In a lengthy interview with Paul Shoemaker in the Town Hall Seattle on April 25, 2017, Callahan described ways in which this new wave of philanthropists differed from previous generations. Particularly those engaged in the knowledge industry, want to be disrupters—capable of enacting real changes.[16] Shoemaker, who is the founding president of international philanthropy group Social Venture Partners, asked Callahan about the power leveraged by philanthropists.[16] Callahan described how as economic inequality has increased since the late 1980s, this translated into "civic and political inequality."[16]