What an amazing conversation. Truly. For like 40 minutes there, I was completely in a flow state while listening. It was also really illuminating to see how this dude's mind works. He presents thing very lucidly. Very much an "Apollo" energy rather than a "Dionysus." <br><br> It's gotten to the point where I honestly get more excited for Lex Fridman to interview someone than Joe Rogan.