I find it humorous that this is the subject of a podcast in December 2021. It came from the lab. You don't need to be a skeptic on something so blatantly obvious. Its basic critical thinking.,(reply>), @Ethan Littlestone even if no invitro modifications, or no serial passaging occurred, and this was 100% zoonotic, this does not exclude a lab leak in any way.,(reply>), @fischX wow, what a great display of new age and postmodernism thinking lol. I’m all on board of acknowledging just how little we know about the universe and reality. But that doesn’t mean we don’t know anything, sorry but your solipsism isn’t very convincing lol,(reply>), @Ethan Littlestone actually no. Basically critical thinking is the realisation that we know shit. Uncomfortable truth, we all are addicts of our own logical fallacies, we don't want to feel like a dumb egoistic but but widely uninformed ape like create that tries to navigate life more badly than masterfully and we have no idea what happened on a market where you not even understand the price list. I just have stories some are more convincing than others. But knowing? What do you think you are? Some kind of magic genius?,(reply>), No actually it’s basic critical thinking to realize it was a zoonotically transferred virus lol. Pretty obvious you know nothing about virology and evolutionary theory lol