We are rats in the epochal shift, there's a point where the west could tip into a complacent and quite well off redundancy or we could play a decicive role in the future what the banks did was reprehensible that was why there was the outrage of the greed of the bankers when we gave them money that was supposed to help them lend to others but they decided to use that money to pay themselves bonuses, for what? ....For record losses? .