I have been in the gaming market for a long time (128k ZX spectrum long time) and have always bought mainstream games and have always thought games were very good value of money. (Time spent playing vs cost). However when I'm spending £120 a game I need to spend a lot of time on it just to "get my money back" which I resent sometimes and makes me dislike the game. Due to this I started looking at querky and less pressure selling games, stuff that I wouldn't normally like at, games that returned the fun to games. Now im loving indie games and some big decent, non mainstream games such as the long dark. Ive turned my back on MS games completely, a process i unintentionally started about 4 years ago.