re is it good that jesus died in article bskendigc l jm netcom com bskendig netcom com brian kendig writes john most assuredly i say to you unless a grain of wheat falls onto the ground and dies it remains alone but if it dies it produces much grain he who loves his life will lose it and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life if anyone serves me let him follow me and where i am there my servant will be also if anyone serves me him my father will honor why would i want an eternal life if i hate this one again you missed jesus s point if you read the surrounding passages you would understand what jesus means by life in the world but as is you bumbled around asserted your standard axiom that the bible is bunk and came up with the wrong idea also you do not know exactly what jesus means by eternal life brian k do you expect to jump in the middle of the quantum mechanics book and understand hermite polynomials having not read the surrounding material why do you such with the bible for an idea what jesus means by the world look up references to it in your concordance for a good description the whole book of ecclesiastes is game for eternal life check out john john you will find that eternal life is quite different than what you think eternal life starts now an infinitely high quality of life living in fellowship with god in short even if your deity does exist that doesn t automatically mean that i would worship it i am content to live my own life and fend for myself so when i die i can be proud of the fact that no matter where i end up it will be because of my actions and my choices if your god decides to toss me into a flaming pit for this then so be it i would much rather just cease to exist but if your god wants my respect and my obedience then it had better earn these and if it does then they will be very strong and true if my diety exists you would not just cease to exist jesus talks of hell in luke you ve got to understand my point of view i see christians spouting bible verse all the time as if it were some sort of magic spell that will level all opposition truth is it s not robert has never demonstrated that he actually understands what the verses imply he just rattles them off day by day some brazenly fly in the face of common sense and reality and i point these out where i can the truth is is that it is not some sort of magic spell the truth is is that you do not understand it and enjoy not understanding it christanity is a very nice belief set around a very nice book wrong again christianity is supposed to be relationship you do not even know what christianity is and you are arguing against it and in my opinion you re bumbling about blindly making up entities where there aren t any and depriving yourself of a true understanding and enjoyment of your life as long as you keep your beliefs to yourself i ll keep my beliefs to myself but as soon as you start waving them around expect me to toss in my opinions too just as i make up such places as jericho jerusalem babylon corinth ephesus susa and such kings as nebuchanezzar david solomon sennacherib herod pontius pilate but i guess then that you treat abraham lincoln as a myth like you do odin and zeus
