Thanks so much for sharing this great conversation, I love Charles’ thought leadership and listening to his viewpoints, interesting that my model on virtual economies and behavior is different than Charle’s and perhaps more aligned with what Dr. Fridman was alluding to in that you don’t need to resolve the presence of reality to make virtual life more appealing, in fact it’s a reward factor for many that knowledge of the real work is persistent but we can escape it by forgetting about it momentarily.  As for functions of work and productivity my model is it depends on the reward function, digital experiences can be at least as rewarding as real experiences (greater than or equal to is a bit subjective perhaps).  Sorry to focus on such a trivial tangent when there are so many important philosophical issues, theories, problems, solutions, and engineering practices at the heart of autonomous financial systems.