i guess the guest means: consciousness is not a new stuff, but a new layer of description of things, starting from the bottom, at the basical level. it is more on the ontological level. The brain is just a solution, an organized structure, "developed" in order to have an even more complex conscious experience to enabling the survive in a given environment. But the neural tissue is not the only solution. infact i understand the hypothesis of panps. is that we start with the ontological premesis of consciousness.Bytheway consciousness is just a title, a human word.