"The core i7 doesn't really need hyper threading, it's probably fine to have a lower thread count than last year" - Intel, 2018<br>"You know, we really need more threads deeper in our product stack.  Let's add hyperthreading to the core i5" - Intel, 2020,(reply>), @ArchFXT serves them right, they screwed us consumers for YEARS AND YEARS and now THEY are getting screwed... that is karma .... well deserved... god damn scumbags,(reply>), Dennis Pietrandrea What prompted leaving Haswell for the new chips?,(reply>), Dylan Nguyen Me as well. I don’t see a reason for upgrades. Eventually there’ll be one.,(reply>), @Dennis P all amd ? , Nah amd's gpu is still a mess for a while atleast,(reply>), @ArchFXT pretty much no matter what comes out I'm not upgrading for a while. In my main gaming PC I have a 9900k with RTX 2080ti paired with it. On my old rig it has a 4790k with GTX 1080. That machine is still plenty playable and only got retired due to my need to do other things besides gaming. <br><br>The 9900k though is has been perfect for me , at some point I'll upgrade the old rig to a all amd build but it will be a while