re cruel was re political atheists in article apr bmerh bnr ca dgraham bmers bnr ca douglas graham writes in article qnedm a fido asd sgi com livesey solntze wpd sgi com jon livesey writes in article ql mdinn gap caltech edu keith cco caltech edu keith allan schneider writes they spent quite a bit of time on the wording of the constitution i realise that this is widely held belief in america but in fact the clause on cruel and unusual punishments like a lot of the rest was lifted from the english bill of rights of according to jerry mander s in the absence of the sacred good book btw the great binding law of the iroquois confederacy also played a significant role as a model for the u s constitution furthermore apparently marx and engels were strongly influenced by a study of iroquois society using it as the prime example of a successful classless egalitarian noncoercive society mander goes on to say that both the u s and the u s s r would do well to study the original document figure out where each went wrong and try to get it right next time that s fascinating i heard that the chinese rather than the italians invented pasta jon
