When in the discussion of how science will save us, you first mention climate, that is a red flag and I will have to see if you mean how climate science is a scam and will result in much death due to lack of energy. If you cannot see this basic truth, I would never buy your book or listen to this interview any longer…. We shall see.,(reply>), How about the fact that they have basically abandoned the big bang theory now.  That has to throw one massive monkey wrench in their supposed mathematical formulas. My God they have been espousing it as a fact for decades. This guy was very humble and actually said it was speculative.  People like Tyson or whatever his name is think he can just gloss over the fact that they have been touting "science " as the end all,  be all yet were completely wrong about the big bang. Trust the science they say, just like covid science is on one hell of a losing streak.