re to rob lanphier in article apr organpipe uug arizona edu brian lpl arizona edu brian ceccarelli wrote kent with regards to the information contained in the bible which is the original context of this thread brian kendig is inside a huge wall brian is inside the bible and the information contained therein are outside the wall brian kendig proves this very sad fact by the absurd things he says for example if i get through into the firey pit i will cease to exist the bible doesn t say that he hasn t a clue even to what jesus said about hell that is but one example looking at your discussion i would say that you both operate from your own reference frame there s no inside and no outside there are just two polarized views as for statements inside the bible things are still not that clear we don t have any indications for instance why jobs was placed in the old testament one of the few books that actually talks about satan jobs is very much out of line with the rest of the ot books and there s a chance that someone added this book later into the group of ot scriptures now in your sense kent of sensing reality that is a different matter and to you and to brian relativity does play a big role what we perceive to be true depends on our vantage point since i have read the bible and brian kendig shows that he hasn t he has a narrower perspective than mine at least in the respect of knowledge of the bible i am proposing to brian brian come up here and take a look from this vantage point but brian replies i rather not thank you i am content where i am besides the vista from up there stinks and in the meanwhile brian ignores the facts that he has never up there nor does he realize i had shared the same plateau where brian now stands this operates the other way around as well you have to understand the mind of an atheist agnostic or as in my case a radical relativist if you don t understand the underlying concepts it is pretty hard to continue with a dialogue i m not a perfect christian however about years of christian teaching should have provided me with a pretty good picture of the christian mind frame cheers kent sandvik newton apple com alink ksand private activities on the net
