re my gun is like my american express card thomas parsli thomasp ifi uio no writes i hate long postings but this turned out to be rather lengthy that s ok you can mail me if you want more discussion acquiring weapons in norway you can buy almost all kinds of weapons in norway but you must have a permit and a good reason to get the permit around here long guns are proof of age and fill out the forms for pistols nation wide check for felonies and three days wait the good reason is the difference and one americans tend to get annoyed over as we see no reason the guy with the badge is any better than us it s a little like getting a drivers licence isn t it you have to prove that you can drive before you are allowed to not when dealing with america i can drive an wheel truck with no permit no license and at age if i m engaged in farming work strange that but there is little to no problem with this again personal rights versus collective security some crimes are commited with guns that have been in the owners arms for a long time but these are rather the exeption most criminals accuire guns to use them in crimes and mostly short time befor the crime strange that the rates would decline since killing somebody is much more frowned upon than merely stealing a gun use of knives it is allowed to cary knifes in public but not in your belt or open you americans think it s ok to have a gun but not to carry it open in public rigth why attract attention i carry my sword openly to and from practice as that is the only legal thing i can do i also attract a lot of attention doing this i d rather be lost in a crowd of one than be the subject of attention while carrying a weapon think of the word intimidation and you can see where intimidation is not the preferable method for the normal citizen scandinavians are aggressive we northeners are not as hot livered as southeners but when we decide to take action we do ask any historian or millitary with an knowledge of europe or ask any german who served in norway in ww aggressive towards whom southerners germans precisely why i think your society is less violent weapons aside yes the individual is more important than the masses but only to some extent your criminal laws are to protect the individuals who makes the masses what happens when the rigths of some individuals affects the rights of all the masses editor barf dan then the masses have the same rights as the individuals because everything comes down to the individual in one instance or another to draw an analogy norway is involved in the eec the usa in involved in nato the eec requires certain changes in your laws nato requires no such changes in usa law these laws affect citizens and hence norway is saying europe is more important than say norwegians having motorcycles that make over bhp in the usa we d likely tell the eec to get stuffed since the eec has no business in our eyes in telling us how much horsepower we can safely ride while i note that our own state governments often play with game with the federal government in essence this is a cultural difference between us if i lived in amerika i would probably have a gun to defend myselfe in home but should it have to be like that it shouldn t since neither of our countries has managed to remove criminals from society in america we feel and remember we have individual states that are larger than your country that if the police cannot protect us then we must do so ourselves the criminals in our country are quite violent hence we prepare for them do you think it s wise to sell guns like candy some states do if you believe it s smart neccacery to have drivers licence why do you think it should be free to buy guns we don t e mail me to find out just how difficult it really is in this country it is easier than in yours but theft is far easier than the troubles we go through to purchase over here i would defend my home loved ones and country but i don t view guns as neccities or toys they are neither they are an option we would never force you to own guns if you lived here we would however fight to keep that option open to you i have done army service and have used a variaty of weapons but wouldn t want to have one for self defence or because they feel good then you show you are a responsible rational user of weapons welcome to our ranks now how do we teach the young people this sort of responsibility cultures seem to have a grave impact here i notice you didn t use my great grandfather s name well he didn t like it much either dan sorenson dod z dan exnet iastate edu viking iastate edu isu only censors what i read not what i say don t blame them usenet post to exotic distant machines meet exciting unusual people and flame them
