re israeli expansion lust in article apr news columbia edu ayr cunixa cc columbia edu amir y rosenblatt writes in article spam maths adelaide edu au jaskew spam maths adelaide edu au joseph askew writes in article apr das harvard edu adam endor uucp adam shostack writes it depends entirely on how you define war the actual fighting largely predates the arab invasions after all deir yassin happened in midapril well before the arab invasion how do you define war do seiges and constant attacks on villiages count as acts of war or is that only when the jews do them i would hope that if you intend to have a reasonable discussion you might wait until i express an opinion before deciding i should be flamed for it as for war i am not sure how i would define it if you just look at attacks on villages then there is no way of deciding when it started would you count the riots in the s and s violence but not war i personally think that war as opposed to civil disturbance or whatever requires organisation planning and some measure of regualr or semi regular forces perhaps the arab liberation army counts i could easily be convinced it was so from what i know they did not have a great deal of planning let alone organisation the haganah and palmach certainly did that is not a cause for criticism it merely reflects the great organisation generally in the zionist camp of course this isn t war since it s only the arabs attacking now you are being silly aren t you in any case the war did not start with the invasion of the arab armies you see we both agree on something and the previous posters were wrong no just like last week when the fatah launched katyusha rockets against northern israel where does uprising end and war begin again i am not sure i doubt you want my opinion anyway but i think war requires organisation as i said before it needs a group to command and plan if fatah lauches rockets from southern lebanon and are you sure you have the right group not the moslems again then that sounds like war to me stone throwing does not joseph askew joseph askew gauche and proud in the autumn stillness see the pleiades jaskew spam maths adelaide edu remote in thorny deserts fell the grief disclaimer sue see if i care north of our tents the sky must end somwhere actually i rather like brenda beyond the pale the river murmurs on
