I get many people have next to no knowledge of Islam and this could act as a primer, but ignoring things like the growth of Salafism, women, sunni vs shia, fundamentalism in general, is a disservice.,(reply>), @Mohamud Ahmed محمود أحمد your haughty arrogance is hilarious. Saudi Arabia hey? Where woman are treated like chattels, where barbaric forms of punishment proliferate,  where migrant workers face deplorable conditions, where any freedom of expression and dissidence is repressed, most Saudis lack adequate housing, healthcare, sanitation and education, 40 percent of Saudi youth between twenty and twenty-four are unemployed, 40 percent of Saudis live in poverty and at least 60 percent cannot afford a home. What a wonderful beacon to the world!<br>And seeing as you are on your moral high horse against LGBTQ individuals you might want to check how intrinsic homosexuality is to Saudi every day life amongst young men, as well as there predilection for transvestite prostitutes, like other repressive Islamic nations.It's been here since day dot my friend!<br>And yes that fundamentalist form of Islam is in major need of reform. It is a dry, literalist interpretation, exactly in the same way that fundamentalist Christianity does (You'd think that would be a warning sign for both interpretations). It is an interpretation of control, not of growth in what it is to be human, or faith. What's more it is totally at odds with Muhammads example and desire for the faith. Muhammad was a reformer and enlightener, and this is purely reductionist. <br>Any religious interpretation that doesn't breathe, grow, understand metaphor, create more evolved humans is a stifling dead faith.,(reply>), @david fraser There aren't. You failed to bring any evidence for any of your claims. <br><br>Islam doesn't need reform since it is perfect. The evidence for it is the countries that impliment Sharia like Saudi Arabia for example that have <b>significantly lower crime rates, significantly healthier birth rates and over all better economy than the West</b> .<br><br>That is what Islam provided. <br><br>Now your backwards society is filled with crime, disease due to the sexual liberation and you can't even agree to what is a woman. Your society is literally allowing 16 year olds to undergo life altering treatments that they mostly regret by the time they are 20. <br><br>Don't get me started with the LGHDTV gang and the AIDS and HIV rates among men who sleep with other men in the West and the HIV drug resistance they develope despite 20 billion US$ being used to cure them. <br><br>The only reason the West is surviving is due to Neocolonialism, the Middle east was the latest main target.<br><br>Not only is the West suffering from decline in population, it's Muslim population is literally overtaking them due to larger birth rates since <b>the secular West doesn't care about family and religion anymore thus countries like the UK now for the first time have the largest over 30 year old women that are childless and unmarried</b> .<br><br>Not only are you uneducated and dumb, you are seriously brainwashed.  Look at the difference here:<br><br>Me the Muslim is clearly more educated and more aware of things than you, the secular. You are not civilized. You can't even make any factual statement. <br><br>Sad,(reply>), @Mohamud Ahmed محمود أحمد you know as well as I do they are two distinct movements taking up that moniker. Im sure you are going to say there is only one, the original and thus try to prove some bs point about modern interpretations not being more retrogressive and fundamentalist in interpretation. I use the word Wahabbi for this very reason as it distinguishes where a good percentage of modern Islam is going vs the more enlightened, progressive, cosmopolitan movements of the past. Islam has never had a reformation like Christianity and is badly in need of it less it continues in this sad march back to the stone age in its fundamentalist thinking optimized by what we see in your bs notion that there is only one interpretation of Islam in some unbroken chain.,(reply>), @david fraser What i am telling you is that you are ignorant and you demonstrated that very well.<br><br>Also," the Salaf are our predecessors:<br><br><a href=""https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salaf"">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salaf</a><br><br>"Salafism" isn't a new growing movement. It isn't a branch of Ahl Sunnah.  Your orientalist sources are contradicting Islamic history. <br><br>If you knew arabic i would bring you libraries",books and quotes from the Salaf (1dr-2rd century scholars of Islam specifically) determining who Ahl Sunnah are. Since you would understand it and there is no wikipedia page for that, there isn't anything i can do about it.<br><br>Dunner-Kruger effect is really on this one <br><br>"Wahabbism" isn't a thing. If i recall the very wikipedia page you read that nonsense from states that no one calls or identifies themselves as such. It is a word made up to insult people <br><br>Thank you once again for proving my point. Your cognitive bias needs to be attended to. You are clueless.,(reply>), @Mohamud Ahmed محمود أحمد you are telling me that Salafism/Wahhabism aren't the fastest growing trends in the world? Seems its you that doesn't have a grasp on understanding Islam.