I expected a better podcast looking at the topic. But this was not very engaging. Mr. Crews is indifferent to the tone of voice as well as a decent flow of words, pausing here and there and everywhere. And not very insightful point of view either.,(reply>), i had to put the speed at 0.75 to understand him,(reply>), 100% agreed. great topic wasted on awful guest/performance,(reply>), we got a social history lecture, not really any insights or analysis other than "you break it you bought it".