Bought a 10400F yesterday with a H410M mobo for "dirt cheap". I know the 11400F would be better if I waited (Or the AMD alternative if they can compete with the price), but who knows what state the market will be in when that happens. Prices might go up, availability might go down, maybe the updated mobos will be more expensive anyway. I ain't waiting for that to happen.,(reply>), For the record, I went with the 10400F since I could for a cheaper price than even a ryzen 3500. I was first only looking at ryzen CPUs thinking those would be the best value, but turns out they're not. This is why you don't fanboy and turn a blind eye.