description: <p>*********************************************</p><h2 id="update-2024-02-26-alq9hbmzg">Update - 2024-02-26</h2><p>PPello uploaded.</p><h2 id="do-i-need-it-jqen65le1">Do I need it?</h2><p>Broscience time! "Latent space" structure varies per checkpoint, as such Loras work better with some models and not at all with other.</p><p>PPetto has almost no weight in 2D based checkpoints. Luckly for PPetto, we now have PPello, who was trained on GoldenCatMix (a flat 2D model).</p><p>PPello has a lot of weight in all art based models and inpaints small genitals with ease. You can even use him to generate at lower weight 0.25-0.75, to shift male nudes towards 2.5D.</p><p>Now, don't get your hopes up too high. Dataset was still all photos, so it's not possible to inpaint flat 2D lineart genitals without jumping through hoops. But anything 2.5D PPello handles well.</p><p>Enjoy.</p><p>(<em>Caution: buttdick was sighted quite often on sample images during Lora training. It seems like artistic models have that issue at their core. You can still generate butts with this lora, but don't be surprised if a wild buttdick appears.</em></p><p><em>Judging by the images, it almost seems like model tries to replace "default" female genitals with male genitals in some very funky AI-intuitive way. First instinct is to use Female Negative Prompt.</em>)</p><p>*********************************************</p><p></p><h2 id="guys-i-got-you-all-quick-little-something.-inb0ipqcb">Guys, I got you all quick little something.</h2><p>It's the next version of SmallPP Lora.</p><p>It was hard to make it worse than version 1. Buuuut...</p><p>There were a few issues with captions... I tried to make a modular Lora where you can specify penis size by prompting inch_6_up or say inch_3_up. But instead... The lora learned that you have to add "inch_9, inch_8_up, inch_7_up, inch_6_up, inch_5_up, inch_4_up, inch_3_up, inch_2_up, inch_1_up" to the prompt if you want a 9 inch penis to appear...</p><p>Nah, jk. I didn't use captions AT ALL. HAHA!</p><p></p><h2 id="first-of-all-what-is-it-j04jbh8wb">First of all, what is it?</h2><p>I cooked up a little dataset to train a realistic/artistic male genitals lora, but, as things go, went overboard and ended up with 800+ images. Naturally, there's no way in hell I'm captioning that! So, there you have it, a lora trained without captions.</p><p>Now, don't go spitting at your monitor, it's quite ok.</p><p></p><h2 id="what's-the-difference-from-version-1-j3bldqn1c">What's the difference from version 1?</h2><p>It actually has detail built in this time around. So, you don't have to rely on the checkpoint to inpaint details into genitals.</p><p>Unfortunately, training data was also all photos - so, it's a lot less friendly with artistic checkpoints.</p><p></p><h2 id="what-does-no-captions-mean-for-you-itcvm7pm8">What does no captions mean for you?</h2><p>For the most part, lora will produce images as it saw them in training data without any triggers or prompting - both generating and inpainting (<em>Correction: I looked through metadata any Kohya apparently assigns class and instance keywords to triggers; there were no caption files, but if you're having trouble, use 'nude man'</em>). Training data contained <strong>full body and head shots, medium shots (thighs up), behind shots, close up pelvis shots and a few random poses.</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Random poses</strong> - not sure if there were enough to train anything meaninful, but perhaps they will help.</p><p><strong>Close up pelvis shots</strong> - unlike version 1, you can inpaint resonably small genitals just by setting "Only masked padding pixels" to just enough to contain hips only, as there were plenty of close up images. This also helps if you inpainted zoomed out shape first, and then want to add detail upclose. Close up images were 768x768, so you can try and rise inpaint resolution if nothing else helps (it's still small shriveled dicks, so keep your expectations low).</p><p><strong>Behind shots</strong> - lora seen plenty of man butts, so you can use it to fix dick-butt and vagina-butt. There were no lewd images, just nude men posing, so 'spreading butt cheeks' will probably not work.</p><p><strong>Medium shots</strong> - contained handsome ~25 yo fit men. Small genitals aside, you can try and generate some unusual (perhaps even attractive) looking faces and torsos.</p><p><strong>Full body and head shots</strong> - contained the tiniest genitals. So if close up inpaints don't give results you like, utilise version 1 workflow of inpainting "Whole picture" with genitals masked - they will likely become even smaller.</p><p></p><h2 id="tips-isqepft7p">Tips?</h2><p>I've grabbed the last epoch and done some very limited testing. But a few things are already apparent:</p><p>- Definitely stronger than Version 1, but it's still inpaint heavy, you're trying generate a very small detail after all (sometimes even smaller than a finger). You can also inpaint directly into upscaled image, with similar success to low resolution.</p><p>- I suggest inpainting as the main workflow, but you can try and generate with lora in the prompt for variety, can't promise good results. But last epochs had some good hands show up.</p><p>- For troubleshooting, first things first, remove entire prompt and leave only "nude man, &lt;lora&gt;". Even the negative prompt can disrupt the output.</p><p>- Generally, works well at weight 1. On 2.5D and 2D models might need ramping it up to 1.5.</p><p>- How well genitals inpaint, varies a lot per checkpoint. But it does work on checkpoints with little genital training like Dreamshaper for example.</p><p>- Black pubes are baked in (likely, majority of images contained them), since no captions were used, it's probably not possible to get rid of them with lora in prompt.</p><p>- Training data was exclusively flaccid uncut full coverage foreskin. If you want circumcised flaccid genitals - pick a checkpoint that can already generate them, inpaint the small shape with this lora and then inpaint details at low denoise without lora - this will make flaccid cut genitals.</p><p>- Has very low strength with 2D and lineart checkpoints. Too much effort to bother, unless, there's literally no other options.</p><p></p><h2 id="some-details.-r3xv3zgx6">Some details.</h2><p>Lora was trained on DivinehomoDiffusion at base resolution of 768x768. ~800 images for 30 epochs at 1 repeat per. Last 4-5 epochs seemed pretty much the same. Did low batches to try and keep some variety, since data set was pretty large, not sure if succeeded.</p><p></p><h2 id="are-you-gonna-caption-it-q0le1kd3c">Are you gonna caption it???</h2><p>Ugh... Maybe, no promises. But I doubt result would be much better.</p>
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modelVersions.description: <p>Declaimer:</p><p>Not sure if I should even be uploading this, because this Lora is not quite end-user quality.</p><p>But I'm using it to make images, and just perhaps it will help someone else as well.</p><p>So, what is this?</p><p>It's a Realistic Size Flaccid Male Genital Lora (at least my best attempt at it so far). You know, the kind you see on non-pornographic male nude imagery.</p><p>Does it work?</p><p>Like I said, it's not plug and play, as I, ideally, would like it to be. There is a workflow one needs to follow to actually inpaint modestly sized genitals.</p><p>It takes about as much inpaints as the rest of the image :D Buckle up.</p><p>(Apologies to anyone on very low specs - this will hardly be useful)</p><p>Wat do?</p><p>1. Generate the image you want genitals on, with any checkpoint you like (I'll test some as I go, but I can't try them all; models that already can generate male genitals, at least to some degree, are a good bet).</p><p>2. Go directly to inpaint (before any kind of Upscaling or Hires fixing).</p><ul><li><p>Mask any undesired genitals generated by the checkpoint.</p></li><li><p>Inpaint Masked. Fill/Latent Noise. Whole Picture. Set Size to your full image size. Denoise at 0.75-1.</p></li></ul><p>(this is important, because you want to inpaint with perspective to entire image, otherwise, genitals will be too large)</p><ul><li><p>Add Lora to prompt at 1.25 or higher Weight (and nothing else, maybe 'nude man' at most, any other penisy keywords will only enlarge the genitals).</p></li><li><p>Generate a few batches. Right now, you're looking for a good believable outline for small flaccid genitals (just a vague base you will add detail to later).</p></li></ul><p>3. Now do your upscaling (without the Lora), whichever method you prefer, but keep in mind that you want the genital outline to stay intact (it's possible to do Step 2, after upscaling, but then you'll be inpainting huge images - not ideal).</p><p>4. Go back to inpainting and inpaint genitals locally, at around 0.35-0.5 denoise until you get some amount of detail. This step varies a lot per checkpoint you're using. If it already can produce genitals you like - inpaint without Lora. If it can't - use Lora with Weight 1-0.5. Prompting for 'penis, flaccid, uncut' at this stage helps. In the end, it's a limp dick, don't expect SD to have learned anything pretty other than 'skin folds all over'.</p><p>Wew, this easy?</p><p>I've done limited testing so far and have a few things to advise (all subjective of course).</p><ul><li><p>Models with HUGE genitals are pretty stubborn. Don't use any genital related keywords, sometimes even 'nude' will increase genital size.</p></li><li><p>If initial genitals are too big. Try to inpaint something smaller first, then mask a smaller zone and inpaint further.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Models that favor female genitalia will produce something akin to 'penis coming out of vagina' a lot. If you see male genitals entirely surrounded by skin folds - add "female, woman, girl, 1girl, vagina, pussy" and whatever else comes to mind to Negative Prompt.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>I'm not 100% on this, but try not to use negative embeddings when doing Step 2. Basic Negative Prompt, doesn't seem to hurt.</p></li><li><p>When adding detail (Step 4), using 'flaccid, uncut, penis' might be detrimental on checkpoints that generate mutilated body horror nonsense without Lora.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>I will not do any editing for previews (outside of nice little frame), but, honestly, it's a lot easier to paste in Step 2 genitals after Upscaling, rather than try to upscale without affecting them.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>This had photos in training data, but I can't promise photorealism, because I don't normally generate that sort of imagery.</p></li><li><p>Training data contained very simplistic lineart as well. So flat 2D should be possible.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Lora was trained on ewolf's OhmenLifelike. Lifelike versions performed MASSIVELY better than same dataset trained on SD 1.5 or UnstableHomoerotic.</p></li><li><p>Above point also implies that this lora works best on all derivatives of OhmenLifelike, supposedly.</p></li></ul><p>Thanks, but no thanks.</p><p>Honestly, I don't know what's going on with Stable Diffusion's 1.5 penis concept, but that thing is all over the place. It will learn anything and everything else that's in the image, just not the genitals.</p><p>Perhaps this workflow works even better with one of the other penis Loras on CivitAI, I don't know, I didn't try (this Lora had exclusively uncut tiny subjects in training data, except for close-ups). If you feel like it. Try it.</p>
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