to even the lowest of incomes. they raise money, have child sponsors from all over the state and base fees on income as well. It's really an amazing opportunity. Oh, and the classrooms are never larger than 20 students and each classroom has a teaching assistant.
if we were living in the 'burbs we might not feel the need to send him here – but it's less than a mile away from our home, so why not!
There are a TON of school to choose from here in Minneapolis (charter, public and private) and it's all open enrollment, so it's actually a bit overwhealming to try to decide.
Also, I worked in a Montessori classroom and even though it was a very positive experience, I wouldn't say EVERY kid should have that type of education either. Same thing – depends on the kid. There were some kids in our class that really trived and others that I think would have benefitted from a bit more structure. Kids really need to be naturally self motivated and curious about their environment to get the most out of a montessori method of schooling. (in my humble opinion) 🙂
In the end it really comes down to what is best for your child. We haven't had to worry about public vs. private, but it is there. When our expatriation ends next year and we have to send our son to school we have no idea what to do.
Shell: With school choice around here, I visited each one. One public seemed like a good fit, but we decided to go with a very small Christian school for my youngest. I homeschool my 2 middle boys. I am all about homeschooling, I have been doing it for 9 years. But, each child has different needs and the smart parent will seek God's direction for each child.
I had to think about this one for awhile as it is such a personal choice. We send our children to private school, but it is a debate my husband and I have been having for years. I went to private school my entire life. It was a struggle for my parents to afford it for all five of us, but well worth it in the end. My husband did a combo of private and public. My education was excellent. His subpar (but so were his parent). In the end, our decision came down to religion. I wanted our children in an enviroment that mirrored the same values I teach at home. It is not always perfect, but I am pleased with their education…academically, spiritually and emotionally.
I know you will figure out what is best for your children and your family!
I went public school and believe in it yet I send my kids to private.
For six years I have battled to keep them there not because I was concerned about the education but because of the price.
It has been wonderful for them but the cost for their parents has been significant and in some ways extends beyond financial.
Sage would've been a young five, but after much agonizing – MUCH agonizing – we held her a year. She will start kindergarten a few days before her 6th birthday.
Academics wasn't the issue. She was reading before she started pre-k. It was purely for social/maturity issues. And not even so much for now. What about high school, when all the kids (boys) would be so much older? Or when she competes to get into college?
She'd have been fine had we sent her this year. But we don't want her to be fine. We want her to be a leader.
BTW, there were 34 kids in Sawyer's K class last year and 32 in first grade.
I think you do what's best for each child. You know Bear better than anyone. I know you'll make the right decision.
HC says
Good luck with your decision. It's so hard to decide and know exactly whats best for each child. Go with your gut!
I don't envy that you must make this decision. It is a difficult one, but it sounds as if you've have weighed all the possibilities and scenarios.
My youngest will start Kindergarten next year in the public school system. I love the district…my 8 year old is in 3rd grade. What worries me is that she'll be going from a pre-K classroom of 15 to a K classroom of about 22. That's a big transition for such a little one to make.
Go with your gut. You won't regret it.
Holy comments, Batman!!! You know I struggle with this with the Crazies being born in August…12 days before the cut-off. Amazingly enough, I too have considered the private school option…and I'm a public school teacher too!
Then Husband said I could go work at a private school and our tuition wouldn't be so out of hand…he's kind of got a point there.
One of my tutoring students said that she really likes private school b/c of the class size. She says that she feels like she's held accountable and not ignored. I can totally see her point after spending years in a public school classroom. They're not all like that, but a lot are.
Tough choice…good luck.
You know best, momma, and I think it's wonderful you're treating each child differently depending on his needs. I've had friends who were teachers with Montessori schools and have only heard excellent things. Whatever you decide, trust that you are making the right decision. XOXO
Also DANG! There are a lot of comments here. But I'm #100! WOOOOP 🙂
We 2 Bees says
I totally believe you have to make the choice based on the need of each child. And it's good that you are a parent who realizes that and is willing to make decisions outside of the norm. We are in public school, and I'm a super involved parent. I am always making sure we are making the best decision for each child. We held my middle son back a year because we would have been the baby 5 year old and we didn't start him until he was 6 (now the old guy) but for him it was the best decision and people just didn't get it!
You are making great choices for your boys and I'm sure you will continue doing so!
Krystyn says
Totally about the kid.
Ours are October birthdays (both of them) adding an entire other element. And, we've waited until the last minute to decide, and I'm confident, that if it isn't the right one, we can always make the switch.
I actually wrote about it recently,too here (hope you don't mind the link since it's relevant).
http://www.myatlantamoms.com/2011/public-vs-private-the-school-debate


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**Monday's menu** Red sauce with hamburger. Pasta. Steamed broccoli.
**Convenience** Went for ease over effort tonight. Thawed homemade sauce, boiled water.
**Tuesday's menu** Choose-your-own-adventure-noodle soup. Japanese broth. Unadulterated broth. Egg noodles. Rice noodles. Chopped scallions. Fried cabbage with carrots, tofu and ginger.
**Inspiration** Made a huge fresh pot of turkey stock. Nope, not vegetarian, but I'm a big believer in broth. So I buy bones and make stock and freeze it for soups and such.
**Cabbage** There were complaints over the cabbage/carrot stir-fry again. Thing is, we've got a lot of cabbage and carrots ... and not much else. 'Tis March. The "hungry" month, I've seen it described. I promised to make a coleslaw next time with the next cabbage.
**mini-recipe** Japanese broth: Eight cups of stock, 1/2 cup tamari sauce, 4 tbsp sugar, salt to taste. Heat to boiling. Serve over noodles. At the table, sprinkle individual bowls with scallions, hot pepper flakes, and Chinese five-spice, to taste.
**Wednesday's menu** Lentil curry (crockpot). Baked rice.
**Convenience, again** It took a bit of effort during the breakfast hour, but lentils + crockpots = easy. And then I went out for supper (with my sibs) and didn't even taste the meal I'd made. Albus told me it was pretty good and he'd had two bowls. There seem, however, to be a lot of leftovers.
**Thursday's menu** Leftover noodles fried with leftover cabbage and tofu.
**Thanks Kevin** Over the supper prep hour, I took AppleApple to her goalie training, and did some secondhand shopping. It was nice to return home to a tasty meal; I rarely object to reinvigorated leftovers.
**Friday's menu** Leftover lentil curry. Leftover rice. Fresh baguette.
**Guess what?** That lentil curry did taste pretty good. It definitely hit the spot after a run/soccer practice. This menu was a little light on the veggies, however.
**Cooking with kids** Albus's menu. Crepes with maple syrup, and strawberries and blueberries from the freezer. Bacon. Breakfast sausages. Baguette.
**Mmmmm** Some small debate over what to call breakfast-for-dinner. Brupper was roundly rejected. Albus thought it should simply be called brunch. Whatever it is, it was delicious and there were no leftovers. Not a scrap.


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I have a scheme for stopping war. It's this- no nation is allowed to enter a war till they have paid for the last one.
When you get into trouble five thousand miles from home, you've got to have been looking for it.
It's awful hard to get people interested in corruption unless they can get some of it.
All we hear is 'What's the matter with the country?' 'What's the matter with the world?' There ain't but one thing wrong with every one of us in the world, and that's selfishness.
So much money is being spent on the campaigns that I doubt if either man, as good as they are, are worth what it will cost to elect them.
Lincoln didn't have a foreign policy. That's why he's Lincoln.
Every nation must have its legalized form of gambling. We have our Wall Street.
Nothing will upset a state economic condition like a legislature. It's better to have termites in your house than the legislature.
The crime of taxation is not in the taking of it, it's in the way that it's spent.
There's the one thing no nation can ever accuse us of and that is secret diplomacy. Our foreign dealings are an open book. Generally a checkbook.
This country has gotten where it is in spite of politics, not by the aid of it. That we have carried as much political bunk as we have and still survived shows we are a super nation.
This country is bigger than Wall Street. If they don't believe it, show 'em the map.
Well, they finally stopped us from sending marines to every war that we could hear of. They are having one in Afghanistan. The thing will be over before Congress can pronounce it, much less find out where it is located.
When I die, my epitaph or whatever you call those signs on gravestones is going to read: 'I joked about every prominent man of my time, but I never met a man I didn't like.' I am so proud of that I can hardly wait to die so it can be carved. And when you come to my grave you will find me sitting there, proudly reading it.
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A Journey to the Disneyland: From Oswald to Cinderella. Walt Disney and His Personal Demons Analytical Essay
Walter Disney and his life have always been a mystery even to the contemporaries, not to mention the researchers of the XXI century.
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A creator, innovator, and genius, on the one hand, and a panic-stricken perfectionist, on the other hand, Disney had a number of issues, which were predisposed by the cringe inducting factors that Disney was exposed to throughout his entire life, which such theories as the Five-Factor Model of Personality, Intrapsychic Factors (Interpersonal Theory) and Neurobehavioral Dimensional Model may help define.
By taking a closer look at some of the peculiarities of the environment in which Disney lived at different stages of his life in, one can possibly define the source of the major disorders that Disney had, as well as spot the manifestations of these disorders in some of the works of the great animator.
As it has been stressed above, the research is going to be carried out with the help of such theories as the Neurobehavioral Dimensional Model, Intrapsychic Factors, which belong to the Interpersonal Theory realm, and to Five-Factor Model, which can be described as one of the subcategories of the Theory of Personality Disorder.
Granted that the theories listed above have been tested a number of times and are considered full-fledged basis for conducting significant researches nowadays, it is important to keep in mind that, according to Lenzenweger and Clarkin, first, a number of factors affecting the psychological development of an individual have not been defined, and, second, due to the unique reactions that an individual may display when coming into contact with certain factors (Lenzenweger & Clarkin, 2004), detecting the source of a certain psychological feature or disorder, or even a trait of character is quite problematic.
That being said, it can be assumed that the theories in question can possibly shed some light on how Disney's personality was shaped and how the process of his personality development affected his art.
Walt Disney: A man who helped dreams come true (2010).
There is no secret that, fort the most part, the basis for the character features that most people acquire when they are well past their adolescence is usually created in the early childhood, when the impressions from the elements of everyday life are far too colorful to be forgotten.
After a careful examination of the environment in which Disney spent his childhood years, one will inevitably spot the points at which the key traits of the Disney that everyone knows and loves started to evolve.
According to what the existing sources say, Disney was born into a family of Elias and Flora Call Disney and their five children. Originally born in Chicago, Walter moved to Marceline (MI) soon after he was born. Developing love for nature and animals, he started drawing.
However, not everything went smoothly in the family of the Disneys. It turned out that Flora was suffering from a mental condition. When Walter was a teenager, his family suffered from fire (supposedly set by Flora), with Walt being the only survivor and sent to his uncle.
At the given point, one could observe the Five-Factor Model coming into motion, since the character traits predisposed by the aforementioned environment, in which Disney's childhood and youth were spent, were finally developed by that point.
It is quite impressive that the FFM model, which is usually applied very loosely to a real-life example, since in most cases, the factors are far too numerous, or the effects of these factors vary too much in their intensity for the recipient's character traits to correlate to each of the aforementioned factors to the same extent, in the case of Disney, the major events that caused specific character traits to develop are pretty easy to define.
As the existing sources say, Disney was known for his readiness to experiment, which he displayed since his childhood. However, weirdly enough, the experiences that he was eagerly awaiting could best be described as financial instead of artistic, though these experiences definitely had a sparkle of creativity in them; using his artistic skills, Disney was earning his first wages by selling his drawings to neighbors.
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However, such qualities as the spirit of enterprise and ambitiousness, which his openness to experience spurred in young Disney would, later on, transform into artistic creativity and the ability to take risks, which a number of modern entrepreneurs should definitely look into.
For example, it was well known before Disney even started working on his first short that the character that he would focus on would be a bunny named Oswald. In fact, a few shorts released at the very beginning of his career featured Oswald. However, at some point, Disney decided to take chances with a brand new character, which little to no authors used before, i.e., a mouse.
The story of the character's name, in fact, also represents Disney's willingness to experiment, which manifested itself in his ability to take a piece of advice from a person whom he trusted; as the existing source say, first, the mouse was named Mortimer, yet Disney's wife considered the name far too pretentious and suggested turning Mortimer into Mickey.
Walt Disney was a relatively conscientious man – for a businessman, at the very least.
One of the qualities that the given feature of his character manifested itself in, incredible ability to work long hours with no stop for a quick lunch or a short nap was one of the many factors that, ironically enough, predetermined the development of a further neurosis, as the analysis carried out with the help of the Neurobehavioral Dimensional Model will show in the next section of the research.
The key qualities that Disney's relatively high conscientiousness rates produced concerned his devotion to his profession and the willingness to produce the works that could be considered as coming of age stories, as well as help children learn important life lessons while being entertained by his animated movies.
Ironically enough, being such an extrovert, Disney seemed to have little to no close friends; true, he had a number of business partners, a couple of rivals, and an entire army of fan all over the world, yet very few people actually knew what only close friends could know about him, like his favorite color, the dish that he hated most, etc.
To be more exact, Disney tended to be extravert when it came to discussing everything but himself; as soon as the latter topic was touched upon, his introversion was being pushed to the breaking point, where it bordered reclusion.
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As a result, in accordance with the basic principles of the Five-Factor Model, Disney has clearly developed such skills and the ability to communicate his idea clearly, the skill of being a good listener, as well as the ability to take an active part in a conversation.
However, Disney clearly used these skills only to be able to integrate into the bohemian society of the United States and was not striving for communication with the people surrounding them.
In spite of the fact that he was not quite open to communication in the generally accepted meaning of the word, Disney seemed to have developed high tendency to empathize with other people, which must have stemmed from the fact that he needed compassion himself, having obvious family issues since childhood. As a result, Disney was often considered a man with a very big heart – and he clearly was.
Being a kid at heart, he would empathize with children, especially; as one of Disney's contemporaries, Jimmy McDonald, recalled, "He had a great understanding for the youngsters…" (Disney History Institute, n. d.). In fact, the Disney History Institute provides a tape recording with McDonald reminiscing on one of the cases when Disney's appreciation for children and young people was outpouring:
Once… they had all the storyboards around and dialogue written underneath so Walt could see it and give it the go ahead. The storyboard director was out there with his little baton and said, 'At this point narrator will say, "When all the kids get a new bike…".
And Walt jumped up, and said, "No! We won't get close to that. We'll just say when the kids get a bike, because there will be too many kids in this world that will never get a bike." (Disney History Institute, n. d.)
Sadly enough, along with being extremely creative, Disney was highly exposed to various irritants, which resulted in numerous neuroses.
To top it all, many of his childhood fears have not been vanquished as time passed, but, instead, were piling up until they were released in the shape of numerous fears. It is quite peculiar that, in contrast to other features of his character, neuroticism and the resulting phobias stemmed from Disney's later experiences.
It is remarkable how the given model not only represents the way in which Disney's past affected his present and future, but also addresses the issues that shaped Disney's character as an adult.
To be more exact, the change of environment, which occurred as Disney's childhood ended and he had to enter the adult world triggered a change in the FFM model, therefore, affecting Disney's character. As the recent data shows, several breakdowns that Walt Disney had in his adult life were the result of intense and extremely hard work with unbelievably short deadlines.
A very common myth says that Disney was afraid of mice, which is also very peculiar, considering the fact that his main character and the icon of the Disney production is a mouse. However, as credible sources explain, the given statement does not hold any water – in fact, it is historically documented that Disney owned a pet mouse.
However, another peculiar rumor about what Walt Disney feared, the statement regarding Disney's uncontrollable fear of falling ill appears to be true. The given fact makes it clear that, no matter how hard Disney tried to repress his childhood fears, they still came back in the weirdest shapes possible, altering his life to the point where his genius bordered insanity.
When it comes to analyzing the events that led to Disney's death, the fact that Disney neglected one of the basic rules of healthcare comes to the forth. The man who was obsessed with blocking the way for numerous bacteria and viruses to his organism died of smoking-induced lung tumor.
Although at first glance, the given fact shatters the Neurobehavioral Dimensional Model implications to pieces, on a second thought, one must admit that the given fact aligns with the basic postulates of the theory perfectly well. Indeed, if considering smoking as one of the few outlets for Disney's unceasing stress, it can be assumed that smoking was used by Disney as an affiliative reward that would help him bring the stress level down.
With all due respect to Walt Disney's life and the incredible power of his imagination, when watching his greatest creations, one must admit that, for the most part, these characters were the projections of Walter's insecurity onto the big screen.
When analyzing the given characters, one might notice a pattern of Disney's issues development based on the qualities that his characters represented; and, seeing how, for the most part, the leading characters portrayed by Disney displayed their qualities through interaction with other characters, it can be assumed that, with the help of the former, Disney managed to convey the issues that he faced when coming into contact with other people.
Walt Disney and Mickey Mouse.
Being the "punching bag that laughs," Mickey Mouse can be seen as Disney's alter ego; however, it is worth keeping in mind that the given character replaced a much more violent Oswald, the Rabbit character.
In fact, the early sketches of Mickey Mouse wee not very child-friendly, either. Therefore, it can be assumed that, by introducing the character of Mickey to the audience, Walt Disney was trying to give vent to his aggressive feelings.
The first full-length animated movie to be featured in the U.S. period, this is Disney's doubtless triumph.
However, when looking at the characters closer, one will be able to spot the fact that Snow White's childhood had a lot in common with the one of Disney – both were orphans, both had to put up with the difficulties of adoption, and both knew exactly what they wanted, Snow White singing, "I'm wishing (I'm wishing) for the one I love to find me (to find me) today (today)" (Disney & Hand, 1937) and Disney saying, "All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them" (Bickford, 2013, p. 56).
Of the very few male leading characters featured in the animated movies of the Golden Disney Era, Peter Pan must have been the essence of what Disney always wanted to be – a child at heart with the wildest imagination and the opportunity to play as much as he wanted. It can be assumed that Peter Pan was a dream of the childhood that Disney never had.
The entire world has no room for hatred spilled on Walt Disney by thousands of feminists for creating this character. Indeed, Cinderella is pretty bland, and there is hardly any character development throughout the entire movie. She wants a handsome prince, does nothing to achieve her goal, and then, a fairy godmother comes out of nowhere to grant her wishes.
However, as much flawed as the given character is, thinking that there is nothing more to her that the blandness that allows every single girl to associate herself with the given character means ignoring Disney's famous quote saying that Cinderella "believed in dreams, all right, but she also believed in doing something about them.
When Prince Charming didn't' come along, she went over to the palace and got him" (Fisher, 2012, n. p.). The given specifics of the character displays the exact same pattern as the one that Disney preferred in building his relationships with the rest of the world; likewise, he preferred to grab the bull by the horns and handle the obstacles that life put in front of him.
Disney's education is a perfect proof for his consistence and efforts; in spite of a dropout in his teenage years, Disney managed to not only get the basic knowledge and skills, but also graduate from three Universities instead of one, i.e., UCLA, the Harvard University and Yale (Wasko, 2013, p. 1948).
Therefore, the characters created by Disney reveal a lot about his character and psychological issues. Being a projection of his childhood problems onto the cartoonish reality, they could be seen as a coping mechanism.
Apart from inspiration and incredible lust for life, Disney acquired a number of fears under the influence of the environment that he was exposed to in his youth and adult life.
At the given point, the theory of Neurobehavioral Dimensional Model is going to be used in order to arrange the constraints that played the most important part in shaping Disney's personality, as well as the incentive or anxiety that these constraints resulted in. As Depue explains, the process of behavioral change occurs in accordance with the following pattern:
Depue, R. A. (2009). Figure 1. A multidimensional model of personality disturbance. In Depue, R. A. Genetic, environmental, and epigenetic factors in the development of personality disturbance. Development and Psychopathology, 21, p. 1033.
As it has been mentioned, the life of a great animator, though definitely exiting, was incredibly intense, which led to the development of a neurosis and, therefore, affected his behavior considerably.
Despite the fact that Disney was not afraid of mice, as the popular urban legend says, it must be admitted that the great artist did have a number of phobias, with the credit of the greatest of them going to the phenomenon known as bacteriophobia.
Washing his hands thoroughly every moment when a piece of soap and a towel were in the vicinity, Walt Disney soon became famous not only as the creator of Mickey Mouse, but also as one of the most psychotically neat people in the studio.
As the existing historical records show, Disney was literally obsessed with cleanness, as well as a bunch of other American celebrities, such as Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, etc.: "Afflicted with OCD as was Howard Hughes, Walt Disney, Frank Sinatra and Donald Trump, he [Elvis] brushed his teeth over and over" (Landrum, 2007, p. 54).
As one might have noticed, Landrum goes as far as claiming that Disney suffered from an OCD, i.e., an obsessive-compulsive disorder. While the given statement might be seen as quite a stretch, it is still necessary to keep in mind that bacteriophobia was not the only reason for the animator to wash his hands for no obvious reasons; as Landrum states, for Disney, it was the means to get rid of the stress that he was constantly under.
The aforementioned fact reveals another facet of a nearly psychotic mind that Disney was at the time when he reached the peak of his success. With the fear of getting ill and suffering the following failure as a professional, Disney was clearly under two neural constraints, the latter clearly being the dominant one.
As a result, his rate of rejection sensitivity was dangerously high, which led him to another threat of a nervous breakdown. In other words, with a Multidimensional Model of Personality, the psychological pressure that Disney was under could be depicted in the following way:
Figure 2. Genetic, environmental, and epigenetic factors in Walt Disney's personality disturbance.
The given scheme shows explicitly that Disney was affected by two stress factors, one of which (the fear of bacteria and contracting a virus) was induced by another one (the fear of receiving negative critical responses and failing as a creator and animator).
It could be argued, naturally, that the given disturbances did not bother Disney as a professional – quite on the contrary, these aspects of his personality made him excel in every single work that he crafted, turning each of his fairytales into an animation masterpiece.
However, casting a single glance at Disney's personal life and phobias that his life was literally filed with, one will inevitably realize that his animation was practically the only field that offered him a moment of relief.
According to the results of the given assessment, Disney did have a number of issues concerning his psychological evolution, and most of these issues were detected with the help of the Neurobehavioral Dimensional Model, Five-Factor Model of Personality and Intropsychic Factors.
It could be argued, though, that what has been discovered or proven after the given models have been applied is only the tip of the iceberg and that Walt Disney's personality was far more complex and curious than what has been detected and analyzed with the help of the models and theories in question.
However, as far as the application of the given models goes, the given research shows clearly that they can be used efficiently as the means to locate the sources of a person's psychological issues.
Despite his image of an audience-pleasing sentimentalist with an edge and a creator of heartwarming family movies, Walt Disney definitely had his cupboard full of skeletons. It could be argued, of course, that the fears of his were the defining factor in his creativity, seeing how most of Disney feature-length movies and shorts incorporate similar features and elements.
Analyzed from several perspectives, Disney's personality appeared to be influenced greatly by certain disorders, such as several acute phobias and neuroses, which were induced by several outside factors that Walt Disney was exposed to as a child, adolescent and adult, as explained by the theories of five factors, intrapsychic factors, and neurobehavioral dimensional model, and which shaped Disney's life and career, making him one of the weirdest, most mysterious and by far the most creative people of the century.
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Genetic Variation for Objective and Subjective Measures of Fresh Fruit Color in Strawberries
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The heritabilities of, and genetic correlations among, variables that describe internal and external color in fresh strawberry (Fragaria × anarrassa) fruit were estimated using factorial analyses of seedlings from 20 controlled crosses. Hunter L and a values, and a subjective score generated by comparison with color plates were obtained for seedling genotypes and their parents at two locations. Genetic effects were responsible for 33% to 61% of the phenotypic variance for color traits, after correction for location effects. Means for objective color variables differed significantly between locations, but means for subjective color scores did not. Genetic × location interaction variances were usually nonsignificant, and were < 12% of the phenotypic variance for all variables. Phenotypic and genetic correlations between objective and subjective color scores were significant and large (absolute values of r = 0.42-0.69; rg = 0.84-1.00). Multiple regression of subjective scores on L and a explained 69% and 59% of the phenotypic variation for external and internal color, respectively. Genetic correlations between measures of internal and external color were small and mostly nonsignificant, suggesting that separate sets of genes condition these traits.
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A bit of intellectual property indiscretion has led to the retraction of a paper by Korean scientists. Although the details are fuzzy, several of the authors are affiliated with a Korean pharma company called SK.
The paper, "A Novel Carbamoyloxy Arylalkanoyl Arylpiperazine Compound (SKL-NP) Inhibits Hyperpolarization-Activated Cyclic Nucleotide-Gated (HCN) Channel Currents in Rat Dorsal Root Ganglion Neurons," was published in the The Korean Journal of Physiology & Pharmacology earlier this year.
We would like to request a retraction of our paper  entitled, "A novel carbamoyloxy arylalkanoyl arylpiperazine compound (SKL-NP) inhibits hyperpolarization-activated cyclic nucleotide-gated (HCN) channel currents in rat dorsal root ganglion neurons" by Gehoon Chung, Tae-hyung Kim, Hyewon Shin, Eunhee Chae, Hanju Yi, Hongsik Moon, Hyun Jin Kim, Joong Soo Kim, Seog Bae Oh, from The Korean Journal of Physiology & Pharmacology. Vol 16 (4) 237-241, 2012.
We regret to inform that the published paper included a few parts that disclosed confidential information which should have been protected under patent law. We admit that the request for retraction is due to the indiscretion of the authors, and confirmed that editorial committee of KJPP have not conducted any fault in publishing the paper.
a novel and non-sedating analgesics for neuropathic pain. Through Phase I studies, SKL-NP demonstrated good PK, safety and tolerability. To prove its excellent efficacy potential in humans, SK is planning for POC (proof of concept) studies in various neuropathic pain indications.
This work was supported by the research fund of Hanyang University.
Well that's ridiculous. All they've achieved by retracting it is that they've drawn more attention to it & the fact that it contains spicy details. Should have left it alone and hoped noone noticed.
A retraction in that form was probably necessary to prevent the article being cited as prior art against a patent application. No idea whether that strategy actually works — it's not my area — but it makes sense. Even if no one else noticed, SK would have a duty to inform the patent examiner of relevant prior art, so any breach of confidentiality would have to be dealt with clearly and openly.


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Throughout the history of the United States Congress, some members were elected either as representatives and/or senators from more than one U.S. state at different times in their career.

Multiple states in the House

Multiple states in the Senate
Only two senators have represented more than one state.
James Shields uniquely served terms in the US Senate for three states; representing Illinois (1849–55), Minnesota (1858–59), and 20 years later he was appointed by the State of Missouri for a term expiring in just six weeks (1879). He was a Democrat.
Waitman T. Willey was a Restored Government of Virginia Senator (1861–1863) who helped create West Virginia. He was then appointed as one of the new state's first two senators (1863–1871). He was a Unionist until 1865 and a Republican thereafter.

One state in the House, another in the Senate

Territories and states
 William Henry Harrison – the future president of the United States was a delegate to the 6th United States Congress from Northwest Territory (1799–1800), resigning to become territorial Governor of Indiana. He returned to Congress first as a representative from Ohio's 1st congressional district (1816–19), and then serving an incomplete term as senator for Ohio (1825–28), resigning to become U.S. Minister Plenipotentiary to Gran Colombia. He was a Whig.
 James M. Cavanaugh – represented Minnesota (1858–59) as a representative and then Montana Territory (1867–71) as a delegate. He was a Democrat.
 Stephen Benton Elkins – represented New Mexico Territory (1873–77) as a delegate and later West Virginia (1895–1911) as a senator. He was a Republican.
 John Noble Goodwin – represented Maine as a representative (1861–63) and later Arizona Territory as a delegate (1866–76). He was also first governor of the Territory of Arizona. He was a Republican.
 George Wallace Jones – was a delegate from Michigan Territory (1835–37) until Michigan was created as a State. He continued representing the remaining renamed Wisconsin Territory as a delegate (1837–39). Later, after Iowa was carved from the Wisconsin Territory and subsequently admitted to the union, he became one of the first senators from Iowa (1848–59). He was a Democrat.
 Richard Cunningham McCormick  – represented Arizona Territory (1869–75) and later New York as a representative (1895–97). He was a Unionist as a delegate and a Republican as a representative.
 Henry Hastings Sibley – represented Wisconsin Territory (1848–49) and later Minnesota Territory as a delegate (1849–53). He was a Democrat.
 Jesse B. Thomas – represented Indiana Territory (1808–09) as a delegate and later Illinois (1818–1829) as a senator. He was initially a Democratic-Republican, but became an Anti-Jacksonian while senator.
 William H. Wallace – represented Washington Territory (1861–63) and later Idaho Territory as a delegate (1864–65). He was a Republican.

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