re islamic genocide in p psilink com robert knowles p psilink com writes date apr gmt from frank o dwyer frank d s uucp in article apr monu cc monash edu au darice yoyo cc monash edu au fred rice writes just borrowing your post mr rice in p psilink com robert knowles p psilink com writes are you sure that democracy is the driving force behind the massacres in east timor it is certainly odd that so many of the worlds massacres occur along religious lines independently of any claims to a democratic form of government are ireland and northern ireland considered democracies would you attribute their problems to democracy even though they are democracies which motivates them more religion or democracy mr rice was pointing out a fallacy in the assertion that islam is evil because some of those who claim to follow it are evil not asserting that democracy causes massacres as i read it that is right he was and i was pointing out that his use of indonesians killing the east timorese as a result of democracy was a bit weak because democracy is not much of a motivation for doing much of anything in indonesia from what i remember east timor was a former portguese territory which was forcibly annexed by indonesia last i heard over indonesians have died trying to keep east timor a part of indonesia being a former portuguese colony there is a strong catholic influence in east timor as i recall so it seems a bit odd that yet again we have another war being fought between people who just happen to have different religions purely coincidental i guess but then the real motivation is to get the vote out and make democracy work in indonesia i pointed out the secession movement in aceh which has also been brutally dealt with in the past by the indonesian government the harshly with all secessionist movements the evidence it appears to me that the indonesian government has dealt very harshly with all secession movements i know that the head of the indonesian armed forces for a very long time was benny murdani a christian indonesia has been heavy handed in east timor for a long time even when murdani was head of the armed forces the people who make up the indonesian government are in general motivated by national interests not religious ones fred rice darice yoyo cc monash edu au
