re what was the immaculate conception someone quoted the following i ve removed the name because it s not clear which name goes with which level of quote clh and to holy mary virgin is invariably added for that holy woman remains undefiled st epiphanus of salamis panacea against all heresies between a d for the lord jesus would not have chosen to be born of a virgin if he had judged that she would be so incontinent as to taint the birthplace of the body of the lord home of the eternal king with the seed of human intercourse pope st siricius letter to anysius bishop of thessalonica a d on the basis of these examples i would say that joe moore was only wrong in claiming augustine as a prime mover of the sin sex view these quotes clearly equate sexuality with defilement and incontinance even within the marriage relationship else they would not apply to mary after her marriage to joseph so joe s assignment of the reasoning behind the concept of the perpetual virginity of mary does seem to be supported by these quotes sarima teradata com formerly tdatirv sarima or stanley friesen elsegundoca ncr com
