re new newsgroup soc religion islam ahmadiyya mr esam abdel rahem writes i urge you all to vote no to the formation of the news group ahmadya islam if they want to have their own group the word islam shouldnot be attached to the name of such group we don t consider them as muslims dr tahir ijaz comments on esam abdel rahem s statement but the problem is we consider ourself to be muslims even though you don t luckily faith is determined by what one believes and is a personal matter you cannot declare the faith of someone else mr jawad ali then comments on tahir ijaz s statement you are not considering the consequences of your argument the converse would be that the problem is that muslims dont consider ahmadies to be muslims who one considers to be one s co believer is also a personal matter it would be just as wrong to tell the muslims who should be included in their self defination the argument by jawad ali is funny he writes the converse would be that the problem is that muslims dont consider ahmadies to be muslims which is a wrong statement in the light of dr ijaz s statement the above statement should be corrected is that some non ahmadi muslims don t consider ahmadi muslims as muslims so the problem does not get solved who is a muslims and who is not humans cannot decide humans may not declare others faiths its that simple i don t understand why the mere use of the word islam is becomming such a big issue i have seen numorous postings on the net on this subject and all they say no no you cannot use islam as the name of your newsgroup i haven t seen a single posting stating what right do they have in declaring the name of other s faiths who gives them this authority quran or hadith or something else i want to know this just a small reminder to all my muslim brothers did ever the holy prophet of islam muhammad pbuh say to anyone who called himself a muslim no you are not a muslim never i challenge all my muslim brothers to produce a single such evidence from the history of islam hence if the prophet muhammad could never do that to anyone how could the muslims mullahs or even governments of today do it to anyone do you consider yourself above the holy prophet muhammad pbuh sincerely nabeel note love for all views abeel ana hatred for none are e mail rana rintintin colorado edu mine
