These two are spewing countless contradictions with everything they are saying. He says "Its impossible to know if people who die shortly after getting a vaccine died from it" if thats the case how are you so certain that those who died with having covid actually died from covid and not from something else, especially since PCR testing are the farthest thing from the golden standard of testing. I am astonished at how these so called scientific leaders use language and narrow minded thinking to firmly uphold their convictions. What a waste of space.