I think Hotz should leave this product and move to full automation without LIDAR.. that way he has more chance of success.  His current product scope is very less.,(reply>), @Winfred j He has no car company, so cameras internally in the frame of the car is no option, because that stuff has to be arranged with a car company. If you arrange such type of contract that would mean you lose a lot of freedom, because your system has to be compatible with the car and if the car company decides they don't want your product anymore you lose your invesments. And just adding some cameras inside the car and placing them on the windows is really not an option since it looks ridiculous.,(reply>), @Lienert De Maeyer That's what I meant. Since he doesn't use LIDAR, it's better for him to do full autonomous without this kit thing. the kit has limited scope. I know his goal is not to reach Level 5 with a kit. But the industry has already moved past level 3. So it's better for him to aim for level  5.,(reply>), He doesn't use LIDAR