so much for buying all that power and influence.  in the end, didn't seem to help much.    this is why i'm generally skeptical and unimpressed with conspiracies, real or not.  sure, some people WANT to have all the money and power, but how often does that actually happen?,(reply>), @Toast Man i think scams always fail, it's just a matter of time and how many people get screwed over before they do.  why?  because they can't deliver.   it doesn't matter if it's Theranos or FTX or whatever - if what you're selling is based on lies and you're telling people things are happening when they're not, and people keep getting disappointed, it's difficult to sustain that for long periods of time.,(reply>), Would we know about all this if FTX didn't implode in the first place?