It was believed in nationalist circles that a Greater Dutch state could be created through collaboration with the German occupiers. The Nazis however did not value this idea, and desired either a Pan-Germanist fusion of the racially Germanic Dutch speakers with Germany or a New Order in which both Belgium and the Netherlands would continue to exist as notionally independent German satellite states. And although Pieter Geyl was strongly anti-Nazi and argued from a historical and cultural perspective, Nazi Germany built upon the idea during the Second World War with a focus on ethnic nationalism, still prominent among some in the political far right.