re pem and mime in article qg m e nigel msen com emv garnet msen com edward vielmetti writes w c newell jr wcn u washington edu wrote before we can have a global multimedia e mail solution there must be some definition of a minimum service level and mime does not provide for this yet before the internet will invest in software people need to see content i would suggest that attractive mime formatted news messages a day would be sufficient to get a few people thinking about adding mime support to news readers esp if the content is really worth it imho we have a long way to go before the unix specific muas newsreaders etc reach the service levels of the other commercial platforms there ought to be such a definition consisting of known object data types and rules for their handling included in the transport specification document yes but there is also a long way to go before most mac pc and windows muas and newsreaders are ready to handle the sheer volume of news and mail that many unix specific tools are able to cope with when the choice is more feechurs or make the damn thing fast enough to keep up with the flood you have to bet that fast enough wins ed as usual makes a very good point one time a friend of mine at sun sent me an e mail he composed it using the sun openwindows mailtool which handles non mime attachments and the like since i don t use mailtool i had to manually save it cut paste and then uudecode the actual attachment what i got after a not inconsiderable amount of time spent doing this was an audio file the original message was over kb of mail headers and uuencoded data the resulting audio message was a single sentence that i transcribed as a character message if he had sent me the sentence in plain text the e mail would have been around bytes and it would have taken me about seconds to process it at most instead it was k and it took at least a minute a complete waste of my time and bandwidth as far as i m concerned sending plain text is still the most efficient method of transmission given the same transport mechanism i shudder to think what would happen if everyone started posting their usenet articles as audio files instead of plain text meltdown of the net predicted film at eleven back to mono this sub thread no longer has anything to do with pem or administrative policy so i ve redirected followups back to comp mail mime greg greg earle phone fax internet earle isolar tujunga ca us uucp isolar earle elroy jpl nasa gov a k a elroy isolar earle
