Awesome interview, thank you Lex and Jamie Metzl.  I made it through the five hour interview which can only mean that is was an filled with excellent content or I have way too much time on my hands, the later being the case.   Keep these wonderful open conversations coming.     You might consider making another channel of clips like Dark Horse Podcast -  much of the really good content will be missed by many do to time constraints.,(reply>), He has a Lex Clips channel!