re clinton joins list of genocidal socialist leaders in article bb f d r vmcms csuohio edu r vmcms csuohio edu writes in article r rnn rdt usenet ins cwru edu bu cleveland freenet edu brandon d ray writes in a previous article nomad ecst csuchico edu michael larish says in article r ug d btr btr com michaelh public btr com michael hahn michaelh btr com writes a partial list of excellent socialist visionaries and the tolls they ve taken of unpopular religious ethnic social groups mao tse tung millions killed j stalin millions killed a hitler millions killed pol pot s killed w j clinton killed but relax he s only had a hundred or so days you people are rather amusing in a perverse sort of way you take a tragic unpleasant situation that you feel is a terrible injustace and assign blame to anybody and everybody with or without a link to the incident simply because they don t fit your extremely narrow definition of good how is clinton responsible it was a law enforcement action granted it was a nationally covered incident but clinton had no more to do with the outcome than fred flintstone perhaps you ve been under a rock the last few days the batf and the fbi are both federal agencies clinton has admitted in front of news cameras that janet reno the once and future attorney general gave him a full briefing of what was planned before they did it and he gave her the go ahead maybe just possibly that makes him a teensy bit responsible the fbi cia batf etc are federal agencies you are correct but to think there is a visible and clear chain of command up to the prez and that these agencies inform reno who informs clinton etc is naive these agencies operate as distinct and seperate entities and while they have ultimate accountability to the prez they make their own moves and then tell the prez who says i knew all along while this may not seem right or it may not fit our idealistic need to see a structured chain of command leading to the white house thats the way it is bureaucracys are not after all composed of or people who talk on a regular basis have lunch and maybe golf together i do agree the fbi batf messed up i m not sure if they should have stormed the compound or not by the way jehova witnesses are a religious minority in this country protestantism is a minority religion in the world bds were a cult by all definitions and history of cults to say this is not to persecute a religious or ethnic enclave koresh said he was the messiah i was raised a baptist although i do not practice the religion and do not think that the big guy upstairs is digging the divisiveness closemindedness and right wing morons that are associated with the religion anyway the messiah that i was taught about would not be carrying a gun let alone stockpiling weapons you can doubt batf reports all you want david koresh was not a poor soul who was unjustly persecuted while some of the information coming from the u s government is being exagerated so as keep public opinion on their side i do believe that some of the things that former cult members have said are true anyway this is just another excuse to try and blame president clinton for something people who attempt to do this for political motives should be ashamed they are the ones who are keeping this country from reaching its full potential you seem to make two points no one ultimately oversees the federal agencies you mention and since koresh apparently has a different view point from your baptist upbringing then he is not worthy of protection from religious persecution as to being the messiah is not christ within us all must be comforting to belong to a government approved religion baptists are a cult two btw under most of the definitions in the dictionary of cult jim jmd handheld com i m always rethinking that there s never been a day when i haven t rethought that but i can t do that by myself bill clinton april if i were an american as i am an englishman while a foreign troop was landed in my country i never would lay down my arms never never never william pitt earl of chatham nov
