Jim, I hope that we can come back to the subject of education because the governor made an extensive statement on it and I have a very different view than the one he expressed. But that having been said, I believe that -- well, first of all, let me say that the governor and I agree on some things where this subject is concerned.
The person is speaking directly to the governor in this context
The first sentence indicates that the person is speaking to Jim, because they address Jim directly. They then address the the governor in third person indicating that Jim is not the governor and thus, they are not speaking directly to the governor in this context. 
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