Because he said to me that he felt like the geese -- and he proved this actually, not just a conceit, he proved this -- the geese felt manipulated when they were imprisoned in their little paddocks.
Karena dia bilang pada saya dia merasa seperti angsa-angsa itu -- dan dia membuktikannya, tidak hanya tebakan, dia membuktikan ini -- angsa-angsa itu merasa diperdaya ketika mereka dipenjara dalam pekarangan mereka.