Quran put together in a book from the minds of who left not dead after the wars happened after the prophet's death, and then it was "re-organized" again after about ten years by the khalifate Othman into a new unified book that will be distributed to all Muslim countries. Also, Othman burned all the original sources after his unification process! Plus, Saudis made a new version back in the 70's with slight differences from the existing one back then, and that's the one that we all know right now. Quite a good job from your God of preserving his book.,(reply>), @Sun ji Su you seem to need everything fed to you with a teaspoon my brother.<br><br>i answered every point in my second to last post (i left two but you seem to only see the  last one).<br><br>please provide any single piece of evidence that the quran is from god<br><br>if you say the quran is clear and easy to understand you must be a genius. but you dont even understand my replies to you so i know you don't understand the quran. no one really do. thats why people study it their entire lives and discuss it and disagree with other people who have discussed it their entire lives. i would recommend you dont lie anymore to yourself my friend. its only hurting you. when the truth is staring you right in the eye it is surely wise to welcome it.<br><br>you are a valuable human my brother. you deserve to have some more faith in yourself and free yourself from the chains of islam,(reply>), @Bjørn Does not address my points, completely ignoring my list. I find the Quran easy to understand, listen bro, in the Quran and throughout our entire belief we say "Inshallah" meaning "Allah wills". It is a humbling recognition that Allah is the one controlling everything. How does this relate to "scholars" debating the meaning? What I am saying is that Allah reveals the meaning to whoever he wants. Also about the Tafsir, it is there for people like you, who either do not read the Quran in order or someone who is coming to a surah and reading the Quran for the first time, and sometimes it is for people who are not willing to finish the surah. After all, you only fully understand something with proper context, it is encouraged to always finish a surah before talking about it as if you know it. Finishing that surah is what is needed to understand it. Now, if you do not either admit defeat on my prior reply or address my prior reply's points I will not participate in this discussion any longer. I seek a proper discussion, not fodder for foolishness.,(reply>), @Sun ji Su tel me this, my brother. do you find the quran easy to understand? is it clear to you? don't lie now my friend.<br><br>why does the tafsir exist? why have scholars been debating for centuries about the meaning?<br><br>"(O Muhammad), warn them of the coming of a Day when We shall bring forth a witness against them from each community and We shall bring you forth as a witness against them all; (and it is for that purpose that) We sent down the Book to you which makes everything clear, and serves as a guidance and mercy and glad tidings to those who have submitted to Allah." - 16:89<br><br>Now ask yourself if it is true that quran makes everything clear. you have a job of convincing yourself brother. but i want you to be honest and admit to the contradiction my friend.<br><br>its all going to set you free in the end. i will be waiting for you my friend. don't forget,(reply>), @Sun ji Su brother. You are getting emotional and angry. Breathe and read again what I said. Take some time to work on your reading comprehension. Maybe it will help you understand Quran as well 😂 The verse from the Quran was not meant as a proof of any contradiction. We did not even talk about that my friend. To be honest it sounds like you are having some doubts about your faith so you make up things. That is a good thing my friend. The verse was again to show you why hadiths are necessary for islam. Again I ask you to show me any reputable scholar who thinks otherwise. <br><br>If you wanna talk about contradictions in the quran I am happy to oblige.<br><br>You can fool yourself all day long with thinking that the changes in the quran throughout the years don't matter, but we all know it does matter. And there is no need for foul words my friend.<br><br>The authenticity of the hadiths is of course always an issue, and for the authenticity of the quran it is the same. What is hard to understand about that? I have asked you several times to provide any evidence that the book is from god and you have not even tried. Brother you are better than this. Quranic evidence? There is no such thing my friend. Again you need to understand that you are using circular reasoning. I can explain it to you what circular reasoning is if you want my friend. All I want is to help you.<br><br>What makes you think I hate you my friend? Your faith must be weak if it upsets you this much to be confronted about this. I can assure you that I think islam is evil and that muhammed was abusing gods name to benefit himself, but surely I love you and any other muslim or christian or hindu or jew or atheist or anyone else whatever they believe in. I partake in this conversation with you just because I have love for you and all humans. Now, it's time fore you to open your eyes and surely you will see the truth my brother friend. I am waiting.,(reply>), @Bjørn you are not supposed to provide evidence to your outlandish claims? Dude you actually blindly hate us LOL. Also yes I do know the Quran, that is why I am asking for you to find a contradiction, because I have not found one myself not has anyone found one period LOL.