If we had to build a road, he was there, if we had to do some task or errand, he was there, and if we had to help a sick person who didn’t have money, he was there."[19] According to Farid Kahhat, a Peruvian international relations professor interviewed by Jacobin, these groups included some with leftist beliefs, and combated far-left terrorism in rural areas not under the reach of the Peruvian government.[20]