re effectiveness calibre jtchew csa lbl gov ad absurdum per aspera writes from psc sei cmu edu peter capell on rec martial arts i m sure such weapons have been developed our society does not however condone their possession or use actually joe i wrote the above peter was responding to my article i m actually rather confused by your post i suppose i didn t make myself clear cause you seem to have gotten exactly the opposite impression from what i intended i suppose the authorities might have been a better term than society carry and use a firearm in many parts of the country certainly the parts i live in and expect at the very least to have an awful lot of explaining to do and there is also appears to be a trend in society at large that actively opposes what many see as their right to defend themselves in a few other parts of our society handguns are banned or so restricted as to be practically unavailable to the law abiding citizen for self defense outside the home funny though how the criminals in such places continue to have a lush supply of guns and no compunctions about using them imho you don t need to be either a political philosopher or a crime victim to realize that there s a flaw in the gun grabbers logic agreed you re welcome to your ho too the first amendment being as important as the second but please don t let your obvious good intentions be subverted by insupportable generalities about something as big and diverse as us society my only intention was to comment that the existence of suitable weapons of self defense doesn t mean you ll escape a whole shitload of trouble should you be forced to use them or by the naive hope that making gun possession a crime will give pause to someone who would be a criminal anyway i made no such statements nor do i have such a naive hope or outlook wishing you peace and the wherewithal to defend yourself if others thoughts are not that kindly that s all i want the opportunity to leave in peace or to have the means to defend myself when that in not possible i think we agree on this issue i guess my position didn t survive the transition from cognition to ascii garry hodgson a slow winter day at t bell labs a night like forever garry alice att com sink like a stone att alice garry float like a feather
