Seeing Lex play chess makes me feel a lot better about myself :D,(reply>), @Simon the truth? Neither science nor chess can give you the truth. Wtf?,(reply>), ​@iorekby Sure. I made the same observation and have 2000+ Elo myself.<br><br>Sometimes I think it's the sign of a smart person to never actually take chess too seriously and hence get good at it. It's a rabbit hole at the bottom of which there might just not be enough reward for oneself and society to justify the countless hours of studying needed to become any good. <br><br>People can spend their whole life on chess and still suck in comparison to even the cheapest mobile device. At the highest level, chess involves so much stupid memorization of opening variants, it's ridiculous. The late Bobby Fischer came to the same conclusion I think.<br><br>A career in science is I think a lot more fruitful and not the least less exciting for somebody searching for the truth.,(reply>), Lex is a smarter man than I'll ever be, but once again this flies in the face of the old cliche of "People who are great at math and engineering are automatically great chess players, and great chess players are automatically great at math"<br><br>I've been involved with a chess club for a long time and have played against formidable players, with ELOs around 2000, who struggled with High school math. <br><br>You can of course be great at both, but like I said it's a silly cliche rather than a sensible observation.