In the United States and much of Europe a related gesture is made by touching the index finger with the thumb (forming a rough circle) and raising of the remaining fingers.[59] It is not known whether the gesture is derived from the expression, or if the gesture appeared first. The gesture was popularized in America in 1840 as a symbol to support then Presidential candidate Martin Van Buren. This was because Van Buren's nickname, Old Kinderhook, derived from his hometown of Kinderhook, NY, had the initials O K.[59] Similar gestures have different meanings in other cultures, some offensive, others devotional.[60][61]