You showed such unbelievable courtesy at points of disagreement, even while having your ideas patently dismissed. Well done. <br><br>Interesting reconsideration is forced by watching two grown men stand calmly in their positions. I share your position on the complexity of human intelligence, but I'm now challenging my assumptions.,(reply>), Engineers have been saying we would have AGI since the 1950s.  They seem to vastly underestimate the problem.  Same with autonomous driving, a substantial subset of AGI.