re screw the people crypto is for hard core hackers spooks only begin pgp signed message why do we hackers care about the clipper chip do we give a shit about anybody s privacy accept our own and perhaps not even our own are we so smart that we always know when we re talking to somebody who has a wiretap on their phone i find this a very disturbing view yes we do care about everyone s privacy even if they don t know it what happens if the gov t starts creating legislation such that the clipper and such technologies become the only legal encryption forms what happens when the clipper is the only type of encryption chips available to the masses sure you might have your own method of encryption but if you don t have anyone else to talk to what use is it you can t assume that everyone will be as open as you appear to be about encryption the point here is not the specific instance of the wiretap chip rather it is like having the government telling you that they want a copy of your house key safe deposit box keys etc and telling you that they wont use them unless its totally neccessary i sure wouldn t want that why should encryption be any different derek pgp key available upon request on the key server pgp public keys toxicwaste mit edu derek atkins mit electrical engineering and computer science secretary mit student information processing board sipb mit media laboratory speech research group warlord mit edu pp asel n nwh
