re deir yassin in article r f ge morrow stanford edu as vxf forsythe stanford edu vic filler writes in article apr cs rit edu bdm cs rit edu brendan d mckay writes i have previously posted quotations by irgun participants that totally destroys begin s whitewash i have no particular desire to post it yet again brendan normally bdm cs anu edu au you apparently think you are some sort of one man judge and jury who so what are you can declare total victory and then sit back and enjoy the applause but you ve picked the wrong topic if you think a few rigged quotations can sustain the legend and lie of the deir yassin massacre i don t think that you are just making noise you have a lot to learn when it comes to historical methodology that s true i try to learn from people who know more than me not from useless farts at the most basic level you should know that there is a big difference between weighing evidence fairly and merely finding quotations that support your preset opinions of course i have said that more times in this group than anyone else i d think if you have studied the history of israel at all you must know that many of the sources of your quotations have an axe to grind and therefore you must be very careful about whom you quote for quite true that s why i am so careful in selecting quotes example meir pa il whom you cite was indeed a general a scholar and a war hero but that doesn t mean everything that comes out of his mouth is gold in fact and here your lack of experience shows pa il is such a fanatic embittered leftist that much of his oh bullshit fanatic my bum prove your blah or cork it anti israel blathering forget about anti irgun blathering would be considered something like treason in non israel contexts but of course you don t consider this at all when you find a juicy quotation that you can use to attack israel how would you know what i consider read my mind benny morris of hashomer hatzair represents himself as a scholar when he rehashes the old attacks on the irgun don t be fooled it s just the old zionist ideological catfight surfacing as an attack on the then likud government if you will look closely at the section on deir yassin in his book on the war of independence you will see his indictment to be pure hot air and this is the best he can do after decades of digging for any sort of damning evidence unfortunately for him because his book parades itself as scholarly he is forced to put footnotes so you can clearly see that his deir yassin account is based on nothing i looked very closely at a large number of sources you have no idea what you are talking about the deir yassin massacre never took place as the propagandists tell it any more than the sabra and shatila massacres do you get that s true about the accounts of both irgun and arab propagandists like begin for example the feeling people like to blame the jews for massacres even if no i never got that feeling i got rather opposite feelings about people like you though they have to make them up it must sound spicy even some jews like to do it for reasons of their own honesty perhaps you would explain the testimony from members of the irgun to be found in their own handwriting in the irgun archives in tel aviv that the wounded arabs were killed that a group of prisoners was massacred that lehi proposed exterminating everybody at the pre raid meeting exactly what reasons can you propose that this testimony should be rejected in favour of begin s please don t confuse any of you deir yassin massacre stuff with facts or scholarship you should stick to begin s version unless you find something serious to contradict it this is very funny you carried on about unsupported evidence propagandists axes to grind and you end up telling us to stick to the account of the leader of the alleged killers you are obviously a hopeless case as everyone can plainly see vic brendan
