I don't buy intel products anymore AMD is much better,(reply>), @DumbSloth87 I hate apple,(reply>), FirestoneX Let me guess, you love Apple, Tesla and Supreme.,(reply>), moo I care about the only competitor that Intel has, if AMD doesn't succeed/make good products we get stagnation, like what happened in the 7 years before Ryzen. Intel stopped innovation because there was no real competition and that's bad for CONSUMERS!,(reply>), FirestoneX LoL, enjoy getting ripped off by intel overpriced none soldered processors, if you don't know shit about technology keep your mouth shut,(reply>), I dont trust AMD. Seems like a less stable, poor man's version of a cpu.