re the doctrine of original sin muddmj wkuvx bitnet writes but haven t all sinned and come short of the glory of god romans those that cite this scripture to claim that even babes require baptism neglect that sin is not imputed when there is no law romans therefore until someone is capable of comprehending god s laws they are not accountable for living them they are in the book of life and are not removed until they can make a conscious decision to disobey god a idler if babies are not supposed to be baptised then why doesn t the bible ever say so it never comes right and says only people that know right from wrong or who are taught can be baptised what christ did say was i solemly assure you no one can enter god s kingdom without being born of water and spirit do not be surprised that i tell you you must all be begotten from above could this be because everyone is born with original sin i presume you are quoting john my king james bible says except a man be born of water and of the spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of god john here man adult however this could be a quibble between translations we can also analyze to whom the lord is addressing marvel not that i said unto thee ye must be born again john here jesus is clearly directing his remarks to nicodemus a ruler of the jews not a child we can ask ourselves why the lord would even introduce the concept of spiritual re birth through baptism if newborn babies weren t free from sin a idler yup in john man is not in the original a better translation is no one can enter as in nrsv of course in jesus is addressing the person who came to him there are other places in the nt where he deals with children they ve been mentioned in other postings clh
