I am totally disappointed but not surprised to hear this person talk about DIE (diversity, inclusion, and equity) in space exploration and development. If this is being inculcated into the thinking of the scientists involved with and responsible for the educational and engineering aspects of space travel, it is doomed to failure. Interplanetary travel requires and is fact the ultimate place for meritocracy if we as a species want to successfully stretch to moon bases, interplanetary development and colonization, with the goal of extending our earth civilization and the human species to other worlds….. convince me otherwise…..