I just love what AMD is doing, hope they will keep the momentum.,(reply>), G V  No they aren't.  They weren't competing in the top of the line department until threadripper for quite some time, but they were competitive in the lower end spectrum (found out my 500 dollar pc had 2 amd items, the gpu and cpu.  I probably would have done better building my own but at the time I didn't know that Amazon had that many parts for it.)  They were competing in both departments, just at the cheaper end.,(reply>), still an argument! where is ur support?