M8 i just want electric cars because they can be perfected to be extremely more reliable than ice cars and with mass production get cheaper.<br><br>Also the fuel for it can be made by anyone. All the energy for the cars in a city can be produced by the city. The amount of funds that city can generate and keep localy is huge.<br><br>Of course there is no free lunch, but oil industry caused more damage than battery manufacturing could ever do. Not talking about only to the enviroment, but politics, human rights, propaganda, etc.<br><br>Also, are you saying that we will never have a battery without nickel?,(reply>), @Giacoleto <br>1. Battery chemistry has changed surprisinly little in the last few decades...Tech often has an 'S-curve' to it, and we are definelty on the ending plateau. Improvments of 0.1% in battery energy density are considered huge these days, and won't take too amny years before we're moving that point back further and further...if you want a mostly safe, energy dense (much more dense than any battery), fuel soruce, stick a lot of hydrogens on a carbon chain...<br><br>2. Don't disagree with you, just pointing out the issues with "Also the fuel for it can be made by anyone. All the energy for the cars in a city can be produced by the city"<br><br>3. Shame that more countries havnt got it that low.<br><br>4. Might want to double check that recycling part...remember the cell phone recyling that was big news a few years ago that were a "future money printer"...yeah in actuality they were just all illegally dumped in 3rd world countries where the local politicians had been paid off...<br>And the same will happen with EV batteries, except they are alot larger, along with thier incoming envirmental impact...<br><br>Don't disagree with your last point in the slightest...would be nice!,(reply>), @dwavenminer <br>1. I am not a chemist, i don't know what future batteries will be. Maybe it's something we have no clue about.<br>2. In my country we make bio fuels sacrificing farmland and fresh water. That cannot be scaled up. In these bad climate times replacing food with fuel is a bad move.<br><br>Instead of having a complex sector to create and move biofuel and get nothing out of it, you can improve the grid and have a sweet new more powerfull electric grid.<br>3. Coal power is the 4th energy source here, it's under 10%. This winter could be coals last peak in europe.<br>4. Battery recycle is a future money printer, the private sector interest and investments is huge. It will be sorted.<br><br>Just bring jobs from china to eastearn europe or balkans. Things do not need to happen overnight.,(reply>), 1. Lithium batteries and long term reliablity do not mix....ICE on the other hand does...<br>2. Biofuels can be made by anyone<br>3. The amount of electricity required for an electric car cannot be made by just anyone, you're going to have to pull it from the grid...the coal powered (from a power station outside the city ), grid...<br>4. You might want to look at battery disposal...and the chemicals in said batteries...and thier effects on the environment...Not talking about only to the enviroment, but politics, human rights, propaganda, etc.<br>- also, before you say: "Solar power", you know those are produced in China with factories are coal powered right?