Avi Lewis in an interview with Mosaic Magazine, said that "Dr. Abdullah Swalha wants to see an informed Arab public equipped with the tools to relate, deal, and negotiate with Israel, by presenting the country as an imperfect democracy and model of tolerance, albeit with inequalities between Arab and Jewish citizens and an occupying power still controlling the lives of millions of Palestinians in the West Bank—a far cry from the "Zionist entity" trope widely used for decades in the Arab world as a blanket description for the Jewish state."[5]