Shifting burden of proof is not great strategy to claim 95% for lab leak. That is conspiracy theory until you have proof. Why are so many people jumping to bandwagon of unsupported conclusions? I didnn't heard anybody to say, that lab leak is impossible. Still speculation, stories and motivated reasoning. There are many Galileo gambiters in your podcast. Fauci obsession is bizzare, Joe Rogan is not too smart person. He is constantly spreading health bullshit. Try Steven Novella, Savid Goeski or some real skeptic, that doesn't gamble rhetorics. "No one can tell me how to think, but everyone has a lesson to teach me" How to think is there not for choosing. You have to follow rules of critical thinking, which you don't. You have to define from what you are free. I am for investigation and critique of China, safety debate etc but to claim 95% for lab leak is BS.