But then I suffered a series of career catastrophes, one after the other, and finally found myself in television. (Laughter) I said that to Bill Moyers, and he said, \"Oh, we take anybody.\" (Laughter) And I was doing some rather controversial religious programs.
Tetapi kemudian saya mengalami serangkaian kegagalan karir, satu demi satu, hingga akhirnya saya muncul di televisi. (Tawa) Saya katakan ini pada Bill Moyers, dan dia bilang, \"Kami terima siapa saja.\" (Tawa) Saya membuat program TV keagamaan yang agak kontroversial.