re clipper considered harmful restated and amplified if the crooks use an innocent person s clipper phone on the tapped line there s no problem the feds don t care whose phone instrument is used just that the conversation is by the suspect on the tapped line they get the serial number get the keys and they are in business no clipper chip to person association is ever needed yeah but who wants to start a pool on the first person arrested mistakenly and has their life turned upside down because some law enforcement agency does make a chip person association i wonder if there are any plans to keep these records e g encode the serial number into the upc scanned at k mart along with the credit card info voila at least your phone number tends to only locate to your house or whatever i e to be coming from your telephone number the person likely is in your house etc plus or minus some shenanigans of course but i d hate to think of these guys getting the clipper id recording the conversation then doing a quick cross lookup and your name comes up as owner of that id mistakenly maybe you sold the phone at a garage sale or the phone was stolen from your car or whatever they might only know who one side of the conversation is for example anyone who thinks the govt is forbidden by law to cross correlate such databases loses two points first law enforcement agencies can of course do this second they re only forbidden from budgeting any money for it the irs for example does do this anyhow they just don t spend any money on it so it s technically legal i guess instead they probably trade little favors with companies like mastercard if you re the irs i ll bet you have a lot of opportunities to trade favors with major corps for their databases i know an irs guy read an amazing list off to me from his screen i could hear him typing to pull up each screen once on the phone during a dispute i had with them to intimidate me actually not much of a dispute i didn t particularly disagree but for some reason this fellow wanted to play tough guy with me i hope he s better now amazing stuff he had at his finger tips be afraid barry shein software tool die bzs world std com uunet world bzs purveyors to the trade voice login wrld
