Hugely enjoyable podcast for me , and I will listen again very soon. Lex conducts the conversation superbly and Brian is very eloquent and seems to really enjoy himself. I was pleased to see the reference Ernest Beckers book 'The Denial of Death' which I have owned for a few years but only recently got properly into it. It is a fascinating insight into culture  and human motivations, and great to see that those two eminent minds were profoundly moved by it.