re religion and history the real discuss matthew huntbach writes sm a real christian unless you re born again is a very fundamental biblical sm conversion and regeneration are probably part of some small usa based cult the born again tag often use it to mean very specifically having undergone some sort of ecstatic experience which can in fact be very easily manufactured with a little psychological manipulation and are often insultingly dismissive of those whose christianity is a little more intellectual is not the result some of these cults which seems like a rather dismissive term to me are pretty big here in the usa most of them are quite respectable neiborly do not resemble branch davidians in the least confusing them is a mistake what about live let live folks i m sure we can uncover a few extremist loonies who are catholic the anti abortion movement in the usa seems to have a few hard cases in it for example i ve often heard such people use the line catholics aren t real christians indeed anyone sending missionaries to ireland must certainly be taking this line for otherwise why would they not be content for christianity to be maintained in ireland in its traditional catholic form i have to agree matthew with this i have certainly encountered a lot of anti catholic religion propaganda emotion some bigotry from members of certain religious groups here they also practice their missionary work with zeal among catholics in the united states but to someone who is or was raised catholic such rhetoric is pretty off putting it may work better in an environment where there s a lot of popular anti clericalism follow ups set elsewhere this no longer seems very relevant to celtic issues to me
