Title: Hey HN,<p>I am a software engineer in Europe and I would guess the average software engineer makes ~40000 (around ~28000 net) euro a year (~47000 in $) if (s)he does &quot;average&quot; software dev (so between junior and senior).<p>Now obviously you can negotiate salary (which I recommend) and exceptional senior devs <i>do</i> make around ~80000 here in Europe I guess, but here on HN I always read that most devs make around 100K (even if not a team leader or just fresh from the university or even self-taught), but if I would propose that kind of compensation to some company I am sure that it won&#x27;t work out. I know that Google &amp; Co <i>do</i> pay decent salary here in Europe, but other (software) companies would roll their eyes if I would demand a salary in this category.<p>Of course it is not that easy to compare as you are automatically insured in Europe (I don&#x27;t know how that works in the US, I often read about some 401-thingy) which I highly appreciate but I don&#x27;t think that you guys pay 50000 for taxes and social benefits&#x2F;year?<p>So is my view biased as I hang out on HN too much, or is salary in the US really that much higher?<p>Or is it implied that you just make your 50 - 60 hours a week (at least in my area most people that do full-time are &lt;=45 hours a week)?<p>Thank you for your comments.<p>&#x2F;&#x2F;edit: Obviously not everybody, but let&#x27;s say the 50% percentile.
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