I'm still pissed that I HAVE to pay for ps plus to play games online.,(reply>), They call it a subscription service. No it's a paywall,(reply>), @Mark the problem there, though, is that decent gaming rigs typically cost a lot more than consoles, and not everyone can afford that.,(reply>), @Mark Microsoft WAS the company that started the trend in the first place. And if you want to truly enjoy from the potential having a PC gives you, the price is absurd. So I really don't know if having a PC is the best. I have both a PS4 and a PC and even though I love my PC I always feel the need to improve it. If you get a console, you buy it and you're done.,(reply>), @Mazerty Joxièn I have a PS Plus AND an XBOX Live membership. Why? Two reasons; my sons. My youngest is still in high school and my oldest is right now in Afghanistan serving in the Army. They play games with each other every chance they get. My oldest can't use a PC for gaming for obvious reasons; Security. If he were to use a PC, then that could lead to a breach and thus put all the lives of the other soldiers in jeopardy, so this was my way of making sure they can still game. And before you ask how playing on a console doesn't breach security protocols, it's simple. That access point is isolated from the rest of bases internet/intranet usage. So, for me, I'm not losing money, but gaining access to hear my son's voice and game with him from time to time.,(reply>), Same here.