re question for those with popular morality in article apr microsoft com bobsarv microsoft com bob sarver writes why would it be immoral to hurt someone else me because you wouldn t want it to happen to you hudson why does that make something immoral because you are not being consistent moral systems must be consistent a person who thinks they can inflict pain on others but doesn t want it inflicted upon themselves has a double standard and double standards are a violation of any moral system me morality defines how we interact with other people the rules that we use to guide our daily affairs our conduct towards our fellow man by realizing that we don t like pain we can also realize that other people don t like it either hudson of course we don t like pain i don t like brussel sprouts are brussel sprouts immoral pain isn t immoral stupid pain itself is just a physiological reaction what is immoral is subjecting unwilling individuals to pain or brussel sprouts for that matter hudson is it immoral to produce these same chemical reactions in a test tube me it isn t the chemical reaction that is wrong bozo it s making the human being undergo the effects of the chemical reaction sorry your cute little analogy didn t survive for very long under scrutiny hudson why would it be wrong to make humans undergo the effects of the reactions if humans are composed only of matter what humans are composed of isn t the qualifying criteria of whether or not something would be wrong hudson is it wrong to make matter undergo chemical reactions yes if it is sentient matter me nature is not a sentient force there is no choice involved therefore no question of morality hudson i actually heard a geologist entertain the notion that matter had a will there is some sentient force out there fine i have also heard that the government is encoding the dna for a new race of superhumans in ordinary drinking water what s your point hudson if humans are made only of matter then choices are also chemical reactions so why is choice an important issue and if that is the case then god is only an idea contained in the minds of people formed of matter and on printed pages also formed of matter and does not really exist i can do the argumentem ad absurdium just as well as you can but it won t prove any points for you or me got anything relevant you want to talk about or are you just playing cute little games
