In the said meeting, Collins alleged that Kavanaugh assured her that he is "a don’t-rock-the-boat kind of judge".[192] Similarly, Democratic Senator Joe Manchin, who crossed party lines and voted to confirm both Justice Kavanaugh and Justice Gorsuch, expressed similar views about their potential perjury, stating in part that "I trusted Justice Gorsuch and Justice Kavanaugh when they testified under oath that they also believed Roe v. Wade was settled legal precedent and I am alarmed they chose to reject the stability the ruling has provided for two generations of Americans."[192]