re what right joakim ruud joakimr ifi uio no writes recently i ve asked myself a rather interesting question what right does god have on our lives always assuming there is a god of course in his infinite wisdom he made it perfectly clear that if we don t live according to his rules we will burn in hell well with what right can god make that desicion let s say for the sake of argument that god creates every one of us directly or indirectly it doesn t matter what then happens is that he first creates us and then turns us lose well i didn t ask to be created let s make an analogue if a scientist creates a unique living creature which has happened it was even patented does he then have the right to expect it to behave in a certain matter or die dear joakim let me begin by saying that these are excellent questions but that by asking you will find as many different explanations as there are respondents as a latter day saint i believe that all of us you me etc lived once as spirit children of god the father hebrews in the pre mortal existance in order to continue our eternal progression an earthly probationary time was required to live by faith not by sight to choose good over evil and to prepare ourselves in all things to become worthy of a higher order of existance we believe that all of god s spirit offspring were once assembled to discuss the specifics of this earthly sojourn one third chose for lucifer s plan most followed the firstborn the pre mortal jesus christ lucifer s aspirations i will exalt my throne above the stars of god isaiah etc resulted into the rebellion of his followers against the firstborn and those who followed him resulting in the casting out of lucifer who became satan the father of lies and one third of the hosts of heaven and his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven and did cast them to the earth revelation as demons evil spirits to get back on our choice to be born on this earth and to be subject to god and his plan for good or bad based upon our obedience and choices we made that choice individually god speaking to job where wast thou when i laid the foundations of the earth when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of god shouted for joy job we lost the knowledge of our pre mortal existance the veil of forgetful ness somewhere in psalms in order to live by faith not by sight you may not accept this scenario neither do quite a few who rely on the bible alone which offers only fragmentary insights into this particular aspect of our existence as individuals as sons and daughters of god who is god to impose its rules on us who can tell if god is really so righteous as god likes us to believe are all christians a flock of sheep unable to do otherwise that follow the rest hmmmmmmmmmmmm all christians by definition are a flock of sheep following the shepherd as they understand him but in any event not all christians believe in the same theology such as the one latter day saints believe in they will cry heresy and other accusations of perverting the doctrines of the bible while they themselves believe in a myriad of interpretations as found in their catechisms and various do it yourself bible study manuals as for me i have a personal conviction that the pre existance scenario as explained above is most in harmony with biblical doctrine some dead sea scroll books the pseudographion other jewish sources and last but not least modern day revelation on the subject i just want to point out that this is not sarcasm i mean it how should one deal with a man who is convinced that he is acting according to god s will and who there jokke fore believes that he is doing you a favour by stabbing you in the back voltaire casper c knies isscck byuvm bitnet brigham young university isscck vm byu edu ucs computer facilities
