holly moly 5 hours? I don't have that much time to spare in the rest of 2022!!! If you go around saying MSM Interviews are too short for real conversations, you have to realize that there is a opposite side of that coin too (Podcasts that are too long!)...don't believe me? ask Joe Rogan!,(reply>), Theres timestamps stop complaining you don’t have to watch the whole thing all the way through.