Gentlemen, thank you both for this wonderful podcast. 5 hours in one sitting is nothing compared to the revelations and inspiration I took from this. Thank you for sheding light on the Covid situation and also the expressions of humility and good will. Exceptional stuff! Best of luck to you both and I pray that we can elevate the world for brighter future. Also, can we have Jamie as the next US president? I wonder how he would integrate his chocolate rituals in that role!