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Burr made enquisieass of me: which to the counzy of fWM-hingzoo; panicularly the state of its ssfmilitia; the discipline, arms, accouzre "ments, and the character of its officers. \ These conversational continued some mue, .fctsizþegides other things which ] cannot recollect "abandoned! did not expect to be called "pan in this way; after travelling some : miles we mecone of my worhmen, a likely "ct'gonng fellow; Col. Burr said he wished "he 'hndctlDDOO ench' fellows. At my sa ss (hers_tnbl_e, closing dinner, col. Burr again ct-pbaervessdthats the oeparation of the union finin'st tesike piece-inevitably in less than 5 it)-n'ere; [Shall] give the its-were that were "wide?,Mrss-Hsi'irt. Perhaps it may serve 'siss th enusssissmsici your narrative beaten] recol. Celebration it was my father who answered that, "God forbid! God forbid! Call. Bark-in the conversation observed that with 2 or 3 men he could drive the president and his colleagues into the Potomac, and with 4 or 5 men could take possession of the city of New York. After dinner, he walked with the president to my brother's; and on our return, he made of military men, and asked me if either of my brothers had a military turn; he said he should like to see my brother at the head of his army come of green. The president said he was a fine, stout-looking fellow. ""Thesess' cistﬄnstancea induced me to ' spedﬂdmy father: sissl warned him to be .ss'wssn're ;of coil Dan-: told him tharin the ___'_'n61"3_r__s_e of that night sicol. Bnrr would at si'ss'si'si-ss- "to have aninterview-with'him and sisisict-si-ssnvnn ma e : teqntet (: (: sim to (: .si'sbzn to go with-him ; and that I smpecsed fsinomething wan going on. The next morn ! in 1 rode With: col. Borr to" the town of] Xctsssi'sifizffishctingtnn, about 9 or 10 miles. si ....— \ We had'tnnch conversation principally fsissssinpdn'military assain ; on the state of the ? ffilsiﬄ ; 'thess'neceslity of attending to mtli- ss ( sissss'sisisiy discipline. He told me that in New fsi-Ymkss the miiiti'a' Were in good order, "which .siiku'sibrnnghtsifibctllt by the inﬂuence and guerdon; ns'a eingle individual (MuSwart f-sisifbonh) Cnl. But: asked me if—l thought l sisirssrcnsinld take a regiment in Waehingzon sssisiFfolsisiJTI',' or whether l could raise one with Inpssf'sie ease ssinct New ]ersey. "(Mr. VVirtct— . "you hat-t liv'esid in New ]ersy? A. Yes.) : ctssAtsi.Wncte'hingtonwe took a wall: ; coi, Buvr, .siss—LGGL aniee'sier and myself, dcwn :he town, " ;.ad- painted nntsi the house to himsinshere ('Mtsi'si- Bradford lived,-Who had been at the ' cheidsid of the tsivestesn insuf-rection.sikiesien " sin;-sit .knne Mr- Bradsord-ss (He was a} . ;ssss—lksibþk —v—— 'f'ss-Þptou Ropge.) l told him his-Son was in ggssgwn. .Qd- cuL But: expreueda wish to .si —gee* him. siCuL "Bark-mentioned come that fM-sshfzssd me: With save-ral who had been in ." .ssshgsi' Weatern luscrrcction, and particular .1' si} mzjor 'm'ﬂhe "North W'cscem Territo. _- &, '(issvhosc name I do untrecoilectss) who bid told him, that is ever he was-engaged . _. "in actsimilar vbus'mcu, hcsi pledged humscls -"';ix'siihoald no! end with'om blood shed. He ct )z'fd-hcctwas act sine fellow. him: on these, ('assccnmsiances that ! advised my father to \ .pþfi'zc she pteaident-of (he United Smtca si-ictkat edmcthiog "was going forward. . siQumimed by theprasecuti'cn. ': sign,, de- si Which way diﬂ he go? A. 'F Jl'udhim {cussc Waah'mgton for WheeL ,;27 1 , _ si ssss ' Means Wire; .Wcre'thcnþassratian of the ff fLssssfsi'nnidu and military lffiirs thepredomioadcl si—is- end!-es in his-convers'a'ziono-Z 'A. Our con ctsi gsisizct was'general'aud mited-si; burehcee "le". ? 'tezssbe the leading ou'bjects. _ --ss' tss- siM" Hai. ssDo' you recollcct any thing Fsisiss "53. 'bosiﬂlsiss'ss adfofd'c qualificatioos far sictsiss ? AJYL'coﬂ-zctit Well. ssct _ . _ ct ss ford me very inco'mpe. WYTPYY—W mffiiw-sszand that in . * "*-__._mmest ....- <ss —*.M\\ ss 'ct... quod—'-. " , :! as vcmu; brane-si si. , sisisissssly made: "93 95"! 7,. -:'f_\5"*. 'f'ss {" -" HZAUWW shss-zAs-vewbm ctsibjcctuvctsseeq'jzmct'isissLj'ct-hsiiznd zsthggsi-ss ctct,_.. '. - Mr.- Hayffithfi'psis'fibc dare? ! thislcf'ct-si ssj*si_sig-cy ss (frosiin, fssfjsibesif psssilsi'iQOnei'ct to your. father) im'aysi shgwxj-sii'rhis;Leyssccngssizsi,sidfited 0?! "" sisi2si15f- 'ct " si " " s- ctMkssssParfier (a 'jjss'ssuror ss ).ctl-si Did 'fiesi approve stir sicab'demn th'a'c {and ment- of ssct-ihesimsidjﬂfz fivbi'ch "You "have (quoted? A. I do no: re cdllect. The impression on simy'mifid'was, ,ctssthat hesishoughtsihissm : side fellow. _ - . Crosr—Exami'nedss .. ' Mr.ss siBzer. " ss You spake of: letter fromss mesilo your father. Do you know whether he wrote me, some time before. a letten-at & imitation labia house ? "A. ch: he "had ; writtenio jbu Abousa year before atPiua !, burg, Thessletter is yec'uqstaled'in my bro si> cher's'a but-east. Q. Did your father corn sissssmuaicatc wctsiyþu next. morning om- nisigbt'sis ; converse-Lotion"? ssA. Yea. Q. Before , we .rode? A; siNosQss. Do you recvllect of "my having made s'cverﬄenquiries also a-. bout the semmieariea of learning," and of sscucshuc was projccrcd in your neighbor sihoed, and osmsiy suggesting "(ne necessity 'os encouraging it ? A: You spoke much coo- son-"thar subject. Q— Did' ! seem to know any thing of Brzdfor'd before you cold me? A. You seemed to know a good deal of thesslnsurreccion; Q. Dzd ctyou not tell me that Bradford was & noisy son of ": dc'magogueZ A. I did oatctl have do objecsslihu (6 give my opinion of Mr. Bradcte ford. I mentioned him to you asame'rc lawyer. Q.' "If-(! I seem to know that Bradsord lived at Piusburgh,besore you mentioned it and pointed out hishotxce? A. You did no: seem to know it. Q. Who were ac-Dinner at your father's? A My szrher, mozhcr, wife., sister, cal. Dupicstcr, Mr. T. E-- . my brmher Tosim. _ si Examinatian oj (lo!. George Margmzsi Ccl. Morgan was proceedzng, when "Mr; Burr subjected to this kind of essyiderxce, .CObsisting of conversations and previous declaratiocs. Some desuhmsiv converse lion ensued upon this point, (6th sithe C. justice said that he understood that the same objectionssiwould hereafter app!y to sithe consideration as toþhc introductinu of testimony; thatsi these objeccmm mz-gh} be hereaﬂer urged; and that i-e was impossi ble for the court to know the canon: of the evidence before it was?; introduced. ' ctssMr. Hay. If The genticmen will only wait, they will {m.-! that Other circumstan. ces will cumE_ouc to prove {he mates-ashy, ofthis tc stimnny. This witness win prove what was the: state of the prisoncr's mind in August last. . ' Mr. Lce. ( h0pc, ther—, the 'ury will 'TU -si _ ,Wsiﬂfc—Ysi ...ssrmTTcr inscrlrom che coun'a de ("cing so intfirsectre on the present occusimn, :hat every {bing which-drops from the witness is to pass ; withoutobjectico. _ ' ; Col. Morgao. (.hc sasizher of the last ( witness.) The-Ye has bccpalrct-cg acquaim. faace þctwccn col. er and myself. He had introduced to my nonce two of his ocphewa by the name of -——, and a third by the: name ofEdwards, Pic-rrcpsmc EJ. wards-. ( had receive;-;! mziuy c'visili. tisses from Col. Burr in New York, after these things had passed, which had formed such an agreement for him; that he never should have forgotten it, had not his business taken place. It was because he was under consideration, and as I thought unjust persecution. I had then a younger son, who is now here, studying law at Pittsburgh. I wished to make him known to me. And in consequence of my friendship for him and of the great rage of persecution against him, I invited him in Zanesville to all probabishy I should have done the same things from the same motive, I did not fear the exchange I had conceived for him. But B. however, had left Pittsburgh before my letter reached me, and is now in my own service at Pinsburg. On the 24th last August, I received a letter from Col. Burr, informing me that he should die with me next day. Here Mr. Burr handed the letter to Col. Burr, who said the letter was dazed or the first, and that he had not for some time seen it, as he had framed it to the president of the state. This letter was handed to me by a man who called himself "Count Vilsilress," I believe my son did not come on me that evening; but next morning, I informed him, is it possible, that I was able, that I should certainly go and meet you at the door. Bark-; sizbdsssil requested hfm and his brothei' to do it, .wisih a'lener 'of—sir'ntroducciou ex jﬂgassacotsiv of ctcheir name: and their inten tio'n. "'an conversation umk place be HWECD him and my lSOlsi}, I ShallctﬂOl BIRIC 'CQL'B, jmgcsioacd'w me in sseoeversaxion, cgssjsi 'Dopieetck, as one of the first military characters of the age. ! shall pass over the convenalion and incident; during dm ner. Afzer dinner l spoke of our fine si-qumry; [observed aha: When ( first went i least" in titsiv time. cttbcfssissfsiih??? Wsisi'ZM-fisizsi sittssgssle, &msstyctfisizct, Zmsissn ssthssess. ct Mlc'ghaeyct mountain- and ssrcbc . fiiossi; __ "zed-1thzrsisssibyesiss'end bysie me.-aboute _f_ctbct_t_tsive congress aittsiiegsi'insi this neighbosirhood, "or it Pittsctfiurg. ' We are ali'f'awctedct to"-sport ssth'efsessthings oVer';a<glctass'ss-of Wine. " Nh; never," dsiuid sicoi; B. " " for in him than five si'ycarssiymctwill be totally divided frompthe Atlaouc stated-" The colonel entered in {to some" -ctarg£xmsscnts to prove, why it. would and shpuld bc—sseoct The first reasousiwas, the produce as the _salc_ of the westersso - lands being, carried into. the Atlactolic states, ! and that the people to the west should not ["be tributary to them. He said that our situes were "very heavy; and d-emandcd, Why we should pay them to the Atiantic parts es the'country. By this time I' took an oppþvrtuvitysito observe, "God forbid ! I hoped that no such things wouid happen at This obsersivation terminated thesscenver. saticnsi'as to this particular point. It then turned-two:! the weakncss and embefiility oft-he t'ederai government ; l dou't recol. icct saying— any thing on the subject; but beganto think that all was (tonight, He said with two hundred man he could drive siceb'sigress with the president- at its head in. To the river, Psoromac, or that it might be done, and he said with five hundred men he could take possession of New York. He appealed to 60! Dupont, it it could be done; he besieged the scene. There was a reply made in this story of the scene, that the squadron would be done if they could take our little gun of Cannonsburg with that force. Some short time after this, Colonel B. went out from the dining room and beckoned to my son Thomas. They went out and had come conversation. What that conversation was, I shall leave it to my son himself to tell. Soon as after 2, Well, was proposed to some son's mill and the company went. When they returned, one orb of my son came to caution me; and said, "You may depend on it, Colonel Burr will this night open himself to you. He wants Tom to go with him." After the usual conversation, Colonel Burr went upstairs, and as long to go to bed, Mrs. Morgan was reading the same as is usual when the family have retired; when about 11 o'clock, and when I thought he had been asleep an hour, she said, "You'll see." Cel. Bnr came with the candle in his hand. Mrs. Morgan immediately retired. The ccl. took his seat by me. He drew from his pocket a book; I suppose it was a memorandum book. As Lsi si' 04:si, sict—nxlcu'simsi-isl knew a. A Mr. Vigo, the governor, Vincent, a Spaniard, replied; I knew him; I had reasons to know him. Onewnssihzt I had reason in believing he was deeply involved in the British conspiracy in '88, as I supposed; the object of which was to separate the states; and which general Neville and myself had suppressed. I called it a serious thing at the division of the states. I was careful to put great emphasis on the ward of the colony. But finding what kind of man he had to deal with, suddenly saupped, thirst into his pocket; the bank which I saw had black leaves in it, and returned to bed. I believe it was pretty well understood. The next morning, and Dapiester went on business breakfast with my son, and from there to this I have not seen him but in this place. My son agreed to speak of her, she presented me with a pleasant smile, and I thought she was mistaken. At the point of a word, I saw him, and I saw him. Mr. Vigo, after much conversation about the country and the country, said, "I have not seen him but in this place. My son, I am sure, has not seen him but in this place." Eubs: quent cunvcr-(ss Sat is, did the person his ass: an: compared Ed bethco (he east zero and west in states? A. He said "Keep yourself on this side, Of the mountain, and you will never be dis. turbulent. "By Which I understand that there was an attempt to be made to establish a disunion. The means are one more circumstance, which I must seek court. The Sunday after, the judge of our circuit court dismissed with me. He rested him to the court the circumstances to general Newville, and invited him to come to the solemn day to dinner, which judges had been assigned for had business of the first importance to communicate. They did not dine with me on that day, but they did on the morning Sunday. The gentlemen were a witness to the presentment, informing him of my communications to show. As examined, Mr. Barr. What son of a book was chosen to me as a witness had in my hand? Was it bound? A. It was not so large as this, (do not remember whether it was bound as it would not her very polite to take particular care of such things. When gentlemen acted at my own house. When you spoke, I saw that the tax was not a tax. Wishing to be a tax, I am now ready to pay the tax. "A"; "a"; "cofisicewed W'asss Weudelsi—sso-'sisisiesi "hid] finoa'. Q, "Who were 'presem,. ﬁlsshilmsiasin gactw you? A-Cekiesisi? judge Robekzs. Q. Was "from Pittsburg? A. None. verzation was ahcu jocular abosisi, tsiuss' ing of eongressto Puuburgz Actsitﬂ. þncter might have been jocuiar; bssuss - \ .meaaing. - Q. Did you untoucclwzct'ct ssMiasissippi? A. I did wash zhsictpsi, L'". -of my country. Q. Where was:."Rss. er, New Madrid. Q. On which - sithe Mississippi? A; The west, (He: Spanish terricories ?- A. Wirhxhss' "! ssbation of the Spanish governmcospsiss' How long did you live shercss? A, .bQ fony days. ! went from 'hat We" New Orleans, where ] date-medical? gxish spy. Q. lu whatyear. A. 1an ]? Lcight. ' \- 37) ? Gen. ﬂlorgan was then called isimhz sireques! of the prisoner. ? Blr. Burr. 'vVhag was the Situation t . , fyaur father, about the time of my "w siisiA' He had lately had & fall. whicw ;dooe him considcrasible injury. Q [me [as to his capacity. l):d you no: msisif {some apotogy to judge 'silman far-si. Fstate oshie mind? A. I did tell ]uriss !Tilman that my father was old and Ffi'.m; and like other old men, bfiefc' sillnog szorieseud was apt to forge; si thcnona, .lssis. , ﬂIsiB-ZZ'Z. Wbal'\7115{hcpg'sissiu",' sircply to yzour cxclamztmn .? A- When Lcol. B. said that with 200 men he told [drive the President and Ctngrmjsim ,hsi l Potomac, I must confess that ] lcltmvstll j hurt and ). replctied with some warmth-ct-pssi ? be damnedif you could take the littictm {of Caacnzbuzg with that "force." Col H. ! repiied " confine yourself to this Eldcc! : the mountain; and it is aHthcr thing." si- Mr. Burr. Do you recoliect thatlle ; probability of a Spanish were was mention. 3 ed ? 'A. It was a general subjectolcoa. sss versatwn. ! (Examinatien as THOMAS Moacln. On the evening of the Blat of August, my father received a letter from Paterson, by the heads of some person, the substance of which was Aaron Burr. In that letter, the writer communicated his intention of dining with my father-in-law the following day: he also mentioned little should take the liberty of introducing: friend. My father requested my brother and myself to meet him, which we accordingly did. Nothing of importance occurred during our ride in the presence of Col. Dupieur was generally with my brother. Col. Dupieur was often with meekness and sometimes we were promiscuously left together. Whilst we were in dinner, we conscientiously said that we (meaning the shape of the west) would be separated five years from the Atlantic states; the Allegheny mountain to be the line of division. She said that great command be required to execute great military designs, all that was wanting was a leader, if whom they could place confidence, and who should believe could carry them through. That conversation occurred during dinner. She said that with 500 men, New York might be taken; and she, with 100,000, could be driven into the Patagonian. To the last observed, in my brother's mind, I think indigestion instantly refuses, "By God, with that numbers you cannot take off your town of Canonsburg." Critically, I reply to this observation was, "Fossil, you're right, to this side of the mountain," I'll not contradict you, or words to the effect. Withdraws, stammers, and other things, where was the deed, and on such terms as this? Where was it delivered, and on such terms as this? Where did he arrive at the back door as the entry of hearing of any other person, I considered what my pursuits West? I formed him I was undying the law, then said, he was sure I could not find him. The government for either body or mind; and he said, asked, "Is there any danger there are not?" Young men in Pittsburgh similarly situated. He said, that under our government there was no encouragement for the government; that John Randolph had declared the floor of congress that men were dangerous to the government, asked. I know or whether I would be elected: Military expedition or life, I confess, lest which. My answer was: "Gum" surely depends upon the object of "ass" which was to sight. I think perhaps soon after, he said, "I am you were on your way with me, Miss asking concerning Colonel Byng, (Mr. Dyer) living as New Orleans. I was thing which I had a share in the discussion. "Iber's brother, who was all done as Colonel Byng's brother. "But a brother, by. (But a brother must know.) 