I've been saying for years that genetics and race DO have a strong correlation to innate intelligence. It's a very controversial topic, with good reason. There are, of course, exceptions to the norm, but overall, in general, genetics and race will play a huge factor in how naturally intelligent a person is. And remember, intelligence is not the same thing as education.,(reply>), @m There is the ballooning amish population as well, and who really knows what their intelligence levels are like. This is gonna be a weird place in a few generations.,(reply>), @AdrienLegendre "geographic ancestry (biology) and race (history) are different." For practical purposes? Not specially - inferred genetic clusters and self-identified race match very well in studies.<br>Aren't you turning here everything in to word game? Because you still get in to differences, but not based on race but... ancestry.,(reply>), @AdrienLegendre That's a complete non-sequitur. Even if race were an entirely arbitrary category, it would still be possible for members of these categories to differ in average IQ. It's entirely possible for a historical/legal concept to correlate with underlying genetic traits (as it obviously does for skin color). Unless your point is solely that the concept of race doesn't itself impact IQ, I have no idea how it is supposed to substantively address the claim of heritable IQ differences between the relevant population groups.,(reply>), There is no controversy that 1) genetics do influence intelligence and 2) race does not biologically contribute to intelligence.  Races are identified as groups of people historically subject to racial discrimination, a historical or legal concept.  If race influences IQ, it must influence IQ because of discrimination.  Geographic ancestry, where your ancestors lived, may influence race, may influence race but geographic ancestry (biology) and race (history) are different.,(reply>), Race is used a lot in America but it is not a proper scientific classification. By those standards all of South America would be one homegeneous Latino background. It's one of the concepts of the bell curve that is outdated these days.