Amazing. Ava for president! Hahaha. Wonderful interview, thank you for this. It's so great to see Alex Garland speaking with someone who is also extremely intelligent. It's rare that I see interviews with Garland where he seems truly engaged in an intelligent, philosophical, scientific conversation. I think he and Denis Villeneuve are the greatest directors living today, Garland even more so as he is a writer-director and a big thinker.