Til now I always thought this kind of "When we say X, we don't mean X, we mean Y!" was down to incompetence and stupidity. You know, Hanlon's razor. But watching this, I'm reminded of how wokies are also professional victims. They know the lies and half-truths to tell in and about their personal lives to always make themselves the victims. And it would be illogical to assume those same "skills" (for lack of a better term) wouldn't carry over into their political lobbying as well.,(reply>), It's the motte and bailey strategy. Claim you mean one extreme thing, then when pressed retreat back to a safe definition and claim you are just creating discussion. When your opponent follows you back to your safe point, you leap back to the bailey and attack them with your extreme point again.<br>Rinse and Repeat until you win the audience over, as that's all that matters in debate.