Lost me when you said: the unverse started at some typical conditions. How many fkn starting universes have yiu studied so you could define "typical starting universe conditions"? At this point was clear to me that you were forcing everything to fit your "typical everything" condition. And I'm not sayingbthats right or wrong. We don't fkn know and if you are being objetive, pointing qualifications to something we don't have enough data to qualify is just plain wrong