I needed a cheap card that uses Turing drivers with performance requirements of video watching and internet for my multiseat. 1630 would have been probably better for my needs than 1650. Gaming will be done with another seat on the same machine that has a way higher performance GPU.,(reply>), @Jouni Osmala Yeah good value for companies to use it in "gaming" prebuilts and selling them to those who don't know any better.<br><br>A 1650 or a 1050ti can be bought much cheaper and have significantly better performance.<br><br>We've been held by the nuts since  the 2000 series to the point where the average person thinks getting a 2 year old, soon to be last gen card at MSRP is a good deal. Nvidia knows their customer base will pay and is taking full advantage of that.,(reply>), @Razertron I'm sharing 3900x and 32GB of RAM and NVME SSD between two users, and I don't have to have multiple copies of software installed, and most of the system software is shared between users.  And I don't have to maintain more than one machine.  And both users have access to the same files.  Oh. And I'm not even certain the system the GPU replaced even follows standard ATX conventions, so your suggestions are worse. <br>And the instructions on how to do it, specifically said that I shouldn't mix and match from multiple vendors.  I would have loved it if I could have mixed AMD and Nvidia GPU in the same system reliably without problems.  It would have made testing any games that I will code far easier. <br>If I wasn't warned against it that I would have tried to do so. But I don't have infinite time to debug issues from too clever hardware configurations with strange drivers so I went with the easiest path.  The hard path would have cost me at least 100$ worth of my time. <br>There are some use cases for stuff that has bad value to you.,(reply>), @Jouni Osmala stop covering for a scummy company by using those as an excuse. Literally can grab a RX460/560 for 100-150$ or less if you're in the West for clearance items aka new. There is no reason 170$ makes sense for that much power<br>And if you really wanted a cheap GPU for your "secondary system" just get a godamned 2400G and use the iGPU. Same performance as a 1050 and the whole processor is cheaper than the 1630 (or whole mobo+RAM+CPU if used),(reply>), @Alex Mills The MSRP of 1650 doesn't do justice to the price of the cards that are available. The 1630 MSRP just reflects the true rate of inflation. And by inflation, I mean inflating the money supply by printing more of it. And if total production isn't grown at the same rate as the money supply inflates it means prices go up.,(reply>), Too bad the 1630 is more expensive for less product, at that point what is the downside of the 1650?