There is also nothing by accident, it might seem like how we came to be was "played" as and accident, but it was actually celestial fate that destined us to happen. From a spiritual enlightened point of view..,(reply>), @Ryan R What mechanism ot the theory of evolution are you referring to?  Mutation, non-random mating, gene flow, finite population size (genetic drift), and natural selection.  Because not all of them are deliberate.  Many species have evolved characteristics that not only don't help them as a species but actually hinder them and drove them to extinction.   Meaning is not a requirement for something to be random or spontaneous.  They are two separate mutually exclusive things.  Spontaneous means unpredictable process which is governed from within rather than by external conditions like temperature and pressure. Random implies any time, it may happen without any pattern,(reply>), @Bill Bartle That being said, even free-will is intentional, thus making free-will just an illusion. We have absolutely no free-will and that everything is by design. We do not choose what we do next, we are programmed to think that way and were completely oblivious to it. I don't believe in any independent God figure or idol, but a sentient form of energy that's granting the Universe to put on course our consciousness towards a greater purpose. That is all I will say to convince you, there's no more reason to debate with you or listen to your implications because it's senseless. Your belief of randomness gives no meaning in life, and that we are just mere spectacles of desolation. If you believe your life is pointless, then so be it. Peace and love to you brother.,(reply>), @Bill Bartle You know, if you believe evolution is completely random void from the fact that evolution itself is based on deliberation. That is contradictory to the very nature of evolution itself. If there was no need to communicate, evolution would not have allowed you to have features that enable you to communicate with me if there was no purpose. Our ability to communicate with one another was not a random event or accident. We didn't evolve to the height of our present moment or apex for no reason. Nothing is by chance. Evolution would have no meaning if there wasn't a need for anything. Randomness cannot be spontaneous without meaning if that's what your addressing to.,(reply>), @Ryan R my having been born and being alive does not prove that fate exists, which was my initial statement.  I do not believe in a god, any of them, nor do I believe in a spiritual realm.  I believe life in general has evolved for almost 14 billion years and produced intelligent sentient humans at its apex as far as we know.  The fact that we evolved to our present state of being is a completely random event.,(reply>), @Bill Bartle Your not making any sense. You keep ignoring the fact that you yourself is proof. You saying there is "no proof" itself is asserting something. So who designed YOU? Just mere coincidence?