I knew about this for years before more people started bringing it up.<br><br>What's even stupider is that all these subsidies and tax breaks for electric vehicles to help the environment ironically benefit the rich.,(reply>), @trevor Wilkinson i agree to cut down plastic. If everyone just hold on to their phone 5 years or more, use your own bag at grocery, and so on. People trade everything for quantity and convenience.,(reply>), @Arc plastics and rubber and other oil products make up a small fraction of what oil is used for. 75% is used in fuel and burned only 8-10% is used for plastics. Also synthetic oils and plant produced oils can be used to make plastics and rubber. We need to move away from oil so that it is not essential.,(reply>), Those subsidies also trick people into believing that EVs are cheaper than they really are. If the fuel based vehicles are removed from the roads then two compounding things will happen:<br>1. the nice subsidies will disappear, and;<br>2. all the lovely tax money that is used to build and maintain roads will be reallocated to EV's,<br>revealing the true cost of EV's.,(reply>), @trevor Wilkinson I understand that but Brandon destroying those industries isn't the solution according to those globalists.,(reply>), @trevor WilkinsonSure but I can at least say oil is essential not only for fuel but for a lot of plastics, rubber. You can't go without those things.