(Laughter) Now of course, there's a difference between the male perception and the female perception and of trans and those who are in between, all of those as well, and outside of the gender spectrum.
(Tertawa) Sekarang tentu saja, ada perbedaan antara persepsi pria dan persepsi wanita dan trans dan mereka yang ada di antaranya, semua itu juga, dan di luar spektrum gender.