I run 4 alpha w/ 2 sentry with 3k firearms, 475k toughness, and 28k skill. I use a shotgun with deadly brutal responsive accurate destructive and ferocious, it's shreds in pvp and pve. I also run a mp7 and August with similar talents, the mp7 kills people instantly when I land head shots !!,(reply>), Nice, yeah AB has a huge amount of potential and hearing about some of the new builds with it has been awesome. Thanks for the feedback and support man,(reply>), Aug*