re bhagavad gita kalki dasa writes these topics are all discussed in the vedas in fact the original knowledge of all these topics comes from the vedas therefore they are not newage at all they are rather old by any standards nor is the popularity they are currently experiencing something new one would think that the vedas would be very popular among newagers since all the things you mention above are thoroughly described in them isn t that interesting in the jewish tradition you are incredibly wrong they originate in the torah and with jewish ancestors specifically the patriarch abraham z l that knowledge was sent east to india and china when abraham gave gifts the commentators to jewish scripture say this was the knowledge of the occult arts to all the rest of his children when he sent them away to the east this assured that isaac only who remained with abraham would inherit his most important spiritual gifts what eventually became judaism so you see other religions can have very parochial views too by the jewish view you are very mistaken your scripture are not scripture your gods are not gods your practices a jumble of errors that lead people to idol worship and away from god that doesn t stop us from respecting you to the extent of not trying to convert you or proselytize you and being willing to dialog in a respectful manner we re content to let you live the way you care to live as long as you leave us be we are happy to co exist as long as you give us the same right but your incredible rudeness and violent nature seems to preclude that too bad is this typical of your religion however there is one difference between the newage practitioner and the actual follower of the vedic teachings the typical newager desires to acquire all the material powers and opulences mentioned in the vedas without referring to their source the lord he wants the kingdom of god without god he wants personal power without the responsibility of acknowledging its source without the person from whom that power comes in other words he is just plain selfish you are a most presumptuous fellow how dare you presume that the typical new ager doesn t acknowledge god and is selfish what trite self righteous ego ful garbage there are buddhists christians jews and those of many other religions here on this newsgroups for whom your words are simple slander the vedic follower on the other hand knows that no matter what one desires one must worship god and the vedas give a complete description of exactly who is god so that there can be no mistake in his identification for this reason the parts of the vedas that deal directly with the personality of godhead are not very popular among newagers and anyone who presents the complete vedas as they are is branded as an evangelist as if there is something wrong with that even though he is simply presenting the unadulterated vedic teachings of course from the jewish perspective you are incredibly wrong we d say that there is no godhead just created beings who may be enjoying a good laugh at your expense a thief takes from others and says this is mine a newager takes from god and says this is mine such a false mystic must be careful to avoid coming in contact with the real owner of the things he has stolen consequently he invents an explanation for these things that conveniently omits the identity of their owner the lord in other words he lies about where he got them so not only are we selfish we are also thieves and liars and you expect any of us to pay attention to you and your religion why not call us more name maybe then we ll all convert in gratefullness however the lord is very merciful and he sends his servants to remind the newager of his own identity as spirit soul the eternal servant of god hence although unwanted the evangelist continues to broadcast the complete truth you delude yourself len moskowitz moskowit panix com
