Well Well... Chinese scientists  are forced  to tell  lies.  Western scientists can not... come on....,(reply>), Yeah I really felt the podcast didnt do much justice for us critics of the current narrative. <br>Was still a great listen IMO. Plus I like how they both brought up the need to listen to critics <br>and have a science throw down so to speak. <br>Plus its still strange to hear "professionals" declaring the various vaxes as "safe and effective".<br>Let alone saying young healthy people should still be vaxed. <br>RDNA is a brand new approach. And got rushed to the public with non standard testing. <br>And this is only year 1 of evaluating the early adopters. And we keep hearing about "break through" cases. <br>And saying the data is bad is like saying the sun is warm. Its abysmal. Happy to see Russel's YT ch took off like a rocket. <br>Comedians have become the new reporters it seems.