To claim that things havent changed, and they are just as bad now as they ever were, you are forgetting<br>a) Windows XP (4s remaining, no 2 weeks, no 5 mins,, no! six years, no 30 secs... etc etc etc)<br>b) even worse Lotus Notes... movement is uneven, often it restarts for no reason even though it has progressed, sometimes it even goes backwards (not because it is reporting anything uninstalling, jts just thats how lame it is).<br>Modern Progress Bars LOOKSURY!!!!!