plus minus stat post of newsgroups rec sport hockey from maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard subject re plus minus stat organization dept of computer science laurentian university sudbury on date fri apr gmt discussion deleted good for you you d only be displaying your ignorance of course but to each his own roger i m not sure here but i think ignorance is really a function of a lack of knowledge and not formulating an opinion but hey if you need to take a cheap shot then by all means go ahead that s if it makes you feel better to knowledgeable observers of the game my meaning is obvious your hockey education is not my responsibility my hockey education what the f are you talking about i m not even going to try to refute this absolutely insane statement my word such vehemence against poor ol bob gainey why does he bother you so much he was an effective player for his style of play he was just another player to laud him as anything more i find bothersome i hated the habs i hated lafleur until i realized that he was likely the most aesthetically pleasing player to ever skate in my lifetime why would anyone talk about gainey i hate the habs you sound like a year old this statement is just further exemplifies your total inability to argue objectively about hockey don t give me this crap about cogent arguments i ve yet to read something of yours that is cogent you consistently argue with emotion huge sweeping statements frankly you have a very unconvincing style i m not defending bob gainey frankly i don t care for him all that much but your dismissal of him as something less than an effective hockey player is tiresome it has no basis in anything how many calders did he win i think it was four go ahead and refresh my memory what about the conn smythe was that a fluke yeah not the makings of a hockey superstar i know but try to have a reason any reason to shoot him down go around who would you rather have as your checking centre doug gilmour or doug jarvis for that matter i would take either gretzky or mario as my checking centres do you think gretzky could cover bob gainey i m really sorry roger but you have lost me completely here why don t you ask me if i would rather have jesus christ himself in nets did he play hockey at a high level was he any good if not why would you bother to bring jc up i am talking about hockey players here if you can t follow the conversation don t follow up as i said previously it is not my responsibility to educate you hey cowboy you re the expert who introduced the idiotic comparison of gainey with gretzky and lemieux you figure it out now if you were to compare say for example bob gainey with guy carbonneau you would have a balanced comparison sure two journeymen big deal neither one of them is worth discussing how many individual awards between them eight i don t remember once again please feel free to refresh my memory and try to be as sarcastic as possible about my hockey education i m wrong again hmmm let s see where was i wrong in the i would take fuhr and sanderson off of the latter oh my god did i say that roger what s your point fuhr is a goaltender goaltender s don t plug in his prime he was one of the best sanderson was a scrapper if you stick him on you may as well include half the flyers team of the same era first place i m only guessing here rog but i have a feeling that you ve setup a you re wrong again macro key on your machine that is an excellent idea and if i decide to waste any more time responding to any of your or greg s postings then i will be sure to implement that very macro oh roger you shouldn t really i don t deserve this you are far too accomodating already i would suggest that your comment and when the press runs out of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers grant fuhr essa tikkannen butch goring bob nystrom bob gainey doug jarvis derek sanderson wayne cashman bob baun bob pulford ralph backstrom henri richard dick duff and so on demonstrates a blanket disregard for these individuals as contributors to the game so yes settle down nobody has claimed that they are hockey gods tarasov claimed that gainey was a hockey god and greg ate it up and that is what this thread is all about if you didn t know that then why are you responding you seem to have allowed all of these other players fall into your sweeping vacuous statement that s why if you want to debate gainey go ahead but why bring up everybody else how does it support your argument do you have an argument or do you just like to throw around a few names hoping to impress us and as for blanket disregard for these individuals i can remember leaf teams purely populated by such individuals winning four stanley cups teams no one ran around telling us that george armstrong was the best hockey player in the world great i couldn t agree more the flyers won two cups for the same reasons deservedly so so what i don t get it are you angry that the leafs didn t get more recognition you seem to think these pluggers are hyped i don t agree plain and simple if you re last statement is some sort of compromise fair enough you might consider developing your own style after all imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and i am quite sure that flattery is not your intention c mon it has a nice ring to it and admit it you had a good laugh right i had to get to the end of your posting before i realized you were a complete joke not a pleasant bone in your body eh rog why are you so unhappy not getting invited to enough parties what in the future if you are going to respond to my postings i would appreciate it if you could present a cogent argument supported by facts gleaned from a version of reality that most of the rest of us would recognize roger why are you under the impression that responding to your posts is some great honour you really should stop it sounds a little bit pathetic frankly it s about as honourable as a good fart congenially as always jd james david j david student business uwo ca s j david sms business uwo ca james david western business school london ontario
