o t o clarification sorry the san jose based rosicrucian order is called a m o r c i don t remember for the time being what the a m stand for but o r c is ordo rosae crucis in other words latin for order of the rose cross sigh seems l m loosing more and more of my long term memory otherwise their headquarters in san jose has a pretty decent metaphysical bookstore if any of you are interested in such books and my son loves to run around in their egyptian museum cheers kent sandvik newton apple com alink ksand private activities on the net
