In Ethics, Dietrich Bonhoeffer pointed out another conflict, between Matthew 12:30/Luke 11:23("He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters") and Mark 9:40/Luke 9:50("For he who is not against us [you] is for us [you]"). Bonhoeffer called these two sayings "the claim to exclusiveness and the claim to totality". He argued that both are necessary and that "The cross of Christ makes both sayings true."[95] D.A. Carson commented similarly, adding he thought there are two different contexts where Mark 9:40/Luke 9:50describe the attitude listeners are to have to other possible disciples: when in doubt, be inclusive, while Matthew 12:30/Luke 11:23describe the standard listeners should apply to themselves: be in no doubt of one's own standing.[96] Other commentaries argue that, juxtaposed, the sayings declare the impossibility of neutrality.[97]