VV: Leaks are not good, but if it's a leak that's happening, it's not that bad because if it was really bad you wouldn't know it, again, but -- you know, fire in the capsule, that wouldn't be good either, but it's actually a very safe submersible.
VV: Kebocoran itu buruk, tapi bila kebocoran yang terjadi, tidaklah begitu buruk karena bila sangat buruk lagi-lagi, Anda tidak akan tahu, tapi Anda tahu, api dalam kapsul, itu juga berbahaya, tapi kapal selam ini betul-betul sangat aman