Shapiro, however, in a 2016 interview with The Rubin Report's Dave Rubin, described himself as "basically a libertarian."[44] He accuses contemporary liberals of creating an imaginary "hierarchy of victimhood" and glorifying perceived victims, leading to identity politics;[disputed ] The Times describes this as his central talking point.[5] He has argued in his books that the mainstream left[who?] has used its dominance of cinema and TV to push its agenda.[8]