So we went for a walk on the beach and I said, well, give me one of your big problems. Give me a design challenge, sustainability speed bump, that's keeping you from being sustainable.
Lalu kami pergi ke pantai dan saya berkata, baiklah, beri saya masalah besar kalian. Beri saya tantangan desain, rintangan kelestarian, yang menghalangi Anda mengusahakan kelestarian.