re my gun is like my american express card in article pa utkvm utk edu pa utkvm utk edu david veal says stuff deleted me what seems to be happening here is the situation getting totally blown out of proportion in my post i was referring to your regular patrolman in a car cruising around the city vs gang members of course the police have access to the things that you mentioned but do they use tanks and such all of the time of course they don t and that s the point i was trying to make every day when i go out to lunch i always see cops coming in the majority that i see are still carrying revolvers not that there is anything wrong with a revolver but if you re a cop that is up against some gang member with a couple of automatics in his coat i mean semi auto handguns you re going to be at a disadvantage even with training david this is the arms race fallacy that somehow bigger guns make an individual safer the problem is that for each corresponding level of offensive power the is not an automatic level of defense increase the problem is that there s a sort of lethality threshold that once you get past you re only talking about a metter of degree regardless of what cops are up against there s really no reason for the average beat cop to have anything bigger than a pistol on him as a personal weapon and maybe a rifle and a shotgun in the cruiser i mean think about it carrying a monster pistol or sub machinegun doesn t make the cop any less wounded if somebody shoots him a lot of police departenments have switched to semi automatics as better more reliable weapons and more stopping power but there s a point of diminishing returns this is a very very good point who cares what kind of gun you ve got if you re lying on the ground dead and as far as automatics go any gang member carrying around a couple of automatics an incredible rarity is going to be far more of a menace to himself and innocent bystanders than anything he might be tryinh to aim at one auto is hard enough to control anybody who could control two is going to get the police officer regardless of what the police officer is armed with more stuff deleted mostly mine my question is this what would a police officer gain from having a sub machinegun or similar personal weapon that he already doesn t have with a mm or mm semi automatic pistol i don t see as how the police should be hosing around full auto fire nor has my experience with police officers or the stats regarding how many police officers get killed by other cops made me feel such would be a good idea precise fire is far more preferable nor should they using bigger guns most standard sidearms have more then sufficient stopping power when properly applied all more powerful weapons would do is make the likelihood of death higher without really giving police significantly more options another very good point that is well taken it seems that when lots of lead is flying either the cops or the gangs someone innocent always gets caught in the crossfire david veal univ of tenn div of cont education info services group pa utkvm utk edu i still remember the way you laughed the day your pushed me down the elevator shaft i m beginning to think you don t love me anymore weird al all points made above are well taken i guess i am in the mindset of having more makes it better which is obviously not the correct mindset to take in this discussion now that i think about the situation a little more carefully i see your point exactly david and i wholeheartedly sp agree like i said i m just assuming that more bullets and or bigger bullets is better once again though i want to state that i am a pro gun individual and do not believe that gun control is really a viable option here in the united states regardless of the drivel that i spout here jason
