re batf fbi murders almost everyone in waco today in article r ld bp transfer stratus com cdt sw stratus com c d tavares writes in article c t g il news udel edu roby chopin udel edu scott w roby writes in article r rad rl transfer stratus com cdt sw stratus com c d tavares writes in article c s ds j news udel edu roby chopin udel edu scott w roby writes the original question was about who started the fire and whether the madmen were inside or outside the compound to which i replied on the possible sanity level of those inside and outside was that your argument well you didn t make it very well you started from the questionable premise that the fire was necessarily an act of insanity rather than an act of negligence or an accident recall one survivor claims that the fire started when a tank knocked over a kerosene lamp kind of makes arguments regarding relative sanity somewhat moot no and another survivor claims he heard someone shouting the fire s started odd terminology that s what one says when you know a fire is planned not when one occurs by accident we will have to wait and see what the evidence shows assuming one is willing to believe any evidence offered by the distrustful ones according to an australian documentary made in the year before the stand off began koresh and his followers all believed he was christ koresh had sex with children and women married to other men in the compound these were the perfect children resulting from the great seed of his magnified horn ex members describe him in ways not dissimilar to the way jim jones has been described point noted have you submitted your faith and sex life for batf clearance better hurry i believe the deadline was april i paid my taxes there was no reference to sex or religion on the form the comments above and below were meant to address who might be unstable enough to keep children in a building with tear gas or start a fire nice evasive maneuver mr chekov but they re still on our tail let me ask it more plainly which of the above complaints about david koresh s religious or sexual proclivities justified an armed raid by the bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms neither again i was merely addressing the sanity level of the players i agree that the batf handled the affair badly from day one btw i heard on the news today that the affadavit behind the no knock warrant was unsealed today grenade launcher was the only thing on the list that i found unusual two of the nine who escaped the compound said the fire was deliberately set by cult members so when they talk to the news reporters directly and relate the same details will you believe them believe them i won t even recognize them and neither will anyone else who doesn t know them personally do you believe they would put impostors before the national tv cameras it s not entirely far fetched nobody outside the compound would know everybody inside the compound don t forget the batf admits having agents inside the compound in any case ambitious news reporters could use the documentary filmed by an australian in on the compound grounds to help identify survivors i for one will check their stories for consistency with what i learned in a long news story about that documentary at this point we are getting conflicting reports from the survivors best wait til more light is shed upon them of course this is no good if you believe in eternal darkness i m simply being the devil s advocate there s reasonable doubt by the boatload standing in the way of anybody totally swallowing the official government story on waco certainly there is some room for doubt i certainly reserve the right to change my opinions when new evidence warrants such a change if i were conspiratorially minded however i would never be able to change my mind because any evidence i disliked would have to be a lie fabricated by the distrustful ones
