I try, I really try to understand where people like Goff and Chalmers are coming from, but the more I listen to them the more it just looks like a bunch of subjective fluff that they present as “objective” and go on to build themselves a career. The number of inconsistencies in this interview alone made me just go “Can you hear yourself?”<br><br>For example early on he says that it’s based on sub-atomic particles having, in some sense, self-awareness, but then later denies that the claim is that it applies to everything and that even among living creatures there are some that are “conscious” but others that really aren’t.<br><br>And in the straw man stuff about “goals “ (definition needed) and blades of grass the examples of “objectively useless” goals are completely subjective value judgements! Claiming to be in the school of analytical philosophy and being all rigorous is just a joke.<br><br>What an utter waste of time.