Lex, you are an amazing interviewer, so I was shocked that you simply let this go by unchallenged:: "AGI can't be separate from human consciousness because the causal chain that produced it came from humans."  In the middle of an interview about AI, machine learning and chemputers exploring all possible reactions to create new molecules that may or may not be compatible with life on Earth???  Or new life forms that will be "so poor" they are harmless or can 'simply live alongside us'? <br> Ecology was the highest science I encountered ~ perhaps because it was the most humbling, in recognizing how little we understand about the deeply interconnected nature of Earthlife systems. Did you listen to Koko's last message? Climate change is not an interesting, cool problem. It is a symptom of the way we use our mindfields, of how we relate; an indicator that we are unable to manage our technologies, and diving deeper, our desires. <br><br>"We are interesting in our innocence"? ♥️ Blood red beginning here. War: innocence? How do we show our intelligence to interested others? By our patterns of transformation of the surface of the planet? By introduction, production and dissemination of toxic poisons and electromagnetic fields antagonistic to our life systems?  By shoving away eons of Earth's creations and by not even listening to other species when They learn Our language? We don't recognize our own planet's teachers. Why would an "alien" believe we would recognize their value, much less wisdoms?<br> I'm not sure I understand your hesitancy about thinking deeper because it leads towards philosophy rather than creative endeavors. I find truer guidance the deeper I go, it comes through quiet, soul or hearthought, not intellect. If you don't want to reach deep, please, broaden your knowledge base to include ecology.  Improve awesomeness of all of Earthlife: for the maximum number of people, and all our relations. Life's interrelatedness is more fundamental than time. 💛🌎🌿<br><br>PS: My hope for peace roots in consciousness of Indra's web and the deepest, cell~singing reward that alignment with life yields. Rupert Sheldrake's morphic fields (life's~the universe's memory), TM's proven ability to reduce violent crimes in  community; all of our measurable healing modalities:  let's use our distress to try something new: worldwide consciousness experiments in inner/\outer peace and love, healing practices of visualizing, tapping, meditation, focus -whatever people are willing to.  Why give our airwaves, our creativity, to a wounded bully wrecking havoc on well being all over the world? Millions of otherwise disconnected strangers are severely distressed. <br>                     ⭐💛⭐