re question from an agnostic on may gmt damon math okstate edu hastings damon tod said a christian friend of mine once reasoned that if we were never created then we could not exist therefore we were created and therefore there exists a creator is this statement considered to be a valid proof by many christians and followers of other religions i suppose rest deleted some variant is quite popular this and other arguments are discussed in john leslie mackie s the miracle of theism arguments for and against the existence of god although mackie ultimately sides with against his arguments are i think quite fair to both sides brief discussions can be found in the alt atheism faqs bruce cmsr university of liverpool
