He said, "" But I understand that. "" He said, "" I understand that. "" He said, "" We southerners do like a smooth surface, so that there were times when he just didn't want the confrontation. "" And he said, "" Now, John Adams was too honest. "" And he started to talk about that, and later on he invited me to his house, and I met his wife who was from Massachusetts, and he and she had exactly the relationship of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.