re islamic authority over women snm ultb isc rit edu s n mozumder writes in article apr wam umd edu west next wam umd edu writes and belief causes far more horrors crusades the emasculation and internment of native americans the killing of various tribes in south america the inquisition the counter reformation and the wars that followed the salem witch trials the european witch hunts the holy wars of the middle east the colonization destruction of africa the wars between christianity and islam post crusade the genocide biblical of the canaanites and philistines aryian invasion of india the attempted genocide of jews by nazi germany the current missionary assaults on tribes in africa i think all the horrors you mentioned are due to lack of people following religion d by lack of people following religion i also include fanatics people that don t know what they are following d so how do you know that you were right why are you trying to shove down my throat that religion causes horrors it really covers yourself something false to save yourself peace bobby mozumder i just thought of another one in the bible so it s definately not because of lack of religion the book of esther which i read the other day for other reasons describes the origin of pur im a jewish celbration of joy and peace the long and short of the story is that people were killed when people were tripping over all of the peacefull solutions lying about you couldn t swing a sacred cow without slammin into a nice peaceful solution course joshua and the jawbone of an ass spring to mind i agree with bobby this far religion as it is used to kill large numbers of people is usually not used in the form or manner that it was originally intended for that doesn t reduce the number of deaths directly caused by religion it is just a minor observation of the fact that there is almost nothing pure in the universe the very act of honestly attempting to find true meaning in religious teaching has many times inspired hatred and led to war many people have been led by religious leaders more involved in their own stomache contentsthan in any absolute truth and have therefore been driven to kill by their leaders the point is that there are many things involved in religion that often lead to war whether these things are a part of religion an unpleasant side effect or as bobby would have it the result of people switching between religion and atheism spontaneously the results are the same religious groups have long been involved in the majority of the bloodiest parts of man s history atheists on the other hand preen preen are typically not an ideological social caste nor are they driven to organize and spread their beliefs the overuse of nazism and stalinism just show how true this is two groups with very clear and specific ideologies using religious persecution to further their means anyone who cannot see the obvious namely that these were groups founded for reasons entirely their own who used religious persecution not because of any belief system but because it made them more powerfull is trying too hard basically bobby uses these examples because there are so few wars that were not specifically fought over religion that he does not have many choices well i m off to key west where the only flames are heating the bottom of little silver butter dishes ciao chris blask
