Travis literally looks like he's drinking through a straw during this entire podcast. Why? Because he's drinking in the fact that he can actually talk to someone who really understands the words coming out of his mouth. Lex Fridman or not, all of us programmers can relate to this feeling. That hoodie person in the corner at the party, ready to unleash this kinda talk, bit there's nobody willing or able to listen. I feel ya bruh.