(Laughter) A lot of people tend to think that good design is just a matter of taste, and quite honestly, sometimes it is, actually, but sometimes it isn't, all right?
(Tertawa) Banyak orang berpikir bahwa desain yang bagus hanya berkaitan dengan persoalan selera, dan jujur saja, terkadang itu benar meskipun terkadang tidak, Iya kan?