And we know that people who have a lot of craving, who have... who have a lot of dis-communication, who have a lot of anger who do not have any kind... any, anything like compassion and these... these people are not happy people at all, even if they have... they are very powerful, have a lot of money, power and things like that. And we can see their suffering, and because of his practise I can see that suffering and I feel sorry for them and therefore forgiveness is now only their problem. So that applies to the people who have made us suffer.