re burden of proof in article r b inn lynx unm edu cfaehl vesta unm edu chris faehl writes in article r b hg aurora engr latech edu ray engr latech edu bill ray writes note followups go to alt atheism talk religion misc talk origins deleted if i make a statement that god exists loves me etc but in no way insist that you believe it does that place a burden of proof upon me if you insist that god doesn t exist does that place a burden of proof upon you i give no proofs i only give testimony to my beliefs i will respond to proofs that you attempt to disprove my beliefs if you say x statement and give it the authority of fact i will respond by asking you why you aren t obligated to say anything but if your intent is to convince me that x statement is true then yes the burden of proof is upon you if what was being discussed could be established or disproven by experiment and observation then i would agree with you chris the burden of proof would belong to bill but the source document for christianity the bible simply assumes god exists and makes it clear to us calvinists anyway that when a person is in fellowship with god it is because god has taken the initiative in revealing himself to that person so from a christian point of view the burden of proof belongs to god bill is being consistent with what the bible teaches in relating his own experience with god but it would be an error on his part to assume that there is a direct causal relationship between his testimony and someone else becoming convinced that god exists and that he needs to be reconciled to god if you are merely giving testimony to your beliefs then you are an egotist please excuse me if i missed an earlier part of this thread in which bill came across like an egotist what i saw was simply obedience to the scriptural command to always be ready to give a reason for the joy that is in you bill hamilton
