re the truth about waco dhartung chinet chi il us dan hartung writes jgd dixie com john de armond writes the tanks were collapsing interior walls and ceilings putting people at great risk dear dear they could have come out then by your logic the jews in europe in the s were the cause for the holocaust hitler told them to leave and because they didn t they brought the whole thing on themselves because as you say they could have come out of germany there was no group instruction of any kind from koresh or his aids after the tank invasion referring to any kind of suicide pact or counter assault efforts it s ultimately irrelevant who lit the fire they had ample opportunity to leave same for the jews in europe s while he was there anyway outsiders rarely see abuse it s a secretive thing all we have to go on are the court documents in the jewell case and the mistrial in california you don t see any evidence of the abuse therefore it must be taking place as you point out everwhere but here it is irrelevant to this case the atf is not in charge of investigating child abuse no one was ever held against their wills and could have left at any time the people who were murdered in the fire were there by their own choices exactly by their own choice in obvious contradiction to the statements made by the f b i i have never judged them by their religion but by their actions and just what are those actions that you are judging them by their refusal to let the government control their lives their refusal to submit to unconstitutional laws their refusal to behave like cowards some of texas heros could have taken the cowardly way out too and surrendered the alamo after all all they had to do was come out they stayed as you say by their own choice problem is not everyone chooses to act like a groveling dog in the face of insurmountable odds but as you point out they certainly do have that right if they had lived a quiet religious life as they claimed there would have been no raid no siege and no deaths instead they chose courses of action at every turn that were at the very least stupid if not irrational the first was to stockpile weapons the second was to shoot federal agents the third was to stay inside bull they did in fact live a quiet religious life as they claimed the warrant was not issued because they stockpiled weapons it is not against the law to own as many guns as you want yet except in virginia the warrant was issued for some gun parts that are about the size of a half dollar certainly worth the lives of so many people don t you think just as we don t blame a cop who shoots a kid who had pointed a toy weapon at him i don t think the fbi deserves blame in this case you can forget that we business i certainly do blame them he who would trade his liberty for karl klingman security deserves neither american research group inc karl dixie com
