after all armenians exterminated million muslim people there in article c y o a news cso uiuc edu hovig uxa cso uiuc edu hovig heghinian writes article i have no partisan interests i would just like to know what conversations between terpetrosyan and demirel sound like very simple x soviet armenian government must pay for their crime of genocide against million muslims by admitting to the crime and making reparations to the turks and kurds after all your criminal grandparents exterminated million muslim people between and c yybt zo news cso uiuc edu hovig uxa cso uiuc edu hovig heghinian to which i say hear hear motion seconded you must be a new arromdian you are counting on asala sdpa arf crooks and criminals to prove something for you no wonder you are in such a mess that criminal idiot and its forged non existent junk has already been trashed out by mutlu cosar akgun uludamar akman oflazer and hundreds of people moreover asala sdpa arf criminals are responsible for the massacre of the turkish people that also prevent them from entering turkiye and trnc sdpa has yet to renounce its charter which specifically calls for the second genocide of the turkish people this racist barbarian and criminal view has been touted by the fascist x soviet armenian government as merely a step on the road to said genocide now where shall i begin from ahmet eecg toronto edu parlakbilek ahmet subject yalanci liar davidian keywords davidian the biggest liar message id jan jarvis csri toronto edu following is the article that davidian claims that hasan mutlu is a liar from dbd urartu sdpa org david davidian message id urartu sdpa org in article jan jarvis csri toronto edu ahmet eecg toronto edu ahmet parlakbilek asked a simple question ap i am asking you to show me one example in which mutlu coras or any other ap turk was proven to lie i can show tens of lies and fabrications of ap davidian like changing quote even changing name of a book anna the obvious ridiculous armenians murdered million moslems is the most outragious and unsubstantiated charge of all you are obviously new on this net so read the following sample not one but three proven lies in one day start yalanci txt some parts are deleted in article aug cbnewsd att com the usenet scribe for the turkish historical society hbm cbnewsd att com hasan b mutlu continues to revise the history of the armenian people let s witness the operational definition of a revisionist yalanci or liar in turkish yalanci according to leo yalanci yalanci the situation is clear on one side we have peace loving turks yalanci and on the other side peace loving armenians both sides minding yalanci their own affairs then all was submerged in blood and fire indeed yalanci the war was actually being waged between the committee of yalanci dashnaktsutiun and the society of ittihad and terakki a cruel and yalanci savage war in defense of party political interests the dashnaks yalanci incited revolts which relied on russian bayonets for their success yalanci yalanci l kuper genocide its political use in the twentieth century yalanci new york p this text is available not only in most bookstores but in many libraries on page we find a discussion of related atrocities which is title of the chapter the topic on this page concerns itself with submissions to the sub commission on prevention of discrimination of minorities of the commission on human rights of the united nations with respect to the massacres in cambodia there is no mention of turks nor armenians as claimed above vay sarsak vay yobaz vay yalanci vay turk milletinin yuz karasi mutlu vay the depth of foolishness the turkish historical society engages in while covering up the turkish genocide of the armenians is only surpassed by the ridiculous historical material publicly displayed david davidian dbd urartu sdpa org the life of a people is a sea and receiving this message i checked the reference l kuper genocide and what i have found was totally consistent with what davidian said the book was like voice of armenian revolutionists and although i read the whole book i could not find the original quota but there was one more thing to check the original posting of mutlu i found the original article of mutlu it is as follows according to leo the situation is clear on one side we have peace loving turks and on the other side peace loving armenians both sides minding their own affairs then all was submerged in blood and fire indeed the war was actually being waged between the committee of dashnaktsutiun and the society of ittihad and terakki a cruel and savage war in defense of party political interests the dashnaks incited revolts which relied on russian bayonets for their success b a leo the ideology of the armenian revolution in turkey vol ii p quato is the same reference is different davidian lied again and this time he changed the original posting of mutlu just to accuse him to be a liar davidian thank you for writing the page number correctly you are the biggest liar i have ever seen this example showed me that tomorrow you can lie again and you may try to make me a liar this time so i decided not to read your articles and not to write answers to you i also advise all the netters to do the same we can not prevent your lies but at least we may save time by not dealing with your lies and for the following line vay sarsak vay yobaz vay yalanci vay turk milletinin yuz karasi mutlu vay i also return all the insults you wrote about mutlu to you i hope you will be drowned in your lies ahmet parlakbilek from vd cunixb cc columbia edu vedat dogan message id apr news columbia edu in article apr urartu sdpa org dbd urartu sdpa org david davidian writes in article apr news columbia edu vd cunixb cc columbia edu vedat dogan wrote in response to article mar urartu sdpa org dbd urartu sdpa org david davidian writes source adventures in the near east by a rawlinson jonathan cape bedford square london first published pages dd such a pile of garbage first off the above reference was first published dd in not and has pages not second upon checking page dd we are asked to believe vd no mr davidian vd it was first published in i have the book on my desk now vd vd and furthermore the book i have does not have pages either as you vd claimed mr davidian it has pages any question well it seems your book has its total page numbers closer to mine than the n crap posted by mr o boy please can you tell us why those quotes are crap because you do not like them because they really exist why as i said in my previous posting those quotes exactly exist in the source given by serdar argic you couldn t reject it in addition the author s preface was written on january but the book was published in here we go again in the book i have both the front page and the author s preface give the same year and january respectively anyone can check it at her his library if not i can send you the copies of pages please ask by sct i really don t care what year it was first published or what i care about is what the book writes about murders tortures et in the given quotes by serdar argic and your denial of these quotes and your groundless accussations etc dd i can provide gif postings if required to verify my claim vd what is new i will post a gif file but i am not going go through the effort to show there is some turkish modified re publication of the book like last time i claim i have a book in my hand published in first publication and it exactly has the same quoted info as the book published in serdar argic s reference has you couldn t reject it but now you are avoiding the real issues by twisting around let s see how you lie from non existing quotes to re publication first you said there was no such a quote in the given reference you called serdar argic a liar i said to you no mr davidian there exactly existed such a quote i even gave the call number page numbers you could t reject it and now you are lying again and talking about modified re published book without any proof how when where by whom etc by the way how is it possible to re publish the book in if it was first published in your claim i am sure that you have some pretty well suited theories as usual and i am ready to send the copies of the necessary pages to anybody who wants to compare the fact and mr davidian s lies i also give the call number and page numbers again for the library use which are r and the page numbers to verify the quotes and it is not possible that s text has pages mine has and yours has now are you claiming that there can t be such a reference by saying it is not possible if not what is your point differences in the number of pages mine was published in serdar argic s was in no need to use the same book size and the same letter charachter in both publications etc etc does it give you an idea the issue was not the number of pages the book has or the year first published and you tried to hide the whole point the point is that both books have the exactly the same quotes about how moslems are killed tortured etc by armenians and those quotes given by serdar argic exist it was the issue wasn t it you were not able to object it does it bother you anyway you name all these tortures and murders by armenians as a crap people who think like you are among the main reasons why the world still has so many craps in the any question c wwqa wl news cso uiuc edu hovig uxa cso uiuc edu hovig heghinian hmm turks sure know how to keep track of deaths but they seem to lose count around million well apparently we have another son of dro the butcher to contend with you should indeed be happy to know that you rekindled a huge discussion on distortions propagated by several of your contemporaries if you feel that you can simply act as an armenian governmental crony in this forum you will be sadly mistaken and duly embarrassed this is not a lecture to another historical revisionist and a genocide apologist but a fact i will dissect article by article paragraph by paragraph line by line lie by lie revision by revision written by those on this net who plan to prove that the armenian genocide of million turks and kurds is nothing less than a classic un redressed genocide we are neither in x soviet union nor in some similar ultra nationalist fascist dictatorship that employs the dictates of hitler to quell domestic unrest also feel free to distribute all responses to your nearest asala sdpa arf terrorists the armenian pseudo scholars or to those affiliated with the armenian criminal organizations armenian government got away with the genocide of million turkish men women and children and is enjoying the fruits of that genocide you and those like you will not get away with the genocide s cover up not a chance serdar argic we closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the turks and then proceeded in the work of extermination ohanus appressian in soviet armenia today there no longer exists a single turkish soul sahak melkonian
