re the doctrine of original sin just a quick reminder the way you are interpreting those passages is your opinion you make it sound as if your opinion is somehow an undisputable fact many would interpret the passages you cite very differently many have several of the great theologians you mentioned do that very thing these were people who had much more expertise in the interpretation of scripture than you or me or probably anyone reading this newsgroup to say that all of them are wrong and you are right is in my opinion notice those last three words coming pretty darn close to the sin of pride in the future i would suggest you not be so absolutist in your interpretations especially when contradicting highly respected doctors of christianity mike walker mdw uxa cso uiuc edu univ of illinois
