AMD is really doing the rubbing, right now.  Let us not forget that the shoe in 2011 was on some other foot when AMD made an epic piece of graphic card crap that infected the early 2011 MacBook Pro; the Intel integrated graphic card in that machine still works just fine, as the added AMD failure card hasn't been forgotton by lots of Mac fans. I might use a Ryzen for a build and enjoy the whole thing...Is AMD now the answer to a maiden's prayer?  Nope.