So I asked the Minister over dinner, I said, "" Would you consider a situation where you would still get paid — we do the math and figure out what the value of the resource is — but you leave fish and the sharks and the shrimp in the water? "" He stopped, and he said, "" Yes, we would like to do that to deal with our overfishing problem, and I think we would call it a reverse fishing license. "" He coined the term "" reverse fishing license. "" So I said, "" Yes, a 'reverse fishing license.' "" So we walked away from this dinner really not knowing where to go at that point.