is there any security in the clipper it seems to me that all discussions about clipper security are almost irrelevant if i cannot choose the key but have to use a key chosen for me by the foundry the security of the whole universe of users is as good or as bad as the security of vlsi technologies inc it is a trivial effort to run any ciphertext agains all the keys ever manufactured after all we are talking about to million keys that will ever be manufactured the key depositories can be as secure and incorruptible as they wish to be nobody cares anyway now if someone would convince me that the shipping docks of vti att and others are impenetrable remember the chips have to ship with the key you or the dealer are going to submit it to the authorities eventually i d be a bit happier but do we really believe that the various governments including ours won t have the full lists of all the keys ever manufactured did i miss something here my own opinions quite obviously from ze ev wurman email zeev key amdahl com or zeev ccc amdahl com organization amdahl corp landing parkway m s freemont ca phone office fax attn zeev wurman
