This sneaky guest Jamie Mitzl is planting 15 to 35%?seeds doubt of a lab leak, BTW that's just enough.  He doesn't have to prove anything, just plant seeds of doubt like big oil and cigarette sellers did and do...what a pro!  Be careful Lex, @LexFridman  these guys are tricky.,(reply>), Jamie: your goal is to plant seeds of doubt you master of disinformation. Lex, Jamie is not a selfless, good man.  Unplug him.