Next time do a barrel roll!,(reply>), @bongo bates<br>As a KSP player, I know how difficult things can get... (And that it's hard to get into a spin with a well designed plane.),(reply>), The graveyard spiral and the flat spin are very close relatives. In both cases the innermost tip of the airfoil loses lift and the outermost airfoil has lots of air to support it. Some airplanes when in A flat spin are very hard to recover. Recovery generally requires altitude.,(reply>), +Alwin Priven Yes, definitely, search glider aerobatics, you'd be amazed at what they can do.,(reply>), He did a looping... Gotta go fast.,(reply>), Do you think it's possible in a glider?