plus minus stat post of newsgroups rec sport hockey from maynard ramsey cs laurentian ca roger maynard subject re plus minus stat organization dept of computer science laurentian university sudbury on date thu apr gmt in ld b w w sms business uwo ca j david sms business uwo ca james david writes it was bryan trottier not denis potvin it was a vicious boarding from behind trottier was given a major perhaps it was trottier it happened behind the habs goal if i recall gainey simply didn t have his head up as he was picking up the puck but roger what the hell does this have to do with gainey s skill as a hockey player if probert smashes gilmour s head into the boards next week will that diminish your assessment of gilmour s skills if gilmour was taken completely by surprise as gainey was then yeah i would have to say that doug wasn t playing technically smart hockey in any case to claim as greg did that gainey never made a technical mistake is absolutely ludicrous later on in your posting you make reference to putting words into other people s mouths i would suggest that your last paragraph can only be interpreted in one way namely that i along with greg claim that gainey never made a technical mistake if you actually read what i ve written you will find that i make no such claim soooo if logic serves me well you re contradicting yourself gainey was a plugger and when the press runs out of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers grant fuhr essa tikkannen butch goring bob nystrom bob gainey doug jarvis derek sanderson wayne cashman bob baun bob pulford ralph backstrom henri richard dick duff and so on i would take fuhr and sanderson off of the latter good for you you d only be displaying your ignorance of course but to each his own roger i m not sure here but i think ignorance is really a function of a lack of knowledge and not formulating an opinion but hey if you need to take a cheap shot then by all means go ahead that s if it makes you feel better i think gainey would be honoured to know that you ve included him i think gainey should feel honoured to know that he is remembered at all my word such vehemence against poor ol bob gainey why does he bother you so much he was an effective player for his style of play on this list i also think you have a relatively naive view about what wins a hockey game pluggers are an integral part of certainly pluggers are an integral part of any team and that is simply because there are not enough solid two way players to go around who would you rather have as your checking centre doug gilmour or doug jarvis for that matter i would take either gretzky or mario as my checking centres do you think gretzky could cover bob gainey i m really sorry roger but you have lost me completely here why don t you ask me if i would rather have jesus christ himself in nets now if you were to compare say for example bob gainey with guy carbonneau you would have a balanced comparison any team the selke is designed to acknowledge their contribution i think that most people understand that it s not the nobel prize so settle down you re wrong again the selke is awarded to the forward that does the best job defensively and this may or may not be the best plugger if gilmour does the best defensive job in the league i don t see why he should be out of the running simply because he also contributes offen sively i m wrong again hmmm let s see where was i wrong in the first place i m only guessing here rog but i have a feeling that you ve setup a you re wrong again macro key on your machine i agree that my use of the word plugger is simplistic but i think you know what i m getting at i would also like to point out that gilmour s potential as a selke winner was never part of the debate are you asking me for an opinion if so i think there are far too many other deserving players to include gilmour among the candidates settle down if you think that i have likened the selke to the nobel prize then i suggest that you had best settle down and if you are going to try to put words in my mouth let me suggest that you settle down before you bother following up on my postings i would suggest that your comment and when the press runs out of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers grant fuhr essa tikkannen butch goring bob nystrom bob gainey doug jarvis derek sanderson wayne cashman bob baun bob pulford ralph backstrom henri richard dick duff and so on demonstrates a blanket disregard for these individuals as contributors to the game so yes settle down nobody has claimed that they are hockey gods congenially as always jd james david david student business uwo ca you might consider developing your own style after all imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and i am quite sure that flattery is not your intention c mon it has a nice ring to it and admit it you had a good laugh congenially as always jd james david david student business uwo ca j david sms business uwo ca james david western business school london ontario
