re accepting jeesus in your heart in article apr athos rutgers edu johnsd rpi edu writes in article athos rutgers edu jayne mmalt guild org jayne kulikauskas writes drugs are a replacement for christ those who have an empty spot in the god shaped hole in their hearts must do something to ease the pain i have heard this claim quite a few times does anybody here know who first came up with the god shaped hole business this is why the most effective substance abuse recovery programs involve meeting peoples spiritual needs you might want to provide some evidence next time you make a claim like this in step programs like alcoholics anonymous one of the steps involves acknowleding a higher power aa and other step abuse recovery programs are acknowledged as being among the most effective unfortunately as evidence for god this can be dismissed by stating that the same defect of personality makes substance abusers as makes people religious and the debunker could perhaps acknowledge that being religious is a better crutch than being a drug addict but still maintain that both are escapism and i suspect that there are some atheists who would find the substance abuse preferable to christianity i think that an essential problem with communication between christ ians and atheists is that as christians we necessarily see ourselves as incomplete and needing god the god shaped hole while atheists necessarily see themselves as self sufficient if the atheists are right christians are guilty of being morally weak and too cowardly to stand up for themselves if the christians are right the atheists are guilty of considerable arrogance i use the term atheist to refer to a person who has a definite conviction that there is no god as opposed to one who does not know and or does not care about god seanna watson bell northern research pray that at the end of living seanna bnr ca ottawa ontario canada of philosophies and creeds god will find his people busy opinion what opinions oh these opinions planting trees and sowing seeds no they re not bnr s they re mine i knew i d left them somewhere fred kaan let s see i spelled sowing right i got the author s name right maybe my rd iteration sig will be a keeper
