If the nature of physical matter is determined by it's organisation and inter-relatedness, then consciousness under a panpsychist view becomes untied from the physical world and tied into the abstract world of mathematical structure. I think that is a much more tenable position than it being intrinsic to matter, without understanding that matter is information. The mathematical universe of Max Tegmark combined with panpsychism is quite compelling. Each feeling lies in the abstract eternal plane of platonic ideals. And for me, that is what the visceral experience of experience is like. Each experience is timeless and has no reference to the present moment, you cannot look inside a feeling and see where it has come from, it is itself, apart from anything else.,(reply>), @straightedgerc nearly, it's more that I would say it feels like something to be a mathematical structure, say a mathematical group. The universe is just one part of the giant mathematical structure that can exist, therefore it is conscious in the same way all structures are.,(reply>), @straightedgerc No I mean the physical world is mathematical structure. Mathematical structure is the structure of consciousness. Therefore the physical world is consciousness. Identical mathematical structures feel identical. Identical experiences feel identical. The feeling of joy is timeless and lies beyond the physical world because it is replicated at so many places across the physical structure of mathematics.