I'm actually glad to see this going on, especially for devs. This happened because steam wasn't offering enough of a cut, and because of that devs and publishers are flocking over to Epic.,(reply>), @Paul Ghignon just how your insults lead to a very productive talk. Also here's the defenition of anti-consumerism since you obviously don't know what it means - not favorable to consumers : improperly favoring the interests of businesses over the interests of consumers. Thanks and have a good night :),(reply>), @Sonickid15 you clearly know nothing about the industry. All I'm seeing from you is just circular reasoning in order to justify your opinion, which is clearly wrong. There's no anti-consumer practices going on because what a dav chooses to do with THEIR GAME is their business, again don't like it don't buy it. I won't be replying further, because you'll simply come up with more circular logic that leads to no productive talks.,(reply>), @Paul Ghignon steam getting some competition won't make them lower their rates. We'll in some ways mabey but in others no. Also what epic games is doing is not competition it's anti-consumerism and shady business practices. They are trying to monopolize games on their platforms by making them either entirely  exclusive or timed exclusive which is not healthy competition at all. I do think competition is good for steam, it is for any industry. But when no other platform can touch steam its no wonder we're in the position we are in today. Also if steam really doesn't advertise your game try making a game," don't put it on steam and see how many people will see your game. There's a reason most indies use steam and not something like <a href=""http://itch.io/"">itch.io</a>. Not only is the user base large steam makes finding indie games easier for the consumer.",(reply>), @Sonickid15 So basically you've side tracked my whole point here, just to end up with the completely obvious that Epic's store sucks... It's better for everyone, yes Epic sucks as a platform; but again promotes competition upon steam to raise their rates. To think Epic will ever fully replace steam in it's current condition is entirely false, Epic's store just isn't comparable to steam so users won't flock to it, but will still make a dent in steam's sales. Your idea of what's advertising is not advertising sir... What steam does in comparable to what game stores do, by putting the best selling item in the easiest and most visible area; they're catering to the buyer not the game devs or publishers.,(reply>), @Paul Ghignon No im not opposed to other platforms I actually love GOG its great, but what EPIC is doing is shady and wrong as I said. Also steams recommendation system is amazing and has shown me many amazing games I would have never known, That is ADVERTISING. I can see where your coming from but epic doesn't do anything better than steam other than a lesser cut for developers.