re after years can we say that christian morality is in article qjahh mrs horus ap mchp sni de frank d s uucp frank o dwyer writes in article pww spac at rice edu pww spacsun rice edu peter walker writes in article qie fkt horus ap mchp sni de frank d s uucp frank o dwyer wrote objective morality is morality built from objective values but where do those objective values come from how can we measure them what mediated thair interaction with the real world a moralon or a scalar valuino field science the real world has its basis in values not the other way round as you would wish it if there is no such thing as objective value then science can not objectively be said to be more useful than a kick in the head simple theories with accurate predictions could not objectively be said to be more useful than a set of tarot cards you like those conclusions i don t i think that you are changing the meaning of values here perhaps it is time to backtrack and take a look at the word value n a fair equivalent or return for something such as goods or service monetary or material worth worth as measured in usefulness or importance merit a principle standard or quality considered inherently worthwhile or desirable precise meaning as of a word an assigned or calculated numerical quantity mus the relative duratation of a tone or rest the relative darkness or lightness of a color the distinctive quality of a speech or speech sound in context of a moral system definition four seems to fit best in terms of scientific usage definitions six or eight might apply note that these definitions do not mean the same thing in my mind to say that science has its basis in values is a bit of a reach science has its basis in observable fact even the usages of the word value above do not denote observable fact but rather a standard of measurement i would conclude that science does not have its basis in values and so your statement above fails in fact if one concludes that a scientific set of measurements values are based on systems derived from observation then it must follow that in a scientific context there is no such thing as there is no such thing as objective values back to the present this has nothing to do with a moral system anyhow just because the word values is used in both contexts does not mean that there is a relationship between the two contexts if one is to argue for objective values in a moral sense then one must first start by demonstrating that morality itself is objective considering the meaning of the word objective i doubt that this will ever happen so back to the original question and objective morality is if you can provide an objective foundation for morality then that will be a good beginning frank o dwyer i m not hatching that odwyer sse ie from hens by evelyn conlon eric
