Hum, if AGI / AI / computing sentience + humans require an interface to intertwine, Demis Hassabis is a good wire to make them both talk sense about their relationship.,(reply>), Or if Vladimir Putin and Elon Musk should need to have a moderator to talk about "all that stuff" Lex might be getting the essence out of it.  Like Bachar in Syria and so many other controversial characters, it takes only a US mainstream journalist to antagonize them