re some thoughts in article bissda saturn wwc edu bissda saturn wwc edu dan lawrence bissell writes first i want to start right out and say that i m a christian it that s okay it s what all the rest of them who come on here say makes sense to be one have any of you read tony campollo s book liar lunatic or the real thing i might be a little off on the title but he writes the book anyway he was part of an effort to destroy christianity in the process he became a christian himself this isn t the guy who was a lawyer was he could you give more info on this guy never mind i m sure there will be plenty of responses to this post and it will appear there the arguements he uses i am summing up the book is about whether jesus was god or not i know many of you don t believe but listen to a different perspective for we all have something to gain by listening to what others have to say this is true make sure it is true for all cases the book says that jesus was either a liar or he was crazy a why not both modern day koresh or he was actually who he said he was some reasons why he wouldn t be a liar are as follows who would die for a lie wouldn t people be able to tell if he was a liar why not die for a lie if you were poverty stricken and alunatic sounds perfecetly reasoable to me as to whether the societal dregs he had for followers would be able to tell if he was a liar or not not necessarily even if he died for what he believed in this still makes him completely selfish like us all so what s the difference people gathered around him and kept doing it many gathered from hearing or seeing someone who was or had been healed call me a fool but i believe he did heal people there is no historical proof of this see earlier threads besides he or at least his name have been the cause of enough deaths to make up for whatever healing he gave niether was he a lunatic would more than an entire nation be drawn to someone who was crazy sieg heil very doubtful in fact rediculous for example anyone who is drawn to david koresh is obviously a fool logical people see this right away who is david koresh i am curious therefore since he wasn t a liar or a lunatic he must have been the real thing how does this follow your definition of lunatic and disproof thereof seem rather uhhh shaky some other things to note he fulfilled loads of prophecies in the psalms isaiah and elsewhere in hrs alone this in his betrayal and crucifixion i don t have my bible with me at this moment next time i write i will use it good idea i don t think most people understand what a christian is it is certainly not what i see a lot in churches naturally those or not true christians right rather i think it should be a way of life and a total sacrafice of everything for god s sake he loved us enough to die and save us so we should do the same hey we can t do it god himself inspires us to turn our lives over to him that s tuff and most people don t want to do it to be a real christian would be something for the strong to persevere at but just like weight lifting or guitar playing drums whatever it takes time we don t rush it in one day christianity is your whole life it is not going to church once a week or helping poor people once in a while we box everything into time units such as work at this time sports tv social life god is above these boxes and should be carried with us into all these boxes that we have created for ourselves someone else handle this i don t know if it s worth it sigh adam john cooper verily often have i laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good simply because acooper macalstr edu they had no claws
