What I've tried to do here is to say, they'll testify as to everything that appeared in those articles. And how I then distinguish this case from maybe my next case is, where an affidavit is provided and the Court or the parties don't accept the affidavit.
 And how I then distinguish this case from maybe my next case is, where an affidavit is provided and the Congress or the parties don't accept the affidavit.
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