And so therefore, I said to them, "" Well, look, if you refuse — if you refuse me through those reasons, as opposed to the ability to perform and to understand and love the art of creating sound — then we have to think very, very hard about the people you do actually accept. "" And as a result — once we got over a little hurdle, and having to audition twice — they accepted me. And not only that — what had happened was that it changed the whole role of the music institutions throughout the United Kingdom.