re atf burns dividian ranch update in article r klv f transfer stratus com cdt sw stratus com c d tavares writes in article c v fv krt news cso uiuc edu irvine uxh cso uiuc edu brent irvine writes in article c uhuo awq usenet ucs indiana edu wwarf silver ucs indiana edu wayne j warf writes in article nate psygate psych indiana edu nate psygate psych indiana edu nathan engle writes yeah as information trickles in funny how that works funny yeah funny how you didn t wait for the fbi spokesdroid latest reversal of facts before proclaiming the bd s burned themselves to death if you won t believe anything the government says and the press is not reliable according to the same logic then what do you base your statements on wild speculation laced with a healthy dose of paranoia funny brent but so far we have heard two versions of the facts what the government says this includes what the government says that two survivors have said what koresh s lawyer who was actually inside the compound says including what he says that most of the survivors have said strange but they seem to disagree in most important particulars if anyone has actually seen news reports of any of the survivors speaking first hand feel free ot pitch in i may have missed it but my money is that their story will sound a hell of a lot like case and not at all like case since neither side would be particularly interested in telling the truth you have to weigh the facts given by each yourself and weigh it with the newsreporting if you care many cult members will probably side with the attorney and if he is lying change their stories to match his and if the feds also lie the cult members who become disillusioned will change their stories to match the feds neither sides are interested in the truth the media is more interested but usually either don t have the time to get it straight or tie themselves to the ratings and deliberately distort for me though the black soot billowing outside the compound added with how fast the fire spread ponted to someone dousing large parts of the compound with some sort of gasoline or fire starter i doubt the feds did that as they were more interested in arresting vernon the real unbalanced one at least the one that lost his cool was vernon so i figured that he was more likely to do it after all he was jesus being persecuted by the authorities and had followers to hold onto so made the decision he and his followers also probably felt that they were rocketing to heaven by doing this stuff thsi conclusion i came to after umpteen million hours of listening to npr and other radio shows i always have the radio going when i am in my office on some innocuous talk show or news program as background noise personal opinions why brent irvine yes what did you think irvine uxh cso uiuc edu they were
