re after years can we say that christian morality is in article qme c k kyle eitech com ekr kyle eitech com eric rescorla writes in article qm b gn horus ap mchp sni de frank d s uucp frank o dwyer writes in article qktj bn squick eitech com ekr squick eitech com eric rescorla writes in article qkn t l horus ap mchp sni de frank d s uucp frank o dwyer writes like i said before des works whether i value my privacy or not o k which des the abstract function des that stops working in any important sense if no one cares for the importance of truth mathematics meaning information etc a des chip or des s w that stops working in any important sense if no one values science objective reality etc des does not work in a value vacuum nothing else does either this is just truth by blatant assertion your in any important sense seem to be just weasel words imagine that i have a box which accepts bytes and uses the first to ecb the second it still does a perfect job of desing whether or not any input is being made at the time whether or not anyone values mathematics if no one looks at the results or acknowledges their correctness in what meaningful sense can the chip be said to work does flibozity exist by flibozity i mean a particular extremely complex configuration of physical phenomena which no one absolutely no one cares about in the slightest does it exist eric getting back to the question of whether the des chip works doesn t work mean something like achieving the desired expected effect note the way intentionality subtly underlies that definition even if we take the definition as expected instead of desired can you deny that conformance to expectations is itself a value of sorts namely the scientific values of accuracy of prediction and reproducibility of results the phenomenologist husserl for one considered intentionality to be the primary ontological stuff from which all other ontology was built perceptions consciousness thoughts etc frank is by no means alone in seeing intentionality or values as he puts it underlying all human experience even the so called objective experiences such as measurements of the natural world or the output of your des chip kevin
