re welcome to police state usa in c si g hx dscomsa desy de hallam dscomsa desy de phill hallam baker writes in article apr cc usu edu slp k cc usu edu writes xref dscomsa alt activism talk politics misc path dscomsa dxcern mcsun uunet gatech howland reston ans net agate dog ee lbl gov hellgate utah edu cc usu edu slp k from slp k cc usu edu newsgroups alt activism talk politics misc subject re welcome to police state usa message id apr cc usu edu date apr mdt references apr cc usu edu c rusq m m news cso uiuc edu organization utah state university lines in article c rusq m m news cso uiuc edu azoghlin uxa cso uiuc edu very old freshman vof writes critisism is too easy what solutions do people have that would have been better than what the fbi had been doing for the last few months firstly they could have backed off when you put a power freak like david koresh in that kind of situation he is going to explode no pun intended koresh wanted to be a martyr and the government played right into his hands if the government hadn t given him the attention he wanted nothing would have ever happened secondly the davidians were expecting everything the government did they thought that they were facing the apocalypse and that they were to perish in fire they weren t scared of the fbi they are not the average hoods they are very devout followers of a religion psyops didn t work and the government got frustrated so they murdered them the batf should have left at the beginning they should have looked at koresh s personality instead they thought they have guns we have bigger guns let s go get em they botched it from day one they shouldn t have been there in the first place the above conveniently ignores the murder of four batf agents by the branch davidians in an unprovoked ambush any government that allows tinpot dictators to set up shop and declare a private state has drifted into anarchy there are laws to control the ownership of guns and the batf had good reason to beleive that they were being violated they set out to obtain a legal warrant and attempted to serve it only to be met with gunfire when they rang the doorbell the paranoid assertion that the batf fired first in an unprovoked assault assumes that the batf were on a death wish had they expected the b d to be anything other than peacefull citizens who would accept a search authorized by a court they would have turned up in a tank and broken the door down on day one the search was a no knock warrent meaning that what those on the scene see is a bunch of men with guns storming their compound and lobbing grenades at them the terms of the search warrent are secret and the batf has yet to even reveal what they were the stupidity was the attempt to serve a warant on the place by ludicrously underarmed and unprotected police they did not serve a warrent they basically attacked the compound and expected a surrender they had semiautomatics and concussion grenades that we know about look at the death and injury toll inflicted on both sides in the first battle and its difficult to believe that either side had any superiority in weapons if anyone on the net cares to suggest a sure fire method of bringing the murderes of four police officers to justice perhaps we could hear it
