re israeli expansion lust in article spam maths adelaide edu au jaskew spam maths adelaide edu au joseph askew writes in article apr das harvard edu adam endor uucp adam shostack writes in article apr bnr ca zbib bnr ca writes imho it does not really matter who started any individual battle within the arabs isreal war context the real question is who what started the war does anyone have any doubts it was the creation of israel on arab land huh a war was started when several armies invaded israel vowing to drive the jews into the sea most jews wanted to live in peace and the arabs who stayed in israel were granted citizenship it depends entirely on how you define war the actual fighting largely predates the arab invasions after all deir yassin happened in midapril well before the arab invasion as i have said elsewhere lt col lorch has said that hagana forces were fighting well before the arabs invaded as in months before as for jews wanting to live in peace that to is entirely arguable i think it is easy enough to show that the labour party leadership had no such intention at all as for the arabs who stayed don t you mean those who were not expelled even some of those who did stay were not granted citizenship but expelled after the fighting had stopped anyway joseph askew how do you define war do seiges and constant attacks on villiages count as acts of war or is that only when the jews do them january arab liberation army attacks kfar szold men attack kfar etzion miles south of jerusalem after cutting off the supply lines to it attacks on yehiam western galilee and kibbutz tirat tzvi by mid march the jewish settlements in the negev had been cut off from land links with the rest of the jewish population the etzion group of villiages near hebron had been cut off while members of a convoy trying to supply yehiam were slaughtered cutting off the villiage jerusalem was under seige being cut off from its supply route from tel aviv the bombed out supply trucks have been left on the side of that road to this day in memoriam by this time jews had been killed of course this isn t war since it s only the arabs attacking just like last week when the fatah launched katyusha rockets against northern israel where does uprising end and war begin will it still be intifadah when the plo brings in tanks joseph askew gauche and proud in the autumn stillness see the pleiades jaskew spam maths adelaide edu remote in thorny deserts fell the grief disclaimer sue see if i care north of our tents the sky must end somwhere actually i rather like brenda beyond the pale the river murmurs on amir
