re batf fbi murders almost everyone in waco today in c rynw iz news udel edu roby chopin udel edu scott w roby writes and i suppose the fbi also prevented them from coming out with their hands up while national tv cameras watch would you have come out if you knew the only national tv cameras were well over a mile away and yet the agents with the guns were only a few yards away they had contact with a lawyer so i am inclined to believe they had an idea of what their situation actually was this also leads to the conspiracy theory that the lawyer had the batf pinned on rights violations if the bd s acted as witnesses hence the arson i doubt that one too but it is still quite clear that leaving a safe place to surrender is a rather stupid thing to do until that place is no longer safe do you disbelieve everything the fbi says as a matter of course given how they ve allowed no other views to be heard i ll reserve judgement until the trial but so far as the fbi is concerned their statements carry the same amount of weight as photons at rest the batf is by no means devoid of fault in the handling of this affair but to suggest that they may have intentionally started the fire is ludicrous ludicrous yes possible yes plausible get the jury if the fire were set by accident or by people outside the compound i would have expected far more cult members to flee the compound or at least come out shooting that s what gets me too it is likely the cult members were holed up in an enforced place inside the building with a decent arson attempt i suspect many of them could have been trapped in addition the introduction of cs gas for several hours would have rendered many of them immobile if not unconscious when their masks quit all the props are there but proving what scene was played is difficult the only certainty is that the fbi and batf have few witnesses against them dan sorenson dod z dan exnet iastate edu viking iastate edu isu only censors what i read not what i say don t blame them usenet post to exotic distant machines meet exciting unusual people and flame them
