re auto air conditioning without freon markm bigfoot sps mot com mark monninger writes in article apr research nj nec com behanna syl nj nec com chris behanna writes several chemists already have come up with several substitutes for r you don t hear about them because the mobile air conditioning society macs that is the people who stand to rake in that to per retrofit per automobile have mounted an organized campaign to squash those r substitutes out of existence if not ban them altogether on very shaky technical grounds at best on outright lies at worst now i m not saying you re wrong because i know that the r substitutes exist but this sounds a lot like the mpg carbs that the oil companies keep us all from getting these substitutes exist and at this time are available its the future availability that is in doubt ghg get it from people s welding supply butane propane you can mix this yourself so no one can ever regulate it away just make sure you use good quality dry gases i don t know of any mpg carb distributors jon hacker get the os march beta cd rom caltech pasadena ca for call ibm os hacker tumbler ridge caltech edu read about it in comp os os beta
