Again, Lex I’ve commented this before. The issue is NOT the vaccines, it’s the mandates. It’s the ridiculously disproportionate response relative to the actual threat, resulting in net harm and increased human suffering overall. It’s the truly dangerous idea that freedoms can or should be revoked by government “for your own good”. This is easily the most important part of the discussion, in my opinion. Otherwise we slip into a China-like situation where, as discussed here, the government has absolute control and none of the other points matter since they can’t even be discussed objectively. At that point you can forget about whatever beautiful ideas you have. <br><br>The fear that I as well as many other “anti-vaxers” have, is that if we simply let government have that much control in this case, it will surely lead to an increasingly authoritarian landscape, and non-compliance is simply a form of protest against going in this direction.,(reply>), @Sheriff BigDog disagree. Removing the choice is the real issue.