It was painful listening to that part of the podcast...<br>but still love Joe.,(reply>), @Thinkin Ish Sweet With Jelly Bean Physical matter and energy may have always existed.  They  may just be a brute fact. Creation Ex nihilo seems like a hard concept to understand. But I’m not sure what your argument does that help solve that problem. How do abstract ideas  even create virtual projections? How do virtual projections exist without some kind of physical substrate? <br><br>And even more fundamental how could you possibly say that reality behaves like a simulation? What are you comparing it to? We say a simulation behaves like a simulation because we compare it to our reality and there’s something different about it. But if you’re saying reality it’s self behaves like a simulation what are you comparing it to to make the distinction from behaving like a simulation to not.,(reply>), @J-R-M I misspoke. We don’t live in a simulation but our reality behaves like one.  Believing in a physical world is just crazy as believing in a creator. Think about what it would take for an actual physical space to exist and how far does this space go on for? Abstract laws or rules cannot create physical stuff. It can only produce virtual projections of stuff. Unless you believe that something abstract and something physical have always coexisted at the same time (which is another issue in itself).,(reply>), @Thinkin Ish Sweet With Jelly Bean Also where are you getting the grounds to claim of physical world is virtually impossible? That’s an interesting choice of language with the word “virtually” Lol.,(reply>), @Thinkin Ish Sweet With Jelly Bean I was responding to where you literally said “I believe reality IS a simulation but I do not believe aliens did it.”,(reply>), @J-R-M like I said before,I don’t believe we live in a simulation. I believe our universe behaves like one. A living computer program if u will. A physical world is virtually impossible